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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Dball on October 30, 2006, 07:15:18 AM
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congrats to whateva and the rest of the participants, even the lying, whining, it-should-have-been-me crybabies.
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congrats to whateva and the rest of the participants, even the lying, whining, it-should-have-been-me crybabies.
awesome.i would love to see a similar article in flex..props to everybody on getbig.com..
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Great article, Romano!
Incredible how far the MD view of getbig has evolved over the years.
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That's pretty cool.
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Congrats guys.
Hahaha no mention of TA......owned
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They should have mentioned all involved including the sponsors,Promoter 240 and all the contestants and placings.
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Congrats guys.
Hahaha no mention of TA......owned
hahahahah, get WRECKED TA.
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Cool !
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Congrats guys.
Hahaha no mention of TA......owned
They ALLUDE to my 95 page thread for starting it.
Romano didn`t really know the full details of the contest at all.
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Details are important, TA, but the most important thing to me was that it happened. Keep the cool shit coming..... BTW, where is my submission for Romano Factor from you guys? Remember? 500 words... you guys pick the one you want.... remember??
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Details are important, TA, but the most important thing to me was that it happened. Keep the cool shit coming..... BTW, where is my submission for Romano Factor from you guys? Remember? 500 words... you guys pick the one you want.... remember??
Can I put The Adonis Principles in there?
People have been asking for them and they are about complete. Way more than 500 words, but I can condense main Principles and refer them where to get other information.
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Details are important, TA, but the most important thing to me was that it happened. Keep the cool shit coming..... BTW, where is my submission for Romano Factor from you guys? Remember? 500 words... you guys pick the one you want.... remember??
I did enjoy the writing style and the references to Oscar Wilde.
Did you know that Whateva was actaulyl a PRO BODYBUILDER.
Mindspin, in charge of the rules had no idea. I wonder how he feels about that. We did discuss it being against the rules, but oh well.
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I did enjoy the writing style and the references to Oscar Wilde.
Did you know that Whateva was actaulyl a PRO BODYBUILDER.
Mindspin, in charge of the rules had no idea. I wonder how he feels about that. We did discuss it being against the rules, but oh well.
You ever going to stop crying like a little bitch?
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i am never going to stop crying like a little bitch?
fixed it woman beater
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fixed it woman beater
Wow, this is only the what? 500th time you've changed a post of mine and you still come out looking like an asshole? I applaud your complete lack of anything remotely resembling conversational skills. I do, however, applaud your complete lack of originality and recycling of the same useless attempts at insults.
The SQUAD's book publishing deal is almost finished and we expect to release a book on ownings in early '07. You should reserve your copy with Amazon today.
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wanker ::)
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I did enjoy the writing style and the references to Oscar Wilde.
Did you know that Whateva was actaulyl a PRO BODYBUILDER.
Mindspin, in charge of the rules had no idea. I wonder how he feels about that. We did discuss it being against the rules, but oh well.
TA, you are the true winner of the contest. Pho Phun is a Pro and disguised himself for that very reason. We know he isn't camera shy, his pic was all over the net priior to the contest. He was hiding from the judges, what a scam artists. Typical for a pro bodybuilder, win at all costs even if it means cheating.
Mindspin did post his opinion on the Getbig board, and seems to me he is blaming it on us rather than accepting blame himself and taking expedient action to rectify this injustice.
and what an embarressment for the first Getbig winner to be posing with a girls wig on in MD. What a jerk.
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They ALLUDE to my 95 page thread for starting it.
Romano didn`t really know the full details of the contest at all.
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wanker ::)
How fitting that you can't sit down and think of a reply to that. What's it feel like having the intellectual capacity of a 4 year old who raised on bleach instead of milk?
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I did enjoy the writing style and the references to Oscar Wilde.
Did you know that Whateva was actaulyl a PRO BODYBUILDER.
Mindspin, in charge of the rules had no idea. I wonder how he feels about that. We did discuss it being against the rules, but oh well.
Just a guess but I think this is one of the reasons why Romano didn't include you.
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congrats to whateva and the rest of the participants, even the lying, whining, it-should-have-been-me crybabies.
which MD issue was that. I'll go get it
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How fitting that you can't sit down and think of a reply to that. What's it feel like having the intellectual capacity of a 4 year old who raised on bleach instead of milk?
whats it feel like when everyone knows you get off on hitting girls
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whats it feel like when everyone knows you get off on hitting girls
Is this all you got? BORING.
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Is this all you got? BORING.
boring or not its the truth
you should be ashamed of yourself
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boring or not its the truth
you should be ashamed of yourself
So, post your proof of me beating women. Make my day. You might as well start editing posts now. With your motor skills it might take you a good hour or two.
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So, post your proof of me beating women. Make my day. You might as well start editing posts now. With your motor skills it might take you a good hour or two.
woman beater meltdown
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which MD issue was that. I'll go get it
the new one. i just got it in the mail
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I would like to hear Mindspin`s opinion on a PRO BODYBUILDER purposely disguising himslef and cheating the rules.
