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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2014, 04:01:33 PM
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Fuck...
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80 inch waist and bullshit "training articles" of peace
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I read on T-mag that he "accidentally" got in show shape just using Biotest supps. True story.
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Fuck...
This is the exact type of physique you hate on. So are you saying, fuck this guy looks like shit with a blown out midsection.
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All low dosages there
250 mg test a wk, 200 mg masteron, and one dbol pill a day and BOOM
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grassfed beef, free range eggs, 1000 grams of carbs pre, peri and post workout of peace
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This is the exact type of physique you hate on. So are you saying, fuck this guy looks like shit with a blown out midsection.
Here's the difference, Van. 1. He's thick as fuck 2. He TRAINS and knows how to train. He trains hard, he trains heavy. Something you don't see often.
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Here's the difference, Van. 1. He's thick as fuck 2. He TRAINS and knows how to train. He trains hard, he trains heavy. Something you don't see often.
Is he the one that coached Bostin Lloyd?
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Here's the difference, Van. 1. He's thick as fuck 2. He TRAINS and knows how to train. He trains hard, he trains heavy. Something you don't see often.
U need to come to tx then , Steve Kuclo, Jonathan irrizarry , and a lot of top amatuers and pros train heavy and hard
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Here's the difference, Van. 1. He's thick as fuck 2. He TRAINS and knows how to train. He trains hard, he trains heavy. Something you don't see often.
That's easily done on drugs. I know, I know...What am I doing here if I don't approve of drug built physiques?
Easy. Making fun of 'em! ;D
Take it easy, fellow eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevile conservative! ;D ;D
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U need to come to tx then , Steve Kuclo, Jonathan irrizarry , and a lot of top amatuers and pros train heavy and hard
Hey, I'm a fan of the way Branch, JJ and Ronnie Coleman train.
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His midsection is fucked up due to several surgeries removing intestines. His abs are made of mesh (basically chicken wire).
Guys no joke.
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Here's the difference, Van. 1. He's thick as fuck 2. He TRAINS and knows how to train. He trains hard, he trains heavy. Something you don't see often.
From what I've read he's moved away from "heavy" training because it's too risky. So he tries to exhaust the muscles without going real heavy. Which is smart of course. Basically the opposite of another hard trainer, Branch Warren.
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That's easily done on drugs. I know, I know...What am I doing here if I don't approve of drug built physiques?
Easy. Making fun of 'em! ;D
Take it easy, fellow eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevile conservative! ;D ;D
True, but that kind density is where the training comes in.
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Believe it or not I've seen Johnny train quite a bit and his form isn't as bad as the videos show it. Maybe cause he's training alone and not with branch , but yeah he trains very intense , minimum rest , guy just loves to train
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From what I've read he's moved away from "heavy" training because it's too risky. So he tries to exhaust the muscles without going real heavy. Which is smart of course. Basically the opposite of another hard trainer, Branch Warren.
Trains with Dave Tate at Elitefts.
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Trains with Dave Tate at Elitefts.
Yeah I know. Uses cattle prods (pro tip).
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Yeah I know. Uses cattle prods (pro tip).
That is honestly fucking retarded.
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See? This is why I will never be jacked...I am unwilling to let people "activate" my lats with a cattle prod ::)
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What is this guy like 5'4?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=531577.0;attach=561943)
Is his head photoshopped to be 2x size? Why are his shoulders 15 inches wide? His pecs are tiny.
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Very smart guy...........been through hell physically, but persevered and knows a ton about training.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=531577.0;attach=561943)
Is his head photoshopped to be 2x size? Why are his shoulders 15 inches wide? His pecs are tiny.
Looks like a melting candle.
What is it that gives guys like him and Dusty Handjob this disgusting dog-chew-toy look?
Richard Ass-Berry in that video where he was training the Autistic Genova seems to have the final stage of this weird palumboism
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Low doses, free range animals, heavy training. Three things I'm going to start avoiding at all costs if that's what made him look this way.
No easy way to say it; he looks like creamed dog shit. Hope this helps.
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He must be Adam on a cycle. Where is his belly button?
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(http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/41520140846195.gif)
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(http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/41520140846195.gif)
lol ,,,seen this 3/4 threads now ,, :D
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"Its clobberin time" of peace.
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"Its clobberin time" of peace.
lol,,got it,,,
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lol,,got it,,,
:D ;D
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Yeah I know. Uses cattle prods (pro tip).
How the fuck does that help?
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Meadows is awesome. Brilliant when it comes to training. A lot of good nutrition info. I don't utiliZe it all but he has some interesting concepts.
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Meadows is awesome. Brilliant when it comes to training. A lot of good nutrition info. I don't utiliZe it all but he has some interesting concepts.
Moderate carbs, moderate fat is new or brilliant?
Pre-exhaust is new or brilliant?
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Moderate carbs, moderate fat is new or brilliant?
Pre-exhaust is new or brilliant?
No, it's the cattle prod.
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Moderate carbs, moderate fat is new or brilliant?
Pre-exhaust is new or brilliant?
Yes that's correct BBSScmegma.
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Yes that's correct BBSScmegma.
If I have it correct people have been training and eating like this for forty years!
Pre-exhaust and high volume training has been in style since the 70's or perhaps earlier. And only in the late 80's and 90's did people become fat phobic.
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If I have it correct people have been training and eating like this for forty years!
Pre-exhaust and high volume training has been in style since the 70's or perhaps earlier. And only in the late 80's and 90's did people become fat phobic.
How much can you even upright row bro ???
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How much can you even upright row bro ???
Not much considering I haven't done them since the late 90's.
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Not much considering I haven't done them since the late 90's.
Doesn't sound like you are a big fan of hypertrophy.
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Doesn't sound like you are a big fan of hypertrophy.
I'm a big fan. Natural trainer here for quite some time. Love the whole thing. Going to NY Pro next month, a staple of every spring for me.
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Yes that's correct BBSScmegma.
lol ;D
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a lot of ignorant ppl here hating on one of the best guys in the industry.
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typical 'getbig'.
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I'm a big fan. Natural trainer here for quite some time. Love the whole thing. Going to NY Pro next month, a staple of every spring for me.
i thought you said you believed in hypertrophy.
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typical 'getbig'.
not typical- people hate on your because your full of shit.
dont lump yourself in with 'knowledgeable guys who get hated on' cause in your case, your lies created the bed you lay in.
when you going to answer what the fuck you need 700 grams of carbs for, stud?
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a lot of ignorant ppl here hating on one of the best guys in the industry.
you are not (one) the best in the industry. Sorry
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I'm a big fan. Natural trainer here for quite some time. Love the whole thing. Going to NY Pro next month, a staple of every spring for me.
Relax pal you're giving me way too much info and this is only our first date.
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a lot of ignorant ppl here hating on one of the best guys in the industry.
Ok, but enough about yourself :D
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monkey see monkey do, people are already using cattle prods now in Ireland for training because John Meadows does it ::)
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i thought you said you believed in hypertrophy.
lĺl
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He's got that "old roider" disgusting look about him, just like Palumbo. And that destroyed look to the abs. What is the major factor leading to this result?
Got that "old poeple veins over old people thin skin". Truly disgusting, should have retired a long time ago.
(http://www.larrymccusker.com/pictures/03movie.gif)
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monkey see monkey do, people are already using cattle prods now in Ireland for training because John Meadows does it ::)
I train in Limerick Ronan and we have been getting hit with cattle prods for years....this guy must be a newbie
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I train in Limerick Ronan and we have been getting hit with cattle prods for years....this guy must be a newbie
love your avatar
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I don't care how much muscle he carries or how conditioned he is, he looks like shit. I would rather look like shizzo than like him. His face is always purplish-red, he looks like he was about to collapse but he still mumbles about "healthy" food and shit like that. Yeah, like "grass fed" shit is gonna help you when you are on 5 grams of gear, moron.
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I don't care how much muscle he carries or how conditioned he is, he looks like shit. I would rather look like shizzo than like him. His face is always purplish-red, he looks like he was about to collapse but he still mumbles about "healthy" food and shit like that. Yeah, like "grass fed" shit is gonna help you when you are on 5 grams of gear, moron.
This
I don't get it why guys like him act like health freaks, mumbling about "grass fed", "almond milk", "whole grain mega fibre" etc. Why bother with stuff like that when their livers/kidneys will collapse anyway? 5% extra sodium from shitty meat sources are the least of their health problems. ::)
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I don't care how much muscle he carries or how conditioned he is, he looks like shit. I would rather look like shizzo than like him. His face is always purplish-red, he looks like he was about to collapse but he still mumbles about "healthy" food and shit like that. Yeah, like "grass fed" shit is gonna help you when you are on 5 grams of gear, moron.
I am guessing quite a bit more than 5g...
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John Meadows. :D
This is the same guy that dropped bodyfat, gained muscle (11lbs of stage weight), gained strength, got into contest shape with an off season diet and could "probably squat 1000lbs".
All this by simply using a Bio-Test supplement. :o
http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/plazma
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-contest-shape
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-mag-10-experience
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John Meadows. :D
This is the same guy that dropped bodyfat, gained muscle (11lbs of stage weight), gained strength, got into contest shape with an off season diet and could "probably squat 1000lbs".
All this by simply using a Bio-Test supplement. :o
http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/plazma
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-contest-shape
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-mag-10-experience
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Yes! I rocked that Biotest store after reading that! I got $850 worth of awesome! A 30 day supply too!
edit: sadly, IRL, there once was a time that I bought Mag-10. Sob.
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John Meadows. :D
This is the same guy that dropped bodyfat, gained muscle (11lbs of stage weight), gained strength, got into contest shape with an off season diet and could "probably squat 1000lbs".
