THE OFFICIAL RICK PERRY ELECTION THREAD

[andreisdaman]

Maybe they know Obama will probably win, ,as the inccumbent, and are waiting 4 more years...

Which Republicans Aren't Running - But SHOULD be Running?

THe top 2 repubs right now are one RINO (Romneycare) and one former democrat (HPV, DREAM act, corruption, and worked to make Al Gore President).

The next tiers on the ladder are Bachmann (who is a weird compulsive liar), Ron Paul (who is too old), Newt (brilliant but an idiot on common sense), and a few others who aren't going to win the nomination.

Now, I'm no Palin fan, but she would be destroying this weak crop of candidates.  Jeb would be cruising right now.  Even a lean Christie would be the only consistent one in this group.  Or Paul Ryan.  Or Cantor.  

Why is it that there are only the 2nd-Tier candidates running?   Why isn't Hutchison, Rudy, or Huck running?  Is it that tough to beat an incumbent?  I think a Republican Debate with Paul Ryan, Jeb, Palin, Rudy, Huck, Christie, Kay Bailey Hutchison would be STELLAR - And I suspect we'll see most of them in 2016.  

Why not now?

good post....I would vote for Jeb over Obama if he ran.....and what does it say about these bunch of losers if Palin could beat them>?..she's an idiot and makes people cringe

Jeb Bush however would have been an awesome candidate

[240 is Back]

Obama is gone 240 - get over it.   

lol at you bringing obama into a perry thread

[andreisdaman]

Obama is gone 240 - get over it.   

NOT YET....

Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites

and he could still get elected

but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed

[Soul Crusher]

NOT YET....

Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites

and he could still get elected

but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed

Keep telling yourself that.   

[LurkerNoMore]

Perry is my least fav so far.  i prefer Santorum over perry at this point. 

Bachmann and Romney turned Perry inside out at this last debate and exposed him as nothing more than an empty suit.

[OzmO]

Obama could easily get re-elected. 

All he has to do:

1.  Get gas to go down .50+
2.  Get UE to go down 1-2%

and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term. 

[George Whorewell]

Obama could easily get re-elected. 

All he has to do:

1.  Get gas to go down .50+
2.  Get UE to go down 1-2%

and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term. 

Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.

Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.

[240 is Back]

Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.

I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct.  professionals.

Ron paul or bachmann, probably not.  A little nutty, but manageable.

Perry - entirely possible.  Still figuring out where he stands on many issues.  His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling.   I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.

[George Whorewell]

NOT YET....

Obama is going to get 85% of black vote
65% of Hispanics
and only needs about 35% of whites

and he could still get elected

but that's only if the economy improves somewhat and he can claim that things are getting better..if not, then he's doomed

LMAOOOOOO-- You're a teacher who sucks at basic math. 85% of 10% of the country and 65% of 25% of the country and you somehow come to the conclusion that he only needs 35% of whites?

Put down the crackpipe Arnold. Come back to reality please. Whites make up 72% of the population. This isn't Uganda or El Salvador (although many liberals wish it was).

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Obama needs the majority of whites and clean sweeps with both black and hispanic voters. The only problem is that blacks historically turn out very low and the anti Obama tide is getting stronger as more and more people are coming to the realization that liberalism only benefits government employees and criminals.

[George Whorewell]

I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct.  professionals.

Ron paul or bachmann, probably not.  A little nutty, but manageable.

Perry - entirely possible.  Still figuring out where he stands on many issues.  His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling.   I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.

Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor. Mitt is a RINO if I ever saw one. Paul is a fringe lunatic to a lot of people and also has no shot of getting the nomination. Bachmann is too polarizing. Perry is also deeply flawed. Cain is my kind of nominee and so is Newt-- but both have no chance. But guess what? I don't give a shit who gets the nominee. My vote is in the bank. I would venture to say that 85-95% of registered Republicans feel exactly the same way.

