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Skinny hit lunatic John Heart slags off other skinny lunatic John Little and his methzer book. Even the hit clowns can't agree on this "superior" training method 🤣🤣🤣
Watching John Little talk about Mike Mentzer is just as embarrassing as watching Messy Triscuit take the stage in an orange roughy costume.
What’s the point of training when the result is that?
Hit-tites
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
The Hittites (/ˈhɪtaɪts/) were an Anatolian Indo-European people who formed one of the first major civilizations of Bronze Age West Asia. Possibly originating from beyond the Black Sea,[2] they settled in modern day Turkey in the early 2nd millennium BC. The Hittites formed a series of polities in north-central Anatolia, including the kingdom of Kussara (before 1750 BC), the Kanesh or Nesha kingdom (c. 1750–1650 BC), and an empire centered on Hattusa (around 1650 BC).[3][4] Known in modern times as the Hittite Empire, it reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Šuppiluliuma I, when it encompassed most of Anatolia and parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia.
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What’s the point of training when the result is that?They are about to explode with muscular growth any day now.
They are about to explode with muscular growth any day now.
Nobody should wear a Westside Barbell shirt that is under 200lbs. Louie Simmons turning RPMs in the grave.They look like bowling pins
What do these twinks have in common with Westside?
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They look like bowling pinsInsult to bowling pins.
Nobody should wear a Westside Barbell shirt that is under 200lbs. Louie Simmons turning RPMs in the grave.
What do these twinks have in common with Westside?
NADA
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Nobody should wear a Westside Barbell shirt that is under 200lbs. Louie Simmons turning RPMs in the grave.
What do these twinks have in common with Westside?
NADA
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The Band-Tension band.
Insult to bowling pins.Simons does have pretty outstanding forearms, I have to give him that. Those wrists look over 8" in girth (no homo?)
Simons does have pretty outstanding forearms, I have to give him that. Those wrists look over 8" in girth (no homo?)He had some good strategies for training BUT he only trained guys who already had great genetics, strength and a history of winning contests which made things much easier.
He had some good strategies for training BUT he only trained guys who already had great genetics, strength and a history of winning contests which made things much easier.
Also his lifters take lots of drugs.
His methods are targeted at equipped lifters.
They are about to explode with muscular growth any day now.
Also his lifters take lots of drugs.All heavyweights as well. Do his methods work for those of any weight class and raw lifters? Probably not as well or others would be using them. Equipped lifting is stupid. Might as well lift with a forklift.
His methods are targeted at equipped lifters.
They are about to explode with muscular growth any day now.
Wouldn't want to mess with these two huge guys. Hit has made them massive. 🤣🤣🤣i=CF88b-pq-ftZrHHM
would you mess with this fella? he's bout the same size as them
He's a trained boxer. Hit clowns don't even box. They would think boxing would lead to OVERTWAINING. 😆
louie would root me and my bro on a bench press meets, he'd shout "drive! drive! drive!"
my bro bped 320 @ a buck 32 strong dude
dr. jm blakley was our coach and first meet we saw him bp 5 bills, weight paused on his chest and the head judge yelled "press!" and he burst out in laughter and slammed dat shit up 8) 8) 8)
louie would root me and my bro on a bench press meets, he'd shout "drive! drive! drive!"
my bro bped 320 @ a buck 32 strong dude
dr. jm blakley was our coach and first meet we saw him bp 5 bills, weight paused on his chest and the head judge yelled "press!" and he burst out in laughter and slammed dat shit up 8) 8) 8)
Cool - props!
Damn, Louie looked terrible in that video.
I like Blakley, very strong guy. His best Raw however was only 470 lbs. (Where Arcidi did 666 lbs raw).
He got a lot out of shirts. mainly multi-ply... (710 lbs).
Smart guy, I enjoy his videos and writings... Love his JM Press..
Damn, Louie looked terrible in that video.
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methzer spent more time out of shape than in shape. 😆Why would he if te could get in shape in months?
To bulk up Mentzer trained every 14 days.I seriously doubt that.
To get cut up he picked up the pace and trained every 10 days.
I seriously doubt that.
Every 10 days is a lot but he wanted to burn fat.Haha. He was indeed a genius.
To bulk up Mentzer trained every 14 days.Lol. This style of training is not result producing but it continues to be done. There are some benefits to training hit once in a while like once a month but the majority of the time, no. These guys (hitters)are almost always skinny nerds or fatasses who talk like training intellectuals.
To get cut up he picked up the pace and trained every 10 days.
