Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)

[bhank]

hi Brian...

I am not taking any oral medications

[joswift]

I am not taking any oral medications

That probably means you are shoving them up your arse

Or maybe swallowing them with Gatorade

Its all semantics with you fuckface

[a_pupil]

I am not taking any oral medications

What happened to the bio-identical anavar from your trt doctor lol?

[oldtimer1]

First question is there any pharmaceutical manufacturer making Anadrol 50 in the US?  If there isn't where are you getting Anadrol from? Do you trust the stuff you are buying from the trunk of a car is the same as the when it was made in the US?

[a_pupil]

First question is there any pharmaceutical manufacturer making Anadrol 50 in the US?  If there isn't where are you getting Anadrol from? Do you trust the stuff you are buying from the trunk of a car is the same as the when it was made in the US?

Lol Van Bilderass is going to smoke you again.

But with Anadrol, there's still (as far as I know, but I haven't juiced for a long time) A-grade Turkish pharma anadrol. And there was also Iranian and Thai pharmacy grade stuff as well.

[Dalnet]

I did it back in the day. It's pretty weak unless it's your first cycle.

30 mg dbol or winstrol is much better IMO.

Winny only was my first cycle and I couldn't believe how good the results were. It was magic. Looking back, (obviously) it wasn't the ideal first cycle but psychologically enabled me to appreciate the power of gear.

[a_pupil]

Winny only was my first cycle and I couldn't believe how good the results were. It was magic. Looking back, (obviously) it wasn't the ideal first cycle but psychologically enabled me to appreciate the power of gear.

Those were common cycles in the gyms back in the day, and guys would mutate by the end of the cycle.

Only online people say that injectables are a must. Maybe for competitive bodybuilders, but for gym bros, absolutely not.

[Dalnet]

Those were common cycles in the gyms back in the day, and guys would mutate by the end of the cycle.

Only online people say that injectables are a must. Maybe for competitive bodybuilders, but for gym bros, absolutely not.

That's the reason i chose tabs, instead. At that age, the idea of needles wasn't my thing. Doing orals made me appreciate maybe IM pins are worth the jab.

[robcguns]

Small doses are great.

I got great results of dbol 5-10mgs
Anavar 10 mgs
Android 25mgs

And as said mattc omit great results off 12.5-25mgs.

People think you need huge doses but you don’t. Hard work and low dose is the way to go.

[Van_Bilderass]

First question is there any pharmaceutical manufacturer making Anadrol 50 in the US?  If there isn't where are you getting Anadrol from? Do you trust the stuff you are buying from the trunk of a car is the same as the when it was made in the US?

You never learn. But I'm not going to rehash it lol. However there is American made Anadrol. From wiki

"Oxymetholone is one of the few AAS that remains available for medical use in the United States.[26] "

Some bodybuilders have aquired brand name US Anadrol or Anavar (Oxandrin) but don't bother with it because it's like 10 times as expensive. But some have understandably curious about the mythical US Anadrol, I think there was some type of serial number following the name also. No one has said they are any better than the "other" stuff, but sure, if you're wealthy you might want to flash your brand name Anadrol to your poor friends, "take a look at this, 10 times as potent!" Lol.

"The cost for Anadrol-50 oral tablet 50 mg is around $4,443 for a supply of 100 tablets, depending on the pharmacy you visit."

"The cost for oxandrolone oral tablet 2.5 mg is around $480 for a supply of 100 tablets, depending on the pharmacy you visit. "

4.5K for a 100 Anadrol? Can that quote even be correct? Lol. Anavar on the black market is like maybe $100? And it comes in 10mg tabs, 4 times more, sometimes even 50mg tabs so do the math.

You can also get generic Anadrol from HRT clinics in the US, from compounding pharmacies. But would you trust it, when it likely comes from you know where...

[Van_Bilderass]

Those were common cycles in the gyms back in the day, and guys would mutate by the end of the cycle.

Only online people say that injectables are a must. Maybe for competitive bodybuilders, but for gym bros, absolutely not.

Yeah there's nothing that says you have to do injectables. Dianabol is probably the most logical choice for an oral only cycle.
If you want to max out your AAS for the biggest response you can't do it with just orals because the orals would be too toxic, so you logically go with testosterone. You don't necessarily even need anyything else apart from test like in the off season, just test, gh and insulin. Like my friend does 2500mg-3000mg of just test. Physiological, "bioidentical" nontoxic. Maybe he throws in a ml of Deca a week "for the joints."

[Humble Narcissist]

No need for orals unless you’re competing, and then only for a short period of time.

Much better if you hate needles.

[honest]

Real issues for Orals besides liver toxicity, is that they usually reduce your HDL to 0, I and others believe it is this type of environment  promotes premature hardening of the arteries and why so many guys die young, its one of the main reasons with my injectable TRT I never high dose and always check my bloodwork every three months, my HDL starts dropping above TRT dosages.  Just a theory, but guys like Mattarazzo loved anapolan and high dose test or androgens, appreciate he might have had a genetic disposition to heart disease but no doubt his use brought his issues forward.   Just an opinion nothing more

[dj181]

Those were common cycles in the gyms back in the day, and guys would mutate by the end of the cycle.

