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In telling the truth is sickening!!!!
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The truth about what?
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The truth about what?
About Chad Mowers affair with Jodilicious
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Aaaahhahahahahahahahahah ahahahah....pot meet kettle. FUCK your any IDIOT...hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahah!!!
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Aaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah....pot meet kettle. FUCK your any IDIOT...hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahah!!!
Trax Palin look alike. Please take your meds.
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They need to understand that this country can't just take verbal attacks, dismissals of issues, and fear mongering anymore.. Had they run on issues, McCain would be beating Obama.
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They need to understand that this country can't just take verbal attacks, dismissals of issues, and fear mongering anymore.. Had they run on issues, McCain would be beating Obama.
Wrong.
Mccain`s solutions to the issues flat out suck. They also DO NOT resonate nor benefit the majority of Americans. Americans are realizing this and the tide of the election reflects it.
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They need to understand that this country can't just take verbal attacks, dismissals of issues, and fear mongering anymore.. Had they run on issues, McCain would be beating Obama.
I disagree. McCain voted with bush 90% of the time and bragged about it. How could he win on any issues with that record? Their ONLY attack was fear mongering.
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Admittedly McCain could have explained his positions better, even though all of his plans on his issues are far superior, he didn't get his point across like he should. Wether you want to believe it or not, the majority of the people do not want a socialist government. Obama will get us bombed and tax the f**k out of us at the same time. The lib press won't bother to ask him how he's going to get the money for his TRILLION dollar spending spree. Doesn't matter if your making $250000 or $25000, your going to get hit. Commonsense 101.
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Fear mongering is not pointing out his associations with a terrorist Bill Ayers, a racist Jeremiah Wright, a scandal w/ Rezco, and his support of Odinga the Kenyan leader who wants Kenya to be a Muslim theocracy and is using murder to get there.
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -Obama , The Audacity of Hope
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Fear mongering is not pointing out his associations with a terrorist Bill Ayers, a racist Jeremiah Wright, a scandal w/ Rezco, and his support of Odinga the Kenyan leader who wants Kenya to be a Muslim theocracy and is using murder to get there.
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -Obama , The Audacity of Hope
THE TRUTH
FULL QUOTE From Dreams From My Father:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
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From Dreams From My Father: ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’
THE TRUTH
Nothing close to this quote appears in Dreams from My Father.
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‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’
THE TRUTH
FULL QUOTE From Dreams From My Father:
He offered to start me off at ten thousand dollars the first year, with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car; the salary would go up if things worked out. After he was gone, I took the long way home, along the East River promenade, and tried to figure out what to make of the man. He was smart, I decided. He seemed committed to his work. Still, there was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white—he’d said himself that that was a problem. [Page 142]
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‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’
THE TRUTH
FULL QUOTE From Dreams From My Father:
All my life, I had carried a single image of my father, one that I had sometimes rebelled against but had never questioned, one that I had later tried to take as my own. The brilliant scholar, the generous friend, the upstanding leader—my father had been all those things. All those things and more, because except for that one brief visit in Hawaii, he had never been present to foil the image, because I hadn’t seen what perhaps most men see at some point in their lives: their father’s body shrinking, their father’s best hopes dashed, their father’s face lined with grief and regret.
Yes, I’d seen weakness in other men—Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later I saw that the black men I knew—Frank or Ray or Will or Rafiq—fell short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own—my father’s voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people’s struggle. Wake up, black man!
Now, as I sat in the glow of a single light bulb, rocking slightly on a hard-backed chair, that image had suddenly vanished. Replaced by…what? A bitter drunk? An abusive husband? A defeated, lonely bureaucrat? To think that all my life I had been wrestling with nothing more than a ghost! [Page 220]
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‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
THE TRUTH
FULL QUOTE From Dreams From My Father:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
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Admittedly McCain could have explained his positions better, even though all of his plans on his issues are far superior, he didn't get his point across like he should. Wether you want to believe it or not, the majority of the people do not want a socialist government. Obama will get us bombed and tax the f**k out of us at the same time. The lib press won't bother to ask him how he's going to get the money for his TRILLION dollar spending spree. Doesn't matter if your making $250000 or $25000, your going to get hit. Commonsense 101.
