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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Method101 on April 13, 2009, 10:19:31 AM
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I went on diet for a week but lost all movitation now because i don't have that much bodyfat to lose, maybe 10lbs to get down to "abs" level. I just stopped the diet because i think i'd rather get stronger than waste this time losing that 10lbs to be cut.
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I went on diet for a week but lost all movitation now because i don't have that much bodyfat to lose, maybe 10lbs to get down to "abs" level. I just stopped the diet because i think i'd rather get stronger than waste this time losing that 10lbs to be cut.
do it slowly, there is no reason why you can't lose bodyfat and get stronger at the same time :)
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do it slowly, there is no reason why you can't lose bodyfat and get stronger at the same time :)
you cant
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When you have to hold you breath to tie your shoes.
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you cant
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When you have to hold you breath to tie your shoes.
The classic Sign ;D
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When the waistband of your underwear folds over when you sit down.
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When the waistband of your underwear folds over when you sit down.
LOL!!!!
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When you have to use the mirror to see your penis :'(
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When you have to use the mirror to see your penis :'(
do you people ever stop insulting Keith Jones?
;D
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Interesting question.
Dan Duchaine use to mention once you got out of 10-12% bf. range, it was time to drop weight. His reasoning was that even a fit big guy at a bit higher percentage will look like a lump of crap at those percentages.
I think you can go a bit higher than that(I had my best size/strength gains in the 14-16% range), but I think it right not to perma-bulk in most cases, dieting simply eats everything away.
The one case I think It is warrented is if you want to get your strongest naturally, 99% of the really strong natural powerlifters I've seen had to let themselves become messes at 1 point to get there.
In your case, I'd simply run at a 500 cal. def. for a few weeks.
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do you people ever stop insulting Keith Jones?
;D
Who???
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Impossible; weight loss and muscle gain are completely different antagonistc metabolic processes. In order to gain new mass you HAVE to have an ever so slight caloric surplus; in order to get lean you need to HAVE an ever so slight caloric deficit. Maybe he was talking about chemically enhanced people; he talks about 1500 calories a day and gaining muscle? Who does that?
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Impossible; weight loss and muscle gain are completely different antagonistc metabolic processes. In order to gain new mass you HAVE to have an ever so slight caloric surplus; in order to get lean you need to HAVE an ever so slight caloric deficit. Maybe he was talking about chemically enhanced people; he talks about 1500 calories a day and gaining muscle? Who does that?
you have to be in a calorie surplus to gain fat
calorie deficit to lose fat
don't get them mixed up, gaining muscle is a matter of how hard you work out not how much you eat.
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Protein builds muscle,not calories.
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you cant
you can also lose fat and build muscle.
FACT
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you can also lose fat and build muscle.
FACT
See Kevin Levrone...
Growing into a contest
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When someone drives by and yells, "STEROIDS!!!" only to stop, back up, and explain, "That wasn't an accusation; it was a suggestion."
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Protein builds muscle,not calories.
As far as I know though, a positive nitrogen balance is required which can only be brought about by a caloric surplus.
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See Kevin Levrone...
Growing into a contest
Naturally, meinte er.
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okay j grey
lol
this guy is an idiot, i didnt even watch this video, you posted his dumb videos before. "love your body" what a jackass...ahahah
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Cutting down = no libido, no strength, hungry all day = not worth it
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Protein builds muscle,not calories.
protein doesnt build muscle
protein is used in the muscle building process.
lifting weights signals muscle growth. hormones signal muscle growth. eating excess calories can signal muscle growth.
protein alone doesnt signal muscle growth. (to a small extent a high leucine and fast digesting protein like whey will boost nitrogen retention a bit, albeit)
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I went on diet for a week but lost all movitation now because i don't have that much bodyfat to lose, maybe 10lbs to get down to "abs" level. I just stopped the diet because i think i'd rather get stronger than waste this time losing that 10lbs to be cut.
drink beer, dont try to lose WEIGHT thats the WORST WAY
start by improving your HDL to LDL
if u think u are having too much beer go for chocolate for energy
drink plenty of grapejuice during workouts
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It's very possible to get stronger and lose fat. It's VERY HARD to lose fat and gain muscle. Strength and muscle growth are two different things and are not always part and parcel to one another.
