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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2021, 07:16:34 PM »
It's called monetizing the debt. The Federal Reserve is literally buying US BONDS (IOUs from the Federal Government), which in turn places the USA under more debt burden. The money retrieved from the Federal Reserve is then pumped into circulation, mostly via digital means, but also by way of hard paper currency in the form of stimulus payments + government funding projects. It leads to inflation, as this year alone the Federal reserve after both relief packages have infused $4.6 Trillion into the US economy. It's a terrible idea, which also artificially props up the economy and makes the market stay on life support while sporting "all-time" market highs. People get these bullshit stimulus checks + unemployment, spend like there is no tomorrow and of course spend on popular brands that are also publicly traded in the stock market. Why wouldn't the market be artificially inflated, when people are just getting Fed Reserve money and reinvesting it into those S&P 500 companies by buying their products? Not to mention that the biggest companies in the US also get relief packages for PPP programs (paycheck protection programs) and corporate bailout assistance like the airlines received. It's all artificial and it's leading to one of the largest debt bubbles this country has ever seen. Ridiculous!

Inflation will happen because we keep pumping money into our economy, further inflating the current balloon of US currency. Biden's taxes will further cripple the wealthy and their financial suffering is what will "Trickle Down" and effect the poor, as prices for goods and services will rise (let the poor take the hit of the tax raises). This is the alternative meaning to trickle down economics. I agree with you in that our economy as a whole will collapse.

Make way for China motherfuckers, because the writing is on the wall.

Chaos, I'm moving in!

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This is why, IMO, we need Jews to dictate monetary policies to White leaders, but for Whites to have complete veto power.  I think the Japanese were going to do something like this, or did do it at one point.

If my Fourth Reich society ever came into power, I'd run it using the same race laws as Israel - which are, funnily enough, the same race laws Hitler had in place.  Which did not amount to some Jewish extermination pogrom.  ::)

"The Man Who Saved Europe" - check it out on YouTube, OneMoreRep.  It's cool, and shows how the actions of the Rothschild family and other big Jewish banking family hurts both White people and the common Jew - who I now do see as the real victims here...I just don't cast blame on only White people.  The Rothschild family simply MUST know what they are doing is bad for Jews, and someone I know said he thinks Jews are purposely quelling the bottom 15% of the lowest IQ people in their race, to increase the already very high average Jewish IQ through enhanced Darwinian pressure.

Sickening, if true, but also something where I can sort of see why they might think that is good for Jews as a group.  Still unfair to just some poor Jew who happens to be living in a White country that starts to expel Jews because of what the Rothschild family does.

Also - check out "The House of Rothschild" [1934].  That's the movie being reviewed in the video "The Man Who Saved Europe", which I recommended above.

I think the best thing for both Whites and Jews [to actually get along for the longest time possible], would be to allow Jews in White countries, but only on our terms.

You know...kind of like how Israel treats Whites [which is not only perfectly fine with me - but IDEAL, and good for the Jewish people].

Also, fuck any complaining leftist piece of shit who has a problem with Israel being a nuclear state.  These pricks just hate powerful men and powerful people - period.

As for the orthodox Jews who you said didn't accept you...fuck them too.  You know, I definitely see why Jews want to maintain their traditional values...but I don't take issue with just being gay.  In Canada, the gay community won't shut up about "being oppressed", and all this, while they piss on each other publicly in gay parades.  THAT, I have no problem with.

It's like what I said about how you don't get any flak on here for being homosexual [IMO, I get more flak for being homosexual, despite NOT being homosexual, LOL].  It's because you aren't wildly outspoken or pushing your views on people.

It's one thing for me to hold these thoughts for Whites in the White countries of Europe, and even to some extent in Canada, which was 96% White in 1971, and...let's be honest...White people were the ones responsible for the 500 years of constitutional evolution in Canada, AND the development of all of our institutions.

But I would NEVER dictate how Jews should act in their own society, in Israel.  And yeah, I get what Saddam Hussein meant moments before being executed when he said "Palestine belongs to Arabs", but hey - might makes right, IMO.