Lol. This style of training is not result producing but it continues to be done. There are some benefits to training hit once in a while like once a month but the majority of the time, no. These guys (hitters)are almost always skinny nerds or fatasses who talk like training intellectuals.
extreme hit yeah, but take a look at jordan peters or the fellas who followed dogg crap training like these two guys here in this vid which is in fact hit trainingthe constant superslow stuff, static holds, negatives. I have never in 35 years of training seen someone get big and strong doing this. These hitters are a stubborn bunch. Add some speed work and they will make some gains.
Mike had legit rear delts too:
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"Why would he if he could get in shape in months?"
By using lots of gear.
"Mike was what you will never be."
Yep. I'm a winner. Old meth head died a loser,
"Within 50 years he will still be talked about."
Very doubtful.
extreme hit yeah, but take a look at jordan peters or the fellas who followed dogg crap training like these two guys here in this vid which is in fact hit training
They all take roids. Plus they're training isn't really hit.
dogg crap is one set to failure of 5 exercises sounds like hit to me
They all take roids. Plusthey'retheir training isn't really hit.
Not really. It's one set followed by many mini sets. Basically condensed volume.
Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
I totally concur
Look into it...
set extenders like breakdowns and rest-pause right?
that is hit, sets taken to failure with an emphasis on progressive overload is the heart and soul of hit
Nope. Rest pause is not exclusive to hit nor training to failure.
"the real key is lifting heavier and heavier weights, like menzter once said... "how do you get bigger? by getting weaker?" hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Is that why methzer stopped training and got grossly out of shape? If hit really worked the hit clowns would be the biggest and strongest guys walking around....but they're not. 💯
Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
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Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be
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Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
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Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
Mike was not training rear delts. He was in fact bowing down to worship Arnold when Arnold came into the gym. You just don't see Arnold.
Hit can be used when you are short on time and don't want to miss a workout. But you are NOT going to gain much if any size doing it all the time. At best you might maintain what you built by training the right way and at worst you will lose what you did make and cause other body issues ( it takes a toll on your nerves mind heart etc) So train the right way and get results. getting stronger does NOT mean you grew muscle. !! That is one of the biggest mistakes methead did was think if you lifted heavier that you grew muscle. It does NOT work that way!! Lots of skinny guys are strong and lots of big guys are weak. Lifting heavy is good but not all the time. Going to possitive failure is good but not all the time. Pre exhaust is good but not all the time. Supersets are good but not all the time. Do you methead lovers understand that your idol was wrong about almost everything! The fool lost his mind and his body and then his life because he just wouldn't admit he was wrong. Hell even his diet advice was dead wrong. Mike got built training the right way yand then pushed his hit crap but never really trained that way himself. Neither did his brother or casey or Dorian. There has NEVER been a bodybuilder who has EVER gotten big and muscular training with " heavy duty" ( hit) and never will be.
so you really think that if you go from benching 100 for 10 reps to failure to 300 for 10 reps to failure you won't have bigger pecs delts and tris?
yeah sure you wont
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didn't have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they interact with others for the rest of their life. They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exaggeratly for attention (Hello Goodrum), and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They're insecure because they're girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunately they can get as big as they can but it doesn't cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They're not as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they don't know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back through various manly activities (MMA, cars, weight lifting etc.).
They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males, will go the steroids route to get even "bigger", attempting to cure their insecurity, but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didn't have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
Hit clowns can't even bench 100 pounds. And no, you won't have bigger pecs from benching 300 for 1 set. It takes multiple sets and exercises to have a great chest.
Nice assumption but not true.
I hope you're trolling
That's all he does. Look no further than his utterly disgusting remarks about Big Ro's father's recent passing. Rimjobber made fun of that and defended his stupid callousness a "funny joke" :/Yep Titus,he`s a fucking loser,but for the remark about Ros dad,he`s a complete total loser who should be banned or better yet,just hang himself.
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My main man Dave Mass......great guy!!
RMJ11 you're very critical of high intensity training. I wonder how you personally train? What's your training split, rep range and in general sets per body part?
It will make you happy to know that a writer for Ironman use to post here using a made up handle name like we all do. He died a few years ago. I use to talk with him through facebook. He said he trained in the same gym as Casey Viator was training for the 1982 Olympia. I think arguably his best ever condition. He said he used a ton of volume. One body part he counted 16 sets.
I thought Casey looked like a Greek statue at 82 O (he posed like a statue too) he should've won 82 over CD and FZ.
Casey said you absolutely have to use volume to be a professional bodybuilder. Otherwise it was too difficult to get the condition just right. Too hard to get the definition.
I agree it was the best he ever looked. Where did Casey say that? Was it in print or he told you? I use to chat with Casey through the computer. He told me his blood tests were perfect then he had a heart attack a few years later.He pretty much always talked about HIT whether he used it or not. Some say during the Colorado experiment he was doing a lot more than what was presented. I completely believed my facebook friend when he said Casey used volume for the 82 Olympia.
