Author Topic: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare  (Read 582 times)

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 08:01:00 AM »
this is what i've been saying all along. 

this is EXACTLY the reason why i haven't made a move towards the exchange for myself and my employees.  it may be a little cheaper on the exchange but there are still a lot of unknowns.  you can really screw someone up if you're not careful with what you choose. 

its all these internet liberals who choose only to believe what falls in line with how they voted instead of listening to REAL people who deal with this in REAL life. 

like i said before.  I have every right to be pissed off about being lied to and apprehensive about switching to the exchange.  if you're a small business owner and not worried you're not playing with a full deck.   

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 08:51:56 AM »
But but but but. Obama and his usual cabal of fools told me otherwise.

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 12:59:30 PM »

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2013, 06:58:34 AM »
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/hospital-of-tomorrow/articles/2013/10/30/top-hospitals-opt-out-of-obamacare


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HEHEHEHE!!!

Like the cowards that most democrats and libtards are they have avoided this thread.

Calling conservatives racist doesn't get you far in this argument.

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2013, 07:00:56 AM »
HEHEHEHE!!!

Like the cowards that most democrats and libtards are they have avoided this thread.

Calling conservatives racist doesn't get you far in this argument.

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 07:50:15 AM »
No, no, no.

You got it wrong, 3333.

It is not crapcare that is causing all of this.

It is the hospitals own fault.  The law is not forcing them to do this.

Nah, it's all on the hospitals. It is never the libtards' fault. It is always someone else's fault.

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2013, 07:50:56 AM »
The trouble is that liberals actually believe you can get something for nothing. You cannot add 30 million uninsured with huge tax subsides, expand mandates and reduce insurance competition and not add dramatically to health care costs. You simply cannot provide dramatically more care without more cost. Someone is going to have to pay for this expanded coverage and expanded mandates. Thus- it is impossible for the ACA to reduce health care costs

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 02:51:29 PM »
You can force people to buy healthcare so that millions without it aren't dying in the streets...but unfortunately you can't force hospitals to stop being racist. 
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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 08:42:37 AM »
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/994951f8-5e71-11e3-8621-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2mzqb2O00



Americans who are buying insurance plans over online exchanges, under what is known as Obamacare, will have limited access to some of the nation’s leading hospitals, including two world-renowned cancer centres.

Amid a drive by insurers to limit costs, the majority of insurance plans being sold on the new healthcare exchanges in New York, Texas, and California, for example, will not offer patients’ access to Memorial Sloan Kettering in Manhattan or MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, two top cancer centres, or Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, one of the top research and teaching hospitals in the country.

Experts say the move by insurers to it consumers’ choices steer them away from hospitals that are considered too expensive, or even “inefficient”, reflects the new competitive landscape in the insurance industry since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, Barack Obama’s 2010 healthcare law.

It could become another source of political controversy for the Obama administration next year, when the plans take effect. Frustrated consumers could then begin to realise what is not always evident when buying a product as complicated as healthcare insurance: that their new plans do not cover many facilities or doctors “in network”. In other words, the facilities and doctors are not among the list of approved providers in a certain plan.

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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 09:00:12 AM »
Option FAIL thinks this is all a lie

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/994951f8-5e71-11e3-8621-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2mzqb2O00



Americans who are buying insurance plans over online exchanges, under what is known as Obamacare, l have limited access to some of the nation’s leading hospitals, including two world-renowned cancer centres.

Amid a drive by insurers to limit costs, the majority of insurance plans being sold on the new healthcare exchanges in New York, Texas, and California, for example, l not offer patients’ access to Memorial Sloan Kettering in Manhattan or MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, two top cancer centres, or Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, one of the top research and teaching hospitals in the country.

Experts say the move by insurers to it consumers’ choices steer them away from hospitals that are considered too expensive, or even “inefficient”, reflects the new competitive landscape in the insurance industry since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, Barack Obama’s 2010 healthcare law.

It could become another source of political controversy for the Obama administration next year, when the plans take effect. Frustrated consumers could then begin to realise what is not always evident when buying a product as complicated as healthcare insurance: that their new plans do not cover many facilities or doctors “in network”. In other words, the facilities and doctors are not among the list of approved providers in a certain plan.


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Re: Top hospitals opting out of ObamaCare
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 09:14:48 AM »
The resident libs must be brainstorming, trying to think of a way to label the hospitals and doctors racist ;D