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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/rupert-murdoch-immigration-reform_n_5509876.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/rupert-murdoch-immigration-reform_n_5509876.html)
Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
Rupert Murdoch, the founder and CEO of News Corp, issued a call for immigration reform on Wednesday, writing in the Wall Street Journal: "One of the most immediate ways to revitalize our economy is by passing immigration reform."
In the opinion piece, Murdoch expressed his fear that the primary loss by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) would mean the end of immigration reform's chances of becoming a reality and admonished political opponents of immigration reform for being "dead wrong about the long-term interests of our country."
Murdoch, who also owns 21st Century Fox, pointed to other notable business and industries that have benefitted from immigrants.
"The Partnership for a New American Economy, a bipartisan group of political and business leaders, reports that people who moved here from abroad or their children founded more than 40% of America's Fortune 500 companies -- businesses that collectively employ millions of people," Murdoch wrote. "Do Americans really wish Google, eBay, Pfizer or Home Depot HD were headquartered in Eastern Europe or China instead of America? Whether it's a high-profile tech company or a small business employing just 10 people, 28% of all new American businesses started in 2011 were founded by immigrants. Those are entrepreneurial people we want to continue to attract to our economy."
Murdoch also outlined the steps Washington should take to reform immigration to ensure the vitality of American society and the economy, including: a path to citizenship for non-criminal immigrants living in the U.S.; the removal of caps on H-1B visas, which allow companies to hire foreign workers for specialty positions; and strengthening border security.
Murdoch's full column can be read here.
This isn't the first time that Murdoch has called for immigration reform; in 2010, he joined former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg in pressing for a legal path to citizenship. After the 2012 presidential election, Murdoch sent a tweet that stated "Must have sweeping, generous immigration reform."
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Yeah - people like him in walled off gated mansions have nothing to worry about.
Its the rest of us who have to live amongst this cess pool these assholes desire.
F him.
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When people learn to do the opposite of what the Rupert Murdochs of the world insist upon, then we'll be going in the right direction.
Unfortunately for the rest of us, the Rupert Murdochs have the loudest voice, as they've cornered media. How convenient for them.
Where is the anti-globalist voice?
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BTW: Shouldn't this piece of shit be doing a stretch for hacking?
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According to leftists, the FOX News network lies, it is misinformed and only idiots would watch it. If that is true, then what does the say about the owner?
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These clowns never give a reason why this would be good for america or the american people.
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When people learn to do the opposite of what the Rupert Murdochs of the world insist upon, then we'll be going in the right direction.
Unfortunately for the rest of us, the Rupert Murdochs have the loudest voice, as they've cornered media. How convenient for them.
Where is the anti-globalist voice?
if rupert likes it, roger ailes will have to like it.
then fox and friends will all of a sudden start to like it.
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this is the RINO wing of the republican party, doubling down. They're facing panicked candidates - suddenly dudes like CANTOR are losing their jobs because of their insane positions on amnesty.
All these folks in congress are panicking. Many probably want to return to their original position, in which they (honestly) believe amnesty is bullshit. But they obediently agreed to it, in Nov 2012, when Reince Priebus told them to.
The good news is that there might be a mini-tea-party thing going on. Maybe repubs will stop acting like RINOs, if the cantors of the world get voted out. This story is just the big conservative media trying to keep the amnesty push alive. It's so funny... complete hispandering, no other way to put it... it's pathetic all around. Can't beat the dems, so let's join em lol.
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Almost all media now is controlled by a single entity. So for all the thousands of channels and "outlets" we see, there is exactly one voice: that of the multi-billionaire.
So our common narrative is now set by something so uncommon.
It simply cannot stand with reason. No way, no how. That's the problem.
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Can't stand it when they go on and on about "The Royal Family", either.
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These guys in media aren't operating under any challenges (they should be, as a duty to the public). There's no competition between them to do that. So we end up in a situation that looks exactly like fixing or colluding. Everything about it is wrong.
(And we're talking about pure globalism pulling the strings, here, obviously. That's why the wonderful Republicans have suddenly been "finding their hearts" everywhere with respect to "immigration reform". It's a sellout to the entity, plain and simple.)
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I have no problem with properly screening and controlling immigrants and allowing them to come in legally as needed to fill the hard-to-fill jobs, and eventually become citizens and often legit business owners themselves in many cases.