I thought Casey looked like a Greek statue at 82 O (he posed like a statue too) he should've won 82 over CD and FZ.
Casey said you absolutely have to use volume to be a professional bodybuilder. Otherwise it was too difficult to get the condition just right. Too hard to get the definition.
RMJ11 you're very critical of high intensity training. I wonder how you personally train? What's your training split, rep range and in general sets per body part?
It will make you happy to know that a writer for Ironman use to post here using a made up handle name like we all do. He died a few years ago. I use to talk with him through facebook. He said he trained in the same gym as Casey Viator was training for the 1982 Olympia. I think arguably his best ever condition. He said he used a ton of volume. One body part he counted 16 sets.
Yep Titus, I`m a fucking loser,but for the remark about Ros dad, I'm a complete total loser who should be banned or better yet just hang myself.
Freaking douche canoe that I am.
That's all I do. Look no further than my utterly disgusting remarks about Big Ro's father's recent passing. Tittys Polio made fun of that and defended his stupid callousness a "funny joke" :/
Hit too close to home, huh?
I agree it was the best he ever looked. Where did Casey say that? Was it in print or he told you? I use to chat with Casey through the computer. He told me his blood tests were perfect then he had a heart attack a few years later.He pretty much always talked about HIT whether he used it or not. Some say during the Colorado experiment he was doing a lot more than what was presented. I completely believed my facebook friend when he said Casey used volume for the 82 Olympia.Good post,Dave was a great guy and is sorely missed.
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condition is based solely on suffering and starving yourself, no ifs and or buts bout it
😉Stay blessed in the fact that nobody knows your true identity FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay blessed in the fact that everybody knows my true identity since I'm a FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I`d cave my own head in just on general principle.
Now quote myself and alter my own post since I'm a queerbait.
Are you sure that the extra calories and increased metabolism that comes along with cardio and extra workouts doesn't contribute AT ALL to your over all condition?
If HIT guys workout 3 X per week at an hour per workout for a total of 3 hours a week.
And, let's say for argument sake, to get ready for the 82 Olympia Casey was working out 5 days per week at 2 hrs per workout for a total of 10 hours.
Are you saying that those extra 7 hours per week don't matter?
I understand the point you're trying to make. And if we were talking to your average fat fuck that doesn't know anything about exercise, nutrition or calories, I would agree with you;: the focus needs to be on either calories in vs calories out or maintaiing ketosis... but not in pro bodybuilding. In addition to working out and diet there's also the matter of drugs. And the workouts play a part of conditioning all the way up to the last week or so before the show.
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^hahaha are you just copy and pasting ChatG4P stuff?
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It was in print. So I guess it's to be taken with a grain of salt. Now that I think of it, it may have been Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding but it could've been one of the guys over at Ironage when it was around too.
Gym rat is in here arguing with himself... Odd feller... ;D
Opinions about who is "better" between Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the realm of bodybuilding are subjective and often depend on individual preferences, criteria, and goals.There is nothing subjective to who was better.
Both were highly accomplished bodybuilders with different approaches to training and philosophies.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, a seven-time Mr. Olympia winner, is one of the most iconic figures in bodybuilding history. He was known for his incredible symmetry, aesthetics, and charismatic stage presence. Arnold popularized bodybuilding on a global scale and became a successful actor and politician.
Mike Mentzer, on the other hand, was known for his heavy-duty training philosophy, often referred to as High-Intensity Training (HIT). He focused on brief, intense workouts with the goal of stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer won the 1978 Mr. Olympia Heavyweight class and was known for his well-defined and dense physique.
The perception of one being "better" than the other often hinges on personal preferences for bodybuilding aesthetics, training philosophies, and individual accomplishments. Some may appreciate Arnold's classic physique and overall impact on the sport, while others may be drawn to Mentzer's emphasis on efficiency and intensity in training.
It's important to note that bodybuilding is a highly subjective sport, and opinions on what constitutes an ideal physique can vary widely. Additionally, the criteria for evaluating bodybuilders may differ based on personal preferences, making it challenging to definitively say that one was "better" than the other.
Both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer left lasting legacies in the world of bodybuilding, each contributing in their unique ways.
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Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger had a competitive relationship within the world of bodybuilding, and there were moments of tension between them, particularly during the 1980 Mr. Olympia competition.
In 1980, Mike Mentzer competed against Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Mr. Olympia contest. The competition was intense, and the judging results were controversial. Arnold Schwarzenegger ultimately won, securing his seventh Mr. Olympia title, while Mentzer finished in fifth place. The outcome of the competition, combined with differences in their training philosophies, contributed to Mentzer's frustration and disappointment.
