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Carly Fiorina’s ’16 pipe dream: Why her campaign will be a right-wing sideshow
The former CEO won't embarrass her party, but here's why she will never win its nomination
Heather Digby Parton
So last week Jeb Bush put on a hat in anticipation of some point soon throwing it into the presidential ring. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are bickering like Archie and Edith Bunker over Cuba and what the word “isolationist” means. (Paul is very pleased with his Eddie Haskelesque move to tag Rubio with the hated moniker.) Chris Christie glumly walked around with President Obama again trying desperately not to appear as if he likes it. Scott Walker is bbusily trying to figure out how to use the auto-correct on his phone. Rick Perry is sporting some very sharp new costumes. Ben Carson is rewriting the constitution. Mike Huckabee is milking his million dollar payday for as long as he can while Bobby Jindal desperately tries to get somebody, somewhere, to pay attention to him. The Republican presidential candidates come from every corner of the country and represent a variety of different GOP constituencies. They have governors and senators and TV personalities. They even have two medical doctors!
But for all that talent and diversity something has been missing. Hmmm, let me think. What could it be? Oh right. They forgot to include a woman. Ooops.
But it looks as though that’s about to be rectified:
Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an “imminent” presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.
The former Hewlett-Packard CEO, who raised her political profile with a failed run against Sen. Barbara Boxer of California in 2010, has frequently been mentioned as a long-shot contender to seek the Republican presidential nomination. The speculation is driven by equal parts novelty and activity: Fiorina, who paid several high-profile visits to early-nominating states in 2014, acknowledged that she would likely be the only woman in the GOP field.
Whew! In a contest that’s going to feature at least one woman on the Democratic side it would be more than a little bit embarrassing to see all those men on the stage without even a token female. Since the transition of Sarah Palin to full-fledged reality TV and tabloid star, there just hasn’t been anyone obvious to prop up there. People have talked about South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley and New Mexico Governor Suzannah Martinez, both of whom would be highly qualified, but they haven’t shown any serious signs of wanting to do it. There are four women GOP Senators, Ayotte, Collins, Murkowski and Fisher in the current congress but none of them are on any public short-lists that I’m aware of. Senator-elect Joni Ernst, whom Luke Russert calls the “Crown Jewel” of the GOP, may be ambitious but she’s probably going to have to wait at least one term before she can conceivably lead the nation. And there are, of course, the GOP congresswomen, more than 20 of them in the new congress, none of whom seem to want to follow in the footsteps of Michele Bachman (which is understandable.)
So, along comes Fiorina, ready once more to take one for the team and spend millions of her own money in a losing race for high office. And she’s a three-fer. Not only is she a woman, she’s a failed CEO and failed Senate candidate too! (Not that there aren’t plenty of the last two available in Republican politics.)
No one knows for sure what she is really after — it certainly isn’t the presidency, which is completely out of reach. But she has been planning this move for quite some time. She became the chairman of the board of the American Conservative Union foundation, the group that sponsors the annual CPAC Convention that showcases the most important right wingers in the country. It’s unlikely that the Chairman of the Board will be denied a prominent speaking role. She’s also slated to give the keynote speech to the Council for National Policy meeting this year, one of the most important gatherings of influential ultra-conservative players in the Republican Party.
And she’s not faking it. As her extraordinary loss to Senator Barbara Boxer in 2010 illustrated she is very right wing. Despite the middle of the road image some might confer on her as a pragmatic business woman in a man’s world Fiorina is a hard core social conservative. She is anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality. She does draw the line on “personhood” but then so do the voters of Alabama, so that’s hardly a litmus test. This businesswoman is perfectly willing to say that the the jury on climate change is still out and loves energy company money, especially if it comes from her good friends the Koch brothers. She is so hardcore on guns that she argued forcefully for the constitutional right of people on the no-fly list to bear arms. She heartily supported Arizona’s anti-immigration law SB-1070. (You can see why she lost in California by more than 10 points.)
And that brings us to Fiorina’s likely role in this upcoming presidential campaign. While nobody sees her as a president she has that highly regarded Republican characteristic of a mean sense of humor and has proven herself adept at delivering the zinger to a female rival for which a man would be criticized as ungallant if not outright sexist. The Republican presidential boys club needs someone in the pack who can do that dirty work for them. And Fiorina is their gal. For instance, in her most notorious campaign ad of 2010, Fiorina responded to Boxer’s claim that “one of the very important national security issues frankly is climate change,”by turning to the camera and snidely quipping, “Terrorism kills, and Barbara Boxer’s worried about the weather.”
Hiyo! But she has also been known to get herself into trouble as when she was caught on tape being a mean girl in a much too stereotypical way — she said a friend had seen Boxer on TV “and said what everyone says — God, what is that hair?” Mike Huckabee undoubtedly chuckled loudly at that swipe but it flopped with women. Fiorina has probably learned her lesson and won’t go there this time.
Fiorina won’t embarrass the party the way Michele Bachman did when she served water to all the male candidates during one of their debates. And nobody will ever be able to shame them the way Sarah Palin did … always. She is a more mature public figure with at least a modicum of gravitas. But in the end, her role in the campaign will be the same as theirs — a sideshow. That’s what Republican women candidates for president always are and she’s nothing if not a good team player.
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Fiorina won’t embarrass the party the way Michele Bachman did when she served water to all the male candidates during one of their debates. And nobody will ever be able to shame them the way Sarah Palin did … always. She is a more mature public figure with at least a modicum of gravitas. But in the end, her role in the campaign will be the same as theirs — a sideshow. That’s what Republican women candidates for president always are and she’s nothing if not a good team player.
I don't think she has a snowball's chance if she couldn't win a Senate race, but who is the author talking about here? ("Republican women candidates for president always are")
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I don't think she has a snowball's chance if she couldn't win a Senate race, but who is the author talking about here? ("Republican women candidates for president always are")
which women have run before? bachmann hid in bushes and said she went undercover as a career at IRS to learn the enemy, she was obviously a little unhinged.
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which women have run before? bachmann hid in bushes and said she went undercover as a career at IRS to learn the enemy, she was obviously a little unhinged.
::) That was my question, troll.
Bachmann 2012.
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::) That was my question, troll.
Plenty of women have run, silly willy.
http://womenshistory.about.com/od/publicofficials/tp/ran_for_president.htm
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Plenty of women have run, silly willy.
http://womenshistory.about.com/od/publicofficials/tp/ran_for_president.htm
You know I have to confess. I knew you were a screwball, but I didn't realize what a dummy you are too. :-\
The author said Republican women who run for president are always a sideshow. My question is which Republican who ran for president were a sideshow? I know you don't know the answer, and I wouldn't trust anything you post on here anyway.
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Carly Fiorina Hiring for Presidential Campaign
Despite her improving political skills, the California businesswoman would be an underdog in a likely all-male GOP field.
By Tim Alberta
Carly Fiorina is laying the groundwork for what one ally says is an "imminent" presidential campaign—one that could launch as early as next month.
The former Hewlett-Packard CEO, who raised her political profile with a failed run against Sen. Barbara Boxer of California in 2010, has frequently been mentioned as a long-shot contender to seek the Republican presidential nomination. The speculation is driven by equal parts novelty and activity: Fiorina, who paid several high-profile visits to early-nominating states in 2014, acknowledged that she would likely be the only woman in the GOP field.
"Look, I think it would be great if we had female candidates—or candidate," Fiorina told National Journal earlier this year.
Fiorina is now poised to become that candidate. According to three sources with direct knowledge of the situation, she has authorized members of her inner circle to seek out and interview candidates for two key positions on her presidential campaign: political director and communications director. Notably, the sources said, her associates are aiming to fill both positions with women.
The search, sources say, is being spearheaded by Amy Noone Frederick, a Republican consultant who sits with Fiorina on the American Conservative Union Foundation's board of directors.
One Republican operative was recently approached about a position with the Unlocking Potential Project, Fiorina's super PAC. The operative, who asked not to be named, said that in the course of the interview one of Fiorina's allies began gauging interest in a separate position "for a certain presidential candidate who is gearing up for a run."
It's unclear if any hires have been made, and emails to officials with Fiorina's PAC were not returned.
Still, people familiar with Fiorina's camp say the organizational outreach proves that she's serious about getting a campaign off the ground—and quickly. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is already effectively in the race and consuming other contenders' oxygen. If Fiorina wants to jump in and make a media splash, she probably can't afford to wait much longer.
"It appears that they want to move fast, which is smart," said Jason Cabel Roe, a Republican consultant in California. "Carly getting in as the 10th candidate is not nearly as interesting as Carly getting in as the first or second candidate."
Meanwhile, as she seeks to make significant personnel moves, Fiorina has also maneuvered to promote herself in front of influential conservative audiences in the early part of next year—a key set of auditions that could very well coincide with the launch of a campaign.
Fiorina, who chairs the ACU Foundation board, is said to have already secured a prime speaking slot at the ACU's 2015 Conservative Political Action Conference. That event will be held in the D.C. suburbs on the last weekend of February. But the bigger prize is one weekend earlier. Fiorina, sources say, has accepted a coveted invitation to deliver the keynote address to the Council for National Policy—home to many of the conservative movement's biggest donors—at its private gathering in southern California.
"February's going to be a big month for her, with two signature events where she's going to have a big role," said one prominent conservative activist leader, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of his involvement with both the ACU and CNP. "One speech in front of movement leadership, then one speech in front of grassroots activists—those are going to be big moments for her."
If her message stays consistent with appearances of late, Fiorina will hope to appeal to these audiences as a political outsider. But she is hardly without political connections.
While serving as an adviser to Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign, Fiorina was named chairwoman of a Republican National Committee fundraising initiative. She parlayed that role into a speaking slot at that year's GOP convention, and had even generated some buzz as a dark-horse vice-presidential pick.
Though she could not overcome California's liberal electorate in her 2010 Senate race, Fiorina showed significant improvement on the stump over the life of the campaign. Her 10-point loss did not tarnish her stature as a rising star among Republican women; in fact, her opportunities and exposure have steadily increased. She served as a vice chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2012. Her successful takeover of the ACU Foundation board last year was the clearest indication yet of her political chops—and ambition.
That said, if and when Fiorina pulls the trigger on a presidential run, she will enter the contest a decided underdog. She enjoys little national name recognition, lacks a top-notch political team, and has never won a major race for public office. Not only did she lose by double digits in 2010, she left the campaign with a significant amount of debt, some of which remains unretired more than four years later. (This fact is not lost on Republicans who have examined her viability as a sleeper candidate.)
But none of that may matter. Several people familiar with Fiorina's operation suspect that her ultimate goal is not winning the nomination, but rather breaking through what is expected to be an all-male Republican field and positioning herself for the second spot on the GOP ticket.
"I don't think Carly's running for president. I think Carly's running for vice president," said Roe, the California Republican. "If Hillary Clinton's the nominee, Republicans need a woman front and center—probably on the ticket. And Carly knows that."
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Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina to test waters for potential run at N.H. event
By James Pindell
Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett Packard chief executive who unsuccessfully ran for the US Senate in California, will return to New Hampshire next month as she explores a potential Republican bid for president next year.
Fiorina is scheduled to give a keynote talk at a Feb. 10 “Politics and Eggs” breakfast, an event sponsored by the New England Council that has become a rite of passage for presidential candidates. Those who speak at the event sign wooden eggs that serve as keepsakes for the business and civic leaders who attend.
“We’re very excited. We’re going to have Carly start doing hand exercises to get ready for all the wooden eggs,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a spokeswoman for Fiorina.
This trip means that Fiorina and Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey have been to the Granite State five times in the last year, leaving them behind only US Representative Peter King of New York in terms of the most frequent visiting potential presidential candidates.
Last week, Fiorina attended a party in Washington honoring US Representative Frank Guinta of New Hampshire.
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I dont remember exactly how high of office anne richards ran for but she probably would have been decent.
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I dont remember exactly how high of office anne richards ran for but she probably would have been decent.
I thought she was a good governor.
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I dont remember exactly how high of office anne richards ran for but she probably would have been decent.
she was anti-gun, ironically. Tried to limit semi-automatic handgun sales in TX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Richards#cite_note-8
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Carly Fiorina, no longer deadbeat candidate
By Debra J. Saunders
This just in: Carly Fiorina paid off the debt from her losing 2010 Senate campaign against Sen. Barbara Boxer. As I wrote last month, the former HP head is mulling over a 2016 presidential run — which made her failure to pay off her handlers and vendors rather puzzling. Losing candidates often owe money, but she’s a rich candidate, who was partially self-funded. Nonetheless, she left behind debt just under $500,000. As I wrote:
Like the evil George Wickham in “Pride and Prejudice,” Fiorina skipped California owing buckets of cash to her one-time pals. She owes $60,000 to former campaign managerMarty Wilson, who now works for the California Chamber of Commerce, and another $20,000 to his former communications firm. She shorted her lawyer Ben Ginsberg, formerly of Patton Boggs, to the tune of $44,000. She owes $3,750 to a former press secretary, $5,000 to another communications aide and $7,500 to her erstwhile political director. She stiffed political consultant Joe Shumate, who died in 2010, to the tune of $30,000. (Yes, she stiffed a stiff — even though she lauded Shumate as a “trusted adviser and friend” upon his death.)
Tuesday I heard from Sarah Isgur Flores, who works for Fiorina’s Unlocking Potential Project. She sent me this transcript from a Fiorina interview on the Hugh Hewitt show. (You can listen to the whole interview at http://www.hughhewitt.com/wp-content/uploads/01-09hhs-fiorina.mp3)
HH: Now what is your timetable, by the way, Carly Fiorina, for deciding whether or not to formally join the race for president?
CF: Well, probably I will make a final decision in the March-April timeframe. I mean, something could change, but that’s currently what I’m thinking about.
HH: And you’re staffing up and all that. What about your Senate campaign debt from 2010?
CF: Well, that campaign debt has been paid off. So…
HH: Okay.
CF: That, yeah, it’s all been paid off, and you know, campaign debt is nothing particularly new. Hillary Clinton had $25 million dollars’ worth of it when she finished her last presidential run, and I don’t know, took four years or something to pay it off. But we have no debt.
Because he was owed the most money, Marty Wilson served as the de facto spokesman for the IOU crowd. Over the phone, Wilson confirmed that he has been told “check is in the mail” — and he believes it. Wilson also said all vendors will be paid what they are owed, not at a discount.
Fiorina has dispatched an issue that was bound to dog her bid for the White House — or I suspect, what is really her bid to be discussed as a smart female running mate for a GOP nominee who, unlike her, actually has won an election.
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she was anti-gun, ironically. Tried to limit semi-automatic handgun sales in TX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Richards#cite_note-8
lmfao what did you google her and anti gun?
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lmfao what did you google her and anti gun?
what difference does it make how he found it?
why would you even bother asking that?
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what difference does it make how he found it?
why would you even bother asking that?
lol what difference does it make if she had a different view on gun control?
I ask b/c its just like the trailer park ranger to think that you can find the perfect candidate with no issues you disagree with.
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lol what difference does it make if she had a different view on gun control?
I ask b/c its just like the trailer park ranger to think that you can find the perfect candidate with no issues you disagree with.
Is that the question I asked you?
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lmfao what did you google her and anti gun?
I googled her name and wiki. She was good, not great. can't deny her anti-gun actions, linked from wiki.
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Is that the question I asked you?
did you just ignore the second part of that post moron?
I googled her name and wiki. She was good, not great. can't deny her anti-gun actions, linked from wiki.
she was very pro gun, she did have different ideas on gun control though.
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did you just ignore the second part of that post moron?
she was very pro gun, she did have different ideas on gun control though.
I ignore most of what you write - especially when you start by ignoring a direct and very simple questions
when that's your initial response I know this is one of your typical time wasters
BTW - Nothing about Ann Richards matters anymore
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she was very pro gun, she did have different ideas on gun control though.
She vetoed concealed carry for texans. Her nice quote:
"Well, I'm not a sexist, but there is not a woman in this state who could find a gun in her handbag, much less a lipstick."
She supported a ban on certain semi-auto weapons
Also, she was a fcking democrat.
Now, aside from all that LOL... how was she very pro gun? I'd love to meet the democrat that supports AWB and opposes concealed carry that is "very pro gun".
She was before your time, decades ago... I think this might be the shiny memory, like many people have of reagan, ignoring much of the lib shit people actually stood for.
