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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18825 on: September 30, 2019, 12:33:41 PM »
85 kilos
187 pounds

correct.. Steve Jones from Australia.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18826 on: September 30, 2019, 01:35:21 PM »
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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18827 on: September 30, 2019, 02:45:07 PM »
Perhaps the undergound labs use cruder techniques of manufacture compared to pharmaceutical companies. It might be the case that underground labs ,while producing drugs that contain the active ingredient,  often don't take the time and expense to remove undesirable or potentially harmful contaminants, impurities or by-products.


For instance, here is in an extract from CIBA's patent for an improvement the manufactue of  1-dehydro-17 oz-methyl-testosterone (dianabol) authored by Alfred Hunger and John Ziegler, from 1959.
The authors talk the presence of selenium impurities in the standard manufacture of the drug,highly undesirable in a pharmaceutical steroid, and how they have created a more efficient method, than the previous ones, for removing it.


"It has been found that 17a-methyl-testosterone can be converted in high yield to 1-dehydro-17 oz-methyl-testosterone, a highly active anabolic agent known under the generic name "methandrostenolone,'(dianabol) by treating the former with selenium oxide (or selenious acid) in the presence of a solvent or solvent mixture, such as, for example, a tertiary lower alkanol, e.g. tertiary amyl alcohol and the like, a lower alkane carboxylic acid, e.g. acetic acid and the like, or any other suitable solvent. Despite all the advantages of the dehydrogenation method of 17a methyl-testosterone with selenium oxide (or selenious acid), the residual amounts of selenium, particularly of organically bound selenium, contaminating the resulting crude 1-dehydro-17 Cz-methyl testosterone, represent a serious drawback of this dehydrogenation method.

In view of its use as a therapeutical agent, the final product has to be virtually free from impurities, such as organically bound selenium, in order to comply with the required degree of purity. Although a major part of the selenium impurities in the crude product may be removed, for example, by filtration, adsorption and elution, recrystallization methods and the like, a certain amount of these undesired by-products still remain as contaminants and cannot be eliminated by the above-mentioned conventional methods. This amount is invariably in excess of the quantity of selenium tolerated in pharmaceutical com positions by health authorities.

We have now found a simple and economical process for the removal of selenium impurities contaminating 1 dehydro-17 oz-methyl-testosterone obtained by dehydrogenating 17c-methyl-testosterone with selenium oxide or selenious acid, which comprises treating the crude 1 dehydro-17 cc-methyl-testosterone with hydrogen peroxide, separating the resulting acidic fraction from the neutral fraction, treating the neutral fraction with an adsorbent, and recovering the purified 1-dehydro-17a-methyl-testosterone. This procedure yields the desired 1-dehydro-17 oz methyl-testosterone virtually free from contaminating selenium impurities.

Surprisingly, the double bonds in the A-ring and/or the substituents attached to the 17-position of the 1-dehydro-17 oz-methyl-testosterone are not affected by the treatment with hydrogen peroxide, which is a strong oxidizing reagent; no degradation products are observed and the yields of pure material are excellent.

The crude 1-dehydro-17c-methyl-testosterone, which is obtained from the dehydrogenation of 17a-methyl-testosterone and is used as the starting material in the process of this invention, contains from about 1,000 to about 15,000 parts per million of organically bound selenium. Although a portion of this impurity may be removed by conventional methods, such as filtration of a solution of the crude product, adsorption on an adsorbent and subsequent elution, recrystallization and the like, such purification steps are not necessary prior to the process of the invention, and the crude material obtained from the de hydrogenation procedure can be used directly in the first step of the procedure of this invention."


https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/40/23/6a/b6cb062373bd95/US3048603.pdf


Excellent post.

Quality of Drug & Manufacture isn’t the same
Affecting its potency & effectiveness.

Same for the Competitors They maybe slightly bigger
Only their contest ready quality is lacking - if they were to achieve
The conditioning of the 80’s & 90’s - They’ed be Pushed to be as Big
As Some of those Competing then.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18828 on: September 30, 2019, 02:46:25 PM »
:)

Like him or not as a person
No denying He Had A Great Physique

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18829 on: September 30, 2019, 03:08:01 PM »
HAZ, Based on common knowledge ... 85K equals 187.39292 Pounds.

I THINK!!

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18830 on: September 30, 2019, 03:10:54 PM »
HAZ, Based on common knowledge ... 85K equals 187.39292 Pounds.

I THINK!!

i thought that, but can't believe a guy six feet can be that large
at only 187 lbs.

i was 5'9 235 and didn't look as big.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18831 on: September 30, 2019, 03:10:59 PM »
HAZ, Based on common knowledge ... 85K equals 187.39292 Pounds.

I THINK!!

