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« Reply #129 on: December 03, 2023, 08:16:32 AM »
Mentzer’s left arm was bigger than Arnold’s right arm

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« Reply #130 on: December 03, 2023, 08:31:17 AM »
Opinions about who is "better" between Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the realm of bodybuilding are subjective and often depend on individual preferences, criteria, and goals.

Both were highly accomplished bodybuilders with different approaches to training and philosophies.


Arnold Schwarzenegger, a seven-time Mr. Olympia winner, is one of the most iconic figures in bodybuilding history. He was known for his incredible symmetry, aesthetics, and charismatic stage presence. Arnold popularized bodybuilding on a global scale and became a successful actor and politician.

Mike Mentzer, on the other hand, was known for his heavy-duty training philosophy, often referred to as High-Intensity Training (HIT). He focused on brief, intense workouts with the goal of stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer won the 1978 Mr. Olympia Heavyweight class and was known for his well-defined and dense physique.

The perception of one being "better" than the other often hinges on personal preferences for bodybuilding aesthetics, training philosophies, and individual accomplishments. Some may appreciate Arnold's classic physique and overall impact on the sport, while others may be drawn to Mentzer's emphasis on efficiency and intensity in training.

It's important to note that bodybuilding is a highly subjective sport, and opinions on what constitutes an ideal physique can vary widely. Additionally, the criteria for evaluating bodybuilders may differ based on personal preferences, making it challenging to definitively say that one was "better" than the other.

Both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer left lasting legacies in the world of bodybuilding, each contributing in their unique ways.

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Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger had a competitive relationship within the world of bodybuilding, and there were moments of tension between them, particularly during the 1980 Mr. Olympia competition.

In 1980, Mike Mentzer competed against Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Mr. Olympia contest. The competition was intense, and the judging results were controversial. Arnold Schwarzenegger ultimately won, securing his seventh Mr. Olympia title, while Mentzer finished in fifth place. The outcome of the competition, combined with differences in their training philosophies, contributed to Mentzer's frustration and disappointment.

Mike Mentzer was a proponent of High-Intensity Training (HIT), a training philosophy that emphasizes short, intense workouts with a focus on stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer believed that this approach could produce optimal results with less time spent in the gym.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, was known for his high-volume training approach. He believed in longer, more frequent workouts, emphasizing a variety of exercises for each muscle group.

The 1980 Mr. Olympia contest became controversial due to accusations of biased judging and disagreements about the criteria for determining the winner. Mentzer and his supporters were critical of the judging, and he expressed his dissatisfaction with the outcome. Some have suggested that Mentzer's disappointment and frustration with the results contributed to tension between him and Schwarzenegger.

It's important to note that both Mentzer and Schwarzenegger were highly respected in the bodybuilding community, and any animosity between them was likely rooted in the competitive nature of the sport. Over the years, the two competitors had occasional public exchanges of words, but they also expressed mutual respect for each other's contributions to bodybuilding.


Ultimately, whether one considers Mike Mentzer "better" than Arnold Schwarzenegger depends on personal preferences. Some may appreciate the aesthetics, charisma, and impact on the sport that Arnold brought, while others may favor Mentzer's efficiency-focused training philosophy and physique.
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« Reply #131 on: December 03, 2023, 08:32:44 AM »
^hahaha are you just copy and pasting ChatG4P stuff?

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« Reply #132 on: December 03, 2023, 08:34:01 AM »
^hahaha are you just copy and pasting ChatG4P stuff?

Yes, it's ALL ChatG4P stuff now :D

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« Reply #133 on: December 03, 2023, 08:35:44 AM »
If you're curious about "Rambone's" contributions and humor on the Getbig forum, you might want to check out the discussions and interactions yourself.

Keep in mind that humor is subjective, and what one person finds amusing, another may not.

Online forums also have their own unique culture and dynamics, so opinions about individual users can differ among forum members.
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« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2023, 08:38:34 AM »
If you're curious about "Rambone's" contributions and humor on the Getbig forum, you might want to check out the discussions and interactions yourself.

Keep in mind that humor is subjective, and what one person finds amusing, another may not.

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« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2023, 09:04:36 AM »
It was in print. So I guess it's to be taken with a grain of salt.   Now that I think of it, it may have been Arnold's Encyclopedia  of Bodybuilding but it could've been one of the guys over at Ironage when it was around too.

