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Mustafa looks scared. Looks like he's about to give Milos that pen to the jugular. Reminiscent of hijackers stabbing someone.
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Milos has always stayed in relatively good shape since he retired. Good to see that, it means he takes his training seriously, and derives enjoyment, not just a means to an end.
Apparently planning a comeback of sorts.
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MM-"Fuck you man, I don't owe you shit" (Middle Eastern Accent)
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Wow i really hope Milos had nothing to do with the way MM looked in Spain and at the O. He looked as if he forgot to do cardio.
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the word in So Cal is......
never lend Mishko money & expect for him to pay it back.
Thats what I hear
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Well, it aint cheap paying franchise fees, and rent...
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(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/profi_grand_prix_2006_graz/PA064226.JPG)
Mustafa looks scared. Looks like he's about to give Milos that pen to the jugular. Reminiscent of hijackers stabbing someone.
believe you me....Milos had backup just waiting outside the room...
(http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/3268-2/tsa.jpg)
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That shot of MM in your avatar is awesome. Aren't all these people in this loaning money debacle foreigners? My dad was a foreigner, unfortunately he didn't have the luxury of taking steroids and spending hours in the gym. He worked his ass off working as a butcher and on automotive assembly lines just to get into college after coming to this country.
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Milos has always stayed in relatively good shape since he retired. Good to see that, it means he takes his training seriously, and derives enjoyment, not just a means to an end.
Apparently planning a comeback of sorts.
He keeps saying he only has time for like 2 meals a day (I think) - I hope he isn't using too much to keep his shape due to his lack of time...
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the word in So Cal is......
never lend Mishko money & expect for him to pay it back.
Thats what I hear
Not too many people call me Mishko nowadays - so knny187 must be some of my old acquaintances...
Now - can you tell me a single person that landed me a money?
My problem with Mustafa is that after giving him a lot of money and paying for just about everything he asked me for additional loan that would save his gym, family, kids...etc...
After lending him the money (CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT) he simply forgot to pay me back...
Also he threaten me over the phone that he is going to kill me if I tell this to anyone...
That was the reason I publicly made comment in the first place.
Since than I managed to collect some of the money back - by going back stage at the San Francisco (Mustafa called security to come and protect him...) show where he got some prize money.
I also collected his earnings in Australian Grand Prix.
At the Olympia this year I was in the same hotel and after he checked in I waited outside for him to ask him WHEN does he plan to give me the rest of the money...
After few words he took his bag off his shoulders as he looked that he wanted to fight me.
As I had my hands full - I also lower everything I had to the ground and charged at him...
He started yelling POLICE, POLICE...so loudly that many people came out.
He told few people that this maniac wants to kill him - and they should report IF anything happened that Milos Sarcev killed him?!?!
I told the guys that I was simply asking him for the money he owes me and he started telling that it is me who owes him a money and not the other way around??
After that I tried to avoid him but he constantly tried to approach me and start the conversation with me...(in front of Kris Dim , Vince Taylor...etc...)
Anyway, to make long story short - pics in Austria were taken at the Athletes meeting when I approached him to ask for $4000 that he received at the Olympia...He started AGAIN beating around the bush and actually called me some names...
Out of respect to the IFBB, promotor and the athletes - I just walked away...
In the mean time - promotor of the Austrian Grand Prix requested that Mustafa would NOT be allowed to compete - as he OWES MONEY to many people - including the promotor of the show Daniel Hoelzl...
He said that he knows A LOT OF PEOPLE in Austria, Germany, Switzerland...etc who Mustafa played - just like me...
Promotor of the Dutch Grand Prix is just another victim of sweet innocent Mustafa...
His name is Monder Bennour and he could also confirm how Mustafa scams people - who actually sincerely help him...
Now - do I need to go on the net and make myself look bad by revealing some private issues - NO I DON'T...BUT I CHOOSE TO DO SO - for the sake of Mustafa's next few victims...
He does put incredible act and people feel so sorry for him that they almost feel obligated to help poor Mustafa in quest to feed his family...
In the mean time he does have apartments in Jordan, Austria and who knows what else - all paid by people like me, Monder, Daniel...and dozens of others...
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Wow !!!
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Wow !!!
my thoughts exactly! i would have never thought Mustafa is like that! :o
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Wow !!!
Yeah, that's what I was thinkin. ;D
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Mighty con artist...... what a prick thing to do. Mustafa just went down a few notches in my book.
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Jezz Milos,
you shoulda told me about this i would of have this taken care of in a 'quieter' way...no photogs either...
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Jezz Milos,
you shoulda told me about this i would of have this taken care of in a 'quieter' way...no photogs either...
:-X
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Wow, this dude is a real tool, total sociopath. I hope the nuthuggers here will stop promoting him. If he can't pay his bills I don't care how big he is. A sociopath is always a sociopath.
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Mustafa = A chickenshit son of a bitch
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Mustafa needs to get a real job to pay milos back..Subway is hiring these days.. ;D
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good grief what an ass!
ta ta
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Man, what a deadbeat. Hey Milos, it's time to get Rocko and Bruno to help the mang find his wallet.
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Wow i really hope Milos had nothing to do with the way MM looked in Spain and at the O. He looked as if he forgot to do cardio.
You can't forget something you don't know...or do...
Mustafa DOESN'T need cardio ::) or low carbs ::)...
He knows his body very well...
He would show up in my gym 6 days before the Europa show with easily 15% body fat, double chin...and everything that goes with that (as a bonus package)...Than when we pull whatever miracle just so he doesn't completely embarrass himself on the stage - he would say that he is peaking for the Olympia...
In the mean time - he is doing pre Olympia shows as a warm up to get motivated for the big Mr. O.
Off course - some stupid fool (that would be me) is paying for his flights and hotel accommodations in Texas and Charlotte...(plus everything else - cabs, food, Jan Tana,....etc) - so he would have the opportunity to make some money...
I spent triple amount that he made...and that money was not even included as the money he owes me...That was a "gift" as Mustafa loves and gladly accepts the gifts...
But as to his surprise he didn't win both - Europa and Charlotte show last year - he needed a serious LOAN from me in order to save his business...
Loan that he got from me IN ADDITION to all the gifts...and LOAN that he is "paying back" at the moment...
But, for some reason it is taking him so much time to come up with the rest...
Also - I see that many people believe that I put him in the hospital back in 2004.
I did take him to the hospital in Vegas and than week later in Amsterdam - to save his life after he managed to repeat the same mistake he was making in his quest to dehydrate himself...
After seeing that he is dangerous to himself - I offered him my help...So to make one thing crystal clearonce and for all - I did not advise him any any shape or form back in 2004 - when he ended up in the hospital TWICE in matter of one week!
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In a thread long deleted from getbig. Why does stuff get deleted on here?
Because pro Bbers have moderator powers and shouldn't.
Anytime a moderator has an agenda, he'll leave up threads which hurt his foes, and delete any which hurt him or his friends.
That being said, I lent Mustafa 50 cents for a can of Mountain Dew backstage at the O. Should I be worried?
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Milos, is legal action totally out of the question , in this case?
Have you ever considered calling the IFBB heads in this matter, due to the notorious bad behaviour form Musti's part, and maybe pull a coercitive action of some sort towards him, until he pays his debts within the bb circle?
Just a thought, anyway.......
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Because pro Bbers have moderator powers and shouldn't.
Anytime a moderator has an agenda, he'll leave up threads which hurt his foes, and delete any which hurt him or his friends.
That being said, I lent Mustafa 50 cents for a can of Mountain Dew backstage at the O. Should I be worried?
Thats stupid, do they really care that much because most of the guys claim they could care less.
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wow, Milos that is a story!!, there is one lesson I have learn trough life experiences is that Money and friends never mix, one is better off giving the money instead of let friends borrow. I could not help my self LOL about the part were Mustafa was calling the police out loud that was funny
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Depends on the friend I think. Money and friends don't mix if the friend is a fucking asshole. A friend of mine could lend me money and I would pay him back (not that it would ever come up where I would need it). Also, I have some friends who can definitely be trusted with it. Depends on the friend.
true, things that like should be taken seriously and as friend it should be your number one priority to return the money.
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haha, Milos was sympathizing with Mustafa before when he got the guys from MuscleTime.com to give him $100 one year at the NOC, stating the promoters should cover minor expenses like that. Pavol didn't compete that year due to having the coverage of those expenses denied.
Mustafa's DVD was good though:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mustafamohammadtitans8dvd.html
If he had any sense he would do more to promote himself and make an honest living off bodybuilding.
How expensive is aldactone? :-X
Must be pretty expensive after you account for all the hospitalization Mustafa received because the diuretic. Didn't Milos save Mustafa’s life?
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wow, so if Mustafa would have gotten that injection, we most likely would have died?
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what i dont uderstand is why milos would you continue to give "gifts" and lend him money, when the word on the street was he usually does not pay people back.
blaming mustafa is indeed correct, you also must blame yourself.
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blinded by a false bond of trust.
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Milos you charged at Mustafa? were you going to fight him right there? whatever happened to lawsuit? they'll give you one of his apartments.
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i THINK WHEN YOU LOAN SOMEONE A CONSIDERBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THERE SOULD BE SOME KIND OF LEGAL AGREEMENT SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES AND A WITNESS ( AND A LAYWER OR WHATEVER)... HAVING TO LOAN SOMEONE MONEY AND HAVING TO ASK FOR IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND BREATH.. WHEN YOU HAVE LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT THE COURT CAN BACK U UP ON IS THE WAY TO DO IT.. YOU CAN ALWAYS F*CK SOMEONE UP THAT OWES YOU MONEY, BUT IN THE LONG RUN YOUR STILL OUT THE MONEY AND YOUR THE ONE THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN JAIL....
SORRY MILOS THAT U HAD TO DEAL WITH A LITTLE KID LIKE MUSTAFA.. ANY MAN WOULD PAY BACK HIS DEBTS ESPECIALLY TO HIS FREINDS.. SCREW YOU MUSTAFA...
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i THINK WHEN YOU LOAN SOMEONE A CONSIDERBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THERE SOULD BE SOME KIND OF LEGAL AGREEMENT SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES AND A WITNESS ( AND A LAYWER OR WHATEVER)... HAVING TO LOAN SOMEONE MONEY AND HAVING TO ASK FOR IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND BREATH.. WHEN YOU HAVE LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT THE COURT CAN BACK U UP ON IS THE WAY TO DO IT.. YOU CAN ALWAYS F*CK SOMEONE UP THAT OWES YOU MONEY, BUT IN THE LONG RUN YOUR STILL OUT THE MONEY AND YOUR THE ONE THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN JAIL....
SORRY MILOS THAT U HAD TO DEAL WITH A LITTLE KID LIKE MUSTAFA.. ANY MAN WOULD PAY BACK HIS DEBTS ESPECIALLY TO HIS FREINDS.. SCREW YOU MUSTAFA...
that would be the "legal" way to go about it. its funny that so many people don't even bother. even when going into business.
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what a scumbag, i thought he was a good guy, but man, thats ashame
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mustafa sounds just like any stripper out there looking for free implants...You can see these chix coming a mile away...
Milo's you sound like a good guy...From now on do yourself a favor and don't lend ANYONE any more money....
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It was a definite possibility. Granted there was also a possibility he could have made it out, but the repercussions of something like that are severe. Milos can rightfully claim to have saved Mustafa's life.
Fucking ingrate.
>:( To think I kinda liked Mustafa before this thread. What an asshole to do that to Mishko of all people >:(
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Wow! What a bastard!
I feel bad for Milos cause we all know Mustaffa won't make any serious money at a show! hahaha ;)
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don't worry Milos, the karma will get him back
stay low profil on the subject and I am pretty sure he will " fall from his hotel room's window " sometime soon ;) ;)
;D
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A fool and their money are soon parted.
People always have the greatest of intentions to pay money back when a loan is given. Funny how the loan is interpreted as a gift when its time to pay up.
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Milos seems to be doing well as a guru so hopefully he can take the loss with no major problems. It would suck if this set Milos back in other areas of his life.
the point is that he worked hard for that money and I would be pissed off too if someone stole it from me
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Milos should just man up and take this matter to court. This is everyday shit.
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A fool and their money are soon parted.
People always have the greatest of intentions to pay money back when a loan is given. Funny how the loan is interpreted as a gift when its time to pay up.
Yeah, fucking pricks. I remember a girl wanted to borrow $100 so I asked for a signed IOU to bring just in case. She said "OMG, you so don't trust me" and freaked out. So I just decided to forget about it and lent her the money anyway. Dumb bitch never paid me back. The next time someone says "OMG, you so don't trust me", I will say "DAMN RIGHT."
the point is that he worked hard for that money and I would be pissed off too if someone stole it from me
True! Same here. The money rightfully belongs to Milos.
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True! Same here. The money rightfully belongs to Milos.
yes !!
a friend of mine does a lot of "things" ;) ;)
so he has a shit load of money and trust me even if you take only 5 $ from him, he'll chase you down and kick your ass
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I was shoked when i heard news of what Mustafa did to my dear friend Milos!!!!
When i first met Mustafa, i thought this guys is the nicest man i have eve met. So giving and polite!!! He is the type of guy a girl would bring home to meet the parents and thet would immediately tell the daughter to marry him!!! thats how nice a person he came across. Well he has us all bluffed!!!
I was there in Milos's gym for those two show Milos was referring too (Europa and Charlotte Pro) training and seeing the amount of stress Mustafa put Milos under when he showed up 10 days out in offseason condition and to this day it blows my mind how he came down so much to grab 5th spot. Take nothing away from Mustafa's physique, he has it all!! but as a person now after what he has done and how he took advantage of Milos's friendship is unforgiveable. I could how much effort Milos was putting into Mustafa. Almost baby sitting him, but Milos loved him like a brother and thats what brothers do and therefore that why this made so many people close to Milos so MAD!!!!
I knew Milos was putting super overtime into Mustafa's prep for these shows but i had no idea he loaned and payed for all these things for Mustafa!!
Milos is like my best friend and he would give his shirt off his back to anyone! he puts in a heack of alot of FREE overtime for so many people because he just loves to see people reach there goals and when this is taken advantage is by people who are lower than scum!
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I was shoked when i heard news of what Mustafa did to my dear friend Milos!!!!
When i first met Mustafa, i thought this guys is the nicest man i have eve met. So giving and polite!!! He is the type of guy a girl would bring home to meet the parents and thet would immediately tell the daughter to marry him!!! thats how nice a person he came across. Well he has us all bluffed!!!
I was there in Milos's gym for those two show Milos was referring too (Europa and Charlotte Pro) training and seeing the amount of stress Mustafa put Milos under when he showed up 10 days out in offseason condition and to this day it blows my mind how he came down so much to grab 5th spot. Take nothing away from Mustafa's physique, he has it all!! but as a person now after what he has done and how he took advantage of Milos's friendship is unforgiveable. I could how much effort Milos was putting into Mustafa. Almost baby sitting him, but Milos loved him like a brother and thats what brothers do and therefore that why this made so many people close to Milos so MAD!!!!
I knew Milos was putting super overtime into Mustafa's prep for these shows but i had no idea he loaned and payed for all these things for Mustafa!!
Milos is like my best friend and he would give his shirt off his back to anyone! he puts in a heack of alot of FREE overtime for so many people because he just loves to see people reach there goals and when this is taken advantage is by people who are lower than scum!
Hey Luke, Hows it going mate? I hope all is well?
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Yeah- some of this is milos fault- sometimes you have to just be a dick and cutt people off-
im sure he knew paying back the money would not be that easy for mustafa-especially if he knew others MM owed. i dont understand why milos does not get this guy to work dealing AAS- im sure he could pay milos back within a month if he got him dealing some gear.
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Luke you're not much of a peach either. Totally cold at the show, and cut my taxi off in your white Impala right after. ::)
Well i will the first to apologise. Let me explain. The expo i was extremely jet lagged and tired. I also had an infection on my left toe as i had an ingrown toe nail that was driving me insane. I did 8 hrs at the booth Friday and 8 hrs at he booth Saturday. 8 days before arriving to Vegas. I flew the 14hrs from Sydney to LA. I spent less than 24 hrs in LA before flying to Atlantic City where i competed. I flew back to LA after the show and spent 3 days in Orange County. I than drove from Cali to Las Vegas and virtually was busy from the get go. After the Olympia i did 3 days of photo shoot for muscletech. i know this is no excuse and if i was cold towards any fans i apologise and those who know me best know i love meeting and being around the fans or should i say people who look up to me.
As for the driving, understand i am still learning here. In Australia everything is on the left hand side. We drive on the left hand side of the road, the steering wheel and everything is the complete opposite. I think i am doing pretty good so far but occasionally will make an error which is no way intentional.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but i always like to explain the situation if someone thinks i was disrespectful to them.
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Well i will the first to apologise. Let me explain. The expo i was extremely jet lagged and tired. I also had an infection on my left toe as i had an ingrown toe nail that was driving me insane. I did 8 hrs at the booth Friday and 8 hrs at he booth Saturday. 8 days before arriving to Vegas. I flew the 14hrs from Sydney to LA. I spent less than 24 hrs in LA before flying to Atlantic City where i competed. I flew back to LA after the show and spent 3 days in Orange County. I than drove from Cali to Las Vegas and virtually was busy from the get go. After the Olympia i did 3 days of photo shoot for muscletech. i know this is no excuse and if i was cold towards any fans i apologise and those who know me best know i love meeting and being around the fans or should i say people who look up to me.
As for the driving, understand i am still learning here. In Australia everything is on the left hand side. We drive on the left hand side of the road, the steering wheel and everything is the complete opposite. I think i am doing pretty good so far but occasionally will make an error which is no way intentional.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but i always like to explain the situation if someone thinks i was disrespectful to them.
You're an honourable man Luke.. Mad props on ya mate.. Cheers
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Never trust and A-rab...
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but you guys are tools, because no matter how immoral he may become you guys will still kiss his ass because he has huge quads or whatever. No wonder he won't change. It has to do with your morality too. If you think he is wrong then you shouldn't support him as a fan either.
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Never trust and A-rab...
:-X
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Not too many people call me Mishko nowadays - so knny187 must be some of my old acquaintances...
Now - can you tell me a single person that landed me a money?
No...I will honestly say that you don't know me. But....man....do I know a lot of peeps that know you - lol. Being that I'm in your backyard.....I have stumbled on a lot of skeletons w/o even putting the spade of the shovel in the soil. Alot of people talk about you behind your back....none of it's good Mishko. I'm the type of person where it doesn't matter (it's just hearsay). I make my own judgements from actual encounters, not gossip. Don't sweat it. Alot of people are like me....(too worried about my own damn business).
Oh...what's landed me a money?
do you mean "lended me money?
;)
or is that what you call it.
My problem with Mustafa is that after giving him a lot of money and paying for just about everything he asked me for additional loan that would save his gym, family, kids...etc...
After lending him the money (CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT) he simply forgot to pay me back...
Also he threaten me over the phone that he is going to kill me if I tell this to anyone...
That was the reason I publicly made comment in the first place.
Since than I managed to collect some of the money back - by going back stage at the San Francisco (Mustafa called security to come and protect him...) show where he got some prize money.
I also collected his earnings in Australian Grand Prix.
At the Olympia this year I was in the same hotel and after he checked in I waited outside for him to ask him WHEN does he plan to give me the rest of the money...
After few words he took his bag off his shoulders as he looked that he wanted to fight me.
As I had my hands full - I also lower everything I had to the ground and charged at him...
He started yelling POLICE, POLICE...so loudly that many people came out.
He told few people that this maniac wants to kill him - and they should report IF anything happened that Milos Sarcev killed him?!?!
I told the guys that I was simply asking him for the money he owes me and he started telling that it is me who owes him a money and not the other way around??
After that I tried to avoid him but he constantly tried to approach me and start the conversation with me...(in front of Kris Dim , Vince Taylor...etc...)
Anyway, to make long story short - pics in Austria were taken at the Athletes meeting when I approached him to ask for $4000 that he received at the Olympia...He started AGAIN beating around the bush and actually called me some names...
Out of respect to the IFBB, promotor and the athletes - I just walked away...