Mike Mentzer was a proponent of High-Intensity Training (HIT), a training philosophy that emphasizes short, intense workouts with a focus on stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer believed that this approach could produce optimal results with less time spent in the gym.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, was known for his high-volume training approach. He believed in longer, more frequent workouts, emphasizing a variety of exercises for each muscle group.
The 1980 Mr. Olympia contest became controversial due to accusations of biased judging and disagreements about the criteria for determining the winner. Mentzer and his supporters were critical of the judging, and he expressed his dissatisfaction with the outcome. Some have suggested that Mentzer's disappointment and frustration with the results contributed to tension between him and Schwarzenegger.
It's important to note that both Mentzer and Schwarzenegger were highly respected in the bodybuilding community, and any animosity between them was likely rooted in the competitive nature of the sport. Over the years, the two competitors had occasional public exchanges of words, but they also expressed mutual respect for each other's contributions to bodybuilding.
Ultimately, whether one considers Mike Mentzer "better" than Arnold Schwarzenegger depends on personal preferences. Some may appreciate the aesthetics, charisma, and impact on the sport that Arnold brought, while others may favor Mentzer's efficiency-focused training philosophy and physique.
Casey was on Ironage for awhile. I don't believe like some do that everything printed in bodybuilding magazines was made up stuff. I can see Casey saying that especially since he trained in a commercial gym where others could see what he was doing.
Nobody should wear a Westside Barbell shirt that is under 200lbs. Louie Simmons turning RPMs in the grave.https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy3qs13gjvM/?igshid=NTYzOWQzNmJjMA==
What do these twinks have in common with Westside?
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Lots of people argue, both here and elsewhere, that for example Yates and Mentzer trained with the same volume as everyone else. That Yates didn't train particularly hard, in fact kind of soft workouts as evidenced by his video (I don't think he went to failure on even such a sissy movement as incline bb presses). One guru dissected and compared Yates' and Cutler's workouts and claimed they were damn near identical as far as volume and intensity. So on one hand you guys argue whether HIT is "good" but then say they all trained the same anyway. Which is it?
Can higher volume help cuts? Plausibly, but first make sure what that high volume is supposed to be like and what true HIT is and whether there is actually a meaningful difference.
I know what I think but I'm just confused by ya'lls theories.
Exactly. Yates trained no harder than anyone else. It was all marketing because Yates found a niche and made out he was doing heavy and hard training while every other bodybuilding pro were doing light weights and super high volume. Not true at all. Yates is his own biggest fan and actually believes the bs he spews out of his lying gob.
Back in the days before the blood and guts (lol) vid came out the muscle mags claimed that Yates was doing methzer's heavy duty one set to failure hit bs. Bear in mind that none of the mags had seen Yates trained yet so all this hype was just pure speculation. The mags claimed that Yates was doing one set to failure along with forced reps, negatives then drop sets all in that one set. Sounds brutal, right?
Course the mags just love to hype up how a top bodybuilder actually trains just for entertainment purposes when in reality the bodybuilder trains nothing like how they say in the mags. They all pretty much train the same. So the mags have to make a top pro workout sound much more brutal than it actually is, just to keep young readers hooked.
Anyhow, blood and guts (double lol) was released and now we get the chance to see Yates's brutal style of training. Imagine the anticipation of seeing a Mr Olympia go all out in his workouts and supposedly train harder than anyone else! Awesome you might think. Well...in reality his training was nothing short of radical. All you see is a bodybuilder pyramiding/ramping up the weight to a top set. Nothing more. No endless drop sets. No real forced reps. No long drawn out negatives, etc. Just standard training. Nothing more.
The hype that Yates received was a lot to do with Peter McGough who was a real Yates dick licker. He wrote many articles about Yates and even did his Ask Dorian Yates (triple lol) column in Flex magazine pretending to be Yates. 🤣 It was thanks to him that Yates got so much exposure which probably helped in Yates securing 6 olympia wins. Peter knew people in high places.
Anyway, Yates training isn't that hard. Arnold and Haney could've easily done it without breaking a sweat. If you saw some gym rat doing the same workout in a gym you wouldn’t think anything of it. It's the old Delorme Watkins method. Add weight each set slowly pre exhausting the muscle until the top set. Big deal. That's how a lot of pro's trained over the years. Yates was and still is all hype but other than that his style of trainjng is no different from most.
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now! Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened? Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!. The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders. These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge" . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds? NO. Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now! Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened? Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!. The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders. These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge" . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds? NO. Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.
