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Title: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 06:56:06 AM
Fuck niell assgrass tyson n einstiten

If you are on a face time call on earth to an astronaut twin brother traveling faster than speed of light, then acccording to time dialation , once astranaut came back to earth that astranaut may be 15 years younger looking than you

Simply not true

Because if you were on a face time call that entire time for 30 earth years watching terminater 2 50,000 times there would be no fucking time dialation because you would have bothd watched the movie the same exact amount of times/hours/minutes/ect thus absolutley no differences in time between your twin brother and you regardless of how fast he was going!
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 24, 2015, 07:17:14 AM
hmm but you didn't discuss the speed of image on the iphone

not sure the prize is in the bag yet
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 24, 2015, 07:21:45 AM
Mind = blowned
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 07:24:19 AM
hmm but you didn't discuss the speed of image on the iphone

not sure the prize is in the bag yet
if they were both watchin t2 the same amount of times then theres no difference in time

Its so stupidly amazingly simple but being 6feet7 i see the world for what it is
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: el numero uno on March 24, 2015, 07:25:21 AM
Marty do you think you could take Einstein in a rap battle?

Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: greeneyes on March 24, 2015, 07:34:20 AM
Marty is not standing in the shoulder of giants, he is the giant himself.
By the way yesterday I saw something uncommon Marty. As I was smoking a cig in my balcony I saw a light moving fast in a publicity pannel at the top of a building near me. It was an uncommon light, the same as those you go through and you end up in the other side of the universe. I thought it was just a normal light and the wind speed made the publicity panel cover move and the light look like twisted. Not sure. After a while, 1 minute or so, I saw small bright green points( like 7 ) in the sky and they went fast together until disappeared. It was coming near the light I saw at the top of the building.

I came back to see if the light is still there after 30 minutes but it was gone. I came to the conclusion that I was no good scientist. A good scientist would stay and watch the light until it disappear and see what's happening there.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: pedro01 on March 24, 2015, 07:35:21 AM
Fuck niell assgrass tyson n einstiten

If you are on a face time call on earth to an astronaut twin brother traveling faster than speed of light, then acccording to time dialation , once astranaut came back to earth that astranaut may be 15 years younger looking than you

Simply not true

Because if you were on a face time call that entire time for 30 earth years watching terminater 2 50,000 times there would be no fucking time dialation because you would have bothd watched the movie the same exact amount of times/hours/minutes/ect thus absolutley no differences in time between your twin brother and you regardless of how fast he was going!

If you were on a face time call - you'd both have to have a really fucking fast internet connection to carry on a conversation...
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 24, 2015, 07:36:02 AM
if they were both watchin t2 the same amount of times then theres no difference in time

Its so stupidly amazingly simple but being 6feet7 i see the world for what it is

the astronaut would look likes hes in slow motion and things would look faster on his end inversely.

sorry but you need to study relativity a bit more son
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: SF1900 on March 24, 2015, 07:39:15 AM
Falcon owning Einstein and deGrasse Tyson. I hope Tyson reads getbig!

Einsteins education:

Cantonal school in Aarau, Switzerland (1895-1896)

Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland (1896-1900)

Ph.D. from Zurich University, Switzerland (1905)

Neal deGrasse Tyson:


PhD: Astrophysics, May 1991
Columbia University, New York City

MPhil: Astrophysics, May 1989
Columbia University, New York City

MA: Astronomy May 1983
University of Texas, Austin

Johnny Falcon:

Getbig Legend

Paints houses
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: liberty on March 24, 2015, 07:40:35 AM
Science 
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 07:43:41 AM
the astronaut would look likes hes in slow motion and things would look faster on his end inversely.

sorry but you need to study relativity a bit more son

any delay would be due to equip malfunction

No things wouldnt happen faster on earth end because both are watching t2 the same amount of times

Your implying the astranaut will be watching t2 more times than his earth twin
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 07:45:48 AM
Just because youre in a fucken rocket doesnt mean you do shit like watch tv faster
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 24, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
Fuck niell assgrass tyson n einstiten

If you are on a face time call on earth to an astronaut twin brother traveling faster than speed of light, then acccording to time dialation , once astranaut came back to earth that astranaut may be 15 years younger looking than you

Simply not true

Because if you were on a face time call that entire time for 30 earth years watching terminater 2 50,000 times there would be no fucking time dialation because you would have bothd watched the movie the same exact amount of times/hours/minutes/ect thus absolutley no differences in time between your twin brother and you regardless of how fast he was going!