Coach, this is me being serious. Please find me 1 fact that you dont hear on Fox news. Think about the shit you are saying.... "Obama will get us bombed"?? There is a better chance if you going Postal than us getting "bombed"... "he will tax the fuck out of us" 95% of Americans taxes wont go up according to indy analysis reports. Your Tax Rate going to 36% instead of 33% is hardly "taxing the fuck out of you" Go Donate 10gs to your fav charity and write it off and you are in the exact same position...
Trillion Dollar spending spree? Where you getting this? 860 Billion over 4 years.... Iraq War Alone 800 million... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Wrong.
Mccain`s solutions to the issues flat out suck. They also DO NOT resonate nor benefit the majority of Americans. Americans are realizing this and the tide of the election reflects it.
Exactly, he has no real solutions so he is resorting to attacks.. His healthcare plan sucks. Obama's plan based on employers providing care in return for tax breaks actually makes sense. Plus McCain picked a vice president who is mediocre to the last degree. A person who faults Obama for serving on the board with a man who is a professor at an elite institution(University of Chicago), when she along with her husband were members of a group that was all for Alaska seceding from the Union. :-\ Can you say trailer trash?
And lets face it, McCain just came off as a jackass in both debates to anyone with a brain. He told stories asking us to praise him because he was sodomized in some prison camp for 5 years; he gave nothing of hope or comfort to the average American.
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Fear mongering is not pointing out his associations with a terrorist Bill Ayers, a racist Jeremiah Wright, a scandal w/ Rezco, and his support of Odinga the Kenyan leader who wants Kenya to be a Muslim theocracy and is using murder to get there.
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -Obama , The Audacity of Hope
Hope the truth didn`t PWN you too badly. :)
At least you stand corrected.
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The coach is complaining about Obama's plans to spend a trillion dollars over the course of years.. when Bush has spent what? 5?
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Republicans lack of will power to have sex with men and little boys and then get mad at Dem's that get busted fuckin hot ass chicks sickens me.
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Too bad you all seem to forget who supply jobs and that capital gain amongst other things are in Osbomba tax plan.
Tax the hell out of the employers and tax anyone chance to make money besides a paycheck...hmm...sound like communism to me.
Osbomba is preparing you all to be his slaves bitchs.
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Too bad you all seem to forget who supply jobs and that capital gain amongst other things are in Osbomba tax plan.
Tax the hell out of the employers and tax anyone chance to make money besides a paycheck...hmm...sound like communism to me.
Osbomba is preparing you all to be his slaves bitchs.
sounds like another in the closet Homo..probably hangs out in the mens room in a stall like most republicans
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Too bad you all seem to forget who supply jobs and that capital gain amongst other things are in Osbomba tax plan.
Tax the hell out of the employers and tax anyone chance to make money besides a paycheck...hmm...sound like communism to me.
Osbomba is preparing you all to be his slaves bitchs.
YEP if you ship your jobs over seas TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.. Create Jobs here, give them TAX BREAKS, you dont think that will help the economy?
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YEP if you ship your jobs over seas TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.. Create Jobs here, give them TAX BREAKS, you dont think that will help the economy?
Wow....for someone who speaks so much about politics you surely have no idea what your talking about.
You completely missed it boy.
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Hope the truth didn`t PWN you too badly. :)
At least you stand corrected.
Clean up the other 3 and I'll vote for him. ;D
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After Nov 5th, the next 8 years is going to be a loonnnnnngggggggggg time for these Republican whiners on board.
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U.S. unemployment rate-4.8
England unemployment rate-5.3
France unemployment rate-7.5
Spain unemployment rate-8.1
U.S. average income-53,000
England average income-31,370
France average income-43,000
Spain average income-18,670
U.S. gas/gallon-3.50
England gas/gallon-9.00
France gas/gallon-8.54
Spain gas/gallon-6.40
U.S. tax rate for average income-30%
England tax rate for average income-40%
France tax rate for average income-50%
Spain tax rate for average income-42%
U.S. payroll tax-15.3%
England payroll tax-23.8%
France payroll tax-45%
Spain payroll tax-0
U.S. sales tax-10%(state and local)
England sales tax-17.6%
France sales tax-19.6%
Spain sales tax-16%
U.S. pint of beer-4.05
England pint of beer-5.07
France pint of beer-9
Spain pint of beer-4.09
Whether you want to believe that europe, a socialist continent, is doing better than America I think you are wrong. The average salary is lower, and while some may say that the euro is worth more, proportionately speaking, it buys a lot less. Taxes are significantly higher, which results in less spending money. Socialism has failed in every instance, why would you elect someone that brings this to the table? I think the dumbest possible thing anyone can say is that Obama has a "clear vision". Shit I can have a clear vision of running over a mom and her kid with my car, that doesn't make it a good idea. Obama wants to raise taxes on the "rich". These said rich people are the smartest most successful people in this country, why punish them? People with this much income will move out of this country, there will be no incentive to live here. Our government isn't designed to handle the promises that mccain or obama make. I just personally believe that Obama is just promising things to the country so he can make it in to office.
just my 2 cents...
