You have been saying for years you were going to compete for Sonny and then for your Daughter???Sonny has been Dead for years and your Daughter will be married with kids before long.Now you have your IFBB Pro card back and all your athletes have some Mysterious Illness you have NO reason not to compete.So King of the Serbs when is the Big day???Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm.FFS
Well Nasser is on record as Fucking Milos wife so I guess he could Fuck Milos.
Milos is too fuckin old now, he could never come close to regaining his former self. :-X
Thanks for the shout out! ;D
Your mama is too old... :-* and I am always close to my former self - as I am not bodybuilding competitor as a "side effect" of my lifestyle...I live my lifestyle to be/look/feel...etc like I do 365 days a year...not like many others who look/feel/are almost obese year around - looking like they can drop dead any minute of a day if they just bent over to put their shoes on...and manage to get in shape once/year (and some years not as often...) - looking pretty damn good for a day or so...but in reality feeling like they are already in spiritual world...but somewhat disadvantaged - due to absence of their mind...brain...body...en ergy...LIFE...etc...
Oh well...maybe I should actually agree with you - so you could celebrate....???
NOT! ;D
Why not come to the Koloseum on June 27th and ask him in person?
Or are you chicken? :D
"Switznegger" could not afford the extra pair of underwear to replace the one he would soil in our presence.Will you be bringing your beastly sidekick? 8)
I, however, will be there on J27.
Will you be bringing your beastly sidekick? 8)
Your mama is too old... :-* and I am always close to my former self - as I am not bodybuilding competitor as a "side effect" of my lifestyle...I live my lifestyle to be/look/feel...etc like I do 365 days a year...not like many others who look/feel/are almost obese year around - looking like they can drop dead any minute of a day if they just bent over to put their shoes on...and manage to get in shape once/year (and some years not as often...) - looking pretty damn good for a day or so...but in reality feeling like they are already in spiritual world...but somewhat disadvantaged - due to absence of their mind...brain...body...en ergy...LIFE...etc...
Oh well...maybe I should actually agree with you - so you could celebrate....???
NOT! ;D
At any given time of the year, Milos is basically 12 weeks out from being contest ready.Is that meant to be a compliment? I mean hopefully that would be for the majority of bodybuilders
Milos, your recommendation of ART for shoulder changed my life in a big way. if you ever need lunch, a kidney, whatever, drop me a line.
Is that meant to be a compliment? I mean hopefully that would be for the majority of bodybuilders
Milos if you were such a Great Friend of Sonny how many times did you visit him in PRISON before he Died???
OK...what Kevin can - I can do better... ;)
I am starting few days later - giving him a chance to "catch up"...
I said anything Kevin can do - I could do better...so cheating is also potentially an option...
Even though - I don't know what are you talking about...?
I just saw perfect opportunity for me to find a reason to start my transformation as well...
I have been away from lifting weights almost two years now...
Last week I trained back and legs...Today I trained chest with Binais and Dan Decker...and here are few pics...
Milos has already mentioned recently on his website that you has started his comeback:Damn Milos you are still looking good. Come back and shut these guys up great replies to your enemies here as well.
JUNE 1ST, 2009:
Yes, but Milos has been away from competition for a long time. Also, I would put his condition at above the level of most off-season bodybuilders.
thats because of constant use of trenbolone masteron testosterone and growth with insulin and t3,,those drugs year around especially if home brwed and you know your guy,,,those products in good enough doses injected on a daiuly basis will make any bodybuilder in shape on a constant basis ESPECIALY if eats right and he eats right thats why the deep deep cuts ,,if you dotn eat 100% on while using this products you will still have the cuts but not as deep ,,this has nothing absolutely nothing to do with genetics or genetic respond to hormones,,this is condition made by the drugs mentioned and perfect diet,,less then perfect diet will result in not as deep cuts but still 6-7% even with jamaican food diet all day long
gh15 approved
i made jamaican food so famos in bodybuilding circles ,,they need to give me some of profits for that foodm,,but yes jamaican food is the absolut best food a bodybuilder can eat ,,it is simply good solid meal that taste good,, i have yet to find better food for bodybuilder than jamaican not even sushi since sushi gets you bloated,,,jamaican with the products i mention gets you solid and cut
gh15 approved
thats because of constant use of trenbolone masteron testosterone and growth with insulin and t3,,those drugs year around especially if home brwed and you know your guy,,,those products in good enough doses injected on a daiuly basis will make any bodybuilder in shape on a constant basis ESPECIALY if eats right and he eats right thats why the deep deep cuts ,,if you dotn eat 100% on while using this products you will still have the cuts but not as deep ,,this has nothing absolutely nothing to do with genetics or genetic respond to hormones,,this is condition made by the drugs mentioned and perfect diet,,less then perfect diet will result in not as deep cuts but still 6-7% even with jamaican food diet all day long
gh15 approved
thats because of constant use of trenbolone masteron testosterone and growth with insulin and t3,,those drugs year around especially if home brwed and you know your guy,,,those products in good enough doses injected on a daiuly basis will make any bodybuilder in shape on a constant basis ESPECIALY if eats right and he eats right thats why the deep deep cuts ,,if you dotn eat 100% on while using this products you will still have the cuts but not as deep ,,this has nothing absolutely nothing to do with genetics or genetic respond to hormones,,this is condition made by the drugs mentioned and perfect diet,,less then perfect diet will result in not as deep cuts but still 6-7% even with jamaican food diet all day long
gh15 approved
You have to try this donuts - filled with apple sauce or cherry...or...OMG - I've been having hard time choosing the right flavor...
I had about 30 donuts/week and 3 extra-large pizza's per week for few months now...and I am MAYBE (?) ready to switch to some other FUEL...
I know that many will criticize me after this statement but so be it:
As long as I have amount of protein that I need - I would NOT care that much about choice of my FUEL calories or "ENERGY FOODS"...What I mean by that is: IF I am going to use ENERGY for whatever activity throughout a day (and "whatever activity" excluded lifting anything heavier than ...let's say - a book...for about A YEAR now!?!?!?) - I prefer using (eating) what my taste buds prefer...rather than sticking with "bodybuilding carbohydrate/fat/energy choices"...
I always considered a "WASTE" - eating some carbs that I really don't want (or like) in the first place - JUST BECAUSE is expected...from - professional bodybuilder...
I mean: bread is not allowed - you know...but you could have your rice and potatoes of YOUR CHOICE!?
Hallelujah!
Let's see: I could have white rice or a brown one...Well, also (if I am not color blind) I could enjoy - yellow, red, purple, BLACK...and how about blue? Anyone seen blue rice? Well...maybe I should do a search?
But, no time for that...wait the minute - I remember: wild rice !? (I like WILD - sounds...well - WILD...great - I could have wild rice too !? - life is a BEAUTIFUL thing...). What? I could have Basmati Rice?
Jasmine rice? Oh my God :o :o...Is somebody joking?
Well - what is forbidden than?
I could have it all?
How about - forbidden rice?
Mochi rice, Pecan rice, Wehani rice, Ambemohar rice?!?
And should I start with potatoes?
Yellow, white, red, sweet...and not so sweet...My favorite is - couch potato...
When couch potato eats potato on a couch - that's the ultimate!
I think I should do the "cover shot" for some nutritional/bodybuilding publication...
"Couch potato news"...featuring "French fries killer".
As one of the IFBB pro bodybuilders said before: potato is potato...and I just like mine fried ::) ::)...
OK...I was going to make "quick point"...and look...
My point was - why eat only certain energy foods and avoid other...if you know that FIRE IS BURNING and anything you throw in a fire will burn...just as well (and sometimes better?)...giving you NOT just energy needed for "whatever activities" (Hmmmm, I should say - workouts...shouldn't I?)...but also a PLEASURE...for SURE ;)...and a "piece of mind"... 8)...so you could "enter the mind with the piece of mind and ask Mind if he is out of his mind...?"
Oh - got to go now...
if you know that FIRE IS BURNING and anything you throw in a fire will burn
And WHAT keeps the FIRE burning?
Aaaaaaa??? Well - that would be NORMALLY, usually....quite daily...always...forever and everrrrrrr....LIFE!!!
First priority for life....is.....EEEEEEEEE EEENNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
FIRE IS BURNING ALL DAY LONG...if you pay attention you could smell the fire and feel the HEATH...
Resting metabolic rate + every single second of every single part of the body, every single day using ENERGY to exist...to blink, to breath...to oh - THINK (I see many people don't spend much calories on that nowadays...and MAYBE exactly THINKING as my MOST INTENSE ACTIVITY of the year (in last year or so...staying away from the gym and NOT lifting anything heavier than fork and the knife simultaneously (yes Antonio Bilateral isometric muscle contraction during EATING any meal in particular...wait the minute - eating pizza and donuts DOESN'T require fork or a knife... :-\ :-\ :-\ - oooops - what's my excuse now?.... ;) ;) ;) - THINKING...is = FIRE IS BURNING = think of every "energy foods you put in your mouth as flame - your body used in whatever energy demand you are doing...or THINK OF DOING...and see what happens?
And ask people who THINK they are going to get fat IF they get fat?
Some even say IF I EAT THAT - IT WILL BE STORED RIGHT HERE (pointing at their waist, back, glutes, love-handles...) and guess what - INDEED - "THAT" became the part of the body they pointed out ....as they were THINKING about it, and suggesting that "physiology" (body) gets order from "psychology" (the mind)...and even though they don't realize - their EXACT WAY OF THINKING commands those calories to be saved (not used or BURNED) but rather saved and stored at whatever place they are THINKING (or fearing about) possibly storing...
YES - it is LAW OF ATTRACTION that works here as well - possibly better than many other aspects of life...
Why do you think Dexter Jacson eats anything he wants as he knows and claims always that - he could eat anything he wants and never gets fat...etc...etc...
Examples are just too many to mention...
But fact is (at least to me) that majority of people IN FEAR NOT TO GET FAT and thinking about certain scenario (getting fat if eating certain foods that potentially could get them fat...as they know that carbs or sugars or fats...blah-blah-blah COULD BE STORED IF NOT NEEDED...) CREATING exact environment for their fear to materialize - not realizing THEY ARE THE ONES DOING IT....
What do you mean 100% Natural?
I am only 92.3% Natural Monday through Friday - and Saturday/Sunday down to 85%...
On Natural Beach - I am also Not Natural as I can't take everything OFF unless I am with my wife or at doctors office ...hmmmm - bad memories - better leave it at that...
I had 3 workouts so far (maybe 10 in over 2 years)...but I am physically active (walk to my car, from parking to the gym and back + back to my house - 6 days a week...) - and that is why I am in decent shape... ;)
OK, I will tell you the secret: I don't allow body fat accumulation - and I am trying to convince myself that I am in constant anti-catabolic protection (my mind is burning all the energy calories in imaginary fire I have it burning all day long...and I am PROHIBITING any muscle tissue degradation - and it seems to be working quite good...)
Before, my mind would slip and I would often catch myself thinking - well, I am not training and that means I will loose muscle size...and guess what - I would loose it...And than I realized - like with everything else - psychology commands physiology - and my mind started commanding my body...so - I look like I command myself to look like, Feel like - I want to feel like...etc...etc... ;)
Milos has already mentioned recently on his website that you has started his comeback:looking good for a natural. ;D
JUNE 1ST, 2009:
no tren ace as in fina is the only product that is used now days and have its proof in solidfying a physiqe while adding to it lean muscle mass,,it is the only product that can actually add lean muscle to you while decreasing body fat at the same time ,,its a fast acting drugs and if you have it done right as in nto scam ug bunk but more serious one and very few are around,,then you have gold in yoru hand,,,Nice post Dennis good luck this year.
the more you inject it the better you will look ,,,if you can manage 100mg ed id go with it ,,150 mg max ,,anything over 150mg a day and you ask for trouble after few months ,,it is a duretic and it takes its toll after a while but it is one of the best drugs around ,,,not the best over all but the best at what it does and meant to do which is solidify a physiqe revealing its definition and hardening it
gh15 approved
Milos is a complex manYea where is Chick when you need him?
a man surviving on wit and reptilian ways in the a state where you f*ck them first before they f*ck you
Talking of f*cking people over, anyone seen Bob Chick lately?
Gino "Obama will save you" Gambino
ps....leave SONNY out of this.....
Milos has already mentioned recently on his website that you has started his comeback:
JUNE 1ST, 2009:
milos taking all tat shit to look lie that ? dont think so, i have guys in my gym with those cuts taht dont even take protein shakes, but they have the balls to train ,is not all drugs!!!!!!
Meltdown.
all that stuff? tren masteron and testosterone come all in one vial,,gh comes in one kit,,,eq comes in one vial im AMAZED with the phenomenon behind yoru stupid sentence ,,you also write its NOT the drugs with !!!! which in reality both you and i know ITS ONLY THE DRUGS! ! !
why is the need of fellas such as yourself mas\rcus cacon and getonny and many other professional and top amatuer that i left behind long time ago and that I HAVE WAY BETTER SO CALLED GENETICS THAN THEM,,why do you have the guts to say its not drugs WHEN I HAVE BETTER GENETIC THAN YOU AND BETTER REPSONSE AND IM TELLIN YOU IT IS DRUGS! AND ONLY DRUGS!
tellin me you have guys in gym looking like thgat with out taking anything?? are you out of your mind,,that physiqe is aged and is a result of abuse ABUSE of hormones not only simply gym rat use but YEARS UPON YEARS OF ABUSE ,,anyone who ever get to 220 -250 at 6-7% at 5'10 is a fella that been to hormones for very long time consistantly with them and doen it for many years not a year ,,
i wil never understand why there is the need to sell thoe kids balonie when they are also bodybuilders!!! they are not as lucky as you fellas to get all the good drugs and are not fellons or dont have misdeminors ,,they are nto dealers and dont think from poweder to podwer like you fellas BUT they are too bodybuilders AND YOU SHOULD NOT SIT HERE WITH YOUR BIG ASS MOUTH AND JACKED EGO AND SELL THEM CRAP ,,,they are not dumb so stop treating them like they are,,on same shit you take they too can become top amatuers and many of them if had the time and money and connection to legit hormone would become professional/top matuer
please stop with the ballonie friend
gh15 approved
all that stuff? tren masteron and testosterone come all in one vial,,gh comes in one kit,,,eq comes in one vial im AMAZED with the phenomenon behind yoru stupid sentence ,,you also write its NOT the drugs with !!!! which in reality both you and i know ITS ONLY THE DRUGS! ! !
why is the need of fellas such as yourself mas\rcus cacon and getonny and many other professional and top amatuer that i left behind long time ago and that I HAVE WAY BETTER SO CALLED GENETICS THAN THEM,,why do you have the guts to say its not drugs WHEN I HAVE BETTER GENETIC THAN YOU AND BETTER REPSONSE AND IM TELLIN YOU IT IS DRUGS! AND ONLY DRUGS!
tellin me you have guys in gym looking like thgat with out taking anything?? are you out of your mind,,that physiqe is aged and is a result of abuse ABUSE of hormones not only simply gym rat use but YEARS UPON YEARS OF ABUSE ,,anyone who ever get to 220 -250 at 6-7% at 5'10 is a fella that been to hormones for very long time consistantly with them and doen it for many years not a year ,,
i wil never understand why there is the need to sell thoe kids balonie when they are also bodybuilders!!! they are not as lucky as you fellas to get all the good drugs and are not fellons or dont have misdeminors ,,they are nto dealers and dont think from poweder to podwer like you fellas BUT they are too bodybuilders AND YOU SHOULD NOT SIT HERE WITH YOUR BIG ASS MOUTH AND JACKED EGO AND SELL THEM CRAP ,,,they are not dumb so stop treating them like they are,,on same shit you take they too can become top amatuers and many of them if had the time and money and connection to legit hormone would become professional/top matuer
please stop with the ballonie friend
gh15 approved
Meltdown.
Milos > gh15
Your mama is too old... :-* and I am always close to my former self - as I am not bodybuilding competitor as a "side effect" of my lifestyle...I live my lifestyle to be/look/feel...etc like I do 365 days a year...not like many others who look/feel/are almost obese year around - looking like they can drop dead any minute of a day if they just bent over to put their shoes on...and manage to get in shape once/year (and some years not as often...) - looking pretty damn good for a day or so...but in reality feeling like they are already in spiritual world...but somewhat disadvantaged - due to absence of their mind...brain...body...en ergy...LIFE...etc...
Oh well...maybe I should actually agree with you - so you could celebrate....???
NOT! ;D
i made jamaican food so famos in bodybuilding circles ,,they need to give me some of profits for that foodm,,but yes jamaican food is the absolut best food a bodybuilder can eat ,,it is simply good solid meal that taste good,, i have yet to find better food for bodybuilder than jamaican not even sushi since sushi gets you bloated,,,jamaican with the products i mention gets you solid and cut
gh15 approved
Why is it that when someone makes counter argument or disagrees with someone. Maybe even be outrage when someone is blatantly lying to us it's a meltdown? You really believe that Milos, without drugs, can look like how he does with no regard to his diet ("3 XL pizzas, 30 doughnuts/wk filled with apple sauce or cherry...or...omg!") and not even having to train because "FIRE IS BURNING ALL DAY LONG" due to being such an "intense thinker"? WTF? So the reason that 2 out of 3 Americans are fat is because they don't think as hard as Milos.
There are a lot of people out there that do respect and look up to Milos. They listen to him. He's achieved a lot in bodybuilding. He has real world street cred. They think that maybe he's on to something. He's discovered something. After all, didn't he invent the use of insulin? He must be a genius.
I do think he's a smart guy. But I don't like him propping himself up like a Dalai Lama. I don't like him talking to us like we are complete, naive, idiots.
You eat pizza and doughnuts all week long and then think about not getting fat.
What Milos is saying is not that he eats whatever in whatever quantity he pleases. It's about eating whatever he pleases within the set macros. Say he eats 400g of protein a day and after eating that protein he has a 300g carb allowance. If those carbs come from doughnuts, bread or whatever, doesn't matter. It's logical, same idea wavelength and me and others have talked about. He's not eating just pizza or doughnuts like he makes it seem.
The 'intense thinking' might be due to drugs too, if you know what I mean. I mean don't know but even Milos acknowledged that it might look like that when he posts his long rants.
Why is it that when someone makes counter argument or disagrees with someone. Maybe even be outrage when someone is blatantly lying to us it's a meltdown?First, the disagreeing isn't the meltdown, the 400 paragraph, nonsensical ranting about what drugs gh15 knows everyone is on is the meltdown.
First, the disagreeing isn't the meltdown, the 400 paragraph, nonsensical ranting about what drugs gh15 knows everyone is on is the meltdown.
Secondly, I have witnessed with my own eyes some of what Milos eats and it wasn't chicken breast and broccoli.
Third, nobody, including me, has any idea what Milos uses or does not use in his "supplement" stack.
Fourth, nice meltdown you had there, need a tissue?
I can answer this one. I took Milos to visit Sonny in prison hospital. This made Sonny very happy. He had just found out that he had inoperable cancer. This was the only time that Milos was in Oz while Sonny was inside.
Milos made every effort to visit him, we had to get special permission. This was late in November and he died just weeks later on 25th January.
RIP Sonny.
Hello Milos, I hope to have you in my pro show one day soon.
So Milos...................
.............what's your thoughts on gh15?
Just wonderin' ;D
Milos, your recommendation of ART for shoulder changed my life in a big way. if you ever need lunch, a kidney, whatever, drop me a line.
"Switznegger" could not afford the extra pair of underwear to replace the one he would soil in our presence.
I, however, will be there on J27.
Milos does your daughter speak Serbian?
At any given time of the year, Milos is basically 12 weeks out from being contest ready.
Is that meant to be a compliment? I mean hopefully that would be for the majority of bodybuilders
;D
Well, he did mean well...but I know what you are saying... ;)
Will that be a Return to BB with or without SYNTHOL.
Yes she does...
As the matter of fact - next week she is going to Serbia for 5 weeks...
thats because of constant use of trenbolone masteron testosterone and growth with insulin and t3,,those drugs year around especially if home brwed and you know your guy,,,those products in good enough doses injected on a daiuly basis will make any bodybuilder in shape on a constant basis ESPECIALY if eats right and he eats right thats why the deep deep cuts ,,if you dotn eat 100% on while using this products you will still have the cuts but not as deep ,,this has nothing absolutely nothing to do with genetics or genetic respond to hormones,,this is condition made by the drugs mentioned and perfect diet,,less then perfect diet will result in not as deep cuts but still 6-7% even with jamaican food diet all day long
gh15 approved
GH15, you say the deep cuts are because strict diet but Milos has mentioned many times now to his members on his forum that he eats WHATEVER he wants.
He says all you have to do is use the power of the mind.
He says if people THINK they are going to get fat when eating a pizza, then they will.
But if you tell yourself you are not going to get fat as you are eating the pizza, then you won't get fat.
Here i'll show you and tell us what you think.
When he says "as long as the fire is burning" and "using the power of the mind won't make you fat" does this translate to "HGH"?
and...
And WHAT keeps the FIRE burning?
Aaaaaaa??? Well - that would be NORMALLY, usually....quite daily...always...forever and everrrrrrr....LIFE!!!
First priority for life....is.....EEEEEEEEE EEENNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
FIRE IS BURNING ALL DAY LONG...if you pay attention you could smell the fire and feel the HEATH...
Resting metabolic rate + every single second of every single part of the body, every single day using ENERGY to exist...to blink, to breath...to oh - THINK (I see many people don't spend much calories on that nowadays...and MAYBE exactly THINKING as my MOST INTENSE ACTIVITY of the year (in last year or so...staying away from the gym and NOT lifting anything heavier than fork and the knife simultaneously (yes Antonio Bilateral isometric muscle contraction during EATING any meal in particular...wait the minute - eating pizza and donuts DOESN'T require fork or a knife... :-\ :-\ :-\ - oooops - what's my excuse now?.... ;) ;) ;) - THINKING...is = FIRE IS BURNING = think of every "energy foods you put in your mouth as flame - your body used in whatever energy demand you are doing...or THINK OF DOING...and see what happens?
And ask people who THINK they are going to get fat IF they get fat?
Some even say IF I EAT THAT - IT WILL BE STORED RIGHT HERE (pointing at their waist, back, glutes, love-handles...) and guess what - INDEED - "THAT" became the part of the body they pointed out ....as they were THINKING about it, and suggesting that "physiology" (body) gets order from "psychology" (the mind)...and even though they don't realize - their EXACT WAY OF THINKING commands those calories to be saved (not used or BURNED) but rather saved and stored at whatever place they are THINKING (or fearing about) possibly storing...
YES - it is LAW OF ATTRACTION that works here as well - possibly better than many other aspects of life...
Why do you think Dexter Jacson eats anything he wants as he knows and claims always that - he could eat anything he wants and never gets fat...etc...etc...
Examples are just too many to mention...
But fact is (at least to me) that majority of people IN FEAR NOT TO GET FAT and thinking about certain scenario (getting fat if eating certain foods that potentially could get them fat...as they know that carbs or sugars or fats...blah-blah-blah COULD BE STORED IF NOT NEEDED...) CREATING exact environment for their fear to materialize - not realizing THEY ARE THE ONES DOING IT....
and this is the best one...
Fourth, nice meltdown you had there, need a tissue?
What Milos is saying is not that he eats whatever in whatever quantity he pleases. It's about eating whatever he pleases within the set macros. Say he eats 400g of protein a day and after eating that protein he has a 300g carb allowance. If those carbs come from doughnuts, bread or whatever, doesn't matter. It's logical, same idea wavelength and me and others have talked about. He's not eating just pizza or doughnuts like he makes it seem.
The 'intense thinking' might be due to drugs too, if you know what I mean. I mean don't know but even Milos acknowledged that it might look like that when he posts his long rants.
i dont like to repeat myself,,
i mentioned here products used by bodybuildet to get to the condition mishko present in picture,,the diet can change from junk to more clean depending on few factors such as gh dose and activity during the day ,,most serious bodybuilders dont follow diet and eat whatever we want because we are on constant use of trenbolone masteron testosterone equi nandrolone gh insulin always change products for months upon monthss,,
when it comes to the alalytical aspect of condition of bodybuilder it has a lot to do with water held on physiqe,,most bodybuilder do nto have lots of fat what they have is water that is MISTAKEN for fat ,, the way to minimize this water is the following products i mentioned above such as trenboloen mastern eq test with shorter easter ,,,thats first and formost then comes duretic when the water is at minimum you add duretic so it takes the little water reminaing out ,,,,
its all a play of water and sodium ,,if you eat what you want like mishkoi claims you ABSOLUTELY have to be on the drugs trenbolone masteron and testosterone the gh is the reason he can eat absolutely what he feels like ,,,on aas alone you wil be able to eat whatever if on the prodiucts i mentioned but it wil have to be within some balance ,,,when you add gh to the equation you can eat absolutely anything you want with no regards to anything but high protien that is always a must
add insulin at the right time and you wil be able to maintain 240-250 on regular basis
also to make things clear here you can cut and get condition on test enentat and nandrolone decanoate but then diet need to be a lot more within balance and not all over the place,,when bodybuilder is expericne he already know his body well enough to play with junk and non junk food along the day ,,its mainly done from years of experience and higher lean muscle mass on the physiqe that utilize food more effectivly,,
gh15 approved
how recent of pictures are these? milos looks amazing.
If that is the case, then OK. But he claimed not even to have trained. And whether he puts fat on his body and prevents catabolism has nothing to do with his "will."
He's a life time drug user and over forty. He's not fooling anybody. Well, maybe Chaos.
"Quote from: Milos Sarcev on June 01, 2009, 09:01:05 PM
Before, my mind would slip and I would often catch myself thinking - well, I am not training and that means I will loose muscle size...and guess what - I would loose it...And than I realized - like with everything else - psychology commands physiology - and my mind started commanding my body...so - I look like I command myself to look like, Feel like - I want to feel like...etc...etc... Wink"
Psychology commands physiology, eh? "I look like I command myself to look like."
Why didn't you just "think" or "command" your arms to grow instead of using synthol?
Milos, a lot of people out there look up to you. They trust you and believe what you tell them. Why do you treat people this way? Deceive the naive and trusting? What kind of person are you? Act like you're some kind guru who has reached a higher level of consciousness and existence?
You "feel like -- I want to feel"? How would you want to feel like if I start snipping off your toes and fingers one at a time? Then start firing nails into your head with my Craftman nail gun? How would you want to feel if I lock you in one of those prisons in North Korea where it's so small and cramped that you can even stand up and you have to just squat there looking at your shit hole in the ground as you are fed a table spoon of rice and a rotting fish head?
You look like how you eat, how you train and the drugs that you take. Stop lying to people. Stop acting like you're on a "whole other level?" You're not. You put your pants on one leg at a time. You take a stinky dump every morning. You get pissed and hurt if someone makes a cruel remark about your daughter. You've jacked off to porn. You fart, burp and scratch your ass like everybody else. You may be a lot smarter than many of us but you're not some self-actualized Obi Wan Kenobi. In the end, you're just like the rest of us. You're aging, will grow weaker and eventually whither away an die.
Stop talking to us like we're stupid.
Attention Psychiatrists - look no further for MORON OF THE CENTURY - get necessary info about this "ding-dong" from Mr. Ron Avidan - and locate this dangerous lunatic...
Its amazing that Milos has such low bodyfat and such low water retention without getting ready for a show... I mean his abs are sliced and diced... most bodybuilders are chasing size when not getting ready for a show...
the moment you can say you placed better than me on stage then talk ,
Its amazing that Milos has such low bodyfat and such low water retention without getting ready for a show... I mean his abs are sliced and diced... most bodybuilders are chasing size when not getting ready for a show...
I don't understand these allegations of Milos getting high or using cocaine or all this nonsense... he seems like a strict sort of guy and he has a wife so there is no need for this to get women etc...
the moment you can say you placed better than me on stage then talk ,,till then shut your pie hole ,,you are one of the worst liars in history of bodybuildign ,,disgrace to bodybuilding and bodybuilders aroudn the world ,,,you got kicked out ifbb and never be back even if allowed you wont place,,,and i support in your compete and utter dismisal for life,,,any normal ifbb representpr knows you are a risk ,,,you have fellonies on you and misdiminors and alot other crimes that didnt get cought ,,you sit and lie lie lie and then lie more to those poor kids that only want to improve ther body and become bodybuilders,,
sometimes sit in the dark at night when you are nto high on something lay back and think about yourself when you were 16 think about how you woudl react to yoru NONE SENSE MILOS SACREV ,,you were young too one time ,,you are shame ,,,id prefer sitting in jail than lieing lik ethat to thise guys ,,,especially on here!!!! this guys know bodybuilding and will hate you for life for what you do to them ,,,they may kiss ass now but after some time when they beocme the bodybuilder they wanna be they will know who lied and who was truthful
shame on you
gh15 approved
Just think about it. Think very intensely. Think about fat burning and it will burn.one time on mushrooms i did this and i am pretty sure it actually worked.
Abruptly stopping Prozac is not such a good idea after all...?
What is you problem, my man?
Can't get laid even if you pay for it?
Mama doesn't love you anymore...?
Call gh15 - he'll tell you what to do...Screw Prozac - tren/masterone/test/gh/t3/insulin combo is where it's at... ;)
And don't forget Jamaican banana...
...hmmmm?
banana?...or was it....aaaaa....hot dog?
Hey G, could you clarify?
one time on mushrooms i did this and i am pretty sure it actually worked.
all that stuff? tren masteron and testosterone come all in one vial,,gh comes in one kit,,,eq comes in one vial im AMAZED with the phenomenon behind yoru stupid sentence ,,you also write its NOT the drugs with !!!! which in reality both you and i know ITS ONLY THE DRUGS! ! !
why is the need of fellas such as yourself mas\rcus cacon and getonny and many other professional and top amatuer that i left behind long time ago and that I HAVE WAY BETTER SO CALLED GENETICS THAN THEM,,why do you have the guts to say its not drugs WHEN I HAVE BETTER GENETIC THAN YOU AND BETTER REPSONSE AND IM TELLIN YOU IT IS DRUGS! AND ONLY DRUGS!
tellin me you have guys in gym looking like thgat with out taking anything?? are you out of your mind,,that physiqe is aged and is a result of abuse ABUSE of hormones not only simply gym rat use but YEARS UPON YEARS OF ABUSE ,,anyone who ever get to 220 -250 at 6-7% at 5'10 is a fella that been to hormones for very long time consistantly with them and doen it for many years not a year ,,
i wil never understand why there is the need to sell thoe kids balonie when they are also bodybuilders!!! they are not as lucky as you fellas to get all the good drugs and are not fellons or dont have misdeminors ,,they are nto dealers and dont think from poweder to podwer like you fellas BUT they are too bodybuilders AND YOU SHOULD NOT SIT HERE WITH YOUR BIG ASS MOUTH AND JACKED EGO AND SELL THEM CRAP ,,,they are not dumb so stop treating them like they are,,on same shit you take they too can become top amatuers and many of them if had the time and money and connection to legit hormone would become professional/top matuer
please stop with the ballonie friend
gh15 approved
Oh boy... ::)
Stupid is what stupid does...and who knows that better than gh15 moron...?
ASSUMING is for ass...les that live by misery loves company rule...
Unfortunately, there are some idiots out there who will actually listen to your senseless/suicidal advice....
Oh well...
Attention Psychiatrists - look no further for MORON OF THE CENTURY - get necessary info about this "ding-dong" from Mr. Ron Avidan - and locate this dangerous lunatic...
you are so funny mr gh15,mr ifbb professional that has been so good,and won so much,you know everything and everybody, it seems that,maybe yoy know me for so long that you know what i takr,what i eat or how i live.
you are right in some things, yes i have a good genetic, yes i take gear, less than lots of people on board with 20kgs less than me for sure.
besides you i have a life out of bodybuiding and live like a normal human being great part of te year,believe it or not, and i train my ass the whole year if i take or if i dont take gear, you speak for yourself dont do it for every body cause you dont live with me , if u do all those things you do is your problem not mine, if you had to do all that drugs to be such a great champ( if you have ever been,is there a name behind gh15) its your problem,maybe you were not so good as you say if you need all that shit.
every body on this boards knows whats gong on, but maybe is not all like you say,maybe another people see bodybulding a diferent way like you do, maybe i wont compete in the olympia,maybe i will neve do better than what i have done up to know, but knowing that what i made i made with half a quarter of the drugs you say makes me feel happy.
and talking about milos and all the shit people talk about him his training methods....just go there to kolloseum and share a good workout with him is that easy.
and you know what i dont like to speak to someone who hides behind "gh15" or whatever, my name my adress and my pic is available anf you know who you are talking to you.be a man and do the same,or no wait, you cant, you sell drugs,you speak to loud,you are a legend in getbig boards!!! uf thats a great life!!!!!!!!!
i allready did!!!!!!!!!! but no problem
122 kg. 22 years lifting and living.
test 1000mg
deca 500 mg
dbol 5mg,5xday
gh 3iu x day
femara 1eod
i dont care if people respect me here or not,with my age i am over a lot of things that go on ,in this board.
i allready did!!!!!!!!!! but no problemYour attitude surprises me always. :o 8)
122 kg. 22 years lifting and living.
test 1000mg
deca 500 mg
dbol 5mg,5xday
gh 3iu x day
femara 1eod
i dont care if people respect me here or not,with my age i am over a lot of things that go on ,in this board.
Your attitude surprises me always. :o 8)
Wow gh15 seems to hate Milos just as much as Nasser does
wait a sec
are you thinking what i'm thinking........
.....that's right! Futarama's on!
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I don't know if he hates Milos as such. He hates what he's doing. Milos is talking like he has some kind of super power.
I think Milos is very intelligent. I like his training methods. I just wished I owned a gym so I could train like that and not wait for the ass clown text messaging between his set and tying up equipment. I think Milos is second to none in his knowledge about nutrition especially as it pertains to bodybuilders and athletes. But he's lying to us. He doesn't will his calories to do what he wants. His feelings are to a large part determined by his circumstances. He doesn't lose muscle because he thinks he'll lose muscle anymore than he will gain muscle because he thinks he will gain muscle. He still needs to train and he still needs AAS and HGH. He's over forty and his own production was shut down most of his competitive career so I doubt his natural production, what's left of it, is enough to maintain his condition. But so what? I don't care what he takes. Just don't go off talking like you have super powers. Like some kind of spiritual guru who channels his chi to do his magic.
He may have found the optimal training routine. And the optimal diet. But he still needs the needles and pills. Remember Mike Mentzer? One of my heroes growing up. He felt he found the optimal training system and lambasted those that used AAS. As long as your test production was normal, nutritional needs met, he assured you his training system would work for you. You didn't need AAS. But, when he was in his early forties and wanted to get back in top shape as a testament to the effectiveness of his training system one of his colleges at the time that worked closely with him commented that there he was, in the Gold's gym parking lot, getting his gear from the local dealer. Getting his juice just like everybody else.
things in bodybuilding are easy, people like gh15 make them look a lot more complicatedYeah, Paco also loves to make everything simple in bbing.
things in bodybuilding are easy, people like gh15 make them look a lot more complicated
Thanks Marcos. That's all we want here. Just straight talk. This board can be cruel and remorseless. Poseurs and phonies are weeded out and crucified. None of us here (well, most of us) have no illusions and think that we'd be anywhere near your level if we took what you took. I'm sure that what you posted varies throughout the year and maybe it might be a bit understated but at least you're not claiming that you have some break through training routine, super diet, or super powers of sheer force of will. You're not trying to pass yourself off as something you're not. You're not lying to us and talking to us like we're clueless retards.
** closes eyes and tries to "will" Milos to come clean "
In a February 2000 e-mail exchange with Arnold, Sarcev expressed interest in designer supplements and diuretics for an imminent competition.
"Let me know where to send money, gold or kidneys," Sarcev replied after Arnold quoted him a price of 100 dollars a gram for "miracle stuff" called Norbolethone.
"I can over night it." Sarcev offered himself as "a good guinea pig" because he had "tried everything" and added he worked "with many other monkeys (that would like to become gorillas)."
If only general considerations for hormones are viewed - basic endocrinology, classes of hormone molecules, classifications of hormonal communication systems, biosynthesis of peptide and protein hormones, general concept of a hormone receptor, cellular organization, hormone-receptor interactions, regulation of HR's (hormone receptors), intracellular receptor specifics and membrane receptor characteristics...mechan ism of hormonal action - with entry of particular hormone into target cells, receptor mediated signaling, steroid hormone regulation of gene transcription...plasma transport (of steroid and THYROID -in your case-hormones...and I could go on and on...from anatomical, physiological, morphological relationship to chemistry, biochemistry and clinical aspects ALL NEEDED to be considered when hormone of choice would be implemented for QUESTIONABLE (to say nicely) reasons...
Guys like Chacon are the monkeys. Well, he's already a gorilla but still... :D
Doing giant sets is all fine and good, but let's not kid ourselves, it's the drugs that make it all work. If Milos didn't give any advice on drugs I doubt he'd have all those athletes searching him out to show them how to do giant sets or how to eat doughnuts and large pizzas. :D
Marcos, I agree that it's not that complicated but Milos does make it seem so. More than gh15. See here:
Oh my, my head hurts. :D
Marcos, did you consider all these things when you devised your stack? :D
i have guys in my gym that not even take protein shakes and have the guts to train giants sets of 10 exercicies ,for 4 rotations, with no need of drugs, only big balls,
btw you can eat pizza for sure if you allways train giant sets ,not for competition thought.
And your point is?
Any of those guys challenging you in the size and cuts department? Do you think they will, without drugs?
nice stack.
x3 there you go. :Dyou see thats whi i dont post more here.what for, nobody believes.
there are no super routines,super diets or super cycles,is all up to busting your ass in the gym for years and years and this is something that a lot of people dont undestand YEARS AND YEARS, dosent men 2 or 3, ive seen a lot of guys who where going to be megastars shined once and then dissapeard, i am here after 22 years.i think what ever we do diet,training, gear.. evrythng works if u put the intensity and the time in to make it work.
btw milos giants sets are great i love traning that way, the feelins and the pumps are incredible,its so demanding!!! and thats what i like about our sport TRAINING one or other way, but where i enjoy is in the gym. i hate myself every time i have to pin and see that image in the mirror,but is what i have to do, right now, not for ever thats for sure.but i will train for ever ,you can bet.
you see thats whi i dont post more here.what for, nobody believes.
i was just kidding Marcos.....
Nice going, Meso >:(
;D
thats not the main point. i dont have competitive bodybuilder in my gym, but i have those guys training with me and challenging me every day at training,thas whats all about.they are not going for my size or cuts they just love to train!!!!!!!!!joy of traning you remenbe when you did that in your beginings?i still enjoy after 22 years!!! thats the point.
Well I love to train too. I've trained for about 18 years and still look forward to every session. Don't need drugs to do it either.
But that doesn't have much to do with what competitive bodybuilding is. People get pissed at what gh15 says but why? At your level drugs are the thing that makes it all possible. Don't do GH for a year and see if you can get by just as well with just the joy of training. Any sensible guy will not prep at all if he doesn't have the drugs he needs to look his best. I remember when Milos said he ALWAYS uses insulin when he's in hard training mode. That's the way most pros are, they will not even set foot in the gym unless they have drugs in them. Not much joy of training there. :-\
BTW, people get mad when gh15 says Milos needs drugs to look the way he does but even Milos himself admits here that he wont be doing any Levrone type transformation without drugs.
LOL, lots of melting down in this thread over what another guy does or does not do.Like it matters who takes what at what dosage...
there are no super routines,super diets or super cycles,is all up to busting your ass in the gym for years and years and this is something that a lot of people dont undestand YEARS AND YEARS, dosent men 2 or 3, ive seen a lot of guys who where going to be megastars shined once and then dissapeard, i am here after 22 years.YOUR HONESTY AND CANDOR IS WELL APPRECIATED BIG MAN.PROPS.GOOD BUILD TOO VERY UNDERRATED.
i think what ever we do diet,training, gear.. evrythng works if u put the intensity and the time in to make it work.
btw milos giants sets are great i love traning that way, the feelins and the pumps are incredible,its so demanding!!! and thats what i like about our sport TRAINING one or other way, but where i enjoy is in the gym. i hate myself every time i have to pin and see that image in the mirror,but is what i have to do, right now, not for ever thats for sure.but i will train for ever ,you can bet.
you are so funny mr gh15,mr ifbb professional that has been so good,and won so much,you know everything and everybody, it seems that,maybe yoy know me for so long that you know what i takr,what i eat or how i live.
you are right in some things, yes i have a good genetic, yes i take gear, less than lots of people on board with 20kgs less than me for sure.
besides you i have a life out of bodybuiding and live like a normal human being great part of te year,believe it or not, and i train my ass the whole year if i take or if i dont take gear, you speak for yourself dont do it for every body cause you dont live with me , if u do all those things you do is your problem not mine, if you had to do all that drugs to be such a great champ( if you have ever been,is there a name behind gh15) its your problem,maybe you were not so good as you say if you need all that shit.
every body on this boards knows whats gong on, but maybe is not all like you say,maybe another people see bodybulding a diferent way like you do, maybe i wont compete in the olympia,maybe i will neve do better than what i have done up to know, but knowing that what i made i made with half a quarter of the drugs you say makes me feel happy.
and talking about milos and all the shit people talk about him his training methods....just go there to kolloseum and share a good workout with him is that easy.
and you know what i dont like to speak to someone who hides behind "gh15" or whatever, my name my adress and my pic is available anf you know who you are talking to you.be a man and do the same,or no wait, you cant, you sell drugs,you speak to loud,you are a legend in getbig boards!!! uf thats a great life!!!!!!!!!
nice stack.
things in bodybuilding are easy, people like gh15 make them look a lot more complicated
there are no super routines,super diets or super cycles,is all up to busting your ass in the gym for years and years and this is something that a lot of people dont undestand YEARS AND YEARS, dosent men 2 or 3, ive seen a lot of guys who where going to be megastars shined once and then dissapeard, i am here after 22 years.
i think what ever we do diet,training, gear.. evrythng works if u put the intensity and the time in to make it work.
btw milos giants sets are great i love traning that way, the feelins and the pumps are incredible,its so demanding!!! and thats what i like about our sport TRAINING one or other way, but where i enjoy is in the gym. i hate myself every time i have to pin and see that image in the mirror,but is what i have to do, right now, not for ever thats for sure.but i will train for ever ,you can bet.
Milos the mad witch doctor :D
This e-mail exchange between Milos and Patrick Arnold really highlights the attitude of bodybuilders, the constant search for the next wonder drug.