In the mean time - promotor of the Austrian Grand Prix requested that Mustafa would NOT be allowed to compete - as he OWES MONEY to many people - including the promotor of the show Daniel Hoelzl...
He said that he knows A LOT OF PEOPLE in Austria, Germany, Switzerland...etc who Mustafa played - just like me...
Promotor of the Dutch Grand Prix is just another victim of sweet innocent Mustafa...
His name is Monder Bennour and he could also confirm how Mustafa scams people - who actually sincerely help him...
Now - do I need to go on the net and make myself look bad by revealing some private issues - NO I DON'T...BUT I CHOOSE TO DO SO - for the sake of Mustafa's next few victims...
He does put incredible act and people feel so sorry for him that they almost feel obligated to help poor Mustafa in quest to feed his family...
In the mean time he does have apartments in Jordan, Austria and who knows what else - all paid by people like me, Monder, Daniel...and dozens of others...
nice story
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No...I will honestly say that you don't know me. But....man....do I know a lot of peeps that know you - lol. Being that I'm in your backyard.....I have stumbled on a lot of skeletons w/o even putting the spade of the shovel in the soil. Alot of people talk about you behind your back....none of it's good Mishko. I'm the type of person where it doesn't matter (it's just hearsay). I make my own judgements from actual encounters, not gossip. Don't sweat it. Alot of people are like me....(too worried about my own damn business).
Oh...what's landed me a money?
Your in his backyard???> What city do you stay in??? Do you train at milos gym also?
do you mean "lended me money?
;)
or is that what you call it.
nice story
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Also he threaten me over the phone that he is going to kill me if I tell this to anyone...
Roidrage
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I had a "friend" I used to lend money to years ago and it would take him literally YEARS to finally pay me all it back, only after me being the tenacious fucker that I am and him expecting me to forget about it...
Anyway, the tides turned a few years later and he finally lent me some money - mainly because he was trying to screw my girlfriend at the time's sister and wanted to look good.
He is still waiting to see that cash the dipshit...
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No...I will honestly say that you don't know me. But....man....do I know a lot of peeps that know you - lol. Being that I'm in your backyard.....I have stumbled on a lot of skeletons w/o even putting the spade of the shovel in the soil. Alot of people talk about you behind your back....none of it's good Mishko. I'm the type of person where it doesn't matter (it's just hearsay). I make my own judgements from actual encounters, not gossip. Don't sweat it. Alot of people are like me....(too worried about my own damn business).
Oh...what's landed me a money?
do you mean "lended me money?
;)
or is that what you call it.
nice story
"Too worried about your own damn business"...and making your own judgements - enough to present to the world that word in So Cal is - never give Mishko money and expect it back....or a lot of people talk about you and none of it is good...
But, you are the person that don't care about hearsay...Aren't you?
Way to go Knny...especially as you don't know me...
But here - go ahead and present all those skeletons and mention all those "bad things" people talk about me...
Also - please tell me WHO do I owe money and exactly how much...
I am ready for "public embarrassment"
Oh and what is "Alot" (as you used it twice...) - you mean: A lot?
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has knny187 been smoking again?
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Knny has been taking pics of cats again...
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Milos how much TOTAL did u loan him? I believe it is a fair question since we are talking about this on an open forum?
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"Too worried about your own damn businees"...and making your own judgements - enough to present to the world that word in So Cal is - never give Mishko money and expect it back....or a lot of people talk about you and none of it is good...
you like that?
Well...writing one line of truth on a message board (just to stir shit) sometimes is my businees. It's my form of entertainment at your expense. ;D
But, you are the person that don't care about hearsay...Aren't you?
that is true...I don't care Mishko....but it doesn't stop me from saying shit either. My theory is..."why not". ;)
Way to go Knny...especially as you don't know me...
Lay off the narcotics.... ;D You're not thinking straight. I never said I knew you.
But here - go ahead and present all those skeletons and mention all those "bad things" people talk about me...
Also - please tell me WHO do I owe money and exactly how much...
Well, All I can say is what I know. People here say don't trust you, don't ask you for money, & Man...was he given a gift with the DEA. I know people that even knew you back when you trained in San Diego....before you had your card.
I am ready for "public embarrassment"
public embarrassment?
Mishko....you don't need my help. :-*
Oh and what is "Alot" (as you used it twice...) - you mean: A lot?
Just like an astute business man like you....that can't even spell the word business.
;D
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Knny has been taking pics of cats again...
meow :-*
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meow :-*
lol ;D I knew you'd appreciate it.
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you like that?
Well...writing one line of truth on a message board (just to stir shit) sometimes is my businees. It's my form of entertainment at your expense. ;D
that is true...I don't care Mishko....but it doesn't stop me from saying shit either. My theory is..."why not". ;)
Lay off the narcotics.... ;D You're not thinking straight. I never said I knew you.
Well, All I can say is what I know. People here say don't trust you, don't ask you for money, & Man...was he given a gift with the DEA. I know people that even knew you back when you trained in San Diego....before you had your card.
public embarrassment?
Mishko....you don't need my help. :-*
Just like an astute business man like you....that can't even spell the word business.
;D
*** One line of truth...an the truth is?
*** Lay off the narcotics ? (are we going to start with insults and accusations? Last time I checked using narcotics is illegal activity...and it seems that you are accusing me of that! But, speaking of that - where did you get the idea that I said that you knew me? Read my post - I said: "especially as you DON'T KNOW ME"...I am thinking straight - always was and always will...can you say the same?
***"Well, All I can say is what I know. People here say don't trust you, don't ask you for money, & Man...was he given a gift with the DEA. I know people that even knew you back when you trained in San Diego....before you had your card."
- ALL YOU CAN SAY IS WHAT YOU KNOW - AND THAT IS:.....???
So, you are saying much more than what you know and it is usual - don't trust me (find me one person I cheated or lied to) - don't ask me for money (I thought I was the one asking for money according to you or better yet voice of So Cal....Make up your mind - it is quite confusing...)
And as far as "gift from DEA" I said it enough - and will not repeat myself. DEA is known to give gifts left and right....I am one of the very few IFBB pros that PROVED my innocence regarding possibility of steroid distribution. If I did anything - I will be writing you this from slightly different environment...But, people say things and off course - you WANT to listen...
You even know the people that knew me from San Diego....Yes? Anything you want to say about that... Perhaps - I am guilty of living in San Diego?
***Public embarrassment?
Some of us are confident to talk to anyone and about everything.
I am welcoming your idea of possibly embarrassing me with ALL MY SCELETONS...and "none of it is good"...
For some reason - you didn't answer A SINGLE question I asked as I gave you the opportunity to present me in "dark light"...
*** Is it businessman or business man?
Now - English is not my first language and I never went to school to learn it...What is your excuse? It s quite nice the way you spell it: businees...Way to go Knny!
Should we continue on my native language?
Besides I went to Europe and back twice in last three weeks, slept about 2 hours per night in average...and I have new laptop that I am not very familiar with...So - I am totally embarrassed with all of my misspelling...You got me there..
8) ;)
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*** One line of truth...an the truth is?
*** Lay off the narcotics ? (are we going to start with insults and accusations?
am I? Whats wrong with simple name calling? ;D
you seem nervous....oops....maybe not.
Last time I checked using narcotics is illegal activity
So is gear use....wait a tick.....I forgot....you got scrips on all of those. ;D
...and it seems that you are accusing me of that! But, speaking of that - where did you get the idea that I said that you knew me? Read my post - I said: "especially as you DON'T KNOW ME"
it was a contradiction....ah hell...explaining it takes the fun out of it. :-\
...I am thinking straight - always was and always will...can you say the same?
depends on the medication & doseage.....right? :-*
***"Well, All I can say is what I know. People here say don't trust you, don't ask you for money, & Man...was he given a gift with the DEA. I know people that even knew you back when you trained in San Diego....before you had your card."
- ALL YOU CAN SAY IS WHAT YOU KNOW - AND THAT IS:.....???
So, you are saying much more than what you know and it is usual - don't trust me (find me one person I cheated or lied to) - don't ask me for money (I thought I was the one asking for money according to you or better yet voice of So Cal....Make up your mind - it is quite confusing...)
well...I can't name names bro....thats what SR does ;D
(loose lips sink ships) :-*
And as far as "gift from DEA" I said it enough - and will not repeat myself. DEA is known to give gifts left and right....I am one of the very few IFBB pros that PROVED my innocence regarding possibility of steroid distribution. If I did anything - I will be writing you this from slightly different environment...But, people say things and off course - you WANT to listen...
You even know the people that knew me from San Diego....Yes? Anything you want to say about that... Perhaps - I am guilty of living in San Diego?
DEA....won't say anything about that. Sometimes they will let things slide after getting a lead on bigger fish. You are probably innocent....Honestly.... I have said it before....I would have you train me if I could afford it. You know your shit. I am NO angel. I can't say I leave the most honest life. I am not running for a political seat either.
San Diego peeps I know are mostly the owners of the old Gold's gym that used to be. Some are personal trainers, the rest are just some lackeys that used to train there.
If you haven't figured me out.....I screw around a lot so taking me 100% serious is a mistake.....as this is a message board & has a great form of entertainment for people like me.
I will say I have run into a bunch of people that do say a lot of good shit about you. For some reason....they always ask me if I know you....I reply no but they say good things. One guy lately (can't remember his name) told me how you are a great guy, real friendly, & humble. He just got back from Japan doing MMA fighting. Short Hispanic guy, real nice, cordial.
***Public embarrassment?
Some of us are confident to talk to anyone and about everything.
I am welcoming your idea of possibly embarrassing me with ALL MY SCELETONS...and "none of it is good"...
For some reason - you didn't answer A SINGLE question I asked as I gave you the opportunity to present me in "dark light"...
I answered you...I told you I had no real evidence. Just the rumours that float around. Honestly, must bother you a little how much the rumours go around. I can tell the BS ones, but my one friend I wont name his name, said how you jumped all over his shit. He made a compliment to you once, & you told him "& what the hell do you know?" as a response. He did say you were getting ready for a contest & may have been a little edgy. It was also outside of the gym & couldn't figure why you were so jumpy.
*** Is it businessman or business man?
Now - English is not my first language and I never went to school to learn it...What is your excuse? It s quite nice the way you spell it: businees...Way to go Knny!
Should we continue on my native language?
Go back to the posts....you spelled business..."businees"....& you live in the United States....learn English.
Native language? Who cares what your native language is....you're automatically assuming I'm American ;D
Besides I went to Europe and back twice in last three weeks, slept about 2 hours per night in average...and I have new laptop that I am not very familiar with...So - I am totally embarrassed with all of my misspelling...You got me there..
8) ;)
Well....I see you're not taking me serious....& you shouldn't. Dude...."message board"....get it?
Stop being so jumpy.
On a side note....you looked good from the pictures at the Grand Prix.....you need to get back on stage.
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Hey Milos and Luke you guys seem really cool and like genuine people with principals and big hearts. You got my support!
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Hey Milos and Luke you guys seem really cool and like genuine people with principals and big hearts. You got my support!
Yes !!!
Plus Milos has one of the greatest physique of all time
I have to post the pic of Milos owning Ronnie again :o
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Yes !!!
Plus Milos has one of the greatest physique of all time
I have to post the pic of Milos owning Ronnie again :o
Milos looks swole there. I have a kick ass chest and arms program to help him bring up the laggin parts. ;D
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Milos looks swole there. I have a kick ass chest and arms program to help him bring up the laggin parts. ;D
Chest!!! you must be kidding me! but i gather from the ;D you are.
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Milos the way you attack the message boards to what people say is the way your kid attacks those with a camera that do not take her picture. I guess that really says something about what goes on around you. relax dude the world is not against you, they are only questioning a person who puts himself out there on a daily basis. Learn to let so of the nonsense go.
-keep it real-
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Knny has been taking pics of cats again...
hahah.. MONSTER REFLECTION.. knny183, you half naked from waist down?
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Chest!!! you must be kidding me! but i gather from the ;D you are.
i saw milos up close at his peak and his pecs are very very good...
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Mustafa = A chickenshit son of a bitch
And deserve to have his ass kicked very hard, but in such way that no one would Know nothing about it!
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And deserve to have his ass kicked very hard, but in such way that no one would now nothing about it!
hit him in the head what difference is it gonna make he ain't no 007 brother...
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Chest!!! you must be kidding me! but i gather from the ;D you are.
Hey! I didn't even mention his other shortcomings.. *cough* calves *cough* but hey thats for another thread.
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Milos the way you attack the message boards to what people say is the way your kid attacks those with a camera that do not take her picture. I guess that really says something about what goes on around you. relax dude the world is not against you, they are only questioning a person who puts himself out there on a daily basis. Learn to let so of the nonsense go.
-keep it real-
Another brilliant post of yours "keep it real"... ::)
I chose to make myself available to the fans as I consider that we are all equal.
It is very easy for me (and everyone else) to ignore others and not to respond to certain questions, accusations..etc
As you can see - I respond to everyone (of course when my time permits) and to everything.
Getting in discussion with some of the "getbiggers" is a real challenge - as some of you are simply "not serious", not friendly, looking for meltdowns...and many chose to attack, insult, criticise...
When I answer to attacks and criticism - I get response that I need to relax...that I am jumpy...etc
When I chose to joke with some of you - than I am unprofessional...
In any way - IF YOU LOOK BACK - I don't insult back even when I am insulted...but when I simply defend myself as I ALWAYS CAN (have no skeletons or something to be ashamed of) - I am judged or "melting"...
So be it...
Contrary to many - I always try to make a point (it makes it so much more interesting to a listener when someone DOES MAKE A POINT) and also I focus on answering the questions (some of you just constantly avoid it).
In case of KNNY that is now "not serious" he called me out stating that word in So Cal is - don't give money to Milos and expected back...
I have no problem with that - but when you make such a statement - than I certainly hope you can back it up...
If nothing else - A SINGLE EXAMPLE would be nice...
I don't need to explain myself to anyone - but I simply NEVER ASK ANYONE FOR MONEY - so I would love to find out who is making such a claims...
Again - I don't need to - but I chose to give the "word of So Cal" a chance to publicly embarrass me...
Knny and keep-it-real find appropriate to tell me that I need to relax...My heart beat didn't raise a single beat...I simply accept his challenge to judge my personality.
I am a kid that first look if the camera is ON before I attack the camera for not taking the pics...And the last thing on my mind is that world is against me (interesting observation "keep it real") - as you said I am the person who puts myself out there (here on getbig) on the daily basis - and if someone questions me I hope I have the right to answer...Especially some nonsense that usually comes from hearsay...
Besides - you think that person who believes that word is against him would put himself available daily to the scrutiny of GETBIG members?
Confidence is quality many people lack...Arrogance is something completely different ;).
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am I? Whats wrong with simple name calling? ;D
you seem nervous....oops....maybe not.
So is gear use....wait a tick.....I forgot....you got scrips on all of those. ;D
it was a contradiction....ah hell...explaining it takes the fun out of it. :-\
depends on the medication & doseage.....right? :-*
well...I can't name names bro....thats what SR does ;D
(loose lips sink ships) :-*
DEA....won't say anything about that. Sometimes they will let things slide after getting a lead on bigger fish. You are probably innocent....Honestly.... I have said it before....I would have you train me if I could afford it. You know your shit. I am NO angel. I can't say I leave the most honest life. I am not running for a political seat either.
San Diego peeps I know are mostly the owners of the old Gold's gym that used to be. Some are personal trainers, the rest are just some lackeys that used to train there.
If you haven't figured me out.....I screw around a lot so taking me 100% serious is a mistake.....as this is a message board & has a great form of entertainment for people like me.
I will say I have run into a bunch of people that do say a lot of good shit about you. For some reason....they always ask me if I know you....I reply no but they say good things. One guy lately (can't remember his name) told me how you are a great guy, real friendly, & humble. He just got back from Japan doing MMA fighting. Short Hispanic guy, real nice, cordial.
I answered you...I told you I had no real evidence. Just the rumours that float around. Honestly, must bother you a little how much the rumours go around. I can tell the BS ones, but my one friend I wont name his name, said how you jumped all over his shit. He made a compliment to you once, & you told him "& what the hell do you know?" as a response. He did say you were getting ready for a contest & may have been a little edgy. It was also outside of the gym & couldn't figure why you were so jumpy.
Go back to the posts....you spelled business..."businees"....& you live in the United States....learn English.
Native language? Who cares what your native language is....you're automatically assuming I'm American ;D
Well....I see you're not taking me serious....& you shouldn't. Dude...."message board"....get it?
Stop being so jumpy.
On a side note....you looked good from the pictures at the Grand Prix.....you need to get back on stage.
As you said: "Well....I see you're not taking me serious....& you shouldn't" - there is no point of continuing this conversation...
BTW - I look back and didn't find where I misspelled the word business...Did you check yours?
Let me help you:
YOUR POST:
you like that?
Well...writing one line of truth on a message board (just to stir shit) sometimes is my businees. It's my form of entertainment at your expense.
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Milos,
do you think Jay deserved all 3 euro tour victories,
despite ronnie's improvment in condition?
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Milos,
do you think Jay deserved all 3 euro tour victories,
despite ronnie's improvment in condition?
It is nothing like "staying with the subject"...
This thread is about me being jerk - remember?
I will (NEXT WEEK) start HUGE discussion about judging...So - let me answer that question than...
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Another brilliant post of yours "keep it real"... ::)
I chose to make myself available to the fans as I consider that we are all equal.
It is very easy for me (and everyone else) to ignore others and not to respond to certain questions, accusations..etc
As you can see - I respond to everyone (of course when my time permits) and to everything.
Getting in discussion with some of the "getbiggers" is a real challenge - as some of you are simply "not serious", not friendly, looking for meltdowns...and many chose to attack, insult, criticise...
When I answer to attacks and criticism - I get response that I need to relax...that I am jumpy...etc
When I chose to joke with some of you - than I am unprofessional...
In any way - IF YOU LOOK BACK - I don't insult back even when I am insulted...but when I simply defend myself as I ALWAYS CAN (have no skeletons or something to be ashamed of) - I am judged or "melting"...
So be it...
Contrary to many - I always try to make a point (it makes it so much more interesting to a listener when someone DOES MAKE A POINT) and also I focus on answering the questions (some of you just constantly avoid it).
In case of KNNY that is now "not serious" he called me out stating that word in So Cal is - don't give money to Milos and expected back...
ok....technically....it wasn't So Cal per se...."Temecula" but stems down to your old roots in SD
I have no problem with that - but when you make such a statement - than I certainly hope you can back it up...
you mean rat people out.....?
If nothing else - A SINGLE EXAMPLE would be nice...
again...if it was an actual name or dollar amount....that would be ratting people out
I don't need to explain myself to anyone - but I simply NEVER ASK ANYONE FOR MONEY - so I would love to find out who is making such a claims...
Again - I don't need to - but I chose to give the "word of So Cal" a chance to publicly embarrass me...
Knny and keep-it-real find appropriate to tell me that I need to relax...My heart beat didn't raise a single beat...I simply accept his challenge to judge my personality.
Funny how you need me to provide evidence to publicly embarrass you....you're doing fine all by yourself.
;)
I am a kid that first look if the camera is ON before I attack the camera for not taking the pics...And the last thing on my mind is that world is against me (interesting observation "keep it real") - as you said I am the person who puts myself out there (here on getbig) on the daily basis - and if someone questions me I hope I have the right to answer...Especially some nonsense that usually comes from hearsay...
Besides - you think that person who believes that word is against him would put himself available daily to the scrutiny of GETBIG members?
Maybe you're just bored
Confidence is quality many people lack...Arrogance is something completely different ;).
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As you said: "Well....I see you're not taking me serious....& you shouldn't" - there is no point of continuing this conversation...
:)
BTW - I look back and didn't find where I misspelled the word business...Did you check yours?
Yeah....& you changed it. ::) Never seen somebody do that before ::)
"Too worried about your own damn businees"...and making your own judgements - enough to present to the world that word in So Cal is - never give Mishko money and expect it back....or a lot of people talk about you and none of it is good...
Let me help you:
YOUR POST:
you like that?
Well...writing one line of truth on a message board (just to stir shit) sometimes is my businees. It's my form of entertainment at your expense.
