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Title: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on July 31, 2020, 08:55:51 AM
Does anyone legitimately think that's a good idea ???
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: B_B_C on July 31, 2020, 09:04:48 AM

its probably fake news but:
 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/florida-mail-in-voting-trump-362519  (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/florida-mail-in-voting-trump-362519)

Florida GOP doctors Trump tweet to solve mail-in voting problem

Republicans privately fear the president is endangering one of the secrets to the party’s success in the nation’s biggest swing state.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 31, 2020, 10:35:05 AM
It's a good idea if you are a libtard as dead people, prisoners and escaped convicts vote for democrats.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on July 31, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
It's done in a few states already, anyone here willing to discuss the corruption they see in these elections by democrats?
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on July 31, 2020, 04:01:19 PM
Does anyone legitimately think that's a good idea ???

we've been doing it fo 150 + years

5 states already send EVERY voter a mail in ballot
Oregon has been doing ALL MAIL in voting for Presidential elections for 20 years

It's not an issue

The only one trying to make it an issue is THE TRAITOR and his traitorous supporters

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501577-heres-where-your-state-stands-on-mail-in-voting
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on July 31, 2020, 04:59:33 PM
we've been doing it fo 150 + years

5 states already send EVERY voter a mail in ballot
Oregon has been doing ALL MAIL in voting for Presidential elections for 20 years

It's not an issue

The only one trying to make it an issue is THE TRAITOR and his traitorous supporters

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501577-heres-where-your-state-stands-on-mail-in-voting
You can't make a single post without mentioning Trump, your opinion is invalid.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Grape Ape on July 31, 2020, 05:42:18 PM
I believe NJ did a recent all mail in election and there was a problem with 10% of the ballots.

Extrapolate that to 140-150 million nationwide voters.

Not good.

Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Moontrane on July 31, 2020, 07:05:08 PM
I believe NJ did a recent all mail in election and there was a problem with 10% of the ballots.

Extrapolate that to 140-150 million nationwide voters.

Not good.

No shit! It seems that voting by mail is a type of IQ test for voters.

About one in every 10 people who mailed in ballots in last month’s special elections had their votes rejected,
which could forebode the potential disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of New Jerseyans in next month’s primaries.

An NJ Spotlight analysis of the vote-by-mail ballots cast in 31 municipalities that held nonpartisan municipal, school
board or special elections on May 12 — an entirely mail-in election — found that election officials did not count 9.6%
of ballots sent in. A database provided by the state Division of Elections shows more than a dozen reasons for rejecting
ballots. Most commonly, officials did not count ballots because the signature on the ballot did not match the one on file,
the ballot arrived too late or the required certificate was not enclosed.


https://www.njspotlight.com/2020/06/one-in-10-ballots-rejected-in-last-months-vote-by-mail-elections/
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 01, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
Funny, that in 2020, so-called Progressives want a Presidential Election decided by antiquated snail mail.🤔
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 01, 2020, 09:02:51 AM
Funny, that in 2020, so-called Progressives want a Presidential Election decided by antiquated snail mail.🤔
They are antiquated and their name "Progressive" is actually regressive.  If their policies were implemented our country would go to hell in a hand basket.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2020, 10:14:48 AM
No shit! It seems that voting by mail is a type of IQ test for voters.

About one in every 10 people who mailed in ballots in last month’s special elections had their votes rejected,
which could forebode the potential disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of New Jerseyans in next month’s primaries.

An NJ Spotlight analysis of the vote-by-mail ballots cast in 31 municipalities that held nonpartisan municipal, school
board or special elections on May 12 — an entirely mail-in election — found that election officials did not count 9.6%
of ballots sent in. A database provided by the state Division of Elections shows more than a dozen reasons for rejecting
ballots. Most commonly, officials did not count ballots because the signature on the ballot did not match the one on file,
the ballot arrived too late or the required certificate was not enclosed.


https://www.njspotlight.com/2020/06/one-in-10-ballots-rejected-in-last-months-vote-by-mail-elections/
9.6%...I'm sure other areas would be higher, maybe some lower.  And who selected which votes didn't count? Would be interesting to tally the uncounted votes and se if the percentages were equally dem/rep.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 01, 2020, 12:58:49 PM
It's done in a few states already, anyone here willing to discuss the corruption they see in these elections by democrats?