All this by simply using a Bio-Test supplement. :o
http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/plazma
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-contest-shape
http://www.t-nation.com/store/articles/john-meadows-mag-10-experience
::)
No bull! 100% hardcore truth.
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imagine combining cattleprods with occlusion training
:o
Causing a restricted blood flow to any body part run the risk of compartment syndrome IF that blood flow doesn't release. He's a smart guy, but if he's going to do research and apply it he has to look and the risk's vs. the rewards. I've dealt with this on several occasions with athletes.
If you DON'T know what compartment syndrome is....
Compartment syndrome
Last reviewed: August 11, 2012.
Compartment syndrome is a serious condition that involves increased pressure in a muscle compartment. It can lead to muscle and nerve damage and problems with blood flow.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors
Thick layers of tissue, called fascia, separate groups of muscles in the arms and legs from each other. Inside each layer of fascia is a confined space, called a compartment. The compartment includes the muscle tissue, nerves, and blood vessels. Fascia surrounds these structures, similar to the way in which insulation covers wires.
Fascia do not expand. Any swelling in a compartment will lead to increased pressure in that area, which will press on the muscles, blood vessels, and nerves. If this pressure is high enough, blood flow to the compartment will be blocked. This can lead to permanent injury to the muscle and nerves. If the pressure lasts long enough, the muscles may die and the arm or leg will not work any more. It may need to be amputated.
Swelling that leads to compartment syndrome occurs from trauma such as a car accident or crush injury, or surgery. Swelling can also be caused by complex fractures or soft tissue injuries due to trauma.
Long-term (chronic) compartment syndrome can be caused by repetitive activities, such as running. The pressure in a compartment only increases during that activity.
Compartment syndrome is most common in the lower leg and forearm, although it can also occur in the hand, foot, thigh, and upper arm.
Symptoms
Compartment syndrome causes severe pain that does not go away when you take pain medicine or raise the affected area. In more severe cases, symptoms may include:
•Decreased sensation
•Numbness and tingling
•Paleness of skin
•Severe pain that gets worse
•Weakness
Signs and tests
A physical exam will reveal:
•Pain when the area is squeezed
•Extreme pain when you move the affected area (for example, a person with compartment syndrome in the foot or lower leg will have severe pain when moving the toes up and down)
•Swelling in the area
To confirm the diagosis, the doctor or nurse may need to directly measure the pressure in the compartment. This is done using a needle attached to a pressure meter, which is placed into the body area. The test must be done during and after an activity that causes pain.
Treatment
Surgery is needed immediately. Delaying surgery can lead to permanent damage.
Long surgical cuts are made through the muscle tissue to relieve the pressure. The wounds can be left open (covered with a sterile dressing) and closed during a second surgery, usually 48 - 72 hours later.
Skin grafts may be needed to close the wound.
If a cast or bandage is causing the problem, the dressing should be loosened or cut down to relieve the pressure.
Expectations (prognosis)
With prompt diagnosis and treatment, the outlook is excellent for recovery of the muscles and nerves inside the compartment. However, the overall prognosis will be determined by the injury leading to the syndrome.
Permanent nerve injury and loss of muscle function can result if the diagnosis is delayed. This is more common when the injured person is unconscious or heavily sedated and cannot complain of pain. Permanent nerve injury can occur after 12 - 24 hours of compression.
Complications
Complications include permanent injury to nerves and muscles that can dramatically impair function. (See: Volkmann's ischemia)
In more severe cases, amputation may be required.
Calling your health care provider
Call your health care provider if you have had an injury and have severe swelling or pain that does not improve with pain medications.
Prevention
There is probably no way to prevent this condition; however, early diagnosis and treatment will help prevent many of the complications.
Persons with casts need to be made aware of the risk of swelling. They should see their health care provider or go to the emergency room if pain under the cast increases despite pain medicines and raising the area.
References
1.Twaddle BC, Amendola A. Compartment syndrome. In: Browner BD, Jupiter JB, Levine AM, Trafton PG, Krettek C, eds. Skeletal Trauma. 4th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Saunders Elsevier;2008:chap 13.
2.Geiderman JM, Katz D. General principles of orthopedic injuries. In: Marx J, ed. Rosen’s Emergency Medicine: Concepts and Clinical Practice. 7th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Mosby Elsevier; 2009:chap 46.
3.Marshall ST, Browner BD. Emergency care of musculoskeletal injuries. In: Townsend CM Jr, Beauchamp RD, Evers BM, Mattox KL,eds. Sabiston Textbook of Surgery. 19th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Saunders Elsevier; 2012:chap 20.
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Review Date: 8/11/2012.
Reviewed by: Linda J. Vorvick, MD, Medical Director and Director of Didactic Curriculum, MEDEX Northwest Division of Physician Assistant Studies, Department of Family Medicine, UW Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Washington. C. Benjamin Ma, MD, Assistant Professor, Chief, Sports Medicine and Shoulder Service, UCSF Department of Orthopaedic Surgery. Also reviewed by David Zieve, MD, MHA, Medical Director, A.D.A.M. Health Solutions, Ebix, Inc.
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I'm all for progressive methods, but BOT always scares me a bit in regards to being cautious of neurology.
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Coach, lots of places are extolling the virtues of occlusion training. I think it sounds retarded. Despite than compartment syndrome, do you have any use for it?
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Coach, lots of places are extolling the virtues of occlusion training. I think it sounds retarded. Despite than compartment syndrome, do you have any use for it?
None. As much as I hate to agree with the two idiots in the last video, they're right.
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Causing a restricted blood flow to any body part run the risk of compartment syndrome IF that blood flow doesn't release. He's a smart guy, but if he's going to do research and apply it he has to look and the risk's vs. the rewards. I've dealt with this on several occasions with athletes.
If you DON'T know what compartment syndrome is....
Compartment syndrome
Last reviewed: August 11, 2012.
Compartment syndrome is a serious condition that involves increased pressure in a muscle compartment. It can lead to muscle and nerve damage and problems with blood flow.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors
Thick layers of tissue, called fascia, separate groups of muscles in the arms and legs from each other. Inside each layer of fascia is a confined space, called a compartment. The compartment includes the muscle tissue, nerves, and blood vessels. Fascia surrounds these structures, similar to the way in which insulation covers wires.
Fascia do not expand. Any swelling in a compartment will lead to increased pressure in that area, which will press on the muscles, blood vessels, and nerves. If this pressure is high enough, blood flow to the compartment will be blocked. This can lead to permanent injury to the muscle and nerves. If the pressure lasts long enough, the muscles may die and the arm or leg will not work any more. It may need to be amputated.
Swelling that leads to compartment syndrome occurs from trauma such as a car accident or crush injury, or surgery. Swelling can also be caused by complex fractures or soft tissue injuries due to trauma.
Long-term (chronic) compartment syndrome can be caused by repetitive activities, such as running. The pressure in a compartment only increases during that activity.
Compartment syndrome is most common in the lower leg and forearm, although it can also occur in the hand, foot, thigh, and upper arm.
Symptoms
Compartment syndrome causes severe pain that does not go away when you take pain medicine or raise the affected area. In more severe cases, symptoms may include:
•Decreased sensation
•Numbness and tingling
•Paleness of skin
•Severe pain that gets worse
•Weakness
Signs and tests
A physical exam will reveal:
•Pain when the area is squeezed
•Extreme pain when you move the affected area (for example, a person with compartment syndrome in the foot or lower leg will have severe pain when moving the toes up and down)
•Swelling in the area
To confirm the diagosis, the doctor or nurse may need to directly measure the pressure in the compartment. This is done using a needle attached to a pressure meter, which is placed into the body area. The test must be done during and after an activity that causes pain.
Treatment
Surgery is needed immediately. Delaying surgery can lead to permanent damage.
Long surgical cuts are made through the muscle tissue to relieve the pressure. The wounds can be left open (covered with a sterile dressing) and closed during a second surgery, usually 48 - 72 hours later.
Skin grafts may be needed to close the wound.
If a cast or bandage is causing the problem, the dressing should be loosened or cut down to relieve the pressure.
Expectations (prognosis)
With prompt diagnosis and treatment, the outlook is excellent for recovery of the muscles and nerves inside the compartment. However, the overall prognosis will be determined by the injury leading to the syndrome.
Permanent nerve injury and loss of muscle function can result if the diagnosis is delayed. This is more common when the injured person is unconscious or heavily sedated and cannot complain of pain. Permanent nerve injury can occur after 12 - 24 hours of compression.
Complications
Complications include permanent injury to nerves and muscles that can dramatically impair function. (See: Volkmann's ischemia)
In more severe cases, amputation may be required.
Calling your health care provider
Call your health care provider if you have had an injury and have severe swelling or pain that does not improve with pain medications.
Prevention
There is probably no way to prevent this condition; however, early diagnosis and treatment will help prevent many of the complications.
Persons with casts need to be made aware of the risk of swelling. They should see their health care provider or go to the emergency room if pain under the cast increases despite pain medicines and raising the area.
References
1.Twaddle BC, Amendola A. Compartment syndrome. In: Browner BD, Jupiter JB, Levine AM, Trafton PG, Krettek C, eds. Skeletal Trauma. 4th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Saunders Elsevier;2008:chap 13.
2.Geiderman JM, Katz D. General principles of orthopedic injuries. In: Marx J, ed. Rosen’s Emergency Medicine: Concepts and Clinical Practice. 7th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Mosby Elsevier; 2009:chap 46.
3.Marshall ST, Browner BD. Emergency care of musculoskeletal injuries. In: Townsend CM Jr, Beauchamp RD, Evers BM, Mattox KL,eds. Sabiston Textbook of Surgery. 19th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Saunders Elsevier; 2012:chap 20.
4.