Hey physics genius you forgot the most basic thing.
The signal for the cell phone is  moving thru space as a wave, along with each twin.
The twin moving away from earth will get the signal at a different time.

The sun's light is seen by us aprox 7-8 min after it leaves the sun.
Go back to physics 101 buddy and re-read the chapters on general and special relativity.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 24, 2015, 08:01:11 AM
Marty is not standing in the shoulder of giants, he is the giant himself.
By the way yesterday I saw something uncommon Marty. As I was smoking a cig in my balcony I saw a light moving fast in a publicity pannel at the top of a building near me. It was an uncommon light, the same as those you go through and you end up in the other side of the universe. I thought it was just a normal light and the wind speed made the publicity panel cover move and the light look like twisted. Not sure. After a while, 1 minute or so, I saw small bright green points( like 7 ) in the sky and they went fast together until disappeared. It was coming near the light I saw at the top of the building.

I came back to see if the light is still there after 30 minutes but it was gone. I came to the conclusion that I was no good scientist. A good scientist would stay and watch the light until it disappear and see what's happening there.

Are you referring to Johnny Falcon's peenus?
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 24, 2015, 08:01:23 AM
Just because youre in a fucken rocket doesnt mean you do shit like watch tv faster

A 2hr movie watching experience going away from earth at 95% the speed of light will be many years of time on earth
At close to light speed , time actually changes as one moves more rapidly thru space.

However, what each individual experiences appears to be the normal , correct standard , RELATIVE to their perspective.

This is not some dopey idea but physics fact backed by experimental data many times.

Being ignorant of that is like a bodybuilding fan being clueless who won the Olympia.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 24, 2015, 08:23:03 AM
thanks Howard for your assistance please take over this topic

hypertrophy studies are calling  :)
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 24, 2015, 08:44:26 AM
What if said brother was drinking Kale and Borax shakes.  Wouldn't he be younger from having healthier younger cells?
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 09:07:56 AM
Hey physics genius you forgot the most basic thing.
The signal for the cell phone is  moving thru space as a wave, along with each twin.
The twin moving away from earth will get the signal at a different time.

The sun's light is seen by us aprox 7-8 min after it leaves the sun.
Go back to physics 101 buddy and re-read the chapters on general and special relativity.
face time is instant realtime jjust like in a videogame multiplay any delay is due 2 device malfunction youre slow to get if it takes 30 years on earth to watch terminator 50,000 times then by flying in a rocket doesnt mean you can watch termintor 50,000 in 20 years
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 09:16:25 AM
howard you fail to see the logic brainwashed friend

you can keep shouting "relativity " doing so doesnt mean your automatically right and its in your physics book.its one of the greatest trickeries of all times
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 24, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
Falcon owning Einstein and deGrasse Tyson. I hope Tyson reads getbig!

Einsteins education:

Cantonal school in Aarau, Switzerland (1895-1896)

Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland (1896-1900)

Ph.D. from Zurich University, Switzerland (1905)

Neal deGrasse Tyson:


PhD: Astrophysics, May 1991
Columbia University, New York City

MPhil: Astrophysics, May 1989
Columbia University, New York City

MA: Astronomy May 1983
University of Texas, Austin

Johnny Falcon:

Getbig Legend

Paints houses
fucking lål
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 24, 2015, 11:19:01 AM
howard you fail to see the logic brainwashed friend

you can keep shouting "relativity " doing so doesnt mean your automatically right and its in your physics book.its one of the greatest trickeries of all times

Here is one of the early experiments done to prove relativity aprox 40 yrs ago.

 Cesium radioactive clocks, accurate to the billionth of sec were placed in 2 sealed containers.
One was kept locked on the ground while the other flew for several hrs in a jet.
The clock on the jet showed that  few billions of a sec LESS had passed when compared to the ground clock.

This and many other EXPERIMENTS were the objective proof needed for special relativity.

Relativistic effects are used today with satellites and GPS. GPS wouldn't be very precise and accurate without using relativity.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: SF1900 on March 24, 2015, 12:35:15 PM
fucking lål

Falcon destroying Einstein and Tyson!! I am wondering if Tyson read Falcons post, then resigned from his position!
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 24, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
You do realize that the idea of time is a man made invention.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mdef48 on March 24, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
Mod please move to general topics board had nothing to do with G&O.