Well explain it then if you can. Do you think people are just trying to keep you down? and Why? (jealousy?)
Where you live & where you work....within these communities...there's a lot of people that have nothing better to do than sometimes gossip & spread rumours. I know there's alot of huge competition in these parts in the fintess industry & maybe it's a marketing strategy on their behalf to muddy the compeition. Mishko...most people see through that shit....as I even stated.... I would hire you regardless of what I hear. I can see through the BS. Just doesn't make sense of all the bad rumours....thats all.
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Milos you sure do have a right to speak your mind. But do try and remember that there is in fact a number of people around here that know you better than you might think. You have on several occassions in the past side step my observations about you where I speak the truth and instead rip into other who do not speak the truth-thats easy to to do, huh? Now that my friend "is an interesting observation". I put the comment out there about your daughter and the camera to give you some indication that I do know who you are up close. Care to comment? In fact I do know many of the pro BB's up close and am tired to see some of the spew that comes from thier mouths on a regular basis, thus I will help try and 1st keep it real around here.
-keep it real-
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*getting out popcorn*
*don't hold your breath*
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I am pretty sure Milos is 5'10 and 11.34/16th of an inch !
I will make a statement here: Milos will be top 5 at the 2007 Mr.Olympia !
mark my words cause those are the truth !
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Mr O top 5 only if there is muscle coming out of his biceps as opposed to oil. His time has come and gone. But his desire to be in the spotlight of BB continues.
To this end drugs and oil will contiue to be used to ensure he does not go small. Milos thrives the attention in all he does and he especially loves the fact that people gawk, stare and look at him differently than normal folk. Milos could never go done to the size of say levone and and live with himself. Sad but true add Milos to the getbig dead pool. Ok Milos lets see what spew comes from your mouth next. This ought to be good, now I will get my popcorn.
-keep it real-
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Excellent height!! He is the prototype tall, dark, and handsome BB (like Dennis Newman). Bear in mind, to me 5'10 is tall.
Yes, he could be top five if he so desired to compete again. He will be 43 in January.
5'10 is a shrimp matty... milos knows he was never ever top 5 in the world he simply didn't have the lat insertion for that. great bodybuilder though sure knew how to pose well IMO...
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Yeah....& you changed it. ::) Never seen somebody do that before ::)
Well explain it then if you can. Do you think people are just trying to keep you down? and Why? (jealousy?)
Where you live & where you work....within these communities...there's a lot of people that have nothing better to do than sometimes gossip & spread rumours. I know there's alot of huge competition in these parts in the fintess industry & maybe it's a marketing strategy on their behalf to muddy the compeition. Mishko...most people see through that shit....as I even stated.... I would hire you regardless of what I hear. I can see through the BS. Just doesn't make sense of all the bad rumours....thats all.
There is no point of beating the dead horse...
I asked you many times about the "rumors" and you would not answer it...
If I heard the rumors I would know what to say ...and it seems that you've heard many ("all the bad rumors")...but chose to protect "reliable source" (who is embarrassed to say that I still owe him money - as I just might remember it and pay him/her/it back...)
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There is no point of beating the dead horse...
I asked you many times about the "rumors" and you would not answer it...
If I heard the rumors I would know what to say ...and it seems that you've heard many ("all the bad rumors")...but chose to protect "reliable source" (who is embarrassed to say that I still owe him money - as I just might remember it and pay him/her/it back...)
No shit if you owe people cash as if they wouldn't be on your back about it? Not like you're connected or anything...
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Milos you sure do have a right to speak your mind. But do try and remember that there is in fact a number of people around here that know you better than you might think. You have on several occassions in the past side step my observations about you where I speak the truth and instead rip into other who do not speak the truth-thats easy to to do, huh? Now that my friend "is an interesting observation". I put the comment out there about your daughter and the camera to give you some indication that I do know who you are up close. Care to comment? In fact I do know many of the pro BB's up close and am tired to see some of the spew that comes from thier mouths on a regular basis, thus I will help try and 1st keep it real around here.
-keep it real-
Fact that number of people around here know me better than I might think is a real fact ::)...just as you are keep(ing) it real ::)
As I always back up what I say - I am giving you the opportunity to remind me how and when in the past I side step your observations - and what truth are you talking about?
You put the comment about some kid and the camera and now that kid suppose to be my daughter?
So what am I suppose to comment?
People like you that want to keep it real can start with saying their real name - it doesn't get better than that (as far as keeping it real).
On one side is me - with full responsability and accountability as I am posting under my name and on other side are keep-it real, knny, and many other's (that know me so much and have so many facts) that could not be even questioned - as they have OFF COURSE so many facts........ Anonymous always have so many accurate facts - they have to stay anonymous...
Here I am, Milos Sarcev, pro bodybuilder and gym owner - 6 days a week present in Koloseum Gym Fullerton (1101 South Placentia Avenue, Fullerton CA 92831) ready to face all the facts and rumors about me...
Talk is cheap and actions show much more than words - everything I do I stand behind it (as I did say about 1000 times)...so you guys can hit me with your best shots anytime and anyplace...
I treat everyone exactly as I want to be treated - and while I love people in general when someone crosses the line - off course I will show my teeth...Even bite - if I need to...
You are so full of facts that indeed you know so many pros up close - as you bring the magazine so close to your face - you can see them (us) clearly...
And by the way we look on those pics you know exactly how someone's daughter takes pictures or breaks the camera (I can't remember your point on that one...Actually, when I think again I don't remember you ever making a point - except stating so many facts ::))
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Mr O top 5 only if there is muscle coming out of his biceps as opposed to oil. His time has come and gone. But his desire to be in the spotlight of BB continues.
To this end drugs and oil will contiue to be used to ensure he does not go small. Milos thrives the attention in all he does and he especially loves the fact that people gawk, stare and look at him differently than normal folk. Milos could never go done to the size of say levone and and live with himself. Sad but true add Milos to the getbig dead pool. Ok Milos lets see what spew comes from your mouth next. This ought to be good, now I will get my popcorn.
-keep it real-
;D ;D ;D
I love the attention and especially love the FACT (another fact - off course) that people gawk and look at me differently...
So much so that since I started bodybuilding I never went shirtless or in the tank top in public...
What I have behind my cloths is what I want to have and I work over two decades to get it and maintain it...
You are right about one thing - I could never go down to the size of say Levrone as I chose to be exactly as I am.
Bring the popcorn and put your regular portion of butter - maybe you wish you can take that shirt off and actually not be embarrassed to say who you really are.
Truly confident people that love to keep it real should have no problem...The fact is - you are as real as all you facts...and just as much confident and secure as a person...Make sure to continue keeping it real and get few more facts while you are at it... ;)
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He's not bs-ing either. i attend koloseum on a regular basis. Milos is always there.
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He's not bs-ing either. i attend koloseum on a regular basis. Milos is always there.
Of course I am not bs-ing...I am keeping it real - and having all the facts.
Fact #1 - person that chose to criticize but stay anonymous have less than two testicles...and possibly even less than one...
Fact #2 - same person will be so courageous behind his/her user name - he/she/he-she (depending on the number of the testicles) will continue to talk the tough talk...as that's the ONLY thing he/she/he-she can do...(besides looking over their shoulder and watching if their shadow is ready to attack them...)
Fact #3 ...for the next batch of popcorn and "I can't believe it's not butter"...
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No shit if you owe people cash as if they wouldn't be on your back about it? Not like you're connected or anything...
You think?
You are sure they wouldn't just say to someone that certain person owes them money but they don't want that to be known?
Think again...
Imagine what happens if someone rats them out to that certain person...
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Dear Milos,
I am a big fan. The shit-talkers are below you. You probably realize that you have everything any person could want in life, but i'll remind you anyways. A family, perfect body, thriving business, millions of dollars(?) and not to mention a gorgeous wife. You are living a normal man's dream.
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Milos was my favourite bodybuilder till the synthol incident.
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Dear Milos,
I am a big fan. The shit-talkers are below you. You probably realize that you have everything any person could want in life, but i'll remind you anyways. A family, perfect body, thriving business, millions of dollars(?) and not to mention a gorgeous wife. You are living a normal man's dream.
Thanks.
I do realize what I have and more importantly who I am.
I also constantly communicate with all sorts of people and I don't mind at all "shit-talkers" and miserable souls...They are people too...
I show them my love by communicating with them and helping them realize their insecurities...
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Milos was my favourite bodybuilder till the synthol incident.
Me too. ;)
Next time I step on stage it will be no signs of synthol...It took me 5 years and I think I am ready to step on stage as I was BEFORE that horrible mistake...
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Me too. ;)
Next time I step on stage it will be no signs of synthol...It took me 5 years and I think I am ready to step on stage as I was BEFORE that horrible mistake...
good luck
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Good luck indeed. With today's pro lineup I think you can win some shows as opposed to the 90's when top 5 at the Olympia back then could win the O nowadays.
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Good luck indeed. With today's pro lineup I think you can win some shows as opposed to the 90's when top 5 at the Olympia back then could win the O nowadays.
the guys today are way beyond the 90's size wise besides yates... yates at his best would still kick ass
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In the past - Shawn VS Milos
Current - Knny187 VS Milos
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Funny stuff Milos. Rant all you will.
You are a smart guy however you have got the inability to converse with anybody who may have a different view than you. Sure you will listen but in the end just as you do on this board it will always be your word that ends the converstion.
Try and twist all you will change the words, topic and scene all you want but in the end its all the same. You require the attention of all who surround you for free or for money. You have got to be the one to be seen and to be heard. As a bodybuilder that means keeping your size and to do this means continuing with the drugs. In another thread I mentioned that you were still putting oil in your calfs and biceps after your horrible leg accident, you side stepped it. Fine. If you say you were not putting oil of some kind in those muscles at any time after the accident you are just bsing yourself. You know what? That is fine to. I know you will say prove it. Thats fine to. You say you never lie about anything. So say you did not put any kind of oil in your biceps or calfs after the accident and lets see where this goes. I am not challenging you at all, only calling you on what you put out there, mainly the fact that you have got nothing to hide.
Now go kiss your daughter Aleksansdra(sp?) goodnight and ask yourself if the renetless amount of anabolics you put in your system without a break is going to do anything for her in the long term. You have got a beautifully intelligent daughter by the way. Hopefully she can be herself one day as opposed to a beaty queen requiring her picture taken at every moment that you and Mom have made her out to be.
-keep it real-
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There is no point of beating the dead horse...
I asked you many times about the "rumors" and you would not answer it...
If I heard the rumors I would know what to say ...and it seems that you've heard many ("all the bad rumors")...but chose to protect "reliable source" (who is embarrassed to say that I still owe him money - as I just might remember it and pay him/her/it back...)
I tell you what Mishko......
Next time someone comes to me with these rumours....I'll ask for specifics. I usually don't have the need to know specifics unless it's me thats involved....but IF I obtain some information for you....I'll pass it your way.
I'll present the information obtained....you can do the rest. I still may or may not be able to give you names...but you may be able to gather it from the learned information.
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In the past - Shawn VS Milos
Current - Knny187 VS Milos
not at all.....I'm not against him.
I'm just calling him out on things & he's doing the same.
Peaceful Adult conversation here.
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Me too. ;)
Next time I step on stage it will be no signs of synthol...It took me 5 years and I think I am ready to step on stage as I was BEFORE that horrible mistake...
Is it true what they say about synthol use.....that you lose control, growth, & stimulation of the muscle injected?
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Funny stuff Milos. Rant all you will.
You are a smart guy however you have got the inability to converse with anybody who may have a different view than you. Sure you will listen but in the end just as you do on this board it will always be your word that ends the converstion.
Try and twist all you will change the words, topic and scene all you want but in the end its all the same. You require the attention of all who surround you for free or for money. You have got to be the one to be seen and to be heard. As a bodybuilder that means keeping your size and to do this means continuing with the drugs. In another thread I mentioned that you were still putting oil in your calfs and biceps after your horrible leg accident, you side stepped it. Fine. If you say you were not putting oil of some kind in those muscles at any time after the accident you are just bsing yourself. You know what? That is fine to. I know you will say prove it. Thats fine to. You say you never lie about anything. So say you did not put any kind of oil in your biceps or calfs after the accident and lets see where this goes. I am not challenging you at all, only calling you on what you put out there, mainly the fact that you have got nothing to hide.
Now go kiss your daughter Aleksansdra(sp?) goodnight and ask yourself if the renetless amount of anabolics you put in your system without a break is going to do anything for her in the long term. You have got a beautifully intelligent daughter by the way. Hopefully she can be herself one day as opposed to a beaty queen requiring her picture taken at every moment that you and Mom have made her out to be.
-keep it real-
Funny stuff? Rant all I want?
I am simply pointing out the obvious and challenging you scary cat that can't even come out of the mouse hole you stick yourself in...
It is great being free - walking and talking to anyone as YOURSELF...being accountable and standing behind everything you say or do...
What are you doing?
Hiding in the hole and stating facts what your prospective on life looks like as you are watching from that same (mouse) hole you put yourself in...
I have GREAT ability to converse and with normal civilized people even in case of the difference of our opinions I can have great conversation...
For people like you who can't answer any question that you are being asked - I certainly can't converse - as you would not agree with me but have nothing to prove me wrong...
Did you ever wonder why I have the last word?
Ask yourself that question and you might get the answer for everything that concerns me...
I am NEVER afraid to get in conversation with anyone and about anything (even here on getbig where a lot of people judge me or dislike me - JUST BECAUSE...).
That should also tell you something about me.
With all my busyschedule I certainly don't have commodity to answer to everyone and everything - but I believe I didn't left ONE QUESTION unanswered here on this board (correct me if I am wrong)...
And that is exactly where you confuse my need to be heard and seen and attention seeking...
Some people value what I have to say and who I really am - and they come to me on daily bases...
If I can keep the conversation with someone like you (who doesn't wish me any good and continues to insult even my 9 year old daughter...) than think about who and what am I all about.
Another thing is - did you ever think about actually approaching me and starting conversation with me?
Obviously you are sometimes in my presence - check downstairs and see if you still have some testicles and the day you find them come and introduce yourself - until than stay in that hole - it must be very roomy over there...
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I tell you what Mishko......
Next time someone comes to me with these rumours....I'll ask for specifics. I usually don't have the need to know specifics unless it's me thats involved....but IF I obtain some information for you....I'll pass it your way.
I'll present the information obtained....you can do the rest. I still may or may not be able to give you names...but you may be able to gather it from the learned information.
I tell you what Knny - next time you hear "voice of co Cal" that tells you a rumor - do you think you should - publicly state the rumor and make believe that you agree with the rumor - trying to belittle the person in question...or do you think you should ask for some more details - before you make your opinion?
Example of what you've heard cannot be better for me to use.
I DO NOT OWE MONEY TO A SINGLE PERSON ON THIS WORLD - yet the rumor is - don't give money to Milos and expect it back... ::)
And if someone tells you that I owe him money - can you explain why would that person have something against you publicly stating the name and the amount?
That just makes no sense at all...
But than - you say - don't take me seriously...
Well, I prefer serious conversations most of the time - as those are productive conversations...
Joking is great but it should be kept as a joke...
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I tell you what Knny - next time you hear "voice of co Cal" that tells you a rumor - do you think you should - publicly state the rumor and make believe that you agree with the rumor - trying to belittle the person in question...or do you think you should ask for some more details - before you make your opinion?
Example of what you've heard cannot be better for me to use.
I DO NOT OWE MONEY TO A SINGLE PERSON ON THIS WORLD - yet the rumor is - don't give money to Milos and expect it back... ::)
And if someone tells you that I owe him money - can you explain why would that person have something against you publicly stating the name and the amount?
That just makes no sense at all...
But than - you say - don't take me seriously...
Well, I prefer serious conversations most of the time - as those are productive conversations...
Joking is great but it should be kept as a joke...
Maybe you paid those people back....but took a long time doing so....or had to be bugged constantly in repaying the debt.
Those are possibilities...not that you haven't paid back the debt. Hence the term in question is "do not lend you money".
I have heard people say that you're not one known for actively or promptly repaying your debt....but hell.....a lot of people are that way. Really, it's just a phone call away to figure all this out & honestly, this could be really something in the past. I believe people are allowed redemption & sometimes have hard times. Maybe you had areas in your past (like all of us) we're not so proud of.
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Not too many people call me Mishko nowadays - so knny187 must be some of my old acquaintances...
Now - can you tell me a single person that landed me a money?
My problem with Mustafa is that after giving him a lot of money and paying for just about everything he asked me for additional loan that would save his gym, family, kids...etc...
After lending him the money (CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT) he simply forgot to pay me back...
Also he threaten me over the phone that he is going to kill me if I tell this to anyone...
That was the reason I publicly made comment in the first place.
Since than I managed to collect some of the money back - by going back stage at the San Francisco (Mustafa called security to come and protect him...) show where he got some prize money.
I also collected his earnings in Australian Grand Prix.
At the Olympia this year I was in the same hotel and after he checked in I waited outside for him to ask him WHEN does he plan to give me the rest of the money...
After few words he took his bag off his shoulders as he looked that he wanted to fight me.
As I had my hands full - I also lower everything I had to the ground and charged at him...
He started yelling POLICE, POLICE...so loudly that many people came out.
He told few people that this maniac wants to kill him - and they should report IF anything happened that Milos Sarcev killed him?!?!
I told the guys that I was simply asking him for the money he owes me and he started telling that it is me who owes him a money and not the other way around??
After that I tried to avoid him but he constantly tried to approach me and start the conversation with me...(in front of Kris Dim , Vince Taylor...etc...)
Anyway, to make long story short - pics in Austria were taken at the Athletes meeting when I approached him to ask for $4000 that he received at the Olympia...He started AGAIN beating around the bush and actually called me some names...
Out of respect to the IFBB, promotor and the athletes - I just walked away...
In the mean time - promotor of the Austrian Grand Prix requested that Mustafa would NOT be allowed to compete - as he OWES MONEY to many people - including the promotor of the show Daniel Hoelzl...
He said that he knows A LOT OF PEOPLE in Austria, Germany, Switzerland...etc who Mustafa played - just like me...
Promotor of the Dutch Grand Prix is just another victim of sweet innocent Mustafa...
His name is Monder Bennour and he could also confirm how Mustafa scams people - who actually sincerely help him...
Now - do I need to go on the net and make myself look bad by revealing some private issues - NO I DON'T...BUT I CHOOSE TO DO SO - for the sake of Mustafa's next few victims...
He does put incredible act and people feel so sorry for him that they almost feel obligated to help poor Mustafa in quest to feed his family...
In the mean time he does have apartments in Jordan, Austria and who knows what else - all paid by people like me, Monder, Daniel...and dozens of others...
Milos I can see why you posted what you did about Mustafa, I would have done the same thing.....
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Milos,
Not to get off point but the way I see it, your legs/calves were always Mr. Olympia caliber, as was your shape. Your only weakness was your arms. Without the synthol, they were full but relatively flat, lacking in height/peak. We all know the synthol fiasco, so my question is this: With the synthol out, and time having passed, how do your arms look now? Is there scarring within the muscle? Any chance of a sneak preview of a bicep shot?
Thanks!
Special "KLA" Ed
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It is nothing like "staying with the subject"...
This thread is about me being jerk - remember?
I will (NEXT WEEK) start HUGE discussion about judging...So - let me answer that question than...
Milos,
The topic of this thread is somewhat subpar and provides little value (entertainment or otherwise)
that being said, I am looking forward to your discussion next week.
hopefully it will include some commentary on both the olympia and euro tour judging,
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Maybe you paid those people back....but took a long time doing so....or had to be bugged constantly in repaying the debt.
Those are possibilities...not that you haven't paid back the debt. Hence the term in question is "do not lend you money".
I have heard people say that you're not one known for actively or promptly repaying your debt....but hell.....a lot of people are that way. Really, it's just a phone call away to figure all this out & honestly, this could be really something in the past. I believe people are allowed redemption & sometimes have hard times. Maybe you had areas in your past (like all of us) we're not so proud of.
Maybe YOU made the rumor yourself?
First you supposedly didn't want to point out who is poor guy that I owe money to (as that guy would be really mad at you that you tried to collect money for him by reminding me to pay him back...)
