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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2006, 06:19:22 PM »
Vincent Neil Wharton, 23, lead singer for the heavy-metal band, Mötley Crüe, was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with a December 8, 1984 auto accident that left one man dead and a young couple injured. Wharton's blood alcohol level was .17, well above the legal limit of .10, when his car skidded across the median strip on The Esplanade and rammed into a oncoming car, a spokesman for Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Ira Reiner said, Nicholas Dingley (aka Razzle), a passenger in Wharton's car and the drummer for the rock band Hanoi Rocks, died in the crash."


He did get off light didn't he. At least he knows he got off easy and hasn't gone through life blaming someone else.

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2006, 06:30:26 PM »
Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2006, 09:41:39 PM »
neil also had to go to schools and do like over 100 speeches on the dangers of drunk drivin etc
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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2006, 09:55:02 PM »
Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years


M A N  you are too much - you sick and twisted MF.

I  G E T  it though - more scary

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2006, 10:03:10 PM »
Or a muscle camp coming to your area

LOL...Classic!

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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2006, 10:36:52 PM »
Or a muscle camp coming to your area

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2006, 06:22:34 PM »
Through futuristic computer technology this is what Craig will look like in just 2 years


lmao ;D

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Re: Send New Year's Greetings to Craig & Kell in jail..
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2006, 09:39:24 PM »
Picture me Rollin.......

  What an incredibly Christian and Sportsman-like attitude, Shawn! >:(

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Re: Send New Year's Greetings to Craig & Kell in jail..
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2006, 10:19:29 PM »
  What an incredibly Christian and Sportsman-like attitude, Shawn! >:(

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You are right.

Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.


Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.

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Re: Send New Year's Greetings to Craig & Kell in jail..
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2006, 10:34:13 PM »
SUCKMY,

You are right.

Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.


Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.

  When psychiatrist Robert Hare wrote his book:"Without Conscience:The Psychopaths Among Us", I'm sure he had Shawn, or someone very similar to him in mind. ;D :-\

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Re: Send New Year's Greetings to Craig & Kell in jail..
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2006, 12:15:09 AM »
SUCKMY,

You are right.

Shawn must be the ultimate one-upper in real life. Always trying to outdo family members and friends in non-competitive activities.


Good thing he never won an Olympia. We'd never hear the end of it.

LOL

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Re: Send New Year's Greetings to Craig & Kell in jail..
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2006, 01:17:50 AM »
LOL

  Don't laugh, man. You know we speak the truth. Someone has to expose Ray, for what he truly is.

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2006, 01:41:21 AM »
You know whats funny is how this is a Titus Board yet the topics in more than one thread is about Shawn Ray or they are talking about him.  And he is the one that instigated it.  I can see where he is getting jealous over the attention towards Craig.  You can tell that he is annoyed that no one was talking about him lately.  That is why he has started to come on here more. 

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2006, 08:43:04 AM »
Shawn Ray is not a a psychopath...narcissisti c perhaps, yes.  But he does draw the line whereas Craig does not have any lines or boundaries he won't cross...that is very much part of the psychopathic strcuture.

See how many psychopathic traits Craig has by going down Dr. Hare's Psychopathic Trait Checklist:

The Hare PCL-R contains two parts, a semi-structured interview and a review of the subject's file records and history. During the evaluation, the clinician scores 20 items that measure central elements of the psychopathic character. The items cover the nature of the subject's interpersonal relationships; his or her affective or emotional involvement; responses to other people and to situations; evidence of social deviance; and lifestyle. The material thus covers two key aspects that help define the psychopath: selfish and unfeeling victimization of other people, and an unstable and antisocial lifestyle.

The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:

glib and superficial charm................... .....................YES
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self.......YES
need for stimulation............. ........................ ................YES
pathological lying................... ........................ ..............YES
cunning and manipulativeness........ ........................ .....YES
lack of remorse or guilt................... ........................ ......YES
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)...YES
callousness and lack of empathy................. .................YES
parasitic lifestyle............... ........................ ....................YES
poor behavioral controls................ ........................ .......YES
sexual promiscuity............. ........................ ...................YES
early behavior problems................ ........................ .......N/A
lack of realistic long-term goals................... .................YES
impulsivity............. ........................ ........................ .......YES
irresponsibility........ ........................ ........................ ......YES
failure to accept responsibility for own actions............YES
many short-term marital relationships........... ..............YES
juvenile delinquency............. ........................ ...............N/A
criminal versatility............. ........................ ...................YES

Scary ain't it??

