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Title: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PRO Chemical on June 10, 2008, 03:04:51 PM
From my g4p Source in Idaho

Bulk

60mg Dianabol a day
400mg Deca a week
800mg Primo a week
400mg Test E a week

Cut

400mg  Test E a week
1000mg Primo a week
100mg Anavar a day
5iu GH a day



Flame on bitches
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: lovemonkey on June 10, 2008, 03:22:50 PM
GH was quite the nonexistant hormone in the 70's. Very nice touch.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Emmortal on June 10, 2008, 03:24:35 PM
Epic fail on the GH.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: HTexan on June 10, 2008, 04:10:50 PM
he did say GH.... that had pig gh in the 20s ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Moosejay on June 10, 2008, 05:14:50 PM
GH was quite the nonexistant hormone in the 70's. Very nice touch.

No a true statement.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 10, 2008, 05:57:29 PM
No a true statement.

GH was only avalible to MAJOR athletes who had BIG bucks until 1983, when gentic GH= Humatrope came on the market.

In addition, NO ONE did 1,000+ mg cycles in those days-NO ONE.

Onr top pro I knew was doign 3 d-bols a day for an "off cycle" and on was doing 8 plus d-bol when "on", withj 200-300mg's of deca.

So it was nothing like 1,000mg's or more. More like 350 mg week, for a PRO!@

But this was the real shit, not the fake shit on the market today, so 350mg of real juice =1,000mg of fake juice today.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: marcus on June 10, 2008, 07:41:33 PM
g4p source??
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Moosejay on June 10, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
GH was only avalible to MAJOR athletes who had BIG bucks until 1983, when gentic GH= Humatrope came on the market.

In addition, NO ONE did 1,000+ mg cycles in those days-NO ONE.

Onr top pro I knew was doign 3 d-bols a day for an "off cycle" and on was doing 8 plus d-bol when "on", withj 200-300mg's of deca.

So it was nothing like 1,000mg's or more. More like 350 mg week, for a PRO!@

But this was the real shit, not the fake shit on the market today, so 350mg of real juice =1,000mg of fake juice today.

At the age of 17, I was told by Dr. Michael Walczak that Arnold and Franco were on GH. He did not say he was the supplier, but this was pretty much assumed to be the case.

I don't know the amounts or dsoages, nor do I care to know. Don't know if anyone else was on...just know it easily existed then.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: dantelis on June 10, 2008, 07:48:31 PM
g4p source??

That was the exact thing I was thinking.  WTF?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: HTexan on June 10, 2008, 09:06:28 PM
At the age of 17, I was told by Dr. Michael Walczak that Arnold and Franco were on GH. He did not say he was the supplier, but this was pretty much assumed to be the case.

I don't know the amounts or dsoages, nor do I care to know. Don't know if anyone else was on...just know it easily existed then.
They got it from pigs and cows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_treatment#History
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: TechnoViking on June 10, 2008, 09:20:16 PM
GH was only avalible to MAJOR athletes who had BIG bucks until 1983, when gentic GH= Humatrope came on the market.

In addition, NO ONE did 1,000+ mg cycles in those days-NO ONE.

Onr top pro I knew was doign 3 d-bols a day for an "off cycle" and on was doing 8 plus d-bol when "on", withj 200-300mg's of deca.

So it was nothing like 1,000mg's or more. More like 350 mg week, for a PRO!@

But this was the real shit, not the fake shit on the market today, so 350mg of real juice =1,000mg of fake juice today.

Bro, some wrestlers were taking 100 dball a day..A couple guys even wrote books about it...Sometimes they wouldn't even count the pills and just take a handful...Look up Tony Atlas and read what he did alone...And he wasn't even the worst of them...

The amount of Mg's anyone takes is Irrelevant...It all depends on how you react to hormones and the biggest thing is what kind of constitution do you have...In other words, can your liver/kidneys take what you are putting in it...It really all boils down to that...

This day and age, with the ability for athletes to get real time blood results...There is no reason why anyone(with Money) has to kill themselves with drugs...That is of course as long as they they are reading the numbers right and most of all getting the bloodwork done in the first place..
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 10, 2008, 11:18:09 PM
I know that Arnold's d-bol was in the 200-400 mg a day range ...
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 10, 2008, 11:20:09 PM
I know that Arnold's d-bol was in the 200-400 mg a day range ...
lol i would not doubt iut
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 10, 2008, 11:37:28 PM
 to be orals, and tons of them....now it's mega test dosage, slin,hgh, igf1 etc....I believe arnold took as much AS HE COULD.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 10, 2008, 11:39:23 PM
I know that Arnold's d-bol was in the 200-400 mg a day range ...

Hahahahah you fucking idiot...considering the original CIBA dbol came in 5mg tabs that would be a shitload of tabs to take in one day.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 10, 2008, 11:41:16 PM
Hahahahah you fucking idiot...considering the original CIBA dbol came in 5mg tabs that would be a shitload of tabs to take in one day.

exactly...now who's the fucking idiot ?

I'll say that 200 is normal tor d-bol ... a lotof people use 150-200 A day and as much as 400-500 at most.

u need to get out more
 dumbo.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 10, 2008, 11:44:47 PM
exactly...now who's the fucking idiot ?

I'll say that 200 is normal tor d-bol ... a lotof people use 150-200 A day and as much as 400-500 at most.

u need to get out more
 dumbo.

ROFL...yeah only idiots like you who take 100mg of dbol and put on 6lbs. of muscle... most of us normal folk don't need to take more then 40-50mg.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 11, 2008, 12:38:10 AM
ROFL...yeah only idiots like you who take 100mg of dbol and put on 6lbs. of muscle... most of us normal folk don't need to take more then 40-50mg.

You mean you get the most off of 50mg, I doubt it. Arnold use to take d-bol like candy, are you calling him an idiot?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2008, 01:09:19 AM
You mean you get the most off of 50mg, I doubt it. Arnold use to take d-bol like candy, are you calling him an idiot?
he takes 50 mg and also is half my size when I took 100...big boys take 200 + for short periods
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 11, 2008, 01:09:54 AM
From my g4p Source in Idaho

Bulk

60mg Dianabol a day
400mg Deca a week
800mg Primo a week
400mg Test E a week

Cut

400mg  Test E a week
1000mg Primo a week
100mg Anavar a day
5iu GH a day



Flame on bitches

epic fail.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: LatsMcGee on June 11, 2008, 01:21:13 AM
This thread fucking sucks.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Figo on June 11, 2008, 02:42:05 AM
gh15 will settle this infantile debate for us soon...
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Mobil on June 11, 2008, 02:56:38 AM
whats funny is decca puts mass on some but it makes me ripped as hell.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 11, 2008, 03:49:15 AM
he takes 50 mg and also is half my size when I took 100...big boys take 200 + for short periods

Half your size ?!?! ROFL, I don't think ANYONE on getbig is half your size.... you fucking idiot I'm 260, my pics up are up all over the board... why am I even bothering Squadfather annihilated your gypsy ass enough times already, go steal some jewelery or something...fucking swimmer
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2008, 05:55:01 AM
Half your size ?!?! ROFL, I don't think ANYONE on getbig is half your size.... you fucking idiot I'm 260, my pics up are up all over the board... why am I even bothering Squadfather annihilated your gypsy ass enough times already, go steal some jewelery or something...fucking swimmer

meltdooown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 11, 2008, 06:19:17 AM
meltdooown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ::) ::)

do us all a favor and delete your account, no one here likes you.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: TrueGrit on June 11, 2008, 06:26:23 AM
winstrol was surely used
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2008, 06:59:47 AM
::) ::)

do us all a favor and delete your account, no one here likes you.
double melt..wow you on fire today shatzy
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 11, 2008, 07:31:05 AM
double melt..wow you on fire today shatzy

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2008, 08:09:11 AM
::) ::)
::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: chainsaw on June 11, 2008, 08:42:24 AM
You all are wrong.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: wes on June 11, 2008, 08:46:25 AM
Back then guys used the original D-Bol which was manufactured by CIBA Labs...........legit stuff and you could make gains on 15 mgs. a day.

The only person who knows what a person used in a cycle is the user.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 11, 2008, 08:50:14 AM
Back then guys used the original D-Bol which was manufactured by CIBA Labs...........legit stuff and you could make gains on 15 mgs. a day.

The only person who knows what a person used in a cycle is the user.

problem with Dbol is that it is all water weight, no real muscle mass.

Deca and anavar gave great results, with real muscle gains.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 11, 2008, 08:55:49 AM
problem with Dbol is that it is all water weight, no real muscle mass.

Deca and anavar gave great results, with real muscle gains.

So you feel Dianabol has no effect whatsoever on protein synthesis or protein breakdown?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 11, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
So you feel Dianabol has no effect whatsoever on protein synthesis or protein breakdown?

Mostly water weight. Very little muscle gains.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 11, 2008, 09:27:52 AM
Mostly water weight. Very little muscle gains.

Not true at all. Arnold from what I have heard from a very credible source used up to 20 5mg Ciba a day.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 11, 2008, 05:17:51 PM
Not true at all. Arnold from what I have heard from a very credible source used up to 20 5mg Ciba a day.

Arnolds favorite steriod was Winstrol..aka Winnie V, pretty well known.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 11, 2008, 05:20:02 PM
From my g4p Source in Idaho

Bulk

60mg Dianabol a day
400mg Deca a week
800mg Primo a week
400mg Test E a week

Cut

400mg  Test E a week
1000mg Primo a week
100mg Anavar a day
5iu GH a day



Flame on bitches

weider cum
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: hipolito mejia on June 11, 2008, 05:21:20 PM
You all are wrong.



Actually there are 2 guys right on the money... Pro chemical dont know about the dosages but the drugs are pretty much it.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Zaphod on June 11, 2008, 05:26:13 PM
From my g4p Source in Idaho

Bulk

60mg Dianabol a day
400mg Deca a week
800mg Primo a week
400mg Test E a week

Cut

400mg  Test E a week
1000mg Primo a week
100mg Anavar a day
5iu GH a day



Flame on bitches

massive failure on a brutal scale
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Pollux on June 11, 2008, 05:49:57 PM
At the age of 17, I was told by Dr. Michael Walczak that Arnold and Franco were on GH. He did not say he was the supplier, but this was pretty much assumed to be the case.

That honor went to Kurt Marnul.  ;)

(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2578638.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6CE59FD1F74BE52FD9930FDCFC4C15FBB)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 11, 2008, 06:44:15 PM
That honor went to Kurt Marnul.  ;)

(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2578638.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6CE59FD1F74BE52FD9930FDCFC4C15FBB)

Not Kurt Marnul, at least not GH. Steroids yes, but that is it.

BTW Non human GH does not work in humans. In the early 80's moneky GH was supposedly availible on the black market, but it turned out to be bullshit.

Marnal trained with Arnold in Thal Austria, when Arnold was between 15 and 18. At age 18 Arnold went in the Austrian Army, then he went to manage a gym in Germany, where he met Franco. In 1969, at the age of 22 Arnold came to America-so Marnal had been out of the picture for at least 5 years before stepping foot in America.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 11, 2008, 06:49:53 PM
Didn't Marnul state that Arnold started the steroids at 13?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Rearden Metal on June 11, 2008, 07:13:00 PM
meltdooown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more like he just owned your ass. But not in the manner you'd prefer.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The.Giant on June 11, 2008, 07:47:15 PM
Didn't Marnul state that Arnold started the steroids at 13?

14 or 15
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 11, 2008, 07:49:53 PM
Mostly water weight. Very little muscle gains.
:o uuuuhhhhhhhhh

eeererrrrrrrrrr

eeeeeeehhhhhhh


hhhhmmmmmm????

 :o
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Old-Skool on June 11, 2008, 08:03:28 PM
1) Stick hand out like begging for money
2) Fill palm with Ciba d-balls. DO NOT COUNT TABS. FILL PALM.
3) Train
4) Eat
5) Bang anything with a female heartbeat
6) Sleep

"The Real Arnol Six Phase Attack" ;)

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: HTexan on June 11, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
1) Stick hand ass out like begging for money
2) Fill palm with Ciba d-balls. DO NOT COUNT TABS. FILL PALM.
3) Train
4) Eat
5) Bang anything with a female heartbeat, and pretend it cancels out the private posing
6) Sleep

"The Real Arnol Six Phase Attack" ;)


Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Old-Skool on June 11, 2008, 08:10:49 PM
You jaded basterds....private posing wasnt invented until Derek Anthony got old enough... ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: HTexan on June 11, 2008, 08:55:37 PM
You jaded basterds....private posing wasnt invented until Derek Anthony got old enough... ;D
lol
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: WillGrant on June 12, 2008, 03:23:20 AM
Arnolds favorite steriod was Winstrol..aka Winnie V, pretty well known.
Thought it was D-Bol and later Primobolan.. ???
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Pollux on June 12, 2008, 04:14:28 AM
Didn't Marnul state that Arnold started the steroids at 13?

No. Rick Wayne said that Arnold had told him he had been taking them since he was 13, yet Kurt Marnul claims Arnold started taking them at 15, so who the hell knows.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: webcake on June 12, 2008, 04:16:08 AM
You see?!

This is why we need an Arnold Board. Any thread with the great ones name in it is always a very popular thread.

RON ARE YOU LISTENING?!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2008, 04:18:30 AM
You see?!

This is why we need an Arnold Board. Any thread with the great ones name in it is always a very popular thread.