Thanks
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: _aj_ on March 24, 2015, 12:54:56 PM
Falcon owning Einstein and deGrasse Tyson. I hope Tyson reads getbig!

Einsteins education:

Cantonal school in Aarau, Switzerland (1895-1896)

Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland (1896-1900)

Ph.D. from Zurich University, Switzerland (1905)

Neal deGrasse Tyson:


PhD: Astrophysics, May 1991
Columbia University, New York City

MPhil: Astrophysics, May 1989
Columbia University, New York City

MA: Astronomy May 1983
University of Texas, Austin

Johnny Falcon:

Getbig Legend

Paints houses

Advantage Failcan!
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: _bruce_ on March 24, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
DeAss has sold out - like the majority of scientists he acts as an mouthpiece for the system.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: greeneyes on March 24, 2015, 01:06:37 PM
He doesn't get the disablity check for nothing.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 24, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
1 day Falconer will get IG Nobel trophy ............far more prestigious that Nobel prize  :D

(just like comparing Mr.Canada '70 trophy with Ifbb Sandow statue)
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: SF1900 on March 24, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
Advantage Failcan!

I see what you did there.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: wes on March 24, 2015, 01:35:50 PM
I thought this thread was about the non-existance of Time Wescock,and was gonna` call bullshit until I re-read it.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 03:39:47 PM
DeAss has sold out - like the majority of scientists he acts as an mouthpiece for the system.

you couldnt have said it any better bruce
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 03:45:45 PM
Howard you are just repeating from textbooks your argument therefor sucks balls

You are not even close to self thinking and realizing youve been scammed

Tesla didnt think shit of einstein he knew albert was a bitch /\/igga
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 24, 2015, 04:16:54 PM
Falcon destroying Einstein and Tyson!! I am wondering if Tyson read Falcons post, then resigned from his position!
the sheeple love trendy fakeism
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 25, 2015, 02:34:20 AM
the sheeple love trendy fakeism

Do you drive Tesla car ?.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: muscularny on March 25, 2015, 03:04:51 AM
You overlooked one of the more basic things about time itself.

I will give you a small hint, a 30 year old on earth is would be 1 year old on saturn and 124 years old on Mercury.

When you talk about the time it takes for 2 people to watch the same movie you are saying that time is a constant something that Einstein and many others already disproved, the only constant is the speed of light.

So if someone says he spend a half a day watching movies the question becomes what planet did he do that on, on earth that would be about 12 hours on saturn it would mean about 5:20.

As we start populating Mars and space travel becomes quick, one of the questions future generations will have to deal with is consolidating age between planets. Say someone is born on Mars and at age 15 they visit earth, technically in earth years they would be 30 years old, will they be able to enter a club or buy wine?

There is no doubt that within the coming 500 years humans will travel to mars and back as common as we travel from the US to Europe or Asia today. At the speed of light it would take 3-22 minutes to get there. Obviously before we figure out converting matter to energy and back we would figure out faster travel speeds so I am guessing within 500 years we would be able to travel to mars (depending on its distance to earth at the time) at an avg of 6 days one way. By then there will be places on the way the travelers will be able to stay as well by docking their spacecraft to the space hotel.

Right about when you think this all sounds ridiculous ask yourself what the people living in the 16th century or even the early 19th century would have said about the technologies we have today.  


Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 04:52:31 AM
Who brainwashed thiis nonsense into you it will take you the same amount of " earth time as we know it" to watch terminator2 on this planet or any planet and regardless if you are in a rocket or not.

When atoms are cooled to absolute zero or super heated weird shit then happens, buut you wont experience that isolated in a rocket
You overlooked one of the more basic things about time itself.

I will give you a small hint, a 30 year old on earth is would be 1 year old on saturn and 124 years old on Mercury.

When you talk about the time it takes for 2 people to watch the same movie you are saying that time is a constant something that Einstein and many others already disproved, the only constant is the speed of light.

So if someone says he spend a half a day watching movies the question becomes what planet did he do that on, on earth that would be about 12 hours on saturn it would mean about 5:20.

As we start populating Mars and space travel becomes quick, one of the questions future generations will have to deal with is consolidating age between planets. Say someone is born on Mars and at age 15 they visit earth, technically in earth years they would be 30 years old, will they be able to enter a club or buy wine?