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2006, 09:48:52 PM »
Shawn Ray is not a a psychopath...narcissisti c perhaps, yes.  But he does draw the line whereas Craig does not have any lines or boundaries he won't cross...that is very much part of the psychopathic strcuture.

See how many psychopathic traits Craig has by going down Dr. Hare's Psychopathic Trait Checklist:

The Hare PCL-R contains two parts, a semi-structured interview and a review of the subject's file records and history. During the evaluation, the clinician scores 20 items that measure central elements of the psychopathic character. The items cover the nature of the subject's interpersonal relationships; his or her affective or emotional involvement; responses to other people and to situations; evidence of social deviance; and lifestyle. The material thus covers two key aspects that help define the psychopath: selfish and unfeeling victimization of other people, and an unstable and antisocial lifestyle.

The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:

glib and superficial charm................... .....................YES
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self.......YES
need for stimulation............. ........................ ................YES
pathological lying................... ........................ ..............YES
cunning and manipulativeness........ ........................ .....YES
lack of remorse or guilt................... ........................ ......YES
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)...YES
callousness and lack of empathy................. .................YES
parasitic lifestyle............... ........................ ....................YES
poor behavioral controls................ ........................ .......YES
sexual promiscuity............. ........................ ...................YES
early behavior problems................ ........................ .......N/A
lack of realistic long-term goals................... .................YES
impulsivity............. ........................ ........................ .......YES
irresponsibility........ ........................ ........................ ......YES
failure to accept responsibility for own actions............YES
many short-term marital relationships........... ..............YES
juvenile delinquency............. ........................ ...............N/A
criminal versatility............. ........................ ...................YES

Scary ain't it??

  If you go carefully through that list, my friend, you'll see that Shawn fullfils fourteen of those required traits. Sorry, but he is a sociopath, although one who's sociopathy is controlled by a capacity for rationality. Whcih makes him even scarier! :o :o :o :o

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2006, 10:27:15 PM »
  If you go carefully through that list, my friend, you'll see that Shawn fullfils fourteen of those required traits. Sorry, but he is a sociopath, although one who's sociopathy is controlled by a capacity for rationality. Whcih makes him even scarier! :o :o :o :o


A sociopath who is controlled by rational thinking is much less likely to cross the line, but much more likely to get away with it on those rare occasions when he does.
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2006, 10:41:27 PM »
A sociopath who is controlled by rational thinking is much less likely to cross the line, but much more likely to get away with it on those rare occasions when he does.

  Exactly! You just agreed with me. ::)

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2006, 04:51:56 PM »
hell...maybe half the damn IFBB pro lineup display at least mild psychopathic behavior

I can think of a few.....more than a few really

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2006, 02:15:07 AM »
hell...maybe half the damn IFBB pro lineup display at least mild psychopathic behavior

I can think of a few.....more than a few really

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  "Mild"?! My friend, with the sole exception of homicide, there isn't a crime which pro bodybuilders do not commit with regularity. These include cheating in competitions, abusing controlled substances, doing false advertisement, prostituting themselves("gay for pay"), leaching off others, etc. Even when it comes to murder, bodybuilders are FAR overrepresented, in relation to the rest of the population. Currently, there are two bodybuilders on death row(Bertil Fox and a former Georgia Champion, who I forgot the name), two others serving life terms(former friends of Kevin Levrone. I also forgot their names), besides Titus and Kelly. Do I need to go any further?

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2006, 04:15:50 PM »
no...you just about covered it  ;)

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2006, 04:26:28 PM »
...with the sole exception of homicide, there isn't a crime which pro bodybuilders do not commit with regularity.

Terrorism?

Rape?

Espionage?

I think you're overstating it a little.

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Re: Nu Year's Greetings to Craig n Kell in jail..
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2006, 09:11:54 PM »
Terrorism?

Rape?

Espionage?

I think you're overstating it a little.



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