Casey was on Ironage for awhile. I don't believe like some do that everything printed in bodybuilding magazines was made up stuff. I can see Casey saying that especially since he trained in a commercial gym where others could see what he was doing.

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« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2023, 11:11:49 AM »
Gym rat is in here arguing with himself... Odd feller...  ;D

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« Reply #137 on: December 04, 2023, 12:25:53 AM »
Opinions about who is "better" between Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the realm of bodybuilding are subjective and often depend on individual preferences, criteria, and goals.

Both were highly accomplished bodybuilders with different approaches to training and philosophies.


Arnold Schwarzenegger, a seven-time Mr. Olympia winner, is one of the most iconic figures in bodybuilding history. He was known for his incredible symmetry, aesthetics, and charismatic stage presence. Arnold popularized bodybuilding on a global scale and became a successful actor and politician.

Mike Mentzer, on the other hand, was known for his heavy-duty training philosophy, often referred to as High-Intensity Training (HIT). He focused on brief, intense workouts with the goal of stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer won the 1978 Mr. Olympia Heavyweight class and was known for his well-defined and dense physique.

The perception of one being "better" than the other often hinges on personal preferences for bodybuilding aesthetics, training philosophies, and individual accomplishments. Some may appreciate Arnold's classic physique and overall impact on the sport, while others may be drawn to Mentzer's emphasis on efficiency and intensity in training.

It's important to note that bodybuilding is a highly subjective sport, and opinions on what constitutes an ideal physique can vary widely. Additionally, the criteria for evaluating bodybuilders may differ based on personal preferences, making it challenging to definitively say that one was "better" than the other.

Both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer left lasting legacies in the world of bodybuilding, each contributing in their unique ways.

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Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger had a competitive relationship within the world of bodybuilding, and there were moments of tension between them, particularly during the 1980 Mr. Olympia competition.

In 1980, Mike Mentzer competed against Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Mr. Olympia contest. The competition was intense, and the judging results were controversial. Arnold Schwarzenegger ultimately won, securing his seventh Mr. Olympia title, while Mentzer finished in fifth place. The outcome of the competition, combined with differences in their training philosophies, contributed to Mentzer's frustration and disappointment.

Mike Mentzer was a proponent of High-Intensity Training (HIT), a training philosophy that emphasizes short, intense workouts with a focus on stimulating maximum muscle growth while minimizing overtraining. Mentzer believed that this approach could produce optimal results with less time spent in the gym.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, was known for his high-volume training approach. He believed in longer, more frequent workouts, emphasizing a variety of exercises for each muscle group.

The 1980 Mr. Olympia contest became controversial due to accusations of biased judging and disagreements about the criteria for determining the winner. Mentzer and his supporters were critical of the judging, and he expressed his dissatisfaction with the outcome. Some have suggested that Mentzer's disappointment and frustration with the results contributed to tension between him and Schwarzenegger.

It's important to note that both Mentzer and Schwarzenegger were highly respected in the bodybuilding community, and any animosity between them was likely rooted in the competitive nature of the sport. Over the years, the two competitors had occasional public exchanges of words, but they also expressed mutual respect for each other's contributions to bodybuilding.


Ultimately, whether one considers Mike Mentzer "better" than Arnold Schwarzenegger depends on personal preferences. Some may appreciate the aesthetics, charisma, and impact on the sport that Arnold brought, while others may favor Mentzer's efficiency-focused training philosophy and physique.
There is nothing subjective to who was better.

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Re: The Skinny Hit Cult
« Reply #138 on: December 04, 2023, 12:35:46 AM »
Casey was on Ironage for awhile. I don't believe like some do that everything printed in bodybuilding magazines was made up stuff. I can see Casey saying that especially since he trained in a commercial gym where others could see what he was doing.

i had phone consults with the GOAT back in the day he flat out told me casey was known to stretch the truth a bit

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« Reply #139 on: December 04, 2023, 05:02:26 AM »
Nobody should wear a Westside Barbell shirt that is under 200lbs. Louie Simmons turning RPMs in the grave.

What do these twinks have in common with Westside?