Guys like Chacon are the monkeys. Well, he's already a gorilla but still... :D
Doing giant sets is all fine and good, but let's not kid ourselves, it's the drugs that make it all work. If Milos didn't give any advice on drugs I doubt he'd have all those athletes searching him out to show them how to do giant sets or how to eat doughnuts and large pizzas. :D
Marcos, I agree that it's not that complicated but Milos does make it seem so. More than gh15. See here:
Oh my, my head hurts. :D
Marcos, did you consider all these things when you devised your stack? :D
i have guys in my gym that not even take protein shakes and have the guts to train giants sets of 10 exercicies ,for 4 rotations, with no need of drugs, only big balls,
btw you can eat pizza for sure if you allways train giant sets ,not for competition thought.
thats his written stack to get you off his back what he dont tell you is what he did along the years ,,in addition his condition is not even remotely close to milos when milos dont even compete ,,the abuse of drugs on milos is on a diff level ,,but even this fella is living from hormone to hormone ,,never off,,0ff = 3 weeks of depression and then hoopla back on but guess what ,,at his age you dont let yourself off,,
another liar from a diff kind ,,the monkey kind
gh15 approved
you see thats whi i dont post more here.what for, nobody believes.
At any given time - I was usually 4 weeks contest ready...and (as promoters could confirm...well - maybe? 8)) I entered numerous shows on two weeks notice...
At this time - my BF is where it should be - 4-5%...but my weight is at 220 lbs - which is little on a light side - considering 4 weeks preparation time...but I am 100% convinced that I could/should/would IF given the opportunity (card back...and aaaaaaaa - REASON) be able to increase my weight to 240-stage ready in ONE MONTH...
its people like you who make bodybuilding failure and NEVER TO BE ON ANY RESPECTABLE LEVEL,, you are part of the problem and its inside you deep inside you ,,you are what i call a half liar,,,you will throw in some compounds that you used in some cycle and make people think thats it ,,,training has nothing to do with it! bodybuilding is ALL DRUGS and to think you even have the courage to talk to me! look at pictures WHAT ARE YOU A FUCKIN INFANTILE??? DONT YOU SEE KEVIN AT 160 LB OFF GEAR? DONT YOU SEE THOMAS PRINCE WITH KIDNY FAILURE WALK AROUND LIEK SKLETON BONEY,,DONT YOU SEE WHEN DORIAN IS OFF HE WALK AROUND 190?? DONT YOU SEE JASON IS A SPONGE OF OIL? ARE YOU BLIND DOTN YOU SEE MR MOOSTUF IN VIENNA??
FUCKNI INFANTILE GET OUT OF MY FACE,,
DISMISSED 2ND TIME
you really are a poor man!!! living in your own world of missery!!
yes i never stop taking drugs i learnt that from you!!! i almost train ,eat pizza every day and read your post every day to learn about bodybuilding.
you are my hero!!
btw gh15,the only kid here is you, sow your face,man!!!!! and maybe you will earn respect.
guys like you are a shame for our spor,not me.
is really not worth to kkep talking to ........ho am i talking to? ups i dont know!!!! get big ghost!!!
dude relax, it's getting ridiculous.
nice stack.
please kill yourself.
Nothing personal Marcus, but femara for women with early stage breast cancer. Why are you taking it for????
Getting back to the subject. GH15 is an idiot and scam artist however he is somewhat correct on his statement that Marcus's stack he published isn't correct
Fact is that in order to complete on the IFBB professional level, it requires multitude of different anabolic steroids as well as growth hormone, insulin, thyroid compounds, clen, and other compounds. There's a multitude of items that need to be taken from muscle building, to recovery, to getting ripped and shredded, to getting hard and dense, to cutting water from the skin, etc.
It will only get worse over time.
Marcus, you seem like a good guy but the stack you put out is obviously not the real one. Honestly, I wouldn't even publish stuff like this over the internet because you won't these Getbig Trolls thinking they can take this and look like you. It really doesn't matter what you take as long as you're doing what you love to do
You calling anyone an idiot, negro you are the biggest idiot of them all ::)another idiot behind a nickname
Marcos that stack you posted smells of bullshit, and spare us the bleeding heart ''i trained my balls off for 22 years'' as if others dont train hard or even harder, yeah 25mg of dianabol, what a moron ::)
LOL, lots of melting down in this thread over what another guy does or does not do.
hahaha is strating to be funny!!!!!! ;D
Getting back to the subject. GH15 is an idiot and scam artist however he is somewhat correct on his statement that Marcus's stack he published isn't correct
Fact is that in order to complete on the IFBB professional level, it requires multitude of different anabolic steroids as well as growth hormone, insulin, thyroid compounds, clen, and other compounds. There's a multitude of items that need to be taken from muscle building, to recovery, to getting ripped and shredded, to getting hard and dense, to cutting water from the skin, etc.
It will only get worse over time.
Marcus, you seem like a good guy but the stack you put out is obviously not the real one. Honestly, I wouldn't even publish stuff like this over the internet because you won't these Getbig Trolls thinking they can take this and look like you. It really doesn't matter what you take as long as you're doing what you love to do
gh15, Milos, Pellius, Marcos, thanx for the entertain and congratulations you've all melted down today to extremely rediculous proportions.
DIMISSED FOR THE SIXTH AND FINAL TIME
GH15 APPROVED
Brah, he's off season.
another idiot behind a nickname
have a good day
Well, it certainly isn't on-season.
GUYS THAT DONT TAKE PROTIEN SHAKE EH? BUT TAKE SOEM TURINABOL TABLET ON THE SIDE FOR SOME PUMP AND THICKNESS AND ANOTHER 5 LB OF MUSCLE ,,
YOU LIVE FROM DRUG TO DRUG ,,YOU ARE DISMISSED FOR THE 5TH TIME
YOU DONT POST HERE MORE BECAUSE YOU ARE BUSY TO POST IN PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET VET STATUS OR GET CONNECTION SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR ORODER FROM MY PEOPLE OR SO I CAN TALK TO YOU WHEN YOU EMAIL ME ,,THATS WHY YOU DONT POST HERE
DIMISSED FOR THE SIXTH AND FINAL TIME
GH15 APPROVED
please kill yourself.
AND THIS WOULD BE THE 5TH TIME....LOLGOOD JOB VIN,WE NEEDED A SCOREKEEPER OR DISSMISSED KEEPER LOL...
gh15 is telling the truth about a lot of things... That stack that Chacon mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg...
GOOD JOB VIN,WE NEEDED A SCOREKEEPER OR DISSMISSED KEEPER LOL...
Where is the King of the Serbs???Gh15 has your number boy.
In Milo's defense, he does have a job.
Doing what he says he is a Million Dollar Mr Big.Why the Fuck would a GURU need to work???
Hi CalvinH ::)
You Mishco always refer to how many IFBB Pro shows you have done well the REAL Question is HOW MANY FUCKING IFBB PRO SHOWS HAVE YOU WON????
gh15 is telling the truth about a lot of things... That stack that Chacon mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg...In regards to Marcus? How do you know ? do you inject it for him :-\
Yah, DK. Don't spoil the fun. That's why this board is so interesting. I've gone through 2 bags of popcorn already.
Nothing personal Marcus, but femara for women with early stage breast cancer. Why are you taking it for????
Vince "G"yno asking the question of the month.
fucking awesome thread... only one thing is missing.... LEE!!!
fucking awesome thread... only one thing is missing.... LEE!!!
lee cant particiapte since he is injecting now his 200mg nandrolone decanoate ,,its his once a week protocol of injecting 1cc into his right but cheek so he can maintain his 6% 220lb 5'3 physiqe!GH15, your furstration toward your life makes you a psycho.
GH15, your furstration toward your life makes you a psycho.
Its time to change your point of view.
i suggest you look into it my firend,,,use your asian brain and work yourself into the real truth behind your beloved activity
fucking awesome thread... only one thing is missing.... LEE!!!
only thing that make me frastrated so called,, is the lies morons such as paco and milos tell fellas like you and the years you spend with them think they do a while in reality they do bcdefg,,see the problem is that if you were wize enough youd know how to step in their face and let you into the world ,,especially paco who if he is indeed a friend of you can show you the world and i promise you THE WORLD IS AS BLACK AS IT CAN BE ,,no shades of pink,,,black and full of addiction and pain and lots of rest due to this pain ,,and lots of aging ,,pre mature aging,,,ask any one of bodybuilders you know and if they are truthful they will tell you the worst part os the aging ,,the worst part is when you feel your kidnys are burning but only thin you can do is drink more water since you need to take you tren dosage every day at 200mg....I have met tons of liers in my life in any fields and i have got used to it really.
i suggest you look into it my firend,,,use your asian brain and work yourself into the real truth behind your beloved activity
gh15 approved
I have met tons of liers in my life in any fields and i have got used to it really.
Since, I met tons, finaly i obtained the ability to distinguish who is lier and not.
And I bet you that i lived longer denser life than you. You get angry with them, cus you have not got accostomed to them(You havent seen that much lier in the out field of bbing).As you said, Most of bbers are liers. But if you make really great friend of them, they will reveal any truth to you even like their balls shrink and they are impotents because of adrogenic hormones.
You are still young. Get out of bbing a bit and take a walk around another fields too.
Then now the most important question,what did Paco have for lunch?
all the gear that gh15 sent to him for free he is such a great guy ;D
hey, don't tell everyone he sends it for free to his friends. :o :o :oseriously, We were discussing about our protein intake.
Paco had 8000g protein for lunch.
seriously, We were discussing about our protein intake.
And surprisingly, i eat more protein than him! Damn! :o
all the gear that gh15 sent to him for free he is such a great guy ;D
well, i still can't believe how you could eat so much and still stay so lean.You already know, i eat ridiculous small amount of carbs.
I hope you can tell me the secret some day. ;D ;D
only thing that make me frastrated so called,, is the lies morons such as paco and milos tell fellas like you and the years you spend with them think they do a while in reality they do bcdefg,,see the problem is that if you were wize enough youd know how to step in their face and let you into the world ,,especially paco who if he is indeed a friend of you can show you the world and i promise you THE WORLD IS AS BLACK AS IT CAN BE ,,no shades of pink,,,black and full of addiction and pain and lots of rest due to this pain ,,and lots of aging ,,pre mature aging,,,ask any one of bodybuilders you know and if they are truthful they will tell you the worst part os the aging ,,the worst part is when you feel your kidnys are burning but only thin you can do is drink more water since you need to take you tren dosage every day at 200mg....
i suggest you look into it my firend,,,use your asian brain and work yourself into the real truth behind your beloved activity
gh15 approved
everybody here who is going to believe you and know the truth has already accepted you as legit. the rest wont ever be persuaded unless they get the knowledge first hand.Have you ever seen the gear with your own eyes? ::)
enjoy, thanks for helpin us all
only thing that make me frastrated so called,, is the lies morons such as paco and milos tell fellas like you and the years you spend with them think they do a while in reality they do bcdefg,,see the problem is that if you were wize enough youd know how to step in their face and let you into the world ,,especially paco who if he is indeed a friend of you can show you the world and i promise you THE WORLD IS AS BLACK AS IT CAN BE ,,no shades of pink,,,black and full of addiction and pain and lots of rest due to this pain ,,and lots of aging ,,pre mature aging,,,ask any one of bodybuilders you know and if they are truthful they will tell you the worst part os the aging ,,the worst part is when you feel your kidnys are burning but only thin you can do is drink more water since you need to take you tren dosage every day at 200mg....What you've just described there is a bleak pathetic existence...destroying your kidneys, watching yourself decompose, all for the shallow vain desire to have "big muscles." Let's not forget clogged arteries and heart attacks which also go hand in hand with androgen abuse. Glad I'm not taking that ride.
i suggest you look into it my firend,,,use your asian brain and work yourself into the real truth behind your beloved activity
gh15 approved
Have you ever seen the gear with your own eyes? ::)kyomu neither of us will ever agree on this subject. so why argue. pointless. did you not see that video? what do you think? personally this is the best dancing ive ever seen. better jackoff material than pretty much 100% of porn ive seen too.
What you've just described there is a bleak pathetic existence...destroying your kidneys, watching yourself decompose, all for the shallow vain desire to have "big muscles." Let's not forget clogged arteries and heart attacks which also go hand in hand with androgen abuse. Glad I'm not taking that ride.
I am pretty sure I could kick spiderman's assstavios is a man with muscles....
seriously, We were discussing about our protein intake.::) :)
And surprisingly, i eat more protein than him! Damn! :o
::) :)Why should I?
OK, tell the whole story.
Why should I?::)
What will you give me instead? ???
Why He eats less protein?
Cus he has monstrous genetic UNLIKE YOU ;)
::)
Well, since I know you on this board there were 3 chances when we start to communicate:
1. You just write something shit toward me.
2. I just write something to anyone in any thread...just something...nothing negative, nothing positive...and then you start talking shit toward me.
3. I write something to you...negative, positive...you doesn't care and start talking shit toward me...
Well you're getting more and more ridiculous...
Why?
:-\
Well this Fella Gh15 is telling it like it is when your kidneys are kicking you in the back and all dried out Don't ask the doctor "Why the Fuck am I sick"unlike the Serb King who has had so many of his athletes for a better word FUCK UP on his level of Drug Abuse.You to will Dry the Fuck up Milos and when you do only then will people know your Truth.Fucking Lier.so why do you lie about it in your Q&A threads?
Did I say something bad about you? When?
Oh.....I said that you have amateur physic? Mmmmmmmm, But thats just a reality no?
100% of Getbigers and bbing fan are agreed with me for sure?
What? the truth heats?? :'(
Well accept it, IF you have a decent pro physic, the sponsor will call you like Muscletech did it to Paco.
Hope this help.
Oh.....I said that you have amateur physic? Mmmmmmmm, But thats just a reality no?
100% of Getbigers and bbing fan are agreed with me for sure?
Did I say something bad about you? When?You know I'm a pretty good driver and mostly drive really fast.
Oh.....I said that you have amateur physic? Mmmmmmmm, But thats just a reality no?
100% of Getbigers and bbing fan are agreed with me for sure?
What? the truth heats?? :'(
Well accept it, IF you have a decent pro physic, the sponsor will call you like Muscletech did it to Paco.
Hope this help.
You certainly talk SHIT about me saying that i dont have a competitor physic.
Ask everybody about it. MR.JUICE HEAD.
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come on Chem, i'm sure you are just like me. GH15 tells me i've been on prohormones since 1983. who cares if they weren't developed till the late 90's. we are ahead of our time.I know. It's just that the guy is a walking contradiction...one minute he's saying the only way to look good is to take massive dosages of all this stuff..the next minute he's saying that if you take his advice you will age, your kidneys will fail etc..
people on here are asking who would win a fight between Milos and GH15. that's like Mike Tyson vs. spiderman. a real man vs. a work of fiction.
I know. It's just that the guy is a walking contradiction...one minute he's saying the only way to look good is to take massive dosages of all this stuff..the next minute he's saying that if you take his advice you will age, your kidneys will fail etc..
Contradiction? Where? He is talking about what it takes to compete at the pro level. If that leads to premature aging, where's the contradiction? Do you disagree with his assertion that many pros are in a dark place, with dangerous levels of bb drugs and rec drug addiction and pain, both physical and mental? Surely you must agree with that. Marcos said he hates his reflection in the mirror when he thinks about what he has to do.Hey Van,
Contradiction? Where? He is talking about what it takes to compete at the pro level. If that leads to premature aging, where's the contradiction? Do you disagree with his assertion that many pros are in a dark place, with dangerous levels of bb drugs and rec drug addiction and pain, both physical and mental? Surely you must agree with that. Marcos said he hates his reflection in the mirror when he thinks about what he has to do.
Hey Van,
Do you think rec drug addiction is common in elite bodybuilding? I would think most bodybuilders are neurotic about their pursuit. What sort of drugs and does that affect performance? Why would they get involved in that?
Why would they be in pain? What sort of pain? Why mental pain (is that bodybuilding related if so what aspect)?
My problem is that I think you were one of the best. If standards were different and they didn't go the mass monster route you could have won the O. I've seen and heard your seminars and you are one of the most knowledgeable guys out there. But you are talking nonsense. You're lying to us. And many people will believe you because of who you are.
What exactly do you think I lie about?
And what would be my purpose?
I am ALWAYS willing to explain everything and anything that I recommend - but my lack of time doesn't allow me to do that individually to every single person that takes something that I said - out of context...
That is why I organize FREE seminars...and ONE is actually coming up - Jun 27th...
PLEASE - attend it and ask me ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING YOU WANT...Tape it and youtube-it for others to see...
If I lie about anything - ....??? - you decide...
Punish me any which way you want...Anything - no problem...(made me read Nasser's book...or make me watch one of his super exciting videos ...or both!!!!)
I expect at 100 getbiggers to show up and hash out their differences with Milos.Make sure they sign up on The Positive Board so we can keep track of who shows and who doesn't. :)
you are so funny mr gh15,mr ifbb professional that has been so good,and won so much,you know everything and everybody, it seems that,maybe yoy know me for so long that you know what i take,what i eat or how i live.
,believe it or not, and i train my ass the whole year if i take or if i dont take gear, you speak for yourself dont do it for every body cause you dont live with me , if u do all those things you do is your problem not mine, if you had to do all that drugs to be such a great champ( if you have ever been,is there a name behind gh15) its your problem,maybe you were not so good as you say if you need all that shit.
...but knowing that what i made i made with half a quarter of the drugs you say makes me feel happy.
and talking about milos and all the shit people talk about him his training methods....just go there to kolloseum and share a good workout with him is that easy.
and you know what i dont like to speak to someone who hides behind "gh15" or whatever, my name my adress and my pic is available anf you know who you are talking to you.be a man and do the same,or no wait, you cant, you sell drugs,you speak to loud,you are a legend in getbig boards!!! uf thats a great life!!!!!!!!!
maybe method101 can ask Milos how and where to meet a nice lady
Make sure they sign up on The Positive Board so we can keep track of who shows and who doesn't. :)
Can you post direct link...? 8):)
Milos, why do you even bother posting on Getbig?err... bodybuilders whom attempt to control everything within themselves (emotions, nutrition, physical state, hormones)
Are you really that bored?
Are you that desperate for attention?
Seriously Milos, you remind me of Bob Chick. He also spends day and night on these boards.
Jesus Christ, get a life!
Punish me any which way you want...Anything - no problem...(made me read Nasser's book...or make me watch one of his super exciting videos ...or both!!!!)
...and you'll be bringing all these questions to the seminar, won't you?
Hahaha, yeah right.
Coward.
Keep hiding behind your computer screen just like gh15.
Bring it to the seminar fuckface.
Bring it to the seminar fuckface.
friends,,relax,,the only thing a sane person shoudl do is read this thread from the beggingin,,this is a power poitn presentation by gh15 to what real in this thread and behind it and what not:
1. milos sacrev is NOT IFBB professional,,he does not belong in our organization and got kicked out of it for a reason among many other reasons by one of the smartest people i have known,,,good move thats why he is head of ifbb to make good moves,,if he give him back his card it wont change the fact that milos is a risk and will always remain this way ,,milos = fire,,the only reason i can see milos getting his card back is the KINDNESS OF jim,,thats it absolutely it ! he is a nice person thats his worst peoblem.
2. milos sarcev only come to getbig.com to promose soemthing in the form of seminars that on the face of it is free but in reality its to get you to spend money on useless supplements he is behind
3. in reality the reason he put down hormones is because of the selling point behind those supplement he try to sell becauses thats a big part of his income ,,remember its his gym memberships and this supplemtn scam with some moron athletes who pay him to train them that keeps him alive,,,he cant work in the hormone industry since he is a red liner,,,red liner is someone you dont touch with a 100 foot pole,,we call it in white color levels 'red liner'
4. marcus kiss milos ass for god knows what reason but oh well thats life ,,always agenda behind everything with regard to milos because for some dumb reason the lifters think that training by him wil make them better bodybuilder,,,which is NOT TRUE!
5. milos used narcotics and many here dont even remember since they were probably 10 when milos almost died from seo ,,,milos done everything and anything and not in small doses,,he is what we call drug addict,,you can call it hormone yes but trust me many other things beside hormone pass theough that body in the past
6. milos is a scam artist and a good one because he will find a way to make money out of anything,,,he is the type of fella thaty will always fall on his legs thats why you call him the serb king like one mentioned here,,but being like that is not promising you truth tellin infact it is rarely when he tells the truth ,,,he twist the truth to fit to his own agendas and purposes of the time being,,it is something you are born and develop during the years friends,,,from young age he was this way to this day when he became master in it
7. i am not spiderman i am superman,,so if some retard here decide to compare gh15 to someone compare him to superman,,and for that retard and all of you for that matter i am god,,before me there was absolutely no hormone talk to this level on here,,so gh15 is a turn in time,, a change in direction ,,it was the reborn of get big in a way
8. stave namat look 1000 times better than paco will ever look ,,and steve namat is arrogant yes but atleast he is sane enough not to lie right and left ,,he still havent leanred the american bodybuilding way thank god,,
9. van b is the most knowlegable individual on this board or any board of bodybuilding related for that matter
10. chaos will be chaos which is good but oh well somethings never change
gh15 approved
Again, why do you spend so much time arguing on message boards....You remind me of Chick. He too spends every waking moment on Getbig; trying to 'own' the nobodies!You hear that switznegger?
You hear that switznegger?
Your boss, Hank doesn't like people who spend too much time on the internet arguing.
"fuckface" hmmm, lol ;D
Milos, time to bring something new to your so-called free seminars....Talk about Nasser and his liason with your wife....Yes, you seemed to get a kick out this.Yes Milos seems to be the Ali of Bodybuilding...talk it up then people are curious then come out and spend $. Good sales tactic.
Again, why do you spend so much time arguing on message boards....You remind me of Chick. He too spends every waking moment on Getbig; trying to 'own' the nobodies!
Yes Milos seems to be the Ali of Bodybuilding...talk it up then people are curious then come out and spend $. Good sales tactic.
Yes Milos is quite the sales master.What was he use to sell to all his athletes who got SICK???talking to yourself? ::)
talking to yourself? ::)
No I was replying to Mr Nobody he knows his stuff.Has anyone seen Milos? he says just ask the Hard questions and he will answer them all.I guess he missed my 5 questions.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmm???Milos had a great physique. He was obviously a salesman as well who blames him? I think he was just trying to play the game best he could, pro BB is tough you have to sell yourself to promoters and fans. 8)
1. milos sacrev is NOT IFBB professional,,he does not belong in our organization and got kicked out of it for a reason among many other reasons by one of the smartest people i have known,,,good move thats why he is head of ifbb to make good moves,,if he give him back his card it wont change the fact that milos is a risk and will always remain this way ,,milos = fire,,the only reason i can see milos getting his card back is the KINDNESS OF jim,,thats it absolutely it ! he is a nice person thats his worst peoblem.
Milos had a great physique. He was obviously a salesman as well who blames him? I think he was just trying to play the game best he could, pro BB is tough you have to sell yourself to promoters and fans. 8)
You know I'm a pretty good driver and mostly drive really fast.I have never said that you are bad.
BUT
I won't go to NASCAR message boards to make comments about the pro drivers and post pics about my Suzuki Swift...
:-\
No, Steve has the potential to have a much better pro career than Paco. He can place top 3 in the 202 Olympia. And even in an open class Steve is better, if not yet then eventually.Yes. Potential yes.
5- gh15 lives in all of our homes so he knows what all of us do,just because he does:o ;D
This blue shirts guy has super pro potential according to Paco. And he is still competing in the regional level.
I said to Namat that he must be bigger and there are many amas who has the level of his physic.
Then Namat attacked me.
Sore juicing loser.
Yes. Potential yes.
This blue shirts guy has super pro potential according to Paco. And he is still competing in the regional level.
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I said to Namat that he must be bigger and there are many amas who has the level of his physic.
Then Namat attacked me.
Sore juicing loser.
Looks like a rather lanky guy to me. Doesn't scream "super pro potential" at all. Please post stage shots. You have better pecs all things considered.This guy dont train.Very few.Eat like a girl
He doesn't need much more size if he's competing in the 202 and even in the open class he doesn't necessarily need tons more mass.
This guy dont train.Very few.Eat like a girl
His skin is super thin. Even if he gets fat terribly, he got shredded in 1 month with eating junk food.
His trainer(pacos trainer) always say that he is the most talented but HE DONT DO WHAT HE MUST DO AT ALL.
His contes weight is 93kg
Next you're going to say the guy is practically natural (with natural bitch tits), right? :DYes, he is a juicer.
Doesn't look extremely talented as far as structure and shape of muscle bellies. Looks like arms would always lag no matter what.
Yes, he is a juicer.
but nobody can be look like this with eating hot dogs or hambergers eating like a skinny guy even if he is juicing.
Hamburgers will help you grow a lot better than egg whites and chicken breasts. ;)I am not stupid. Hell I know that those junk makes you big.
I don't believe he eats like a skinny guy. If he gets fat like you say, how's it possible with all those drugs and a skinny guy diet?
Yes. Potential yes.
This blue shirts guy has super pro potential according to Paco. And he is still competing in the regional level.
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I said to Namat that he must be bigger and there are many amas who has the level of his physic.
Then Namat attacked me.
Sore juicing loser.
This guy dont train.Very few.Eat like a girlYou're stupid as fuck.
His skin is super thin. Even if he gets fat terribly, he got shredded in 1 month with eating junk food.
His trainer(pacos trainer) always say that he is the most talented but HE DONT DO WHAT HE MUST DO AT ALL.
His contes weight is 93kg
You're stupid as fuck.I am not stupid to make huge drug investment to an ama genetic like you.
Bodybuilding is all about the best physique not about the best metabolism. And the best physique is mostly depends on genetics. Because if you could win the Mr. Olympia with just hard work, lots of gear and good metabolism then Paco would be the Mr. Olympia since 2002...
But welcome to the real world kyomu...
::)
You're stupid as fuck.And for your another atupidity,
Bodybuilding is all about the best physique not about the best metabolism. And the best physique is mostly depends on genetics. Because if you could win the Mr. Olympia with just hard work, lots of gear and good metabolism then Paco would be the Mr. Olympia since 2002...
But welcome to the real world kyomu...
::)
And for your another atupidity,And looks like shit without any major contest results. So what's your point? ??? ::)
This blue shirt guy eat like a girl and his contest weight is over 200lbs.
I saw many fast metabolism big guy who eats pizza and burger all year around and lean. But they eat a lot.
But again, this guy eats like 3 sandwitches daily.
And looks like shit without any major contest results. So what's your point? ??? ::)And you too. ;)
And you too. ;)Wow guys! Welcome to the japanese kindergarten! I quit...
Wow guys! Welcome to the japanese kindergarten! I quit...LOL this is hilarious ;D
Good luck with your "bodybuilding" career and with the rice cake "factory" as well.
;D
Wow guys! Welcome to the japanese kindergarten! I quit...Hahahahaha ;D
Good luck with your "bodybuilding" career and with the rice cake "factory" as well.
;D
And looks like shit without any major contest results. So what's your point? ??? ::)OK. I feel so sorry for you.
1 -gh15 is a poor man that comes to get big and spreads all that shit just to sell more drugs to make a living
2- i dont kiss nobodys ass, milos is just my friend,and a legend in this sport btw
3- and why we keep thsi thread going on? its very funny heheheh
4- and please lets look at bobdybuilding in diferent ways-
a-as a hobby
b- as a way of life
c-competition bodybuilding
d- pro bodbuilding
5- gh15 lives in all of our homes so he knows what all of us do,just because he does
actualy i think namat is one of the fellas with most potential to be the top of the top in bodybuilding as labrada and gaspari ,,he is only unlucky to be in hungary and thats why he is not olympia level YET,,he is VERY good and you know how arrigant narcsist i am but you cant deny it ,, whenever i asked to analyze his physiqe i had to force myself to find something bad and usually i find it very easily,,can be top within 3 years,,in my opinion right now he should take the lower weight divisionThank you the positive words!
gh15 approved
Thank you the positive words!
;)
Steve, ever watch a turd right after it falls in the water of toilet see the little bubbles of fragrance come up to meet your nose ?Yeah, black is one of my favourite color!
yummmm ...............
Yeah, black is one of my favourite color!
And you know that when the snail met with the ant early in the morning in the forest...? And...
yummmmmm ................
:D ;D :D
im just gettin hard by thinking about itYou're welcome!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=286053.0;attach=326691;image)Right on ;D
great physique.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=286053.0;attach=326691;image)Are you implying namat needs to start performing exercises like this?
great physique.
The problem is you guys havent seen Namat directly.
Certainly, he looks good in the pic.
But, the real one is really small.
As an ama ok. But as a pro, its out of question.
When you guys see him directly you guys will understand what i mean.
I have seen him competing in Santa Susana once. And still he dont weight that much.
Are you implying namat needs to start performing exercises like this?Licking my fiance's pussy is more than enough for my neck.
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Are you implying namat needs to start performing exercises like this?
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this guy looks phenomenal.. what does his weight matter?Lord Takamaki is a good competitive bodybuilder. Everybody knows it, everybody tells him. But I'm not look like him...perhaps this is why he thinks that I'm not a good bodybuilder. :o ;D
he did not impress you, in person.. he didn't give you a hard on, so you bash him?
so he’s not *supersized*.. he looks the way a bodybuilder should look.
ERROR!!!!!!!
gh15 never sold a thing on getbigI'd like to smash you in the face with a 45lb plate. :D
you kiss milos ass same as lukas wood,,remember him? where is he now do you know? GONE ,,FINISHED ,,DONE ,,,a never been ,,,
you are absolutely nothing with out the drugs i mention and go back slowly and safley into 170 pounder 15%
we look at bodybuilding at those perspectives you wrote a b c d but on here every one is bodybuilder and thats the common thing ,,they all take hormones or will ,,lieing to them wont help it will just make them hate you more when times comes and they see yrou nonesense
gh15 doesnt live in your home ,,but gh15 can tell you exactly how many orders happening a day and the number is astounining,,when fella find legit gear they order ,,,OH THEY ORDER,,and you know it well so shut your pie hole and continue to order we love your money
gh15 aproved
I'd like to smash you in the face with a 45lb plate. :D
Got a Bad batch huh???Know-it-all pricks are annoying, especially the spineless ones that would never have the guts to say a word in person. ;)
If a Promoter wanted to have Milos guest pose is it fine as an IFBB Pro or is it better that he pose for a Non IFBB Org???Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmm.Could someone answer why Milos was suspended in the first place?
Could someone answer why Milos was suspended in the first place?
Damn is that it? I thought maybe slapped Joe Weider or something. Bogus
Think he said something about King Paul Chua.We all know how Respected Chua is within the IFBB NPC.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm.FFS.
If a Promoter wanted to have Milos guest pose is it fine as an IFBB Pro or is it better that he pose for a Non IFBB Org???Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmm.
Right on we just saw a fat Ronnie guest pose..
Is there some rule that only IFBB pros can guest pose at NPC events? If not, why couldn't Milos guest pose?
Think he said something about King Paul Chua.We all know how Respected Chua is within the IFBB NPC.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm.FFS.
Yeah... Milos pointed out that Chua was corrupt. So the IFBB suspends Milos for making accusations. Fast forward two years, and the IFBB realizes Milos was right and suspends Chua. But do they apologize to Milos and reinstate him like they should? Noooooooooooo, not the infailable IFBB. ::)
Gh15 has really Shut The Serb King up.HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.FFS. hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYeah, it couldn't be his several businesses or his family....it had to be gh15. ::)
Gh15 has really Shut The Serb King up.HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.FFS. hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
DJ just has a little trouble "see"ing things Milos' way.....
What does DJ have against Milos?
Yeah, it couldn't be his several businesses or his family....it had to be gh15. ::)
You should hear a little more of the story.......fuckin hilarious. ;D
Yeah... Milos pointed out that Chua was corrupt. So the IFBB suspends Milos for making accusations. Fast forward two years, and the IFBB realizes Milos was right and suspends Chua. But do they apologize to Milos and reinstate him like they should? Noooooooooooo, not the infailable IFBB. ::)
Why the Fuck did the Serb ask people to ask the Hard questions only to go Missing???He is a BIG MOUTH.Sort of the reason he is No longer an IFBB Pro Ooooooooooooooooooops.Why don't you come to his seminar and ask all the questions you want, face to face?
Why don't you come to his seminar and ask all the questions you want, face to face?
hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm :o
I wasn't the Big Mouth saying ask questions here was I CLOWN.No, but you've been the big mouth continuing to ask questions when they aren't being answered, aren't you, FAGGOT :D
Yeah... Milos pointed out that Chua was corrupt. So the IFBB suspends Milos for making accusations. Fast forward two years, and the IFBB realizes Milos was right and suspends Chua. But do they apologize to Milos and reinstate him like they should? Noooooooooooo, not the infailable IFBB. ::)
It really makes them look badhahaha Not yet they don't. :)
But Bob said the IFBB doesn't owe shit to Milos
The Rep for men in thongs is having a few hours break from Getbig.
Yes Chick will be back on the boards very soon....he can't live for even a couple of hours without posting on Getbig.
Chick, spends most of his waking life on the boards....that is what a 'master of the universe' does!
Bob Chick cannot give you an answer at present as he is currently being serviced by IFBB technicians and his new circuit board is not yet installed.lol i see what you did there.
Could Milos actually sue the IFBB ?
For loss of incomes or whatever, since he got suspended for no valid reason ?
DJ just has a little trouble "see"ing things Milos' way.....
As an ama ok. But as a pro, its out of question.
The Rep for men in thongs is having a few hours break from Getbig.
Yes Chick will be back on the boards very soon....he can't live for even a couple of hours without posting on Getbig.
Chick, spends most of his waking life on the boards....that is what a 'master of the universe' does!
Milos has a very forgiving personality, not necessarily a bad thing.What if Paul Chua showed up at Koloseum?
Ray ratted him out. Milos still manages to speak well of Ray. I'm sure if Nasser showed up in Koloseum it would be like old times, all forgiven.
What if Paul Chua showed up at Koloseum?
What if Paul Chua showed up at Koloseum?
What if Paul Chua showed up at Koloseum?
I stood next to Paul Chua last weekend, the man can barely walk up a few steps without someone helping him, he is pretty old and not in very good health, Joe Weider looks better, but then Joe worked out i dont think Chua ever did, but Chua is a very powerful and respected man in Asian bodybuilding and to be honest the ABBF is a better fed than the international IFBB
this guy looks phenomenal.. what does his weight matter?Not a bashing. I say what i saw.
he did not impress you, in person.. he didn't give you a hard on, so you bash him?
so he’s not *supersized*.. he looks the way a bodybuilder should look.
What if Paul Chua showed up at Koloseum?
Not a bashing. I say what i saw.I sort of agree here... I would rather see the taller, freakier and bigger bodybuilders if I wanted less than that I would support the naturals...
Agreed that he looks really good and bber should stop in this size,IF THE ARTISTIC POINT IS THE ONLY MATTER.
But, BBing is about the muscle finaly.
Who pays the entrance bill to see -90kg guy?
Ronnie, Markus, Cutler...etc,YES.
See the pic of him standing with the best 202 in the world, David Henry. Yeah he doesn't belong there at all. ::)Agreed, there looking good.
I sort of agree here... I would rather see the taller, freakier and bigger bodybuilders if I wanted less than that I would support the naturals...Paco is on stage 121-125kg. Height is 174cm.
What does Paco weigh on stage? at what height? I am fan of what Paco has achieved with his structure... in the side shots he is incredible
But, BBing is about the muscle finaly.Agreed. ;)
Who pays the entrance bill to see -90kg guy?
Ronnie, Markus, Cutler...etc,YES.
Agreed, there looking good.Thank you.
Agreed. ;)Finaly......
But I also think that I'm the type of guy who don't need to be more than 225 lbs onstage (at 5'7"). I was 198 last year, this year will be about the same but I'm just 25 years old. I have time to grow.
Finaly......That's OK.
Thats what i am saying always and you misunderstand that i bash you.
Its the only way to be succesful in this business. You should be a massive bber.
That's OK.I have seen these pics already.
But you also said that I should be more massive...like Priest or Hide.
Well, here are some precontest pics from 2007 with my friends Hide and Lee Powell at the Koloseum Gym. 2007, when Hide was bigger and I was smaller than now...
Pics by Milos Sarcev, thank you bro!
;)
I have seen these pics already.OK, I see it bro! I'll try to be better and better.
Hide has got way more massive than this and now he is in where he is.
You grew up. But, you should more.
I say it to you strictly and hard as if i am bashing you.
Why? Cus its not your hobby. You are a pro.
You are investing lots of money. You should be succesful anyway.
OK, I see it bro! I'll try to be better and better.Good luck as a pro career.
And you...after 10000 posts getting more and more kind... ::) :D ;)
Namat Stop Hijacking Threads you arse clown.This is Not a Schmoe thread So move along No money to be made here you little short Schmoe lover.Right.
.I think you got Hide beat here.
LOL funny as hell 8)
How funny would it be guys if "New Hank Wood" was actually Chick's wife's gimmick account-
See the pic of him standing with the best 202 in the world, David Henry. Yeah he doesn't belong there at all. ::)looks better than hanry
Chick, you seem to really get a kick out of bating Milos.
Yes Chick, you really have a love obsession with posting on Getbig.
Chick, do you ever feel guilty about the amount of time you spend on the boards?
Chick feels a sense of empowerment by being a part of Getbig.
He is here day and night, arguing and debating..... the guy is a machine!
I wonder if he is truthful to those closest to him, about the amount of time he spends on Getbig? Hmmmmm
Chick, what drives you to post incessantly on Getbig?
Chick, you are a man with responsibilities, yet you choose to spend day and night on this board.... arguing.
What have you become? You ignore everything around you, so you sleek around posting on this site...get a reality check for Christ sake!
Where is the King of the Serbs???Mighty Milos ran like a boy when Gh15 appeared Oh my, hey Milos is there Something???Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Chick lives at his computer.
Chick lives at his computer. He is attached at the hip to Getbig. He eats, shits and spanks to Getbig.
I heard that Chick even uses his Blackberry to post on Getbig....Yes, the Chickster needs to deal with his message board addiction.....and fast!
Chick lives at his computer. He is attached at the hip to Getbig. He eats, shits and spanks to Getbig.;D
I heard that Chick even uses his Blackberry to post on Getbig....Yes, the Chickster needs to deal with his message board addiction.....and fast!
people on here are asking who would win a fight between Milos and GH15. that's like Mike Tyson vs. spiderman. a real man vs. a work of fiction.
Milos calls gh15 a Moron and gh15 rips Milos a new arsehole and MIlos the Serb dissapears.Boooooooooooo ooooooooooooooM gh15 is a powerful IFBB Pro and Milos knows it.HAHAHAHA.Oh by the way Milos why NOT tell gh15 to type under his Real name Hmmmmmmmmmmm???
;D ;D
Well "hazbin"...could you make that point just a bit better by adding Tyson at his all time best...and our fiction character GH15 (Gayest Homo who loves 15 years old? ::))...in no means deserve Superhero comparison [unless is some Super-Homo type...having no balls, brain, sense, self esteem.../another one million "attributes" of complete loser - in no particular order/...but - I have no time to waste...so maybe my biggest fan (after Nasser) "Schnitzel-gerr", who obviously thinks/talks/writes...fantasizes, etc, etc... about me - more often than my mother (but still less than Big Naz, Gigolo of the 21st Century, proud owner of the - "energizer bunny", one and only (and more than likely :-X - very lonely :-[) 'cutie' ...could do that for me?
And - obviously - GH15 and Winner schnitzel together - could create some 'super power' cyber killer (female - of course...) who could absolutely "terrorize" king of Serbs...
Just - PPPPPP-LEASE don't try to look for me...and maybe find me...in the real world...
I think I would absolutely faint from fear...just knowing that two of you (like a pair of ovaries)...are actually "after me"... :'( :'(
you sure yorue over 40 milos sarcev,, i mean i know you look 57 but you sure you are even over 40? you sound like a complete infantile ,,i wish i just wish we could have michael jackson back and sacrifice your sorry assAlmost perfect spelling.......you're slipping. ;)
mj15 approved
:-[ :-[ :-[ I have :'( :'( :-X :-X :-[ :-[ :-\ :-\ a new...arse...hole...??? :'( :-\ :-[ :-X :-\ :'( :-\ :-X :-[
...and I have :'( :'( :'( :'( dis :'( :'( :'(appeared :'( :'( :'( :'(
Excuse me Sir...Schnitzel, Pretzel... :-[ :-[ :-[OMG - I don't even know how to pronounce or spell your name... Please, please, please - forgive me sir...
I am not worthy :'( :'( :'(...I must go :'( :'( :'(to the "cyber world" :'( :'( :'((where all the heroes live! My heroes too! Vagina, Cervix, Uterus, Fabia...and...Clito...I mean Clinton...oh no - he was pres...Never mind... )...I must hide...and never, ever, ever, forever, never, ever, never, ever, never, for ever and ever, never, ever, ever, evvvvvvvveeeerrrrr - NNNNN-EEEEE-VVVVV-EEEEE-RRRRR - not ever... (did I say never?)..."NOT tell gh15 to type under his Real name Hmmmmmmmmmmm???
Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :o :o :o :o :o :o - he might get his FSH to cause his ovum to mature and its follicle release estrogen!?
Oh no...not GH15...I mean his increasing estrogen will inhibit his FSH but stimulate LH - and (as it is typical to females) - surging LH will indeed stimulate the ripe follicle to burst and release its ovum!!!!
Well this Fella Gh15 is telling it like it is when your kidneys are kicking you in the back and all dried out Don't ask the doctor "Why the Fuck am I sick"unlike the Serb King who has had so many of his athletes for a better word FUCK UP on his level of Drug Abuse.You to will Dry the Fuck up Milos and when you do only then will people know your Truth.Fucking Lier.
you sure yorue over 40 milos sarcev,, i mean i know you look 57 but you sure you are even over 40? you sound like a complete infantile ,,i wish i just wish we could have michael jackson back and sacrifice your sorry ass
mj15 approved
oh WOW!
You just had to "rub it in" and remind me of my - miserable life...as a fu..king IFBB pro traveling the world, changing all those plains/Continents/hotels/all those ladies I had to say "no" to.../when asking if I was busy afterwords.../...
All these hhhhaaaarrrrdddd - photoshoots with all those....women...Eh, almost completely naked women - laying on top of you - all oiled up and "slippery when wet"...and - should I go ON...?
Endorsement contracts that just had to make you all confused - how many zeros, which account to put/spend...whatever...creating all those tax problems....
I could have been just like my hero - Gayest Homo sub15!Hating the world for his shortcomingsI mean - having super exciting "kicking kidneys"...or 'kick-back-kidneys'...no career to worry about...no women to deal with...no money or accounts to be confused about...
No...oh...shit...My wife is calling...GOT TO GO... :'( :'( :'(
Cyber Land...here I come...Schnitzel - save me a nano-byte or two...I'll come visit as soon as I...Hmmmmmm?
WTF - I am King of Serbia...!
I am going nowhere!
It is good to be King! (Yes even Kamali...Did you see Barb? KK knows what's up...and has both kidneys to "play with"...etc...)...
Milos is up to no good....yet again!Hank... you moron Milos has ALWAYS posted like this
His recent posts indicate that he is not of sound mind.
Milos is clearly affected by drugs, probably some form of amphetamine-based substance.
His posts are schizophrenic in structure. They are disjointed and illogical -the work of a raving drug user.
Milos has always battled drug addiction. He appears to be using heavily again!
Poor, suffering Milimar. I really fear for this woman!
oh WOW!