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About time someone posted some common sense with some facts to back them up.
I think this election has really brought something into the light that some of us have known all along:
This entire process is a total disaster and neither of the two major parties presents candidates who really care to serve the best interests of the American people. We can sit here and debate the projected issues all day long, but what does it really matter? When is the last time a President did anything they said they were going to do? When is the last time the Congress did something that actually benefited the American people? We were begging that they not pass this bailout bill...but they did it anyway.
Why believe or put any stock in ANYTHING these people say? It's just rhetoric and talking points.
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About time someone posted some common sense with some facts to back them up.
So why would you vote for McCain? The only people voting for McCain are rich, white conservatives for the most part. Hell if I was rich and had my own business I'd probably vote for the old fucker. But a majority of Americans are middle class. Out of the two, people are going to vote their own self interest. That's America! Obama is willing to do more for the middle class than McCain. Maybe that's not your idea of why government should exist but middle class Americans are hurting. You wanna talk about the redistribution of wealth........well for the past 20 years the rich have been getting richer and the middle class has been dissolving into the top and bottom echelons of society all the while farcical right wingers still cling to the myth of trickle down economics. This is neither good for democracy nor liberty. If Americans really cared about freedom and capitalism they'd vote for Ron Paul or a third party. But instead they are voting for socalism for the rich or socialism for the poor. I'm gonna vote for the guy that owns one house and has student loans instead of the guy that has 12 and a rich bimbo wife. It's time to redistribute income the other way this time around. And don't sit there and preach capitalism cause let's face it the Republicans nor the Democrats have been practicing capitalism for the last 30-50 years. If that's not evident now to all you right wingers I don't know what is. For 4 years a Republican congress did fuck all to quench the thirst of a greedy Wallstreet. And now everyone is sitting around blaming each other and becoming further divided among a corrupt two party system. The George Soros of the world are no different than the Bill Gates of the world. Both rich white fuckers! I'm white but in the end if someone had to point a gun to my head I say give the Black man a chance and let's see what he can do. He can't fuck up the economy or this country more than it already is.
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I think this election has really brought something into the light that some of us have known all along:
This entire process is a total disaster and neither of the two major parties presents candidates who really care to serve the best interests of the American people. We can sit here and debate the projected issues all day long, but what does it really matter? When is the last time a President did anything they said they were going to do? When is the last time the Congress did something that actually benefited the American people? We were begging that they not pass this bailout bill...but they did it anyway.
Why believe or put any stock in ANYTHING these people say? It's just rhetoric and talking points.
The governemnt is constantly doing stuff that benefits Americans. But those Americans are wealthy, elitists and represent a minority. You should reword your post to ask when was the last time our government stood up for the middle and working class families of America. Oh but if they did that everyone would label them a fucking socialist. But our government has no problem socializing the fucking rich. The average American is a brainwashed idiot and the wealthy elite prey on that.
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The governemnt is constantly doing stuff that benefits Americans. But those Americans are wealthy, elitists and represent a minority. You should reword your post to ask when was the last time our government stood up for the middle and working class families of America. Oh but if they did that everyone would label them a fucking socialist. But our government has no problem socializing the fucking rich. The average American is a brainwashed idiot and the wealthy elite prey on that.
Excuse me! When I said American people, I was referring to the majority of folks; this happens to be middle class.
And yes, most Americans are hopelessly lost in a haze of fast food, ball games, celebrity caricatures and the political charade. There's nothing that can be done to right the ship at this point. As I've said before, AMERICANS ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE.