Review Date: 8/11/2012.
Reviewed by: Linda J. Vorvick, MD, Medical Director and Director of Didactic Curriculum, MEDEX Northwest Division of Physician Assistant Studies, Department of Family Medicine, UW Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Washington. C. Benjamin Ma, MD, Assistant Professor, Chief, Sports Medicine and Shoulder Service, UCSF Department of Orthopaedic Surgery. Also reviewed by David Zieve, MD, MHA, Medical Director, A.D.A.M. Health Solutions, Ebix, Inc.
Might want to read more on occlusion training before you pretend you understand it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22105051
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3209675/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927034
Waay too much research showing it works and is safe dude.
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Might want to read more on occlusion training before you pretend you understand it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22105051
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3209675/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927034
Waay too much research showing it works and is safe dude.
Thank's Layne for pointing that out. Are you doubting the compartment syndrome theory? Actually it's not even a theory. Best you research the soft-tissue damage that may occur because of restriction. I also want to point that I didn't say compartment syndrome WOULD happen, I stated the possibilities.
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Has anyone tried his inner workout drink?
(mountain dog diet as pdf (https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seanhyson.com%2Farticle%2Feat-fat-to-burn-fat-musclefitness-july-11.pdf&ei=hhFUU8CfGcPZPIfAgdgP&usg=AFQjCNHadKYB55DhlMOHms8EdM3ZnR6Phg&sig2=5-XJJ2Y7vF6dSvNlMtjB3Q))
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Might want to read more on occlusion training before you pretend you understand it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22105051
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3209675/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927034
Waay too much research showing it works and is safe dude.
I also want to point out that I have first hand experience with athletes with compartment syndrome. This conditioning is no joke. What is your first hand experience with CS?
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Has anyone tried his inner workout drink?
(mountain dog diet as pdf (https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seanhyson.com%2Farticle%2Feat-fat-to-burn-fat-musclefitness-july-11.pdf&ei=hhFUU8CfGcPZPIfAgdgP&usg=AFQjCNHadKYB55DhlMOHms8EdM3ZnR6Phg&sig2=5-XJJ2Y7vF6dSvNlMtjB3Q))
A "drink?" Looking at the ingredients, I would wager that it would have the consistency of spackle.
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A "drink?" Looking at the ingredients, I would wager that it would have the consistency of spackle.
With at least 500 cc of water, of course ;)
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Has anyone tried his inner workout drink?
(mountain dog diet as pdf (https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seanhyson.com%2Farticle%2Feat-fat-to-burn-fat-musclefitness-july-11.pdf&ei=hhFUU8CfGcPZPIfAgdgP&usg=AFQjCNHadKYB55DhlMOHms8EdM3ZnR6Phg&sig2=5-XJJ2Y7vF6dSvNlMtjB3Q))
Carbs, creatine, and amino acids? One of the great fitness minds of our time
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Carbs, creatine, and amino acids? One of the great fitness minds of our time
The secret sauce is getting hit by a taser while you're "drinking" it.
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Has anyone tried his inner workout drink?
(mountain dog diet as pdf (https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seanhyson.com%2Farticle%2Feat-fat-to-burn-fat-musclefitness-july-11.pdf&ei=hhFUU8CfGcPZPIfAgdgP&usg=AFQjCNHadKYB55DhlMOHms8EdM3ZnR6Phg&sig2=5-XJJ2Y7vF6dSvNlMtjB3Q))
That's not his intra workout drink.
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can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
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Causing a restricted blood flow to any body part run the risk of compartment syndrome IF that blood flow doesn't release. He's a smart guy, but if he's going to do research and apply it he has to look and the risk's vs. the rewards. I've dealt with this on several occasions with athletes.
Please give us your non google-ized reasoning for how occlusion training will cause compartment syndrome. You've had 'first hand experience' with it. Were they using occlusion training, or was there something else? If the latter (which is most likely) pray tell what was that cause?
Were you aware that AAS can cause compartment syndrome? Even if you planned on throwing acute compartment syndrome into the mix...that is caused most often with injuries (such as broken arm or leg) which not only will involve blood but also edema. Also, it takes a few hours to develop the acute compartment syndrome. There are many many, many more ailments that can cause compartment syndrome than someone performing some bicep curls. Wrapping someone's knees with wraps before a squat or deadlift is more likely to cause compartment syndrome due to the amount of compression of the wrap versus some BP cuff on the arms.
Were you aware of the promising effects of occlusion training when they were used with people that had inclusion body myositis? Did you also know that the vascular occlusion training has been shown to help with post surgical muscle maintenance?
Of course you did.
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can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
Because genetics are the main factor towards how one looks? Read what someone has to say with a critical mind, and apply the things you think might be of worth to yourself. If they help you, terrific...if not, move on.
I'm not on your level of experience or development, but I try to keep an open mind to just about everything I hear....lots of unlikely sources of information out there I've found
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Looks like a melting candle.
What is it that gives guys like him and Dusty Handjob this disgusting dog-chew-toy look?
Richard Ass-Berry in that video where he was training the Autistic Genova seems to have the final stage of this weird palumboism
;D
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Please give us your non google-ized reasoning for how occlusion training will cause compartment syndrome. You've had 'first hand experience' with it. Were they using occlusion training, or was there something else? If the latter (which is most likely) pray tell what was that cause?
Were you aware that AAS can cause compartment syndrome? Even if you planned on throwing acute compartment syndrome into the mix...that is caused most often with injuries (such as broken arm or leg) which not only will involve blood but also edema. Also, it takes a few hours to develop the acute compartment syndrome. There are many many, many more ailments that can cause compartment syndrome than someone performing some bicep curls. Wrapping someone's knees with wraps before a squat or deadlift is more likely to cause compartment syndrome due to the amount of compression of the wrap versus some BP cuff on the arms.
Were you aware of the promising effects of occlusion training when they were used with people that had inclusion body myositis? Did you also know that the vascular occlusion training has been shown to help with post surgical muscle maintenance?
Of course you did.
Please give us your one year expertise on training in "CrossFit". Good to know about the AAS contributing to compartment syndrome. But with what I've seen, this was NEVER the case. Unlike a Chiro that doesn't stay within his scope such as most ortho injuries, I refer it out and don't pretend I can fix it.
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That's not his intra workout drink.
With 'his' I mean the suggested wo drink, how hard is that to understand? ::)
can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
Because he isn't gifted with the best structure? (yes understatement)
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Because genetics are the main factor towards how one looks? Read what someone has to say with a critical mind, and apply the things you think might be of worth to yourself. If they help you, terrific...if not, move on.
I'm not on your level of experience or development, but I try to keep an open mind to just about everything I hear....lots of unlikely sources of information out there I've found
Good approach!
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Because genetics are the main factor towards how one looks? Read what someone has to say with a critical mind, and apply the things you think might be of worth to yourself. If they help you, terrific...if not, move on.
I'm not on your level of experience or development, but I try to keep an open mind to just about everything I hear....lots of unlikely sources of information out there I've found
what im getting at is that most people dont listen to their bodies. they forgo that, or even dont bother to learn how, in favour of studies and what your 'supposed' to do. the plug blindly along following what they have been told to do by those who 'know, and never achieve their best possible physique.
how the fuck can you explain the MILLIONS of guys who train in north america and only a VERY small percentage have great physiques, esp given all the KNOWLEDGE we have? dont throw genetics at this. thats the easy way out. gyms are FULL of guys who do what they are supposed to and look like shit. they train they way they are supposed to, eat the way they are supposed to, use anabolics- how many look amazing? a handful if that in every gym. even the juciers look unimpressive. chubby with a bit of tissue under it all. think this is just coincidence? no its genetics right? gimme a break. every guy who has a sub par physique cries 'i guess i just dont have the genetics'. i have SHIT genetics- thats why i stopped competing, apart from realising its a pretty gay endeavour. i have SHIT response. i started to change my entire body when i stopped doing what i was supposed to and just listened to my body. i eat once a day. train everything at a rate and pace that supposed to be 'catabolic'. i take in far less protein than i used to and use a quarter of the drugs and look better than i ever have.
everyone is being sold a lot of fucking bullshit, and dont question it tho, cuase the 'studies' say thats what we are supposed to do.
look at the physiques of the 70's. they didnt have the knowledge we have now. they trained instinctively. ate instinctively. and built the best physiques we have ever seen.
people need to forget abt the 'science', and learn what works for them.
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can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
He comes in big usually with excellent conditioning. Can't help genetics. What am I missing?
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what im getting at is that most people dont listen to their bodies. they forgo that, or even dont bother to learn how, in favour of studies and what your 'supposed' to do. the plug blindly along following what they have been told to do by those who 'know, and never achieve their best possible physique.
how the fuck can you explain the MILLIONS of guys who train in north america and only a VERY small percentage have great physiques, esp given all the KNOWLEDGE we have? dont throw genetics at this. thats the easy way out. gyms are FULL of guys who do what they are supposed to and look like shit. they train they way they are supposed to, eat the way they are supposed to, use anabolics- how many look amazing? a handful if that in every gym. even the juciers look unimpressive. chubby with a bit of tissue under it all. think this is just coincidence? no its genetics right? gimme a break. every guy who has a sub par physique cries 'i guess i just dont have the genetics'. i have SHIT genetics- thats why i stopped competing, apart from realising its a pretty gay endeavour. i have SHIT response. i started to change my entire body when i stopped doing what i was supposed to and just listened to my body. i eat once a day. train everything at a rate and pace that supposed to be 'catabolic'. i take in far less protein than i used to and use a quarter of the drugs and look better than i ever have.
everyone is being sold a lot of fucking bullshit, and dont question it tho, cuase the 'studies' say thats what we are supposed to do.
look at the physiques of the 70's. they didnt have the knowledge we have now. they trained instinctively. ate instinctively. and built the best physiques we have ever seen.
people need to forget abt the 'science', and learn what works for them.