Or corruption they see by Republicans?

Mail in voting is no different than absentee voting.  And that has been around for a while now.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 01, 2020, 01:47:35 PM
Or corruption they see by Republicans?

Mail in voting is no different than absentee voting.  And that has been around for a while now.

This is my Congressional District. The Primary was June 23 and it’s still not officiial.

A National Presidential Election by mail will be a complete disaster.


Patel refuses to concede as Maloney's lead grows by 3,700 votes in contested congressional race - amNewYork


https://www.amny.com/politics/patel-refuses-to-concede-as-maloneys-lead-grows-by-3700-votes-in-contested-congressional-race/
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2020, 01:48:55 PM
A Brief History of Vote By Mail (VBM) in Oregon
History of Vote By Mail in Oregon prior to becoming the first Vote By Mail only state.

1981 - The Oregon Legislature approves a test of vote by mail (VBM) for local elections.
 
1987 - VBM made permanent; majority of counties use it for local/special elections. June 1993 First special statewide election by mail – 39 percent turnout.
 
May 1995 - Second special statewide election by mail – 44 percent turnout.
 
Spring/Summer 1995 - The Oregon Legislature approves a proposal to expand VBM to primary and general elections. The Governor vetoes the bill.
 
December 1995 - Oregon becomes the first state to conduct a primary election totally by mail to nominate candidates to fill a vacancy in a federal office – 58 percent turnout.
 
January 1996 - Oregon becomes the first state to conduct a general election totally by mail to fill a vacancy in a federal office when it selects Senator Ron Wyden to replace Bob Packwood – 66 percent turnout.
 
March 1996 - Oregon holds the country’s second VBM presidential primary. (The first VBM presidential primary was held by North Dakota, just weeks prior to Oregon’s election.) – 58 percent turnout.
 
May 1997 Sixth special statewide election by mail – 42 percent turnout.
 
Spring/Summer 1997 - The Oregon House of Representatives approves a proposal to expand VBM to primary and general elections. The bill dies in a Senate committee. The Governor would have signed the bill into law.
 
November 1997 - Seventh special statewide election by mail – 60 percent turnout.
 
May 1998 - Primary election at the polls. Forty-one percent of registered voters in Oregon are permanent absentee voters. Overall, the state posts a record low turnout at 35 percent. Absentee ballots represent nearly two-thirds of all ballots cast; Oregon becomes the first state to have more ballots cast by mail than at the polls during a polling place election. Absentee voter turnout was 53 percent, compared to a turnout at the polls of 22 percent.
 
June 1998 - Supporters of expanding VBM to primary and general elections use the initiative to put the issue on the November general election ballot. No paid signature gatherers were used to put the measure on the ballot – a first since 1994.
 
November 3, 1998 - Oregon voters decide to expand VBM to primary and general elections by a vote of 757,204 to 334,021.
 
November 2, 1999 - Eighth special statewide election by mail - 38 percent turnout.
Statewide Turnout 2000 - 2005 after Oregon became Vote By Mail only state

May 2000 - Presidential Primary election VBM - 51 percent turnout.
November 2000 - First VBM Presidential General election - 79 percent turnout.
May 2002 - Primary election VBM - 46 percent turnout.
September - 2002 Special election for two statewide measures VBM - 44 percent turnout.
November 2002 General election VBM - 69 percent turnout.
January 2003 Special election for a statewide measure VBM - 66 percent turnout.
September 2003 Special election for a statewide measure VBM - 35 percent turnout.
February 2004 Special election for a statewide measure VBM - 63 percent turnout.
May 2004 Presidential Primary election VBM - 46 percent turnout.
November 2004 Presidential General election VBM. Voter registration exceeds 2 million - 86 percent turnout.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2020, 01:50:53 PM
No, Fraud Isn’t Rampant in Colorado’s Mail-In Voting System
President Donald Trump has cited security concerns for why widespread mail-in voting doesn't work. But the Centennial State has proven that, with the right system in place, fraud can be prevented and turnout can soar.