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So why would you vote for McCain? The only people voting for McCain are rich, white conservatives for the most part. Hell if I was rich and had my own business I'd probably vote for the old fucker. But a majority of Americans are middle class. Out of the two, people are going to vote their own self interest. That's America! Obama is willing to do more for the middle class than McCain. Maybe that's not your idea of why government should exist but middle class Americans are hurting. You wanna talk about the redistribution of wealth........well for the past 20 years the rich have been getting richer and the middle class has been dissolving into the top and bottom echelons of society all the while farcical right wingers still cling to the myth of trickle down economics. This is neither good for democracy nor liberty. If Americans really cared about freedom and capitalism they'd vote for Ron Paul or a third party. But instead they are voting for socalism for the rich or socialism for the poor. I'm gonna vote for the guy that owns one house and has student loans instead of the guy that has 12 and a rich bimbo wife. It's time to redistribute income the other way this time around. And don't sit there and preach capitalism cause let's face it the Republicans nor the Democrats have been practicing capitalism for the last 30-50 years. If that's not evident now to all you right wingers I don't know what is. For 4 years a Republican congress did fuck all to quench the thirst of a greedy Wallstreet. And now everyone is sitting around blaming each other and becoming further divided among a corrupt two party system. The George Soros of the world are no different than the Bill Gates of the world. Both rich white fuckers! I'm white but in the end if someone had to point a gun to my head I say give the Black man a chance and let's see what he can do. He can't fuck up the economy or this country more than it already is.
My rents are voting for McCain purely based off the capital gains tax and the fact he is a Republican. They are the semi-wealthy who have made good money off this ridiculous, inflated economy that's coming back down. I'll be more than happy to see them coming back down to earth where they belong!
Now, if McCain wanted to reconstitute a draft (which he's hinted at) and send me to die in the Middle East, that would be OK with them. I would be serving my country and fighting to protect freedom! What a naive perspective.
McCain is an abysmal candidate. He's the best the Reps could do because the big money was scared of backing Romney.
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Excuse me! When I said American people, I was referring to the majority of folks; this happens to be middle class.
And yes, most Americans are hopelessly lost in a haze of fast food, ball games, celebrity caricatures and the political charade. There's nothing that can be done to right the ship at this point. As I've said before, AMERICANS ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE.
Yes we are. I mean let's face it...........regardless of your views on life, government, religion or god.............it's pretty simple........we've been living like gluttons for the last 100 years. 4% of the world consuming 25% of the world's resources....millions of people die of malaria, starve to death, live in a mud hut. If there is a god do you think he really gives a fuck about Americans and their 401k? I mean come on. What makes us so special in the grand scheme of life? We'll go down in history like any other great empire has. A new one will spring up. And mankind will never learn from his mistakes until its too late.
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Yes we are. I mean let's face it...........regardless of your views on life, government, religion or god.............it's pretty simple........we've been living like gluttons for the last 100 years. 4% of the world consuming 25% of the world's resources....millions of people die of malaria, starve to death, live in a mud hut. If there is a god do you think he really gives a fuck about Americans and their 401k? I mean come on. What makes us so special in the grand scheme of life? We'll go down in history like any other great empire has. A new one will spring up. And mankind will never learn from his mistakes until its too late.
While I was in LA, I'll never forget what a well-known producer told me:
"This country isn't going to get any better until someone else comes in and takes it over."
I wonder who he was talking about?
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My rents are voting for McCain purely based off the capital gains tax and the fact he is a Republican. They are the semi-wealthy who have made good money off this ridiculous, inflated economy that's coming back down. I'll be more than happy to see them coming back down to earth where they belong!
Now, if McCain wanted to reconstitute a draft (which he's hinted at) and send me to die in the Middle East, that would be OK with them. I would be serving my country and fighting to protect freedom! What a naive perspective.
McCain is an abysmal candidate. He's the best the Reps could do because the big money was scared of backing Romney.
Romney was just another corporate suit in my opinion. That's the entire problem. Wealth has become the predominant force in American politics. This hasn't always been the case. America will be a third world country if it continues the path its on. What is the defining characteristic of a third world country? No middle class, a predominantly poor, and then a very poweful, rich minority.
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dem and rep are both pussies.... we need a new party. ron paul... it wont happen but we need change
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Romney was just another corporate suit in my opinion. That's the entire problem. Wealth has become the predominant force in American politics. This hasn't always been the case. America will be a third world country if it continues the path its on. What is the defining characteristic of a third world country? No middle class, a predominantly poor, and then a very poweful, rich minority.
We'll see what unfolds. What do you think about this clip?