Oddly enough, from what you say you do everything right according to the research and knowledge we have.
1. There is a shitton of research on fasting and how one could benefit from it. We can thank muslims for that :D
2. Research indicates that eating shittons of protein does NOTHING to the physique.
3. Overtraining is a bull and anyone knows that anyway, there is zero, zit, no evidence supporting that enhanced athlete could be "overtrained".
Science does work man, you've been mislead by bunch of liars and their gimmicks. I have seen numerous times a bodybuilding article citing "resarch" that if you read it had NOTHING to do with what was said in the article. Some people think that if they throw in bunch of random citations they can get away with any bullshit.
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Oddly enough, from what you say you do everything right according to the research and knowledge we have.
1. There is a shitton of research on fasting and how one could benefit from it. We can thank muslims for that :D
2. Research indicates that eating shittons of protein does NOTHING to the physique.
3. Overtraining is a bull and anyone knows that anyway, there is zero, zit, no evidence supporting that enhanced athlete could be "overtrained".
Science does work man, you've been mislead by bunch of liars and their gimmicks. I have seen numerous times a bodybuilding article citing "resarch" that if you read it had NOTHING to do with what was said in the article. Some people think that if they throw in bunch of random citations they can get away with any bullshit.
lol i havent been misled by anyone my friend.
if anything i crawled out of the bullshit everyone is swimming in, and am doing my own thing. think i read fucking 'studies' to figure this out? no i figured out over 20 years of trial and error.
and thats what im encouraging everyone else to do.
and as for the science you say that does work, that supports me, it only adds credence to my points. but yet despite all this being readily available nobody is doing it. we been fucking programmed by supplement ads and the magasines that sold us powders and dreams when we were kids.
thank god for the internet cause people are starting to find out, hey- we dont need that much protein, hey, we dont need to eat 6 times a day, hey, the anabolic window is bullshit. hey, i can train everything every 48 hours.
and yet when you speak up, people argue with you using studies.
lol fucking brainwashed lot everyone is.
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He comes in big usually with excellent conditioning. Can't help genetics. What am I missing?
we over feed our bodies.
we use training loads that we arent meant to handle.
we use drugs in amounts the body cant utilise properly given our mass.
but, the average guy, instead of sitting there going, hmm, you know this isnt right, i dont feel that what im doing is giving me the best results, maybe i should throttle it back a bit, instead hits the gas harder, trains harder, and eats more.
let me introduce you to john meadows.
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lol i havent been misled by anyone my friend.
if anything i crawled out of the bullshit everyone is swimming in, and am doing my own thing. think i read fucking 'studies' to figure this out? no i figured out over 20 years of trial and error.
and thats what im encouraging everyone else to do.
and as for the science you say that does work, that supports me, it only adds credence to my points. but yet despite all this being readily available nobody is doing it. we been fucking programmed by supplement ads and the magasines that sold us powders and dreams when we were kids.
thank god for the internet cause people are starting to find out, hey- we dont need that much protein, hey, we dont need to eat 6 times a day, hey, the anabolic window is bullshit. hey, i can train everything every 48 hours.
and yet when you speak up, people argue with you using studies.
lol fucking brainwashed lot everyone is.
^^THIS^^
Bro science over science when it comes to bodybuilding.
What no one is saying, and lots of others lately chiming in also, to dispell all the previous bullshit put out by people trying to brainwash folks just to make some coin off them.
Figure out your own body and don`t follow some mantra put out by fucks who just want quick and steady cash.
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we over feed our bodies.
we use training loads that we arent meant to handle.
we use drugs in amounts the body cant utilise properly given our mass.
but, the average guy, instead of sitting there going, hmm, you know this isnt right, i dont feel that what im doing is giving me the best results, maybe i should throttle it back a bit, instead hits the gas harder, trains harder, and eats more.
let me introduce you to john meadows.
I agree with all of this. Welcome to modern day bodybuilding.
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im passionate about this topic cause if i can make ONE person stop and say , 'why the fuck am i doing all this anyway?' and maybe look at a different approach, than thats my payoff.
i dont need to be right. everyone wants to be an expert online. everyone wants the be 'that guy'. i could give a fuck about being 'that guy'. somewhere somebody is reading this and thinming, fuck, ya, maybe what im doing really doesnt make a lot of sense. why am i eating if im not hungry? why am i not training more often? do i really need all this drugs, can i use less and get better results if i change something else im doing instead of just doing MORE?
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I agree with all of this. Welcome to modern day bodybuilding.
its a goddamn shame coach.
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Please give us your one year expertise on training in "CrossFit". Good to know about the AAS contributing to compartment syndrome. But with what I've seen, this was NEVER the case. Unlike a Chiro that doesn't stay within his scope such as most ortho injuries, I refer it out and don't pretend I can fix it.
Remember this question? Please give us your non google-ized reasoning for how occlusion training will cause compartment syndrome.
My one year expertise? Where have I EVER said I was an expert in that anyway? What does Crossfit have to do with it Joe? Nothing. You are reaching there because you have nothing better to say. (Reaching is something you are plenty used to, arent you.) You continue to be arrogant and pretentious. NEVER admitting when you are wrong.
Oh, and while you address that previous question, please tell me how do I not stay in the scope of my field Joe. PLEASE answer that. I BEG you. Where have I said I treated or didn't treat it. For your information, I can diagnose.....YOU CAN'T.
I gave you some questions and you avoided them like you usually do. You still do the same shit you always do. Some shit never changes. You still come across as this all knowing arrogant entity and never once can address things completely when challenged. Oh wait, if I recall correctly you will say you don't have time or that its just not worth it. Go back to beating your chest and adding years to that "50yrs plus practical experience" in lifting. ::)
I wasn't going to add this, but just to show you how little you know and are uneducated on the condition....I AM fully able to treat CHRONIC compartment syndrome. Have a great Easter day Joe...hopefully you got to have your pic taken on the Easter bunny's lap.
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^^THIS^^
Bro science over science when it comes to bodybuilding.
What no one is saying, and lots of others lately chiming in also, to dispell all the previous bullshit put out by people trying to brainwash folks just to make some coin off them.
Figure out your own body and don`t follow some mantra put out by fucks who just want quick and steady cash.
alllllll this! ^^^^
preach on brother.
dude the more people we can get preaching this, the better off bodybuilding will be cause at the end of the day, when the ball busting is done on here and the fun and games are over all of us are in the gym alone with our headphones on trying to better ourselves.
and that is what its all about.
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alllllll this! ^^^^
preach on brother.
dude the more people we can get preaching this, the better off bodybuilding will be cause at the end of the day, when the ball busting is done on here and the fun and games are over all of us are in the gym alone with our headphones on trying to better ourselves.
and that is what its all about.
Yes indeed!
Been saying it for quite a while now once I decided to step away from the dogma that was pounded into our heads for so many years,and made far better progress because of it.
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Oddly enough, from what you say you do everything right according to the research and knowledge we have.
1. There is a shitton of research on fasting and how one could benefit from it. We can thank muslims for that :D
2. Research indicates that eating shittons of protein does NOTHING to the physique.
3. Overtraining is a bull and anyone knows that anyway, there is zero, zit, no evidence supporting that enhanced athlete could be "overtrained".
Science does work man, you've been mislead by bunch of liars and their gimmicks. I have seen numerous times a bodybuilding article citing "resarch" that if you read it had NOTHING to do with what was said in the article. Some people think that if they throw in bunch of random citations they can get away with any bullshit.
I was going to make essentially this same post before I saw yours. What no-one does that he claims is contrary to scientific evidence actually has a considerable amount of scientific support. You can blame "Weider Principles" etc. for the nonsense, not science.
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I was going to make essentially this same post before I saw yours. What no-one does that he claims is contrary to scientific evidence actually had a considerable amount of scientific support. You can blame "Weider Principles" etc. for the nonsense, not science.
This is true for the most part.
Weider was/is synonomous with money!
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can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
Far too many drugs and far too much food,which resulted in him building far too much muscle........,ie.,his frame could not accomodate it in a aesthetically pleasing way.
John`s a good guy,and I`m not knocking him...........unfortunat ely,this look is what the judges demand in order to place. :(
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Far too many drugs and far too much food,which resulted in him building far too much muscle........,ie.,his frame could not accomodate it in a aesthetically pleasing way.
John`s a good guy,and I`m not knocking him...........unfortunat ely,this look is what the judges demand in order to place. :(
bang on.
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What is this guy like 5'4?
Depends on what shoes he's wearing. On the weekends, he usually breaks out the 3 inch heels made popular by Sly and Arnie.
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what im getting at is that most people dont listen to their bodies. they forgo that, or even dont bother to learn how, in favour of studies and what your 'supposed' to do. the plug blindly along following what they have been told to do by those who 'know, and never achieve their best possible physique.
how the fuck can you explain the MILLIONS of guys who train in north america and only a VERY small percentage have great physiques, esp given all the KNOWLEDGE we have? dont throw genetics at this. thats the easy way out. gyms are FULL of guys who do what they are supposed to and look like shit. they train they way they are supposed to, eat the way they are supposed to, use anabolics- how many look amazing? a handful if that in every gym. even the juciers look unimpressive. chubby with a bit of tissue under it all. think this is just coincidence? no its genetics right? gimme a break. every guy who has a sub par physique cries 'i guess i just dont have the genetics'. i have SHIT genetics- thats why i stopped competing, apart from realising its a pretty gay endeavour. i have SHIT response. i started to change my entire body when i stopped doing what i was supposed to and just listened to my body. i eat once a day. train everything at a rate and pace that supposed to be 'catabolic'. i take in far less protein than i used to and use a quarter of the drugs and look better than i ever have.
everyone is being sold a lot of fucking bullshit, and dont question it tho, cuase the 'studies' say thats what we are supposed to do.
look at the physiques of the 70's. they didnt have the knowledge we have now. they trained instinctively. ate instinctively. and built the best physiques we have ever seen.
people need to forget abt the 'science', and learn what works for them.