BY SHANE MONAGHAN •  MAY 1, 2020

Colorado is one of just five states that sends a ballot to every registered voter by mail, and if the success of our elections is any proof, Trump’s assertions don’t have much merit. “Mail-in voting is safe if you have the proper processes in place,” says Wayne Williams, who helped refine Colorado’s mail-in voting initiative while he was secretary of state from 2015 to 2019. “Our state’s system is an example of how things can be kept secure.”

https://www.5280.com/2020/05/no-fraud-isnt-rampant-in-colorados-mail-in-voting-system/
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2020, 01:54:11 PM
All-Mail Elections (aka Vote-By-Mail)

Five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah. At least 21 other states have laws that allow certain smaller elections, such as school board contests, to be conducted by mail. For these elections, all registered voters receive a ballot in the mail. The voter marks the ballot, puts it in a secrecy envelope or sleeve and then into a separate mailing envelope, signs an affidavit on the exterior of the mailing envelope, and returns the package via mail or by dropping it off.

Vote by mail logoBallots are mailed out well ahead of Election Day, and thus voters have an “election period,” not just a single day, to vote. All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone. This system is also referred to as “vote by mail.”

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=post;topic=667470.0;last_msg=9444738
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2020, 02:23:29 PM
You can't make a single post without mentioning Trump, your opinion is invalid.

It would be invalid without mentioning Trump.

Mail in votes, Abolish the electoral college, release convicts, wants to make that all illegals can vote.

If the Presidential race is close and we mail in vote (that can’t be verified) the counts and recounts will go on forever...Abrams in Florida was a prime example and it wasn’t even a presidential race....and it wasn’t even close
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 01, 2020, 02:25:50 PM
This is my Congressional District. The Primary was June 23 and it’s still not officiial.

A National Presidential Election by mail will be a complete disaster.


Patel refuses to concede as Maloney's lead grows by 3,700 votes in contested congressional race - amNewYork


https://www.amny.com/politics/patel-refuses-to-concede-as-maloneys-lead-grows-by-3700-votes-in-contested-congressional-race/
It sure would be a disaster and would take months or years to declare a winner.  If people are too lazy to get off their asses and vote then they don't need to vote.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on August 01, 2020, 02:36:18 PM


Hey Jay III (aka Old Fart Saggy), can you post any pics of departing Mr.Trump Federal Gladiators  ;D

Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2020, 03:56:24 PM
So I assume during this democrat led joke of voting by mail that Trump will remain in office until somebody counts all those votes? Could take months or years....4 more years maybe?  :D
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 01, 2020, 04:14:34 PM
So I assume during this democrat led joke of voting by mail that Trump will remain in office until somebody counts all those votes? Could take months or years....4 more years maybe?  :D

The election in my district has fewer than 100K voters. The presidential general will have about 120 million.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2020, 06:52:49 PM

Hey Jay III (aka Old Fart Saggy), can you post any pics of departing Mr.Trump Federal Gladiators  ;D

This is the best I can do for now. At least most have their backs to the camera.

Primemuscle  aka  Jay III

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/17/us/17UNREST-PORTLAND1/merlin_174476607_4ba6b1fa-ca04-4341-9773-d38f3b175fe9-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg)

Graffiti is disgusting....bunch of no talent artists!
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on August 02, 2020, 02:26:20 AM
This is the best I can do for now. At least most have their backs to the camera.

Primemuscle  aka  Jay III

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/17/us/17UNREST-PORTLAND1/merlin_174476607_4ba6b1fa-ca04-4341-9773-d38f3b175fe9-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg)

Graffiti is disgusting....bunch of no talent artists!