If they're not criminals, are willing to contribute by working and paying taxes, and will respect the country and its laws, I have no problem with letting some in and keeping some here as needed.
But just leaving it all wide open for tens of millions of criminals and welfare cases and having our govt work with their govts to get their families here as well and just keep them all here forever is not the way to do it. The needs of the US and its citizens should be what matters to the US - not the needs of those from other countries.
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they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.
Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate. But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it! At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now. They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay". They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.
But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."
They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior. I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"
You either support it or you don't. You don't just "shift" overnight. If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.
Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay. but Repubs? Come on.
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I've said essentially the same thing I said in my above post here months ago in another thread on at least one other occasion.
Low-level jobs that most Americans won't take, and jobs like engineering jobs that most Americans can't take need to be filled by somebody.
Control it and do it legally on an as-needed basis.
But just opening everything up wide and letting in murderers, rapists, welfare cases, etc ain't the way to go.
they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.
Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate. But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it! At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now. They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay". They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.
But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."
They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior. I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"
You either support it or you don't. You don't just "shift" overnight. If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.
Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay. but Repubs? Come on.
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I have no problem with properly screening and controlling immigrants and allowing them to come in legally as needed to fill the hard-to-fill jobs, and eventually become citizens and often legit business owners themselves in many cases.
If they're not criminals, are willing to contribute by working and paying taxes, and will respect the country and its laws, I have no problem with letting some in and keeping some here as needed.
But just leaving it all wide open for tens of millions of criminals and welfare cases and having our govt work with their govts to get their families here as well and just keep them all here forever is not the way to do it. The needs of the US and its citizens should be what matters to the US - not the needs of those from other countries.
But you do. You're speaking only for yourself, when the subject is our country as a whole.
(BTW: We have 300M+ people, which includes every bit the potential for anything we could need. It is an absolute crime to dismiss that potential as though it doesn't exist. So please quit using a bogus narrative that is geared only toward devaluation. It is false.)
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they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.
Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate. But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it! At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now. They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay". They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.
But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."
They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior. I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"
You either support it or you don't. You don't just "shift" overnight. If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.
Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay. but Repubs? Come on.
Yeah, the one thing that freaks me out more than anything else, is seeing all these people spin right backward as though it is the most natural thing in the world to act without thinking - all because some guy on TV told them to do that.
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Yeah, the one thing that freaks me out more than anything else, is seeing all these people spin right backward as though it is the most natural thing in the world to act without thinking - all because some guy on TV told them to do that.
It's one of the easiest issues to choose a side - either you're okay with people BREAKING THE LAW - they are breaking the law by being here, this isn't in question - Or you're not okay with it.
People that can switch positions so quickly... well, they don't know what they believe. they want the TV and their politicians to tell them what to think.
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But you do. You're speaking only for yourself, when the subject is our country as a whole.
(BTW: We have 300M+ people, which includes every bit the potential for anything we could need. It is an absolute crime to dismiss that potential as though it doesn't exist. So please quit using a bogus narrative that is geared only toward devaluation. It is false.)
Yes, I can only speak for myself. Sorry, I cannot possibly speak for 300 million others. ???
I have an opinion. If you don't like it, fine.
If you think I've got a "problem" for having an opinion different from yours, that's your "problem", not mine.
There are always shortages of people to fill certain jobs here. That's a fact. And this country was founded on immigration - we all came from somewhere else. You're insane if you think it will ever stop. I'm realistic enough to see that we should try to limit those immigrants coming in to those who will contribute and improve the nation.
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Yes, I can only speak for myself. Sorry, I cannot possibly speak for 300 million others. ???
I have an opinion. If you don't like it, fine.
If you think I've got a "problem" for having an opinion different from yours, that's your "problem", not mine.
There are always shortages of people to fill certain jobs here. That's a fact. And this country was founded on immigration - we all came from somewhere else. You're insane if you think it will ever stop. I'm realistic enough to see that we should try to limit those immigrants coming in to those who will contribute and improve the nation.
And who shall we trust to "try" this?
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And who shall we trust to "try" this?
