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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: bhank on August 31, 2023, 08:45:12 AM
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After review the Rogue Bar was too long and the grips were too large and with shipping it was like 500 bucks. I decided just to pick up a cheap cap barbell trap bar for 85 bucks including shipping if I hate it or it breaks I can upgrade. It is only 4.5 feet long not 7.5 so way smaller than the Rogue. Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
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After review the Rogue Bar was too long and the grips were too large and with shipping it was like 500 bucks. I decided just to pick up a cheap cap barbell trap bar for 85 bucks including shipping if I hate it or it breaks I can upgrade. It is only 4.5 feet long not 7.5 so way smaller than the Rogue. Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
Those CAP's work just fine... I have one of them myself...
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After review the Rogue Bar was too long and the grips were too large and with shipping it was like 500 bucks. I decided just to pick up a cheap cap barbell trap bar for 85 bucks including shipping if I hate it or it breaks I can upgrade. It is only 4.5 feet long not 7.5 so way smaller than the Rogue. Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
It won’t break, you can’t lift enough weight to put it under any stress.
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It’s a trap
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I didn't realize the Rogue bar was 7.5 feet long until someone mentioned that in other thread also it has unusual large hand grips looked cumbersome in video. I wanted something that would take less footprint. The bars I have seen people using are all like 4.5 feet long which the cap is also for fuck sake Rogue wanted to charge me 75 dollars shipping on a 375 dollar bar plus tax. Cap bar was 79 bucks on amazon and shipped free 85 bucks total with tax @score
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Trap Bar Definition: Hankys new gimmick of the month.
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Trap Bar Definition: Hankys new gimmick of the month.
Just want to try something different may even do some farmer walks with it
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You are ignoring this loser.
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Just want to try something different may even do some farmer walks with it
Great for farmers as well, yup...
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Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
You can say Coop, it's ok.
How are the foster kids doing?
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This should not have posted in Gossip & Opinions forum. Mods, please move this to the proper section-The Training board.
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You are ignoring this loser.
My message says..........
You are ignoring this Baldy Fat Gut Khvnt Lying sack of Shit
Thanks Ron ;D
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My message says..........
You are ignoring this Baldy Fat Gut Khvnt Lying sack of Shit
Thanks Ron ;D
I have to talk to Ron to get my message upgraded....I feel slighted! :(
;D
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You can say Coop, it's ok.
How are the foster kids doing?
Not Coop he is hitting 500 for a single on the trap bar but yes a strict curler as they prefer not using the over under grip on a regular deadlift hence the trap deads
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Not Coop he is hitting 500 for a single on the trap bar but yes a strict curler as they prefer not using the over under grip on a regular deadlift hence the trap deads
#500 TB usually equals out to around #450 conventional. Usually about a 10%ish drop between the two give or take.
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Just want to try something different may even do some farmer walks with it
I got one of each kicking around in here (raised and not raised handles)..
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I got one of each kicking around in here (raised and not raised handles)..
That is an impressive home gym. My space is smaller but I am starting to trickle equipment out into other areas
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That is an impressive home gym. My space is smaller but I am starting to trickle equipment out into other areas
Pretty much at its space-limit now. I have enough floor space where two of us can deadlift at the same time.
If my wife would only lift the same weight as me we wouldnt need that extra floor-space. (Kidding of course, the space is needed anyways to get around in there).
Its a double-garage, and I always had my band-room on the other side where we rehearsed. But we shut that down a couple years ago when my brother-inlaw died.
We had the band for 20+ years together...
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#500 TB usually equals out to around #450 conventional. Usually about a 10%ish drop between the two give or take.
I would estimate a 15-20% drop if you use high handles.
I love Rogue equipment, but don't see the point on spending for a trap bar. I have a 75lb one I got for 75 bucks that's an absolute tank.
The CAP one hankins got will be just fine.
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I heard you're looking for a trap bar Hanky!
https://www.thailandredcat.com/best-ladyboy-go-go-bars-in-bangkok/ (https://www.thailandredcat.com/best-ladyboy-go-go-bars-in-bangkok/)
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I would estimate a 15-20% drop if you use high handles.