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protein doesnt build muscle
protein is used in the muscle building process.
lifting weights signals muscle growth. hormones signal muscle growth. eating excess calories can signal muscle growth.
protein alone doesnt signal muscle growth. (to a small extent a high leucine and fast digesting protein like whey will boost nitrogen retention a bit, albeit)
eating high protien works to a point on a diet, then it doesnt then things go in reverse
best to eat lowish protien but more chocolate not fat free chocolate either
when ur bodys burning fat it needs to be recoated with fat internally, it wont result in fat externally as long as u r consistent
u dont want to fuck up your hdl and ldl by severe fat restricting diet this will cause even more bad ldl buildup 'naturally' made by the body
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I went on diet for a week but lost all movitation now because i don't have that much bodyfat to lose, maybe 10lbs to get down to "abs" level. I just stopped the diet because i think i'd rather get stronger than waste this time losing that 10lbs to be cut.
Keep on eating lots of protein and dont be afraid to lose that 10lbs.
You will look small at that time. But when you come back to your current weight, you will have decent body with"abs".
Once you dry out, you wont gain fat if you eat lots of quality calories which is consist of good amont of protein.
Here,todays pic is around 9lbs more than the contest weight. I am softer but still look good(and even without pump).
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Keep on eating lots of protein and dont be afraid to lose that 10lbs.
You will look small at that time. But when you come back to your current weight, you will have decent body with"abs".
Once you dry out, you wont gain fat if you eat lots of quality calories which is consist of good amont of protein.
Here,todays pic is around 9lbs more than the contest weight. I am softer but still look good(and even without pump).
youd be better with more beer and chocolate
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I have plenty of beer and chocolate but I just can't seem to get ripped.
(http://worldrecords.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fat-man.png)
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youd be better with more beer and chocolate
Is this the TA principle?
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when you huff and puff, as you climb a flight of stairs.......like i do.
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protein doesnt build muscle
protein is used in the muscle building process.
lifting weights signals muscle growth. hormones signal muscle growth. eating excess calories can signal muscle growth.
protein alone doesnt signal muscle growth. (to a small extent a high leucine and fast digesting protein like whey will boost nitrogen retention a bit, albeit)
Ok since you want to be a know it all smart ass cortisol actually is the hormone responsible for STIMULATING muslce growth and repair.
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I have plenty of beer and chocolate but I just can't seem to get ripped.
(http://worldrecords.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fat-man.png)
Holy shit...he is even fatter than I am!........ :o :o :o
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I have plenty of beer and chocolate but I just can't seem to get ripped.
(http://worldrecords.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fat-man.png)
I wonder how can he be like this?
The first of all, how can he go to bath room?
And he doesnt look enough rich to have maid or some helpers.
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I wonder how can he be like this?
The first of all, how can he go to bath room?
And he doesnt look enough rich to have maid or some helpers.
It would be a miserable existence. I imagine this pic is probably "photoshopped," of course, but someone this big would have to have a choice spirit to maintain a positive outlook.
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I wonder how can he be like this?
The first of all, how can he go to bath room?
And he doesnt look enough rich to have maid or some helpers.
I think he just does cagar on himself; he is Mexican and I think he died maybe, saw some report on it.
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I think he just does cagar on himself; he is Mexican and I think he died maybe, saw some report on it.
Oh really? died?
Just very strange that nobody could stop or he couldnt stop it(cus he cant even cook, somebody should cook food for him).
Nobody can get this fat in one day.
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unhealthy cholesterol plays a key role in fatloss
if we start with a high protien low fat moderate carb approach it will work to a point
then u can try beer to 'further that point' your bodyweight may drop alot by this point from when u started high protien low fat maybe 10-18 pounds then again it may not, u may simply just look more ripped at this point but progress slows and workouts suffer because u lack cholesterol from dietary fats
then u hit a platueu
thats when u need to change the diet totally to something like 40-60 percent fatcalories (think chocolate , it tastes good and its garanteed energy) and INCREASE calories because u will be gaining muscle at this point and u will be repairing your body, drop the protien at this point, u may gain GOOD weight at this point and look fuller more ripped
thats kinda the phase where im at with my diet currently
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Oh really? died?
Just very strange that nobody could stop or he couldnt stop it(cus he cant even cook, somebody should cook food for him).
Nobody can get this fat in one day.
While I am critical of most people who never exercise saying they "can't help" being fat, I can only guess that someone like this gentleman must have serious medical causes for this level of obesity. Most people, in my opinion, couldn't get this fat even if they made a conscious effort to do so.
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While I am critical of most people who never exercise saying they "can't help" being fat, I can only guess that someone like this gentleman must have serious medical causes for this level of obesity. Most people, in my opinion, couldn't get this fat even if they made a conscious effort to do so.
Yeah, I agreed.
But I am refering about the enviromental situation only.
Maybe gradualy he became fat like this.
So,in other word, he needed somebodys "help" to look like this.
Thats why ifelt strange.
Get it?