I don't trust the govt as a whole either, and no doubt most (if not all) politicians and their more generous and energetic supporters are to blame. Most are either corrupt from the getgo or become part of the corrupt system at some point just to survive. The few who don't play ball get viciously attacked by both parties, usually moreso by their own.
But if it's a given that immigrants have always come over and always will, and big govt will spend tons of money on the issue no matter what, I think it's a no-brainer for our nation to survive that there should be a radical shift towards having common sense controls put in place - reasonable efforts to secure the borders, required background checks, limit those coming in to those who will serve a meaningful purpose here, etc.
Of course I'm not holding my breath. To do so would no doubt be labeled "discrimination" and all sorts of other horrible names by the PC mob that now runs the world.
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I don't trust the govt as a whole either, and no doubt most (if not all) politicians and their more generous and energetic supporters are to blame. Most are either corrupt from the getgo or become part of the corrupt system at some point just to survive. The few who don't play ball get viciously attacked by both parties, usually moreso by their own.
But if it's a given that immigrants have always come over and always will, and big govt will spend tons of money on the issue no matter what, I think it's a no-brainer for our nation to survive that there should be a radical shift towards having common sense controls put in place - reasonable efforts to secure the borders, required background checks, limit those coming in to those who will serve a meaningful purpose here, etc.
Of course I'm not holding my breath. To do so would no doubt be labeled "discrimination" and all sorts of other horrible names by the PC mob that now runs the world.
Meaningful in what way?
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Meaningful in what way?
In ways this country always used to think were meaningful - gainfully employed or looking for work, or starting legit businesses or investing in them if they have the means, or going to college or trade school, paying required taxes, obeying the laws, etc.
What would you consider meaningful or not meaningful?
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In ways this country always used to think were meaningful - gainfully employed or looking for work, or starting legit businesses or investing in them if they have the means, or going to college or trade school, paying required taxes, obeying the laws, etc.
What would you consider meaningful or not meaningful?
But who gets to decide what's okay in this regard?
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But who gets to decide what's okay in this regard?
they're ALL lawbreakers. Any "undocumented worker" is actually an "illegal alien" in that they commit a crime daily.
now, these "repubs" are suddenly like "well, if they're willing to work..." - Well, the illegals are breaking the law, so already you are willing to let people break the law, as long as they hold a job? Yet if any of us "legals" breaks the law daily, we go to jail.
They don't know what they believe in. They shift their belief system daily based upon what FOX and Rush tell them, and they cannot argue that. Most were shitting all over obama for pushing his DREAM crap, and suddenly they're telling us how important it is to let these illegals stay due to "acts of love" or other bulllshite. it's amazing to see how many "republicans" on getbig can abandon their beliefs because the talking boob tube told them to.
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W all these invaders rushin the border - immigration law not going to happen
they're ALL lawbreakers. Any "undocumented worker" is actually an "illegal alien" in that they commit a crime daily.
now, these "repubs" are suddenly like "well, if they're willing to work..." - Well, the illegals are breaking the law, so already you are willing to let people break the law, as long as they hold a job? Yet if any of us "legals" breaks the law daily, we go to jail.
They don't know what they believe in. They shift their belief system daily based upon what FOX and Rush tell them, and they cannot argue that. Most were shitting all over obama for pushing his DREAM crap, and suddenly they're telling us how important it is to let these illegals stay due to "acts of love" or other bulllshite. it's amazing to see how many "republicans" on getbig can abandon their beliefs because the talking boob tube told them to.
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they're ALL lawbreakers. Any "undocumented worker" is actually an "illegal alien" in that they commit a crime daily.
now, these "repubs" are suddenly like "well, if they're willing to work..." - Well, the illegals are breaking the law, so already you are willing to let people break the law, as long as they hold a job? Yet if any of us "legals" breaks the law daily, we go to jail.
They don't know what they believe in. They shift their belief system daily based upon what FOX and Rush tell them, and they cannot argue that. Most were shitting all over obama for pushing his DREAM crap, and suddenly they're telling us how important it is to let these illegals stay due to "acts of love" or other bulllshite. it's amazing to see how many "republicans" on getbig can abandon their beliefs because the talking boob tube told them to.
Not illegals. Those who are not here legally need to go back. If you want to come here and stay here, do it legally.
And I've never spewed any "act of love" bullshit. You're either trolling or not reading my posts and putting words in my mouth.
