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1. Communication skills aren't even close. Trump is likable even if you don't agree with his politics. Hillary is a complete phony and boring. Zero Energy.
2. Hillary is married to a creepy old pervert with a history of female abuse a mile long. Trump has and will continue to exploit that. Trump is beginning to poll better with women than men on the Republican side. It's going to be extremely difficult for her to sell the "War on Women" bullshit angle going forward. In fact it could very well backfire.
3. Hillary will have to answer to Bengazi on the main stage without her supporters to cover her ass.
4. Hillary will have to answer to Libya on the main stage without her supporters to cover her ass.
5. Trump is seen as being stronger on Terrorism. The issues in Paris and San Bernardino are all over getbig and social media.
6. Trump is seen as being stronger on Immigration. The issues of Germany are all over getbig and social media.
7. Hillary is more or less associated with the disastrous Obama presidency whose approval ratings continue to hang around the very low 40s.
8. Hillary is perceived as being the more PC candidate in a time when the country is quickly beginning to reject that sort of thinking.
9. The Arnold/Jesse Ventura effect - more people who don't usually vote will come out for Trump.
10. She is still possibly looking at investigation under the FBI for the email scandals.
I could literally go on and on including the fact that she is struggling to even win the Democratic nomination versus a Socialist.
The drinking issues.
The obvious health issues etc etc
It just amazes me that people continue to talk about Trump as if he has zero chance. Hillary is absolutely TERRIBLE and this is going to be highlighted 10 fold if she ever gets on stage in front of the whole world with a guy like Donald Trump.
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And Bernie would Destroy Trump easily.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
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And Bernie would Destroy Trump easily.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
I actually have a ton of respect for Bernie and the campaign he has run so far and the crowds he has been able to bring together. That being said, I don't know how much effect his motley crew of Stoners, Stragglers and Misfits would have come election day when you actually have to show up and be accountable.
Plus, at some point it's going to be "mano a mano" against Trump on stage and that greatly benefits Trump. Although I think Bernie certainly has much better stage presence than Hillary, Trump is on a whole 'nother level.
That being said I think he would stand a better chance against Trump than Hillary would.
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1. Communication skills aren't even close. Trump is likable even if you don't agree with his politics. Hillary is a complete phony and boring. Zero Energy.
2. Hillary is married to a creepy old pervert with a history of female abuse a mile long. Trump has and will continue to exploit that. Trump is beginning to poll better with women than men on the Republican side. It's going to be extremely difficult for her to sell the "War on Women" bullshit angle going forward. In fact it could very well backfire.
3. Hillary will have to answer to Bengazi on the main stage without her supporters to cover her ass.
4. Hillary will have to answer to Libya on the main stage without her supporters to cover her ass.
5. Trump is seen as being stronger on Terrorism. The issues in Paris and San Bernardino are all over getbig and social media.
6. Trump is seen as being stronger on Immigration. The issues of Germany are all over getbig and social media.
7. Hillary is more or less associated with the disastrous Obama presidency whose approval ratings continue to hang around the very low 40s.
8. Hillary is perceived as being the more PC candidate in a time when the country is quickly beginning to reject that sort of thinking.
9. The Arnold/Jesse Ventura effect - more people who don't usually vote will come out for Trump.
10. She is still possibly looking at investigation under the FBI for the email scandals.
I could literally go on and on including the fact that she is struggling to even win the Democratic nomination versus a Socialist.
The drinking issues.
The obvious health issues etc etc
It just amazes me that people continue to talk about Trump as if he has zero chance. Hillary is absolutely TERRIBLE and this is going to be highlighted 10 fold if she ever gets on stage in front of the whole world with a guy like Donald Trump.
Good points, although he'd have to be the nominee for this to happen, and I don't think he will be the nominee.
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If you think Sanders is winning anything you're smoking what he does...
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Good points, although he'd have to be the nominee for this to happen, and I don't think he will be the nominee.
JOHN MATRIX recently came out recently with what I felt was one of the best posts I've seen on here in some time. It really channels into a certain segment of the Republican(and Democrat to some degree) base that Trump has masterfully tapped into that so many other Republicans who worship the altar of Free Trade struggle with.
If i'm a betting man I would say 75% chance Trump takes the nomination.. 20% Cruz and 5% split between largely Christie or Rubio.
tariffs were the norm for most of America's history, and were eventually replaced with the Income Tax.
economic nationalism builds strong nations, global 'free' trade ultimately weakens nations and makes them lose their economic and industrial independence.
ending tariffs/economic nationalism in favor of 'free' trade and the Income Tax, in the interest of having most products be a little bit cheaper, is the nation-equivalent of selling one's soul
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JOHN MATRIX recently came out recently with what I felt was one of the best posts I've seen on here in some time. It really channels into a certain segment of the Republican(and Democrat to some degree) base that Trump has masterfully tapped into that so many other Republicans who worship the altar of Free Trade struggle with.
If i'm a betting man I would say 75% chance Trump takes the nomination.. 20% Cruz and 5% split between largely Christie or Rubio.
JM should write more on that, and more often. I'd really like to see it.
And to say it's somehow helpful to carry on as we do, in order to have faith we're getting "cheaper prices" on stuff, is outrageous. Our society is what's become cheap. Our landfills are crammed with shit from China, and our people are sitting on their asses.
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If you think Sanders is winning anything you're smoking what he does...
this. sad but true.
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JOHN MATRIX recently came out recently with what I felt was one of the best posts I've seen on here in some time. It really channels into a certain segment of the Republican(and Democrat to some degree) base that Trump has masterfully tapped into that so many other Republicans who worship the altar of Free Trade struggle with.
If i'm a betting man I would say 75% chance Trump takes the nomination.. 20% Cruz and 5% split between largely Christie or Rubio.
id recommend reading The Great Betrayal by Pat Buchanan for this subject specifically, it is a landmark work imo.
his writing has influenced my thinking more than anyone else, and he has been correct on virtually every major issue of our time...reading his books from 15-20 years ago is like reading prophecy ;D
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id recommend reading The Great Betrayal by Pat Buchanan for this subject specifically, it is a landmark work imo.
his writing has influenced my thinking more than anyone else, and he has been correct on virtually every major issue of our time...reading his books from 15-20 years ago is like reading prophecy ;D
Yeah Ive always liked Pat Buchanan. Any time I see him or Newt giving their thoughts on the politics of the day I'll pretty much always tune in and see what their opinion is.
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I used to like Pat Buchanan, but his views have become a terrible joke on his followers. He's so desperate to keep the fat checks coming in from media, that he has compromised himself. He's allowed himself to become a bitch.
He declines to argue against the surveillance state, for one thing, and that is unacceptable. We need people like him to publicly question these things (notice how no one does that in big media?), but he lost his nerve and he prefers to be Mr. Whitewash on the sidelines.
Fact is, though, he's getting very old and his days are numbered. So when he's arrived at his dying day, maybe he'll have regret over it.
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JOHN MATRIX recently came out recently with what I felt was one of the best posts I've seen on here in some time. It really channels into a certain segment of the Republican(and Democrat to some degree) base that Trump has masterfully tapped into that so many other Republicans who worship the altar of Free Trade struggle with.
If i'm a betting man I would say 75% chance Trump takes the nomination.. 20% Cruz and 5% split between largely Christie or Rubio.
I don't have percentages, but I say more likely than not he does not win the nomination, and if he does, he gets killed in the general election. Whatever I like about him is subsumed by his negatives. I have to believe there are a number of people out there like me who will be voting in the election.
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I don't have percentages, but I say more likely than not he does not win the nomination, and if he does, he gets killed in the general election. Whatever I like about him is subsumed by his negatives. I have to believe there are a number of people out there like me who will election be voting.
trump is a dick. granted, many people are okay with that. but in this day and age, i think someone proud of being a dick won't win a national election.
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People have been wrong about Trump the entire time though.
Why would it stop now?
I look at Trump and I see a guy with a ton of momentum and no real challengers.
Who knows, maybe I'm just missing something?
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trump is a dick. granted, many people are okay with that. but in this day and age, i think someone proud of being a dick won't win a national election.
why does this apply to TRUMP and not Hillary? for every person who hates TRUMP, there is someone who hates Hillary even more :D
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People have been wrong about Trump the entire time though.
Why would it stop now?
I look at Trump and I see a guy with a ton of momentum and no real challengers.
Who knows, maybe I'm just missing something?
Good points. The only thing I'd say is "missing" is the fact that he's suspiciously inconsistent, and that it continues to go unaddressed. He says he wants to become President, but his plans remain vague and highly questionable to say the least. He says he wants to handle the problem of our borders, but he won't mention busting the hosers making the profit from it.
How can anyone have good faith that he wants to fix the problems, when all he'll do is propose ridiculous ideas that we know aren't real solutions?
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why does this apply to TRUMP and not Hillary? for every person who hates TRUMP, there is someone who hates Hillary even more :D
X2. Everyone wants to say how horrible Trump is, but look at Hillary.
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People have been wrong about Trump the entire time though.
Why would it stop now?
I look at Trump and I see a guy with a ton of momentum and no real challengers.
Who knows, maybe I'm just missing something?
True. I certainly underestimated how long he would hang around and how he would do in the polls. Would never imagine someone could say the things he has, be a totally empty suit when it comes to specific policy positions, and have his poll numbers go up. Crazy.
I sure I hope I'm right about this all being a fiction. Really interested to see what happens when people actually start voting.
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Good points. The only thing I'd say is "missing" is the fact that he's suspiciously inconsistent, and that it continues to go unaddressed. He says he wants to become President, but his plans remain vague and highly questionable to say the least. He says he wants to handle the problem of our borders, but he won't mention busting the hosers making the profit from it.
How can anyone have good faith that he wants to fix the problems, when all he'll do is propose ridiculous ideas that we know aren't real solutions?
I doubt he gets a large portion of what he is saying actually accomplished but that doesn't matter when it comes to winning elections.
It's clear Trump is a quick learner and he is getting better and better as a candidate every week.
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I doubt he gets a large portion of what he is saying actually accomplished but that doesn't matter when it comes to winning elections.
It's clear Trump is a quick learner and he is getting better and better as a candidate every week.
I agree. But saying things like I WILL build a wall is a dangerous game, if you ask me.
But why don't you think he attacks that problem in the only meaningful way possible, by going after the trash who profit in business from illegal workers?
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Actually he said he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Still no word on how he intends to force a foreign country to do this.
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Actually he said he will build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Still no word on how he intends to force a foreign country to do this.
This is what I mean, about the believability issue. When people wonder why Jeb and the others are still puttering around, there's the answer.
And of course none of this addresses the fact that a "wall" may be a great thing, I don't know, but it solves very few real issues.
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Pat Buchanan says Donald Trump is the future of the Republican Party
By Chris Cillizza January 12
As I've watched and listened to Donald Trump's campaign pitch over the past few months, I am regularly reminded of the Republican presidential primary campaigns that Pat Buchanan ran in the 1990s. Buchanan ran as a "pitchfork populist" in those elections, an outsider fed up with the way both parties did their business in Washington. He also championed slowing immigration into the United States and voiced skepticism about international trade deals. Sound familiar? I reached out to Buchanan to talk about Trump's similarities and differences with him and the broader state of the Republican Party. Our conversation, conducted via email and edited only for grammar, is below.
FIX: Is Donald Trump the logical heir, issues-wise and tonally, to your presidential campaigns? Why or why not?
Buchanan: Trump is sui generis, unlike any candidate of recent times. And his success is attributable not only to his stance on issues, but to his persona, his defiance of political correctness, his relish of political combat with all comers, his "damn the torpedos" charging in frontally where others refuse to tread, as in that full retaliatory response to Hillary Clinton’s stab at him for having a “penchant for sexism.” Trump shut her down. These clashes have elated a party base that is sick unto death of politicians who never fight.
On building a fence to secure the border with Mexico, an end to trade deals like NAFTA, GATT, and [most favored nation status] for China, and staying out of unwise and unnecessary wars, these are the issues I ran on in 1992 and 1996 in the Republican primaries and as Reform Party candidate in 2000.
What Trump has today is conclusive evidence to prove that what some of us warned about in the 1990s has come to pass. From 2000 to 2010, the U.S. lost 55,000 factories and 6 million manufacturing jobs.
What Trump has in hand now to prosecute his case against the Bush Republicans and Clinton Democrats is hard proof these trade deals have de-industrialized America. If the GOP wants to know why it lost the Reagan Democrats, it is because the GOP exported their jobs to Mexico and China. The returns are in. And testifying to that truth is not only Trump’s attacks on those trade deals but the lack of a vigorous defense of them by Clinton Democrats or the GOP establishment. Who today celebrates NAFTA, as John McCain went to Canada to do in 2008?
FIX: What’s different about today’s political environment from the ones you ran for president in? Are people angrier now?
Buchanan: When I campaigned in North Carolina in 1992, I recall a fellow coming up to me at the airport, saying, “What are you doing in North Carolina, Pat? This is the State of Satisfaction.” Undeniably, there was a true depression in New Hampshire in 1992, and a real sense on the part of conservatives that President Bush had abandoned us and the Reagan legacy and Reagan agenda to cut deals with Congress to raise taxes, spend more on “kinder, gentler” programs, impose quotas, and declare America’s goal to become the creator of a “New World Order.”
What’s different today is that the returns are in, the results are known. Everyone sees clearly now the de-industrialization of America, the cost in blood and treasure from decade-long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the pervasive presence of illegal immigrants. What I saw at the San Diego border 25 years ago, everyone sees now on cable TV. And not just a few communities but almost every community is experiencing the social impact.