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She vetoed concealed carry for texans. Her nice quote:
"Well, I'm not a sexist, but there is not a woman in this state who could find a gun in her handbag, much less a lipstick."
She supported a ban on certain semi-auto weapons
Also, she was a fcking democrat.
Now, aside from all that LOL... how was she very pro gun? I'd love to meet the democrat that supports AWB and opposes concealed carry that is "very pro gun".
She was before your time, decades ago... I think this might be the shiny memory, like many people have of reagan, ignoring much of the lib shit people actually stood for.
was before my time but you should look up all stances 240, like you have said about obama "he evolved"...
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was before my time but you should look up all stances 240, like you have said about obama "he evolved"...
She was purrty consistent.
??? at what point in her presidency did Ann Richards change positions and suddenly support permits? NONE!
n 1994, Texas citizens approved a nonbinding resolution asking the state to grant Texans the right to carry concealed weapons. Gov. Ann Richards had vetoed such a bill prior to the vote and vowed that no such bill would pass while she was governor. By contrast, her opponent in the race for governor, George W. Bush, said that if elected he would sign an appropriately structured "right-to-carry" law. Bush won the election and on May 26, 1995, signed a law granting Texans the right to carry concealed firearms. When he did so, Texas joined 22 other states that since 1986 have made it legal to carry concealed weapons.
??? At what point in her presidency did Ann Richards suddenly reverse course and no longer support AWB? NONE!
Dude, when did she "evolve"? WTF where did you get that idea? More "reaganization" of liberal leaders by the right, 2 decades later.
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Carly Fiorina: 'Seriously considering' presidential race
By: Catalina Camia
Carly Fiorina isn’t taking the prospect of a 2016 presidential campaign lightly.
“Well, I haven’t made that decision yet, but what I can tell you is that I’m very seriously considering running,” she said, according to excerpts of Fiorina’s interview with Neil Cavuto airing Thursday night on Fox Business Network.
Fiorina, who was forced out as Hewlett-Packard’s CEO in 2005, has been stepping up her appearances at political events and in states such as Iowa as she assesses whether to seek the Republican presidential nomination. She lost a Senate race to Barbara Boxer in 2010.
At this early stage, Fiorina is the only woman who is openly considering the GOP race. Fiorina suggested she offers a contrast to others who also have their eye on the White House.
“Because I think we need different experience, different perspective and a different voice,” she said.
She took aim at big government and its impact on entrepreneurs and small business owners.
“It’s not the entrepreneurial spirit in this nation that is dying,” Fiorina said. “We have a leviathan called the government that’s crushing that spirit … We’re at a point now where the government is so big, so complex, so unaccountable, so inefficient, so corrupt in so many cases that it is becoming harder and harder for people with guts, and brains, and ambitions and gifts to put them to work.”
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Who wants Carly Fiorina?
Some say a business-savvy woman would be a welcome addition to the Republican field.
By Jonathan Topaz
Carly Fiorina knows she’s a long shot for the presidency.
She’s never held elected office and has less name recognition than several other potential GOP rivals, two things she readily concedes. Her detractors, meanwhile, note that her one past attempt at elected office was a dud and her tenure as Hewlett-Packard’s CEO — her big private-sector bona fide — was rocky.
“There is no doubt that as the only nonpolitician in the race, if I were to get in, that I have hurdles to overcome,” Fiorina, 60, said in an interview.
Yet even strategists who wonder why she’d bother running admit that, with expectations so low, a Fiorina 2016 campaign would have upsides for her image — as well as for the Republican Party as a whole.
Fiorina is positioning herself as a business-savvy outsider with a compelling personal story who can command a stage. If she avoids stumbles, a run could boost her standing in GOP circles; some speculate her real goal is the vice presidency or a Cabinet slot.
Fiorina also is the only woman so far considering running on the Republican side, a blessing for a party criticized for its dearth of female leaders.
“[T]here are a lot of voters out there who are less interested in how many times people have run for office, less interested in how many years people have held office, less interested in how many donors they have, and more interested in, ‘What are they saying to me?’” said Fiorina, who is aiming for a final decision on whether to run by March or April.
Party insiders say Fiorina has a tough sell ahead.
A dozen former and current staffers and Republican strategists were skeptical, and in some cases outright dismissive, of a Fiorina candidacy.
“Pretty much everybody else potentially running for president … is further along” in terms of public awareness and support with the base, Republican strategist Matt Mackowiak said.
Her newly hired spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores, acknowledged as much: “Her name ID is a little low.”
Fiorina also finds herself in an ideological netherworld. She told POLITICO she’s “clearly not an establishment politician,” but she has held major positions within the party. She was named vice chairwoman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2011 and before that served as an economic adviser for the 2008 presidential campaign of John McCain, a tea party scourge.
Still, she holds many conservative positions, including being staunchly anti-abortion. When she ran for Senate from California in 2010, she positioned herself on the right of the GOP field. She’s decried liberal hypocrisy in forums such as the Conservative Political Action Conference and plans to appear at the upcoming Iowa Freedom Summit hosted by conservative firebrand Rep. Steve King alongside grass-roots favorites Ben Carson, Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin.
At a panel about small business this month, Fiorina sounded more like a Silicon Valley CEO than a presidential candidate. She talked comfortably about venture capital mechanics and the entrepreneurial “ecosystem.” She made only oblique references to a government “hostile” to small business. She never used the words “Obama” or “Democrat.”
Fiorina, who began her career as a secretary, was the first woman in history to run a Fortune 20 company when she took over HP in 1999. She feuded with her board and was forced to resign after 5 1/2 years. She engineered a $25 billion acquisition of Compaq, a deal criticized at the time but since hailed by some industry analysts as a success. HP stock had a net drop of more than 50 percent during her tenure, far more than that of Dell or IBM, two key competitors.
Strategists warn that Fiorina might struggle to run for the presidency on her business experience given her tumultuous tenure at HP. “It’s always a little difficult for a CEO to run for office,” said Ken Khachigian, a former adviser. “You have a lot of business decisions that aren’t always popular.”
In 2010, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California repeatedly hit Fiorina for the approximately 30,000 layoffs that followed the Compaq merger and for outsourcing jobs overseas. Boxer won that race by 10 points.
Fiorina makes no apologies for her time at HP and its effect on her campaign.
“I’m extremely proud of what I did at HP,” Fiorina said, citing increased growth rates and cash flow during her tenure. “I will run on that record all day long.”
Fiorina’s supporters say she fought tough against an entrenched blue-state incumbent and performed better than that year’s GOP gubernatorial candidate, former eBay CEO Meg Whitman. Fiorina began her campaign a month after completing chemotherapy for breast cancer and was briefly hospitalized in the final week of the campaign with an infection.
Critics, however, argue that Fiorina was an awkward candidate who lost convincingly in a wave Republican midterm year.
Earlier this month, Fiorina repaid the roughly $500,000 in remaining debt from her Senate run. Before then, she had repaid less than $50,000 total since the campaign ended, according to Federal Election Commission reports. Party insiders have criticized her for taking more than four years to repay the funds, and some pointed out that she did so only after increasing her media exposure in advance of a potential presidential run.
One person who worked on her campaign noted that Fiorina and her husband, Frank, bought a $6.1 million house in northern Virginia years before paying off her debt.
“For someone who is as wealthy as she is to still have debt, it’s outrageous,” Mackowiak said days before Fiorina announced her debts were settled.
Fiorina pointed out that Hillary Clinton, the presumed front-runner for the 2016 Democratic nomination, took four years to repay about $25 million from her 2008 presidential run. “Certainly, I would rather it had been settled earlier, but campaign debt is nothing new,” Fiorina said.
Ahead of a potential run, Fiorina has spoken to donors in early primary states. She’s also visited Iowa and New Hampshire several times in recent months and participated in a September women’s leadership event in South Carolina with Sen. Tim Scott. She will be in Des Moines on Jan. 24 at King’s summit and New Hampshire in February for a “Politics and Eggs” event. She’s also a confirmed speaker for CPAC next month.
Unlocking Potential PAC, which Fiorina founded last June to engage female voters, was active in the midterm cycle, raising nearly $2 million. To the delight of other Republicans, Fiorina has repeatedly slammed Democrats for insulting women by focusing heavily on reproductive rights and claiming the GOP is waging a “war on women.”
“She is someone who Republicans need to have in the race because she is a woman and she is a successful woman,” GOP strategist Ford O’Connell said.
Former staffers describe Fiorina as a good fundraiser and an excellent retail politician willing to put in long hours.
“She knows how to connect with people,” said Jeff Corless, her 2010 political director. “She came across as genuine. She excited people. She’s ready for the campaign trail, in my mind.”
“I’ve never seen a stronger constitution in my life,” said her 2010 campaign ad-maker, Fred Davis. He added that Fiorina dealt with her cancer with such toughness that it “barely fazed her.”
When asked about her long-shot status, multiple former staffers brought up Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama, underdogs who won the Democratic nominations in 1976 and 2008, respectively.
If she runs, Fiorina can at least claim to be more than a career politician. “A lot of people in political life have known only politics,” she said, smiling. “And that’s a narrow set of experiences.”
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Carly Fiorina: Obama Doesn't Deserve Credit For Economic Recovery
By Igor Bobic
Republican businesswoman Carly Fiorina lambasted President Barack Obama hours before the State of the Union address, disputing the notion that he -- and his six years in office -- deserved any credit for the rebounding economy.
"He will apparently declare victory on the economy tonight, but of course, whatever life there is in the economy is not due to his policies, it's in spite of his policies," the former CEO of Hewlett Packard and potential 2016 presidential candidate said in a Tuesday interview with Newsmax.
Obama is expected to acknowledge positive economic indicators -- including a steadily declining unemployment rate, GDP growth and new market highs on Wall Street -- when he addresses the nation Tuesday evening. He will also propose a plan to extend tax credits to the middle class by hiking taxes on wealthier Americans, a course of action opposed by many in the Republican Party.
"He's always been interested in redistributing wealth rather than growing the economy," Fiorina said. "This isn't a new theme for him; he's tried this over and over and over. … What's surprising is that he is doubling down on what has already been a failed strategy in the face of a House and a Senate that are GOP-controlled."
Fiorina's comments about Obama's legacy echo those by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who suggested earlier this month that the good news just might have something to do with the election of a Republican Congress.
Though considered a long-shot for the presidency, Fiorina said she is "seriously considering" throwing her hat into the ring.
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Here’s Why Carly Fiorina Thinks She Can Best Criticize Hillary Clinton
by Zeke J Miller
Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina is gearing up to announce a White House bid this year, positioning herself as the Republican party’s chief critic of likely Democratic nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Fiorina begins as a relative unknown, and trails far in the polls. In a speech to the Iowa Freedom Summit, a conservative cattle call hosted by Rep. Steve King, Fiorina offered a preview of her anti-Clinton message, which she believes she, as the only other woman in the race, is best equipped to offer.
“Like Hillary Clinton, I too have traveled hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe,” she said. “But unlike her, I have actually accomplished something. Mrs. Clinton, flying is an activity not an accomplishment.”
The full Clinton excerpt is below:
“We must understand our role in the world – which is to lead – and the nature of our allies and especially, our adversaries. Like Hillary Clinton, I too have travelled hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe. But unlike her, I have actually accomplished something. Mrs. Clinton, flying is not an accomplishment, it’s an activity. I have met Vladimir Putin and know that it will take more to halt his ambitions than a gimmicky red ‘Reset’ button. Having done business in over 80 countries and having served as the Chairman of the External Advisory Board at the CIA for several eyars, I know that China and Russia are state-sponsors of cyberwarfare and have a strategy to steal our intellectual property. I know Bibi Netanyahu and know that when he warns us that Iran is a danger to this nation as well as to his own, that we must listen. And unlike Hillary Clinton I know what difference it makes that our American Ambassador and three other brave Americans were killed in a deliberate terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9-11 in Libya. And apparently unlike Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, I know that the response of our nation must be more forceful than the arrest of a single individual a year later.”
A Republican strategist told TIME last year that Fiorina could be a potent weapon for the GOP in the coming cycle. “The most effective way to criticize a woman is to have another woman do it.”
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Like Meg Whitman (who didn’t vote for 30 years) Fiorina is flawed candidate. Her business experience is ostensibly her qualification for running, but the company imploded during her tenure and the stock dropped more than 50%. She was very publicly fired and everyone connected to Hewlett Packard says she was a colossal failure (and that’s one of the nicer comments). Shareholders hated her. In her Senate race against Boxer, she was caught making catty comments about her opponent’s hairdo (nevermind that Fiorina's hair looks like a mop) is that the kind of leadership people want on a national stage? Who in his right mind would donate money to her candidacy? ???
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Fiorina: 'Looking more likely' I'll run for president
by Alexandra Jaffe
Washington (CNN)Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina said Thursday it's "looking more likely" that she'll run for president in 2016, though she acknowledged she faces challenges in the wide-open Republican presidential primary field.
In an interview on Boston Herald Radio, Fiorina said her primary concern right now is introducing herself to voters, and raising enough money to compete.
"Of course people don't know me and they need to get to know me," Fiorina said. "Do we need to raise money? Yes. Do we need to raise as much money as Jeb Bush? No."
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's team has telegraphed plans to raise $100 million in the first quarter of the year, an eye-popping sum intended to discourage some of his potential GOP opponents from the race. Fiorina said, however, she believes there are other ways to compete.
"Money is important, but money is not everything, and I actually think good, old-fashioned, on-the-ground, reach-out politics counts for a lot," she said.
Her announcement late last year of her interest in the potential 2016 race surprised many political watchers, as she's never held public office, and made just one run at it, a failed challenge to Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer in 2010. Since announcing, she's hired staff and is headed to New Hampshire later this month, with an announcement of her decision reportedly planned for May.
If she were to jump in the race, Fiorina could likely self-fund to some degree, as she did during her 2010 run for Senate.
In addition to her personal wealth, Fiorina's position as the only GOP woman openly considering a bid could be an asset. She was recently labeled "the GOP's weapon against Hillary Clinton," the presumptive Democratic nominee, in a Forbes feature highlighting her advantages as a potential female contender.
But Fiorina said her appeal is based on more than that.
"I'm not running because I'm a woman but the fact is I am a woman ... and I think it is an important part of who I am," she said. " "I certainly believe that all of us, men and women, are judged on our character and our accomplishments and our track records and our lives — and I look forward to those things being examined about me."
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Eyeing Presidential Run, Carly Fiorina Tip-Toes Around Marriage
The former CEO of Hewlett-Packard and failed senate candidate pushes her conservative cred
by Neal Broverman
Former executive Carly Fiorina has all but said she's angling for the Republican nomination for president next year. To lay the groundwork, Fiorina gave an interview to The Christian Post discussing some issues near and dear to conservatives: abortion and same-sex marriage.
Fiorina was careful to not be as adamant in her opposition to marriage equality as she was to abortion rights (where she claimed embryos feel pain and fetuses dream). When asked about the upcoming Supreme Court case weighing nationwide marriage equality, Fiorina gave this opaque response: "[Same-sex marriage] is an important conversation that is going on in homes, churches, and communities across the country. I think that the worst thing the Supreme Court can do right now is shortcut this conversation."
Fiorina, who ran unsuccessfully for the Senate in 2010, also claimed that federal spending on education does nothing for students.
Here is the transcript of that interview:
CP: You've said that you're thinking about running for president. How will you make that decision?
Fiorina: I am seriously considering it. My decision will be based on if we can build the right support, team, and financial resources.
CP: You recently delivered a pro-life speech at The Heritage Foundation in conjunction with the March for Life. Some politicians try to avoid that issue as much as they can. Why did you want to tackle the issue?
Fiorina: Because life is an important issue that we shouldn't be afraid to talk about. Like I said at that March for Life event, science is on our side. It shows that unborn babies feel pain and dream at five months and that the DNA on the day that we die is the same DNA we had as a zygote. Every human life is precious and has potential.
CP: I saw recently that you do not support Common Core. What is your main concern — federal involvement? The standards themselves? All of the above?
Fiorina: America's future prosperity requires that changes be made to Common Core. The facts are pretty clear, the bigger our education department becomes, the worse our public education becomes. There's no connection between spending more money in our nation's capital and a better school system. Parents should be given choice, competition, and accountability in the classroom. Teaching entrepreneurship, innovation, risk taking, and imagination comes with local control and we have to maintain this in our school system.