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dem and rep are both pussies.... we need a new party. ron paul... it wont happen but we need change
Ron is too far ahead of his time. He's speaking at a different level that these other candidates are not capable of reaching. He can speak freely while these other guys try to keep everything as bottled as possible.
In an ideal world, Ron Paul would be a viable candidate. But, in an ideal world, we wouldn't need Ron so badly in the first place.
We're in a tough spot, ain't we?
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
- Thomas Jefferson
Where does this leave us, gents?
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We'll see what unfolds. What do you think about this clip?
This is the 21st century not the 1700s. The American population doesn't stand a chance if it came down to a physical revolution. We have assualt rifles but the Government has F-22's and Tanks. Do you really see your neighbors or coworkers.....grabbing an AR15 and storming "Capitol Hill" like the French did with the Bastille? LMAO! I hope so! But it's highly unlikely.
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And Relentless you do realize who Lyndon LaRouche is? Like Ron Paul many consider him a conspiracy nut. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
- Thomas Jefferson
Where does this leave us, gents?
Talk about a man that was way ahead of his time. Everything that man said was utter brilliance!
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And Relentless you do realize who Lyndon LaRouche is? Like Ron Paul many consider him a conspiracy nut. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
I do not think Ron Paul is a conspiracy nut, but I don't know much about Lyndon other than he is widely viewed as a crackpot. I just thought his views were rather harrowing, if not amusing.
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U.S. unemployment rate-4.8
England unemployment rate-5.3
France unemployment rate-7.5
Spain unemployment rate-8.1
U.S. average income-53,000
England average income-31,370
France average income-43,000
Spain average income-18,670
U.S. gas/gallon-3.50
England gas/gallon-9.00
France gas/gallon-8.54
Spain gas/gallon-6.40
U.S. tax rate for average income-30%
England tax rate for average income-40%
France tax rate for average income-50%
Spain tax rate for average income-42%
U.S. payroll tax-15.3%
England payroll tax-23.8%
France payroll tax-45%
Spain payroll tax-0
U.S. sales tax-10%(state and local)
England sales tax-17.6%
France sales tax-19.6%
Spain sales tax-16%
U.S. pint of beer-4.05
England pint of beer-5.07
France pint of beer-9
Spain pint of beer-4.09
Whether you want to believe that europe, a socialist continent, is doing better than America I think you are wrong. The average salary is lower, and while some may say that the euro is worth more, proportionately speaking, it buys a lot less. Taxes are significantly higher, which results in less spending money. Socialism has failed in every instance, why would you elect someone that brings this to the table? I think the dumbest possible thing anyone can say is that Obama has a "clear vision". Shit I can have a clear vision of running over a mom and her kid with my car, that doesn't make it a good idea. Obama wants to raise taxes on the "rich". These said rich people are the smartest most successful people in this country, why punish them? People with this much income will move out of this country, there will be no incentive to live here. Our government isn't designed to handle the promises that mccain or obama make. I just personally believe that Obama is just promising things to the country so he can make it in to office.
just my 2 cents...
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like i said obsessed with money.
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U.S. unemployment rate-4.8
England unemployment rate-5.3
France unemployment rate-7.5
Spain unemployment rate-8.1
U.S. average income-53,000
England average income-31,370
France average income-43,000
Spain average income-18,670
U.S. gas/gallon-3.50
England gas/gallon-9.00
France gas/gallon-8.54
Spain gas/gallon-6.40
U.S. tax rate for average income-30%
England tax rate for average income-40%
France tax rate for average income-50%
Spain tax rate for average income-42%
U.S. payroll tax-15.3%
England payroll tax-23.8%
France payroll tax-45%
Spain payroll tax-0
U.S. sales tax-10%(state and local)
England sales tax-17.6%
France sales tax-19.6%
Spain sales tax-16%
U.S. pint of beer-4.05
England pint of beer-5.07
France pint of beer-9
Spain pint of beer-4.09
Whether you want to believe that europe, a socialist continent, is doing better than America I think you are wrong. The average salary is lower, and while some may say that the euro is worth more, proportionately speaking, it buys a lot less. Taxes are significantly higher, which results in less spending money. Socialism has failed in every instance, why would you elect someone that brings this to the table? I think the dumbest possible thing anyone can say is that Obama has a "clear vision". Shit I can have a clear vision of running over a mom and her kid with my car, that doesn't make it a good idea. Obama wants to raise taxes on the "rich". These said rich people are the smartest most successful people in this country, why punish them? People with this much income will move out of this country, there will be no incentive to live here. Our government isn't designed to handle the promises that mccain or obama make. I just personally believe that Obama is just promising things to the country so he can make it in to office.
just my 2 cents...