Also, why the fuck do Jews need to build a giant border wall, and Arabs want to flood into Israel, if Jews "oppress" them so much?  ::)  That's the same argument used on Whites and I hate it.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2021, 07:48:33 PM »
why the fuck do Jews

u focus on humans.

humans r sinful, but can be understood.

satanic sock puppets, on the other hand -  r a problem.

until u open your eyes to the spiritual... u will continue to grasp at straws in frustration.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2021, 02:04:33 AM »
This is why, IMO, we need Jews to dictate monetary policies to White leaders, but for Whites to have complete veto power.  I think the Japanese were going to do something like this, or did do it at one point.

If my Fourth Reich society ever came into power, I'd run it using the same race laws as Israel - which are, funnily enough, the same race laws Hitler had in place.  Which did not amount to some Jewish extermination pogrom.  ::)

"The Man Who Saved Europe" - check it out on YouTube, OneMoreRep.  It's cool, and shows how the actions of the Rothschild family and other big Jewish banking family hurts both White people and the common Jew - who I now do see as the real victims here...I just don't cast blame on only White people.  The Rothschild family simply MUST know what they are doing is bad for Jews, and someone I know said he thinks Jews are purposely quelling the bottom 15% of the lowest IQ people in their race, to increase the already very high average Jewish IQ through enhanced Darwinian pressure.

Sickening, if true, but also something where I can sort of see why they might think that is good for Jews as a group.  Still unfair to just some poor Jew who happens to be living in a White country that starts to expel Jews because of what the Rothschild family does.

Also - check out "The House of Rothschild" [1934].  That's the movie being reviewed in the video "The Man Who Saved Europe", which I recommended above.

I think the best thing for both Whites and Jews [to actually get along for the longest time possible], would be to allow Jews in White countries, but only on our terms.

You know...kind of like how Israel treats Whites [which is not only perfectly fine with me - but IDEAL, and good for the Jewish people].

Also, fuck any complaining leftist piece of shit who has a problem with Israel being a nuclear state.  These pricks just hate powerful men and powerful people - period.

As for the orthodox Jews who you said didn't accept you...fuck them too.  You know, I definitely see why Jews want to maintain their traditional values...but I don't take issue with just being gay.  In Canada, the gay community won't shut up about "being oppressed", and all this, while they piss on each other publicly in gay parades.  THAT, I have no problem with.

It's like what I said about how you don't get any flak on here for being homosexual [IMO, I get more flak for being homosexual, despite NOT being homosexual, LOL].  It's because you aren't wildly outspoken or pushing your views on people.

It's one thing for me to hold these thoughts for Whites in the White countries of Europe, and even to some extent in Canada, which was 96% White in 1971, and...let's be honest...White people were the ones responsible for the 500 years of constitutional evolution in Canada, AND the development of all of our institutions.

But I would NEVER dictate how Jews should act in their own society, in Israel.  And yeah, I get what Saddam Hussein meant moments before being executed when he said "Palestine belongs to Arabs", but hey - might makes right, IMO.

Also, why the fuck do Jews need to build a giant border wall, and Arabs want to flood into Israel, if Jews "oppress" them so much?  ::)  That's the same argument used on Whites and I hate it.

OneMoreRep - if we don't lapse into global communism, and you're ever stranded in the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario, send me a PM.

The problem is not 'the Jews' but extremely wealthy families, companies and corporations across the world who have too much political power and influence.

For instance, at Bilderburg the leaders of the biggest companies, wealthiest families, monarchs, bankers and political leaders meet to discuss world affairs.

The group’s agenda, originally to prevent another world war, is now defined as bolstering a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe.

"To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

This is not democracy but oligarchy.


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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2021, 06:07:49 AM »
This is why, IMO, we need Jews to dictate monetary policies to White leaders, but for Whites to have complete veto power.

Some Jews are good with economics, but I've also met some that are terrible with it. I think monetary policy is a delicate and difficult topic. I listen to the great economic thinkers of our time to further build upon my understanding of these matters.

