PEDs VS BEING NATTY

[Gym-Rat]

Mike's thoughts on "proud natty's"...   

Brutal, true...

[IroNat]

He's a proud drug addict who deals with his insecurities by taking steroids.

It's a sad statement about our society.

So many insecure men.

[bhank]

"Doing half of what some Random dude does who comes into the gym and just does a bunch of bullshit in here loads up the leg press and stuff" 2:50ish mark Matt is identified

[Wiggs]

So glad I overcame my PED obsession. I'm very fortunate to be sitting at 43 years old at 1000+ test level (yes, serious and have the paperwork to prove it) Superior Hebrew Testes Genetics.  Last cycle was 8 years ago. There's so many NATURAL things you can do to increase your test and GH levels. In most cases imo TRT is an excuses for addicts to continue being addicts.

[oldgolds]

So glad I overcame my PED obsession. I'm very fortunate to be sitting at 43 years old at 1000+ test level (yes, serious and have the paperwork to prove it) Superior Hebrew Testes Genetics.  Last cycle was 8 years ago. There's so many NATURAL things you can do to increase your test and GH levels. In most cases imo TRT is an excuses for addicts to continue being addicts.

Good for you...It truly is an addiction....I've been 100% clean for 50 years.

[SweetDaddySiki]

So glad I overcame my PED obsession. I'm very fortunate to be sitting at 43 years old at 1000+ test level (yes, serious and have the paperwork to prove it) Superior Hebrew Testes Genetics.  Last cycle was 8 years ago. There's so many NATURAL things you can do to increase your test and GH levels. In most cases imo TRT is an excuses for addicts to continue being addicts.

Hey- not arguing or whatever cause I'm nat but what natural things do you mean? Always looking for ideas. Thanks!

[Gym-Rat]

He's a proud drug addict who deals with his insecurities by taking steroids.

It's a sad statement about our society.

So many insecure men.

He's just fine with his personal decisions, like others should be fine w/ theirs.
Not all people who use are "drug addicts", pretty foolish blanket statement...
Just like not all drinkers are alcoholics. Some actually know how to go about certain things...

[TheShape.]

Just remember when the shit hits the fan and you can’t get your Chinese underground test my balls will still be as big as eggs pumping out those natural hormones waiting to impregnate your women!!

[IroNat]

Man covered in tats even on the top of his head who makes a video about why it's fine to use illegal steroids giving us life advices.

[ChristopherA]

Just remember when the shit hits the fan and you can’t get your Chinese underground test my balls will still be as big as eggs pumping out those natural hormones waiting to impregnate your women!!

Cool. Having fun supporting more useless mouths to feed on this planet.

[illuminati]

He's a proud drug addict who deals with his insecurities by taking steroids.

It's a sad statement about our society.

So many insecure men.

Going off of that statement
I take it you Must Think that about all the Top Sports Men Then?
They're all Drug addicts & Insecure Then ??

🤔 An interesting perspective/ point of view I must say.

[bhank]

Good for you...It truly is an addiction....I've been 100% clean for 50 years.

This is where problems arise who the fuck are you calling Dirty?

[IroNat]

Going off of that statement
I take it you Must Think that about all the Top Sports Men Then?
They're all Drug addicts & Insecure Then ??

🤔 An interesting perspective/ point of view I must say.

Nah, I just like to post stuff to rile people up.

[illuminati]

Nah, I just like to post stuff to rile people up.

Ahh okay - Only it comes across as you're the one who is Riled up about Steroid usage !!

[wes]

So glad I overcame my PED obsession. I'm very fortunate to be sitting at 43 years old at 1000+ test level (yes, serious and have the paperwork to prove it) Superior Hebrew Testes Genetics. 

Holy God Milton,don`t even glance at your lady !!   

[IroNat]

Ahh okay - Only it comes across as you're the one who is Riled up about Steroid usage !!

I'm really pissed!

[Virgil]

I like Mike Van Wyck, and I've incorporated alot of his ideas, I think he's 100 percent correct on his training  views. Having said that what he fails to mention about peds is how it fucks up your body long term. Yes if you're juiced in your 30s and 40s it can be great, but when you hit your 60s and you've been been juiced for decades you're gonna look like shit, no matter what you do. (Palumboism comes to mind).  Also as you age you become more concerned with your health  (ie. staying alive) i believe you become more susceptible to cancer and health issues if you're juiced.  You can be in incredible  shape in your 60s without it so why comprise your health? 

[Rambone]

PEDs all the way

[Dave D]

So is there a conclusion if it’s better to be natty or a juicer?

I’m looking for empirical evidence on this matter.

[MAXX]

I prefer to live long and steady life. Dying in my 40's or 50's for reasons of vanity, self-obsession or to win at a sport just isn't worth it for me. Each to their own, everyone makes their own choices and gets to live with the consequences. I'm not going to act moral highground just stating facts and my reasoning.

[IroNat]

So is there a conclusion if it’s better to be natty or a juicer?

I’m looking for empirical evidence on this matter.

If health is your concern the answer is obvious...stay natty...unless you have a legitimate need for TRT, which is quite rare.

[Dave D]

If health is your concern the answer is obvious...stay natty...unless you have a legitimate need for TRT, which is quite rare.

So drugs are bad?

Unless they help you live out longer.

[testiFy]

Lol @ natties never getting to experience the literal painful pumps after taking dbol or anadrol preworkout. Must suck to never be able to enjoy some of what science has to offer us in terms of enhancement.

[illuminati]

I'm really pissed!

Yeah, It comes across that you are .

Why ?
Just do as you wish to do & let the others do as they wish
It really shouldn't bother You. 

[illuminati]

I like Mike Van Wyck, and I've incorporated alot of his ideas, I think he's 100 percent correct on his training  views. Having said that what he fails to mention about peds is how it fucks up your body long term. Yes if you're juiced in your 30s and 40s it can be great, but when you hit your 60s and you've been been juiced for decades you're gonna look like shit, no matter what you do. (Palumboism comes to mind).  Also as you age you become more concerned with your health  (ie. staying alive) i believe you become more susceptible to cancer and health issues if you're juiced.  You can be in incredible  shape in your 60s without it so why comprise your health?

Hmmmm Tell me more . What is Your Age ?

I'm 62 & know others older than me & still using .
Sure an excess of most things can cause you harm - In the grand scheme
of Drugs / Medications Steroids are Fairly Low Risk - NO I didn't say they're
Without possible side effects .

Only When you consider they're Dishing them out to Baby's & Folk 100+
Men & Women , Kind of puts a certain perspective on Them.

People Smoke / Drink / do Dangerous activities etc etc Hell Driving Car's
Why do They take the Risk of Potentially compromising their health ??

Ahhh I know It's Only Steroids & Orange Man are Bad.