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I have had some ambivalence toward Rick Perry ....I'm not too aware of his politics but have been slowly learning about the man.....I didn't like his characterization of Social Security as a "ponzi scheme"...I thought it was a stupid thing to say and was his way of scaring the electorate..but some other things came out during the debates that made me look at him in a more positive light
I like that fact that he does support financial aid for the students of illegal immigrants....these kids are here through no fault of their own and by giving them the ability to get an education he prevents more serious problems down the road
I also like that he gave an executive order making it mandatory to have girls innoculated against the HSV virus so that they would not later develop pussy cancer (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...anything that makes girls less vulnerable to this is a good thing since girls are going to have sex with multiple partners as they grow up
I really think Perry is a different kind of Republican...he actually has some humanity and doesn't just look at the bottom line (money)..both of the above were the right thing to do for the public and he had the guts to do it..makes me change some of the negativity I had toward him and it makes me consider voting for him if there is a total implosion by Obama
I thought Michele Bachmann was very insensitive about the above and tied to rip Perry a new asshole..but she was wrong and came off to me as uncaring..just as most Republicans do..Perry could conceivably get Democratic votes if he stays moderate and doesn't back down from the the more hard-line elements of his party
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Rick Perry sucks.
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I have had some ambivalence toward Rick Perry ....I'm not too aware of his politics but have been slowly learning about the man.....I didn't like his characterization of Social Security as a "ponzi scheme"...I thought it was a stupid thing to say and was his way of scaring the electorate..but some other things came out during the debates that made me look at him in a more positive light
I like that fact that he does support financial aid for the students of illegal immigrants....these kids are here through no fault of their own and by giving them the ability to get an education he prevents more serious problems down the road
I also like that he gave an executive order making it mandatory to have girls innoculated against the HSV virus so that they would not later develop pussy cancer (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...anything that makes girls less vulnerable to this is a good thing since girls are going to have sex with multiple partners as they grow up
I really think Perry is a different kind of Republican...he actually has some humanity and doesn't just look at the bottom line (money)..both of the above were the right thing to do for the public and he had the guts to do it..makes me change some of the negativity I had toward him and it makes me consider voting for him if there is a total implosion by Obama
I thought Michele Bachmann was very insensitive about the above and tied to rip Perry a new asshole..but she was wrong and came off to me as uncaring..just as most Republicans do..Perry could conceivably get Democratic votes if he stays moderate and doesn't back down from the the more hard-line elements of his party
Uh, "IF there is a total implosion by Obama?
Where have you been?
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Rick Perry sucks.
he does suck just a little...but that's my point.....the other Republicans suck all the way!
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perry served in congress as a dem and had a lifetime of liberal positions - until it became politically convenient (the bush gov era) to be conservative.
VOILA!
He stole the Bush swagger, behavior, and eventually, governor job!
But, when given the job, what did he do? He let his lib colors show!
He TRIPLED the TX debt.
He used his executive order to FORCE those HPV shots.
He RAISED Taxes.
He SUPPORTS obama's DREAM ACT@
He has BOTH positions on the afghanistan war.
Sorry yall, but Perry is a lib. An angry lib who is trying his best to act like a smug tea partier.
An actor who is sucking up to ignorant ass base voters. That's it!
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I like that fact that he does support financial aid for the students of illegal immigrants....these kids are here through no fault of their own and by giving them the ability to get an education he prevents more serious problems down the road
Do you teach college level?
I also like that he gave an executive order making it mandatory to have girls innoculated against the HSV virus so that they would not later develop pussy cancer (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...anything that makes girls less vulnerable to this is a good thing since girls are going to have sex with multiple partners as they grow up
I've been thinking about this one a lot.
I'm thinking way too dictatorial, especially given that he was not enforcing an existing law. When Presidents and govenors utilize executive orders, not to enforce existing laws, but to make their own, I think it goes well beyond the bounds.
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We're gonna tell the EPA we don't need you monkeyin' around and fiddlin' around and gittin' in our bidness on every kind of regulation that you can dream up. Yer doin' nothin' more than killin' jobs. It is a cemetery for jobs at the EPA and Mr. Cain hit the spot tonight when he said you need to put someone in there who's gonna be a pro jobs, pro American Administrator and tell 'em every day this is gonna be about creatin' jobs in America."
English - do you speak it, MFer?
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perry served in congress as a dem and had a lifetime of liberal positions - until it became politically convenient (the bush gov era) to be conservative.
VOILA!
He stole the Bush swagger, behavior, and eventually, governor job!
But, when given the job, what did he do? He let his lib colors show!
He TRIPLED the TX debt.
He used his executive order to FORCE those HPV shots.
He RAISED Taxes.
He SUPPORTS obama's DREAM ACT@
He has BOTH positions on the afghanistan war.
Sorry yall, but Perry is a lib. An angry lib who is trying his best to act like a smug tea partier.
An actor who is sucking up to ignorant ass base voters. That's it!
I think you are being somewhat harsh on him but what you are saying here is essentially true..I might vote for him if he takes back what he said about Social Security being a ponzi scheme
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I think you are being somewhat harsh on him but what you are saying here is essentially true..I might vote for him if he takes back what he said about Social Security being a ponzi scheme
Krugman said it's a ponzi scheme too.
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Do you teach college level?
I've been thinking about this one a lot.
I'm thinking way too dictatorial, especially given that he was not enforcing an existing law. When Presidents and govenors utilize executive orders, not to enforce existing laws, but to make their own, I think it goes well beyond the bounds.
I don't have a problem with it because he was trying to strengthen public health.....I myself would make my daughters take that vaccine to save them from all the nasty men out there..LOL....and anyway, the government already does what Perry did through their making it mandatory for all kids to get vaccination before being able to attend school....
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Krugman said it's a ponzi scheme too.
Krugman is bright but if he said that then he's wrong as well....you have to show me proof that he said that..that doesn't sound like a quote he would make
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Krugman is bright but if he said that then he's wrong as well....you have to show me proof that he said that..that doesn't sound like a quote he would make
Go check my Rick perry thread on this. Verbatim.
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I think I might vote for Perry.....depending on what happens in the next few months with the economy....I really think Mitt Romney comes across as a rich momma's boy who doesn't have the fire to fight for a nomination that by all rights should be his..he let Bachmann and Perry come in and take his thunder
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I think I might vote for Perry.....depending on what happens in the next few months with the economy....I really think Mitt Romney comes across as a rich momma's boy who doesn't have the fire to fight for a nomination that by all rights should be his..he let Bachmann and Perry come in and take his thunder
Ricky Perry sucks dude. Get informed. When is it right for one man to decide that millions of little girls get a potentially harmful vaccine? Big government at its worst. Strange how so many Americans want to go back to 16th century England where a King rules over everyone's lives.