Looks like you should be the one writing the book... not Nasser LOL
sounds like there are some very interesting stories to be told... the combination of your physique, good looks and charm undoubtedly resulting in some fun...
Depressing but true...
milos sacrev ,,all those pretty women who wanted you after showes and guest posintg ,,,if they realy did youd end up marrying one and not marrying her which i think is far from the best body or face and we both know this,,
mj15 approved
Oh Dear Lord I cannot believe some guys PAID this Fucking raving Synthol filled bicep Fool money for training advice.FFSWhat do you do for a living Switz?
Milos' post's have become increasingly erractic and disjointed.
I believe it is further indication that he back using amphetamines.
Yes, Milos' rants are indicative of a person who is chemically affected.
Ya'll should stop playing with the Snow Man
What do you do for a living Switz?
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I made some Great investments so Now I just Enjoy life without concern for Money.Life is Great.
:-[ :-[ :-[ I have :'( :'( :-X :-X :-[ :-[ :-\ :-\ a new...arse...hole...??? :'( :-\ :-[ :-X :-\ :'( :-\ :-X :-[
...and I have :'( :'( :'( :'( dis :'( :'( :'(appeared :'( :'( :'( :'(
Excuse me Sir...Schnitzel, Pretzel... :-[ :-[ :-[OMG - I don't even know how to pronounce or spell your name... Please, please, please - forgive me sir...
I am not worthy :'( :'( :'(...I must go :'( :'( :'(to the "cyber world" :'( :'( :'((where all the heroes live! My heroes too! Vagina, Cervix, Uterus, Fabia...and...Clito...I mean Clinton...oh no - he was pres...Never mind... )...I must hide...and never, ever, ever, forever, never, ever, never, ever, never, for ever and ever, never, ever, ever, evvvvvvvveeeerrrrr - NNNNN-EEEEE-VVVVV-EEEEE-RRRRR - not ever... (did I say never?)..."NOT tell gh15 to type under his Real name Hmmmmmmmmmmm???
Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :o :o :o :o :o :o - he might get his FSH to cause his ovum to mature and its follicle release estrogen!?
Oh no...not GH15...I mean his increasing estrogen will inhibit his FSH but stimulate LH - and (as it is typical to females) - surging LH will indeed stimulate the ripe follicle to burst and release its ovum!!!!
Yes Milos, you allowed Nasser to have his way with Milimar.
How could you allow such deborchery within you marriage?
I thought you were a religious man?
Can someone notify the beautiful man with glasses and get his input on this? BigBobs?What's new with the racist of HI these days?
Hmm...Great song...Ozzy is excellent there.
Only see one and that would be the guy who had to read about another Famous BB with his wife and that guy doesn't even have an IFBB Pro card.Oh POOR SERB.Post a pic of your IFBB card..........oh, wait.......jealousy is not pretty on you.
Well I can tell you it's Black for the 1st time in years and also Gh15 has one but you Seminar Serb boy doesn't have one and might NEVER get it back.Oh fuck does that hurt his EGO???FUCK YEAH.So I'll take that as a "no" you can't post a pic of your IFBB card.
FFS, you douchebags enjoy your evening of stalking some guy on the internet you've never met.
Losers.
Why are you doing the Serbs fighting ???Are you looking at getting some cheap Steroids or something like that???Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm.Why not Post about the Giant Serb Seminar or was it a FAIL just like his IFBB Pro card.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmpraying mantess in full effect through his gimmick lol
No Meltdown just cold hard facts.You are an Ugly Bald Schmoe, thats why you hang here looking for Cock.:D
switznegger is a meltdown machine...both
failed hopes, failed dreams???
what is it?
Milos, you claimed to have all these beautiful women 'throwing' themselves at you after shows.
Yet, you chose to marry manface-Milimar....What gives/what is the truth?
Milos, i don't have issues with how Milimar looks.
I have issues with the lies you spew about all these 'supposed' women you have bedded!
:P
Mishko doesn't mind the fact that she's been with a lot of bodybuilders.
;D
Your mama doesn't seems to mind the same fact ((being with a lot of bodybuilders...)) about you, her favorite son, ...who - in more than three decades (or is it four?) couldn't "score" ONCE (not a single time!) - with a half-way decent looking woman - even if your life depended on it...
Especially since the gay marriage law was put in full effect here in US - your poor mom finally got some relief, some hope, happiness ...as her son is getting all kinds of proposals, messages, calls...Her favorite son is - "popular with boys!".
And not just boys ;D...but BIG boys ;)...(better yet- :oGETBIG :o boys? :o)...GH15-16 or even 20 (BTW, Hey G - what does your "G" stands for? Gyno? Gay? Groupy, Grouchy...Gizmo, Gilmore...well... as the moderators here were so kind to confirm that your "H" stands unequivocally for HOMO (sexual...not sapiens :-X) and 15 is your IQ :((on a good day) - are you inviting me to your wedding (???) ...or you are not sure that you'll be the lucky winner of KNNY Jelly's heart... To be your husband (or is it a wife?).
You know - you are facing some strong competition - coming from - Winner Snitzell and Spanking Monkey...or Hanky Panky (love to spanky).
All 3 of you are exceptional, FORMIDABLE..spectacular - losers!
New and super advanced prototype of "ML21-C" (Major Loser of the 21st Century)!
So if your mama doesn't mind - why would I ? (care what my wife did before she met her prince charming?)
But, as today [July 31st] it just happens to be my 13th year Anniversary - I would sustain from my usual sarcasm and "pass" on opportunity to maybe "dig deep" and ask all of you who somehow...(supposedly?) know "her business" better than herself?
Did you "hold the candle" while she was being Entertained (supposedly) with "a lot of bodybuilders"...or candle, yourself and bodybuilders decided to play "hide and seek" ::) :o instead?
Milos
since you are a 'pro'
why do you waste valuable time
talking such smack?
When will you make your comeback on the pro stage ?
I am dead serious.
What?
I don't sound professional?
Not when you are talking about people's 'mamas'
I am serious, too
conduct yourself with better comportment=more respect
you should know this
OK...as much as I am "wasting time" I enjoy my little conversations with my true fans - like GH (who wish I was dead :'( :'( :'(...), - who hates me because he is impotent, without a kidney (on dialysis machine), without a job...his body (that supposedly was gracing IFBB pro stage once or twice - before his ultimate stupidity made him overdose on relatively "already overdosed" cycle that "Einstein" suggested while he was in his RELATIVEly insane state of mind...So - I guess is my fault that I competed only 72 times as IFBB pro, qualifying for Mr. Olympia in 10 consecutive years since I turn professional...that I got dozen endorsement contracts, and even as retired for about 5 years - had publication, supplementation and gym contract...over 100 covers of the magazines world wide...I mean - I should have probably taken one of his suggested cycles - and fuck myself up in less than a year...but look good for day and a half!?
Spanking Donkey - some bipolar psychopath that feeds himself with fuel believing he is affecting me in any negative way...(as you can see I use his words to describe my wife - as he suggested...and gave her some free marketing while I am in wasting time mode..
And finally KY Jelly or what's his name - CNN..? knnY...anyway, a tuff cyber jerk-off who talks big behind the cyber firewall - attacking my lovely wife (who doesn't care a slightest little bit...but nevertheless) - I just answered for her - knowing that my wife would kick the living hell out of Tuffy-Luffy if he ever gets some balls to show up and say something like that in front of her...
And - sometimes is good to be little "out there"...
It is fun for me...as I love reading those "life treats" from my "getbig" boys/fans...
Milos is 12 weeks out of contest condition at any point! At the 2007 Arnold and 2007 Olympia he was 245 and SHREDDED!!!
Looks like a struck a very sensitve nerve Mishko.
So tell us all....what's it like tasting penis when you kiss your wife?
;D
Wow, yes sir...how much for this wonderful counseling?Don't pay lax any attention. He is Mike Dusa, well known in certain, ummmm, let's just call them fetish communities. So, enuf talk about proper behavior and more pictures of your hot wife...
It is great to see how eggs feel comfortable teaching chickens a lesson how to scramble...
If you didn't notice - it is my 13 year Anniversary so divorce is - certain - any moment now...Tell me what to look for...some kind of sign - so I could divorce her...or maybe she should divorce me?
Yes, how horrible posting photos of IFBB fitness professional (figure competitor) on one of the biggest fitness forums in the world...My bad.
I hope she'll forgive me...
Now, sir...I would politely conclude that YOU are indeed wasting my time - so - have a nice day... ;)
So...in so many words.....
you don't mind tasting dick.
Thats all you had to say Mishko.
;D
Milos, you didn't answer my question in that other thread you started. So I'll ask you here - what do you think of Nasser selling his soiled / worn posing trunks in his new website? Is he really a multi-millionaire who is doing it as a gesture of appreciation for his "fans"?
Milos, you didn't answer my question in that other thread you started. So I'll ask you here - what do you think of Nasser selling his soiled / worn posing trunks in his new website? Is he really a multi-millionaire who is doing it as a gesture of appreciation for his "fans"?
haha "appreciation for his fans?" hahah
WOW - I didn't?Seems Nasser has dropped to the lowest level, selling shit out of his trunk and changing oil at the garage. What happened to him?
Shame on me...
What do i think of Nasser who?
Whoever it is - selling his own soiled, worn posing trunks is equivalent to this psycho I just talked to - Maybe Nasser wants to accomodate penis tasters...?
But, I am too old fashion and conservative to even talk about it...
Out of my comfort zone...Ask this penis taster Knny - he'll know the answer - guaranteed!
Wow...so guys depositing sperm in her pie whole does bother you.
Go figures.
;D
Wow, too much sperm affected your memory - I am not married to your mother...and whoever is depositing sperm - it has to have a reason...
Maybe mama knows your penis tasting obsession - so she collects it every day for li'l KY...?
And that's that...as I am disgusting myself...
Well, I should have known better - getting into discussion with flaming penis taster who can't think or talk about anything else...I am gone from penis fetish thread...sayonara...and make room for me to throw up...
Nothing like being married to a whore..is it Mishko?That on cut to the bone ;)
Well, that's the answer your dad knows better than anyone else - I guess?
Interesting question - you "sucking machine" - but I can't help you with that...So, why do you think your papa thinks that?
Is this how this whole penis tasting concept came about?
You are sick, sick family...Moderators - can you please do something?
I am horrified about even slightest possibility that sucking machine KY does come to my gym - wanting me to drop my pants...
Police?!
Agents?
Agent Tyson - where are you now?
At Shawn's place?!
Oh,I should have known...Never mind...I'll call shorty - it's been a long time since that over 40 Obesity lecture/training DVD (was that actually training DVD...or...or...nutritio nal...kind of food or wine tasting...or...well...-you know what I mean? Nowadays you can't even talk about food tasting anymore from sicko's like KY...)
JUst SHUT THE FVCK UP AND SHOW UP SOME SHOWS OF THIS YEAR IN THE NAME OF YOUR DAUGHTER.
JUst SHUT THE FVCK UP AND SHOW UP SOME SHOWS OF THIS YEAR IN THE NAME OF YOUR DAUGHTER.You tell them kyomu put up or show up ;)
You tell them kyomu put up or show up ;)Exactly.
JUst SHUT THE FVCK UP AND SHOW UP SOME SHOWS OF THIS YEAR IN THE NAME OF YOUR DAUGHTER.
Kyomu, that's what happens when you don't listen to your master...kyomu unless you juice it up for a least a year man I wouldnt show up against Milos
Paco told you to take 1000 mg a week - not per day - you moron.
Which show would you like me to show up fatso?
Kyomu, that's what happens when you don't listen to your master...
Paco told you to take 1000 mg a week - not per day - you moron.
Which show would you like me to show up fatso?
Sounds like you're scrambling as usual mishko.
Oh..btw...ever wonder there's times she won't kiss you on the lips?
;D
Mishko lot's the gym whore. I heard she's a third input kinda girl.
Go...Mishko!
There is nothing like anonymous cyber hero - talking trash - hiding in his cyber space...
I am just offering for entertaining purposes: come to my gym and call any female in my family with your words of choice...Any...
And especially my wife...(I'll share this thread with her - at that point...and now - I have to go back to normal life...it was "oh so pleasureful" here on getbig turf - as usual...)
Milos pretty much destroying all the internet wannabes shotgun style while standing tall wide in the open.
Only real men can achieve that.
Anyone can start rumorish bullshit, only top of the crop males can compete.
Milos 2, facelesssses, 0.
Kyomu, that's what happens when you don't listen to your master...Dont give me your fvckin responsability called the promise with your lovely daugther.
Paco told you to take 1000 mg a week - not per day - you moron.
Which show would you like me to show up fatso?
Yeah...thats what I heard. Guys can just roll up & fill her ass with seeman without much of a fight.Wow that one is straight through the heart
;D
Alex why do you defend Milos, he seems like the type of guy who would be talking shit about you behind your back.
Yeah...thats what I heard. Guys can just roll up & fill her ass with seeman without much of a fight.
;D
Dont give me your fvckin responsability called the promise with your lovely daugther.
You must be in ANY IFBB show!
Hah? You are skinny as bone now? Then show up under 202lbs class!(Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha haaahahaha)
Or you are going to break your promise with YOUR DAUGTHER?
I am keep on being natural. SO will we bet anything?
Me too. Your mom became legendary drive through "roll-up & fill her ass - while pumping gas" - [only: buck-fifty add-on] in Chevron Gas station and Car Wash down the street where you were born.
Your dad was lucky winner of "KY Jelly" bastard-kid (you, my boy) as he got buck-fifty discount from mama...He never had to pay for fill-up ever again...But, since you turned 5 he preferred sticking his penis into your mouth after filling your mam...[oh, I am getting sick just visualizing what your sick fuck dad did to his 5 year old boy...]
I didn't realize why you had such a "penis tasting" obsession at first...but now I do...
Sorry bro, how is dad treating you these days?
Does he still puts mama in front of you - or did you get some break finally - and changed the order?
Anyone know what Milos is talking about? Ever?
You strike me as an incredibly mature and enlightened character. Good for you!
Who the hell deleted my post saying that knny should be ashamed of himself for writing something like this? That's all I said. Some of us have issues with Milos, myself included, but sh*t like this is over the line. The other post agreeing with me saying that it was very "unclassy" was also deleted.
WTF! Vile crap like this is not censored but when someone calls this low life on it the post gets deleted.
Enough on family. Seriously. We are not hear to discuss and attack family. Not cool. You are warned.
Milos is a great debater, and can stand on his own. When you attack someone's family, that is out of the question.
Dont think me not being here for a day while taking a rest with my family gives you the right to do that.
We all know the rules.
Enough on family. Seriously. We are not hear to discuss and attack family. Not cool. You are warned.
Milos is a great debater, and can stand on his own. When you attack someone's family, that is out of the question.
Dont think me not being here for a day while taking a rest with my family gives you the right to do that.
We all know the rules.
Maybe it's because Alex23 might have a modicum of human decency. Many may think that Milos is a shady character and have real beefs with him but these types of attacks on his family are over the line. Very sleazy and cowardly.
The way I look at it...I was just merely stating a fact on the gossip & opinion board.
I guess that I should stick to spreading gossips & my own opinion since it can't get me in trouble. Funny, usually slander on false pretences is what gets you in trouble....not telling facts.
:-\
WHAT FACTS? What FACTS do you really know about Milos' personal life and the life of his wife and family.
You are a coward and you have no honor.
Milos, knowing my real name is as useful as my internet handle. I'm a nobody and Pellius (one of the original knights of the Round Table) would be just as meaningful as Mark Ichinose. Besides, I may run for office one day and being a poster on GetBig won't exactly help my case.
I've already discussed my issues with you earlier in this thread. You being less than candid about how you achieved and maintain your condition. I thinks it's a bit more than your mind power and positive thinking.
Be that as it may, the way your family is being dragged into this is truly cowardly and repugnant. You've shown that you are willing to take the time to engage in debate but now you have to waste your time defending your family's honor. It's disgraceful how you are being attacked.
And, yes, someone is censoring the posts. Mine and someone elses posts defending you was deleted. I wonder how many more are. I've already reported it to the moderators and I'm saving this one.
It's truly a shameful disgrace how your family is being attacked. Some people have no sense of honor and human decency.
BTW, I've always admired your quad development. Perfect balance and proportion.
Carry on.
lol @ the guys on here thinking big muscles = tough guy.
Milos would probably tear his triceps off the bone if he tried to throw a punch, not to mention that if somone landed a punch on Milos there would be a high possibility of an oil leak being sprung.
MILOSHKA IS THE PRETTY AND SEXY. VERY ARTISTIC SUPER POSER TOO. VERY NICE, YES.
he will come on stage in a coffin.
Enough on family. Seriously. We are not hear to discuss and attack family. Not cool. You are warned.
Milos is a great debater, and can stand on his own. When you attack someone's family, that is out of the question.
Dont think me not being here for a day while taking a rest with my family gives you the right to do that.
We all know the rules.
The way I look at it...I was just merely stating a fact on the gossip & opinion board.
I guess that I should stick to spreading gossips & my own opinion since it can't get me in trouble. Funny, usually slander on false pretences is what gets you in trouble....not telling facts.
:-\
Milos,
A little off topic but I was pondering the training you had Dennis Wolf do pre-contest. It
was probably the most brutal sessions Ive seen and Im no young boy. Do guys like Dennis
not stay with you because its so hard despite how good they look on stage?
Enough on family. Seriously. We are not hear to discuss and attack family. Not cool. You are warned.It's "here", bubblehead.
Milos is a great debater, and can stand on his own. When you attack someone's family, that is out of the question.
Dont think me not being here for a day while taking a rest with my family gives you the right to do that.
We all know the rules.
It's "here", bubblehead.
And like Alex23 and tu_holmes have stated, not one of you cowardly fucks would walk into Koloseum and talk to Milos the way you are here, pussies.
Milos...in an unreated subject... could you please shed some light as to how Bob Chick is able to just wander into California Pharmacies, and buy Humalog without a Script, when all of Venice/Santa Monica seems stumped as to how to pull this off?
Thanks in advance....
M!
I would walk in there and show you guys how to train like real men 8)
Pick the day this or next week...
It's "here", bubblehead.Welcome back chaos i assume you have been on vacation riding your flaming bicycle ;)
And like Alex23 and tu_holmes have stated, not one of you cowardly fucks would walk into Koloseum and talk to Milos the way you are here, pussies.
Yes, I can share the light - Bob puts his foot in his mouth just about every time he gets into debate...
Some things that you guys can find out for yourself (like this Humalog instance) he doesn't bother responding - as he knows he already made a fool out of himself with his cocky arrogance and: "educate yourself genius" comments...
When he should have listen to his own advice before he makes the claim he cannot defend...
Now, IFBB related issues he was defending are all very similar in nature to this instance - he wold be way off the line - but inability of others to get the real IFBB scoop (and TRUTH) would leave the room for his arrogant statements for several years now...
He could be a good guy if he ever finds his identity - instead of being a puppet of purpose...
I can defend my claim....do you have the testicular fortitude to back up your foolish statement?Chick this is mo way to treat idiots....be nice. :)
I'll put up $5,000 to take a polygraph test by a reputable company, and they can ask me if I had any perscription to purchase humalog/ humalin-R from a legitimate pharmacy in the U.S.....
Put your money where your mouth is......mouth.
Timeframe was about 2002-03...
I can defend my claim....do you have the testicular fortitude to back up your foolish statement?
I'll put up $5,000 to take a polygraph test by a reputable company, and they can ask me if I had any perscription to purchase humalog/ humalin-R from a legitimate pharmacy in the U.S.....
Put your money where your mouth is......mouth.
Timeframe was about 2002-03...
I can defend my claim....do you have the testicular fortitude to back up your foolish statement?
I'll put up $5,000 to take a polygraph test by a reputable company, and they can ask me if I had any perscription to purchase humalog/ humalin-R from a legitimate pharmacy in the U.S.....
Put your money where your mouth is......mouth.
Timeframe was about 2002-03...
I am in montreal Milos ;D
But one of these days I will come to california to train at your gym I promise. :D
right now school is the priority
Bobby...I am waiting...Chick must be unavailable for comment at this time as most times ;)
I know you are here...
Come out, come out wherever you are... :-*
And nice try of mixing humalog with humalin-R... ;)
We were talking HUMALOG Pinocchio (your nose blocking your vision?)
Chick must be unavailable for comment at this time as most times ;)
I'll take you up on that offer - and why don't we double it (when we are at testicular fortitude?)Holy smokes. Hic Rhodus, hic salta, indeed! :o
Actually - why double?
If you want to challenge the testicular fortitude (kind a like that saying - thx Pinocchio) - why don't we add ZERO to your $5000.00 and make it $50000.00?
I'll take you up on that offer - and why don't we double it (when we are at testicular fortitude?)
Actually - why double?
If you want to challenge the testicular fortitude (kind-a like that saying - thx Pinocchio) - why don't we add ZERO to your $5000.00 and make it $50000.00?
I wasn't trying to mix them, fool....I had them BOTH.
I'd ask you to put up the gym, but I cant afford to take the loss...
Fool, I was talking about HUMALOG and RULES AND REGULATIONS about humalog...not humulinR - Bozo.
So, how are your raisins hanging?
Ready for testicular fortitude challenge?
And - another thing...Don't confuse me with "mouth" (Shawn) or "raisinettes for testicles" IFBB Pro athlete rep - my nick name was, is and always will be: Milos "the Mind"...
Why do you think they called me that? ::)
And don't even try with - because you LOST IT...I've heard that too many times already...
Welcome back chaos i assume you have been on vacation riding your flaming bicycle ;)Been burning up the mormons. 8)
I'll put up my gym - against your wig and radio show...but I can't afford synthetic hair or ...well never mind - I respect Don - so I'll pass on that comment...
So, quit being Bobby - make it official !
Milos the mouth...thats what they called you. The only person that thinks you are "the mind"....is you
I'm not debating what the rules and regulations are....I'm saying I got BOTH without perscription, by walking In and asking for them. You want to dispute my claim....by all means.
A fool (or mouth) and his money are soon parted
they call Milos the mind because they couldn't pronounce or spell milos.
bob on the other hand, was easy to pronounce.
A fool (or puppet) and his money are soon parted - I am saying that YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY - AND I'll take you up on that offer - right away...so quit playing around make it official...
Been burning up the mormons. 8)Glad to hear you have working on a good cause ;D
Official it is...you think I would make a bet I could possibly lose? LOL...you're dumber than you look
quoted for future reference.Why, Chick will just delete this one too.
You can add the hair question to the bet....double or nothing. Wig, piece, transplants, any work whatsoever (other than occasional color, which you could sure use some, my graying friend...) anything but 100% original....you win.
Glad you respect "Don".....not sure who he is...but I'm sure he appreciates it
Official it is...you think I would make a bet I could possibly lose? LOL...you're dumber than you look
Well - your partner Don - Dan? What's the difference...
No, I am not betting your wig looking hair transplant you got - that was not important...I just added as I know you love the attention...Who blames you Pinocchio...Giepetto was a puppet-file...?
Well, my gray hair is actually reflecting my age - which I am not trying to hide it by coloring... ;)
No reason bro...
But, let's go back to our bet...
Maybe someone should throw in a bet for the "athletes rep" position, since the one that represents them now acts like an asshole to them. :D
Official it is...you think I would make a bet I could possibly lose? LOL...you're dumber than you look
That would be cool...except you have to be in the club in order to represent...Milos isn't.Is that because he won't sell his soul like you did in order to hang around muscle men as often as you can?
That would be cool...except you have to be in the club in order to represent...Milos isn't.
oh - i forgot...
Now - how much you want to bet i can get it back anytime I chose to?
Difference is...it's a different name....you know...Mind/ Mouth, whats the differnce right?
Now it's a transplant? LOL...add it in, mouth...
My bad - it's been so long since i was at the show - I forgot if his name was Don Solomon or Dan Salami...anyway...Nobody pronounces my name correctly - so who cares...
50 GRAND we are talking ...and testicular formid...I mean fortitude!
You could....just have sign the disclaimer they sent you...which you already violatedHow could he violate something he hasn't agreed to ???
You could....just have sign the disclaimer they sent you...which you already violated
How could he violate something he hasn't agreed to ???
Didn't they cover that in your security officers class?
Show is this Sat in Tampa...feel free to stop by, I'll reintroduce you. I'll leave a complimentary ticket for you....save you money, you'll need it.
OH...thank you Bobby...I might actually come...I have a friend competing there...but also jury duty possibly...so I couldn't commit just yet...
Is it VIP ticket?
Balcony?
He posted the agreement on his website...which was clearly on the list of things he would agree not to do.Not going to argue with you, because you have IFBB balls imprinted on your face, but you know you can't violate something you never agreed to in the first place.
Thus, he violated it before even agreeing to it...
Never in a "security officers class"...whatever thats suppossed to be
Milos do you have to go through Chick to back into the IFBB or straight to Manion?
lol @ men in thongs arguing.
Not going to argue with you, because you have IFBB balls imprinted on your face, but you know you can't violate something you never agreed to in the first place.
I wish you weren't such an IFBB retard Chick, I have a feeling you could be a pretty cool guy in real life. :-\
I'm not wearing a thing....you, Milos?
He posted the agreement on his website...which was clearly on the list of things he would agree not to do.
Thus, he violated it before even agreeing to it...
Never in a "security officers class"...whatever thats suppossed to be
oh :o :o :o you guys are reading my website...How nice... ;D ;D ;D
You like my section for puppets Boby?
How much you are asking to use your image as a mascot?
You'll need income in months to come bro...your stupidity (ok helped with arrogance) made you give up those hard earned 50 K ...
BTW - I don't accept payments or credit cards...CASH UPFRONT AND FULL AMOUNT...
Actually - sand Ron 5 K directly...no problem at all...
Retard...one of the provisos was that he not disclose it on a public forum...he posted it on a public forum, thus a violation of the agreement BEFORE even signing/ agreeing to it...
Retard
Retard...one of the provisos was that he not disclose it on a public forum...he posted it on a public forum, thus a violation of the agreement BEFORE even signing/ agreeing to it...How can he violate something he hasn't agreed to Mr. Stoogarillo.... He can't, you moron. :-*
Retard
For YOU??
Only VIP will do...consider yourself my personal guest
How can he violate something he hasn't agreed to Mr. Stoogarillo.... He can't, you moron. :-*
LOL, your nose is so far up IFBB ass, it's embarrassing to post on the same thread as you. :-[
oh :o :o :o you guys are reading my website...How nice... ;D ;D ;D
You like my section for puppets Boby?
How much you are asking to use your image as a mascot?
You'll need income in months to come bro...your stupidity (ok helped with arrogance) made you give up those hard earned 50 K ...
BTW - I don't accept payments or credit cards...CASH UPFRONT AND FULL AMOUNT...
Actually - sand Ron 5 K directly...no problem at all...
That is IF I accept that agreement - as obviously I didn't...
Nobody Owns me Boby...contrary to you...
I never accepted agreement as written as it is NOT RIGHT.
I have RIGHT to sue IFBB official responsible for my tremendous monetary loss - and Federation wants me to forfeit that right...
I will finish Paul Chua - the way he needs to be finished...
I'm not wearing a thing....you, Milos?
You'l have to excuse this closet homesexual....every post he makes seems to involve talk of thongs, gay trysts, etc...
Bob can have his nose up your ass too for the right price .
How can he violate something he hasn't agreed to Mr. Stoogarillo.... He can't, you moron. :-*
LOL, your nose is so far up IFBB ass, it's embarrassing to post on the same thread as you. :-[
Moral and married...not to mention HYPER-HETEROSEXUAL...not bi, homo...or any of those nasty things you are...
And God knows - his nose is a weapon!
?????
You are telling me you are not wearing a thing and asking what i am wearing????? :o :o :o :o :o
Can you make it little less obvious?
I told you before and I am telling you again - you are NOT my type - you look too much like me - only not as good (of course...well - I wish I can say only not as big...but I can't have poker face with pair of seven's...)
So - officially - stop proposing to me Boby...I am married - you know.
Moral and married...not to mention HYPER-HETEROSEXUAL...not bi, homo...or any of those nasty things you are...
Chick you are a bigger retard then I thought...now you are trying to act like it was Humalin... great backpeddling there buddy.
You are done....you wont recover.
M!
Go for it...
Never been on your site, bro....someone pasted it here, which is where I seen it.
Good luck with that....lets just hope you have the money
LOL...quite the imagination you have there.
As for looking too much alike...what difference does that make? You've fucked yourself many times over...!
READ...you fuckin moron...R E A D.
Quote where I say that...
Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
Is this any way for an IFBB athlete's rep to act?
In what professional environment would anyone with a title and "responsibility"(?) call someone a "retard" in their official capacity?
Milos wins simply by the fact he speaks for no one but himself, yet you are representing an entire organization.
You look foolish.
Gee......I wonder why they would put that in the contract? ::)
I suffered greatly - and everything I said was proven by ifbb official, Paul chua expelled from the IFBB ...and somehow I was ofered to come back IF I don't sue...?
Ok no problem.
How you going to dig yourself out of this one? Hmm?
You are forgetting the Guy who may win the Olympia fucked a grapefruit and posted it on the net, this could also be the guy representing the "sport".
Gee......I wonder why they would put that in the contract? ::)
Chick you are a bigger retard then I thought...now you are trying to act like it was Humalin... great backpeddling there buddy.
You are done....you wont recover.
M!
No shit... Please, please don't sue us... We'll let you back in if you promise not to rape us in court.LOL, and here comes Chick along to tell us how Milos violated something he never agreed to.
what amount will you settle for Milos?
Well, I gave him 10 grand for nice gesture...What else should I consider?He's got a nice hair transplant and sparkly shirts with sweat stains in the pits.... :-\
Help me out here...anything good about bobby?
Well, I gave him 10 grand for nice gesture...What else should I consider?for loss of income? 2 million plus lawyers fees seems fair
Help me out here...anything good about bobby?
So...I'm trying to act like it's Humalin, but you have me quoted as saying HUMALOG?
Thats your proof?
Did you graduate HS?
????
what are you trying to pull here bobby?
Like it is no big deal...
Humalin R was completely different than Humalog...and YES - you probably got Humalin R all day long in pharmacies all over the place - as it didn't need prescription...but humalog is completely another story.
You couldn't possibly get Humalog - and that's why you need to count your money bro...
Expect this post to be glossed over like he never even saw it, much like the way he treats his Mirage Hotel memories.
Mirage Hotel memories???Rumor has it, Bob performed alot of private "guest posings" at the Mirage Hotel in Vegas.
What am i missing here?
Milos, any stories about these two?were they as "close" as it seemed?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247284.0;attach=328508;image)
Mirage Hotel memories???Bob Chick, Room 7 next to the ice machine, Mirage Hotel......private "guestposing"....disgusting images.......can't go on. :-X
What am i missing here?
????
what are you trying to pull here bobby?
Like it is no big deal...
Humalin R was completely different than Humalog...and YES - you probably got Humalin R all day long in pharmacies all over the place - as it didn't need prescription...but humalog is completely another story.
You couldn't possibly get Humalog - and that's why you need to count your money bro...
Rumor has it, Bob performed alot of private "guest posings" at the Mirage Hotel in Vegas.
(http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/nevada/las-vegas/images/s/mirage.jpg)
Really?
Well, just because his boyfriend is gay - doesn't mean he is too... :-\ or... :-[... :'(
I realize they are two different things...as I stated...I had BOTH, and didn't have a script for either.
Cant get any plainer than that.
This retard Topskin69 cant seem to figure that out...
Oh sh...oes...
It is 4:15 and I took a day-off to do important paperwork...
And as usual - I said ok...i'll just check for a minute what's up on getbig board...and six hours later - I am still checking what's up...
Sayonara people...and thank you for making me CASH...
I love you guys...Free snake oil in my gym - anytime!
Just mention Bob, the puppet sent me for Humalog - and you get free Cobra bite...or whatever...
out
Ok no problem.
How you going to dig yourself out of this one? Hmm?
Still waiting for your reply...
Still waiting for yours...
Already answered....whatever you want to wage is fine with me
Well - I won the bet - fair and square...
In State of California there was NO WAY IN A WORLD you could have purchase HUMALOG in pharmacy - without prescription.
ONE MILLION PERCENT.
So...35 K to me
5 K to Ron
and keep 10 K for new hair transplant or balls...whatever does the jiggle for you...it's your money (my gift to you)
There sure is a way...but if you insist on continuing on, so be it.
Once again...I'm not disputing the law.
Once again IF you are not disputing the law - you admit I won the bet - therefore I expect immediate payment...
what amount will you settle for Milos?
Your contention is that I did not walk into a pharmacy and purchase humalog without a script....I say I did.
What the law is, is irrelevant to the bet.
Paypal will do fine, thank you.
Well, on the second thought - Boby could send me his framed balls (magnifying glass highly recommended - to make them visible to naked eye) and I'll take off another $200 bucks...Fair enough?
Don't say i am not generous - you can get raisins in the same store he got humalog without prescription - 3 times the size of his family jewels...for buck fifty per ounce (17 times the weight of Bobiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss sss)
YES, I SAID EXACTLY THIS...BUT THIS BET IS MORE THAT THAT... ;)
Trying to forget?
Ahhh yes, the hair thing.
Bet still stands
Feel free to call Sy Sperling to verify...
Ahhh yes, the hair thing.
Bet still stands
Feel free to call Sy Sperling to verify...
Really?
Well, just because his boyfriend is gay - doesn't mean he is too... :-\ or... :-[... :'(
Chick, it has to make you feel awfully important when people try so very hard to prove you wrong.
Ahhh yes, the hair thing.
Bet still stands
Feel free to call Sy Sperling to verify...
And yes - I am going to DISNEYLAND...(every other week -just about...)
Not hair thing...your hair transplant is your pride and joy - has nothing to do with our bet...hahahahaaa ;D
I am talking YOU putting your foot in your mouth claiming you could get Humalog in any pharmacy - genius - educate yourself...post - on which I RESPONDED...
So, burden of proof is on you this time...sounds FAMILIAR Bobby?
It is your thing to prove something - considering there is a LAW in US that makes your claim as FALSE as can be...
PAY UP LOSER...You are wasting my time...
Disneyland is awesome. I was talking about that earlier today.
When Bobby pays - I am inviting you and your family - it is Mickey Mouse time on me (with Pinocchio's money)
Not hair thing...your hair transplant is your pride and joy - has nothing to do with our bet...
I am talking YOU putting your foot in your mouth claiming you could get Humalog in any pharmacy - genius - educate yourself...post - on which I RESPONDED...
So, burden of proof is on you this time...sounds FAMILIAR Bobby?
It is your thing to prove something - considering there is a LAW in US that makes your claim as FALSE as can be...
PAY UP LOSER...You are wasting my time...
Milos, any plans on doing a seminar at Disneyland in the near future? Maybe in "Tomorrow land"? ;D
So you're admitting that someone at a pharmacy illegally sold you drugs without a perscription? And you expect people to believe you when you claim you had a script for all the steroids you stuck in your ass over the years?? hahahahhaaaaa you retard. ;D
Once again...you don't even realize the terms of the bet...I never claimed to be able to walk into ANY pharmacy and get Humalog without script.
I claimed to walk into A pharmacy and get it without a script....right from the start. I suggest you check the posts and what I wrote very carefully before parting you with money you need
May want to educate yourself...
So you're admitting that someone at a pharmacy illegally sold you drugs without a perscription? And you expect people to believe you when you claim you had a script for all the steroids you stuck in your ass over the years?? hahahahhaaaaa you retard. ;D
Once again...you don't even realize the terms of the bet...I never claimed to be able to walk into ANY pharmacy and get Humalog without script.
I claimed to walk into A pharmacy and get it without a script....right from the start. I suggest you check the posts and what I wrote very carefully before parting you with money you need
May want to educate yourself...
Ron, please don't delete this thread ... it's a highly interesting debate between two top known Pro's ..... and now betting money is at stake.
This is what makes Getbig the most read Forum on the Internet! Gotta love it!
No, no, no , no...I am letting you have it your way (even though we all know what was this all about - you were telling "genius" to educate himself as you wanted to say that anyone could go to any pharmacy and get Humalog without Rx...) but I'll let you have it your way - A PHARMACY...
So, lets go to A pharmacy and see what you are saying...
Monday works for you?
Bring cash or gloves...Rather both (and double the money...I already have a line from my favorite movie "gladiator" - asking the audience: Are you entertained?)
I am practicing...to sound more like a man (oh well - nobody's perfect) and to loose my accent...
;D
How about a duel to the death?
The dispute is what I did when I used it for a show, some 6 years ago. Don't need it monday, didn't need it yesterday.
Are you backing out already?
How about a duel to the death?
Seems to me this bet is going to end in a draw, as it is obvious that the two participants are betting on two different things, it would seem.
Hey Grant,
r u going to be in cage as a judge?
I saw you practicing...so I am sure you'll know when to tell me to stop... ;)
Seems to me this bet is going to end in a draw, as it is obvious that the two participants are betting on two different things, it would seem.
Oh heck no, Milos! I'm just still learning and certainly in no position to referee you guys!If Grant won't ref Milos, I will!!! :D
Guys as big as you two need big Herb Dean, or John McCartney, in the ring to referee! But let's hope it doesn't come to that! When this debate is over I am sure you will both enjoy an ice cold beer with one another! I'll even join you!
(Interesting debate though!)
Bobby - death is my middle name - where do I sign?
I'll have Ron decide with finger up (live) or down (die) - as you wish...
But no - I have never back-down in my life - what do you refer to backing already?
It could be 6 years ago or today...doesn't matter.
Humalog was never...and I'll repeat - NEVER available without prescription here in States - and who would know this better than me - putting hundreds (if not thousands) on program?
I dont have to admit shit....spend your time guessing
If Grant won't ref Milos, I will!!! :D
No, we know what we were betting - but I would let chicken-shit be chicken-shit and accept his changed terms of the bet - he still needs to find ONE pharmacy that illegally distributed Humalog...which we all know it is not the case...
Dumbfuck Bobby simply forgot that he was Chad's insulin follower (maybe George's too...) and they used Humulin R at the time (as that's what I advised Chad back in 1995-1996...as Humalog was just not yet available...)
So Bobby simply forgot the fact and included Humalog that he was getting from separate source - like everyone else...
Problem is - he forgot that I brought insulin and especially hUMALOG into the bodybuilding and that just about everyone went to me for advice...
That's fine old friend.... but then YOU have to buy the ice cold's afterwards!Not a problem, buddy, cold ones on me. 8)
Not sure you're getting it....we all know it's not available without percription, 6 years ago, or today.
Thats not at issue.
I'm saying DESPITE that fact, that I was able to obtain it from a pharmacy in LA, without one...
Good God....maybe someone else can explain it to MIlos
If Grant won't ref Milos, I will!!! :D
No you didn't.
DESPITE the fact that you are trying to get out believing that we could consider ONE pharmacy was different - IT WASN'T.
I know very well situation in Venice and around the California (US and world wide for that matter)...and now you are trying to escape with pharmacy A...
We'll go to pharmacy A, B, C and D if we have to Bobby...and you'll get the same answer - so pay up or accept the fight (and loose double ;))
Good God - you can't?Chick is claiming he had a connections to get drugs illegally at a pharmacy, so he did not need a perscription, because he was breaking the law when he obtained drugs from a pharmacist that sold them to Chick illegally. :)
Need help Pinocchio...?
hahaha
At a loss to dumb it down any more simple.
Go to all the pharmacys you want....
I came in kind of late. WTF are they arguing about?
At a loss to dumb it down any more simple.
Go to all the pharmacys you want....
No - you'll take me to YOUR pharmacy that can save you from loosing 35 K.
You officially accepted - and I saved copy for my records.
Still aint smart enough to understand?
My claim is from 6 years ago...if you believe going there tomorrow will give some sort of answer, then you REALLY dont get it.
Still aint smart enough to understand?As the one that made the claim, Chickerdildo, the burden of proof is on you.
My claim is from 6 years ago...if you believe going there tomorrow will give some sort of answer, then you REALLY dont get it.
Still aint smart enough to understand?
My claim is from 6 years ago...if you believe going there tomorrow will give some sort of answer, then you REALLY dont get it.
No, you will not get away with 6 years ago - as 6 years ago or now - rules were the same...and you need to provide EVIDENCE - like I did - and as I didn't I got suspended.
R you suggesting that other illegal things you could get 6 years ago somewhere in Cali?
One would think you would know the terms of the bet BEFORE making it....
Already said, I'll gladly take a polygraph...not sure what other proof there could be.
And that concludes todays show.Oh no stay here I wanna see how this Soap Opera ends......Bob vs Milos Bob's winning so far!!!!
See you next time on "make another asshole on arrogant prick - with ease and class...bad breath and accent included"
Oh no stay here I wanna see how this Soap Opera ends......Bob vs Milos Bob's winning so far!!!!
Just to help Milos out here. Bob made a very loose bet but he still loses. Of course, to him he won. This is the sort of dude you appoint to pro athlete's rep because he is self-congratulating, has little integrity but needs to feel important.So....which arse are you kissing?
Bob is full of 'alternative' motives. I think Milos meant ulterior motives but it is the same thing.
The lesson learned here is to just keep saying the same thing and some people will believe you. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, just swear you are innocent of all charges and that the other party is wrong.
Just to help Milos out here. Bob made a very loose bet but he still loses. Of course, to him he won. This is the sort of dude you appoint to pro athlete's rep because he is self-congratulating, has little integrity but needs to feel important.
Bob is full of 'alternative' motives. I think Milos meant ulterior motives but it is the same thing.
The lesson learned here is to just keep saying the same thing and some people will believe you. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, just swear you are innocent of all charges and that the other party is wrong.
thx Vince...May change the subject but do you stay in touch with my former 90's God Mother Diana Dennis?
Well "ulterior" is more like hidden...and alternative - another possibility...so you could use both - for the sake of argument...But, who knows Bob better than you?
That's fine old friend.... but then YOU have to buy the ice cold's afterwards!
As the one that made the claim, Chickerdildo, the burden of proof is on you.
Prove you could go into a pharmacy 6 years ago and get it or pay Milos the $$ you owe him.
here's a little story about me.
as a 16 year old, i just loved to drink beer. but since our local high school drunk (he was irish, go figure), got his fake id taken away, we were dry.
so what did i do? i went to every single liquor store in the area, must've gone to about 30 in 4-5 towns.
i got denied at 28 of them.
get my point?
Bob is an expert in negotiating the sordid drug culture of modern professional bodybuilding. The insiders know where to get supplies and it is business as usual.
Chick joins Goodrum as internet legends who can bullshit all day long.
As pro athletes rep he should be doing everything he can to clean up his sport. He shouldn't participate in clandestine activities re the acquisition of sufficient chemicals to prepare for musclehead competitions.
The fact that he acquired insulin shows where bodybuilding has gone. Oh wait, he didn't admit he used it, just was able to walk into a drug store and get it over the counter with no prescription.
Guys like YOU should have been trying to clean it up decades ago...instead, you were just like the rest, Basile...standing high upon your soapbox teling everyone else what they should be doing, while taking steroids yourself.
