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I thought she did a FANTASTIC job as moderator of last night's debate. I mentioned it last night in one of Hugo's threads, but I haven't seen anyone else giver Ifill her props. I think she handled the whole debate very objectively, which allow both candidates to be at their best. That was a great debate last night. Sen. Biden did very well, and as much as people on this board loathe Gov. Palin, one would be a fool to not admit that she knocked it out of the park last night.
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Palin exceeded expectations, but hit it out of the park she did not. She got a standing double.
Moderators was good.
Time of possession for each was even
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These days, moderators in debates are practically irrelevant. Ifill (whom I like) was perfectly serviceable in the position. All the fretting from Palin supporters that somehow Gwen was going to hurt their candidate was nonsense. If Pailn had not previously proven herself a simpleton those concerns would never have been raised.
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Moderators from both debates so far have a left slant to them, but both of them treated each candidate fairly.
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moderators in debates are practically irrelevant.
I think that's the whole point. It shouldn't be about the moderator, but just the candidates doing verbal battle.
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Palin exceeded expectations, but hit it out of the park she did not. She got a standing double.
Moderators was good.
Time of possession for each was even
Play it down as best can be, she has re-energized the conservative base for a second time in as many months.
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Play it down as best can be, she has re-energized the conservative base for a second time in as many months.
I think she did that also, but did she get new votes? I don't think so. I think anyone who watched that last night who is independent or on the fence would lean towards the democratic ticket.
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Was there any doubt Ifill would not do a good job?
Oh yeah... by the cons making pre-emptive excuses for Palin's performance. Now that Palin did ok, suddenly Ifill did a great job??
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I thought she did a FANTASTIC job as moderator of last night's debate. I mentioned it last night in one of Hugo's threads, but I haven't seen anyone else giver Ifill her props. I think she handled the whole debate very objectively, which allow both candidates to be at their best. That was a great debate last night. Sen. Biden did very well, and as much as people on this board loathe Gov. Palin, one would be a fool to not admit that she knocked it out of the park last night.
As a Sarah Palin fan myself, I thought Ifil did a great job. Fair and balanced and let the candidates speak without interupting..
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She was a good moderator and very fair to both candidates. I would have liked a few more questions though. Lots of important topics not addressed. Immigration policy as one of them.
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She let palin get away with takling about whatever she wanted.
She knew that one polite 'please stay on topic, sarah' and she'd be branded a left-wing evildoer by FOX douchebags.
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Was there any doubt Ifill would not do a good job?
Oh yeah... by the cons making pre-emptive excuses for Palin's performance. Now that Palin did ok, suddenly Ifill did a great job??
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LOL bro you had ppl on here going on about palin wearing a cast for sympathy and palin wearing her hair down to hide a ear piece and then you have a moderator who is decidedly biased...which one do you think is more credible to talk about? But guess which ones the left ppl on this board choose to legitmize?
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I didnt like her... I wanted to see the moderator try stumping them to shake up their pre planned speeches for each answer... Seeing her alow palin to recite memorized answers with out asking something different made me wanna barf
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The post I made about her book turned out to be much to do about nothing. She did fine was was pretty impartial.
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She did good. I still think she should have stepped aside because of her book and anti-Palin comments, but she was "fair and balanced." :)
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Play it down as best can be, she has re-energized the conservative base for a second time in as many months.
True, but the conservative base should not need to be re-energized at this point in the game.
I wanted Romney as the Presidential candidate, but think the ticket would appear much stronger had he been chosen for VP right now.
I agree with OzmO, I don't think she hurt, but I don't think she grabbed any new votes. I've always thought the VP had no impact anyway, though.
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Did she get new votes?
Yes. Absolutely.
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That's what Lunz's focus group showed yesterday. A room full of independents and undecided voters who split evenly between Bush and Kerry said overwhelmingly that Palin won and several said they would now vote for McCain.
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That's what Lunz's focus group showed yesterday. A room full of independents and undecided voters who split evenly between Bush and Kerry said overwhelmingly that Palin won and several said they would now vote for McCain.
eh, Lunz works for fox news and hasn't been objective for a while. He brags on ability to change answers based upon way he asks Qs.
That 95% number sure wasn't reflected in any other poll. I'd prefer wait for zogby to do something scientific, not roll with the findings of a FOX employee who gloats about his power of manipulation.
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I didnt like her... I wanted to see the moderator try stumping them to shake up their pre planned speeches for each answer... Seeing her alow palin to recite memorized answers with out asking something different made me wanna barf
And Senator Botox did not do the same thing?
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That's what Lunz's focus group showed yesterday. A room full of independents and undecided voters who split evenly between Bush and Kerry said overwhelmingly that Palin won and several said they would now vote for McCain.
I saw that as well...it could tighten the race up. The moderator did a good job and kept the debate clicking along.
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eh, Lunz works for fox news and hasn't been objective for a while. He brags on ability to change answers based upon way he asks Qs.
That 95% number sure wasn't reflected in any other poll. I'd prefer wait for zogby to do something scientific, not roll with the findings of a FOX employee who gloats about his power of manipulation.
anybody and everybody can do that even you 240 you probably do it everyday and dont even realize it.
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Why do the candidates continue to let these wastes of organs moderate these little chit chats?
She did a shitty job.
She let ramblin Palin roll like a truck giving answers to questions not asked. Again, and again, and again.
