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Title: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: MikMaq on March 08, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
Your odds of having a disease like hpv, herpes etc, way greater.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Nails on March 08, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
that must have been some nasty piece of ass you fucked
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 08, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
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Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
Your odds of having a disease like hpv, herpes etc, way greater.
pretty much this said viruses should be perceived as skin conditions
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Your Average GymRat on March 08, 2012, 04:15:39 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(
Getting barebacked by trannies comes with a pricetag son.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 04:22:02 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(
just so you know if you ever have an exposure to HIV you have 72 hrs to stop the virus from duplicating in your body, how so

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-exposure_prophylaxis

so how do you obtain these drugs? You can go to the ER or to an HIV specialist which you should follow up with anyway, Its better than seeing an ID specialist. Some prevention programs or medical universities might offer nPEP for free FYI these drugs are expensive one drug like combivir cost 1000 a bottle out of pocket and some doctors have a 36 hr time limit instead of 72 hr to administer the drugs based on some studies of the efficacy of PEP
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 08, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Only gays get aids.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 08, 2012, 04:36:01 PM
I took an HIV test a few years back. It's pretty weird. You have to sign a waiver saying that you know that if it comes out positive, you are probably going to die. Oh , it came out negative in case you were wondering.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: makaveli25 on March 08, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
I took an HIV test a few years back. It's pretty weird. You have to sign a waiver saying that you know that if it comes out positive, you are probably going to die. Oh , it came out negative in case you were wondering.

Gave blood recently. Didn't have to sign anything like that I can remeber.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
just so you know if you ever have an exposure to HIV you have 72 hrs to stop the virus from duplicating in your body, how so

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-exposure_prophylaxis

so how do you obtain these drugs? You can go to the ER or to an HIV specialist which you should follow up with anyway, Its better than seeing an ID specialist. Some prevention programs or medical universities might offer nPEP for free FYI these drugs are expensive one drug like combivir cost 1000 a bottle out of pocket and some doctors have a 36 hr time limit instead of 72 hr to administer the drugs based on some studies of the efficacy of PEP

I will bookmark this post, if you save my life, I hope not, Ill mail you a monkey and a poney.

Surprised there werent many gay jokes though.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: wes on March 08, 2012, 04:49:33 PM
I will bookmark this post, if you save my life, I hope not, Ill mail you a monkey and a poney.

Surprised there werent many gay jokes though.
They`re coming,don`t worry!  ;)
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
How long do you have to wait for the results? They have rapid tests now where they just swab your gums and it comes back in like 20 minutes.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 08, 2012, 05:09:47 PM
assuming your not gay, a big assumption on a bodybuilding board, youre going to be fine.

oh and assumming yo dont share needles with ugandan sailors at the pier
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: calfzilla on March 08, 2012, 05:10:47 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(

Why are you gay?  Seriously transmission rates for hetero men are very low.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
assuming your not gay, a big assumption on a bodybuilding board, youre going to be fine.

oh and assumming yo dont share needles with ugandan sailors at the pier

hahahaha
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
However, i will say from personal experience that that 20 minutes is escruciatingly painful.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 05:11:58 PM
How long do you have to wait for the results? They have rapid tests now where they just swab your gums and it comes back in like 20 minutes.
I did general blood tests so Ill go pick everything up at once, this is really making me very anxious, and I am not a good stressed individual.

assuming your not gay, a big assumption on a bodybuilding board, youre going to be fine.

oh and assumming yo dont share needles with ugandan sailors at the pier

I have never fucked a man, I think Im not gay, anyhow, thats sort of comforting..and no, I dont inject shit into my body because I absolutely despise needles, yes, I am a 10 year old kid.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
I did general blood tests so Ill go pick everything up at once, this is really making me very anxious, and I am not a good stressed individual.

I have never fucked a man, I think Im not gay, anyhow, thats sort of comforting..and no, I dont inject shit into my body because I absolutely despise needles, yes, I am a 10 year old kid.

Dude, what kind of nasty whore did you fuck that made you take the test???  ???
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
I did general blood tests so Ill go pick everything up at once, this is really making me very anxious, and I am not a good stressed individual.

I have never fucked a man, I think Im not gay, anyhow, thats sort of comforting..and no, I dont inject shit into my body because I absolutely despise needles, yes, I am a 10 year old kid.
I did general blood tests so Ill go pick everything up at once, this is really making me very anxious, and I am not a good stressed individual.

I have never fucked a man, I think Im not gay, anyhow, thats sort of comforting..and no, I dont inject shit into my body because I absolutely despise needles, yes, I am a 10 year old kid.

If it makes you feel any better, the chances of a male contracting HIV from a single act of insertive penile-vaginal sex is roughly 1 in 2000...and that is assuming that the woman is HIV+.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: TrueGrit on March 08, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
I had one ages ago when an ex-girlfriend made me have a battery of tests before I could bareback her. I knew I'd be ok but the waiting was awful.

Ironically, she had a urinary infection and I was clean as a whistle.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
If it makes you feel any better, the chances of a male contracting HIV from a single act of insertive penile-vaginal sex is roughly 1 in 2000...and that is assuming that the woman is HIV+.

Another case of the homos trying to make HIV out like it's "everybody's problem".