The ONLY reason the guys of yesteryear didn't take what they have today...is that it wasn't invented yet.
We didn't start the fire...
You actually bring up a good point here Chick. This is a much better line of reasoning then just trying to pretend like your hands aren't dirty. After all...I think most rational people will admit that the current drug laws are absurd, and that there is nothing morally wrong with personal use of any substance, as long as that use doesn't wind up infringing upon the rights of another citizen.
Your problem Chick is that you keep lying to us, when only a teenager or buffoon would not know any better. Man up...admit what role drugs play in the IFBB, admit that one has to break the law, (in the U.S. anyway) to be a successfull bodybuilder, and just be forward about things related to these issues.
Thats all this is really about...just have enough integrity to speak the truth.
MY problem?
What would that be, exactly? How is this a problem for me?
Seems to me YOU'RE the one with a problem...
So you are really going to say with a straight face...that not being truthful, and basically being a bullshit artist, is an admirable quality. Does anyone else see the problem here? Are you serious?
Let this show for the record...the ATHELETS REP has no problem being a liar...and does not place much value on integrity. Some rep they have....
You Chick...are a douchebag...plain and simple..and if I ever see you again, I will be more then happy to personally remind you of such.
Feel free....toughguy
Feel free....toughguy
Answer the question hero...you don't find a conflict of interest in being an "Athletes Rep," and a paid spokesperson, and not having placing any value in concepts like integrity, honesty, or loyalty.
Please tell me where somehow you aren't a complete joke? ???
I don't place any value on those things because I don't answer to YOU? LOL
Guys like YOU should have been trying to clean it up decades ago...instead, you were just like the rest, Basile...standing high upon your soapbox teling everyone else what they should be doing, while taking steroids yourself.
The ONLY reason the guys of yesteryear didn't take what they have today...is that it wasn't invented yet.
We didn't start the fire...
Anyway, just so I'm clear as to the new turn this glorious thread has taken, we should be taking Humalog and not Humulin, right?
here's a little story about me.
as a 16 year old, i just loved to drink beer. but since our local high school drunk (he was irish, go figure), got his fake id taken away, we were dry.
so what did i do? i went to every single liquor store in the area, must've gone to about 30 in 4-5 towns.
i got denied at 28 of them.
get my point?
Guys like YOU should have been trying to clean it up decades ago...instead, you were just like the rest, Basile...standing high upon your soapbox teling everyone else what they should be doing, while taking steroids yourself.
The ONLY reason the guys of yesteryear didn't take what they have today...is that it wasn't invented yet.
We didn't start the fire...
Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
Fine...but you are still caught in your lies..so the facts speak for themselves...you are the kind of guy that would rat his friend out for a better sentence or the kind of person that wouldn't back up his buddies in a fight... you are garbage.
Ok Bob, so you get all arrogant with the user who said that you can't buy humalog in california.
YET NOW, you claim it was only 1 time (in other words you had luck ?), and that you couldn't buy humalog without a prescription right now
so why be arrogant with the guy asking the question then.
or thisr u still husky ? lol
or this
r u still husky ? lol
MY problem?
What would that be, exactly? How is this a problem for me?
Well - back in 1993 or 94 ( ???) I accidentally run into my all time favorite bodybuilder - Frank Zane in Florida...We were both at Galaxy contest I believe...Milos I don`t uderstand why so many gurus in the industry keep saying that INSULIN IS NOT NEEDED,only make you fat etc...From what I unterstood you GH and INSULIN revolutionazed bodybuilding in MASS aspect (if am correct??)...
Anyway - I asked Frank if Bob is full of...
Sorry. Drugs having delayed reaction...
Anyway, I asked Frank if Bob... >:( Bobby - get outa my head for a love of God...
Anyway - this time seriously:
I told Frank - I am sure that you guys would have looked so much different (meaning better or I'll stay corrected - only BIGGER not better as I think they were better OVERAL...) if you had knowledge and everything we have TODAY...
He looked at me and smile...without saying the word...
So, I asked: Frank - do I have something between my teeth?
My arms look like Bobby's legs...What is it?
OK - that is just for added entertainment - as you could have guessed...
He smiled and said: Milos, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT WE DIDN'T??
And I asked: GH?
yep!Prescription free Humalog?
Insulin?
yep!
And that did surprise hell out of me...but IF Frank said it -I'll believe it...even though I like to say I brought CORRECT USAGE of insulin into bodybuilding... ;)
You know - HUMALOG, exact exogenous insulin of my choice WAS/IS the only kind of insulin that you need Prescription for!!!
Always had - and still do... ;)
Milos I don`t uderstand why so many gurus in the industry keep saying that INSULIN IS NOT NEEDED,only make you fat etc...From what I unterstood you GH and INSULIN revolutionazed bodybuilding in MASS aspect (if am correct??)...
Actually, most people would say that lying is indeed a problem...
ALL professional BB break the law. This is 100% truth, and there is no way around it.
It's not illegal to use steroids in many countries.
This may be true, BUT how many top tier Thai or pakistani IFBB pros do compete ar the O, and how many are americans, or europeans??who gives a shit about Thai or Paki IFBB Pro's LOL get real ::)
who gives a shit about Thai or Paki IFBB Pro's LOL get real ::)
It's not illegal to use steroids in many countries.
Yes, when Yates was in the states he didn't take any illegal drugs, steroids, diuretics, whatever.
They all break the law at some point. There's no way around it. Even the prescriptions are suspect and could be illegal. Otherwise there would've been no reason for cops to interview Ronnie Coleman due to finding his name in the HRT clinic lists. It's a very gray area.
This may be true, BUT how many top tier Thai or pakistani IFBB pros do compete ar the O, and how many are americans, or europeans??
spot on.
Also, even IF steroids are legal, all BB also take stuff that is illegal, may it be certain steroids aren't fabricated anymore, or not for human use etc etc.
Fukcing classic GetBig thread...how did I miss it.
Fukcing classic GetBig thread...how did I miss it.
Milos I don`t uderstand why so many gurus in the industry keep saying that INSULIN IS NOT NEEDED,only make you fat etc...From what I unterstood you GH and INSULIN revolutionazed bodybuilding in MASS aspect (if am correct??)...
Milos, do you think Tom Prince was being truthful when he said he never ever used any insulin, except one single time, a 10 unit shot at the start of carb loading?
Kind of sounds like what Chick claims to have done. :D
I think Chick just mixed up the names of the insulins, since like you say, those guys used the "R".
Last time I checked - INSULIN IS THE MOST ANABOLIC HORMONE in our body...Storage hormone that inserts nutrients (glucose, amino acids) into the cells... ::)I HOPE U DO MAKE IT BACK,ITS LIKE U NEVER LEFT LOL,U DEF IN MY EYES HAD THE BUILD THAT I PREFERED.
You want ANABOLISM - you want to know how to control INSULIN...
Yes - it could make you fat - IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING...
And it can make you OVERNIGHT BODYBUILDING SENSATION...
It can be your best friend or your worst enemy...and because I mastered this subject - I have instructed dozens of pros, hundreds of amateurs and probably thousands of people in last 16 years...
You seem to be spending a lot of time talking about my balls...
I'd love to see you compete again, Milos. I never liked what the IFBB did to you regarding that piece of garbage Paul Chua! I really believe that was very bad political judgement by the IFBB .... and now .....years later they admit too that Chua is a piece of sh*t and so they suspend him??
Best of luck to you, old friend, if you decide on a comeback! I was always a fan of your physique. But don't let competing come in the way of you and your family (Milamar and your little girl).... we all know that's just not worth it.
Chick is an awesome role model.
Thank you Grant...
As you know about Chua - I'll tell you this much.
My "cry for help" to Federations leaders left me suspended...but ONE GUY listened...He is Polish IFBB judge and official who is athletes representative...and he knew that honorable guy who has nothing to gain and everything to loose by stating the facts as he saw it (that would be me) - might be telling the truth...so he investigated and learned that everything I said was truth.
He disclosed information to IFBB and Chua is now suspended...You would think Federation would immediately publicly apologize to me and reinstate me...but they actually didn't...
Go figure...
it's a family trait for mishko
time to un-gay this thread with more pics of Milos' wife...post up Milos!
Milos, do you think Tom Prince was being truthful when he said he never ever used any insulin, except one single time, a 10 unit shot at the start of carb loading?
Kind of sounds like what Chick claims to have done. :D
I think Chick just mixed up the names of the insulins, since like you say, those guys used the "R".
time to un-gay this thread with more pics of Milos' wife...post up Milos!
Damn...
Exactly... ;)
;DMilos you are a luckiy man no matter what Chick says
This is what woman should look like - if you ask me...
What professional FIGURE competitor should be molded into...
Milos you are a luckiy man no matter what Chick says
Yet, my poor wife was placed in just about every show based on her last name...and not based on her look...Corruption ;)
Milos you are a luckiy man no matter what Chick says
I've never said a word about his wife, and have been nothing but cordial when seeing her.
Yes, I must say that...Bob is always a gentleman when ladies are around...LOL :D
Milos is the bet still on with Chick?
Yes, I must say that...Bob is always a gentleman whenladiesmen are around...
;D
This is what woman should look like - if you ask me...
What professional FIGURE competitor should be molded into...
You mean bet I won 50 grand from Chick...Which 10% goes to GETBIG, 20% I gave back to Bobby - for I don't remember exactly what (he did something nice - so I awarded him for kindness) and the rest is going to my daughters college fund...Nice job man seems Chick has disappeared again ???
35 grand for days work...NOT BAD ;)
She's also an amazing pleasant person too.
You definitely are a lucky guy.
Nice job man seems Chick has disappeared again ???
Chick could be in the sauna right now off limits ;D
As far as luck goes - as Chris Lund once told me - if it wasn't for bad luck - I wouldn't know what luck is...
As far as luck goes - as Chris Lund once told me - if it wasn't for bad luck - I wouldn't know what luck is...
LOL
Seriously whats the address to your gym? I'd like to train there one day.
What race is your wife milos?
Milos is a good guy - i PM'd him when i was a skinny dork back in 03 and he replied. Now i am a dork with muscles :)
Milos, when are you at your gym in case I wanted to call you there? No so easy with the differences in time zones between LA and Sydney. It is 7 hours at the moment plus a day.
What race is your wife milos?
Milos is a good guy - i PM'd him when i was a skinny dork back in 03 and he replied. Now i am a dork with muscles :)
Philippine i believe.
Hey man give me some tips to achieve such great abs like yours. Ive done everything and all i got is 2 packs and not the whole 6 pack hah!Remember when Mike Quinn called Milos a iron board with abs?
Come on, just a free advice hehehe
Haven - I am certain.
the moment you can say you placed better than me on stage then talk ,,till then shut your pie hole ,,you are one of the worst liars in history of bodybuildign ,,disgrace to bodybuilding and bodybuilders aroudn the world ,,,you got kicked out ifbb and never be back even if allowed you wont place,,,and i support in your compete and utter dismisal for life,,,any normal ifbb representpr knows you are a risk ,,,you have fellonies on you and misdiminors and alot other crimes that didnt get cought ,,you sit and lie lie lie and then lie more to those poor kids that only want to improve ther body and become bodybuilders,,
sometimes sit in the dark at night when you are nto high on something lay back and think about yourself when you were 16 think about how you woudl react to yoru NONE SENSE MILOS SACREV ,,you were young too one time ,,you are shame ,,,id prefer sitting in jail than lieing lik ethat to thise guys ,,,especially on here!!!! this guys know bodybuilding and will hate you for life for what you do to them ,,,they may kiss ass now but after some time when they beocme the bodybuilder they wanna be they will know who lied and who was truthful
shame on you
gh15 approved
Haven?
i looked that up and it said 'Help Against Violent Encounters Now'
Remember when Mike Quinn called Milos a iron board with abs?
Don't look at your daily dairy or to do list...check Webster...I just did and realized little mistake...I meant Heaven...for Heaven's sake...
Hey man give me some tips to achieve such great abs like yours. Ive done everything and all i got is 2 packs and not the whole 6 pack hah!
Come on, just a free advice hehehe
Yes I do - back in a days when I was iron board with abs... ;)Mike wishes he had your abs. He had a 1 pack in the WBF final show!!!!
Remember when Mike Quinn called Milos a iron board with abs?
Yes I do - back in a days when I was iron board with abs... ;)
Find the woman that would make you want to use your abs...as often as possible...and than some ;)
oh that i can believe. say hi to her for me Mishko. it's rik from Calgary. can't wait to see you back on stage!!
hehe yes, he was right :)
come on share the routine, or by pm hehe
ha! but i still need a good advice for the gym, and also signed koloseum tshirt of the mind
I know riky - Hey do you have that footage you took of me posing in your gym?
It would be great if you can post it...That was typical off season look for me - so maybe few people here (Bob especially) wouldn't mind seeing...
If I remember correctly I even bent-over once...or twice...
Now, don't confuse that footage with shower scene...That was for your eyes only... ::)
Hanging leg-raises + high pulley cable crunches - two of my favorite exercises BY FAR
It's not illegal to use steroids in many countries.
hanging leg raises, thats a milos sarcev's classic! May i ask if you believe its better to do abs early in the morning right after cardio, than in the afternoon after finishing working out? Also, how about series/reps? Lots or a few hundreds is enough?
Thanks for your time man :)
i sent you a copy of that a couple years ago. i can probably find it again. in three weeks training here you went from a lean 263 lb. to a leaner 278 lb. freaky!! that was your heaviest weight ever, no?
post the vid
Puerto Rico
Milos whats the secret to having ravioli like abs all year long?
GH, Insulin, steroids etc are all legal.
Getting prescriptions isn't difficult.
Milos whats the secret to having ravioli like abs all year long?Milos has mentioned many time's now that all you have to do is THINK you wont get fat, and you wont!
Oh, I missed this one somehow...?
The moment you introduce yourself pathetic loser is the moment I will be able to say I placed better than YOU on stage - SO go ahead chicken-shit...
Next - find a single felony on my record you scumbag with balls size of Bob Chicks testicular fortitude = microscopic raisins...
And last - go find yourself! ;)
Milos, only a couple of day's ago on your forum you were wishing Dennis Jame's all the best for Tampa and here on getbig you pretend you don't know that gh15 is Dennis so that you can really tell him how you feel?
Please explain because you would be the last person on getbig to figure out that gh15 is Dennis James otherwise.
Hey Milos,
If I came all the way from New Zealand and went to your gym and shook your hand and said "I'm nzmusclemonster from Getbig. One thing we have in common is we both think chaos has a cone head".....
would you give me a free t shirt :)
No, but he would give you a big sports bag you could take for him back to NZ. ;DGive me a good price on those testovirons NZMM :D
Give me a good price on those testovirons NZMM :D
I know riky - Hey do you have that footage you took of me posing in your gym?Hey Milos regard your OFFSEASON look I wanted you to explain me HOW you stay pretty lean in the offseason and always put new mass (I mean when you were competing)...Some athlets like JAY for example stay pretty lean year round too but EVERY YEAR make improvements,gain new MASS...DEXTER stay preety lean (the leanest of them all) but I don`t see him do tremendous improvements(is that the reason cause he doesn`t blow up and he doesn`t allow his body to full grow??)...In the other hand look at PHIL HEATH-he blow up in offseason and get fat but he is also a guy with tremendous improvements from show to show!Let say you work with DENNIS WOLF-on contest day he has 265 pounds ripped to the bone...and then what do you do for him in the offseason?1 week rest after the contest lets say OLYMPIA and then you have for him a gain plan for the next year Olympia,no shows in between...WHAT DO YO DO???rest him 3 months with easy training and eating high amount of protein and only a maintence energy calories (carbs and fat) and then take him 6 months slowly increasing calories day by day lets say every day a 500 calories of surplus (that would be in 6 months 90 000 surplus calories or 28 pounds gained )Now I don`t uderstand what from all that surplus calories would be fat and what or how much of that would be muscle???from what I`ve seen in the videos the most fat gains that bodybuilders have are imideatly after contest when they eat all that they can...and repeat that for a week,get fat...and then start the offseason,eating clean with for example one cheat meal a day...Now Milos it would be great if you can explain a little bit a offseason gain plan for athlets!thanks
It would be great if you can post it...That was typical off season look for me - so maybe few people here (Bob especially) wouldn't mind seeing...
If I remember correctly I even bent-over once...or twice...
Now, don't confuse that footage with shower scene...That was for your eyes only... ::)
You wont get anything for free. I can see it coming ...I mean only about nutrition/calories segment!not about gear!
As Shawn used to say 'I love trannies' errrrm i mean 'buy my training book'
I mean only about nutrition/calories segment!not about gear!
Here is penis taster with no balls talking about testicular fortitude...
I just showed all of you guys what is like HAVING BALLS TO BET not 5 but 50 grand - against moronic puppets...
Check the Webster Dictionary and take a look my family jewels picture next to TESTICULAR FORTITUDE...
Yep - proud owner of the MONSTER BALLS ;)
Knny - our puppet has some homosexual tendencies - ever considered hooking up with Chic...Mirage or elsewhere?
Ah Mishko..still upset about your family values?you talk shit here but in person you wouldn't dare say shit to miloses face
;D
you talk shit here but in person you wouldn't dare say shit to miloses face
not one word like a punk ass bitch ;)
Yup..you don't know me sphincter breath::)
;)
Ah Mishko..still upset about your family values?
;D
Hey Milos regard your OFFSEASON look I wanted you to explain me HOW you stay pretty lean in the offseason and always put new mass (I mean when you were competing)...Some athlets like JAY for example stay pretty lean year round too but EVERY YEAR make improvements,gain new MASS...DEXTER stay preety lean (the leanest of them all) but I don`t see him do tremendous improvements(is that the reason cause he doesn`t blow up and he doesn`t allow his body to full grow??)...In the other hand look at PHIL HEATH-he blow up in offseason and get fat but he is also a guy with tremendous improvements from show to show!Let say you work with DENNIS WOLF-on contest day he has 265 pounds ripped to the bone...and then what do you do for him in the offseason?1 week rest after the contest lets say OLYMPIA and then you have for him a gain plan for the next year Olympia,no shows in between...WHAT DO YO DO???rest him 3 months with easy training and eating high amount of protein and only a maintence energy calories (carbs and fat) and then take him 6 months slowly increasing calories day by day lets say every day a 500 calories of surplus (that would be in 6 months 90 000 surplus calories or 28 pounds gained )Now I don`t uderstand what from all that surplus calories would be fat and what or how much of that would be muscle???from what I`ve seen in the videos the most fat gains that bodybuilders have are imideatly after contest when they eat all that they can...and repeat that for a week,get fat...and then start the offseason,eating clean with for example one cheat meal a day...Now Milos it would be great if you can explain a little bit a offseason gain plan for athlets!thanks
You see - I organized 2 seminars FOR FREE for my getbig fans - but you guys don't show up...and I simply have very limited time to post...Chick probably had something to do this.
I can possibly answer this and any other question later - but WHY would you NOT attend free seminar - when organized?
Milos has mentioned many time's now that all you have to do is THINK you wont get fat, and you wont!
He say's he uses the power of his mind when he is eating a pizza and tell's the fat not to store.
He mention's if you think you will get fat while eating something like pizza, then you will.
It's all in the mind.
The posts he has made on this are on his forum and posted on here recently also.
You gotta be German!! :o :o :o :o
There is no way Dennis is GH15 you guys...
NO H-WAY.....
Besides - i only competed once against DJ, and I did manage to beat him (1999 NOC) so he wouldn't claim that nonsense "when you place ahead of me...blah-blah-blah..."
There are just very few professionals that I competed against that i never managed to beat...Just about every major superstar of IFBB pro circuit I competed against at one point - I managed to beat - with exception of..let's see:
Lee Haney, Lee Labrada, Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Dorian Yates...and that's about it...Well, with exception of my 2003 shows - where I let few more - but I wasn't even suppose to compete at those two shows...
Well, this is partially correct...but you need to know everything else that I consider BEFORE I make statement like this...
Caloric requirement, caloric intake, timing of nutrients, energy demand...BMR, TEF, TEE, RMR, physical activities, substrate utilization, quantity, quality, kind and timing, LBM, BMI,...etc...etc...ALL have to be considered BEFORE making statements that you just posted...
Come to next seminar and I will explain to greatest detail...
There is no way Dennis is GH15 you guys...Lee Haney was a great champion and a good guy he was a judge at a contest I entered - A class dude. Milos the last pic you posted here was tremendous you were a great champion any plans on coming back?
NO H-WAY.....
Besides - i only competed once against DJ, and I did manage to beat him (1999 NOC) so he wouldn't claim that nonsense "when you place ahead of me...blah-blah-blah..."
There are just very few professionals that I competed against that i never managed to beat...Just about every major superstar of IFBB pro circuit I competed against at one point - I managed to beat - with exception of..let's see:
Lee Haney, Lee Labrada, Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Dorian Yates...and that's about it...Well, with exception of my 2003 shows - where I let few more - but I wasn't even suppose to compete at those two shows...
Milos, only a couple of day's ago on your forum you were wishing Dennis Jame's all the best for Tampa and here on getbig you pretend you don't know that gh15 is Dennis so that you can really tell him how you feel?
Please explain because you would be the last person on getbig to figure out that gh15 is Dennis James otherwise.
Sissy - surprise us all and make sense for once...
Upset about my family values?
I am proud of my family values - obviously...so in your wishful thinking world you've been living you might see little different reality than what we have in the real world...
My invitation for you stands - come see me and I'll speak to you as long as you wish...That is - if you have a balls to ever face me... ::)
Milos - out of all your foe's - shawn, bob, nasser etc, who would you say is the biggest wanker of them all? :)
Lee Haney was a great champion and a good guy he was a judge at a contest I entered - A class dude. Milos the last pic you posted here was tremendous you were a great champion any plans on coming back?
I would be better off talking to my dog. He makes better sense & admits thatwhen he's been with a whore.Milos what did you think of Nassers attacks on you on BB.com come I read all the interviews he made you out to be an asshole
Wow, keep going with the same song...?
Didn't you call mother Theresa the same thing?
But, as "cyber shadow" you must feel empowered and speak - like you actually do have some balls...(fortitude...)
So keep singing sissy - and when you man up - come out of that basement and see me... ;)
Milos what did you think of Nassers attacks on you on BB.com come I read all the interviews he made you out to be an asshole
I would be better off talking to my dog. He makes better sense & admits thatwhen he's been with a whore.
Wow, keep going with the same song...?
Didn't you call mother Theresa the same thing?
But, as "cyber shadow" you must feel empowered and speak - like you actually do have some balls...(fortitude...)
So keep singing sissy - and when you man up - come out of that basement and see me... ;)
Cream of the crop... ;D - but Nasser is undisputed champ by far...
If you didn't notice - I described him perfectly by "piece of shit" - literally...
So, think whatever that means and/or represents - and you'll have clone of Nasser and his wonderful personality...
I can tell you that Milos could really retort with some awesome stories, but he's got a little more class than that.
There is no way Dennis is GH15 you guys...
NO H-WAY.....
Besides - i only competed once against DJ, and I did manage to beat him (1999 NOC) so he wouldn't claim that nonsense "when you place ahead of me...blah-blah-blah..."
There are just very few professionals that I competed against that i never managed to beat...Just about every major superstar of IFBB pro circuit I competed against at one point - I managed to beat - with exception of..let's see:
Lee Haney, Lee Labrada, Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Dorian Yates...and that's about it...Well, with exception of my 2003 shows - where I let few more - but I wasn't even suppose to compete at those two shows...
For the record the only man Nasser did not beat (according to judges) was Dorian.Didn't beat him (at least) 3x!
Actually he already attempted to respond with "awesome stories", and it was along the lines of "Yes Nasser did sleep with my wife but she told me he only lasted 17 seconds" lol - I can dig the thread up, but 90% of the replies were like, "wtf you just admitted he slept with your wife?" It was an epic thread backfire for sure. At least if he denied it some people may have believed him.
So you pride yourself on the fact that you were able to beat other pros at their worst showings, lol. For the record the only man Nasser did not beat (according to judges) was Dorian.
forgot how to use the quote feature......idiot?
Actually he already attempted to respond with "awesome stories", and it was along the lines of "Yes Nasser did sleep with my wife but she told me he only lasted 17 seconds" lol - I can dig the thread up, but 90% of the replies were like, "wtf you just admitted he slept with your wife?" It was an epic thread backfire for sure. At least if he denied it some people may have believed him.
So you pride yourself on the fact that you were able to beat other pros at their worst showings, lol. For the record the only man Nasser did not beat (according to judges) was Dorian.
Milos what did you think of Nassers attacks on you on BB.com come I read all the interviews he made you out to be an asshole
Milos I am waiting for your reply at another thread.
He did?
Well - what did he say?
You know - it could be the truth...when hell freezes over or even later...
But, why do you think someone has a need to talk about someone else - publicly - describing him in different light (maybe criticizing) ?
Could it be that I am little too often on his mind?
Wonder why?
Jealousy... ???
Love... ???
I don't know...and to everyone's surprise - I kind-a don't care much...Not even to read his wishful thinking/imagination....
This really cracks meupX2
NONE of these shit talker wouldn't say shit to Milos's face ;)
trust me on that :)
but cyber space creates a lot of tuff guyz
keeny would be a pussy and wouldn't dare even raising his voice
Yes Kyomu, wait in line, his own forum is waiting for his attention first, for quite a while...
Milos, why do you even give these pricks the pleasure....?Brutal editing.
Milos, why do you even give them the pleasure of responding....?
give one reason for ;D
both you and nasser are famous now because you were pro. bbs.. sure milos you were/are a super bodybuilder but i dont think you were anything close to nasser, flex, ronnie... etc..
X2
Brutal editing.
You can throw in epic shitty internet connection on my side as well.;D
X3
All talk and no walk.
here on getbig you say hello - and you get "your mother is whore, go f-yourself cock-sucker f-in moron drug addict/dealer fuck-face...etc...etc...for return...
X4 as I've seen the 2 guys walk the walk....
hey T.U., when do we meet for training and post training firehouse drinks ;D ?
Oh yeah...it is hard to remember...chicken shit...
Come here and you can get $100 if you can call me idiot in person - standing in front of me?
More money than you earn in a month - probably...
Need address?
I already gave two...
As far as Flex - he was my favorite...but I did come close of beating him too...
I was beating Nasser every time BEFORE I HELPED HIM and at the end in 1999 in last two shows we competed against each other...and I have beaten Ronnie - several times...but - what's your point?
Ease up on test and d-bol KY - you sound like impatient juicer...Then you are a bad business man.
Just wait patiently for my replay...it is coming...[you know - I prioritize things that I need to do...] ;)
You see - I organized 2 seminars FOR FREE for my getbig fans - but you guys don't show up...and I simply have very limited time to post...I would love to attend your seminar but am in europe :) Please Milos give not just for me but for all us your answer to this question and the protocol of your offseason prep for athlets...You can do it in a shor way but just answer...
I can possibly answer this and any other question later - but WHY would you NOT attend free seminar - when organized?
I call you an idiot on the computer, in person, or in front of an audience.
I would only be telling the truth....& it hurts...doesn't it mishko?
Then you are a bad business man.
I said that i could bet 30000euros(you are capable to pay it unlike sevas).
I would love to attend your seminar but am in europe :) Please Milos give not just for me but for all us your answer to this question and the protocol of your offseason prep for athlets...You can do it in a shor way but just answer...
Hey Milos, does Flex Lewis still train at your gym?? And how is Kris Dim looking these days?? He's suppose to compete this weekend I believe, correct??
You got my attentionIts simple.
30000 Euros?
Tell me - what's up...
Flex is not in California for quite some time...and Kris is back in contest shape...competing at Europa show in few weeks...
Flex is not in California for quite some time...and Kris is back in contest shape...competing at Europa show in few weeks...
Ouch...it hurts so much to read that some little sissy calls me idiot on the net - I can't even tell you how much...
Why don't you come to see me in person to see for yourself?
Its simple.
I will maintain or improve my physique until we see each other.
Lets make a official paper with a lawyer and notaly.
Just my urine or blood will be tested and it must prove that i am not taking any banned(IOC) substance and supplements(All the supplement).
If the test say positive, I must pay 30000euros+all the cost which are related to this matter.
If the test say negative, you must pay 30000euros+all the cost which are related to this matter.
Get it?
As I said, I did only one and last cycle in 1993 spring and since then I have been keeping on being natural.
If you cant believe it, do this bet.
Because I hate to see a grown man cry
::)
idiot
Deal.
But I would take you to MY IOC LAB - not one you choose to...
They can find traces for 10 years so 1993 is safe - 16 years later... ;)
Problem is going to be when they find shit load of metabolites you should not have as natural - you will blame contamination of nutritional supplements.
Kyomu - did you check IOC list - you moron?
You are right - there are mirrors all over in my gym...but than again - you are not grown man sissy...;D
Shut a fuck up - and show up....
Milamar will kick your ass without my help - I'll put money for that...Have raisins or raisins fortitude?
Seriously, does Kyomu look like he is on anabolic steroids currently (or in any of the pics he's posted) to you?
You don't have to look like you are on anabolic steroids to be juicer...Milos do you like Sushi?
If you ask me - Kyomu doesn't even look like he is a bodybuilder or lifting weights...but he claims he does...
His sushi chef job takes too much time - I guess...
Milos do you like Sushi?
Love it - of courseIts great stuff.
Milamar can kick my ass anyday, I wouldn't mind, lol!Than come on down - you are our next contestant on the price is right!
You don't have to look like you are on anabolic steroids to be juicer...
If you ask me - Kyomu doesn't even look like he is a bodybuilder or lifting weights...but he claims he does...His sushi chef job takes too much time - I guess...
you discredit yourself saying this
Than come on down - you are our next contestant on the price is right!
Free kicking in the ass - hallelujah!
btw- did you see Milamars legs?
And bad news - she knows how to kick...
Monday works for you?
Noon-ish?
You don't have to look like you are on anabolic steroids to be juicer...
Hahaha, a bit of humor I see. That's great. I was just messing with you, she's looks good though. ;)
True, but why do you think he is a juicer then?
Maybe because you know that by associating with pro bodybuilders it's 99.999% likely you're taking something? :D
Deal.I will consult about it.
But I would take you to MY IOC LAB - not one you choose to...
They can find traces for 10 years so 1993 is safe - 16 years later... ;)
Problem is going to be when they find shit load of metabolites you should not have as natural - you will blame contamination of nutritional supplements.
Kyomu - did you check IOC list - you moron?
I will consult about it.
About supps, I havent taken any since May because of my laziness(sometime, i take powder when i want to drink chocolate shake).
The problem is if some substances contains in my foods.
So, why dont we choose only major bbing juicing substances only?
Thats more simple and easy.
Hmm... something strange going on here. Sounds to me like Milos is talking about steroid metabolites. All steroid metabolites are 'major'. And he is saying you'd blame supplements, not food.
Maybe Paco used to sell those "Steromax" nutritional supplements in his gym? :D
Hmm... something strange going on here. Sounds to me like Milos is talking about steroid metabolites. All steroid metabolites are 'major'. And he is saying you'd blame supplements, not food.IOC want to bann everything.
Maybe Paco used to sell those "Steromax" nutritional supplements in his gym? :D
IOC want to bann everything.
So, i heard even todays olympic athletes are eating echological foods to avoid problem.
I dont want to do that.
Thats why i suggest bbing related substance only.
Yes yes, but bodybuilding related substances are what the Olympic athletes are worried about. The US Olympic athletes had to import all their athletes' food to China for the Olympics since tests showed all the meat over there would cause an athlete to test positive for anabolic steroids. I don't know the situation with the meat industry in Spain, or if you eat imported meat or what. All I remember is the clenbuterol tainted livers many years ago in Spain.Hohoho.... You dont know who is Milos... I heard many things about him.. ;)
I don't think Milos is referring to anything other than anabolic steroids. If you're not worried about that then the test is no problem.
Not that this is ever going to happen. Like an internet challenge to a cage match.
I dont even taka supps now.
But hey, who knows?
Maybe there is banned substance in my foods and Milos take my money happily....
Thats why i said we must make a substance list.
Not that of IOC.
you look flat as a pancake. take some supps.Yep. I am flat. 8)
yes very flat in that pic. maybe some carbsThen i am simply small.
small and flat and no lifeHey dont go over that.. :-\ ;D
Yep. I am flat. 8)
like me you have small calves but i am better than you because my quads are small too so my legs are more proportioned ;D.. just kidding, you look great :)Maybe my whole body are overdeveloped against calves. ;D
you look flat as a pancake. take some supps.
Supp and pancake in oneThey taste good and look good.
(http://www.med24.dk/images/protein_pancakes.gif)
You are right - there are mirrors all over in my gym...but than again - you are not grown man sissy...
Shut a fuck up - and show up....
Milamar will kick your ass without my help - I'll put money for that...Have raisins or raisins fortitude?
in any language it's "Shut the fuck up".....dumbass ::)
In thailand....they're called ladyboys. Never knew anyone married one....well....until you. ;)
You seem very knowledgeable about trannies.
You live in Cali. Why don't you shut up Milos personally you vicious little pussy? Let's see you wife/gf in a bikini. You can block out the face. That's assuming you've ever gotten a real girl.
Seems like you're the one who knows what a ladyboy is. ;D
Brutal come back. "I know you are but what am I?"
No wonder Milos is schooling you like a little school girl. In this thread you've quickly established yourself as a whiny little pussy.
I will consult about it.
About supps, I havent taken any since May because of my laziness(sometime, i take powder when i want to drink chocolate shake).
The problem is if some substances contains in my foods.
So, why dont we choose only major bbing juicing substances only?
Thats more simple and easy.
Then i am simply small.
They taste good and look good.
However, i dont believe in supps...
I thought so - sissy... ;)What do you mean exactly?
Let me break it to you: you ARE simply small.. ;) but your ego is enormous :-XYeah, but maybe way bigger than your natural state. ;) ;D
You should...Yeah, I dont lift pink dumbells. ;)
Also - you should believe in lifting weights... ;)
Yeah, I dont lift pink dumbells. ;)
in any language it's "Shut the fuck up".....dumbass ::)
In thailand....they're called ladyboys. Never knew anyone married one....well....until you. ;)
How deep would you say these squats were? I'd say they are quite a bit ABOVE parallel.
How deep would you say these squats were? I'd say they are quite a bit ABOVE parallel.
How deep would you say these squats were? I'd say they are quite a bit ABOVE parallel.Yet, my legs grow. ;)
Yeah, but maybe way bigger than your natural state. ;) ;D
My ego? I am not proud of myself nor hate myself. Cus i dont exist like you......Hehe, Its too dificult for you hah? ;D
Regardless of what anyone thinks of Milos, attacking his wife shows a real lack of decorum. To each his own, but I think she's very attractive.
I never understood the whole "attacking a mans family" angle on the internet.
Not only is it chickenshit, it's also just not very funny.
The irony is that most of the people knocking Milimar would piss in their pants if a woman like her was to walk within 20 feet of them.
Cus-cus...I thought you eat that?Not a single one? Hahahahahahahahahahahaaa aa!!! Crazy as usual. ;D
I must say - I am impressed that you speak several languages (probably NOT a single one you speak academically - but nevertheless I'll give you props for that...) but I have no idea what you tried to say here...so translation would be nice...
Regardless of what anyone thinks of Milos, attacking his wife shows a real lack of decorum. To each his own, but I think she's very attractive.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=286053.0;attach=333430;image)
You have great taste in women...To me Milamar is by far the sexiest woman on Earth...BY FAR!
Now, you can imagine a photoshoot in my gym...after-hours...like this one...?
Yet, my legs grow. ;)
I told Paco that some people commented like you.
And Paco was laughing and saying "Why dont those guys post their squat?" ;D
Kyomu, I'm not a hater here. I was just asking since people judge their squat depths very differently, which is why any squat poundage claim you haven't seen yourself doesn't matter much. A 5-10cm difference in depth can mean a difference of 100lbs in poundage in one person.
I actually said in another thread that I only do very deep squats yet my quads are very small, and if I wanted to grow my legs I'd do less deep squats and lots of fairly short range leg presses.
Not a single one? Hahahahahahahahahahahaaa aa!!! Crazy as usual. ;D
You begin to say many non-sence stuffs. So i take it as a sign of owning you. ;)
Or you prefer competing against me?
I'll double your weight or reps (or both?)...
Yet, my legs grow. ;)
I told Paco that some people commented like you.
And Paco was laughing and saying "Why dont those guys post their squat?" ;D
omg lol
kyomo yu should be able to best him in that?
You would think... ;)
In any language? Don't think so - moron...
My bad - don't shut A fuck up...instead shut the fuck up, you fucking low life with no balls...
I see you know where to find your kind...Thailand you say?
I just love my "ladyboy" more than anything...exactly the way she is... ;) [Besides, you are right - she is bigger man than you ;)]
Can never get enough of her...Wonder why?
I never understood the whole "attacking a mans family" angle on the internet.
Not only is it chickenshit, it's also just not very funny.
Van Bilderass - just curious....why do you do deeper squats if you find them less effective for growth?
And what do you think is the optimal ROM of leg presses for overall development?
Oh yeah - judgment of "owning" and "meltdown" usually coming from a boxer who "won" by punching the opponent's right fist with his left (open?) eye...WTF is BOZO?.......craziness as usual...
NOT A SINGLE ONE! Wasabi - BOZO with soy sauce on the side...
Seeing this I'll give you another challenge.
My wife Milamar is going to beat you in squats - weight, reps...doesn't matter...
Or you prefer competing against me?
I'll double your weight or reps (or both?) - but deep "ass to the grass" kind of squats - you desperately need...
And one more look on Milamar's legs before you jump...
kymo should be able to do a few reps with 150kg ATG I think, you can do 300kg for reps? at This point in your life? Im not calling you old stud ;DWahahahhahahahhahahhahhahahha!!!
Well, less worthy men find amusing calling female part of someone's family (mother, sister, wife, cousin, daughter...) derogatory names in absence of class, balls, honor...and many other things they would desperately need crossing into the real world (from their cyber underworld they wear their superman costumes ...)
It is pathetic to say the least...
kymo should be able to do a few reps with 150kg ATG I think, you can do 300kg for reps? at This point in your life? Im not calling you old stud ;D
Just don't tell that to Kyomu...he did only 120...and not a single one bellow parallel - but when you do think about 150 or 160 times two...equals 300 pounds or 320...no big deal...Oh, you noticed: Kilos?...never mind...I did 130kg asshole.
Because I'm mostly just trying to increase my deadlift and do them as an accessory lift. Mostly paused for 1-2 seconds since the deadlift starts from a dead stop.
I think best depth has to do with structure. Deep worked great for Platz since he sat up very straight. I think my back, hams, and glutes take over the lift due to flexibility issues. Front squats would be the best form for growth for me probably.
My form looks a bit like this. The best deadlifter ever (IMO) squatting 660lbs. Relatively small quads.
I did 130kg asshole.
I did six reps 220kg ass to the floor style before.
I did 130kg asshole.
I did six reps 220kg ass to the floor style before.
Because I'm mostly just trying to increase my deadlift and do them as an accessory lift. Mostly paused for 1-2 seconds since the deadlift starts from a dead stop.
I think best depth has to do with structure. Deep worked great for Platz since he sat up very straight. I think my back, hams, and glutes take over the lift due to flexibility issues. Front squats would be the best form for growth for me probably.
My form looks a bit like this. The best deadlifter ever (IMO) squatting 660lbs. Relatively small quads.
I never really did angled leg presses. Never felt I could get a good range of motion. Didn't feel good overall.
Paco's legs are insane...but your's are...hmmmmm...I'll be nice and pass on comment...Your legs are tooth picks and smooth gay as hell in front of Pacos freaky legs.
But, on that pic - is that one hardly visible line a muscle separation or just dirt?
It is kind of hard to tell...
Legs should maybe look like this:
I suppose you have pretty long arms and a relatively short torso ?
I suppose you have pretty long arms and a relatively short torso ?
WTF is BOZO?.......craziness as usual...
I used to do ass to the floor squat until Paco prohibit me to do it.
You just film your wife doing the squat and i will do same form and do way more reps than your wife .
And I post it on youtube.
And you will challenge me?Oh forget about it. Your blood is made of chemical. I wont compete against doped athlete of all his life.
And another owning.I feel sorry for you madman.
Kyomu, I'm not a hater here. I was just asking since people judge their squat depths very differently, which is why any squat poundage claim you haven't seen yourself doesn't matter much. A 5-10cm difference in depth can mean a difference of 100lbs in poundage in one person.Telling the truth, I didnt make this video to impress you guys with my weight.
I actually said in another thread that I only do very deep squats yet my quads are very small, and if I wanted to grow my legs I'd do less deep squats and lots of fairly short range leg presses.
I did 130kg asshole.
I did six reps 220kg ass to the floor style before.
BOZO is clown...just like you...You don't even need a make up or fake red nose...You just need to stand in front of the audience and tell us your autobiography, opinions and views on life...end that would be sufficient - for mental institution professionals to pick you up and "save the Planet"...Wow you are threatening me? ;D What a infantile guy. You are showing yourself how infantile you are.
When I post my wife doing 3 plates (315lbs) reps - you will comment "fake weights" - so you must be here to use SAME plates... ;)
When you come - we'll test your and my blood in UCLA - Olympic Lab... ;)
And yet another punch - this time with the top of your chin straight into my left fist (uppercut this time...) [BTW - I'll call the punches you can't defend in advance - give you some time to "practice"...]
I don't know really. I could send you a recent deadlift video if you don't post it here. :D
Someone like you mishko....how could you forget the word spineless?
How could I forget calling you spineless piece of shit on top of everything else I already called you?
Well, it is word that also describes you perfectly - so I'll just add to my "repertoire" and give you that well deserved title...
Go home little boy. Mama sissy? [...translation from babies language: need breastfeeding mom!]
Wow you are threatening me? ;D What a infantile guy. You are showing yourself how infantile you are.
I am really sorry for you my friend... :'(
OK,Post it. But never fail to do it. Thats 140kg
I will make a thread about it.
That is all you can do: thread...Sorry, I have hair and they are not white like you old man ;D
Make some muscles, sense, friends, money...Just couple of ideas Dambo...with clown face, Bambi calves and...let me give you one compliment for happy sunday: well - nice haircut...What, you are hair-less? Well...nice premature balding "natural"...[ever wonder why you are loosing hair since you are NOT taking your supplements?]
Well...nice premature balding "natural"...[ever wonder why you are loosing hair since you are NOT taking your supplements?]
You need a translater for sarcasm because you're getting your ass owned & have no friggen clue.
You need a translater for sarcasm because you're getting your ass owned & have no friggen clue.
Milos = gh15
You need trans (as your more than obvious sexual preference glorifies transvestites) sooner rather than later...
Oh...I see...my ass is owned while I don't see sarcasm...you say ;D .
Care to step into the real world and whisper whatever clue I need to get into my ear?
I'll bent over so you don't have to step on the chair little boy...I desperately need you to "point out" to me sarcasm that I missed... ::)
I don't think so, bitch. Many may have some disagreements with Milos but nobody supports your cowardly attacks on him. You're within driving distance, ####. And Milos has given you an open invitation. You conveniently ignore the challenge. You're a talker. Milos is willing to back it up with more than just words. You are not acting like a man.