Only online people say that injectables are a must. Maybe for competitive bodybuilders, but for gym bros, absolutely not.

"they" say you need test "as a base" in order to make the cycle more "healthy"

without a test base you will crash your estrogen and be less "healthy"

like all this is done for one's health

[stallonanegger]

One thing I learnt recently, pretty sure it was from Patrick Arnold and he said never take oral steroids with any NSAIDs as it can really fuck you up causes internal bleeding and few other problems that could put you in hospital etc. Has anyone ever done no test cycles? As surely the drugs you run are replacing the test so it doesnt matter aslong as you have a bit of androgens with the anabolics no?

[dj181]

One thing I learnt recently, pretty sure it was from Patrick Arnold and he said never take oral steroids with any NSAIDs as it can really fuck you up causes internal bleeding and few other problems that could put you in hospital etc. Has anyone ever done no test cycles? As surely the drugs you run are replacing the test so it doesnt matter aslong as you have a bit of androgens with the anabolics no?

according to more plates more dates you need an estrogen base within your cycle and this base can come from test or dbol

others say the estrogen from dbol isn't bio-idenitcal estrogen so it's not good enough, and you can only get the correct estrogen from test

[stallonanegger]

according to more plates more dates you need an estrogen base within your cycle and this base can come from test or dbol

others say the estrogen from dbol isn't bio-idenitcal estrogen so it's not good enough, and you can only get the correct estrogen from test

Doesnt dbol produce "super estrogen though? Methlyestridol or whatever? Surely that would be good enough.

[stallonanegger]

according to more plates more dates you need an estrogen base within your cycle and this base can come from test or dbol

others say the estrogen from dbol isn't bio-idenitcal estrogen so it's not good enough, and you can only get the correct estrogen from test

Also mpmd looks like shit , id never listen to anything he regurgates from a study.

[dj181]

Doesnt dbol produce "super estrogen though? Methlyestridol or whatever? Surely that would be good enough.

that's what they did in the 70s stacking dbol with primo or deca

these "experts" say your estro should be in the optimum range which i think is somewhere btw 40-80 but don't quote me on that

dr. todd lee likes to keep his estro at 80 as he said it gives the best igf production from his gh

these guys have this shit down to a science these days with getting all their bloods "pulled" on the regular and measuring precisely how many macros of everything is in every single serving of food they eat

funny thing is guys in the 70s and 80s looked much better than these guys do even though they all weigh 250+ nowadays

[stallonanegger]

that's what they did in the 70s stacking dbol with primo or deca

these "experts" say your estro should be in the optimum range which i think is somewhere btw 40-80 but don't quote me on that

dr. todd lee likes to keep his estro at 80 as he said it gives the best igf production from his gh

these guys have this shit down to a science these days with getting all their bloods "pulled" on the regular and measuring precisely how many macros of everything is in every single serving of food they eat

funny thing is guys in the 70s and 80s looked much better than these guys do even though they all weigh 250+ nowadays

Yeah its all about weight now. You arent big unless youre 280+ at 5 foot . The only change from then to 90s onwards was the addition of tren hgh and slin right and chasing the scale numbers. They all need cpap machines to breathe at night aswell, which to me is the point where its too much mass, youre basically disabled.

[benchmstr]

I did 25mg anadrol preworkout only for years on a 4 day split..never had a negative effect on bloodwork. Helped, but now that I’m older and less stupid I would never do it again.

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[stallonanegger]

I did 25mg anadrol preworkout only for years on a 4 day split..never had a negative effect on bloodwork. Helped, but now that I’m older and less stupid I would never do it again.

Bench

Best preworkout ive ever done is injectable tren base with halo, holy moly but id kill someone if I did that now . 

[benchmstr]

Best preworkout ive ever done is injectable tren base with halo, holy moly but id kill someone if I did that now .

I used to do 1/4ml tren suspension, 1/2ml test suspension and 1ml of injectable L-carnitine preworkout..in my head they were always great workouts..in hindsight I missed a lot of lifts because I was too amped up.

Just do test, HCG, metformin, and injectable L-carnitine now

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[gib]

Do you really think the metformin, and injectable L-carnitine works? Or is that more bro science?

[benchmstr]

Do you really think the metformin, and injectable L-carnitine works? Or is that more bro science?

I have an extreme noticeable endurance gain with L-carnitine, and my free test is substantially higher when I use it.

The metformin I take for health reasons above all else. The anti cancer benefits are too hard to ignore for how cheap it is.

Same with cialis..I take 5mg a day and never had ED problems..but a 40%-60% decrease in all cardiac events is hard to ignore for such a cheap drug.

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