CP: This summer the U.S. Supreme Court will decide whether the U.S. Constitution requires states to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples. What should the Court do?
Fiorina: This is an important conversation that is going on in homes, churches, and communities across the country. I think that the worst thing the Supreme Court can do right now is shortcut this conversation.
CP: What are your religious beliefs and how do those beliefs inform your political views?
Fiorina: I am a Christian. I believe that everyone of us is equal in the eyes of God, and therefore, I know that everyone is capable of living a life of dignity, purpose, and meaning.
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Carly Fiorina Shapes Herself as the Republican Foil to Hillary Clinton
By AMY CHOZICK
WASHINGTON — She has been the chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, a senior adviser to a Republican presidential nominee and a candidate for the United States Senate. But Carly Fiorina recently took on her boldest role yet: Hillary Rodham Clinton’s loudest critic.
Over the past few weeks, Ms. Fiorina has mocked Mrs. Clinton’s globe-trotting as secretary of state, assailed Mrs. Clinton’s use of only a private email account to do official business, and even accused Mrs. Clinton of stealing intellectual property. From her. Twice.
Ms. Fiorina insists she has no problem with Mrs. Clinton personally — only with her liberal philosophy and policies, and what she dismisses as an unimpressive record on getting things done.
“Like Hillary Clinton, I too, have traveled hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe, but unlike her, I have actually accomplished something,” she told conservatives in Iowa in January. “Mrs. Clinton: Flying is an activity, not an accomplishment.”
Ms. Fiorina easily sticks out among the wide field of possible Republican contenders for president: Most of the others are white men. But what has distinguished her most so far, aside from her gender, is not her private-sector experience or her pro-market policies, but her increasingly pointed attacks on Mrs. Clinton.
Of course, every Republican contender has taken aim at Mrs. Clinton, the presumed Democratic opponent who looms in the distance. But Ms. Fiorina alone can present herself as a natural foil without the added risk of being labeled a sexist man.
“In a field of men, she could really emerge as a very effective critic of Hillary, which Republicans are going to need,” said Rob Stutzman, a Republican strategist in Sacramento. “You look at the field, and obviously there is a space for a very articulate, conservative woman.”
Allies of Mrs. Clinton, who plans to make gender a central part of her appeal, call this a cynical ploy. Ms. Fiorina, they say, is being put to use by a Republican Party that is desperate to damage Mrs. Clinton without antagonizing female voters.
“These guys really believe it’s unfair that women are now running,” said Ann Lewis, a senior adviser to Mrs. Clinton in her 2008 campaign.
Speaking after Ms. Fiorina had just ridiculed Mrs. Clinton’s travel pace as secretary of state at the Iowa event, Ms. Lewis said: “Carly Fiorina went only to show she could be mean to Hillary.”
And Adrienne Elrod, a spokeswoman for Correct the Record, a group set up to defend Mrs. Clinton, dismissed Ms. Fiorina as “short on substance, with sophomoric one-liners,” in contrast to Mrs. Clinton’s “forward-thinking agenda and lifetime of work fighting for children and families.”
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In an interview, Ms. Fiorina, 60, said she was not seeking the approval of Republican leaders. “The party is not leaning on me to do anything, and I didn’t ask the party’s permission,” she said.
But she did not shy away from arguing that her gender, along with her having worked her way up from a secretary to chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, made her particularly well positioned to go after Mrs. Clinton.
“The Democrats and Hillary Clinton have made gender an issue with their ridiculous ‘war on women,’” Ms. Fiorina said, alluding to the contention that Republicans have sought to hold women back by denying them reproductive rights and pay equity, among other things. “I think if Hillary Clinton faces a woman opponent, she will get a hitch in her swing.”
In addition to her belief in deregulation and free markets, Ms. Fiorina is adamantly against abortion rights. “Liberals believe that flies are worth protecting but that the life of an unborn child is not,” she said in Iowa.
Some of Ms. Fiorina’s lines of attack seem less high-minded.
She accused Mrs. Clinton, whose most recent memoir is “Hard Choices,” of copying the title of her own 2006 memoir, “Tough Choices.” An aide to Ms. Fiorina posted an image on Twitter of the two book jackets side by side.
And last month, after Mrs. Clinton urged 5,000 female tech professionals in Silicon Valley to “unlock our full potential,” Ms. Fiorina again accused Mrs. Clinton of stealing: Her leadership political action committee, an aide to Ms. Fiorina noted, is called the Unlocking Potential Project. And next weekend she will kick off an Unlocking Potential conference, with the tagline “From Hometowns to Washington: How Women Across America Can Create Real Conservative Change.”
A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton declined to comment, but Ms. Fiorina came in for some derision on The Huffington Post, which recounted the tussle under the headline “Overused Management Bromide Now the Exclusive Property of Carly Fiorina, Apparently.”
A Nexis search identified 618 uses of the phrase “unlocking potential” in news articles in the past year.
Despite their vastly different politics, Mrs. Clinton and Ms. Fiorina have had to weather the challenges of being powerful women in male-dominated worlds.
When Ms. Fiorina, formerly a top executive at Lucent Technologies, took over at Hewlett-Packard in 1999, it was the largest publicly traded company ever to be led by a woman. Yet she also outraged some feminists by saying, “ I hope that we are at a point that everyone has figured out that there is not a glass ceiling.”
Her business career ended a few years later in one of the more notorious flameouts in modern corporate history. After orchestrating a merger with Compaq that was then widely seen as a failure, she was ousted in 2005.
Still, Ms. Fiorina received more than $21 million in severance, and she began to dabble in politics. In 2008 she advised Senator John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee. Two years later, Ms. Fiorina challenged Senator Barbara Boxer of California, but lost by 10 percentage points. “We gained a lot of Republican votes,” she said, but her campaign could not compete with the Democratic get-out-the-vote effort in California.
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Ms. Fiorina moved to Virginia in 2011 with her husband, Frank, and is now involved in several nonprofits, including Opportunity International, a provider of microloans to people in developing countries that lists her friend Deborah Bowker as an executive.
She also left behind nearly $500,000 in campaign debt and several unhappy political consultants. The San Francisco Chronicle called Ms. Fiorina the “deadbeat presidential candidate,” a characterization the newspaper later took back. In the interview, she said the debts were her campaign’s, not hers personally, and that she had repaid them.
Ms. Fiorina has not spared her Republican rivals entirely. She suggested that Jeb Bush hoped to “scare people out of the race” by raising the most money, but added, “I don’t think it’s working.”
She also said her party could be more sensitive when it comes to discussing women’s issues. “I think Democrats have to work on their policies,” she said, “and Republicans have to work on our tone.”
For now, though, Ms. Fiorina seems content to focus most of her fire on Mrs. Clinton, a target who in practical terms is a very long way off.
“I don’t know that she views it as her assigned role,” Ms. Bowker said of Ms. Fiorina’s attacks on Mrs. Clinton. “But is she comfortable making those comments she’s made lately? Absolutely, she’s comfortable.”
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Being the POTUS is a man's job. Period.
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Economic growth is not a government function. The best thing they can do is stay out of the way, lower taxes, and reduce regulations.
People such as myself and many others who are business owners and are taxed at least twice on our money would like to see little or no corporate tax.
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Carly Fiorina Slams Tim Cook As A Hypocrite For Indiana Criticism
By Lydia O'Connor
Likely GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina is calling out Apple CEO Tim Cook as a hypocrite for criticizing Indiana's new Religious Freedom Restoration Act while his company does business in multiple countries that discriminate.
“When Tim Cook is upset about all the places that he does business because of the way they treat gays and women, he needs to withdraw from 90% of the markets that he’s in, including China and Saudi Arabia,” the former Hewlett-Packard CEO told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “But I don’t hear him being upset about that.”
Last week, Cook joined a chorus of other tech industry executives speaking out against Indiana's new law, which allows individuals and corporations to cite religious beliefs as a defense in a lawsuit. That prompted fears that businesses would use the law to legally refuse service to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender customers.
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) insisted that the legislation was never intended to shield such discrimination, but the public backlash mounted. On Thursday, state lawmakers added language establishing that the law does not authorize businesses to refuse service on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Critics, however, said the fix was too weak and called for Indiana to pass comprehensive nondiscrimination protections.
Fiorina, whose criticism of Cook echoes that of other conservative commentators, told The Wall Street Journal that she found nothing objectionable in the original bill that Pence signed last week. While she has stopped short of endorsing same-sex marriage, she said last week that same-sex couples bound by civil unions should receive equal government benefits.
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Yeah... Carly Fiorina for President because she did such a great job with HP... ::)
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Yeah... Carly Fiorina for President because she did such a great job with HP... ::)
Ha ha ha
You have to give her credit: she has more gall than any candidate we have seen in a long time. She had a spectacular flop at HP and lost a senate race to Boxer in California. Rejected by CA voters, she immediately moved to Northern Virgina to be close to the corridors of power in Washington DC. And now she wants to be President. ::)
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Fiorina is up in Clinton's space in South Carolina
By Eric Bradner
Columbia, South Carolina (CNN)Hillary Clinton was in town on Wednesday -- and so was Carly Fiorina.
First the former Hewlett Packard chief executive popped up outside the Marriott hotel where Clinton was just about to kick off a campaign event, offering to take questions from the press since Clinton so often won't.
Forty-five minutes later and six blocks down the road, there Fiorina was again, bragging to the South Carolina House Republican caucus about what she'd just done as they chewed on grilled chicken at a Hilton hotel luncheon.
"I've answered probably 420-plus questions on the record about everything, from, 'Is a hot dog a sandwich?' -- I flubbed that one, I will tell you -- to what I would do about ISIS and everything in between," Fiorina said. "And Hillary Clinton has answered maybe 15 questions."
Barely registering at the polls and less than three months away from the GOP's first primary debate, Fiorina is making her one and only play: attacking the best-known presidential candidate of them all. And while it's too soon to tell whether Fiorina's tactics are paying off in the polls, Republican officials and activists in the early-primary states say what she's doing is working.
This is the niche Fiorina has carved for herself: In the Republican lineup of presidential candidates, she's the anti-Clinton designated hitter.
By tracking the Democratic front-runner down in Columbia, Fiorina all but guaranteed herself at least a small spot in national news stories about Clinton's campaign -- just enough limelight to make a difference for a campaign desperate to climb out of the GOP's ranks of also-rans in one of the most crowded primary fields in recent memory.
Fiorina's go-to line -- the one she peppers into every speech and question-and-answer session -- is "unlike Hillary Clinton." And the fact that they are the two women in the 2016 presidential race might be about all that Clinton and Fiorina -- or at least their campaigns -- have in common.
More important, though, is that strategically, they exist in entirely different worlds.
For Clinton, the run for the White House is more of a long slog. She's under no particular pressure from other candidates in her own party to deliver bold policy ideas, field tough questions from reporters or stage the sorts of campaign rallies that she's certain to attend a year from now.
Fiorina, though, is already under serious pressure.
Just three weeks into her campaign for the Republican nomination, she's cognizant she only a little more than two months to climb into the ranks of the top 10 contenders in a much broader field. That's in order to appear in the first Fox News debate, and the top-tier of CNN's planned two debates -- crucial to gaining a much broader audience.
"Now that I understand the rules and I understand the goals, I'm going to work hard to meet the goals," she told CNN. "I don't think they change (my tactics) that much. I'm confident that I'll be on that debate stage."
So Fiorina has chosen to play up an angle that could get her there: the GOP's female anti-Clinton.
She doesn't delve much into her own vision for domestic policy on the campaign trail, instead leaning on her technology experience and highlighting her stylistic differences with President Barack Obama and, particularly, Clinton. The subtext: Of everyone in the room who shares a distaste for Clinton, Fiorina's is the most bitter of all.
The former CEO said she was intentionally chasing Clinton down in Columbia, noting that she'd scheduled a trip to the Palmetto State's capital city weeks earlier. But Wednesday's events told a different story -- as did the email Fiorina aide Sarah Isgur Flores sent to the press corps that travels with Clinton on Tuesday night.
"We know it must be hard covering the 'Hillary for America But Against Transparency' campaign," she said.
"We've answered hundreds of questions from reporters because we believe the American people will not and should not elect a president that can't answer for her record, won't explain her positions or for whom the truth is whatever she can get away with," Flores said.
Deepening its attack, Fiorina's campaign launched a social media effort with the hashtag "#AskHillary."
Still, tallying the number of questions Fiorina has taken compared to Clinton is just the latest line of attack the former business executive's campaign has used.
One of her biggest applause lines on the stump is a critique of Clinton's time as secretary of state: Jetting around the world, Fiorina says, "is an activity, not an accomplishment."
She, too, has met foreign leaders, Fiorina said Wednesday.
"Unlike Hillary Clinton, I didn't do photo ops. I had real meetings," she said.
She also used a playful but personal jab at Bill Clinton, turning one woman's Facebook attack on female presidential candidates around by saying she's heard of male politicians' "judgment being clouded by hormones."
While her gender could make Fiorina's attacks on Clinton more effective with some audiences, the gambit also comes with some risks, conservative operatives and commentators have warned.
RedState.com's Leon H. Wolf compared it to "tokenism" and said Fiorina's gambit risks undermining the female leaders better known to party insiders, like South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and New Mexico Gov. Susanna Martinez.
Nicolle Wallace, a former top George W. Bush aide and now co-host of The View, asked in a Politico podcast this month, of Fiorina's role as the GOP's chief Clinton attack dog: "Why does that fall to a woman?"
"You know, I don't want to be the chick police, but I think that Carly will go far by broadening the attack to everything that's wrong with the liberal approach as opposed to being the thorn in Hillary Clinton's side," she said.
"She runs the risk of having it look personal," Wallace said. "But it's certainly up to her, if she thinks she's found her niche as the No. 1 Hillary Clinton critic, I'm sure she'll get a lot of attention."
Still, Fiorina is winning rave reviews on the campaign trail -- particularly in Iowa and New Hampshire, where she's been a fixture and where strong speeches and an outsider's firebrand appeal could help her in a pack of governors and senators.
South Carolina state Rep. Rita Allison, a Republican who chairs the House's education panel, said Fiorina is "very direct, she's very positive, she has great leadership abilities -- I noted that right away."
"As she moves through, if people want to do a comparison (of Fiorina and Clinton), they'll definitely see the difference," Allison said.
"Her name," she said of Fiorina, "will become a kitchen table name very quickly."
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Carly Fiorina won the ‘Happy Hour’ debate. By a lot.
By Chris Cillizza
Carly Fiorina was the only woman on stage at the so-called "Happy Hour" debate on Thursday night. She was also the only one of the seven candidates who made clear that she deserves more attention -- and a more prime spot in the debates -- as the campaign continues.
From the start, Fiorina was poised and confident. She followed a halting and seemingly nervous answer by Texas Gov. Rick Perry with a fluid riff on why she was running and how she was best positioned to beat Hillary Clinton. And, she closed that first answer with this quotable (and good) line: "The highest calling of leadership is to challenge the status quo and unlock the potential of others. We need a leader who will lead the resurgence of this great nation and unlock its potential once again."
That poised and confident answer was a sign of things to come for Fiorina. As people like Perry (still not a good debater), South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham (why was he so sad???) and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (angry much?) struggled, Fiorina shined. She repeatedly hit on her knowledge of the world and foreign policy and, smartly for this Republican audience, went after Clinton on Benghazi.
What made Fiorina stand out -- more than what she said on any particular topic -- was that she looked up to the moment. She was prepared and poised. She rarely glanced at notes. She spoke freely and easily. She had the "it" factor.
Now, winning a debate of second tier candidates that ran at 5 p.m. Eastern time in early August is not the same as winning a general election debate in primetime. Fiorina has been getting rave reviews on the campaign trail but has yet to see any real gains -- either in national polling or surveys done in states like Iowa and New Hampshire.
It seems likely now though that she'll get the boost she's been waiting for. From there, it's up to her to keep it going.
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I dont remember exactly how high of office anne richards ran for but she probably would have been decent.
made it to Governor of Texas
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GOP candidate apparently had her debate remarks leaked after accidentally leaving them in a hotel printer
by Colin Campbell
Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina apparently had her closing statement leaked ahead of the first Republican presidential debate on Thursday.