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I would like to hear Mindspin`s opinion on a PRO BODYBUILDER purposely disguising himslef and cheating the rules.
he's too busy trying to incline the 150's. ::)
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I would like to hear Mindspin`s opinion on a PRO BODYBUILDER purposely disguising himslef and cheating the rules.
the only allusion to prohibiting a pro to enter is in the original thread where Tainted Anus and his lackeys talk about what THEY think the rules should be. the actual MrGetbig site says nothing of the sort. if someone entered the contest and only read the ACTUAL contest site where rules are posted, which -by the way- are the only rules that matter, then a pro could have entered.
good job, whateva
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I would like to hear Mindspin`s opinion on a PRO BODYBUILDER purposely disguising himslef and cheating the rules.
I don't know what you intentions are in ths "sport" but will have a ton of trouble getting real exposure and influencing people. You have absolutely no people skills. everything you are going to get in life will come from other people. Being arrogant, a know-it-all, demaning, and a whining bitch won't want to make anyone do anything for you.
I'm sure it's no accident Ramano left you out of his article.
Get used to being snubbed.
You bring it upon yourself.
All you'll ever get is your self-promoting publicity.
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the new one. i just got it in the mail
Thanks
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the only allusion to prohibiting a pro to enter is in the original thread where Tainted Anus and his lackeys talk about what THEY think the rules should be. the actual MrGetbig site says nothing of the sort. if someone entered the contest and only read the ACTUAL contest site where rules are posted, which -by the way- are the only rules that matter, then a pro could have entered.
good job, whateva
This comes down to morality. Every organization has every right to disqualify a member if their behavior is deemed immoral. Even if it wasn't in the official rules, the organization can still act if it feels the member was acting out of malice and trickery. I believe he was, it was a devilish scheme. I believe by not acting the organizers are further advancing his scheme and making themselves and the members of getbig look like suckers.
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I would like to hear Mindspin`s opinion on a PRO BODYBUILDER purposely disguising himslef and cheating the rules.
Mindspin
There's a clock in my head...
Re: yes I 'm a pro
« Reply #94 on: Today at 05:42:05 » Quote
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Thanks 240 for pointing me to this thread. As I mentioned on another thread yesterday, I've been off the boards for the last few weeks (just got back from Maui), so I am just now learning of this. I scanned through this thread. Here are my thoughts:
After taking in input from anyone willing to give it, I posted the Mr. Get Big rules. After doing so, I asked for additional feedback before making them final. I specifically asked for feedback from the competitors. Not once did anyone suggest that no pros should be allowed to compete. Whateva played by the rules. He earned his 1st place fair and square.
On the other hand, True Adonis missed his entry deadline. However, I decided to give him a break and allow his late entry to be admitted (see...I'm a nice guy ). Had I known then what a sore and pathetic loser he would turn out to be, I would have probably not done so. Of course, that would have lead to an entire "conspiracy theory" by the Geek Squad, so in retrospect, I think everything played out as it should.
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Mindspin
There's a clock in my head...
Re: yes I 'm a pro
« Reply #94 on: Today at 05:42:05 » Quote
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Thanks 240 for pointing me to this thread. As I mentioned on another thread yesterday, I've been off the boards for the last few weeks (just got back from Maui), so I am just now learning of this. I scanned through this thread. Here are my thoughts:
After taking in input from anyone willing to give it, I posted the Mr. Get Big rules. After doing so, I asked for additional feedback before making them final. I specifically asked for feedback from the competitors. Not once did anyone suggest that no pros should be allowed to compete. Whateva played by the rules. He earned his 1st place fair and square.
On the other hand, True Adonis missed his entry deadline. However, I decided to give him a break and allow his late entry to be admitted (see...I'm a nice guy ). Had I known then what a sore and pathetic loser he would turn out to be, I would have probably not done so. Of course, that would have lead to an entire "conspiracy theory" by the Geek Squad, so in retrospect, I think everything played out as it should.
Every organization has formal and informal rules. Yes the formal rules did not mention the pro status. However what about the informal rules? the ones unwritten but we all know about?. Lets say the winner of getbig was discovered to be a child molestor or say wanted for murder, would he still be able to keep his title? No he would not. Every organization has the power to make a moral judgement outside of the formal rules. And in this case I believe hiding his pro status purposely in order to impress the judges was cheating. It was dishonest and unfair to the other competitors and certainly grounds for removing his title.
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Every organization has formal and informal rules. Yes the formal rules did not mention the pro status. However what about the informal rules? the ones unwritten but we all know about?. Lets say the winner of getbig was discovered to be a child molestor or say wanted for murder, would he still be able to keep his title? No he would not. Every organization has the power to make a moral judgement outside of the formal rules. And in this case I believe hiding his pro status purposely in order to impress the judges was cheating. It was dishonest and unfair to the other competitors and certainly grounds for removing his title.
But then what would you say about TA missing his deadline? Would you suggest they both be disqualified?