It's supposed to be prevalent in the black community too. Is that because they have a lot of brothas on the DL, or because of tbombz?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 05:18:25 PM
Dude, what kind of nasty whore did you fuck that made you take the test???  ???

Its not about one bitch, I did fuck a very nasty one some years ago, its the fact I have never used condoms and been around for a while, plus anal sex (to women, mind you) and all that stuff, I dont know, I just thought that while I was at it Id take it, and now I kind of "regret it", Im probably being paranoid but like the other guy said, the nervous can be excrutiating and Im venting in the thunderdome.  First time I ever take it too so...
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 05:20:18 PM
Its not about one bitch, I did fuck a very nasty one some years ago, its the fact I have never used condoms and been around for a while, plus anal sex (to women, mind you) and all that stuff, I dont know, I just thought that while I was at it Id take it, and now I kind of "regret it", Im probably being paranoid but like the other guy said, the nervous can be excrutiating and Im venting in the thunderdome.  First time I ever take it too so...

You're fine. I was a bit nervous too when I took it. But then I found out that--as has been stated--it's unlikely you got it from engaging in straight sex.
Considering that the last 'really nasty' skank was years ago, I'd say you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
Abstract: According to a new study from the University of California, San Francisco, women are far more likely than men to be infected by an HIV-positive heterosexual partner. Nancy Padian, the study's lead investigator, noted in the current issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology that women were approximately eight times more likely than men to become infected by an HIV-positive partner. The researchers estimated that male-to-female unprotected heterosexual intercourse results in about nine infections to every 10,000 unprotected sexual encounters, while female-to-male transmission rates are even lower.

From a different study:

"For regular partners who were active in anal sex, the risk for transmission was 1 in 10. The risk for the insertive partner (the "top") is believed to be about 10 times less than for the receptive partner (the "bottom"). Another study showed 1 in 50 for receptive anal intercourse. [I assume here it is not considering 'regular activity' but a general risk]

The risk of HIV infection during vaginal intercourse is believed to be much less. One estimate was 1 in 200,000 for transmission from infected women to men and 1 in 100,000 for transmission from infected men to women"
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:28:36 PM
Female to male transmission is very inefficient, says Dr. Nancy Padian a professor in the department of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive science at the University of California, San Francisco and the author of a 1996 10 year study of HIV infected heterosexual couples, the nation's longest and largest. She points out that “its two to three times easier for men to infect women.” But even so, if there are no other risk factors involved, the rate at which an infected man will transmit the virus to a woman is one in 1,100 sex acts.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 05:30:24 PM
How surprisingly comforting this thread has been.

YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT YOURSELVES.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
How surprisingly comforting this thread has been.

YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT YOURSELVES.
Yeah, you should still wrap it up though because there are a lot of diseases that are actually very easy to get female to male.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 05:32:55 PM
Yeah, you should still wrap it up though because there are a lot of diseases that are actually very easy to get female to male.
Im listening...
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 08, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
assuming your not gay, a big assumption on a bodybuilding board, youre going to be fine.

oh and assumming yo dont share needles with ugandan sailors at the pier
this....
people being made sooo scared of a disease that may not even exist.....
heart disease kills way more people and i see nobody being hysterical about eating the right foods, not living a stressfull life etc etc... lol...
and if you are straight, have a normal sexlife... changes are slim to none....
you can also be struck by lightning or win a lottery....

and hpv and herpes are just a part of life lol...!
about 80% of people have these 2 viruses btw, completely symptomfree....
all these horror pics you see are EXTREME cases , again to scare you into buying as much condoms as you need, and do tests every time the condom breaks or you switch partners.....  gee i wonder why that is????
i am sure certain companies do not make any profit of this whole sex = dangerous and will kill you campaign... ::) ::) ::) ::)

and hiv is very deadly..... ::) ask magic jonhson.... lol... there is so much that just doesn't add up about his whole hiv thing...they make people believe that you can catch it as quickly as a cold..., but were is the epedemic???
almost nothing has changed in 30 years..... my gutfeeling senses a lot of bullshit....
and my gutfeeling usually is correct....




Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
I'm just talking about stuff like herpes, hpv, and bacterial infections. Not necessarily anything that will kill you but you would definitely like to avoid. The presence of other std's also makes it more likely for you to acquire hiv. This is because things such as herpes can cause open wounds on the penis that make it easier for hiv to enter the body. A lot of people believe this is one of the primary reasons that hiv is much more common among the heterosexual community in Africa. When people over there get an std, they are much less likely to have access to treatment and therefore are more prone to open sores. Without an open sore on your penis, the only way for it to enter your body is through the urethra, which is still possible but a very inefficient means of transmission. Women, on the other hand, have mucous membranes covering the entire inner lining of the vagina, which means there is a much larger surface area that could potentially be exposed. Vaginal fluids also have a lower concentration of hiv virus, on average, than semen does. Also, if you are circumcised, that lowers your odds by about 50% according to some studies.  
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 06:29:11 PM
as a cold..., but were is the epedemic???
almost nothing has changed in 30 years

yeah except the drugs ::)
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 06:30:17 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(
what was your risk anyways?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Krankenstein on March 08, 2012, 06:33:24 PM
Getting barebacked by trannies comes with a pricetag son.