The anger and alienation that were building then have reached critical mass now, when you see Bernie Sanders running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire and Trump and Ted Cruz with a majority of Republican voters. Not to put too fine a point on it, the revolution is at hand.
FIX: You told the New York Times over the weekend that "the party is going to shift against trade and interventionism, and become more nationalist and tribal and more about protecting the border.” Do you think the party establishment will be part of that shift? And, if so, do they embrace the language and rhetoric of Trump?
Buchanan: There is a reason why President Obama and a Republican Congress are not taking up the Trans-Pacific Partnership this session. Trump and Sanders would lead the fight to kill it. And they would succeed, though, in the 1990s, we — Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, the AFL-CIO — failed to stop NAFTA. Then, not enough Americans saw the link between those trade deals, America’s surging trade deficits and the loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S.
In both parties, people are coming to recognize that the interests of transnational corporations collide and conflict with U.S. national interest and the interests of working Americans. What is good for General Motors is not good for America if General Motors is moving production out of the United States. As history shows, free trade is an ideology that is embraced by the intelligentsia of declining nations. Rising nations — Great Britain before 1850, America from 1860 to 1912, Bismarck’s Germany, postwar Japan, China today — practice economic nationalism.
The past is prologue here. While the country was divided both on Desert Storm to put the emir of Kuwait back on his throne and on invading Iraq and converting it into a model democracy for the Middle East, both Bush 41 and Bush 43, when the wars first began, rose to near 90 percent approval.
However, his victory in 1991 did not save President Bush in 1992, when he got only 37 percent. And when the fruits of America’s victory in Operation Iraqi Freedom turned sour, Republicans lost both houses of Congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008 — to an anti-war Democrat.
If there is a horrific attack on this country like 9/11, the American people will demand we go to war and settle accounts with those who did it. But America’s appetite for intervention, for nation building, for democracy crusades, is fully sated. Goodbye to all that.
Americans did not want to get involved in Georgia, Crimea or Ukraine. They do not want to send an army back to Iraq or into Syria. And Trump, in his emphasis on building up America, and letting these folks solve their problems, is in line with national thinking. The hour of the liberal interventionists like Hillary Clinton in Libya, like the neocons’ hour of power in the GOP, is over.
Yet Trump recognizes the inner hawk in Republicans, dating to the Cold War, when he says, about ISIS: “I will bomb the [expletive] out of them.”
Politically, he has this about right.
Will the Republican establishment walk on a Trump nomination, should he win? If it does, let it walk, as it did in 1964. What the Trump phenomenon represents, whether the Washington establishment is appalled or not, is the future. Take a look at Europe. Ethno-nationalism from Scotland to Catalonia to Flanders, and nationalism in the form of parties like the UKIP [U.K. Independence Party] in Britain and FN [National Front] in France, new governments in Warsaw and Budapest — this looks more like the future than Angela Merkel or the E.U.
A party will not survive that yields to an establishment ultimatum that — either you accept our choice, or we walk. The answer to that is: Go ahead and walk!
FIX: You are Kelly Ayotte, a Republican senator running for reelection in the swing state of New Hampshire in November. How do you deal with Trump as your party’s nominee? Run from him? To him? Ignore him?
Buchanan: If Trump wins the New Hampshire primary, Kelly Ayotte should congratulate him. And, if Trump wins the nomination, Ayotte should endorse him. If she does not, she will have no future in the national party.
Governors Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney and Bill Scranton, who refused to endorse [Barry] Goldwater in 1964, were ever after dead as national nominees. When Ronald Reagan rose to challenge Gerald Ford, President Ford had to put his appointed Vice President Rockefeller over the side to survive. The party base does not forgive or forget desertions under fire.
How closely should Ayotte campaign with Trump? She should wait until after the nomination to decide, if Trump were nominated. But if she has national ambitions, Ayotte will endorse the nominee.
FIX: Can Donald Trump win the presidency as the Republican nominee? If so, how? Be specific.
Buchanan: Demographically and electorally, the Democratic Party has the stronger hand. For Trump to win, I would hammer the illegal immigration issue, securing the border, renegotiating trade deals that have cost us factories, jobs and rising wages, and after securing the party base, go for victory in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, by campaigning against the Clinton trade policies that de-industrialized Middle America and on a new Trump trade agenda to re-industrialize America.
Bring the jobs back!
With Obama not running, there is no reason Trump, a builder and job creator, could not win more of the African American vote than McCain who lost it 24-1. There is no reason Trump cannot win more Hispanics, who respond to strong leaders and job creators. Romney lost over 70 percent of the Hispanic vote.
Given the situation in the country and the world, the issues for Trump are backing up the men in blue, building a wall to secure the border against illegal immigrants, cracking down on corporations that hire illegals rather than Americans, making America the strongest nation on Earth, but staying out of wars that are none of our business. And paying back 10 times over those who attack us — the Jacksonian stance.
Lastly, as Democrats and a hostile media will seek to make Trump the issue, the Republicans should, if she is nominated, make Hillary the issue. Do we really want to go back through all that again, or roll the dice on a better, brighter and surely more exciting future?
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Pat Buchanan says Donald Trump is the future of the Republican Party
By Chris Cillizza January 12
As I've watched and listened to Donald Trump's campaign pitch over the past few months, I am regularly reminded of the Republican presidential primary campaigns that Pat Buchanan ran in the 1990s. Buchanan ran as a "pitchfork populist" in those elections, an outsider fed up with the way both parties did their business in Washington. He also championed slowing immigration into the United States and voiced skepticism about international trade deals. Sound familiar? I reached out to Buchanan to talk about Trump's similarities and differences with him and the broader state of the Republican Party. Our conversation, conducted via email and edited only for grammar, is below.
FIX: Is Donald Trump the logical heir, issues-wise and tonally, to your presidential campaigns? Why or why not?
Buchanan: Trump is sui generis, unlike any candidate of recent times. And his success is attributable not only to his stance on issues, but to his persona, his defiance of political correctness, his relish of political combat with all comers, his "damn the torpedos" charging in frontally where others refuse to tread, as in that full retaliatory response to Hillary Clinton’s stab at him for having a “penchant for sexism.” Trump shut her down. These clashes have elated a party base that is sick unto death of politicians who never fight.
On building a fence to secure the border with Mexico, an end to trade deals like NAFTA, GATT, and [most favored nation status] for China, and staying out of unwise and unnecessary wars, these are the issues I ran on in 1992 and 1996 in the Republican primaries and as Reform Party candidate in 2000.
What Trump has today is conclusive evidence to prove that what some of us warned about in the 1990s has come to pass. From 2000 to 2010, the U.S. lost 55,000 factories and 6 million manufacturing jobs.
What Trump has in hand now to prosecute his case against the Bush Republicans and Clinton Democrats is hard proof these trade deals have de-industrialized America. If the GOP wants to know why it lost the Reagan Democrats, it is because the GOP exported their jobs to Mexico and China. The returns are in. And testifying to that truth is not only Trump’s attacks on those trade deals but the lack of a vigorous defense of them by Clinton Democrats or the GOP establishment. Who today celebrates NAFTA, as John McCain went to Canada to do in 2008?
FIX: What’s different about today’s political environment from the ones you ran for president in? Are people angrier now?
Buchanan: When I campaigned in North Carolina in 1992, I recall a fellow coming up to me at the airport, saying, “What are you doing in North Carolina, Pat? This is the State of Satisfaction.” Undeniably, there was a true depression in New Hampshire in 1992, and a real sense on the part of conservatives that President Bush had abandoned us and the Reagan legacy and Reagan agenda to cut deals with Congress to raise taxes, spend more on “kinder, gentler” programs, impose quotas, and declare America’s goal to become the creator of a “New World Order.”
What’s different today is that the returns are in, the results are known. Everyone sees clearly now the de-industrialization of America, the cost in blood and treasure from decade-long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the pervasive presence of illegal immigrants. What I saw at the San Diego border 25 years ago, everyone sees now on cable TV. And not just a few communities but almost every community is experiencing the social impact.
The anger and alienation that were building then have reached critical mass now, when you see Bernie Sanders running neck and neck with Hillary Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire and Trump and Ted Cruz with a majority of Republican voters. Not to put too fine a point on it, the revolution is at hand.
FIX: You told the New York Times over the weekend that "the party is going to shift against trade and interventionism, and become more nationalist and tribal and more about protecting the border.” Do you think the party establishment will be part of that shift? And, if so, do they embrace the language and rhetoric of Trump?
Buchanan: There is a reason why President Obama and a Republican Congress are not taking up the Trans-Pacific Partnership this session. Trump and Sanders would lead the fight to kill it. And they would succeed, though, in the 1990s, we — Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, the AFL-CIO — failed to stop NAFTA. Then, not enough Americans saw the link between those trade deals, America’s surging trade deficits and the loss of manufacturing jobs in the U.S.
In both parties, people are coming to recognize that the interests of transnational corporations collide and conflict with U.S. national interest and the interests of working Americans. What is good for General Motors is not good for America if General Motors is moving production out of the United States. As history shows, free trade is an ideology that is embraced by the intelligentsia of declining nations. Rising nations — Great Britain before 1850, America from 1860 to 1912, Bismarck’s Germany, postwar Japan, China today — practice economic nationalism.
The past is prologue here. While the country was divided both on Desert Storm to put the emir of Kuwait back on his throne and on invading Iraq and converting it into a model democracy for the Middle East, both Bush 41 and Bush 43, when the wars first began, rose to near 90 percent approval.
However, his victory in 1991 did not save President Bush in 1992, when he got only 37 percent. And when the fruits of America’s victory in Operation Iraqi Freedom turned sour, Republicans lost both houses of Congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008 — to an anti-war Democrat.
If there is a horrific attack on this country like 9/11, the American people will demand we go to war and settle accounts with those who did it. But America’s appetite for intervention, for nation building, for democracy crusades, is fully sated. Goodbye to all that.
Americans did not want to get involved in Georgia, Crimea or Ukraine. They do not want to send an army back to Iraq or into Syria. And Trump, in his emphasis on building up America, and letting these folks solve their problems, is in line with national thinking. The hour of the liberal interventionists like Hillary Clinton in Libya, like the neocons’ hour of power in the GOP, is over.
Yet Trump recognizes the inner hawk in Republicans, dating to the Cold War, when he says, about ISIS: “I will bomb the [expletive] out of them.”
Politically, he has this about right.
Will the Republican establishment walk on a Trump nomination, should he win? If it does, let it walk, as it did in 1964. What the Trump phenomenon represents, whether the Washington establishment is appalled or not, is the future. Take a look at Europe. Ethno-nationalism from Scotland to Catalonia to Flanders, and nationalism in the form of parties like the UKIP [U.K. Independence Party] in Britain and FN [National Front] in France, new governments in Warsaw and Budapest — this looks more like the future than Angela Merkel or the E.U.
A party will not survive that yields to an establishment ultimatum that — either you accept our choice, or we walk. The answer to that is: Go ahead and walk!
FIX: You are Kelly Ayotte, a Republican senator running for reelection in the swing state of New Hampshire in November. How do you deal with Trump as your party’s nominee? Run from him? To him? Ignore him?
Buchanan: If Trump wins the New Hampshire primary, Kelly Ayotte should congratulate him. And, if Trump wins the nomination, Ayotte should endorse him. If she does not, she will have no future in the national party.
Governors Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney and Bill Scranton, who refused to endorse [Barry] Goldwater in 1964, were ever after dead as national nominees. When Ronald Reagan rose to challenge Gerald Ford, President Ford had to put his appointed Vice President Rockefeller over the side to survive. The party base does not forgive or forget desertions under fire.
How closely should Ayotte campaign with Trump? She should wait until after the nomination to decide, if Trump were nominated. But if she has national ambitions, Ayotte will endorse the nominee.
FIX: Can Donald Trump win the presidency as the Republican nominee? If so, how? Be specific.
Buchanan: Demographically and electorally, the Democratic Party has the stronger hand. For Trump to win, I would hammer the illegal immigration issue, securing the border, renegotiating trade deals that have cost us factories, jobs and rising wages, and after securing the party base, go for victory in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, by campaigning against the Clinton trade policies that de-industrialized Middle America and on a new Trump trade agenda to re-industrialize America.
Bring the jobs back!
With Obama not running, there is no reason Trump, a builder and job creator, could not win more of the African American vote than McCain who lost it 24-1. There is no reason Trump cannot win more Hispanics, who respond to strong leaders and job creators. Romney lost over 70 percent of the Hispanic vote.
Given the situation in the country and the world, the issues for Trump are backing up the men in blue, building a wall to secure the border against illegal immigrants, cracking down on corporations that hire illegals rather than Americans, making America the strongest nation on Earth, but staying out of wars that are none of our business. And paying back 10 times over those who attack us — the Jacksonian stance.
Lastly, as Democrats and a hostile media will seek to make Trump the issue, the Republicans should, if she is nominated, make Hillary the issue. Do we really want to go back through all that again, or roll the dice on a better, brighter and surely more exciting future?
Stay away from the social issues (gay marriage, abortion). Bring in the blue collar democrats by bringing up trade issues while also courting the conservative base by taking a hardline immigration stance. National security, supporting the vets etc etc.
Now you talk about a winning formula that could potentially bring a ton of people to the ballots come Election Day.