Well, objectively speaking, John Meadows is a pretty good bodybuilder. He comes on stage with a lot of well-conditioned muscle. So I think he must be doing something right, at least with the things he can control--his diet, training, and drugs.
From an aesthetics standpoint, sure he looks like shit. Why? Well, he's got a very narrow frame and he had a a few major surgeries in his abdomen, which is why his abs are all fucked up.....those things are out of his control. And I would personally attribute both of those factors to his genetics, which is why I brought it up.
I don't really think John Meadows could ever look better on stage, no matter what approach he took.
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Well, objectively speaking, John Meadows is a pretty good bodybuilder. He comes on stage with a lot of well-conditioned muscle. So I think he must be doing something right, at least with the things he can control--his diet, training, and drugs.
From an aesthetics standpoint, sure he looks like shit. Why? Well, he's got a very narrow frame and he had a a few major surgeries in his abdomen, which is why his abs are all fucked up.....those things are out of his control. And I would personally attribute both of those factors to his genetics, which is why I brought it up.
I don't really think John Meadows could ever look better on stage, no matter what approach he took.
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Does the best with the hand he was dealt. Some were dealt with a pair of aces and others are dealt with a pair of dueces.
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Compartment syndrome has many of the symptoms of type II diabetes...This walking melting candle can stick a cattle prod up his ass and it still isn't going to help him when his kidneys give out from all the sugar in his gas tank...
This guy's Doomsday clock is set for 3 minutes to midnight
(http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000/016/690/i02/doomsday-clock-110516.jpg?1305581278)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=531577.0;attach=561943;image)
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Well, objectively speaking, John Meadows is a pretty good bodybuilder. He comes on stage with a lot of well-conditioned muscle. So I think he must be doing something right, at least with the things he can control--his diet, training, and drugs.
From an aesthetics standpoint, sure he looks like shit. Why? Well, he's got a very narrow frame and he had a a few major surgeries in his abdomen, which is why his abs are all fucked up.....those things are out of his control. And I would personally attribute both of those factors to his genetics, which is why I brought it up.
I don't really think John Meadows could ever look better on stage, no matter what approach he took.
Good analysis.
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Well, objectively speaking, John Meadows is a pretty good bodybuilder. He comes on stage with a lot of well-conditioned muscle. So I think he must be doing something right, at least with the things he can control--his diet, training, and drugs.
From an aesthetics standpoint, sure he looks like shit. Why? Well, he's got a very narrow frame and he had a a few major surgeries in his abdomen, which is why his abs are all fucked up.....those things are out of his control. And I would personally attribute both of those factors to his genetics, which is why I brought it up.
I don't really think John Meadows could ever look better on stage, no matter what approach he took.
I agree with this as well. I like Meadows. His approach to BBIng is unique, but well thought out, and I have picked a few aspects of his approach that I utilize all the time now.
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meadows has done the best what his genetics have let him and i would bet he has learned most by trial and error and not just bycreading science reports like it sounds on one guy here
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My take on Joe Marino, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is that he was he never a "sciency"
guy it was all old-school bodybuilding wisdom. He is a bodybuilder through and through, he's no
science nerd, not a guy who ever read any kind of challenging books, training or otherwise. Now, he decided to become a recognized trainer so he needed to align himself with the top trainers in the industry. All these guys are big on science so he needs some of that angle as well. So he says V.M. Zatsiorsky's Science and Practice of Strength Training, A System of Multi-Year Training in Weightlifting by A.S. Medvedyev and Supertraining by Yuri Verkhoshansky are a great books (since guys like Louie Simmons etc say so)(LOL, look up these titles on the net, did Joe really read and digest these tomes?).:D But Joe really doesn't give a fuck about science, you can see it in any topic he discusses here, whether religion, climate change or whatever. So he's in a weird place. He will cherry pick scientific data when it suits him. I'd still like to hear how painkillers break down the CNS which he talked about earlier.
Oftentimes his convictions clash with the science and the opinion of guys he admires as trainers. Like with the insulin topic. Joe believes a modest shot of insulin will fuck up your "metabolic pathways"... he uses a scientific term but can't support the statement with science. Meadows is another guy who believes in ramping up insulin (though he claims he never uses insulin, but drinking a couple of hundred grams of carbs during training will jack up insulin into the stratosphere).
I think Meadows is bit on the pseudoscientific side of things with the grass-fed, organic stuff he preaches.
Personally I was always a big fan of Lyle McDonald, now here's a guy who can explain science to a non-academic such as myself. This guy has a very harsh style, he suffers no fools, completely uncompromising style. He is rarely wrong so he gets away with being being a complete asshole. :D
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Yeah, he does look like shit, you guys are right ::)
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Yeah, he does look like shit, you guys are right ::)
Each shoulder is twice the size of the corresponding pec. Odd.
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Yeah, he does look like shit, you guys are right ::)
HE looks wicked there,grainy/size ,face shows it'death'
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This guy eats grass fed beef that's right beside a leaking nuclear power plant
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This guy eats grass fed beef that's right beside a leaking nuclear power plant
:D :D :D
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My take on Joe Marino, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is that he was he never a "sciency"
guy it was all old-school bodybuilding wisdom. He is a bodybuilder through and through, he's no
science nerd, not a guy who ever read any kind of challenging books, training or otherwise. Now, he decided to become a recognized trainer so he needed to align himself with the top trainers in the industry. All these guys are big on science so he needs some of that angle as well. So he says V.M. Zatsiorsky's Science and Practice of Strength Training, A System of Multi-Year Training in Weightlifting by A.S. Medvedyev and Supertraining by Yuri Verkhoshansky are a great books (since guys like Louie Simmons etc say so)(LOL, look up these titles on the net, did Joe really read and digest these tomes?).:D But Joe really doesn't give a fuck about science, you can see it in any topic he discusses here, whether religion, climate change or whatever. So he's in a weird place. He will cherry pick scientific data when it suits him. I'd still like to hear how painkillers break down the CNS which he talked about earlier.
Oftentimes his convictions clash with the science and the opinion of guys he admires as trainers. Like with the insulin topic. Joe believes a modest shot of insulin will fuck up your "metabolic pathways"... he uses a scientific term but can't support the statement with science. Meadows is another guy who believes in ramping up insulin (though he claims he never uses insulin, but drinking a couple of hundred grams of carbs during training will jack up insulin into the stratosphere).
I think Meadows is bit on the pseudoscientific side of things with the grass-fed, organic stuff he preaches.
Personally I was always a big fan of Lyle McDonald, now here's a guy who can explain science to a non-academic such as myself. This guy has a very harsh style, he suffers no fools, completely uncompromising style. He is rarely wrong so he gets away with being being a complete asshole. :D
Man, take a day off from posting (I had a couple of posts early yesterday) and here's VanBilderass taking personal shots. So lets clear this up a little. Fuck yes I'm old school and seeing the bullshit that has transpired over the almost 40 years I've been involved in bodybuilding industry, I'm proud of it. That being said, if I had NOT decided to get involved with training athletes years ago I wouldn't be as educated about the different types training as I am now. BUT, not just the training but the physiology. I've ALWAYS read and kept up with the times despite my old school mentality and again, it's when I got involved with athletes is when the real science of training kicked in.
Just because I listed three books doesn't mean those are the only one's I've read, but am I going to take a book recommendation from a person that has over 45 years real training and is well read? Fuck yes I am, you'd have to be half retarded not to! You fall into the category of the guy's that put science before practical application without having enough training years to decided what works and what doesn't...it's not always the science that fit's best. There is more "research" being done with bodybuilding training now BECAUSE of the research being done from strength and conditioning with athletes. Remember that!!
When I make a statement regarding training in a bodybuilding sense, it's coming from first being a former bodybuilder that has years of actual training experience bodybuilding, powerlifting and being a former athlete then the research. I read about 1/2 to 1 hour a day on various research and more on the weekends.
Van, you're more of a drug dependent guy who builds training around drugs instead of the other way around. Almost every post you've made there has been a drug aspect of it and training a distant second.
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Well, objectively speaking, John Meadows is a pretty good bodybuilder. He comes on stage with a lot of well-conditioned muscle. So I think he must be doing something right, at least with the things he can control--his diet, training, and drugs.
From an aesthetics standpoint, sure he looks like shit. Why? Well, he's got a very narrow frame and he had a a few major surgeries in his abdomen, which is why his abs are all fucked up.....those things are out of his control. And I would personally attribute both of those factors to his genetics, which is why I brought it up.
I don't really think John Meadows could ever look better on stage, no matter what approach he took.
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Not everyone is ideally suited for every sport. Like most bodybuilders Meadows has a few decent poses, but he is not winning shows for a reason: he is basically a third or fourth tier bodybuilder. Not hating... it's just a fact. He is probably an excellent coach/mentor. Bah!
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Not everyone is ideally suited for every sport. Like most bodybuilders Meadows has a few decent poses, but he is not winning shows for a reason: he is basically a third or fourth tier bodybuilder. Not hating... it's just a fact. He is probably an excellent coach/mentor. Bah!
freak factor there yes.
strong/into training yes..
gym build sick/stage is what it is..
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Yeah, he does look like shit, you guys are right ::)
Believe it or not, a bodybuilder *may* look better under some lighting conditions than others :o
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I read about 1/2 to 1 hour a day on various research and more on the weekends.