I love Rogue equipment, but don't see the point on spending for a trap bar. I have a 75lb one I got for 75 bucks that's an absolute tank.
The CAP one hankins got will be just fine.
Drop? Or did you mean "gain"? People can pull more w/ raised handles... Higher starting position like a rack-pull...
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Drop? Or did you mean "gain"? People can pull more w/ raised handles... Higher starting position like a rack-pull...
Good sir, please read the quoted part of my post.
We are talking about a drop in conventional vs trap.
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After review the Rogue Bar was too long and the grips were too large and with shipping it was like 500 bucks. I decided just to pick up a cheap cap barbell trap bar for 85 bucks including shipping if I hate it or it breaks I can upgrade. It is only 4.5 feet long not 7.5 so way smaller than the Rogue. Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
Good thinking.
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I would estimate a 15-20% drop if you use high handles.
I love Rogue equipment, but don't see the point on spending for a trap bar. I have a 75lb one I got for 75 bucks that's an absolute tank.
The CAP one hankins got will be just fine.
Yeah, I can see it being 15-20% on the High handles, most of my data and actual deadlifting is on the old single gripped "Gerard" style.
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Drop? Or did you mean "gain"? People can pull more w/ raised handles... Higher starting position like a rack-pull...
Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
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Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
All will be answered in time, Little One.
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I like to do trap-pulls on back day, in place of deads... I feel it more in my legs though to be honest. (Like a "squat pull") and less in lower-back...
With my latest round of back issues Ill be bringing these back in and maybe even (bite my tongue) start pulling sump on straight-bar DL's..
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After review the Rogue Bar was too long and the grips were too large and with shipping it was like 500 bucks. I decided just to pick up a cheap cap barbell trap bar for 85 bucks including shipping if I hate it or it breaks I can upgrade. It is only 4.5 feet long not 7.5 so way smaller than the Rogue. Also my buddy who did 550lbs for 10 reps was using a cap bar so should work just fine.
Brian, you never mentioned this buddy before. It’s been proven time and time again you do not have friends
It’s either Coop or your brother.
Which one is it?
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this one looks very cool
https://kabukistrength.com/products/the-trap-bar?variant=42452079214778
(https://i.postimg.cc/xT6JzTvM/Screenshot-20230831-200621.jpg)
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Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
If you really want to feel it in your quads, build a little podium to stand on, the longer/deeper you can make the pull, the more chance you'll feel it in the quads.
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Bhank is like a paralyzed guy buying new running sneakers.
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New toys.
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Yeah, I can see it being 15-20% on the High handles, most of my data and actual deadlifting is on the old single gripped "Gerard" style.
Gotcha - had to google the "gerard" though lol.
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Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
I don't think the movement is great for development much at all. It will hit the quads, hams and back, but I feel it's more for strength/power.
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I don't think the movement is great for development much at all. It will hit the quads, hams and back, but I feel it's more for strength/power.
Yup... Though with 20 rep sets I've had some decent leg growth/swelling... I guess 20 reps of anything fairly heavy could cause some growth..
A good power move for sure though..
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Serious question. Does anyone here think they’d be able to deadlift Hanky’s coffin? Even with a conventional bar? How much does a coffin add to body weight?
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Quad dominant people have an interesting DL style.
920lbs
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Serious question. Does anyone here think they’d be able to deadlift Hanky’s coffin? Even with a conventional bar? How much does a coffin add to body weight?
Standard coffins weigh between #150-300lbs, The empty belly versions (#150-200) are sized up to about a low #200s man. The full belly versions are in the #200-300 range, and can hold double that.
You figure you're looking a #400+ Hankins Deadlift (odd lift) at least.
Info provided by J Clegg and Sons Funeral Parlor.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNj6vNsG/istockphoto-169944686-612x612.jpg).
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I only tried a trap bar once. Eleiko brand. It started tilting and felt uncentered. It didn't have revolving handles, maybe that's why. I immediately gave it up although I usually love deadlift everything.
Best whole body movement that hits a lot of tissue: deficit deadlifts. Stand on something where your feet barely fit under the bar. Only problem is that it's so taxing and uncomfortable you tend to put it off, at least I do.
