I say no to both, especially Stallone. Yea in Balboa his stomach was alot bigger than in Rocky 4, but the movie was filmed 20 years later, plus Stallone gained weight purposely for this movie in Rocky 4, Stallone weighed around 185 and in Rocky Balboa he said he weighed around 210. I was an extra in Balboa and I gotta say Stallone looked incredible up close in the fight scenes, especially for being 61. Plus now that he's done filming Rambo, he is bringing his weight back down, so soon he won't look bloated anymore.