It is you, homo, that is getting owned but have no clue. Please go away. You've disgraced yourself and nobody respects a smack talking coward.
I don't think so, bitch. Many may have some disagreements with Milos but nobody supports your cowardly attacks on him. You're within driving distance, ####. And Milos has given you an open invitation. You conveniently ignore the challenge. You're a talker. Milos is willing to back it up with more than just words. You are not acting like a man.
It is you, homo, that is getting owned but have no clue. Please go away. You've disgraced yourself and nobody respects a smack talking coward.
Oh God...you got me...
I always wanted to be just like my friend gh15, pro for 3 months, with no kidneys, impotent, probably in prison...or high security psychiatric establishment...You got me!
Driving distance you say...?
Well, anyone has the address?
I'll bring video recorder to record our meeting - exclusively for getbig...
shit....I will go on record saying even mishko makes more sense than your dumbass
Your comprehension skills have proved wanting.
Coward, no honor, not a man.
Even when "the great" Squadfather was talking shit about people's family ::) he tried to be somewhat funny about it.
in the world of the internet...who cares dipshit
;D
not get a life nut hugger
;)
Since you are the one who is obsessed with Milos and his wife perhaps it is you that should get a life -- and maybe an education. Read a book or something.
Milos is waiting for you coward.
stupidest thread ever on getbig?
he has 187 in his name and a Rotweiller in his avatar---that makes him extra scary ::) ::)
yup!
you are a worse case than me on this board, and thats pretty frightening. I have an excuse with mental illness issues, you seem to just be a tool
shit....I will go on record saying even mishko makes more sense than your dumbass
you are a worse case than me on this board, and thats pretty frightening. I have an excuse with mental illness issues, you seem to just be a tool
he made perfect sence you faceless coward
Re-read.....thanks tool
haha i remember you , you had some beef with 240 in beginning, you sounded like 16 year ol back then, still didnt post a pic?
Some of the internet tough guys need to man up! If I lived near Milos and he challenged me to try out lift Milamar in the squat, I'd do it, why not? Hell, it would give me a chance to meet them both and would just be for fun, anyway.
That is all you can do: thread...Milos was a great champion his legs were tremendous as you see by his photos. Kyomu looks good for natural, legs are good but smooth also has Asian genetics for legs most Asians have good legs. We are lucky to have Milos here most pros dont have the balls to post here and take criticism from everyone. ;)
Make some muscles, sense, friends, money...Just couple of ideas Dambo...with clown face, Bambi calves and...let me give you one compliment for happy sunday: well - nice haircut...What, you are hair-less? Well...nice premature balding "natural"...[ever wonder why you are loosing hair since you are NOT taking your supplements?]
isnt knny187 the guy who flew flower down to see him and she went and banged a totally different guy? geezus,...thats badLMAO, I forgot about that, I think she ended up sitting on Geo's lap. ;D
isnt knny187 the guy who flew flower down to see him and she went and banged a totally different guy? geezus,...thats bad
Hey Milos, do you think I have potential to go pro?? Serious question, lol.
Milos says anyone can be a pro, pretty sure he will say the same for you
;DEveryone knows who disturbia is, no gimmick there.
alot of gimmicks on here
LMAO, I forgot about that, I think she ended up sitting on Geo's lap. ;D
Everyone knows who disturbia is, no gimmick there.
well, that would just take all the fun out of being an internet tough guy....now wouldn't it?
;)
You call it man... I'm in LA until around the 26th, then back east for 2-3 weeks, then back here. Doesn't matter to me. If I'm in town, we'll hook it up.
you look awesome dude.
Milos says anyone can be a pro, pretty sure he will say the same for you
Hey Milos, do you think I have potential to go pro?? Serious question, lol.You look fantastic.
You look fantastic.
Good structure too.
ABout professional, if you are using good amount of gear on this stage, you had better not being a pro.
If you did almost nothing, you will be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than this in the future.
But,being big only doesnt make you a pro as you know.
Some amas are bigger than pros... but...
did not see legsThats the crucial point.
narrow
if already on heavy dope (seems to be)maybe like Jorge Betancourt
= NO PRO
Thats the crucial point.
How do you feel that?
Tell me.
meaningYeah. I know what you said and i agree 100%.
if he is already juiced to the gills (likely he is)
he hasn't much further to go/grow
Hey Milos, do you think I have potential to go pro?? Serious question, lol.
Haha, that's what I was thinking when Milos said Kyomu doesn't even look like he trains. If they were on friendly terms and Kyomu was part of Team Milos I'm sure he'd say Kyomu could stand on the O stage in 1 year max. :D
Remember when Milos said he could add 30-40lbs of pure muscle on The Coach in a month. :D
I don't tell anyone - they can be PRO's...even though I believe that nobody on this Earth is so physically inferior that they could not make it on the pro stage...
But, everyone needs to do RIGHT things to make it...and some just never learn...
Are you sure about that, Milos? Is getting a pro card that simple (not to be confused with easy)? It's one thing putting on muscle, quite another making it look good. If someone is bow legged, narrow low shoulder structure, wide hips, short calf attachments or just short muscle attachments in general, not to mention being a midget, it's going to be tough no matter how much muscle you have. You'll be competing with others that have just as much muscle but not the innate flaws. One of your strengths was a virtually perfect structure and muscle shape. Everything flowed. Not everybody is equally blessed.
If that is you Ryan - YOU LOOK GREAT and 100% for sure YOU DO HAVE POTENTIAL TO GO PRO.
I wish you this from the bottom of my hearth and IF you need some assistance - feel free to ask me anything...Beautiful shape.
meaning
if he is already juiced to the gills (likely he is)
he hasn't much further to go/grow
Jesus mate , you are jacked,as Milos says great shape. :)
Thanks for the opinion Milos, that certainly means a lot coming from you. I really don't have the inspiration in going pro, but I was wondering if I got what it took. Plus for my frame, being about 6 foot tall, I would have to be 250+ Ibs. In that vid I weighed around 205.
I don't know, I like the way I look now, and I don't gain much in the off season, probably around 215 to 220, lean year round. We'll see in the future, but I'll be in Cali sometime, I'll definitely stop by your gym, Milos ;)
Jesus mate , you are jacked,as Milos says great shape. :)
Here is a pic of Stan one week out from the Europa show here in Dallas,He's looking good there.Still keeping the narrow waist with good width and huge legs..
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs127.snc1/5449_115018782954_784372954_2303705_3397566_n.jpg)
Here is a pic of Stan one week out from the Europa show here in Dallas,
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs127.snc1/5449_115018782954_784372954_2303705_3397566_n.jpg)
damnI agree, Mr. Lax. I would rather look like him than basically any of the thick waisted, syntholed "typical pro", nowadays.
that's the best pic I ever saw of him
s what the ideal should be
I agree, Mr. Lax. I would rather look like him than basically any of the thick waisted, syntholed "typical pro", nowadays.
damn
that's the best pic I ever saw of him
s what the ideal should be
I agree, Stan is the kind of physique I am shooting for, still looks very good year round without going overboard in the off season, yet good for the muscle and fitness crowd. Very asthetically pleasing physique!!
yes, Chem, and I am sure he looks great in a Brook's Bros suit...not that any of the behemoths would own oneTrue, my friend. Actually Serge Nubret, in his heyday, was actually able to look good in a tailored suit. For some reason, he didn't have that oafish look that most of these guys get...where they look like they have trouble walking like a normal human. They do that stiff arm held out, duck walk waddle "I'm an inflexible, red-faced buffoon and I'm carrying a filthy plastic gallon jug of water " routine. Only a few can be muscular, massive and still come off with a bit of style and sophistication.
True, my friend. Actually Serge Nubret, in his heyday, was actually able to look good in a tailored suit. For some reason, he didn't have that oafish look that most of these guys get...where they look like they have trouble walking like a normal human. They do that stiff arm held out, duck walk waddle "I'm an inflexible, red-faced buffoon and I'm carrying a filthy plastic gallon jug of water " routine. Only a few can be muscular, massive and still come off with a bit of style and sophistication.
haha
yes
a former writer, I think 'tyler dunwoodie' interviwed Arnold some years ago
asked him: why isn't bb on tv anympore?
Arnold was kinda incredulous:
"Are you kidding me? These guys today....well, we had Zane, me, Nubret, et al, we'd wear tailored clothing, suits...these guys today, walk like they have a stick up their ass, dress like clowns, carry those, stupid, filthy water jugs, and smell like rancid protein from 50 metres..."
"how the hell do i sell that to ANYBODY?"
Exactly
something like that
you look very good, kid
you can likely emulate him
time will give you the extra thickness you need
Thanks man, I know I give you a hard time here, but it's all good. I hope to put on a little more size on my quads this year, I think my calves are good, just quad needs more size, and more deadlifts and barbell rows for the thickness in my back. I've been slacking at those, lol.
In all seriousness, I am very aware of my health, and what I put into my body, the reason asking if I could go pro was just me wondering if I got what it took. I am leaning more towards the muscle and fitness type, kind of what Stan Mcquay does. I think my physique is more in line with that, and for my frame I don't think 200-205 is going to cut it in competition, lol. Most of those guys are 5'7, 5'9 at that weight.
You're pretty much what most people that train seriously strive for. It really doesn't get much better than what you've achieve.
Definitely go for the fitness model path. It's healthier, more pay (once you get establish which will be quicker and easier than BB), less sleazy than pro bodybuilding, all the poon you can possibly want, and there's far more status being a model than a muscle bound freak. People will stare at you in awe and envy instead with disbelief and disgust as most do with bodybuilders. And you also won't have the steroid stigma, whether you use or not, that bodybuilders have.
You have the look and a bright future. I envy you and I hate you.
Thanks man, I know I give you a hard time here, but it's all good. I hope to put on a little more size on my quads this year, I think my calves are good, just quad needs more size, and more deadlifts and barbell rows for the thickness in my back. I've been slacking at those, lol.
Are you sure about that, Milos? Is getting a pro card that simple (not to be confused with easy)? It's one thing putting on muscle, quite another making it look good. If someone is bow legged, narrow low shoulder structure, wide hips, short calf attachments or just short muscle attachments in general, not to mention being a midget, it's going to be tough no matter how much muscle you have. You'll be competing with others that have just as much muscle but not the innate flaws. One of your strengths was a virtually perfect structure and muscle shape. Everything flowed. Not everybody is equally blessed.
Here is a pic of Stan one week out from the Europa show here in Dallas,
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs127.snc1/5449_115018782954_784372954_2303705_3397566_n.jpg)
I never said it is EASY...But being told by just about everyone back in Yugoslavia - there is no way I'll ever be able to turn pro and qualify for the Olympia - I politely asked:
if that video is ryan why is the name different on the video?
You want something bad enough - work hard, believe...and no doubt it is only matter of time when you'll achieve...ANYTHING YOUR HEART DESIRES.
And if you need any help - find me at my gym - I'll be glad to assist you.
I hear that all the time. If you want something bad enough you'll achieve it. But that's simply not true because there are some things out of control. There are so many people that would kill to be President but mathematically it is just not possible. You can't control what others do. How they vote. Are you saying you never won the O because you just didn't want it enough? You do everything you can but ultimately it's left to the judges. And they have proven to be flawed. One example is Tom Platz. I don't think anyone at the time was more determined to win the O. And the condition he showed up in at that show was his very best. Only Padilla was close. But who did they give it too? A bow legged, gyno plagued, smoothed quad, blocky Franco. Why? Politics. He was Arnold's boy and he was going to win no matter what.
Platz did everything a human being can possibly do but in the end it didn't matter how much he wanted it, it was in the hands of the judges.
Oh...I forgot...BobbyyyyyOk Chick I'll be down to pick you up soon we're going down to see Milos for the challenge - whats your address?
Where are you?
When could I expect the money you owe me?
Show is over...you have some time - write the check, bring cash or call with the number of your credit card(s) - being that is 35K - you'll probably need more than one... ;)
You asked for it...TESTICULAR FORTITUDE CHALLENGE Pinocchio...didn't go exactly as you planned...Oh well - better luck next time...
I'll start adding interest soon...so hurry up bro...
I hear that all the time. If you want something bad enough you'll achieve it. But that's simply not true because there are some things out of control. There are so many people that would kill to be President but mathematically it is just not possible. You can't control what others do. How they vote. Are you saying you never won the O because you just didn't want it enough? You do everything you can but ultimately it's left to the judges. And they have proven to be flawed. One example is Tom Platz. I don't think anyone at the time was more determined to win the O. And the condition he showed up in at that show was his very best. Only Padilla was close. But who did they give it too? A bow legged, gyno plagued, smoothed quad, blocky Franco. Why? Politics. He was Arnold's boy and he was going to win no matter what.
Platz did everything a human being can possibly do but in the end it didn't matter how much he wanted it, it was in the hands of the judges.
Milos is a fan of this
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HrC6HQ%2BwL._SS500_.jpg)
actually Milos is a fan of Napoleon Hill who wrote ' Think and Grow Rich'. that is the book that 'The Secret' is based on.
actually Milos is a fan of Napoleon Hill who wrote ' Think and Grow Rich'. that is the book that 'The Secret' is based on.
I hear that all the time. If you want something bad enough you'll achieve it. But that's simply not true because there are some things out of control. There are so many people that would kill to be President but mathematically it is just not possible. You can't control what others do. How they vote. Are you saying you never won the O because you just didn't want it enough? You do everything you can but ultimately it's left to the judges. And they have proven to be flawed. One example is Tom Platz. I don't think anyone at the time was more determined to win the O. And the condition he showed up in at that show was his very best. Only Padilla was close. But who did they give it too? A bow legged, gyno plagued, smoothed quad, blocky Franco. Why? Politics. He was Arnold's boy and he was going to win no matter what.
Platz did everything a human being can possibly do but in the end it didn't matter how much he wanted it, it was in the hands of the judges.
acctually "the secret" is not based on think and grow rich, its based on the early 20th century original "the power of positive thinking"...
Stan is the man!
Love his physique, appreciate his personality and respect his strength NOT to play the size game but stay - as PERFECT as he already is... ;)
I think I whispered that to his ears...once...or twice... :)
I think that's good too, but does he stand a chance like that?
Personally i'd much rather look like him than the other pros!
Well, if bbing awards physiques like his, than it's definitely heading towards the right direction. None of those under 202 can match him IMO, in lines, symmetry, shape, and structure. Sure mass, but that's pretty much it. He has it all with marketability and looks. The complete package!
If you want something bad enough you'll achieve it.
So you did not really want to be Mr. Olympia?
So you did not really want to be Mr. Olympia?
Don't confuse possibility with present status...Juliette Bergman was one of the very best female bodybuilders - but she had retired WITHOUT Ms. Olympia Title...Than after 17 years of "retirement" - she returned and won title 2 (or 3?) years in a row...
Our wooden puppet with the bad wig, who acts like a clown most of the time - competed as an amateur like 100- something years (14-15?) before he signed the contract to be "good boy who listens to commands" - and he immediately won USA, got the pro card and...was "elected" by officials to be their official rep among the pro athletes...
I am in no hurry...I can still win the Olympia IF I put my mind to it...but I do have other priorities...
Believing is absolute must for achieving - and you should know this by now...Most of us does...
Our wooden puppet with the bad wig, who acts like a clown most of the time - competed as an amateur like 100- something years (14-15?) before he signed the contract to be "good boy who listens to commands" - and he immediately won USA, got the pro card and...was "elected" by officials to be their official rep among the pro athletes...
And if the "Law of Attraction" is true, how come so much negativity surrounds him and his affairs? Lots of drama. Is it because Milos has, at times, been a negative person himself, it manifesting in his personal affairs?
Don't confuse possibility with present status...Juliette Bergman was one of the very best female bodybuilders - but she had retired WITHOUT Ms. Olympia Title...Than after 17 years of "retirement" - she returned and won title 2 (or 3?) years in a row...
Our wooden puppet with the bad wig, who acts like a clown most of the time - competed as an amateur like 100- something years (14-15?) before he signed the contract to be "good boy who listens to commands" - and he immediately won USA, got the pro card and...was "elected" by officials to be their official rep among the pro athletes...
I am in no hurry...I can still win the Olympia IF I put my mind to it...but I do have other priorities...
Believing is absolute must for achieving - and you should know this by now...Most of us does...
Bob's win at the USA's was a purely political decision in your opinion? He shouldn't have won that time?
if you could win the olympia you would have already done it
I am in no hurry...I can still win the Olympia IF I put my mind to it...but I do have other priorities...
if you could win the olympia you would have already done it
Oh, really...?LMAO, hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa ahahaha!!!!! ;D
I guess I failed miserably....My life is over - and I should never, ever even consider trying again...as teenage mutant sheboy or tboobz suggest...?
Don't think so bambi...
I'll give it another go...when the time is right...You might even be matured enough to fly to the show without special permission from your parents (or probation officer)... ;)
Thanks for the explanation about your suspension I never knew the details, you are a real man for not standing up for the political bullshit of the IFBB puppets. In time it the truth will prevail.
Fighting the crime and fighting FOR the athletes is what I have been doing...for quite some time now...
Pointing finger at criminal who was accepting the bribe at one of the most important International sporting events (Asian Games in Doha) to save integrity of IFBB Federation AND MORE IMPORTANTLY - give my brothers and sisters of iron from Asia and Middle East FAIR SPORTING CHANCE to excel in their chosen sport of bodybuilding by being judged FAIRLY - without predetermined (sold out) placing...which happened to be the case in Asia for many years...
I was warned by many athletes and National Coaches (from Asia and Middle East) that IF I complain to IFBB office - I might be suspended myself...as seem to be the case with numerous examples in Asia for over the decade...
Can anyone THINK FOR A SECOND and suggest WHAT EXACTLY DID I HAVE TO GAIN by reporting witnessed crime?
I knew what I had to LOOSE - and WHAT I ACTUALLY HAVE LOST (pretty much everything, 3 endorsement contracts, IFBB pro card, ability to earn money from my profession, even some already scheduled/prepaid appearances I had lined up before Doha...) and regardless of absolutely CATASTROPHIC FAITH I could (and I did) expect - I did what was my duty - as honest, honorable man with sense of justice and pride - who witnessed unthinkable crime within my own Federation and ABUSE my hard working colleagues (competitive bodybuilders in Asia/Middle East) were exposed to.
I acted appropriately - calling the office directly...hoping that investigation will take place instantly...and we all know what happened instead...
Crime was NOT investigated - only the messenger (me)...
My one year suspension - suppose to end December 2007...and I am still not reinstated?...
Federation asked me for letter of apology...and I refused to sign one...Since than - TRUTH did find the way to come out...everything I claimed was proven, Paul Chua is suspended and no longer in Federation...but I am still labeled as "problematic", still without the PRO CARD (after 10 Olympia qualifications and 72 IFBB professional competitions...)...?
Well...law of attraction is my way of living...and will be the way I will get back where I belong...It is just matter of TIME... ;)
He didn't in previous 50 occasions...What do you think happened ?
He deserved ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D to ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D win ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D????
P-lease... ::)
Like he deserved athletes position? Masters title? Free hair extensions?....HUMALOG WITH NO PRESCRIPTION GENIUS?
Free education?...
Pinocchio is what Pinocchio does (and that is what Giepetto decides... ;))
More ignorance...what benefit to the NPC was it to "let" me win the USA? Fact is, I was the best on stage that day.....unlike yourself who went the back door route to a pro card after placing dead last in your attempts here in the US to secure one...Mr. Yugo is about as prestigious as winning the Mr. Venice Beach (only not as tough)....if you had to win the USA or Nationals, you would STILL be an amateur to this day.
You talk a good game, but offer nothing but insults and ignorance...certainly a show of your true intelligence.
More ignorance...what benefit to the NPC was it to "let" me win the USA? Fact is, I was the best on stage that day.....unlike yourself who went the back door route to a pro card after placing dead last in your attempts here in the US to secure one...Mr. Yugo is about as prestigious as winning the Mr. Venice Beach (only not as tough)....if you had to win the USA or Nationals, you would STILL be an amateur to this day.
Great, thanks for the ost....which has nothing to do with Milos debating what I've done for the athletes or my representation...
Try and keep up
Oh...you think? :o
Already than... :-\ :'( :'( :'(
But - more importantly:
Where is my money???
Hard for me to "keep up" when I'm two steps ahead........ ;)
Great, thanks for the ost....which has nothing to do with Milos debating what I've done for the athletes or my representation...
Try and keep up
But you're ignoring his Mr. Universe win and all of those pro wins he has. I'm not saying you haven't done well... Obviously you have, but you're talking about a guy who competed almost non-stop for 2+ years and did well every single time.
Oh...you think? :o
Already than... :-\ :'( :'( :'(
But - more importantly:
Where is my money???
Money for what? You've succeeded in disproving NOTHING. When the day ever comes were in the same place at the same time, we can surely go to a polygraph expert to settle the debate...bring your checkbook.The burden of proof is upon those that make the claims.
More ignorance...what benefit to the NPC was it to "let" me win the USA? Fact is, I was the best on stage that day.....unlike yourself who went the back door route to a pro card after placing dead last in your attempts here in the US to secure one...Mr. Yugo is about as prestigious as winning the Mr. Venice Beach (only not as tough)....if you had to win the USA or Nationals, you would STILL be an amateur to this day.
But you're ignoring his Mr. Universe win and all of those pro wins he has. I'm not saying you haven't done well... Obviously you have, but you're talking about a guy who competed almost non-stop for 2+ years and did well every single time.
Money for what? You've succeeded in disproving NOTHING. When the day ever comes were in the same place at the same time, we can surely go to a polygraph expert to settle the debate...bring your checkbook.
Hmmm, I don't see you with official IFBB PRO champion title (masters is "SPECIAL" ::) category...for people that can't win OPEN division...oh, you knew that...sorry), Hmmm, I managed to earn 10 consecutive Mr. Olympia qualifications, beating so many great champs at one time or another (need list?)...but I would still be an amateur to this day...?
OK Bobby, having a bad day bro?
Giepetto spanked you little too hard?
I'll come to you - no problem...and you should bring CASH - as somehow I don't trust your check book.
Our bet was crystal clear - and you publicly LOST BET right here on getbig...
Pay up loser...genius...orathletesofficials rep...
Money for what? You've succeeded in disproving NOTHING. When the day ever comes were in the same place at the same time, we can surely go to a polygraph expert to settle the debate...bring your checkbook.
I beat alot of the champs myself in the amateurs...what does that mean? I'm quite sure mendenhall would have beaten a lot of pro's as well
If you could have earned pro status here, you would have. You couldn't.
Guess I could have been there 10 years earlier had I gone to Italy...
Dorian won USA or Nationals?
1989 - I won OVERALL NPC Coastal USA Championships in Atlanta Georgia...and also OVERALL NPC Las Vegas show - same year...
I was told (if you didn't know ;)) that I cannot compete at Nationals or USA - as I was NOT American citizen...
So, my arrogant loser puppet - if you didn't "do what you need to do ::) ::) ::) ::)" - to get the pro card... :-X :-X :-X - you would have still make good top 10 finisher at Orange County Muscle Classic...
Your physique in Italy would be classified as second class - so please - don't flatter yourself with wishful thinking...
In no other country you would EVER turn pro...as for that - you need to have a...physique - you know.... ;)
Here, as "protected specie" - you might even get position of the IFBB president, maybe Mr. Olympia crown...and God knows what else...
All depends how low you really want to go...?
But, why don't you still try to get in shape and go to one of European tours...to see if you would actually even be allowed on stage...or be confused for official (oh, did I say that?)...rather - confused for janitor... ;) that sounds more like it...
In all honesty Bobby - you have a SINGLE body part that could be considered PRO material?
Bodybuilding PRO material...? ;D
Dorian won USA or Nationals?
1989 - I won OVERALL NPC Coastal USA Championships in Atlanta Georgia...and also OVERALL NPC Las Vegas show - same year...
I was told (if you didn't know ;)) that I cannot compete at Nationals or USA - as I was NOT American citizen...
So, my arrogant loser puppet - if you didn't "do what you need to do ::) ::) ::) ::)" - to get the pro card... :-X :-X :-X - you would have still make good top 10 finisher at Orange County Muscle Classic...
Your physique in Italy would be classified as second class - so please - don't flatter yourself with wishful thinking...
In no other country you would EVER turn pro...as for that - you need to have a...physique - you know.... ;)
Here, as "protected specie" - you might even get position of the IFBB president, maybe Mr. Olympia crown...and God knows what else...
All depends how low you really want to go...?
But, why don't you still try to get in shape and go to one of European tours...to see if you would actually even be allowed on stage...or be confused for official (oh, did I say that?)...rather - confused for janitor... ;) that sounds more like it...
In all honesty Bobby - you have a SINGLE body part that could be considered PRO material?
Bodybuilding PRO material...? ;D
How do you figure? Are you still not able to comprehend the terms?
You have no clue who I know, what means I had, etc....to exclaim you "won" is laughable.
How you know what I did 7 years ago would be interesting....
Pathetic loser who desperately tries to catch some kind of "escape"...as "terms of our bet" were blah-blah-blah...
We all know what's up - and it is here for everyone to read it...
So, pathetic excuse for a puppet - watch what you are saying as your nose is already out of control...
Epic Silence from Chick...
I dont need an escape....the bet was that you believe I'm lying when I said I obtained Humalog and Humalin without prescription from a pharmacy in LA....PERIOD.
I even asked you TWICE if you understood the details of the bet....you claimed you did
Has enough parts to beat you, didn't I?
Are you claiming you never competed in the USA?
Epic moron
I dont need an escape....the bet was that you believe I'm lying when I said I obtained Humalog and Humalin without prescription from a pharmacy in LA....PERIOD.
I even asked you TWICE if you understood the details of the bet....you claimed you did
Funny you calling me a moron when you are the one that said "BTW Humalog is available almost anywhere without a perscription Jackass, go educate yourself."
So far myself, Milos, Ron, Scott, (MM-Venice), and just about everybody in California called you on the most retarded statement of the year, and yet I AM THE MORON.
Your logic never fails to astound me sir...well played! :D
Is he from the planet Melmac?
Italy's own Massimo Villi.. How did he get a pro card?He beat Bob Chick?
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You beat me ;D ;D ;D ;D - sure you did...after I finished my career and entered couple of shows - with 4 weeks of training - to keep my contracts...And besides - even with that I manage to beat you too ;)...
I am claiming I could not enter USA or Nationals - and just because I was told that I couldn't - I entered one - to win my bet ;) and also to surprise someone at the show (a special lady)...I am glad you are fan who knows so much about me...
I shouldn't refuse to send you requested dirty underwear...I really thought you were just pretending...but you are my fan!?
Bobby, that's nice of you...
Is that why you try to look just like me...but failed miserably...?
Epic Silence from Chick...
He beat Bob Chick?
Funny you calling me a moron when you are the one that said "BTW Humalog is available almost anywhere without a perscription Jackass, go educate yourself."
So far myself, Milos, Ron, Scott, (MM-Venice), and just about everybody in California called you on the most retarded statement of the year, and yet I AM THE MORON.
Your logic never fails to astound me sir...well played! :D
Really?
Bobby - what do you say ?
Oh...here comes the excuse book
So you did compete at the USA, and placed dead last. right?
Ok Chick...when you got off the phone with Manion, or you grow some balls...feel free to answer me.
M!
Did I ;D??
I was politely told that I shouldn't be there ;D..idiot...
My bet was that I will be on the stage - and I was...and Bobby: I DON'T LOSE BETS... ;)
no...
1 Bob Cicherillo
2 Johnny Stewart
3 Pavol Jablonicky
4 Claude Groulx
5 Stan McCrary
6 Nathaniel Wonsley
7 John Simmons
8 Rusty Jeffers
9 Joseph Palumbo
10 Alberto Bistocchi
11 Daryl Stafford
12 George Turmon
13 David Marinelli
14 Rudy Soliman
15 Quincy Roberts
16 Nicolae Giurgi
17 Massimo Valli
- Leon Brown
- Ken Jones
- William Leonard
- Josef Rac
- Robert Sabatini
- Behanam Samimy
- Abdul Sharif
- Charles Urrego
Answer the question
No one has to answer to you, loser
Answer the question
Did I ;D??
I was politely told that I shouldn't be there ;D..idiot...
My bet was that I will be on the stage - and I was...and Bobby: I DON'T LOSE BETS... ;)
Chick are you STILL claming that you were able to legaly buy Humalog without a script? If so...was this before or after you turned water into wine, freed the slaves, and leaped tall buildings with a single bound? ???
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
Chick...you are a total retard... HERE IS YOUR ORIGNAL QUOTE UNALTERD!!!!
I say post the original post from myself...this idiot Topskin didn't have a clue either way, and I was only referencing Insulin, BEFORE we got intoparticulars of whether it was Humalin or Humalog::)
I got BOTH, without prescription......so pay up
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
Still waiting for an answer....did you compete in the USA and place last
Yes or No
That's it, Bob, your mod spot on the positive board is terminated.........i will take over from you ASAP.It would be an honor to mod alongside someone that has integrity and honor such as webcke and help clean up the dirty feeling I get when I see my name next to "Chick". :-X
Yep...this all started with the above statement. You are so out of touch you probably didnt even realize that you needed a Script for Humalog, (since you probably bought all your gear from a local Venice hookup...if you REALLY want some dirty laundry aired I can start naming names....nah that probably wouldnt fit in with the entire marketable image you got going...). Thus you inserted your foot so far in your mouth you couldnt possibly hope to recover.You can PM me the names, I won't mention them, honest. :D
M!
You can PM me the names, I won't mention them, honest. :D
It would be an honor to mod alongside someone that has integrity and honor such as webcke and help clean up the dirty feeling I get when I see my name next to "Chick". :-X
Yep...this all started with the above statement. You are so out of touch you probably didnt even realize that you needed a Script for Humalog, (since you probably bought all your gear from a local Venice hookup...if you REALLY want some dirty laundry aired I can start naming names....nah that probably wouldnt fit in with the entire marketable image you got going...). Thus you inserted your foot so far in your mouth you couldnt possibly hope to recover.
M!
My bad, I misspoke as the original argumant was about insulin in GENERAL, which I believe I provided a link for...feel free to post that
THAT IS EXACTLY A POINT...
I KNOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT INSULIN IN GENERAL - AS MOST OF THE INSULINS WERE AVAILABLE WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION...
But, you made CARDINAL MISTAKE including HUMALOG as one of the insulins that you claimed didn't need prescription - which some of us cut immediately.
I played you - as I know how you operate LOSER...You are just too easy, too stupid and too predictable. (child's play ;))
I knew that you will jump before considering the facts...and now - you owe me $35000...and I might not even consider giving you ten grand for "good gesture" as you are making me mad...
So, genius - WHEN ARE WE GOING TO POLYGRAPH?
Yep...this all started with the above statement. You are so out of touch you probably didnt even realize that you needed a Script for Humalog, (since you probably bought all your gear from a local Venice hookup...if you REALLY want some dirty laundry aired I can start naming names....nah that probably wouldnt fit in with the entire marketable image you got going...). Thus you inserted your foot so far in your mouth you couldnt possibly hope to recover.
M!
You know Milos...a while back Chick vowed that he would take a Polygraph of any 50 questions I had...as it pertains to verious statements/subjects he has brought up on getbig. If he was cought in any lies he was willing to pay 10 times the amount of whatever was put into the pot. I was willing to put in $1000,00 of my own $$ to get this ball rolling...I decided to drop the issue, since I was the only one interested. However if you wish to join me...I say we can clean out Bob...50 questions to catch him in a lie...shouldnt be hard at all...
M!
LOL....feel free to "name names"....I dont have any "dirty Laundry" to air, so knock yourself put, champ...
As for your incessant rambling about the subjet, as I stated, I had BOTH...so It's irrelevant either way. I never had a script for Insulin of ANY kind
LOL....feel free to "name names"....I dont have any "dirty Laundry" to air, so knock yourself put, champ...
As for your incessant rambling about the subjet, as I stated, I had BOTH...so It's irrelevant either way. I never had a script for Insulin of ANY kind
I am in - of course...and I can ask Bobby questions he would just looooovvvveeee answering...believe me.
I can ask Bobby questions he would just looooovvvveeee answering...believe me.
You mean 10+ years...
Chick are you STILL claming that you were able to legaly buy Humalog without a script? If so...was this before or after you turned water into wine, freed the slaves, and leaped tall buildings with a single bound? ???
Excuse my mistake... 10+ years... Everyone can see Bob looks the fool in this thread.
Chick will continue to act like he "won" so to speak... He feels if he says it to himself long enough and he keeps saying it, that people will believe him.
It's what children do when they are cornered.
Funny you calling me a moron when you are the one that said "BTW Humalog is available almost anywhere without a perscription Jackass, go educate yourself."oh shit. owned.
So far myself, Milos, Ron, Scott, (MM-Venice), and just about everybody in California called you on the most retarded statement of the year, and yet I AM THE MORON.
Your logic never fails to astound me sir...well played! :D
My bad, I misspoke as the original argumant was about insulin in GENERAL, which I believe I provided a link for...feel free to post that
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
You never had insulin script - than you never had Humalog...Milos calling Chick out on his BS
My bet was that YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY GET HUMALOG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION - AND I AM SURE YOU DIDN'T.
Chick, both the original post that you addressed getting Humalog without a script, and the next post where you reference the same Humalog are below. Unaltered and one right after another.
What were you ORIGINALLY trying to say; 1)that you can walk into a pharmacy WITHOUT a script? 2) that it is perfectly LEGAL to walk into a pharmacy without a script and obtain Humalog from a pharmacist that you DO NOT KNOW 3) or you can waltz into any pharmacy in California at any time using any pharmacist behind the counter and LEGALLY obtain Humalog WITHOUT a script?
From what all the posts in this one thread tell me, is that there are a few little gray areas and/or loopholes that can be exploited here. Chick could possibly be right, as he thinks he is. Milos could be right, as he he thinks he is.
But even though it's all here to read, unaltered, who is right and wrong since in Bob's original post he clearly says he bought Humalog without a prescription while it was never available this way. But then again, he never originally said that he said he LEGALLY obtained that insulin from the pharmacy/pharmacist either....
Bobby - it is 3:30 AM - I can even sleep I am so excited about your money becoming - mine....
Precious...
Mishko didn't win pro status just because he came in first place at some show.lol
It was much after the fact he was phone calling & begging with the powers to be that he deserved pro status because of it.
General rumor was that alot of guys didn't respect mishko because his pro status was earned through phone calls, back doors, & knee dropping actions.
He was always embarrassed of his 17" arms. The 'mind' who could help anyone & was a guru in his own world decided to use synthol.
Almost killed himself even doing it. ::)
Bob on the other hand...I don't always agree with his stand...but I have more respect for. He won at the USA's in a time when it was probably at the all time hardest to achieve a win. I would bet a million dollars (if I had it) that if Mishko was to try the same during the time, he would have never won.
I will give props where props are due....Mishko did back in the day probably had one of the best leg separation & ab development. Other than that...his mouth (not his mind) will be what he goes down in history being remembered for.
lol
youare comparing Milos to Chik?
that's very insulting for Milos who's trice as good as that Chick
Mishko didn't win pro status just because he came in first place at some show.
It was much after the fact he was phone calling & begging with the powers to be that he deserved pro status because of it.
General rumor was that alot of guys didn't respect mishko because his pro status was earned through phone calls, back doors, & knee dropping actions.
He was always embarrassed of his 17" arms. The 'mind' who could help anyone & was a guru in his own world decided to use synthol.
Almost killed himself even doing it. ::)
Bob on the other hand...I don't always agree with his stand...but I have more respect for. He won at the USA's in a time when it was probably at the all time hardest to achieve a win. I would bet a million dollars (if I had it) that if Mishko was to try the same during the time, he would have never won.
I will give props where props are due....Mishko did back in the day probably had one of the best leg separation & ab development. Other than that...his mouth (not his mind) will be what he goes down in history being remembered for.
And I thought I was the only one up on GetBig. Of course, I'm in Hawaii where it's only (?) 12:30 am. Nice to be up with Milos. BTW Mishko, Switzenegger is still bashing you in Time Out (I have an old account still there). It's hilarious! Like a man in a padded cell.
Mishko didn't win pro status just because he came in first place at some show.
It was much after the fact he was phone calling & begging with the powers to be that he deserved pro status because of it.
General rumor was that alot of guys didn't respect mishko because his pro status was earned through phone calls, back doors, & knee dropping actions.
He was always embarrassed of his 17" arms. The 'mind' who could help anyone & was a guru in his own world decided to use synthol.
Almost killed himself even doing it. ::)
Bob on the other hand...I don't always agree with his stand...but I have more respect for. He won at the USA's in a time when it was probably at the all time hardest to achieve a win. I would bet a million dollars (if I had it) that if Mishko was to try the same during the time, he would have never won.
I will give props where props are due....Mishko did back in the day probably had one of the best leg separation & ab development. Other than that...his mouth (not his mind) will be what he goes down in history being remembered for.
Whiner-Schnitzel is obviously obsessed with me...can't get enough of me...or even live without me...but that is completely understandable...Can you blame him for that?
However, I am not familiar with Time Out...Can you send me a link?
Only members that are banished go there. I have an old account still stewing in there due to a Vince Taylor/Lee Priest spoof posted by Lee regarding guest posing outside the IFBB. My first and only offense and I got a life sentence (actually just forgotten about).
Even if you could, you really wouldn't want to go there. Just Switzneggger talking to himself. Actually, he got one reply but the rest is just him venting. Here's a sampling (you should feel pity really):
Switznegger
Time Out
Getbig III
Posts: 943
Re: Milos when are you back on an IFBB stage competing?
You Fucking Inbreed Fuck that squeaky voiced Serb no balls is frail and needs drugs daily just to get by.Even Chick won't help this Big Mouth Fool.He will never get his IFBB Pro card back.What's to want from his poor Fucking Life a wife who gets written about Fucking BBs and Judges as Nasser has said.FFS
omg bob do u even think b4 u type lately? :oi'm guessing no. He has been getting raped on ever thread. Poor guy. :-\
::)
1991
Grand Prix Denmark - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 9th
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 6th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
Olympia - IFBB, Did not place
San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1992
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 8th
Chicago Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 10th
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 12th
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, 10th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 6th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 5th
Olympia - IFBB, Did not place
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
1993
Chicago Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix France (2) - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Germany (2) - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Night of Champions - IFBB, 5th
Olympia - IFBB, 11th
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1994
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix France (2) - IFBB, 6th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
Olympia - IFBB, 13th
1995
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 3rd
Houston Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, 4th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 6th
1996
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 3rd
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
Night of Champions - IFBB, 4th
1997
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 8th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 7th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 9th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 10th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1998
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 5th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
Olympia - IFBB, Did not place
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
1999
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 5th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, 5th
Olympia - IFBB, 10th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
World Pro Championships - IFBB, 5th
2001
Night of Champions - IFBB, 10th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th
2003
Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 6th
Night of Champions - IFBB, 9th
i'm pretty sure Milos was top 6 in over 50 IFBB professional contests
also, he was on the cover of more magazines than the guys who placed ahead of him, because he had(has?) the physique most aspire to.
ironic that if they put the guys who beat him on the cover of the magazine, it wouldn't sell as well.
Hmmm, I don't see you with official IFBB PRO champion title (masters is "SPECIAL" ::) category...for people that can't win OPEN division...oh, you knew that...sorry), Hmmm, I managed to earn 10 consecutive Mr. Olympia qualifications, beating so many great champs at one time or another (need list?)...but I would still be an amateur to this day...?
OK Bobby, having a bad day bro?
Giepetto spanked you little too hard?
Heres a good argument....I guess you believe your ONE win in the circuit is worth more? LOL...Paco Batista has TWO wins, guess that makes him twice as good as you, right?Next to Paco, Milos looks like a swimmer.
So what you're saying...if you were a race horse....your odds at winning a pro show would have been worse statistically than bob's?SAY WHAT U WILL,BUT MILOS HAD A VERY COMPETITIVE CAREER,AND ALMOST HIT PEAKED SHAPE EVERY TIME.THAT COUNTS FOR A LOT .
Mishko:2 for 72
Bob: 1 for 12
Hell, you didn't win a Pro show until what...after what....44 Pro Shows?
I'm just saying...it took many more years for Bob to win a Pro Card...but he actually earned it. He's still a third tier pro in my book where Mishko you're not even good enough to make a 4th tier.
His USA win has more prestige than winning the Canada Pro or Toronto Pro show.
Heres a good argument....I guess you believe your ONE win in the circuit is worth more? LOL...Paco Batista has TWO wins, guess that makes him twice as good as you, right?
Next to Paco, Milos looks like a swimmer.Milos would be Paco anytime on symmetry and definition.
Heres a good argument....I guess you believe your ONE win in the circuit is worth more? LOL...Paco Batista has TWO wins, guess that makes him twice as good as you, right?
Next to Paco, Milos looks like a swimmer.Paco 16th Mr O - 2006 - not too good
Heres a good argument....I guess you believe your ONE win in the circuit is worth more? LOL...Paco Batista has TWO wins, guess that makes him twice as good as you, right?Still trying to insult the "athletes" you're suppose to represent?
Still trying to insult the "athletes" you're suppose to represent?
I guess you're lucky "athletes" rep isn't an elected position........ ;)
How is that an insult....it's a fact.BBBBWWWWahahahahahahaaaa the only facts you know are the ones the IFBB shoves down your throat for you to repeat.......lmao, I've never seen a more "company man" than you Robert!! ;D
Heres a good argument....I guess you believe your ONE win in the circuit is worth more? LOL...Paco Batista has TWO wins, guess that makes him twice as good as you, right?
With that logic - with your zero victories as a pro I am indefinitely better than you, left? (handicap or senior citizens "special" division contest you shamelessly won by virtue of swallowing substantial amount of specific "biological substrate" similar to Nasser's shoulder producing cocktail - shouldn't and doesn't count Bobby...
I'll give you a dollar for each and every striation visible on your beyond polished physique bro...But crack doesn't count as striation so I see about 50 cents worth...Unless you can show me some pics...or you prefer taking Pinocchio detecting test...?