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Ricky Perry sucks dude. Get informed. When is it right for one man to decide that millions of little girls get a potentially harmful vaccine? Big government at its worst. Strange how so many Americans want to go back to 16th century England where a King rules over everyone's lives.
I think you are the one who needs to get informed.....vaccines are always being maligned by crazy people who think that they are potentially dangerous,.,,,but the fact is serious injury or death rarely results from vaccines..thats a really big myth that you are trying to continue here....
people thought that vaccines were the cause of autism..that has since been proven wrong....
the government has the right to protect its citizens from disease...they ordered all children to be vaccinated against mumps, measles, chicken pox etc....are you against that too?>???
Rick Perry did the right thing..you have been brainwashed by the right wing to believe that the government shouldn't make us do anything....
I would take my daughters in for this shot in a second and I plan on doing so.....if you are unwilling to protect your daughters from a cancer that is totally preventable then you must be absolutely out of your fucking mind!!!!!!.
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Something about perry I don't like.
Can't describe it. I prefer romney to perry at this point if those two are the choice.
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Something about perry I don't like.
Can't describe it. I prefer romney to perry at this point if those two are the choice.
Romney is weak....rich momma's boy who never had to fight for anything..the presidency is way too big for him
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Romney is weak....rich momma's boy who never had to fight for anything..the presidency is way too big for him
I prefer Paul and Bachmann - and probably like Bachmann more at this point just because Ron Paul simply does not really want to win.
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Romney is weak....rich momma's boy who never had to fight for anything..the presidency is way too big for him
WTF did Perry have to "fight for"?
The dude wins elections by running as whatever is popular at the moment. He an ACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's won 10 or 11 elections - Half as a Dem, 1/4 as a moderate, and the last 1/4 as a tea partier.
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I like that fact that he does support financial aid for the students of illegal immigrants....these kids are here through no fault of their own and by giving them the ability to get an education he prevents more serious problems down the road
I like that idea too, after we give financial aid to every single American student!
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I like that idea too, after we give financial aid to every single American student!
maybe rick perry has a reason for wanting to give more breaks to illegals than legals.
can any of our resident Perry supports explain?
Wait, I don't think we have any resident perry supporters. I think they're like "We like him more than obama, but jeez louise, why does this crop of candidates suck so bad''?
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I prefer Paul and Bachmann - and probably like Bachmann more at this point just because Ron Paul simply does not really want to win.
Ron Paul has no inner fire and does not have the campaign chops to win..he sounds good in debates and on the internet but thats as far as it goes....he doesn't campaign well and he killed himself when he said that he would let a young man die if he didn't have health insurance
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WTF did Perry have to "fight for"?
The dude wins elections by running as whatever is popular at the moment. He an ACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's won 10 or 11 elections - Half as a Dem, 1/4 as a moderate, and the last 1/4 as a tea partier.
Thats his business.....I'm going by what the man has done...which is impressive by Republican standards....all politicians are actors.......Romney won't even defend his own healthcare plan which he enacted in Mass.....Perry is not perfect by any means....but would you prefer Bachmann or Palin or Gingrich as prez???
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I like that idea too, after we give financial aid to every single American student!
every single American student CAN get financial aid if they are eligible
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Thats his business.....I'm going by what the man has done...which is impressive by Republican standards....all politicians are actors.......
But not all politicians have COMPLETELY FLIPFLOPPED like this. I mean, you can't list a further flipflop than 1) Working to make Al Gore president to 2) Running as a loud mouth tea partier.
but would you prefer Bachmann or Palin or Gingrich as prez???
Bachmann or Newt - Absolutely!
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maybe rick perry has a reason for wanting to give more breaks to illegals than legals.
can any of our resident Perry supports explain?
Wait, I don't think we have any resident perry supporters. I think they're like "We like him more than obama, but jeez louise, why does this crop of candidates suck so bad''?
I like Perry in comparison to the other Republicans...he has some humanity and he's not a phony like the others......although he was really stupid to say he made a mistake in terms of forcing girls to be vaccinated against HSV...the rest of them are posturing for the tea party
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But not all politicians have COMPLETELY FLIPFLOPPED like this. I mean, you can't list a further flipflop than 1) Working to make Al Gore president to 2) Running as a loud mouth tea partier.
Bachmann or Newt - Absolutely!
then you must be out of your mind..you want Newt, who criticized Prez Clinton about his thing with Monica Lewinsky while at the same time Newt himself was having an affair and divorced his wife while she was in the hospital...WOW..that's integrity for ya!..not to mention the guy is in debt up to the gills!
Bachmann is a hypocrite who goes on and on about how we have to stop giving out entitlements but neglected to tell us she was getting thousands upon thousands of dollars in gov't subsidies AND was profiting on Medicaid while at the same time she wants to cut it!!!!
if you want these two for prez....wow..GOD bless you!!!!!
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then you must be out of your mind..you want Newt, who criticized Prez Clinton about his thing with Monica Lewinsky while at the same time Newt himself was having an affair and divorced his wife while she was in the hospital...WOW..that's integrity for ya!..not to mention the guy is in debt up to the gills!
Bachmann is a hypocrite who goes on and on about how we have to stop giving out entitlements but neglected to tell us she was getting thousands upon thousands of dollars in gov't subsidies AND was profiting on Medicaid while at the same time she wants to cut it!!!!
if you want these two for prez....wow..GOD bless you!!!!!
Newt is a jackass who can't keep it in his pants, but he's been pretty consistent with republican ideals. Perry was a DEMOCRAT who forced thru a lot of liberal things that Newt would NEVER do.
Bachmann is a compulsize liar and flake, but her professional record (what she did in office and best indicator of what she'll do as president) is remarkably conservaittve and CONSISTENT.
You know what you're getting when people run for president. We all knew Bush was a neocon - his staff wrote PNAC 6 months before he got elected - he was about transformative change in mid east, they todl us that! Clinton, we knew what we were getting. And Obama - we knew he was the MOST liberal in congress, and has been the MOST liberal as president.
Perry dresses as a tea partier but has a HUGE record - 30 years - of being a democrat and forcing govt things doesn people's throats. THAT is exaclty what he'll do as president.
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I don t think 240 does, he's just being 240 lol
Perry won't stand up to presidential scrutiny. I don't see him getting too far.
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I like Perry in comparison to the other Republicans...he has some humanity and he's not a phony like the others......although he was really stupid to say he made a mistake in terms of forcing girls to be vaccinated against HSV...the rest of them are posturing for the tea party
Perry comes across as a more arrogant, less restrained, less inteligent, version of GWB to me.
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Perry comes across as a more arrogant, less restrained, less inteligent, version of GWB to me.
amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT
Even Dubya was conservative all along. Imagine a dumber, more reckless Bush who speend over 2 decades as a democrat. LMAO!
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amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT
Even Dubya was conservative all along. Imagine a dumber, more reckless Bush who speend over 2 decades as a democrat. LMAO!