Spoken by someone with personal experience....bitch
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(
if you need some answers or questions asked

http://www.thebody.com/content/40482/ask-the-experts-about-hiv-aids.html?ic=3001

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?board=1.0
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 06:39:32 PM
The PCR blood test is the most sensitive that traces the virus itself and not the antibodies which is why it should be performed several days from the exposure I believe it 10 or 12 and no later unfortunately its not universally regarded for diagnostic purposes due to high rate of false positives and is expensive but you might be able to find a prevention program that offers it for free
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 06:41:18 PM
The latest Elisa test does include the PCR which is often administered at the county clinic for cheap which reminds me if money is an issue considered the clinics in the gay and black community they usually offer free services
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: calfzilla on March 08, 2012, 07:19:18 PM
Hetero vaginal sex has low transmission rates. Anal sex however is very dangerous for the "taker". 
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: 20inch calves on March 08, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
why?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
Hetero vaginal sex has low transmission rates. Anal sex however is very dangerous for the "taker". 
Although unprotected receptive anal sex has long been shown to be the highest-risk sexual activity for men who have sex with other men, a study in the July 1 edition of The Journal of Infectious Diseases suggests that the risk to the insertive partner—or “top”—may be much higher than originally thought.

Researchers gauged levels of HIV RNA in the blood, semen, and rectal mucosa secretions of 64 HIV-positive gay and bisexual men visiting sexually transmitted disease clinics in Seattle and Lima, Peru. Surprisingly, HIV was detected at much higher levels in the rectal secretions than in either blood or semen. HIV was even present in the rectal fluids of men who were suppressing blood-based viral loads to undetectable levels through highly active antiretroviral therapy, according to the study.

About half of the men studied were on HAART regimens; the remainder were treatment-naive. The median viral load detected in all the study subjects’ blood was 17,400 copies; the median semen-based viral load was much lower, only 3,550 copies. But the median viral levels detected in rectal mucosa secretions—at 91,200 copies—was more than five times higher than that seen in blood and more than 25 times higher than detected in semen.

The viral load pattern held true for study subjects taking anti-HIV medications and for those who were not on antiretroviral regimens.

The data suggest that HIV-positive receptive anal sex partners—or “bottoms”—may be putting their partners at a higher risk for infection than originally thought, especially when engaging in unprotected sex. The risk might be particularly high for insertive partners who are uncircumcised, since previous studies have shown that the Langerhans cells, located on the foreskin, are especially susceptible to HIV infection and that semen, rectal secretions, and vaginal fluids can be easily trapped under the foreskin and placed into prolonged contact with the cells.

They also conclude that HIV viral levels in rectal mucosa may not be directly affected by the use of anti-HIV drugs, as are blood- and semen-based levels. This “may be due to differential levels of antiretroviral drugs or to anatomic and immunologic differences in the male genital tract versus rectal mucosa,” the researchers say.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
The latest Elisa test does include the PCR which is often administered at the county clinic for cheap which reminds me if money is an issue considered the clinics in the gay and black community they usually offer free services
Unless he is worried about something that happened recently, as in the past 3 months, a PCR is not necessary.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Devon97 on March 08, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
I took an HIV test a few years back. It's pretty weird. You have to sign a waiver saying that you know that if it comes out positive, you are probably going to die. Oh , it came out negative in case you were wondering.

As opposed to coming back negative you probably not going to die? ???

Last I checked we all die.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 07:39:36 PM
As opposed to coming back negative you probably not going to die? ???

Last I checked we all die.
Many doctors say that people who are diagnosed with HIV today will live basically normal life spans as long as they stick to their HAART and live a healthy lifestyle. It also helps to begin HAART before the t-cell count gets too low. Over the past 20 years, HIV has changed from a death sentence to a disease more like diabetes.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: HTexan on March 08, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
good luck man
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 08:20:38 PM
Over the past 20 years, HIV has changed from a death sentence to a disease more like diabetes.
thats all based on circumstances considering the mutated strains
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
I will bookmark this post, if you save my life, I hope not, Ill mail you a monkey and a poney.

Surprised there werent many gay jokes though.
PEP is no walk in the park some people cant adhere to the regiment and quit before the 30 days also when you take PEP theres a delay in testing so instead of testing at 3 month its 4 months
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 08, 2012, 09:25:10 PM
thats all based on circumstances considering the mutated strains
True but I think we will eventually find a cure.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: HTexan on March 08, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
True but I think we will eventually find a cure.
no money in cure. the money is in the treatments.
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(http://bronzejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Over-the-counter-drugs.jpg)
(http://blog.liveat415.com/files/2010/12/cold-and-flu-aisle-kalleboo.jpg)
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 09, 2012, 03:49:34 AM
no money in cure. the money is in the treatments.
(http://www.interiordesignoffices.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/doctor-office-design-2.jpg)
(http://bronzejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Over-the-counter-drugs.jpg)
(http://blog.liveat415.com/files/2010/12/cold-and-flu-aisle-kalleboo.jpg)

this x1000!!
all about the $$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: BigCyp on March 09, 2012, 04:51:41 AM
about time gaylord
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 09, 2012, 08:50:37 AM
So having a cut dick and not being gay is the best, I am much better now hhhahahaah, back to bareback maybe
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 09, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
no money in cure. the money is in the treatments.
(http://www.interiordesignoffices.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/doctor-office-design-2.jpg)
(http://bronzejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Over-the-counter-drugs.jpg)
(http://blog.liveat415.com/files/2010/12/cold-and-flu-aisle-kalleboo.jpg)

Interesting article regarding the search for a cure...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/health/new-hope-of-a-cure-for-hiv.html?pagewanted=all
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Hulkster on March 09, 2012, 09:15:24 AM
Many doctors say that people who are diagnosed with HIV today will live basically normal life spans as long as they stick to their HAART and live a healthy lifestyle. It also helps to begin HAART before the t-cell count gets too low. Over the past 20 years, HIV has changed from a death sentence to a disease more like diabetes.

but only if you have the money to access the cocktail of drugs.

and are prepared to deal with the side affects of the drugs.

