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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 08:24:21 AM »
Fuck him, i hope he dies.

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 09:05:22 AM »
Joe, you say that now but when Obama appoints Nancy Grace you'll be crying in the corner and wishing Holder was still the A.G. ;D

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 09:06:25 AM »
Joe, you say that now but when Obama appoints Nancy Grace you'll be crying in the corner and wishing Holder was still the A.G. ;D

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 11:31:54 AM »
Fuck him, i hope he dies.

Holder is a racial arsonist and corrupt scumbag

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Re: Well....good riddance
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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 07:35:49 AM »
Why Holder Quit: The backstory of how Obama lost his ‘heat shield.’
Politico Magazine ^  | September 25, 2014 | Glenn Thrush

Posted on ‎9‎/‎25‎/‎2014‎ ‎11‎:‎14‎:‎07‎ ‎PM by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s oddly fitting that Attorney General Eric Holder – a stubbornly independent career prosecutor ridiculed by Barack Obama’s advisers for having lousy political instincts— would nail his dismount.

But Holder, who began his stormy five-plus-year tenure at the Justice Department with his controversial “Nation of Cowards” speech, has chosen what seems to be the ideal (and maybe the only) moment to call it quits after more than 18 months of musing privately about leaving with the president and senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett, a trio bound by friendship, progressive ideology and shared African-American ancestry.

It was now or never, several current and former administration officials say, and Holder – under pressure to retire from a physician wife worried about a recent health scare, checked the "now" box. “It was a quit-now or never-quit moment,” one former administration official said. “You didn’t want confirmation hearings in 2015 if the Republicans control the Senate. So if he didn’t do it now, there was no way he could ever do it.”

Holder—described by associates as President Obama’s “heat shield” on race and civil rights—sprung it on the president over the Labor Day holidays. Obama didn’t bother to push back as he has in the past, even though staffers say he winces at the prospect of a long confirmation battle, whomever he chooses for the nation’s top law enforcement job.

Holder’s announcement gives Obama several weeks to pick and vet a successor who would face confirmation hearings in the lame-duck session after the midterms. Holder has “agreed to remain in his post until the confirmation of his successor,” a top Justice Department aide said, as an insurance policy against GOP foot-dragging.

His timing also has a personal dimension. The keenly legacy-conscious Holder has never been in better standing, leaving on arguably the highest personal note of his tenure, after a year of progress on his plan to reform sentencing laws and just after his well-received, calming-the-waters trip to Ferguson, Missouri, during the riots in August. In a background email to reporters, a senior Justice Department official struck a victory-lap tone, writing, “The Attorney General’s tenure has been marked by historic gains in the areas of criminal justice reform and civil rights enforcement. The last week alone has seen several announcements related to these signature issues.”

That’s a striking contrast to the defensive posture of the last few years, when Holder became the first sitting Cabinet official to be found in contempt of Congress. Hill Republicans, who have warred with Holder for years, greeted his departure with don’t-let-the-door-hit-you-on-the-way-out glee. “I welcome the news that Eric Holder will step down as Attorney General,” said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, in an email. “From Operation Fast and Furious to his misleading testimony before the House Judiciary Committee regarding the Department’s dealings with members of the media and his refusal to appoint a special counsel to investigate the IRS’ targeting of conservative groups, Mr. Holder has consistently played partisan politics with many of the important issues facing the Justice Department.”

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At the moment, there’s no obvious replacement, several officials close to the situation told me. W. Neil Eggleston, the new White House counsel, will lead the search with an assist from Jarrett, Holder’s longtime ally and defender. Obama and his team would probably prefer a known and trusted quantity—like Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a potential future Democratic presidential candidate who served as the head of the department’s civil rights division under Bill Clinton. But Patrick, who is friends with Obama insiders like David Axelrod, who still advises his old boss informally, has repeatedly told them he’s not interested, and – for now—he seems to mean it. When asked by reporters today, Patrick snapped, “I am going to finish my term and then head into the private sector.”

Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, Jr. is a favorite of Obama’s, and a person valued as a team player inside the West Wing—not as widely known but someone who might have an inside track, thanks to Obama’s penchant for picking trusted insiders over high-profile outsiders. But liberal critics have faulted Verilli for his halting performance defending the Affordable Care Act before the Supreme Court, as well as his mixed scorecard overall.

In recent days the president’s team has also taken a close look at California Attorney General Kamala Harris, an African-American woman who would likely pursue the same civil rights agenda championed by Holder—but may opt to stay in her state to pursue gubernatorial ambitions.

Other names under consideration, but considered less likely, according to check-ins with half a dozen current and former West Wingers: Preet Bharara, U.S. Attorney in Manhattan known for his aggressive Wall Street prosecutions; Ron Machen, the young U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C.—a job once held by Holder; Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a former state attorney general; former Joe Biden aide Neil MacBride, an ex-federal prosecutor in Virginia who is now a partner at the law firm Davis Polk; ex-White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler, another Obama favorite; and Labor Secretary Tom Perez, another former head of the civil rights division—and currently the only Latino candidate mentioned by insiders.

There’s also at least one high-profile long-shot on the informal list being circulated inside Obama’s camp: former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who left Washington in 2013 to take over the massive University of California system, according to one Democrat with close ties to the White House. Napolitano was the original choice for the job at the start of Obama’s first term – a favorite of then-Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Holder, who had considered himself the sole front-runner for the job, was startled during the 2008-09 transition period when he was handed a Department of Justice binder that included headshots of himself and Napolitano as potential AGs.

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 08:43:46 AM »
LOL!  Dude served 5 and 1/2 years.  He's going to get rich as a lobbyist now. 

LOL @ "feeling the heat" and repubs trying to claim a win with his resignation. 

Ugh, he totally get away with Fast & Furious.  Issa was a failure. 

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2014, 08:54:14 AM »
LOL!  Dude served 5 and 1/2 years.  He's going to get rich as a lobbyist now. 

LOL @ "feeling the heat" and repubs trying to claim a win with his resignation. 

Ugh, he totally get away with Fast & Furious.  Issa was a failure. 

You gotta admit it's pretty telling when the only comment you can make on a public servant is that "he got money now" or he "got away with this or that"

It's like the Obama supporters who come on here and say "Well he rich and well off now"

As if the vast vast majority of Senators, former Cabinet Members, DA's, former Presidents from both sides of the aisle could not say the exact same thing.




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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 09:18:30 AM »
You gotta admit it's pretty telling when the only comment you can make on a public servant is that "he got money now" or he "got away with this or that"

It's like the Obama supporters who come on here and say "Well he rich and well off now"

As if the vast vast majority of Senators, former Cabinet Members, DA's, former Presidents from both sides of the aisle could not say the exact same thing.





yep.  in the past, the opposing party had the BALLS to go after criminals. 

nobody went after bush for his shady shit (impeachment if off the table - pelosi) and it's obvious that Repubs are doing the same thing.

So the next repub that enters prez office... he could break any law he wants... he won't be prosecuted.  A nice little gentleman's agreement, I guess.

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 09:30:07 AM »
yep.  in the past, the opposing party had the BALLS to go after criminals. 

nobody went after bush for his shady shit (impeachment if off the table - pelosi) and it's obvious that Repubs are doing the same thing.

So the next repub that enters prez office... he could break any law he wants... he won't be prosecuted.  A nice little gentleman's agreement, I guess.
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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 09:31:59 AM »
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No ones biting man.

come on, you know its true.  Bush did a whole lot of domestic spying that at LEAST deserved an independent look.  Nope.  Just let that one slide.  Obama did plenty to warrant at least an investigation.  Nope, let that slide too.

It'll be the same for the next prez. 

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2014, 09:48:34 AM »
Why Holder Quit: The backstory of how Obama lost his ‘heat shield.’
Politico Magazine ^  | September 25, 2014 | Glenn Thrush

Posted on ‎9‎/‎25‎/‎2014‎ ‎11‎:‎14‎:‎07‎ ‎PM by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s oddly fitting that Attorney General Eric Holder – a stubbornly independent career prosecutor ridiculed by Barack Obama’s advisers for having lousy political instincts— would nail his dismount.