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Dorian is not crippled like Coleman these days
He is living the life and in good healthy shape
Dorian is a cripple to an extent. He can barely train with weights now due to his injuries by his retarded way of training. All the other greats, including Coleman, are still able to train. What does Yates do these days? Gay ass yoga. 😂😂😂
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now! Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened? Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!. The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders. These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge" . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds? NO. Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now! Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened? Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!. The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders. These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge" . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds? NO. Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.
No offense, but Dorian is way more mobile and active than Ronnie The Cripple... Would rather do Yoga, than roll around in a wheel chair.
However, "HITTERS" are a delusional bunch. Ever go on Dardens HIT forum? Bunch of pompous, know it all training experts, with none having any muscle to speak of...
I know. They're everywhere. They make great claims yet ask one of them to provide evidence of their claims but none come forward. If hit is so great why then, after 5 decades, has it never produced champion after champion? Why do the hitters make such bold claims yet can't back them up?
They are too busy talking about how great it is, so no time to actually put on any muscle... I had a well known one, at the AOBS strongman dinner, telling me I train all wrong.
(Arnold style split). The guy weighed 150 lbs... LOL
I am still losing sleep over other gym member’s workout philosophies
😁PLEASE KILL YOURSELF ASAP........IF YOU NEED HELP CALL ME.
Listened to this yesterday as i feel asleep. I could swear i was bigger this morning.
Listened to this yesterday as i feel asleep. I could swear i was bigger this morning.
PLEASE! I NEED HELP.
So according to Methead you have to get stronger to get bigger ( he's wrong) He says a "strong muscle is a big muscle ( he's wrong) He would gauge his clients "progress" by if they added weight or reps to a exercise ( still wrong).One of His real reasoning for the long time in between workouts was because he said " ever notice that after a 2 week layoff you are always stronger in the gym then when you stopped". So he said people had to be over training and after a few weeks off they finally recuperated and "grew". smh In reality what happens is you are just burned out. Your mind is tired your nerves are tired you are just burned out. So after a while of not working out your refreshed and ready to go again MENTALLY ( mostly) So using his logic of getting stronger after a layoff then explain this. Even when your tired if you get pissed you lift more or add reps. Or a hot slut walks by you suddenly lift more do more reps etc. So did you "suddenly" recuperate? lmao. Methead was wrong about EVERYTHING. And his diet advice was almost as bad as his workout advice.
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Very true. Also after 2 weeks of not training deconditioning sets in. Infrequent training causes de-adaptation. In order for adaptation to occur, there must be stress. When the stress is too infrequent “de-adaptation” takes place.
Training a muscle group every seven or ten days you will be sore after every workout. When your training is infrequent, the downtime is too long, and the body starts reverting to its previous weaker state. When you train more often, the body has no time to lose its condition. That’s why you are less sore. In addition, frequent training improves the recovering capabilities of the organism.
Since Heavy Duty calls for infrequent training, you will be sore after each workout because of “de-adaptation” rather than “perfect training”.
Most people are not stronger after a 2 week layoff. They're actually weaker.
So according to Methead you have to get stronger to get bigger ( he's wrong) He says a "strong muscle is a big muscle ( he's wrong) He would gauge his clients "progress" by if they added weight or reps to a exercise ( still wrong).One of His real reasoning for the long time in between workouts was because he said " ever notice that after a 2 week layoff you are always stronger in the gym then when you stopped". So he said people had to be over training and after a few weeks off they finally recuperated and "grew". smh In reality what happens is you are just burned out. Your mind is tired your nerves are tired you are just burned out. So after a while of not working out your refreshed and ready to go again MENTALLY ( mostly) So using his logic of getting stronger after a layoff then explain this. Even when your tired if you get pissed you lift more or add reps. Or a hot slut walks by you suddenly lift more do more reps etc. So did you "suddenly" recuperate? lmao. Methead was wrong about EVERYTHING. And his diet advice was almost as bad as his workout advice.
Very true. Also after 2 weeks of not training deconditioning sets in. Infrequent training causes de-adaptation. In order for adaptation to occur, there must be stress. When the stress is too infrequent “de-adaptation” takes place.
Training a muscle group every seven or ten days you will be sore after every workout. When your training is infrequent, the downtime is too long, and the body starts reverting to its previous weaker state. When you train more often, the body has no time to lose its condition. That’s why you are less sore. In addition, frequent training improves the recovering capabilities of the organism.
Since Heavy Duty calls for infrequent training, you will be sore after each workout because of “de-adaptation” rather than “perfect training”.
Most people are not stronger after a 2 week layoff. They're actually weaker.
ROYALTY is behind both of these accounts... a self discussion 😂
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Very true. Also after 2 weeks of not training deconditioning sets in. Infrequent training causes de-adaptation. In order for adaptation to occur, there must be stress. When the stress is too infrequent “de-adaptation” takes place.Yep, the soreness makes people think they are making gains.