Imagine if you swapped your getbig posting time and your time spent reading/researching! 1/2 to 1 hour a day posting and 6 hours reading and learning...you'd have even more knowledge to share. ;D
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I like JM. Intense in the gym and has good all round knowledge. I understand he was working with Antoine Vaillant for the 2013 NY pro where he placed poorly. This year AV is using someone else so not sure if anything can be read into that?
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Man, take a day off from posting (I had a couple of posts early yesterday) and here's VanBilderass taking personal shots. So lets clear this up a little. Fuck yes I'm old school and seeing the bullshit that has transpired over the almost 40 years I've been involved in bodybuilding industry, I'm proud of it. That being said, if I had NOT decided to get involved with training athletes years ago I wouldn't be as educated about the different types training as I am now. BUT, not just the training but the physiology. I've ALWAYS read and kept up with the times despite my old school mentality and again, it's when I got involved with athletes is when the real science of training kicked in.
Just because I listed three books doesn't mean those are the only one's I've read, but am I going to take a book recommendation from a person that has over 45 years real training and is well read? Fuck yes I am, you'd have to be half retarded not to! You fall into the category of the guy's that put science before practical application without having enough training years to decided what works and what doesn't...it's not always the science that fit's best. There is more "research" being done with bodybuilding training now BECAUSE of the research being done from strength and conditioning with athletes. Remember that!!
When I make a statement regarding training in a bodybuilding sense, it's coming from first being a former bodybuilder that has years of actual training experience bodybuilding, powerlifting and being a former athlete then the research. I read about 1/2 to 1 hour a day on various research and more on the weekends.
Van, you're more of a drug dependent guy who builds training around drugs instead of the other way around. Almost every post you've made there has been a drug aspect of it and training a distant second.
I actually have a lot of training questions and injury related questions I'd like to discuss (I have serious problems with constantly getting injured and I don't know what the cause is) but I've been disappointed when I've asked them because no one either has any advice or doesn't care about answering serious questions. On the drug side I have some questions too but I don't bother even asking because I know no one here has any answers. There is a dearth of real experts in that field.
If you really read those books you listed and more then I'm really surprised. Because, fuck me, I like science but I don't have the patience for reading a science based 600 page book by some Russian written in very dry language. You just don't come across like that type of guy. If you discuss for example climate change you don't talk about the science, it's more about liberals and Obama being the devil etc. If it's about insulin you just categorically say it's bad without explaining why and so on.:D
I haven't trained as long as you but I've been in the gym for 22-23 years which makes me a bit more than a beginner. Last 7 years I've been doing plenty of drugs but it was cyclical and very low dose before that, and 6 or 7 years of natural before the first tablet. Not like you... you took your first shot of Deca at like 14 years old, didn't you? Not much of a natural base there. :D
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Imagine if you swapped your getbig posting time and your time spent reading/researching! 1/2 to 1 hour a day posting and 6 hours reading and learning...you'd have even more knowledge to share. ;D
If I'm on here more than 15-20min throughout the day I'd be surprised. Admittedly, I'm on here sometime way more on the weekend.
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I actually have a lot of training questions and injury related questions I'd like to discuss (I have serious problems with constantly getting injured and I don't know what the cause is) but I've been disappointed when I've asked them because no one either has any advice or doesn't care about answering serious questions. On the drug side I have some questions too but I don't bother even asking because I know no one here has any answers. There is a dearth of real experts in that field.
If you really read those books you listed and more then I'm really surprised. Because, fuck me, I like science but I don't have the patience for reading a science based 600 page book by some Russian written in very dry language. You just don't come across like that type of guy. If you discuss for example climate change you don't talk about the science, it's more about liberals and Obama being the devil etc. If it's about insulin you just categorically say it's bad without explaining why and so on.:D
Since I have the attention span of a gnat, it takes me a long time to get through a book and I still have to read it or hear it over and over. Admittedly, I'm more of a visual learner but I learn. Like I've said many times on here, I just don't read, I go to seminars, clinics, summits from people who I respect. Last weekend I went to the USC coaches clinic to meet the new staff, listen to the new S&C's philosophy of training and team training, watch a practice not to see the play but rather how his strength principals are being applied to the field. Since a D1 coach is probably the best educated when it comes strength and has also had experience at the pro level, I'm more than likely going to listen to that person rather than someone who does just research. We have Kinese interns we get in here than can talk a good game but when it comes to applying what they learned to actual programming, they don't their ass from a hole in the ground.
I haven't trained as long as you but I've been in the gym for 22-23 years which makes me a bit more than a beginner. Last 7 years I've been doing plenty of drugs but it was cyclical and very low dose before that, and 6 or 7 years of natural before the first tablet. Not like you... you took your first shot of Deca at like 14 years old, didn't you? Not much of a natural base there. :D
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can i ask you all a serious question?
meadows is apparently 'the guy' when it comes to 'knowledge' of training and diet.
then WHY does he look like shit.
think about this. could it be because what you learn thru studies and the 'texts' dont necessarily apply in real life?
lots of smart guys out there. all look like shit.
think about it.
are you saying you look better? lol
the majority of the guys "who look like shit" in your opinion are guys who have to work hard and figure out how and why things work (training, diet, drugs).. they're not easy responders.
the guys who 'don't look like shit', guys like flex, Ronnie, dillet, cormier... fuck, 97% of any guy on a pro stage has great response to drugs and training so how the fuck would he know how to make changes in other ppls "programs" if he doesn't even understand how HE grows or gets into condition? everything works for them, so why bother figuring out how or why cycling carbs or a keto diet works? or the ratio of test vs. a 19nor or proper E2 levels, or eating to maximize the results from gh, or whatever?
ppl do what is fun and interesting to them. how many of the knowledgeable people in the industry have physiques that could take home a pro card? (3? Farrah? Meadows? Palumbo? milos? maybe starnes, who else?) where's Pat Arnold, lyle McDonald, bill Roberts, cahill, john oreagan, duchaine, chris aceto, chad nicholls, ect.... pro cards? or 'freaky physiques'? these are all dudes that worry about themselves and their livelihoods and couldn't give a shit about yours.
you post thread after thread and post after post to toot your own horn and compare yourself to people on the internet who really couldn't care less about you or your 205lb everyday test/tren physique.
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are you saying you look better? lol
the majority of the guys "who look like shit" in your opinion are guys who have to work hard and figure out how and why things work (training, diet, drugs).. they're not easy responders.
the guys who 'don't look like shit', guys like flex, Ronnie, dillet, cormier... fuck, 97% of any guy on a pro stage has great response to drugs and training so how the fuck would he know how to make changes in other ppls "programs" if he doesn't even understand how HE grows or gets into condition? everything works for them, so why bother figuring out how or why cycling carbs or a keto diet works? or the ratio of test vs. a 19nor or proper E2 levels, or eating to maximize the results from gh, or whatever?
ppl do what is fun and interesting to them. how many of the knowledgeable people in the industry have physiques that could take home a pro card? (3? Farrah? Meadows? Palumbo? milos? maybe starnes, who else?) where's Pat Arnold, lyle McDonald, bill Roberts, cahill, john oreagan, duchaine, chris aceto, chad nicholls, ect.... pro cards? or 'freaky physiques'? these are all dudes that worry about themselves and their livelihoods and couldn't give a shit about yours.
you post thread after thread and post after post to toot your own horn and compare yourself to people on the internet who really couldn't care less about you or your 205lb everyday test/tren physique.
ESFitness trying to justify his shitty physique in this thread. ;D
By the way, you would be less than 205 if you got in shape properly.
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ESFitness trying to justify his shitty physique in this thread. ;D
By the way, you would be less than 205 if you got in shape properly.
thanks' for the uneducated guesstimate.
speaking of shitty physiques, how's yours coming? with that 182ng/dl test level?
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thanks' for the uneducated guesstimate.
speaking of shitty physiques, how's yours coming? with that 182ng/dl test level?
Why dont you get shredded and post a pic, you can use it to inspire clients.
Oh, Im doing fine thanks, still at 220lbs and around 10%
I dont know where you got that figure from, what does it mean?
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are you saying you look better? lol
the majority of the guys "who look like shit" in your opinion are guys who have to work hard and figure out how and why things work (training, diet, drugs).. they're not easy responders.
the guys who 'don't look like shit', guys like flex, Ronnie, dillet, cormier... fuck, 97% of any guy on a pro stage has great response to drugs and training so how the fuck would he know how to make changes in other ppls "programs" if he doesn't even understand how HE grows or gets into condition? everything works for them, so why bother figuring out how or why cycling carbs or a keto diet works? or the ratio of test vs. a 19nor or proper E2 levels, or eating to maximize the results from gh, or whatever?
ppl do what is fun and interesting to them. how many of the knowledgeable people in the industry have physiques that could take home a pro card? (3? Farrah? Meadows? Palumbo? milos? maybe starnes, who else?) where's Pat Arnold, lyle McDonald, bill Roberts, cahill, john oreagan, duchaine, chris aceto, chad nicholls, ect.... pro cards? or 'freaky physiques'? these are all dudes that worry about themselves and their livelihoods and couldn't give a shit about yours.
you post thread after thread and post after post to toot your own horn and compare yourself to people on the internet who really couldn't care less about you or your 205lb everyday test/tren physique.
heres another 'comparison' for you dildo- I look better than you do. and you're on 6g of anabolics. lol in fact you couldn't carry my gym bag, skinnyfat.
look better than meadows? who the fuck would want to look like that? I'm sure he's a good guy but he looks horrible and unhealthy. hmmm wonder why.
haha toot my horn eh sparky? fuck that's priceless coming from the biggest bullshitter on this forum.
and i wasn't talking about the guys like ronnie and Cormier et al you fucking bozo I was talking about the guys in the 70's who built amazing physiques without all this great knowledge guys like you pretend to have.