The job of a moderator is to narrow the issues in the form of a question/statement to elicit germane responses.
That did not happen. She didn't drop the hammer when either one was unresponsive.
Why wasn't Jim Lehrer used? hahahaha. I knew I couldn't type that with a straight face.
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She let palin get away with takling about whatever she wanted.
She knew that one polite 'please stay on topic, sarah' and she'd be branded a left-wing evildoer by FOX douchebags.
I have to agree. She did let Palin go OFF-Topic too many times.
I liked the fact that she called both candidates on the failure of their principals to address a question Lehrer asked
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Moderators from both debates so far have a left slant to them, but both of them treated each candidate fairly.
Since there is a debate tomorrow night, I want to keep an eye out for the left slant of the moderator.
Could you tell me what to look for?
I mean what are the indicators/cues that tell me that the debate moderator is slanting to the left with his/her moderator duties?
Silly me, I thought Lehrer and Ifill were horrible, horrible moderators b/c they didn't moderate...they tossed out softballs and let the candidates ramble on about anything.
Around here at GB, that's viewed as fair. In my world, that's more of the problem.
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Since there is a debate tomorrow night, I want to keep an eye out for the left slant of the moderator.
Could you tell me what to look for?
I mean what are the indicators/cues that tell me that the debate moderator is slanting to the left with his/her moderator duties?
Silly me, I thought Lehrer and Ifill were horrible, horrible moderators b/c they didn't moderate...they tossed out softballs and let the candidates ramble on about anything.
Around here at GB, that's viewed as fair. In my world, that's more of the problem.
Nice try decker, but you botched it.
See the bolded part of your sentence - that's twisting my words. I never said they slanting to the left with their moderator duties. What the hell does that even mean? I said both moderators treated each candidate fairly.
You know what I meant anyway. You're just being a dick.
If you can't see that Ifill's background puts her on the side of the left, there's no use responding to you seriously.
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Nice try decker, but you botched it.
See the bolded part of your sentence - that's twisting my words. I never said they slanting to the left with their moderator duties. What the hell does that even mean? I said both moderators treated each candidate fairly.
You know what I meant anyway. You're just being a dick.
If you can't see that Ifill's background puts her on the side of the left, there's no use responding to you seriously.
You are engaging in the timeworn tradition of crying like a pussy about the liberal media. You rightwingers are all victims of this media. But thank god the moderators could curb their natural liberal impulses to give a fair shake to the republican.
Stop that. She did an outstandingly bad job of moderating the debate. If anything, she showed an incompetent bias with strong leanings toward favoring Palin.
How else do you explain letting Palin not answer the questions asked again and again and again?
Or is that your idea of 'fair and balanced'? Let the republican numbskull avoid answering the questions posed. That's the ticket.
Have you ever watched Washington Week in Review? Do you even know what show that is?
Since we are getting all folksy here about our liberal media, did you know Condoleezza Rica and Ifill are personal friends? That's the sign of an obvious leftwinger.
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You are engaging in the timeworn tradition of crying like a pussy about the liberal media. You rightwingers are all victims of this media. But thank god the moderators could curb their natural liberal impulses to give a fair shake to the republican.
Stop that. She did an outstandingly bad job of moderating the debate. If anything, she showed an incompetent bias with strong leanings toward favoring Palin.
How else do you explain letting Palin not answer the questions asked again and again and again?
Or is that your idea of 'fair and balanced'? Let the republican numbskull avoid answering the questions posed. That's the ticket.
Have you ever watched Washington Week in Review? Do you even know what show that is?
Since we are getting all folksy here about our liberal media, did you know Condoleezza Rica and Ifill are personal friends? That's the sign of an obvious leftwinger.
Serioulsly, what are you talking about? I didn't complain about the liberal media at all. I said they treated each candidate fairly, despite their own personal affiliations. Whether they did a good job was not the point, it was their treatment of each candidate. That's it.
Your statement implied that you didn't believe that the moderators had liberal tendencies. Even SNL made fun of Ifilln.
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Serioulsly, what are you talking about? I didn't complain about the liberal media at all. I said they treated each candidate fairly, despite their own personal affiliations. Whether they did a good job was not the point, it was their treatment of each candidate. That's it.
Your statement implied that you didn't believe that the moderators had liberal tendencies. Even SNL made fun of Ifilln.
Complaining? You matter-of-factly state the liberal bias of the mediators and and you express wonder about my statements.
Ok.
If the moderator does a good job as moderator, then each candidate is treated fairly. Is that a fair statement?
There is no thing-in-itself reality. Therefore bias is present all the time. Is that bias unfair? I don't know. I know Ifill did a horrible job moderating the debate and b/c of her inadequate performance, Sarah Palin got a free ride. Palin answered questions when she felt like it and delivered disassociated canned answers to the quesions she wouldn't answer forthright.
I watched the SNL bit. It's always entertaining to me for the masses to believe that SNL is some hip liberal show when it's owned by the Military Industrial Complex aka General Electric.
Yeah, there's top down control of all corporate assets of GE...except for SNL. I'm sure GE will finance a show at odds with its corporate bottom line.
Of course. That goes hand in glove with the comedy sketch rightfully portraying Bush as a mass murderer. Oh wait, that sketch never happened. We saw the one that shows Bush as a bumbler. Zing!