Perry is my least fav so far. i prefer Santorum over perry at this point.
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Perry is my least fav so far. i prefer Santorum over perry at this point.
i prefer evreyone on that stage over Perry.
I'ts AWESOME to see you aren't in love with him, 33. Youre getting shrewd in your old age!
Once the voters know what a Lib/Dem the guy is - and how corrput - and how he loves his illegals -
I don't see how he wins. But hey, GOP voters put up Mccain, so you never know about their judgment...
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Newt is a jackass who can't keep it in his pants, but he's been pretty consistent with republican ideals. Perry was a DEMOCRAT who forced thru a lot of liberal things that Newt would NEVER do.
Newt's politics are way out of sync with the average American
Bachmann is a compulsize liar and flake, but her professional record (what she did in office and best indicator of what she'll do as president) is remarkably conservaittve and CONSISTENT.
Bachmann IS a liar and flake as you put it...why would you want a liar and flake as president?????
You know what you're getting when people run for president. We all knew Bush was a neocon - his staff wrote PNAC 6 months before he got elected - he was about transformative change in mid east, they todl us that! Clinton, we knew what we were getting. And Obama - we knew he was the MOST liberal in congress, and has been the MOST liberal as president.
Perry dresses as a tea partier but has a HUGE record - 30 years - of being a democrat and forcing govt things doesn people's throats. THAT is exaclty what he'll do as president.
nothing wrong with forcing things down people's throats....sometimes the public doesn't know whats good for them and you have to force the issue...in terms of preventing thousands of women from contracting pussy cancer....I think this is one of those times when its warranted..I don't have a problem with it at all..Rick Perry should not have a problem with it either...because of him countless numbers of women and girls will be spared cancer
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nothing wrong with forcing things down people's throats....sometimes the public doesn't know whats good for them and you have to force the issue...in terms of preventing thousands of women from contracting pussy cancer....I think this is one of those times when its warranted..I don't have a problem with it at all..Rick Perry should not have a problem with it either...because of him countless numbers of women and girls will be spared cancer
Are you serious?
How about I force PT on fat people on welfare are 6 am for an hour a day?
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Rick Perry sucks.
He sucks really bad..
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nothing wrong with forcing things down people's throats....sometimes the public doesn't know whats good for them and you have to force the issue
You may be right or you may be wrong - But we can agree that this goes 100% against the Tea Party beliefs that we need LESS govt and regulation and more personal freedom.
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I don t think 240 does, he's just being 240 lol
Perry won't stand up to presidential scrutiny. I don't see him getting too far.
Perry is the only electable candidate on the Republican side......people just don't know it yet..LOL
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Perry comes across as a more arrogant, less restrained, less inteligent, version of GWB to me.
maybe....we'll see
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amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT
Even Dubya was conservative all along. Imagine a dumber, more reckless Bush who speend over 2 decades as a democrat. LMAO!
Perry will appeal to the middle.....he definitely is not tea party material
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i prefer evreyone on that stage over Perry.
I'ts AWESOME to see you aren't in love with him, 33. Youre getting shrewd in your old age!
Once the voters know what a Lib/Dem the guy is - and how corrput - and how he loves his illegals -
I don't see how he wins. But hey, GOP voters put up Mccain, so you never know about their judgment...
you left out that 3333 has a long history of picking extremist losers
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Perry will appeal to the middle.....he definitely is not tea party material
The middle of what? I will vote for him if he is the nominee - but he is worst of the lot by far. Even Santorum is far better than Perry
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Are you serious?
How about I force PT on fat people on welfare are 6 am for an hour a day?
don't start getting out of hand..stay focused....you're beginning to lose it again
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Perry will appeal to the middle.....he definitely is not tea party material
You think his views on sociual security will sell well with voters?
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He sucks really bad..
everyone sucks really bad on the Republican side
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You may be right or you may be wrong - But we can agree that this goes 100% against the Tea Party beliefs that we need LESS govt and regulation and more personal freedom.
agreed but any one who appeals to the tea party is not my cup of tea..no pun intended ;)
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The middle of what? I will vote for him if he is the nominee - but he is worst of the lot by far. Even Santorum is far better than Perry
who cares what Santorum thinks?...he's dead in the water
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every6 sucks really bad on the Republican side
Maybe they know Obama will probably win, ,as the inccumbent, and are waiting 4 more years...
Which Republicans Aren't Running - But SHOULD be Running?
THe top 2 repubs right now are one RINO (Romneycare) and one former democrat (HPV, DREAM act, corruption, and worked to make Al Gore President).
The next tiers on the ladder are Bachmann (who is a weird compulsive liar), Ron Paul (who is too old), Newt (brilliant but an idiot on common sense), and a few others who aren't going to win the nomination.
Now, I'm no Palin fan, but she would be destroying this weak crop of candidates. Jeb would be cruising right now. Even a lean Christie would be the only consistent one in this group. Or Paul Ryan. Or Cantor.
Why is it that there are only the 2nd-Tier candidates running? Why isn't Hutchison, Rudy, or Huck running? Is it that tough to beat an incumbent? I think a Republican Debate with Paul Ryan, Jeb, Palin, Rudy, Huck, Christie, Kay Bailey Hutchison would be STELLAR - And I suspect we'll see most of them in 2016.
Why not now?
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You think his views on sociual security will sell well with voters?
No....he was an idiot to say what he did...but we can't all be perfect
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Obama is gone 240 - get over it.
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Maybe they know Obama will probably win, ,as the inccumbent, and are waiting 4 more years...
Which Republicans Aren't Running - But SHOULD be Running?
THe top 2 repubs right now are one RINO (Romneycare) and one former democrat (HPV, DREAM act, corruption, and worked to make Al Gore President).
The next tiers on the ladder are Bachmann (who is a weird compulsive liar), Ron Paul (who is too old), Newt (brilliant but an idiot on common sense), and a few others who aren't going to win the nomination.
Now, I'm no Palin fan, but she would be destroying this weak crop of candidates. Jeb would be cruising right now. Even a lean Christie would be the only consistent one in this group. Or Paul Ryan. Or Cantor.
Why is it that there are only the 2nd-Tier candidates running? Why isn't Hutchison, Rudy, or Huck running? Is it that tough to beat an incumbent? I think a Republican Debate with Paul Ryan, Jeb, Palin, Rudy, Huck, Christie, Kay Bailey Hutchison would be STELLAR - And I suspect we'll see most of them in 2016.
Why not now?
good post....I would vote for Jeb over Obama if he ran.....and what does it say about these bunch of losers if Palin could beat them>????..she's an idiot and makes people cringe
Jeb Bush however would have been an awesome candidate
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Obama is gone 240 - get over it.
lol at you bringing obama into a perry thread
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Obama is gone 240 - get over it.
NOT YET....
Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites
and he could still get elected
but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed
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NOT YET....
Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites
and he could still get elected
but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed
Keep telling yourself that.
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Perry is my least fav so far. i prefer Santorum over perry at this point.
Bachmann and Romney turned Perry inside out at this last debate and exposed him as nothing more than an empty suit.
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Obama could easily get re-elected.
All he has to do:
1. Get gas to go down .50+
2. Get UE to go down 1-2%
and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term.
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Obama could easily get re-elected.
All he has to do:
1. Get gas to go down .50+
2. Get UE to go down 1-2%
and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term.
Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.
Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.
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Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.
I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct. professionals.
Ron paul or bachmann, probably not. A little nutty, but manageable.
Perry - entirely possible. Still figuring out where he stands on many issues. His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling. I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.
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NOT YET....
Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites
and he could still get elected
but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed
LMAOOOOOO-- You're a teacher who sucks at basic math. 85% of 10% of the country and 65% of 25% of the country and you somehow come to the conclusion that he only needs 35% of whites?
Put down the crackpipe Arnold. Come back to reality please. Whites make up 72% of the population. This isn't Uganda or El Salvador (although many liberals wish it was).
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
Obama needs the majority of whites and clean sweeps with both black and hispanic voters. The only problem is that blacks historically turn out very low and the anti Obama tide is getting stronger as more and more people are coming to the realization that liberalism only benefits government employees and criminals.
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I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct. professionals.
Ron paul or bachmann, probably not. A little nutty, but manageable.
Perry - entirely possible. Still figuring out where he stands on many issues. His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling. I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.
Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor. Mitt is a RINO if I ever saw one. Paul is a fringe lunatic to a lot of people and also has no shot of getting the nomination. Bachmann is too polarizing. Perry is also deeply flawed. Cain is my kind of nominee and so is Newt-- but both have no chance. But guess what? I don't give a shit who gets the nominee. My vote is in the bank. I would venture to say that 85-95% of registered Republicans feel exactly the same way.
Newt alluded to this during the debate. For the GOP and the nation as a whole, its US versus THEM. The worst we have to offer is better than the alternative.
Nobody is worse than Osama.
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Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor.
In aug/sept 2007, four years ago, #1 was Rudy and #2 was Fred Thompson. #3 and 4 were Mccain and Romney, I think.
My own belief is that Huntsmann - if not the PERFECT veep selection - is running as romney was in 2008. Get in, end up in 3rd or 4th, and you're the dignified frontrunner in 2016.
I agree I will vote any repub over obama, even perry. I just don't see him as automatically beatable. We're in the middle of a second gret depression, even if FOX and MSNBC aren't telling us about it. The fact obama still leads in some polls - in the middle of a dpression the partially caused - tells me his chances are good.
Plus he can start wars and allow attacks to garner support (bush did), he can paint the news/declare terror threats whenever he wants (bush did) and cheat in elections (yep).
Obama will cheat his ass off to stay in power. Perry and Mitt won't have that kind of power to manipulate situations.
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Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.
Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.
I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation. There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet.
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I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation. There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet.
I disagree. The 2010 midterms were just the beginning. As I said above, I will vote for anyone except Obama no matter what. I truly believe most people feel that way except the truly deranged leftist slobs, public sector employee unions, blacks and Rosie O'Donald.
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nothing wrong with forcing things down people's throats....sometimes the public doesn't know whats good for them and you have to force the issue...in terms of preventing thousands of women from contracting pussy cancer....I think this is one of those times when its warranted..I don't have a problem with it at all..Rick Perry should not have a problem with it either...because of him countless numbers of women and girls will be spared cancer
Well, that pretty much erases any doubt that you might not be a Marxist schmuck. Tell me Lenin, is there anything else that you want to play god over?
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Yep and our sons must die to perpetuate the growth of our economy while masked in the taking down of an evil dictator.
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Bachmann and Romney turned Perry inside out at this last debate and exposed him as nothing more than an empty suit.
I don't think so....Perry is going through some bumps whichn is normal for a new candidate..the others are more experienced and have been on the trail longer....he'll learn quickly and come around......but I really think he is making a mistake by trying to cowtow to the tea party...he should position himself as a moderate Republican (which is what he is) and try to take the party back from the extremists
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Obama could easily get re-elected.
All he has to do:
1. Get gas to go down .50+
2. Get UE to go down 1-2%
and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term.
good post...this post is absolutely true..if the UE goes to 7% and gas goes down Obama can make the case that things are getting better and that he needs to stay in office to finish the job instead of trusting a republican who might very well bring things to a screeching halt due to new policies
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Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.
Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.
I think Obama could conceivably win a second term but it will be tricky I agree....he would have to win pennsylvania again, as well as virginia and indiana and new mexico all of which is unlikely
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I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct. professionals.
Ron paul or bachmann, probably not. A little nutty, but manageable.
Perry - entirely possible. Still figuring out where he stands on many issues. His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling. I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.
I think he needs a little more experience...but hes foolish if he tries to run away from his record..its very hard for Governors to do that
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LMAOOOOOO-- You're a teacher who sucks at basic math. 85% of 10% of the country and 65% of 25% of the country and you somehow come to the conclusion that he only needs 35% of whites?
Put down the crackpipe Arnold. Come back to reality please. Whites make up 72% of the population. This isn't Uganda or El Salvador (although many liberals wish it was).
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
Obama needs the majority of whites and clean sweeps with both black and hispanic voters. The only problem is that blacks historically turn out very low and the anti Obama tide is getting stronger as more and more people are coming to the realization that liberalism only benefits government employees and criminals.
you make a very good point here but you're forgetting that most of the white vote is worthless in the general election due to a lot of it being clustered in states where Obama won't win anyway....north and south Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, etc, etc, Obama only has to worry about the white vote in places like Pennsylvania, florida, Indiana, New Mexico, Virginia, etc
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Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor. Mitt is a RINO if I ever saw one. Paul is a fringe lunatic to a lot of people and also has no shot of getting the nomination. Bachmann is too polarizing. Perry is also deeply flawed. Cain is my kind of nominee and so is Newt-- but both have no chance. But guess what? I don't give a shit who gets the nominee. My vote is in the bank. I would venture to say that 85-95% of registered Republicans feel exactly the same way.
Newt alluded to this during the debate. For the GOP and the nation as a whole, its US versus THEM. The worst we have to offer is better than the alternative.
Nobody is worse than Osama.
LOL at "Cuntsman"....Perry could beat Obama because many conservative democrats can stomach him and vote for him without guilt..conservatives and the tea party would have no choice....your observations about the rest of the field is spot on
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good post...this post is absolutely true..if the UE goes to 7% and gas goes down Obama can make the case that things are getting better and that he needs to stay in office to finish the job instead of trusting a republican who night very well bring things to a screeching halt due to new policies
Yeah, I just don't think it's a slam dunk. If the election were held today I think yes. But a lot can happen in 1 year. I hope he doesn't get reelected. But there are many people who are just plain ignorant about what's going on and there are also many who will vote based on their situation and not their ideals this time around due to the high unemployment and under employment.