I know this topic hits close to home- the charlatanism of nutrition and training- cause your 'livelihood' as a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people relies on making getting into shape as mysterious as possible. lol
heaven forbid people realise they can build amazing physiques not eating 5 times a day as you tell them, eating 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight as you tell them and the rest of your 'science' you endow them with.
your a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people. don't paint yourself to be anything else.
clown.
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and for all you idiots crying meadows got dealt a shit hand for 'genetics' - genetics didnt create that- over feeding, over juicing, over gh'ing and using training loads your body can't handle created that.
shove your genetics up your ass.
lol the fall back of everyone w a poor physique. oh it's my 'genetics'. gimme a fucking break.
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I know this topic hits close to home- the charlatanism of nutrition and training- cause your 'livelihood' as a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people relies on making getting into shape as mysterious as possible. lol
heaven forbid people realise they can build amazing physiques not eating 5 times a day as you tell them, eating 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight as you tell them and the rest of your 'science' you endow them with.
your a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people. don't paint yourself to be anything more.
That wants fucking framing for posterity.
;D
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heres another 'comparison' for you dildo- I look better than you do. and you're on 6g of anabolics. lol in fact you couldn't carry my gym bag, skinnyfat.
haha toot my horn eh sparky? fuck that's priceless coming from the biggest bullshitter on this forum.
and i wasn't talking about the guys like ronnie and Cormier et al you fucking bozo I was talking about the guys in the 70's who built amazing physiques without all this great knowledge guys like you pretend to have.
I know this topic hits close to home- the charlatanism of nutrition and training- cause your 'livelihood' as a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people relies on making getting into shape as mysterious as possible. lol
heaven forbid people realise they can build amazing physiques not eating 5 times a day as you tell them, eating 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight as you tell them and the rest of your 'science' you endow them with.
your a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people. don't paint yourself to be anything more.
and don't ever compare yourself to
didn't even bother reading past the first line.
you compare yourself to me (and everybody else who doesn't give two shits about your pathetic life. lol), and you say I'm on 6g's...
yet, time after time, your coke-addled brain can't seem to comprehend that none of the pics you and your fan-boys post were when I was even remotely near 6g.
so, lets compare some pics of an offseason kevin levrone or dave palumbo for you as well... at one point they were using 6g as well, right? and your claim is you look better than them as well, right?
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didn't even bother reading past the first line.
you compare yourself to me (and everybody else who doesn't give two shits about your pathetic life. lol), and you say I'm on 6g's...
yet, time after time, your coke-addled brain can't seem to comprehend that none of the pics you and your fan-boys post were when I was even remotely near 6g.
so, lets compare some pics of an offseason kevin levrone or dave palumbo for you as well... at one point they were using 6g as well, right? and your claim is you look better than them as well, right?
So own us all with your 6gms loaded physique then please.
Or fuck off with your bullshit for good.
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didn't even bother reading past the first line.
you compare yourself to me (and everybody else who doesn't give two shits about your pathetic life. lol), and you say I'm on 6g's...
yet, time after time, your coke-addled brain can't seem to comprehend that none of the pics you and your fan-boys post were when I was even remotely near 6g.
so, lets compare some pics of an offseason kevin levrone or dave palumbo for you as well... at one point they were using 6g as well, right? and your claim is you look better than them as well, right?
your the one attacking me w comparables. in defense I said I looked better than you. can you refute that? I'm waiting, mr 6g cycles / 700 grams carbs a day. lol see unlike you I can back up anything I lay claim to or say.
no. I'm saying I look better on one third what you say you use. YOU.
I'm trying to say, and have been pointing out for 2 weeks that your a bullshitting liar.
you bro. YOU. your a liar and a bullshitter.
pretty fucking bad when you gotta compare kevin levrone to an average gym rat - and ya bro im bery much an average gym rat- like me in order to absolve yourself of your 6g cycle claims.
hahaha are you fucking stupid?
and by the way, dlido YOU are making this about you and me. lol says I'm making comparables fuck your a goof.
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So own us all with your 6gms loaded physique then please.
Or fuck off with your bullshit for good.
difference between you and I is I don't view it as 'gaining' anything to 'own' anybody on an internet msg board.
I don't care about what you think, or abou timpressing you or any of your gimp friends.
50yr old men 'owning' people on the internet... is that 'cool' in England? you're an embarrassment.
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difference between you and I is I don't view it as 'gaining' anything to 'own' anybody on an internet msg board.
I don't care about what you think, or abou timpressing you or any of your gimp friends.
50yr old men 'owning' people on the internet... is that 'cool' in England? you're an embarrassment.
no it's not about owning anyone. I could care less to own a stooge like you. i get why you might feel like I have owned you since you got called to the carpet for your bullshit and lies.
not it's meerly abt exposing you for what you are. and preventing the spread of your stupidity further. there are kids who read this board who might think your advise to eat 700grams of carbs, use 6grams of anabolics A and 60 iu of insulin comes from someone that actually does it or looks the part, instead of the skinnyfat CrossFitter that you more closely resemble.
and ya, it's fun making you look stupid.
lots if guys on this board talking the talk but the walk is missing. I'm here to prevent that. if it wasn't you getting ground on for your lies I'd think you should be thanking me, pencil.
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no it's not about owning anyone. I could care less to own a stooge like you. i get why you might feel like I have owned you since you got called to the carpet for your bullshit and lies.
not it's meerly abt exposing you for what you are. and preventing the spread of your stupidity further. there are kids who read this board who might think your advise to eat 700grams of carbs, use 6grams of anabolics A and 60 iu of insulin comes from someone that actually does it or looks the part, instead of the skinnyfat CrossFitter that you more closely resemble.
and ya, it's fun making you look stupid.
lots if guys on this board talking the talk but the walk is missing. I'm here to prevent that. if it wasn't you getting ground on for your lies I'd think you should be thanking me, pencil.
haven't lied about anything, while you on the other hand, pick up bits and pieces of what I've used over the years and pic out pics of when I was down to 190-205, and say "this is what 6g's of gear and 60iu's of slin do?" type of childish shit... dude, you're a fucking clown.. a loser. 50yrs old trolling on the internet.
name 1 thing I've lied about... since you say I'm a liar pretty often, you shoud have a list of about 10 things.
bottom line is, you're a coward and a pussy. 100%.
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not to mention, you're in here talking shit about John Meadows who wipes the floor with you on any topic imaginable.
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haven't lied about anything, while you on the other hand, pick up bits and pieces of what I've used over the years and pic out pics of when I was down to 190-205, and say "this is what 6g's of gear and 60iu's of slin do?" type of childish shit... dude, you're a fucking clown.. a loser. 50yrs old trolling on the internet.
name 1 thing I've lied about... since you say I'm a liar pretty often, you shoud have a list of about 10 things.
bottom line is, you're a coward and a pussy. 100%.
there's a thread here dedicated to your lies actually. you even posted in it.
holy fuck I just realised something. you act like none of that ever happened. lol like NOBODY saw that. hahahaha
guess what, champ. it's a small community that post here, read by an even larger anonymous audience and they all saw it. so I don't think just pretending it didn't happen is going to help you out much here. lol
now I know I'm getting under your skin. when a guy calls you a 'coward and a pussy' online without knowing a thing about you it's grasping at straws. it's even funnier cause when I call you a liar and a bullshitter it's all true. :D
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not to mention, you're in here talking shit about John Meadows who wipes the floor with you on any topic imaginable.
so?! who cares?! hahaha oh no ESFPansy from the Internet thinks john meadows is smarter than I am hahaha holy fuck how am I going to sleep tonite lol
fuck your a speedbag.
dumber than a bag of rocks you are. good thing you babysit for a living cause your sure as fuck not smart enough to do much else champ.
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there's a thread here dedicated to your lies actually. you even posted in it.
holy fuck I just realised something. you act like none of that ever happened. lol like NOBODY saw that. hahahaha
guess what, champ. it's a small community that post here, read by an even larger anonymous audience and they all saw it. so I don't think just pretending it didn't happen is going to help you out much here. lol
now I know I'm getting under your skin. when a guy calls you a 'coward and a pussy' online without knowing a thing about you it's grasping at straws. it's even funnier cause when I call you a liar and a bullshitter it's all true. :D
it's obvious by how you 'behave' on here, thousands of miles away from anybody who can touch you.
like I said.. post your list of my 'lies'.
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and for all you idiots crying meadows got dealt a shit hand for 'genetics' - genetics didnt create that- over feeding, over juicing, over gh'ing and using training loads your body can't handle created that.
shove your genetics up your ass.
lol the fall back of everyone w a poor physique. oh it's my 'genetics'. gimme a fucking break.
Easy bro, I think we're all on the same side here ;D
I look at Meadows, and I see a guy who has--at the most fundamental level--lots of lean, dry muscle. It's not much to look at, but I guess his physique is what wins shows these days.
Assuming that maximum muscularity/conditioning is the intended result, what is wrong with his physique?
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Easy bro, I think we're all on the same side here ;D
I look at Meadows, and I see a guy who has--at the most fundamental level--lots of lean, dry muscle. It's not much to look at, but I guess his physique is what wins shows these days.
Assuming that maximum muscularity/conditioning is the intended result, what is wrong with his physique?
And the guy most definitely loves bodybuilding to come back from the near death shit he has come back from. Either that or he's got a few DA genes floating around in him.
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esfitness do you have any recent or past pics of u at your reported best?and why not post 1..
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esfitness do you have any recent or past pics of u at your reported best?and why not post 1..