Sergio Gor, a political operative who works for rival candidate and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), posted the statement on Twitter ahead of the debate. Without giving away the name of the candidate, Gor wrote that the remarks were found in a hotel printer:
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Someone left their closing statement for tonight's @FoxNews debate in the hotel printer.Can you guess who?@LaCivitaC pic.twitter.com/p6rWhnFGAU
It seemed likely at the time that the statement belonged to Fiorina, as she had given very similar remarks before. And sure enough, Fiorina's closing remarks almost exactly tailored to the leaked message.
Here's what she said at the debate:
Hillary Clinton lies about Benghazi. She lies about emails. She is still defending Planned Parenthood and she is still her party's front-runner. 2016 is going to be a fight between conservatism and a Democrat Party that is undermining the very character of this nation. We need a nominee who is going to throw every punch, not pull punches, and someone who cannot stumble before he even gets into the ring. I am not a member of the political class. I am a conservative. I can win this job. I can do this job. I need your help. I need your support. I will, with your help and support, lead the resurgence of this great nation. Thank you.
Fiorina's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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GOP candidate apparently had her debate remarks leaked after accidentally leaving them in a hotel printer
by Colin Campbell
Fionorini being outed by an HP printer, after making her fortune at HP. Argh, the irony!
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Fionorini being outed by an HP printer, after making her fortune at HP. Argh, the irony!
she looked good...at least maybe vice -president material....
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she looked good...at least maybe vice -president material....
sounds like almost all of those repubs would pick her as the veep choice.
she'll be in the next debate, no matter where she's polling.
cruz' super pac gave her half a million. i bet she plays nice with him in the debates.
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sounds like almost all of those repubs would pick her as the veep choice.
she'll be in the next debate, no matter where she's polling.
cruz' super pac gave her half a million. i bet she plays nice with him in the debates.
Agreed...Fiorina is definitely what people thought Sarah Palin would be, but never became...she's earned my respect even though she has failed at basically everything shes done lately
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sounds like almost all of those repubs would pick her as the veep choice.
she'll be in the next debate, no matter where she's polling.
cruz' super pac gave her half a million. i bet she plays nice with him in the debates.
That's been the talk I've been hearing as well.
Even Rick Perry was kissing her ass during the debate.
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Carly Fiorina’s conversion from Hillary Clinton fan to fervent critic
By Ruth Marcus
Carly Fiorina says some, well, interesting things while waiting to go on camera.
In 2010, the then-GOP Senate nominee went all middle-school-cafeteria on her Democratic opponent’s hairdo. “God, what is that hair? Sooo yesterday,” Fiorina, already miked up, commented, quoting an aide’s assessment. Two years earlier, in the makeup room at ABC’s “This Week” with me, Fiorina said something that, at the time, was mildly interesting, but is now revelatory. It was May 2008, close to the end of the long primary battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and we were discussing the two Democratic contenders.
At which point Fiorina, then a campaign surrogate for presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, offered some unprompted praise for Clinton: If Fiorina hadn’t been backing McCain, she told me, she would have been for Clinton.
“That’s off the record,” Fiorina immediately added.
Here a pause for a discussion of journalism ethics. The commonly understood rule governing when quotations are not for the record requires the source to state that position in advance, so that the reporter can agree to the limitation or not.
As veteran editor Norman Pearlstine wrote in a useful set of journalistic guidelines: “We do not allow sources to change the ground rules governing specific quotations after the fact. Once a quote is on the record, it remains there.”
The Post’s style guide cautions that “inexperienced sources — usually ordinary people who unexpectedly find themselves the news — should clearly understand that you are a reporter and should not be surprised to find themselves quoted in the newspaper.”
The first female chief executive of a Fortune 100 company and an authorized surrogate for a presidential nominee does not count as an inexperienced source. I didn’t challenge Fiorina at the time and didn’t use her comments because they didn’t strike me as newsworthy enough: By that point, Clinton was clearly not going to be the Democratic nominee.
Now is different, for two reasons. First, Fiorina’s praise of Clinton then contradicts her attacks on Clinton now. Second, Fiorina is no longer a surrogate; she’s a candidate, for the highest office in the land.
At the time, Fiorina’s comments were surprising but not entirely outlandish. She and Clinton had been two prominent jousters at the glass ceiling. Fiorina was on a mission to woo Clinton voters for McCain. She was outspoken on issues of gender equity, questioning why many health plans covered erectile dysfunction drugs but not birth-control pills and, in the process, embarrassing her own candidate, who had voted twice against requiring insurers to cover contraceptives.
The month after our ABC encounter, Fiorina declared her “great admiration and respect for Hillary Clinton and her candidacy and leadership.”
Compare that with Fiorina today. “Throughout this campaign, I have repeatedly asked Hillary Clinton to name an accomplishment,” she wrote in a commentary published on CNN.com. “She has yet to name one.”
Clinton, she added, is “the epitome of a professional political class that has managed a bloated, inept, corrupt federal government for far too long.”
Fiorina’s shifting stance on Clinton is striking: She has gone from stealth fan to Public Enemy No. 1 — the (not coincidentally female) face in the crowd who is willing to slam Clinton most ferociously as a lightweight and a liar.
One potential answer: Fiorina once was impressed but became disillusioned with Clinton’s performance as secretary of state. But “that was then, this is post-Benghazi” is not an explanation that would sit particularly well with the conservative voters Fiorina is wooing.
Another possible explanation: Fiorina then was busy sucking up to Clinton voters, trying to woo them for McCain. So she got carried away. But this interpretation poses a variation of the classic trial lawyer’s question: Which time were you being disingenuous?
Contacted for comment, Fiorina’s deputy campaign manager, Sarah Isgur Flores, said, “If Carly had been asked at the end of the Clinton-Obama primary who she would have supported in that race, she would have said Mrs. Clinton. . . . Carly, however, doesn’t remember meeting or talking to Ms. Marcus on this or any other subject.”
But the context of that conversation wasn’t which of the two Democratic candidates Fiorina preferred. I clearly recall her telling me she would have supported Clinton if McCain weren’t running.
Fiorina’s political stock, post-debate, is soaring. Her calling card is her willingness — and, perhaps, the freedom her gender bestows — to go after Clinton full-force. This seemed like the right moment to share Fiorina’s earlier assessment of the woman she aims to defeat.
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Fiorina, once an afterthought in GOP race, fends off attacks and fights for a debate slot
By Seema Mehta
Conservative author and media personality Ann Coulter declared on a recent radio show that she despised presidential candidate Carly Fiorina “with the hot, hot hate of a thousand suns” over her support for birthright citizenship. Her ascension in the GOP field was prompted by “affirmative action among Republicans,” Coulter said.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann, who was a front-runner in the presidential polls at this point four years ago, and other conservatives questioned Fiorina’s judgment for a speech she made shortly after Sept. 11 praising the contributions of Muslims to society.
And in recent weeks, Democrats have been highlighting stories about Fiorina’s rocky tenure at Hewlett-Packard. The super PAC backing Fiorina’s candidacy went on offense, taking out a full-page ad in the New York Times on Thursday defending her stewardship of the Silicon Valley firm.
The attacks come at a crucial time as Fiorina tries to claw her way onto the prime-time stage at the September Republican debate in California. It’s quite a turn from earlier this year, when Fiorina was such an afterthought in the race for the GOP nomination that no one bothered with her (aside from Donald Trump, who appears to enjoy poking at much of the GOP field). Some of her Republican rivals even routinely praised her.
“Nobody was worried too much about her before, no one was attacking her, looking at her record. All of those things can happen once you actually become a threat to somebody,” said Katie Packer Gage, a GOP strategist and deputy campaign manager for Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential bid. “That’s a good problem to have.”
After announcing her candidacy, Fiorina, who in 2010 unsuccessfully ran for Senate from California after being fired from Hewlett-Packard, routinely registered 0% support in the polls. But a sterling performance in what some called the “happy hour debate” in August — featuring GOP candidates who failed to register enough poll support to crack the top 10 — has fueled momentum.
In national polls and surveys of voters in Iowa and New Hampshire since the Aug. 6 debate, Fiorina regularly places in the top third among the 17 GOP candidates. In some surveys, Fiorina bests former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Ark. Gov. Mike Huckabee, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, all of whom appeared in the prime-time debate.
Still, it may not be enough to vault Fiorina onto the main stage for the Sept. 16 debate that CNN will host at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley. The cable news station will use averaging of polls since July 16 — weeks before Fiorina began to improve her standings. The candidate described the criteria as unfair because it was based on polling that measured name identification more than anything else.
“It's a little bit like saying if you have a lousy game in the preseason, and you play great all season long, and you make it to the playoff — you don't get to play in the playoffs because of the preseason game,” Fiorina said on Thursday in response to a question from a voter in La Mars, Iowa, about the debate criteria, according to NBC. “It kind of doesn’t seem fair to me.”
A Fiorina campaign official went further, lashing out at CNN and the Republican National Committee, which sanctioned the debate, as “rigging the game to keep Carly off the main debate stage next month.”
There were more national polls before the August debate than there are expected to be since then, leading Fiorina deputy campaign manager Sarah Isgur Flores to argue that the rule amounts to the RNC “putting their thumb on the scale” in favor of establishment candidates.
“We’re proud of Carly’s debate performance. We’re excited that grassroots voters around the country want to hear more from her,” Isgur Flores wrote to Fiorina supporters. “… It’s a simple question: Will we have a fair debate process or will the political establishment keep ignoring grassroots Republicans?”
Fiorina’s support in the polls is driven in part by restive voters who are frustrated by the status quo and are seriously considering outsiders such as her, businessman Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson.
“We’re living in a new time now where we really need change,” said Greg Long, a 68-year-old limo driver who heard Fiorina speak at the State Historical Museum of Iowa steps away from the gold-domed state Capitol in Des Moines. The registered Republican favors Fiorina and Carson. “We really need change. We’ve been doing the same old thing over and over again and getting the same lousy result.”
Fiorina makes her case by saying polling shows that the majority of Americans think the federal government is corrupt and that professional politicians are more focused on themselves than the nation’s well-being.
“The political class has failed you and that’s what I think you’re seeing reflected in my candidacy, among others,” Fiorina said at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines.
Judy Shkolnick and Judy Deutch did not know much about Fiorina aside from her tenure as the chief of Hewlett-Packard. But the two Democrats were so impressed by Fiorina’s debate performance, they decided to see her in person. After listening to Fiorina’s hourlong speech to Jewish voters in Waukee, a suburb of Des Moines, they said they found Fiorina electrifying.
“She could answer any questions thrown to her,” said Deutch, 64, a Clive resident who works in insurance compliance. “She seemed very competent, knowledgeable and a fresh change.”
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Even though she got hit pretty hard with the ugly stick, I'd still hit. Anal.
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Yes or no: Is Carly Fiorina presidential material?
Last week, it was announced that former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina will be allowed to participate in the second GOP debate on Sept. 16. This was a result of her surge in the polls after many commentators felt she was the most impressive candidate in the second-tier debate last month.
But questions have emerged over her business record and her tenure at HP, where the board of directors forced her resignation in 2005. Does Fiorina’s business record qualify her to be president?
Yes
Her record shows she is a true leader, says Bill Mutell
I was a senior vice president at Hewlett-Packard during Carly Fiorina’s tenure as chairman and CEO. Working for Carly was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. She is a person of tremendous courage, character, capacity and conviction. Carly is the one of the brightest, most articulate, candid, well-versed and engaging leaders I have ever known. Period.
Those of us who were part of HP while Carly was CEO know firsthand the incredible work that was accomplished after the merger with Compaq because we were there to experience it. Unfortunately, people who have never worked with Carly, worked at HP, worked in the business industry in general, or who have their partisan blinders on have launched an assault on Carly’s successful tenure.
Their claims that Carly was not an effective CEO are just plain wrong. In politics, an ability to twist or change the facts is an everyday occurrence. But Carly and I, we come from the business world. And in the business world, facts matter.
Here are the facts. While CEO of HP, Carly fostered a work environment with emphasis on innovation, achievement and accountability. As a result of Carly’s leadership, revenue doubled to more than $80 billion, innovation tripled to 15 patents per day, the revenue growth rate more than quadrupled to 6.5 percent, and HP grew to be the 11th-largest company in the U.S.
One of Carly’s first tasks was to eliminate the overly burdensome bureaucracy within HP by eliminating product group silos and consolidating business functions across the company. Her new streamlined organization helped turn a declining and seemingly irrelevant HP into a stronger company. Did Carly’s changes anger some HP executives and managers? Yes. But here is a news flash: People who benefit from the status quo often fear change — even if it benefits or saves the larger organization.
But that’s what leaders do — they challenge the status quo. They ask questions. They look for opportunities. Leaders tear down irrelevant and unproductive walls and bureaucracies. Leaders actually accomplish something tangible. And Carly Fiorina is a true leader.
Before Carly arrived at HP, the company was stagnant and struggling. It had become bloated, complacent and slow to adapt to the market. In short, HP needed to reform and it wasn’t going to be easy. The HP board of directors knew they needed a change agent — someone who could retool HP and keep it relevant and competitive. And they found their new leader in Carly Fiorina.
Real change, the kind that was needed to reinvigorate HP, requires a comprehensive understanding of the market and the economic conditions. It requires steady and crisp implementation and execution. It calls for a leader with humility and exceptional communication skills — a person who is capable of rallying the corporate core and extended partner community to support that strategic vision. Carly was that leader.
We need a leader who can eliminate bureaucracy in our government, rein in federal spending, make the tough decisions, and get America back in the leadership business once again. As someone who has known and worked closely with Carly Fiorina for years, I can tell you that she is the leader that we need.
And a forewarning to the other candidates in the field: Underestimate Carly at your own peril.
Bill Mutell is a former senior vice president of Hewlett-Packard.
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Yes or no: Is Carly Fiorina presidential material?
No
Her HP history is a badge of shame, says Jeffrey Sonnenfeld
It is time political analysts take Carly Fiorina’s candidacy seriously.
With Fiorina rising in the national polls and now primed for the main stage of the CNN debate, it is important to examine her record carefully.
Never having held elective office or any role in public office, she anchors her claim on a reinvention of her actual record in the corporate world — as the failed CEO of Hewlett-Packard. The only time the stock jumped during her reign, from 2000 to 2005, was when she was fired by a frustrated board led by chair Pattie Dunn.
Fiorina was not a rogue CEO plundering shareholder wealth but still was a failed CEO, termed by many technology and business publications the worst technology CEO of all time. She sliced shareholder wealth in half in five years, with stock value falling 52 percent under her reign. During this period, the S&P 500 fell only 6 percent and many technology stocks, such as Dell, did well. Xerox was up 75 percent and Apple was up 200 percent — not to mention the launch of Google and Facebook during this time.
Fiorina confused political reporters by arguing that she doubled revenues and increased worldwide employment, as she volunteered recently on NBC’s Meet the Press. I, along with scores of corporate governance experts, have raised challenges about her prominently failed performance leading HP since long before she became a politically active public figure.
Business reporters from Fortune, Forbes, Bloomberg Business Week, The New York Times, San Jose Mercury News and Computer World saw through this smokescreen and have revealed that this revenue increase doubled only through a controversial, misguided merger with Compaq Computer, which increased top-line revenue but not bottom-line costs.
At this same time, profits at other S&P 500 firms were up 70 percent, but HP foundered through the dead weight of the obsolete devices Fiorina bought from Compaq. Most of the businesses she bought were shuttered, with the remaining ones divested by current HP CEO Meg Whitman. The jobs created were for outsourced, offshore work. In the end, she cut 30,000 U.S. jobs that never came back.
The colossal merger failure could have been avoided had she listened to her employees, industry analysts and her shareholders, who strongly fought the deal all the way to Delaware Chancery Court. With hardball tactics that would make Donald Trump wince, she rammed the deal through to the company’s and her peril.
The board at the time publicly and universally acknowledged the merger plan was a failure. Strangely, one board member who enthusiastically voted to fire Fiorina and one of her top lieutenants recently spoke in her defense, recanting their published, condemning statements at the time.
In fact, this heavy-metal merger of hardware was just the reverse of Fiorina’s announced strategy at the time — which was to copy IBM’s move into software services. That led her to try to buy PriceWaterhouseCooper’s consulting business for $14 billion. She failed to close that deal and PriceWaterhouseCoopers consulting was bought, ironically, by Ginni Rometty, IBM’s consulting chief — now its CEO — for less than a third of what Fiorina offered.