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« Reply #140 on: December 04, 2023, 05:17:42 AM »
Lots of people argue, both here and elsewhere, that for example Yates and Mentzer trained with the same volume as everyone else. That Yates didn't train particularly hard, in fact kind of soft workouts as evidenced by his video (I don't think he went to failure on even such a sissy movement as incline bb presses). One guru dissected and compared Yates' and Cutler's workouts and claimed they were damn near identical as far as volume and intensity. So on one hand you guys argue whether HIT is "good" but then say they all trained the same anyway. Which is it?

Can higher volume help cuts? Plausibly, but first make sure what that high volume is supposed to be like and what true HIT is and whether there is actually a meaningful difference.

I know what I think but I'm just confused by ya'lls theories.

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« Reply #141 on: December 04, 2023, 05:58:19 AM »
Lots of people argue, both here and elsewhere, that for example Yates and Mentzer trained with the same volume as everyone else. That Yates didn't train particularly hard, in fact kind of soft workouts as evidenced by his video (I don't think he went to failure on even such a sissy movement as incline bb presses). One guru dissected and compared Yates' and Cutler's workouts and claimed they were damn near identical as far as volume and intensity. So on one hand you guys argue whether HIT is "good" but then say they all trained the same anyway. Which is it?

Can higher volume help cuts? Plausibly, but first make sure what that high volume is supposed to be like and what true HIT is and whether there is actually a meaningful difference.

I know what I think but I'm just confused by ya'lls theories.

Exactly. Yates trained no harder than anyone else. It was all marketing because Yates found a niche and made out he was doing heavy and hard training while every other bodybuilding pro were doing light weights and super high volume. Not true at all. Yates is his own biggest fan and actually believes the bs he spews out of his lying gob.

Back in the days before the blood and guts (lol) vid came out the muscle mags claimed that Yates was doing methzer's heavy duty one set to failure hit bs. Bear in mind that none of the mags had seen Yates trained yet so all this hype was just pure speculation. The mags claimed that Yates was doing one set to failure along with forced reps, negatives then drop sets all in that one set. Sounds brutal, right?

Course the mags just love to hype up how a top bodybuilder actually trains just for entertainment purposes when in reality the bodybuilder trains nothing like how they say in the mags. They all pretty much train the same. So the mags have to make a top pro workout sound much more brutal than it actually is, just to keep young readers hooked.

Anyhow, blood and guts (double lol) was released and now we get the chance to see Yates's brutal style of training. Imagine the anticipation of seeing a Mr Olympia go all out in his workouts and supposedly train harder than anyone else! Awesome you might think. Well...in reality his training was nothing short of radical. All you see is a bodybuilder pyramiding/ramping up the weight to a top set. Nothing more. No endless drop sets. No real forced reps. No long drawn out negatives, etc. Just standard training. Nothing more.

The hype that Yates received was a lot to do with Peter McGough who was a real Yates dick licker. He wrote many articles about Yates and even did his Ask Dorian Yates (triple lol) column in Flex magazine pretending to be Yates. 🤣 It was thanks to him that Yates got so much exposure which probably helped in Yates securing 6 olympia wins. Peter knew people in high places.

Anyway, Yates training isn't that hard. Arnold and Haney could've easily done it without breaking a sweat. If you saw some gym rat doing the same workout in a gym you wouldn’t think anything of it. It's the old Delorme Watkins method. Add weight each set slowly pre exhausting the muscle until the top set. Big deal. That's how a lot of pro's trained over the years. Yates was and still is all hype but other than that his style of training is no different from most.






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« Reply #142 on: December 04, 2023, 06:03:24 AM »
Exactly. Yates trained no harder than anyone else. It was all marketing because Yates found a niche and made out he was doing heavy and hard training while every other bodybuilding pro were doing light weights and super high volume. Not true at all. Yates is his own biggest fan and actually believes the bs he spews out of his lying gob.

Back in the days before the blood and guts (lol) vid came out the muscle mags claimed that Yates was doing methzer's heavy duty one set to failure hit bs. Bear in mind that none of the mags had seen Yates trained yet so all this hype was just pure speculation. The mags claimed that Yates was doing one set to failure along with forced reps, negatives then drop sets all in that one set. Sounds brutal, right?

Course the mags just love to hype up how a top bodybuilder actually trains just for entertainment purposes when in reality the bodybuilder trains nothing like how they say in the mags. They all pretty much train the same. So the mags have to make a top pro workout sound much more brutal than it actually is, just to keep young readers hooked.