RON ARE YOU LISTENING?!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Pollux on June 12, 2008, 04:28:40 AM
You see?!

This is why we need an Arnold Board. Any thread with the great ones name in it is always a very popular thread.

RON ARE YOU LISTENING?!

Amen!

Get rid of that fuckin' Titus Board already!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2008, 05:48:10 AM
The only person who knows what a person used in a cycle is the user.

Yes.
And the only person who truly knows what Arnold took is ARNOLD.












...and GH15

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 12, 2008, 05:51:25 AM
Yes.
And the only person who truly knows what Arnold took is ARNOLD.












...and GH15



I want Arnold as a mod for the Arnold board.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2008, 05:53:31 AM
anavar was good drug ,made muscles hard ,good strenght gain.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 12, 2008, 05:53:45 AM
arnold took alot of shit. everything he could get his hands on.

its pure BS that the 70s guys used 'low doses'. sure they didnt have as many different compounds, but the ones they had they abused heavily.

arnie was popping orals left and right.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 12, 2008, 05:58:11 AM
as for what compounds, its well known which ones were the most used back in the 70s.

at the end of the day only arnie knows exactly what he took..but i have spoken with several guys who saw him popping orals like a fat kid eating candy. arnie was a heavy abuser of aas, no question about it.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Montague on June 12, 2008, 07:40:03 AM
I want Arnold as a mod for the Arnold board.

I second that...
Make it happen, Ron.


Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The ChemistV2 on June 12, 2008, 07:56:01 AM
Thought it was D-Bol and later Primobolan.. ???
I went to Gold's in Venice back in Santa Monica in the late 70's for a few weeks when I was a teenager. Actually stayed at Mike Mentzer's apartment for several days with him and his girlfriend. I heard Mike and Kent Keuhn ,who was the manager of Gold's and knew all the top guys back then, talking about drug cycles. Arnold's cycle along with most of the other guys(because they all imitated what he did) was mostly Primobolin and Dianabol.  It was normal for the guys to take up to 10 a day d-bol and maybe 3 to 400 mg primobolin. Arnold didn't take 200mg of d-bol a day. Even though he wanted to be the greatest, he had longer term plans besides competing and didn't want to destroy his liver, plus he didn't stay on more than a few months at a time the last 4 or 5 years he competed. He was off about 7 months and on about 4 or 5. Any one who can't make gains on 50 mg d-bol mixed with 300 mg Primo doesn't know how to train or eat properly or has shitty genetics.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2008, 08:32:25 AM
I went to Gold's in Venice back in Santa Monica in the late 70's for a few weeks when I was a teenager. Actually stayed at Mike Mentzer's apartment for several days with him and his girlfriend. I heard Mike and Kent Keuhn ,who was the manager of Gold's and knew all the top guys back then, talking about drug cycles. Arnold's cycle along with most of the other guys(because they all imitated what he did) was mostly Primobolin and Dianabol.  It was normal for the guys to take up to 10 a day d-bol and maybe 3 to 400 mg primobolin. Arnold didn't take 200mg of d-bol a day. Even though he wanted to be the greatest, he had longer term plans besides competing and didn't want to destroy his liver, plus he didn't stay on more than a few months at a time the last 4 or 5 years he competed. He was off about 7 months and on about 4 or 5. Any one who can't make gains on 50 mg d-bol mixed with 300 mg Primo doesn't know how to train or eat properly or has shitty genetics.
good post.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 12, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
I went to Gold's in Venice back in Santa Monica in the late 70's for a few weeks when I was a teenager. Actually stayed at Mike Mentzer's apartment for several days with him and his girlfriend. I heard Mike and Kent Keuhn ,who was the manager of Gold's and knew all the top guys back then, talking about drug cycles. Arnold's cycle along with most of the other guys(because they all imitated what he did) was mostly Primobolin and Dianabol.  It was normal for the guys to take up to 10 a day d-bol and maybe 3 to 400 mg primobolin. Arnold didn't take 200mg of d-bol a day. Even though he wanted to be the greatest, he had longer term plans besides competing and didn't want to destroy his liver, plus he didn't stay on more than a few months at a time the last 4 or 5 years he competed. He was off about 7 months and on about 4 or 5. Any one who can't make gains on 50 mg d-bol mixed with 300 mg Primo doesn't know how to train or eat properly or has shitty genetics.

Sounds about right, unlike the rampant speculation of most posts by guys who weren't born then. Sergio's stack was a similarly simplistic D and Deca i believe, D being highly effective when coupled with a good quality injectible. The original GH was expensive and came in a little later; the first acknowledged use in mags that i saw was Grymko's detailed articles in the mid-late 1970s.

Winstrol/Anavar not as popular, associated more with strength gains.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 11:02:01 AM
Sounds about right, unlike the rampant speculation of most posts. Sergio's stack was a similarly simplistic D and Deca i believe. GH was expensive and came in a little later; the first acknowledged use in mags that i saw was Grymko's detailed articles in the mid-late 1970s.

Winstrol/Anavar not as popular, associated more with strength gains.



I remember Pete's cycles too. He admitted to doing 500mg of Dbol daily. If any of you guys on here thinks that Arnold did 50mg of Dbol and 300mg of primo to get to his size.............. ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 11:12:44 AM
anavar was good drug ,made muscles hard ,good strenght gain.

Anavar and deca was the ultimate stack for size and expecially strength.

Don't know what they put in Anavar, but it made you strong oas fuck, all the powerlifters lived ion that shit.

arnold took alot of shit. everything he could get his hands on.

its pure BS that the 70s guys used 'low doses'. sure they didnt have as many different compounds, but the ones they had they abused heavily.

arnie was popping orals left and right.

STFU slaveboy, you weren't even born yet, you just fell off the turnup truck.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 12, 2008, 11:15:04 AM
I remember Pete's cycles too. He admitted to doing 500mg of Dbol daily. If any of you guys on here thinks that Arnold did 50mg of Dbol and 300mg of primo to get to his size.............. ::)
UR right cause pete was a freak his shoulders smoked arnolds,and both probably ran in the same circle.frienships in bbing were diffrent then than today i suppose money is much more now,a pro had to work then to support lifestyle,today companies,mag's,guest posing keep a top pro busy enought to earn .
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 11:15:17 AM
Anavar and deca was the ultimate stack for size and expecially strength.

STFU slaveboy, you weren't even born yet, you just fell off the turnup truck.

Actually it's turnip truck.  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 12, 2008, 11:35:55 AM
I remember Pete's cycles too. He admitted to doing 500mg of Dbol daily. If any of you guys on here thinks that Arnold did 50mg of Dbol and 300mg of primo to get to his size.............. ::)

Uh, where did you get 500 mg daily? This sounds like more internet speculation. Anyone with average intelligence gets the law of diminishing returns. Intake in the 50-100 mg range as part of a stack is optimal, above that fairly senseless. Arnold i'd guess was somewhere in that range.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 11:41:10 AM
Actually it's turnip truck.  ;D

LOL...My bad.

I remember Pete's cycles too. He admitted to doing 500mg of Dbol daily. If any of you guys on here thinks that Arnold did 50mg of Dbol and 300mg of primo to get to his size.............. ::)

It is a famous story that Pete Grymko took an entire bottle of D-Bol.  The real question is that story true???

I can tell you that Lee Haney said in the mid 80's said he was taking "10 times more than anyone else" which to me meant he was taking 10 grams a week of juice. Because everyone I knew was below 1 gram per week.

Most every hard core BBer I knew in the mid to late 80's were all at or well below 1 gram per week.

Onlyme would probably be able to verify the Grymko D-bol story, and he also knew the main steriod supplie at WG in that time period, and might be able to verify some of the dosages of that time.

Considering guys today are taking 10 grams per week, and most of the old guys said the only difference bewteen then and today is the amount of drugs used, I just cant see anyone taking more than 1 gram per week, if that, in the old days-70's, 80's.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 12:01:36 PM
Uh, where did you get 500 mg daily? This sounds like more internet speculation. Anyone with average intelligence gets the law of diminishing returns. Intake in the 50-100 mg range as part of a stack is optimal, above that fairly senseless. Arnold i'd guess was somewhere in that range.

Nope, I got it from an old issue of Muscle Biulder and Power. Not a typo since it was stated many times in the article. One whole bottle a day.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 12:03:11 PM
none of you know shit. your just losers sitting on the internet and pulling cycles out of your asses. stop embarrassing yourselves.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
none of you know shit. your just losers sitting on the internet and pulling cycles out of your asses. stop embarrassing yourselves.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 12:33:20 PM
none of you know shit. your just losers sitting on the internet and pulling cycles out of your asses. stop embarrassing yourselves.

Thanks for changing your AVATAR SM!!!!!


I was tired of looking at a butthole  ::)

BTW-is SM squadfather>>>?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PRO Chemical on June 12, 2008, 12:44:13 PM
pff no respect


I took it up the shitter to get this info for you guys !!!!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 12, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
LOL...My bad.

It is a famous story that Pete Grymko took an entire bottle of D-Bol.  The real question is that story true???

I can tell you that Lee Haney said in the mid 80's said he was taking "10 times more than anyone else" which to me meant he was taking 10 grams a week of juice. Because everyone I knew was below 1 gram per week.

Most every hard core BBer I knew in the mid to late 80's were all at or well below 1 gram per week.

Onlyme would probably be able to verify the Grymko D-bol story, and he also knew the main steriod supplie at WG in that time period, and might be able to verify some of the dosages of that time.

Considering guys today are taking 10 grams per week, and most of the old guys said the only difference bewteen then and today is the amount of drugs used, I just cant see anyone taking more than 1 gram per week, if that, in the old days-70's, 80's.

I read somewhere that Grymko said he took 1,500mg of steroids a day and mentioned it here. Onlyme responded that he took more than that.

The difference today = more testosterone, insulin, gh.

Anyone have the Musclemag Intl. with the Grymko interview? I think he talks about his juicing in that one. Couple of years old.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 01:00:35 PM
none of you know shit. your just losers sitting on the internet and pulling cycles out of your asses. stop embarrassing yourselves.

Let's see, speaking of "embarrassing" let's look at your post...

"none of you KNOWS shit", not "know"

"your"="you're"

Uneducated dumbass.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 01:07:38 PM
Let's see, speaking of "embarrassing" let's look at your post...

"none of you KNOWS shit", not "know"

"your"="you're"

Uneducated dumbass.

this coming from trailerman who ran away like the cowardly little shitfuck he is to post under his 'panda' account when owned by Alex and Derek ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
this coming from trailerman who ran away like the cowardly little shitfuck he is to post under his 'panda' account when owned by Alex and Derek ;D

You see, the thing is, I can own your ass into next year just by tearing apart your third grade level posts.

All you can do is claim I'm somebody I'm not--and make yourself look like an even bigger fool in the process :-*
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Luolamies on June 12, 2008, 01:14:16 PM
There's a point were taking more does not yield to better gain, just more problems. If 100 mg of dianabol is not enough to you, then you better switch to soccer or something...

Of course if you're tabs have 2 mg instead of 10 mg then you will get better results from 20 tabs than 3. That is the big issue with UG gear.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 01:24:11 PM
You see, the thing is, I can own your ass into next year just by tearing apart your third grade level posts.

All you can do is claim I'm somebody I'm not--and make yourself look like an even bigger fool in the process :-*

HAHA squadfatter melting down at his gimmick panda account being exposed. Surely fat Maggie has sucked a few hobos off for smokes ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
HAHA squadfatter melting down at his gimmick panda account being exposed. Surely fat Maggie has sucked a few hobos off for smokes ;D

Whatever you say, "derekanthony"... ;)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The.Giant on June 12, 2008, 01:36:15 PM
Let's see, speaking of "embarrassing" let's look at your post...

"none of you KNOWS shit", not "know"

"your"="you're"

Uneducated dumbass.

what a massive fail of a secondary account. Correcting grammar as an insult? Laaaaaaaame. Get your sarcasm account back and stop sucking.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 01:47:01 PM
what a massive fail of a secondary account. Correcting grammar as an insult? Laaaaaaaame. Get your sarcasm account back and stop sucking.

Pipe down, shitbag.

Your opinion is about as relevant as pussy in a gay bath house.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 01:49:37 PM
Pipe down, shitbag.

Your opinion is about as relevant as pussy in a gay bath house.

Pathetic. everyone can see it's you fat Dave. you ran away becuase king Alex and super Derek owned and exposed your hideously obese ass and now your panda account is blown.

HAHAHAAHAHHA Nowhere to run too
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 01:51:04 PM
alex,  panda is not squadfather...
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 01:55:50 PM
  panda is not squadfather...

he is. i know this for a fact. not speculation, fact. trailerman has been cultivating the panda account for quite some time.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 02:00:51 PM
he is. i know this for a fact. not speculation, fact. trailerman has been cultivating the panda account for quite some time.


no, alex, i doubt it very much.

if you really think so you had better brush up on your deciphering skills and your personality judgement techniques. they are nto one in the same. unless SF is bi polar and has split personality disorder and also has some way of using another IP address since his is blocked
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 02:01:47 PM
no, alex, i doubt it very much.

if you really think so you had better brush up on your deciphering skills and your personality judgement techniques. they are nto one in the same. unless SF is bi polar and has split personality disorder and also has some way of using another IP address since his is blocked

Squad's IP is blocked?  Are you serious?  I just thought he stopped posting because he (understandably) didn't want the hassle of his personal info being out there?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
Squad's IP is blocked?  Are you serious?  I just thought he stopped posting because he (understandably) didn't want the hassle of his personal info being out there?
no his ip is blocked and he tried to create other accounts like sarkasm sarcazm squaddaddy .. well all this according to blockhead...    i guess block could be lying but some reason i doubt it?

anyways i dont think you are him, because you sometimes give me shit and try to own me and SF  stopped that long before his info got posted.. so i see no reason why if you were him that you would be doing that...