Unlike many, I actually get out of the house and make a living. I actually own a small business and have managed inside of larger companies. I don't post on getbig 20 hours a day and wouldn't want to.
I have clients, friends, and family members who own or manage businesses that employ large numbers of people who tell me that they have to hire foreign engineers, chemists, comp scientists, laborers, and recently doctors who were not born here. Too many Americans want to major in sociology or play x-box all day, unfortunately.
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Sorry 2Thick, I wasn't talking about you specifically. My disgust is with the GOP "leadership" and media that completely reversed course on an issue as huge as amnesty, two weeks after the 2012 defeat.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
Which Sterling thread did you mean to post this in?
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Never understood the point of 'illegal or legal', when we cannot trust the lawmakers.
Sounds like a great way to get fucked around, real fast.
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Which Sterling thread did you mean to post this in?
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I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
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Never understood the point of 'illegal or legal', when we cannot trust the lawmakers.
Sounds like a great way to get fucked around, real fast.
I'll let you smart guys sort it all out.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
ROFL
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
ROFL X 2 ;D
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I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
Didn't see any active Sterling threads, lol. That's why I wondered.
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I'll let you smart guys sort it all out.
Can't trust politicians, 2Thick. I'm sure you know that.
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ROFL
ROFL X 2 ;D
I'm sure ESFitness would be fun as hell to get drunk with.
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I'm sure ESFitness would be fun as hell to get drunk with.
haha, yeah!! He cracks me up, he's talented.
I reposted that business post in a million threads lol
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haha, yeah!! He cracks me up, he's talented.
I reposted that business post in a million threads lol
Hahaha... ;D I thought it had that ESFitness look to it.
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Immigration reform is needed NOW...the fucking flower bed isn't going to mulch itself.
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screw the american people..LOL
for your viewing pleasure -- http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381362/study-all-employment-growth-2000-went-immigrants-nro-staff
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From above link:
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Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants
According to a major new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), net employment growth in the United States since 2000 has gone entirely to immigrants, legal and illegal. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler found that there were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.
The rapidity with which immigrants recovered from the Great Recession, as well as the fact that they held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession, help to explain their findings, the authors report. In addition, native-born Americans and immigrants were affected differently by the recession.
Other significant findings include:
*Because the native-born population grew significantly, but the number working actually fell, there were 17 million more working-age natives not working in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000.
*The share of natives working or looking for work, referred to as labor force participation, shows the same decline as the employment rate. In fact, labor force participation has continued to decline for working-age natives even after the jobs recovery began in 2010.
*Immigrants have made gains across the labor market, including lower-skilled jobs such as maintenance, construction, and food service; middle-skilled jobs like office support and health care support; and higher-skilled jobs, including management, computers, and health care practitioners.
*The supply of potential workers is enormous: 8.7 million native college graduates are not working, as are 17 million with some college, and 25.3 million with no more than a high school education.
According to the study, 58 million working-age natives are not employed.
Camarota and Zeigler report three conclusions:
*First, the long-term decline in the employment for natives across age and education levels is a clear indication that there is no general labor shortage, which is a primary justification for the large increases in immigration (skilled and unskilled) in the Schumer-Rubio bill and similar House proposals.
*Second, the decline in work among the native-born over the last 14 years of high immigration is consistent with research showing that immigration reduces employment for natives.
*Third, the trends since 2000 challenge the argument that immigration on balance increases job opportunities for natives. Over 17 million immigrants arrived in the country in the last 14 years, yet native employment has deteriorated significantly.
The Center for Immigration Studies is a non-profit research institute. Founded in 1985, the organization is regularly consulted by policymakers, the academic community, and the media on matters of immigration policy.
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Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants
According to a major new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), net employment growth in the United States since 2000 has gone entirely to immigrants, legal and illegal. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler found that there were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.
this destroys the weak argument from liberals and fake-ass republicans that "immigrants only do the jobs that legal americans don't want to do!"
Seeing headlines like this, I can't understand how anyone can support dream or amnesty. Unless ALL JOB GROWTH in the USA in the last 14 years is "jobs americans dont want", then yes, very much so, illegals have taken american jobs.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
Owning a sports franchise isn't like owning an ordinary private business. You can force a man to sell his business if the man agreed that his ownership interest could be take away by the vote of other business owners. That's what happened to Sterling.
