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landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« on: October 12, 2012, 01:36:12 PM »
There you go. Romney's bounce is receding.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/12/usa-campaign-idUSL1E8LCAY820121012

UPDATE 1-Fiery Biden sets stage for Obama recovery attempt



Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:57pm EDT

* Romney campaign seizes on Biden Benghazi security comment

* Obama prepares for debate rematch with Romney on Tuesday

* Reuters/Ipsos poll: Romney lead slips to 46 to 45 percent

By Patricia Zengerl :De

WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Joe Biden's spirited performance in the vice presidential debate had Republicans criticizing him for snide grins and a comment on Libya, but it set the stage for President Barack Obama to try to regain his footing during a rematch with challenger Mitt Romney next Tuesday.
 
After Obama was seen as largely passive against resurgent Republican Romney last week in their first debate before the Nov. 6 election, Biden fired up Democrats in Thursday's vice presidential debate by aggressively challenging Paul Ryan, Romney's running mate, on taxes, healthcare and foreign policy.
 

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 02:08:53 PM »
Romney wins by a landslide or Obama wins by a hair. I've been saying this for almost a year.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »
Romney wins by a landslide or Obama wins by a hair. I've been saying this for almost a year.

where do you get this shit

if anything it would be Obama by a comfortable margin or Romney by a hair


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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 07:21:02 PM »
where do you get this shit

if anything it would be Obama by a comfortable margin or Romney by a hair



Exactly. 

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 08:19:27 PM »
where do you get this shit

if anything it would be Obama by a comfortable margin or Romney by a hair



As of right now Obama's numbers are dropping like a rock.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 09:04:36 PM »
There you go. Romney's bounce is receding.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/12/usa-campaign-idUSL1E8LCAY820121012

UPDATE 1-Fiery Biden sets stage for Obama recovery attempt



Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:57pm EDT

* Romney campaign seizes on Biden Benghazi security comment

* Obama prepares for debate rematch with Romney on Tuesday

* Reuters/Ipsos poll: Romney lead slips to 46 to 45 percent

By Patricia Zengerl :De

WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Joe Biden's spirited performance in the vice presidential debate had Republicans criticizing him for snide grins and a comment on Libya, but it set the stage for President Barack Obama to try to regain his footing during a rematch with challenger Mitt Romney next Tuesday.
 
After Obama was seen as largely passive against resurgent Republican Romney last week in their first debate before the Nov. 6 election, Biden fired up Democrats in Thursday's vice presidential debate by aggressively challenging Paul Ryan, Romney's running mate, on taxes, healthcare and foreign policy.
 

46-45? That leaves 9 percent of the voters undecided. And how do undecideds break again in race, involving an incumbent?

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2012, 09:06:52 PM »
As of right now Obama's numbers are dropping like a rock.

Indeed. Check the RCP electoral college map. Obama's down to 201, as Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire have all been moved from "Leans Obama" to "toss-up".

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2012, 11:18:58 PM »
46-45? That leaves 9 percent of the voters undecided. And how do undecideds break again in race, involving an incumbent?

how did they break in 2004?

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 07:01:36 AM »
Saw a poll in August that had Obama up by 12 pts in Cook county...if he only wins the greater Chicago area by that slim a margin...he could be in trouble in Illinois.  I'm not betting on it...but who knows?

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 08:18:53 AM »
how did they break in 2004?

They broke for Bush. How did they break for the previous 7 incumbents?

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 09:48:57 AM »
They broke for Bush. How did they break for the previous 7 incumbents?

they broke for clinton in 96.   they broke for reagan in 84.  I"m not sure where you're going here.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 04:57:55 PM »
they broke for clinton in 96.   they broke for reagan in 84.  I"m not sure where you're going here.

No they didn't. Both Reagan and Clinton LOST independent voters. They got re-elected anyway because the margins were so huge over their respective opponents.

But don't take my word for it. Ask the guy who ran Clinton's campaign.

In these races, the undecided vote went heavily for the insurgent and the incumbent lost vote share between the final poll and the election, even when the incumbent was winning the contest easily overall. Six of eight presidents seeking reelection performed worse than the final Gallup poll predicted, while one finished the same (Reagan in 1984) and one gained votes (Bush in 2004). Seven of the nine insurgent candidates did better than the final Gallup survey predicted.

• In 1964, Johnson lost 3 points to Goldwater at the end.

• In 1972, Nixon lost 1 point to a third-party candidate.

• In 1976, there was a 4-point swing to Carter.

• In 1980, there was a 3-point swing to Reagan or Anderson.

In 1984, there was no change between the final poll and the results.

• In 1992, there was a 1-point shift away from Bush. In that contest, there was also a 5-point swing away from Clinton to Perot at the end.

In 1996, there was a 5-point swing away from Clinton and to Dole or Perot.

• Only Bush in 2004 ran better in the result than in the final poll, by 
2 points.

In other words, of the total of 
19 points that shifted between the final poll and the election results, 17 points or 89 percent went to the challenger.


http://www.dickmorris.com/undecided-lean-to-insurgent/

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 05:14:51 PM »
Bush had a good first term.  Big difference

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 06:02:51 AM »
Bush had a good first term.  Big difference

The idiots on this board only remember the last 2 years of his presidency WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CONGRESS.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2012, 06:10:17 AM »
The idiots on this board only remember the last 2 years of his presidency WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CONGRESS.