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Mindspin
There's a clock in my head...
Re: yes I 'm a pro
« Reply #94 on: Today at 05:42:05 » Quote
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Thanks 240 for pointing me to this thread. As I mentioned on another thread yesterday, I've been off the boards for the last few weeks (just got back from Maui), so I am just now learning of this. I scanned through this thread. Here are my thoughts:
After taking in input from anyone willing to give it, I posted the Mr. Get Big rules. After doing so, I asked for additional feedback before making them final. I specifically asked for feedback from the competitors. Not once did anyone suggest that no pros should be allowed to compete. Whateva played by the rules. He earned his 1st place fair and square.
On the other hand, True Adonis missed his entry deadline. However, I decided to give him a break and allow his late entry to be admitted (see...I'm a nice guy ). Had I known then what a sore and pathetic loser he would turn out to be, I would have probably not done so. Of course, that would have lead to an entire "conspiracy theory" by the Geek Squad, so in retrospect, I think everything played out as it should.
You fucking liar, my pictures weren`t late.
240, Clear this shit up for Mindspin please.
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240 clear it up for me.
Mindspin obviously does not know what he is talking about.
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You're such a whining pussy it's disgusting. You lost, get over it and try lifting.
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TA emailed me before the deadline and asked when I needed them. I gave him a time which was my web design timeline. i didn't know what the official timeline was. I took the hit for that one... I jsut had my head in the monster framework design and seriously didn't even look at the ruled time.
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TA emailed me before the deadline and asked when I needed them. I gave him a time which was my web design timeline. i didn't know what the official timeline was. I took the hit for that one... I jsut had my head in the monster framework design and seriously didn't even look at the ruled time.
Monster reading comprehension by TA
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But then what would you say about TA missing his deadline? Would you suggest they both be disqualified?
Well it would be up to the judges, Just like any judge they have to make decisions outside the formal written law. Even Ron here on getbig has to make decisions outside of what is written in the formal rules of conduct at getbig.com. If TA did in fact miss the deadline, the judges would need to find out why and make a decision. But as far as purposely hiding ones pro status to decietfully impress the judges was clearly breaking the universal informal rule of fair sportsmanship and just plain morality.
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Very cool.
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TA is such a whiny bitch it makes me sick to my stomach, how come everyone hates you you sack of shit.you must truly have a miserable life, with your super superiority complex.
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haha TA's picks were late and barely visible and yet no one talks about him breaking the rules? his fucking pics were studio lighting, this homo went all out to receive second place in a online contest and then proclaims his greatness. he beat a 100 year old, a moron, someone who doesnt work out, and a guy so black he couldnt be seen. oh ya and the dude with the weirdest backwards bending thighs and non-exsistent calves. not to mention we couldnt see adonises calves due to the lighting. he got whooped face it bitches
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haha TA's picks were late and barely visible and yet no one talks about him breaking the rules? his fucking pics were studio lighting, this homo went all out to receive second place in a online contest and then proclaims his greatness. he beat a 100 year old, a moron, someone who doesnt work out, and a guy so black he couldnt be seen. oh ya and the dude with the weirdest backwards bending thighs and non-exsistent calves. not to mention we couldnt see adonises calves due to the lighting. he got whooped face it bitches
You're a little TOO obsessed with Adonis...
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Well it would be up to the judges, Just like any judge they have to make decisions outside the formal written law. Even Ron here on getbig has to make decisions outside of what is written in the formal rules of conduct at getbig.com. If TA did in fact miss the deadline, the judges would need to find out why and make a decision. But as far as purposely hiding ones pro status to decietfully impress the judges was clearly breaking the universal informal rule of fair sportsmanship and just plain morality.
I feel fine about TA's submission as it seems he actually took the pics in the determined time frame:
From Mindspin:
"Every judge voted Whateva for 1st. By the way, I could actually disqulify TA. You see, he did not submit his pics by the deadline as stated in the rules. He was a day late."
"His pics were taken within the required time period. They were turned in a day late though. It was unintensional miscomunication from someone to TA. I would have done the same for any other competitor."
"I do believe TA made an honest oversight. He took the pics within the specified time frame, but turned them in one day late. So, it gave him no advantage."
But I also have seen no evidence that Whateva purposely hid his pro status (even Bast's face was missing). There are other reasons for not wanting your face posted on getbig as I'm sure you've witnessed several photoshops....some hilarious, and some disturbing.
The main point is that it was not written in the final rules that someone could not be a pro.
TA should be happy about his transformation. That took a lot of discipline and hard work. :)
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You're a little TO
O obsessed with Adonis...
sorry i hate swimmers, they drowned my mom, im projecting will keep under control in the future.
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I take the blame for the pic timeline mistake- he asked before the deadline and I gave him a tim which was after the official deadline, which I didn't know. I think he wanted to take some after work or something, and I said no problem. There were some growing pains to this contest, but he certainly couldn't be penalized for something I told him.