Now - MAYBE I paid those (MORE THAN ONE?) people back...and everything is cool...
Well, that's another mistake you made - as I am not just the guy that don't owe money to anyone...I also don't borrow money from anyone as I am raised that way.
So your assumption that every human might have a case of borrowing money was just a bad choice for the rumor about me.
I came out here to warn people about Mustafa - AS HE IS SUCESSFULLY RIPPING OFF NUMEROUS PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.
So I want to make sure I do something about it.
As I am a victim of his ACT (and he is master of acting so poor and innocent I see many people being vulnerable to his sincere tears of father who is just trying hard to feed his kids and need some money as IFBB judges are so cruel and can't overlook that he is only30 pounds overweight...and would not place him on the money...)
You Knny tried to be a smartass and make me equal to Mustafa - but wasn't 100 % sure of the rumor yet still found the need to present me to masses like NO BETTER THAN Mustafa...
Now - everything makes sense...
You don't want to reveal the name of the person who I supposedly owe money to - as that person exist only in your imaginary story...
In the mean time I love how you are concluding that I am embarrassing myself with all my posts...
Well, as you see I have no problem continuing ...
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It is nothing like "staying with the subject"...
This thread is about me being jerk - remember?
I will (NEXT WEEK) start HUGE discussion about judging...So - let me answer that question than...
Judging sucks man.
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Maybe YOU made the rumor yourself?
First you supposedly didn't want to point out who is poor guy that I owe money to (as that guy would be really mad at you that you tried to collect money for him by reminding me to pay him back...)
Now - MAYBE I paid those (MORE THAN ONE?) people back...and everything is cool...
Well, that's another mistake you made - as I am not just the guy that don't owe money to anyone...I also don't borrow money from anyone as I am raised that way.
So your assumption that every human might have a case of borrowing money was just a bad choice for the rumor about me.
I came out here to warn people about Mustafa - AS HE IS SUCESSFULLY RIPPING OFF NUMEROUS PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.
So I want to make sure I do something about it.
As I am a victim of his ACT (and he is master of acting so poor and innocent I see many people being vulnerable to his sincere tears of father who is just trying hard to feed his kids and need some money as IFBB judges are so cruel and can't overlook that he is only30 pounds overweight...and would not place him on the money...)
You Knny tried to be a smartass and make me equal to Mustafa - but wasn't 100 % sure of the rumor yet still found the need to present me to masses like NO BETTER THAN Mustafa...
Now - everything makes sense...
You don't want to reveal the name of the person who I supposedly owe money to - as that person exist only in your imaginary story...
In the mean time I love how you are concluding that I am embarrassing myself with all my posts...
Well, as you see I have no problem continuing ...
Ok..so....
deep breathe.....
a rumour that may have merit & truth behind it (about you)....you don't like because you need to prove that Mustafa is the guy in the industry that has a debt paying problem?
So when I state I know a few peeps that say "Mishko" has a problem of not paying or promptly paying off his debts....
You needs names? Why....Are you going to chase them down & threathen them? Maybe there's another reason why they should stay anonymous. We all know how the legal system works very slow looking into an assault case. Hell, certain people could be in the hospital or coroners before they even look at the case. The police are there to protect the public...but can't do it on a 24 hr basis. People could also look into your past....& see there's been some issues (ex). ;)
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Ok..so....
deep breathe.....
a rumour that may have merit & truth behind it (about you)....you don't like because you need to prove that Mustafa is the guy in the industry that has a debt paying problem?
So when I state I know a few peeps that say "Mishko" has a problem of not paying or promptly paying off his debts....
You needs names? Why....Are you going to chase them down & threathen them? Maybe there's another reason why they should stay anonymous. We all know how the legal system works very slow looking into an assault case. Hell, certain people could be in the hospital or coroners before they even look at the case. The police are there to protect the public...but can't do it on a 24 hr basis. People could also look into your past....& see there's been some issues (ex). ;)
My dog has more common sense and logic than you...
First of all ONLY someone with questionable character can assume that I would chase someone down and assult them...FOR WHAT?
For saying that I owe them money?
Like I said even my dog would know better than that.
It is not about me liking or dislikingsomething you said - I am responsible guy that wants to clear my name IF I am called out.
I have no problem about ANY rumor (I haven't heard too many...and YOUR rumor could not be any further from the truth - as simply I NEVER borrow money - period).
Not that it matters...borrowing money is not something MAJOR - anyway...but it is mater of principal.
If you are calling me out - than back up your claims...
I hope I can at least ask people who tell stories about me - WHAT ARE THEY RELLY TALKING ABOUT.
So if I owe money to anyone - I would pay it back - WITH THE INTEREST.
Problem is (as it is MORE THAN OBVIOUS) - you made that story up...and it looks like you have some more - so here I go again: please tell more stories and rumors...I am sure SOME people will love to hear it.
What will be now?
I like to fly when I sleep?
I hope I am not breaking the speed limit in my dreams at least...
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My dog has more common sense and logic than you...
First of all ONLY someone with questionable character can assume that I would chase someone down and assult them...FOR WHAT?
For saying that I owe them money?
Like I said even my dog would know better than that.
It is not about me liking or dislikingsomething you said - I am responsible guy that wants to clear my name IF I am called out.
I have no problem about ANY rumor (I haven't heard too many...and YOUR rumor could not be any further from the truth - as simply I NEVER borrow money - period).
Not that it matters...borrowing money is not something MAJOR - anyway...but it is mater of principal.
If you are calling me out - than back up your claims...
I hope I can at least ask people who tell stories about me - WHAT ARE THEY RELLY TALKING ABOUT.
So if I owe money to anyone - I would pay it back - WITH THE INTEREST.
Problem is (as it is MORE THAN OBVIOUS) - you made that story up...and it looks like you have some more - so here I go again: please tell more stories and rumors...I am sure SOME people will love to hear it.
What will be now?
I like to fly when I sleep?
I hope I am not breaking the speed limit in my dreams at least...
My cat talked to your dog.....
& found out that your dog's not happy....at all.
First of all....your dog wants you to stop giving crap in the bag for food.
Second...Stop the unnecessary & unwanted fondling.....there is other ways to show love & affection to a pet.
Third....you borrowed your dogs favorite toy.....& would like it back.
I'm not calling you out.....just stating what people say.....
"Don't lend Mishko money"
;D
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Let me tell you something about MISKO as you call him. I am very good friends with the man and yet out of respect i have never called him MISKO!!! Milos will do just fine for you! Now, i would also love to here the people that Milos owes money too?? why send out such an accusation and just leave it that?? do tell! I will tell you something, knowing Milos like i do i would give him everything i have if he needed it!! EVERYTHING! Why?? because Milos would burn his gym down before he owes money to anyone! But as a friend i would give him everything anyway, god knows the man has done enough for me and all bodybuilding for NOTHING!
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Let me tell you something about MISKO as you call him. I am very good friends with the man and yet out of respect i have never called him MISKO!!! Milos will do just fine for you! Now, i would also love to here the people that Milos owes money too?? why send out such an accusation and just leave it that?? do tell! I will tell you something, knowing Milos like i do i would give him everything i have if he needed it!! EVERYTHING! Why?? because Milos would burn his gym down before he owes money to anyone! But as a friend i would give him everything anyway, god knows the man has done enough for me and all bodybuilding for NOTHING!
Milos is the real deal from when I met him many years ago... He'll tell you to your face if he doesn't agree with you
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Let me tell you something about MISKO as you call him. I am very good friends with the man and yet out of respect i have never called him MISKO!!! Milos will do just fine for you! Now, i would also love to here the people that Milos owes money too?? why send out such an accusation and just leave it that?? do tell! I will tell you something, knowing Milos like i do i would give him everything i have if he needed it!! EVERYTHING! Why?? because Milos would burn his gym down before he owes money to anyone! But as a friend i would give him everything anyway, god knows the man has done enough for me and all bodybuilding for NOTHING!
Hey big dumb bodybuilder type....it's Mishko...not Misko ::)
You're really that not that bright are you?
oh.....
I mean "bright" as in....
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Glorious; splendid: one of the bright stars of stage and screen; a bright moment in history.
Full of promise and hope; auspicious: had a bright future in publishing.
Animatedly clever; intelligent.
not "bright"
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Emitting or reflecting light readily or in large amounts; shining.
Comparatively high on the scale of brightness.
Full of light or illumination: a bright sunny day; a stage bright with spotlights.
Characterizing a dyestuff that produces a highly saturated color; brilliant.
Hope this helps
;)
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Hey big dumb bodybuilder type....it's Mishko...not Misko ::)
You're really that not that bright are you?
oh.....
I mean "bright" as in....
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Glorious; splendid: one of the bright stars of stage and screen; a bright moment in history.
Full of promise and hope; auspicious: had a bright future in publishing.
Animatedly clever; intelligent.
not "bright"
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Emitting or reflecting light readily or in large amounts; shining.
Comparatively high on the scale of brightness.
Full of light or illumination: a bright sunny day; a stage bright with spotlights.
Characterizing a dyestuff that produces a highly saturated color; brilliant.
Hope this helps
;)
luke is a hard working pro bodybuilder with a good attitude and some loyality and you have 16000 posts on getbig to show for yourself?
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luke is a hard working pro bodybuilder with a good attitude and some loyality and you have 16000 posts on getbig to show for yourself?
good god son.....
you just murdered the English grammar system
;)
Good job...you just achieved something without trying!
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good god son.....
you just murdered the English grammar system
;)
Good job...you just achieved something without trying!
i'm not english so who cares...
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i'm not english so who cares...
whew....... ;D
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whew....... ;D
the english behave like little boys around here away from their crews back at home trust me...
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the english behave like little boys around here away from their crews back at home trust me...
ok...I'll trust you....just don't borrow money from Milos
;)
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ok...I'll trust you....just don't borrow money from Milos
;)
mate if he wants to give ME some money he is welcome!
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mate if he wants to give ME some money he is welcome!
he'll hunt you down & say you didn't repay him.....even if you did
;)
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he'll hunt you down & say you didn't repay him.....even if you did
;)
I'd have a receipt to prove any repayments if they were made... I even had a contract with a family member over a loan once...
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My cat talked to your dog.....
& found out that your dog's not happy....at all.
First of all....your dog wants you to stop giving crap in the bag for food.
Second...Stop the unnecessary & unwanted fondling.....there is other ways to show love & affection to a pet.
Third....you borrowed your dogs favorite toy.....& would like it back.
I'm not calling you out.....just stating what people say.....
"Don't lend Mishko money"
;D
And that's where I cross the line and forget who/what Knny is and what he is saying - as it became painfull to read all his excuses, nonsense and lies...
I did give you a chance Knny - but no longer...
When you grow up and get some sense - maybe you will realize how stupid you sound and how see-through you really are...
But, you can continue to hide behind your user name and talk "tough talk" calling Luke and other bodybuilders dumb and "bright"...
Have a nice life ;)
I have nothing more to say to you - I said enough...
But, when you get a real job and save enough money to possibly hire me (as you said you would IF YOU HAD ENOUGH MONEY ::)) - just mention who you are and I will give you a special discount.
Until than don't bother continuing with your story - as it is obvious even to your cat that her "master" is full of "kaka"...
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I'd have a receipt to prove any repayments if they were made... I even had a contract with a family member over a loan once...
ok...nevermind.....remin d me never to borrow money from you.
;)
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ok...nevermind.....remind me never to borrow money from you.
;)
I help out friends all I can but I NEVER give them money on principle anymore...
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And that's where I cross the line and forget who/what Knny is and what he is saying - as it became painfull to read all his excuses, nonsense and lies...
I did give you a chance Knny - but no longer...
When you grow up and get some sense - maybe you will realize how stupid you sound and how see-though you really are...
But, you can continue to hide behind your user name and talk "tough talk" calling Luke and other bodybuilders dumb and "bright"...
Are you confirming that I "shouldn't" use the word "bright" in the same sentence with Luke's name?
;D
You're right....we shouldn't call him bright.
;D
Have a nice life ;)
I have nothing more to say to you - I said enough...
what's this...the third time you said this?
I lost count ;)
But, when you get a real job and save enough money to possibly hire me (as you said you would IF YOU HAD ENOUGH MONEY ::)) - just mention who you are and I will give you a special discount.
Hey thanks buddy!
Until than don't bother continuing with your story - as it is obvious even to your cat that her "master" is full of "kaka"...
But at least my cat likes me.
;D
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I help out friends all I can but I NEVER give them money on principle anymore...
Good Advice....
Friend of mind is currently out $25k to "friends".
He's sure one day they'll pay him back....but I told him to write it off already as it's been over a year.
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Good Advice....
Friend of mind is currently out $25k to "friends".
He's sure one day they'll pay him back....but I told him to write it off already as it's been over a year.
$25K!!!
I once hounded an old "friend" for 3 years to get back $500!!!
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$25K!!!
I once hounded an old "friend" for 3 years to get back $500!!!
25k towards real estate investments.
He let them borrow 25k just to help them out. Didn't even have a cut in it. Just was trying to help them get started. They made their money...but haven't made an effort to pay back the person who got them started.
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25k towards real estate investments.
He let them borrow 25k just to help them out. Didn't even have a cut in it. Just was trying to help them get started. They made their money...but haven't made an effort to pay back the person who got them started.
So they actually got their return already and haven't paid him back yet?
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So they actually got their return already and haven't paid him back yet?
Nope...but as Milos would say.....I'm sure they're working on it.
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Nope...but as Milos would say.....I'm sure they're working on it.
someone in their family must have a tangible asset worth $25K.
He should have had them sign that across as an assurance - if they really intended to pay him back they would have signed something over to him...
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someone in their family must have a tangible asset worth $25K.
He should have had them sign that across as an assurance - if they really intended to pay him back they would have signed something over to him...
it's the whole "promise" by word
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it's the whole "promise" by word
that dont mean shit now a days
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it's the whole "promise" by word
well he is screwed then... end of the day people look out for number one especially when it comes to money...
women are the worst at it too btw
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that dont mean shit now a days
very true
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well he is screwed then... end of the day people look out for number one especially when it comes to money...
women are the worst at it too btw
well....my friend is a very trust worthy person. In the same situation again, he still would do it. He's already basically written it off, but hopes someday they'll repay him. He's more worried about the friendship & people coming through on their word than the actual money being lost. Btw...he's not "multi-millionare" wealthy & the money he has was all earned from scratch. I was friends with him when he had no money to his name & no real debt but a $7000 balance on a credit card.
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Milos, if you are really as upstanding with your monetary relationships as you sound, you need not be so defensive. However, all those whom I have had business dealings with that become defensive upon confrontation regarding their ethic have been the very ones who end up not having the ethic they so ardently defend. I think this is the point Knny is trying to make w/ this thread...Mustafa hasn't once tried to defend himself, yet I'm sure he's online.
holy SHIT!!!
you figured it out
;D
Someone actually saw through my obscure way of going about it.
;)
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knny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you make me a mike vick avatar oh great avatar god?
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Milos, if you are really as upstanding with your monetary relationships as you sound, you need not be so defensive. However, all those whom I have had business dealings with that become defensive upon confrontation regarding their ethic have been the very ones who end up not having the ethic they so ardently defend. I think this is the point Knny is trying to make w/ this thread...Mustafa hasn't once tried to defend himself, yet I'm sure he's online.
How am I being defensive?
By answering to the "charge"?
By making myself available to answer to anyone that has something to say about me?
It is very easy to ignore everyone and NOT to respond to the questions that could be "uncomfortable"...
If I have something to hide and IF I am afraid that someone REALLY did give me the money and I didn't pay them back - I would probably be silent...
But, when someone accuse me of something - instead of attacking them I politely said - OK if that is the case - go ahead and tell me WHO it is and what amount we are talking about...
So - people can see IF I am guilty as charged...
Now, as far as Mustafa (and I see that you are his fan) - YES he is on boards reading all this - and guess why he is not responding?
It is interesting how some of you judge someone who is standing up and making himself available to answer any questions (like I did in this case) as being defensive...
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Hey big dumb bodybuilder type....it's Mishko...not Misko ::)
You're really that not that bright are you?
oh.....
I mean "bright" as in....
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Glorious; splendid: one of the bright stars of stage and screen; a bright moment in history.
Full of promise and hope; auspicious: had a bright future in publishing.
Animatedly clever; intelligent.
not "bright"
(brīt)
adj., bright·er, bright·est.
Emitting or reflecting light readily or in large amounts; shining.
Comparatively high on the scale of brightness.
Full of light or illumination: a bright sunny day; a stage bright with spotlights.
Characterizing a dyestuff that produces a highly saturated color; brilliant.
Hope this helps
;)
Pussy cat! i have only ever seen it spelt MISKO!!! But who really cares about the spelling??? the point was clear. Im not here to write a novel. just say hello to loyal fans and back friends up when needed.
Answer this
YOUR NAME?
YOUR BACKGROUND?
YOUR STATS?
YOUR CONTEST HISTORY?
YOUR EVIDNECE ON THE BULLSHOT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO MILOS?
WHY WAS'NT I THE RESULT OF A HAND JOB INSTEAD OF A HUMAN CREATION???? ;D ;D
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knny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you make me a mike vick avatar oh great avatar god?
Mick Vick?
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How am I being defensive?
By answering to the "charge"?
By making myself available to answer to anyone that has something to say about me?
It is very easy to ignore everyone and NOT to respond to the questions that could be "uncomfortable"...
If I have something to hide and IF I am afraid that someone REALLY did give me the money and I didn't pay them back - I would probably be silent...
But, when someone accuse me of something - instead of attacking them I politely said - OK if that is the case - go ahead and tell me WHO it is and what amount we are talking about...
So - people can see IF I am guilty as charged...
Now, as far as Mustafa (and I see that you are his fan) - YES he is on boards reading all this - and guess why he is not responding?
It is interesting how some of you judge someone who is standing up and making himself available to answer any questions (like I did in this case) as being defensive...
Liar liar pants on fire
;D
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Easy enough to tell knny: "Thanks for your opinion, but that's not how I operate." And be done.
The thread would have ended a couple days ago and fallen off the first page.
you would think.....
but not Mishko.
He has something to prove - lol
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Easy enough to tell knny: "Thanks for your opinion, but that's not how I operate." And be done.
The thread would have ended a couple days ago and fallen off the first page.
And that would clear my name?
Contrary to others - I respond when I am called out...
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I agree. It's a no win situation. So you gotta know when to just drop it.
People have no memory of what's not directly in front of them...since this is above the fold constantly, people are constantly reminded...both of Mustafa (for good or ill) and you (also for good or for ill).
No...There is a WIN SITUATION...and that is when you simply WIN!
And when you win (or prove something) THAT'S the time to stop...
At least - that's how I live my life.
And as far as people being reminded - that's exactly the goal...My goal that is.. ;)
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Pussy cat! i have only ever seen it spelt MISKO!!! But who really cares about the spelling??? the point was clear. Im not here to write a novel. just say hello to loyal fans and back friends up when needed.
Answer this
YOUR NAME?
YOUR BACKGROUND?
YOUR STATS?
YOUR CONTEST HISTORY?
YOUR EVIDNECE ON THE BULLSHOT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO MILOS?
WHY WAS'NT I THE RESULT OF A HAND JOB INSTEAD OF A HUMAN CREATION???? ;D ;D
He Mishko.....
tell him he's wrong
loser
bwuahahahahahahaha
lololololololoz
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Pussy cat! i have only ever seen it spelt MISKO!!! But who really cares about the spelling??? the point was clear. Im not here to write a novel. just say hello to loyal fans and back friends up when needed.
Answer this
YOUR NAME?
YOUR BACKGROUND?
YOUR STATS?
YOUR CONTEST HISTORY?
YOUR EVIDNECE ON THE BULLSHOT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO MILOS?
WHY WAS'NT I THE RESULT OF A HAND JOB INSTEAD OF A HUMAN CREATION???? ;D ;D
Luke,
In Serbian language it is MISKO (with a little "v" on top of S - which makes it SH...)
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And that would clear my name?
Contrary to others - I respond when I am called out...
& we love people like you......
call'm out buddy!
;)
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Mick Vick?
the atlanta falcons qb
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Luke,
In Serbian language it is MISKO (with a little "v" on top of S - which makes it SH...)