Those numbers look mighty dandy, especially the figure that states that the US has a gross per capital income of over 53K. ::) ::) They're wrong.
The only problem is that in the US right now 72% of the wealth is concentrated in only 10% of the people. That means that the remaining 28% is owed by a whopping 90%. If we extrapolate that to the 53k figures, we'll find out that a rather large portion of that number is really a "visual gift" from the richest 10%, or $ 37,736. Hence the REAL gross per capital income in the US adjusted for weath disparity is $ 15,264. Which seems to be more along the lines of economic "normalcy".
You can make any comparisons you want, like the price of gas or even unemployment, but in doingso you will not be adding any value to the problems that really affect regular people here in the states or making balanced comparisons between the two geographic entities. I mean, unemployment is really big in Europe and their unemployment systems are lightyears away from the shit that we have here. And we can pretty much extrapolate the figures to any of your observations. I mean school, college, health insurance, all is paid for over in Europe. Over here? Hehehe yeah right!
And with this I'm not trying to put down my country, I love the US, I am merely trying to point out that our system of bending over backwards for Big Business has to stop, either by popular discontent or the government going bankrupt. One or the other, it will fail. And it is failing. Guess where the 850 billion dollar package is going to end up? That's right, that is going to translate into another 1-2% in the Top 1% and taken out of the suckers in the Next 10% row.
Europeans live better man. Bottom line. I mean, they took their continent through God knows how many wars and were able to recontruct it and build back their systems. They must be doing something right!
(http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/faculty/hodgson/Courses/so11/stratification/Wealth2004.gif)
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Those numbers look mighty dandy, especially the figure that states that the US has a gross per capital income of over 53K. ::) ::) They're wrong.
The only problem is that in the US right now 72% of the wealth is owed by only 10% of the people. That means that the remaining 28% is owed by a whopping 90% of the people. If we extrapolate that to the 53k figures, we'll find out that a rather large portion of that number really belongs to the richest 10%, or $ 37,736. Hence the REAL gross per capital income in the US adjusted for weath disparity is $ 15,264. Which seems to be more along the lines of economic "normalcy".
You can talk about any other factor if you want to, like the price of gas or even unemployment, but in doingso you will not be adding any value to the problems that really affect regular people here in the states. I mean, unemployment is really big in Europe because their unemployment systems are lightyears away from the shit that we have here. And we can pretty much extrapolate the figures to any of your observations. I mean even school, college, health insurance is paid for over in Europe. Not here.
And with this I'm not trying to put down my country, I love the USA, I am merely trying to point out that our system of bending over backwards for Big Business has to stop, either by popular discontent or the government going bankrupt. One or the other, it will fail. And it is failing. Guess where the 850 billion dollar package is going to end up? That's right, that is going to translate into another 1-2% in the Top 1% and taken out of the suckers in the Next 10% row.
They live better man. Bottom line.
(http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/faculty/hodgson/Courses/so11/stratification/Wealth2004.gif)
I think you should start giving away your vast wealth to homeless people.
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I think you should start giving away your vast wealth to homeless people.
You're missing the point dude. At this point I'd be happy if the powers-that-be didn't give it to the Top 1%. Or that these huge conglomerates actually PAID taxes.
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You're missing the point dude. At this point I'd be happy if the powers-that-be didn't give it to the Top 1%. Or that these huge conglomerates actually PAID taxes.
Flat tax - ZERO deductions. No loop holes.
Simple form.
This year you made: x amount of Ameros.
10 percent of x is: y
You owe: y
Pay up foo!
It would fit on a 3x5 index card.
Think of the trees we'd save.
Yay green planet! ;D
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After Nov 5th, the next 8 years is going to be a loonnnnnngggggggggg time for these Republican whiners on board.
They'll just change their names and disappear for a while, ...or will insist they were for obama all along.
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They'll just change their names and disappear for a while, ...or will insist they were for obama all along.
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I'll bet you a dime? :P
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They'll just change their names and disappear for a while, ...or will insist they were for obama all along.
LOL @ those that confuse Republican with Conservative.
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Check it.
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More.