"The Man Who Saved Europe" - check it out on YouTube,  OneMoreRep.  It's cool, and shows how the actions of the Rothschild family and other big Jewish banking family hurts both White people and the common Jew - who I now do see as the real victims here...I just don't cast blame on only White people.  The Rothschild family simply MUST know what they are doing is bad for Jews, and someone I know said he thinks Jews are purposely quelling the bottom 15% of the lowest IQ people in their race, to increase the already very high average Jewish IQ through enhanced Darwinian pressure.Sickening, if true, but also something where I can sort of see why they might think that is good for Jews as a group.  Still unfair to just some poor Jew who happens to be living in a White country that starts to expel Jews because of what the Rothschild family does.

That stuff depresses me honestly. Because it points at elitists aiming for complete world domination. The world is beautiful in all its imperfect ways. Humans learn from their mistakes over time. Our societies evolve at a somewhat slow rate, but we learn sooner or later. What's even more depressing about watching these types of documentaries is that it further accentuates the fact that we as individual people have no power against these elitist groups. At OUR level and with our limited means, it would take a serious banding together of mankind to make a dent and we lack unity. Sadly, we are mostly separated by stupid shit like race, color of skin, money class systems and the illusion of beauty and fame, which are all forms of currency in this morally bankrupt culture.

As for the orthodox Jews who you said didn't accept you...fuck them too.  You know, I definitely see why Jews want to maintain their traditional values...but I don't take issue with just being gay.  In Canada, the gay community won't shut up about "being oppressed", and all this, while they piss on each other publicly in gay parades.  THAT, I have no problem with.

These social isolation tactics are somewhat ingrained in the human psyche. Even as young elementary school children, most everyone can remember social dynamics at recess. Certain kids would only play with their "kind", be it by age, race, interests or simply the idea of being part of the cool kids. Today, adult human beings are merely children that have physically aged, but have failed to mentally mature.

Also, why the fuck do Jews need to build a giant border wall, and Arabs want to flood into Israel, if Jews "oppress" them so much?  ::)  That's the same argument used on Whites and I hate it.

I don't like the idea of building a giant border wall. It sets a bad example in my opinion. But I also understand that illegal immigration can lead to a drain in a country's financial infrastructure if resources meant to support a country's citizens are redirected or misused on undocumented foreigners. This makes sense from an economic standpoint, but in itself can be argued as a means to isolate societies and people. That said, I think a New World Order is on the rise and their view of what humanity should become will likely do away with the illusion of borders. Instead, I think there will be a unified form of world government, much like the Bilderburg group likely intends it to be (universal laws, digital currency, 24/7 surveillance, population control via chemical castration, universal basic income and the advent of AI to serve as the major taxable workforce in the future).

OneMoreRep - if we don't lapse into global communism, and you're ever stranded in the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario, send me a PM.

I will.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2021, 09:01:16 AM »
UBI may be a necessary evil in the future but it can't be funded by borrowing.


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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #80 on: January 02, 2021, 09:14:18 AM »
UBI may be a necessary evil in the future but it can't be funded by borrowing.

I think one approach for UBI to work properly is to tax the companies that introduce AI into the workforce. In other words, as AI puts the common person out of work, it would lead to a paradigm shift whereby the vast majority of Americans without specialized skills (skills that can not be assimilated by AI), will be workless and AI will replace them. As AI evolves to become the largest component of our workforce (replacing everything from retail clerks, cab drivers, truck drivers, law enforcement, nurses, lawyers and many types of doctors), AI will generate a lot of revenue for companies and society as a whole. When that happens, taxing the companies that own and supply the AI will be the best way to fund UBI.

Borrowing from the federal reserve bank to fund UBI will only lead to high inflation and ultimately hyperinflation with a probable collapse of the US dollar & economy.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2021, 11:13:29 AM »
See Georgia Guidestones.

AI equals the path to global human population around 500 million as planned. They have no intention of paying useless eaters to breed - complete lack of logic in that.

I thought this stuff was Alex Jones nutso stuff to be entertained by....but the last few years not so much.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2021, 11:22:27 AM »
The root cause of the problem is the fiat money system which allows money to be printed without being tied to anything physical. As long as the current system remains in place, every ten years you’re going to have some crisis used as a pretext for devaluation.

This time it’s a medical crisis. Last time it was a housing crisis. In about ten years there will be another, probably a war. So, we have that to look forward to.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2021, 11:32:31 AM »
See Georgia Guidestones.

AI equals the path to global human population around 500 million as planned. They have no intention of paying useless eaters to breed - complete lack of logic in that.