;D
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the atlanta falcons qb
ok...so now I know that.....what do you want?
A video avatar of him playing?
If I find a clip somewhere....i'll make it.
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you would think.....
but not Mishko.
He has something to prove - lol
Off course. That's what separates man from buys (or chickens)...
Posting under your real name...and proving what we claim...
Can you say the same?
No name (wonder why?) and no proof of anything you claimed (double wonder why?)
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Off course. That's what separates man from buys (or chickens)...
Posting under your real name...and proving what we claim...
Can you say the same?
No name (wonder why?) and no proof of anything you claimed (double wonder why?)
My name is buy....like in best buy.
::)
Giving you my name & my friends names (as explained) will only get you to come knocking on the door with an assault charge.
and Mishko....
nobody cares but you!
;D
People like you have noooooooooo control. ;)
As said by one of your old ex's
:o ;D :-*
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But whatever. Dig your own hole. I was trying to help.
Mishko can't see that.....he's blinded by rage......ooops.....did I just say that?
;D
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If Mustafa is reading all this (like Milos said he was), then Mustafa has a whole hell more self-control and wisdom as to how to "play the game". And, apparently knows Milos all too well -- realizing he's just going to dig his own hole as he is doing now.
Cudos Mustafa! Good chess player.
God knows, it's got to be hard to stand by and have people call him "fat" and a con-artist.
Checkmate
;)
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ok...so now I know that.....what do you want?
A video avatar of him playing?
If I find a clip somewhere....i'll make it.
that would be great your the man
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Milos is tenacious though you have to admit!
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Your reputation should stand on it's own among your business associates. Knny isn't one of them. No one on this board is one of them -- other than the people in the industry with whom you already have a relationship. If you're worried about clearing your name for Adonis, don't.
You ever heard of the Chineese Finger Trap? The winner is actually the person who "looses".
But whatever. Dig your own hole. I was trying to help.
My reputation is exactly that MY reputation...
For me Adonis, Knny, Arnold, president Bush...or anyone else ARE THE SAME.
I don't classify people into more important or worthy of my time and effort...
Millioners or homeless are also made of flesh and blood and to me one is not more important than the other.
Religion, race, nationality...end many other things that mean to someone mean NOTHING TO ME...as I chose to group people only into GOOD and BAD.
Also BAD people are not hopeless and I try my hardest to convert them into good...Only, sometimes I do realize that my effort will not lead me to desired result - and that's when I give up trying to make the difference (only than...)...
And "digging my own hole" or "embarrassing myself by continuous posting" is something that you and Knny suggest that I am doing...while I am more than confident that the hole I am digging is hole in the ground needed for superior foundation of "my house" (my personality)...
As you can see I am proudly digging and have no intention to stop...Life is a journey - not a destination and digging, building...COMMUNICATING ...etc, etc...is something that makes us who we are...
Some of us (you?) would rather drop out when some effort is needed to accomplish something...and some of us (definitely me) have no problem working day-in and day out for something we believe in...
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My reputation is exactly that MY reputation...
For me Adonis, Knny, Arnold, president Bush...or anyone else ARE THE SAME.
I don't classify people into more important or worthy of my time and effort...
Millioners or homeless are also made of flesh and blood and to me one is not more important than the other.
Religion, race, nationality...end many other things that mean to someone mean NOTHING TO ME...as I chose to group people only into GOOD and BAD.
Also BAD people are not hopeless and I try my hardest to convert them into good...Only, sometimes I do realize that my effort will not lead me to desired result - and that's when I give up trying to make the difference (only than...)...
And "digging my own hole" or "embarrassing myself by continuous posting" is something that you and Knny suggest that I am doing...while I am more than confident that the hole I am digging is hole in the ground needed for superior foundation of "my house" (my personality)...
As you can see I am proudly digging and have no intention to stop...Life is a journey - not a destination and digging, building...COMMUNICATING ...etc, etc...is something that makes us who we are...
Some of us (you?) would rather drop out when some effort is needed to accomplish something...and some of us (definitely me) have no problem working day-in and day out for something we believe in...
well said....
now, about judging the posing round... let them get rid of it please milos!
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My name is buy....like in best buy.
::)
Giving you my name & my friends names (as explained) will only get you to come knocking on the door with an assault charge.
and Mishko....
nobody cares but you!
;D
People like you have noooooooooo control. ;)
As said by one of your old ex's
:o ;D :-*
Besides everything else - you made another thing up - on the snap of the fingers...
Having no control is yet another charge and supposedly "as said by one of my old ex's"...
As I am good with ALL of my ex's - I can have them come on this board and CONFIRM or DENY that.
Are you up for the challenge?
AGAIN - I am more than ready to prove you wrong...AS I DID ALREADY with your previous "rumor"...
For some reason scary cats always believe that when someone is called out - that people would get OUT OF CONTROL and PHYSICAL...
Obviously - AS THEY FEAR something like that (thus living in the mouse hole as anonymous hero's who can talk so tough...)
I have NOT been 'physical" even with people that deserved little spanking from my side (Mustafa being prime example)...but know-it-all people like you will conclude what I would do ::) ::) and what's on my mind...
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Mishko can't see that.....he's blinded by rage......ooops.....did I just say that?
;D
Maybe rege...it is relaxing music I like (every so often)...
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If Mustafa is reading all this (like Milos said he was), then Mustafa has a whole hell more self-control and wisdom as to how to "play the game". And, apparently knows Milos all too well -- realizing he's just going to dig his own hole as he is doing now.
Cudos Mustafa! Good chess player.
God knows, it takes a lot of self-control not to lash out at people calling him "fat" and a con-artist.
God knows it would take the courage to stand up for yourself ...something Mustafa can only dream about.
Besides, calling fat con-artist a fat con-artist is something I am sucessfully doing for a while...
His self control is called "fear" and his wisdom is legendary (just like yours and Knny's...)...
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Checkmate
;)
He did knock me out with tremendous punch with his left eye directly to my right fist...Checkmate and the knockout - he goes two for two...
Still in the hole?
Time for milk...Come out, come out wherever you are...
Comon kitty, kitty, knny...
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Ok, so then why are you trying to clear your name? If you are a respecter of no person, why do you care so much what other people think about you? Which is it? You want both, but that is impossible. Either you don't give a shit about who someone is, and therefore what they think about you. Or, as you said earlier: your name is the most important thing to you -- meaning, all you care about is what other people think of you.
Again, there is some reason you are so concerned about what people think of you. So saying you do not differentiate between Adonis and the President of the USA, does not tie into what you are saying here. Are you trying to convince yourself? If you don't differentiate between persons, and, at the same time, have a deep need to "win" this "debate", I can only conclude that you must be doing it to convince yourself of your own self-worth.
Think what you like. I follow through -- and do what I say I will do -- better than anyone I know, or have known.
Are you on drugs?
Or you must be drinking...
As I said before it would be nice if you can make a point every so often - it would be much appreciated...Nonsense is hard to follow.
When I say BLACK I mean black...How and why you think I am talking about red - beats me...
I will give you a suggestion and example (so everyone can follow much easier).
1- Subject of my debate: Knny (or word of So Cal) claims that I have a habit of borrowing money from people and never paying back!
2- My choices: IGNORE what was said or RESPOND. My choice was to respond.
3- I respectfully asked for SUBJECT to be little bit more explained...After all IF MANY PEOPLE claim that - it should be no problem finding ONE that can clearly say THIS or/and THAT...
4- No explanation, proof, names, amounts...etc (off course - as Knny made the story up...just like he made "no control" charge from one of my ex's...)
5- I answered EVERYTHING I was asked...other side DIDN'T answer a single question...
6- I am being wrong, defensive, digging my own hole, embarrassing myself..and who know what else? - ...........I DON'T THINK SO....
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The sad thing is, I am sure Milos has never in his life had to deal with such idiots before in PERSON... Only on the internet, everyone is a tough guy!
I hope you do not take these morons too personally Milos!
Hopefully MM owns up to his debt and pays you back! Lesson learned, never lend a "friend" money! You are too nice! Sadly people see the niceness in others and take advantage of it!!!!!
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Yes, I was getting off-topic. I was jumping ahead to the "why".
Knny was trying to make a point. He was giving an illogical, nonsensical argument. No matter what you said, he was not going to give you what you wanted (you wanted logical answers). That was the whole point.
It was an exercise to prove that you were so bull-headed, that no matter what the argument (or lack thereof - in this case), you would not back down, no matter what nonsense your opponent threw at you. Which lead me to: why?
He proved his point and made you look bad (like it or not, admit it or not).
Now I'm explaining - to you - what he was doing, and asking why you let yourself be drawn into it.
Another brilliant assessment of WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING here ::)
Neither he or you for that matter have a point.
My point is: I accept ANY and EVERY challenge with CERTAINTY that I will prove what I claim.
And I did.
Also - it was a cake walk...
For me this is the exercise...as I do need to practice talking to challenged ones, mentally disturbed, illogical, immature...etc. etc...
It is easy talking to someone with sense - quite harder talking to people like you and Knny - that can't see a forrest from the tree...
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Show me the specific message in this thread where you proved to us that you have paid back all of your debts to those people Knny referred to. The original challenge by Knny was that you had not paid all your debts to certain unnamed people. Show the specific message in which you prove this.
You can't. Knny never told you which specific instances he was referring to. Therefore we cannot know -- for sure -- that you have paid back all your debts. Therefore, you cannot say you proved what you claimed: that you pay back all your debts.
Like I said before, it was an exercise in futility.
but garreth where did kenny provide details of who these people are?
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He didn't. Let me re-quote myself and I'll highlight that...
For all we know, Knny knew of no others whom Milos never paid off. But, on the other hand, Knny might actually have some valid information. Since we don't know either way, and Knny won't say names, neither us, nor Milos can prove that he has paid back all his debts. And, ironically enough, neither Knny, nor us, can prove Milos hasn't paid off all his debts.
mate I understand the logic but how can someone refute an accusation they are a rat when it comes to paying back money when they aren't even told who they supposedly owe money to?
that has to come first... he might owe dozens of people money...
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knny is obvious making false statements. He drags on a thread with pointless post and gives no real facts or names. Your point is to try to discredit Milos. That is okay if what you are saying is true, why don't you drop some names so somebody can confirm your claims?
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Exxaacctttllly.
Which is why I initially told Milos to quit arguing with Knny (that whole "your digging your own hole", et-al). It was an exercise in futility. But Milos persisted, insisting that he could win this so-called "argument" and save face.
Well, how can he win? Like you said, there is no way to win such an illogical argument.
But noooo, Milos won't back down when challenged. Which, again, is why I said there is a time when you need to back down and the winner is actually the "looser" (the Chineese Finger Trap reference).
I'm trying to help Milos and he turns on me. Digging an even bigger hole by going after the person trying to help him. I pointed out the fact that it's stupid to continue the argument.
you're right but how boring is a thread when the accused simply says "tell me who said that?" and it's over... ;)
Chick does that every week practically...
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Exxaacctttllly.
Which is why I initially told Milos to quit arguing with Knny (that whole "your digging your own hole", et-al). It was an exercise in futility. But Milos persisted, insisting that he could win this so-called "argument" and save face.
Well, how can he win? Like you said, there is no way to win such an illogical argument.
But noooo, Milos won't back down when challenged. Which, again, is why I said there is a time when you need to back down and the winner is actually the "looser" (the Chineese Finger Trap reference).
I'm trying to help Milos and he turns on me. Digging an even bigger hole by going after the person trying to help him. I pointed out the fact that it's stupid to continue the argument.
I think Milos should step away from the computer and pop in a dVD and watch some tube...I would suggest that he watches the movie WARGAMES...right now milo's(JOSHUA) is at defcon 1. He needs to be at defcon 5...That way he could see that playing Globel Thermonuclear War(tic tac toe) with Garraeth(mattew Brodwick) is a no win situation... ;D
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Show me the specific message in this thread where you proved to us that you have paid back all of your debts to those people Knny referred to. The original challenge by Knny was that you had not paid all your debts to certain unnamed people. Show the specific message in which you prove this.
You can't. Knny never told you which specific instances he was referring to. Therefore we cannot know -- for sure -- that you have paid back all your debts. Therefore, you cannot say you proved what you claimed: that you pay back all your debts.
Like I said before, it was an exercise in futility.
I must do it a little bit slower as the level of your intelligence is not at the level that you might be able to comprehend what is really happening here.
So - try to pay attention this time and try to include 98 % of your grey mass and maybe you will actually understand a thing or two (I hardly believe it - but there is remote possibility - so I'll try):
I have paid COMPLETE AMOUNT WHICH I OWE = ZERO DOLLARS AND ZERO CENTS WITH 125% INTEREST (which is also zero dollars and zero cents) to all the people that I owe money to:
Mr. Nonexistant, Ms. Neverbeen born, and Mr.+ Mrs. Never been on Earth but planning to get there on the sunny day of July 2999....
So there you have it: proof of paying back EXACT number to EXACT group of people.
Case closed!
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I must do it a little bit slower as the level of your intelligence is not at the level that you might be able to comprehend what is really happening here.
So - try to pay attention this time and try to include 98 % of your grey mass and maybe you will actually understand a thing or two (I hardly believe it - but there is remote possibility - so I'll try):
I have paid COMPLETE AMOUNT WHICH I OWE = ZERO DOLLARS AND ZERO CENTS WITH 125% INTEREST (which is also zero dollars and zero cents) to all the people that I owe money to:
Mr. Nonexistant, Ms. Neverbeen born, and Mr.+ Mrs. Never been on Earth but planning to get there on the sunny day of July 2999....
So there you have it: proof of paying back EXACT number to EXACT group of people.
Case closed!
LOL...too funny milo's...
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Exxaacctttllly.
Which is why I initially told Milos to quit arguing with Knny (that whole "your digging your own hole", et-al). It was an exercise in futility. But Milos persisted, insisting that he could win this so-called "argument" and save face.
Well, how can he win? Like you said, there is no way to win such an illogical argument.
But noooo, Milos won't back down when challenged. Which, again, is why I said there is a time when you need to back down and the winner is actually the "looser" (the Chineese Finger Trap reference).
I'm trying to help Milos and he turns on me. Digging an even bigger hole by going after the person trying to help him. I pointed out the fact that it's stupid to continue the argument.
I do not need to save my face as my face was never in danger...
I wanted to prove exactly what I did (and for "slow" people it might take a decade to realize the obvious truth...which is: NOBODY told him that...he made it up. And if that's not crystal clear to someone - they should stop reading Mickey Mouse Almanac and get something more serious to read...And I don't think Playboy... ;)).
One thing is sure - and that is: Milos NEVER backs down...and never quits. That's not in my vocabulary...except when I see that it is pointless telling blind person that grass is green and sky is blue if he/she claims otherwise and not considering what I have to say...
Knny tried to be funny and start the rumor himself - not expecting that I will call his bluff...
Since than he is desperately trying to find excuse after excuse...Only problem is - he is getting in more and more troubles...and I enjoy watching him suffer...
And as far as you "helping me" - please stop...I can't handle so much help...Also I don't need it...
What is next - you'll help me learn my native language or how to do bench press?
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He didn't. Let me re-quote myself and I'll highlight that...
For all we know, Knny knew of no others whom Milos never paid off. But, on the other hand, Knny might actually have some valid information. Since we don't know either way, and Knny won't say names, neither us, nor Milos can prove that he has paid back all his debts. And, ironically enough, neither Knny, nor us, can prove Milos hasn't paid off all his debts.
For all we know Garraeth knew of no others whom Milos never took on Mars (for a vacation). But on the other hand, Garraeth might actually have some valid information (as there could be realistic ::) possibility that Milos went to Mars alone (with all the money he borrow from all those above mentioned people).
Since we don't know either way, and Garraeth won't say names, neither us, nor Milos can prove that he has been to Mars...
And ironically enough, Neither Garraeth, nor us, can prove that Milos didn't go to Mars...So there you have it!
Nobody has proven anything!!!
And the Oscar for stupidity goes to Garraeth...
Best supporting role (for the ultimate stupidity) goes to Knny...
Both unequivocally made Milos sound like an idiot and a lier...loser...etc....et c
Hallelujah!
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Didn't you guys ever play those logic games in school? Kinda like that game Clue where you mark off all the impossible possibilities.
Didn't you guys ever play logic games in school?
Logically - if someone have a person that owes him money he would IN THE HURRY want to inform the world that "person" owes him money and that he wants it back.
Logically he would wantAS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE to remind "person" to give him the money back - ASAP...
Only impossible possibility is that THIS is indeed the case...
Only POSSIBLE possibility is that NO MONEY IS OWED and "someone" person realized how stupid he/she would sound if he/she tries to lie and claim such athing - asking "person" to return money that was never owned... ::)
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He would show up in my gym 6 days before the Europa show with easily 15% body fat, double chin...and everything that goes with that (as a bonus package)
Milos,
What did you have the man do to lose as much bodyfat as possible in such a short amount of time?
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Milos,
What did you have the man do to lose as much bodyfat as possible in such a short amount of time?
Bee Pollen, the ultimate steroid. ;)
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Didn't you guys ever play logic games in school?
Logically - if someone have a person that owes him money he would IN THE HURRY want to inform the world that "person" owes him money and that he wants it back.
Logically he would wantAS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE to remind "person" to give him the money back - ASAP...
Only impossible possibility is that THIS is indeed the case...
Only POSSIBLE possibility is that NO MONEY IS OWED and "someone" person realized how stupid he/she would sound if he/she tries to lie and claim such athing - asking "person" to return money that was never owned... ::)
What if ppl have dreams of causing trouble on the Net, then hiding behind PC?
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Also BAD people are not hopeless and I try my hardest to convert them into good...Only, sometimes I do realize that my effort will not lead me to desired result - and that's when I give up trying to make the difference (only than...)...
Mishko is now on a missionary ::)
I can't wait until he starts comparing himself with Christ
;D
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Besides everything else - you made another thing up - on the snap of the fingers...
Having no control is yet another charge and supposedly "as said by one of my old ex's"...
As I am good with ALL of my ex's - I can have them come on this board and CONFIRM or DENY that.
Are you up for the challenge?
Challenge? What....am I supposed to help you defend against this so-called statement I just made?
How funny....
you want me to do your work....hey Mishko....it doesn't work that way.
;)
AGAIN - I am more than ready to prove you wrong...AS I DID ALREADY with your previous "rumor"...
Aren't you done with me?
I forget....I think you said this 3 or 4 meltdowns ago.
;D
For some reason scary cats always believe that when someone is called out - that people would get OUT OF CONTROL and PHYSICAL...
Obviously - AS THEY FEAR something like that (thus living in the mouse hole as anonymous hero's who can talk so tough...)
I have NOT been 'physical" even with people that deserved little spanking from my side (Mustafa being prime example)...but know-it-all people like you will conclude what I would do ::) ::) and what's on my mind...
Responding to me....a nobody making supposed "false" accusations.....shows your lack of control. ::)
I would call you dumb....but it's really not necessary....is it?
;D
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He did knock me out with tremendous punch with his left eye directly to my right fist...Checkmate and the knockout - he goes two for two...
No wrong game.....funny how you just associated chess with a physical activity.
You do know what the term "checkmate" means...? Right?
What's with the physical terms "knock out....tremendous punch....left eye...right fist"
I thought you were called "Milos the Mind"
More like....
"Milos out of Control & Dumb by blind Rage"
;)
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Are you on drugs?
Or you must be drinking...
As I said before it would be nice if you can make a point every so often - it would be much appreciated...Nonsense is hard to follow.
When I say BLACK I mean black...How and why you think I am talking about red - beats me...
I will give you a suggestion and example (so everyone can follow much easier).
1- Subject of my debate: Knny (or word of So Cal) claims that I have a habit of borrowing money from people and never paying back!
2- My choices: IGNORE what was said or RESPOND. My choice was to respond.
3- I respectfully asked for SUBJECT to be little bit more explained...After all IF MANY PEOPLE claim that - it should be no problem finding ONE that can clearly say THIS or/and THAT...
4- No explanation, proof, names, amounts...etc (off course - as Knny made the story up...just like he made "no control" charge from one of my ex's...)
