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Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« on: February 26, 2023, 06:33:08 AM »
From 4:00 to 10:00.

Employers like to make it like it's the employees that weren't loyal, but it was really the companies.

Just look at how all the recent large tech layoffs were done - Twitter, Facebook, Google, ...

Are you loyal to your company?  Are they loyal to you?


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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2023, 06:37:59 AM »
Exact opposite actually. With the new work at home culture employees are more loyal than ever. Companies are now even changing from a 5-day work week to a 4-day work week and turnover rates hit the lowest point.

Employers have never been loyal to employees. It’s not a mom and pop culture. No employee in a corporate structure has job security. Look at the battle going on with Starbucks fighting unionization.

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2023, 06:52:33 AM »
Exact opposite actually. With the new work at home culture employees are more loyal than ever. Companies are now even changing from a 5-day work week to a 4-day work week and turnover rates hit the lowest point.

Employers have never been loyal to employees. It’s not a mom and pop culture. No employee in a corporate structure has job security. Look at the battle going on with Starbucks fighting unionization.

All those people working from home are just companies testing if they can outsource those jobs overseas.  Why waste a crisis?  If everyone can work from home, then everyone can work from India.

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2023, 06:53:33 AM »
One for all, all for one, every man for himself.

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2023, 06:54:39 AM »
Exact opposite actually. With the new work at home culture employees are more loyal than ever. Companies are now even changing from a 5-day work week to a 4-day work week and turnover rates hit the lowest point.

Employers have never been loyal to employees. It’s not a mom and pop culture. No employee in a corporate structure has job security. Look at the battle going on with Starbucks fighting unionization.

WFH facilitates switching jobs, actually.  Instead of being limited to the local companies you can work for any company in the US that offers fully remote work.

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2023, 07:18:24 AM »
100000% absolutely OP nailed it


Used to be that a man got a job, was well taken care of by a company who appreciated his hard work and incentivized him staying at whatever company that was for his entire work life 30+ years and then retiring


Now its meetings meetings and more meetings berating, belittling and screaming how replaceable you are.....


Who are you likely to work harder and longer for? The boss/company that treats you like a king or that makes you feel like a replaceable slave?  Who are you going to stay late for and be there for when that "emergency" in the company eventually happens?

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2023, 08:24:34 AM »
100000% absolutely OP nailed it


Used to be that a man got a job, was well taken care of by a company who appreciated his hard work and incentivized him staying at whatever company that was for his entire work life 30+ years and then retiring


Now its meetings meetings and more meetings berating, belittling and screaming how replaceable you are.....


Who are you likely to work harder and longer for? The boss/company that treats you like a king or that makes you feel like a replaceable slave?  Who are you going to stay late for and be there for when that "emergency" in the company eventually happens?
It all about the shift to technology. What did most companies have before 401k? My Grandfather worked for 30+ years at Publix. That's what it is, a pension.


But as a younger generation, the pension was doomed for failure. How do you expect as a company (not the government) to pay for people who aren't working anymore?

Now Social Security, is government controlled and we pay into. Now if that collapses, talk about riots.


But pensions never could last. It was a pie in the sky theme.


As an individual company. You can't afford to pay people who are doing anything for your company.

The government is different they are taking our many, and doing whatever they want with it. With the promise that you'll get a monthly sum, based on the salary and the number of years that you've worked.

401k, fucking bitcoin.....IRA's. It's just something that companies do to gain off of what you gain.

It's all bullshit, I'm waiting for the day that whoever the President is, announces that they are ending Social Security.

Yet they are trillions in debt, and literally print Monopoly money.


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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2023, 08:32:39 AM »
Companies have stated for ages that you are hired "at will" and can be shit-canned at any time.
Ive been at this place for 23 years (even though its been 5 different companies over that time) and have seen people called into an office, and then walked out the door right away.
(They don't want people leaving with documentation (or transferring it elsewhere, etc)
I work from home and have never met a boss face to face in over a decade.

They like to hire in India (our place) so they can pay them peanuts. Why pay people 150K here when they can pay them 40K? (Comparible).
The last few people who have left our place and retired have been replaced w/ an India hire.

A salary of USD 150,000.00 in United States is equivalent to USD 41,728.26 or INR 3298433.77 in India.

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2023, 08:42:22 AM »
Companies have stated for ages that you are hired "at will" and can be shit-canned at any time.
Ive been at this place for 23 years (even though its been 5 different companies over that time) and have seen people called into an office, and then walked out the door right away.
(They don't want people leaving with documentation (or transferring it elsewhere, etc)
I work from home and have never met a boss face to face in over a decade.

They like to hire in India (our place) so they can pay them peanuts. Why pay people 150K here when they can pay them 40K? (Comparible).
The last few people who have left our place and retired have been replaced w/ an India hire.

A salary of USD 150,000.00 in United States is equivalent to USD 41,728.26 or INR 3298433.77 in India.

I used to have weekly meetings with an Indian employee for my company who worked in India.


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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2023, 08:52:02 AM »
I used to have weekly meetings with an Indian employee for my company who worked in India.

Thats all we do is a weekly  team meeting for an hour. We have 3 guys in India.
All very good technically and very good people (polite, etc). No surprise there... They seem to never sleep and work like 14 hour days...

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Re: Corporate Loyalty Is Dead AND Employers Killed It
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2023, 07:13:15 PM »
Now Social Security, is government controlled and we pay into. Now if that collapses, talk about riots.

Terrifying