I thought this stuff was Alex Jones nutso stuff to be entertained by....but the last few years not so much.

I think in the beginning, while we still have 7+ Billion humans on earth, the idea is to slowly introduce population control (vaccines, govt incentivized programs to reduce reproduction much like the Chinese have done and tax incentives) to reduce the useless breeders that would have to be paid. Slowly bring down the population and just keep AI producing/serving the masters.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2021, 11:55:43 AM »
I think in the beginning, while we still have 7+ Billion humans on earth, the idea is to slowly introduce population control (vaccines, govt incentivized programs to reduce reproduction much like the Chinese have done and tax incentives) to reduce the useless breeders that would have to be paid. Slowly bring down the population and just keep AI producing/serving the masters.

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yet somehow right now for decades they've been encouraging the Joggers and Metheads to breed out of control by giving away free Obama phones, free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, child support, childcare tax credits, section 8 housing vouchers ,etc..

Doesn't seem very logical to me

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2021, 12:07:29 PM »
yet somehow right now for decades they've been encouraging the Joggers and Metheads to breed out of control by giving away free Obama phones, free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, child support, childcare tax credits, section 8 housing vouchers ,etc..

Doesn't seem very logical to me

I get your frustration, but think about the alternative...

What happens if they don't provide those individuals with those socialistic programs?

Desperation will ensue. Crime would rise exponentially, particular in the form of theft, murders, riots and looting. Civil and social unrest would become rampant and I could see the government being overthrown.

Remember, 20% of the US population as of 2020 is on welfare, that's 66.6 million Americans. Think about that for a second. Not to mention that these socialistic public assistance programs also include other programs that help our American elderly (medicaid, Medicare, social security etc). If we eradicate the more popular programs, those would also have to go as to be "fair". Keep in mind that over 55 million Americans as of 2020 are over the age of 65, 55 million that depend on these programs.

It's a snowball effect that would end badly for America.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2021, 01:34:38 PM »
In Democrat run states, politicians are always looking for new and innovative ways to raise taxes yet for some bizarre reason, the governors of these states are enthusiastically embracing a policy of shut downs which is going to cause a decrease in tax revenue. Why?

NY Gov Andrew “Evil Eyes” Cuomo gives away the game, here:


https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/ny-will-take-very-dramatic-actions-if-state-doesnt-get-30b-from-federal-government-cuomo-says


Cuomo said. "We will have no choice because I don't have a printing press like the federal government does."



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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2021, 02:30:34 PM »
In Democrat run states, politicians are always looking for new and innovative ways to raise taxes yet for some bizarre reason, the governors of these states are enthusiastically embracing a policy of shut downs which is going to cause a decrease in tax revenue. Why?

NY Gov Andrew “Evil Eyes” Cuomo gives away the game, here:


https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/ny-will-take-very-dramatic-actions-if-state-doesnt-get-30b-from-federal-government-cuomo-says


Cuomo said. "We will have no choice because I don't have a printing press like the federal government does."

Have you heard the recent rumors about the Federal Reserve looking to possibly buy state bonds? Just like the FED has funded both covid relief packages by buying US treasuries, there's locker room talk suggestive that they might aim to enter the market for state bonds.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2021, 03:04:39 PM »
Some Jews are good with economics, but I've also met some that are terrible with it. I think monetary policy is a delicate and difficult topic. I listen to the great economic thinkers of our time to further build upon my understanding of these matters.


Matt only sees things as being either black or white. There are no gray areas in his thinking. Don't expect this to change anytime soon.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2021, 03:07:23 PM »
Have you heard the recent rumors about the Federal Reserve looking to possibly buy state bonds? Just like the FED has funded both covid relief packages by buying US treasuries, there's locker room talk suggestive that they might aim to enter the market for state bonds.

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It will probably happen. Most of the big state pensions are hopelessly insolvent.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2021, 03:14:15 PM »
It will probably happen. Most of the big state pensions are hopelessly insolvent.

NYC has become so depressing. I'm starting to evaluate a permanent move down south.

Do you feel similar or not at all?

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2021, 04:53:12 PM »
NYC has become so depressing. I'm starting to evaluate a permanent move down south.