I believe in redemption, but that must be earned by actions through contrition or exoneration — not by shouting your greatness into the wind. Sure, she is a smart, hardworking knowledgeable CEO who deserves another chance, but commander in chief of the free world is not the next step.
Her defenders must acknowledge that it is interesting that in the decade after she was fired, she’s never been offered a job to lead a major public company again. Under HP’s talented current leadership, the firm has been rebounding, but not the record of Fiorina. When she stepped down as a well-paid board director of Taiwan Semiconductor, it reported she attended only 17 percent of the board meetings.
While not committed to any candidate, I am close to many Republican officials and impressed with the leadership accomplishment as well as the character of several current primary candidates. She is not one of them.
Jeffrey Sonnenfeld is senior associate dean and Lester Crown professor of management practice at Yale School of Management.
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Even though she got hit pretty hard with the ugly stick, I'd still hit. Anal.
not that bad looking actually..just needs to smile more
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Would totally hit, no condom- RDC
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What a difference a debate makes: Carly Fiorina surges into second
By Philip Bump
Early polls move around a lot. Debates can make a big difference, especially in a primary. Witness a new CNN/ORC poll that shows Carly Fiorina leaping into second place after her strong performance in last week's debate.
In four CNN/ORC polls since shortly before the first debate in early August, there's been a staggering amount of movement. Before August 6, the field was ranked Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, 1-2-3. Now? Trump, Fiorina, Ben Carson. Walker received too little support in the new poll to even round up to 1 percent. Stunning.
The surges from Fiorina and Marco Rubio are obvious there. She saw a bit of a jump after her performance in the first debate, but that was the mini-debate, the kiddie table affair. Once she got into the major leagues -- and cleaned up -- her numbers really spiked.
It's hard not to notice the big dips from Trump and Carson, too. The margin of error here is pretty healthy, but it seems clear that a lot of support transferred from the top two to the two with the best debate performances.
Fiorina's jump happened across the board. She saw improvement with women, as you might expect -- but also men. She saw big gains with self-identified Tea Party supporters, following the pattern this cycle of constituencies offering their support along the same lines as voters on the whole.
Since July, there have been big shifts in the net favorability of Republican candidates -- those who view them favorably minus those who don't. Trump's seen a slight increase in how people view him; Bush and Walker have seen big declines. Carson's seen a huge increase -- and Fiorina wasn't even worth asking about back then. (But it wouldn't likely have mattered. Few voters would probably have had an opinion of her.)
Notice that Rubio's favorability has been and remains high. That's a very good sign for the senator from Florida, who may be poised to step into the role of establishment favorite. He's popular, and unlike the rest of the top four candidates, has actually held elected office.
But who knows. After the next debate, everything could change. After all, early polls don't mean much, right?
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repubs always do this. They spike whoever FOX says did well. Perry, Cain, Newt, Santorum, they all did awesome shortly last time. Hopefully that's the case now.
MSNBC is pushing RUBIO hard now. They've abandoned grahama then kasich.
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repubs always do this. They spike whoever FOX says did well. Perry, Cain, Newt, Santorum, they all did awesome shortly last time. Hopefully that's the case now.
MSNBC is pushing RUBIO hard now. They've abandoned grahama then kasich.
Good ol' uncle Herman....whatever became of him?
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Good ol' uncle Herman....whatever became of him?
Well, after being "falsely accused" by 14 or 15 women, and failing to take the lie detector test he claimed he would take...
well, there emerged an 11 year record of sexy text and bribes to a lesbian mistress, as well as his campaign admitting it.
He gave a vague excuse for why he said "I have never done anyting inappropriate in 43 years of marriage".
Sure, a few folks still believe him. But most have just moved on. answering he'll solve Libya crisis with "9-9-9" should have told most people he wasn't a serious candidate. Just like Trump answering every question with "greatness" is sure a good sign the democrat isn't a serious option. Oh well.
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There is no better way to ruin foreign middle eastern relations further than having a woman as president....with that being said she's much smarter than Hilary clinton
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Oh, please. Like we're not all suckers for a gooey metaphor.
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Well, after being "falsely accused" by 14 or 15 women, and failing to take the lie detector test he claimed he would take...
well, there emerged an 11 year record of sexy text and bribes to a lesbian mistress, as well as his campaign admitting it.
He gave a vague excuse for why he said "I have never done anyting inappropriate in 43 years of marriage".
Sure, a few folks still believe him. But most have just moved on. answering he'll solve Libya crisis with "9-9-9" should have told most people he wasn't a serious candidate. Just like Trump answering every question with "greatness" is sure a good sign the democrat isn't a serious option. Oh well.
One thing I can say about trump...no woman has ever come out and said he had an affair with her...of course not counting Marla Maples who Trump ACTUALLY took with him on a vacation while taking his wife and kids on the same vacation....Miss Maples was supposedly in another cabin at the same resort...
wonder why none of the candidates haven't brought this up when Trump takes out his Bible?
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One thing I can say about trump...no woman has ever come out and said he had an affair with her...of course not counting Marla Maples who Trump ACTUALLY took with him on a vacation while taking his wife and kids on the same vacation....Miss Maples was supposedly in another cabin at the same resort...
wonder why none of the candidates haven't brought this up when Trump takes out his Bible?
I think trump has a low sex drive, or very small penis. Maybe both.
He doesn't drink - at all. People that hook up a lot, drink a lot.
He brags 24/7 - constantly. People that brag are insecure.
He never has affairs or pissed off wives - they are more eye candy than anything else.
My guess is that he just sports a 4 inch peepee and has thus avoided clubs, random hookups, banging secretaries, etc. Probably not a huge sex drive - he's a little frumpy, a little odd. He gets his rush of power and reassurance from making deals, firing people, and proclaiming his own props.
I think the reason we have a lack of affairs in the 2016 race is that they're a bunch of wimps. Rudy, Newt, Hermann cain... 2012 was a rowdy horny bunch.
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I think trump has a low sex drive, or very small penis. Maybe both.
He doesn't drink - at all. People that hook up a lot, drink a lot.
He brags 24/7 - constantly. People that brag are insecure.
He never has affairs or pissed off wives - they are more eye candy than anything else.
My guess is that he just sports a 4 inch peepee and has thus avoided clubs, random hookups, banging secretaries, etc. Probably not a huge sex drive - he's a little frumpy, a little odd. He gets his rush of power and reassurance from making deals, firing people, and proclaiming his own props.
I think the reason we have a lack of affairs in the 2016 race is that they're a bunch of wimps. Rudy, Newt, Hermann cain... 2012 was a rowdy horny bunch.
hahahah..very good points...I like your point about him not being a drinker and thats why he doesn't bang random chicks..good point...you would think someone of his ego would be banging secretaries. etc...Marla Maples did declare that being with Trump was the "Best sex I ever had".....
As for him looking frumpy, I noticed that as well..he really needs to start working out and fitting a daily exercise session into his routine....he's gonna tire easily as this continues....
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I think trump has a low sex drive, or very small penis. Maybe both.
He doesn't drink - at all. People that hook up a lot, drink a lot.
He brags 24/7 - constantly. People that brag are insecure.
He never has affairs or pissed off wives - they are more eye candy than anything else.
My guess is that he just sports a 4 inch peepee and has thus avoided clubs, random hookups, banging secretaries, etc. Probably not a huge sex drive - he's a little frumpy, a little odd. He gets his rush of power and reassurance from making deals, firing people, and proclaiming his own props.
I think the reason we have a lack of affairs in the 2016 race is that they're a bunch of wimps. Rudy, Newt, Hermann cain... 2012 was a rowdy horny bunch.
Truth be told, he is rumored to be in the Huey Lewis category as pertains to cock size.
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hahahah..very good points...I like your point about him not being a drinker and thats why he doesn't bang random chicks..good point...you would think someone of his ego would be banging secretaries. etc...Marla Maples did declare that being with Trump was the "Best sex I ever had".....
As for him looking frumpy, I noticed that as well..he really needs to start working out and fitting a daily exercise session into his routine....he's gonna tire easily as this continues....
Every one of trump's women is replaced. Everyone has nice things to say.
IMO, it's a script, like everything else in his life. "You get $5 mil per year, forever, if you say nothing but these 5 phrases in the media about Donald". And no matter what betrayal they feel, they roll with it.
As far as cawk size, who knows. But he's overcompensating for something...
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Every one of trump's women is replaced. Everyone has nice things to say.
IMO, it's a script, like everything else in his life. "You get $5 mil per year, forever, if you say nothing but these 5 phrases in the media about Donald". And no matter what betrayal they feel, they roll with it.
As far as cawk size, who knows. But he's overcompensating for something...
Maybe he was fucked in the ass by an older cousin while a child...gotta now prove he's the biggest baddest most masculine guy in the (debate)room
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Maybe he was fucked in the ass by an older cousin while a child
Well, he is running as a republican
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Well, after being "falsely accused" by 14 or 15 women, and failing to take the lie detector test he claimed he would take...
well, there emerged an 11 year record of sexy text and bribes to a lesbian mistress, as well as his campaign admitting it.
He gave a vague excuse for why he said "I have never done anyting inappropriate in 43 years of marriage".
Sure, a few folks still believe him. But most have just moved on. answering he'll solve Libya crisis with "9-9-9" should have told most people he wasn't a serious candidate. Just like Trump answering every question with "greatness" is sure a good sign the democrat isn't a serious option. Oh well.
HAHAHA people on here were denying this and trying to spin it as something that the media made up.... poor suckers!
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HAHAHA people on here were denying this and trying to spin it as something that the media made up.... poor suckers!
Remember that?
Hey, the minute he smirked and agreed to a polygraph, I knew instantly he was a liar. Most rational people knew you don't get accused by a dozen people without their being a little merit to it.
I guess some of them still consider Bill Cosby to be innocent, after all, no conviction, right?
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HAHAHA people on here were denying this and trying to spin it as something that the media made up.... poor suckers!
The Republicans tend to do that to people.....they stir up stuff and make it into World /War III.....then later on they meekly forget about it when they are proven to be wrong....
HEY...remember when millions were going to die in the U.S. because Obama wasn't handling the Ebola crisis properly and wouldn't stop flights from Africa? :D :D :D
Whatever happened to that??? :D :D :D
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Fiorina’s record at HP defines her candidacy — which could be a problem
By Drew Harwell and Danielle Paquette
At a polished New York press announcement in 2001, Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina, then the most powerful woman in American business, unveiled an immensely risky mega-merger whose success she promised with her signature showmanship: “If you don’t believe it, watch.”
But 3 1/2 years later, after HP had shed half its market value and slashed more than 30,000 jobs amid what rivals called “the dumbest deal of the decade,” Fiorina was quietly fired from her first and still only job as a CEO. She succumbed to a brutal battle with the founders’ families, a worker uprising and, ultimately, what she called a “boardroom brawl.”
“In the end, the board did not have the courage to face me,” Fiorina wrote in her 2006 memoir, “Tough Choices.” “They did not thank me and they did not say goodbye.”
Now a rising star in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, Fiorina, 61, has pointed to her leadership of the printer and computer giant to showcase her corporate savvy and courage under fire. She has blamed the dot-com bust, sexism and an ineffective board of directors for helping sink what was then a global juggernaut.
But in interviews with more than two dozen former HP senior directors and employees, many remember Fiorina’s legacy as troubling and divisive: A high-energy marketer, she nevertheless failed to deliver on lofty promises, alienated her workforce and presided over a disastrous reign at what was once a Silicon Valley pioneer.
Supporters defend Fiorina as a strong-willed bomb thrower tapped to give a staid company a wake-up call, and they say her talents helped enliven the khaki-clad workforce of innovators and engineers. They also credit her with carving out and sticking to a forceful course of action during one of the harshest periods for the tech industry’s old guard.
“Carly was invigorating. She was exciting. She was a leader in every sense of the word,” said Steve Huhn, a former HP vice president of global sales who supports her candidacy. “There was a dynamic sense that we could do something great.”
But critics say her focus on rapid, radical internal changes clashed with the communal corporate values long known as “the HP Way.” And when the company began to crumble, they say, her command-and-control tactics drove away ambitious minds and blocked measures that could have helped turn HP around.
“She decided she was going to impose a more demanding culture, and it became political, in the sense that you were either a supporter of the direction Carly wanted to go, or you became fearful that you could become a target,” said Roy Verley, a 21-year HP employee and longtime chief corporate spokesman who left in 2000 because of what he calls the “Carly purge.”
“The difference was night and day,” Verley said, “between a company that encouraged people to have ideas . . . to more of a top-down, controlling environment in which ideas could lead to your exit.”
Fiorina declined to comment for this article. Her campaign has defended her record by saying the company doubled its revenue and “grew jobs” under her tenure — but that’s because it purchased a large rival.
Other metrics of HP’s performance paint a more revealing portrait of the company’s downfall. Under Fiorina, company shares collapsed more than 50 percent, far worse than those of competitors such as IBM and Dell and the tech-heavy Nasdaq composite index. The year she left, HP profits were $1 billion less than when she started, even though the company was twice the size.
Because it was her only time leading a company, Fiorina’s 5 1/2 years at HP offers an unmatched view of how she could handle challenges as commander in chief. It could also present her most unavoidable obstacle as she embarks on her national campaign. Already, rivals such as Donald Trump have seized on the HP “catastrophe,” marked by years of bitter layoffs during which workers began labeling her “Chainsaw Carly.”
While stumping this past week at packed campaign events, Fiorina has sought to reframe her role in the successful-if-thankless saving of a company from near-certain annihilation. But former employees are speaking out for fear that Fiorina will rewrite the distressing history of a company many came to love.
As Brad Whitworth, an 18-year HP veteran and former senior communications and marketing manager, put it, “Carly has never let facts get in the way of her being able to tell a story.”
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Fiorina’s extraordinary rise in business got off to a slow start. The law-school-dropout daughter of a law school dean and prominent federal judge, Fiorina had worked as a secretary at a real estate firm before quitting within a year to move with her first husband to Italy, where she taught English and studied for entrance exams to business schools.
At 25, after earning an MBA from the University of Maryland, she joined AT&T as a sales representative, refusing to sign on for the telephone company’s savings plan because she believed that she’d be gone within two years.
Fifteen years later, Fiorina had become one of the company’s most visible rock stars, spearheading the $3 billion spinoff of Lucent Technologies, then the biggest stock-market debut in U.S. history. The hyper-growth firm would crumple after her departure, but not before bolstering Fiorina’s reputation as an aggressive dealmaker with a golden touch. In 1998, Fortune trumpeted her tireless work ethic and sales tactics, and crowned her, at 44, “the most powerful woman in American business.”
Her prestige appeared at a critical time for HP. Founded in 1939 in a garage in Palo Alto, Calif., the grandfather of Silicon Valley had over the decades become revered as much for its inventive legacy as its laid-back corporate way of life. Years before Google bought its first beanbag chair, HP was inviting workers to drink Friday afternoon beers at the office, play in its after-hours orchestra or chat with executives who practiced a breezy leadership style called “management by wandering around.”
But as smaller start-ups seized on the Web, HP’s hardware-heavy business model fell behind, seemingly lured into complacency by the easy ink-fueled profits of selling printers but innovating less and less by the year. The company had sailed below investor expectations for nine quarters in a row during the country’s biggest-ever tech boom. In Fiorina, the board saw an outsider who could shake the lumbering giant awake.
It was an extraordinary leap of faith. Fiorina had never worked at a computer company and had no experience as a CEO. But directors said they believed that Fiorina would flourish by way of her charisma, brand-building prowess and iron will. Later, even Fiorina would tell a Stanford University commencement crowd that she “was an unexpected choice.”
In July 1999, Fiorina was tapped to lead a company with $40 billion in revenue and sights on becoming the biggest computer maker in the world. The board gave her a $3 million signing bonus and stock worth $65 million, and agreed to pay to ship her 52-foot yacht from the East Coast to the waters near San Francisco Bay.
In her first months, Fiorina was celebrated as a dynamic turnaround artist with virtually unlimited drive. In an introductory profile called “Keeping Up with Carly” in HP’s internal company magazine, a former assistant said Fiorina often took calls while running on the treadmill and described her presence as being like “a shot of B-12 vitamins.”
Fiorina seemed to relish the limelight, penning a management column two months after her hire for the New York Times (“Seek tough challenges: They’re more fun”). The business media was captivated by her pluck and power in a male-dominated industry: In a 1999 BusinessWeek profile, she said she swore by Giorgio Armani suits and liked waking up at 4 a.m. to work out and feed wild birds. (“It’s good thinking time.”)
