Impeccable Logic by John Meadows re protein synthesis.

[deceiver]

http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/intermittent-fasting-kills-muscle

Most IF plans tout the benefits of fasted weight training. Some suggest 10 g of BCAA during training. But according to the study, consuming leucine (BCAA) without ample carbohydrate present prevented protein synthesis. In other words, any possibility of gaining muscle is eliminated when training in a fasted state, even when consuming BCAA.

Yes sir, IMPECCABLE LOGIC.

I am well aware that this imbecile reads our board so, especially for simpletons like him, I will destroy this short "column" in points.

1. Study on rats. Do I really have to add anything here?
2. Study has nothing to do with weight training.
3. Study does not prove that either group of rats has, at the end, gained more muscle mass than the other.
4. IF does not mean you train fasted...
5. On the whole, study is irrelevant and does not prove many things he claims in his article, ie. that IF "slows down" metabolism.

[dr.chimps]

Cliffs: You hate rats.

[_aj_]

If JM got them gainz just using IF and BCAAs, he's a jeanyus. We should all bow down to our new natty master.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

LOL at you challenging John Meadows. When you have top pros paying you shit loads of money for his bodybuilding and health advice, come talk to us.

[ProudVirgin69]

5. On the whole, study is irrelevant and does not prove many things he claims in his article, ie. that IF "slows down" metabolism.

The study they quoted had absolutely nothing to do with the claims they made....

In short, rats were deprived of food for 12 hours, then given a meal containing 20% protein.  Rats that were given leucine and/or carbohydrates at 135 minutes after the meal maintained peak muscle synthesis through 180 minutes.  In contrast, rats that were given water at 135 exhibited peak muscle synthesis at 90 minutes and returned to baseline at 180 minutes.

This had absolutely NOTHING to do with their claim of "But according to the study, consuming leucine (BCAA) without ample carbohydrate present prevented protein synthesis. In other words, any possibility of gaining muscle is eliminated when training in a fasted state, even when consuming BCAA."  Nor did it have anything to do with training while fasted.

I know T-Nation is a snake-oil company, but REALLY???  Did they not expect anyone to read this study?

[Schnauzer]

[Bevo]

LOL at you challenging John Meadows. When you have top pros paying him shit loads of money for his bodybuilding and health advice, come talk to us.

I'd rather pay Kamali for health advices

[Nails]

i doubt any pro bodybuilder ever consumes BCAA

[Coach is Back!]

LOL at you challenging John Meadows. When you have top pros paying him shit loads of money for his bodybuilding and health advice, come talk to us.

^^^this

[Coach is Back!]

http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/intermittent-fasting-kills-muscle

Yes sir, IMPECCABLE LOGIC.

I am well aware that this imbecile reads our board so, especially for simpletons like him, I will destroy this short "column" in points.

1. Study on rats. Do I really have to add anything here?
2. Study has nothing to do with weight training.
3. Study does not prove that either group of rats has, at the end, gained more muscle mass than the other.
4. IF does not mean you train fasted...
5. On the whole, study is irrelevant and does not prove many things he claims in his article, ie. that IF "slows down" metabolism.

Feel free to jump on Elitefts.com and challenge him on this.

[Mawse]

 The results of the study would have been markedly different if the rats had consumed grass fed beef, organic butter and red palm oil and supplemented with a selection of T-Nations excellent line of products.

I also highly doubt the rats performed Landmine Rows during their training sessions which also skews the results significantly

[_aj_]

The results of the study would have been markedly different if the rats had consumed grass fed beef, organic butter and red palm oil and supplemented with a selection of T-Nations excellent line of products.

I also highly doubt the rats performed Landmine Rows during their training sessions which also skews the results significantly

[wolfrittner]

I'd rather pay Kamali for health advices

[Hulkotron]

The results of the study would have been markedly different if the rats had consumed grass fed beef, organic butter and red palm oil and supplemented with a selection of T-Nations excellent line of products.

I also highly doubt the rats performed Landmine Rows during their training sessions which also skews the results significantly

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[polychronopolous]

Jason Blaha said you can eat unlimited carbs on tren and not gain an ounce of fat cause bulls that take tren are ripped.

[tommywishbone]

meltdown

[BayGBM]

LOL at you challenging John Meadows. When you have top pros paying him shit loads of money for his bodybuilding and health advice, come talk to us.

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[no one]

The results of the study would have been markedly different if the rats had consumed grass fed beef, organic butter and red palm oil and supplemented with a selection of T-Nations excellent line of products.

I also highly doubt the rats performed Landmine Rows during their training sessions which also skews the results significantly

awesome

[Bevo]

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That's just an excuse to post up one of your male fantasies 

[LurkerNoMore]

John Meadows has some damn good training and diet advice.  Though I am sure you have many more satisfied clients who are better built and place higher.

[ESFitness]

there's not many ppl I'd pay money to get advice from, but john is one of them.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Meadows is prob my favorite writer/coach in the industry. This article is not his best work. Dude is great.

[trapz101]

too much fancy training style,but his clients all came up shredded

[TEMPER]

$700 for a plan.

I'll break it down.

Grass fed organics everything.
Trader Joe's everything

Here is where you really get your moneys worth.

Pre workout carb powder

PERI-WORKOUT carb powder

Post workout carb powder...

Body weight in protein
Bodyweight in carbs
150 fat

BLah blah. Now pay me $700 please...

[Big Chiro Flex]

too much fancy training style,but his clients all came up shredded

 

My training partner is a client of his. I've been doing his exact program for 9 weeks. Have you even seen his actual training plans he gives his clients It's all of the basics with 1-2 "meadows" exercises thrown In there. Hardly fancy unless you're overwhelmed by a new grip or adding a supination to a standard movement.