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Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« on: June 19, 2014, 08:11:30 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/rupert-murdoch-immigration-reform_n_5509876.html

Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait

Rupert Murdoch, the founder and CEO of News Corp, issued a call for immigration reform on Wednesday, writing in the Wall Street Journal: "One of the most immediate ways to revitalize our economy is by passing immigration reform."

In the opinion piece, Murdoch expressed his fear that the primary loss by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) would mean the end of immigration reform's chances of becoming a reality and admonished political opponents of immigration reform for being "dead wrong about the long-term interests of our country."

Murdoch, who also owns 21st Century Fox, pointed to other notable business and industries that have benefitted from immigrants.

"The Partnership for a New American Economy, a bipartisan group of political and business leaders, reports that people who moved here from abroad or their children founded more than 40% of America's Fortune 500 companies -- businesses that collectively employ millions of people," Murdoch wrote. "Do Americans really wish Google, eBay, Pfizer or Home Depot HD were headquartered in Eastern Europe or China instead of America? Whether it's a high-profile tech company or a small business employing just 10 people, 28% of all new American businesses started in 2011 were founded by immigrants. Those are entrepreneurial people we want to continue to attract to our economy."

Murdoch also outlined the steps Washington should take to reform immigration to ensure the vitality of American society and the economy, including: a path to citizenship for non-criminal immigrants living in the U.S.; the removal of caps on H-1B visas, which allow companies to hire foreign workers for specialty positions; and strengthening border security.

Murdoch's full column can be read here.

This isn't the first time that Murdoch has called for immigration reform; in 2010, he joined former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg in pressing for a legal path to citizenship. After the 2012 presidential election, Murdoch sent a tweet that stated "Must have sweeping, generous immigration reform."

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 08:18:00 AM »
Yeah - people like him in walled off gated mansions have nothing to worry about.

Its the rest of us who have to live amongst this cess pool these assholes desire.


F him. 

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 08:23:39 AM »
When people learn to do the opposite of what the Rupert Murdochs of the world insist upon, then we'll be going in the right direction.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, the Rupert Murdochs have the loudest voice, as they've cornered media. How convenient for them.

Where is the anti-globalist voice?

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 08:25:15 AM »
BTW: Shouldn't this piece of shit be doing a stretch for hacking?

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 09:08:39 AM »
According to leftists, the FOX News network lies, it is misinformed and only idiots would watch it. If that is true, then what does the say about the owner?

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2014, 09:12:29 AM »
These clowns never give a reason why this would be good for america or the american people.

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 02:25:40 PM »
When people learn to do the opposite of what the Rupert Murdochs of the world insist upon, then we'll be going in the right direction.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, the Rupert Murdochs have the loudest voice, as they've cornered media. How convenient for them.

Where is the anti-globalist voice?
if rupert likes it, roger ailes will have to like it.
then fox and friends will all of a sudden start to like it.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 09:02:42 AM »
this is the RINO wing of the republican party, doubling down.  They're facing panicked candidates - suddenly dudes like CANTOR are losing their jobs because of their insane positions on amnesty. 

All these folks in congress are panicking.  Many probably want to return to their original position, in which they (honestly) believe amnesty is bullshit.  But they obediently agreed to it, in Nov 2012, when Reince Priebus told them to.

The good news is that there might be a mini-tea-party thing going on.  Maybe repubs will stop acting like RINOs, if the cantors of the world get voted out.  This story is just the big conservative media trying to keep the amnesty push alive.  It's so funny... complete hispandering, no other way to put it... it's pathetic all around.  Can't beat the dems, so let's join em lol.

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2014, 11:40:21 AM »
Almost all media now is controlled by a single entity. So for all the thousands of channels and "outlets" we see, there is exactly one voice: that of the multi-billionaire.

So our common narrative is now set by something so uncommon.

It simply cannot stand with reason. No way, no how. That's the problem.

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2014, 11:43:30 AM »
Can't stand it when they go on and on about "The Royal Family", either.

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2014, 12:05:22 PM »
These guys in media aren't operating under any challenges (they should be, as a duty to the public). There's no competition between them to do that. So we end up in a situation that looks exactly like fixing or colluding. Everything about it is wrong.

(And we're talking about pure globalism pulling the strings, here, obviously. That's why the wonderful Republicans have suddenly been "finding their hearts" everywhere with respect to "immigration reform". It's a sellout to the entity, plain and simple.)

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2014, 01:31:34 PM »
I have no problem with properly screening and controlling immigrants and allowing them to come in legally as needed to fill the hard-to-fill jobs, and eventually become citizens and often legit business owners themselves in many cases.