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 12, 2008, 02:10:28 PM
his IP is NOT blocked . that is a bullshit lie spread by the wife beating adulterer blockhead.
also, it is perfectly possible to use proxies if it were (which it isn't), which is exactly what squadfatter does when using his pandamoneum account.


I know this as a FACT, not opinion. trailerman is panda and always has been.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on June 12, 2008, 02:11:14 PM
his IP is NOT blocked . that is a bullshit lie spread by the wife beating adulterer blockhead.
also, it is perfectly possible to use proxies if it were (which it isn't), which is exactly what squadfatter does when using his pandamoneum account.


I know this as a FACT, not opinion. trailerman is panda and always has been.

Boy, you have quite the imagination.

Anyway, where's this "proof" you keep talking about? ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 12, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
I read somewhere that Grymko said he took 1,500mg of steroids a day and mentioned it here.


Since this is mostly baseless, i raise ya another zero. 15,000 mg/daily sounds about right.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 02:37:47 PM
Pathetic. everyone can see it's you fat Dave. you ran away becuase king Alex and super Derek owned and exposed your hideously obese ass and now your panda account is blown.

HAHAHAAHAHHA Nowhere to run too

HI SQUAD!!!


no his ip is blocked and he tried to create other accounts like sarkasm sarcazm squaddaddy .. well all this according to blockhead...    i guess block could be lying but some reason i doubt it?

anyways i dont think you are him, because you sometimes give me shit and try to own me and SF  stopped that long before his info got posted.. so i see no reason why if you were him that you would be doing that...



Squads IP is NOT blocked, he is setting up new accounts but Ron needs to approve them first.

Squad got locked out of his SF account...... Sort of like how Derek got locked out of doing a regular job.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 02:39:05 PM
Since this is mostly baseless, i raise ya another zero. 15,000 mg/daily sounds about right.
well the only reason i doubt this claim is simply because of the quantity of gear you would be putting in your body would be unsustainable over any period of time. maybe the first day you could get it all in. but the next day? lol, only so much area for injection
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: onlyme on June 12, 2008, 04:23:18 PM
Pete was a very close friend of mine like brothers.  He is my girls godfather.  We have done a lot of things together but I did not know him back in the early 80's or 70's.  But he has told me numerous times some of the shit he took and how much but it was just going in one ear and out the other.  Stuntmovie might have a better memory than I do on this.  The only thing that really sticks out was how he did morphine prior to working out sometimes so he could go past the pain barrier.  He also got some of his drugs from the government or something like that.  He is very well known for how much he used to do.  for the guys who know him you know his stories.  For the people who don't know him then you are missing a lot.  As for Arnold it was pretty known that his drug of choice was Primobolan.  Our gym pharmacist (at Worlds) who the old timers on here will know, used to have his Rolls Royce trunk filled with anything you want.  $25 would buy you a bottle of 100 nice blue Dianabol from CIBA if I remember.  My training partner did a lot of that.  I didn't do anything till actually I left that gym.  No one really tried to get me on anything.  I was as strong as any of them and looked pretty good for 247 lbs. 
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 12, 2008, 04:56:42 PM
 what is believable taking into account Arnold's Size and competitive bodyweight with great genetics and what we have all heard whispers about is that Arnold would have taken 10 dbol twice daily and 200mgs of primobolan twice weekly so 1100mgs total for the week 100mg orally daily and 400mgs injectable, the over consumption of orals for years would have more than likely accelerated his late life heart condition, 1100mgs is still a big dose anyone who thinks you need more than that to compete at his weight of around 230lbs is greatly mistaken, i dont think anyone in their right mind mind would take a bottle of dbol daily and not expect severe health issues.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Moosejay on June 12, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
Pete was a very close friend of mine like brothers.  He is my girls godfather.  We have done a lot of things together but I did not know him back in the early 80's or 70's.  But he has told me numerous times some of the shit he took and how much but it was just going in one ear and out the other.  Stuntmovie might have a better memory than I do on this.  The only thing that really sticks out was how he did morphine prior to working out sometimes so he could go past the pain barrier.  He also got some of his drugs from the government or something like that.  He is very well known for how much he used to do.  for the guys who know him you know his stories.  For the people who don't know him then you are missing a lot.  As for Arnold it was pretty known that his drug of choice was Primobolan.  Our gym pharmacist (at Worlds) who the old timers on here will know, used to have his Rolls Royce trunk filled with anything you want.  $25 would buy you a bottle of 100 nice blue Dianabol from CIBA if I remember.  My training partner did a lot of that.  I didn't do anything till actually I left that gym.  No one really tried to get me on anything.  I was as strong as any of them and looked pretty good for 247 lbs. 

Yes, Grymko had a steroid column in Muscle Builder back then....
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 12, 2008, 07:12:25 PM
what is believable taking into account Arnold's Size and competitive bodyweight with great genetics and what we have all heard whispers about is that Arnold would have taken 10 dbol twice daily and 200mgs of primobolan twice weekly so 1100mgs total for the week 100mg orally daily and 400mgs injectable, the over consumption of orals for years would have more than likely accelerated his late life heart condition, 1100mgs is still a big dose anyone who thinks you need more than that to compete at his weight of around 230lbs is greatly mistaken, i dont think anyone in their right mind mind would take a bottle of dbol daily and not expect severe health issues.
Do you compete? If so lets see a pic. You don' know anything, those kind of doses wouldn't even win a local show let alone Mr. Olympia titles spread over 11 years. Don't be gullable about what people take. No one knows the truth about Arnold. People do anything and everything under the sun to make it to the top of their field. I know 2 guys that have 22-23 inch arms, big and ugly, certainly not bodybuilding material. What they have in common is they take over 5000mg a week. It just so happens that the only 2 guys in town with big proportions are juiced to the max and everyone else has 16 inch arms and can put up eight reps with 225 and they swear by their mother that all it takes to grow is 500mg a week. Surely you fit this discription. Do you know what goes on at bodybuilding shows backstage? The amounts being spoken of are in 2000- 5000 range, and even then they are still lying. If you said anything less then a thousand you would be laugh at and this is amateur, OH BUT I FORGOT MR OLYMPIA ONLY TAKES 1100 ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 07:53:03 PM
Do you compete? If so lets see a pic. You don' know anything, those kind of doses wouldn't even win a local show let alone Mr. Olympia titles spread over 11 years. Don't be gullable about what people take. No one knows the truth about Arnold. People do anything and everything under the sun to make it to the top of their field. I know 2 guys that have 22-23 inch arms, big and ugly, certainly not bodybuilding material. What they have in common is they take over 5000mg a week. It just so happens that the only 2 guys in town with big proportions are juiced to the max and everyone else has 16 inch arms and can put up eight reps with 225 and they swear by their mother that all it takes to grow is 500mg a week. Surely you fit this discription. Do you know what goes on at bodybuilding shows backstage? The amounts being spoken of are in 2000- 5000 range, and even then they are still lying. If you said anything less then a thousand you would be laugh at and this is amateur, OH BUT I FORGOT MR OLYMPIA ONLY TAKES 1100 ::)

Damn, that was funny. I also find it interesting that Primo was Arnnies fav drug. 300 to 400 mg of primo is not going to do much so how high did he go to get the type of results that made it his favortie drug  ???
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 08:55:07 PM
Do you compete? If so lets see a pic. You don' know anything, those kind of doses wouldn't even win a local show let alone Mr. Olympia titles spread over 11 years. Don't be gullable about what people take. No one knows the truth about Arnold. People do anything and everything under the sun to make it to the top of their field. I know 2 guys that have 22-23 inch arms, big and ugly, certainly not bodybuilding material. What they have in common is they take over 5000mg a week. It just so happens that the only 2 guys in town with big proportions are juiced to the max and everyone else has 16 inch arms and can put up eight reps with 225 and they swear by their mother that all it takes to grow is 500mg a week. Surely you fit this discription. Do you know what goes on at bodybuilding shows backstage? The amounts being spoken of are in 2000- 5000 range, and even then they are still lying. If you said anything less then a thousand you would be laugh at and this is amateur, OH BUT I FORGOT MR OLYMPIA ONLY TAKES 1100 ::)

You are a fucking retarded idiot, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE WON THE CAL ON 300-400 MG/WEEK.

STFU you numbnuts!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
GOTTA GO WITH ONETIMEHARD.

not beecause i have a whole lot of knowledge about what guys take; cuz i dont, but i do know the bodybuilder psyche and i can guanaatee aint nobody taking 300-400 mg per week and FUCK NO MR "I WANNA BE THE BEST BB'ER IN THE WORLD ! " arnold schwarzenegger was not taking no 50mg dbol daily

you gotta be kidding me if you believe that shit

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 09:25:23 PM
You are a fucking retarded idiot, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE WON THE CAL ON 300-400 MG/WEEK.

STFU you numbnuts!

300 to 400 mg of what?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 12, 2008, 09:57:20 PM
Do you compete? If so lets see a pic. You don' know anything, those kind of doses wouldn't even win a local show let alone Mr. Olympia titles spread over 11 years. Don't be gullable about what people take. No one knows the truth about Arnold. People do anything and everything under the sun to make it to the top of their field. I know 2 guys that have 22-23 inch arms, big and ugly, certainly not bodybuilding material. What they have in common is they take over 5000mg a week. It just so happens that the only 2 guys in town with big proportions are juiced to the max and everyone else has 16 inch arms and can put up eight reps with 225 and they swear by their mother that all it takes to grow is 500mg a week. Surely you fit this discription. Do you know what goes on at bodybuilding shows backstage? The amounts being spoken of are in 2000- 5000 range, and even then they are still lying. If you said anything less then a thousand you would be laugh at and this is amateur, OH BUT I FORGOT MR OLYMPIA ONLY TAKES 1100 ::)

 ::)

this post says a lot about your genetics.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: England_1 on June 12, 2008, 09:59:26 PM
70s/80s BBers taking <1g/week sounds like a bunch of baloney too me.

There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't take more, given that you get more results.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 12, 2008, 10:08:20 PM
Damn, that was funny. I also find it interesting that Primo was Arnnies fav drug. 300 to 400 mg of primo is not going to do much so how high did he go to get the type of results that made it his favortie drug  ???

maybe with your genetics  ;D

1100mgs to weigh 230lb in contest shape when your talking about a guy with great genetics, why do people have to believe if someone looks a lot better than them that they simply must just have taken a shitload more drugs. Because its easier to believe that, then maybe their own shortcomings in the genetics department.

The most popular drug in the early 70s in europe was primobolan depot and dianobol, maybe that was why he favoured them, hes austrian Schering make Primo, in  Germany, its next door, hope this helps a bit.  :)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
maybe with your genetics  ;D

1100mgs to weigh 230lb in contest shape when your talking about a guy with great genetics, why do people have to believe if someone looks a lot better than them that they simply must just have taken a shitload more drugs. Because its easier to believe that, then maybe their own shortcomings in the genetics department.

The most popular drug in the early 70s in europe was primobolan depot and dianobol, maybe that was why he favoured them, hes austrian Schering make Primo, in  Germany, its next door, hope this helps a bit.  :)
nasser el sonbat admitted he took 10 grams aas per week and 15 iu's gh per day along with slin...   you think nasser had horrible genetics too ?

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: LATS on June 12, 2008, 10:14:02 PM
 disgusted and i have talked about this before.. but, NO ONE TELLS THE TRUTH IN REGARDS TO THEIR CYCLES.. AND YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE TAKE IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME.. so never say "i know a guy that only takes #@#$ amount of stuff a week".. because that is what he told ya.. no one in this game is honest about cycles and they always under shoot what they actually take.. why?.. because they dont want anyone to think that they dont work hard and give gear the credit.. so please dont believe what someone tells you they take.. i have heard numerous cycles that "supposably" top amatuers took to win the usa or nationals.. and it is always the "500 mgs a week" b.s... but, 500 mgs  of what.. ? people will say heath only took 500 mgs of test and some eq when he won the nationals.. how do you know?.. is that what he told ya.. ? again, if you are not with them 24/7 you dont know.. usually double it.. as for arold era cycles.. please.. they abused too.. the whole 300 deca and some dbol is silly..  ric drasin, arnold old workout partner, has said that arnold used to scare the guys with the amounts he took..he said dbol by the handful and a couple of times day was not uncommon.. 300 of primo will not do a thing.. fitness chicks take that..
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 12, 2008, 10:17:02 PM
70s/80s BBers taking <1g/week sounds like a bunch of baloney too me.

There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't take more, given that you get more results.