But for all the story lines, Fiorina seemed to reject the most obvious one: Her achievement as the first woman to run a Fortune 20 firm. At a news conference announcing her hire, she said she hoped that “everyone has figured out that there is not a glass ceiling.” (She would later apologize, calling it a “dumb thing to say.”)
Fiorina moved quickly, rolling out a $200 million global brand campaign that included building a traveling replica of the founders’ garage for exhibit on Wall Street and in France and China. Fiorina, too, went on tour, posing for TV ads and introducing herself on HP stages in 10 countries. “Leadership is a performance,” she told Forbes in 1999.
Her flamboyance stood out at humble HP. Employees grumbled when her portrait was speedily hung in the lobby beside those of founders William Hewlett and David Packard, and some whispered that the flashy promotions seemed to have little to do with the company’s workhorse home-office product lines. As business author Jim Collins wrote then in the Wall Street Journal, “Whose brand was she building anyway?”
Supporters say her early campaigns were aimed at a colossal task: Make nimble a sprawling workforce, reinvent a moribund brand and confront six decades of corporate habits, some of which had gotten HP in trouble in the first place.
And she could be charming: One day when Gilles Bouchard, then HP’s chief information officer, was walking the halls with his son Yohan, who had a mild disability, Fiorina paused her preparation for a hectic analyst call to invite them both in for a tour of her office. “She knew my son by name,” said Bouchard, now chief executive of Livescribe. “A lot of CEOs couldn’t care less about this stuff.”
But some employees remember Fiorina as far more detached with her rank and file. Where her predecessors were known for small-talking with workers over french fries at the HP cafeteria, Fiorina struck some as standoffish, holed up in her office and seemingly disinterested with the engineering and employees behind the sale.
In speeches to clients, some workers said that they began to notice her embellishing HP’s future products, strategy and even history. She bulked up one old company chestnut — that Walt Disney Studios had bought HP’s first product, an audio oscillator — by falsely saying that Disney himself had invited the founders to his studio and asked for a special design.
“It took away credibility. She was a fabulous presenter, but that’s all she was about,” said Karen Lewis, HP’s former corporate archivist. “It’s like prima facie — just the face you see. Behind it, she didn’t know much about the business.”
Beyond marketing, Fiorina struggled early in dealing with the bursting of the tech bubble, even as she pledged sharp improvements to the company’s bottom line. HP’s stock plummeted amid reports of slumping sales, and many investors started to question whether Fiorina was the right leader to turn things around.
As HP faltered, Fiorina masterminded the deal that would define her career: HP’s payment of $25 billion in stock to acquire computer giant Compaq, then the biggest merger in American tech. The timing did HP no favors — Fiorina’s New York unveiling came during the dot-com downturn and the week before the Sept. 11 attacks — but Fiorina would later say she had little choice. “Neither the market nor the organization,” she would tell Fortune, “understood the difficulty HP was truly in.”
Both companies had been gutted by the increasing commoditization of computers, whose cheaper production and growing ubiquity had decimated profits. But Fiorina said she believed the “decisive” joining of forces would bulk up HP’s foundering computer division, save billions in redundancies and give it the size to win over clients from rivals such as Dell and IBM.
Analysts, investors and many HP employees slammed the deal as a desperate pairing of two weaklings in hopes of producing a superfirm. Neither HP nor Fiorina had ever engineered a massive takeover, further rattling confidence in what Sun Microsystems co-founder Scott McNealy called “a slow-motion collision of two garbage trucks.”
The merger led to one of the nastiest shareholder fights in corporate history. Fiorina clashed with members of the HP founders’ families, who toured the country hoping to dissuade investors from approving the deal and funded national newspaper ads calling it “a $25 billion mistake.”
The stakes couldn’t have been higher for Fiorina, whose employment was on the line: Walter Hewlett, the founder’s son, said, “We don’t need someone training on the job, not this time.” But in 2002, after an eight-month free-for-all, the merger won in a cliffhanger, with about 51 percent of shareholders’ votes. The battle was over, but Fiorina’s war for HP had just begun.
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The merger demanded a vast melding of operations across 160 countries and thousands of product lines. Fiorina quickly consolidated power, folding 83 business units with their own budgets and staffs into six mega-divisions, centralized under her control.
The turf battles between Fiorina and deposed executives grew heated: In her memoir, she likened them to “a thousand tribes.” Her autocratic methods, critics say, grated on veterans of a consensus company known for not making big decisions without everyone onboard.
Fiorina had long since left behind the kid gloves of previous chiefs in favor of a take-no-prisoners approach. After a disappointing earnings report in 2003, as executives later told the Wall Street Journal, Fiorina lit into senior managers, saying, “You’ve let HP down, you’ve let the board down and you’ve let me down.”
“People did not confront issues” at HP, she wrote in her memoir. “Everyone was extremely pleasant . . . but no one seemed to have a competitive spirit or a sense that time mattered.”
Fiorina broke with tradition in another way, by kicking off HP’s first mass layoff: More than 30,000 jobs would be axed in about half a decade. Quiet seething at HP’s Palo Alto headquarters turned to outright revulsion. An internal message board became so overloaded with bile about Fiorina that the company shut it down.
Susan Bowick, the former global head of human resources, said she remembers Fiorina’s attempts to soften the blow: When an executive suggested immediately revoking computer and security access, Fiorina pushed for more time so they could clean out desks and hold farewell parties, saying that “we had trusted these employees for many years, and we were not going to flip a switch and treat them differently.”
Publicly, however, Fiorina did not seem to flinch. In a 1999 Forbes interview, she said, “If one-quarter of the people in HP don’t want to make the journey, or can’t take the pace, that’s the way it has to be.” Years later, after a bruising backlash, she doubled down, saying if she could do the layoffs differently, she “would have done them faster.”
She also became an enthusiastic booster of hiring overseas workers, a practice she called “right shoring.” In 2004, she told Congress, “There is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore.” Later, she would say she was unduly punished for taking necessary action: “When men cut jobs, they’re seen as decisive. When women do, they’re vindictive.”
As HP’s fortunes sank, Fiorina’s take-home pay soared. She averaged $3 million in salary and bonuses every year, not counting her tens of millions of dollars in stock options, company proxy statements show. Other high-level spending saw big boosts: HP replaced two aging planes with Gulfstream IV jets and leased a fifth plane — particularly beneficial for Fiorina, whose contract allowed her personal use of the company’s air fleet.
Fiorina also reprised her leading role as celebrity CEO. She walked the red carpet at the 2004 Academy Awards and, at HP keynotes and Las Vegas electronic shows, posed with stars such as Sheryl Crow, Dr. Dre, Alicia Keys and Matt Damon, who joked, “I think I’m married to Carly, I’ve thanked her so much today.”
In the post-merger years, HP routinely undershot investors’ projections and Fiorina’s promised targets. Its gamble on the dwindling profits of the computer business was looking more misguided by the year. Amid the crisis, Fiorina pushed out respected executives and persuaded others to jump to competitors, further angering the board.
Analysts suggested that the company hire a chief operating officer or give some of HP’s well-regarded executives more day-to-day control. But Fiorina refused, saying “the magnitude of challenges” facing HP meant “a CEO better have his or her hands on the wheel.”
Larry Sonsini, a Silicon Valley superlawyer and HP’s general counsel at the time, says Fiorina’s tight grip highlighted her commitment to the job. “She never delegated a problem,” he said. “At 2 a.m., she’d be in the war room, so to speak, redrafting press releases with us.”
But her fierce resistance to letting go, for fear of losing control, prevented others from potentially slowing HP’s nosedive. “She was strong on vision but crap on execution,” said Rob Enderle, a business analyst who has followed HP for nearly two decades. “The board really wanted her to have a strong number two, but she was worried she’d be replaced.”
In early 2005, as the company’s stock continued to stumble, HP’s board pushed for Fiorina’s ouster. One director, the late Patricia Dunn, blamed Fiorina’s resistance to heeding advice and said her organizational structure had left directors “hopelessly confounded.”
That February, the directors voted unanimously to call for Fiorina’s resignation, but in her memoir she said she pushed to call it what it was: She was fired. Like many top executives, she drifted to earth with a golden parachute, pocketing a cash severance of $21 million plus stock and pension benefits worth about $20 million. HP received a parting gift, as well: On the day of her firing, its stock surged upward 7 percent.
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Fiorina has blamed HP’s performance on a troubled board and the “worst technology recession in 25 years” and said she made the “tough choices” needed to revive a teetering bureaucracy and keep the company alive.
But analysts say HP under Fiorina missed one of the industry’s biggest gold-mine moments: the dawn of the Internet age. In 2001, Google was slugging it out with larger search rival AltaVista, Mark Zuckerberg was in prep school and a declining Apple was staking its turnaround on an unproven new product, the iPod.
In her memoir, Fiorina swatted away what she calls the “recycled” criticisms that she was “too controlling” and a “publicity hound.” Like her supporters, she blames the blowback on a vocal camp within HP that was resistant to change. In an essay last month for CNN, Fiorina compared her forced exit to that of Steve Jobs, saying, “I was fired because I challenged the status quo.”
Fiorina has also sought to portray her time at HP as rescuing a troubled giant. When she announced her candidacy, she said she was “very proud” of making HP a “market leader.” At a campaign event Tuesday in South Carolina, Fiorina said she was hired “to save the company, and that’s what we did in a very difficult time.”
But HP is far from saved. Its stock price is a third what it was at its 2000 peak, and last year the company announced that it would spin off its computer and printer business, a final rebuke to Fiorina’s long-term goal of computer dominance. A day before Fiorina’s star turn at the second Republican debate, a stumbling HP announced that it would slash 10 percent of its 300,000 workers, one of the country’s single largest corporate layoffs.
That has not stopped Fiorina from making allies out of former enemies, including Tom Perkins, the venture-capital billionaire and former HP director who voted for her termination. In a New York Times ad last month paid for by the super PAC backing Fiorina’s campaign, he said her firing was not because she was unsuccessful but because she “had the strength of character and courage of conviction to stand up” to board cronyism.
That message is a far cry from what Perkins said in 2007 about Fiorina’s demise: “The employees were in the parking lot singing, ‘Ding, Dong, the Witch is Dead.’ And she still doesn’t understand that she bears some responsibility for that. It’s amazing.”
So why the change of heart? Perkins said he has been “delighted” at her debate performance and says she’d make a great president. His firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, has given $25,000 to the Carly for America super PAC.
Many former employees have not been so forgiving. Even now, a decade after her ouster, some in the founders’ families attest that Fiorina’s time at HP left a deep scar.
“She did a real disservice to a great company,” said Packard’s grandson, Jason Burnett. “It’s in large part because of her time at HP that it is no longer the same company my grandfather founded and ran successfully for decades.”
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The Republicans tend to do that to people.....they stir up stuff and make it into World /War III.....then later on they meekly forget about it when they are proven to be wrong....
HEY...remember when millions were going to die in the U.S. because Obama wasn't handling the Ebola crisis properly and wouldn't stop flights from Africa? :D :D :D
Whatever happened to that??? :D :D :D
HAHAHAHA.
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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/yale-prof-opens-can-of-whoop-ass-on-fiorina-she-has-an-almost-psychopathic-denial-of-reality/
Nobody can find the tape she says exists.
They have pieced together other videos with some of that to try to make her point, but FOX news even agrees - she lied on tv that night.
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Carly Fiorina is a liar-liar-pantsuit-on-fire LIAR. She’s been lying for more than a week about watching a fetus snuff flick that does not exist, as everyone in the known universe has pointed out to her, from the liberal(ish) splainers at Vox to the wingnut mouth-breathers at Fox, and all your moms in between. But is she like, “Oops, ya caught me, my campaign regrets the error that was made by me”? Heavens to Betsy, no! Instead, she’s getting as mad as her Botoxed persona will allow because the mean media has taken note of her lies and will not stop pointing out how she will not stop lying.
So now, instead of backing down because she has been smoking gun red-handed BUSTED, Fiorina has said the issue of whether this “Planned Parenthood” “video” is actually a video taken at Planned Parenthood is a mere “technicality.” No, seriously, that’s the horse crap she’s peddling now, to explain how she is not a liar just for repeatedly saying lies:
A "technicality"? Oh... I guess the other GOP candidates have worn out "misspoke" lately, so she needed a new excuse.
On Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” Chuck Todd offered her the opportunity to admit that she has never seen the video she says she saw because no such thing exists and asked if she is “willing now to concede that you exaggerated that scene?” But did she admit that she exaggerated, or claim that she had seen some sort of video but, even though a mere technicality, it was not in fact taken at Planned Parenthood? Heck no. She triple-downed on her double-down:
"No, not at all. That scene absolutely does exist, and that voice saying what I said they were saying, “We’re going to keep it alive to harvest its brain” exists as well."
HAHAHA the tape does not exist. Just like her chances of getting any nomination for 2016.
Carly has proven to be nothing more than a dumb bitch, for lying to push an extremist agenda, which would harm millions of women, and continuing to push that lie even when it has been proven to be a lie. And then having the audacity to blame anyone but herself for being caught in her lies. Obviously, being a liar isn't the only mandatory requirement for GOP membership. You also have to commit to continuing the War On Women no matter what your gender is.
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She's pulling a Bachmann now - tripling down on stupid/lie/ignorance/mistake because she doesn't want to hear "told ya so".
Will ANY repub on getbig defend her obvious lie? Very rare that Chhuck Toad and Chris Wallace of FOX totally AGREE a person is lying badly, and that's exactly what we have here.
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But Bachmann is supposed to be a brilliant person. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Carly Fiorina is a liar-liar-pantsuit-on-fire LIAR. She’s been lying for more than a week about watching a fetus snuff flick that does not exist, as everyone in the known universe has pointed out to her, from the liberal(ish) splainers at Vox to the wingnut mouth-breathers at Fox, and all your moms in between. But is she like, “Oops, ya caught me, my campaign regrets the error that was made by me”? Heavens to Betsy, no! Instead, she’s getting as mad as her Botoxed persona will allow because the mean media has taken note of her lies and will not stop pointing out how she will not stop lying.
So now, instead of backing down because she has been smoking gun red-handed BUSTED, Fiorina has said the issue of whether this “Planned Parenthood” “video” is actually a video taken at Planned Parenthood is a mere “technicality.” No, seriously, that’s the horse crap she’s peddling now, to explain how she is not a liar just for repeatedly saying lies:
A "technicality"? Oh... I guess the other GOP candidates have worn out "misspoke" lately, so she needed a new excuse.
On Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” Chuck Todd offered her the opportunity to admit that she has never seen the video she says she saw because no such thing exists and asked if she is “willing now to concede that you exaggerated that scene?” But did she admit that she exaggerated, or claim that she had seen some sort of video but, even though a mere technicality, it was not in fact taken at Planned Parenthood? Heck no. She triple-downed on her double-down:
"No, not at all. That scene absolutely does exist, and that voice saying what I said they were saying, “We’re going to keep it alive to harvest its brain” exists as well."
HAHAHA the tape does not exist. Just like her chances of getting any nomination for 2016.
Carly has proven to be nothing more than a dumb bitch, for lying to push an extremist agenda, which would harm millions of women, and continuing to push that lie even when it has been proven to be a lie. And then having the audacity to blame anyone but herself for being caught in her lies. Obviously, being a liar isn't the only mandatory requirement for GOP membership. You also have to commit to continuing the War On Women no matter what your gender is.
Link to the above comments, just to clarify that it wasn't some original rambling from Lurker. http://wonkette.com/594259/lying-liar-carly-fiorina-not-happy-everyone-noticed-shes-a-lying-liar
He appears to be a graduate of the blacken/Biden School of Plagiarism.
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But Bachmann is supposed to be a brilliant person. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
yes...who wanted to cut Medicaid and Medicare drastically yet was making millions off of it in her private business...LOLOLOLOL...
These Rpublicans....they are sooooo adorable :)
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Link to the above comments, just to clarify that it wasn't some original rambling from Lurker. http://wonkette.com/594259/lying-liar-carly-fiorina-not-happy-everyone-noticed-shes-a-lying-liar
He appears to be a graduate of the blacken/Biden School of Plagiarism.
I never said it was my own words. ::)
No response to the message, so you just instead have to worry yourself over the messenger.
You appear to be a graduate of the Republican School of Butt Hurt Whining.