5- I answered EVERYTHING I was asked...other side DIDN'T answer a single question...
6- I am being wrong, defensive, digging my own hole, embarrassing myself..and who know what else? - ...........I DON'T THINK SO....
He's the break down of this long winded, meltdown statement....
I made a statement (which seems to be true)
He wants names or facts (actual dollar amounts or instances) which would surface some names.
I say no....because we all know Mishko is a little...."out of control" & giving him that information could get someone hurt.
Mishko...."relax"
Stop being so.......Jumpy ;D
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The sad thing is, I am sure Milos has never in his life had to deal with such idiots before in PERSON... Only on the internet, everyone is a tough guy!
I hope you do not take these morons too personally Milos!
Hopefully MM owns up to his debt and pays you back! Lesson learned, never lend a "friend" money! You are too nice! Sadly people see the niceness in others and take advantage of it!!!!!
I'm not an internet tough guy....Milos is making the agressive threats & fine examples of.....
"out of control"
;)
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He proved his point and made you look bad (like it or not, admit it or not).
Now I'm explaining - to you - what he was doing, and asking why you let yourself be drawn into it.
Dude....does giving a blind person glasses still give them the ability to see?
;D
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you're right but how boring is a thread when the accused simply says "tell me who said that?" and it's over... ;)
Chick does that every week practically...
Bingo!
Chick is not as stupid as Milo's looks
;D
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Mishko is now on a missionary ::)
I can't wait until he starts comparing himself with Christ
;D
I don't need to compare - that is MORE THAN OBVIOUS ;D...
(I am so glad you noticed...)
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One thing is sure - and that is: Milos NEVER backs down...and never quits. That's not in my vocabulary...except when I see that it is pointless telling blind person that grass is green and sky is blue if he/she claims otherwise and not considering what I have to say...
the third person
damn....you are messed ;)
It does show that putting your hand on a hot stove will not teach you that it hurts.
Knny tried to be funny and start the rumor himself - not expecting that I will call his bluff...
Since than he is desperately trying to find excuse after excuse...Only problem is - he is getting in more and more troubles...and I enjoy watching him suffer...
It's even funnier....because it's not a rumour ;D
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Milos,
What did you have the man do to lose as much bodyfat as possible in such a short amount of time?
He tooks his lunch money & did not pay him back
;D
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I don't need to compare - that is MORE THAN OBVIOUS ;D...
(I am so glad you noticed...)
I am observant
Cats do have keen eyesight
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Dude....does giving a blind person glasses still give them the ability to see?
;D
Nope...but telling a blind person that grass is green could be quite helpfull information for that person...
(also telling blind that KNNY is full of kaka is another important FACT blind people should know - as they can't really read your all of your "painfull toxic load" ...)
And KNNY - as I still didn't trick you into telling me (us) your name, amount of testicles that are missing from your arsenal of androgenic attributes...and few other things...
This time I will leave you in your misery and that hole you are enjoying every minute of every day...
Seventeen years from now - when you save enough money to hire me (your life's dream) for 15 minutes - you could possibly be on the level of the first grader and actually understand me (AT LEAST SOMETHING I HOPE?) at that point...Othervise - don't rush now as even elementary things we are talking about here are way over your head.
I do have a reputation that I don't want to just give the info to my clients - I insist in explaining in the great details everything I would want them to know...
As I said - for you THAT would be impossible to comprehend at the moment...
The only reason I was still responding to you AFTER I SAID THAT I WOULDN'T anymore - is for sentimental reasons.
My daughter is now 8 years old and I miss dealing with child's theories, logic and the way of thinking of the 3 year old kid...Difference is that you showed me how "disturbed" 3 year old thinks about and comprehension of even simplest things to you might be way, way over your head...so - it was fun...but now I have to go back to work...
Go back to find "word of So Cal" (just turn towards the mirror)...and find one of my Ex's...you might get MORE information that you are looking for...
Just be careful - if you get out of your hole and cops are around they might take you to the first clinic...as talking to yourself is interpreted differently by many cops...Just a fair warning. ;)
BTW -on the side note - Can I borrow some money from you?
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Well, I guess since you repeated back to me a similar scenario, you understand what I was trying to get at. And, yes, your going to Mars scenario is just as illogical as the scenario with which you have been arguing with Knny about.
So it seems that you agree. Knny and your argument is unprovable either way: "Nobody has proven anything!!!" as you said about your parallel scenario.
So why are you arguing with him? And why are you arguing with me if you already agree with my point?
And this is exactly why I nominated you and gave you well deserved Oscar for the ultimate stupidity! ;)
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And this is exactly why I nominated you and gave you well deserved Oscar for the ultimate stupidity! ;)
Here is my advice. Milos ... stop, seriously. All they are trying to do is piss you off, and it is working very well. If you keep responding in this nature they are going to paint you to be like Kamali, or Tom Prince. Everyone knows that you are truly a stand up guy, but they are going to say that you are full of yourself, and having an androgen induced rage. Just let it be.
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Here is my advice. Milos ... stop, seriously. All they are trying to do is piss you off, and it is working very well. If you keep responding in this nature they are going to paint you to be like Kamali, or Tom Prince. Everyone knows that you are truly a stand up guy, but they are going to say that you are full of yourself, and having an androgen induced rage. Just let it be.
Impossible Milos must have the last work on EVERY occassion. He loves the attention in any and every form-just read the posts he puts out there.
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Nope...but telling a blind person that grass is green could be quite helpfull information for that person...
(also telling blind that KNNY is full of kaka is another important FACT blind people should know - as they can't really read your all of your "painfull toxic load" ...)
Milos is a white Yugoslavian Ray Charles 8)
And KNNY - as I still didn't trick you into telling me (us) your name, amount of testicles that are missing from your arsenal of androgenic attributes...and few other things...
This time I will leave you in your misery and that hole you are enjoying every minute of every day...
Seventeen years from now - when you save enough money to hire me (your life's dream) for 15 minutes - you could possibly be on the level of the first grader and actually understand me (AT LEAST SOMETHING I HOPE?) at that point...Othervise - don't rush now as even elementary things we are talking about here are way over your head.
I would rather have Shawn train me. At least I know what he does actually works in a contest. ;D
I do have a reputation that I don't want to just give the info to my clients - I insist in explaining in the great details everything I would want them to know...
As I said - for you THAT would be impossible to comprehend at the moment...
The reputation in your mind is different than the one on the street.
;D
The only reason I was still responding to you AFTER I SAID THAT I WOULDN'T anymore - is for sentimental reasons.
bwuahahahahaha
My daughter is now 8 years old and I miss dealing with child's theories, logic and the way of thinking of the 3 year old kid...Difference is that you showed me how "disturbed" 3 year old thinks about and comprehension of even simplest things to you might be way, way over your head...so - it was fun...but now I have to go back to work...
Why is your 3 year old child disturbed? Most 3 year olds are innocent thinkers.
;D
Go back to find "word of So Cal" (just turn towards the mirror)...and find one of my Ex's...you might get MORE information that you are looking for...
Just be careful - if you get out of your hole and cops are around they might take you to the first clinic...as talking to yourself is interpreted differently by many cops...Just a fair warning. ;)
BTW -on the side note - Can I borrow some money from you?
Oh btw....I will give you a 'small' tip......
The Cops in your Valley......are looking into a few of your buddies & have been for awhile....
or so the gossip of a drunk cop at happy hour says.
:)
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Hey now. What's up with the name calling?
I saw what Knny was doing and brought it up. If you don't like what he was doing, tell him. Don't harp on me for telling you what he was doing, and don't ignore it feigning ignorance. And certainly don't get on my case for explaining it and breaking it down into its constituent parts.
Maybe you should write in a bigger font & space the words out.....
he's a little lost in translation
;D
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Here is my advice. Milos ... stop, seriously. All they are trying to do is piss you off, and it is working very well. If you keep responding in this nature they are going to paint you to be like Kamali, or Tom Prince. Everyone knows that you are truly a stand up guy, but they are going to say that you are full of yourself, and having an androgen induced rage. Just let it be.
Damn....don't tell him he's losing (or making him look like an idiot)....that pisses him off more & this will turn into a 20 page thread
Remember....he has a reputation!
Although...his version & the actual version is slightly different.
:-*
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Milos,
What did you have the man do to lose as much bodyfat as possible in such a short amount of time?
I asked you the above. You must have missed it. If you don't answer such questions, just say so. Thanks.
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I asked you the above. You must have missed it. If you don't answer such questions, just say so. Thanks.
He put him on a...."science diet"
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Well, I did use some big words, but there is an online dictionary at dictionary.com if it's got to do w/ the language barrier. But, you think changing fonts might help? Does Milos wear glasses?
How's this?
I feel Mishko gets raged and a little jumpy.
This may be seem childish but I have a
feeling even his 3 year old has a hard time
making sense of his dribble.
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I can read that from across the room. Too big.
Well.....I am trying to help break down the translation problem we have
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Hey now. What's up with the name calling?
I saw what Knny was doing and brought it up. If you don't like what he was doing, tell him. Don't harp on me for telling you what he was doing, and don't ignore it feigning ignorance. And certainly don't get on my case for explaining it and breaking it down into its constituent parts.
Name calling?
You two are ideal combo for "dumb and dumber" part 3...
He can say/do something and you can perfectly explain what he is saying/doing...
Well, that's why academy gave you - Oscar(s) ;)
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Name calling?
You two are ideal combo for "dumb and dumber" part 3...
He can say/do something and you can perfectly explain what he is saying/doing...
Well, that's why academy gave you - Oscar(s) ;)
Roid Rage kick in yet?
;D
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Roid Rage kick in yet?
;D
You flirt!
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Here is my advice. Milos ... stop, seriously. All they are trying to do is piss you off, and it is working very well. If you keep responding in this nature they are going to paint you to be like Kamali, or Tom Prince. Everyone knows that you are truly a stand up guy, but they are going to say that you are full of yourself, and having an androgen induced rage. Just let it be.
Seriously - thanks for your advice...but I am having fun.
Speaking with "challenged" is educational...I always wondered what my father was going through as a psychiatrist...
I am getting perfect picture of that - right here...right now...
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Impossible Milos must have the last work on EVERY occassion. He loves the attention in any and every form-just read the posts he puts out there.
:'( :'( :'( keep it :'( :'( real... :'( :'( - No really!
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Seriously - thanks for your advice...but I am having fun.
Speaking with "challenged" is educational...I always wondered what my father was going through as a psychiatrist...
I am getting perfect picture of that - right here...right now...
You're living proof that your father was a failure
:-\
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Hey, at least I got an Oscar. >:(
*note big font
Congratulations for that ;) - you for the leading role and scary cat for supporting...
Considering the amount of brilliant posts and lack of any sense...you guys are on the way for the lifetime achievement award as well...
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Seriously - thanks for your advice...but I am having fun.
Speaking with "challenged" is educational...I always wondered what my father was going through as a psychiatrist...
I am getting perfect picture of that - right here...right now...
psychiatrist is the #2 profession right behind dentist in terms of suicides :-\
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So are you trying to say Ron is retarded? How rude.
You are confirming WHY you got the Oscar for the stupidity with every post ;D
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Ron is retarded...
Can you guess what am I saying now?
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Impossible Milos must have the last work on EVERY occassion. He loves the attention in any and every form-just read the posts he puts out there.
Keepi Treal, can I have the last work on every occasion? I love working...just as much as I love the attention...
You've been ignoring me lately - I need my ATENSSION...on every OCASSION...Especially now...
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i just got on here and saw a few posts... milos are you doing any recreational drugs?
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Milos.. you are an amazing bodybuilder. True inspiration in my early training. To see you back on stage would be incredible.. PLEASE comeback.. below or some of the best pics.. what bodybuilding should be all about.. not who can look the most pregnant.
Its cute how these internet characters think they make a point and try to attack you to get off.. when never making a solid fact with proof. You are a true class act to amuse them.. and the rest of us.
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i just got on here and saw a few posts... milos are you doing any recreational drugs?
No, I am not recreating any rugs...
Gibberj2 - did you read any book lately? Ever?
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Bingo!
Chick is not as stupid as Milo's looks
;D
In regards to winning an unwinnable argument like you have put up in this thread there is still some real world issues that milos might be thinking and is therefore responding with passion.
In short... mud sticks.
Lets say someone says "I heard from someone you owe them money" and the other guy stops the argument short by saying "well unless you tell me who I'm not getting into this with you" and it's over then the second guy has won the battle but the first guy has still put out to the world that MAYBE it IS true.
It's like an old trick you can use where you put shit on someone knowing from the outset that you are going to publicly apologise for it after they blow their top about it.
You say "sorry I didn't mean it" but people still remember the issue and probably think the person DID do it. You also come out looking like a nice guy for saying sorry but still putting the issue out to the world...
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Translation: My favorite is LSD - using it helps me make sense of Alice in Wonderland.
You already proved your translating, read between the lines and interpreting what someone really thinks - ability...
I see I got you to the same point as Knny - now you feel the need to insult... ;D ;D
Way to go Ilovemustafa.com....
BTW - did Mustafa ask you for money yet?
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team vince goodbum coming at your ass in 2007!!!!1
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I TOTALLY BELIEVE, AND BACK MILOS, 1,000% CONTACT ME ANY TIME, MILOS!!!
STEVE
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Milos please dont lower yourself and get caught up in dialogue with fools, its not worth it, the bodybuilders on here respect you, its hard to distinguish us from the keyboard geeks who probably dont train, but save your keyboard skills for valid stuff, your time here is better spent sharing your knowledge than responding to these fools,
Anyone can be tough over the net guys just leave the man alone, this is a bodybuilding forum, hes a seasoned pro, he desrves respect here at least especially when he has been more than honest to us about lots of things and has given us an insight into the pro world, which i agree sounds like a circus, but he deserves respect
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Milos, I want free Vitargo!!! Can I get some when I go Koloseum? ;)
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Hey Mishko.....
What kind of muscle building techniques builds massive filled arms like these:
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Milos please dont lower yourself and get caught up in dialogue with fools, its not worth it, the bodybuilders on here respect you, its hard to distinguish us from the keyboard geeks who probably dont train, but save your keyboard skills for valid stuff, your time here is better spent sharing your knowledge than responding to these fools,
Anyone can be tough over the net guys just leave the man alone, this is a bodybuilding forum, hes a seasoned pro, he desrves respect here at least especially when he has been more than honest to us about lots of things and has given us an insight into the pro world, which i agree sounds like a circus, but he deserves respect
Honest, it is very easy to distinguish YOU and other fans from scary cat geeks with "cyberballs"...
I am really having fun - entertaining myself watching them go trough typical scenario: accusation, lack of any evidence to prove accusations, numerous excuses...and than personal attacks and judgements...
So predictable.
But, in all reality written word is there forever...
Some psychologist, psychiatrist...student.. .(and maybe aliens in the far future? ;D) can analyze what SOME humans are (were) all about...
It is just another day in the office for me...
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Milos, I want free Vitargo!!! Can I get some when I go Koloseum? ;)
Of course you can - I'll give you personally...Just ask for me. ;)
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Honest, it is very easy to distinguish YOU and other fans from scary cat geeks with "cyberballs"...
I am really having fun - entertaining myself watching them go trough typical scenario: accusation, lack of any evidence to prove accusations, numerous excuses...and than personal attacks and judgements...
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Those arms did look stupid...I must say ;D
I paid the price...and still paying for it.
Some of us realize our mistakes and admit them publicly...
Some on another hand...DON'T! ;)
Did I say - my arms were 22 and a half inches ;D ;D ;D.
I think I had enough oil to drive trough California for a week...
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Those arms did look stupid...I must say ;D
I paid the price...and still paying for it.
Some of us realize our mistakes and admit them publicly...
Some on another hand...DON'T! ;)
Did I say - my arms were 22 and a half inches ;D ;D ;D.
I think I had enough oil to drive trough California for a week...
Probably would've been smarter to inject it in your triceps to even it out.
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Eh...even if I say that I was complete idiot (which I was) to make such a cardinal mistake (which I repeatedly admitted) and warned many about it (for their own sake)...I will still get nothing but LOVE from my getbigger's...
Oh well...
Yes ALEXXXX - (even though you lost privilege to communicate with me - but I'll give you the pleasure of answering your charge...) I did exactly that...
And that is how many guys got themself in trouble.
They start with just a little bit here and there and in the beginning - it is not noticeable...
Than they start putting more and more - not realizing what they are really doing...
Soon - their anatomy changes and their muscles start looking weird (anatomically incorrect)...so they start adjusting...or trying to correct the mistake - while they are just doing MORE DAMAGE and making it worst...
That was exactly the case with me...
I saw how stupid my arms started to look (incredible biceps peak) so I tried to "even out"...and I made it 10 times worse...
There is NOTHING else that I can say but that my arms look STUPID...and therefore - I deserve EVERYTHING that I got...
Back in 1999 I was actually starting to beat many of the guys (Jay, Dexter, Vince, Nasser, Gunter, Markus, Darrem...) and after that I only went down...
OK?
I made just another example of myself - with hope that IF anyone thinks of doing synthol - please just look at those pics above...
Also - to add something very important: initial growth (increase in size) soon became complete atrophy - and actually LOSS of size...
So any which way you look at it - it is just NOT worth it...
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Eh...even if I say that I was complete idiot (which I was) to make such a cardinal mistake (which I repeatedly admitted) and warned many about it (for their own sake)...I will still get nothing but LOVE from my getbigger's...
Oh well...
Yes ALEXXXX - (even though you lost privilege to communicate with me - but I'll give you the pleasure of answering your charge...) I did exactly that...
And that is how many guys got themself in trouble.
They start with just a little bit here and there and in the beginning - it is not noticeable...
Than they start putting more and more - not realizing what they are really doing...
Soon - their anatomy changes and their muscles start looking weird (anatomically incorrect)...so they start adjusting...or trying to correct the mistake - while they are just doing MORE DAMAGE and making it worst...
That was exactly the case with me...
I saw how stupid my arms started to look (incredible biceps peak) so I tried to "even out"...and I made it 10 times worse...
There is NOTHING else that I can say but that my arms look STUPID...and therefore - I deserve EVERYTHING that I got...
Back in 1999 I was actually starting to beat many of the guys (Jay, Dexter, Vince, Nasser, Gunter, Markus, Darrem...) and after that I only went down...
OK?
I made just another example of myself - with hope that IF anyone thinks of doing synthol - please just look at those pics above...
Also - to add something very important: initial growth (increase in size) soon became complete atrophy - and actually LOSS of size...
So any which way you look at it - it is just NOT worth it...
Shame you never trained your arms hard enough to make a growth spur occur. One day I will teach you how to train my little native friend.
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Alexxx, Today I will give you double pleasure by answering to two of your posts...but that's it...
My ARM TRAINING challenge to you was issued long ago - and you refused it with every excuse in the book...
Remember - you only needed to beat my wife in ONE exercise for arms...and you could get some cash...free vacation and personal satisfaction of defeating me...
But...we all know what happened...
I suppose you will still refuse to come to Koloseum and try to be a man and beat my woman in arm training....
My offer still stands...You do look much better lately...You actually look like you are maybe even lifting weights.
Did you actually start?
Did you get my 'Secrets of the pros" dvd?
So - if you really mean what you are saying: that you will teach little native me how to train the arms - than I might even have a chance (to go to Broadway and cast for the "swan lake"...)
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So what made them able to grow bigger arms than you? Genetically predisposed to more arm mass? Different training style? Concentrated on arm training more? Different drug regimen?
genes... milos knows his stuff he was doing zottman curls, reverse curls, hammer curls to bring up his weak brachialis, brachioradialis - he mentioned it all he once a long time ago - but not much ever happened to them.
If the cells aren't there what can you do? well there is always oil I guess...
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Milos with all that DRUG use the IFBB should have banned you.I am sure the law would of been interested in your medicine cabinet.You say time and time again how you tell everyone how bad Synthol is BUT look at your little friend Chris Dim his arms look like oil oil oil.Is he off putting it in his legs for that extra 3inches?????.Ps Ikeepitreal seems to know you as does Knny187
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Hmmm.. Looks like Shawn and Milos are still best of friends
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Miss Karen you are a moron. The IFBB knows about every one of their athletes using drugs. Furthermore if you are a woman then why the hell do you care that these guy take drugs? they are not competing with you. you sound like one of these self righteous naturals. maybe you are the wrong sex.