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Some Cliffs from the Buchanan interview:
Buchanan: There is a reason why President Obama and a Republican Congress are not taking up the Trans-Pacific Partnership this session. Trump and Sanders would lead the fight to kill it.
In both parties, people are coming to recognize that the interests of transnational corporations collide and conflict with U.S. national interest and the interests of working Americans.
A claim that something is "good for America" is valid only when it can be interchanged with "good for the American worker". Otherwise, the saying has been hijacked and the person claiming it is ignorant at best, or a fucking liar.
Americans did not want to get involved in Georgia, Crimea or Ukraine. They do not want to send an army back to Iraq or into Syria. And Trump, in his emphasis on building up America, and letting these folks solve their problems, is in line with national thinking. The hour of the liberal interventionists like Hillary Clinton in Libya, like the neocons’ hour of power in the GOP, is over.
Lastly, as Democrats and a hostile media will seek to make Trump the issue, the Republicans should, if she is nominated, make Hillary the issue.
Hillary and Bill were the biggest pushers for NAFTA, have never met a "free trade" agreement they didn't like, and Hillary referred to the latest scam "agreement" as "Gold Standard". This is with full knowledge of the damage and misery these types of agreements have caused to good people all over this world.
At the same time, she pretends to be for the middle-class, and her ignorant followers believe her. So those who think Trump is "dangerous" need to have a close look at her. With the possible exception of Bush, she is the most dangerous person in this race.
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And Bernie would Destroy Trump easily.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
BRING IT ON
I PREFER A STRAIGHT FIGHT TO ALL THIS SNEAKIN AROUND!
you realize fo course that sanders would get 0 votes and it wold be worse than reagain mondale right?
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Stay away from the social issues (gay marriage, abortion). Bring in the blue collar democrats by bringing up trade issues while also courting the conservative base by taking a hardline immigration stance. National security, supporting the vets etc etc.
Now you talk about a winning formula that could potentially bring a ton of people to the ballots come Election Day.
I agree.
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and x2 on him staying out of "gay issues"
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Trump secures the nomination then goes Hispanic for VP, preferably female(as stated by another poster on here)
He's already moved to the left on health care..."We won't be allowing people to die in the streets"
He's to the left of her on Trade. Arguably to the left of her on his stance in 2003 concerning the Iraq war. If the press/moderator comes back and brings up his Howard Stern 2002 interview and he'll quickly dismiss it in a way only Trump can pull off then go right back and attack Hillary for her support of the war.
She won't be able to hammer very hard on him concerning women's issues because he counters with the "Bill Clinton is an incredible abuser of women" card plus he has already stated he is supportive of Planned Parenthood in all that they do minus the abortion issue. He has employed and placed women in positions of power over the past 30 years in the real estate business. Ivanka is a fantastic speaker and could lend some support in this area as well.
He is either even with or possibly to the left of her on his recent statement of taxing the wealthy. Plus he will sell that talking point far better than her.
His voter turnout in the primary blows away that of hers. He has already stated he will prosecute her as President which throws some red meat to the Bernie supporters who will feel they've been screwed in the Democrat process.
He had the highest percentage of Latinos vote for him in Nevada. Reporters say his crowds are the most diverse(admittedly this isn't saying too much considering he is a Republican).
That's before even taking stage performance and mic skills into account in which it won't even be close.
Better come to grips, folks...this guy could very well be up there being sworn in come early 2017.
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He had 59 latino's vote for him.....but anyway I think he can go after her but the media will turn on him. I think the Dems are well prepared for Trump. I don't think he lays out cases to support him beyond making America great. What is he gonna do..or more correctly how?
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He had 59 latino's vote for him.....but anyway I think he can go after her but the media will turn on him. I think the Dems are well prepared for Trump. I don't think he lays out cases to support him beyond making America great. What is he gonna do..or more correctly how?
Yep. Context is everything.
Also, the number of non-Trump votes so far is enormous. I see this headed towards either a win outright (likely by Rubio) or a brokered convention.
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Yep. Context is everything.
Also, the number of non-Trump votes so far is enormous. I see this headed towards either a win outright (likely by Rubio) or a brokered convention.
after 4 states, trump has way more votes than mccain or romney had.
keep dreaming of an outright rubio win. Trump may win every state on super tuesday. lol. silly repubs, living in a dream world.
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I see this headed towards either a win outright (likely by Rubio) or a brokered convention.
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I love Calvin & Hobbes. :) What is your prediction?
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He had 59 latino's vote for him.....but anyway I think he can go after her but the media will turn on him. I think the Dems are well prepared for Trump. I don't think he lays out cases to support him beyond making America great. What is he gonna do..or more correctly how?
Big deal, the people hate the media. That is really one of the main reasons he has had so much success despite all his quirks.
With The Honorable Justice Scalia's(God rest his soul) passing are you really going to stay home and potentially allow her to appoint a Liberal to replace him for the next 40 years?
Even I made comments about being unable to vote for Jeb but in all seriousness you are talking about a Liberal Supreme Court and a potential abolishing or at least major gutting of the Second Amendment as we know it.
It's time to start putting hurt feelings aside and coalesce as a party behind the nominee(whoever that ends up being).
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And Bernie would Destroy Trump easily.
;)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
But what real chance of getting delegates does Bernie have? Would love to hear your idea how Bernie becomes the nominee.
As it stands he's just there to keep the real leftist wackos and kids from going Green Party, etc.
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What is your prediction?
Prediction: Trump will be the republican nominee
You know I support Cruz, but one has to be honest, Trump is in the lead in most of the State Polls, even Rubio's home state of Florida.
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Prediction: Trump will be the republican nominee
You know I support Cruz, but one has to be honest, Trump is in the lead in most of the State Polls, even Rubio's home state of Florida.
Trump is leading in most states, Rubio leading in some, Cruz in Texas, and that's about it. Because these are not winner take all states so far, they will be sharing delegates through Super Tuesday. Kasich and Carson should be gone after Super Tuesday.
The only point where we could get to inevitability is the winner take all states, and I believe even some of those require a percentage north of 50 percent for the winner to get all of the delegates.
They are in for a long fight, unless it becomes a two-person race, in which case Trump probably gets crushed.
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Trump is leading in most states, Rubio leading in some, Cruz in Texas, and that's about it. Because these are not winner take all states so far, they will be sharing delegates through Super Tuesday. Kasich and Carson should be gone after Super Tuesday.
The only point where we could get to inevitability is the winner take all states, and I believe even some of those require a percentage north of 50 percent for the winner to get all of the delegates.
They are in for a long fight, unless it becomes a two-person race, in which case Trump probably gets crushed.
Trump will win.
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1. Communication skills aren't even close. Trump is likable even if you don't agree with his politics. Hillary is a complete phony and boring. Zero Energy.
Uuuhh….no…
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Trump will win.
We shall see.
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Trump is likable even if you don't agree with his politics.
Uuuhh….no…
x 2. His negative numbers are incredibly high.
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We shall see.
marco roboto is in 3rd place in his home state, the people who know him best dont care for him anymore.
Wake up Beach Bum and face the truth: Trump will be the nominee.
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x 2. His negative numbers are incredibly high.
Dos Equis I love you bro but Trump will be the nominee.
He wraps it up for Tuesday if he beats Cruz in Texas(I give him a 30% shot to do so).
Worst case scenario he loses Texas to Cruz single digits but still closes it out March 15.
This race is OVER fellas.
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Dos Equis I love you bro but Trump will be the nominee.
He wraps it up for Tuesday if he beats Cruz in Texas(I give him a 30% shot to do so).
Worst case scenario he loses Texas to Cruz single digits but still closes it out March 15.
This race is OVER fellas.
Maybe I'm in denial. lol I refuse to believe this will happen.
Seriously, though, I'm looking at the numbers and history and I don't see Trump running away with this. Both Clinton and Reagan had very slow starts, failing to win about the first 5 or 6 primaries or so. If Trump was getting over 50 percent, not sharing delegates, and didn't have some of the highest negative numbers in history, I'd have a different viewpoint.
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This [releasing their taxes] will give us a real sense of whether these people are on the up and up and whether they've been telling us things about themselves that are true or not," Romney said. "Frankly, I think we have good reason to believe that there’s a bombshell in Donald Trump’s taxes."
“What do you mean?” Cavuto asked.
"I think there's something there," Romney said. "Either he's not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn’t been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay, or perhaps he hasn’t been giving money to the vets or to the disabled like he’s been telling us he’s been doing, and the reason that I think there's a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says, well, we're working on it."
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This [releasing their taxes] will give us a real sense of whether these people are on the up and up and whether they've been telling us things about themselves that are true or not," Romney said. "Frankly, I think we have good reason to believe that there’s a bombshell in Donald Trump’s taxes."
“What do you mean?” Cavuto asked.
"I think there's something there," Romney said. "Either he's not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn’t been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay, or perhaps he hasn’t been giving money to the vets or to the disabled like he’s been telling us he’s been doing, and the reason that I think there's a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says, well, we're working on it."
Interesting.
That said, pretty disappointing thing for Romney to say after the way he was unfairly crucified about his taxes and offshore accounts.
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This [releasing their taxes] will give us a real sense of whether these people are on the up and up and whether they've been telling us things about themselves that are true or not," Romney said. "Frankly, I think we have good reason to believe that there’s a bombshell in Donald Trump’s taxes."
“What do you mean?” Cavuto asked.
"I think there's something there," Romney said. "Either he's not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or he hasn’t been paying the kind of taxes we would expect him to pay, or perhaps he hasn’t been giving money to the vets or to the disabled like he’s been telling us he’s been doing, and the reason that I think there's a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says, well, we're working on it."
Wow! I didn't know about this one.
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He also blasted Trump's "weaving and delay" when asked about the release of his tax returns. "I think the last time he was asked about his taxes he said, 'Well, it's going to be a month,'" Romney said. "Look, people have a right to know if there's a problem in those taxes before they decide."
Trump, in a series of tweets Wednesday evening, called Romney a "fool" and said he lost a winnable race against President Obama in 2012.
"Mitt Romney, who totally blew an election that should have been won and whose tax returns made him look like a fool, is now playing tough guy," one tweet read.
"When Mitt Romney asked me for my endorsement last time around, he was so awkward and goofy that we all should have known he could not win!" Trump continued.
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x 2. His negative numbers are incredibly high.
Even in the 1980's, when he was young and not very political,...he was Despised by all who had dealings with him...I didn't say friends because he doesn't have any...not really.
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Even in the 1980's, when he was young and not very political,...he was Despised by all who had dealings with him...I didn't say friends because he doesn't have any...not really.
I've heard different.
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Email and Bhengazi
done
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Prediction: Trump will be the republican nominee
You know I support Cruz, but one has to be honest, Trump is in the lead in most of the State Polls, even Rubio's home state of Florida.
THIS x 10.
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Trump is leading in most states, Rubio leading in some, Cruz in Texas, and that's about it. Because these are not winner take all states so far, they will be sharing delegates through Super Tuesday. Kasich and Carson should be gone after Super Tuesday.
The only point where we could get to inevitability is the winner take all states, and I believe even some of those require a percentage north of 50 percent for the winner to get all of the delegates.
They are in for a long fight, unless it becomes a two-person race, in which case Trump probably gets crushed.
Trump is JUST good enough to get the nomination.
Trump has Cruz/Rubio splitting enough vote that he keeps winning.
People who were outraged by Trump 3 months ago, well, they're just plain used to it now, and okay with it.
And Trump is just so doggone entertaining... when he stepped in the shit with the POW call, I was happy he likely may have crossed the line, but a little sad that politics would be boring now. People just want to watch this slow mo train wreck.
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But what real chance of getting delegates does Bernie have? Would love to hear your idea how Bernie becomes the nominee.
As it stands he's just there to keep the real leftist wackos and kids from going Green Party, etc.
Hard questions that even TA's gimmicks won't reply to....
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But what real chance of getting delegates does Bernie have? Would love to hear your idea how Bernie becomes the nominee.
As it stands he's just there to keep the real leftist wackos and kids from going Green Party, etc.
Wins the majority of pledged delegates, then the unpledged back him. Same way they did Obama. Nearly all of them were for Hillary until Obama started winning. Bernie is currently doing better than Obama was at this point.
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There is no way to stop him because Bill Clinton good economy was a lie, bill had a free market unregualted called the nt invented during hsi time, and still handed recession to next guy, and ross perot is onyl reason clinton got in
obama is president because of jerry ryan actress sueed her husband 30 days before senate election so obama beccame senator
obama cheated to win 2012 is well documented
communism has never worked
People are sick fo the BS and MR TRUMP will nuek hitlery
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Wins the majority of pledged delegates, then the unpledged back him. Same way they did Obama. Nearly all of them were for Hillary until Obama started winning. Bernie is currently doing better than Obama was at this point.
She was winning but Obama was saved by Ted Kennedy's endorsement. No Teddy this time. Bernie is not Obama this time around. Trump is.
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Just for a little reminder...
King James Bible open to his favorite verse Exodus 21:24(eye for an eye) + Donald J. Trump's right hand up in the air = Noon Friday January 20, 2017
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Just for a little reminder...