There is no doubt that within the coming 500 years humans will travel to mars and back as common as we travel from the US to Europe or Asia today. At the speed of light it would take 3-22 minutes to get there. Obviously before we figure out converting matter to energy and back we would figure out faster travel speeds so I am guessing within 500 years we would be able to travel to mars (depending on its distance to earth at the time) at an avg of 6 days one way. By then there will be places on the way the travelers will be able to stay as well by docking their spacecraft to the space hotel.

Right about when you think this all sounds ridiculous ask yourself what the people living in the 16th century or even the early 19th century would have said about the technologies we have today.  



Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 05:03:39 AM
You see gravity effects cellular resperation however humans can only exist under certain gravity/atmospheric conditions thus we would and can never experience any other stronger gravity than eaths or we would explode and with too little gravity we get frail weak and die, we cant experience accelerated time but only slighly different fluctuations of cellular resperation rates until our bodies must go back to homeostasis
You overlooked one of the more basic things about time itself.

I will give you a small hint, a 30 year old on earth is would be 1 year old on saturn and 124 years old on Mercury.

When you talk about the time it takes for 2 people to watch the same movie you are saying that time is a constant something that Einstein and many others already disproved, the only constant is the speed of light.

So if someone says he spend a half a day watching movies the question becomes what planet did he do that on, on earth that would be about 12 hours on saturn it would mean about 5:20.

As we start populating Mars and space travel becomes quick, one of the questions future generations will have to deal with is consolidating age between planets. Say someone is born on Mars and at age 15 they visit earth, technically in earth years they would be 30 years old, will they be able to enter a club or buy wine?

There is no doubt that within the coming 500 years humans will travel to mars and back as common as we travel from the US to Europe or Asia today. At the speed of light it would take 3-22 minutes to get there. Obviously before we figure out converting matter to energy and back we would figure out faster travel speeds so I am guessing within 500 years we would be able to travel to mars (depending on its distance to earth at the time) at an avg of 6 days one way. By then there will be places on the way the travelers will be able to stay as well by docking their spacecraft to the space hotel.

Right about when you think this all sounds ridiculous ask yourself what the people living in the 16th century or even the early 19th century would have said about the technologies we have today.  



Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Rami on March 25, 2015, 05:44:23 AM
Ok, I must step in.

For the guy traveling at speed of light, the trip will seem to take a few seconds.

For the guy watching t2 on earth, time is slow as usual.

The face time call signals would not reach traveler when he is traveling away at speed of light.

And once he is traveling towards earth at speed of light the several years of face time signals would arrive at about the same time.

Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 25, 2015, 05:57:17 AM
Howard you are just repeating from textbooks your argument therefor sucks balls

You are not even close to self thinking and realizing youve been scammed

Tesla didnt think shit of einstein he knew albert was a bitch /\/igga

Sorry, I'm such a fool.
I'll remain "ignorant" and  stick with my empirical research backed data and mathematical equations that "explain" it. ;)

Ya know Marty, every scientific break thru came from creative, outside the box thinking.
BUT it was backed with dogged , tedious research, experiments and endless tweeking of mathematical equations.
Remember the new idea has to PROVE that the established idea is wrong.

For example, Tesla proved his AC system was superior to the Edison DC system when he put the AC generators on Niagra Falls.
It was able to light up thousands of places with less cost and greater reliability.



Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 06:15:43 AM
Ok, I must step in.

For the guy traveling at speed of light, the trip will seem to take a few seconds.

For the guy watching t2 on earth, time is slow as usual.

The face time call signals would not reach traveler when he is traveling away at speed of light.

And once he is traveling towards earth at speed of light the several years of face time signals would arrive at about the same time.


his bodily functions do not magically speed up or slowdown if someone is traveling in a fast vehicle, does that even make sense?? Of course not
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 06:19:56 AM
Read my response to rami
Sorry, I'm such a fool.
I'll remain "ignorant" and  stick with my empirical research backed data and mathematical equations that "explain" it. ;)

Ya know Marty, every scientific break thru came from creative, outside the box thinking.
BUT it was backed with dogged , tedious research, experiments and endless tweeking of mathematical equations.
Remember the new idea has to PROVE that the established idea is wrong.

For example, Tesla proved his AC system was superior to the Edison DC system when he put the AC generators on Niagra Falls.
It was able to light up thousands of places with less cost and greater reliability.




Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 06:28:30 AM
If the face time call signal was instantaneous faster than light do you really beleive that you would be watch a humans face and voice in slow motion while they are in a rocket? Because that would mean they would have to be literally living in slow motion which is imposible for a human to do
Ok, I must step in.