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stop trying to bend the fucking rules, the pics got there late regardless, everyone is willing to make exceptions that benefit true anus but none of the other competitors, let baby herc re do his pics they were dark-then adonis would be in thrid. the rules are the rules, regardless.
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stop trying to bend the fucking rules, the pics got there late regardless, everyone is willing to make exceptions that benefit true anus but none of the other competitors, let baby herc re do his pics they were dark-then adonis would be in thrid. the rules are the rules, regardless.
You realize you can't penalize someone when one of the creators of the contest gives him the wrong info, be it Adonis or not. You know if this was Bast or Alexxx we were talking about you wouldn't be complaining. You've got a lust for TA nuts is all.
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TA, you are the true winner of the contest. Pho Phun is a Pro and disguised himself for that very reason. We know he isn't camera shy, his pic was all over the net priior to the contest. He was hiding from the judges, what a scam artists. Typical for a pro bodybuilder, win at all costs even if it means cheating.
Mindspin did post his opinion on the Getbig board, and seems to me he is blaming it on us rather than accepting blame himself and taking expedient action to rectify this injustice.
and what an embarressment for the first Getbig winner to be posing with a girls wig on in MD. What a jerk.
No one figured the winner would be in MD representing. You guys should have takne yourselves more seriously.
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It is hillarious to me to think that if anyone else came in second, Whateva would have been disqualified so quick. Or if he revealed from the VERY START that he WAS A PRO, he would have been disqualified and not permitted to be in it. If I remember right a few other natural Pros were turned down because of their PRO status. Hillarious the double standards there are when it comes to the King Adonis.
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They should have mentioned all involved....
that would have made for some poor reading....especially the other contestants
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if Adonis had won the Mr GetBig, would MD have printed TA's photo with the crown on his head?
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i think cock fury has lust for me, keeps quoting my posts, major homo. bet your the type of guy who does male ATM's for food stamps.
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No one figured the winner would be in MD representing. You guys should have takne yourselves more seriously.
Absolutley, I said that from the moment I saw whateva's pics, I posted the fact that if he won the title it would make a mockery of the contest as viewed from the outside. I was right. Whateva made a joke of the first getbig.com. I believe his title should be removed.
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But I also have seen no evidence that Whateva purposely hid his pro status (even Bast's face was missing). There are other reasons for not wanting your face posted on getbig as I'm sure you've witnessed several photoshops....some hilarious, and some disturbing.
Nonsense, he clearly was trying to hide his pro status by wearing a girl's wig and glasses. His devilish grin belies any denial of this fact. His picture was already on the internet and now it is on getbig and he has not complained. His condescending prank has undermined the effort that the other contestents put in. Plain and simple he violated the informal rules or fair sportsmanship and basic decent morality.
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Absolutley, I said that from the moment I saw whateva's pics, I posted the fact that if he won the title it would make a mockery of the contest as viewed from the outside. I was right. Whateva made a joke of the first getbig.com. I believe his title should be removed.
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You're just pissed that you and your SQUAT buddies can no longer use the "Sarcasm" handle. Oh, boo hoo hoo.
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(http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/japan/bugs/723.jpg)
Do you realize that bringing attention to Whateva's ethnicity and your racist tendencies isn't helping your cause?
You're intelligent enough to understand that right?
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The silly thing about all of this is trying to make whateva out to be a "pro"; "PRO!" professional, or whatever.
They give those stupid natural pro cards out like they give money to bums on the street. The vast majority haven't been training very long, aren't very good, or much more advanced than TA anyway.
Quit making whateva out to be some seasoned IFBB PRO, Adonis. He's probably been training just as long and is as old as that whining BITCH Adonis (yes, all capitals in BITCH - just like TA writes PRO)
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hardly, maybe some of you guys are defending Fee Fi Fo and his drag costume because you don't want to see TA the winner. I would hate to promote TA's ego as well but fair is fair. Whateva's prank was condescending and made a fool of everyone here. He has owned you all.
And for all you guys who cry about how unfair the IFBB contests are, here is a chance to do the right thing.
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Or if he revealed from the VERY START that he WAS A PRO, instead of hiding like a little VC, he would have been disqualified and not permitted to be in it.
Whoa, dude, watch the racism there.
And you wonder why people don't like you.
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hardly, maybe some of you guys are defending Fee Fi Fo and his drag costume because you don't want to see TA the winner. I would hate to promote TA's ego as well but fair is fair. Whateva's prank was condescending and made a fool of everyone here. He has owned you all.
And for all you guys who cry about how unfair the IFBB contests are, here is a chance to do the right thing.
Rules are rules. TA should be disqualified.
He should have been responsible to turn in his own pictures. This isn't grade school where you can say my dog ate my homework.
He could have read and executed the rules. He's a big boy--just ask him.
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Rules are rules. TA should be disqualified.
He should have been responsible to turn in his own pictures. This isn't grade school where you can say my dog ate my homework.
He could have read and executed the rules. He's a big boy--just ask him.