King James Bible open to his favorite verse Exodus 21:24(eye for an eye) + Donald J. Trump's right hand up in the air = Noon Friday January 20, 2017
I think you're forgetting that Trump is really just a plant working with the sole intention of helping Hillary to become POTUS. Even though EVERYONE thought his candidacy was a joke at the beginning that cunning puppet master Bill Clinton somehow knew that Trump would become the immediate and dominant front runner thereby clearing the deck of any credible competition for Hillary in the general election. How will you feel when you ultimately find out that Trump is literally the biggest Hillary supporter on the planet, investing thousands of hours of his time and lending his campaign millions of dollars (and also giving up his TV show) just to help Hilary. Of course, Hillary has publicly repudiated him and when Trumps rabid followers find out his true intentions he will never be able to go out in public again, but that's just how much he really loves Hillary and isn't this selfless act of devotion totally consistent with the person we all know Trump to be?
240 believes this and he claims George Will believes it too
What more proof do you need than George Will? Shouldn't we all believe everything that he believes at all times...no matter how utterly fucking insane.
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Trump has done EVERYTHING a Dem plant would do.
His attacks on hilary have been mostly about her being cheated on. He's purposely went at women very hard, and the women vote decides every election, as you know.
Trump has neutered many really good leaders of the republican party, they aren't recovering. Jeb is finished. Rubio looks like a litle bitch. Lyin' Ted will be with him for 30 years. He shit on romney, mccain, dubya, not an ounce of respect. His entire adult life, until 2008, he was a democrat, and he's shown that with his disrespect toward repub party elders.
He's done everything he would, so far, as a dem plant. If he does something to really obviously throw the election, and hilary wins 40 states, then I'll be right. If he creams her, then I'm wrong.
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Trump has done EVERYTHING a Dem plant would do.
His attacks on hilary have been mostly about her being cheated on. He's purposely went at women very hard, and the women vote decides every election, as you know.
Trump has neutered many really good leaders of the republican party, they aren't recovering. Jeb is finished. Rubio looks like a litle bitch. Lyin' Ted will be with him for 30 years. He shit on romney, mccain, dubya, not an ounce of respect. His entire adult life, until 2008, he was a democrat, and he's shown that with his disrespect toward repub party elders.
He's done everything he would, so far, as a dem plant. If he does something to really obviously throw the election, and hilary wins 40 states, then I'll be right. If he creams her, then I'm wrong.
Are you predicting right now that Hillary wins 40 states?
Have some courage for once in your life and take a stand.
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Trump has done EVERYTHING a Dem plant would do.
His attacks on hilary have been mostly about her being cheated on. He's purposely went at women very hard, and the women vote decides every election, as you know.
Trump has neutered many really good leaders of the republican party, they aren't recovering. Jeb is finished. Rubio looks like a litle bitch. Lyin' Ted will be with him for 30 years. He shit on romney, mccain, dubya, not an ounce of respect. His entire adult life, until 2008, he was a democrat, and he's shown that with his disrespect toward repub party elders.
He's done everything he would, so far, as a dem plant. If he does something to really obviously throw the election, and hilary wins 40 states, then I'll be right. If he creams her, then I'm wrong.
Trump has done everything Trump would do if Trump wanted Trump to win
Everyone other than you and George Will can see this and I'm not even sure George Will is with you anymore
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No, I'd love to believe he's in it to win, but that's becoming increasingly difficult.
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No, I'd love to believe he's in it to win, but that's becoming increasingly difficult.
Yeah I guess winning all those primaries makes it pretty obvious he's not serious about winning.
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Yeah I guess winning all those primaries makes it pretty obvious he's not serious about winning.
But you can't deny that happened against all conventional wisdom, that's the thing.
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No, I'd love to believe he's in it to win, but that's becoming increasingly difficult.
Paint me a scenario where he backs out in May after securing a knockout win 1237+ delegates, 6 months from the general election.
Of course he is in it to win it.
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But you can't deny that happened against all conventional wisdom, that's the thing.
So what?
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So what?
If his pretend 'plan' at this point is to win by a nearly 'male-only' vote, which would mean male democrats included, it shows what he's up to.
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If his pretend 'plan' at this point is to win by a nearly 'male-only' vote, which would mean male democrats included, it shows what he's up to.
You think Ted would have a better success rate among women?
I'm as big a Cruz fan as anyone but that guy is like the anti-poon.
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You think Ted would have a better success rate among women?
I'm as big a Cruz fan as anyone but that guy is like the anti-poon.
(https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.Ma8df6129a36e1353165017ab78245dbcH1&pid=15.1&P=0&w=232&h=155)
;D Lmao...no, I don't think he'd do much better. He's one of the people we have to "thank" for such an insane season.
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I'll tell you, it scares the hell out of me to think of Hillary getting into the WH. We will officially have GWB Admin III.
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If his pretend 'plan' at this point is to win by a nearly 'male-only' vote, which would mean male democrats included, it shows what he's up to.
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Your answer makes no sense
Conventional wisdom didn't predict Trump's success....thus proving his campaign is really a joke (or a 240 believes a gimmick designed to help Hillary)
I'm not seeing it
Please connect the dots
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;D Lmao...no, I don't think he'd do much better. He's one of the people we have to "thank" for such an insane season.
I'm holding out just as much as anyone for a modern day crisp, svelte version of 1980 Ronald Reagan to show up but I just don't think he's there.
Pickins are slim this year and I think The Don is best we got. :-\
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Your answer makes no sense
Conventional wisdom didn't predict Trump's success....thus proving his campaign is really a joke (or a 240 believes a gimmick designed to help Hillary)
I'm not seeing it
Please connect the dots
It means that if you base your campaign on insulting women, it could still make you the GOP winner, but it can only lend itself to an ass-stomping in the general election.
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It means that if you base your campaign on insulting women, it could still make you the GOP winner, but it can only lend itself to an ass-stomping in the general election.
That doesn't prove or even lend credence to the claim that Trump is not serious.
Cruz is just as toxic as Trump in a general election so I guess his campaign is also a goof meant to secretly aid Hillary
Also, isn't that projected ass stomping more "conventional wisdom"?
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I'm holding out just as much as anyone for a modern day crisp, svelte version of 1980 Ronald Reagan to show up but I just don't think he's there.
Pickins are slim this year and I think The Don is best we got. :-\
Yep, he's our only chance and he knows it. That's it, right there: he knows it, now. So he is either going to make us very happy or we will want to chase him off the planet, with pitchforks. He needs to start acting right, or we are going to be fucked.
But no questioning it, now, whether he knows it's all on him. He knows.
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That doesn't prove or even lend credence to the claim that Trump is not serious.
Cruz is just as toxic as Trump in a general election so I guess his campaign is also a good meant to secretly aid Hillary
Also, isn't that projected ass stomping more "conventional wisdom"?
The fact we have about half women in our population is a much greater piece of wisdom than all else combined, so that's where the concern is.
And Cruz IMO stayed within the bounds of expectation. He's a liar and everything else, but unfortunately we've come to expect those things.
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The fact we have about half women in our population is a much greater piece of wisdom than all else combined, so that's where the concern is.
And Cruz IMO stayed within the bounds of expectation. He's a liar and everything else, but unfortunately we've come to expect those things.
I think you're forgetting that Trump says women love him
Also Republicans have never catered to women's issues so Trump is par for the course.
Suggesting he is pissing off women and that is proof his candidacy is a joke makes no sense.
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I think you're forgetting that Trump says women love him
Also Republicans have never catered to women's issues so Trump is par for the course.
Suggesting he is pissing off women and that is proof his candidacy is a joke makes no sense.
Yes, we'll see. I hope he channels himself well from this point on. Because maybe not even he knows how pissed many will be, if it appears he's fucking about when everything is on the line. Game is over, and it's time to get real.
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Yes, we'll see. I hope he channels himself well from this point on. Because maybe not even he knows how pissed many will be, if it appears he's fucking about when everything is on the line. Game is over, and it's time to get real.
Maybe he's a delusional malignant narcissist...just exactly how he appears to be
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Maybe he's a delusional malignant narcissist...just exactly how he appears to be
Yes, I agree. But he's not a child. He's had more than enough experience to know what's up.
And as far as the position he's in, right now, there's absolutely no way he doesn't realize that the product of his behavior so-far can only lead to one thing: Madame President. That's where the suspicions come from.
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Yes, I agree. But he's not a child. He's had more than enough experience to know what's up.
And as far as the position he's in, right now, there's absolutely no way he doesn't realize that the product of his behavior so-far can only lead to one thing: Madame President. That's where the suspicions come from.
His behavior, criticized by almost everyone since Day 1 of his campaign, has allowed him to destroy everyone other candidate in his party. He has been the dominant Republican candidate since Day 1 (think back to 2012 when every nutbag was the front runner for a few weeks)
Why should his "experience" lead to him to believe he can't beat Hillary by continuing to do more of what has worked so far?
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Are you predicting right now that Hillary wins 40 states?
Have some courage for once in your life and take a stand.
I predicted minute 1 that it'd be hilary vs trump. And I predicted minute one that ONE OF THEM would win by 40 states.
I haven't made my final prediction yet, I'll do that this summer.
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His behavior, criticized by almost everyone since Day 1 of his campaign, has allowed him to destroy everyone other candidate in his party. He has been the dominant Republican candidate since Day 1 (think back to 2012 when every nutbag was the front runner for a few weeks)
Why should his "experience" lead to him to believe he can't beat Hillary by continuing to do more of what has worked so far?
That's your answer. Because he knows that he's only needed to appeal to a certain group of voters up to this point.
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That's your answer. Because he knows that he's only needed to appeal to a certain group of voters up to this point.
So what
Do you think he believes his authentic self won't appeal to the masses?
I don't get that impression from him
Do you think Cruz is going to stop being a batshit crazy fundies douche bag if be somehow becomes the nominee?
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in the general election - yes, I believe cruz would stop talking about forced abortions and other extreme topics, and focus on jobs and national security, issues that most people kinda agree with.
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So what
Do you think he believes his authentic self won't appeal to the masses?
I don't get that impression from him
Do you think Cruz is going to stop being a batshit crazy fundies douche bag if be somehow becomes the nominee?
He knows when he angers someone and what result to expect from it, whether it be an overall positive or negative for his stated cause.
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in the general election - yes, I believe cruz would stop talking about forced abortions and other extreme topics, and focus on jobs and national security, issues that most people kinda agree with.
You're fucking high if you think Cruz would change his rhetoric.
He truly believes that is what America wants
Also how many times have you opined on this board that Repubs need to nominate a hard right winger to draw out that silent/imaginary majority of far right wing voters who would otherwise stay home.
Now you're saying Cruz would/should act like Romney in order to win?
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I predicted minute 1 that it'd be hilary vs trump. And I predicted minute one that ONE OF THEM would win by 40 states.
I haven't made my final prediction yet, I'll do that this summer.
How does that square with your belief that Trump was "planted" by Bill Clinton to help Hillary win?
How does Trump winning 40 States help Hillary win?
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You're fucking high if you think Cruz would change his rhetoric.
He truly believes that is what America wants
Also how many times have you opined on this board that Repubs need to nominate a hard right winger to draw out that silent/imaginary majority of far right wing voters who would otherwise stay home.
Now you're saying Cruz would/should act like Romney in order to win?
ROmney acted like a far-right conservative in order to get the nomination. bragged about being so so conservative, had the audacity to call others a liberal lol. Once he reached the general election, he went moderate. When he did one time speak as a far-right candidate (with the hidden camera at that dinner about 47%), it sank him.
same with obama, being the liberal's liberal to get the 2008 nomination, then becoming the generic hope/change candidate to win swing voters that did support Bush earlier.
You don't think every candidate in this race will swing center to appeal to the middle 6% that decide every election? Um, 47% is already voting repub, and 47% is already voting dem. The middles chose Reagan, chose CLinton, chose bush, and chose obama.
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ROmney acted like a far-right conservative in order to get the nomination. bragged about being so so conservative, had the audacity to call others a liberal lol. Once he reached the general election, he went moderate. When he did one time speak as a far-right candidate (with the hidden camera at that dinner about 47%), it sank him.
same with obama, being the liberal's liberal to get the 2008 nomination, then becoming the generic hope/change candidate to win swing voters that did support Bush earlier.
You don't think every candidate in this race will swing center to appeal to the middle 6% that decide every election? Um, 47% is already voting repub, and 47% is already voting dem. The middles chose Reagan, chose CLinton, chose bush, and chose obama.
And how many times have you said on this board that the RINO strategy is a loser and the Rebubs can only win by running a hard right wing douche like Cruz (and how many times have I told you that is nuts)
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I predicted minute 1 that it'd be hilary vs trump. And I predicted minute one that ONE OF THEM would win by 40 states.
I haven't made my final prediction yet, I'll do that this summer.
I guess Trump winning 40 states in the general election is just what you would expect a Democratic plant to do.
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I predicted minute 1 that it'd be hilary vs trump. And I predicted minute one that ONE OF THEM would win by 40 states.
I haven't made my final prediction yet, I'll do that this summer.
I'm finally starting to understand your "plant" theory now.
Trump wins the general election then he tells his VP "You're Fired".
Then he appoints Hillary VP and then he resigns
It finally all makes sense.
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No, to be fair to 240, it's possible Trump will experience some reflection that he hadn't before. He is in rare space, now.
So he'd better get his shit in gear.
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No, to be fair to 240, it's possible Trump will experience some reflection that he hadn't before. He is in rare space, now.
So he'd better get his shit in gear.
He is already right within the margin of error in a head to head matchup with Hillary.
And that's before even getting on stage.
Americans love theatrics and performances and Trump is incredible while Hillary is absolutely terrible.
Trump is going to be just fine once he takes the narrative out of the media and writes his own by exposing Hillary's flaws in a one on one matchup in front of hundreds of millions of people.