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Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
it's just a tool, you can use it lots of ways
shrug with it for traps
be more upright on the pull for more quads
use the lower handles for more lower back
hell band it and jump into tripple extension
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this one looks very cool
https://kabukistrength.com/products/the-trap-bar?variant=42452079214778
(https://i.postimg.cc/xT6JzTvM/Screenshot-20230831-200621.jpg)
Looks great, fancy. Would love to try it out. Though more fancy doesn't always mean better, mostly worse. Regarding making good equipment, I think Kabuki made some specialty bars with lots of testing and thought behind it but some powerlifters said they were the worst bars they'd used. Someone said their bar fucked up an entire meet for everyone lol. Lots of injuries. Even something like a bar which you'd think is simple enough is hard to get just right.
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Looks great, fancy. Would love to try it out. Though more fancy doesn't always mean better, mostly worse. Regarding making good equipment, I think Kabuki made some specialty bars with lots of testing and thought behind it but some powerlifters said they were the worst bars they'd used. Someone said their bar fucked up an entire meet for everyone lol. Lots of injuries. Even something like a bar which you'd think is simple enough is hard to get just right.
There’s one of those at gym I go too it almost never ever gets used maybe seen it used maybe 2-3 times total
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Serious question. Does anyone here think they’d be able to deadlift Hanky’s coffin? Even with a conventional bar? How much does a coffin add to body weight?
Considering Emily will take him for everything he is worth. I’m pretty sure he’ll be cremated.
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Do you feel the trap deads more in your back or your quads I would imagine hams still get significant work just less in lower back? Is it a good overall back developer or more upper back traps is it an overall leg developer? Should it go on a back day or a leg day?
Trap Bar deads are better on the legs, easier on the lower back, and a far more normal and natural feeling. You can do farmer walks, overhead press, rows, etc.
The reason for the wide ones on the Rougue and Sorinex ones are because they accommodate bumper plates which are wider than the metal 45's.
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Standard coffins weigh between #150-300lbs, The empty belly versions (#150-200) are sized up to about a low #200s man. The full belly versions are in the #200-300 range, and can hold double that.
You figure you're looking a #400+ Hankins Deadlift (odd lift) at least.
Info provided by J Clegg and Sons Funeral Parlor.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNj6vNsG/istockphoto-169944686-612x612.jpg).
Brilliant, BB
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Standard coffins weigh between #150-300lbs, The empty belly versions (#150-200) are sized up to about a low #200s man. The full belly versions are in the #200-300 range, and can hold double that.
You figure you're looking a #400+ Hankins Deadlift (odd lift) at least.
Info provided by J Clegg and Sons Funeral Parlor.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNj6vNsG/istockphoto-169944686-612x612.jpg).
Lololollolololololol
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Just do conventional deadlifts you mong..............you act like you discovered fire with this trap bar bullshit.
Looking For An Easy Way Out Of Peace
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Standard coffins weigh between #150-300lbs, The empty belly versions (#150-200) are sized up to about a low #200s man. The full belly versions are in the #200-300 range, and can hold double that.
You figure you're looking a #400+ Hankins Deadlift (odd lift) at least.
Info provided by J Clegg and Sons Funeral Parlor.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNj6vNsG/istockphoto-169944686-612x612.jpg).
Anyone carrying Hankins coffin should avoid the head end...
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Just do conventional deadlifts you mong..............you act like you discovered fire with this trap bar bullshit.
Looking For An Easy Way Out Of Peace
:D
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Fucks sake Brian has you eating out of his hand again
I cant believe people are responding positively to the twat because hes made up some bullshit story about a journey to 500lb, his "315 bench press club" distraction didnt work to deflect from his SCN failure so hes moved on to this and caught you all out.
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Just do conventional deadlifts you mong..............you act like you discovered fire with this trap bar bullshit.
Looking For An Easy Way Out Of Peace
In Cro-Hanky's defense it isn't an act. He always looks like he just discovered fire.
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Fucks sake Brian has you eating out of his hand again
I cant believe people are responding positively to the twat because hes made up some bullshit story about a journey to 500lb, his "315 bench press club" distraction didnt work to deflect from his SCN failure so hes moved on to this and caught you all out.