Newt alluded to this during the debate. For the GOP and the nation as a whole, its US versus THEM. The worst we have to offer is better than the alternative.

Nobody is worse than Osama.

[240 is Back]

Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor.

In aug/sept 2007, four years ago, #1 was Rudy and #2 was Fred Thompson.   #3 and 4 were Mccain and Romney, I think.


My own belief is that Huntsmann - if not the PERFECT veep selection - is running as romney was in 2008.  Get in, end up in 3rd or 4th, and you're the dignified frontrunner in 2016.

I agree I will vote any repub over obama, even perry.   I just don't see him as automatically beatable.  We're in the middle of a second gret depression, even if FOX and MSNBC aren't telling us about it.  The fact obama still leads in some polls - in the middle of a dpression the partially caused - tells me his chances are good.

Plus he can start wars and allow attacks to garner support (bush did), he can paint the news/declare terror threats whenever he wants (bush did) and cheat in elections (yep).

Obama will cheat his ass off to stay in power.  Perry and Mitt won't have that kind of power to manipulate situations.

[OzmO]

Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.

Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.

I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation.  There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet. 

[George Whorewell]

I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation.  There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet. 

I disagree. The 2010 midterms were just the beginning. As I said above, I will vote for anyone except Obama no matter what. I truly believe most people feel that way except the truly deranged leftist slobs, public sector employee unions, blacks and Rosie O'Donald.

[Skip8282]

nothing wrong with forcing things down people's throats....sometimes the public doesn't know whats good for them and you have to force the issue...in terms of preventing thousands of women from contracting pussy cancer....I think this is one of those times when its warranted..I don't have a problem with it at all..Rick Perry should not have a problem with it either...because of him countless numbers of women and girls will be spared cancer

Well, that pretty much erases any doubt that you might not be a Marxist schmuck.  Tell me Lenin, is there anything else that you want to play god over?  

[OzmO]

Yep and our sons must die to perpetuate the growth of our economy while masked in the taking down of an evil dictator. 

[andreisdaman]

Bachmann and Romney turned Perry inside out at this last debate and exposed him as nothing more than an empty suit.

I don't think so....Perry is going through some bumps whichn is normal for a new candidate..the others are more experienced and have been on the trail longer....he'll learn quickly and come around......but I really think he is making a mistake by trying to cowtow to the tea party...he should position himself as a moderate Republican (which is what he is) and try to take the party back from the extremists

[andreisdaman]

Obama could easily get re-elected.  

All he has to do:

1.  Get gas to go down .50+
2.  Get UE to go down 1-2%

and then add that too this republican field of freaks and then you have a 2nd term.  

good post...this post is absolutely true..if the UE goes to 7% and gas goes down Obama can make the case that things are getting better and that he needs to stay in office to finish the job instead of trusting a republican who might very well bring things to a screeching halt due to new policies

[andreisdaman]

Fantasy. Won't happen and won't be enough in any event.

Outside of the Republican nominee self destructing ( which is possible) Obama will not get a second term.

I think Obama could conceivably win a second term but it will be tricky I agree....he would have to win pennsylvania again, as well as virginia and indiana and new mexico all of which is unlikely

[andreisdaman]

I don't think huntsmann or mitt would self destruct.  professionals.

Ron paul or bachmann, probably not.  A little nutty, but manageable.

Perry - entirely possible.  Still figuring out where he stands on many issues.  His answer on afghanistan "we need to bring our troops home, but it's important to keep a strong presence there" was baffling.   I don't think he's been told all his national Q answers yet.

I think he needs a little more experience...but hes foolish if he tries to run away from his record..its very hard for Governors to do that

[andreisdaman]

LMAOOOOOO-- You're a teacher who sucks at basic math. 85% of 10% of the country and 65% of 25% of the country and you somehow come to the conclusion that he only needs 35% of whites?