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While I am critical of most people who never exercise saying they "can't help" being fat, I can only guess that someone like this gentleman must have serious medical causes for this level of obesity. Most people, in my opinion, couldn't get this fat even if they made a conscious effort to do so.
Hey! >:(
This is getbig, fat people are always at fault and are all arseholes, ok? ;D
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I think he's alive and "well"? I saw a documentary on him not even a few months ago. He even got married! The woman is probably only 20-30 lbs overweight. He must have money to be able to sit at home, not work and afford to feed himself what it must have taken to get that big. He said he is even able to have sex with his wife since she moves his rolls aside lol. He basically just sits there, she bathes him on his bed, and he has some type of litter bag under his bed. On the rare occasion that he leaves home (ex. for his wedding) he is put on some sort of cart and carried around or attached to a vehicle. The documentary said he was dieting, and he even ate strict at his own wedding. He lost over a hundred lbs which still wasn't noticeable.
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I wonder how can he be like this?
The first of all, how can he go to bath room?
And he doesnt look enough rich to have maid or some helpers.
Its on the TLC channel. Somebody uses a big ass wet towel to wipe his fat ass and they literally have to dig to find his di*k so he can piss. Its funny they were trying to find a special diet to help him lose weight when the answer is easy. Stop feeding his fat ass until he can get up and get the food himself. He could easily survive 3 weeks without food and just water.
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I think he's alive and "well"? I saw a documentary on him not even a few months ago. He even got married! The woman is probably only 20-30 lbs overweight. He must have money to be able to sit at home, not work and afford to feed himself what it must have taken to get that big. He said he is even able to have sex with his wife since she moves his rolls aside lol. He basically just sits there, she bathes him on his bed, and he has some type of litter bag under his bed. On the rare occasion that he leaves home (ex. for his wedding) he is put on some sort of cart and carried around or attached to a vehicle. The documentary said he was dieting, and he even ate strict at his own wedding. He lost over a hundred lbs which still wasn't noticeable.
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I have plenty of beer and chocolate but I just can't seem to get ripped.
(http://worldrecords.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fat-man.png)
misery
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Its on the TLC channel. Somebody uses a big ass wet towel to wipe his fat ass and they literally have to dig to find his di*k so he can piss. Its funny they were trying to find a special diet to help him lose weight when the answer is easy. Stop feeding his fat ass until he can get up and get the food himself. He could easily survive 3 weeks without food and just water.
Exactly! Thats what I am saying! Seriously.
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When I get sleep apnea, heartburn, and when I get out of breath from going up a flight of stairs.
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When I get sleep apnea, heartburn, and when I get out of breath from going up a flight of stairs.
Aren't you lean and ripped?
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Aren't you lean and ripped?
I'm talking about when I was 272 back in Feb.
I'm much leaner but not lean and ripped......YET.
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I'm talking about when I was 272 back in Feb.
I'm much leaner but not lean and ripped......YET.
272...damn. How tall are you?
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272...damn. How tall are you?
69.5 inches
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69.5 inches
Wie bitte? ???
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Wie bitte? ???
Five feet nine and a half.
or 176.5 cm
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Five feet nine and a half.
or 176.5 cm
Ah....but that means at 272...that is kind of obese, no?
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haha manuel uribe.
that documentary was on tv and just over a minute ago.
yep he got married to a slightly overweight mexican woman.
her previous husband was 440lbs. he died
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Ok since you want to be a know it all smart ass cortisol actually is the hormone responsible for STIMULATING muslce growth and repair.
i was just bitch slapping wes, since he is always thinking his old age allows him to mouth off like punk without any repercussion
you think cortisol is responsible for muscle growth? how do you explain muscle growth on steroids(which effectivly eliminate cortisol)?
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Yeah, I agreed.
But I am refering about the enviromental situation only.
Maybe gradualy he became fat like this.
So,in other word, he needed somebodys "help" to look like this.
Thats why ifelt strange.
Get it?
Like he had an "enabler" of sorts. A very real possibility.
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Hey! >:(
This is getbig, fat people are always at fault and are all arseholes, ok? ;D
Their lack of willpower is sickening, according to GetBig doctrinal statement #1174.
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Their lack of willpower is sickening, according to GetBig doctrinal statement #1174.
That phrase is copyright Goatboy and I
you forgot the TM
Thanks :D
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That phrase is copyright Goatboy and I
you forgot the TM
Thanks :D
i do believe that the phrase had a huge long thread based on it looonnngggggg before you ever made a single post
it belongs to the homo named goatboy
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That phrase is copyright Goatboy and I
you forgot the TM
Thanks :D
Jesus, you have an insane post per day rate.... :o
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When I get sleep apnea, heartburn, and when I get out of breath from going up a flight of stairs.