You realize one of the two people running the contest gave him the wrong information? No one should be at fault for that.
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Rules are rules. TA should be disqualified.
He should have been responsible to turn in his own pictures. This isn't grade school where you can say my dog ate my homework.
He could have read and executed the rules. He's a big boy--just ask him.
Every single variable and miniscule exception cannot be written into the formal rules of a contest. That is why there is a judge and this case it was Mindspin and 240. These guys were supposed to interpret the rules with the best interest of the competitors involved. In TA's case they determined giving him a few more hours since he worked a full time job was OK. Sounds fair to me. But allowing Whateva to keep his title when he clearly disguised himself to appear as an amatuer in effort to impress the judges (and make a fool out of everyone involved) was not in the best interest of all the competitors. The way 240 complains about the IFBB one would think he would be fair in his own contest. Oh well it is halloween. Trick or treat... You guys have been fooled.
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Do you realize that bringing attention to Whateva's ethnicity and your racist tendencies isn't helping your cause?
You're intelligent enough to understand that right?
I`m not racist. I hate people equally. Every race has an equal opportunity to be made fun of.
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Every single variable and miniscule exception cannot be written into the formal rules of a contest. That is why there is a judge and this case it was Mindspin and 240. These guys were supposed to interpret the rules with the best interest of the competitors involved. In TA's case they determined giving him a few more hours since he worked a full time job was OK. Sounds fair to me. But allowing Whateva to keep his title when he clearly disguised himself to appear as an amatuer in effort to impress the judges (and make a fool out of everyone involved) was not in the best interest of all the competitors. The way 240 complains about the IFBB one would think he would be fair in his own contest. Oh well it is halloween. Trick or treat... You guys have been fooled.
I agree.
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I agree.
you didn't read the rules?
You relied on 240 to read them for you?
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you didn't read the rules?
You relied on 240 to read them for you?
I relied on the rulemakers and the implied rules.
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I relied on the rulemakers and the implied rules.
That's because you are a moron.
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No one figured the winner would be in MD representing.
I am glad you picked up the story. A good read.
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there is no such thing as interpretation of the rules,if you do this-this happens, this is the basis of law making. no leeway, late is late who gives a shit how it happened. what about the shitty lighted pics? clearly hiding those monster calves
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Romano, what kind of stuff are you looking for with these 500 word essays? Do you want training information, what?
Chris
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Pretty cool Romano :)
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They ALLUDE to my 95 page thread for starting it.
Romano didn`t really know the full details of the contest at all.
He should of asked.
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Great article, Romano!
Incredible how far the MD view of getbig has evolved over the years.
Yea, almost like,... If you can't beat em, join em ;D
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Every single variable and miniscule exception cannot be written into the formal rules of a contest. That is why there is a judge and this case it was Mindspin and 240. These guys were supposed to interpret the rules with the best interest of the competitors involved. In TA's case they determined giving him a few more hours since he worked a full time job was OK. Sounds fair to me. But allowing Whateva to keep his title when he clearly disguised himself to appear as an amatuer in effort to impress the judges (and make a fool out of everyone involved) was not in the best interest of all the competitors. The way 240 complains about the IFBB one would think he would be fair in his own contest. Oh well it is halloween. Trick or treat... You guys have been fooled.
Yeah obviously Whateva was trying to make fools of everyone ::) Where do you get that shit? Oh that's right, you get it straight from the tap when you "help" TA get rid of all that extra protein that his shriveled physique doesn't need ;D
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congrats to whateva and the rest of the participants, even the lying, whining, it-should-have-been-me crybabies.
and they say cheaters never prosper.........
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I`m not racist. I hate people equally. Every race has an equal opportunity to be made fun of.
hahhahah This gook thinks he can outlift me but won`t take my challenge.
ANY LIFT.
100 dollars. Videotaped.
What is it going to be?
I will beat you on any strength exercise. Free weights,dumbbells,machines. MAN THE f**k UP.
Why did you call whateva a gook?
YIP
Zack
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instead of hiding like a little VC,
you are a fucking toolshed, you racist fuck. all the bullshit you post, all the lies, all the whining, and you have the irreverence to allude to someones race? what a low class move.
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Why did you call whateva a gook?
YIP
Zack
Because he is. Plain and simple. There is no such thing as racism.
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Because he is. Plain and simple. There is no such thing as racism.
you are a fucking toolshed, you racist f**k. all the bullshit you post, all the lies, all the whining, and you have the irreverence to allude to someones race? what a low class move.
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Racism is only racism if you call it racism. The only person that can make you feel inferior is yourself.
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:-\ At some point TA's mom must have been gangbanged by a group of Vietnamese businessmen on a trip to the US looking for some old fashioned Carolina "entertainment", there's no other explanation why someone would be that blatently racist...Be proud of who you are TA!!
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Ahh..