Put down the crackpipe Arnold. Come back to reality please. Whites make up 72% of the population. This isn't Uganda or El Salvador (although many liberals wish it was).

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Obama needs the majority of whites and clean sweeps with both black and hispanic voters. The only problem is that blacks historically turn out very low and the anti Obama tide is getting stronger as more and more people are coming to the realization that liberalism only benefits government employees and criminals.

you make a very good point here but you're forgetting that most of the white vote is worthless in the general election due to a lot of it being clustered in states where Obama won't win anyway....north and south Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, etc, etc, Obama only has to worry about the white vote in places like Pennsylvania, florida, Indiana, New Mexico, Virginia, etc

[andreisdaman]

Cuntsman has no shot of winning even 2% of the GOP vote. He is a non factor. Mitt is a RINO if I ever saw one. Paul is a fringe lunatic to a lot of people and also has no shot of getting the nomination. Bachmann is too polarizing. Perry is also deeply flawed. Cain is my kind of nominee and so is Newt-- but both have no chance. But guess what? I don't give a shit who gets the nominee. My vote is in the bank. I would venture to say that 85-95% of registered Republicans feel exactly the same way.

Newt alluded to this during the debate. For the GOP and the nation as a whole, its US versus THEM. The worst we have to offer is better than the alternative.

Nobody is worse than Osama.

LOL at "Cuntsman"....Perry could beat Obama because many conservative democrats can stomach him and vote for him without guilt..conservatives and the tea party would have no choice....your observations about the rest of the field is spot on

[OzmO]

good post...this post is absolutely true..if the UE goes to 7% and gas goes down Obama can make the case that things are getting better and that he needs to stay in office to finish the job instead of trusting a republican who night very well bring things to a screeching halt due to new policies

Yeah, I just don't think it's a slam dunk.  If the election were held today I think yes.  But a lot can happen in 1 year.  I hope he doesn't get reelected.  But there are many people who are just plain ignorant about what's going on and there are also many who will vote based on their situation and not their ideals this time around due to the high unemployment and under employment.  

[andreisdaman]

I would hope so, but we are 0-2 at the moment as a nation.  There's nothing the repubs are serving up right now that looks to unseat this puppet. 

agreed...this would have been the year for McCain to run again..with a better choice of a VP candidate

[andreisdaman]

Well, that pretty much erases any doubt that you might not be a Marxist schmuck.  Tell me Lenin, is there anything else that you want to play god over?  

are you saying that the government is wrong to make kids take vaccinations???...first of all

1. it is a publics health issue....if there is a vaccine to prevent girls and women from getting the HSV virus and preventing them from developing cancer, then you are saying that we should not give this to them>?,,the government makes our children take vaccinations all the time..why is this different?

2. It is shocking that Michele Bachmann, a woman, is not out front on this issue to make sure that women are protected against HSV

3.
It is also a fiscal issue as this spares the government from having to treat all the women who would otherwise develop cancer...thus making treatment very expensive.....

[Skip8282]

are you saying that the government is wrong to make kids take vaccinations???...first of all

1. it is a publics health issue....if there is a vaccine to prevent girls and women from getting the HSV virus and preventing them from developing cancer, then you are saying that we should not give this to them>?,,the government makes our children take vaccinations all the time..why is this different?

2. It is shocking that Michele Bachmann, a woman, is not out front on this issue to make sure that women are protected against HSV

3.
It is also a fiscal issue as this spares the government from having to treat all the women who would otherwise develop cancer...thus making treatment very expensive.....

The issue is that this should be decided by legislature, not the executive.  This is a clear abuse of power by an egotistical, self-righteous douchebag.

Also, where does it end?  Like a chickenshit little bitch you ran from 33's question about fat people.

For fat people:

1.  It's a public health issue
2.  It's shocking how many fat politicians there are
3.  It's a fiscal issue as it spares the government from having to treat...

Oh look, the same fucking argument you made.  What a shock.