Training a muscle group every seven or ten days you will be sore after every workout. When your training is infrequent, the downtime is too long, and the body starts reverting to its previous weaker state. When you train more often, the body has no time to lose its condition. That’s why you are less sore. In addition, frequent training improves the recovering capabilities of the organism.
Since Heavy Duty calls for infrequent training, you will be sore after each workout because of “de-adaptation” rather than “perfect training”.
Most people are not stronger after a 2 week layoff. They're actually weaker.
Couldn't even win 1 olympia. A dead had been that never was.
still hard to believe those arms were "only" 18 and a half inches :o
He looks great in some of these pictures. It's crazy that anyone thinks 80 was his best condition. He was clearly better a few years earlier.800 calorie diets aren't the best for holding on to muscle.
still hard to believe those arms were "only" 18 and a half inches :o
He was a manlet
He was a monster
WRONG!! Methead himself even said the biggest his arms EVER got was 18 5/8 inches!! Also notice on the fake chart everything somehow measured to the even amount? 58 chest not 57 3/4 waiste 30 not 301/2 and arms 21 not 203/4. SMH mike chest was probably near 50 or 52 MAYBE. But most likely 50 . Waist was NOT 30 more like 40 and arms were 18 not 21. He was only 5ft7 and roughly 210 lbs . He was NOT big guy. By himself he looked ok but next to a real bodybuilder he was out of his league. Weider was hyping him because he needed someone to sell mags since Arnold franco and ferrigno and olivia and scott etc were all done. But mike thought to highly of himself.
WRONG!! Methead himself even said the biggest his arms EVER got was 18 5/8 inches!! Also notice on the fake chart everything somehow measured to the even amount? 58 chest not 57 3/4 waiste 30 not 301/2 and arms 21 not 203/4. SMH mike chest was probably near 50 or 52 MAYBE. But most likely 50 . Waist was NOT 30 more like 40 and arms were 18 not 21. He was only 5ft7 and roughly 210 lbs . He was NOT big guy. By himself he looked ok but next to a real bodybuilder he was out of his league. Weider was hyping him because he needed someone to sell mags since Arnold franco and ferrigno and olivia and scott etc were all done. But mike thought to highly of himself.210 was contest weight. The best photos of Mike were with him lifting or posing on the beach weighing much more.
THE MANLET METHZER
Could he have beaten Arnold in acting?
Artistic Mentzers -
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“You’re retired.”
Loved Daniel Ray Mentzer in There Will Be Blood!
You mother fucker, you beat me to it. ;D
You mother fucker, you beat me to it. ;D
You mother fucker, you beat me to it. ;D
You mother fucker, you beat me to it. ;D
You mother fucker, you beat me to it. ;D
I bet you’re itching to log into your RMJ11 account... do it Phaggit
Having a bad day? Retardation flare up?
Hi RMJ11 😃
If I have a gimmick account on here and it is proven, I'll go to Thunder Bay, jerk Matt off on camera and not only will I send it to Prime, I'll post it here and accept my lifetime ban. What are you willing to put up, cuntface?
RMJ11 I knew that you would check on your thread in the middle of the night 😂
UPSIDE DOWN COFFEE CUP CHALLENGE!!!
Post your pic BITCH
Where’s Humble Narcissist? 😂😂😂Right here. I was just watching that Denzel Washington movie: Jackie Brown.
Skinny/fat HITters having a meltdown on this one. Read the comments in the vid, truly hilarious.Who has time for 52 sets?i=Ucru9gfndQW86t7I
If "natural Mr America lol" did more volume perhaps he wouldn't look so skinny. 😆
Who has time for 52 sets?
Who has time for 52 sets?
It’s amazing to watch you talk back and forth with your gimmick accounts.
Just like your Bevo and AbrahamG accounts discussing dicks. 🤮
These Mentzer threads made your “Beakdoctor” and your other accounts very easy to spot.
skinny hit guy here :D :D :D
hit is making a hellva comeback baby!!!!!
It’s amazing to watch you talk back and forth with your gimmick accounts.
Just like your Bevo and AbrahamG accounts discussing dicks. 🤮
These Mentzer threads made your “Beakdoctor” and your other accounts very easy to spot.
HIT is the way, motherfracker,
I've been saying this for years Mike Mentzer is a drug addict conman who fooled millions and continues to this day.
I have never seen a proponent of this system look impressive
I've been saying this for years Mike Mentzer is a drug addict conman who fooled millions and continues to this day.
I have never seen a proponent of this system look impressive
Exactly.