Are we still at Milos - you would never turn pro if you had to compete in NPC...(besides my two Overall NPC victories and inability to compete at National Championship without citizenship... ::))
But, here is interesting list of IFBB pros that I somehow managed to beat at one time or another:
Jay Cutler, Pavol Jablonicky,Aaron Baker - Darrem Charles - Paul Dillett
Michael Francois , Charles Clairmonte , Mike Matarazzo
Gunter Schlierkamp , Claude Groulx 8 Gianluca Daniele 9 Marko Savolainen 10 Giuseppe Albi 11 Ken Jones 13 Federico Focherini 14 David Smith (2),Aaron Baker - Darrem Charles - Paul Dillett - Claude Groulx - Ahmad Haidar - Johnny Moya - Gunter Schlierkamp
Sergey Shelestov , Oleg Protas ,Mike Matarazzo 11 Eusebio Serrano 12 Giuseppe Albi 13 Javier Cristobal 14 Eduardo DeLaAsuncion
Ernie Taylor 4 Mike Matarazzo 5 Pavol Jablonicky 6 Claude Groulx 7 Don Long Henderson Thorne 9 Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Derrick Whitsett 11 Hamdullah Aykutlu 12 Willie Stallings 13 Rod Ketchens 14 Shaun Davis 15 Ingvar Larsson - David Alleyne - Stefano Biondi - Abdul Bouhafs - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Kelvin Daniel - David Dearth - Michio Grubbs - Fauzi Hanst - Roland Kickinger - Allesandro Komadina - Greg Kovacs - Craig Licker - Mohamed Makkawy - Arnstein Mathsen - Jimmy Momany - Sergei Otroch - Jocelyn Pelletier - Jeff Poulin - Marc Rainbow - Marcelis Safdie - Dan Smith - Ivory Turner III, Porter Cottrell 7 Mike Matarazzo 8 Flavio Baccianini 9
Gunter Schlierkamp 7 Claude Groulx 8 Jeno Kiss 9 Gustavo Badell 10 Gianluca Daniele 11 Clive Salz 12 Federico Focherini 13 Ken Jones 14 David Smith (2) 15 Christian Placeor, Jay Cutler 13 Brian Buchanan 14 Pavol Jablonicky 15 Henderson Thorne 16 Sylvester Soloman 17 Alq' Gurley, Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Alq' Gurley 11 Don Long 12 Fauzi Hanst 13 Eddie Robinson [1] 14 Oleg Zhur 15 Stan McCrary 16 Ron Coleman 17 Daryl Stafford 18 Roland Kickinger, Anthony Williams 9 Brian Buchanan 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Eddie Robinson [1] 12 Oleg Zhur 13 Fredon Bojaklee 14 Craig Licker 15 Roberto Morisho 16 Ingvar Larsson 16 Bob Weatherhill, Vince Taylor 7 Dexter Jackson 8 Darrem Charles 9 Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Alq' Gurley 11 Patrick Lynn 12 Don Long 13 Renel Janvier 14 Jeff Long (1) 15 Roland Kickinger, Nasser El Sonbaty 7 Markus Rühl 8 Peter Elvis Brown 9 Colin Write 10 Jamo Nezzar 11 John Hodgson 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Oleg Zhur 14 Rod Ketchens 15 Dayo Audi 16 Jean Pierre Fux 17 Gustavo Badell 18 Ken Jones, Jay Cutler 4 Darrem Charles 5 Gunter Schlierkamp 6 Lee Priest 7 Alq' Gurley 8 Don Long 9 Patrick Lynn 10 Willie Stallings 11 Anthony Williams 12 Ahmad Haidar 13 Rod Ketchens 14 Oleg Zhur 15 Renel Janvier 16 Jeno Kiss 17 Fredon Bojaklee 18 Yohnnie Shambourger 19 Roland Kickinger - Emeric Delczeg - Fauzi Hanst - Milton Holloway - Ken Jones - Jason Marcovici - Kevin O'Grady - Bruce Patterson - Zvi Soika - Sylvester Soloman, Ernie Taylor 7 Johnny Moya 8 Darrem Charles 9 Porter Cottrell 10 Orville Burke 11 Claude Groulx 12 Jason Arntz 13 Tom Prince 14 J D Dawodu 15 Dennis James 16 Stan McCrary 17 Eduard Van Amsterdam 18 David Fisher - David Alleyne - Gustavo Badell - Fredon Bojaklee - Darien Bond - Kenneth Brown - Gianluca Daniele - Johannes Eleftheriadis - Fauzi Hanst - Istvan Kis Horvath - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Rod Ketchens - Jeno Kiss - Craig Licker - Christian Lobarede - Patrick Lynn - Mohamed Makkawy - Benedetto Mondello - Omid Parsa - Bruce Patterson - Mike Quinn - Grant Thomas - Ivory Turner III - Innocent Ukpong - Sdika Zvi, Markus Rühl, Pavol Jablonicky, Jay Cutler, Jean Pierre Fux
Porter Cottrell 4 Claude Groulx 5 Jason Arntz 6 Henderson Thorne 7 Don Long 8 Eddie Robinson [1] 9 David Fisher 10 Anthony Williams 11 Stan McCrary 12 Rod Ketchens 13 Craig Licker 14 Eddie Abbew 15 Kenneth Brown 16 Darien Bond 17 Fredon Bojaklee 18 Eric Alstrup 18 Ken Jones 18 Mark Lampard 18 Christian Lobarede 18 Max Maffuci 18 Jason Marcovici 18 Benedetto Mondello 18 Raffaele Morandini 18 Dennis Newman 18 Rudy Soliman - Jean Pierre Fux
Nasser El Sonbaty 7 Markus Rühl 8 Jeff Long (1) 9 Oleg Zhur 10 Luigi Sarni 11 Mauro Sarni 12 Jean Pierre Fux 13 Cvetko Stojmenovski 14 Gustavo Badell 15 Hassan Kark 16 Ken Jones 17 Mike Quinn 18 Allesandro Komadina
Bob Cicherillo 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Johnny Moya 14 Johannes Eleftheriadis 15 Michael Morris 16 Eddie Abbew 17 Robert Washington - Darien Bond - Roland Cziurlock - Serge Dessel - Dennis Francis - Jean Pierre Fux - John Hodgson - Milton Holloway - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Greg Kovacs - Bernhard Kunze - Christian Lobarede - Alison Maria - Mustafa Mohammad - Dennis Newman - Jamo Nezzar - Bruce Patterson - Sylvester Soloman - Rodney St Cloud - Eduard Van Amsterdam, Jeff Long (1) 9 Johnny Moya 10 Christian Lobarede 11 Michael Morris 12 Jamo Nezzar 13 John Hodgson 14 Michael Sheridan 15 Rodney St Cloud 16 Darien Bond 17 Roland Cziurlock - David Dearth - Serge Dessel - Nicolae Giurgi - Istvan Kis Horvath - Alison Maria - Rudy Soliman - Eduard Van Amsterdam, Thomas Benagli 8 Mustafa Mohammad 9 Eddie Abbew 10 Michael Morris 11 Alexander Vichnevski 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Tommi Thorvildsen 14 Paul Dillett 14 Jostein Ødegården 16 Nelson DaSilva 17 Istvan Kis Horvath 18 Christian Lobarede 19 Berry Kabov 20 Nicolae Gurgi, Rodney St Cloud 11 Toney Freeman 12 Heiko Kallbach 13 Jeff Long (1) 14 Michael Morris 15 Ronny Rockel 16 Craig Richardson 17 Idrise Ward-El 18 Bruce Patterson 19 Tommi Thorvildsen 20 Milton Holloway - Gustavo Badell - Fred Bigot - Leon Brown - Nelson DaSilva - Jeramy Freeman - Jean Pierre Fux - Valentine Jabes - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Rod Ketchens - Aaron Maddron - Oleg Makchatsev - Evgeny Mishin - Mustafa Mohammad - Jocelyn Pelletier - Kamal Abdul Salam El Gargni - Michael Sheridan - Rudy Soliman - Clifton Torres - Alexander Vichnevski - Wong Ngai Hong
J J Marsh 6 Kevin McGaunn 7 Mauro Sarni 8 Albert Beckles 9 Terry Mitsos 10 Darion Holiwell 11 André Bilodeau 12 Sammy Ioannidis 12 Benedetto Mondello 14 Quincy Roberts 15 Flavio Baccianini 16 Eddie Ellwood 17 Joe Spinello 18 Joseph Dawson 18 Prem Chand Degra 18 Khalil El Amin 18 Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 18 Frank Tomchak 18 Phil Williams
Henderson Thorne 7 Ray McNeil 8 Mauro Sarni 9 10 Geir Borgan Paulsen 11 Darrem Charles 12 Dan Smith 13 Allan Ichinose 14 Ronnie Coleman 15 Guy Ducasse - André Bilodeau - Francois Boisvert - Dominico Cirullo - Nasser El Sonbaty - Jose Guzman - Darion Holiwell - Sammy Ioannidis - Casey Kucharyk - Patrick Linquet - Jay Matlock - Quincy Roberts - Gary Shelmerdine - Joe Spinello - Phil Williams
Samir Bannout - Ronnie Coleman - Miroslaw Daszkiewicz - Jose Guzman - Juhani Herranen - Patrick Nicholls
Ron Love 6 Alq' Gurley 7 Mohammed Benaziza 8 Francis Benfatto 9 Bertil Fox 10 Mike Ashley 11 David Hawk 12 Geir Borgan Paulsen 13 Paul Jean-Guillaume 14 Dan Smith 15 Peter Hensel 16 Allan Ichinose 17 Khalil El Amin
Mauro Sarni 5 Henderson Thorne 6 Ronnie Coleman 7 Jim Quinn 8 Chris Duffy 9 Joe Spinello 10 Kevin McGaunn 11 Thierry Pastel 12 Thomas Varga 13 Jason Marcovici 13 Tony Pearson 15 Vernon Gauthier 16 Koen Balceon 17 Mike Winters 18 Van Walcott Smith 19 Terry Mitsos 20 Andreas Cahling 20 Armando Defant Casey Kucharyk 20 Jay Matlock 20 Albert Scantlebury
Ian Harrison 7 J J Marsh 8 Ray McNeil 9 Ron Love 10 Peter Reid 11 Eddie Ellwood 12 John Sherman 13 Arthur Buurman Sonny Schmidt 5 Viggo Snoghøj 6 Ron Love 7 Ray McNeil 8 Miroslaw Daszkiewicz 9 John Sherman 10 Arthur Buurman 11 Mats Kardell Ray McNeil 5 Kevin Levrone 6 Hamdullah Aykutlu 7 Viggo Snoghøj 8 Sonny Schmidt 9 Ron Love 10 Denis Adass 11 Miroslaw Daszkiewicz 12 Olev Annus 13 Hassan Kark 14 Giuseppe Albi 15 John Sherman 16 Arthur Buurman Hamdullah Aykutlu 7 Pavol Jablonicky 8 Ray McNeil 9 J J Marsh 10 Selwyn Cottrell 12 John Sherman 13 Johann Schatz 14 Arthur Buurman Hamdullah Aykutlu 6 Ray McNeil 7 J J Marsh 8 Ron Love 9 Denis Adass 10 John Sherman 11 Arthur Buurman 12 Bajares Elidio
Jim Quinn 5 David Dearth 6 Ronnie Coleman 7 Henderson Thorne 8 Kevin McGaunn 9 Lee Priest 10 Joe Spinello 11 Viggo Snoghøj 12 André Bilodeau 13 Koen Balceon Jason Marcovici 15 Terry Mitsos 16 Fathi Krishi 17 Juhani Herranen 18 Andreas Cahling 19 Juhani Hokkanen 19 Quincy Roberts
Henderson Thorne 7 Mauro Sarni 8 Mike Matarazzo 9 Pavol Jablonicky 10 Berry DeMey 11 Jim Quinn 12 Aaron Baker 13 Joe Spinello 14 Jason Marcovici 15 Chris Duffy - Olev Annus - Koen Balceon - Armando Defant - Eddie Ellwood - Vernon Gauthier - Jose Guzman - Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 - Casey Kucharyk - Jay Matlock - Kevin McGaunn - Thierry Pastel - Tony Pearson - Jocelyn Pelletier - Mike Quinn - Quincy Roberts - Michael Scionti - Dan Smith - Thomas Varga Lou Ferrigno J J Marsh 13 Flavio Baccianini 14 Ron Love 15 Ray McNeil 16 Mauro Sarni 17 Hamdullah Aykutlu - Arthur Buurman - Pavel Grolmus - Mike Matarazzo - Johann Schatz - John Sherman Juan Marquez 5 Ray McNeil 6 Henderson Thorne 7 Mauro Sarni 8 John Sherman 9 Aaron Baker 10 Thierry Pastel 11 Joe Spinello 12 Viggo Snoghøj 13 Terry Mitsos 14 Jason Marcovici 15 Juhani Hokkanen 16 Tony Pearson 17 Vernon Gauthier - Andreas Cahling - Juhani Herranen - Mats Kardell - Fathi Krishi - Jocelyn Pelletier
Gunter Schlierkamp 9 Porter Cottrell 10 Sonny Schmidt 11 Mauro Sarni 12 Peter Reid 13 Diego Martinez 14 Samir Bannout
Patrick Nicholls 8 Eddie Ellwood 9 Koen Balceon 11 Hamdullah Aykutlu 12 Juhani Herranen 13 Juhani Hokkanen
Roland Cziurlock 6 David Dearth 7 Porter Cottrell 8 Gunter Schlierkamp 8 Sonny Schmidt 10 Peter Reid 10 Mauro Sarni 12 Guido Conrad 13 Samir Bannout
Roland Cziurlock 6 Alq' Gurley 7 Patrick Nicholls 8 Sonny Schmidt 10 Hamdullah Aykutlu 11 Koen Balceon 12 Samir Bannout 12 Gianluca Daniele 12 Juhani Herranen Juhani Hokkanen 12 Macram Magdy 12 Diego Martinez, Porter Cottrell 6 David Dearth 7 Sonny Schmidt 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 Mauro Sarni 10 Eduardo Martinez 11 Cesar Pemental 12 Giuseppe Albi 12 Fausto Ascani 12 Samir Bannout 12 Eduardo DeLaAsuncion, Thierry Pastel 15 Ronnie Coleman 16 John Sherman 17 Achim Albrecht 18 Roland Cziurlock - Samir Bannout - David Dearth - Mike Quinn - Gunter Schlierkamp - Henderson Thorne, Claude Groulx 5 Rich Gaspari 6 Johnnie Morant 7 Jeff Poulin 8 James Roberts 9 Jason Marcovici 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Kevin McGaunn 12 Ray Williams 13 André Charette 14 Casey Kucharyk 15 Joe Spinello 16 Robert Mello 17 Quincy Roberts 17 Billy Saffold - Denis Adass - André Bilodeau - Stefano Biondi - Tony Domenech - Terrence Hayes - Juhani Herranen - Bruce Patterson - Jocelyn Pelletier, Ronnie Coleman 7 Darrem Charles 8 Henderson Thorne 9 Derrick Whitsett 10 Geir Borgan Paulsen 11 Jim Quinn 12 James Roberts 13 Craig Licker 14 Svend Karlsen 15 Tony Domenech 16 Juhani Herranen Darrem Charles 6 David Dearth 7 Derrick Whitsett 8 Henderson Thorne 9 Jeff Poulin 10 Mauro Sarni 11 Claude Groulx 12 James Roberts 13 Jason Marcovici 14 Kevin McGaunn 15 Craig Licker 16 Bob Weatherhill 17 David Fisher 17 Quincy Roberts 19 Ray Williams 20 Denis Adass 20 André Bilodeau 20 Emeric Delczeg 20 Tony Domenech 20 Svend Karlsen, Johnnie Morant 8 Eddie Robinson [1] 9 Darrem Charles 10 Guy Ducasse 11 Claude Groulx 12 Rich Gaspari 13 Derrick Whitsett 14 Jim Quinn 15 Franco Santoriello 16 Mauro Sarni 17 James Roberts - Abdullah Azman - Stefano Biondi - Emeric Delczeg - Diego Martinez - Robert Mello - Geir Borgan Paulsen - Jocelyn Pelletier - Billy Saffold - Dan Smith - Joe Spinello - Emmanuel Weill Achim Albrecht 5 Eddie Robinson [1] 6 Rod Ketchens 7 Hamdullah Aykutlu 8 David Fisher 9 Jeff Poulin 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Rich Gaspari 12 Ray Williams 13 Fredon Bojaklee 14 Mario Carrier 15 James Roberts 16 Sean Jenkins 16 Berry Kabov 18 Emmanuel Weill 19 Gianluca Catapano 20 Nick Van Beeck, Eddie Robinson [1] 5 Derrick Whitsett 6 David Fisher 7 Rod Ketchens 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 Darrem Charles 10 Fauzi Hanst 11 Mario Carrier 12 Rich Gaspari 13 Jeff Poulin 14 Sean Jenkins 15 James Roberts 16 Jimmy Mentis 17 Emmanuel Weill 18 Gianluca Catapano 19 Nick Van Beeck 20 Joe Kobor Mike Matarazzo 6 Derrick Whitsett 7 J D Dawodu 8 Pavol Jablonicky 9 Eddie Robinson [1] 10 Achim Albrecht 11 Gunter Schlierkamp 12 Gary Strydom 13 Edouard Kawak 14 David Fisher 15 Philip Hernon Jr - Hamdullah Aykutlu - Fredon Bojaklee - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Emeric Delczeg - Sean Jenkins - Berry Kabov - Diego Martinez - Sergei Otroch - Jocelyn Pelletier - Marc Rainbow - Eusebio Serrano - Nick Van Beeck - Jose Vasquez (1) - Ian Wadley
Mike Matarazzo 3 Chris Cormier 4 Claude Groulx 5 Henderson Thorne 6 Gunter Schlierkamp 7 Willie Stallings 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 John Simmons 10 Mauro Sarni 11 Jeff Poulin 12 Rod Ketchens 13 Bruce Patterson 14 Joe Spinello 15 Art Dilkes 16 Craig Licker 16 Arnstein Mathsen 18 Bob Weatherhill - David Alleyne - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Kelvin Daniel - Fauzi Hanst - Joe Kabor - Berry Kabov - Allesandro Komadina - Mohamed Makkawy - Jimmy Momany - John Siembida - Dan Smith - Jack Smith - Ivory Turner III - Anthony Williams
Nimrod King
Sonny Schmidt
Albert Beckles
Henderson Thorne
Geir Borgan Paulsen
Renel Janvier
Darion Holiwell
J J Marsh
Bill Richardson
Tom Terwilliger
Gary Shelmerdine
Jari Leino
Juhani Hokkanen
Gianni Gasparini
Piero Antonio Dell'Amico
Soel Nouri
Macram Magdy
Luciano Andreose
Peter Andreas
Maurizio Santoro
John Diakayiannis
Jesus Lizcano
Juan Mazanero
Eusebio Esteban
Alfonso Gomez
François Gay
Flavio Baccianini
David Hawk
Sammy Ioannidis
Franco Santoriello
Adrian Batho
Tim Belknap
Quincy Roberts
Kevin McGaunn
Jerry Rodgers
Bernard Sealy
Van Walcott Smith
John Siembida
Tevfik Ulusoglu
Ricardo Gya ,
Peter Andreas -
Flavio Baccianini -
Adrian Batho -
Francois Boisvert -
Rosario Bonaccorsi -
Hayrettin Dinger -
Nasser El Sonbaty -
Jean Luc Favre -
Sammy Ioannidis -
Jari Leino -
Patrick Lynn
- Jerry Rodgers -
Franco Santoriello -
Bernard Sealy -
Dan Smith -
Nordine Zouareg
Samir Bannout -
Albert Beckles -
Joseph Dawson -
Frank Hillebrand
- Pavol Jablonicky -
Wilhelm Jasinowski -
J J Marsh -
Mike Matarazzo -
Andreas Munzer
Adrian Batho
John Brown
Steve Brisbois
Van Walcott Smith
Jerry Rodgers
Dan Smith
Tim Belknap
Francis Benfatto
Renel Janvier
Frank Hillebrand
Ron Love
Rich Gaspari
Mike Ashley
Mike Matarazzo
Bertil Fox -
Samir Bannout -
Eddie Ellwood -
David Hawk -
Peter Hensel
Kevin McGaunn
Mauro Sarni
Ray McNeil
Flavio Baccianini
Bob Paris
Ronnie Coleman
Darrem Charles
Patrick Lynn
Allan Ichinose
Albert Beckles
Terry Mitsos
Benedetto Mondello
Fausto Ascani
Stefano Biondi
Lance Dreher
Nasser El Sonbaty
Eddie Ellwood
Juhani Hokkanen
Darion Holiwell
Sammy Ioannidis
Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳
Jay Matlock
Quincy Roberts
Van Walcott Smith
Alq' Gurley
Selwyn Cottrell
Steve Brisbois
Patrick Nicholls
Henderson Thorne
Eddie Ellwood
André Maille
Gary Shelmerdine
Charles Clairmonte
Fausto Ascani
Peter Andreas
Stefano Biondi
Richard Martina
Eddie Ellwood
Peter Andreas
Jurgen Hueber
Armando Defant
Pavol Jablonicky
Luciano Andreose
Emilio Scoop
Farid Sherkaoui
Diego Martinez
Steve Brisbois
Ron Love
Mike Ashley
Frank Hillebrand
Shane DiMora
Jerry Rodgers
Patrick Lynn
Peter Hensel
John Terilli
Tim Belknap
Shane DiMora
Allan Ichinose
Paul Jean-Guillaume
John Terilli
Tim Belknap
Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 –
Dan Smith
- Ray Williams
Shaun Davis
Pascal T'Hooft
Lee Priest
Thomas Zechmeister
Jean Pierre Fux
James Roberts
Jon Pal Pulkkinen
Juhani Hokkanen
Giuseppe Albi
Jean Pierre Fux 9 Vince Taylor 10 Markus Rühl 11 Mike Matarazzo 12 Pascal T'Hooft 13 Thomas Zechmeister 14 Shaun Davis 15 Ray Williams
Vince Taylor
Chris Cormier
Elek Joba
Istvan Kis Horvath
Laszlo Kovacs
Rolandus Buchinaskas
But, here is interesting list of IFBB pros that I somehow managed to beat at one time or another:
Jocelyn Pelletier
That said, You've now made it point numerous times to imply that the show I won was set up....
Yep....an impressive list for sure....and one that you could put Matt Mandenhall, or Edgar Fletcher's name in place of yours as well, IF they were able to turn pro in the USA or Nationals
Please.....why not provide a list of the competitors you beat at whatever show it is you won to turn pro at? Assuming you actually won any and didnt petition to turn pro.
That said, You've now made it point numerous times to imply that the show I won was set up....that would indicate that Manion was behind that impropriety....is this the reason you have said that you will take HIS place?
Just who are you accusing of "fixing" the show, Manion, Weinberger the promoter, or the 7 judges on the panel?
Bobby boy, I somehow respect you for all the efforts to win your position in the bodybuilding world but...do you really think that you won the show without your boss Jimmy "Soprano" Manion approval?
And, by the way, why don't you answer to the simple questions I posted for you and that here I resume for you (the first 2 questions are pretty old, 2006, but you've been busy I guess):
did they approve any of your proposals?
I know that you have had the meeting last Wed but I cannot see any report yet.
Did you get any improvement for those you represent?
I expected you to be as fast as you have been posting Lee suspension
when is your term over?
when is the next election?
Bobby boy, I somehow respect you for all the efforts to win your position in the bodybuilding world but...do you really think that you won the show without your boss Jimmy "Soprano" Manion approval?
And, by the way, why don't you answer to the simple questions I posted for you and that here I resume for you (the first 2 questions are pretty old, 2006, but you've been busy I guess):
did they approve any of your proposals?
I know that you have had the meeting last Wed but I cannot see any report yet.
Did you get any improvement for those you represent?
I expected you to be as fast as you have been posting Lee suspension
when is your term over?
when is the next election?
Can you tell me which NPC show has Dorian won?
How about my dear friend Sonny Schmidt, maybe Marcus Ruhl and Gunter...should I ask about our governor?
None...nor did they attempt to....as you did, but got beaten so badly that you had to go back to Yugoslavia to petition for a card...
Get your foot out of your mouth Pinocchio...it's been painful watching what kind of fool you make yourself here lately...
Just to emphasize to you (and others as ignorant as yourself): I in IFBB stands for INTERNATIONAL...
Now, contrary to US where about 50+ US citizens get their IFBB PRO CARD coming from NPC - most of the other countries have that many in entire history of the IFBB...
To break it to you, puppet - you would not place in top 5 in my country or most European countries as well...and I mean that...
LOL....right. As I asked earlier (which you conveiniently ignored)...list the names of the guys you beat in your pro qualifier...
Physique like yours with really NOTHING exceptional...or should I tell the truth - nothing even half way decent(?)...Not a single body part, or any aspect important to judging - shape, symmetry, balance, conditioning, super lean/muscular look, muscle quality, definition, dryness or hardness...separations (lack or none existing striations we've already established before)...Should I go on?
Doesn't speak much for yourself, as I beat you a few times..start the excuse train rolling now.....
It is pretty much wig with an ego, political protection and....hmmm...help me out here - what am I forgetting?
Wig - check, hair transplant - check, hair extensions - check, hair club discount coupon card - check, attitude - check, arrogance - check, ignorance - check..., tough talk genius - check,...and that's about it...Everything stops there - and we didn't even reach page with bodybuilding qualities necessary to compete at the highest level yet...
You seem obsessed with my hair....very strange. Tell you what, You can double or nothing the money you already owe my on the bet that my hair is real, and unaltered with any kind of work, etc....ever.
Except one - brown, really brown, really really brown, really really God damn brown - as brown as brown can be - NOSE - that keeps growing and growing...and growing...(nothing outlasts the Energizer...well, besides Pinocchio's nose...)
Oh well... ;)
Brown nosing WHO? I see you keep avoiding the question of why you are accusing Manion of fixing shows, or how you plan to take his place as you have mentioned numerous times.... for someone who alledgedly prides themselves on "saying whatever is on your mind"....you sure seem to be afraid to speak it now, dont you?
Bobby boy, I somehow respect you for all the efforts to win your position in the bodybuilding world but...do you really think that you won the show without your boss Jimmy "Soprano" Manion approval?
And, by the way, why don't you answer to the simple questions I posted for you and that here I resume for you (the first 2 questions are pretty old, 2006, but you've been busy I guess):
did they approve any of your proposals?
I know that you have had the meeting last Wed but I cannot see any report yet.
Did you get any improvement for those you represent?
I expected you to be as fast as you have been posting Lee suspension
when is your term over?
when is the next election?
blah blah blah blah blah yo momma
oh no you didn't blah blah blah blah blahfelons arguing with felons. quite entertaining. please continue (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
felons arguing with felons. quite entertaining. please continue (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
looking good there bob
Lunk Mullethead is right, we need real answers Chick, not questions instead of answers
Thats the best you got? A couple of guestposing pics?
Here is a better one.....post any pic of you at any time in your career (yes, even with your syntholed arms) to beat it.
While you're scouring the internet, or photoshopping a pic....maybe you can answer the questions you keep avoiding....
Wayne - where have you been?
I miss you man...call me - I might have an IFBB position for you soon...if you are interested of course...
And can you update me on those bobby questions you asked...I haven't been around for some time...you know - suspension kind a sucks...Nobody is there to stop Bobby...so he is getting his "power points" without a fight...
I'm sure Manion did approve....the judges got it right. Who did you have winning? Rusty? Claude?
You're asking for info from 3 years ago? Little late aren't you? Look it up, the proposals were posted for public....and yes, I'm sure most of them passed.
Election is whenever anyone else wants the job...or feels they could do a better job....I've offered to run against anyone qualified anytime they wish
Milos,
owning Pellettier in every single compulsory poses was a dream coming true and you lose the touch with reality. I'm not Wayne, as I told Horton, and I haven't see him in years. I'm just a bodybuilding fan with a little experience
Oh Bobby...I dont think Chick will come anywhere close to these photos of Milos, although the pic of Chick was impressive.
Please...take ANY photo of me - any...and put next to it...
Weirdest looking legs - with below average calves, quadriceps that has Possibly one head (vastus intermedius) that is MAYBE normal looking...Find me any top pro who has shape of legs you have - lateralis is about half shorter than it should have been (any reasons for that Bobby?)...Medialis - oh so below average...
Waist...one of - Olympia proportions (read - H-uge...) with abs visible under the special light three times a year in Antarctic...
Chest - fucked up middle part, missing upper and not so great lower...with almost for Rippley's believe it or not...or maybe Guinness (?) - NOT A SINGLE STRIATION??
And same goes for deltoids...
Arms - oh so faboulous - you can clarify where should be biceps and where suppose to be triceps - separations, tie-inns, anything worth mentioning - none existent...
And there goes the wig...
I'll give you 5 points for that.
It does look almost as it is not 100% synthetic...What is it horse hair?
WOW!
What a bodybuilder - sure top 15 in 14TH exit from the left on highway 5 North novice competition (oopps - almost forgot: masters division ;))
OK than...what's the whether like in NY?
Milos,
owning Pellettier in every single compulsory poses was a dream coming true and you lose the touch with reality. I'm not Wayne, as I told Horton, and I haven't see him in years. I'm just a bodybuilding fan with a little experience
I dont think Chick will come anywhere close to these photos of Milos, although the pic of Chick was impressive.
Thats the best you got? A couple of guestposing pics?Lookin good. Chic.
Here is a better one.....post any pic of you at any time in your career (yes, even with your syntholed arms) to beat it.
While you're scouring the internet, or photoshopping a pic....maybe you can answer the questions you keep avoiding....
Indeed - I destroyed him - didn't I?Damn Milos whats you favorite ab excercises those photos are tremendous 8)
Now, I know you are patriot so I am taking a chances with this one...but - you think Bobby could stand next to Jocelyn - and hold his own...
And - please don't be bias...
Also - put Bob's wig on Pellettier...and Jocelyn's watch on Bob...and than go pose by pose... ;)
Lookin good. Chic.
You are not like a oily world famous crazy guy here. ;)
Call Wayne, I kguess you have his numbers, and ask him.And I am going to say this and swear under the bible: I love Wayne.
I'm flattered you think I'm Wayne 'cause I really respect him and, as for you, I miss him and his talent in running pro bodybuilding.
you're the sexually confused Chinaman who got bitch slapped by Milos' wife right?Well You are slapped by your life.
Oh Bobby...
Please...take ANY photo of me - any...and put next to it...
Weirdest looking legs - with below average calves, quadriceps that has Possibly one head (vastus intermedius) that is MAYBE normal looking...Find me any top pro who has shape of legs you have - lateralis is about half shorter than it should have been (any reasons for that Bobby?)...Medialis - oh so below average...
Waist...one of - Olympia proportions (read - H-uge...) with abs visible under the special light three times a year in Antarctic...
Chest - fucked up middle part, missing upper and not so great lower...with almost for Rippley's believe it or not...or maybe Guinness (?) - NOT A SINGLE STRIATION??
And same goes for deltoids...
Arms - oh so faboulous - you can clarify where should be biceps and where suppose to be triceps - separations, tie-inns, anything worth mentioning - none existent...
And there goes the wig...
I'll give you 5 points for that.
It does look almost as it is not 100% synthetic...What is it horse hair?
WOW!
What a bodybuilder - sure top 15 in 14TH exit from the left on highway 5 North novice competition (oopps - almost forgot: masters division ;))
Indeed - I destroyed him - didn't I?
ehmm, well... you had 6 out 7
Now, I know you are patriot so I am taking a chances with this one...but - you think Bobby could stand next to Jocelyn - and hold his own...
Once I called that comparison but the head judge Jimmy "Soprano" Manion rejected it
And - please don't be bias...
Also - put Bob's wig on Pellettier...and Jocelyn's watch on Bob...and than go pose by pose... ;)
I never consider anything but muscles in a bodybuilding show[/glow]
The mad mans arms are ama level in spite of his oil and tons of gear. ;DSo you are saying Milos's arms were all oil?
Got to be the same approval Jimmy "Soprano" Manion and his crew usually try to give to the judging panel a couple of hours prior contest.
I'm asking from 3 years ago 'cause you never replied. I'm not late, I'm busy.
Could you be so kind to provide a link or to list which passed and which not?
So you're telling me there is no election day but just a friendly meeting that could be set up?
I'm sure you agree that isn't exactly a decent procedure
So you are saying Milos's arms were all oil?Before not, and his arms were looking like strings.
And I am going to say this and swear under the bible: I love Wayne.
I am not being sarcastic...Our "disagreements" were just business as usual...nothing personal...
I will bring back Wayne - as sports NEEDS HIM!
Since Milos refuses to offer up a front double Bi for comparison....;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL....nice arms, oilcan
Since Milos refuses to offer up a front double Bi for comparison....
LOL....nice arms, oilcan
Thats the best you got? A couple of guestposing pics?For the Hell we give you here Chick I gotta give to you thats a nice photo ;)
Here is a better one.....post any pic of you at any time in your career (yes, even with your syntholed arms) to beat it.
While you're scouring the internet, or photoshopping a pic....maybe you can answer the questions you keep avoiding....
Still waiting Milos...
obsessed?
For the Hell we give you here Chick I gotta give to you thats a nice photo ;)
Bob,
how can you claim to be an interational rep, when you haven't even left the country?
Do pros outside the USA (not connected to Manion) fall outside your concern?
btw - buying imported illegal drugs does consitute any "international" experience.
Chick...Milos recently stated in his interview with OFF TOPIC radio, that he recived a document stating that he would be allowed to be reinstated with the IFBB, if he agreed not to sue over the Paul Chua incidents...others have verified said document.
How do you feel about this, and does this not undermine not only your credibility, (as you called Milos's a fool for standing up to the IFBB, and refused to stick up for him), but the IFBB's credibility as well?
M!
First of all, I never said Milos was a fool for standing up to the IFBB....his issue was with Paul Chua, and my only comment was on his failure to follow protocol and going through the proper channels to make for a quick resolution....
The document is for real...which he violated even before it could be signed/ not signed...irrelevant anyway as Milos wishes to preserve his right to sue the IFBB.
As for my "refusal to stick up for him"....once again, you have no idea what your talking about. I never had a horse in the race, and dont have anything to do with Paul Chua (nor have I ever met him), asin BB, or IFBB amateur....
I talked with Milos, said I didn't doubt what he was saying, or his accusations, but was concerned about his approach and his lack of proof (which ultimately was his reason for suspension)....I'm the one who put together Milos' appeal, at his request, and without his assisstance (as he was out of the country, and the deadline was imminent)...even though I had no obligation to do so.....submitted it to the IFBB on his behalf.
I believe Milos THOUGHT he was doing the right thing, and meant well, but went with the wrong approach....throwing out allegations against an official without providing proof, is a suspentionable offense.
There have been many other issues with Milos over the years, this is only one...
What was he supposed to do..just turn a blind eye to it. If all he did was quietly go to Manion...then nothing would have happend...by forcing so much public scruntiy on the issue then it forced a lot of other heads to put pressure on Chua....if you remember when this ordeal was going on a year or so ago ..there were a LOT of Asian posters...posting on the message boards, (including this one), about current, and past corruption...part of this campaign was to vindicate Milo's who was busy being crucified by the IFBB.
Criticizing an athlete's physique on the radio or on the internet should be a 'suspentionable' offense for the appointed pro athletes rep. Being a stooge, patsy and puppet should also be 'suspentionable' for the athletes' rep.
Here is Bob's logic: Milos is suspended so is not a pro athlete. Bob Chick is a bona fide asshole. Of that there is no doubt whatsoever.
Still waiting Milos...
I believe Milos THOUGHT he was doing the right thing, and meant well, but went with the wrong approach....throwing out allegations against an official without providing proof, is a suspentionable offense.
There have been many other issues with Milos over the years, this is only one...
care to expand on this robert?Yes "Bob", while you are elaborating on that, could you tell us a bit more about the Barnes and Noble manager you gangbanged with Tom while your girlfriend sat at home and wondered where you were?
Still waiting Milos...if there was an "abs/ thighs" mr Olympia....you would surely be undefeated....sadly, the rest of the body counts as well....which you lack.
post up any double bi you can find of yourself...we'll let the people here vote.
Still waiting for you to address the questions I asked....Mr. "I say what I want"....
First of all, I never said Milos was a fool for standing up to the IFBB....his issue was with Paul Chua, and my only comment was on his failure to follow protocol and going through the proper channels to make for a quick resolution....
What is the proper protocol? Ignore the issue and it will go away? ::)
The document is for real...which he violated even before it could be signed/ not signed...irrelevant anyway as Milos wishes to preserve his right to sue the IFBB.
Can't violate an agreement that was never agreed upon, simple common sense, dummy. ::)
As for my "refusal to stick up for him"....once again, you have no idea what your talking about. I never had a horse in the race, and dont have anything to do with Paul Chua (nor have I ever met him), asin BB, or IFBB amateur....
We can tell by your absolutely professional mannerisms in this thread and others where you have repeatedly insulted Milos that you have no horse in this race, dipshit. ::)
I talked with Milos, said I didn't doubt what he was saying, or his accusations, but was concerned about his approach and his lack of proof (which ultimately was his reason for suspension)....I'm the one who put together Milos' appeal, at his request, and without his assisstance (as he was out of the country, and the deadline was imminent)...even though I had no obligation to do so.....submitted it to the IFBB on his behalf.
No obligation? He was an athlete and you are the athletes rep? It's what you volunteered to do, dummy ::)
Once I called that comparison but the head judge Jimmy "Soprano" Manion rejected it
;D ;D ;D Hi Wayne! ;) ;) ;)Sounds as if someone was given the head judge HEAD ;)
I don't hate Bob. He represents the aspect of bodybuilding I don't approve of. You know, the inside guys who tell the muscleheads what to do.
Still waiting Milos...if there was an "abs/ thighs" mr Olympia....you would surely be undefeated....sadly, the rest of the body counts as well....which you lack.
post up any double bi you can find of yourself...we'll let the people here vote.
Still waiting for you to address the questions I asked....Mr. "I say what I want"....
Milos clearly was the better bodybuilder.
I don't hate Bob. He represents the aspect of bodybuilding I don't approve of. You know, the inside guys who tell the muscleheads what to do.No , this is the kinky old depraved homos ..they want bigger and freakier and are willing to pay big dollers for these guys to do this..just another reason to show homosexualality is a disgusting illness of the mind..
No , this is the kinky old depraved homos ..they want bigger and freakier and are willing to pay big dollers for these guys to do this..just another reason to show homosexualality is a disgusting illness of the mind..Sounds as if he wants to be in Bob's ass right now ;)
Please.....why not provide a list of the competitors you beat at whatever show it is you won to turn pro at? Assuming you actually won any and didnt petition to turn pro.
That said, You've now made it point numerous times to imply that the show I won was set up....that would indicate that Manion was behind that impropriety....is this the reason you have said that you will take HIS place?
Just who are you accusing of "fixing" the show, Manion, Weinberger the promoter, or the 7 judges on the panel?
When you get job - you'll realize why you must wait every so often - genius.Yet you make other posts that dodge his questions?
;)
...oh and soley for this showing alone, you should be disqualified from bodybuilding FOR LIFE!Why are you melting down for hairyBASTARD ?
EMBARRASSING to say the least!
Look at that smile on your face...you look....proud?
Obvious synthol usage like this deserves immediate disqualification from bodybuilding to send a clear message for those wanting to try something STUPID like you have done in this showing!
I believe Milos THOUGHT he was doing the right thing, and meant well, but went with the wrong approach....throwing out allegations against an official without providing proof, is a suspentionable offense.Exactly, thats why he has tons of enemies and his hair turned into white because of the stress.
There have been many other issues with Milos over the years, this is only one...
Abs/thighs undefeated Mr. Olympia you say? Surely?
Wow Bobby - you do love me... :-*
I wish I could find something nice to say back about you...but amen...There is nothing there...never was nor will ever be...someone with physique only Sponge Bob might want to emulate , no intelligence (educate yourself genius), proper education nor any kind of interest for anything other than the discounted hair restoration and extreme obsession for self-admiration of his mirror reflection....and personality to match.
No ability to comprehend, understand and elaborate even simplest of issues IFBB athletes would certainly like to hear about; no common sense, no honor, integrity, honesty or sense of pride...
You claim to be busy "working", and cant answer the questions...but somehow found time to type your usual crap....amazing.hhahahahahaa from the king of dodging questions! hahahahahaa
Got time NOW?
You say I have no comprehension, yet you fail to answer the simplist of questions...
You've exposed yourself so badly it's not even funny.
While your at it "Mr. Integrity"....explain the integrity of blasting your perfect physique with synthol...and virtually almost killing yourself....yep, real "genius" material there champ...
also still waiting for your almighty front double bi sht to compare...wasn't the one I posted good enough?
answer the "simplist of questions" or STFU
You think?
What do you mean by clearly?
CRYSTAL CLEAR?
Who makes more money...........Milos or Chick?
Milos what is you favorite ab excercise = you had brutal abs
;)Thanks dude
Who makes more money...........Milos or Chick?Well when Chick pays Milos for the bet Milos will be making more ;)
;)
252lbs on stage - Bobby...
;DOwning NASSER right there = team nasser take a look
Care to compare...
i will always have milos' back...
Care to compare...
Well...no wonder he doesn't have one on stage....YOU have it!
Gues that answers that...
Guess that answers that...yep (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
maybe you can finally get around to answering the questions you keep dodgingnot mention ice machines, lean years, g4p or the mirage eh bobby
No problem
I see you still cant seem to find a front double bi (with or without oil)...must be a shot somewhere with those 17 in. pythons up in the air like wheatstalks in the breeze...
While your "too busy working" to post posing pics....maybe you can finally get around to answering the questions you keep dodging...
Add to them, how you believe the judging here in the states is fixed, as per your LAST statement
Yeah...no problem, as in, thats why I placed ahead of you... more than you/ me.
Of course...you were going to explain how Manion and the judging system is crooked, especially here in the US....right?
Still waiting for your answers....busy guy that you are
And the front double bi, oilcan
here...enjoy bro...See what you could have looked like IF you knew how to train, eat, take supps...THINK with your own head....
http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?topic=11192.0
I have 12 noon appointment and 2PM training...C-YA later...and can you post ANY photo of you that could make top 5 at Orange County Muscle Classic...
these photos are pathetic...
Oh, you don't have any better...
I understand...
http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?topic=11192.0 ;)
What question I need to answer Bobby?
Something about Manion?
What exactly?
That every NPC show goes with his approval?
You're a waste of time...and exposed (as usual)...talk a good game, and thats about it. Mr. "I say what I want, blah, blah, "
I dont have to prove I could have won the Orange co....I won the USA...something you could have only dreamed of....(probably when you were dead last, and crying yourself to sleep that night).
Still waiting for your list of guys you beat in your "alledged" pro qualifier, you remember...the guys I couldn't crack the top 5...
how many pro shows does milos have?I think he entered like 75 shows
taken at your own gymChick I have to admit thats a good pic, even though I'm a Milos fan cant take it away from you. Nice job.
Chick, Milos.........I know how this can be solved..........an Ab Shoot Off!!!!Yes current pics ;)
Post your current abs shots right here and let getbig decide!! :D
Chick, Milos.........I know how this can be solved..........an Ab Shoot Off!!!!
Post your current abs shots right here and let getbig decide!! :D
DOITno old pics current ones ;)
BTW - that was my REAL last contest I trained for - 1999 British grand Prix...placed 5th (ronnie/flex/kevin/dexter), beating Nasser (top 5 at the Olympia week earlier), Marcus...etc...
And same results were in Italy day earlier...
showing that European judges actually judge the show...don't give out placings in advance... ;)
Yes current pics ;)
DOIT
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=286053.0;attach=335360;image)
Compared to the front double bi pic this looks quite bad. Looks like a sausage. Bloated with very weird shape. Milos, with all his insulin use, never had this mushy look.