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I never said it was my own words. ::)
No response to the message, so you just instead have to worry yourself over the messenger.
You appear to be a graduate of the Republican School of Butt Hurt Whining.
Integrity matters. Except to people who plagiarize. Shame on you.
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Integrity matters. Except to people who plagiarize. Shame on you.
It most certainly doesn't. Especially for hypocrites who support idiots (Bachmann), quitters (Palin) and cheaters (Cain). Like you.
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It most certainly doesn't. Especially for hypocrites who support idiots (Bachmann), quitters (Palin) and cheaters (Cain). Like you.
OUCH!
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It most certainly doesn't. Especially for hypocrites who support idiots (Bachmann), quitters (Palin) and cheaters (Cain). Like you.
Well we know you plagiarized, and have repeatedly posted false quotes attributed to people, so you obviously have trouble understanding how important integrity is. It really does matters.
Except for dishonest hacks. Like you.
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Well we know you plagiarized, and have repeatedly posted false quotes attributed to people, so you obviously have trouble understanding how important integrity is. It really does matters.
Except for dishonest hacks. Like you.
Well we all know you openly support and defend liars, quitters, cheaters, and midgets who plagiarize, post false quotes, wish death on their countrymen, etc.. etc.. etc... Someone obviously has trouble understanding how important integrity is. It really does matter.
Except for hypocrites. Like you.
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Well we all know you openly support and defend liars, quitters, cheaters, and midgets who plagiarize, post false quotes, wish death on their countrymen, etc.. etc.. etc... Someone obviously has trouble understanding how important integrity is. It really does matter.
Except for hypocrites. Like you.
I guess I could continue the "I know you are, but what am I," dialogue, but I'm not. :)
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:)
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It most certainly doesn't. Especially for hypocrites who support idiots (Bachmann), quitters (Palin) and cheaters (Cain). Like you.
excellent points.
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:)
Who me? Nah. :)
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Carly Fiorina’s Shameless Promotion
by Frank Bruni
Carly Fiorina gives one heck of a speech.
That was my first impression, a positive one, when I caught up with her in Sacramento in 2010 to chronicle her bid for the Senate.
She had focus, urgency and a brimming arsenal of barbs, just as she does now. She liked to mention an incident in which Senator Barbara Boxer, the incumbent Democrat, once upbraided an Army bigwig for calling her “Ma’am” rather than “Senator,” and she told Californians that if they gave her Boxer’s job: “You may call me ‘Ma’am.’ You may call me ‘Senator.’ You may call me ‘Carly.’ You may call me, ‘Hey, you, remember, you work for me.’ ”
She presented herself as a woman of the people, at our service.
But that wasn’t my impression of her after about a week of attending her campaign events, riding around California with her and interviewing her about her drive and her desires.
Even more so than is usually the case, the candidacy seemed to be all about the candidate. She yearned to silence forever all of the naysaying about her stewardship of Hewlett-Packard, to be validated by voters, to have the final say.
She failed, and she failed big, losing to Boxer by 10 points.
Her response? To seek a promotion. She’s running for president.
Give her credit for dauntlessness.
But look closely and you see its ugly sibling, shamelessness, not just in the way she treats facts but in the way she treats others.
The Washington Post just published a humiliating account of her sluggishness to pay bills from that 2010 campaign. That she stiffed several vendors until January 2015 wasn’t really the damning part: That’s sadly common in politics.
But The Post reported that one of the people stiffed was the widow of the pollster Joe Shumate, who dropped dead of a heart attack, “surrounded by sheets of polling data” for Fiorina, shortly before Election Day in 2010. Fiorina mourned him as “the heart and soul” of her operation, then neglected for years to fork over at least $30,000 that she owed him.
Martin Wilson, who managed that campaign, told The Post that he occasionally implored her to settle up. “She just wouldn’t,” he said.
It’s striking that he’d tattle like that on Fiorina. She apparently doesn’t leave much love in her wake. Reuters interviewed about 30 people who worked for her in 2010, 12 of whom said: Never again. “I’d rather go to Iraq,” one unidentified campaign aide groused.
And The Daily Beast examined Fiorina’s recent campaign-finance filings and noticed that almost no one at Hewlett-Packard had given more than $200 — the minimum amount for which a donor must be identified — to her presidential quest.
She has her loyalists, including some glass-half-full revisionists. Consider this from the Post story: “Her supporters cautioned that little could be gleaned from her California campaign. They maintain that Fiorina’s corporate experience is more akin to managing a presidential campaign than a bid for office in one of the nation’s most liberal states.”
In other words, the Boxer contest was small potatoes — peculiar ones, too — and a leader of Fiorina’s vision and scope is suited only to a giant spud.
For someone so caustic about others’ shortcomings, she’s awfully cavalier about her own.
“It was a mistake,” she said to me in 2010 about her failure to vote in elections in New Jersey, where she’d once lived for 10 years, and in more than half of the 18 elections in California in which she could have participated.
Then she qualified that confession, explaining that she hadn’t been “running my life to seek political office,” as if such a goal were the only reason to show up at the polls.
In the cause of others, she’s not so quick, exuberant or deft. She campaigned as a surrogate for John McCain in the 2008 presidential election but had to be sidelined after saying that neither McCain nor Sarah Palin, his running mate, could run a big corporation. It was a fascinating lapse, in that she was denying them the chops to do precisely what she had done (albeit poorly, by many measures).
In her calculus, the corporate world qualified her for governing, but government experience didn’t qualify others for the corporate world. What self-flattering, self-serving arithmetic.
It has been correctly observed that her ascent in the polls, coupled with Donald Trump’s enduringly strong showing, reflects the currency of political outsiders right now.
But it also reflects the potency of an insatiable hunger for approbation and an unshakable belief in your genius. She and Trump share that, and of course she gives one heck of a speech. She thrills to her own voice.
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Carly Fiorina’s disgust is written all over her face
By Dan Hill
Though key issues may vary, a candidate’s signature facial expressions rarely do. In Carly Fiorina’s case, she dominates the field of 2016 Republican presidential contenders in one particular look: It signals disgust. With a lower-lip depressor movement, her lower lip pulls down and out, causing the lip to stretch wider and the chin to momentarily flatten.
This movement is one of the five principal ways to express disgust. The emotion is more commonly signaled by the upper lip curling or the nose wrinkling, in keeping with its actual meaning. Disgust is about rejection, about viscerally protecting oneself from what you perceive as “poisonous.” Fiorina uses it to reject the status quo.
Fiorina curled her upper lip during last week’s debate on CNBC, for example, as she discussed the need to “cut the bureaucracy” at Hewlett-Packard when she was its chief executive. The expression was evident in the first debate as well, when she analyzed President Barack Obama’s “false choices” in negotiating with Iran. She also wrinkled her nose. One strikingly on-message but off-emotion moment occurred during the CNBC debate: Fiorina’s words were positive about small businesses, yet her nose wrinkled as she said them.
The lower-lip depressor, however, is Fiorina’s signature expression of disgust — one often associated with bitterness. The bitter look came courtesy of a host of topics in the third Republican debate. It finished the rhetorical question of “Who’s going to get [tax reform] done?” and accompanied her comments about needing to hold chief executives criminally liable for malfeasance. It was most apparent as she stated that her GOP opponents all have “good plans.”
Displaying happiness isn’t Fiorina’s forte. Reagan-esque optimism isn’t for her.
The CNBC moderators opened the debate by asking each candidate to name a personal weakness. Fiorina said she had been told that she “didn’t smile enough.” Actually, she does smile, occasionally. For example, she smiled broadly that night when assuring fellow Republicans she can “beat Hillary Clinton.”
Fiorina’s biggest smile, however, wasn’t really a smile. It was a grim, sarcastic grin that can often also signal disgust. She used it in fending off a question about being fired by Hewlett-Packard. She flashed it while talking about “disagreements in the board room” that led to her dismissal.
Smiles as genuine expressions of happiness or enjoyment offer warmth and a sense of openness. A real smile is the equivalent of an emotive embrace. But Fiorina’s smile brings only a hint of warmth.
Instead, Fiorina uses it to serve the cause of sarcasm about the status quo or withering scorn for other leaders. A mention of “crony capitalism,” for example, will likely bring forth this smile. In past debates, Fiorina used it when talking about Obama’s or Donald Trump’s leadership abilities. Or when Fiorina declared that the entire existing “political class has failed” the citizens of America.
In addition to disgust, Fiorina is characterized by another visceral, tough emotion — anger. The skin below her eyes tightens at times when she speaks. But it’s tense lips — evident during her fierce denunciation of Planned Parenthood or her sharp response to Trump’s patronizing comments regarding her looks — that signal Fiorina’s anger most often.
Taken together, her lower lip pressing downward (the left side in particular), along with the anger and cold smiles, summarizes Fiorina emotionally. She’s promising not to “sugarcoat” things like other career politicians do — and it doesn’t look like she will.
Women candidates often face the lurking — and sometimes expressed — question of whether they are “too soft” to be commander-in-chief. But that might not be a problem for Fiorina.
Want something done in Washington? No doubt, Fiorina has the tenacity, the fortitude, you could even say the vehemence to attempt it. That truth is written all over her face.
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Looking at that Remax Sign #3 hair style option she chose, I can't believe she had the nerve to try to diss another ladies hair.
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Looking at that Remax Sign #3 hair style option she chose, I can't believe she had the nerve to try to diss another ladies hair.
she got mad at trump mocking her appearance.
yet she mocked the appearance of another person's hair.
LOL @ how any getbiggers were all about carly 2 weeks ago.
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She is turning out to be a liar and a hypocrite. Why am I am not surprised?
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Libs called her a phony liar.
So repubs cannot agree.
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Carly Fiorina Is Not Even Good at Gratuitous Insults
By Andrew Rosenthal
Some political candidates are great at throwing around snappy one-liners. Donald Trump has an incredible facility with sound bites. They rarely have a passing connection to reality, and often don’t even make sense, but they land well with his audiences. He knows he can just yell, “Let’s build a wall!” and his crowds will go crazy.
Then there are candidates who are incredibly bad at this dark art, like Carly Fiorina.
Mrs. Fiorina was on the debate stage on Thursday night, taking her well-deserved position at the Republican children’s table. Lacking anything of substance to say, she decided to insult Hillary Clinton’s marriage. “Unlike another woman in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband,” she said.
Dragging the Clintons’ relationship onto the public stage (as Mr. Trump also has done) does not even rise to the level of schoolyard taunts and, of course, Mrs. Fiorina does not have the slightest clue how Mrs. Clinton feels about being with her husband. But little things like the truth have never bothered the former printer company executive, who earlier in the campaign lied about Planned Parenthood and then repeated the lie day after day.
After her debate comments, Mrs. Fiorina followed up on CNN with a fusillade of canned insults. “Hillary Clinton has spent her entire life on a quest for power,” said Mrs. Fiorina, who rose from a management trainee position to high-profile jobs at AT&T, then Lucent, then Hewlett Packard without any desire for power.
Mrs. Clinton, said Mrs. Fiorina, “has avoided prosecution more times than El Chapo.”
Mrs. Clinton has never faced prosecution, but the undaunted Mrs. Fiorina leered into the camera and added: “Once again, she wants to be in the White House. The truth is she is more qualified for ‘the Big House.’”
Get it? White House? Big House?
Observing Mrs. Fiorina’s campaign is like watching one of those comedies in which the sad, geeky character desperate to get in with the cool kids says things that make you cringe. The big difference is that Mrs. Fiorina lacks the evident core of vulnerability, and sincerity, that makes you like the geeky character. There is nothing sweet about Mrs. Fiorina. She’s just sad.
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Carly Fiorina Is Not Even Good at Gratuitous Insults
By Andrew Rosenthal
Some political candidates are great at throwing around snappy one-liners. Donald Trump has an incredible facility with sound bites. They rarely have a passing connection to reality, and often don’t even make sense, but they land well with his audiences. He knows he can just yell, “Let’s build a wall!” and his crowds will go crazy.
Then there are candidates who are incredibly bad at this dark art, like Carly Fiorina.
Mrs. Fiorina was on the debate stage on Thursday night, taking her well-deserved position at the Republican children’s table. Lacking anything of substance to say, she decided to insult Hillary Clinton’s marriage. “Unlike another woman in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband,” she said.
Dragging the Clintons’ relationship onto the public stage (as Mr. Trump also has done) does not even rise to the level of schoolyard taunts and, of course, Mrs. Fiorina does not have the slightest clue how Mrs. Clinton feels about being with her husband. But little things like the truth have never bothered the former printer company executive, who earlier in the campaign lied about Planned Parenthood and then repeated the lie day after day.
After her debate comments, Mrs. Fiorina followed up on CNN with a fusillade of canned insults. “Hillary Clinton has spent her entire life on a quest for power,” said Mrs. Fiorina, who rose from a management trainee position to high-profile jobs at AT&T, then Lucent, then Hewlett Packard without any desire for power.
Mrs. Clinton, said Mrs. Fiorina, “has avoided prosecution more times than El Chapo.”
Mrs. Clinton has never faced prosecution, but the undaunted Mrs. Fiorina leered into the camera and added: “Once again, she wants to be in the White House. The truth is she is more qualified for ‘the Big House.’”
Get it? White House? Big House?
Observing Mrs. Fiorina’s campaign is like watching one of those comedies in which the sad, geeky character desperate to get in with the cool kids says things that make you cringe. The big difference is that Mrs. Fiorina lacks the evident core of vulnerability, and sincerity, that makes you like the geeky character. There is nothing sweet about Mrs. Fiorina. She’s just sad.
"Who would vote for that face"
-The Donald
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“Unlike another woman in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband,”
I assume she means her current husband because she is on her second marriage. I guess she didn't like spending time with her first husband. In fact, she was having an affair with husband number 2 while she was still married to husband number 1. Oh, and husband number 2 was also having an affair--cheating on his first wife in order to be with Carly.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/09/todd-bartlem-carly-fiorina-ex-husband-divorce-affair-cheated/
http://heavy.com/news/2015/09/frank-fiorina-carly-husband-marriage-children-lori-daughter-dead-bodyguard-patricia-easler-divorce/
I am surprised some reporters haven't called her out for talking about anyone else's marriage. ::)
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“Unlike another woman in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband,”
I assume she means her current husband because she is on her second marriage. I guess she didn't like spending time with her first husband. In fact, she was having an affair with husband number 2 while she was still married to husband number 1. Oh, and husband number 2 was also having an affair--cheating on his first wife in order to be with Carly.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/09/todd-bartlem-carly-fiorina-ex-husband-divorce-affair-cheated/
http://heavy.com/news/2015/09/frank-fiorina-carly-husband-marriage-children-lori-daughter-dead-bodyguard-patricia-easler-divorce/
I am surprised some reporters haven't called her out for talking about anyone else's marriage. ::)
I guess the reporters just throw up their hands and say its just ANOTHER Republican hypocrisy...........quit e normal for them
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“Unlike another woman in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband,”
that's a really messed up thing to say.
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that's a really messed up thing to say.
I wonder how HER husband feels????????????..Donald trump ACTUALLY meant it when he called her ugly
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Fiorina Cheers Self Up By Firing Campaign Staff
by The New Yorker
NEW HAMPSHIRE (The Borowitz Report)—After suffering a poor showing in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night, the former Hewlett-Packard C.E.O. Carly Fiorina cheered herself up by firing her entire campaign staff, fired staffers confirm.
Minutes after the returns started coming in, revealing that Fiorina had no chance of making a respectable showing, the former business executive acknowledged that she was “sad at first—but then I realized that every failure is an opportunity, and in this case I had an opportunity to give some people the axe.”
After delivering pink slips to her entire campaign staff, Fiorina said, “I started feeling better already.”
“That’s the one thing you have to understand about Carly Fiorina—she doesn’t stay down for long,” she said.
Fiorina said that she had “no regrets” about running for President, despite her dismal showing in New Hampshire. “I got to downsize a lot of people tonight, and that makes me a winner,” she said.
:-X
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And so it ends...
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Fiorina Cheers Self Up By Firing Campaign Staff
by The New Yorker
NEW HAMPSHIRE (The Borowitz Report)—After suffering a poor showing in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night, the former Hewlett-Packard C.E.O. Carly Fiorina cheered herself up by firing her entire campaign staff, fired staffers confirm.
Minutes after the returns started coming in, revealing that Fiorina had no chance of making a respectable showing, the former business executive acknowledged that she was “sad at first—but then I realized that every failure is an opportunity, and in this case I had an opportunity to give some people the axe.”