For the guy traveling at speed of light, the trip will seem to take a few seconds.

For the guy watching t2 on earth, time is slow as usual.

The face time call signals would not reach traveler when he is traveling away at speed of light.

And once he is traveling towards earth at speed of light the several years of face time signals would arrive at about the same time.


Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 25, 2015, 06:30:32 AM
his bodily functions do not magically speed up or slowdown if someone is traveling in a fast vehicle, does that even make sense?? Of course not

The perspective and experience one has always seems to be the normal, correct one.
It's how your time dilation is RELATIVE to others moving at much different speeds that matters.

Think about using your fast car example. ( I've actually used this example in class).
You and I are driving down the road , seated inside a car at 60 mph.
Relative to each other we never change position. We can talk, listen to music, eat, drunk, etc.

A person standing on the side of the road observes us drive by.
From his perspective, we are a blur. From our perspective he's a blur.
Believe it or not, time moves differently depending on your motion thru space.

Relativity isn't my area of expertise and I don't claim to fully understand the details of all it's equations and effects.
Most people can only comprehend things in their own world. Newton felt time was an endless progression that never changed.
He was an incredible physics genius BUT he was wrong about time.
I'd invite you to google how  GPS works with relativistic effects and that might help.

You seem to have a good mind. I'm not sure about your background, but you
might consider enrolling in a graduate or undergrad physics degree program.
To get full comprehension you need to get into the tedious details you won't get from lighter,"fun" sources>
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 06:51:13 AM
If 30 years on earth pass and my twin goes flys away in a rocket and comes back only 15 years older by einstiens time dilation theory then that means he must age slow motion while being on a rocket ship(wich is physically biologically imposible) because i watched my twin for the entire 30 earth years from a telescope
Thus i will know my twin has aged 30 years not 15




 
The perspective and experience one has always seems to be the normal, correct one.
It's how your time dilation is RELATIVE to others moving at much different speeds that matters.

Think about using your fast car example. ( I've actually used this example in class).
You and I are driving down the road , seated inside a car at 60 mph.
Relative to each other we never change position. We can talk, listen to music, eat, drunk, etc.

A person standing on the side of the road observes us drive by.
From his perspective, we are a blur. From our perspective he's a blur.
Believe it or not, time moves differently depending on your motion thru space.

Relativity isn't my area of expertise and I don't claim to fully understand the details of all it's equations and effects.
Most people can only comprehend things in their own world. Newton felt time was an endless progression that never changed.
He was an incredible physics genius BUT he was wrong about time.
I'd invite you to google how  GPS works with relativistic effects and that might help.

You seem to have a good mind. I'm not sure about your background, but you
might consider enrolling in a graduate or undergrad physics degree program.
To get full comprehension you need to get into the tedious details you won't get from lighter,"fun" sources>

Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Rami on March 25, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
his bodily functions do not magically speed up or slowdown if someone is traveling in a fast vehicle, does that even make sense?? Of course not

hahahah

you broke the code of the universe with your thinking

we don't know what to expect anymore,  anything could happen now
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Rami on March 25, 2015, 07:04:02 AM
This is a tremendous project. Watching someone for 30 years non stop. Actually your twin traveling for 15 years in each direction, for him it would seem the distances is much shorter as well, something else you may now ponder.

If 30 years on earth pass and my twin goes flys away in a rocket and comes back only 15 years older by einstiens time dilation theory then that means he must age slow motion while being on a rocket ship(wich is physically biologically imposible) because i watched my twin for the entire 30 earth years from a telescope
Thus i will know my twin has aged 30 years not 15




 
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 07:23:21 AM
This is a tremendous project. Watching someone for 30 years non stop. Actually your twin traveling for 15 years in each direction, for him it would seem the distances is much shorter as well, something else you may now ponder.

no it wouldnt bro , however looking outside a rocket window at lightspeed things would blur u couldnt see shit, however you would know your exact location at any time with your spaceship radar that could detect where you are no matter your speed
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 25, 2015, 08:37:55 AM
hey buddy,  the world is full of real phenomena that don't make any sense

the mind struggles with these concepts because they are counterintuitive and bizarre

eg. physicists spend a lot of time talking about properties of "space" which is 100% of "nothing"  ???