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I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation. There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet.
agreed...this would have been the year for McCain to run again..with a better choice of a VP candidate
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Well, that pretty much erases any doubt that you might not be a Marxist schmuck. Tell me Lenin, is there anything else that you want to play god over?
are you saying that the government is wrong to make kids take vaccinations???...first of all
1. it is a publics health issue....if there is a vaccine to prevent girls and women from getting the HSV virus and preventing them from developing cancer, then you are saying that we should not give this to them>?,,the government makes our children take vaccinations all the time..why is this different?
2. It is shocking that Michele Bachmann, a woman, is not out front on this issue to make sure that women are protected against HSV
3.
It is also a fiscal issue as this spares the government from having to treat all the women who would otherwise develop cancer...thus making treatment very expensive.....
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are you saying that the government is wrong to make kids take vaccinations???...first of all
1. it is a publics health issue....if there is a vaccine to prevent girls and women from getting the HSV virus and preventing them from developing cancer, then you are saying that we should not give this to them>?,,the government makes our children take vaccinations all the time..why is this different?
2. It is shocking that Michele Bachmann, a woman, is not out front on this issue to make sure that women are protected against HSV
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It is also a fiscal issue as this spares the government from having to treat all the women who would otherwise develop cancer...thus making treatment very expensive.....
The issue is that this should be decided by legislature, not the executive. This is a clear abuse of power by an egotistical, self-righteous douchebag.
Also, where does it end? Like a chickenshit little bitch you ran from 33's question about fat people.
For fat people:
1. It's a public health issue
2. It's shocking how many fat politicians there are
3. It's a fiscal issue as it spares the government from having to treat...
Oh look, the same fucking argument you made. What a shock. ::)
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The issue is that this should be decided by legislature, not the executive. This is a clear abuse of power by an egotistical, self-righteous douchebag.
Also, where does it end? Like a chickenshit little bitch you ran from 33's question about fat people.
For fat people:
1. It's a public health issue
2. It's shocking how many fat politicians there are
3. It's a fiscal issue as it spares the government from having to treat...
Oh look, the same fucking argument you made. What a shock. ::)
Didn't run from anything....the day I run form you and 3333 I'll leave getbig forever......there is a history of the gov't ordering vaccinations.....there is no history of the gov't ordering fat people to exercise or whatever....besides....i f the legislature and courts in Texas felt it was a bad idea and an abuse of power, they would overturn it..so far, they haven't
However, in the tradition of fairness I can conceive how you and others could interpret Perry's order as tyrannical.....here in NY city, Mayor Bloomberg ordered that there can be no smoking in Restaurants, bars or public places..people were pissed and accused him of the same thing
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Didn't run from anything....the day I run form you and 3333 I'll leave getbig forever......there is a history of the gov't ordering vaccinations.....there is no history of the gov't ordering fat people to exercise or whatever....besides....i f the legislature and courts in Texas felt it was a bad idea and an abuse of power, they would overturn it..so far, they haven't
However, in the tradition of fairness I can conceive how you and others could interpret Perry's order as tyrannical.....here in NY city, Mayor Bloomberg ordered that there can be no smoking in Restaurants, bars or public places..people were pissed and accused him of the same thing
Precedent? Hahaha...that's your argument?
Well, I guess that justifies everything.
My bad, I'll stop...forgot you were that dumb.
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Precedent? Hahaha...that's your argument?
Well, I guess that justifies everything.
My bad, I'll stop...forgot you were that dumb.
sigh....do me a favor...please ignore my posts and don't respond...I only want to talk to people who have critical thinking skills and can see both sides of the issues....this forum is too much for your limited thinking....with guys like you, Berzerk fairy, 3333, Dario, whorewell, gigantor,...I have yet to see any of you admit you were wrong about any particular issue...facts mean nothing to you guys ....you just keep going with your stupid nonsense....
THINK
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sigh....do me a favor...please ignore my posts and don't respond...I only want to talk to people who have critical thinking skills and can see both sides of the issues....this forum is too much for your limited thinking....with guys like you, Berzerk fairy, 3333, Dario, whorewell, gigantor,...I have yet to see any of you admit you were wrong about any particular issue...facts mean nothing to you guys ....you just keep going with your stupid nonsense....
THINK
Oh please, save it retard. I didn't bother responding with any substance because your dumb ass obviously doesn't even know or understand the issue.
Here's a good example. You claim:
.besides....if the legislature and courts in Texas felt it was a bad idea and an abuse of power, they would overturn it..so far, they haven't
Yes, his Executive Order was overturned moron (HB 1098).
Need Proof? Here: http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=14381
This is the fundamental problem with you. You don't know the issue, you don't know the facts, you have no ability to apply or discern the surrounding issues, and you have no critical thinking skills.
"Claiming" you're going for your 2nd Masters degree doesn't make you smart, dipshit.
As we can see above, your stupidity shines all too brightly.
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LMFAO @ the fact DEMOCRAT lawmakers had to stop Perry for forcing immunizations.
And he claims to be about personal freedoms?
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LMFAO @ the fact DEMOCRAT lawmakers had to stop Perry for forcing immunizations.
And he claims to be about personal freedoms?
From what I've read, I thought the Republicans controlled the House and Senate in Texas at the time of the repeal - but, I'm not sure.
McTones may be able to help us here.
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Well, the repeal was introduced by a Republican.
"Roughly 60 state lawmakers called on Perry to rescind the order. He refused. Just six weeks after Perry put pen to paper, the Texas House rebuked him on March 14, 2007, passing HB 1098, overturning his executive order by a vote of 119-21. The Senate followed suit the following month by a vote of 30-1.
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In response, the sponsor of HB 1098, Republican state Rep. Dennis Bonnen, blasted Perry for "using cancer victims as his backdrop for an issue that he has grossly misjudged.""
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089-full.html
240, you wouldn't be following Guideline #1 along with Andre, would you?
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I think you are being somewhat harsh on him but what you are saying here is essentially true..I might vote for him if he takes back what he said about Social Security being a ponzi scheme
You're going to vote for him in the primary or the general (if he makes it), or both?
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Well, the repeal was introduced by a Republican.
"Roughly 60 state lawmakers called on Perry to rescind the order. He refused. Just six weeks after Perry put pen to paper, the Texas House rebuked him on March 14, 2007, passing HB 1098, overturning his executive order by a vote of 119-21. The Senate followed suit the following month by a vote of 30-1.
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In response, the sponsor of HB 1098, Republican state Rep. Dennis Bonnen, blasted Perry for "using cancer victims as his backdrop for an issue that he has grossly misjudged.""
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089-full.html
240, you wouldn't be following Guideline #1 along with Andre, would you?
lol. As usual.