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Trump is going to be just fine once he takes the narrative out of the media and writes his own by exposing Hillary's flaws in a one on one matchup in front of hundreds of millions of people.
Hilary is shady, corrupt... but most would agree she'd be a competent president. Obama II, of course, but she isn't going to drive the train off a cliff. Most of us can already predict a Clinton presidency, it'll be just like the obama presidency.
Now, a trump presidency is a BIG question mark. He's mocking saudi princes for spending daddy's money (ironic). He's shitting on GER Merkel because she beat him in a Time Mag poll. He's attacking world leaders on twitter out of boredom... and those are powerful people that don't forget, capable of screwing us in a million little ways.
More importantly - I think most of us agree Trump has an issue with self-control. He cannot stop himself at times. He reacts emotionally on social media late at night, and is very inconsistent on a lot of things.
Trump will be WAY better in debates and interviews than Hilary... but as far as fcking controlling himself... Can he do it? Will he magically go from being a smart-ass, loud-mouth for 69 years, into a dignified Reagan overnight? Doubt it...
(This doesn't even get into his very thin understanding of foreign policy and erratic speech this week)
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Hilary is shady, corrupt... but most would agree she'd be a competent president. Obama II, of course, but she isn't going to drive the train off a cliff. Most of us can already predict a Clinton presidency, it'll be just like the obama presidency.
Now, a trump presidency is a BIG question mark. He's mocking saudi princes for spending daddy's money (ironic). He's shitting on GER Merkel because she beat him in a Time Mag poll. He's attacking world leaders on twitter out of boredom... and those are powerful people that don't forget, capable of screwing us in a million little ways.
More importantly - I think most of us agree Trump has an issue with self-control. He cannot stop himself at times. He reacts emotionally on social media late at night, and is very inconsistent on a lot of things.
Trump will be WAY better in debates and interviews than Hilary... but as far as fcking controlling himself... Can he do it? Will he magically go from being a smart-ass, loud-mouth for 69 years, into a dignified Reagan overnight? Doubt it...
(This doesn't even get into his very thin understanding of foreign policy and erratic speech this week)
Completely agree but you have to admit he has looked pretty crisp and presidential here lately after conceding to allow himself to read off the teleprompter.
He butchered a few words here and there but all in all I think it really helped his presentation rather than just going into crazy ass, off-the-cuff wing it mode.
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Completely agree but you have to admit he has looked pretty crisp and presidential here lately after conceding to allow himself to read off the teleprompter.
He butchered a few words here and there but all in all I think it really helped his presentation rather than just going into crazy ass, off-the-cuff wing it mode.
I'm not sure people will trade smooth, slick, witty... for competent.
Even when reading a prepared speech about foreign policy, he contradicted himself over and over, and it was STILL non-specific, written in vague terms about kicking everyone's ass and everyone loving us. No specifics, and those in his own party agree with it. The weak ones are jumping on the bandwagon as he seems inevitable, but voters...
I think many will say "I love trump, he's funny and witty and Hilary looks like shit... BUT I don't think he is really a good fit for the POTUS job".
I'm sure there are witty, hilarious, good looking accountants at age 22, right outta college... but the fat bald dude with ear hair at 57 years old is probably going to do a much better job.
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I'm not sure people will trade smooth, slick, witty... for competent.
Even when reading a prepared speech about foreign policy, he contradicted himself over and over, and it was STILL non-specific, written in vague terms about kicking everyone's ass and everyone loving us. No specifics, and those in his own party agree with it. The weak ones are jumping on the bandwagon as he seems inevitable, but voters...
I think many will say "I love trump, he's funny and witty and Hilary looks like shit... BUT I don't think he is really a good fit for the POTUS job".
I'm sure there are witty, hilarious, good looking accountants at age 22, right outta college... but the fat bald dude with ear hair at 57 years old is probably going to do a much better job.
Trump has been down for months now but the momentum is swinging in his favor. 38% to 38% today in a poll. Dead even with all the momentum at his back.
He has relegated himself to the teleprompter, obviously on the good advice of handlers and although he sounds like a 5th grader who butchers the occasional word while reading in front of the class, it is May and as a quick learner he will have this part of the process down pat by August. His delivery will have improved by leaps and bounds.
Trump is taking an obvious move to center. Working to heal the wounds caused by a bloody nomination battle by softening the tone.
I don't know that Trump will ever be the guy "you wanna have a beer with" ala George W. but he can at least be the fun, character type boss who can give you decent conversation on a business trip versus Hillary who is the mean bitch you are deathly afraid to knock on the door when you hit a ball into her back yard as a kid. Or as an adult, that next door neighbor you just try to avoid in general.
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trump will have to debate.
when he has to come up with actual solutions to real-world scenarios, a few things will happen.
He ends every Q after 30 seconds, leaving another minute on the table.
He rambles using catch phrases of greatness and winning.
He tries to actually answer, resulting in serious contradictions
Most of these things result in him being exposed.
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Cruz is far more dangerous than Trump. Cruz believes in every racist crazy nutbag thing that comes out of Trumps mouth and then some.
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Bump :D
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Yeah, well. Will Trump take it as a sign to step-up the stupid? He owes us, big, that mutherfucker.
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Yeah, well. Will Trump take it as a sign to step-up the stupid? He owes us, big, that mutherfucker.
This DNC is going to be VERY interesting.
I think the backlash is just beginning to step up.
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This DNC is going to be VERY interesting.
I think the backlash is just beginning to step up.
I hope the public wads the whole thing up to smash in the face of the DNC. They deserve what's coming to them.
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I hope the public wads the whole thing up to smash in the face of the DNC. They deserve what's coming to them.
Have you seen the protestors in Philly?
These people are PISSED!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump begins to flirt with a double digit lead in the coming weeks.
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Have you seen the protestors in Philly?
These people are PISSED!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump begins to flirt with a double digit lead in the coming weeks.
I'm only now becoming aware of these recent developments. I had lost all faith in the general public and stopped paying attention, but now there's a spark of hope again. (I think.)
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I'm only now becoming aware of these recent developments. I had lost all faith in the general public and stopped paying attention, but now there's a spark of hope again. (I think.)
Al Gore isn't even showing up now. Debbie Wasserman Shultz was booed off stage in Florida and has now had her gavel taken away from her. Bernie was booed when announcing that "we need to accept this reality"
The reality of what, Bernie? Being quiet an taking it up the ass in the face of outright corruption??
Hoping these Bernie folks raise big time hell over the next few days and weeks.
Oh and you know Trump will be in the background fanning the flames as only he can. 8)
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Al Gore isn't even showing up now. Debbie Wasserman Shultz was booed off stage in Florida and has now had her gavel taken away from her. Bernie was booed when announcing that "we need to accept this reality"
The reality of what, Bernie? Being quiet an taking it up the ass in the face of outright corruption??
Hoping these Bernie folks raise big time hell over the next few days and weeks.
Oh and you know Trump will be in the background fanning the flames as only he can. 8)
Bernie is a pussy
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Al Gore isn't even showing up now. Debbie Wasserman Shultz was booed off stage in Florida and has now had her gavel taken away from her. Bernie was booed when announcing that "we need to accept this reality"
The reality of what, Bernie? Being quiet an taking it up the ass in the face of outright corruption??
Hoping these Bernie folks raise big time hell over the next few days and weeks.
Oh and you know Trump will be in the background fanning the flames as only he can. 8)
Exactly. Bernie should have went silent IMO. Either he stands for what is true and right, or he doesn't.
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Hillary is the worst candidate in recent times. She has ZERO chance. The only way she would have won is if she could have gotten the Bernie supporters like me. Thats not gonna happen. She isn't even trying to appeal to that segment at all.
At this point, she only has support to lose and can only hold on to the little that she has. Trump can only gain. He will NOT lose any support, only gain.
Easy election for Trump and I look forward to supporting him.
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Hillary is the worst candidate in recent times. She has ZERO chance. The only way she would have won is if she could have gotten the Bernie supporters like me. Thats not gonna happen. She isn't even trying to appeal to that segment at all.
At this point, she only has support to lose and can only hold on to the little that she has. Trump can only gain. He will NOT lose any support, only gain.
Easy election for Trump and I look forward to supporting him.
We need to all chip in and find a way to send you up to philly for the protests. :D
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Hillary is the worst candidate in recent times.
Trump is 2nd worst. So anything can happen.
Trump will win or lose by 40 states. Trump is the Mad King.
King Aerys II Targaryen, popularly called "the Mad King", is a mostly unseen character in Game of Thrones, whose only appearance so far is in Season 6, in one of Bran's visions. Deceased prior to the events of the series, Aerys Targaryen was the last member of House Targaryen to rule from the Iron Throne. Although his rule began benevolently, he succumbed to madness and was eventually deposed by Robert Baratheon in a civil war. Infamously, Aerys was murdered by a member of his Kingsguard, Ser Jaime Lannister, earning the latter the nickname "Kingslayer".
Aerys's two surviving children, Viserys and Daenerys, were taken to the Free Cities of Essos, intent on one day returning to Westeros to reclaim what they regard as their birthright. He was formally styled as Aerys of House Targaryen, the Second of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.
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Too see the Clinton Crime Family defeated is reason enough to support Trump
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Too see the Clinton Crime Family defeated is reason enough to support Trump
Exactly, and I actually like Trump, even if he was going against someone else other than Hillary. He is not a moron at all and knows whats what. He is Liberal where it matters and Conservative where it matters and has the ability to evaluate information and make choices not based on politics alone. He does not care about the GOP or the Democratic Party and owes nothing, no favors to anyone.
The GOP are fools for not backing him more as its about time they get their party in order and he is the one to do it. I see nothing wrong with Trump at all.
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Exactly, and I actually like Trump, even if he was going against someone else other than Hillary. He is not a moron at all and knows whats what. He is Liberal where it matters and Conservative where it matters and has the ability to evaluate information and make choices not based on politics alone. He does not care about the GOP or the Democratic Party and owes nothing, no favors to anyone.
The GOP are fools for not backing him more as its about time they get their party in order and he is the one to do it. I see nothing wrong with Trump at all.
do you think Trump lacks self control?
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do you think Trump lacks self control?
They all do, bro. They just have different ways of 'losing' it.
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do you think Trump lacks self control?
Fat Hillary obviously does w the pot, chooms, booze, ice cream, cakes, and steaks. she is a slob and a failed dieter who needs a 12k potato sack to seem presentable.
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do you think Trump lacks self control?
I think he is in complete control. Someone of his status does not get to where they are via lack of self control.
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Lmao, a few times I've caught myself wondering if Trump is speaking in some sort of code when it comes to the stuff he says. The 'unbelievable intelligence' etc.
And he doesn't even worry me, himself, so much as the enemies he's sure to make. But either way, we MUST break free of the cycle and he may be our only chance.
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Emerson Poll: Donald Trump Gets 2-Point National Lead, 4-Point Lead in Colorado
Donald Trump has jumped into a 2-point lead over Hillary Clinton, according to a new national poll of 800 likely voters by Emerson College.
Trump scored 43 percent to Clinton’s 41 percent. The poll’s margin of error is 3.4 percent, so the apparent lead is basically neck-and-neck, but Emerson has a good rating among pollsters. The poll was conducted from Sept. 11 to Sept. 13, amid rising public concerns over Clinton’s health.
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson got 9 percent of the national vote, and Green Party’s Jill Stein got 2 percent, said Emerson.
A separate poll by Emerson’s polling also gave Trump a four-point lead in Colorado, 42 percent to 38 percent. Trump holds the lead, partly because Johnson gets 13 percent in the state. Emerson also showed Trump ahead in Georgia by 6 points, by 13 points in Missouri, and by 28 points in Arkansas.
Each state poll included 600 likely voters, and each had an error margin of 3.9 percent. The four state polls were conducted from Sept. 9 to Sept. 13.
Emerson’s new polls also show that more voters think Trump can win the race. “Only 45% of the national electorate [are] saying Clinton will win, compared to 43% who say Trump will” win, said Emerson.
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This is so beautiful! MAGA.
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The only destruction would be of Trump. If Trump somehow pulls the rabbit out of the hat and wins, it will
be Bush v Gore close. When Hillary wins, I expect it will be quite a wide margin. I don't believe the current polls.
I believe the "media" and "pollsters" manipulate these for varying reasons. Mainly, that if the polls continued showing
Hillary with over 350 electoral college votes, their ratings would tumble. Now, you show Trump gaining steam and God forbid
winning? Well, people start tuning in again.
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The only destruction would be of Trump. If Trump somehow pulls the rabbit out of the hat and wins, it will
be Bush v Gore close. When Hillary wins, I expect it will be quite a wide margin. I don't believe the current polls.
I believe the "media" and "pollsters" manipulate these for varying reasons. Mainly, that if the polls continued showing
Hillary with over 350 electoral college votes, their ratings would tumble. Now, you show Trump gaining steam and God forbid
winning? Well, people start tuning in again.
what are the gamblers doing? THAT is what to watch. Networks love a photo finish.
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The only destruction would be of Trump. If Trump somehow pulls the rabbit out of the hat and wins, it will
be Bush v Gore close. When Hillary wins, I expect it will be quite a wide margin. I don't believe the current polls.
I believe the "media" and "pollsters" manipulate these for varying reasons. Mainly, that if the polls continued showing
Hillary with over 350 electoral college votes, their ratings would tumble. Now, you show Trump gaining steam and God forbid
winning? Well, people start tuning in again.