tesla said it was nonsense too so just put on your 3d glasses and enjoy the show 
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 08:41:41 AM
hey buddy,  the world is full of real phenomena that don't make any sense

the mind struggles with these concepts because they are counterintuitive and bizarre

eg. physicists spend a lot of time talking about properties of "space" which is 100% of "nothing"  ???

tesla said it was nonsense too so just put on your 3d glasses and enjoy the show 
no  u see everything makes sense

Your non-chalant approach says just relax and be a pussy dont try to understand what the scientists say  ::)
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Dokey111 on March 25, 2015, 08:50:37 AM
There is no time.  There is life and there is motion.  Time is a construct humans devised to relate to life, which is finite.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 25, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
you're not accepting that time is not universal,

it's an illusion that comes from your brain son

try to put yourself in another persons shoes

instead of just lusting after plastic nobel trophies

Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 25, 2015, 12:25:54 PM
If 30 years on earth pass and my twin goes flys away in a rocket and comes back only 15 years older by einstiens time dilation theory then that means he must age slow motion while being on a rocket ship(wich is physically biologically imposible) because i watched my twin for the entire 30 earth years from a telescope
Thus i will know my twin has aged 30 years not 15




 

My dear Marty,

The math ( equations) is/are pretty clear on this issue . TIME is fluid, that's why we say "space-time" as one big universal fabric.
With all due respect, you are looking at space time from 1 fixed concrete reference point.
I don't want to be rude or obnoxious here, but you appear fairly oblivious to the experimental evidence, supporting equations and proof related to modern physics.
Get big isn't the "time and place" for this deep a debate and I lack the energy, and desire to do so.

I did stick my nose into this thread so I understand why you gave replies.

I come on to getbig for a break from my own reality and work.
Let's get back to more serious topics , like tranny sex and Poloroid  selfie cock pics. ;D

No hard feelings and good luck on your future physics related inquiry.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
There is no time.  There is life and there is motion.  Time is a construct humans devised to relate to life, which is finite.
time is purely passage of events   biologically and universally
Earth time is charted as we go around the sun, its rather purely only passage of events we chart as we go around sun our biology also purely experiences a passage of events cells replicate divide ect nothing ambiguos

If im on earth watching my twin brother take 3 shits a day sleeping 7 hours a day (identicle habits ill be shitting 3 times a day and sleeping 7 hours per 24hrs) then he will return the exact same age as me  regardless of how fast he was going because he did all the exactt same stuff as me during this 30 year round trip voyage. Thus i have conclusively disproven time dilation and theory of relativity!

We would obviously have to have a special iphone to watch each other all the time it would be documented proof
We would age the same rate regardless of what sell out scientists and especially atheist sell out scientists would have u believe
If hes doing the same amount of stuff shitting 3 times in 24hrs ect how can you possibly argue time dilation exists
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 25, 2015, 06:15:35 PM
(Face time√kelp÷protienfarts\Π•[daddywaddy])><hyperspace°~terminator1{2}(3)= who gives a shit.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Costanza on March 25, 2015, 07:44:12 PM
How would you spend that prize money BigDog?
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 25, 2015, 08:00:56 PM
How would you spend that prize money BigDog?

how will i?

hmm id probably sell my buisness and hire a few people to study with me the tesla writings on a beach somewhere with whores and plenty of beer, tumeric , kale , cilantro and veggie burgers


i just wanna study all that shit tesla wrote on the beach somewhere taking 5 minite breaks to watch whores on the beach and wonder at the ocean waves fuck yeah!!!
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Costanza on March 25, 2015, 08:05:49 PM
how will i?

hmm id probably sell my buisness and hire a few people to study with me the tesla writings on a beach somewhere with whores and plenty of beer, tumeric , kale , cilantro and veggie burgers


i just wanna study all that shit tesla wrote on the beach somewhere taking 5 minite breaks to watch whores on the beach and wonder at the ocean waves fuck yeah!!!

 :D My apologies

fuck yes. beaches, beers n bitches sounds like my idea of heaven
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: SGT BARNES on March 26, 2015, 06:53:09 AM
stop trying to think and get back to mowing the lawn you fat retard.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2015, 07:46:20 AM
You're just replacing a second as a unit time with watching T2 or taking a poop as a unit of time and then assuming these events are concurrent for observers moving at different speeds by claiming the unit of time is a shared experience.  It's no different than just insisting that a moving clock's second hand ticks at the same rate as a stationary clock's second hand.  You haven't refuted the theory.  You've simply denied it.