Was Bush on permanent vacation those 2 years?

Does that mean you will stop blaming Obama for the last 4 years?


And by the way isnt it gods will? So why are you complaining? Has your god abandoned you Dario?

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2012, 06:13:23 AM »
Bush had a good first term.  Big difference

He had but thats because Clinton gave him a nation that were doing great. It took 4 years of crap republican policies to wreck it thats why his last 4 sucked.

Obama has had a great 4 years especially considering the shit republicans handed over. Just imagine if he had inherited the same nation as Bush.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2012, 08:12:09 PM »
He had but thats because Clinton gave him a nation that were doing great. It took 4 years of crap republican policies to wreck it thats why his last 4 sucked.

Obama has had a great 4 years especially considering the shit republicans handed over. Just imagine if he had inherited the same nation as Bush.

How come no one else ever makes these points?  I completely agree that Bush's first years weren't "that" bad only because Clinton left him in such good shape.  Likewise, Obama's first 6 months on paper did not look good because of the disaster he inherited.  As of right now, the unemployment rate is lower than when he took office and there is also a net jobs gain.  Not counting the 1st 6 months his jobs numbers are pretty good.  Hope he really steps it up and takes Willard to the woodshed tomorrow night.

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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2012, 08:26:00 PM »
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Lights Out: Romney By 2 in North Carolina D+10 Poll
Breitbart ^ | 10/15/2012 | Tony Lee
Posted on October 15, 2012 11:16:01 PM EDT by Kolath

The liberal Public Policy Polling (PPP) group conducted a D+10 poll in North Carolina and still found Mitt Romney with a 2-point lead over President Barack Obama (49%-47%).

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2012, 08:45:18 PM »
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Romney heading for a Landslide Win
The Washington Times ^ | Friday, October 12, 2012 | Wayne Allen Root
Posted on October 15, 2012 10:55:14 PM EDT by Senator Goldwater

The news media are ignoring signs of mass disgust with Mr. Obama. In the West Virginia Democratic primary, a felon got 40 percent of the vote against Mr. Obama. In deep-blue Massachusetts and Connecticut, GOP Senate candidates are even or leading in recent polls. In pro-union Wisconsin, Scott Walker won by a country mile.

In 2008, Democrats controlled a majority of governorships. Today, Republicans control the majority of governorships. Presidential elections are always steered in each state by the party of the governor, the most powerful force in state politics.

After the 2010 census, electoral votes were added to states that usually lean Republican in elections: Texas, Florida, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, South Carolina and Utah. Deep-blue states such as New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota and Massachusetts lost electoral votes.

Christians will turn out in record numbers this year. Mr. Obama has offended Christians repeatedly. Last election, 20 million evangelical Christians did not vote. They will turn out in record numbers in 2012 to defeat the most anti-Christian president in U.S. history. Just recall the long lines at Chick-fil-A in August.

Voter rolls have been purged in 2012 of felons and illegals in many states — particularly Florida and Ohio. Turnout of Democrats will be nothing like in 2008.

The “enthusiasm factor” for Mr. Romney is huge. Conservatives are focused, intense, motivated and enthusiastic. Democrats who turned out for Mr. Obama in record numbers in 2008 are demoralized. I know several people who voted for him in 2008 but won’t do so again.

Finally, history proves that a majority of undecided voters break for the challenger. Mr. Romney will take most of the undecided voters on Election Day — just as Ronald Reagan did against Jimmy Carter in 1980.

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2012, 10:51:19 PM »
The idiots on this board only remember the last 2 years of his presidency WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CONGRESS.

This

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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2012, 12:57:53 AM »
How come no one else ever makes these points?  I completely agree that Bush's first years weren't "that" bad only because Clinton left him in such good shape.  Likewise, Obama's first 6 months on paper did not look good because of the disaster he inherited.  As of right now, the unemployment rate is lower than when he took office and there is also a net jobs gain.  Not counting the 1st 6 months his jobs numbers are pretty good.  Hope he really steps it up and takes Willard to the woodshed tomorrow night.

Because people are pretty stupid around here to say the least. They need a team to cheer for. Politics to them is like watching a football game. Pretty sad actually

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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2012, 12:58:46 AM »
This

And they had Bush locked up right?

Thats fine but then we can blame the last 4 years on a republican congress right?

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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2012, 05:57:33 AM »
*SCHADENFREUDE ALERT!* Daily/Kos SEIU poll gives Romney best numbers of the week (R-50, O-46)
 No linky, linky because Daily Kos is not welcome here at FR | 10/16/12 | Daily Kos
 
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:48:33 AM by The G Man

This was a PPP poll for Kos/SEIU conducted 10/12-14 of likely voters (previous results in parenthesis):



The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?

Obama 46 (47)
 Romney 50 (49)



At a time when other polls are moving back in the president's direction, our own weekly poll by Public Policy Polling saw the opposite—a two-point Romney gain. Per day:



Friday (38%) Obama 47, Romney 49
 Saturday (39%) Obama 49, Romney 47
 Sunday (24%) Obama 43, Romney 55







DDDUUUHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O!!!!!!!!!!







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Re: landslide ??? 333386 i don't think so
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2012, 10:22:24 AM »
Gallup - Romney 50%/Obama 46%
 Gallup ^ | 10/16 | Gallup

Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:05:38 PM by tatown

Romney - 50% Obama - 46%


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LANDSLIDE COMING