Note: looks great compared to most of us here of course, only comparing to other pros.
who knows, maybe Bob used just as much slin as Milos.
:D
You're a waste of time...and exposed (as usual)...talk a good game, and thats about it. Mr. "I say what I want, blah, blah, "
I dont have to prove I could have won the Orange co....I won the USA...something you could have only dreamed of....(probably when you were dead last, and crying yourself to sleep that night).
Still waiting for your list of guys you beat in your "alledged" pro qualifier, you remember...the guys I couldn't crack the top 5...
I dont lay any claim to bing an "international rep"....I'm the rep the the Pro League of the IFBB. I represent those who are a part of it....where they're from is irrelevant.
Whats your point?
taken at your own gym
Oh yeah...how could I ever forget...He could of been on those drugs he had gotten with in a pharmacy with no prescription ;)
Members coming up to the front desk saying - there is some weird looking clown yelling - "bring on ronnie coleman"... ::)
taken at your own gym
You don't seem to understand.
The IFBB is an international organization. (hence the use of the word "international").
You (like others) think that because Jim Manion is in charge, the IFBB pro league is simply an extension of the NPC.
Hence your lack of regard to pros living outside the USA.
http://www.docssports.com/about.htmMust of been the Novice level?
1989 Overall NPC Coastal USA Championship...Hmm?
Not on muscle memory for some reason?
Owning NASSER right there = team nasser take a lookNasser looks like the devil in this shot.. :-\
Nasser looks like the devil in this shot.. :-\Brutal ownership of Nasser there ;)
Mishko = perfection , the ideal phicic as kyomu says.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=286053.0;attach=335344;image)
Pathetic is what pathetic does...puppet...
Genius - where will Dorian place have he entered USA or Nationals....like I did 1989...(to get paid trip, hotel...and opportunity to see someone very special...which I did...I was told at the prejudging that I should not be on the stage Bozo...)
But, anyway...you keep insisting that your 6th-tier physique could have hang with me in first ten years of my pro career (you remember - when I qualified 10 consecutive years for mr. Olympia - regularly beating ALL the guys - that for teaching you lessons for 14 years in the NPC...)
So, big boy...explain how and why I was able to beat all the guys that beat you in the NPC shows...and when they come to big league - IFBB PRO league that is, with more time and experience under their belt than when they were winning NPC shows - they fall short against me....for 10 years...[ NPC shows - you were so desperately entering for only 14 years, having your ass kicked...by just about anyone...until you agreed that closing eyes, bending over and accepting the "gift" is small price to pay to be where I was for over a decade...] ?
Who did I beat in my pro debut?
Albert Beckless, Steve Brisbois, Tim Belknap, Franco Santorielo, John Brown...
Milos.......what about The Ab Shoot Off between you and Chick?
Rules are simple.....post a current pic of your abs and let getbig decide.
Must of been the Novice level?
Oh no...I would never enter handicap show...Only OPEN... ;)
You wouldnt enter the show because you would have gotten your ass beat as I did twice before that...you seem to embrace the judging when it suits you, then cry foul when it doesn't....Post a current pic of your abs bitch.
Still waiting for you to explain yourself, loser....
Still awaiting your explanation as to how your going to take Manions job, as you've stated...
How Manion fixed the shows for me to win them...
your list of alledged competitors you beat to gain your pro status
Milos the mouth....still nothing but mouth
Oh yeah...how could I ever forget...
Members coming up to the front desk saying - there is some weird looking clown yelling - "bring on ronnie coleman"... ::)
Now I know you're making shit up....there were NEVER any members there when I was shooting.Your halitosis out of control?
WOW, impressive Bobby...
I found this on musclememory.com
Now I see why you keep mentioning LAST PLACE on National level show...You had how many exactly?
And don't confuse my "entertaining" to enter the contest I shouldn't had (for my personal reasons) where I knew I would be disqualified when they realize who I was - as it happened at the prejudging...to LAST PLACE FINISH...
It was NO CONTEST for me...
But, take a look of all these great US/National champions how they measured against me once they turned PROFESSIONAL...to get slight idea of reality...pathetic puppet in puberty with pubic hair for your wig...
Brutal ownership of Nasser there ;)
Nice excuse....fact is, you werent good enough. Period. You had to go back to Yugoslavia and petition for pro status...no mention of you winning the world championships, or any other major title.
Lets look at some of those guys you would have had to beat:
Heavyweights USA/ Nationals
1989- Eddie Robinson /USA
Troy Z Nats
1990- AAron Baker/ Alq Gurley
1991- Kevin Levrone/ Mike mattarazzo
1992- Chris Duffy/ Flex Wheeler
1993- Mike Francios/ Chris Cormier
1994- Paul Demayo/ Dennis Newman
1995- Don Long/ Phil Hernon
1996- Jay Cutler/ Craig Titus
Do we really need to go on further?
Who are you believing you were beating?
bob!Bobs been owned more than a black man in a police station.
who is owning who???
Bobs been owned more than a black man in a police station.LMAO :D ;) :D
I'm trying to deduce what the end game is supposed to be here, but my suspicions are there isn't one.
With that logic - with your zero victories as a pro I am indefinitely better than you, left? (handicap or senior citizens "special" division contest you shamelessly won by virtue of swallowing substantial amount of specific "biological substrate" similar to Nasser's shoulder producing cocktail - shouldn't and doesn't count Bobby...
I'll give you a dollar for each and every striation visible on your beyond polished physique bro...But crack doesn't count as striation so I see about 50 cents worth...Unless you can show me some pics...or you prefer taking Pinocchio detecting test...?
Are we still at Milos - you would never turn pro if you had to compete in NPC...(besides my two Overall NPC victories and inability to compete at National Championship without citizenship... ::))
But, here is interesting list of IFBB pros that I somehow managed to beat at one time or another:
Jay Cutler, Pavol Jablonicky,Aaron Baker - Darrem Charles - Paul Dillett
Michael Francois , Charles Clairmonte , Mike Matarazzo
Gunter Schlierkamp , Claude Groulx 8 Gianluca Daniele 9 Marko Savolainen 10 Giuseppe Albi 11 Ken Jones 13 Federico Focherini 14 David Smith (2),Aaron Baker - Darrem Charles - Paul Dillett - Claude Groulx - Ahmad Haidar - Johnny Moya - Gunter Schlierkamp
Sergey Shelestov , Oleg Protas ,Mike Matarazzo 11 Eusebio Serrano 12 Giuseppe Albi 13 Javier Cristobal 14 Eduardo DeLaAsuncion
Ernie Taylor 4 Mike Matarazzo 5 Pavol Jablonicky 6 Claude Groulx 7 Don Long Henderson Thorne 9 Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Derrick Whitsett 11 Hamdullah Aykutlu 12 Willie Stallings 13 Rod Ketchens 14 Shaun Davis 15 Ingvar Larsson - David Alleyne - Stefano Biondi - Abdul Bouhafs - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Kelvin Daniel - David Dearth - Michio Grubbs - Fauzi Hanst - Roland Kickinger - Allesandro Komadina - Greg Kovacs - Craig Licker - Mohamed Makkawy - Arnstein Mathsen - Jimmy Momany - Sergei Otroch - Jocelyn Pelletier - Jeff Poulin - Marc Rainbow - Marcelis Safdie - Dan Smith - Ivory Turner III, Porter Cottrell 7 Mike Matarazzo 8 Flavio Baccianini 9
Gunter Schlierkamp 7 Claude Groulx 8 Jeno Kiss 9 Gustavo Badell 10 Gianluca Daniele 11 Clive Salz 12 Federico Focherini 13 Ken Jones 14 David Smith (2) 15 Christian Placeor, Jay Cutler 13 Brian Buchanan 14 Pavol Jablonicky 15 Henderson Thorne 16 Sylvester Soloman 17 Alq' Gurley, Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Alq' Gurley 11 Don Long 12 Fauzi Hanst 13 Eddie Robinson [1] 14 Oleg Zhur 15 Stan McCrary 16 Ron Coleman 17 Daryl Stafford 18 Roland Kickinger, Anthony Williams 9 Brian Buchanan 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Eddie Robinson [1] 12 Oleg Zhur 13 Fredon Bojaklee 14 Craig Licker 15 Roberto Morisho 16 Ingvar Larsson 16 Bob Weatherhill, Vince Taylor 7 Dexter Jackson 8 Darrem Charles 9 Gunter Schlierkamp 10 Alq' Gurley 11 Patrick Lynn 12 Don Long 13 Renel Janvier 14 Jeff Long (1) 15 Roland Kickinger, Nasser El Sonbaty 7 Markus Rühl 8 Peter Elvis Brown 9 Colin Write 10 Jamo Nezzar 11 John Hodgson 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Oleg Zhur 14 Rod Ketchens 15 Dayo Audi 16 Jean Pierre Fux 17 Gustavo Badell 18 Ken Jones, Jay Cutler 4 Darrem Charles 5 Gunter Schlierkamp 6 Lee Priest 7 Alq' Gurley 8 Don Long 9 Patrick Lynn 10 Willie Stallings 11 Anthony Williams 12 Ahmad Haidar 13 Rod Ketchens 14 Oleg Zhur 15 Renel Janvier 16 Jeno Kiss 17 Fredon Bojaklee 18 Yohnnie Shambourger 19 Roland Kickinger - Emeric Delczeg - Fauzi Hanst - Milton Holloway - Ken Jones - Jason Marcovici - Kevin O'Grady - Bruce Patterson - Zvi Soika - Sylvester Soloman, Ernie Taylor 7 Johnny Moya 8 Darrem Charles 9 Porter Cottrell 10 Orville Burke 11 Claude Groulx 12 Jason Arntz 13 Tom Prince 14 J D Dawodu 15 Dennis James 16 Stan McCrary 17 Eduard Van Amsterdam 18 David Fisher - David Alleyne - Gustavo Badell - Fredon Bojaklee - Darien Bond - Kenneth Brown - Gianluca Daniele - Johannes Eleftheriadis - Fauzi Hanst - Istvan Kis Horvath - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Rod Ketchens - Jeno Kiss - Craig Licker - Christian Lobarede - Patrick Lynn - Mohamed Makkawy - Benedetto Mondello - Omid Parsa - Bruce Patterson - Mike Quinn - Grant Thomas - Ivory Turner III - Innocent Ukpong - Sdika Zvi, Markus Rühl, Pavol Jablonicky, Jay Cutler, Jean Pierre Fux
Porter Cottrell 4 Claude Groulx 5 Jason Arntz 6 Henderson Thorne 7 Don Long 8 Eddie Robinson [1] 9 David Fisher 10 Anthony Williams 11 Stan McCrary 12 Rod Ketchens 13 Craig Licker 14 Eddie Abbew 15 Kenneth Brown 16 Darien Bond 17 Fredon Bojaklee 18 Eric Alstrup 18 Ken Jones 18 Mark Lampard 18 Christian Lobarede 18 Max Maffuci 18 Jason Marcovici 18 Benedetto Mondello 18 Raffaele Morandini 18 Dennis Newman 18 Rudy Soliman - Jean Pierre Fux
Nasser El Sonbaty 7 Markus Rühl 8 Jeff Long (1) 9 Oleg Zhur 10 Luigi Sarni 11 Mauro Sarni 12 Jean Pierre Fux 13 Cvetko Stojmenovski 14 Gustavo Badell 15 Hassan Kark 16 Ken Jones 17 Mike Quinn 18 Allesandro Komadina
Bob Cicherillo 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Johnny Moya 14 Johannes Eleftheriadis 15 Michael Morris 16 Eddie Abbew 17 Robert Washington - Darien Bond - Roland Cziurlock - Serge Dessel - Dennis Francis - Jean Pierre Fux - John Hodgson - Milton Holloway - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Greg Kovacs - Bernhard Kunze - Christian Lobarede - Alison Maria - Mustafa Mohammad - Dennis Newman - Jamo Nezzar - Bruce Patterson - Sylvester Soloman - Rodney St Cloud - Eduard Van Amsterdam, Jeff Long (1) 9 Johnny Moya 10 Christian Lobarede 11 Michael Morris 12 Jamo Nezzar 13 John Hodgson 14 Michael Sheridan 15 Rodney St Cloud 16 Darien Bond 17 Roland Cziurlock - David Dearth - Serge Dessel - Nicolae Giurgi - Istvan Kis Horvath - Alison Maria - Rudy Soliman - Eduard Van Amsterdam, Thomas Benagli 8 Mustafa Mohammad 9 Eddie Abbew 10 Michael Morris 11 Alexander Vichnevski 12 Jeff Long (1) 13 Tommi Thorvildsen 14 Paul Dillett 14 Jostein Ødegården 16 Nelson DaSilva 17 Istvan Kis Horvath 18 Christian Lobarede 19 Berry Kabov 20 Nicolae Gurgi, Rodney St Cloud 11 Toney Freeman 12 Heiko Kallbach 13 Jeff Long (1) 14 Michael Morris 15 Ronny Rockel 16 Craig Richardson 17 Idrise Ward-El 18 Bruce Patterson 19 Tommi Thorvildsen 20 Milton Holloway - Gustavo Badell - Fred Bigot - Leon Brown - Nelson DaSilva - Jeramy Freeman - Jean Pierre Fux - Valentine Jabes - Ken Jones - Berry Kabov - Rod Ketchens - Aaron Maddron - Oleg Makchatsev - Evgeny Mishin - Mustafa Mohammad - Jocelyn Pelletier - Kamal Abdul Salam El Gargni - Michael Sheridan - Rudy Soliman - Clifton Torres - Alexander Vichnevski - Wong Ngai Hong
J J Marsh 6 Kevin McGaunn 7 Mauro Sarni 8 Albert Beckles 9 Terry Mitsos 10 Darion Holiwell 11 André Bilodeau 12 Sammy Ioannidis 12 Benedetto Mondello 14 Quincy Roberts 15 Flavio Baccianini 16 Eddie Ellwood 17 Joe Spinello 18 Joseph Dawson 18 Prem Chand Degra 18 Khalil El Amin 18 Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 18 Frank Tomchak 18 Phil Williams
Henderson Thorne 7 Ray McNeil 8 Mauro Sarni 9 10 Geir Borgan Paulsen 11 Darrem Charles 12 Dan Smith 13 Allan Ichinose 14 Ronnie Coleman 15 Guy Ducasse - André Bilodeau - Francois Boisvert - Dominico Cirullo - Nasser El Sonbaty - Jose Guzman - Darion Holiwell - Sammy Ioannidis - Casey Kucharyk - Patrick Linquet - Jay Matlock - Quincy Roberts - Gary Shelmerdine - Joe Spinello - Phil Williams
Samir Bannout - Ronnie Coleman - Miroslaw Daszkiewicz - Jose Guzman - Juhani Herranen - Patrick Nicholls
Ron Love 6 Alq' Gurley 7 Mohammed Benaziza 8 Francis Benfatto 9 Bertil Fox 10 Mike Ashley 11 David Hawk 12 Geir Borgan Paulsen 13 Paul Jean-Guillaume 14 Dan Smith 15 Peter Hensel 16 Allan Ichinose 17 Khalil El Amin
Mauro Sarni 5 Henderson Thorne 6 Ronnie Coleman 7 Jim Quinn 8 Chris Duffy 9 Joe Spinello 10 Kevin McGaunn 11 Thierry Pastel 12 Thomas Varga 13 Jason Marcovici 13 Tony Pearson 15 Vernon Gauthier 16 Koen Balceon 17 Mike Winters 18 Van Walcott Smith 19 Terry Mitsos 20 Andreas Cahling 20 Armando Defant Casey Kucharyk 20 Jay Matlock 20 Albert Scantlebury
Ian Harrison 7 J J Marsh 8 Ray McNeil 9 Ron Love 10 Peter Reid 11 Eddie Ellwood 12 John Sherman 13 Arthur Buurman Sonny Schmidt 5 Viggo Snoghøj 6 Ron Love 7 Ray McNeil 8 Miroslaw Daszkiewicz 9 John Sherman 10 Arthur Buurman 11 Mats Kardell Ray McNeil 5 Kevin Levrone 6 Hamdullah Aykutlu 7 Viggo Snoghøj 8 Sonny Schmidt 9 Ron Love 10 Denis Adass 11 Miroslaw Daszkiewicz 12 Olev Annus 13 Hassan Kark 14 Giuseppe Albi 15 John Sherman 16 Arthur Buurman Hamdullah Aykutlu 7 Pavol Jablonicky 8 Ray McNeil 9 J J Marsh 10 Selwyn Cottrell 12 John Sherman 13 Johann Schatz 14 Arthur Buurman Hamdullah Aykutlu 6 Ray McNeil 7 J J Marsh 8 Ron Love 9 Denis Adass 10 John Sherman 11 Arthur Buurman 12 Bajares Elidio
Jim Quinn 5 David Dearth 6 Ronnie Coleman 7 Henderson Thorne 8 Kevin McGaunn 9 Lee Priest 10 Joe Spinello 11 Viggo Snoghøj 12 André Bilodeau 13 Koen Balceon Jason Marcovici 15 Terry Mitsos 16 Fathi Krishi 17 Juhani Herranen 18 Andreas Cahling 19 Juhani Hokkanen 19 Quincy Roberts
Henderson Thorne 7 Mauro Sarni 8 Mike Matarazzo 9 Pavol Jablonicky 10 Berry DeMey 11 Jim Quinn 12 Aaron Baker 13 Joe Spinello 14 Jason Marcovici 15 Chris Duffy - Olev Annus - Koen Balceon - Armando Defant - Eddie Ellwood - Vernon Gauthier - Jose Guzman - Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 - Casey Kucharyk - Jay Matlock - Kevin McGaunn - Thierry Pastel - Tony Pearson - Jocelyn Pelletier - Mike Quinn - Quincy Roberts - Michael Scionti - Dan Smith - Thomas Varga Lou Ferrigno J J Marsh 13 Flavio Baccianini 14 Ron Love 15 Ray McNeil 16 Mauro Sarni 17 Hamdullah Aykutlu - Arthur Buurman - Pavel Grolmus - Mike Matarazzo - Johann Schatz - John Sherman Juan Marquez 5 Ray McNeil 6 Henderson Thorne 7 Mauro Sarni 8 John Sherman 9 Aaron Baker 10 Thierry Pastel 11 Joe Spinello 12 Viggo Snoghøj 13 Terry Mitsos 14 Jason Marcovici 15 Juhani Hokkanen 16 Tony Pearson 17 Vernon Gauthier - Andreas Cahling - Juhani Herranen - Mats Kardell - Fathi Krishi - Jocelyn Pelletier
Gunter Schlierkamp 9 Porter Cottrell 10 Sonny Schmidt 11 Mauro Sarni 12 Peter Reid 13 Diego Martinez 14 Samir Bannout
Patrick Nicholls 8 Eddie Ellwood 9 Koen Balceon 11 Hamdullah Aykutlu 12 Juhani Herranen 13 Juhani Hokkanen
Roland Cziurlock 6 David Dearth 7 Porter Cottrell 8 Gunter Schlierkamp 8 Sonny Schmidt 10 Peter Reid 10 Mauro Sarni 12 Guido Conrad 13 Samir Bannout
Roland Cziurlock 6 Alq' Gurley 7 Patrick Nicholls 8 Sonny Schmidt 10 Hamdullah Aykutlu 11 Koen Balceon 12 Samir Bannout 12 Gianluca Daniele 12 Juhani Herranen Juhani Hokkanen 12 Macram Magdy 12 Diego Martinez, Porter Cottrell 6 David Dearth 7 Sonny Schmidt 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 Mauro Sarni 10 Eduardo Martinez 11 Cesar Pemental 12 Giuseppe Albi 12 Fausto Ascani 12 Samir Bannout 12 Eduardo DeLaAsuncion, Thierry Pastel 15 Ronnie Coleman 16 John Sherman 17 Achim Albrecht 18 Roland Cziurlock - Samir Bannout - David Dearth - Mike Quinn - Gunter Schlierkamp - Henderson Thorne, Claude Groulx 5 Rich Gaspari 6 Johnnie Morant 7 Jeff Poulin 8 James Roberts 9 Jason Marcovici 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Kevin McGaunn 12 Ray Williams 13 André Charette 14 Casey Kucharyk 15 Joe Spinello 16 Robert Mello 17 Quincy Roberts 17 Billy Saffold - Denis Adass - André Bilodeau - Stefano Biondi - Tony Domenech - Terrence Hayes - Juhani Herranen - Bruce Patterson - Jocelyn Pelletier, Ronnie Coleman 7 Darrem Charles 8 Henderson Thorne 9 Derrick Whitsett 10 Geir Borgan Paulsen 11 Jim Quinn 12 James Roberts 13 Craig Licker 14 Svend Karlsen 15 Tony Domenech 16 Juhani Herranen Darrem Charles 6 David Dearth 7 Derrick Whitsett 8 Henderson Thorne 9 Jeff Poulin 10 Mauro Sarni 11 Claude Groulx 12 James Roberts 13 Jason Marcovici 14 Kevin McGaunn 15 Craig Licker 16 Bob Weatherhill 17 David Fisher 17 Quincy Roberts 19 Ray Williams 20 Denis Adass 20 André Bilodeau 20 Emeric Delczeg 20 Tony Domenech 20 Svend Karlsen, Johnnie Morant 8 Eddie Robinson [1] 9 Darrem Charles 10 Guy Ducasse 11 Claude Groulx 12 Rich Gaspari 13 Derrick Whitsett 14 Jim Quinn 15 Franco Santoriello 16 Mauro Sarni 17 James Roberts - Abdullah Azman - Stefano Biondi - Emeric Delczeg - Diego Martinez - Robert Mello - Geir Borgan Paulsen - Jocelyn Pelletier - Billy Saffold - Dan Smith - Joe Spinello - Emmanuel Weill Achim Albrecht 5 Eddie Robinson [1] 6 Rod Ketchens 7 Hamdullah Aykutlu 8 David Fisher 9 Jeff Poulin 10 Henderson Thorne 11 Rich Gaspari 12 Ray Williams 13 Fredon Bojaklee 14 Mario Carrier 15 James Roberts 16 Sean Jenkins 16 Berry Kabov 18 Emmanuel Weill 19 Gianluca Catapano 20 Nick Van Beeck, Eddie Robinson [1] 5 Derrick Whitsett 6 David Fisher 7 Rod Ketchens 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 Darrem Charles 10 Fauzi Hanst 11 Mario Carrier 12 Rich Gaspari 13 Jeff Poulin 14 Sean Jenkins 15 James Roberts 16 Jimmy Mentis 17 Emmanuel Weill 18 Gianluca Catapano 19 Nick Van Beeck 20 Joe Kobor Mike Matarazzo 6 Derrick Whitsett 7 J D Dawodu 8 Pavol Jablonicky 9 Eddie Robinson [1] 10 Achim Albrecht 11 Gunter Schlierkamp 12 Gary Strydom 13 Edouard Kawak 14 David Fisher 15 Philip Hernon Jr - Hamdullah Aykutlu - Fredon Bojaklee - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Emeric Delczeg - Sean Jenkins - Berry Kabov - Diego Martinez - Sergei Otroch - Jocelyn Pelletier - Marc Rainbow - Eusebio Serrano - Nick Van Beeck - Jose Vasquez (1) - Ian Wadley
Mike Matarazzo 3 Chris Cormier 4 Claude Groulx 5 Henderson Thorne 6 Gunter Schlierkamp 7 Willie Stallings 8 Hamdullah Aykutlu 9 John Simmons 10 Mauro Sarni 11 Jeff Poulin 12 Rod Ketchens 13 Bruce Patterson 14 Joe Spinello 15 Art Dilkes 16 Craig Licker 16 Arnstein Mathsen 18 Bob Weatherhill - David Alleyne - Mario Carrier - Gianluca Catapano - Kelvin Daniel - Fauzi Hanst - Joe Kabor - Berry Kabov - Allesandro Komadina - Mohamed Makkawy - Jimmy Momany - John Siembida - Dan Smith - Jack Smith - Ivory Turner III - Anthony Williams
Nimrod King
Sonny Schmidt
Albert Beckles
Henderson Thorne
Geir Borgan Paulsen
Renel Janvier
Darion Holiwell
J J Marsh
Bill Richardson
Tom Terwilliger
Gary Shelmerdine
Jari Leino
Juhani Hokkanen
Gianni Gasparini
Piero Antonio Dell'Amico
Soel Nouri
Macram Magdy
Luciano Andreose
Peter Andreas
Maurizio Santoro
John Diakayiannis
Jesus Lizcano
Juan Mazanero
Eusebio Esteban
Alfonso Gomez
François Gay
Flavio Baccianini
David Hawk
Sammy Ioannidis
Franco Santoriello
Adrian Batho
Tim Belknap
Quincy Roberts
Kevin McGaunn
Jerry Rodgers
Bernard Sealy
Van Walcott Smith
John Siembida
Tevfik Ulusoglu
Ricardo Gya ,
Peter Andreas -
Flavio Baccianini -
Adrian Batho -
Francois Boisvert -
Rosario Bonaccorsi -
Hayrettin Dinger -
Nasser El Sonbaty -
Jean Luc Favre -
Sammy Ioannidis -
Jari Leino -
Patrick Lynn
- Jerry Rodgers -
Franco Santoriello -
Bernard Sealy -
Dan Smith -
Nordine Zouareg
Samir Bannout -
Albert Beckles -
Joseph Dawson -
Frank Hillebrand
- Pavol Jablonicky -
Wilhelm Jasinowski -
J J Marsh -
Mike Matarazzo -
Andreas Munzer
Adrian Batho
John Brown
Steve Brisbois
Van Walcott Smith
Jerry Rodgers
Dan Smith
Tim Belknap
Francis Benfatto
Renel Janvier
Frank Hillebrand
Ron Love
Rich Gaspari
Mike Ashley
Mike Matarazzo
Bertil Fox -
Samir Bannout -
Eddie Ellwood -
David Hawk -
Peter Hensel
Kevin McGaunn
Mauro Sarni
Ray McNeil
Flavio Baccianini
Bob Paris
Ronnie Coleman
Darrem Charles
Patrick Lynn
Allan Ichinose
Albert Beckles
Terry Mitsos
Benedetto Mondello
Fausto Ascani
Stefano Biondi
Lance Dreher
Nasser El Sonbaty
Eddie Ellwood
Juhani Hokkanen
Darion Holiwell
Sammy Ioannidis
Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳
Jay Matlock
Quincy Roberts
Van Walcott Smith
Alq' Gurley
Selwyn Cottrell
Steve Brisbois
Patrick Nicholls
Henderson Thorne
Eddie Ellwood
André Maille
Gary Shelmerdine
Charles Clairmonte
Fausto Ascani
Peter Andreas
Stefano Biondi
Richard Martina
Eddie Ellwood
Peter Andreas
Jurgen Hueber
Armando Defant
Pavol Jablonicky
Luciano Andreose
Emilio Scoop
Farid Sherkaoui
Diego Martinez
Steve Brisbois
Ron Love
Mike Ashley
Frank Hillebrand
Shane DiMora
Jerry Rodgers
Patrick Lynn
Peter Hensel
John Terilli
Tim Belknap
Shane DiMora
Allan Ichinose
Paul Jean-Guillaume
John Terilli
Tim Belknap
Katsumi Ishimura 石村勝巳 –
Dan Smith
- Ray Williams
Shaun Davis
Pascal T'Hooft
Lee Priest
Thomas Zechmeister
Jean Pierre Fux
James Roberts
Jon Pal Pulkkinen
Juhani Hokkanen
Giuseppe Albi
Jean Pierre Fux 9 Vince Taylor 10 Markus Rühl 11 Mike Matarazzo 12 Pascal T'Hooft 13 Thomas Zechmeister 14 Shaun Davis 15 Ray Williams
Vince Taylor
Chris Cormier
Elek Joba
Istvan Kis Horvath
Laszlo Kovacs
Rolandus Buchinaskas
Bobs been owned more than a black man in a police station.
Yep...all those non-answers are really "owning me"....LOL
another fine addition by the queen team
LOL...nice compressed photo's....the ONLY way you would look half this thickBob do you not think nasser looks like the devil in this shot? I think we have found the second comming of Damian.pictures capture an instant moment in time and this shows nassers true face , how he acts with the bitterness and back stabbing lends to this even more :o
Now I know you're making shit up....there were NEVER any members there when I was shooting.
Well, whoever has it...doesn't have to show it...Real man know that... ;)
Even my cousin Tanja Todorovic was telling me that Bob thinks he is better than Ronnie Coleman - he keeps shouting Bring on Ronnie Coleman...and members that witness one of your million daily personal embarrassments reporting the same to me were: Raul, Johnatan, Boomer and Chris...that I could remember...God knows how many kept for themselves...but getting the picture of narcissistic side of the sport...something they always wondered how come I am not showing...hahahahhahahhha
Well, whoever has it...doesn't have to show it...Real man know that... ;)
Even my cousin Tanja Todorovic was telling me that Bob thinks he is better than Ronnie Coleman - he keeps shouting Bring on Ronnie Coleman...and members that witness one of your million daily personal embarrassments reporting the same to me were: Raul, Johnatan, Boomer and Chris...that I could remember...God knows how many kept for themselves...but getting the picture of narcissistic side of the sport...something they always wondered how come I am not showing...
Well, whoever has it...doesn't have to show it...Real man know that... ;)
Even my cousin Tanja Todorovic was telling me that Bob thinks he is better than Ronnie Coleman - he keeps shouting Bring on Ronnie Coleman...and members that witness one of your million daily personal embarrassments reporting the same to me were: Raul, Johnatan, Boomer and Chris...that I could remember...God knows how many kept for themselves...but getting the picture of narcissistic side of the sport...something they always wondered how come I am not showing...
Well, whoever has it...doesn't have to show it...Real man know that... ;)
Now I know you're making shit up....there were NEVER any members there when I was shooting.
Apparently it'll all be settled by a current ab shot.
Well, he already said that I own him there...(like with everything else...)
Right....
Got any answers yet? Or are you still avoiding the questions?
Milos owning Bobby's mind since 1992
In a battle of wits,the cooler head usually prevailsBob is unarmed.
See, I'm not so sure. Bob strikes me as a little more composed. Milos, on the other hand, strikes me as more excitable and giving in to emotion. In a battle of wits, the cooler head usually prevails.oh brother
This is a stupid thread. Anyone with two eyes can see Milos at his prime was a far better bodybuilder than Bob at his prime.
Of course, in the IFBB asskissing department, Bob clearly wins!
Who cares? Milos is the one who had to resort to posting pics of himself, as he refuses to answer the tough questins....a classic sign of someone who has painted themselves into a corner.dont forget they started WW 1 and we had to end it LOL
Says he "doesn't have time to answer", yet somehow has found time to post pic after pic...now you see why he's known as "Milos the Mouth"
dont forget they started WW 1 and we had to end it LOL
he refuses to answer the tough questins....a classic sign of someone who has painted themselves into a corneryou should talk dumbass felon
LOL...nice compressed photo's....the ONLY way you would look half this thickExactly, Milos is way thinner than Nasser.
after reading this thread all i can say isJust I am not that childish and dont have that much hate in my mind.
1. retire from it kyomu, the language barrier is bad enough for you
2. drama
MILOS = THE IDEAL BODYBUILDING BODYNO ARMS = FVCKED UP PHYSIC;)
you should talk dumbass felon
come on, don't be rude asshole >:(Maybe you should stick to bb.com where they chodle each others nuts all day, you seem to like that kind of action.
Maybe you should stick to bb.com where they chodle each others nuts all day, you seem to like that kind of action.
I think you should give Chick his nuts back, you've been on them long enough.
....if you don't like it I have some nuts for YOU to coddle
kyomu has so much Paco bukake on his face, he's on 3 grams of test a week just from the residuals.Yet, You are keeping on drinking man juice of the mad man contaminated with his hormone and still staying obese as usual. ;D
I think you should give Chick his nuts back, you've been on them long enough.
Yet, You are keeping on drinking man juice of the mad man contaminated with his hormone and still staying obese as usual. ;DLMAO :D
Up your pic,you FAT LARD ASS who dont have balls to diet down. ;)
FAT LARD ASS. ;D
Why the fuck would I diet down? I have no desire to let other men stare at my half naked body like you do.
Does it get you off to know other men are ogling you while you pose in your panties for them?
Sick fuckin gooks. :-X
LOL, yeah Bob has done so much with his life, posing in his panties for other men to judge, that's great! :D
Why the fuck would I diet down? I have no desire to let other men stare at my half naked body like you do.
Does it get you off to know other men are ogling you while you pose in your panties for them?
Sick fuckin gooks. :-X
Get off the BODYBUILDING board...guys like you who contribute NOTHING to this site need to start having your IP banned.
Not quite sure what "shows" you've been to...but I've never worn panties for other men to judge.
You got some weird shit going through your pointy little head.
Get off the BODYBUILDING board...guys like you who contribute NOTHING to this site need to start having your IP banned.
Milos, kyomu has a LARGE message for you;)
NO ARMS = FVCKED UP PHYSICYET HIS PHYSIC = DESTROYS PACO BY A LONG SHOT.MILOS = PERFECTION..PACO = LUMP OF SHIT
Who cares? Milos is the one who had to resort to posting pics of himself, as he refuses to answer the tough questins....a classic sign of someone who has painted themselves into a corner.
Says he "doesn't have time to answer", yet somehow has found time to post pic after pic...now you see why he's known as "Milos the Mouth"
This sums you up perfectly....oh the irony...exactly
M!
You dont know that....nor do we know if Ben Weider had any knowledge of Chua's bullshit. I'm sure had Ben been privvy to it, he would have seen to it immediately, especially since Raphael has been in the picture for 30 years.
Speculation at best...
Not quite sure what "shows" you've been to...but I've never worn panties for other men to judge.What have you contributed? Not a fucking thing. Oh wait, all the run arounds to every question you are asked, yeah, you're real informative. ::)
You got some weird shit going through your pointy little head.
Get off the BODYBUILDING board...guys like you who contribute NOTHING to this site need to start having your IP banned.
What have you contributed? Not a fucking thing. Oh wait, all the run arounds to every question you are asked, yeah, you're real informative. ::)
Loser.
I answer every question asked thats not retarded...like most of your posts.Bullshit, you dodge questions like a professional criminal.......oh, wait.....
Bullshit, you dodge questions like a professional criminal.......oh, wait.....
Name a question I've dodged....
It's your hero Milos that cant seem to find the time to answer anything....get on his case.
Name a question I've dodged....u never answered for me
It's your hero Milos that cant seem to find the time to answer anything....get on his case.
what was your drug stack when you won the prestigious IFBB Masters championship title?
and where exactly did you obtain your drugs?
I've never dodged that question, I've answered it many times:
I dont give out that info to anonymous internet trolls
Sounds like dodging a question to me..
Seriously though...of course you cant list where you obtained your gear from...but there is no reason why you cant go over what your cycles looked liked...especially since you are now retired from the stage.
Its not like we have a bunch of impressionable 12 year olds reading getbig.... By continuing to dodge that issue it makes it look like you have something to hide.... By being open about that type of information...you are doing more to actully enlighten others as to what it takes to be on an IFBB stage...
M!
what was your drug stack when you won the prestigious IFBB Masters championship title?
and where exactly did you obtain your drugs?
Name a question I've dodged....You never answered my question about what your girlfriend Brenda was doing while you and Tom were gangbanging the manager at Barnes and Noble.
It's your hero Milos that cant seem to find the time to answer anything....get on his case.
Name a question I've dodged....Do you have prescription for ALL the GH you take? or do you just "walk in" and get them at any pharmacy?
It's your hero Milos that cant seem to find the time to answer anything....get on his case.
Sounds like dodging a question to me..
Seriously though...of course you cant list where you obtained your gear from...but there is no reason why you cant go over what your cycles looked liked...especially since you are now retired from the stage.
Its not like we have a bunch of impressionable 12 year olds reading getbig.... By continuing to dodge that issue it makes it look like you have something to hide.... By being open about that type of information...you are doing more to actully enlighten others as to what it takes to be on an IFBB stage...
M!
Do you have prescription for ALL the GH you take? or do you just "walk in" and get them at any pharmacy?
I dont take GH....should, as I believe it's beneficial in the long run...just too lazy to go to the Doc.Hmm... i have nothing against you, but for some reason i remember a bunch of threads about how you claimed that all the gear you took were legit ( as in you had prescription), and for the GH, you would just walk in the pharmacy and buy it. i could be wrong, but if you know what im talking about, shine some light on it plz.
There is every reason why I choose not to....namely, that it is of no advantage to me, and I refuse to provide a blueprint to anyone.
Why do I care if people are enlightened as to what It takes? We don't seem to have a shortage of Pro's last time I checked...so somehow, by some miracle, without my specific help....guys are finding their OWN way....as I did.
See...this is what I am talking about...you are beyond full of shit... are you telling me that YOU NEVER asked other pros, amatures, etc, for cycle information as you were coming up the ranks... and perhaps you were lucky enough to have someone kind enough to give you a lot of valuable information....
You're too good to help out others with what you know? Of course not everyone is going to respond to different things the way you did...but still..you could be providing usefull information...instead you choose to skirt the issue..
This isn't the only issue you have been dodging as of late either...
M!
See...this is what I am talking about...you are beyond full of shit... are you telling me that YOU NEVER asked other pros, amatures, etc, for cycle information as you were coming up the ranks... and perhaps you were lucky enough to have someone kind enough to give you a lot of valuable information....
You're too good to help out others with what you know? Of course not everyone is going to respond to different things the way you did...but still..you could be providing usefull information...instead you choose to skirt the issue..
This isn't the only issue you have been dodging as of late either...
M!
of course Chick has asked guys for tidbits of info concerning gear.....that's the way it's done...face to face, person to person.....not on an internet chat site.....he's not too good to give you info.....the real reason is ...what's the point?..you will never look like a pro anyway....if you REALLY want to know, fly out to where Bob lives, PAY him to work with you and then maybe he will tell you.....
The real question should be why is andreisdumman following Chick around defending him in every post?
What is their connection?
Seems like andre has quite the mancrush on chickerillo here.
The real question should be why is andreisdumman following Chick around defending him in every post?yep!
What is their connection?
Seems like andre has quite the mancrush on chickerillo here.
why do you follow me around?Why does andre follow me around?
The real question should be why is andreisdumman following Chick around defending him in every post?
What is their connection?
Seems like andre has quite the mancrush on chickerillo here.
You're wasting your time with this troll....he seems to think he's ENTITLED to answers, for some bizarre reason. He believes someone (me) OWE'S him something...
maybe andre should remove his lips from bobs ass for a second.....?agreed
maybe andre should remove his lips from bobs ass for a second.....?I heard he did once, long enough to get them around to Bobs balls.
agreed
enough is enough
I heard he did once, long enough to get them around to Bobs balls.
maybe andre should remove his lips from bobs ass for a second.....?
Because I have what's called critical thinking skills...I don't just beat up on a guy just because it's asinine and fashionable to do so....I realize when someone is being treated unfairly...
The only people being treated unfairly are those Bob claims to represent, all while he sells them down the river and cashes his paycheck.
okay..that's your opinion..but if thats so then why don't they throw Bob out?..like they did with Shawn Ray????...although Shawn claimed he supposedly quit
YET HIS PHYSIC = DESTROYS PACO BY A LONG SHOT.MILOS = PERFECTION..PACO = LUMP OF SHITReal bbing fan want to see freaky muscle on stage like;D
Please.....why not provide a list of the competitors you beat at whatever show it is you won to turn pro at? Assuming you actually won any and didnt petition to turn pro.
That said, You've now made it point numerous times to imply that the show I won was set up....that would indicate that Manion was behind that impropriety....is this the reason you have said that you will take HIS place?
Just who are you accusing of "fixing" the show, Manion, Weinberger the promoter, or the 7 judges on the panel?
okay..that's your opinion..but if thats so then why don't they throw Bob out?..like they did with Shawn Ray????...although Shawn claimed he supposedly quit
Talking with Goatballs is like talking to Basile....either way you're talking to an idiot.
I'm trying to figure out just what "paycheck" I'm cashing for a job thats volunteer with no compensation...?
...referring to your "job" as an IFBB Pro?
Talking with Goatballs is like talking to Basile....either way you're talking to an idiot.
I'm trying to figure out just what "paycheck" I'm cashing for a job thats volunteer with no compensation...?
Talking with Goatballs is like talking to Basile....either way you're talking to an idiot.
I'm trying to figure out just what "paycheck" I'm cashing for a job thats volunteer with no compensation...?
WTF is a Mishko
The question was to Goatballs....not you.
The AR position pays nothing, which makes his statement even more retarded
Bob, what are the requirements to be the Athlete's Rep? How long is the term? When are elections held?
1. To be a member of the IFBBwho are the "voters"?
2. 2 years
3. Next year, I believe....
who are the "voters"?
old people in Floridaseriously?
Talking with Goatballs is like talking to Basile....either way you're talking to an idiot.
who are the "voters"?
old people in FloridaAnother question Bob can't or won't answer.
Another question Bob can't or won't answer.
1. To be a member of the IFBB
2. 2 years
3. Next year, I believe....
1. To be a member of the IFBB
2. 2 years
3. Next year, I believe....
old people in Florida
Bob... in all seriousness... You claim that you have never dodged a question..and here is a valid question that you aren't getting anywhere near?
Who are the voters for this position? If all things were reasonable it would be up to the "Athletes" as you are their rep? Well in theory anyway...
Clearly having an "Athletes" rep appointed by the IFBB is a major conflict of interest, but I think everyone has figured that out by now.
1. To be a member of the IFBB
2. 2 years
3. Next year, I believe....
Bob... in all seriousness... You claim that you have never dodged a question..and here is a valid question that you aren't getting anywhere near?
Who are the voters for this position? If all things were reasonable it would be up to the "Athletes" as you are their rep? Well in theory anyway...
Clearly having an "Athletes" rep appointed by the IFBB is a major conflict of interest, but I think everyone has figured that out by now.
Bob avoiding direct answers is what keeps shit like this alive. Everyone knows the score, but Bob's habit of always keeping to the official line encourages people to pile on him. He's his own worst enemy, and he doesn't even know it.
No shame Bob still debates as if he has a chance in hell of winning over the flotsam on Getbig. I don't know what is sadder, the sorry state of the IFBB that needs stooges like Bob, or the even sadder reality that fair dinkum blokes like Milos and Lee get tarred and feathered by those who rule the Pro League.
Clearly, no honest bodybuilder would associate with those who run the IFBB. Nor would the IFBB welcome outspoken, intelligent athletes. The whole community is one of kowtowing and obeying. It really is sickening. Guys with huge muscles but no backbone.
These discussion forums are a waste of time. Bodybuilders, collectively, are too stupid to get things run properly. They figure if they play ball they will eventually win, right, Bob?
No shame Bob still debates as if he has a chance in hell of winning over the flotsam on Getbig. I don't know what is sadder, the sorry state of the IFBB that needs stooges like Bob, or the even sadder reality that fair dinkum blokes like Milos and Lee get tarred and feathered by those who rule the Pro League.