Don't be blind and stupid.
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Don't be blind and stupid.
Ok. I'll stop. You've sold me. Go Donald!!
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Everything has gone wrong for Hilary in the past 2-3 weeks.
Trump is getting cocky. 3 flubs in one day.
Hilary fundraised all summer and can blitz him with campaign ads.
Trump gave 9 bad answers in 23 minutes during cic forum. Debates are way longer.
A certain trial starts next month and the lib media is ignoring it so they can use it in October. Also the sealed divorce records - brutal claims.
Let trump enjoy this September climb. Assuming Hilary can hide her disease, he isn't gonna take it.
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Everything has gone wrong for Hilary in the past 2-3 weeks.
Trump is getting cocky. 3 flubs in one day.
Hilary fundraised all summer and can blitz him with campaign ads.
Trump gave 9 bad answers in 23 minutes during cic forum. Debates are way longer.
A certain trial starts next month and the lib media is ignoring it so they can use it in October. Also the sealed divorce records - brutal claims.
Let trump enjoy this September climb. Assuming Hilary can hide her disease, he isn't gonna take it.
the 3 flubs wont make a difference. not one. wait until the next batch of wiki emails drops.
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the 3 flubs wont make a difference. not one. wait until the next batch of wiki emails drops.
The point is, trump has been super disciplined. Suddenly it's 3 drama queen things in one day?
Come on... He's too smart for this.
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The point is, trump has been super disciplined. Suddenly it's 3 drama queen things in one day?
Come on... He's too smart for this.
Trump's campaign is imploding! Lol...
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Trump's campaign is imploding! Lol...
Haha they hate when you counter their delusions with facts :)
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dems were in cruising mode. now they're in urgent mode.
repubs have ben battling an opponent that wasn't campaigning, wasn't desperate, wasn't stressing things. and they managed a tie after a summer of it.
Now, dems are motivated. It's Sept 16th. Let's see how things look in 2 weeks, after debate #1 and 2 weeks of hilary on the campaign trail.
Assuming she doesn't collapse physically, she's forcing trump to come out on the birther issue. He is no longer leading the discussion, he's reacting to her.
she lost 4% nationally because 1 in 25 think she has a bad disease.
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dems were in cruising mode. now they're in urgent mode.
repubs have ben battling an opponent that wasn't campaigning, wasn't desperate, wasn't stressing things. and they managed a tie after a summer of it.
Now, dems are motivated. It's Sept 16th. Let's see how things look in 2 weeks, after debate #1 and 2 weeks of hilary on the campaign trail.
Assuming she doesn't collapse physically, she's forcing trump to come out on the birther issue. He is no longer leading the discussion, he's reacting to her.
she lost 4% nationally because 1 in 25 think she has a bad disease.
Fact: You are a douche-bag and you will vote for Hillary.
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The point is, trump has been super disciplined. Suddenly it's 3 drama queen things in one day?
Come on... He's too smart for this.
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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I don't think you know what you are talking about.
he buried his own awesome tax plan, with 1) insulting anderson cooper, 2) insulting the reverend, and 3) going birther.
It's like he wants to tank debate, piss off Flint voters, and rally his base at the expense of swing voters. Trying to lose!
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he buried his own awesome tax plan, with 1) insulting anderson cooper, 2) insulting the reverend, and 3) going birther.
It's like he wants to tank debate, piss off Flint voters, and rally his base at the expense of swing voters. Trying to lose!
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After Trump's decisive loss, I so hope Hannity gets buried for good.
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LA Times/USC Poll: Trump Gaining With African-American Voters
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=13f38573-f0cb-4227-96e1-93847fb7ec57&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Donald Trump is gaining support among African-American voters, while support for Hillary Clinton has crashed 20 points, a Los Angeles Times/University of Southern California daily tracking poll shows.
The survey, last updated Sunday, puts Trump's support among black voters at 20.1 percent – up from 3.1 percent on Sept. 10.
Clinton's support, on the other hand, dropped to 70.9 percent as of Sunday, down from 90.4 percent Sept. 10.
"It’s the largest shift we’ve seen in a one-week period since we began polling in July," Schnur tells the Post.
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Plus he picked up a very key Vince Goodrum endorsement this week.
Rasmussen Poll: Donald Trump Leads Hillary Clinton by Two Points
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Donald Trump surpasses Hillary Clinton in the latest Rasmussen tracking poll, which finds likely voters prefer Trump to Clinton, 43 percent to 41 percent.
In Wednesday’s poll, Clinton led Trump by four points, 43 percent to 39 percent. Her lead has continued to decrease since Monday when she had a seven point lead and then dropped two points to a five point lead on Tuesday.
The survey, which questions 1,500 likely voters, is updated each weekday and is “based on a three-day rolling average.” The latest results have a plus or minus 2.5 percent margin of error and the poll was taken Oct. 12 and Oct. 13.
“Monday’s survey was the first following the release of an 11-year-old video showing Trump discussing women in graphic sexual detail but did not include any polling results taken after the debate,” Rasmussen notes. “All three nights of the latest survey follow Sunday’s debate.”
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson received six percent in the latest survey, while Green Party Candidate Jill Stein received two percent. Four percent of likely voters remain undecided.
The Rasmussen results found:
Eighty-four percent (84%) now say they are certain how they will vote in this year’s presidential election, and among these voters, Trump posts a 49% to 46% lead over Clinton. Among voters who say they still could change their minds between now and Election Day, it’s Clinton 40%, Trump 37%, Johnson 19% and Stein four percent (4%).
The survey reveals that most Republican voters believe GOP leaders who are criticizing Trump are hurting the party.
Seventy-five percent of Republicans support Trump, while 76 percent of Democrats support Clinton.
The New Yorker is picking up 15 percent of Democrats, while the former secretary of state is picking up 13 percent of Republican voters.
Trump has a double-digit lead with likely voters who don’t identify with either major political party, according to the survey.
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I have decided who to vote for yet. However I am leaning on voting for neither Trump or Hillary. Likely I will vote for Gary Johnson if i vote for a president at all. I can't see either of the main 2 candidates being good for this country.
But my question is, as i see many on this board posting endlessly in support of Trump, including post on how he's winning in the polls and how his deficit in some polls is similar to Reagan's, do you really think Trump is going to win this election?
Because to me it look like Hillary is gonna win this. IMO they should both lose and Kasich, Rubio or someone else should take over vs. some other Democrat beside Sanders.
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Gary Johnson, lol?
But anyways, I don't believe he will win. Media already has everyone wrapped around their fingers. Anyone I have talked to has barely even heard of wikileaks and some not at all. Voters are not informed and have no desire to be.
And if he miraculously did "win" I wouldn't put it past the government now to directly cheat.
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Hillary is the choice of the putrid DC establishment, global banks, media, and defense establishment - of course she is likely to win.
Moron fags, blacks, stupid women swayed by what Trump said 30 years ago to some fat chick, and those who benefit off the fat of the system of course gonna vote for her.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/1abq2q.jpg)
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Hillary has the Rothschild family, the wealthiest and most powerful dynasty in the world, on her side. Enough said. :(
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Hillary has the Rothschild family, the wealthiest and most powerful dynasty in the world, on her side. Enough said. :(
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9985 (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9985)
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(https://i.imgflip.com/1abq2q.jpg)
It was "What is a lepo?"
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It was "What is a lepo?"
Well if its that fagget Hillary - "What is server" cause apparently she has no recollection of anything.
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I think its 50/50.
Would not be surprised if he pulled it off.
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She'll win. People are stupid.
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Trump Leads Clinton By 1 Point Going Into Debate — IBD/TIPP Poll
Was Most Accurate Poll in 2012
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58039be7/turbine/ct-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll-20161016)
After more than a week of blistering attacks from Democrats, celebrities and the press, Donald Trump has managed to pull ahead of Hillary Clinton by a 1.3 percentage point margin — 41.3% to 40% — in a four-way matchup, according to the new IBD/TIPP poll released today.
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson got 7.6% and Green Party candidate Jill Stein got 5.5%. The results are the first in the IBD/TIPP presidential tracking poll. Daily updates start Thursday and will continue until the election.
The IBD/TIPP poll previously was monitoring support for the candidates in the 2016 election on a monthly basis. The new results are Trump's best showing in months. The poll also found that in a two-way matchup, Clinton is up by 3 points — 43.6% to 40.6% — which represents a slight gain from September, when Clinton was ahead 44% to 43%.
For daily updates until the election and full details, including demographic breakdowns of results, follow the IBD/TIPP Presidential Tracking Poll.
"From the results, it looks as if Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are drawing more support away from Clinton than Trump," said Ragavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducts the poll.
These results are far closer than the Real Clear Politics average, which currently has Clinton up 6.2 points in the four-way poll and by 6.6 points in a two-way matchup.
What's more, Trump scores higher on voter intensity, with 67% of his backers saying they strongly support him, compared with 58% of Clinton supporters who say they strongly back their candidate.
However, half of those polled think Clinton will end up winning the election, compared with 20% who say Trump will.
The IBD/TIPP tracking poll has been cited as the most accurate in predicting actual election results in the past three presidential elections.
In the four-way matchup, the poll shows some noteworthy gaps.
By gender, Clinton does much better among women — 47% to 37% — but Trump's lead among men is just as strong at 47% to 32%.
Trump does better among parents (46% to 32%), married women (44% to 41%), lower-class households (53% to 37%), and the religious, among whom Clinton's support never tops 38%. Among those who express no religion, Clinton handily beats Trump 63% to 16%.
Clinton does better among college educated — 45% to 36% — while Trump outperforms Clinton among those with only a high school education — 58% to 27%.
Methodology:
For the results released today, TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence conducted the Investor's Business Daily/TIPP poll from Oct. 13 through Oct. 18, 2016.
A total of 872 Americans age 18 or older participated in the nationwide survey. Of the 872 respondents, 825 were registered voters and 782 were likely voters.
The story is based on the subsample of likely voters. The margin of error for the likely voters sample is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.
TechnoMetrica uses "traditional" telephone methodology using live interviewers for data collection for its public opinion surveys. Roughly 65% of interviews come from a cell phone sample and 35% from a Random Digit Dial (RDD) land line sample.
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Trump Leads Clinton By 1 Point Going Into Debate — IBD/TIPP Poll
Was Most Accurate Poll in 2012
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58039be7/turbine/ct-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll-20161016)
After more than a week of blistering attacks from Democrats, celebrities and the press, Donald Trump has managed to pull ahead of Hillary Clinton by a 1.3 percentage point margin — 41.3% to 40% — in a four-way matchup, according to the new IBD/TIPP poll released today.
Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson got 7.6% and Green Party candidate Jill Stein got 5.5%. The results are the first in the IBD/TIPP presidential tracking poll. Daily updates start Thursday and will continue until the election.
The IBD/TIPP poll previously was monitoring support for the candidates in the 2016 election on a monthly basis. The new results are Trump's best showing in months. The poll also found that in a two-way matchup, Clinton is up by 3 points — 43.6% to 40.6% — which represents a slight gain from September, when Clinton was ahead 44% to 43%.
For daily updates until the election and full details, including demographic breakdowns of results, follow the IBD/TIPP Presidential Tracking Poll.
"From the results, it looks as if Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are drawing more support away from Clinton than Trump," said Ragavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducts the poll.
These results are far closer than the Real Clear Politics average, which currently has Clinton up 6.2 points in the four-way poll and by 6.6 points in a two-way matchup.
What's more, Trump scores higher on voter intensity, with 67% of his backers saying they strongly support him, compared with 58% of Clinton supporters who say they strongly back their candidate.
However, half of those polled think Clinton will end up winning the election, compared with 20% who say Trump will.
The IBD/TIPP tracking poll has been cited as the most accurate in predicting actual election results in the past three presidential elections.
In the four-way matchup, the poll shows some noteworthy gaps.
By gender, Clinton does much better among women — 47% to 37% — but Trump's lead among men is just as strong at 47% to 32%.
Trump does better among parents (46% to 32%), married women (44% to 41%), lower-class households (53% to 37%), and the religious, among whom Clinton's support never tops 38%. Among those who express no religion, Clinton handily beats Trump 63% to 16%.
Clinton does better among college educated — 45% to 36% — while Trump outperforms Clinton among those with only a high school education — 58% to 27%.
Methodology:
For the results released today, TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence conducted the Investor's Business Daily/TIPP poll from Oct. 13 through Oct. 18, 2016.
A total of 872 Americans age 18 or older participated in the nationwide survey. Of the 872 respondents, 825 were registered voters and 782 were likely voters.
The story is based on the subsample of likely voters. The margin of error for the likely voters sample is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.
TechnoMetrica uses "traditional" telephone methodology using live interviewers for data collection for its public opinion surveys. Roughly 65% of interviews come from a cell phone sample and 35% from a Random Digit Dial (RDD) land line sample.
Whatever you need to hang your hat on.
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Whatever you need to hang your hat on.
OOGA BOOGA
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Presidency is obviously hers, only thing he'll destroy is the GOP.
Which is good. Fuck every piece of shit R who supported this unfit maggot.
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Neither candidate blew anyone away last night.
Yet, Trump's tone, posture, and temperament were improved last night. Hillary ended up screeching quite a bit. Her energy faded quickly after the first hour; seemed to get drowsy/irritable. Her eyes kept drifting downward to her podium, I swear to god she was reading something.
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L.A. Times Tracking Poll: Donald Trump Leading Hillary Clinton Again
Donald Trump has gained on Hillary Clinton during the past week, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll, solidifying support among core Republican groups as well as political independents.