Ive got sleep apnea. LOVE my CPAP!
jason
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That phrase is copyright Goatboy and I
you forgot the TM
Thanks :D
I apologize for the inadvertent plagiarism. I thought that by providing the doctrinal statement number, the copyright acknowledgement was implied. I will include the trademark from now on.
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I'm talking about when I was 272 back in Feb.
I'm much leaner but not lean and ripped......YET.
5'9" and 272 is very heavy...and you're saying you're "much leaner" now in only two additional months? And implying you're close to being ripped? You must be huge :) Got a picture?
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he said 'yet'
meaning it was a goal
he never claimed it
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he said 'yet'
meaning it was a goal
he never claimed it
Dia dhuit!
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he said 'yet'
meaning it was a goal
he never claimed it
Instead of arguing semantics I'll just wait for Wiggs to comment - 5'9" and 272 lbs (or even 240/250) is very muscular unless you're quite fat.
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I don't think Wigg's juiced so I guess he was just pretty overweight.
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he admits he is not Ironman contender
He carries some fat but also has mass
haha my irish is crap deicide...done it for 1 year at school
what weight and height are you big bobs?
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What's your target weight ripped, Wiggs?
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What's your target weight ripped, Wiggs?
Amazingly I realised just how fat I am today.... :-\
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Amazingly I realised just how fat I am today.... :-\
aww don't be to hard on yourself. :D
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aww don't be to hard on yourself. :D
I mean, I am dieting but realised how LONG I have to go... :-\ I think I will need months and months... :-\
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Thank you for clearing things up Ursus. Babbu read what he wanted to read.
I have juiced in the past about 5-6, 12 week cycles under my belt over the past 10 years.
When you are a fatass, you don't realize how fat you were until you lose it. I was OBESE. Prior to Dec I hadn't worked out since Jun 07.
I'm guessing I was at around 26-28% bf. A change from earlier numbers.
Right now, I'm around 20-22% till last week everything I was doing was natural. Now I've added ECA, t-3 and clen.
I'm actually going more for a target look but having to put a number on it now. 200-205 and 8-10% bf will be my permanent target. I won't blow up anymore after this. Too unhealthy.
Here are some pics from last years O at that weight.
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I mean, I am dieting but realised how LONG I have to go... :-\ I think I will need months and months... :-\
How much cardio are you doing a day. I think you should be doing an hour at least with another hour of weight training. Separate the two from weight training in the morning then the cardio in the evening.
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no probs dude
he was clearly trying to start a BS claim abt you mate when he is clearly the wrong side of 20% b/f himself
look big there btw dude
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How much cardio are you doing a day. I think you should be doing an hour at least with another hour of weight training. Separate the two from weight training in the morning then the cardio in the evening.
I do HIIT 3 times a week and I NEVER do cardio on the same day as weights; based on experience never a good thing for me.
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Thank you for clearing things up Ursus. Babbu read what he wanted to read.
I have juiced in the past about 5-6, 12 week cycles under my belt over the past 10 years.
When you are a fatass, you don't realize how fat you were until you lose it. I was OBESE. Prior to Dec I hadn't worked out since Jun 07.
I'm guessing I was at around 26-28% bf. A change from earlier numbers.
Right now, I'm around 20-22% till last week everything I was doing was natural. Now I've added ECA, t-3 and clen.
I'm actually going more for a target look but having to put a number on it now. 200-205 and 8-10% bf will be my permanent target. I won't blow up anymore after this. Too unhealthy.
Here are some pics from last years O at that weight.
WTF? T-3, why the fuck do you need that just to drop weight?! Seriously man... :-\
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Thank you for clearing things up Ursus. Babbu read what he wanted to read.
I have juiced in the past about 5-6, 12 week cycles under my belt over the past 10 years.
When you are a fatass, you don't realize how fat you were until you lose it. I was OBESE. Prior to Dec I hadn't worked out since Jun 07.
I'm guessing I was at around 26-28% bf. A change from earlier numbers.
Right now, I'm around 20-22% till last week everything I was doing was natural. Now I've added ECA, t-3 and clen.
I'm actually going more for a target look but having to put a number on it now. 200-205 and 8-10% bf will be my permanent target. I won't blow up anymore after this. Too unhealthy.
Here are some pics from last years O at that weight.
BTW, I agree about not realising...well I kind of am now; I mean I see how much love handle I have and think, fuck that will take forever to get rid of.