Clearly, no honest bodybuilder would associate with those who run the IFBB. Nor would the IFBB welcome outspoken, intelligent athletes. The whole community is one of kowtowing and obeying. It really is sickening. Guys with huge muscles but no backbone.
These discussion forums are a waste of time. Bodybuilders, collectively, are too stupid to get things run properly. They figure if they play ball they will eventually win, right, Bob?
Yes, Bob, when Goatboy, myself and others give you a hiding it does get tiresome. You sure want that patsy pro athletes rep job badly, don't you!
I vote you stooge of the year for services to Manion.
Go back to taking pics of strangers, Basile...
Of course the athletes vote, who else would?
question is, of what interest is it to you?
Chick you seem to think that I just get off on harassing you, but this isn't the case. I just don't like being lied to. You have either lied, or taken a hypocritical stance on various topics for years now... I am hardly the first to take you to task about your lack of transparency.
Because a particular answer doesn't suit YOUR needs, doesn't make it a lie. If you want to have a rational debate, great, I'm all for it...but trying to debate when you dont have access to the info I do, or work within the system is mostly just speculation on your part...
I probably shouldn't care, or waste the time and effort, on this board rebutting you, but I care about bodybuilding, and we need to see a new paradigm shift in this industry...from the top down.
As do I, which is why I represent the athletes and have made significant change over the last 3 years
There is only a few people with enough juice to really get things moving in the right direction, and you are one of those people. Lobbing for more prize money at shows is a good start...but hardly a subversive action.
It's only ONE of many proposals I have submitted...and most of them have to do with judging criteria, and other topics of concern to the athletes
We need someone at the higher echelon that isn't afraid to call B.S. on the IFBB when it is appropriate, and is willing to address some of the more controversial issues plaguing the sport.
Which accounts for about 90% of the proposals I've submitted. If your unaware of the proposals, how can you make such a blanket statement? Based on what?
We are still seeing a lot of site injection/weird lumps at the top level, we still have a lot of top pros doing G4P/Gay themed pornography. Non-asthetic physiques are now the norm instead of the exception.
Disagree on all points....weird lumps are not the norm, and "lots" of top pro's doing G4P?? Clearly not the case....Name the top 15 guys....and while your at it...who do you consider "non asthetic" out of those guys?
There is still no transparency in regards to talking about Gear use. False promises/lies about the effectiveness of supplements are still standard in this industry. Now I'm not saying we should give gear too much credit and downplay the dedication, and hard work that goes into Bodybuilding...but we shouldn't just sweep it under the carpet either.
I dont even know where to start on this point...not sure what info you beleive should be out there, and why the onus rests on the pro's to supply it
You still haven't done anything to try and create a sexual harassment policy, nor have you, (as far as I know), taken the matter of sexual offers/for placings, seriously. We can debate how often this goes on, (probably not often), but it HAS happend, so there needs to be a whistle-blower policy in place to protect the athletes.
LOL...this is just laughable. Since you believe it HAS happened....I'll challenge you to name a specific instance. I do believe sexual harassment is against the LAW...which pretty much covers everyone and any instance...
However...as the case with Milo's has demonstrated...whistle blowing is not tolerated in the IFBB, and will only lead to being ostracized.
Failing to provide proof of allegations and not following protocol was what was not tolerated, and what he was suspended for....
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There is still no transparency in regards to talking about Gear use. False promises/lies about the effectiveness of supplements are still standard in this industry. Now I'm not saying we should give gear too much credit and downplay the dedication, and hard work that goes into Bodybuilding...but we shouldn't just sweep it under the carpet either.
I dont even know where to start on this point...not sure what info you beleive should be out there, and why the onus rests on the pro's to supply it
1. To be a member of the IFBB
2. 2 years
3. Next year, I believe....
The real question should be why is andreisdumman following Chick around defending him in every post?
What is their connection?
Seems like andre has quite the mancrush on chickerillo here.
Because I have what's called critical thinking skills...I don't just beat up on a guy just because it's asinine and fashionable to do so....I realize when someone is being treated unfairly...especially by those who haven't done crap in the sport and are denigrating others due to their own self-hatred...try being more positive is what I'm saying....all the hate and putting Bob down doesn't help us here at GetBig....
being funny with the stupid G4P stuff is fine ...it's funny...but calling Bob a "felon" crosses the line, and asking him for his stack is impolite and accomplishes nothing....
THINK
HA HA HA! That's your funniest posts ever! The way you follow Pandae around defending and getting involved in every one of his little pissing contest with other posters is disturbing. What is your connection?Faggy little bitch meltdown.
And what is the difference between what you do with Milos and what andre does with Chick? If anybody defends anybody you don't like they have a "man crush" or some kind of gay thing going. But no one, no one, spends more time on the board defending their buddies more than you do.
I'm a fan of Chick and I now have more respect for Milos for standing up to all the crap that knny187 and Switzenegger has given him regarding his wife and family. Real low life stuff. I hate to see them go at it like this. But, hey, it's GetBig.
But you, "chaos", are one pathetic son of a a beeyotch.
Defend your friends if you want but to bash others that do the same thing is so retarded.
BTW, as you like to tell me when I defend myself from Pandae's relentless and unprovoked personal attacks that have nothing to do with you: STFU!
HA HA HA! That's your funniest posts ever! The way you follow Pandae around defending and getting involved in every one of his little pissing contest with other posters is disturbing. What is your connection?
And what is the difference between what you do with Milos and what andre does with Chick? If anybody defends anybody you don't like they have a "man crush" or some kind of gay thing going. But no one, no one, spends more time on the board defending their buddies more than you do.
I'm a fan of Chick and I now have more respect for Milos for standing up to all the crap that knny187 and Switzenegger has given him regarding his wife and family. Real low life stuff. I hate to see them go at it like this. But, hey, it's GetBig.
But you, "chaos", are one pathetic son of a a beeyotch.
Defend your friends if you want but to bash others that do the same thing is so retarded.
BTW, as you like to tell me when I defend myself from Pandae's relentless and unprovoked personal attacks that have nothing to do with you: STFU!
Faggy little bitch meltdown.
Bob's a good guy but some people don't like him. If you stand for anything in life you're not going to please everybody. Anybody who goes through life without pissing off anybody and is liked by all is probably someone without strong convictions. They are more concerned with getting along and being liked and popular.
The problem that Bob has here is that people like to pile on. It's like the cowards that watch a fight and as soon as one goes down then they jump in to get in their little kicks to the head and stomach. Some popular posters will criticize Chick and then the cowards will just pile on.
I've never understood all the bashing Bob gets on this board. And even if you don't like him and think his physique sucks the guy has great hair. At least give him that.
I've never understood all the bashing Bob gets on this board.
It's pretty easy to understand if you understand Getbig. Getbig is all about truth, and there's nothing more hated around here than a hypocrite who continues to spout all of the "official lies" even in the face of a board full of people who know better.
As a person, Bob's probably okay... he's in a tough position given that he makes decent money and his continued income is dependant on him continuing to tow the official line. However, that doesn't change Getbig's dislike of the industry "powers that be" and their BS, so Bob will probably continue to have a target on his back around here.
Well, I'm not saying pros need to be singing the praises of gear, but endorsing bullshit supplements (99% of the supplements out there) is pretty fuccking disingenuous, wouldn't you say?
I've used supplements and I've used gear. So have you. You know as well as I do that supplements are total crap... but you'll never admit it.
1. To be a member of the IFBB
2. 2 years
3. Willing to lower your pride level
4. Have to able to say "yes" all the time to whatever the IFBB says
5. To be able to talk in a manner where even if everyone knows you are wrong you convince yourself you are right
6. Being able to spell "integrity" even without having any
7. Convince yourself you are actually representing the IFFB pro members and not just being a "yes" man to the IFBB and covering up all their bullshit
8. To spend a minimum of 75% of your free-time on the boards to absorb all the shit from everyone so the IFBB doesn't have to and they can spend more time counting their money
9. To take a minimum of 10 hours in a "double-talk/side-stepping" course so that any answer you give sounds half-way okay to a typical board member. (Only all others will realize it is complete bullshit and a way to cover your ass)
3. Next year, I believe....
Bob 2 things....(one statement & one question)
(1) It's more creepier to note that Basile showing up at someone's funeral unannounced & not even being associated as a family friend than it is taking pictures of strangers.
(2) Do you have the 'interest' any longer to try & be reinstated as the AR when the time comes for a new term?
I am just wondering if being the AR is even giving you any satisfaction. It wasn't for Shawn hence why he took the high road.
1. agreed
2. Of course I have interest, if I didn't I wouldn't do it. It gives me great satisfaction that I can make a difference and positivly influence the direction of pro BB...Shawn took no "high road", he knew that his rocky relationships would not be very productive in getting things accomplished and decided to step aside to allow for someone who could
2. Of course I have interest, if I didn't I wouldn't do it. It gives me great satisfaction that I can make a difference and positivly influence the direction of pro BB...Shawn took no "high road", he knew that his rocky relationships would not be very productive in getting things accomplished and decided to step aside to allow for someone who could
some great pictures of shawn talking to the police were posted on this website. that was proof shawn ratted on milos. this is theso called "Iowa incident" we hear about
Bob why was shawn's relationship with a lot of bodybuilders "rocky"?...I've heard two things and maybe you can clarify:
1. Shawn's ego was a problem..hence his problems with other BB'ers
2. Shawn got caught up in that whole mess with Milos..Milos claimed Shawn ratted him out to the FBI
if none of the above, then okay, or if you'd rather not comment then thats fine as well
Bob why was shawn's relationship with a lot of bodybuilders "rocky"?...I've heard two things and maybe you can clarify:
1. Shawn's ego was a problem..hence his problems with other BB'ers
2. Shawn got caught up in that whole mess with Milos..Milos claimed Shawn ratted him out to the FBI
if none of the above, then okay, or if you'd rather not comment then thats fine as well
some great pictures of shawn talking to the police were posted on this website. that was proof shawn ratted on milos. this is theso called "Iowa incident" we hear about
This is the definition of what a STOOGE is in the IFBB. Thanks, Chick. The Pro League is a closed shop of insiders who appoint the so-called pro athletes rep. I am amazed that Bob has enough gall to actually believe he makes a difference. His job is permanent and one of the requirements is to make sure no one else would ever want this position.
The bottom line is to keep thebodybuilderssheep in line and accepteverythingthe places they receive.
Are you referring to the security guards Shawn was seen talking to a BBing contest looked to be held in a high school gym? The same photo where it's obvious that he's mocking himself for being known as a rat, a parody that was set up merely for comical purposes?sweetheart i know it was a mocking Milos parody, i was just having more mock on Milos :) for old time sake
If that's the photo you're referring to, you really need to get out of the house more!
sweetheart i know it was a mocking Milos parody, i was just having more mock on Milos :) for old time sake
WOW!!!..unbelievable...your intellectual skills are worse than I thought :D
agreed X700....Good post....I'm happy that a guy like chick even bothers to post to answer some questions...having some fun with chick is one thing....calling him a felon and asking for his stack is rude, stupid and impolite.....and people are constantly piling on without even thinking things through...it's not a mancrush (although we ALL on GetBig have mancrushes in a sense or we wouldn't be here)..it's common decency.....
Luke told me he is going to compete again.
Here's another revelation for you, if I stopped being the AR tomorrow, my income is the same....I know that ruins 99% of your conspiracy theories, but hey...it's definately more fun than the truth, right?
His dad died, too?Someone needs to shop a pic of Vince with Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn: Funeral Crashers.
Someone needs to shop a pic of Vince with Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn: Funeral Crashers.
I wonder if Vince crashed Michael Jackson's funeral too? (or does he only do relatives of oily men in thongs?)
I wonder if Vince crashed Michael Jackson's funeral too? (or does he only do relatives of oily men in thongs?)
I wonder if he gets up and says a few words: "I feel like I almost knew Mr. _______________ ..."
I don't like the hypocrisy of funerals but would attend Goatboy's for sure.
All this talk about the pro athletes rep is bullshit. Why do we need such a position? Therein lies the answer. The Pro League needs a patsy and stooge to inform the muscleheads about what is required if they compete in the IFBB. They also need examples of what not to do. Compete elsewhere and you get suspended. Speak out and you get suspended. Did I miss anything?
Say what you like, but Bob C is part of the problem in professional bodybuilding. The idea of having pro cards is also bullshit. Just another trick to control the muscleheads. If the Pro League ran things properly they wouldn't need a stooge to explain controversial things to the flotsam.
Exactly! Chick has the balls to put himself out there and is therefore a target. Look, we all lament the sad state modern bodybuilding has become but people think that it's up to Bob to wave a magic wand and take us back to the days of Pumping Iron.
One of the more preposterous ideas is that Chick has a say on how much bodybuilders should get paid. Only one entity has that and it's the free market. Bodybuilders don't get paid as much as basketball players or baseball players or what have you because it doesn't bring in the cash like those sports do. It's not a main stream sport. Nobody forces anybody to become a bodybuilder (nobody forces anyone to become anything, dumb comment). You can do very well if you're top tier but just like MMA fighters and boxers, if you're just a journeyman it's going to be tough going.
Mr 1derful. I am not the problem in this sport. I finally read his name right. Mr Wonderful.
Problems with bodybuilding? Too many drugs and too much politics. Not enough competent judges. Obscure judging criteria for both sexes. Too many in the admin who are not bodybuilders. The list goes on.
A question. How many bodybuilders would go to the beach in the posing trunks they wear on stage? Yes, it is a circus and the costumes are way too brief. Lots of stuff happened over the years that is now accepted. Ronnie pulling his trunks up his crack led to that being commonplace among the pros.
Solutions? Well, they are simple but not easy to implement. We need new people starting at the top. We need a constitution that is going to be one that is followed because it is what bodybuilders want.
Once we get the organization straightened out we can clean up the sport. Rigorous drug testing and out of comp, too. It can be done but the IFBB are so afraid the pros will migrate elsewhere that they dare not do it. We need a proper medical committee to advise the organization. Research is also something that can be stimulated.
Bob and Manion have had their day and it is more patch up than providing what the bodybuilders want. They have no vision and what they offer is more of the same.
Why shouldn't the top winners be earning over $1,000,000/year for prize money? Well, what sponsors other than supplement companies will touch these athletes? No credibility because of the drugs that even Bob tolerates. Arnold could offer that at his show but the IFBB has a rule that no other contest can offer more than the Mr Olympia.
A question. How many bodybuilders would go to the beach in the posing trunks they wear on stage?
Good point.ah my best work of art so far 8)
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that he was some canadian bb champ that took no gear, & how everyone else in the fitness equipment industry makes poor quality machines.
I've never dodged that question, I've answered it many times:
I dont give out that info to anonymous internet trolls
what was your drug stack when you won the prestigious IFBB Masters championship title?
and where exactly did you obtain your drugs?
of course Chick has asked guys for tidbits of info concerning gear.....that's the way it's done...face to face, person to person.....not on an internet chat site.....he's not too good to give you info.....the real reason is ...what's the point?..you will never look like a pro anyway....if you REALLY want to know, fly out to where Bob lives, PAY him to work with you and then maybe he will tell you.....
Yesw, I could be of help to complete anonymous strangers on the internet....but I'm not.
I've been of great help to many of my friends over the years....post your real name/ info, and we'll see what we can do.
As of any other "issues"....I dont need to dodge any...thats your hero Milos.
You seem to have me confused with someone else.....I dont have anything to dodge, nothing to cover up, nothing I'm ashamed of, etc....you keep insisting I do, but come up snake-eyes when asked to pvide any details...
You were once a respectable poster on this site, now into the troll status as a boderline stalker, shit talking fool.....too bad.
Bobby,
when are you going to be a man of your words?
Or was the question to hard for you to answer?
You've avoided confessing your dirty little secrets, because you're a pussy.
Youre under some delusion that I owe you an answer,.....I'm here to remind you that you're an anonymous nobody on the internet.
You were handed the position by daddy Manion, and to date has an election ever occurred?
I know he once responded to me about the drug thing, he admitted it by saying "It was what everyone did at the time." He felt that one pill per day, or whatever low dose he took, wasn't enough to consider saying he took gear, I think.
The exercise machine thing, that's just funny. Because many of his machine ideas that he's had (one I can think of, tilting the Leg Extension back pad on an angle) have already been done. Maybe he doesn't see the piece in the gyms he goes to, but I remember quite a few of the gyms I went to/still go to, have the pieces he talks about with his "innovative ideas."
In fairness to Chick, nobody else will stand up except for Milos...and nobody seems to be on his side either.
Chick tried to organize a union a few times, with advanced notice and all. I believe the total count of people that showed up, was two. Tom Prince (when he was competing) and Craig Titus. And Titus didn't even show to the actual meeting place, he was off to the side trying to hear what would go down, as if a 250lb muscular dude can "hide" or be "inconspicuous!"
In fairness to Chick, nobody else will stand up except for Milos...and nobody seems to be on his side either.you've been a get bigger for a while, as i recall when this happened. shawn was on his side.
Chick tried to organize a union a few times, with advanced notice and all. I believe the total count of people that showed up, was two. Tom Prince (when he was competing) and Craig Titus. And Titus didn't even show to the actual meeting place, he was off to the side trying to hear what would go down, as if a 250lb muscular dude can "hide" or be "inconspicuous!"
you've been a get bigger for a while, as i recall when this happened. shawn was on his side.
Few guys post as themselves and even fewer are totally honest when they do post. I disclosed that I took 2 Dianabol tablets a day for a couple of months in 1970 before the Mr Canada contest that I won. When I posted that on Getbig some 'experts' refused to believe that was all I took because they felt the dosage wasn't high enough to generate much hypertrophy. Amazing how many experts inhabit the internet.
I have had a patent for my biceps-supinator machine. It is installed in my gym in Meadowbank. Icarian made leg extensions where you lean back more in the seated position. That design didn't take off and almost everyone else had users sitting just slightly leaning back. It isn't just tilting the back rest. The whole seat gets tilted. The problem with most of these machines is that when the weight is heavy you tend to get lifted off the seat because your center of gravity is too high. When you sit lower your center of gravity is lower and you tend not to lift off the seat as much. Feels better, too.
AS far as I know I was the first to make a leg extension with an adjustable back support and adjustable leg support. That was in 1975.
I have invented plenty of things re gym equipment and other manufacturers in Australia have given me credit or have copied some of my designs.
Who else here has designed anything?
I remember when Goodrum came out with this variation.
I remember when Goodrum came out with this variation.Yea Vince claims this works the glutes to the max :D
He was offered an opportunity to get it back in 09...he turned it down
He was offered an opportunity to get it back in 09...he turned it down
Been on GB since 01, when it was one thread with around (or up to) 200 responses, and you could post under another name with each post.
There's a few of us around still, but those days are long gone!
are you a fanboy or do you just like to kiss ass?
He was offered an opportunity to get it back in 09...he turned it downWhy did he turn it down Chick?
Chick should know by now that the muscleheads are afraid of speaking out. It doesn't pay because you will not place high if you do. Or you could get suspended.....permanentl y.
Even the thickest of muscleheads have figured this out. That is why Bob remains unchallenged for his appointed position. The only guy who would challenge him is suspended. They have
everything covered. Bob is there for as long as he wants that 'job'.
Vince can name names I will give him that.Now how corrupt was it back in the day Vince??How did this Paul Graham get elected and how much Money has he made from BB would you say more than the Athletes??
Could be because the position demands that a person must be agreeable to donating their time and efforts. Just a thought.
Good grief. The plain unadulterated fact is the IFBB is a closed shop. The whole show is a setup.Is that how you got your title? ???
Good grief. The plain unadulterated fact is the IFBB is a closed shop. The whole show is a setup.
He was offered an opportunity to get it back in 09...he turned it down
18000 reads wow this thread was a hit who woulda thunk it.hhahahahahaaaa ;D
Chaos = the Police.You've been saying this since yesterday, nobody believes you.
You've been saying this since yesterday, nobody believes you.
FAIL.
If Chaos was the police... I can affirm that he would be one of the scariest cops I've ever seen.LOL ;D
hhahahahahaaaa ;D
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Proof of da police.Why would you care about my postings so much???Stalker comes to mind.Police are in da house.I was browsing the who's online section and nticed you snitching like a backstabbing rat.
I was browsing the who's online section and nticed you snitching like a backstabbing rat.
I was browsing the who's online section and nticed you snitching like a backstabbing rat.chaos for g&o mod!!!
Albert Schnitch in da house.
chaos for g&o mod!!!
He was offered an opportunity to get it back in 09...he turned it down
I did?Milos, who was at the gym today? Big ass black dude?
What did I say - no thank you...?
I don't want/need my livelihood back?
I did?
What did I say - no thank you...?
I don't want/need my livelihood back?
I did?than u milos for keeping it honest unlike certain other bodybuilders who shall remain nameless
What did I say - no thank you...?
I don't want/need my livelihood back?
I did?
What did I say - no thank you...?
I don't want/need my livelihood back?
I wonder if these two laugh about this drama when they see each other at shows? BTW, is there a pro members meeting to be held this year at the O?
Jocelyn Pelletier and Ken jones aren't coming this year so it's been cancelled. ;D
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We can't imagine how Milos feels having a stooge like Bob Chick represent the professionals. It is a sham and the pros truly have no one representing them. Bob Chick is so ambitious he sold his soul years before he got the Masters gift.
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Aren't you tired of rambling the same old shit you've been for the past 4 years?
Epic Senile posting style.
Aren't you tired of rambling the same old shit you've been for the past 4 years?
Epic Senile posting style.
We can't imagine how Milos feels having a stooge like Bob Chick represent the professionals. It is a sham and the pros truly have no one representing them. Bob Chick is so ambitious he sold his soul years before he got the Masters gift.
No one cares how Milos feels, ImBasile...he's not involved anymore than you are, so his opinion counts as much as yours does
Basile cares
As I said....no one caresU tell em hun
supposedly Bob doesn't get paid for that position. could be another one of boob's lies, who knows? who really cares? in the end a bunch of rich old queers control the ifbb, the contests and placings and the athletes like their own personal little gay fifedom.does he even have a contract with the IFBB or is it such an embarrasment that he wouldn't tell you if he did? generally speaking, there is compensatory clause somewhere.
lol
I always did think it was strange that the company that ultimately pays Bobby is the same ultimate company which he's supposed to stand up against in defense of the athletes and try to maximize their positions rather then take the low road and make the company happy so his paychecks keep coming in, negotiate with the company some tiny arrangement that will look like he's doing something for the athletes, etc.. a bit of a conflict of interest no? No doubt he wants to keep his paycheck over losing his rep position.
Well stated for someone who doesnt know what they're talking about...I have contracts from BB.com and AMI....neither of which have anything to do with the IFBB per se...so ULTIMATELY...your wrong. My paychecks come in as a result of my work for a publication and my spokesman duties. I receive ZERO monies from the IFBB, pro league, or the AR position.
What is the exact defintion of this position? How was it awarded? How is it renewed? How many athletes have voted for this? How many actually like it? How many don't care cause they know it's a sham and a real rep position would give the punches like real unions do?
Funny you should bring up REAL unions...as it was MY efforts to start a union on behalf of the athletes that led to us having a rep position....a move which noone has has the balls to actually try, even your hero's Milos and Lee...
The thing I find the most unsettling is how Bobby is previous rants here constantly DEFENDS the ifbb organization time and time and time and time and time again.. many more times then the athletes position.
Bullshit....show one. Explaining how a rule is interpreted or how it applies isnt defending the IFBB by any stretch...that said, the "athletes position" isnt always justified, either....like Lee's for example....I've had more rules changed/ amended FOR the athletes benefit than anyone else in the history of the position (they did have a AR position years ago, but nothing was ever accomplished from it...) A simple check of FACTS would prove this, but as you stated, you've already scoured Getbig for all your info...
I actually haven't been able to find any specific posts where Bobby defends the athletes out right without throwing in a little puckered-up kiss to the IFBB in the background. Just seems sad, the athletes don't need anyone supposedly on their side to lecture and scold them instead of defend and support them. Athletes should be put in the #1 spot on his agenda as an athletes REP, not attempt to justify and defend and protect the IFBB.
Are you related to Basile? Give me an instance in which you believe I should have just blindly defended an athlete and failed to do so? I'm sure you have many....people like you and Basile amaze me that you try and have a intelligent debate with absolutly NO facts to back you up, expertise in the field, or any other way of knowing what ACTUALLY goes on other than this very site....makes you look like an ignorant ass.
Ahhh.. he's a secret double agent.. Bobby is actually the IFBB REP! :)
I guess that would kinda be like someone trying to negotiate a good bargain, the best possible bargain on a car purchase, yet you have $ ties and contracts with the car dealership which is trying to make the most profit from the sale.
I guess that would be the case if you werent wrong or misinformed on every single one of your points...
BobBlob,
You failed to respond to these questions;
What is the exact defintion of this position? How was it awarded? How is it renewed? How many athletes have voted for this? How many actually like it? How many don't care cause they know it's a sham and a real rep position would give the punches like real unions do?
No one cares how Milos feels, ImBasile...he's not involved anymore than you are, so his opinion counts as much as yours doeshhhahahaa What a great "Rep" you are!! LMAO.
I don't understand why muscleheads don't get it. Bob C is totally and completely innocent of all charges.
Milos and Lee are responsible for all the problems with the pro athletes. If those two wouldbehavecooperatehave done what Bob told them they wouldn't have any problems because everyone else is happy with the way things are.
No, both are responsible for their own actions....not the other athletes. And yes, had either guy actually followed advices that were given, I can guarantee that both would have been in a much better place.
As I've said for years...cant save people from themselves. Sometimes, Basile...you actually have to be responsible for your OWN CHOICES in life.
Well said Bob just look at the contempt Milos speaks with.He is Not what the IFBB need in their ranks after all he is now what they call a hasbeen.The only reason Milos doesn't want his Pro card back is so that he has a reason for NOT competing.Yeah, you're right.......it couldn't be the waiver they want him to sign saying he won't sue the fuck out if them.
IFBB Pro rules are tight.The one I like is that No Pro can talk smack about another Pro or the IFBB and I guess Milos lives not knowing that rule.OOOOOOOOOOOOPS.The one I like is about Pros not using drugs and being drug tested.
hahahahaha.... ;D ;D
What about the one that when an athlete is an IFBB Pro the Org can use their pics anyway they choose without Payment.Why the Fuck do you think the mags keep putting Arnold on the cover??He gets paid NOTHING as all IFBB Pros make not one penny from pics in mags or covers.Well done IFBB.Chick ???
Yeah, you're right.......it couldn't be the waiver they want him to sign saying he won't sue the fuck out if them.
Hey Chick, does every Pro sign one of those waivers when they get their IFBB Pro card ???
What about the one that when an athlete is an IFBB Pro the Org can use their pics anyway they choose without Payment.Why the Fuck do you think the mags keep putting Arnold on the cover??He gets paid NOTHING as all IFBB Pros make not one penny from pics in mags or covers.Well done IFBB.
How come the Pro Athletes Rep hasn't got the pros something for using photos? Seems an omission. No worries, Bob will get the lads something and even royalties for using photos in the past!
No, both are responsible for their own actions....not the other athletes. And yes, had either guy actually followed advices that were given, I can guarantee that both would have been in a much better place.
As I've said for years...cant save people from themselves. Sometimes, Basile...you actually have to be responsible for your OWN CHOICES in life.
Most of the time???I think Milos might call you on that one so would Priest.
How can anyone forget the look on Arnold's face when he won $1000 from Joe and Ben way back when! The Weiders were always parsimonious and Dave Draper as well as other champs were shortchanged for photos and endorsements. The Brothers of Iron went on to make hundreds of millions from the magazine empire yet the muscleheads got peanuts. Something not right there.
No worries, Bob will sort this out and redress any grievances the pros have.
[c o l o r=fuckstain]How can anyone forget the look on Arnold's face when he won $1000 from Joe and Ben way back when! The Weiders were always parsimonious and Dave Draper as well as other champs were shortchanged for photos and endorsements. The Brothers of Iron went on to make hundreds of millions from the magazine empire yet the muscleheads got peanuts. Something not right there.
No worries, Bob will sort this out and redress any grievances the pros have.[/color]
Well, little Melvin Goodrum is too young to remember champs like Clancy Ross, the King of Bodybuilders. He died in a nursing home not that long ago and seemed to be destitute. He endorsed the Weider products and was featured in all the Weider magazines for decades. I doubt Clarence made much from all that exposure.
Dave Draper probably would have won his case for compensation for using photos, etc., but settled out of court for peanuts. The Weiders made deals that benefitted mainly their empire. Those of us who admired those guys in the mags and on the covers never imagined they did it for peanuts but it appears that this is exactly what happened. Writers and photographers for those mags make peanuts, too.
The pro athletes rep should take up this battle. No wonder some of the champs turned to alcohol and drugs. They were screwed out of millions of dollars that should have been theirs.
I am way beyond the right in politics. Nice try. I am for justice, though, and always have been.
I never saw Vince G CSN MFT post at Ironage but he obviously reads all the muscle forums. Guess that is what you do when you areunemployedself-employed and live in the hills in North Carolina.
Clarence Ross should have been a wealthy man from all that exposure. He got peanuts and the Weiders made millions. Even Arnold knows this. So does Robby Robinson.
How can anyone forget the look on Arnold's face when he won $1000 from Joe and Ben way back when! The Weiders were always parsimonious and Dave Draper as well as other champs were shortchanged for photos and endorsements. The Brothers of Iron went on to make hundreds of millions from the magazine empire yet the muscleheads got peanuts. Something not right there.
No worries, Bob will sort this out and redress any grievances the pros have.
I never saw Vince G CSN MFT post at Ironage but he obviously reads all the muscle forums. Guess that is what you do when you areunemployedself-employed and live in the hills in North Carolina.
Clarence Ross should have been a wealthy man from all that exposure. He got peanuts and the Weiders made millions. Even Arnold knows this. So does Robby Robinson.
I would laugh too because Keith is right, I do sell that machine for the company. Its a R.O.M Crosstrainer and it sells for 14,000.
I don't mind people laughing at me for selling this machine because when I sell them, I take home a good chunk of pocket change.... ;D
and how many have you sold moron?
If you're under contract (which both gentlemen you mentioned have been at one time or another) then you get paid monthly for shoots/ interviews/ appearances/ etc....if you're nt, then its up to the individual to negotiate their own deal...many just want the exposure.
I've sold 4 of them.
As far as me being self employed is concerned, its a lot of hard work but it pays off big as I'm a pretty busy person. I collect no unemployment, food stamps, or welfare nor do I need to or have ever done. If I was ever in the situation where I would need extra money, I would simply pick up a part time job like I did unloading freight trucks when I needed the money to compete this year.
How about that. Little Melvin Goodrum unloading trucks to make a buck. I thought Queen Vissy paid all the bills!
You mean many simply get exploited, because its a raw deal or no deal at all. Good job looking out for your atheletes best interest Chick. :-\
Get over it old socialist... Draper was and still is fucking alcoholic who had a nervous beakdown.. the strongest survive and are successful. The weak complain and self pitty.
QFT!
A seller, whether goods or services (labor), will try to get as much money as they can. A buyer will always want to pay as little as they can. If either party can get a better deal they will go else where. Weider didn't put a gun to anybody's head. Ross, Draper, etc. weren't forced to do anything or accept anything. It's called a free market. And it's nobody else business other than the buyer and seller to agree on the price. My guess is that they did bodybuilding because they loved it and would have done it whether or not they were getting paid (as the vast majority still do). If they honesty thought they could make a good living, and a comfortable retirement, being just a bodybuilder then it's ignorance and delusion on their part. Arnold knew better.
Why isn't it exploitation of the buyer when and actor or an athlete gets a multimillion dollar contract? Did Arnold exploit anyone or cheat anyone when he got that insane dealer for his last Terminator movie? (It can be looked up on the net).
Many years ago someone asked Johnny Carson (after renewing his contract) why he thought he deserve millions of dollars. He just replied, "Because I could get it."
QFT!
A seller, whether goods or services (labor), will try to get as much money as they can. A buyer will always want to pay as little as they can. If either party can get a better deal they will go else where. Weider didn't put a gun to anybody's head. Ross, Draper, etc. weren't forced to do anything or accept anything. It's called a free market. And it's nobody else business other than the buyer and seller to agree on the price. My guess is that they did bodybuilding because they loved it and would have done it whether or not they were getting paid (as the vast majority still do). If they honesty thought they could make a good living, and a comfortable retirement, being just a bodybuilder then it's ignorance and delusion on their part. Arnold knew better.
Why isn't it exploitation of the buyer when and actor or an athlete gets a multimillion dollar contract? Did Arnold exploit anyone or cheat anyone when he got that insane dealer for his last Terminator movie? (It can be looked up on the net).
Many years ago someone asked Johnny Carson (after renewing his contract) why he thought he deserve millions of dollars. He just replied, "Because I could get it."
In the good old days, which by the way weren't so good, most guys were delighted just to win a trophy and title and be featured in a magazine or two. That was all anyone needed. Looking back it isn't good enough because Joe sold the idea that if you got to be a he-man you got rewarded with the gal and money.
There was no prize money to speak of for winning the Mr Universe in those days. Even the so-called Professional Mr Universe. If you owned a gym you were classed a professional. Ditto if you posed for money and held seminars. That is still a better definition of professional that the nonsense the IFBB has come up with. Kiss butt and you might get your pro card.
Joe and Ben didn't give much back to the champs. Clarence Ross, Steve Reeves, George Eifferman, Larry Scott, Dave Draper, Leroy Colbert and many others weren't properly paid for their contributions to his magazines.
From what I have read it appears that Joe didn't pay Draper and other lads what he promised to pay them. So Dave took Joe to court. Somehow Joe got Dave to settle before going to court but we heard that Dave probably would have won the case and lost an opportunity to recover a lot of money. So it isn't what Pellius and others think. Yes, Joe is a good businessman but the muscle guys got royally screwed along the way.
Are you saying Arnold got an A??
Vince Basile is like average guy in class that wants to be the best. The kid works on a subject for several hours every week of the semester and ends up with a B while the smartest people in the class only works the last week and gets an A. Then the hard working loser spends the next few weeks crying about how unfair it is. ;D
Arnold and Joe go a long way back. Arnold and I arrived in LA in the same week in October 1968. I lasted a month and went back to Canada broke. Arnold is governor of California. Who would have predicted that? Only Arnold!
Joe W brought Arnold to California and gave him a job shifting boxes in the warehouse. Arnold was at the gym or on the beach the same as everyone else. He simply refused to work in the warehouse. So he survived and the rest is history. I guess both used each other. Arnold did make money from bodybuilding and invested it like Joe Gold told him: into real estate. I heard Joe Gold had to shift his World Gym because Arnold owned the property. Not sure about this one but it wouldn't surprise me. Arnold learned from everyone and I bet Joe Weider taught him to promise everything but give the very least you have to.
Arnold and Joe go a long way back. Arnold and I arrived in LA in the same week in October 1968. I lasted a month and went back to Canada broke. Arnold is governor of California. Who would have predicted that? Only Arnold!
Joe W brought Arnold to California and gave him a job shifting boxes in the warehouse. Arnold was at the gym or on the beach the same as everyone else. He simply refused to work in the warehouse. So he survived and the rest is history. I guess both used each other. Arnold did make money from bodybuilding and invested it like Joe Gold told him: into real estate. I heard Joe Gold had to shift his World Gym because Arnold owned the property. Not sure about this one but it wouldn't surprise me. Arnold learned from everyone and I bet Joe Weider taught him to promise everything but give the very least you have to.
It is unfair. But that's life. I believe that Vince has a real talent for designing and constructing exercise machines. I've seen some of his stuff on IronAge and wish I could train at his gym. It's far superior to a lot of the stuff that clutters the major fitness chains (there are exceptions like Hammer and some of the Nautilus stuff). But he was never able to get it out to the mass market. Why would major producers want to bother with it when they got their own in house designers and machines and most people don't know the difference or have a clue? It's not enough to have a good idea and a good product. If he could have only found some investors who were concerned with not just making a buck but putting out a good product. A. Jones pretty much financed himself. I don't think he could have done it any other way. Then other companies jumped on the "exercise machine" band wagon and even stole or made inferior imitations based on his long and arduous years of designing and redesigning. A whole new industry took off in no small part to Jones.
Sorry Vince.
Arnold and Joe go a long way back. Arnold and I arrived in LA in the same week in October 1968. I lasted a month and went back to Canada broke. Arnold is governor of California. Who would have predicted that? Only Arnold!
Joe W brought Arnold to California and gave him a job shifting boxes in the warehouse. Arnold was at the gym or on the beach the same as everyone else. He simply refused to work in the warehouse. So he survived and the rest is history. I guess both used each other. Arnold did make money from bodybuilding and invested it like Joe Gold told him: into real estate. I heard Joe Gold had to shift his World Gym because Arnold owned the property. Not sure about this one but it wouldn't surprise me. Arnold learned from everyone and I bet Joe Weider taught him to promise everything but give the very least you have to.
Life isnt fair, and everybody over 10 knows that.
Vince made his choices and now he has to live with the consequences of those choices. Who knows, if he had spent more time learning from Ahhnuld, he might have ended up in a better spot ;D
I got news for you Debussey, no one wins in life but it is easy to feel like a loser. Never envy anyone else because they might have a toothache.
Why you are given a voice on any public forum is beyond me. If I owned this site you would never post your filth here.
It is unfair. But that's life. I believe that Vince has a real talent for designing and constructing exercise machines. I've seen some of his stuff on IronAge and wish I could train at his gym. It's far superior to a lot of the stuff that clutters the major fitness chains (there are exceptions like Hammer and some of the Nautilus stuff). But he was never able to get it out to the mass market. Why would major producers want to bother with it when they got their own in house designers and machines and most people don't know the difference or have a clue? It's not enough to have a good idea and a good product. If he could have only found some investors who were concerned with not just making a buck but putting out a good product. A. Jones pretty much financed himself. I don't think he could have done it any other way. Then other companies jumped on the "exercise machine" band wagon and even stole or made inferior imitations based on his long and arduous years of designing and redesigning. A whole new industry took off in no small part to Jones.very fair assessment
Sorry Vince.
What do you mean by "no one wins in life"? You don't consider Arnold a winner?
I got news for you Debussey, no one wins in life but it is easy to feel like a loser. Never envy anyone else because they might have a toothache.
Why you are given a voice on any public forum is beyond me. If I owned this site you would never post your filth here.
You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.
In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ;D ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.
They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) ;D
Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you, and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers ;D
The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt
And just for you Vince, you loser:
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Nice post. debussey thinks deep.
Nice post. debussey thinks deep.x2
I mean exactly that. You can feel like a winner some of the time but eventually you get old and deteriorate like everyone else. Plus you lose friends and loved ones, etc.
You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.
In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ;D ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.
They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) ;D Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).
Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers ;D
The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt
And just for you Vince, you loser:
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.
You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.Nice MELTDOWN, Duck.
In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ;D ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.
They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) ;D Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).
Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers ;D
The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt
And just for you Vince, you loser:
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.
You are not correct about your "winning" statement. What constitutes "winning" in life in the first place is a matter of how we define it, and since you don't have the power to make an all-reaching definition of diffuse matters like this, you are not in a position to make such a statement.
In this life we really don't know much. As Debussey has stated before, finding the answers to the "big questions" in life = practically impossible (can you really prove much besides the fact that you are aware right now?), at least today. What we do "know" is that you have your life, and that the quality of it is determined by the emotional states you experience. If going by this, what constitutes "winning" in life should mean being as happy as you can, and if you feel like a loser you are certainly not on the winning side. Doing what it takes to live a happy life will at least maximize some part of it you can feel pretty sure about (again, this is just Debussey's "life maxim". Very hedonistic, eh? ;D ).
If you on top of this accepts the brutal facts about life (you will get old, you will die, your loved ones will die and so on), then you can still "win" because you maximized your happiness within the frame of something resembling reality.
They have done studies on people who's been on their death bed, and it seems like there are two groups: A minority that achieved what they set out to achieve (family, education, business, friends, loads of great experiences ect and so on, a bit like "maximizing" ) and they usually accepts death and are ok with it. The majority dies a bitter death though, feeling that they came out short (this group will include a loser like you) ;D Addition: The "happy minority" are supposedly less fearful about their transition into death too (but Debussey has to check up on this though, don't take this for granted yet).
Arnold understood that how you feel and what you achieve is up to you (there will of course be unforseen external factors that can help or screw you over, but these should be accepted nevertheless. Getting the best output from yourself, despite what's going on elsewhere is still up to you), and even though many people thinks of him as an arse he still made them feel like losers ;D
The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience.
Eleanor Roosevelt
And just for you Vince, you loser:
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Addition: The post is not meant to contain "universal answers", this is just what Debussey chooses to live its life by, nothing more, and Debussey has to accept the consequences of living its life based on this way of thinking.
What does all this have to do with Milos getting back on an IFBB stage???
What does all this have to do with Milos getting back on an IFBB stage???The IFBB and Bob Chick will never allow Milos to get back on an IFBB stage.
Yeah, you're right.......it couldn't be the waiver they want him to sign saying he won't sue the fuck out if them.
Hey Chick, does every Pro sign one of those waivers when they get their IFBB Pro card ???
The IFBB and Bob Chick will never allow Milos to get back on an IFBB stage.
What has Chick got to do with Milos competing???
What has Chick got to do with Milos competing???Chick walks the line between the company he represents and the "athletes" it exploits.
Sounds about right. :-\
Maybe Chick fears Milos will try to take his job as "athletes rep" because Milos would probably be more popular choice with the "athletes"
LOL...dont count on it
LOL...dont count on itNot with the IFBB representative brainwashing and blackballing members that associate with him. ;)
You've had the postition long enough Chick, MOVE ON.
When your opinion matters, I'll consider it
I see you hanging in there as long as Oscar State held onto his IFBB position. ::)
You've had the postition long enough Chick, MOVE ON.
I see you hanging in there as long as Oscar State held onto his IFBB position. ::)
You're hilarious! ::)
MoveOn.org has a new cause... they used to be all about replacing an incompetent administration with a socialist negro, now they're going to take on the challenge of replacing an incompetent athlete's rep with a mentally unstable Serbian.
At least they can keep the same slogan: "Out of the frying pan, into the fire!"
Why do you care?
Not with the IFBB representative brainwashing and blackballing members that associate with him. ;)
How does one brainwash a grown man?
What position, what job, what representative, what election? The IFBB does business with guys who show absolute loyalty. They will look after you and you end up with a couple of awards for all that ass kissing. There is no honour and no shame. Former thugs and mugs belong. Deputy sheriffs. That sort of bloke. Someone who can not worry about giving someone a penalty. Like Chick warning Lee and Milos instead of helping them. Why should the muscleheads need a joke like Chick to represent them? To comprehend that is to understand the crap that is the IFBB. Always has been and always will be. Expect more of the same in the future. Mediocre guys kissing butt in a closed shop of thugs, mugs and stooges.
The IFBB officials not allowing their 4 year old kids to attend your "legendary" sex parties must have struck a nerve with you, old pedo.