But Holder, who began his stormy five-plus-year tenure at the Justice Department with his controversial “Nation of Cowards” speech, has chosen what seems to be the ideal (and maybe the only) moment to call it quits after more than 18 months of musing privately about leaving with the president and senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett, a trio bound by friendship, progressive ideology and shared African-American ancestry.

It was now or never, several current and former administration officials say, and Holder – under pressure to retire from a physician wife worried about a recent health scare, checked the "now" box. “It was a quit-now or never-quit moment,” one former administration official said. “You didn’t want confirmation hearings in 2015 if the Republicans control the Senate. So if he didn’t do it now, there was no way he could ever do it.”

Holder—described by associates as President Obama’s “heat shield” on race and civil rights—sprung it on the president over the Labor Day holidays. Obama didn’t bother to push back as he has in the past, even though staffers say he winces at the prospect of a long confirmation battle, whomever he chooses for the nation’s top law enforcement job.

Holder’s announcement gives Obama several weeks to pick and vet a successor who would face confirmation hearings in the lame-duck session after the midterms. Holder has “agreed to remain in his post until the confirmation of his successor,” a top Justice Department aide said, as an insurance policy against GOP foot-dragging.

His timing also has a personal dimension. The keenly legacy-conscious Holder has never been in better standing, leaving on arguably the highest personal note of his tenure, after a year of progress on his plan to reform sentencing laws and just after his well-received, calming-the-waters trip to Ferguson, Missouri, during the riots in August. In a background email to reporters, a senior Justice Department official struck a victory-lap tone, writing, “The Attorney General’s tenure has been marked by historic gains in the areas of criminal justice reform and civil rights enforcement. The last week alone has seen several announcements related to these signature issues.”

That’s a striking contrast to the defensive posture of the last few years, when Holder became the first sitting Cabinet official to be found in contempt of Congress. Hill Republicans, who have warred with Holder for years, greeted his departure with don’t-let-the-door-hit-you-on-the-way-out glee. “I welcome the news that Eric Holder will step down as Attorney General,” said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, in an email. “From Operation Fast and Furious to his misleading testimony before the House Judiciary Committee regarding the Department’s dealings with members of the media and his refusal to appoint a special counsel to investigate the IRS’ targeting of conservative groups, Mr. Holder has consistently played partisan politics with many of the important issues facing the Justice Department.”

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At the moment, there’s no obvious replacement, several officials close to the situation told me. W. Neil Eggleston, the new White House counsel, will lead the search with an assist from Jarrett, Holder’s longtime ally and defender. Obama and his team would probably prefer a known and trusted quantity—like Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a potential future Democratic presidential candidate who served as the head of the department’s civil rights division under Bill Clinton. But Patrick, who is friends with Obama insiders like David Axelrod, who still advises his old boss informally, has repeatedly told them he’s not interested, and – for now—he seems to mean it. When asked by reporters today, Patrick snapped, “I am going to finish my term and then head into the private sector.”

Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, Jr. is a favorite of Obama’s, and a person valued as a team player inside the West Wing—not as widely known but someone who might have an inside track, thanks to Obama’s penchant for picking trusted insiders over high-profile outsiders. But liberal critics have faulted Verilli for his halting performance defending the Affordable Care Act before the Supreme Court, as well as his mixed scorecard overall.

In recent days the president’s team has also taken a close look at California Attorney General Kamala Harris, an African-American woman who would likely pursue the same civil rights agenda championed by Holder—but may opt to stay in her state to pursue gubernatorial ambitions.

Other names under consideration, but considered less likely, according to check-ins with half a dozen current and former West Wingers: Preet Bharara, U.S. Attorney in Manhattan known for his aggressive Wall Street prosecutions; Ron Machen, the young U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C.—a job once held by Holder; Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a former state attorney general; former Joe Biden aide Neil MacBride, an ex-federal prosecutor in Virginia who is now a partner at the law firm Davis Polk; ex-White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler, another Obama favorite; and Labor Secretary Tom Perez, another former head of the civil rights division—and currently the only Latino candidate mentioned by insiders.

