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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2013, 08:13:22 AM »
this is true
So are you going to take on dj181 in a posedown? You are bigger than him looking at both of your pics but criteria seems to be leanness and symmetry not size.  He has asked me to be a judge. I judged the GB contest with chaos and Xerces around 200 or so physiques. So you two let me know.

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2013, 08:52:50 AM »
I'm thinking.....doable but I'd be more interested in seeing who could lose the most body fat. I'm really trying to get over this obsession with getting bigger dj I don't care if I end up looking skinny like you lol

just fucking with ya dude  ;D

allright man, so we could have a "who is leanest contest then" ;)

i've already dropped 3 cm off my waist and my ab skinfold has gone down 2 mm

i predict that i hit sub-7 by April 15th 8)

and i will be @ sub-7 with bigger arms and chest, just you wait and see ma man ;)

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2013, 08:59:37 AM »
allright man, so we could have a "who is leanest contest then" ;)

i've already dropped 3 cm off my waist and my ab skinfold has gone down 2 mm

i predict that i hit sub-7 by April 15th 8)

and i will be @ sub-7 with bigger arms and chest, just you wait and see ma man ;)

April 15 it is.

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2013, 09:00:21 AM »

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2013, 09:43:17 AM »
Borracho, suggesting a different approach form most regular BB'ing training.

Might suggest GVT for the chest. That's 10X10's  (total a 100 reps)  With the used of DB's, rather than a regular bar, because of the better stretch on the pec's. Also touching the DB's together, each rep at the top position, with a 1 or 2 second pause. This brings more of a contraction (stress..the good kind) on the pec's and there natural function of crossing the arms in front of the body.

Reminding you that the GVT style is to use a lighter weight throughout the whole 100 rep total. Example: 200lbs might seem that kids stuff at first for the first couple of sets, but after that it can be  very taxing. 90 to 12o  seconds rest between sets. If finding that you can't get a true 10 reps for the final 2 or 3 sets, that start with a lower weight that the original 200lbs.

Arms: Find that quad sets work very well for arm work  (and with most other body parts), if a shock factor is the main purpose.

Example biceps;

1) BB curl (slight cheat)
2) Standing Hammer DB curls
3) Incline DB curls
4) Preacher bench curls (two or one handed)....All movements are 7-9 reps. Preform two quad sets, with no rest between exercises. 2 to 3 minutes rest between cycles.

Same idea for the triceps, 4 exercises (quads), same protocol starting with a heavier exercise to a lighter, more focused (some use the term isolation, though really not possible in the strict sense of the word) movement.

Calves: Many guy's I have knows have had good luck with doing a couple sets of calf raises, every hour on the hour, throughout the day. Rather than the standard 5 or 6 sets in a regular gym workout. The throughout the day calf work will usually involve 6 to 8 times during a day.  Try that two days in a row, take 2 or 3 days off and that the 2 days in a row thing.

As for the rest of the body, three sets of regular leg, back, delt work should be enough. Don't know if your running a cycle now or if you have been training like most Pro's (hitting the middle portion ROM only) but, anyway, just a few suggestions for whatever they may be worth. Good Luck.
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2013, 09:58:09 AM »
^ Hey that looks really neat  :D

One question wrt the calf raises jpm....you recommend a certain rep range...bodyweight till failure ok?
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2013, 12:10:33 PM »
Borracho:

Reps usually in the 15 to 20 range. Trying for one leg at a time, or both, the idea is to increase the pump in these short 2 sets, scattered throughout the day. Might add, the important stretch and the pump, remembering the old BB'ing saying, "More blood, more muscle". Which still holds true for many, many BB'ers even today. In other words, you don't want any outrages pump that fries the CNS on these all day programs.

Some of the larger top level BB'ers I that I have been acquainted with don't go anywhere near the extreme failure level. And with the all day calf program, you might find that not going to failure each set will produce better results. But do what  you think is best for your body. You know you body's responses better than anyone of us on GB.  Good Luck.