Roughly 6 in 10 still expect Clinton to prevail, while the poll finds shrinking concerns about the accuracy of the vote count and voter fraud in the election.
Clinton holds a slight 48-44 percent edge over Trump among likely voters, with Libertarian Gary Johnson at 4 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein at 1 percent in the survey completed Sunday through Wednesday. Clinton held a six-point edge in the previous wave and a 12-point edge in the first wave of the tracking poll by ABC News Sunday (50 percent Clinton vs. 38 percent Trump). In a two-candidate contest, Clinton holds a five-point edge over Trump, 50 to 45 percent.
Trump’s growth in support from 38 percent to 44 percent is fueled by shored-up support among Republican-leaning voting groups as well as a significant boost among political independents. Trump has made up ground among whites, particularly those without college degrees and women. Trump now leads by a 30 percentage point margin among white voters without college degrees, up from 20 points from this weekend. White women now tilt toward Trump by 48 to 43 percent after leaning 49 to 43 percent in Clinton’s favor before.
Trump saw his biggest gains among political independents, favoring Trump by a 12-point margin in the latest tracking poll, 49 to 37 percent, after giving Clinton a narrow edge in late last week. Neither candidate has maintained a consistent lead among independent likely voters in Post-ABC polling this fall.
Other surveys this week paint a mixed picture about how much the race has shifted. The Huffington Post’s national average of polls finds Clinton with a seven-point advantage over Trump, hardly changed in recent weeks. FiveThirtyEight’s forecast, which takes into account state-level surveys, finds only a slight dip in Clinton’s expected popular vote based on recent surveys.
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LA Times Poll: Donald Trump Leads Hillary Clinton by 2.4 Points
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Republican nominee Donald Trump leads Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by 2.4 points in the latest USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times “Daybreak” tracking poll.
The New Yorker tops the former secretary of state, 46.2 percent to 43.8 percent.
The USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times “Daybreak” poll regularly surveys 3,000 voters.
The data is updated based on poll responses from the previous week, so the results may lag in responding to major events in the campaign.
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ABC Poll: Clinton and Trump Even; Turnout Critical
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A slim point separates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll results, cementing Trump's resurgence in the past week and marking the potentially critical role of turnout in the election’s outcome.
The race stands at 46-45 percent, Clinton-Trump, in the latest results, so tight that the draw by third-party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein could matter. Clinton, +1 vs. Trump in a four-way trial heat, is +3 head-to-head –- not a significant difference, but suggestive.
See PDF with full results, charts and tables here.
About a third of likely voters say they’re less likely to support Clinton given FBI Director James Comey’s disclosure Friday that the bureau is investigating more emails related to its probe of Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state. Given other considerations, 63 percent say it makes no difference.
Those who say the issue makes them less apt to back Clinton overwhelmingly back Trump in the first place. But what's key in a close contest is whether the disclosure gives Trump supporters further motivation to turn out for him –- and whether it demotivates reluctant Clinton backers.
In other results of the survey, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates:
• Regardless of the closeness of current preferences and plans to participate, 60 percent of likely voters still expect Clinton to win. This, too, may be a risk to her, potentially encouraging some Clinton supporters not to bother voting.
• Clinton continues to lead Trump in two key attributes. She is seen as more qualified to serve as president by a substantial 54-36 percent of likely voters, a result that makes the closeness of the race overall particularly remarkable. She's also seen to have a stronger moral character, albeit by a closer 46-38 percent.
• That said, the two are virtually tied, 46-43 percent, on another important measure: who better understands "the problems of people like you"; a similar gauge was important in Barack Obama's defeat of Mitt Romney in 2012. (In pre-tracking ABC/Post results, moreover, Clinton and Trump were tied in trust to handle two main issues -– the economy and terrorism -– as well as immigration.)
The survey also finds a risk of substantial damage to House Speaker Paul Ryan by dint of his decision not to campaign on Trump's behalf: Among likely voters who are Republicans or lean that way, 66 percent disapprove of Ryan on this score. Just 21 percent approve.
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Poll: Donald Trump +7 over Hillary Clinton in North Carolina, Now at 51 Percent
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A new WRAL/SurveyUSA poll shows that Donald Trump is now leading North Carolina by seven points ahead of Hillary Clinton — 51 percent to Clinton’s 44 percent.
That means that Trump has shockingly flipped his numbers in the state in just one month. Three weeks ago, Clinton was leading Trump by two points in the same poll – 46 percent to 44 percent.
Trump has now passed the 50 percent threshold, according to the poll, making it unlikely that Clinton will be able to bounce back.
The poll was conducted after the news that the FBI would revisit the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server.
Clinton has campaigned furiously in North Carolina in recent weeks, trying to keep the state from going for Trump in 2016.
The state went for Romney in 2012 but went for Obama in 2008. Both First Lady Michelle Obama and President Barack Obama have campaigned in the state’s more populated areas, urging supporters to back Hillary Clinton.
Clinton and Michelle Obama made headlines after campaigning together in the state last week.
Actress Lena Dunham also campaigned in the state over the weekend for Clinton.
President Obama plans to campaign in the state Wednesday with singer song writer James Taylor.
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Poll: Donald Trump +7 over Hillary Clinton in North Carolina, Now at 51 Percent
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A new WRAL/SurveyUSA poll shows that Donald Trump is now leading North Carolina by seven points ahead of Hillary Clinton — 51 percent to Clinton’s 44 percent.
That means that Trump has shockingly flipped his numbers in the state in just one month. Three weeks ago, Clinton was leading Trump by two points in the same poll – 46 percent to 44 percent.
Trump has now passed the 50 percent threshold, according to the poll, making it unlikely that Clinton will be able to bounce back.
The poll was conducted after the news that the FBI would revisit the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server.
Clinton has campaigned furiously in North Carolina in recent weeks, trying to keep the state from going for Trump in 2016.
The state went for Romney in 2012 but went for Obama in 2008. Both First Lady Michelle Obama and President Barack Obama have campaigned in the state’s more populated areas, urging supporters to back Hillary Clinton.
Clinton and Michelle Obama made headlines after campaigning together in the state last week.
Actress Lena Dunham also campaigned in the state over the weekend for Clinton.
President Obama plans to campaign in the state Wednesday with singer song writer James Taylor.
Wow. If he wins NC and FLA, he could very well win this thing.
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Presidency is obviously hers, only thing he'll destroy is the GOP.
Which is good. Fuck every piece of shit R who supported this unfit maggot.
The GOP should have backed one of several other quality candidates for their nominee.
They didn't and Trump won the nod, fair and square.
I don't think he'll win, and agree that he's setting the party back .
Nov 8 will tell the truth, one way or the other.
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The GOP should have backed one of several other quality candidates for their nominee.
They did, but the people just didn't get the memo.
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Whatever you need to hang your hat on.
Hang my hat on being the Getbig Political Board Poster of The Year?
Gladly. :D
Called this one from a year out and was more accurate than 90% of the so called political pundit geniuses out there.
God damn I'm good! 8)
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Hang my hat on being the Getbig Political Board Poster of The Year?
Gladly. :D
Called this one from a year out and was more accurate than 90% of the so called political pundit geniuses out there.
God damn I'm good! 8)
Yes you definitely nailed it.
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Hang my hat on being the Getbig Political Board Poster of The Year?
Gladly. :D
Called this one from a year out and was more accurate than 90% of the so called political pundit geniuses out there.
God damn I'm good! 8)
Definitely impressive. I always felt he had a good chance but I didn't get really confident until the last month.
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Hang my hat on being the Getbig Political Board Poster of The Year?
Gladly. :D
Called this one from a year out and was more accurate than 90% of the so called political pundit geniuses out there.
God damn I'm good! 8)
I have to say that, in retrospect, that is one seriously impressive opening post. It was a lot of spot-on detail. :o
This is a serious question, and even though people around here have a tendency to get irrationally offended by my posts, it isn't meant to offend. Would you say that you follow a lot of alt-right media?
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I have to say that, in retrospect, that is one seriously impressive opening post. It was a lot of spot-on detail. :o
This is a serious question, and even though people around here have a tendency to get irrationally offended by my posts, it isn't meant to offend. Would you say that you follow a lot of alt-right media?
Being annoyed by stupidity is different then being "offended".
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Being annoyed by stupidity is different then being "offended".
Libs are forever getting "offended" by everything. So, they think the rest of us do the same.
The current tactic of the Left is to label the Alt-Right as a racist, nationalist movement, when, as Milo put it beautifully, it's about values and ideals.
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I have to say that, in retrospect, that is one seriously impressive opening post. It was a lot of spot-on detail. :o
This is a serious question, and even though people around here have a tendency to get irrationally offended by my posts, it isn't meant to offend. Would you say that you follow a lot of alt-right media?
I settled with the below electoral map graph as the one that most closely resembled my prediction. Trump flipped Pennysylvania that had not been done since the 1980's and effectively won the race at that point. The race could have been called MUCH earlier once Florida was taken and if the Pennsylvania votes had been counted quicker. Not officially called over but for all practical purposes it would have been.
Pennsylvania has been a fools gold proposition over the past couple decades for republican candidates but with a low black turnout and a strong blue collar union turnout that hasn't been seen in years he could potentially flip it and if he does the race is most likely over at that point.
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I followed Bill Still throughout the past couple months of the election and he was another who had very convincing arguments predicting a decisive Trump victory.
He probably had the most accurate map out of everyone. Take a look @6:03 of the link. Just outstanding.
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I settled with the below electoral map graph as the one that most closely resembled my prediction. Trump flipped Pennysylvania that had not been done since the 1980's and effectively won the race at that point. The race could have been called MUCH earlier once Florida was taken and if the Pennsylvania votes had been counted quicker. Not officially called over but for all practical purposes it would have been.
Was clearly not called to deny trump the appearance of a victory so early.
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Was clearly not called to deny trump the appearance of a victory so early.
My suspicion is Hillary knew very early the race was over and began to drink heavily.
Trump was ahead in Virginia. Running away with Ohio. Pennsylvania democrat turnout in the eastern urban areas was pathetic. Florida was almost certainly going Trump's way once the panhandle area polls began to close.
She was likely 3 sheets to the wind and throwing around lamps at junior interns before the central states even began to be counted.
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Libs are forever getting "offended" by everything. So, they think the rest of us do the same.
The current tactic of the Left is to label the Alt-Right as a racist, nationalist movement, when, as Milo put it beautifully, it's about values and ideals.
And they continue with the same narrative even though a large amount of people are sick of it. No original thought.
Bannon is a racist, Sessions is a racist, Flynn is a racist, etc
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And they continue with the same narrative even though a large amount of people are sick of it. No original thought.
Bannon is a racist, Sessions is a racist, Flynn is a racist, etc
What is going to be interesting will be once the Republicans start putting up Latino, Black and Female Presidential candidates. And they most certainly will, you are already beginning to see the reserve bench starting to form.
They are basically fucked at that point.
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What is going to be interesting will be once the Republicans start putting up Latino, Black and Female Presidential candidates. And they most certainly will, you are already beginning to see the reserve bench starting to form.
They are basically fucked at that point.
They never learn. They'll say the Latino is naive, the Black is an Uncle Tom and the woman is dumb.
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Being annoyed by stupidity is different then being "offended".
Yes, I know. I get annoyed by other people's posts. People get irrationally offended by mine.
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Yes, I know. I get annoyed by other people's posts. People get irrationally offended by mine.
I laugh at the stupidity of your posts!
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Libs are forever getting "offended" by everything. So, they think the rest of us do the same.
The current tactic of the Left is to label the Alt-Right as a racist, nationalist movement, when, as Milo put it beautifully, it's about values and ideals.
This is the " current" tactic? Was this idea just invented in the last few weeks?
There's not really any denying that the Alt-right movement has a huge racist following and appeals greatly to racists in a way that other political ideologies don't, but that wasn't the point of my question. I'm trying to understand the blind spot that made it so difficult to gauge Trump's support. And, no, it doesn't just come down to biased media because even republican leaning polls and polls that favored Trump didn't give him such a clear edge. Even most Trump supporters here didn't foresee a victory for Trump, at least not in the way that it happened. The OP's post is interesting in that it he didn't just say "I like Trump. He'll win" but predicted things that actually happened that weren't being addressed in mainstream media. But continue to be ... "annoyed". ::)
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I laugh at the stupidity of your posts!
When you're not taking your prozac? ???
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When you're not taking your prozac? ???
I'm completely natty!
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I'm completely natty!
You didn't have to take medication when I made your last gimmick meltdown? Good for you! It really looked like you had some severe mental problems.
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You didn't have to take medication when I made your last gimmick meltdown? Good for you! It really looked like you had some severe mental problems.
I've never had a gimmick for you to melt down. You're just making up things to pretend that you are equal to a superior straight white male. In an academic way, I can comprehend your frustration with your so called life, being a "person" of color.
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This is the " current" tactic? Was this idea just invented in the last few weeks?
There's not really any denying that the Alt-right movement has a huge racist following and appeals greatly to racists in a way that other political ideologies don't, but that wasn't the point of my question. I'm trying to understand the blind spot that made it so difficult to gauge Trump's support. And, no, it doesn't just come down to biased media because even republican leaning polls and polls that favored Trump didn't give him such a clear edge. Even most Trump supporters here didn't foresee a victory for Trump, at least not in the way that it happened. The OP's post is interesting in that it he didn't just say "I like Trump. He'll win" but predicted things that actually happened that weren't being addressed in mainstream media. But continue to be ... "annoyed". ::)
There are plenty of racists on the left, as well, and they're actually in positions of prominence , but they don't seem to count because they're not white.