I don't know about you, but I wouldnt want diarrhea for the rest of my life.

aids in the developed world may not be a death sentence, but the side effects of the drugs used to treat it can make you wish you were dead.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 09, 2012, 09:15:28 AM
So having a cut dick and not being gay is the best, I am much better now hhhahahaah, back to bareback maybe
Glad you are not as worried now, but like I said I would still recommend to always use protection, even if you aren't concerned all that much about HIV.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 09, 2012, 09:19:12 AM
but only if you have the money to access the cocktail of drugs.

and are prepared to deal with the side affects of the drugs.

I don't know about you, but I wouldnt want diarreah for the rest of my life.

aids in the developed world may not be a death sentence, but the side effects of the drugs used to treat it can make you wish you were dead.

That is a good point, although today's drugs don't have as bad of side effects as they did in the early days with AZT. Most people in the US have access through ADAP programs and pharmaceutical assistance programs but it is still a major problem in the developing world.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: jesusbod on March 09, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
Nervous as fuck... :(

It was nice knowing you.. Walk into the light, don't struggle.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Euro-monster on March 09, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
If you die....you die... :)
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 09, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
lots of aids and aids test experts on this thread.

ALL OF YOU= OUTED
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Hulkster on March 09, 2012, 12:51:23 PM
lol

no, but what a lot of people don't realize is that yes, the strain of HIV in north america is very easy to transmit through anal sex (which is why is so prevelent in the gay community) but that the strain of HIV in Africa is primarily transmitted through HETEROsexual sex (vaginally).

and its easily spread over there that way.

why? researchers don't know.

I learned alot about HIV in my microbio course in university (which had a section on retroviruses and immunology)

just go to the sex board, im about as hetero as they cum lol
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: LittleJ on March 09, 2012, 12:54:48 PM
That 20-30 minute wait to get your results back is scary as fuck. You wish you didn't do all that nasty shit.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Option D on March 09, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
If you die....you die... :)

epic
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 09, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
lol

no, but what a lot of people don't realize is that yes, the strain of HIV in north america is very easy to transmit through anal sex (which is why is so prevelent in the gay community) but that the strain of HIV in Africa is primarily transmitted through HETEROsexual sex (vaginally).

and its easily spread over there that way.

why? researchers don't know.

I learned alot about HIV in my microbio course in university (which had a section on retroviruses and immunology)

just go to the sex board, im about as hetero as they cum lol

Hulkster, check out this article:
http://fumento.com/aids/aids2005.html
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Danny-Boy on March 09, 2012, 03:26:02 PM
If you guys want to get a better understanding of HIV and AIDS... Here is an excellent documentary that debunks many uneducated myths-- Regarding how HIV and AIDS are redefined in their diagnosis -Depending on your geographic region-- Further, you can be tested HIV positive in Chicago but NEGATIVE in London..etc.   All quick HIV testing kits ARE NOT 100 percent accurate and unfortunately the same can be said of LAB TESTS...  This was a lengthy documentary I had  watched while in Med school w/ regards to the ethics of of diagnosing conclusive results

This will wake most of you up! and confirm many negative pharmaceutical company assumptions

Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Danny-Boy on March 09, 2012, 03:33:51 PM
Interesting point to grasp -  Many HIV kits and lab tests look for certain abnormalities w/ regards to particular white blood cell count,several other autoimmune abnormalities, etc.  Unfortunately, SEVERAL other conditions outside of HIV and AIDS can have these same attributes...This is where the patient can be LUMPED into the category of HIV positive ..  Remember, once diagnosed w/ HIV or AIDS !! Patient automatically receives medical clearance for endless treatments, government funding (monthly support), etc  These are to name a few!
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: the trainer on March 09, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
Nervous as fuck... :(

So you found out you have aids who gives a fuck go jump off a building.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: calfzilla on March 09, 2012, 08:42:35 PM
Lots of gaynal sex in this thread.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Primemuscle on March 09, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
Only gays get aids.

Hope your ignorance makes you happy.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: paradoxno1 on March 10, 2012, 01:55:33 AM
My son was diagnosed with AIDS.
Understandably I was absolutely devastated.
My own son, a filthy homo.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Primemuscle on March 10, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
My son was diagnosed with AIDS.
Understandably I was absolutely devastated.
My own son, a filthy homo.

Devastated because he has AIDS or devastated because he is homosexual. You do realize heterosexuals can get AIDS too, don't you?

I'd be devastated if either of my kids contacted a serious illness such as AIDS. However, I wouldn't be upset if they were physically healthy homosexuals.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: HTexan on March 10, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
lots of aids and aids test experts on this thread.