I don't know whether I am the first person to say this but that article was a page of hopelessly romantic nonsense that disappointed me. It shed the "iron warrior poet" light on what is and will always be a trashy soap opera style atmosphere here. God, truly, if I wanted getbig to be represented in print it would not be that way. Perhaps the only positive thing is that we may have some idealistic "fresh meat" with whom this type of writing may resonate with in the coming weeks.
To me, Getbig has been misrepresented and it is up to a willing participant to more accurately advertise our fine "community" in all its (scummy) glory. Perhaps I shall compose a discourse defending the concept of getbig and our concept of general free speech for John to consider.
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I am glad you picked up the story. A good read.
Thanks!!
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Racism is only racism if you call it racism. The only person that can make you feel inferior is yourself.
This is one of the fucking dumbest thing ever typed. I don't even know what to type after this, I'm so stunned at your stupidity.
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That article was written extremly well. :o
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Whateva won fair and sqaire. Even a murderer would still hold the crown if they played by the rules. I see no reason for a DQ for what they do outside of the contest, unless specified in the rules. Why can't people let all the "unofficial rules" crap go and accept the REAL rules?
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Whateva won fair and sqaire. Even a murderer would still hold the crown if they played by the rules. I see no reason for a DQ for what they do outside of the contest, unless specified in the rules. Why can't people let all the "unofficial rules" crap go and accept the REAL rules?
Some ethics you have there. What about the basic ethics of sportsmanship that everyone learns in the 1st grade. Dont cheat. Be honest. Play fair.
If you guys can't agree on a DQ how about this, Whateva keeps his title but gets an asterix next to it. .....Mr GetBig 2006*......... *= Hid his Pro status from judges with a girl's wig.
whateva deserves a DQ, What he did only proves the stereotype.
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Its hard to tell whether he was hiding his pro status or his identity. Hiding his identity from getbig is far from unethical and quite expected.
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wateva won it this time , but next time he will get crushed by me
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Even a murderer would still hold the crown if they played by the rules.
BETIL?
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He should of asked.
Why? I wasn't competing. I just break the news, I don't try to fix it.
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Why? I wasn't competing. I just break the news, I don't try to fix it.
no excuses Romano.
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Its hard to tell whether he was hiding his pro status or his identity. Hiding his identity from getbig is far from unethical and quite expected.
He was hiding his pro status. His picture was already published on other sites on the internet. If he wanted to hide his identity from getbig he would have done what Bast did and not shown his face at all. He wore the wig to make a further mockery of the contest. Furthermore if one is so ashamed to be associated with getbig but nt other bb websites then why join the contest at all?
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He was hiding his pro status. His picture was already published on other sites on the internet. If he wanted to hide his identity from getbig he would have done what Bast did and not shown his face at all. He wore the wig to make a further mockery of the contest. Furthermore if one is so ashamed to be associated with getbig but nt other bb websites then why join the contest at all?
Get your facts straight.
You weren't allowed to hide the face like Bast did.
The rules allowed for a wig and sunglasses, or similar.
Bast, for whatever reason (well, he's not the brightest bulb in the lighthouse), could not get a wig and a pair of sunglasses.
He was allowed to compete anyways.
whateva sticked to the rules.
Both TA and Bast broke the rules, but were allowed to compete anyways.
Why aren't you questioning their eligibility?
YIP
Zack
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This is one of the fucking dumbest thing ever typed. I don't even know what to type after this, I'm so stunned at your stupidity.
Sounds like it was taken right out of the KKK hand book.
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First thing, this WAS NOT an AMATUER contest. This contest could be considered a professional event. We gave away prizes and cash all having monetary value. Once an athletes competes and recieves compensation he is considered a professional. Even if this show wasn't sanctioned. WHat he did reminded me of what this little guy did in the WSM. He was carrying that stone thing and his arms were so short he couldn't get them around the stone. SO he used a belt or something and it made it easier for him to carry the stone. Everyone complanied but there was nothing in the rules saying he couldn't use something. Also reminds me of an event I entered. The rules state in armwrestling your belt can't be above the table top. Allot of guys like to stand on blocks or have really tall shoes or stand on their toes to get taller (an advantage). So they made that rule. Well a guy I armwrestled wanted as much advantage as he could get. So he stepped up on a box whihc made him about 6" taller. His belt was well above the table. The ref said hey you can't do that. SO the guy pulled his pants down. Now his belt was below the table. Everyone laughed and couldn't belieive but he pointed out the rules and it stuck. Too bad I kicked his ass anyways. But, he played by the rules just found a loophole. Exactly what Whateva did. He found a loophole. Deep down he knew what he was doing but no one asked him before so why not.
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Get your facts straight.
You weren't allowed to hide the face like Bast did.
The rules allowed for a wig and sunglasses, or similar.
Bast, for whatever reason (well, he's not the brightest bulb in the lighthouse), could not get a wig and a pair of sunglasses.
He was allowed to compete anyways.
whateva sticked to the rules.
Both TA and Bast broke the rules, but were allowed to compete anyways.
Why aren't you questioning their eligibility?
YIP
Zack
While they did break the rules, it was minor and allowing them to compete was for the betterment of the contest and getbig.