If they're not criminals, are willing to contribute by working and paying taxes, and will respect the country and its laws, I have no problem with letting some in and keeping some here as needed.

But just leaving it all wide open for tens of millions of criminals and welfare cases and having our govt work with their govts to get their families here as well and just keep them all here forever is not the way to do it. The needs of the US and its citizens should be what matters to the US - not the needs of those from other countries.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2014, 01:48:00 PM »
they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.

Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate.  But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it!  At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now.  They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay".  They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.

But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."

They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior.  I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"   

You either support it or you don't.  You don't just "shift" overnight.  If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.

Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay.  but Repubs?  Come on.

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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2014, 01:57:59 PM »
I've said essentially the same thing I said in my above post here months ago in another thread on at least one other occasion.

Low-level jobs that most Americans won't take, and jobs like engineering jobs that most Americans can't take need to be filled by somebody.

Control it and do it legally on an as-needed basis.

But just opening everything up wide and letting in murderers, rapists, welfare cases, etc ain't the way to go.

they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.

Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate.  But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it!  At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now.  They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay".  They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.

But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."

They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior.  I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"   

You either support it or you don't.  You don't just "shift" overnight.  If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.

Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay.  but Repubs?  Come on.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says Immigration Reform Can't Wait
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2014, 07:17:37 AM »

I have no problem with properly screening and controlling immigrants and allowing them to come in legally as needed to fill the hard-to-fill jobs, and eventually become citizens and often legit business owners themselves in many cases.

If they're not criminals, are willing to contribute by working and paying taxes, and will respect the country and its laws, I have no problem with letting some in and keeping some here as needed.

But just leaving it all wide open for tens of millions of criminals and welfare cases and having our govt work with their govts to get their families here as well and just keep them all here forever is not the way to do it. The needs of the US and its citizens should be what matters to the US - not the needs of those from other countries.

But you do. You're speaking only for yourself, when the subject is our country as a whole.

(BTW: We have 300M+ people, which includes every bit the potential for anything we could need. It is an absolute crime to dismiss that potential as though it doesn't exist. So please quit using a bogus narrative that is geared only toward devaluation. It is false.)

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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2014, 07:21:07 AM »
they do it because they know so many republicans will completely ABANDON everything they believe, and quickly accept whatever new narrative they tell them to adopt.

Two years ago, there was NO WAY repubs would support a pro-amnesty candidate.  But now, since FOX and Hannity and Reince and Jeb tells them it's okay, well, they're alright with it!  At least 2 very active getbig republican posters have said, this week, that they're cool with amnesty now.  They're cool with criminals staying here, enjoying our resources, because it's inevitable anyway, or "at least the ones that work can stay".  They're taking jobs from legal americans and breaking the law just by being here.

But media brains know it already - their viewers have no solid beliefs, other than "yeah, i'm cool with whatever the repubs like, and I hate liberals, those dirty lousy lazy liberals, they should be shot, liberals aren't real people, theyre dirt, etc..."

They spend 30 seconds adopting the latest position of the party, and 59:30 shitting on liberals, and go to bed smiling about how their 'belief system' is superior.  I mean, something as direct and black and white as "should people breaking the law currently, be allowed to stay here and enjoy our jobs and resources?"  

You either support it or you don't.  You don't just "shift" overnight.  If you can shift that fast, then you never knew what you believed in the first place, and you're cool with letting politicians decide for you - the complete opposite of what repubs are supposed to stand for.

Libs suck, and I 100% expect them to support letting lawbreaking illegals stay.  but Repubs?  Come on.

Yeah, the one thing that freaks me out more than anything else, is seeing all these people spin right backward as though it is the most natural thing in the world to act without thinking - all because some guy on TV told them to do that.

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2014, 09:03:53 AM »
Yeah, the one thing that freaks me out more than anything else, is seeing all these people spin right backward as though it is the most natural thing in the world to act without thinking - all because some guy on TV told them to do that.

It's one of the easiest issues to choose a side - either you're okay with people BREAKING THE LAW - they are breaking the law by being here, this isn't in question - Or you're not okay with it.   

People that can switch positions so quickly... well, they don't know what they believe.  they want the TV and their politicians to tell them what to think.

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2014, 02:08:08 PM »
But you do. You're speaking only for yourself, when the subject is our country as a whole.

(BTW: We have 300M+ people, which includes every bit the potential for anything we could need. It is an absolute crime to dismiss that potential as though it doesn't exist. So please quit using a bogus narrative that is geared only toward devaluation. It is false.)

Yes, I can only speak for myself. Sorry, I cannot possibly speak for 300 million others.  ???

I have an opinion. If you don't like it, fine.