What my head isn't wrapped around is that relativity says there's no universal reference point so it's just as correct to say planet 1 is sitting still and planet 2 is flying past at light speed as it is to say that planet 2 is stationary and planet 1 is moving past at light speed  So here's the rub: If moving clocks run slow then planet 2's clock is slow according to planet 1, and planet 1's clock is slow according to planet 2.  If both clocks are slow then then no clock is slow and Marty wins the prize and that can't be right.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: mr.turbo on March 26, 2015, 09:29:23 AM
You're just replacing a second as a unit time with watching T2 or taking a poop as a unit of time and then assuming these events are concurrent for observers moving at different speeds by claiming the unit of time is a shared experience.  It's no different than just insisting that a moving clock's second hand ticks at the same rate as a stationary clock's second hand.  You haven't refuted the theory.  You've simply denied it.

What my head isn't wrapped around is that relativity says there's no universal reference point so it's just as correct to say planet 1 is sitting still and planet 2 is flying past at light speed as it is to say that planet 2 is stationary and planet 1 is moving past at light speed  So here's the rub: If moving clocks run slow then planet 2's clock is slow according to planet 1, and planet 1's clock is slow according to planet 2.  If both clocks are slow then then no clock is slow and Marty wins the prize and that can't be right.

I think the part of the story that's missing is the effect of acceleration.  The example is correct if they both accelerate equally so you need to clarify that aspect...Howard?  :D
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 26, 2015, 09:54:56 AM
Taking a shit as part of a physics experiment?

How do you think I got thru grad school?  :D
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Howard on March 26, 2015, 10:00:26 AM
I think the part of the story that's missing is the effect of acceleration.  The example is correct if they both accelerate equally so you need to clarify that aspect...Howard?  :D

This is where you combine special relativity with the general effects of relativity.

Marty isn't being dumb, as many people within science have had these debates.
He just seems oblivious to the experiments and equations that proved relativity as established physics FACT!

His questions have answers , but he needs to read and understand it.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 27, 2015, 05:45:55 AM
You're just replacing a second as a unit time with watching T2 or taking a poop as a unit of time and then assuming these events are concurrent for observers moving at different speeds by claiming the unit of time is a shared experience.  It's no different than just insisting that a moving clock's second hand ticks at the same rate as a stationary clock's second hand.  You haven't refuted the theory.  You've simply denied it.


you arent getting it ,if you are watching t2 it only plays at one speed a dvd player will not work fast or slow unless you hit a button or program button

You dont take a shit and wipe your ass in 1 second just because your in a fast rocket

If it takes randy failcan 3 hours everytime  to jerk off to fat assed white whores , then if he goes in a rocket and jerks off to fat ass white whores he will not be back in 1 hour because he hasnt busted his load yet because there is no way randy can finish jerkin any less than 3 hours

Randy cant majically wack to completion under 3hrs but he sure could travel to pluto and back in 10 minites with his special lightspeed rocket
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Rami on March 27, 2015, 06:03:16 AM
you arent getting it ,if you are watching t2 it only plays at one speed a dvd player will not work fast or slow unless you hit a button or program button

You dont take a shit and wipe your ass in 1 second just because your in a fast rocket

Wait, I think while traveling at speed of light one is microscopic in size without knowing it since everything inside rocket would also be microscopic. I think this is the answer. As soon as you slow down some, you are normal, like if you crash into something you would not have a microscopic wreck and crash site, why, because you just slowed down at point of impact. Why am I saying this, it's because that means we will not see any evidence of this unless there is some controlled experiment and smart scientists watching it with high tech sensors, like the LHC.

That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: my proof of the non existance of time dialation my nobel prize
Post by: Marty Champions on March 27, 2015, 06:12:48 AM
Wait, I think while traveling at speed of light one is microscopic in size without knowing it since everything inside rocket would also be microscopic. I think this is the answer. As soon as you slow down some, you are normal, like if you crash into something you would not have a microscopic wreck and crash site, why, because you just slowed down at point of impact. Why am I saying this, it's because that means we will not see any evidence of this unless there is some controlled experiment and smart scientists watching it with high tech sensors, like the LHC.

That would explain a lot.
you can feel acceleration and decceleration inside an aircraft but you can only see velocity through a rocket window, keep this in mind


In what way do you mean microscopic rami, perceptually, literally... ?