The reality is that America is a center right country that Obama & Co tried to drag to the Left. The current makeup of the executive branch (Once Obama finally clears out) and the Legistlative, shows that his efforts have been a failure.
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There are plenty of racists on the left, as well, and they're actually in positions of prominence , but they don't seem to count because they're not white.
The reality is that America is a center right country that Obama & Co tried to drag to the Left. The current makeup of the executive branch (Once Obama finally clears out) and the Legistlative, shows that his efforts have been a failure.
Al is one of the top racists on this forum.
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Al is one of the top racists on this forum.
That and he gives off a "creepy" vibe, causing women to be overcome with a profound sense of unease.
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This is the " current" tactic? Was this idea just invented in the last few weeks?
There's not really any denying that the Alt-right movement has a huge racist following and appeals greatly to racists in a way that other political ideologies don't, but that wasn't the point of my question. I'm trying to understand the blind spot that made it so difficult to gauge Trump's support. And, no, it doesn't just come down to biased media because even republican leaning polls and polls that favored Trump didn't give him such a clear edge. Even most Trump supporters here didn't foresee a victory for Trump, at least not in the way that it happened. The OP's post is interesting in that it he didn't just say "I like Trump. He'll win" but predicted things that actually happened that weren't being addressed in mainstream media. But continue to be ... "annoyed". ::)
I think so much of what we know and expect will change drastically within the next year. 3 reasons I believe Trump has a massive edge.
1. The constant slandering and accusing people of being racists, sexists, bigots etc etc has just reached critical mass and undoubtedly that was one of the main reasons Hillary and the Dems lost the Rust Belt. The very same white working class that were the bread and butter of Bill Clinton have turned on the Democrat Party and come out for The Republicans or at the very least for Donald Trump.
2. The fact that the Republicans will be the one with the media edge from here on out because Alternative Media has ALREADY surpassed the mainstream media. What was the old saying? "The Democrats always had a 15 point advantage right of the bat because of media. Those days are gone forever.
So basically the 2 biggest factors being 1. Rejection of PC culture. 2. The loss of the massive media advantage.
Part 3
The hiring of Steve Bannon - This is a guy who basically just ran over the entire Conservative wing of the Republican Party with relative ease. His aim is to win 40% of the minority vote in 2020 and there is a good chance he'll achieve or approach it. So many of these Republicans in the recent past have gotten bogged down with the social issues such as gay marriage, abortion, having to fill out this "19 point conservative checklist" to keep the cuck Washington DC buddies happy. Trump avoids all of that.
Steve Bannon simply wants to WIN. Period. Fuck your Conservative values. Just get the W.
Populist agenda. He will get a trillion dollar infrastructure bill passed in Congress with bi-partisan support(Bernie Sanders and West Virginia Joe Manchin have already expressed interest in signing on) He can then stack that with the ULTIMATE salesperson in Donald Trump who will spend the next 2 years courting the minority community with good paying jobs and opportunities.
It is a completely different angle than we have ever seen. I believe it will pay off as well.
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Al is one of the top racists on this forum.
???
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That and he gives off a "creepy" vibe, causing women to be overcome with a profound sense of unease.
Still clinging to that? Well... good for you. Good luck being annoyed.
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I think so much of what we know and expect will change drastically within the next year. 3 reasons I believe Trump has a massive edge.
1. The constant slandering and accusing people of being racists, sexists, bigots etc etc has just reached critical mass and undoubtedly that was one of the main reasons Hillary and the Dems lost the Rust Belt. The very same white working class that were the bread and butter of Bill Clinton have turned on the Democrat Party and come out for The Republicans or at the very least for Donald Trump.
2. The fact that the Republicans will be the one with the media edge from here on out because Alternative Media has ALREADY surpassed the mainstream media. What was the old saying? "The Democrats always had a 15 point advantage right of the bat because of media. Those days are gone forever.
So basically the 2 biggest factors being 1. Rejection of PC culture. 2. The loss of the massive media advantage.
Part 3
The hiring of Steve Bannon - This is a guy who basically just ran over the entire Conservative wing of the Republican Party with relative ease. His aim is to win 40% of the minority vote in 2020 and there is a good chance he'll achieve or approach it. So many of these Republicans in the recent past have gotten bogged down with the social issues such as gay marriage, abortion, having to fill out this "19 point conservative checklist" to keep the cuck Washington DC buddies happy. Trump avoids all of that.
Steve Bannon simply wants to WIN. Period. Fuck your Conservative values. Just get the W.
Populist agenda. He will get a trillion dollar infrastructure bill passed in Congress with bi-partisan support(Bernie Sanders and West Virginia Joe Manchin have already expressed interest in signing on) He can then stack that with the ULTIMATE salesperson in Donald Trump who will spend the next 2 years courting the minority community with good paying jobs and opportunities.
It is a completely different angle than we have ever seen. I believe it will pay off as well.
We'll see. There are some things you say that are accurate, but some that are up in the air. In a lot of ways, this was an election that facebook won. That might not be something that happens again. The right has always dominated opinion media, though.
Honestly, as a Hillary supporter, I wasn't surprised by Trump's win, even though it is a really WTF? type of event. It's very rare that one party keeps the white house for more than two terms and the democratic party was in shambles before the election. Even though it was presumed to be a foregone conclusion that she would get the job, a lot of lefties were saying it was almost impossible that she'd be able to keep it for a second term. The country goes back and forth and the easiest way to market a presidential candidate is an outsider/agent of change. Your opening post put you in the lead, but I think Trump's victory was a little bit more multi-layered than that.
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In a lot of ways, this was an election that facebook won.
Source?
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Source?
My FB was wall to wall trump hate for months and months. I told people I was voting for him and why but never spammed my page or others w trump stuff.
In te other hand - Libfags I know were Daily and relentless w the trumpbhate and excuses for hillbags
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My FB was wall to wall trump hate for months and months. I told people I was voting for him and why but never spammed my page or others w trump stuff.
In te other hand - Libfags I know were Daily and relentless w the trumpbhate and excuses for hillbags
exactly. I can attest the same, and most of my friends/followers/etc. live in TX.
People were too afraid to be too vocal about their support of Trump because:
1. Banned by Facebook (well, shadowbanned - and I think that is why I never saw any support posts because they were hidden; there have been multiple accounts that have been banned for posting conservative materials)
2. Retaliation from crazies.
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We'll see. There are some things you say that are accurate, but some that are up in the air. In a lot of ways, this was an election that facebook won. That might not be something that happens again. The right has always dominated opinion media, though.
Honestly, as a Hillary supporter, I wasn't surprised by Trump's win, even though it is a really WTF? type of event. It's very rare that one party keeps the white house for more than two terms and the democratic party was in shambles before the election. Even though it was presumed to be a foregone conclusion that she would get the job, a lot of lefties were saying it was almost impossible that she'd be able to keep it for a second term. The country goes back and forth and the easiest way to market a presidential candidate is an outsider/agent of change. Your opening post put you in the lead, but I think Trump's victory was a little bit more multi-layered than that.
I knew what was going to happen 10 months out because I am better at reading these sorts of things than you are.
You are the prototypical Monday Morning Quarterback.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morning%20quarterback
Monday morning quarterback: American football: A person who criticizes or passes judgment with the benefit of hindsight
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exactly. I can attest the same, and most of my friends/followers/etc. live in TX.
People were too afraid to be too vocal about their support of Trump because:
1. Banned by Facebook (well, shadowbanned - and I think that is why I never saw any support posts because they were hidden; there have been multiple accounts that have been banned for posting conservative materials)
2. Retaliation from crazies.
Who are you trying to kid? :D Trump supporters were some of the most active supporters on social media. His facebook page outperformed hers and favorable news ( a lot of it made up) was circulated more. Facebook's algorithm helps to keep you in a content bubble with like information, but because I don't follow a lot of overtly political stuff, even I was getting a lot of Trump
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I knew what was going to happen 10 months out because I am better at reading these sorts of things than you are.
You are the prototypical Monday Morning Quarterback.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morning%20quarterback
Monday morning quarterback: American football: A person who criticizes or passes judgment with the benefit of hindsight
Your opening post was very thorough and spot on, but it doesn't make you a political fortune teller who will never be wrong. Quite frankly, a lot of the stuff you mention is stuff I said during the campaign: Hillary was not a strong candidate, the only thing keeping him from a clear lead was his campaign not being focused, the polls are probably inaccurate because there is no way to accurately weight the electorate. I think your thoroughness comes more from being closer to a particular movement that was influential during this cycle, not necessarily clairvoyance, but I do give you credit for being perceptive.
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Your opening post was very thorough and spot on, but it doesn't make you a political fortune teller who will never be wrong. Quite frankly, a lot of the stuff you mention is stuff I said during the campaign: Hillary was not a strong candidate, the only thing keeping him from a clear lead was his campaign not being focused, the polls are probably inaccurate because there is no way to accurately weight the electorate. I think your thoroughness comes more from being closer to a particular movement that was influential during this cycle, not necessarily clairvoyance, but I do give you credit for being perceptive.
Although I realize we have different political views I do appreciate your gracious words.
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Your opening post was very thorough and spot on, but it doesn't make you a political fortune teller who will never be wrong. Quite frankly, a lot of the stuff you mention is stuff I said during the campaign: Hillary was not a strong candidate, the only thing keeping him from a clear lead was his campaign not being focused, the polls are probably inaccurate because there is no way to accurately weight the electorate. I think your thoroughness comes more from being closer to a particular movement that was influential during this cycle, not necessarily clairvoyance, but I do give you credit for being perceptive.
He's the new 240 asshole, fall in line. ;D
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Although I realize we have different political views I do appreciate your gracious words.
Haha I appreciate this response. You could have very easily veered into the territory of being so "annoyed" by my "stupidity" that you started posting fan fiction about me and Kai Greene in every thread I post in. Nice to see some people can tolerate a difference of opinion without a full mental breakdown.
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Who are you trying to kid? :D Trump supporters were some of the most active supporters on social media. His facebook page outperformed hers and favorable news ( a lot of it made up) was circulated more. Facebook's algorithm helps to keep you in a content bubble with like information, but because I don't follow a lot of overtly political stuff, even I was getting a lot of Trump
I don't do FB , but one look at this forum's thread topics show the majority here were in the tank for Trump.
Seriously now, the pro-Trump posts and threads here in recent months were the vast majority.
No biggy, Trump got a clear win in the electoral college where it counts.
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I don't do FB , but one look at this forum's thread topics show the majority here were in the tank for Trump.
Seriously now, the pro-Trump posts and threads here in recent months were the vast majority.
You were in this forum about a week before the election....
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You were in this forum about a week before the election....
Yup, I was one of the few who weren't licking Trump's balls.
I was too busy licking Hillary's fart locker LOL
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We Knew All Along
All Praise Due to Bill Still, Mike Cernovich, Alex Jones, Ann Coulter etc etc
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Cernovich reaching POLYCHRONOPOLOUS type levels when it comes to being able to predict the outcome of this presidential race
Mike Cernovich Drops Truth Bombs On Red Eye Gets Banned By Fox & TV Forever
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Talk radio's Laura Ingraham eyes Senate bid
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The queen of conservative talk radio, Laura Ingraham, is eyeing a Senate run in Virginia and a challenge to Hillary Clinton's running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine.
Knowledgeable sources said that several party insiders have approached the media giant to run and that she is considering it.
In preparation for a bid, her business partner, Peter Anthony, has begun buying website domains for Ingraham to use should she decide to move forward. It includes: ingrahamsenate.net, ingrahamsenate.com, ingrahamforvirginia.com and ingraham2018.com.
Ingraham wouldn't comment on any run.
While it would be considered an uphill fight, Ingraham brings her well-known personality and several influential backers to a race that could translate into immediate media and fundraising opportunities.
Ingraham also would come to the race with a powerful media enterprise behind her. Besides her popular radio show, she also heads the news site Lifezette.com.
What's more, she is close to President-elect Trump and was even rumored to be in the running for White House press secretary, a job given to Trump adviser and longtime Republican spokesman Sean Spicer. He is also the incoming White House communications director.
The Republican primary could be crowded. Both Reps. Barbara Comstock and Dave Brat are considering a bid, and Brat has already been singled out by Kaine as a top challenger. And there are reports that former Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina, a 2010 California Senate candidate, also wants to run in Virginia.
Ingraham, a Fox News contributor and former Supreme Court clerk, is also a New York Times bestselling author who has earned a reputation for delivering zingers. In fact, one of her books is titled Of Thee I Zing.
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Good for Bill - honestly - i have no hate for him right now. what he has had to deal w that horrible pos hillary - good for him.
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Good for Bill - honestly - i have no hate for him right now. what he has had to deal w that horrible pos hillary - good for him.
They definitely deserve one another, but don't go soft on Bill.
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They definitely deserve one another, but don't go soft on Bill.
Not at all - but when it comes to hookers and broads - he gets a pass. Hillary is such a disgusting evil c unt. F her.
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Not at all - but when it comes to hookers and broads - he gets a pass. Hillary is such a disgusting evil c unt. F her.
very true ...
but is this really Bill? Looks nowhere near pudgy enough.
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very true ...
but is this really Bill? Looks nowhere near pudgy enough.
wish it were me :(