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WTF? T-3, why the fuck do you need that just to drop weight?! Seriously man... :-\
Because I want to rev things up. I've used it in the past with great results...I'm also using 100mg of Winny tabs per day to prevent muscle loss.
t-3 is good s h i t as long as you use it right. I'm not using it for any other purpose other than what it's supposed to be used for...OBESITY.
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Because I want to rev things up. I've used it in the past with great results...I'm also using 100mg of Winny tabs per day to prevent muscle loss.
t-3 is good s h i t as long as you use it right. I'm not using it for any other purpose other than what it's supposed to be used for...OBESITY.
I would of never guessed you ever used steroids. lol I'm fking with you man.
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Because I want to rev things up. I've used it in the past with great results...I'm also using 100mg of Winny tabs per day to prevent muscle loss.
t-3 is good s h i t as long as you use it right. I'm not using it for any other purpose other than what it's supposed to be used for...OBESITY.
Dude...
T-3 is SUPPOSED to be used by people with thyroid gland problems but it's your life. Fair enough.
You know how bad winny is for your HDL, make your to get it checked every now and then.
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i was just bitch slapping wes, since he is always thinking his old age allows him to mouth off like punk without any repercussion
Dude,you`re laughable!!
All your posts sound like something right out of a textbook!
I hardly think my post was "mouthing off".
::)
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Dude...
T-3 is SUPPOSED to be used by people with thyroid gland problems but it's your life. Fair enough.
You know how bad winny is for your HDL, make your to get it checked every now and then.
Yes, I had bloodwork done before I started and I have a blood pressure monitor at home.
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Yes, I had bloodwork done before I started and I have a blood pressure monitor at home.
Good stuff, how about some testo proprionate and primobolan? Good for cutting or so I have heard.
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Good stuff, how about some testo proprionate and primobolan? Good for cutting or so I have heard.
I'm done with actual cycles. It was fun but I'm going for the Dr. Manhattan look now ;D
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I'm done with actual cycles. It was fun but I'm going for the Dr. Manhattan look now ;D
If you're gonna juice, might as well do it right... ;D
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If you're gonna juice, might as well do it right... ;D
If I can look close to this, I would be a very, very happy man. Perfect.
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Wiggs are you related to jay cutler? Not a single vain on your forearms ;D
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Wiggs are you related to jay cutler? Not a single vain on your forearms ;D
Wiggs = 26-28% bf
Jay = 4-5% bf
;D
But I will say even when lean I never was cover in veins.
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Wiggs = 26-28% bf
Jay = 4-5% bf
;D
But I will say even when lean I never was cover in veins.
you got lots of work ahead of you...But go for it....
It can be done...
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do you really need to use all those drugs, ECA, clen, T3 at once?
It's overkill, i can understand the winny
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do you really need to use all those drugs, ECA, clen, T3 at once?
It's overkill, i can understand the winny
Hell yes! All drugs! If you aint cheatin' you aint tryin'.
Overkill is being dead ;D
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If I can look close to this, I would be a very, very happy man. Perfect.
Nubret claims to be a lifetime natural! LOL!!!!!!!
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Thank you for clearing things up Ursus. Babbu read what he wanted to read.
I have juiced in the past about 5-6, 12 week cycles under my belt over the past 10 years.
When you are a fatass, you don't realize how fat you were until you lose it. I was OBESE. Prior to Dec I hadn't worked out since Jun 07.
I'm guessing I was at around 26-28% bf. A change from earlier numbers.
Right now, I'm around 20-22% till last week everything I was doing was natural. Now I've added ECA, t-3 and clen.
I'm actually going more for a target look but having to put a number on it now. 200-205 and 8-10% bf will be my permanent target. I won't blow up anymore after this. Too unhealthy.
Here are some pics from last years O at that weight.
I'll give you props on your honesty in this post. What got me questioning is that you first said 272 and then added that in just two months you're "much leaner." I imagine in two months you can't have lost much more than 20 lbs if that?
no probs dude
he was clearly trying to start a BS claim abt you mate when he is clearly the wrong side of 20% b/f himself
look big there btw dude
wohoa "ursus" is getting a little sensitive! ::) Sorry for questioning your "mate" lol. And what makes you say I'm "clearly on the wrong side of 20%" ::)
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If I can look close to this, I would be a very, very happy man. Perfect.
You're halfway there as you already have the colour part nailed down ;D
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I went on diet for a week but lost all movitation now because i don't have that much bodyfat to lose, maybe 10lbs to get down to "abs" level. I just stopped the diet because i think i'd rather get stronger than waste this time losing that 10lbs to be cut.
I've gained 30lbs since my surgeries, and just started to diet too.
took off 10 pds in 3 days just eating salads and sardines.
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WTF is his thread about?
I thought everyone was sub 6% on here. ::)