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Thanx Milos if the drugs are OK then go and ask Ben and Joe to change the Rules.Moron,what has anything got to do with me competing.You Idiot none of you clowns compete so climb down of milos balls and try a workout instead of posting.Bitch.
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Thanx Milos if the drugs are OK then go and ask Ben and Joe to change the Rules.Moron,what has anything got to do with me competing.You Idiot none of you clowns compete so climb down of milos balls and try a workout instead of posting.Bitch.
Welcome back Miss Karen. :)
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Thanks Prison time was nice. ::)
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Thanx Milos if the drugs are OK then go and ask Ben and Joe to change the Rules.Moron,what has anything got to do with me competing.You Idiot none of you clowns compete so climb down of milos balls and try a workout instead of posting.Bitch.
Miss Karen, you were in timeout for a reason.. Please act like a grown-up..
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Miss Karen, you were in timeout for a reason.. Please act like a grown-up..
Miss Karen tells it like it is.. Like it or not.
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Thanx Milos if the drugs are OK then go and ask Ben and Joe to change the Rules.Moron,what has anything got to do with me competing.You Idiot none of you clowns compete so climb down of milos balls and try a workout instead of posting.Bitch.
All props for Miss Karen for her blatant lips
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she's a stupid pms bitch. hey bitch. why do you care if milos or any iffb athletes do drugs? what's it to you? this girl is telling us to try working out? maybe "she's" a homo. hey "girl" are you a female bodybuilder? if you are why don't you go tell female bodybuilders to stop taking drugs and stop posting here?
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Hey Milos, you didn't inject any of that shit into your calves too did you?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100291.0;attach=110689;image)
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I think the same of the she males that load Fool.Now back to the question are drugs legal in the IFBB????.Like I said Bitch ask Joe or Ben.If they say it's OK then Milos is fine to use as is all others.Now back to your needle Bitch.
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Alexxx, Today I will give you double pleasure by answering to two of your posts...but that's it...
My ARM TRAINING challenge to you was issued long ago - and you refused it with every excuse in the book...
Remember - you only needed to beat my wife in ONE exercise for arms...and you could get some cash...free vacation and personal satisfaction of defeating me...
But...we all know what happened...
I suppose you will still refuse to come to Koloseum and try to be a man and beat my woman in arm training....
My offer still stands...You do look much better lately...You actually look like you are maybe even lifting weights.
Did you actually start?
Did you get my 'Secrets of the pros" dvd?
So - if you really mean what you are saying: that you will teach little native me how to train the arms - than I might even have a chance (to go to Broadway and cast for the "swan lake"...)
Mishko we have been through this over and over again. You issued the challenge so how about you put up my airfair and one nights accommodations. If not then whenever you show your sorry butt in Montreal then give me a call. I doubt there is anybody on this planet that trains half as hard as me.
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Milos with all that DRUG use the IFBB should have banned you.I am sure the law would of been interested in your medicine cabinet.You say time and time again how you tell everyone how bad Synthol is BUT look at your little friend Chris Dim his arms look like oil oil oil.Is he off putting it in his legs for that extra 3inches?????.Ps Ikeepitreal seems to know you as does Knny187
Miss Karen - it seems that your yeast infection problem is not slowing down....
All that drug use?
Synthol is a DRUG?
And IFBB should have banned me for it ::)...
Law was interested in my medicine cabinet, came to my house and searched it up and down - and didn't take A SINGLE UNIT of anything...
Thus - I was never charged with a possession... ;)
After they got all the facts - they didn't charge me with distribution either... ;)
Not even with the importation....etc...etc ...etc - only with CONSPIRACY (intention) TO POSES FOR PERSONAL USE (and personal use - is the term which determines the possible amount that I was CONSPIRING to poses - which would be enough only for personal use...)
People like you, Keepi Treal and few others would LOVE to be right about your drug assumption about me...so go ahead and continue hating the fact that I am clean, did more shows than anyone, prepared g-zillion competitors, own the gym...etc...etc...etc
How is your day going BTW?
Loving life as usual?
:-* :-*
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I find it ironic that Lee gets suspended for competing with PDI but you openly admit your DRUG use and nothing done about the Anti Drug Rule from the IFBB and why would you continue with the personal attacks I never said I had a yeast infection unlike you and your DRUG use admissions. ::)
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Anti drug and IFBB should never be used in the same sentence. ::)
Oh, I just did though... What I meant to say was.... oh, never mind.
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Hey Milos, you didn't inject any of that shit into your calves too did you?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100291.0;attach=110689;image)
Oh yes...I did...and that's why my otherwise OK calves atrophied too - so I have another problem area to focus on...
But, that's OK...
Things are getting back in order...I do have intention to be at my best...
With help and support from Miss Karen (and few others) - I think I can do just that...
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Will need to be at 43 and to beat Luke at Aussie show 2007.Now will you pay him if he beats you and does that make him a guru to the guru????.
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I find it ironic that Lee gets suspended for competing with PDI but you openly admit your DRUG use and nothing done about the Anti Drug Rule from the IFBB and why would you continue with the personal attacks I never said I had a yeast infection unlike you and your DRUG use admissions. ::)
Synthol is not a "drug" ::)...Yeast infection is not personal attack.
You still love me?
Did you see my pic next to Jay?
I did it just for you Miss Karen...
I knew you were going to ask me about Romania - so I did it JUST FOR YOU :-* :-*
(PS - you think I could have beaten Jay in Romania?)
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Will need to be at 43 and to beat Luke at Aussie show 2007.Now will you pay him if he beats you and does that make him a guru to the guru????.
Was that on English?
I didn't really get it...Can you say a l i t t l e s l o w e r r r r r?
Pay Luke if 43 year old Will shows up at Aussie show 2007 and something guru to the guru...Guru?
O - K than...
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So I guess if as you say Synthol is not a drug and it is not on the IFBB banned list you may still use it as it is LEGAL for use.and the only thing in that pic was that you need some Sun.I don't think Jay or any of the others competing were too worried if you stepped up or not. Ok let me put it in Ugo, At your age 43 you will have a hard time beating Luke at the 2007 Aussie show and if he beats you will he be your Guru????It's simple now it's in Ugo.
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Miss Karen, you are getting really annoying
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Why because your Guru breaks the IFBB anti drug rules by his own admission.Ask knny187 and 1stkeepitreal these guys know a lot more than me.Do you find them annoying also or is it just a little truth you don't like??.
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Why because your Guru breaks the IFBB anti drug rules by his own admission.Ask knny187 and 1stkeepitreal these guys know a lot more than me.Do you find them annoying also or is it just a little truth you don't like??.
listen dude, every motherfucking guy on the pro circuit is on juice weither it is Kenny Jones or Ronnie Coleman.
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Will need to be at 43 and to beat Luke at Aussie show 2007.Now will you pay him if he beats you and does that make him a guru to the guru????.
"Druugs are bad... really really bad" Another good reason why not to use drugs... :-\
(http://www-atdp.berkeley.edu/Studentpages/nselby/t_204_mkaymackey.jpg)
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listen dude, every motherfucking guy on the pro circuit is on juice weither it is Kenny Jones or Ronnie Coleman.
Are you sure about Kenny? ;)
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Wow big statement Stavios are you saying the IFBB anti drug rules don't exist???Hmmmmmmm.
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CULTURELLE is one of the best over the counter Probiotics out there...Just one capsule has 10 billion Lactobacillus GG cells(good bacteria)in it...Yeast problems are not just in women...And if your taking any antibiotics and/or lots of steroids, you to more then likely have massive yeast build up...Check your tongue for some white buildup...Thats a good indicator...
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Are you sure about Kenny? ;)
Well..... Maybe Kenny looks bad on an IFBB Pro stage but put him in a gym and he looks better than a lot of juicers
so even if he place dead last, I can assume than he is on something
I'd say the only clean guy is Jocelyn Pelletier ( I HOPE HE IS ;) )
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Miss Karen - it seems that your yeast infection problem is not slowing down....
All that drug use?
Synthol is a DRUG?
And IFBB should have banned me for it ::)...
Law was interested in my medicine cabinet, came to my house and searched it up and down - and didn't take A SINGLE UNIT of anything...
Thus - I was never charged with a possession... ;)
After they got all the facts - they didn't charge me with distribution either... ;)
Not even with the importation....etc...etc ...etc - only with CONSPIRACY (intention) TO POSES FOR PERSONAL USE (and personal use - is the term which determines the possible amount that I was CONSPIRING to poses - which would be enough only for personal use...)
People like you, Keepi Treal and few others would LOVE to be right about your drug assumption about me...so go ahead and continue hating the fact that I am clean, did more shows than anyone, prepared g-zillion competitors, own the gym...etc...etc...etc
How is your day going BTW?
Loving life as usual?
:-* :-*
If you were 100% innocent....why were you on probation & slapped with a fine?
I've been accused of stuff in my past....but when I was declared INNOCENT....I walked clear....no fines....no probation.
Answer that on Mishko
;D
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Then Jocelyn is the only guy who would pass the stringent IFBB drug tests.Crown the guy and give him his dues.
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So I guess if as you say Synthol is not a drug and it is not on the IFBB banned list you may still use it as it is LEGAL for use.and the only thing in that pic was that you need some Sun.I don't think Jay or any of the others competing were too worried if you stepped up or not. Ok let me put it in Ugo, At your age 43 you will have a hard time beating Luke at the 2007 Aussie show and if he beats you will he be your Guru????It's simple now it's in Ugo.
I will have a hard time beating Luke at any age...If he beats me will he be my Guru? OK...he will be my Guru...
And what is Ugo? What would you like to put in Ugo and what's simple now in Ugo?
Ugo Sanchez?
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If you were 100% innocent....why were you on probation & slapped with a fine?
I've been accused of stuff in my past....but when I was declared INNOCENT....I walked clear....no fines....no probation.
Answer that on Mishko
;D
Even though you don't deserve it - I will...and you can read in details here on board (I think someone could direct you to that whole thread.../just do a search and put my name/...)
Again - everyone in the world was informed about SERIOUS DRUG DEALING, DISTRIBUTION, IMPORTATION, POSSESSION...ETC...ETC charges that I was facing.
Rumors were going around that I am kingpin of steroid distribution in the US (and possibly World?)...
After EVERYTHING was said and done - federal agents didn't have A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE to charge me with neither: distribution, possession, importation, any kind of dealing whatsoever...thus - indictment charges were dismissed!
However, feds did have ONE SINGLE E-MAIL that I have sent to my friend (DJ) where I was telling him what I was planning to use for the 2003 NOC...and wording of that Email could be interpreted that I was looking for few products - thus CONSPIRACY TO POSSES charge was applied.
Conspiracy to posses means - feds ONLY needed to prove to jury that I had intention to get those products in my possession for my personal use.
They didn't need to prove that I indeed got the products...just that I planned to obtain them and than use them (for the 2003 NOC).
After spending A LOT OF MONEY on my defense...I had a choice to make - go to the court and fight these charges and possibly LOOSE which means felony + God knows how much more money I would take out of my family (daughter's education?) - OR accept a slap on the wrist: misdemeanor charges and informal probation for a year (which everyone knows is NOT COMMON in federal cases...ie - it is formality when feds do get a last word and don't get embarrassed for barking on the wrong tree).
So there you have it Knny...
Again some of us can SPEAK and some of us have no testicles...Did you check yours lately (ever?)...
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If you were 100% innocent....why were you on probation & slapped with a fine?
I've been accused of stuff in my past....but when I was declared INNOCENT....I walked clear....no fines....no probation.
Answer that on Mishko
;D
What were you accused of Knny?
Answer that on(e) Knny
;D
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Thank god the IFBB didn't get to read that e-mail with their strict enforcement of their Drug rules you may have ended up with a suspension.Hmmmmmm.
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After spending A LOT OF MONEY on my defense...I had a choice to make - go to the court and fight these charges and possibly LOOSE which means felony + God knows how much more money I would take out of my family (daughter's education?) - OR accept a slap on the wrist: misdemeanor charges and informal probation for a year (which everyone knows is NOT COMMON in federal cases...ie - it is formality when feds do get a last word and don't get embarrassed for barking on the wrong tree).
So there you have it Knny...
Again some of us can SPEAK and some of us have no testicles...Did you check yours lately (ever?)...
If I am 100% innocent....I wouldn't plea.......at ALL.
If I knew myself to be anywhere between 100% guilty of a crime or even 1% guilty of being an accessory to a crime....then I'll take the plea before being convicted.
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What were you accused of Knny?
Answer that on(e) Knny
;D
Wouldn't you like to know?
;D
Trying to take focus off yourself by asking me of my past....is pretty funny Mishko.
Let's just say.......
I was found 100% innocent....no fines....no probations.
Just plain old accusations & nothing I would settle a plea for.
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Eh...even if I say that I was complete idiot (which I was) to make such a cardinal mistake (which I repeatedly admitted) and warned many about it (for their own sake)...I will still get nothing but LOVE from my getbigger's...
Oh well...
Yes ALEXXXX - (even though you lost privilege to communicate with me - but I'll give you the pleasure of answering your charge...) I did exactly that...
And that is how many guys got themself in trouble.
They start with just a little bit here and there and in the beginning - it is not noticeable...
Than they start putting more and more - not realizing what they are really doing...
Soon - their anatomy changes and their muscles start looking weird (anatomically incorrect)...so they start adjusting...or trying to correct the mistake - while they are just doing MORE DAMAGE and making it worst...
That was exactly the case with me...
I saw how stupid my arms started to look (incredible biceps peak) so I tried to "even out"...and I made it 10 times worse...
There is NOTHING else that I can say but that my arms look STUPID...and therefore - I deserve EVERYTHING that I got...
Back in 1999 I was actually starting to beat many of the guys (Jay, Dexter, Vince, Nasser, Gunter, Markus, Darrem...) and after that I only went down...
OK?
I made just another example of myself - with hope that IF anyone thinks of doing synthol - please just look at those pics above...
Also - to add something very important: initial growth (increase in size) soon became complete atrophy - and actually LOSS of size...
So any which way you look at it - it is just NOT worth it...
Have you gotten that Binais dude on your team to stop shooting oil in his arms?
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No Gibber you have me mixed up with someone who cares.The point is all this DRUG use and BBs admitting to it and no suspension from IFBB but Lee competes in PDI and all hell breaks out.Why one Rule and not another.That is my question.
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Oh yes...I did...and that's why my otherwise OK calves atrophied too - so I have another problem area to focus on...
But, that's OK...
Things are getting back in order...I do have intention to be at my best...
With help and support from Miss Karen (and few others) - I think I can do just that...
Thanks for taking your time to answer my question.
I don't think Milos would lie to anyone even if his life depended on it.
Hope to see you on stage soon with all your REAL muscles, Bix 8)
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I finally got around to reading some of this thread and I must say Mustafa is a big A-hole, I know people like him and they are some of the most pathetic people in the world. Anyway it would be nice for Milos to make a comeback and place above Mustafa in a show and then demand the money he is owed ;D
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All this boils down to (now see if you can follow the logic):
- 1 Mustafa owes Milos some amount (say $250 since Milos won't tell)
- 2 Milos owes several unnamed people an undetermined amount (Knny won't tell)
- 3 Milos publically incriminated, and is trying to humulate, Mustafa
- 4 Mustafa will never pay Milos back because Milos publically humulated/slandared him
- 5 Milos can't shut up about this all to calm Mustafa down so he'll be willing to pay Milos back
- 6 Milos views what he is doing as justice. Mustafa views it as revenge.
- 7 Since Milos knows he won't get his money back (see point #4), Milos is trying to publically humulate Mustafa for revenge (see point #6).
- 8 The people who Milos owes money to are reading this and just now realizing they will never see their money either
- 9 It is a one way street with Milos. People he owes don't get paid (see points #2 & #8). People who owe Milos get publically humulated and slandared as a method of revenge (see points #1-7).
Calling it like it is.
Well, that's more like it...(After all you did make some sense...Some ;)) and your post deserve my answer:
1) It started with $17000.00 and Mustafa did pay some money back...
2) I believe people I owe money to could be Christopher Columbus, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla...and few others (but we will never know as Knny won't tell ;))
3) IT WAS TIME THAT SOMEONE WARNS OTHERS ABOUT MUSTAFA (who has long history of doing the same to many people...and I did mention some names...)
4) Mustafa is paying me back...and will pay me every cent...
5) People bring this issue up - and I answer - just like everything else I am asked (read my threads to realize I answer even personal questions that I should not...)
6) I am doing the justice...off course
7) Read #4
8) Those people exist only in Knny's world...(mouse hole...and Disneyland...Read: there are NO people in this world I borrowed money from and did not pay them back)
9) No need to answer this one...as ONE out of two things NEVER happened...
Now - that is just a little bit better Garraeth (www.Mustafaowesmoneytoal tofpeople.com)
8)
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I feel special...all warm and tingly inside. And your reply deserves my answer.
And I thought it was half a million or some shit. What's all the hub-bub over a couple thousand? Good message board fodder I guess.
You thought it was half a million? That's what "say $250" means?
Amount was not important - I only finally mentioned it -as it seemed so IMPORTANT TO YOU to make a point...
Now - do I need to explain anything else?
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What's all the hub-bub over a couple thousand?
Hey Garraeth,
Mind if I borrow $17,000? It's only a few thousand, so you won't mind if I don't pay it back, right? ::) ::) ::)
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Now - do I need to explain anything else?
Nah....it's not like you're guilty of anything
;D
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What were you accused of Knny?
Answer that on(e) Knny
;D
Being a whiny lil' Internet geek (16,000 posts) but sadly that isn't punishable by law. ;)
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Being a whiny lil' Internet geek (16,000 posts) but sadly that isn't punishable by law. ;)
damn straight Bobby
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damn straight Bobby
Who's Bobby? ??? Bobby Jone's dead kid... ;D
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Who's Bobby? ??? Bobby Jone's dead kid... ;D
You....
your name is Bobby Trendy.
;)
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You....
your name is Bobby Trendy.
;)
Hahaha, oh yeah, I had lunch with him the other day and he told me shoves yer head into the toilet everyday for kicks...now's he's passed you over to me but I'd rather leaveyou for the dogs... ;)
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1) It started with $17000.00 and Mustafa did pay some money back...
Milos what kind of an arrangement did you have with Mustafa? When did he promise to pay you back?
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Mustafa has a better chance of winning the powerball lotto then actually winning any real money on the olympia stage.. :-\
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Mustafa has a better chance of winning the powerball lotto then actually winning any real money on the olympia stage.. :-\
LOL @ powerball lotto!
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Good point. Milos are you adding in your hourly fees for training Mustafa as part of what you say he owes?
Cuz if that's the case, that's not fair. We're all talking about loaning cash -- not sweat equity in an investment (that investment being Mustafa).
If you count sweat equity in failed projects, f**k, I've got several million that people owe me. ::)
As much as must of you don't deserve my answer - I keep answering ...as I have nothing to hide.
No, I never charged Mustafa any of my training fees.
The reason that I decided to help him was TWO trips to emergency room with him - back in 2004.
He put himself in trouble doing something that could have killed him...(and for that many people believe that it was MY MISTAKE and that I was the one giving him bad advice that almost took his life!).
Well, I had nothing to do with it...
Only when I was called to assist the IFBB athlete in trouble (after 2004 Mr. Olympia) I found out what Mustafa was really doing.
Because I knew that mistake of paramedics could take his life (administering potassium in case of hyperkalemia WOULD stop his heart) I insisted to be in paramedics car on the way to the hospital...
In the car Mustafa grabbed my arm and asked me to promise him that I would take care of his family if he dies!
I didn't even know his family and I promised him that I will (take care...) but that I will not let him die...
Spending the whole night and talking to him brought us together...
Week later in Amsterdam after yet another close call - when Mustafa made things even worse and almost killed himself again - I spent another sleepless night with him (this time in Dutch hospital) and than I offered him: that if he needs my help for the competition I WILL HELP HIM...free of charge.