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this destroys the weak argument from liberals and fake-ass republicans that "immigrants only do the jobs that legal americans don't want to do!"
Seeing headlines like this, I can't understand how anyone can support dream or amnesty. Unless ALL JOB GROWTH in the USA in the last 14 years is "jobs americans dont want", then yes, very much so, illegals have taken american jobs.
Yes. The idea that someone would dare to proclaim certainty about what everyone else "doesn't want", when we're talking about the difference between surviving and being sunk, is absolutely outrageous. NO ONE can rightly decide that for others.
Think of the absurd level of presumption it requires, and tell me it doesn't define the very worst sort of elitism (not to mention stupidity).
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We've got to protect America, boys. We're getting stomped by the pigs. This issue is the FRONT LINE.
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It is a fight against the devil, friends, and nothing less than that. It is every bit that serious. Think of the only potential path.
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Owning a sports franchise isn't like owning an ordinary private business. You can force a man to sell his business if the man agreed that his ownership interest could be take away by the vote of other business owners. That's what happened to Sterling.
you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381589/obama-announces-less-interior-immigration-enforcement-joel-gehrke
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
Against "G&O-style", no can defend.
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Oh... well if Rupert Murdoch says it then I guess we better listen! Also, isn't it funny that Murdoch, who appeared quite senile at his hearing in front of a UK Parliamentary Committee, is now totally not senile?
What a fucking joke.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
I've owned and run a business for years too, but this sports franchise ownership is different. Sterling, like all owners, agreed to be bound by the NBA bylaws when he purchased the team. In fact, the owners had to approve his purchase of the team. It's really not that complicated. His ownership, like all NBA team owners, is contingent on whether the owners allow him to continue as an owner. That's what he signed up for.
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business.
Despite having owned, managed and invested in businesses you seem very confused. When Stirling acquired the Clippers, he agreed to a set of rules, similar to the rules that you would have to agree to when you purchase a home that is in common-interest development. Under that agreement, NBA owners could theoretically force him to sell. Do Sterling's actions be used to invoke that clause in the purchase agreement? Maybe, maybe not - that issue will most likely end up being adjudicated in Court.
if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
You're comparing apples and oranges.
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
(http://i.imgur.com/gFD5o.png)
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Some of you guys obviously don't read the G&O and don't even know who the legendary ESFitness is. ???
You should be ashamed to have not recognized my tributes to such an esteemed internets legend! :'(
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
it seems like you are still a bit angry and hostile. are you on parole?
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Some of you guys obviously don't read the G&O and don't even know who the legendary ESFitness is. ???
You should be ashamed to have not recognized my tributes to such an esteemed internets legend! :'(
Haha..oh, I've seen the "don't dis' me, bro" post (at least once in every thread, lol)
But the Sterling post was new (to me). Shoulda known it was an ESFitness production. Haha, I love it.
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Some of you guys obviously don't read the G&O and don't even know who the legendary ESFitness is. ???
You should be ashamed to have not recognized my tributes to such an esteemed internets legend! :'(
I didn't, you're right. I don't spend too much time in G&O. But hey, I've always wanted to post the "badass" meme and this gave me a chance!
Or maybe you prefer option d) - want to fight? ;D
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I didn't, you're right. I don't spend too much time in G&O. But hey, I've always wanted to post the "badass" meme and this gave me a chance!
Or maybe you prefer option d) - want to fight? ;D
I'll be in Dubia, India tomorrow if you wanna throw hands!
That dood in your avi is one sexy sumbitch! (no homo)...
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I'll be in Dubia, India tomorrow if you wanna throw hands!
I'm on my way now brah! Sign the damn waiver, and let's do this.
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I'm on my way now brah! Sign the damn waiver, and let's do this.
I'm in full tapout gear and warming up as I type this. MMA rules, correct?
My lawyer just faxed your lawyer the waiver back with my signature.
The cage awaits us!
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I'm in full tapout gear and warming up as I type this. MMA rules, correct?
My lawyer just faxed your lawyer the waiver back with my signature.
The cage awaits us!
Let's do Marquess of Queensbury rules instead.
Actually no, wait... TapOut gear? Shit brah, I just remembered I left the stove on. I'll... I'll be right back.