ALL OF YOU= OUTED
YOU=RETARD
most STD tests include HIV.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: 2good4u on March 10, 2012, 10:28:36 PM
i have been hiv poz since 2001 found out at physical when i was asked if i wanted to be tested for std's? i said sure signed the paper
for the hiv part of the test and was told to come back in 3 days. 3 days later i came back and all my results were back "NEGATIVE" for everything, i was so happy. then my doctor said humm thats funny i said what? he said your hiv results have not come back yet, but dont worry your negative on everthing so i am sure thats negative as well they are probably just backed up at the testing site, so i said ok.
i came home and maybe 4 days later i got a call from my doctors office asking when i could come in? i said come in for what? she said i am not sure your doctor just asked me to call you, so i figured there was a dispute with my insurance for my visit so i said tommorow, she said fine can you come in first thing in the morning at 8am, i said sure. the next day at 8am i showed up and everybody in the office for some reason i felt was staring at me and they all knew me which was weird and i got ushered to a back room and told to wait my doctor was coming right now. once again i really thought this is something to do with my insurance. my doctor came in sat down with a folder and i just remember him rubbing his forehead and saying "well i have some bad news for you" i said ok what? he opened up the folder and turned it around to face me i had no idea what i was looking at i just saw my name at the top, he took his pen and said these are the results of your hiv test, i said ok. he then took his pen and pointed to POSITIVE for elisa and western blot.

now in my mind i was thinking positive was a good thing so i said oh so its positive he said yes i am afraid so, i said oh wait so that means i have hiv? he said yes........the room started to spin and i got extremly hot and fell out the chair i had never ever fainted in my life but this time i did, i came to with a nurse around me and my doctor telling me its ok, your going to be ok just relax.

so to speed this up cause i am tired typing i got an appointment the next day with a ID doctor (infectious-disease) who was just the coolest person you ever want to meet, his first words to me where well thank god you got it now as opposed to 10years ago and your going to be fine got my blood drawn, came back in a week and was told my body was handling the hiv fine and that i did not need to be put on medicine, my viral load was extremly low and my t-cell count was very high and the doctor said ok see you in 6months, that was it....i thought what thats it? anyway this went on till 2009 my viral load stayed low and t-cell count was high. then in 2009 i went for blood work and the doctor said well it looks like your going to need some help now your viral load has increased the amount of the virus in your blood stream and your t-cell count is dropping not by much but still its dropping, so he drew some blood and told me come back in 2days.

2 days later i came back and he said that my strain was mild and showed no abnormalities and that meant i could be put on any hiv drug and it would work, he put me on ATRIPLA the one pill a day told me start taking it the next day and dont miss doses the next day i took it was slightly dizzy for 3 days still went to the gym and that was it. one month later i went back to my doctor and my viral load was undetectable and my t-cells had gone back up. i have been undetectable ever since and my t-cell count is normal the pill i take along with my vitamins and protein shake and i dont feel it at all, my liver kidneys blood pressure cholesterol all perfect so what i thought hiv was really is not that big of a deal at all i look better then most dudes at my gym work everyday and i am fine. and in most big cities if you cant afford hiv meds the city provides them free of charge, my health insurance i get my ATRIPLA free every month a 30 day supply if i ever loose my job i can go to the nearest medicaid office and start it for free.

i will be on hiv medicine for the rest of my life the one pill a day however people still get sick and die from hiv turning into aids i feel for the following reason, if you dont take your medicine everyday the virus comes back out and replicates itself to make the medicine you were taking no longer work, if you do this alot and go on many different meds you can run out of options and then they have to put you on some harsher stuff with side effects, but if you take your pill or pills as you should people with hiv do fine its those that dont do as there told that get sick, i have never ever had a hiv related illness at all no one at my job or everyday life knows i am hiv positve. however i do thank god for the newere meds on the market and the fact that i got it when i did cause it is not a death sentence anymore, i am not saying go get hiv but i am just saying if you do have it trust me its not going to kill you as my infectious disease doctor told me...i was also told by my doctor a new pill will soon be coming on the market that you take once a month for HIV so its getting alot easier. also being undetectable makes you less infectious to others meaning its harder to pass to someone because the virus is so low in my body whereas if your viral load is in the millions and you have unprotected sex you can pass it, undectectable is anything less then 40 copies which is low.

so good luck to you my friend and if your test comes back negative great, if it comes back positive hunker down learn the facts from your doctor and trust me you will be fine.

i know everyone will want to know how i got it? i dont know how or when i got it or who gave it to me but my 20's were pretty wild thats all i can say.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tweeter on March 11, 2012, 01:15:52 AM
Good to hear that you are doing well. Do you have any idea how long you might have been positive before you found out?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: paradoxno1 on March 11, 2012, 09:23:20 AM
HIV
The only test a black man will ever pass .
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 11, 2012, 09:25:35 AM
So you found out you have aids who gives a fuck go jump off a building.

Do you even reading comprehension fuckface?  :D

Im getting the results Monday probably, too lazy to go to the fucking clinic to sign the papers...
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on March 11, 2012, 09:34:51 AM
Nervous as fuck... :(
as long as you score above 65 you should be fine 
did you stay up all night the night before and study your ass off?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 11, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
as long as you score above 65 you should be fine 
did you stay up all night the night before and study your ass off?