Well, he showed up in Fullerton 3 and a half weeks before New York show 2005 - COMPLETELY OUT OF SHAPE and wanting me to help him get in shape...
As he didn't have anything else arranged - I put him in the hotel (at my expense - which is not included in "LOAN" amount...and besides that I helped him with most of the other expenses during his stay. Again none of that was included in "loan amount"...)
Mustafa also did not arrange hotel in New York...and in the last minute that ended up as my additional expense (two rooms X 3 nights in New Jersey could be quite expensive...plus cab fairs and everything else that comes with "territory"... ALL my expense - which I never included in "loan amount").
As he didn't place well - he didn't make any money - so I had to assist him with some cash - to at least buy some gifts for his family...
All that I gladly did - as I considered him a friend...He was guest in my house, my mother's house...etc
I also suggested him to come back before the Olympia and redeem himself by competing and placing on the money in Europa and Charlotte show...
He suppose to come back ready to step on stage...but as I picked him up six days before Texas I realized (and Luke witnessed it) that Mustafa is nowhere close to be in shape...to the point that he would look like very much out of shape guest poser...
Plan to go to those two shows and get attention of the judges became nightmare for me - but I already made all the travel and accommodation plans (ALL MY EXPENSE - again not included into the loan amount... Whoever travels enough can assume what kind of money we are talking about here...).
Did I mention that he was again (second time around) staying FREE OF CHARGE in Fullerton for over a month...
So for those of you that judge me for being "after Mustafa" and trying to destroy his reputation...think again.
I spent MORE than what I loaned him - as a gift (support) to someone I considered a friend...
Than he tricked me into giving him additional loan and he did that with a plan...
What I learned later is that I am not the first one that he took advantage off...That is his "lifestyle"...
Also, after everything he had a nerve to call me and threaten me that he will kill me IF I dare to say this to anyone...
Month later at the Ironman he would yell across the hall walking up to me with the biggest smile wanting to hug me and calling me: "Milos, my brotheeeeeerrrr..."
Well, few days after that - I publicly answered to someone who was asking me what was the problem with me and Mustafa during the Ironman...
There you have it. I hope that answers your:
"Cuz if that's the case, that's not fair. We're all talking about loaning cash -- not sweat equity in an investment (that investment being Mustafa)."
I am talking about loaning the CASH not sweat equity (which would have been enormeous - but I never charged him for it) plus as I just explained ALL THE ADDITIONAL GIFTS (8 weeks of hotel accomodation in Fullerton, hotels in New York, Texas and Charlotte plus airfairs....all my "support the friend in need" additional expense NOT even mentioned until now).
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As much as must of you don't deserve my answer - I keep answering ...as I have nothing to hide.
No, I never charged Mustafa any of my training fees.
The reason that I decided to help him was TWO trips to emergency room with him - back in 2004.
He put himself in trouble doing something that could have killed him...(and for that many people believe that it was MY MISTAKE and that I was the one giving him bad advice that almost took his life!).
Well, I had nothing to do with it...
Only when I was called to assist the IFBB athlete in trouble (after 2004 Mr. Olympia) I found out what Mustafa was really doing.
Because I knew that mistake of paramedics could take his life (administering potassium in case of hyperkalemia WOULD stop his heart) I insisted to be in paramedics car on the way to the hospital...
In the car Mustafa grabbed my arm and asked me to promise him that I would take care of his family if he dies!
I didn't even know his family and I promised him that I will (take care...) but that I will not let him die...
Spending the whole night and talking to him brought us together...
Week later in Amsterdam after yet another close call - when Mustafa made things even worse and almost killed himself again - I spent another sleepless night with him (this time in Dutch hospital) and than I offered him: that if he needs my help for the competition I WILL HELP HIM...free of charge.
Well, he showed up in Fullerton 3 and a half weeks before New York show 2005 - COMPLETELY OUT OF SHAPE and wanting me to help him get in shape...
As he didn't have anything else arranged - I put him in the hotel (at my expense - which is not included in "LOAN: amount...and besides that I helped him with most of the other expenses during his stay. Again none of that was included in "loan amount"...)
Mustafa also did not arrange hotel in New York...and in the last minute that ended up as my additional expense (two rooms X 3 nights in New Jersey could be quite expensive...plus cab fairs and everything else that comes with "territory"... ALL my expense - which I never included in "loan amount").
As he didn't place well - he didn't make any money - so I had to assist him with some cash - to at least buy some gifts for his family...
All that I gladly did it - as I considered him a friend...
I also suggested him to come back before the Olympia and redeem himself by competing and placing on the money in Europa and Charlotte show...
He suppose to come back ready to step on stage...but as I picked him up six days before Texas I realized (and Luke witnessed it) that Mustafa is nowhere close to be in shape...to the point that he would look like very much out of shape guest poser...
Plan to go to those two shows and get attention of the judges became nightmare for me - but I already made all the travel and accommodation plans (ALL MY EXPENSE - again not included into the loan amount... Whoever travels enough can assume what kind of money we are talking about here...).
Did I mention that he was again staying FREE OF CHARGE in Fullerton for over a month...
So for those of you that judge me for being "after Mustafa" and trying to destroy his reputation...think again.
I spent MORE than what I loaned him - as a gift (support) to someone I considered a friend...
Than he tricked me into giving him additional loan and he did that with a plan...
What I learned later is that I am not the first one that he took advantage off...That is his "lifestyle"...
Also, after everything he had a nerve to call me and threaten me that he will kill me IF I dare to say this to anyone...
Month later at the Ironman he would yell across the hall walking up to me with the biggest smile wanting to hug me and calling me: "Milos, my brotheeeeeerrrr..."
Well, few days after that - I publicly answered to someone who was asking me what was the problem with me and Mustafa during the Ironman...
There you have it. I hope that answers your:
"Cuz if that's the case, that's not fair. We're all talking about loaning cash -- not sweat equity in an investment (that investment being Mustafa)."
I am talking about loaning the CASH not sweat equity (which would have been enormeous - but I never charged him for it) plus as I just explained ALL THE ADDITIONAL GIFTS (8 weeks of hotel accomodation in Fullerton, hotels in New York, Texas and Charlotte plus airfairs....all my "support the friend in need" additional expense NOT even mentioned until now).
I will say....it's very commendable helping Mustafa when he was pratically on his death bed.
Most people will just turn their heads & look the other way.
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I will say....it's very commendable helping Mustafa when he was pratically on his death bed.
Most people will just turn their heads & look the other way.
Imagine the expense if he HAD died. Taking care of his family... would get plenty expensive in the long run.
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Milos you go on and on about how bad the IFBB judging is and Judging is crap.Well when are you going to take a stand on the low low amounts of Money Promoters pay in Pro shows you know it's a JOKE.$10000 to be paid from 2nd to 5th.$1000 for a 5th place in a Pro show.The Pros would spend that much on chicken for a comp.It's way past the time for Promoters to pay more even Joe and Ben should put back to the sport that made them $$$$$$$$$$Rich.If Pros were paid well you would never have this PROBLEM of being out of pocket.You hate Shawn but at least he puts up the Bucks$$$ and gives back to the sport.It's your turn to Promote Milos.Stand up.
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hahaha, yeah wtf Milos? You're pissed because you helped him on his deathbed and he's not paying you back because he "owes" you? omg. Talk about cheap. f**k. I'd pay anyone's hospital bill if they couldn't and they were on their death bed -- and NOT ask them to pay it back.
And Mustafa was obviously not sitting there thinking..."ohh what can I get from Milos?" Fucken-a. This whole time you gave the impression that Mustafa was some sort of fucken scam artist and it's just that he's kinda stupid and was unprepared a couple times -- oh and about died -- and you made sure to mark that one down on his bill. ::)
No wonder you never wanted to give any details on the "Deal" between you and Mustafa -- it's a friggen joke.
Milos you have NEVER DEALT with a true con-artist. Where do you get off claiming the Mustafa was some evil con who stole from you?
....omg what a warped perception you cheap bastard. You're sitting there tallying up each and every penny that you put out for him. f**k. I've got friends who pay for whole trips for me to Las Vegas, or $300 dinners, or hotels when I'm at work late, put me up for weeks when I'm having money problems, etc. haahahahahaahhahaaha
ok milos you win. ::)
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douche
Are you drunk, on drugs or just plain stupid (or all the above?)...
Who said it was his hospital bill?
And how did you come up with that?
I said - that is how I got to know Mustafa and as he is dangerous to himself (didn't know how to get ready without getting himself into emergency rooms all over the world) - I offered him HELP...free of charge.
Than AS A FRIEND helped him and supported him with everything else I mentioned...and AFTER ALL THAT he asked me for a loan - to save his business, family...etc...
LOAN was suppose to be returned weeks later...He got 12 grand at the Olympia and supposedly didn't get the money for weeks (at least that's what he was telling me...) When I did find out that he already deposited that check but lied to me and said otherwise - I realized what he was all about...
Anyway, ease up on whatever you are doing...it is affecting your way of thinking...Besides, you as a biggest Mustafa's fan should invest some money for him (pay for his liposuction...or something like that...)
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Milos you go on and on about how bad the IFBB judging is and Judging is crap.Well when are you going to take a stand on the low low amounts of Money Promoters pay in Pro shows you know it's a JOKE.$10000 to be paid from 2nd to 5th.$1000 for a 5th place in a Pro show.The Pros would spend that much on chicken for a comp.It's way past the time for Promoters to pay more even Joe and Ben should put back to the sport that made them $$$$$$$$$$Rich.If Pros were paid well you would never have this PROBLEM of being out of pocket.You hate Shawn but at least he puts up the Bucks$$$ and gives back to the sport.It's your turn to Promote Milos.Stand up.
Shawn puts up the Bucks ::)...Well Miss Karen than you still must believe in Santa and wait by the chimney every Christmas...
But what this has to do with me and Mustafa?
I said G-zillion times the same thing - it is the shame to know that prize money is still as low as it is...but who else is doing something about it?
If guys DO GET together (for once) and make some decisions - we could get somewhere...
But, when 5 people show up at athletes meeting - don't expect any changes at all...
I will promote KOLOSEUM CLASSIC some time soon...and I do support many athletes for years - and give back to sport ALL THE TIME...I don't need a "reminder" as this is something that comes naturally for me...
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What it has to do with Mustafa is that if Pros got paid more than $1000 for 5th place he might not have needed to borrow or he may have even paid it straight back.I don't hear Golfers or Tennis players borrowing money not the Pros anyway.Good to see your gym classic now step up and run a Pro Show.Shawn puts up 70k so give it a try you might like it and even make money.
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Milos, what do you think of Mustafa's posing routines first hand? Dramatic and entertaining? In shape, Mustafa has awesome physique I must say so th ebase is there...
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Sounds like Milos is a softie... gee if a guy you are supposed to help dial in shows up way out of shape 3 weeks out what you should do is send him back to the airport and on his way home.
Milos, didn't you feel insulted as a trainer when he turned up fat after you offered to help him for free?
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Milos, what do you think of Mustafa's posing routines first hand? Dramatic and entertaining? In shape, Mustafa has awesome physique I must say so th ebase is there...
you like those soiled posing trunks you purchased?
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MILOS IS IN THE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOTTOM LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What it has to do with Mustafa is that if Pros got paid more than $1000 for 5th place he might not have needed to borrow or he may have even paid it straight back.I don't hear Golfers or Tennis players borrowing money not the Pros anyway.Good to see your gym classic now step up and run a Pro Show.Shawn puts up 70k so give it a try you might like it and even make money.
Shawn puts up someone else's money Miss Karen ::)
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Milos, what do you think of Mustafa's posing routines first hand? Dramatic and entertaining? In shape, Mustafa has awesome physique I must say so th ebase is there...
Mustafa is MASTER POSER...One of the very best.
I love his style, execution of every pose...stage presence, transitions...pretty much - everything.
He is also phenomenal bodybuilder...Could be the very best - IF HE only gets serious and diets hard (and long) enough + do some cardio (I guess cardio is not in his religion...so he just doesn't do it...)
Mustafa is NOT my enemy.
We were friends...and he was welcomed to my home...etc
The fact is - he owes me a money and also he owes many other people a lot of money...
But - as much as I would say that he is con artist who tricks people into giving him a loan (that he have no intention ever paying back) I must say that he is phenomenal potential as a bodybuilder and IF dialed in - he could possibly be at the very top...
That's the truth...
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Milos,
Do you think if he every dials it in correctly and places well top 5 or better that he will start paying you back. I mean if he can dial it in for a smaller show like the the the Europa etc, he could build some momentum and get the ball rolling. At least with the Olympia now the top 6 are getting paid. It only takes a little time ie Gustavo, Freeman to make a splash. He has the muscle and presentation skills to get the job done. That would really put an end to the bitterness. And you have every right to be angry of course.
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Milos,
Do you think if he every dials it in correctly and places well top 5 or better that he will start paying you back. I mean if he can dial it in for a smaller show like the the the Europa etc, he could build some momentum and get the ball rolling. At least with the Olympia now the top 6 are getting paid. It only takes a little time ie Gustavo, Freeman to make a splash. He has the muscle and presentation skills to get the job done. That would really put an end to the bitterness. And you have every right to be angry of course.
Mustafa can win some shows and place very high at the Olympia IF he comes ready...
Problem is - even with all the money in the world con artists find the reason not to pay back people they owe money to...
Well, I have been collecting my money from every show where he made some prize money from ;)
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Well if Mustafa has a decent bone left, at least a portion of any future winnings will have your name on it. Are you still working with Dim and is he planning anything for 07. With Priest gone this might be an opportunity for him.
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Are you drunk, on drugs or just plain stupid (or all the above?)...
Who said it was his hospital bill?
And how did you come up with that?
I said - that is how I got to know Mustafa and as he is dangerous to himself (didn't know how to get ready without getting himself into emergency rooms all over the world) - I offered him HELP...free of charge.
Than AS A FRIEND helped him and supported him with everything else I mentioned...and AFTER ALL THAT he asked me for a loan - to save his business, family...etc...
LOAN was suppose to be returned weeks later...He got 12 grand at the Olympia and supposedly didn't get the money for weeks (at least that's what he was telling me...) When I did find out that he already deposited that check but lied to me and said otherwise - I realized what he was all about...
Anyway, ease up on whatever you are doing...it is affecting your way of thinking...Besides, you as a biggest Mustafa's fan should invest some money for him (pay for his liposuction...or something like that...)
I had a couple of "friends" who were the same way
the best thing is to stay as far as possible from those people
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Well if Mustafa has a decent bone left, at least a portion of any future winnings will have your name on it. Are you still working with Dim and is he planning anything for 07. With Priest gone this might be an opportunity for him.
Kris is doing early shows next year...
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Im back in Australia now and been off line for a few days and i still the dripple here on this thread still going! ::)
I read a post back a ways that IF i was to beat Milos at the Aussie Grand Prix that i will become his GURU!!! LOL!!!! Yeah right! how do you teach a man who wrote the book on contest prep and second beating Milos!!! OK he may be 43 by than, but the older the Violin the sweeter the music right! plus he is older but much wiser!! there are alot of tricks in his bag! i really do feel that Milos can still be on the Olympia stage again!! Vince Taylor at this years Mr Olympia at age 50 beat, Branch Warren, Jonny Jackson, Darrem Charles, Troy Alves, Dave Henry, Dennis Wolf and a few others! so age means nothing!
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Im back in Australia now and been off line for a few days and i still the dripple here on this thread still going! ::)
I read a post back a ways that IF i was to beat Milos at the Aussie Grand Prix that i will become his GURU!!! LOL!!!! Yeah right! how do you teach a man who wrote the book on steroid useage and second beating Milos!!! OK he may be 43 by than, but the older the Violin the sweeter the music right! plus he is older but much wiser!! there are alot of tricks in his bag! i really do feel that Milos can still be on the Olympia stage again!! Vince Taylor at this years Mr Olympia at age 50 beat, Branch Warren, Jonny Jackson, Darrem Charles, Troy Alves, Dave Henry, Dennis Wolf and a few others! so age means nothing!
my thoughts exactly
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you like those soiled posing trunks you purchased?
LOL, how many times must I tell you to stop mumbling to yerself like a homo? Nobody likes spastic slaves like you... ;D
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Im back in Australia now and been off line for a few days and i still the dripple here on this thread still going! ::)
I read a post back a ways that IF i was to beat Milos at the Aussie Grand Prix that i will become his GURU!!! LOL!!!! Yeah right! how do you teach a man who wrote the book on contest prep and second beating Milos!!! OK he may be 43 by than, but the older the Violin the sweeter the music right! plus he is older but much wiser!! there are alot of tricks in his bag! i really do feel that Milos can still be on the Olympia stage again!! Vince Taylor at this years Mr Olympia at age 50 beat, Branch Warren, Jonny Jackson, Darrem Charles, Troy Alves, Dave Henry, Dennis Wolf and a few others! so age means nothing!
Yeah, dribble like "knny" we dust off daily! ;D
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LOL.
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LOL, how many times must I tell you to stop mumbling to yerself like a homo? Nobody likes spastic slaves like you... ;D
thats a "yes" folks
;D
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Vince Taylor at this years Mr Olympia at age 50 beat, Branch Warren, Jonny Jackson, Darrem Charles, Troy Alves, Dave Henry, Dennis Wolf and a few others! so age means nothing!
sadly, all those guys were better than Vince :-\
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thats a "yes" folks
;D
So you're admitting you're a fag? ;D
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So you're admitting you're a fag? ;D
what?
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what?
Aw, shut up fag! :D You're now officially my little bitch Knny....
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Aw, shut up fag! :D You're now officially my little bitch Knny....
what?
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what?
I said, shut up fag! You're now officially my little bitch Knny.... ;)
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I said, shut up fag! You're now officially my little bitch Knny.... ;)
What?
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What?
Aw, shut yer trap fag! You're now officially my little bitch Knny.... ;D
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As you said: "Well....I see you're not taking me serious....& you shouldn't" - there is no point of continuing this conversation...
BTW - I look back and didn't find where I misspelled the word business...Did you check yours?
Let me help you:
YOUR POST:
you like that?
Well...writing one line of truth on a message board (just to stir shit) sometimes is my businees. It's my form of entertainment at your expense.
The last sentence of your post which is actually a quote from Knny is a vivid reminder of what you are dealing with here and how sad, pathetic, and immature this guys has spelled his existence out to be, if he seeks entertainment at someone else's "expense"!
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Aw, shut yer trap fag! You're now officially my little bitch Knny.... ;D
what?
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what is your obsession with this guy? he's got tons of water and a massive stomach in that picture.
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well... i still don't like him
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I am not a fan of guys like Branch who are so dry they look nasty.
Nor of mass monsters like Paco or Atwood who look like melting clay.
Nor of big swimmers like Zane or Paris.
Mustafa has amazing mass in good proportion, not so dry his skin looks like tinfoil, an underdog, and I always support/root for those I'm a fan of.
Did I answer your question with sufficient detail?
You=big and fat compared to other people.
Mustafa=big and fat compared to other BB's.
We all understand why you like Mustafa.
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Gary Busey = oddball third-rate actor with an evil looking kid
You = evil looking stalker of kids
We all understand why you like Busey.
Debussey hit the nail right on the head. You are vunerable.
He is your god:
(http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050905/17/1633844880.jpg)
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Cool pic of Mustafa I found...thick back!
the guy in the background pic totally owns Mustafa
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what?
Stop squealing, my little bitch.... ;)
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Stop squealing, my little bitch.... ;)
what?
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MM will eventually get his conditioning. Its bound to happen. I wonder how close to the show he runs his gear. Maybe the prob is test related.
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what?
I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
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I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
what?
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I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
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Kris is doing early shows next year...
You think he will look good enough to get another last min. invite to the ASC.
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I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
what?
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(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/profi_grand_prix_2006_graz/PA064226.JPG)
Mustafa looks scared. Looks like he's about to give Milos that pen to the jugular. Reminiscent of hijackers stabbing someone.
...stupid
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what?
I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
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I said stop squealing, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
what?
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what?
I said stop squealing like a Porker, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
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I said stop squealing like a Porker, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D
what?
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PAY THE MAN!!!!!!!!
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what?
I said stop squealing like a Porker, my deaf/dumb little bitch.... ;D