There’s also at least one high-profile long-shot on the informal list being circulated inside Obama’s camp: former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who left Washington in 2013 to take over the massive University of California system, according to one Democrat with close ties to the White House. Napolitano was the original choice for the job at the start of Obama’s first term – a favorite of then-Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Holder, who had considered himself the sole front-runner for the job, was startled during the 2008-09 transition period when he was handed a Department of Justice binder that included headshots of himself and Napolitano as potential AGs.


good article

did you read past the title on this one

I"m guessing not since it's complimentary to Holder

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2014, 10:02:57 AM »
I dont agree w it.   Holder is a ghetto skell and criminal

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014, 11:10:02 AM »
I dont agree w it.   Holder is a ghetto skell and criminal

hard to tell since you made no comment whatsoever when you posted it

maybe you should take the extra time to read an article before you post it

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2014, 02:41:52 PM »
I wonder if the Obama posse will succeed in jamming him onto the Supreme Court?
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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 02:57:26 PM »
Why would he want that? He's only had a few years in private sector where he was probably making $1 mil a year but that's chump change in his circles. He probably needs to make some money.

He's an ideologue and a stonewalling big govt bureaucrat who craves power and needs to further his "social justice" delusions. Government is the only place he can likely even survive now. He'd probably get eaten alive by ambitious DAs as a criminal defense attorney.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2014, 03:15:59 PM »
I don't see what use he and a white Jewish billionaire will have for each other.

If money (at least legal, above-board money) was his motivator, he would have stayed out of government and being a judge in the past.

I think you're overestimating him. I don't think he's that bright nor that ambitious. He's only useful when someone gives him power, and his most useful skill seems to be stonewalling, which doesn't pay much in the real world.

I think he's all about race / social justice / social engineering.
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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2014, 03:31:59 PM »
He pissed off lots of people on Wall Street by extorting those tens of billions in fines and other actions - he made lots of enemies. I won't shed a tear if he finds his life after AG to not be so hot.
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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2014, 03:46:20 PM »
He pissed off lots of people on Wall Street by extorting those tens of billions in fines and other actions - he made lots of enemies. I won't shed a tear if he finds his life after AG to not be so hot.

LOL @ extorting billions

the bankers at HSBC are probably quite happy with their fines for their long list of crimes rather than jail time and losing their charter

Jamie Dimon lied to bank regulators, hid massive fraud and was likely about to be indicted and then somehow gets a personal meeting with Holder and gets off with less than a slap on the wrist (personally)

HSBC is the most egregious thing by far and I don't see anyone talking about it here but then who has time when we need to discuss whether he is ghetto slime or not.

Holder said some banks are "too big to jail"

If someone wants to be pissed at him for that I will gladly join them


 


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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2014, 05:59:54 PM »
And of course Dimon assured Holder that his forbearance would be remembered. Holder didn't get to be AG by being a dummy.

Wait until people hear the Goldman Sachs tapes that are coming out. That's how the real world works.

yeah, that should be pretty interesting
I heard it being promo'd on NPR but didn't hear the story

I'm sure it will be just another jaw breaking yawn from the general public though who will be too busy looking for the next download of celebrity nude selfie's

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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2014, 10:23:08 AM »
Is that what your lib professors are telling you at uni?

LOL @ extorting billions

the bankers at HSBC are probably quite happy with their fines for their long list of crimes rather than jail time and losing their charter

Jamie Dimon lied to bank regulators, hid massive fraud and was likely about to be indicted and then somehow gets a personal meeting with Holder and gets off with less than a slap on the wrist (personally)

HSBC is the most egregious thing by far and I don't see anyone talking about it here but then who has time when we need to discuss whether he is ghetto slime or not.

Holder said some banks are "too big to jail"

If someone wants to be pissed at him for that I will gladly join them


 


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Re: Well....good riddance
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2014, 11:01:25 AM »
And of course Dimon assured Holder that his forbearance would be remembered. Holder didn't get to be AG by being a dummy.

Wait until people hear the Goldman Sachs tapes that are coming out. That's how the real world works.

Sometimes it's not what you know, but who you know. I just don't think Holder is that bright or that talented, and lawyers are a dime a dozen. Of course you're probably on to something about him making some connections while in power as AG.
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