Agreeing with my own gimmick account.... yet again
This is the second biggest problem with getbig ( the first one is all the bs about fags dicks etc smh GO AWAY you homos) on here people will argue all day long. They will start or say stuff just to get us going. I hate when people are dead wrong and yet they still persist in trying to convince others they are right. Kind of like biden and the dummycrats liberals. They keep lying thinking people will believe them. So I am going to say this one last time and this is the truth and ANYONE who does agree with me just proves my point. YOUR WRONG. Mentzer was not a genius. Was not a goat. Didn't come close to winning the olympia. Never trained in the way he said and there are NO HIT BODYBUILDERS ! NONE. You do not and will not build a great body doing that crap. For people who have NO ambition to build a good body but still want to workout and pretend to be " hardcore" ( but are really just lazy) they will do this and say how good it is. Mentzer was a decent bodybuilder but that was it. And he didn't train "hit" either. He just didn't have what it took. He was a loser in everything including life. He had no mental strength at all. He was a crybaby until the end. I would love for his ex cathy gelfo to come on here and really speak the truth to all of you methead mentzer nut huggers. THERE WILL NEVER BE A "HIT" ONLY BODYBUILDER ( there will be those that call themselves a bodybuilder but they will not be one. So go ahead and keep arguing and starting arguments all that does is prove my point about a lot of you on here. It ruins it for us real bodybuilders who come here for advice and keeping up with the bodybuilding world.
This is the second biggest problem with getbig ( the first one is all the bs about fags dicks etc smh GO AWAY you homos) on here people will argue all day long. They will start or say stuff just to get us going. I hate when people are dead wrong and yet they still persist in trying to convince others they are right. Kind of like biden and the dummycrats liberals. They keep lying thinking people will believe them. So I am going to say this one last time and this is the truth and ANYONE who does agree with me just proves my point. YOUR WRONG. Mentzer was not a genius. Was not a goat. Didn't come close to winning the olympia. Never trained in the way he said and there are NO HIT BODYBUILDERS ! NONE. You do not and will not build a great body doing that crap. For people who have NO ambition to build a good body but still want to workout and pretend to be " hardcore" ( but are really just lazy) they will do this and say how good it is. Mentzer was a decent bodybuilder but that was it. And he didn't train "hit" either. He just didn't have what it took. He was a loser in everything including life. He had no mental strength at all. He was a crybaby until the end. I would love for his ex cathy gelfo to come on here and really speak the truth to all of you methead mentzer nut huggers. THERE WILL NEVER BE A "HIT" ONLY BODYBUILDER ( there will be those that call themselves a bodybuilder but they will not be one. So go ahead and keep arguing and starting arguments all that does is prove my point about a lot of you on here. It ruins it for us real bodybuilders who come here for advice and keeping up with the bodybuilding world.
Bozo. Go ahead and ask a mod . In the meantime, save this to your schmoe collection. Fucking queer.
Looking jacked beak.
this fellas client gained 10 pounds of fat in 5 weeks at 55 years old training 2 times a week
no change in diet no supps only incorrect training
Looking jacked beak.
Bozo. Go ahead and ask a mod . In the meantime, save this to your schmoe collection. Fucking queer.
It's almost as if I'm looking in the mirror. ;D
Suck a Big Black Cock Royalty.
this fellas client gained 10 pounds in 5 weeks at 55 years old training 2 times a week
no change in diet no supps only correct training
Your gimmicks are being exposed... and there is nothing you can do about it Bevo... err I mean RMJ11... err Humble Narcissist... err.. AbrahamG.. HikingRobert... err... Beakdoctor...
Pathetic lonely INCEL
Who has time to manage all those gimmicks?
This is a very strange place. If it didn't make me laugh every time I sign on I would be gone.
10 x 0 = 0
It's almost as if I'm looking in the mirror. ;D
Suck a Big Black Cock Royalty.
Who has time to manage all those gimmicks?
I didn't realise Royalty was such a simpleton like myself.
He's way off base accusing me, Abe G, Humble Narcissist and others of all being the same guy. Let alone running RMJ's amazing account. FFS, I write like I've been lobotomised. Plus I can't use grammar very well.
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Case in point about myself.
It does make me laugh everytime also. Thanks guys!
you think he's lying ???