Arnold weighed 230lbs Ronnie Coleman weighed 289 and was at least 4 inches shorter, 60lbs is a lot of muscle on a shorter guy, i  would say Ron used as much as 4000mgs per week and a shitload of gh, your talking 1971 to 2001, guys this is a debate lets just remember its a forum, which m,means there will be difference of opinion.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 12, 2008, 10:21:53 PM
 if this were any other group of people in any other sport i would not say that i believed they were taking mega doses.

but lets be serious people

its not unfounded when people say bodybuilding is filled with people with mental poblems and insecurities and fucked up head and images of their bodies..

that is everyone who competes (well except for the small minority of TURE natural bodybuilders..those guys are kick ass individuals who are legit and deserve a ton of respect)

these guys will take whatever they can whenever they can in order to get out of their current bodies !!!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 10:24:43 PM
disgusted and i have talked about this before.. but, NO ONE TELLS THE TRUTH IN REGARDS TO THEIR CYCLES.. AND YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE TAKE IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME.. so never say "i know a guy that only takes #@#$ amount of stuff a week".. because that is what he told ya.. no one in this game is honest about cycles and they always under shoot what they actually take.. why?.. because they dont want anyone to think that they dont work hard and give gear the credit.. so please dont believe what someone tells you they take.. i have heard numerous cycles that "supposably" top amatuers took to win the usa or nationals.. and it is always the "500 mgs a week" b.s... but, 500 mgs  of what.. ? people will say heath only took 500 mgs of test and some eq when he won the nationals.. how do you know?.. is that what he told ya.. ? again, if you are not with them 24/7 you dont know.. usually double it.. as for arold era cycles.. please.. they abused too.. the whole 300 deca and some dbol is silly..  ric drasin, arnold old workout partner, has said that arnold used to scare the guys with the amounts he took..he said dbol by the handful and a couple of times day was not uncommon.. 300 of primo will not do a thing.. fitness chicks take that..

Bingo!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 10:27:13 PM
i  would say Ron used as much as 4000mgs per week

ahem...... ::)   more like 10,000 plus
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
ahem...... ::)   more like 10,000 plus

Probably closer to 15 grams/week.

But fake juice, so it would equal about half that of the 70's and early 80's juice.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 10:40:19 PM
300 to 400 mg of what?

DBOL, Deca, Sustenon Winnie and anadrol 50.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
DBOL, Deca, Sustenon Winnie and anadrol 50.

Lets see, sustenon is 250 mg and the rest is way too high to be on only 300 to 400. Could you please explain maybe give us an example cycle?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 10:55:23 PM
Probably closer to 15 grams/week.

But fake juice, so it would equal about half that of the 70's and early 80's juice.

So yor saying that all the 250mg per ML fake stuff only has about 25mg per ML?  Not a chance! That would mean that anyone doing only 1000mg cycle would actually be doing around 100mg per week.  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 12, 2008, 11:13:08 PM
So yor saying that all the 250mg per ML fake stuff only has about 25mg per ML?  Not a chance! That would mean that anyone doing only 1000mg cycle would actually be doing around 100mg per week.  ::)

The majority of ALL steroids sold on the black market after 1985 were fake/counterfiet-and it was all seriously underdosed. By at least 50%, sometimes more, sometimes there were no drugs in the juice at all.


As far as cycles for the early 80's, I know guys who got huge off a stack of 1cc sustenon 250, 1cc/100mg deca and 4-6 orals daily-mostly d-bol, but anavar and Anadrol 50 were both popular then. Real sustenon 250 is some very powerful juice.

I can tell you I had a bottle of anadrol 50 back in 82, straight from the US pharmacy, I was taking 2 tabs a day-100mg total. I lasted 4 days on that shit, had headaches, ringing in my ears, all kinds of weird shit was happening. So I used 8 tabs and sold the rest of the 100 tab bottle, 92 tabs left. That shit was toxic as hell. And I was only using 2 fucking tabs a day. I find it hard to believe someone taking 100 tabs of REAL dbol would not seriously fuck up your system.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 12, 2008, 11:37:46 PM
The majority of ALL steroids sold on the black market after 1985 were fake/counterfiet-and it was all seriously underdosed. By at least 50%, sometimes more, sometimes there were no drugs in the juice at all.


As far as cycles for the early 80's, I know guys who got huge off a stack of 1cc sustenon 250, 1cc/100mg deca and 4-6 orals daily-mostly d-bol, but anavar and Anadrol 50 were both popular then. Real sustenon 250 is some very powerful juice.

I can tell you I had a bottle of anadrol 50 back in 82, straight from the US pharmacy, I was taking 2 tabs a day-100mg total. I lasted 4 days on that shit, had headaches, ringing in my ears, all kinds of weird shit was happening. So I used 8 tabs and sold the rest of the 100 tab bottle, 92 tabs left. That shit was toxic as hell. And I was only using 2 fucking tabs a day. I find it hard to believe someone taking 100 tabs of REAL dbol would not seriously fuck up your system.


I agree about the drugs back in 85 being fake, but a lot of them were 100% fake meaning nothing in them at all. I also remember the old Syntex Anadrol in the old silver tin bottle for $75.00  ;D They are now bout $1100. I also never used them as they were VERY potent. I knew guys who would use 1 daily and gain up to 30 pounds.

Now, recently and up to a few months ago when all these busts happened there were some very good products out there and most were correctly miged, of course some were garbage and had some bacteria in them, but the top guys know what was good. I have trained a TON of guys thru out the years and most lie even to me about what they take. For example, a kid that I did not train but knew was always known to be natural. He swore to everyone including his girlfriend that he never took anything. I knew better and one day he slipped and said he was taking MIT. That shit was as potent as ANY!!! oral I have ever taken. In fact, I personally could not even take 5 mgs of it. I lasted 5 days and had to quit but in that amount of time my strength went up dramatically. Anyway, not to get off track, this kid tried back tracking about what he said and I knew then that he was taking all kinds of stuff but most of it was probabley the "prosteroid" orals that used to be out there. Point is that everyone likes to lie cause if they told the truth then people mite not think that they were gentically gifted as they claim or are thought to be, ie nothing special.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 13, 2008, 01:24:17 AM
When this discussion will end it'll come back to what I said in the beginning : Arnold = 200-400 mg d bol a day and besides that he took probably anything worth taking as much as his body would stand.

(http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/186/3938/1018450/1/arnold-schwarzenneger-gras.jpg)

(http://www.isteroids.com/images/arnold-schwarzenegge.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: gh15 on June 13, 2008, 01:54:23 AM
digusted and friends,,do not listen to joeny vegas ,,th efella is jobless and thats why on getbig,,in reality he has no clue to what it took or taked to be a professional or top amatuer,,the drugs then were same doss as the drugs now when it comes to human grade,,,only the undergrounds were fakes and that is one thing he was right about,,in general he has no clue to cycles not anything else he is talking about,,

most important thing to understad is that if you swollow now 15-20 tablers anabol snake and arrow british disp....then back in the 70 you swaoollowe those same 20 only good ole russians

thats that,,make sure you know what you read and make sure that even when gh15 is not here friends you keep the truth accurate and not   twisted
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 13, 2008, 02:02:25 AM
digusted and friends,,do not listen to joeny vegas ,,th efella is jobless and thats why on getbig,,in reality he has no clue to what it took or taked to be a professional or top amatuer,,the drugs then were same doss as the drugs now when it comes to human grade,,,only the undergrounds were fakes and that is one thing he was right about,,in general he has no clue to cycles not anything else he is talking about,,

most important thing to understad is that if you swollow now 15-20 tablers anabol snake and arrow british disp....then back in the 70 you swaoollowe those same 20 only good ole russians

thats that,,make sure you know what you read and make sure that even when gh15 is not here friends you keep the truth accurate and not   twisted


100% truth.

alles fit soweit?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2008, 08:22:23 AM
Probably closer to 15 grams/week.

But fake juice, so it would equal about half that of the 70's and early 80's juice.

You're saying Mr O himself had no access to real high quality juice?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 08:37:57 AM
digusted and friends,,do not listen to joeny vegas ,,th efella is jobless and thats why on getbig,,in reality he has no clue to what it took or taked to be a professional or top amatuer,,the drugs then were same doss as the drugs now when it comes to human grade,,,only the undergrounds were fakes and that is one thing he was right about,,in general he has no clue to cycles not anything else he is talking about,,

most important thing to understad is that if you swollow now 15-20 tablers anabol snake and arrow british disp....then back in the 70 you swaoollowe those same 20 only good ole russians

thats that,,make sure you know what you read and make sure that even when gh15 is not here friends you keep the truth accurate and not   twisted


Haha...... now we have gh-thedork15 adding in his worthless 2 cents.  ;D

Thank you Captian Obvious!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 13, 2008, 08:41:13 AM
70s/80s BBers taking <1g/week sounds like a bunch of baloney too me.

There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't take more, given that you get more results.

Another confused post. How exactly do you know that "you will get more results".
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
You're saying Mr O himself had no access to real high quality juice?

I have a friend who was supplying just about every pro you could think of in the early-mid 90's, and everything he sold was 1) counterfeit from Mexico, or 2) was from a legit manufacturer, but manufacutred in Mexico and it was underdosed. ALL of it.

So my answer is Mr. O's did not have acess to high quality juice after 1985.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 13, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
When this discussion will end it'll come back to what I said in the beginning : Arnold = 200-400 mg d bol a day and besides that he took probably anything worth taking as much as his body would stand.


Epic attempt to justify your own stupidity in megadosing to gain 6 lb., using the same insane more is better assumption many of the amateurs here are.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2008, 08:46:26 AM

I agree about the drugs back in 85 being fake, but a lot of them were 100% fake meaning nothing in them at all. I also remember the old Syntex Anadrol in the old silver tin bottle for $75.00  ;D They are now bout $1100. I also never used them as they were VERY potent. I knew guys who would use 1 daily and gain up to 30 pounds.

Now, recently and up to a few months ago when all these busts happened there were some very good products out there and most were correctly miged, of course some were garbage and had some bacteria in them, but the top guys know what was good. I have trained a TON of guys thru out the years and most lie even to me about what they take. For example, a kid that I did not train but knew was always known to be natural. He swore to everyone including his girlfriend that he never took anything. I knew better and one day he slipped and said he was taking MIT. That shit was as potent as ANY!!! oral I have ever taken. In fact, I personally could not even take 5 mgs of it. I lasted 5 days and had to quit but in that amount of time my strength went up dramatically. Anyway, not to get off track, this kid tried back tracking about what he said and I knew then that he was taking all kinds of stuff but most of it was probabley the "prosteroid" orals that used to be out there. Point is that everyone likes to lie cause if they told the truth then people mite not think that they were gentically gifted as they claim or are thought to be, ie nothing special.
ANADROL 50 was lethal.1 tab was plenty at the time ,i personally knew someone who took 3 to 4 per day and nose bleeds,but was an animal.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 08:51:29 AM
ANADROL 50 was lethal.1 tab was plenty at the time ,i personally knew someone who took 3 to 4 per day and nose bleeds,but was an animal.

Dr. Bob Kerr, in his steroid book, stated that 2 tabs a day was a legitimate dosage for Anadrol 50, and so I went with that-biggest fucking mistake ever.

I was fucked up, as stated in the earlier post. I just sold the rest-a 4 day cycle was enough for me. Never touched that shit ever again. Highy toxic.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The Master on June 13, 2008, 08:52:22 AM
Where did Nasser claim 10g+/week? :o
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 13, 2008, 08:53:28 AM
ANADROL 50 was lethal.1 tab was plenty at the time ,i personally knew someone who took 3 to 4 per day and nose bleeds,but was an animal.

Oh yeah! Well I know a guy who took 4 a day.  ;D Seriously though this guy was on 4 a day and the idiot used to inject adrenaline before lifting.  :P Fars I know this guy is still around and competing although I don't know how.  Yep, the old Syntex stuff was potent and as plentyful as it was back in the day I always passed on it.  ??? It just scared me too much.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2008, 08:54:12 AM
I have a friend who was supplying just about every pro you could think of in the early-mid 90's, and everything he sold was 1) counterfeit from Mexico, or 2) was from a legit manufacturer, but manufacutred in Mexico and it was underdosed. ALL of it.

So my answer is Mr. O's did not have acess to high quality juice after 1985.

There's tons of real juice flowing from Europe to the US... you don't think Mr O is getting his hands on any of that? When any kid from GB could get it with minimal work. Come on now.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2008, 08:57:53 AM
Dr. Bob Kerr, in his steroid book, stated that 2 tabs a day was a legitimate dosage for Anadrol 50, and so I went with that-biggest fucking mistake ever.

I was fucked up, as stated in the earlier post. I just sold the rest-a 4 day cycle was enough for me. Never touched that shit ever again. Highy toxic.

They gave HIV+ patients 150mg/day for 6 months with little to no side effects.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 13, 2008, 08:58:03 AM
Oh yeah! Well I know a guy who took 4 a day.  ;D Seriously though this guy was on 4 a day and the idiot used to inject adrenaline before lifting.  :P Fars I know this guy is still around and competing although I don;t know how.  Yep, the old Syntex stuff was potent and as plentyful as it was back in the day I always passed on it.  ??? It just scared me too much.
androxan was another late 80's 40 mg's was potent for strenght,gave u tremors and nervous feeling.those old school original potency anavar,winstrol tabs,d bol,a bombs,were very good ,fast acting and easy orals were simple to use and worked but tradeoff of liver enzymes and system out of whack was common.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: suckmymuscle on June 13, 2008, 09:09:13 AM
Mostly water weight. Very little muscle gains.

  This is obviously incorrect since your strengh increases dramatically on d-bol. You can't gain strengh without increasing lean muscle mass. Do you really think that if you fill your muscles with water your bench will increase by 50 lbs?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The Master on June 13, 2008, 09:20:37 AM
  This is obviously incorrect since your strengh increases dramatically on d-bol. You can't gain strengh without increasing lean muscle mass. Do you really think that if you fill your muscles with water your bench will increase by 50 lbs?