Anyhow, blood and guts (double lol) was released and now we get the chance to see Yates's brutal style of training. Imagine the anticipation of seeing a Mr Olympia go all out in his workouts and supposedly train harder than anyone else! Awesome you might think. Well...in reality his training was nothing short of radical. All you see is a bodybuilder pyramiding/ramping up the weight to a top set. Nothing more. No endless drop sets. No real forced reps. No long drawn out negatives, etc. Just standard training. Nothing more.

The hype that Yates received was a lot to do with Peter McGough who was a real Yates dick licker. He wrote many articles about Yates and even did his Ask Dorian Yates (triple lol) column in Flex magazine pretending to be Yates. 🤣 It was thanks to him that Yates got so much exposure which probably helped in Yates securing 6 olympia wins. Peter knew people in high places.

Anyway, Yates training isn't that hard. Arnold and Haney could've easily done it without breaking a sweat. If you saw some gym rat doing the same workout in a gym you wouldn’t think anything of it. It's the old Delorme Watkins method. Add weight each set slowly pre exhausting the muscle until the top set. Big deal. That's how a lot of pro's trained over the years. Yates was and still is all hype but other than that his style of trainjng is no different from most.



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« Reply #143 on: December 04, 2023, 06:15:00 AM »
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now!  Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened?  Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!.   The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders.   These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge"  . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds?  NO.  Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.

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« Reply #144 on: December 04, 2023, 06:27:44 AM »
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now!  Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened?  Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!.   The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders.   These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge"  . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds?  NO.  Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.

thier chests aren't any bigger than the 70s guys and thier arms are only bigger due to seo and other like compounds

thier lats, wheels and delts are def bigger though, gotta say the truth

but.... make them step on stage with a sub 34 inch waist then we can talk

who gives a flying fuck if you're a ripped 250+ @5% if you waist measures 50+ inches, give me a 250+ guy with a legit 32 inch waist then we can talk

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« Reply #145 on: December 04, 2023, 06:28:22 AM »
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now!  Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened?  Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!.   The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders.   These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge"  . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds?  NO.  Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.


Dorian is not crippled like Coleman these days

He is living the life and in good healthy shape
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« Reply #146 on: December 04, 2023, 08:05:22 AM »


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People still believing in the hype I see. 😂😂😂

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« Reply #147 on: December 04, 2023, 08:19:04 AM »

Dorian is not crippled like Coleman these days

He is living the life and in good healthy shape

Dorian is a cripple to an extent. He can barely train with weights now due to his injuries by his retarded way of training. All the other greats, including Coleman, are still able to train. What does Yates do these days? Gay ass yoga. 😂😂😂

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« Reply #148 on: December 04, 2023, 08:23:19 AM »
Dorian is a cripple to an extent. He can barely train with weights now due to his injuries by his retarded way of training. All the other greats, including Coleman, are still able to train. What does Yates do these days? Gay ass yoga. 😂😂😂

No offense, but Dorian is way more mobile and active than Ronnie The Cripple... Would rather do Yoga, than roll around in a wheel chair.
However, "HITTERS" are a delusional bunch. Ever go on Dardens HIT forum? Bunch of pompous, know it all training experts, with none having any muscle to speak of...

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« Reply #149 on: December 04, 2023, 08:24:24 AM »
Yates was one of the first actual walking chemical experiments. Others pushed the envelope but he really did. Coleman did too and look at him now!  Both were so stupid that during pre contest training they still pushed maximal weights!! And look at what happened?  Common sense tells you that the body can NOT do that without enough food to REPAIR!.   The guys from Arnolds era and even in the early 80s didn't get all these injuries . They trained heavy off season and lighter faster and longer pre contest. It just makes sense! Their bodies showed it. They looked like real bodybuilders.   These ass clowns nowdays are just a bloated boofy mess but the schmoes and all these others think they look good because they are "huge"  . The only thing huge is their stomach. Are their arms or chest bigger than Arnolds?  NO.  Calves? no. Hell even before 75 arnolds thighs were huge too. But his gut was small. So these fucktards get on the scale and weigh 300 lbs but 75 of it is in the belly.

So true. Yates was indeed a walking pharmaceutical experiment. It was Kerry Kayes who helped Yates's with his drug stack as recommended by drug guru Dan Duchaine. Yates was one of the first to kick off the GH belly.