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Looking jacked beak.X 2
This is the second biggest problem with getbig ( the first one is all the bs about fags dicks etc smh GO AWAY you homos) on here people will argue all day long. They will start or say stuff just to get us going. I hate when people are dead wrong and yet they still persist in trying to convince others they are right. Kind of like biden and the dummycrats liberals. They keep lying thinking people will believe them. So I am going to say this one last time and this is the truth and ANYONE who does agree with me just proves my point. YOUR WRONG. Mentzer was not a genius. Was not a goat. Didn't come close to winning the olympia. Never trained in the way he said and there are NO HIT BODYBUILDERS ! NONE. You do not and will not build a great body doing that crap. For people who have NO ambition to build a good body but still want to workout and pretend to be " hardcore" ( but are really just lazy) they will do this and say how good it is. Mentzer was a decent bodybuilder but that was it. And he didn't train "hit" either. He just didn't have what it took. He was a loser in everything including life. He had no mental strength at all. He was a crybaby until the end. I would love for his ex cathy gelfo to come on here and really speak the truth to all of you methead mentzer nut huggers. THERE WILL NEVER BE A "HIT" ONLY BODYBUILDER ( there will be those that call themselves a bodybuilder but they will not be one. So go ahead and keep arguing and starting arguments all that does is prove my point about a lot of you on here. It ruins it for us real bodybuilders who come here for advice and keeping up with the bodybuilding world.
I didn't realize Royalty was such a simpleton.
He's way off base accusing me, Abe G, Humble Narcissist and others of all being the same guy. Let alone running RMJ's account. FFS, RMJ writes like he's been lobotomized.
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Arnold looking better than gh bloated Yates.
Dorian looks good and he only trained 5 x a week.
Intensity for smallness
This guy knows the truthTo be fair, that guy looks like a twink.
To be fair, that guy looks like a twink.
More brainwashed delusional hit clownsi=YYCPAiwuQNtEB_nO
^^^this is absolutely the wrong way to workout with what he is doing.
The hit cult are very delusional.
^^^there is nothing wrong with what he is doing.
Most people don’t even workout LOL. Those are the delusional people.
People who don't workout like the hit cult are disgusting to me.
People who don't workout are disgusting to me.
How many guys post here and don't train at all? Maybe train for 6 weeks then off for a week. Some of the guys here I'm convinced like to share their training "knowledge" and look like they did many push ups in their lives.
I give credit to anyone that exercises doing anything from running, calisthenics, swimming, riding a bike or even yoga. It's all good. All the attacks on other guys for what they do in the gym like HIT is stating facts. Hit sucks.
How many guys post here and don't train at all? Maybe train for a week then off for six weeks. Some of the guys here I'm convinced like to share their training "knowledge" but look like they never did a push up in their life.
I give credit to anyone that exercises doing anything from running, calisthenics, swimming, riding a bike or even yoga. It's all good. All the attacks on other guys for what they do in the gym is low rent and screams insecurity.
exactly!!! only 6 fucking percent of americans do some kind of training twice a week or more just pitiful
That's bad.
exactly!!! only 6 fucking percent of americans do some kind of training twice a week or more just pitiful
It's why they train with hit as it gives them the poor excuse to train only once or twice a week for 20 minutes.
Bigger and better developed than methzer 💪
Arnold's low lat insertion is crazy.
That’s a roll of muscle
Training with hit will result in a fat soft ass like methzer'sOr an injury riddled mess.
Or an injury riddled mess.
Arnold’s lovely lats in 1980 were magnificent
Lats look big and wide
Training with hit will result in a fat soft ass like methzer's
methzer looked like shit 😂
methzer lost
Arnold looked like shit 😂And still crushed Mike.
I can not believe people are still arguing over 1980. Let is go. Arnold won. He deserved to win. He wasn't as dominate as normal because he didn't train very long. So was he perfect like normal? No. His legs were lacking a bit FOR HIM but still good enough. It was not rigged . He came in he conquered moved on to much bigger and better things. What has ANY of the crybaby losers accomplished ? NOTHINGThey will never let it go just like Mike.
I can not believe people are still arguing over 1980. Let is go. Arnold won. He deserved to win. He wasn't as dominate as normal because he didn't train very long. So was he perfect like normal? No. His legs were lacking a bit FOR HIM but still good enough. It was not rigged . He came in he conquered moved on to much bigger and better things. What has ANY of the crybaby losers accomplished ? NOTHING
this physique beats both the GOAT and arnie 8) 8) 8)Way too small. That tiny waist exploded in later years.
this physique doesn't beat the GOAT Arnie 8) 8) 8)
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methzer the manlet midgit
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More retardation from the weird hit culti=zjVAHdJaq49jGSlu
More retardation from the weird hit culti=zjVAHdJaq49jGSlu
That's not a hack squat...and the guy should shave his head.
Nope, not at all.
It's a high bar wobbly trap bar bounce set.
What about shaving his head?
Couldn't care less what other guys do, but if we're critiquing, he should worry about his clothes first.
More from the hit clowns...What a beast!i=Q5YWNTY_W0LB4Nrw