Gayer than Sucky returning to Getbig after being missing for months.  Gayer than having missed SuckySucky's Triple 9 society standard posts about piss and shit.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
There's tons of real juice flowing from Europe to the US... you don't think Mr O is getting his hands on any of that? When any kid from GB could get it with minimal work. Come on now.

This was in the early/mid 90's. Internet was not really at top speed then, so that is not a good comparison.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 11:27:13 AM
They gave HIV+ patients 150mg/day for 6 months with little to no side effects.



I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: GigantorX on June 13, 2008, 12:09:22 PM
digusted and friends,,do not listen to joeny vegas ,,th efella is jobless and thats why on getbig,,in reality he has no clue to what it took or taked to be a professional or top amatuer,,the drugs then were same doss as the drugs now when it comes to human grade,,,only the undergrounds were fakes and that is one thing he was right about,,in general he has no clue to cycles not anything else he is talking about,,

most important thing to understad is that if you swollow now 15-20 tablers anabol snake and arrow british disp....then back in the 70 you swaoollowe those same 20 only good ole russians

thats that,,make sure you know what you read and make sure that even when gh15 is not here friends you keep the truth accurate and not   twisted


Again with this shit..... ::) ::)

You have completely changed your prose and writing style...'fella'? You even now have the ability to write semi-english, how strange! Say, it's almost like you're trying to sound like you can't write. But hey, you still throw in multiple commas all in a row to "keep it real".

You're a worthless gimmick.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
Again with this shit..... ::) ::)

You have completely changed your prose and writing style...'fella'? You even now have the ability to write semi-english, how strange! Say, it's almost like you're trying to sound like you can't write. But hey, you still throw in multiple commas all in a row to "keep it real".

You're a worthless gimmick.

No shit, gh15 is full on bullshit....here take a look at his post for 3 years ago-seems his English was much better 3 years ago! It was a miracle! As time goes on he seems to get more"Broken English"...lol!

i almost never do the board responding thing on boards that dont include classifieds on them but i must say something here. there is a world of difference between ray and craig titus. craig titus to begin with is a murderer no matter if he or his ugly wife did it... he is still a criminal and now a murderer. sean ray can talk about it as much as he wants since craig titus is no more a bodybuilder (not that he ever was) he is a murderer!

in addition if you notice clearly sean ray dont ever mention  the doses of hormones and what it really takes to get up on stage in nationals or in pro shows. he just keep to himself when it comes to hormones which is very smart. priest, prince, craig titus and company always say how little they used and still use but any sane bodybuilder and hopefully any sane humen being know they lie and lie and lie and then lie some more.

dont EVER compaire sean ray and craig titus they do not belong in the same group. sean ray is one of the more serious bodybuilder that lived and breath the life style and still does. craig titus was and is a drug freak and im not talking only hormones im talkin meth and im talkin cocaine and im talking x and many many more. there is a world of diff between a pro like ray and many of us that use mega doses of hormones to maintain size or improve our physiqe and a junkie that consider himself a bodybuilder. by the way craig titus was also a dealer! but i wont go there.

now to my thoughts about the matter:
i am almost 100% craig titus will get executed within the next 10 years. this crime is so severe that i can not see him getting life in prison. his ugly wife will probably get somewhere between 10 and 20 years. titus is going to be 160 pound guy in prison... the gang will teach him a lesson. they are waiting for him in there. this will be your proof that drugs play a major role in bodybuilding when it comes to the pros/top amatuers. this will show many of you that many pros lie right and left about their hormone use. you will see that in the next year or 2 he will get from his current 215-220 pounds to a thin 160 pounds. he's losing weight by the min.

no more titus at 250...get ready for titus as dead man walking at 160 pounds. titus aint no tookie williams, he aint no black bro that can have muscle screaming out of him with out touching gear. titus will be a little skinny play toy. who knows he might try to kill himself way before the verdict comes in... but he is basically dead man walking any way you look at it.

lesson to be learned: DON'T DO NARCOTICS! ! !

some of you may say oh he will be still 200 pounds ....well the reasons why he will not are:

1) he is spoild brat. he wont be able to be in prison for life he will be stressed every min of the rest of his life.

2) he will probably get death...unless his daddy or mommy got lots and lots of money which i doubt it...so a walking dead man is even more stressed.

3) he is 5'8 and already got down from 250+ to 215-220 in a very short time. remember his height will aim for the weight he had naturally. titus was a skinny teenager.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 13, 2008, 01:29:33 PM
There's tons of real juice flowing from Europe to the US... you don't think Mr O is getting his hands on any of that?

No kidding; some of the guillible here sound like ideal clients for the fake shit.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
This was in the early/mid 90's. Internet was not really at top speed then, so that is not a good comparison.



Yeah but you responded about Ronnie being on fake underdosed juice. There has always been gear coming in from Europe, stories abound from Arnold's day for example. Mexico wasn't all there was ever. Where do you think Parabolan was coming from for example?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
I find that hard to believe.

Quote
German Steroid Study Success
by Michael Mooney (from Issue No. 3, May 1996)

A new study shows that one of the most powerful oral anabolic steroids improves lean muscle mass with no significant side-effects in HIV-positive men and women. (1) Oxymetholone, formerly sold in the US as Anadrol-50, was given for thirty weeks at a 150 mg/daily dose. Weight gain averaged 14.5% of bodyweight, which is significant because there was no exercise program instituted, but it is known that anabolic steroids exert their greatest effect when weightlifting is employed. Notably, even the subset of patients burdened with AIDS-related infections continued to gain weight on oxymetholone.

While oxymetholone is considered to be a harsh steroid with a high potential for side-effects, the subjects were reported to have no significant problems with liver function, water retention, virilization, and several side-effects thought to be associated with its use, at a dose that is three times what many bodybuilders would use, for considerably longer than they would generally use it.

The study didn't look at CD8+ T cell counts, which appear to be more correlative with survival than CD4+ T cells,(2) which were not correlative with weight gain in this study.

1. Oxymetholone promotes weight gain in patients with advanced human immunodeficienty virus (HIV-1) infection. Hengge, et al. Brit J Nutri (1996) 75:129-138]

2. CD8+ lymphocyte counts and the risk of death in advanced HIV infection. Schlumpberger JM, et al. J Family Practice (1994) 38(1):33-38.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 01:37:27 PM

hmmmmm..................good stuff. 150mg's of A-50 daily would kill me
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 13, 2008, 02:10:49 PM
strange how compounds effect people different ways. winny shrinks my balls faster than rosie o'donnel, anything above 30mg dbol gives me constant headaches :( although i good results  8)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The ChemistV2 on June 13, 2008, 03:21:50 PM
strange how compounds effect people different ways. winny shrinks my balls faster than rosie o'donnel, anything above 30mg dbol gives me constant headaches :( although i good results  8)
Believe me, Arnold was never dumb enough to take 200 to 400 mg of d-bol a day. He didn't need to. Anyone who knew him well would tell you he had an amazing response to drugs, plus he never stayed on them longer than 4 to 5 months out of the year the last 5 years or so he competed. People here are just trying to justify their epic failure by diminishing Arnold's accomplishments.  I had a friend in the mid 80's that did a cycle of only 20 mg of oral winstrol a day and gained 15 pounds of shredded muscle in 3 months. Looked a thousand times better than most of these clowns on the internet taking 2 grams a week of test.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 13, 2008, 03:25:21 PM
Believe me, Arnold was never dumb enough to take 200 to 400 mg of d-bol a day. He didn't need to. Anyone who knew him well would tell you he had an amazing response to drugs, plus he never stayed on them longer than 4 to 5 months out of the year the last 5 years or so he competed. People here are just trying to justify their epic failure by diminishing Arnold's accomplishments.  I had a friend in the mid 80's that did a cycle of only 20 mg of oral winstrol a day and gained 15 pounds of shredded muscle in 3 months. Looked a thousand times better than most of these clowns on the internet taking 2 grams a week of test.
you monitored these guys 24/7 365 60 seconds for every minute 60 minutes for every hour never let them out of your sight ????  ;)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: The ChemistV2 on June 13, 2008, 03:43:24 PM
you monitored these guys 24/7 365 60 seconds for every minute 60 minutes for every hour never let them out of your sight ????  ;)
All I can say is I'm glad I didn't grow up in this era like you where I'd be on the internet doing my first cycle, thinking I had to do thousands of milligrams a week to look halfway decent. I can understand if you're goal is to be a professional bodybuilder,but I see all these guys on the net who look like nothing, claiming that they're doing thousands of milligrams a week. Either they have fake juice, they don't know how to train properly, or they have shitty genetics..or all of the above. My point is why risk your health if you're never going to compete? If more people knew you can make gains of safe, reasonable cycles, instead of relying on these internet gurus, they'd be a lot better off. Once your health is shot, Life sucks! And if you think the human body was meant to withstand 3 to 5 grams a week of test, 8 to 15IU's a day of Growth Hormone, Insulin, IGf-1, you're mistaken. Taking 400 mg a day of dianobol is absolutely ridiculous and if you think Arnold would have been that stupid, you know nothing about him.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: GigantorX on June 13, 2008, 05:07:17 PM
hmmmmm..................good stuff. 150mg's of A-50 daily would kill me

But you would be fucking huge bro'!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
Believe me, Arnold was never dumb enough to take 200 to 400 mg of d-bol a day. He didn't need to. Anyone who knew him well would tell you he had an amazing response to drugs, plus he never stayed on them longer than 4 to 5 months out of the year the last 5 years or so he competed. People here are just trying to justify their epic failure by diminishing Arnold's accomplishments.  I had a friend in the mid 80's that did a cycle of only 20 mg of oral winstrol a day and gained 15 pounds of shredded muscle in 3 months. Looked a thousand times better than most of these clowns on the internet taking 2 grams a week of test.

Agreed, my cycles were always small, usually 250-350 mg's a week, of real juice though. I trained 6 years BEFORE my first cycle, so I had the solid base. My first cycle was ONE bottle of dbol. Laddered up from  tab a day week one, two week two, three week three and four week four, then back down the same way. Gained 20lbs off that one bottle of dbol.

Now, look at an idiot like Billy Gunns, who had NO base training at all and he startes with 3 g's a week of test- No gains at all.

End of story.

But you would be fucking huge bro'!

LOL! If I could have hung in there.

Like I said, I was on 4 days and went crazy, I could never survive Anadrol 50. It just didn't run right in my system.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: jason armstrong on June 13, 2008, 05:39:53 PM
Some of the more popular stuff back then was
Primobolan tabs and amps
injectable Dianabol 25 mg/ml and 5 mg tabs
Parabolan 76 mg per ml
Finaject 30 mg per ml
sustanon
cypionate
enanthate
winstrol tabs and winstrol V
equipoise
propionate
suspension
anavar
nilevar
cytomel
triacana
halotestin
Anadrol 50
probably some other stuff I am forgetting.

Funny how the Generation dumb takes 6-800 mgs of tren a week 100 mgs of dbol a day 300 mgs of anadrol3-4 grams of test 1 gram deca or EQ I gram primo etc etc


shit is bunk today there still is some quality stuff out there


Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 13, 2008, 05:40:20 PM
Agreed, my cycles were always small, usually 250-350 mg's a week, of real juice though. I trained 6 years BEFORE my first cycle, so I had the solid base. My first cycle was ONE bottle of dbol. Laddered up from  tab a day week one, two week two, three week three and four week four, then back down the same way. Gained 20lbs off that one bottle of dbol.

Now, look at an idiot like Billy Gunns, who had NO base training at all and he startes with 3 g's a week of test- No gains at all.

End of story.

LOL! If I could have hung in there.

Like I said, I was on 4 days and went crazy, I could never survive Anadrol 50. It just didn't run right in my system.
You are exactly the type of person that would be with a woman that has slept with 300 men and, meat her, date her, love her , a week later fall in love with her and aske her to be with you, she will accept , a year later she goes out and gets tag teamed every week and will come home making excuses, car broke down , mother got sick, no matter what you will always believe her. Your own best friend will tellyou she a whore, but you will burn your friend alive before you believe him and when you finally grow a brain and wake up you will commit suicide. WHY..... because you are to dam gullable, you believe everything, there is no remedy for this.

People take juice in gallons.......accept it

6 000 000 000+ people on this planet the ones at the top in the muscle biz are flooding of testosterone, common sense, use your brain
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 13, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
You are exactly the type of person that would be with a woman that has slept with 300 men and, meat her, date her, love her , a week later fall in love with her and aske her to be with you, she will accept , a year later she goes out and gets tag teamed every week and will come home making excuses, car broke down , mother got sick, no matter what you will always believe her. Your own best friend will tellyou she a whore, but you will burn your friend alive before you believe him and when you finally grow a brain and wake up you will commit suicide. WHY..... because you are to dam gullable, you believe everything, there is no remedy for this.

People take juice in gallons.......accept it

6 000 000 000+ people on this planet the ones at the top in the muscle biz are flooding of testosterone, common sense, use your brain


Hahahah...OK Juiceman.