But duping the judges into thinking your an amateur was un-sportsman like conduct anyway you slice it.
I can also remember the responses whateva's pictures prompted on the boards that week. He was asked by a lot of very surprised and impressed posters if he ever competed before, what contests and if he ever planned on being a pro. He had opportunities to come clean but didn't. Why? because the judges would have been less impressed with him and more impressed with the work TA, alexxx and the rest put into their physiques. They put their hearts into it. They weren't experienced pros stepping off the circut to scam a few prizes from an amateur competition.
Imagine doing what he did to win a few prizes. These pros must really desperate. Give them a salary for godsake.
One way to settle this is to ask the judges if they believed at the time of the judging that all the contestants were amatures. Also ask the sponsors if they believed at the time they offered the prizes that the prizes would go to an amateur not a pro. If the answer is Yes, he should be out.
I know a lot of you guys agree with me but don't want to see TA the winner because he is a pompous ass. He may be, but realize this, we complain incessantly about unfairness in IFBB competitions and the hypocrisy of the bodybuilding industry as a whole. Now here we are doing the exact same thing. Turning a blind eye, letting someone steal from the cookie jar. Giving an early Christmas gift.
I am particularly dismayed at 240 who stands on the soapbox all the time against bodybuilding infractions but now in his own contest he is unusually quiet.
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I am particularly dismayed at 240 who stands on the soapbox all the time against bodybuilding infractions but now in his own contest he is unusually quiet.
Actually, if you recall, I was the guy posting pics of Phoun and Whateva side by side. I pointed out that both the man named Phoun and the competitor Whateva lived and competed in the same state. When it was just a casual mention on MD by Layne, I dug and dug so that all the relevant information could be out there.
As we established early on, I was in charge of promotions, the website, and the prizes. mindspin set up the rules, chose the judges, and handled the results.
Do I like the fact that Phoun did what he did? Of course not. But I have no power in that department. He won according to the rules in place.
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Some ethics you have there. What about the basic ethics of sportsmanship that everyone learns in the 1st grade. Dont cheat. Be honest. Play fair.
If you guys can't agree on a DQ how about this, Whateva keeps his title but gets an asterix next to it. .....Mr GetBig 2006*......... *= Hid his Pro status from judges with a girl's wig.
whateva deserves a DQ, What he did only proves the stereotype.
There was no rule stating he couldn't enter because he's a pro. Simple as that.
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While they did break the rules, it was minor and allowing them to compete was for the betterment of the contest and getbig.
But duping the judges into thinking your an amateur was un-sportsman like conduct anyway you slice it.
I can also remember the responses whateva's pictures prompted on the boards that week. He was asked by a lot of very surprised and impressed posters if he ever competed before, what contests and if he ever planned on being a pro. He had opportunities to come clean but didn't. Why? because the judges would have been less impressed with him and more impressed with the work TA, alexxx and the rest put into their physiques. They put their hearts into it. They weren't experienced pros stepping off the circut to scam a few prizes from an amateur competition.
Imagine doing what he did to win a few prizes. These pros must really desperate. Give them a salary for godsake.
One way to settle this is to ask the judges if they believed at the time of the judging that all the contestants were amatures. Also ask the sponsors if they believed at the time they offered the prizes that the prizes would go to an amateur not a pro. If the answer is Yes, he should be out.
I know a lot of you guys agree with me but don't want to see TA the winner because he is a pompous ass. He may be, but realize this, we complain incessantly about unfairness in IFBB competitions and the hypocrisy of the bodybuilding industry as a whole. Now here we are doing the exact same thing. Turning a blind eye, letting someone steal from the cookie jar. Giving an early Christmas gift.
I am particularly dismayed at 240 who stands on the soapbox all the time against bodybuilding infractions but now in his own contest he is unusually quiet.
So you continue to say that we should not DQ guys who broke the written rules but DQ a guy who broke an unwritten rule? Yeah, that would be fair ::)
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I bet Whateva really regrets wearing the goofy wig now, could have had his mug in a mag as big time as MD and looked like a champion. Now he just looks like a clown in that pic, people are probally wondering, "why the wig?"
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I bet Whateva really regrets wearing the goofy wig now, could have had his mug in a mag as big time as MD and looked like a champion. Now he just looks like a clown in that pic, people are probally wondering, "why the wig?"
absolutely, I hope Mindspin realizes the comical wig and glasses rule has to go next year. I knew it was going to be a problem as soon as I saw whateva in it. I had a feeling magazines would pick up on the contest because it is a good idea and I knew the humor in the wig would not translate well when reported in the media.
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While they did break the rules, it was minor and allowing them to compete was for the betterment of the contest and getbig.
But duping the judges into thinking your an amateur was un-sportsman like conduct anyway you slice it.