Despite compiling thousands of posts on this forum, he doesn't care enough to post one ;D
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imagine combining cattleprods with occlusion training
:o
Layne Norton working out with Mr. Juice himself Aaron "i'm on every shit around" Singerman. And Layne is still telling everyone he is natural. What a moron. I have tons of respect vor Meadows but for this meathead claiming to be natural no way!
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esfitness do you have any recent or past pics of u at your reported best?and why not post 1..
he accused me of having silver hair. So I am requesting a pic of his hair to see if he has anything to brag about.
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he accused me of having silver hair. So I am requesting a pic of his hair to see if he has anything to brag about.
I thought you were died bro ???
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I thought you were died bro ???
Can you speak English.
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Can you speak English.
I are :D
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I are :D
Sorry I don't understand wanker language.
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Sorry I don't understand wanker language.
Jeez that's harsh - Just wondering where you went to....Thought you might have been dead
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there's a thread here dedicated to your lies actually. you even posted in it.
holy fuck I just realised something. you act like none of that ever happened. lol like NOBODY saw that. hahahaha
guess what, champ. it's a small community that post here, read by an even larger anonymous audience and they all saw it. so I don't think just pretending it didn't happen is going to help you out much here. lol
now I know I'm getting under your skin. when a guy calls you a 'coward and a pussy' online without knowing a thing about you it's grasping at straws. it's even funnier cause when I call you a liar and a bullshitter it's all true. :D
that thread was good bread.
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Fuck...
I've always liked Meadows articles on TNation
The dude just seems to be thinking all the time about new ways of doing stuff and I tend to like anyone who is aware, thinking, focused
I actually like that site for a lot of reasons
I don't take everything that is posted as sacrosanct (hopefully that is a given for anything)
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Jeez that's harsh - Just wondering where you went to....Thought you might have been dead
I was taking a much needed break.
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I thought you were died bro ???
:)
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:)
Like I am a bro. :-\
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Like I am a bro. :-\
C'mon, booty. The man put some effort into that. It was witty.
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C'mon, booty. The man put some effort into that. It was witty.
No it was retarded.
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No it was retarded.
Eh. Agree to disagree then.
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somebody is in a mood ::)
womans wrath etc
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looks like a bad dwarf version of Luke Woods with far less muscle
ssame terrible blocky shape though
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somebody is in a mood ::)
womans wrath etc
Hey I can't always be rainbows and sunshine. It's my sarcastic aussie sense of humour actually.
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I thought you were died bro ???
lĺl i think it went over hair and she didnt get it
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not to mention, you're in here talking shit about John Meadows who wipes the floor with you on any topic imaginable.
What’s so special about Meadows that makes him above criticism?! ???
From what I've read from him, he's just a juiced to the gills manlet who also makes lots of bullshit claims in order to hawk crappy over-priced supplements to naive teenagers. :D
At least no one keeps it real.
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What’s so special about Meadows that makes him above criticism?! ???
From what I've read from him, he's just a juiced to the gills manlet who also makes lots of bullshit claims in order to hawk crappy over-priced supplements to naive teenagers. :D
At least no one keeps it real.
"From what you've read about him."
This is the problem bro. Watch some of his vids, read some articles. Dude is smart. Don't base your opinion off of what getbig bodybuilding analysts think lol.
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"From what you've read about him."
This is the problem bro. Watch some of his vids, read some articles. Dude is smart. Don't base your opinion off of what getbig bodybuilding analysts think lol.
Its mainly articles I've read on T-Nation bro. He reminds me a bit like Poliquin, a knowledagble guy but you need to sift through plenty of horseshit in order to find any of his decent stuff. :D
"I'd drive to Westside Barbell and do a leg workout over there; squats for example," remembers John. "We'd do 8 sets of squats... you know, dynamic work and so forth. Then I would get in my car and drive as fast as I could to World Gym and literally run in the door, load up the leg press, and try to get my legs as pumped as I could."
John couldn't support what he was doing with any science; he only knew that it was making him bigger and stronger. As the months and years went on, he began experimenting with things like explosive accommodating resistance, i.e., band and chain work, but still the pump remained at the forefront of his training.
Not a big fan of articles that turn training into some highly complex science or ones that make outlandish claims. Most of the time its done to help sell some BS supplement and this isnt an exception.
Puzzled, John pulls out the skin fold calipers and checks his subscap site, which is traditionally for him his fattest area. He likes to make sure it reads no more than 14 or 15 millimeters because that lets him know he's cruising at about 8 or 9 percent body fat. About three weeks earlier it was 14, but this time it reads 10, which is equivalent to about 5 or 6 percent body fat, and his weight hadn't changed a lick.
"It was so amazing and I thought, 'You know what?' This is pretty easy. I hadn't wanted to compete this year because of the stress of dealing with everything involved with a contest. Competing can be a miserable experience and it's tough on everybody. You're completely fatigued and sometimes you're just miserable. But now I'm thinking, 'Wow, I could compete and I can still have a functional family. I can still live life. I can still be happy. We can still go out to eat. This is really cool. All I have to do is follow the Plazma™ protocol and go to the gym and train my ass off, which I love to do. That's it. And to think, I'd pretty much gotten in shape by accident."
Meadows may have some good articles and videos but its hard to take someone seriously if its clear that they have an agenda. In Meadows' case, pimping Bio-Test products. :D
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Its mainly articles I've read on T-Nation bro. He reminds me a bit like Poliquin, a knowledagble guy but you need to sift through plenty of horseshit in order to find any of his decent stuff. :D
Not a big fan of articles that turn training into some highly complex science or ones that make outlandish claims. Most of the time its done to help sell some BS supplement and this isnt an exception.
Meadows may have some good articles and videos but its hard to take someone seriously if its clear that they have an agenda. In Meadows' case, pimping Bio-Test products. :D
I basically ignore all the claims on that site about their supplements.
Since they provide some good (or at least interesting info) and from a wide variety of authors for free I just assume that having to read the hyperbole about their supps is a small price to pay. Anyway, it's pretty much standard operating procedure for this industry for the last 60 years (probably more)
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Smart and methodological person.
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Smart and methodological person.
HE'S a thick dude man,,he looks younger in this video ,how old is he?
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HE'S a thick dude man,,he looks younger in this video ,how old is he?
He was born in '72, but the vid is from last year, so prob around 41 here.
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he's a genius,same level as the mensa bob
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he's a genius,same level as the mensa bob
can i get a amen to that :D
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he's a genius,same level as the mensa bob
Mensa-like blasphemy!
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Matt Kroc is on the Mountain Dog Diet...
(http://img.bodybuilder.ir/images/15986636377036777138.jpg)
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No it was retarded.
;D
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Am I the only one to
watch this vid notice Meadows' purple head?
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didn't even bother reading past the first line.
you compare yourself to me (and everybody else who doesn't give two shits about your pathetic life. lol), and you say I'm on 6g's...
yet, time after time, your coke-addled brain can't seem to comprehend that none of the pics you and your fan-boys post were when I was even remotely near 6g.
so, lets compare some pics of an offseason kevin levrone or dave palumbo for you as well... at one point they were using 6g as well, right? and your claim is you look better than them as well, right?
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are you saying you look better? lol
the majority of the guys "who look like shit" in your opinion are guys who have to work hard and figure out how and why things work (training, diet, drugs).. they're not easy responders.
the guys who 'don't look like shit', guys like flex, Ronnie, dillet, cormier... fuck, 97% of any guy on a pro stage has great response to drugs and training so how the fuck would he know how to make changes in other ppls "programs" if he doesn't even understand how HE grows or gets into condition? everything works for them, so why bother figuring out how or why cycling carbs or a keto diet works? or the ratio of test vs. a 19nor or proper E2 levels, or eating to maximize the results from gh, or whatever?
ppl do what is fun and interesting to them. how many of the knowledgeable people in the industry have physiques that could take home a pro card? (3? Farrah? Meadows? Palumbo? milos? maybe starnes, who else?) where's Pat Arnold, lyle McDonald, bill Roberts, cahill, john oreagan, duchaine, chris aceto, chad nicholls, ect.... pro cards? or 'freaky physiques'? these are all dudes that worry about themselves and their livelihoods and couldn't give a shit about yours.
you post thread after thread and post after post to toot your own horn and compare yourself to people on the internet who really couldn't care less about you or your 205lb everyday test/tren physique.
ESFitness got some fucking nerve to even respond to this matter. There should be a licensing for fucking idiots in the Fitness/BB-world to NOT give any advice ,whatsoever! You should legally, not fake or stolen, get the first one! What a fucking delusional Impasil!
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heres another 'comparison' for you dildo- I look better than you do. and you're on 6g of anabolics. lol in fact you couldn't carry my gym bag, skinnyfat.
look better than meadows? who the fuck would want to look like that? I'm sure he's a good guy but he looks horrible and unhealthy. hmmm wonder why.
haha toot my horn eh sparky? fuck that's priceless coming from the biggest bullshitter on this forum.
and i wasn't talking about the guys like ronnie and Cormier et al you fucking bozo I was talking about the guys in the 70's who built amazing physiques without all this great knowledge guys like you pretend to have.
I know this topic hits close to home- the charlatanism of nutrition and training- cause your 'livelihood' as a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people relies on making getting into shape as mysterious as possible. lol
heaven forbid people realise they can build amazing physiques not eating 5 times a day as you tell them, eating 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight as you tell them and the rest of your 'science' you endow them with.
your a babysitter for lazy unmotivated people. don't paint yourself to be anything else.
clown.
The truth always hurts the most!! I hope ESFuckness gets at least something out of this. This is the time to admit your wrongs. If you are man enough.
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Matt Kroc is on the Mountain Dog Diet...
(http://img.bodybuilder.ir/images/15986636377036777138.jpg)
amongst other things.