BUT, if you ever want your 15 inch "Billy Gunns" arms to break the 16 inch barrier-PM me, I can help you.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 13, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
 its just easier for all these guys to say they just dont take enough gas, other than to think they dont train hard enough, or eat enough, or their genetics totally suck, or by most of the negative responses on here most have all three.
All people aren't created equal, if you haven't got a physique that you can compare to top amateurs on 1000 to 1500mgs per week, these days forget being a pro that will ever make any money out of the sport, but if you continue, dont worry you will have company with heaps of amateurs from the local shows to the nationals to the pros,of guys simply trying to overcome their genetic barriers with extra mgs, and if you have potential on that dose, dont worry with the direction of the sport these days you are still going to have to up it considerably, but in your case it may be worth it. Just dont be one of the guys doing 4000 to 6000mg with no chance of placing top6 as thats not smart.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 15, 2008, 01:49:20 AM
Hahahah...OK Juiceman.

BUT, if you ever want your 15 inch "Billy Gunns" arms to break the 16 inch barrier-PM me, I can help you.
15 inch guns ,ha, bro you don't campare to me so save yourself the embarressment. But if you insist post your pic and i will post mine, believe you will make a fool of yourself
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 15, 2008, 10:50:46 PM
15 inch guns ,ha, bro you don't campare to me so save yourself the embarressment. But if you insist post your pic and i will post mine, believe you will make a fool of yourself


Yeah "bro" my 20 inch drug free guns to your 15 inch 2 grams a week toothpicks is not a fair comparison!


And last, if you ever want to learn how to get big, PM me, I will allow you to come to So Cal and see how the champs do it.

Now beat it you skinny broomstick before I put another owning on ya.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on June 16, 2008, 03:05:16 AM

Yeah "bro" my 20 inch drug free guns to your 15 inch 2 grams a week toothpicks is not a fair comparison!


And last, if you ever want to learn how to get big, PM me, I will allow you to come to So Cal and see how the champs do it.

Now beat it you skinny broomstick before I put another owning on ya.

Post a pic of those brutal 20 inch cannons.  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 16, 2008, 03:52:26 AM

Yeah "bro" my 20 inch drug free guns to your 15 inch 2 grams a week toothpicks is not a fair comparison!


And last, if you ever want to learn how to get big, PM me, I will allow you to come to So Cal and see how the champs do it.

Now beat it you skinny broomstick before I put another owning on ya.
You are all talk, I am not skinny I am 5'8 - 250 pounds and when i am in contest shape I have striated glutes, post your pic mr. 20 inch guns, a claim like that needs to be back just like i've backed my claims on youtube (500+ bench, 405 for 12) for other getbiggers. I am still waiting for your pics so I can destroy you with mine in front of all getbig, you've been challanged.

If you want to getbig PM me and I won't mine helping you, oh if your too imbarressed about your pics then you can send it through PM and I promise I won't show anyone sense you won't post a pic on hear because your too scared.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: TrueGrit on June 16, 2008, 05:55:04 AM

Yeah "bro" my 20 inch drug free guns to your 15 inch 2 grams a week toothpicks is not a fair comparison!


Wow, 20 inch guns with no roids?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: james_hetfield on June 16, 2008, 06:05:31 AM
Wow, 20 inch guns with no roids?

you people are a bunch of retards. He clearly described the cycles he was on in this thread alone. How do you come to the conclusion there was no roids involved?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 16, 2008, 06:13:40 AM
Wow, 20 inch guns with no roids?
I think he might have meant 20" both arms combined, in the absence of proof.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 16, 2008, 08:46:56 AM
I think he might have meant combined,20" both arms  in the absence of proof.
lol, can't wait until he post his pic.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 16, 2008, 11:51:35 AM
you people are a bunch of retards. He clearly described the cycles he was on in this thread alone. How do you come to the conclusion there was no roids involved?

I have not done a cycle in over 20 years, well almost 20, 1989/90. It took 3-4 years to make gains again naturally.

I would have never gotten to my full potential if I had kept cycling the drugs off and on. By staying off it helped me push for gains that would not evaporate as soon as the cycle ended. And the cycles I did were nothing compared to the cycles today.


You are all talk, I am not skinny I am 5'8 - 250 pounds and when i am in contest shape I have striated glutes, post your pic mr. 20 inch guns, a claim like that needs to be back just like i've backed my claims on youtube (500+ bench, 405 for 12) for other getbiggers. I am still waiting for your pics so I can destroy you with mine in front of all getbig, you've been challanged.

If you want to getbig PM me and I won't mine helping you, oh if your too imbarressed about your pics then you can send it through PM and I promise I won't show anyone sense you won't post a pic on hear because your too scared.

Like I said Junior, with the "striated glutes", my guns drug free are 5 inches bigger than yours on the juice-that is a guarantee.

So PM me, I will get you on a program to get the 20 inch guns you dream of in your sleep.

But you will NEVER recover form the owning I am giving you right now!

 ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 16, 2008, 11:53:08 AM
Wow, 20 inch guns with no roids?

Pumped, with a fairly high BF, but they are over 20 drug free.

If onetimesofty ever wants to verify that he can come on down to So Cal, and we can meet up, anytime-anywhere.

But here is a guy here in San Diego that has 21/21.5 arms (pumped) drug free- that can be verified by Dogg Crapp (Dante), PM him and ask how big Jonathon Simmons arms are and if he is drug free.

This can be verified by others that post here.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: toolarge4u on June 16, 2008, 12:15:35 PM
johnny vegas melting down like the pile of butter he is...way to back it up champ. Alot of horsehit coming out your mouth and no proof. Whos AE are you here?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 16, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Pumped, with a fairly high BF, but they are over 20 drug free.

If onetimesofty ever wants to verify that he can come on down to So Cal, and we can meet up, anytime-anywhere.

But here is a guy here in San Diego that has 21/21.5 arms (pumped) drug free- that can be verified by Dogg Crapp (Dante), PM him and ask how big Jonathon Simmons arms are and if he is drug free.

This can be verified by others that post here.

Why not just post a pic of your arms with a tape around it?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 16, 2008, 01:10:29 PM
But here is a guy here in San Diego that has 21/21.5 arms (pumped) drug free- that can be verified by Dogg Crapp (Dante), PM him and ask how big Jonathon Simmons arms are and if he is drug free.

Dante "believes" everyone who claims natural status.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 16, 2008, 01:19:47 PM
Dante "believes" everyone who claims natural status.

 ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 16, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
Why not just post a pic of your arms with a tape around it?

No camera  ::) ....lol

Like I said, next time your in town let me know-I will show you in person, at the gym.

Dante "believes" everyone who claims natural status.

DC has known JS for many years-so have I. JS has never fluctuated in weight or size. So unless JS is on 24/7/365 then he is drug free in my book.

johnny vegas melting down like the pile of butter he is...way to back it up champ. Alot of horsehit coming out your mouth and no proof. Whos AE are you here?

 ;D ;D

Are you the one that went bezerk when your GF dumped you?? Just curious if that was you or not.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Disgusted on June 16, 2008, 01:53:23 PM
No camera  ::) ....lol

Like I said, next time your in town let me know-I will show you in person, at the gym.

DC has known JS for many years-so have I. JS has never fluctuated in weight or size. So unless JS is on 24/7/365 then he is drug free in my book.

 ;D ;D

Are you the one that went bezerk when your GF dumped you?? Just curious if that was you or not.

I will never be in town sooooooooooooooo till then I will just have to believe that you are walking around with 20 in muscular guns naturally.  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 16, 2008, 02:09:03 PM
its just easier for all these guys to say they just don't take enough gas, other than to think they don't train hard enough, or eat enough, or their genetics totally suck, or by most of the negative responses on here most have all three.
All people aren't created equal, if you haven't got a physique that you can compare to top amateurs on 1000 to 1500mgs per week, these days forget being a pro that will ever make any money out of the sport, but if you continue, dont worry you will have company with heaps of amateurs from the local shows to the nationals to the pros,of guys simply trying to overcome their genetic barriers with extra mgs, and if you have potential on that dose, dont worry with the direction of the sport these days you are still going to have to up it considerably, but in your case it may be worth it. Just dont be one of the guys doing 4000 to 6000mg with no chance of placing top6 as thats not smart.

bullshit, I'm sick of hearing this shit - its all about hard work, dedication, blah blah blah.

its all about drugs, no ifs, buts or maybes.

studies show that steroid users who sit on their ass all day put on more muscle than naturals who workout.

bodybuilding has been exposed - all drugs.

if not explain why tom prince, levrone, titus, and countless others all look like they weigh 120lbs these days now that they are off the drugs ::)

if someone is not responding as well as others to gear its because they have fake/underdosed gear,or are eating a severe calorie deficit.

studies show plenty of gains in people with h.i.v. cancer, etc etc when real gear is used. so your bullshit comments that some people don't respond due to genetics is a complete joke.

please never talk about this again, you know nothing.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 16, 2008, 03:22:28 PM
I will never be in town sooooooooooooooo till then I will just have to believe that you are walking around with 20 in muscular guns naturally.  ;D

They are 19 cold, not 20, they pump to 20 (260#), and yes, that is with a a fairly high 25-30% BF level.

At lower BF (220#) they were 18 cold, 19 pumped.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 16, 2008, 04:00:05 PM
They are 19 cold, not 20, they pump to 20 (260#), and yes, that is with a a fairly high 25-30% BF level.

At lower BF (220#) they were 18 cold, 19 pumped.

Dude just stop by a photo store somewhere they'll be glad to get those guns digitized for getbig for next to nothing.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 16, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
Dude just stop by a photo store somewhere they'll be glad to get those guns digitized for getbig for next to nothing.

OK.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 16, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
bullshit, I'm sick of hearing this shit - its all about hard work, dedication, blah blah blah.

its all about drugs, no ifs, buts or maybes.

studies show that steroid users who sit on their ass all day put on more muscle than naturals who workout.

bodybuilding has been exposed - all drugs.

if not explain why tom prince, levrone, titus, and countless others all look like they weigh 120lbs these days now that they are off the drugs ::)

if someone is not responding as well as others to gear its because they have fake/underdosed gear,or are eating a severe calorie deficit.

studies show plenty of gains in people with h.i.v. cancer, etc etc when real gear is used. so your bullshit comments that some people don't respond due to genetics is a complete joke.

please never talk about this again, you know nothing.

 ::) i dont think we need to ask you about your genetics your post says it all.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:03:33 AM
Johnny says his natural physique makes mine look like shyte and his 20 inch arms are better then my 15 inch arms and he calls me skinny, but since he can't back it up with a pic I am challanging him here right now.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:05:08 AM
contest day nearly 18 months ago as a light heavy
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:06:29 AM
3 weeks prior aT 207
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:07:41 AM
POST A PIC JOHNNY
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:08:49 AM
5 weeks out at 215, 5'8
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:26:15 AM
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:32:49 AM
Johnny I need to PM you so you vcan help me get my pro card, but I think 2 d-bols a day is too much I am going to have liver failure and I am having roid rage so I am going to cut back to 1 a day just like Arnold did.

Your turn to post a pic, I only did because you kept insisting I had 15 inch arms and was skinny, you say you would make my skinny ass look stupid so post  a pic and if everyone here thinks you have a better physique or you are more ripped then me, or can bench more then prove it as I did
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: njflex on June 17, 2008, 07:46:09 AM
Johnny I need to PM you so you vcan help me get my pro card, but I think 2 d-bols a day is too much I am going to have liver failure and I am having roid rage so I am going to cut back to 1 a day just like Arnold did.

Your turn to post a pic, I only did because you kept insisting I had 15 inch arms and was skinny, you say you would make my skinny ass look stupid so post  a pic and if everyone here thinks you have a better physique or you are more ripped then me, or can bench more then prove it as I did
u look good.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Paul Allen on June 17, 2008, 07:49:00 AM
you are an ugly asshole, one time hard.

great physique though.  are you natural?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 07:53:46 AM
you are an ugly asshole, one time hard.

great physique though.  are you natural?
lol, hell no, however I've only been juicing for 3 years now, only 18 months befor the photos, and I am probably going to juice year round for now on, on the low end 250 mg per week and as high as, whatever it take to win my next show.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 17, 2008, 08:03:47 AM
bullshit, I'm sick of hearing this shit - its all about hard work, dedication, blah blah blah.

its all about drugs, no ifs, buts or maybes.

studies show that steroid users who sit on their ass all day put on more muscle than naturals who workout.

bodybuilding has been exposed - all drugs.

if not explain why tom prince, levrone, titus, and countless others all look like they weigh 120lbs these days now that they are off the drugs ::)

if someone is not responding as well as others to gear its because they have fake/underdosed gear,or are eating a severe calorie deficit.

studies show plenty of gains in people with h.i.v. cancer, etc etc when real gear is used. so your bullshit comments that some people don't respond due to genetics is a complete joke.

please never talk about this again, you know nothing.

 ::) i dont think we need to ask you about your genetics your post says it all.

they are better than yours  ;)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Paul Allen on June 17, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
lol, hell no, however I've only been juicing for 3 years now, only 18 months befor the photos, and I am probably going to juice year round for now on, on the low end 250 mg per week and as high as, whatever it take to win my next show.

250 mg of what?

what's your opinion on dbol only cycles?
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 17, 2008, 08:12:59 AM
you are an ugly asshole, one time hard.


Do you usually think in terms of dating potential "paul allen"? :-*
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Overload on June 17, 2008, 09:02:11 AM


Impressive.


8)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 09:15:46 AM
you are an ugly asshole, one time hard.

great physique though.  are you natural?

LOL...UGLY does not even BEGIN to describe OneTimeSoftie!