I can also remember the responses whateva's pictures prompted on the boards that week. He was asked by a lot of very surprised and impressed posters if he ever competed before, what contests and if he ever planned on being a pro. He had opportunities to come clean but didn't. Why? because the judges would have been less impressed with him and more impressed with the work TA, alexxx and the rest put into their physiques. They put their hearts into it. They weren't experienced pros stepping off the circut to scam a few prizes from an amateur competition.
Imagine doing what he did to win a few prizes. These pros must really desperate. Give them a salary for godsake.
One way to settle this is to ask the judges if they believed at the time of the judging that all the contestants were amatures. Also ask the sponsors if they believed at the time they offered the prizes that the prizes would go to an amateur not a pro. If the answer is Yes, he should be out.
I know a lot of you guys agree with me but don't want to see TA the winner because he is a pompous ass. He may be, but realize this, we complain incessantly about unfairness in IFBB competitions and the hypocrisy of the bodybuilding industry as a whole. Now here we are doing the exact same thing. Turning a blind eye, letting someone steal from the cookie jar. Giving an early Christmas gift.
I am particularly dismayed at 240 who stands on the soapbox all the time against bodybuilding infractions but now in his own contest he is unusually quiet.
Like looking down the barrel of a K-98, 500 yards out from an unsuspecting target. Good post.
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Thanks TA, I tried, but it looks like these guys here are not going to turn over their decision. Its become a popularity contest. But at least there will always be an asterix next to whateva's name in the Mr. Getbig Hall of Fame, or should it be Shame.
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Thanks TA, I tried, but it looks like these guys here are not going to turn over their decision. Its become a popularity contest. But at least there will always be an asterix next to whateva's name in the Mr. Getbig Hall of Fame, or should it be Shame.
Yes because when the guy who clearly has the better physique and who played by the rules beats the guy who had a worse physique than him and should have been DQ'd, it's a popularity contest ::) Since when did 'popularity' become synonymous with 'best bodybuilder'?
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Yes because when the guy who clearly has the better physique and who played by the rules beats the guy who had a worse physique than him and should have been DQ'd, it's a popularity contest ::) Since when did 'popularity' become synonymous with 'best bodybuilder'?
It's a popularity contest because if Alexxx had placed second you can be sure whatever Mr. Getbig 2006* would have been removed by now. Since it is the True Adonis, who is not liked by many including you, everyone is abandoning him. Complete hypocrisy.
* = Won under controversy. Real name, Phoun Fool-an, was actually a Pro bodybuilder who concealed his identity with a girl's wig to fool judges to win cheap prizes. Led to the banning of Pros from all future Getbig.com contests. Some believe it was a dispicable thing to do and are compaigning for Pros to recieve food stamps so they will not resort to such desperate attempts to win protein powder.
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LOL!!!!!! nycbull, let it go. Whateva didn't break any rule and won a clean victory. Where did you hear it led to banning of future pros?
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LOL!!!!!! nycbull, let it go. Whateva didn't break any rule and won a clean victory. Where did you hear it led to banning of future pros?
I am letting it go. But the asterix stays.
Well Mindspin and 240's responses were on the order of "live and learn. Next year we will do better." I assume that means no Pros. I hope they also ad a disclaimer that allows some fair and reasonable interpretation of the written formal rules of the contest. They also need a morality clause as well but one that doesn't conflict with equal opportunity to all.
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I am letting it go. But the asterix stays.
Well Mindspin and 240's responses were on the order of "live and learn. Next year we will do better." I assume that means no Pros. I hope they also ad a disclaimer that allows some fair and reasonable interpretation of the written formal rules of the contest. They also need a morality clause as well but one that doesn't conflict with equal opportunity to all.
Assuming isn't definite. We'll see next year. I think what the rules are should be the only rules. Aslong as it's all outlined clearly there will be no need for any arguement over the validity of the win, unless it's just friendly banter about physiques. What's a morality clause?
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Assuming isn't definite. We'll see next year. I think what the rules are should be the only rules. As long as it's all outlined clearly there will be no need for any argument over the validity of the win, unless it's just friendly banter about physiques. What's a morality clause?
In every contests the judges have wiggle room. It is not a democratic process. The judge or judges have final say based on the rules, thats why the rules have to allow for some interpretation. There should also be an appeal process if the contestant thinks the judge acted out of unfair bias. Morality clause like if the contestant or winner acts in a way that is unsportsman like i.e. cheating, lying, or any malice act towards the contestants or the contest. Also any criminal history of murder, molestation, polygamy ;D
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In every contests the judges have wiggle room. It is not a democratic process. The judge or judges have final say based on the rules, thats why the rules have to allow for some interpretation. There should also be an appeal process if the contestant thinks the judge acted out of unfair bias. Morality clause like if the contestant or winner acts in a way that is unsportsman like i.e. cheating, lying, or any malice act towards the contestants or the contest. Also any criminal history of murder, molestation, polygamy ;D
I'm not opposed to polygamy. If a guy can pull off having more than one chic then lucky him :P
Andif we're letting NPC competitors in i see no problem with Natural Pros. They have no advantage over anyone else in the contest whatsoever so who cares?