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Oh please, save it retard. I didn't bother responding with any substance because your dumb ass obviously doesn't even know or understand the issue.
Here's a good example. You claim:
Yes, his Executive Order was overturned moron (HB 1098).
Need Proof? Here: http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=14381
This is the fundamental problem with you. You don't know the issue, you don't know the facts, you have no ability to apply or discern the surrounding issues, and you have no critical thinking skills.
"Claiming" you're going for your 2nd Masters degree doesn't make you smart, dipshit.
As we can see above, your stupidity shines all too brightly.
your insults not withstanding, I never claimed to be an expert on Texas politics.....if their legislature overturned it ,,,then good for them....I didn't know that....and I do thank you for pointing that out to me..........I think you were actually looking in the mirror when you made your critical thinking comment..
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Shoe me proof that NO democrats voted against this bill, please.
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your insults not withstanding, I never claimed to be an expert on Texas politics.....if their legislature overturned it ,,,then good for them....I didn't know that....and I do thank you for pointing that out to me..........I think you were actually looking in the mirror when you made your critical thinking comment..
I'm not an expert on Texas politics either tard.
But, I don't need to make shit up.
If you're going to argue the point, at least try and read up on it a little, and maybe...just maybe, THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE taking a side.
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Shoe me proof that NO democrats voted against this bill, please.
Ah, Guideline #7 - way to try and save e-face. ::)
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Ah, Guideline #7 - way to try and save e-face. ::)
LOL @ eface!!!
I'm wrong all the time about shit. But if all the dems voted to keep it, and the repubs overturned perry, I will send $20 to the TX GOp right now and screenshot it :)
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Yeah, I see. We took this out of context:
LMFAO @ the fact DEMOCRAT lawmakers had to stop Perry for forcing immunizations.
Clearly you meant the minority of Democrats who joined with the Republicans had to stop Perry.
Yep, Guideline #7 in full swing tonight.
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Yeah, I see. We took this out of context:
Clearly you meant the minority of Democrats who joined with the Republicans had to stop Perry.
Yep, Guideline #7 in full swing tonight.
Does this guy ever tell the truth about anything? It seems like he's caught lying more often than he's not.
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Does this guy ever tell the truth about anything? It seems like he's caught lying more often than he's not.
Yeah, between him and Andre, I'm thinking of jumping on the bandwagon myself.
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Yeah, between him and Andre, I'm thinking of jumping on the bandwagon myself.
It's hilarious how applicable your list is to people like 180 and andre. ;D
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I'm not an expert on Texas politics either tard.
But, I don't need to make shit up.
If you're going to argue the point, at least try and read up on it a little, and maybe...just maybe, THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE taking a side.
my only mistake was that I didn't know that his order was overturned...and I thanked you for informing me of that...but I still am on Perry's side and thought he did the right thing..there was nothing to think about
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You're going to vote for him in the primary or the general (if he makes it), or both?
General
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I still think that Perry, as a moderate republican can help bring his party back to the mainstream and even win the general against Obama..but he can't fake like he's a tea-partier..he can't run from his record...he's got to stand strong on his principle and not flip flop to please the tea party and hard-righters
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there was nothing to think about
Kind of a repetitive pattern with you, eh?
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I still think that Perry, as a moderate republican can help bring his party back to the mainstream and even win the general against Obama..but he can't fake like he's a tea-partier..he can't run from his record...he's got to stand strong on his principle and not flip flop to please the tea party and hard-righters
Who is hard right?
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I have had some ambivalence toward Rick Perry ....I'm not too aware of his politics but have been slowly learning about the man.....I didn't like his characterization of Social Security as a "ponzi scheme"...I thought it was a stupid thing to say and was his way of scaring the electorate..but some other things came out during the debates that made me look at him in a more positive light
I like that fact that he does support financial aid for the students of illegal immigrants....these kids are here through no fault of their own and by giving them the ability to get an education he prevents more serious problems down the road
I also like that he gave an executive order making it mandatory to have girls innoculated against the HSV virus so that they would not later develop pussy cancer (sorry, don't know how else to put it)...anything that makes girls less vulnerable to this is a good thing since girls are going to have sex with multiple partners as they grow up
I really think Perry is a different kind of Republican...he actually has some humanity and doesn't just look at the bottom line (money)..both of the above were the right thing to do for the public and he had the guts to do it..makes me change some of the negativity I had toward him and it makes me consider voting for him if there is a total implosion by Obama
I thought Michele Bachmann was very insensitive about the above and tied to rip Perry a new asshole..but she was wrong and came off to me as uncaring..just as most Republicans do..Perry could conceivably get Democratic votes if he stays moderate and doesn't back down from the the more hard-line elements of his party
LOL @ Rick Perry as having some "humanity" because of the HPV and Children of illegal immigrants issues
Let's call it spade to spade, illegal immigrant labor is as close to slave labor as Big Money in America can get away with and the fact that their kids can eventually go to college on the United States dole is more incentive to come over here illegally and perform that 15 to 18 dollar an hour framing job for 8 or 9 dollars, sometimes less. By taking the stance Perry took at the Tea Party debate, it's BLATANTLY obvious that Perry encourages illegal immigration in this country. Crystal clear. So all you right wingers need to realize you ARE voting for a Pro Illegal immigrant candidate.
How about Perry with the Texas NAFTA Superhighway issue? A plan that will eventually have Mexican Drivers traveling not just a few miles over the border but ALL over the United States, taking even MORE jobs away from Americans. The Department of Transportation actually does a decent job of regulating trucking by implementing hours of service and standards for the equipment companies put on the highway. I've been on the border in Laredo and McAllen, I've SEEN how some of these Mexican truckers drive with no inhibitions or care or concern on the road; running red lights, never using signals, switching lanes without looking. Hell, take a trip across the bridge and see how difficult a standard 4 way stop is for these people in their cars, and you are supporting a guy who wants to bring these drivers to YOUR neighborhoods? Just remember it's NEVER US going into Mexico and driving on their streets, never US TAKING jobs away from China or US immigrating to Africa or the Middle East. It's always these other countries taking away our quality of life. Perry OBVIOUSLY supports this on all counts! Oh and just some food for thought, how exactly are we going to tell whether or not these Mexican Drivers have been driving for 30 hours straight BEFORE they cross into the US and drive 10 more, putting tax paying U.S. families at risk??
As far the HPV issue, do you REALLY think that was decision based on Humanity? LOL, how can you be that delusional? If you don't think he got some sort of major financial kick back from that deal then I got some ocean front property New Mexico to sell you. That was a money deal for Rick Perry through and through.
When I see Rick Perry on stage I don't see some person who cares about the United States people, I just see Corruption. Period.
You want to see the 1850's Slave Owner in modern form? Look no further than Rick Perry.
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Maybe they know Obama will probably win, ,as the inccumbent, and are waiting 4 more years...