And seriously, if you are juiced in those pics, I feel sorry for you. You'll never recover.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 09:18:21 AM
lol, hell no, however I've only been juicing for 3 years now, only 18 months befor the photos, and I am probably going to juice year round for now on, on the low end 250 mg per week and as high as, whatever it take to win my next show.

BTW, what happened to your legs and calves??

Looks like  they ran away and never came back  ::)


Do you usually think in terms of dating potential "paul allen"? :-*

Pumpster, I bet you like OneTimeSoftie!  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Paul Allen on June 17, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
Do you usually think in terms of dating potential "paul allen"? :-*

i only fuck sluts who use the bowflex.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 17, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
onetime hard backed his word up with pictures .... now johnny back yours up
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 10:17:51 AM
250 mg of what?

what's your opinion on dbol only cycles?
250 mg of test e is enough to maintain for several months then I'll hit 2 months hard up 2500mg(test e, deca , d-bol,) then back to 250 for maintanance, when getting ready for my next show I will bring in tren, winny, and anavar, but no clen only ECA.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 10:29:31 AM
BTW, what happened to your legs and calves??

Looks like  they ran away and never came back  ::)


Pumpster, I bet you like OneTimeSoftie!  ::)
You haven't even shown us 1 bodypart and you are crtiticesing me not showing my legs or calves, and calling me soft about what, some pros don't even get as shredded as me, you aren't even in my league, I am in my mid twenties and I expect a pro card in the next 2 years, you have been involved in this as a natural for nearly 20 years and you could've obtain what you have ( which I will believe is nothing until you show us a pic.) inside of one year on the gear, but you must believe in your own stupidity that juice doesn`t make a different, You said you owned me, the ultimately owning method on getbig is proof by picture or by video and I have done both, so the only person that has been owned on this board is you, You`ve been called out and you backed down, now everybody on getbig will know you as a chicken MR. 20 INCH ARMS,.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 03:03:46 PM
You haven't even shown us 1 bodypart and you are crtiticesing me not showing my legs or calves, and calling me soft about what, some pros don't even get as shredded as me, you aren't even in my league, I am in my mid twenties and I expect a pro card in the next 2 years, you have been involved in this as a natural for nearly 20 years and you could've obtain what you have ( which I will believe is nothing until you show us a pic.) inside of one year on the gear, but you must believe in your own stupidity that juice doesn`t make a different, You said you owned me, the ultimately owning method on getbig is proof by picture or by video and I have done both, so the only person that has been owned on this board is you, You`ve been called out and you backed down, now everybody on getbig will know you as a chicken MR. 20 INCH ARMS,.

Like I said junior, whenever you're in So Cal give me a call,  I will private train you, give you some tips, because you're not very big, a few cuts-yes, but being lean does not count when you're a broomstick.

(http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/accessories/22668_Broomstick.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: pumpster on June 17, 2008, 03:07:12 PM
i only fuck sluts who use the bowflex.

lol another bow groupie.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Cap on June 17, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
i only fuck sluts who use the bowflex.
Hopefully they are skinny because they ain't gonna drop weight with that thing.

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: honest on June 17, 2008, 06:06:33 PM
they are better than yours  ;)

    ;) of course they are  ;D 
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 17, 2008, 06:30:14 PM
Like I said junior, whenever you're in So Cal give me a call,  I will private train you, give you some tips, because you're not very big, a few cuts-yes, but being lean does not count when you're a broomstick.

(http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/accessories/22668_Broomstick.jpg)
 ;D
You mention you being 30%, well if thats what you mean by big then I ain't big, but right now I have 20 inch arms and 30 inch thighs and I deadlifted off the ground the other day 6 plates for 5 reps, if you can make me improve on these stats then your the man, so if you can't post a pic then give me some proof that you have been responsible for someone going pro, then I'll call you, my word ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 17, 2008, 10:05:12 PM
You mention you being 30%, well if thats what you mean by big then I ain't big, but right now I have 20 inch arms and 30 inch thighs and I deadlifted off the ground the other day 6 plates for 5 reps, if you can make me improve on these stats then your the man, so if you can't post a pic then give me some proof that you have been responsible for someone going pro, then I'll call you, my word ::)

My BF is high because Ive been doing this shit for 32 years junior-the last 20 drug free-the first 6 drug free-and I still have size.

Like I said, whenever you want to come to So Cal or The Mecca, let me know.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 18, 2008, 09:17:32 AM
My BF is high because Ive been doing this shit for 32 years junior-the last 20 drug free-the first 6 drug free-and I still have size.

Like I said, whenever you want to come to So Cal or The Mecca, let me know.
Is that all you got chubby, you've said that on every post, I live in Canada, no one is going to think you matched the owning I gave you by telling me to come out to you. Lets get this straight you 30 % 20 inch arms. I have 12% 20 inch arms, so if I went to thirty % I would have 24 inch arms, but I wouldn't brag about it because it would be all rolls, BTW what size is your waist- 43inches

Don't bother responding everybody already knows what you are going to say  "come to cali" or "PM me and I'll teach yuou somthing"

32 YEARS OF TRAINING AND YOUR STILL ASHAMED OF YOUR PHYSIQUE OTHERWISE YOU WOULD POST A PIC WITH CONFIDENCE.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 18, 2008, 07:38:38 PM
Is that all you got chubby, you've said that on every post, I live in Canada, no one is going to think you matched the owning I gave you by telling me to come out to you. Lets get this straight you 30 % 20 inch arms. I have 12% 20 inch arms, so if I went to thirty % I would have 24 inch arms, but I wouldn't brag about it because it would be all rolls, BTW what size is your waist- 43inches

Don't bother responding everybody already knows what you are going to say  "come to cali" or "PM me and I'll teach yuou somthing"

32 YEARS OF TRAINING AND YOUR STILL ASHAMED OF YOUR PHYSIQUE OTHERWISE YOU WOULD POST A PIC WITH CONFIDENCE.

"Chubby"...LOL..........that hurts  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: toolarge4u on June 19, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
My BF is high because Ive been doing this shit for 32 years junior-the last 20 drug free-the first 6 drug free-and I still have size.

Like I said, whenever you want to come to So Cal or The Mecca, let me know.


oh christ, gayer then richard simmons at a sperm bank taste testing...gimmick homo go away, you got owned LOL. Epic hippo meltdown.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 19, 2008, 11:46:06 AM

oh christ, gayer then richard simmons at a sperm bank taste testing...gimmick homo go away, you got owned LOL. Epic hippo meltdown.

Hippo meltdow.......lol......O K Liberace, BTW were you or were you not the littly homo that had a meltdown over his GF dumping your homo ass...................???????
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: james_hetfield on June 19, 2008, 12:18:30 PM
Hippo meltdow.......lol......O K Liberace, BTW were you or were you not the littly homo that had a meltdown over his GF dumping your homo ass...................???????

What differance does it make? Youve been outed as the asshole that you claim not to be. The kid posted his pic but you pussied out. Kill yourself.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 19, 2008, 12:45:04 PM
What differance does it make? Youve been outed as the asshole that you claim not to be. The kid posted his pic but you pussied out. Kill yourself.
haha, lol, he really has nothing to lose by posting a pic, but we all know that he is fat and has very little muscle. At 30% bodyfat he has mistake his fat mass as muscle mass and there is nothing wrong with being obese or having crappy physique, but don't act like an expert when you have it all wrong. He doesn't know that much about the behind the scenes of bodybuilding, clearly just a wanabe
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 19, 2008, 04:38:05 PM
haha, lol, he really has nothing to lose by posting a pic, but we all know that he is fat and has very little muscle. At 30% bodyfat he has mistake his fat mass as muscle mass and there is nothing wrong with being obese or having crappy physique, but don't act like an expert when you have it all wrong. He doesn't know that much about the behind the scenes of bodybuilding, clearly just a wanabe

Hahaha...I have more muscle DRUG FREE than you do on 2Kmg week. That is a fact. And you still have small arms and are UGLY as shit. And your legs-smalla s shit I bet, what are they 22 inches, or less??? 15 inch calves???

People can workout and change their bodies, but ugly is to the bone!

OneTimeSoftie-youre never going to recover from thw owning Ihave given you.

Now go back in you Moms basement and be thankful I have not destroyed you anymore than I have.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 19, 2008, 04:41:47 PM
250 mg of test e is enough to maintain for several months then I'll hit 2 months hard up 2500mg(test e, deca , d-bol,) then back to 250 for maintanance, when getting ready for my next show I will bring in tren, winny, and anavar, but no clen only ECA.

You're a fucking idiot-you know that.

Even on 3G a week you still look like dog shit.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 19, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
5 weeks out at 215, 5'8

Hahahah....215 my ass...more like a buck 75. Fucking lying shit.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 20, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
Anavar and deca was the ultimate stack for size and expecially strength.

Don't know what they put in Anavar, but it made you strong oas fuck, all the powerlifters lived ion that shit.

STFU slaveboy, you weren't even born yet, you just fell off the turnup truck.

grandpa meltdown.  most of the 70s guys are lying, they took more than they want you to believe. and arnold popped LOTS of orals.

they didnt have  as many different compounds as they do today..but they took alot of what they had.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 20, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
Hahaha...I have more muscle DRUG FREE than you do on 2Kmg week. That is a fact. And you still have small arms and are UGLY as shit. And your legs-smalla s shit I bet, what are they 22 inches, or less??? 15 inch calves???

People can workout and change their bodies, but ugly is to the bone!

OneTimeSoftie-youre never going to recover from thw owning Ihave given you.

Now go back in you Moms basement and be thankful I have not destroyed you anymore than I have.

 Lol, you owned no one. Youve come across as a typical internet shit talker and coward. The guy posted pics and looks good. You then start talking about his face and making claims about your physique that you wont back up with a pic. Your a chickenshit and everyone here can tell that your fat and ashamed to man up and  post a pic like he did. If you really have 20 inch arms then i bet they are 15 inchs with 5 inches of pure fat. You are the clai=ssic internet bullshitter who would run away if your pic actually got posted. Everyone is laughing at you and not one person here believes your claims.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 20, 2008, 08:14:09 AM
grandpa meltdown.  most of the 70s guys are lying, they took more than they want you to believe. and arnold popped LOTS of orals.

they didnt have  as many different compounds as they do today..but they took alot of what they had.

Errr....OK. Mr Know it all!

Lol, you owned no one. Youve come across as a typical internet shit talker and coward. The guy posted pics and looks good. You then start talking about his face and making claims about your physique that you wont back up with a pic. Your a chickenshit and everyone here can tell that your fat and ashamed to man up and  post a pic like he did. If you really have 20 inch arms then i bet they are 15 inchs with 5 inches of pure fat. You are the clai=ssic internet bullshitter who would run away if your pic actually got posted. Everyone is laughing at you and not one person here believes your claims.

Hi Squad! Nice to have you back after the DA meltdown. BTW, who was the one who RAN AWAY when they got owned??????

BOOM!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 20, 2008, 08:20:12 AM
Errr....OK. Mr Know it all!

Hi Squad! Nice to have you back after the DA meltdown. BTW, who was the one who RAN AWAY when they got owned??????

BOOM!
hahahahaha
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: toolarge4u on June 20, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
Hippo meltdow.......lol......O K Liberace, BTW were you or were you not the littly homo that had a meltdown over his GF dumping your homo ass...................???????

LOL ahhh no? Im not even known here much. Still a little homo though ,you got me there.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: candidizzle on June 20, 2008, 10:21:02 AM
Hippo meltdow.......lol......O K Liberace, BTW were you or were you not the littly homo that had a meltdown over his GF dumping your homo ass...................???????
JOHNNYV, toopowerful4you is the poster who you are talkign about, not toolarge4you
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 20, 2008, 11:21:56 AM
LOL ahhh no? Im not even known here much. Still a little homo though ,you got me there.

OK girlie boy!

JOHNNYV, toopowerful4you is the poster who you are talkign about, not toolarge4you

My bad!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 20, 2008, 04:09:49 PM
Lol, you owned no one. Youve come across as a typical internet shit talker and coward. The guy posted pics and looks good. You then start talking about his face and making claims about your physique that you wont back up with a pic. Your a chickenshit and everyone here can tell that your fat and ashamed to man up and  post a pic like he did. If you really have 20 inch arms then i bet they are 15 inchs with 5 inches of pure fat. You are the clai=ssic internet bullshitter who would run away if your pic actually got posted. Everyone is laughing at you and not one person here believes your claims.
Best post of the day
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 20, 2008, 04:23:15 PM
Hahahah....215 my ass...more like a buck 75. Fucking lying shit.
Did you not see my youtube video, I did 405 for 13 reps on the decline, in other words I manhandled 405 and you say I am 175 in weight; dammmm I better take up power lifting, stupid. You have already 4 or 5 people here saying you have owned no one and calling you chicken for not posting a pic, slaveboy, who I have not agreed with in the past, just told you the way the game was played in the 70 and he is 100% right, why do you not believe that your hero Arnold popped orals like candy. You are out-numbered -outclassed- you have been marked as a chicken because you have not posted a pic-you have people on this thread telling me I looked good, and still you insist I dont. You are either to dumb or to blind to see that you are getting owned from every angle, give it up flabby arm.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 20, 2008, 05:40:43 PM
Best post of the day

Hahah...OK "Mr Shredded Glutes".......