Do you feel similar or not at all?

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I’ve thought about it but I don’t do well in Florida humidity.🥵

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2021, 05:40:37 PM »
UBI may be a necessary evil in the future but it can't be funded by borrowing.

Technically already in place via govt stimulus paying up to 30% of wages to business as an incentive to keep people employed.

Ours is supposed to end in March. That's laughable as we are the verge of a lockdown here which is going to utterly crush our economy yet again.


They will fund it via straight monetary devaluation in order to devalue the huge amount of debt everybody is drowning in (govt and private). Every single time in history, this has been the outcome.


Something people never think about is deflation makes your debt worth more....... inevitably you collapse which is why every single time in history the result is an inflationary bailout.


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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2021, 05:47:29 PM »
I can agree with everything, except the bold.

The writing is on the wall regarding China. If not sure what I mean, let me know and I can expand on this point.

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please expand 'no homo'

China is a big nothing
Same with AI, whos gonna fix the robot?
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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #94 on: January 02, 2021, 05:53:18 PM »
please expand 'no homo'

China is a big nothing
Same with AI, whos gonna fix the robot?

Gladly..

Since the 1980s, the education of China's population has improved dramatically, the real per capita income has multiplied by 24, and it has become the largest country in the world in trade (exceeding the US share of world trade), a rival technology leader, the holder of the greatest foreign reserves assets in the world by a factor of over two, the largest lender/investor in the emerging world, the second most powerful military power, and a geopolitical rival of the United States.  And it is growing in power at a significantly faster pace than the United States and other “developed countries.” 

China's empire is on the rise, while the US empire has been on decline for the greater part of 20 years.

This (above) is gathered from research I've recently conducted on the matter from 3 distinct sources.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #95 on: January 02, 2021, 05:55:38 PM »
It's called monetizing the debt. The Federal Reserve is literally buying US BONDS (IOUs from the Federal Government), which in turn places the USA under more debt burden. The money retrieved from the Federal Reserve is then pumped into circulation, mostly via digital means, but also by way of hard paper currency in the form of stimulus payments + government funding projects. It leads to inflation, as this year alone the Federal reserve after both relief packages have infused $4.6 Trillion into the US economy. It's a terrible idea, which also artificially props up the economy and makes the market stay on life support while sporting "all-time" market highs. People get these bullshit stimulus checks + unemployment, spend like there is no tomorrow and of course spend on popular brands that are also publicly traded in the stock market. Why wouldn't the market be artificially inflated, when people are just getting Fed Reserve money and reinvesting it into those S&P 500 companies by buying their products? Not to mention that the biggest companies in the US also get relief packages for PPP programs (paycheck protection programs) and corporate bailout assistance like the airlines received. It's all artificial and it's leading to one of the largest debt bubbles this country has ever seen. Ridiculous!

Inflation will happen because we keep pumping money into our economy, further inflating the current balloon of US currency. Biden's taxes will further cripple the wealthy and their financial suffering is what will "Trickle Down" and effect the poor, as prices for goods and services will rise (let the poor take the hit of the tax raises). This is the alternative meaning to trickle down economics. I agree with you in that our economy as a whole will collapse.

Make way for China motherfuckers, because the writing is on the wall.

Chaos, I'm moving in!

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #96 on: January 02, 2021, 06:02:30 PM »
Great explanation of what is happening with inflation here:


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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #97 on: January 02, 2021, 07:09:29 PM »
In Democrat run states, politicians are always looking for new and innovative ways to raise taxes yet for some bizarre reason, the governors of these states are enthusiastically embracing a policy of shut downs which is going to cause a decrease in tax revenue. Why?

NY Gov Andrew “Evil Eyes” Cuomo gives away the game, here:


https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/ny-will-take-very-dramatic-actions-if-state-doesnt-get-30b-from-federal-government-cuomo-says


Cuomo said. "We will have no choice because I don't have a printing press like the federal government does."


What an a--hole that guy is.

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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #98 on: January 02, 2021, 08:10:13 PM »
Nancy Pelosi's house.  :o







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Re: The Money Supply and you - meltdown or meltup?
« Reply #99 on: January 02, 2021, 09:16:05 PM »
66.6 percent of Americans on welfare


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