We are just pulling his skinny legs.
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I believe hanky will be able to pull 500 once the knee sleeves arrive
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I believe hanky will be able to pull 500 once the knee sleeves hernia truss arrives
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We are just pulling his skinny legs.
If the shorts fit…
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In my commercial gym they had one generally unused. I saw a guy using it one day with three plates a side. I wanted to try it. The thing I found is that if you lift it unbalanced by not having your hands even and relative centering with your body the load can be off. I did a couple of reps with it just to try it. Three plates a side felt light and I bet I thought that because of the less range of motion because of the high handles.
These are my observations. There is a slight learning curve but I bet it can be mastered very quickly. I could be a lot more healthy over all for your back. Less hinging of the lower back. Using the high handles you cut the range of motion allowing you use more weight. You can flip it over for more range of motion. It makes your legs and lower back stronger.
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This should not have posted in Gossip & Opinions forum. Mods, please move this to the proper section-The Training board.
You're right Gene. Done.
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I don't like moving plates so I kind of just leave them on stuff wanted to get some 100lb bumper plates and realized the weight cost more than the bar lol
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You're right Gene. Done.
hahahahaha ;D
top level trolling
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Best whole body movement that hits a lot of tissue: deficit deadlifts. Stand on something where your feet barely fit under the bar. Only problem is that it's so taxing and uncomfortable you tend to put it off, at least I do.
My bread and butter lift. Sometimes 2” block, sometimes 2plates…
Thing is with a heavy cartilage damage in my knees this is more doable than squats. The negative part of the squat taxes bad cartilage the most and with any kind of deads you can just do the positives. I’ll follow the bar thought and not just outright drop it.
Sometimes little extra extensions on the side. Works for me 👍
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Trying to get some bumper plates any recommendations? Rogue has like 10 different types
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Just do conventional deadlifts you mong..............you act like you discovered fire with this trap bar bullshit.
Looking For An Easy Way Out Of Peace
I do both but prefer the Trap Bar by far since it feels like less strain on lower back and more focus on the legs in a natural position.
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Trying to get some bumper plates any recommendations? Rogue has like 10 different types
Trying? Who the fuck "tries" to get bumper plates???
Anyone who is mensa level would think to look on facebook marketplace first. Or, possibly even use this thing called "Google" and look up bumper plate sites.
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Trying? Who the fuck "tries" to get bumper plates???
Anyone who is mensa level would think to look on facebook marketplace first. Or, possibly even use this thing called "Google" and look up bumper plate sites.
Or stop paying for Orphan Annie at the urch Mansion and put your inheritance money into plates!
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You're right Gene. Done.
thank you
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I don't like moving plates so I kind of just leave them on stuff wanted to get some 100lb bumper plates and realized the weight cost more than the bar lol
Trying to get some bumper plates any recommendations? Rogue has like 10 different types
Low priced, but good - https://wright-equipment.com/collections/rubber-bumper-plates/products/wright-color-rubber-bumper-plates .
Wright was who Crossfit originally recommended, and Rogue sold them up until a few years ago, when they went mostly to their own labels.
Eleiko has these on sale - https://eleiko.com/en-us/equipment/plates/fitness/3085126-45-eleiko-xf-bumper-plate-45-lbs-black .
These two are training bumpers so they are thicker, for instance a #45 is just under 3.5" thick.
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These are thinner training bumpers -
https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-color-echo-bumper-plate .
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On competition bumpers, these are a good deal - https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-lb-competition-plates-2023-games-used .
If you're buying new, just buy these and call it good -
https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-kg-competition-plates-iwf .
https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-color-lb-training-2-0-plates .
Competition bumpers are a good bit thinner.
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If you're not buying used, and want competition plates, just pay. There really isn't much of a break on the big brands.
Also if you mix a Kg set and a Lb set, you don't have to mess around with change plates as much. That's how I made my sets up when I bought them. 1 Kg set, 1 lb set.
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thank you
Been awhile Gene, hope the family is well. 8)
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Just saw a video that showed a guy doing explosive fast high pulls with the trap bar. That could be the perfect application for that bar.