Did you not see my youtube video, I did 405 for 13 reps on the decline, in other words I manhandled 405 and you say I am 175 in weight; dammmm I better take up power lifting, stupid. You have already 4 or 5 people here saying you have owned no one and calling you chicken for not posting a pic, slaveboy, who I have not agreed with in the past, just told you the way the game was played in the 70 and he is 100% right, why do you not believe that your hero Arnold popped orals like candy. You are out-numbered -outclassed- you have been marked as a chicken because you have not posted a pic-you have people on this thread telling me I looked good, and still you insist I dont. You are either to dumb or to blind to see that you are getting owned from every angle, give it up flabby arm.

Fake ass poser. Using a DECLINE bench, bouncing the wegiht off his skinny ass chest while ARCHING a foot off the bench. Get serious ass clown.

BTW, if you are such a ripped motherfuucker, post up the shows your sorry ass won.

www.musclememory.com

BOOM! You little shit talking bitch.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: no one on June 20, 2008, 06:33:23 PM
My BF is high because Ive been doing this shit for 32 years junior-the last 20 drug free-the first 6 drug free-and I still have size.

Like I said, whenever you want to come to So Cal or The Mecca, let me know.

 ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 22, 2008, 10:44:23 AM
My BF is high because Ive been doing this shit for 32 years junior-the last 20 drug free-the first 6 drug free-and I still have size.

Like I said, whenever you want to come to So Cal or The Mecca, let me know.

Hahaha..sounds like a perma-bulker to me... year round 45% bf
just like squadpussy.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: BEAST 8692 on June 22, 2008, 01:43:12 PM
Hahah...OK "Mr Shredded Glutes".......


Fake ass poser. Using a DECLINE bench, bouncing the wegiht off his skinny ass chest while ARCHING a foot off the bench. Get serious ass clown.

BTW, if you are such a ripped motherfuucker, post up the shows your sorry ass won.

www.musclememory.com

BOOM! You little shit talking bitch.

YOU BLUFFED, GOT CALLED AND, IN THE PROCESS, GOT YOUR FAT ASS BRUTALLY OWNED.

LIVE WITH IT COWARD.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 22, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
Quote from: BEAST 8692
YOU BLUFFED, GOT CALLED AND, IN THE PROCESS, GOT YOUR FAT ASS BRUTALLY OWNED.

LIVE WITH IT COWARD.


Hey "Beast", my challenge goes out to you gay ass also-bring it on down to So Cal and I will own your puny ass like there is no tomorrow.

Hope this helps you little ass muncher  ::)


Quote from: BEAST 8692
i will gladly admit, this bodybuilding stuff is new to me. my main interest in life has been fighting.

in a fight, u lose there is not only mental and physical pain, but everyone calls you a 'bum', a 'mug' etc.

i love fighting and i work on my strength and conditioning hard, but my respect for bodybuilders is going up and up.


Opps.....i didn't know "Beast" was a MMA tap out pusssy. I better run for the hills......lol!

Fucking little pussy .....
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: slaveboy1980 on June 22, 2008, 02:50:50 PM
Hey "Beast", my challenge goes out to you gay ass also-bring it on down to So Cal and I will own your puny ass like there is no tomorrow.

Hope this helps you little ass muncher  ::)


Opps.....i didn't know "Beast" was a MMA tap out pusssy. I better run for the hills......lol!

Fucking little pussy .....

high frequency swearing = meltdown and you obviously got owned.  :D

your just embarrassing yourself

 
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 22, 2008, 02:55:11 PM
high frequency swearing = meltdown and you obviously got owned.  :D

your just embarrassing yourself

 
He doesn't know the definition of getting owned, he tells everybody to go to cal. and if they don't he says "I owned you"
 There are a least 6 guys including you that have owned his ass and he still insist that he is the only one thats doing the owning. Someone please educate this man
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: james_hetfield on June 22, 2008, 03:07:45 PM
damn dude youre a retard. why dont you go up to where hes at and show him whats what instead? why would anyone want to go down to california just to see someone whose too chickenshit to post a pic of himself after claiming to look better? get a grip on reality, you look like shit. dont try to convince yourself or anyone else otherwise.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 22, 2008, 03:23:56 PM
HAHA Johnny Vegas has been exposed as an old, fat lying sack of shit. He claims a 20 inch fatcep but won't post a quick pic. A dude posts a pic of his decent physique and liar vegas still claims to look better. When prompted to man-up and post a pic the cowardly fucker says 'come down to So Cal' when he knows full well that no one is going to make a special trip just to see some fat liar who claims to work out there.

HAHAHA he should have just admitted that he was too scared to post a picture of himself instead of partaking in his own humiliation and brutal 'owning' ;D ;D

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 22, 2008, 03:39:44 PM
HAHA Johnny Vegas has been exposed as an old, fat lying sack of shit. He claims a 20 inch fatcep but won't post a quick pic. A dude posts a pic of his decent physique and liar vegas still claims to look better. When prompted to man-up and post a pic the cowardly fucker says 'come down to So Cal' when he knows full well that no one is going to make a special trip just to see some fat liar who claims to work out there.

HAHAHA he should have just admitted that he was too scared to post a picture of himself instead of partaking in his own humiliation and brutal 'owning' ;D ;D



hahha.....

OK Squad, but at least I didn't run and hide from DA when he posted a pic of my trailer park!

damn dude youre a retard. why dont you go up to where hes at and show him whats what instead?

Because this cock sucker knows his "bouncing" of 405 off a fucking decline with his ass 8 inches off the benc is bullshit! That's why!

Hey dipshit-next time you post a video, try doing a something impressive-like a 405 incline bench or flat bench, and control the weight istead of bouncing it and arching your back like a little pussy!

BOOM!

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 22, 2008, 03:44:28 PM
hahha.....

OK Squad, but at least I didn't run and hide from DA when he posted a pic of my trailer park!





You thinking I'm that fat, middle-aged trailerpark loser is almost as pathetic as your fear and reluctance to post any pictures of this supposed 20 inch arm and superior physique. Does it not embarass and humiliate you that EVERYONE on this thread is laughing at you and knows that you are a fat liar who is shaking in fear and too terrified to back up your bullshit claims?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 22, 2008, 03:47:28 PM
You thinking I'm that fat, middle-aged trailerpark loser is almost as pathetic as your fear and reluctance to post any pictures of this supposed 20 inch arm and superior physique. Does it not embarass and humiliate you that EVERYONE on this thread is laughing at you and knows that you are a fat liar who is shaking in fear and too terrified to back up your bullshit claims?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D


Hahha...this coming from a fat ass who posts a pic of himself in a sliding glass door....
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 22, 2008, 03:49:27 PM

Hahha...this coming from a fat ass who posts a pic of himself in a sliding glass door....
hahahaha epic desperate deflecting away from the fact that you got owned on this thread and are too much of a cowardly internet shit talker to post a pic of your massive arms and fantastic physique ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Deadpool on June 22, 2008, 03:50:32 PM
oh stop.  someone flushes this to the Y

wake up hedgehog
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 22, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
hahahaha epic desperate deflecting away from the fact that you got owned on this thread and are too much of a cowardly internet shit talker to post a pic of your massive arms and fantastic physique ;D ;D ;D


Hey Squad, how is your ass feeling after DA raped it???  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 23, 2008, 12:36:10 AM

Hey Squad, how is your ass feeling after DA raped it???  ;D
Only a reatarted person doesn't know when he's been defeated. wake up stupid everyone here is against you can't you see that, are you that dumb. You 've made a fool of yourself yet you keep posting like an idiot with nothing that can help your reputation, have you no shame. There is only one way to redeem yourself by posting a pic. 30% body fat and you want to step up, you need help dieting. If you just ask nicely I can send you a nice diet program, oh wait a second.......you lose that fat on those arms they might shrink to 15.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 23, 2008, 04:21:50 AM
a good thread has benn flushed down the toilet by the idiots "onetimehard" (you should try viagra, bro), "Johnny Vegas" and "Squadfather" "SweetMuscles".  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: LatsMcGee on June 23, 2008, 04:23:53 AM
This thread is a fucking mess. 
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 23, 2008, 06:36:31 AM
a good thread has benn flushed down the toilet by the idiots "onetimehard" (you should try viagra, bro), "Johnny Vegas" and "Squadfather" "SweetMuscles".  :'( :'(
i agree there was potential for vince basile, gh15, disgusted, onlyme etc to chime in with stories etc, instead we got this shit  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: DK II on June 23, 2008, 06:38:34 AM
i agree there was potential for vince basile, gh15, disgusted, onlyme etc to chime in with stories etc, instead we got this shit  ::)

 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 23, 2008, 07:56:03 AM
Only a reatarted person doesn't know when he's been defeated. wake up stupid everyone here is against you can't you see that, are you that dumb. You 've made a fool of yourself yet you keep posting like an idiot with nothing that can help your reputation, have you no shame. There is only one way to redeem yourself by posting a pic. 30% body fat and you want to step up, you need help dieting. If you just ask nicely I can send you a nice diet program, oh wait a second.......you lose that fat on those arms they might shrink to 15.

This coming from a broomstick that "bounces" 405 off a decline bench to prove how strong what an ass clown he is.

i agree there was potential for vince basile, gh15, disgusted, onlyme etc to chime in with stories etc, instead we got this shit  ::)

Yeah, but those stories are all pretty much on the Hostory board already-how many times do you want to hear them.

a good thread has benn flushed down the toilet by the idiots "onetimehard" (you should try viagra, bro), "Johnny Vegas" and "Squadfather" "SweetMuscles".  :'( :'(

Sorry guys, I had to spank decline boy with his bullshit.  ;D
he is.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: SweetMuscles on June 23, 2008, 08:45:05 AM


Sorry guys, I had to spank decline boy with his bullshit.  ;D
he is.

I wouldn't apologize as this thread turned into a savage owning of you and your bullshit claims. Won't post a pic but will rip on a guy who manned up to the challenge and then you started talking about his face after he destroyed you.
Dude, serious, look at the amount of guys who mocked you and disagreed with you on this thread. It's embarrassing. People are sniggering at you and know you're a fat liar. ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: james_hetfield on June 23, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
i agree there was potential for vince basile, gh15, disgusted, onlyme etc to chime in with stories etc, instead we got this shit  ::)

ANYRHING WORTH DISCUSSING WAS  IN THE FIRST 3 OR 4 PAGES. THIS THREAD DIED AFTER THAT.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: toolarge4u on June 23, 2008, 09:58:26 AM
OK girlie boy!

My bad!

girly boy...ya you got 20" arm at obese level bf...i got a 19" arm single digit bf...and im the girl LOL
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: BEAST 8692 on June 23, 2008, 10:04:22 AM
girly boy...ya you got 20" arm at obese level bf...i got a 19" arm single digit bf...and im the girl LOL

wrong x 1 and right x 2

wrong:  he aint got anything close to a 20" arm and never did.

right  :  he is obese

right  :  you are a girl

Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: knny187 on June 23, 2008, 10:05:12 AM
& medford knows shit
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Fatpanda on June 23, 2008, 12:28:26 PM
and so it continues..... :'(
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: OTHstrong on June 23, 2008, 02:56:34 PM
This coming from a broomstick that "bounces" 405 off a decline bench to prove how strong what an ass clown he is.


Sorry guys, I had to spank decline boy with his bullshit.  ;D
he is.
How many times are you going to keep coming back for more. In the history of getbig this is the most I have seen someone get owned. You have been disgraced, show some class.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 25, 2008, 09:26:05 PM
I wouldn't apologize as this thread turned into a savage owning of you and your bullshit claims. Won't post a pic but will rip on a guy who manned up to the challenge and then you started talking about his face after he destroyed you.
Dude, serious, look at the amount of guys who mocked you and disagreed with you on this thread. It's embarrassing. People are sniggering at you and know you're a fat liar. ::)


Not as much of the owning DA put on you.....when you closed your account down!

How many times are you going to keep coming back for more. In the history of getbig this is the most I have seen someone get owned. You have been disgraced, show some class.

You got your ass handed to you "Mr. Bounce"....and remember, your ugly, I can still diet down! I guess when someone gets spanked like you did with your bullshit you get delusional.

BOOM!
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 25, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
and so it continues..... :'(


OneTimePussy got his ass handed to him and ran off, looks like he cant take the heat..

Next time OneTimePussy boy, you better think twice before you mess with someone that will own your candy ass.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Figo on June 26, 2008, 12:57:15 AM
So...


Those 'Arnold era' cycles, eh?

Quite something....
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: WillGrant on June 26, 2008, 02:10:53 AM
So...


Those 'Arnold era' cycles, eh?

Quite something....
;D Yes its been very interesting reading
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Figo on June 26, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
;D Yes its been very interesting reading

Yes, 2 internet superstars debating whose cock is bigger... ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 26, 2008, 11:48:48 AM
Yes, 2 internet superstars debating whose cock is bigger... ::)

Come on, Squad and the other ass clown are not intenet "superstars", especially after Derek Anthony put the biggest Getbig owning ever on Squad  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Figo on June 26, 2008, 03:04:52 PM
Come on, Squad and the other ass clown are not intenet "superstars", especially after Derek Anthony put the biggest Getbig owning ever on Squad  ::)

Yes,

"superstars" ::), my mistake.
Title: Re: Arnold era cycle
Post by: Zaphod on June 26, 2008, 03:17:28 PM
Come on, Squad and the other ass clown are not intenet "superstars", especially after Derek Anthony put the biggest Getbig owning ever on Squad  ::)

DA was just a fucking little puppet in the "grand game"  8)