Mr.Trump G L A D I A T O R S !.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 02, 2020, 03:39:20 AM
So I assume during this democrat led joke of voting by mail that Trump will remain in office until somebody counts all those votes? Could take months or years....4 more years maybe?  :D
The democrats would whine about that too.  If Trump wins or there is any delay in election results the libs will complain that Trump is being a dictator.  They can never accept their party being turned down by voters.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: chaos on August 02, 2020, 08:25:49 AM
The democrats would whine about that too.  If Trump wins or there is any delay in election results the libs will complain that Trump is being a dictator.  They can never accept their party being turned down by voters.
True. And they're promoting and encouraging their left wing radicals to hit the streets and cause violence now, imagine when they lose again? :D
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 02, 2020, 09:15:16 AM
True. And they're promoting and encouraging their left wing radicals to hit the streets and cause violence now, imagine when they lose again? :D
I'm looking forward to the next women's march.  I want to see those Warpigs get as much exercise as possible.  I do feel sorry for their cats left home alone, though.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2020, 02:47:09 PM
we've been doing it fo 150 + years

5 states already send EVERY voter a mail in ballot
Oregon has been doing ALL MAIL in voting for Presidential elections for 20 years

It's not an issue

The only one trying to make it an issue is THE TRAITOR and his traitorous supporters

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501577-heres-where-your-state-stands-on-mail-in-voting

Mail in Voting is backfiring on the Dems to the point where they’re pivoting on the issue.

Their base is too stupid to fill out the forms correctly and have high rejection rates:



Democrats are pivoting to embrace in-person voting - Axios

https://www.axios.com/democrats-mail-voting-pivot-838522b7-8dac-42b4-a566-1ba93818654d.html


Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Howard on September 24, 2020, 03:22:55 PM
The % fraud on this type of voting is a miniscule 0.00025%

Screw factual data when a fat orange faced toddler in chief, spouts a random brain fart.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-potentially-fraudulent-ballots-in-states-with-universal-mail-voting-undercuts-trump-claims-about-election-risks/2020/06/08/1e78aa26-a5c5-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on September 24, 2020, 03:27:30 PM
THE TRAITOR tweets to support voting by mail in Florida

So I guess today he thinks that voting by mail is perfectly fine

I wonder why he didn't tweet to vote by mail and then go vote again in person like he has previously suggested in multiple occasions

Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on September 24, 2020, 03:30:02 PM
It's never been done on this massive a scale, or in this type of evnironment.

If you can go the store for food, you can vote in person.

If you're at risk, request an absentee ballot.

Easy.

so what and who gives a shit what anyones reason is for voting by mail

maybe people just don't want to stand in line

who cares

THE TRAITOR votes by mail so if it's good enough for him then it's good enough for the rest of us
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Grape Ape on September 24, 2020, 03:36:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EARb2gxWwAEN_j_.jpg)

Didn't read it though, but history shows I'm likely correct.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on September 24, 2020, 03:37:37 PM
Here is a reason to vote by mail....so you don't have to stand in line and be harassed by Trumptards

btw - this is voter intimidation which is illegal. 
Displaying political signs within a certain distance from a polling place is usually illegal too

Of course THE TRAITOR and his idiot followers don't give a shit about laws when THEY are the ones breaking them

Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on September 24, 2020, 03:41:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EARb2gxWwAEN_j_.jpg)

Didn't read it though, but history shows I'm likely correct.

projection much ?

once again I see you can't refute the content of my post so you defer to projection and deflection

Kind of reminds me about how THE TRAITOR is constantly whining about non-existent voter fraud yet he's the guy whose entire life has been based on defrauding others ( his fraudulent university, his fraudulent charity, defrauded shareholders in his casinos, defrauded contractors and subcontractors, etc..)
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Grape Ape on September 24, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
projection much ?

once again I see you can't refute the content of my post so you defer to projection and deflection

Kind of reminds me about how THE TRAITOR is constantly whining about non-existent voter fraud yet he's the guy whose entire life has been based on defrauding others ( his fraudulent university, his fraudulent charity, defrauded shareholders in his casinos, defrauded contractors and subcontractors, etc..)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EARb2gxWwAEN_j_.jpg)

Didn't read again.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2020, 03:46:17 PM
Apparently early voting is going heavily in Trump’s direction as well. Stick a fork in sleepy.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Straw Man on September 24, 2020, 03:54:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EARb2gxWwAEN_j_.jpg)

Didn't read again.