Which Republicans Aren't Running - But SHOULD be Running?
THe top 2 repubs right now are one RINO (Romneycare) and one former democrat (HPV, DREAM act, corruption, and worked to make Al Gore President).
The next tiers on the ladder are Bachmann (who is a weird compulsive liar), Ron Paul (who is too old), Newt (brilliant but an idiot on common sense), and a few others who aren't going to win the nomination.
Now, I'm no Palin fan, but she would be destroying this weak crop of candidates. Jeb would be cruising right now. Even a lean Christie would be the only consistent one in this group. Or Paul Ryan. Or Cantor.
Why is it that there are only the 2nd-Tier candidates running? Why isn't Hutchison, Rudy, or Huck running? Is it that tough to beat an incumbent? I think a Republican Debate with Paul Ryan, Jeb, Palin, Rudy, Huck, Christie, Kay Bailey Hutchison would be STELLAR - And I suspect we'll see most of them in 2016.
Why not now?
Excellent point.
Kay Bailey Hutchison could DEFINITELY take it. Very bright, articulate and well spoken. Comes across as compassionate, no major flaws or morality issues.
Hutchison had troubles against Perry for the Governership but in a nationwide election she would absolutely DESTROY Obama with Women and White Males and would OWN the south, it wouldn't even be close.
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Kind of a repetitive pattern with you, eh?
I guess your whole purpose in this thread is to stalk me....if that makes you feel good...then carry on.....do you want me to send you pictures so you can wack off to me as well???
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the top people in the repub party are sitting out.
let's face it. each of the 2012 candidates has a MAJOR flaw. They just do.
Imagine that lineup - Hutchinson, Rudy, Palin, Ryan, Cantor, Jeb - Every one of them is 100% better than this whole batch.
WHY are only the UNELECTABLE people running now? Cause obama's an incumbent, 1/2way thru.
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LOL @ Rick Perry as having some "humanity" because of the HPV and Children of illegal immigrants issues
Let's call it spade to spade, illegal immigrant labor is as close to slave labor as Big Money in America can get away with and the fact that their kids can eventually go to college on the United States dole is more incentive to come over here illegally and perform that 15 to 18 dollar an hour framing job for 8 or 9 dollars, sometimes less. By taking the stance Perry took at the Tea Party debate, it's BLATANTLY obvious that Perry encourages illegal immigration in this country. Crystal clear. So all you right wingers need to realize you ARE voting for a Pro Illegal immigrant candidate.
How about Perry with the Texas NAFTA Superhighway issue? A plan that will eventually have Mexican Drivers traveling not just a few miles over the border but ALL over the United States, taking even MORE jobs away from Americans. The Department of Transportation actually does a decent job of regulating trucking by implementing hours of service and standards for the equipment companies put on the highway. I've been on the border in Laredo and McAllen, I've SEEN how some of these Mexican truckers drive with no inhibitions or care or concern on the road; running red lights, never using signals, switching lanes without looking. Hell, take a trip across the bridge and see how difficult a standard 4 way stop is for these people in their cars, and you are supporting a guy who wants to bring these drivers to YOUR neighborhoods? Just remember it's NEVER US going into Mexico and driving on their streets, never US TAKING jobs away from China or US immigrating to Africa or the Middle East. It's always these other countries taking away our quality of life. Perry OBVIOUSLY supports this on all counts! Oh and just some food for thought, how exactly are we going to tell whether or not these Mexican Drivers have been driving for 30 hours straight BEFORE they cross into the US and drive 10 more, putting tax paying U.S. families at risk??
As far the HPV issue, do you REALLY think that was decision based on Humanity? LOL, how can you be that delusional? If you don't think he got some sort of major financial kick back from that deal then I got some ocean front property New Mexico to sell you. That was a money deal for Rick Perry through and through.
When I see Rick Perry on stage I don't see some person who cares about the United States people, I just see Corruption. Period.
You want to see the 1850's Slave Owner in modern form? Look no further than Rick Perry.
Interesting take on Rick Perry.....I don't feel its accurate, especially the corruption part, but definitely something to think about...
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the top people in the repub party are sitting out.
let's face it. each of the 2012 candidates has a MAJOR flaw. They just do.
Imagine that lineup - Hutchinson, Rudy, Palin, Ryan, Cantor, Jeb - Every one of them is 100% better than this whole batch.
WHY are only the UNELECTABLE people running now? Cause obama's an incumbent, 1/2way thru.
I'm really surprised that we haven't heard more from Jeb.....I think either 1. he just isn't interested in the job and wants to stay out of politics and make money 2. He knows there is a lot of anti-Bush sentiment in the country and he doesn't want to deal with it 3. His political bent may be even more liberal than Rick Perry thus he knows he is doomed in this political climate
I would vote for him over Obama if he declared tomorrow
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the top people in the repub party are sitting out.
let's face it. each of the 2012 candidates has a MAJOR flaw. They just do.
Imagine that lineup - Hutchinson, Rudy, Palin, Ryan, Cantor, Jeb - Every one of them is 100% better than this whole batch.
WHY are only the UNELECTABLE people running now? Cause obama's an incumbent, 1/2way thru.
I think there is more to it than that.
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I think there is more to it than that.
what else, hugo sanchez?
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He is UNELECTABLE...just like every other Republican candidate. The mass media(outside of Fox and AM Talk Radio), the entertainment industry, big cities, and some large corporations will ensure any Republican gets absolutely smeared and abused to set up an Obama 2nd term. God forbid if you are a female or black Republican, than the insults and smears come at you twice as hard........and without the protections of the various so-called "civil rights" organizations that pretend to defend AFrican-Americans and/or women.
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He is UNELECTABLE...just like every other Republican candidate. The mass media(outside of Fox and AM Talk Radio), the entertainment industry, big cities, and some large corporations will ensure any Republican gets absolutely smeared and abused to set up an Obama 2nd term. God forbid if you are a female or black Republican, than the insults and smears come at you twice as hard........and without the protections of the various so-called "civil rights" organizations that pretend to defend AFrican-Americans and/or women.
Which african-american repub candidates have been smeared in 2011?
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Which african-american repub candidates have been smeared in 2011?
None, from what I've seen. If Herman Cain were indeed a front-runner, the Godfather's Pizza CEO would get annhilated. However, he's with Ron Paul....ignored and relegated to the back seat.
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None, from what I've seen. If Herman Cain were indeed a front-runner, the Godfather's Pizza CEO would get annhilated. However, he's with Ron Paul....ignored and relegated to the back seat.
agreed but I still think Rick is electable...but as a moderate Republican..he can attract Democratic votes in the general election and republicans have no choice but to vote for him since they hate Obama so much
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agreed but I still think Rick is electable...but as a moderate Republican..he can attract Democratic votes in the general election and republicans have no choice but to vote for him since they hate Obama so much
About 3 million more United States hating Mexicans look for a way to cross that river the minute he gets in and thereby produce 12 to 15 million more cultural destroying, low intelligence, welfare recipients who do nothing but talk shit about they want take United States land and give it back to Mexico. Take a trip down there to the border where the restaurants on the Texas side clearly say "100%" Mexicano out front and see how well the Black man or White man is welcome in those establishments which are on U.S. soil.