I studied 60% of the content of the test to conscience, I should have done well enough,
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 11, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
he took his pen and said these are the results of your hiv test, i said ok. he then took his pen and pointed to POSITIVE for elisa and western blot.


thats odd, usually you dont get tested with a western blot initially
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Primemuscle on March 11, 2012, 01:48:51 PM
Thanks for sharing your story, 2good4u.  Anyone not in a monogomous relationship should be tested for STD's. Everyone who has unprotected casual sexual relations should be routinely tested for STD's. Your post makes this point well.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: B_B_C on March 11, 2012, 04:59:48 PM
I took an HIV test a few years back. It's pretty weird. You have to sign a waiver saying that you know that if it comes out positive, you are probably going to die. Oh , it came out negative in case you were wondering.

amazing
I thought everybody died some time.
Do the people at that clinic know some thing the rest of the world doesnt know?

Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 11, 2012, 07:58:11 PM
amazing
I thought everybody died some time.
Do the people at that clinic know some thing the rest of the world doesnt know?


ive never seen such waiver an i get tested annually
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: el numero uno on March 11, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
this....
people being made sooo scared of a disease that may not even exist.....

heart disease kills way more people and i see nobody being hysterical about eating the right foods, not living a stressfull life etc etc... lol...
and if you are straight, have a normal sexlife... changes are slim to none....
you can also be struck by lightning or win a lottery....

and hpv and herpes are just a part of life lol...!
about 80% of people have these 2 viruses btw, completely symptomfree....
all these horror pics you see are EXTREME cases , again to scare you into buying as much condoms as you need, and do tests every time the condom breaks or you switch partners.....  gee i wonder why that is????
i am sure certain companies do not make any profit of this whole sex = dangerous and will kill you campaign... ::) ::) ::) ::)

and hiv is very deadly..... ::) ask magic jonhson.... lol... there is so much that just doesn't add up about his whole hiv thing...they make people believe that you can catch it as quickly as a cold..., but were is the epedemic???
almost nothing has changed in 30 years..... my gutfeeling senses a lot of bullshit....
and my gutfeeling usually is correct....






Wow
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 11, 2012, 08:07:08 PM
Wow
secondd
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: 2good4u on March 11, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
from what my infectious disease doctor said it would be diffiucult to tell how long i had been exposed to hiv, and because my body was dealing with it great on its own with no medicine he said it was even more difficult, i went to a group meeting for people with HIV shortly after i was diagnosed and i was surprised that some people had it for 13, 15, 20 years and never was on medicine and they had constant low viral loads which meant there body was not allowing it to take over there immune system

i later learned that your immune system is something you inherit and that some people have stronger ones then others and some people can live with hiv for many years before ever taking meds where as after my diagnosis it took me 7years before starting meds a buddy of mine was one of the first cases and he has never been on meds and his viral load stays around 1000 copies and his t-cell count is always in the high 800's

the only regret for me with having hiv is telling a potential partner, thats what i feel is the only difficult thing in this. now dont get me wrong if its a one night stand and i know that i "DONT TELL" i make sure to wear a condemn and its almost no fun because i constantly check to make sure its on and it did not break and i am always pulling out to check, however since being poz and knowing i liked someone and having to sit them down and let them know i am poz is so hard, luckily i have never had anyone say oh well forget it. i think most educated people are aware of the facts and they are not as afraid anymore however i always still feel the need to pull out my latest test results to show i am undetectable and explain what that means.

as for someone saying you usually dont get tested for western blot the first time around, thats what took my results so long to come back, my clinic ran them twice once with ALISA and the second was WESTERN BLOT my doctor said they do that to prevent false
positives.

i decided to prevent that awkward conversation about me being positive i would date other positive people and oh my god thats fucking great, no awkward conversation, no guilt of a condemn breaking and now my doctor said that whole thing about a SUPER STRAIN is FALSE. he said that he has never seen it in his practice and that 2 positive on meds and undetectable its fine.

so once again my friend when you get your results monday either way educate yourself, be careful and be thankful that this is 2012 where if you are positive you can still live a long healthy life if you take of yourself speaking of taking care of yourself i am heading to the 24hour gym now.......later and good luck
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: hardgainerj on March 11, 2012, 10:22:02 PM


i decided to prevent that awkward conversation about me being positive i would date other positive people and oh my god thats fucking great, no awkward conversation, no guilt of a condemn breaking and now my doctor said that whole thing about a SUPER STRAIN is FALSE. he said that he has never seen it in his practice and that 2 positive on meds and undetectable its fine.


well do as much research

Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: 2good4u on March 11, 2012, 11:37:18 PM
well do as much research



not sure how old this video is but yeah in 2001 i was told it was definitly a no-no but all i can tell you is i am going by hiv doctor with 20
plus years experience and keep in mind i said i said 2 positive people on meds with undetectable viral loads, she is speaking of positive
people not on meds with detectable viral loads. all i can go by is what my doctor says and about 3 years ago when i asked him about
2 positive people getting together he said that now new research is saying that it is fine and that once was thought of a
SUPER INFECTION is in fact a poor adherence to meds therefore causing the medicine not to work however he said research has proven that when
these individuals were given new strain test there strain had not changed the virus had just added mutations to make the medicine they were on no longer work.

i personally know several people in relationships and married to other positive people that are indeed undetectable have unprotected sex and they are still undetectable and fine.

so point of my story take your meds everyday! dont forget! dont cause mutations! to where your medicine no longer works and keep LIVING.........
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: BigCyp on March 12, 2012, 04:21:52 AM
Devastated because he has AIDS or devastated because he is homosexual. You do realize heterosexuals can get AIDS too, don't you?