Correct

Here in the U.K.
I’m old enough to Know
LBS / Stones & Now kilograms thanks to the damn EU.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18832 on: September 30, 2019, 03:12:00 PM »
i thought that, but can't believe a guy six feet can be that large
at only 187 lbs.

i was 5'9 235 and didn't look as big.

Nonsense- You looked Great
Don’t do yourself down.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18833 on: September 30, 2019, 03:13:32 PM »
Like him or not as a person
No denying He Had A Great Physique

Absolutely

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18834 on: September 30, 2019, 03:24:49 PM »
i thought that, but can't believe a guy six feet can be that large
at only 187 lbs.

i was 5'9 235 and didn't look as big.

illusion



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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18835 on: September 30, 2019, 04:22:43 PM »
context dear boy...

In what context does the statement "steroids have nothing to do with size" apply?

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18836 on: September 30, 2019, 04:22:48 PM »
Absolutely

Wheeler and Levrone really made things difficult for Shawn. They had good shape... and superior width. They were taller too, so they stood out more.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18837 on: October 01, 2019, 03:37:11 AM »
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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18838 on: October 01, 2019, 03:42:49 AM »
In what context does the statement "steroids have nothing to do with size" apply?

todays size.....ie the reason guys are so much bigger today has nothing to do with the steroids they take, they take the same as people did years ago, the difference is the GH and insulin.

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18839 on: October 01, 2019, 08:33:25 PM »
todays size.....ie the reason guys are so much bigger today has nothing to do with the steroids they take, they take the same as people did years ago, the difference is the GH and insulin.

plus most guys become fat cows int he off season too. back in the day - guys didnt get massive so they maintained a lean build and years and years being lean leads to better quality muscle/compound effect

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18840 on: October 01, 2019, 09:47:19 PM »
todays size.....ie the reason guys are so much bigger today has nothing to do with the steroids they take, they take the same as people did years ago, the difference is the GH and insulin.

I disagree. Not every State level bber are taking gh and insulin. GH is not cheap and many simply cannot afford it. This I know for a fact because they complain that they wish they had the funds to make gh worth while (at least 5-6 ius for someone in their 20s). Yet they are bigger and even more ripped than the bbers of the 70s and 80. That's because they are simply taking much more gear than those from previous generations.

I'm almost 60 years old and worked in a hard core bbing gym filled with competitors from various levels during the 80s and saw the progression over the decades. Dr. Walzak would start you on 200mg deca every two weeks and one dbol (5mg) quickly going up to 3 tabs (15mg). No one seemed to use Test.

The serious ones who competed supplemented with Mexican gear and would use 200mg/week of Deca and 5 tabs of dbol/day (25mg). You were considered pushing it if you went up to 400mg Deca. I remember the first time rumors were circulating that some were taking 50mg of dbol a day. I remember one bber telling me "That's TEN fucking pills a day? A whole bottle is only going to last you TEN days. That's crazy!" Fast forward to the 90s and the standard for a bulking cycle was a gram of Test, 600mg/wk of Deca or EQ, 50mg dbol/wk or 50-100mg Drol per week. Contest prep included three 1.5ml amps of Parabolan per week at 75mg per amp, 225mg per week.

Nowadays things are measure not in mg but in grams. Grams of Test a week, Grams of Deca or EQ or both. Even a gram/wk of Tren.

If you have connections you can gear for cheap. But even with connections even Chinese gh starts to add up because there's no 2-3 ius a day in bbing. That would be a waste. Even at $200/kit you'll still be forking out at least $400/month just for gh. That's a lot for a kid in his twenties and he knows he can get a brand new car for less per month than what he would be paying for gh. Most realize that at their age they still have a lot of growing left by just upping the dirt cheap Test

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18841 on: October 02, 2019, 07:58:22 AM »
2019 Mr Olympia Classic Physique, 2nd place, Breon Ansley; it’s so cool when bodybuilders barbecue in their thongs:

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18842 on: October 02, 2019, 07:59:09 AM »
Big Ramy:

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18843 on: October 02, 2019, 08:01:12 AM »
2019 Mr Olympia 212, 2nd place, Derek Lunsford:

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18844 on: October 02, 2019, 10:37:28 AM »
2019 Mr Olympia 212, 2nd place, Derek Lunsford:

silhouette like john sherman

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18845 on: October 02, 2019, 11:48:53 AM »
silhouette like john sherman

Good call!

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18846 on: October 02, 2019, 12:53:10 PM »
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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18847 on: October 02, 2019, 01:20:12 PM »

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« Reply #18848 on: October 02, 2019, 02:25:04 PM »
A 16 or 17 year old Larry Scott. Think he shows potential?

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Re: Random Bodybuilding Pics
« Reply #18849 on: October 02, 2019, 02:30:22 PM »
Joe Means