Side Bar:  The all day thing seems to work well on a arm program also.
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2013, 01:57:30 PM »
sounds good jpm...

Thanks!
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2013, 02:08:47 PM »
sounds good jpm...

Thanks!

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2013, 03:34:08 PM »
training thighs and back is pretty much useless


disagree not with my legs,,,

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2013, 05:06:53 PM »
you're going down chump

lol maybe 

my diet today was a few beers and some pastries.

disagree not with my legs,,,

He's just trolling. I love training back, realistically I don't think I'd ever be able to give that up. Legs would be easier to say sayonara to but still important I know.
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2013, 05:11:53 PM »
lol maybe 

my diet today was a few beers and some pastries.


Mike Mentzer ate pastries right up until the '79 olympia, and he came in ripped as fuck ;)


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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2013, 05:16:08 PM »
yeah but I'm not taking any amphetamines....just a little crack in the morning to get my heart rate up  ;D


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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2013, 04:13:32 AM »
all day training and pumping blood into the muscle group(s) is not a long term solution. This was used in the old days to gain temporary size usually before a show. the minimal size soon goes when normal training resumes. Itīs a bit like the reverse when people will lose weight fast.. they go in a sauna and sweat lots of fluid out and lose weight, drink fluid and your back to square one.

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2013, 07:50:54 AM »
all day training and pumping blood into the muscle group(s) is not a long term solution. This was used in the old days to gain temporary size usually before a show. the minimal size soon goes when normal training resumes. Itīs a bit like the reverse when people will lose weight fast.. they go in a sauna and sweat lots of fluid out and lose weight, drink fluid and your back to square one.

I've decided to do pre exhaust for chest ...but for calves donny I thought maybe this would be a good shock routine. At least for a little while  ???
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2013, 08:03:11 AM »
I've decided to do pre exhaust for chest ...but for calves donny I thought maybe this would be a good shock routine. At least for a little while  ???
go for it... ;D

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2013, 08:21:04 AM »
go for it... ;D

hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2013, 08:42:53 AM »
hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...

btw man, let's keep this bodyfat level contest on the up and up and agree that neither of us will use any "tricks of the trade"

like dehydration, bronzing the skin, lightening tricks, etc.

deal?

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2013, 08:49:47 AM »
hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...
yeah sure you did Pro..

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2013, 08:58:35 AM »
btw man, let's keep this bodyfat level contest on the up and up and agree that neither of us will use any "tricks of the trade"

like dehydration, bronzing the skin, lightening tricks, etc.

deal?

I'm way too lazy for that trust me lol

so yes...deal.

yeah sure you did Pro..

I was sore til yesterday lol

And come on donny we're all professional getbiggers around here!  :D
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2013, 09:01:33 AM »
I'm way too lazy for that trust me lol

so yes...deal.

I was sore til yesterday lol

And come on donny we're all profesional getbiggers around here!  :D


allright man, sounds good ;D

i'm on my 3rd black coffee trying to make it through this lo cal day while cursing the day that you were born >:( >:( >:(

J/K ma man! ;D

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« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2013, 09:03:25 AM »
allright man, sounds good ;D

i'm on my 3rd black coffee trying to make it through this lo cal day while cursing the day that you were born >:( >:( >:(

J/K ma man! ;D

lol

What have you ate so far today?
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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2013, 09:05:04 AM »
Mike Mentzer ate pastries right up until the '79 olympia, and he came in ripped as fuck ;)


a calori is a calori

and a steroid is a steroid


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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2013, 09:08:58 AM »
lol

What have you ate so far today?

breakkie was coffee with a bit of milk and sugar and 75 grams of white chesse

lunch was bean soup with one medium sized egg

and i'm thinking bout skipping din-din

total cals so far=1489

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Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2013, 09:19:17 AM »
breakkie was coffee with a bit of milk and sugar and 75 grams of white chesse

lunch was bean soup with one medium sized egg

and i'm thinking bout skipping din-din

total cals so far=1489
no wonder you look like shit bro  ::)