I'd be devastated if either of my kids contacted a serious illness such as AIDS. However, I wouldn't be upset if they were physically healthy homosexuals.

hahahaha epic love for the physically healthy gays
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 12, 2012, 04:37:21 AM
Wow
do some research on the net....
still a lot of questions not answered regarding the whole hiv causes aids hype....
also, a lot of "research" is sponsored by who???? yes pharma companies.... why o why???
look at africa for example, give these people clean water, good food, and good normal medicine like we have here in the west.... let's see how many still die of "aids"
but what does the government do.....? gives them free condoms and pumps them full of chemo meds.... ::) ::) but whatever needs to be done to sell the goodies , right????
there is more to the story... something doesn't add up.... that is all i am saying....
and people are to hysterical of things that they should not be so concerned about...
morning traffic is more riskey!



Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: TheOne on March 12, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
What was your result?  Are you supposed to get it back today?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Primemuscle on March 12, 2012, 05:39:59 PM
hahahaha epic love for the physically healthy gays

Not necessarily. You will note that the conversation is about whether it would upset someone more to find out their children were gay or that they had HIV. It follows then that this is about loving one's children....regardless of their sexual orientation.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Bam-bam on March 12, 2012, 06:24:02 PM
i have been hiv poz since 2001 found out at physical when i was asked if i wanted to be tested for std's? i said sure signed the paper
for the hiv part of the test and was told to come back in 3 days. 3 days later i came back and all my results were back "NEGATIVE" for everything, i was so happy. then my doctor said humm thats funny i said what? he said your hiv results have not come back yet, but dont worry your negative on everthing so i am sure thats negative as well they are probably just backed up at the testing site, so i said ok.
i came home and maybe 4 days later i got a call from my doctors office asking when i could come in? i said come in for what? she said i am not sure your doctor just asked me to call you, so i figured there was a dispute with my insurance for my visit so i said tommorow, she said fine can you come in first thing in the morning at 8am, i said sure. the next day at 8am i showed up and everybody in the office for some reason i felt was staring at me and they all knew me which was weird and i got ushered to a back room and told to wait my doctor was coming right now. once again i really thought this is something to do with my insurance. my doctor came in sat down with a folder and i just remember him rubbing his forehead and saying "well i have some bad news for you" i said ok what? he opened up the folder and turned it around to face me i had no idea what i was looking at i just saw my name at the top, he took his pen and said these are the results of your hiv test, i said ok. he then took his pen and pointed to POSITIVE for elisa and western blot.

now in my mind i was thinking positive was a good thing so i said oh so its positive he said yes i am afraid so, i said oh wait so that means i have hiv? he said yes........the room started to spin and i got extremly hot and fell out the chair i had never ever fainted in my life but this time i did, i came to with a nurse around me and my doctor telling me its ok, your going to be ok just relax.

so to speed this up cause i am tired typing i got an appointment the next day with a ID doctor (infectious-disease) who was just the coolest person you ever want to meet, his first words to me where well thank god you got it now as opposed to 10years ago and your going to be fine got my blood drawn, came back in a week and was told my body was handling the hiv fine and that i did not need to be put on medicine, my viral load was extremly low and my t-cell count was very high and the doctor said ok see you in 6months, that was it....i thought what thats it? anyway this went on till 2009 my viral load stayed low and t-cell count was high. then in 2009 i went for blood work and the doctor said well it looks like your going to need some help now your viral load has increased the amount of the virus in your blood stream and your t-cell count is dropping not by much but still its dropping, so he drew some blood and told me come back in 2days.

2 days later i came back and he said that my strain was mild and showed no abnormalities and that meant i could be put on any hiv drug and it would work, he put me on ATRIPLA the one pill a day told me start taking it the next day and dont miss doses the next day i took it was slightly dizzy for 3 days still went to the gym and that was it. one month later i went back to my doctor and my viral load was undetectable and my t-cells had gone back up. i have been undetectable ever since and my t-cell count is normal the pill i take along with my vitamins and protein shake and i dont feel it at all, my liver kidneys blood pressure cholesterol all perfect so what i thought hiv was really is not that big of a deal at all i look better then most dudes at my gym work everyday and i am fine. and in most big cities if you cant afford hiv meds the city provides them free of charge, my health insurance i get my ATRIPLA free every month a 30 day supply if i ever loose my job i can go to the nearest medicaid office and start it for free.

i will be on hiv medicine for the rest of my life the one pill a day however people still get sick and die from hiv turning into aids i feel for the following reason, if you dont take your medicine everyday the virus comes back out and replicates itself to make the medicine you were taking no longer work, if you do this alot and go on many different meds you can run out of options and then they have to put you on some harsher stuff with side effects, but if you take your pill or pills as you should people with hiv do fine its those that dont do as there told that get sick, i have never ever had a hiv related illness at all no one at my job or everyday life knows i am hiv positve. however i do thank god for the newere meds on the market and the fact that i got it when i did cause it is not a death sentence anymore, i am not saying go get hiv but i am just saying if you do have it trust me its not going to kill you as my infectious disease doctor told me...i was also told by my doctor a new pill will soon be coming on the market that you take once a month for HIV so its getting alot easier. also being undetectable makes you less infectious to others meaning its harder to pass to someone because the virus is so low in my body whereas if your viral load is in the millions and you have unprotected sex you can pass it, undectectable is anything less then 40 copies which is low.