After delivering pink slips to her entire campaign staff, Fiorina said, “I started feeling better already.”
“That’s the one thing you have to understand about Carly Fiorina—she doesn’t stay down for long,” she said.
Fiorina said that she had “no regrets” about running for President, despite her dismal showing in New Hampshire. “I got to downsize a lot of people tonight, and that makes me a winner,” she said.
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lol, funny
I hope she doesn't try to cheat a bunch of people on her way out, like she did in her run for senate in 2010
Hope she takes a hike and stays there, too.
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Carly Fiorina and the shortest vice presidential candidacy in modern history
By Amber Phillips
With Ted Cruz out of the presidential race, Carly Fiorina now ranks in history among these fine politicians:
Richard Schweiker: 24 days
Thomas Eagleton: 18 days
Carly Fiorina: 7 days
Here’s a quick rundown on the shortest veep bids in modern American history.
Richard Schweiker: 24 days
When Schweiker died in 2015, headlines remembered the Pennsylvania senator as Ronald Reagan’s first running mate.
Even though the two had never met and it wasn’t for very long.
Reagan was making a serious challenge to President Gerald Ford in 1976 in the primary. As the nominating convention neared with Reagan behind in the delegate count, he needed a boost. So Reagan stunned the political world — and Schweiker — by announcing he was naming a running mate.
Schweiker was more moderate than Reagan, which Reagan’s campaign felt he needed. The two hadn’t met before, but apparently they hit it off. Reagan lost the nomination in a heart-breaker 24 days later. But when Reagan won the presidency in 1980, he appointed Schweiker to be his secretary of health and human services. Not a bad consolation prize — and one that Fiorina would surely be happy with in 2021.
Thomas Eagleton: 18 days
Thomas Eagleton is the reason politicians vet their veeps. George McGovern won Democrats’ 1972 contested convention (a regular thing back then) without a running mate after first Ted Kennedy and then other Democrats said no to him. (McGovern managed to upset a lot of the Democratic establishment with his upstart candidacy. Sound familiar?)
McGovern settled on Thomas Eagleton, a young Missouri senator, who then had to go on and win on a series of ballots for vice president. The two running mates spoke for two minutes over the phone and McGovern’s campaign did no serious vetting, said Joshua Glasser, who wrote a book, “The Eighteen Day Running Mate,” on the affair. That turned out to be a mistake.
Eagleton had been hospitalized for depression and stress and three times had undergone electroshock therapy. Back then, any hint of mental health problems was a political no-no. Eagleton initially stayed on the ticket despite pressure from the Democratic establishment for him to drop out. Eighteen days on, though, he ended it.
Carly Fiorina: Seven days
Ted Cruz actually took a page straight out of Reagan's 1976 playbook. After a terrible showing in the April 26 multistate I-95 primary, Cruz needed a big move to inject momentum back into his race. Donald Trump had won all five states by at least 30 points, and Cruz was mathematically blocked from winning the nomination before the GOP convention. The Republican establishment had already started resigning themselves to the fact Trump was going to be their nominee.
So Cruz tried to throw up one last roadblock. He preemptively named Fiorina his vice presidential nominee. Fiorina, who had dropped out of her own presidential bid months ago and had strong ties to California politics, which Cruz saw as one of his last, best chances to Stop Trump.
Unfortunately for the Cruz-Fiorina ticket, Indiana stopped them before they could even get to California.
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Carly Fiorina to Hillary Clinton: ‘I’m a Woman, and I’m Not Voting for You’
By Claire Landsbaum
Remember Carly Fiorina? She was Ted Cruz's vice-presidential candidate for about a week before he dropped out of the race? During which time she managed to alienate a majority of voters by breaking into song? Fiorina briefly disappeared from the spotlight after Cruz's collapse, but she reemerged late Thursday to attack Hillary Clinton on Twitter.
She started with a link to a Facebook post in which she slammed Clinton for the State Department's report on her use of a private email server. "You and I have been saying this for months: Hillary is unfit to be President," she wrote. "And the evidence keeps piling up. If anyone can stop her, it has to be you and me — conservatives like us who aren’t afraid of a fight."
Then she sent a few more tweets for good measure.
Carly Fiorina
.@HillaryClinton will say and do anything in her lust for power. She is the ultimate insider, the ultimate in a corrupt politician.
Carly Fiorina
Far from being a trailblazing woman who has accomplished things on her own, Hillary has traded on her husband's name, fame, and charisma.
Carly Fiorina
Mrs. Clinton, I have news for you: I am a woman, and I am not voting for you.
Far be it from a presidential candidate — and a female one, at that! — to "lust for power." And, yes, Carly, Bill Clinton's legacy has sure given Hillary a leg up in this race.
What's that, Carly? Not all women vote based on a politician's gender, but instead take into consideration the complex web of issues and policies that will directly affect their lives? What a shocking revelation.
As for Hillary Clinton being denied your vote, well, we're sure she's devastated.
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Carly Fiorina Plotting Bid to Chair Republican National Committee
by Zeke J Miller
Former HP CEO and 2016 presidential contender Carly Fiorina is actively laying the groundwork for a bid to be the next chair of the Republican National Committee, according to state GOP officials who have followed her plans.
Fiorina and her aides have plotted an aggressive season of travel this fall to states with and without close Republicans races as she looks to help down-ballot Republicans, but people familiar with the plans said she is also looking to curry favor with the influential 168 members of the Republican National Committee. In phone calls and emails, Fiorina has reached out to party chairs across the country as well as RNC committee-men and -women who will elect a successor to incumbent RNC chairman Reince Priebus in January.
“The past few months Carly has been helping out with major races around the country, I know she is planning to reach out to your party chairman in the next week or so, just to touch base and see if there is any way she could be helpful to Republicans in the [Insert State or Territory] this Fall,” a Fiorina advisor wrote to multiple state party executive directors in recent weeks.
What elevated Fiorina’s travel from popular surrogate and fundraiser to that of RNC chair candidate, according to multiple RNC members, was her outreach to the U.S. territories, a particularly powerful voting bloc within the RNC but fall way down on the party’s priority list for the fall. Another source noted that the domains CarlyForChair.com and CarlyForRNC.com were both registered on July 14 at the same time.
The campaign for the chairmanship would be moot should Donald Trump win the White House, when custom dictates that the RNC defer to the wishes of the incumbent president. But Fiorina isn’t betting on a Trump win—in fact just the opposite. The noted Clinton critic has declined to formally endorse Trump, but has sought to burnish her spot in the conservative moment with frequent attacks on the Democratic nominee.
A failed California Senate candidate in 2010, Fiorina has served as the vice chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and chair of the American Conservative Union Foundation, which is affiliated with the annual Conservative Political Action Conference.
Fiorina has been searching for another act since her presidential candidacy made her a household name. After dropping out of the presidential race in February, Fiorina briefly joined Texas Sen. Ted Cruz as a running-mate as part of a last-ditch ploy before the Indiana primary. After Trump won the state, the pair ended their candidacy. But Fiorina reconstituted her campaign as an outside group to enable her to travel in support of GOP candidates across the country.
A Fiorina spokesperson would not comment on the former candidate’s future plans, but highlighted her travel to assist vulnerable Republicans.
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, already the longest serving party chairman in his sixth year, declined to rule out seeking a fourth two-year term in an interview with TIME last month. But Preibus’ announcement has been viewed inside the RNC as an effort to contain speculation about his possible successors until after the Nov. 8 general election. In the interview with TIME, Priebus encouraged aspirants for his office to remain focused on the campaign at hand.
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Carly Fiorina Endorses Donald Trump
by Kody Fairfield
According to Senior Editor at The Atlantic David Frum and consistent with a tweet from the Washington State GOP twitter page, former GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina has endorsed GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump.
In a tweet saying, “We must have president Trump, we can’t have president Clinton,” it appears that Fiorina, after months of silence, is jumping on the Trump Train.
This is slightly shocking since she and Trump did not have the most friendly relationship, with Trump making statements in GOP debates about her physical appearance. Fiorina, after Trump’s clinching of the nomination, was said to want nothing to do with his campaign, even though she did turn some of her focus to help Kentucky Senator Rand Paul‘s re-election bid.
It appears that either the two former rivals have patched up their previously contentious relationship, or that the thought of a Clinton presidency is far worse to Fiorina than personal and derogatory attacks on her physical appearance.
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What's your deal with Carly, Bay?
A forgettable loon, what gives?
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What's your deal with Carly, Bay?
A forgettable loon, what gives?
Carly has been on my radar screen since she was CEO of HP. At one time, I lived in the Valley and knew quite few people who worked at HP. It has been fun watching her "fail up." She loves to play the gender card even as she denies it. At one time, she said there was "no glass ceiling." Her philosophy seems to be "I became CEO so obviously, there is no such thing as gender bias in the world." She later apologized and recanted her "no glass ceiling" comment.
After flunking out of HP, she wrote a book defending her failed tenure. By almost every measure (stock price, innovation, net revenue, etc.) HP failed horribly during her tenure, but she still tries to spin it as some sort of success. She ran a horrible campaign against Barbara Boxer for Senate and instead of just going away, she quickly moved to Northern Virginia and tried to "fail up" again by running for president. By the way, like Meg Whitman, Fiorina has a long history of almost never voting. Think about the arrogance of that! Remember when she hitched her caboose to Ted Cruz hoping it would turn into something?
Now, because she is angling to run for GOP party chair, she is endorsing Donald Trump. A man who basically said she was too ugly to live! She is desperate for power and relevance. And for several years now she has sought to get some by attacking someone with real political experience: Hillary Clinton.
She destroyed many careers at HP and is easily the most hated woman to come out of Silicon Valley. I have far more respect for Meg Whitman.
Bottom line: after all she has said, done, and failed at, I like watching and making fun of Carly Fiorina. ;D
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Carly has been on my radar screen since she was CEO of HP. At one time, I lived in the Valley and knew quite few people who worked at HP. It has been fun watching her "fail up." She loves to play the gender card even as she denies it. At one time, she said there was "no glass ceiling." Her philosophy seems to be "I became CEO so obviously, there is no such thing as gender bias in the world." She later apologized and recanted her "no glass ceiling" comment.
After flunking out of HP, she wrote a book defending her failed tenure. By almost every measure (stock price, innovation, net revenue, etc.) HP failed horribly during her tenure, but she still tries to spin it as some sort of success. She ran a horrible campaign against Barbara Boxer for Senate and instead of just going away, she quickly moved to Northern Virginia and tried to "fail up" again by running for president. By the way, like Meg Whitman, Fiorina has a long history of almost never voting. Think about the arrogance of that! Remember when she hitched her caboose to Ted Cruz hoping it would turn into something?
Now, because she is angling to run or GOP party chair, she is endorsing Donald Trump. A man who basically said she was too ugly to live! She is desperate for power and relevance. And for several years now she has sought to get some by attacking someone with real political experience: Hillary Clinton.
She destroyed many careers at HP and is easily the most hated woman to come out of Silicon Valley. I have far more respect for Meg Whitman.
Bottom line: after all she has said, done, and failed at, I like watching and making fun of Carly Fiorina. ;D
Fair enough.
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Carly has been on my radar screen since she was CEO of HP. At one time, I lived in the Valley and knew quite few people who worked at HP. It has been fun watching her "fail up." She loves to play the gender card even as she denies it. At one time, she said there was "no glass ceiling." Her philosophy seems to be "I became CEO so obviously, there is no such thing as gender bias in the world." She later apologized and recanted her "no glass ceiling" comment.
After flunking out of HP, she wrote a book defending her failed tenure. By almost every measure (stock price, innovation, net revenue, etc.) HP failed horribly during her tenure, but she still tries to spin it as some sort of success. She ran a horrible campaign against Barbara Boxer for Senate and instead of just going away, she quickly moved to Northern Virginia and tried to "fail up" again by running for president. By the way, like Meg Whitman, Fiorina has a long history of almost never voting. Think about the arrogance of that! Remember when she hitched her caboose to Ted Cruz hoping it would turn into something?
Now, because she is angling to run for GOP party chair, she is endorsing Donald Trump. A man who basically said she was too ugly to live! She is desperate for power and relevance. And for several years now she has sought to get some by attacking someone with real political experience: Hillary Clinton.
She destroyed many careers at HP and is easily the most hated woman to come out of Silicon Valley. I have far more respect for Meg Whitman.
Bottom line: after all she has said, done, and failed at, I like watching and making fun of Carly Fiorina. ;D
Good post, Bay.
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Carly has been on my radar screen since she was CEO of HP. At one time, I lived in the Valley and knew quite few people who worked at HP. It has been fun watching her "fail up." She loves to play the gender card even as she denies it. At one time, she said there was "no glass ceiling." Her philosophy seems to be "I became CEO so obviously, there is no such thing as gender bias in the world." She later apologized and recanted her "no glass ceiling" comment.
After flunking out of HP, she wrote a book defending her failed tenure. By almost every measure (stock price, innovation, net revenue, etc.) HP failed horribly during her tenure, but she still tries to spin it as some sort of success. She ran a horrible campaign against Barbara Boxer for Senate and instead of just going away, she quickly moved to Northern Virginia and tried to "fail up" again by running for president. By the way, like Meg Whitman, Fiorina has a long history of almost never voting. Think about the arrogance of that! Remember when she hitched her caboose to Ted Cruz hoping it would turn into something?
Now, because she is angling to run for GOP party chair, she is endorsing Donald Trump. A man who basically said she was too ugly to live! She is desperate for power and relevance. And for several years now she has sought to get some by attacking someone with real political experience: Hillary Clinton.
She destroyed many careers at HP and is easily the most hated woman to come out of Silicon Valley. I have far more respect for Meg Whitman.
Bottom line: after all she has said, done, and failed at, I like watching and making fun of Carly Fiorina. ;D
:D
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Carly has been on my radar screen since she was CEO of HP. At one time, I lived in the Valley and knew quite few people who worked at HP. It has been fun watching her "fail up." She loves to play the gender card even as she denies it. At one time, she said there was "no glass ceiling." Her philosophy seems to be "I became CEO so obviously, there is no such thing as gender bias in the world." She later apologized and recanted her "no glass ceiling" comment.
After flunking out of HP, she wrote a book defending her failed tenure. By almost every measure (stock price, innovation, net revenue, etc.) HP failed horribly during her tenure, but she still tries to spin it as some sort of success. She ran a horrible campaign against Barbara Boxer for Senate and instead of just going away, she quickly moved to Northern Virginia and tried to "fail up" again by running for president. By the way, like Meg Whitman, Fiorina has a long history of almost never voting. Think about the arrogance of that! Remember when she hitched her caboose to Ted Cruz hoping it would turn into something?
Now, because she is angling to run for GOP party chair, she is endorsing Donald Trump. A man who basically said she was too ugly to live! She is desperate for power and relevance. And for several years now she has sought to get some by attacking someone with real political experience: Hillary Clinton.
She destroyed many careers at HP and is easily the most hated woman to come out of Silicon Valley. I have far more respect for Meg Whitman.
Bottom line: after all she has said, done, and failed at, I like watching and making fun of Carly Fiorina. ;D
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Gold!
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Carly Fiorina calls on Donald Trump to step aside and Mike Pence to move to the top of the ticket
"Donald Trump does not represent me or my party. I understand the responsibility of Republicans to support their nominee. Our nominee has weighty responsibilities as well. Donald Trump has manifestly failed in these responsibilities.
I have traveled the country for years warning Americans that Hillary Clinton is unfit to be President.
We must have a conservative in the White House to restore accountability, opportunity and security. For the sake of our Constitution and the rule of law, we must defeat Hillary Clinton.
Today I ask Donald Trump to step aside and for the RNC to replace him with Gov. Mike Pence."
Carly Fiorina, the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, joined a growing list of those demanding that Donald Trump end his presidential campaign, calling on running mate Mike Pence to ascend to the top of the ticket.
Fiorina, the only woman to seek the Republican nomination for president, was tough on Trump and his views on women during the primaries, memorably challenging him during a debate after it emerged that he had insulted her looks.
"I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said," she said, glaring.
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She wants to be pences veep
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She wants to be pences veep
Very badly! :'(
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It'd mend a lot of fences with female voters.
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It'd mend a lot of fences with female voters.
Would like Donald to grab her muff.
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Would like Donald to grab her muff.