If you think I've got a "problem" for having an opinion different from yours, that's your "problem", not mine.

There are always shortages of people to fill certain jobs here. That's a fact. And this country was founded on immigration - we all came from somewhere else. You're insane if you think it will ever stop. I'm realistic enough to see that we should try to limit those immigrants coming in to those who will contribute and improve the nation.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2014, 03:44:21 PM »
Yes, I can only speak for myself. Sorry, I cannot possibly speak for 300 million others.  ???

I have an opinion. If you don't like it, fine.

If you think I've got a "problem" for having an opinion different from yours, that's your "problem", not mine.

There are always shortages of people to fill certain jobs here. That's a fact. And this country was founded on immigration - we all came from somewhere else. You're insane if you think it will ever stop. I'm realistic enough to see that we should try to limit those immigrants coming in to those who will contribute and improve the nation.

And who shall we trust to "try" this?


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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2014, 08:18:48 AM »
And who shall we trust to "try" this?



I don't trust the govt as a whole either, and no doubt most (if not all) politicians and their more generous and energetic supporters are to blame. Most are either corrupt from the getgo or become part of the corrupt system at some point just to survive. The few who don't play ball get viciously attacked by both parties, usually moreso by their own.

But if it's a given that immigrants have always come over and always will, and big govt will spend tons of money on the issue no matter what, I think it's a no-brainer for our nation to survive that there should be a radical shift towards having common sense controls put in place - reasonable efforts to secure the borders, required background checks, limit those coming in to those who will serve a meaningful purpose here, etc.

Of course I'm not holding my breath. To do so would no doubt be labeled "discrimination" and all sorts of other horrible names by the PC mob that now runs the world.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2014, 03:32:04 PM »
I don't trust the govt as a whole either, and no doubt most (if not all) politicians and their more generous and energetic supporters are to blame. Most are either corrupt from the getgo or become part of the corrupt system at some point just to survive. The few who don't play ball get viciously attacked by both parties, usually moreso by their own.

But if it's a given that immigrants have always come over and always will, and big govt will spend tons of money on the issue no matter what, I think it's a no-brainer for our nation to survive that there should be a radical shift towards having common sense controls put in place - reasonable efforts to secure the borders, required background checks, limit those coming in to those who will serve a meaningful purpose here, etc.

Of course I'm not holding my breath. To do so would no doubt be labeled "discrimination" and all sorts of other horrible names by the PC mob that now runs the world.

Meaningful in what way?

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2014, 11:28:07 AM »
Meaningful in what way?

In ways this country always used to think were meaningful - gainfully employed or looking for work, or starting legit businesses or investing in them if they have the means, or going to college or trade school, paying required taxes, obeying the laws, etc.

What would you consider meaningful or not meaningful?
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2014, 06:02:34 PM »
In ways this country always used to think were meaningful - gainfully employed or looking for work, or starting legit businesses or investing in them if they have the means, or going to college or trade school, paying required taxes, obeying the laws, etc.

What would you consider meaningful or not meaningful?

But who gets to decide what's okay in this regard?

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2014, 06:48:47 PM »
But who gets to decide what's okay in this regard?

they're ALL lawbreakers.  Any "undocumented worker" is actually an "illegal alien" in that they commit a crime daily.

now, these "repubs" are suddenly like "well, if they're willing to work..." - Well, the illegals are breaking the law, so already you are willing to let people break the law, as long as they hold a job?  Yet if any of us "legals" breaks the law daily, we go to jail. 

They don't know what they believe in.  They shift their belief system daily based upon what FOX and Rush tell them, and they cannot argue that.  Most were shitting all over obama for pushing his DREAM crap, and suddenly they're telling us how important it is to let these illegals stay due to "acts of love" or other bulllshite.  it's amazing to see how many "republicans" on getbig can abandon their beliefs because the talking boob tube told them to.

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2014, 06:53:56 PM »
W all these invaders rushin the border - immigration law not going to happen



they're ALL lawbreakers.  Any "undocumented worker" is actually an "illegal alien" in that they commit a crime daily.

now, these "repubs" are suddenly like "well, if they're willing to work..." - Well, the illegals are breaking the law, so already you are willing to let people break the law, as long as they hold a job?  Yet if any of us "legals" breaks the law daily, we go to jail. 

They don't know what they believe in.  They shift their belief system daily based upon what FOX and Rush tell them, and they cannot argue that.  Most were shitting all over obama for pushing his DREAM crap, and suddenly they're telling us how important it is to let these illegals stay due to "acts of love" or other bulllshite.  it's amazing to see how many "republicans" on getbig can abandon their beliefs because the talking boob tube told them to.