LOL sure you didn't

I'm sure your lack of response has NOTHING to do with the FACT that YOU CAN"T DENY THAT THE TRAITOR has beed DEFRAUDING PEOPLE HIS ENTIRE LIFE

fraudulent university, his fraudulent charity, defrauded shareholders in his casinos, defrauded contractors and subcontractors, etc..
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Howard on September 24, 2020, 03:56:29 PM
Apparently early voting is going heavily in Trump’s direction as well. Stick a fork in sleepy.

Ok, so, if we have a state with more " bad mail in ballots" for Trump, we should disqualify those ballots , right?
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2020, 04:20:31 PM
Ok, so, if we have a state with more " bad mail in ballots" for Trump, we should disqualify those ballots , right?


It’s not too late to jump on the Trump train Howard. You’re retired. You don’t have to answer to the communist teachers unions anymore.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: IroNat on September 25, 2020, 06:42:16 AM
40,000 mail-in ballots were rejected in July. Is NJ prepared for November?

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/11/nj-mail-voting-why-40-k-mail-ballots-were-rejected-primary/5769832002/

Melanie Sue popped into the Waldwick post office at about 10 a.m. on July 7 — primary day in New Jersey — to drop off her ballot.

Sue, of Mahwah, was one of the million-plus New Jerseyans casting their votes via mail-in ballot because of Gov. Phil Murphy’s coronavirus restrictions. She assumed the ballot would be counted, since it had to be postmarked no later than July 7.

"I remember thinking, well, I’m at least six or seven hours before the deadline," she said.

Last week, Sue received a letter from the Bergen County Board of Elections saying her vote had been rejected because it was late. A board clerk found her ballot and told her it was postmarked July 8, the day after she left it at the post office.

"I felt defeated," Sue said.
Closeup on a voter information paper with '2020 Vote by Mail Ballot' heading and pen laying on top.

More than 40,800 primary ballots, or 2.8% of all cast, were rejected in New Jersey this year, a figure that represents a nearly eightfold increase from the last presidential primary in 2016. That year, 5,176 primary ballots were tossed.


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Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Howard on September 25, 2020, 09:22:28 AM

It’s not too late to jump on the Trump train Howard. You’re retired. You don’t have to answer to the communist teachers unions anymore.

LOL, but I think the Trump train is about to drive off the rails. ;)

What cracks me up, is how Trump supporters just accept anything he says, as gospel truth.
For example, with this mail in ballot issue, Trump has no credible evidence of fraud.

This is America and the President doesn't get to decide, how we vote or what votes will be counted.
That's what they do in places like N. Korea that are run by dictators.

Trumpers just agree with him without question or critical examination.
In fact, you rarely, if ever hear any jokes about him or vocal dissent by Trumpers.
THAT's why support for Trump reminds me of some cult-like , group .

Vote for who you desire, but, at least allow a free, fair and transparent election process.
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 26, 2020, 02:22:11 PM
Too late, losers.😂😂😂😂😂


Democrats frantically move away from pushing mail-in voting to in person


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrats-frantically-move-away-from-pushing-mail-in-voting-to-in-person
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: tom joad on September 28, 2020, 07:26:37 AM


Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 30, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
Gee, I’m shocked that such a thing could happen.😂


NYC To Send 100,000 New Absentee Ballots After Printing Error : NPR


https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/918382378/nyc-to-send-new-ballots-to-nearly-100-000-voters-after-printing-error
Title: Re: Voting by mail
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on September 30, 2020, 05:30:17 PM
we've been doing it fo 150 + years




Lying to yourself Bob, you are the 2nd generation of Mussolinis ItalianAmericans !.