Dorian Discusses Arnold And The 1980 Olympia

[youandme]

I’m just surprised Platz wasn’t in the top 7. I think he had the 1981 Olympia.

[stingray]

Dorian was on 10grams week.

Arnold prob quarter his doses

[epic is back]

Watching Greta with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator, would never stop. It would never leave her, and it would never hurt her, never shout at her, or get drunk and hit her, or say it was too busy to spend time with her. It would always be there. And it would die, to protect her. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.

your on fire bro

[Pet shop boys]

Dorian beat Nasser with no arms in 1997

Tell Dorian to take his pills and resume his yoga



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  Shawn Ray 96 Uncrowned Mr.O as well

[Notomorrow]

     Arnold did EXACTLY what the judges(and Weiders) were saying they wanted to bring the sport mainstream. You have to remember Zane is the guy to knock out, champ 77-79 and he would be considered a bit thin for men's physique today. Bodybuilding was starting to go mainstream, the health club boom was happening, and Ben Weider was thinking of bodybuilding as an Olympic sport. They were pushing Zane physiques. Lou was smart to get out when he did.
     Arnold at 6'2 could have easily come in much bigger. He was competing to win, not be the most jacked. The other competitors had a bit of a revolt and said fuck that skinny look. That's what the whole argument was about the weight classes. Arnold wanted the weight classes, so at the overall he'd be posing against the lighter weight class winner like he always did. The other guys, led by Mentzer, wanted him to stand against the big boys. The judges were put in a tough situation.

The 80 Olympia was like Leonard Duran 2. Leonard fought like a bitch, but that's what it took if he was to win. Arnold came in thin and aesthetic. And took the Sandow, and heard that lamentations of the women saying it was rigged.

Remember, THIS(guy on left at 195 lbs) is what the 79 judges said they want for Mr. O.

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I appreciate the way Dorian conducts himself. Very honest, straight forward but not given to exaggeration  or gossip.

Even here its obvious he doesn't care for Arnold but doesn't resort to insults.

 Its funny in a way that all those years later Mentzer was still paranoid about Arnold.

Oddly I always felt that Arnold more closely resembled Rand's ideal man than Mentzer. Objectivism was her philosophy but rational self interest was a part of that. In Atlas Shrugged one of tge main quotes that illustrates her philosophy was "I will never live for the sake of another man, or ask another man to live for the sake of me."

For Mike it was deeply important to him that other people believed in HIT it was deeply important that other people think he should've won the 80 olympia. Other people's thoughts and opinions were too important to Mike.. Unlike Howard Roark in the fountainhead who continued to create his ideal of architecture despite what the critics thought. Mike melted down when criticized , placed poorly. It was important to prove his point. And when he couldn't he had a mental breakdown.

While Arnold had always lived for the sake of himself. Always goal oriented to his own success and it served him well. Arnold was always too much of a politician to be considered an obectivist but achievement for his own sake and ego were Arnolds strengths and were concepts at the core of many of Rands teachings.

Arnold has none of the qualities of a John Galt. He is a craven degenerate drug addict who only knows how to ingratiate himself to people in power. He isn't a leader. This should be all the more obvious in recent times with his open shilling for political evil.

[pamith]

[Gym-Rat]

[Royalty]

Let’s be honest, after about 3 years of training Yates had better legs and back than peak Arnold. I believe that Dorian is still an amateur here...

[Rambone]

^sick build there

[pamith]

Dorian's weak point was his chest, while Arnold's strongest bodypart was his chest, the irony

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[beakdoctor]

Arnold has none of the qualities of a John Galt. He is a craven degenerate drug addict who only knows how to ingratiate himself to people in power. He isn't a leader. This should be all the more obvious in recent times with his open shilling for political evil.

Who's John Galt?

Ha! Get it?

My main point is as it relates to selfishness and ego.

I don't see many that have Galts qualities.  It'd be nice if there were though. The world needs a John Galt. At least the US does.

[Royalty]

1980 Arnold VS 1988 Dorian

[youandme]

Mentzer doesn’t even have a chest or delts in that front shot. It was even written about how he flared his arms the whole time during the contest because he was insecure about being the narrowest guy in the lineup.

I like his physique, strong build when standing solo like Casey Viator but when you put him in a lineup the weak parts come out.

The contest was between Dickerson and Zane. Some outliers had Mentzer winning. Zane had injuries and was 182 or something and Dickerson still was not big enough. Weak lineup for an Olympia and Arnold jumped in. He didn’t need to be 100% to win it in that lineup. Ar old said he was 90%, Franco said 80% and I think Joe Good said 60% but an incomplete Arnold won and that’s why people were up in arms.

[Rambone]

Roger Walker looked great in this show IMO. In that shot, his upper body looks on par with Arnold, but his lower body size blows Arnold away

[Royalty]

Roger Walker looked great in this show IMO. In that shot, his upper body looks on par with Arnold, but his lower body size blows Arnold away

Arnold’s traps really came to his aid here. They definitely made him look bigger.

[Van_Bilderass]

Clearly you weren’t there nor do you know what you are talking about.

I forgot about your analysis. What was your CLEAR top 3?

If pics don't mean anthing, what the hell are we doing?

[youandme]

Arnold’s traps really came to his aid here. They definitely made him look bigger.

Walker got a gift, since he had a bad case of gyno that showed when he flexed his chest. In 80 they marked down for Gyno. Not sure what happened in 81. Lol.