The "DREAM" act ::)
Some of the most Anti-American, treasonous bullshit I've ever heard.
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agreed but I still think Rick is electable...but as a moderate Republican..he can attract Democratic votes in the general election and republicans have no choice but to vote for him since they hate Obama so much
Rick Perry certainly does look presidential, and a far better candidate than McCain was. I still think the economy has to further decline, however, for him to win. Or if National Security issues suddenly go on the front burner of relevant issues.
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Rick Perry certainly does look presidential, and a far better candidate than McCain was. I still think the economy has to further decline, however, for him to win. Or if National Security issues suddenly go on the front burner of relevant issues.
I can buy this...good post
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About 3 million more United States hating Mexicans look for a way to cross that river the minute he gets in and thereby produce 12 to 15 million more cultural destroying, low intelligence, welfare recipients who do nothing but talk shit about they want take United States land and give it back to Mexico. Take a trip down there to the border where the restaurants on the Texas side clearly say "100%" Mexicano out front and see how well the Black man or White man is welcome in those establishments which are on U.S. soil.
The "DREAM" act ::)
Some of the most Anti-American, treasonous bullshit I've ever heard.
The fact is that we will never be able to stop the Mexicans from coming here....Mexicans have been crossing the border and roaming thru what is now California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, etc. for hundreds and hundreds of years.....they have always traveled back and forth along this frontier and that is never going to stop...they will always do this no mater what.....it is part of their culture..some are willing to die in order to get here...nothing will stop them....even a fence can be scaled if you don't have the manpower to patrol the fence....they will just build tunnels under it......or swim....they will run en mass through checkpoints...you can't catch them all...the government knows this already.,..but they can't come out and say this because it looks bad to say they cannot police their own border....the best thing to do is to try and regulate this migration in the best way possible.....the fact of the matter is strict enforcement costs way too much in terms of locking them up, processing them in court and deporting them....we would bankrupt ourselves if we truly enforced the law the way we should.....
The laws such as the dream act bring some sanity to this problem....whether we like it or not, these kids deserve some sort of break so they can go to school......they were often brought here thru no fault of their own
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Check out this video on YouTube:
Good ad.
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Check out this video on YouTube:
Good ad.
Awesome ad I must admit...Perry sounds so much like GW however...but I really would vote for him if he becomes more moderate on Social Security
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Looking more and more like Perry is going to win it..hope he does so that the Republicans become a more moderate party again
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After last night - Perry deserves a kick in the balls. no way. I am torn now between Paul and Cain.
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After last night - Perry deserves a kick in the balls. no way. I am torn now between Paul and Cain.
it figures that a loser would want to be associated with two other losers
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Beck slams Perry on illegal immigration: Don’t you have a brain?
The Right Scoop ^ | 09/23/2011 | The Right Scoop
Posted on September 23, 2011 11:52:51 PM EDT by Rational Thought
Glenn Beck and crew were not happy that Rick Perry suggested in the debate last night that people who don’t want to give instate tuition rates to illegal aliens don’t have a heart. Pat Gray called it a Democrat talking point and Beck said that Perry should be ashamed for making such a statement and asked “don’t you have a brain?”.
In the course of the segment, Beck and crew praised Michele Bachmann for getting it right on illegal immigration.
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Perry is a fraud. And when he tries to create his own thoughts outisde of rehearsed talking points, it's very embarassing. That comment he made about mitt last night was so awkward, I forgot what it was.
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Beck slams Perry on illegal immigration: Don’t you have a brain?
The Right Scoop ^ | 09/23/2011 | The Right Scoop
Posted on September 23, 2011 11:52:51 PM EDT by Rational Thought
Glenn Beck and crew were not happy that Rick Perry suggested in the debate last night that people who don’t want to give instate tuition rates to illegal aliens don’t have a heart. Pat Gray called it a Democrat talking point and Beck said that Perry should be ashamed for making such a statement and asked “don’t you have a brain?”.
In the course of the segment, Beck and crew praised Michele Bachmann for getting it right on illegal immigration.
Glenn Beck has no idea what he is talking about,....hew looks like a repressed fag.....Perry is a fool because he is basically running away from his record which is hypocritical and not a good idea
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Perry is a fraud. And when he tries to create his own thoughts outisde of rehearsed talking points, it's very embarassing. That comment he made about mitt last night was so awkward, I forgot what it was.
it was awkward...but 100% spot on
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You are both mindless nimrods with the testicular fortitude of a 75 year old woman.
In the interest of the human race, 240 and Andre should be forced to scribble in coloring books instead of being allowed to voice their dumbass opinions.
Mubarhak Qadaffi 2012---- "Because this time, we will blame the blacks."
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You are both mindless nimrods with the testicular fortitude of a 75 year old woman.
In the interest of the human race, 240 and Andre should be forced to scribble in coloring books instead of being allowed to voice their dumbass opinions.
Mubarhak Qadaffi 2012---- "Because this time, we will blame the blacks."
I don't see anything mindless about what we said......why not address what we said head on instead of making wisecracks?
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I don't see anything mindless about what we said......why not address what we said head on instead of making wisecracks?
Because making wisecracks is a lot more fun.
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Because making wisecracks is a lot more fun.
agreed :)
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agreed :)
Perry looks like he is not ready for this. Between the illegal alien crap, the ceonyism, he will have a hard time making the case against the devils' spawn obama.
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Perry looks like he is not ready for this. Between the illegal alien crap, the ceonyism, he will have a hard time making the case against the devils' spawn obama.
Perry is the last great hope for the Republican party..they are becoming way too extreme...Perry has got to run as a moderate and bring the party back to sanity
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Perry is the last great hope for the Republican party..they are becoming way too extreme...Perry has got to run as a moderate and bring the party back to sanity
Earth to andre - most people don't agree w coddling illegals.
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Earth to andre - most people don't agree w coddling illegals.
not coddling at all...common sense.....you can't have a bunch of illegals sitting around doing nothing and getting in trouble...better to do things to get their asses in school or working so they don't start trouble..
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not coddling at all...common sense.....you can't have a bunch of illegals sitting around doing nothing and getting in trouble...better to do things to get their asses in school or working so they don't start trouble..
Why not kick them out and give the jobs they have to blacks who are hurt the most by our crazy policies?
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Why not kick them out and give the jobs they have to blacks who are hurt the most by our crazy policies?
look at 3333..all of a sudden you're a social worker and care about blacks???...LOL......kicking them out would maybe cost a lot more money in enforcement, court costs, over time, etc......