so good luck to you my friend and if your test comes back negative great, if it comes back positive hunker down learn the facts from your doctor and trust me you will be fine.

i know everyone will want to know how i got it? i dont know how or when i got it or who gave it to me but my 20's were pretty wild thats all i can say.

and you are gay right?
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: HTexan on March 13, 2012, 06:23:35 PM
from what my infectious disease doctor said it would be diffiucult to tell how long i had been exposed to hiv, and because my body was dealing with it great on its own with no medicine he said it was even more difficult, i went to a group meeting for people with HIV shortly after i was diagnosed and i was surprised that some people had it for 13, 15, 20 years and never was on medicine and they had constant low viral loads which meant there body was not allowing it to take over there immune system

i later learned that your immune system is something you inherit and that some people have stronger ones then others and some people can live with hiv for many years before ever taking meds where as after my diagnosis it took me 7years before starting meds a buddy of mine was one of the first cases and he has never been on meds and his viral load stays around 1000 copies and his t-cell count is always in the high 800's

the only regret for me with having hiv is telling a potential partner, thats what i feel is the only difficult thing in this. now dont get me wrong if its a one night stand and i know that i "DONT TELL" i make sure to wear a condemn and its almost no fun because i constantly check to make sure its on and it did not break and i am always pulling out to check, however since being poz and knowing i liked someone and having to sit them down and let them know i am poz is so hard, luckily i have never had anyone say oh well forget it. i think most educated people are aware of the facts and they are not as afraid anymore however i always still feel the need to pull out my latest test results to show i am undetectable and explain what that means.

as for someone saying you usually dont get tested for western blot the first time around, thats what took my results so long to come back, my clinic ran them twice once with ALISA and the second was WESTERN BLOT my doctor said they do that to prevent false
positives.

i decided to prevent that awkward conversation about me being positive i would date other positive people and oh my god thats fucking great, no awkward conversation, no guilt of a condemn breaking and now my doctor said that whole thing about a SUPER STRAIN is FALSE. he said that he has never seen it in his practice and that 2 positive on meds and undetectable its fine.

so once again my friend when you get your results monday either way educate yourself, be careful and be thankful that this is 2012 where if you are positive you can still live a long healthy life if you take of yourself speaking of taking care of yourself i am heading to the 24hour gym now.......later and good luck
so you don't tell the dude you're having sex with that you have HIV? That is really fucked up. I hope one of those guys beat the shit out of you.
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Metabolic on March 13, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
What was your result?  Are you supposed to get it back today?

I am, but I am in Uni exams week, got 3 of them in 3 days so no way Im going all the way there yet and lose valuable time, Friday probably
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: TheOne on March 13, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Damn man, good luck...BREATHE
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: andreisdaman on March 13, 2012, 10:21:19 PM
I remember back in the day they used to say you could get HIV from a blowjob...is that still true?..I have never ever heard of anyone getting AIDS from a blowjob
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: tu_holmes on March 13, 2012, 10:28:09 PM
I remember back in the day they used to say you could get HIV from a blowjob...is that still true?..I have never ever heard of anyone getting AIDS from a blowjob

No, but if she's a real tramp, you can get gonorrhea.

Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2012, 07:46:31 AM
I remember back in the day they used to say you could get HIV from a blowjob...is that still true?..I have never ever heard of anyone getting AIDS from a blowjob
You can. Low chance tho.  It is way more risky for the chick tho.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm
Title: Re: I took the HIV test
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
I remember back in the day they used to say you could get HIV from a blowjob...is that still true?..I have never ever heard of anyone getting AIDS from a blowjob

Here are a couple of things that we know about HIV: as a virus, it is weak once outside the host and it is a blood born pathogen. Given this, if someone who had bleeding gums or any kind of open sore in their mouth or on their lips and you had some manner of open sore on your penis you could possibly get HIV from oral sex. More likely, is that if someone cums in someone's mouth and the person whose mouth they cum in has any manner of open sore, then the person giving oral sex could get HIV from an infected person. The reason for this is because all bodily fluids contain some blood.

The reason anal sex is particularly dangerous is because the tissues in one's anus are very fragile. The  any anal penetration can cause damage to these tissues. Thus if the sodomizer has HIV and ejaculates or even leaks pre-cum in someone's anus, there is a good chance they would become infected. Conversely, if the sodomizer has open sores or cuts on their penis and blood or bodily fluids from an HIV positive person being sodomized enters the sodomizers system through these openings, they could become infected.

As I mentioned HIV is a weak virus once outside the host. For this reason, it is more difficult to get HIV from cleaning up a bodily fluid spill. However, the herpes virus is very difficult to kill and therefore remains alive in a bodily fluid spill for sometime. As a general rule of thumb, one should always treat all bodily fluids other than their own as infected just to be on the safe side.

Surely, someone is going to suggest that I just outed myself. Ha, ha. Well, I already did that a long time ago. The information I am sharing here is a result of what I learned as part of my profession. As is required by law, every year we at work would be trained on blood born pathogens.