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Fort Hood shooter had 177 unspent rounds.
San Antonio Express News ^ | 10/20/2010 | Scott Huddleston
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FORT HOOD — Military investigators said the gunman in the shooting rampage last Nov. 5 hadn't used even half of his ammunition.
The testimony this morning in the Article 32 hearing of Maj. Nidal Hasan revealed that the shooter had 177 unspent rounds, compared to the 146 discharged rounds recovered at the scene.
Those numbers suggest that the shocking incident, which left 13 dead and dozens more wounded, could have been much, much worse had it not been for the quick actions of two civilian police officers on the post who also testified today.
Officer Kimberly Munley, who arrived at the scene with police Sgt. Mark Todd right behind her, said she saw the gunman outside a building just north of the "medical SRP," or Building 42003, where the shooting began at the Solider Readiness Processing complex.
Munley said she couldn't fire her M-9 service pistol at first, because people were running behind the assailant.
"I didn't want to have any friendly fire," she testified. "So I could not get an accurate shot."
As the suspect went around the building, Munley went around the other side and exchanged gunfire with him. She said she fired at least six shots. Todd testified that he started to follow the gunman and then went the other direction as bystanders told him, "He's over there."
Munley received a superficial wound on her hand and was shot twice in the legs. Her gun malfunctioned, and the gunman kicked it out of her hand, she said.
As Munley tried to drag herself toward her weapon, the suspect then seemed to have problems with his gun, she said. Todd said he saw Munley lying on the ground, with the shooter about 20 feet away. He yelled at the man to drop his weapon.
When the suspect shot at him, Todd returned fire with five rounds, he said. The man slid down a telephone pole onto his back, and Todd rushed him, handcuffed him and removed his weapons and ammunition.
Duane Mitchell, special agent with the Army's Criminal Investigation Division, said authorities recovered five loose unused rounds and another 172 rounds in seven full or partly full magazines. The gunman used a 5.7-millimeter pistol with a laser sight that emitted a green beam for daylight use and red beam for darker lighting, he said.
Kelly Jameson, lead investigator in the case with Army CID, said 146 spent rounds and six empty magazines were recovered at the scene.
In earlier testimony late Tuesday, Sgt. 1st Class Maria Guerra, noncommissioned officer in charge of medical processing in the building, testified that the gunman deftly and efficiently changed magazines without hesitation, "like one motion."
Mitchell said receipts indicated Hasan had purchased "watch-type batteries" to power the laser sight just days before the shooting. Cells to power the red laser were purchased on Nov. 2, he said. The next day, Hasan went to a different store to buy stronger batteries needed for the green laser, Mitchell said.
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Hassan is a hero of the left.
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Bushs' fault. ::) ::)
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:D
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Lets' blame the Tea Party for this. They clearly are more a present danger.
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Lets' blame the Tea Party for this. They clearly are more a present danger.
Islam is a religion of peace. He was clearly just misunderstood. Perhaps his house was foreclosed on or something? And the dozens of people who heard him screaming, "Allah Akbar!" while unloading bullet after bullet into unarmed people are definitely lying.
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Islam is a religion of peace. He was clearly just misunderstood. Perhaps his house was foreclosed on or something? And the dozens of people who heard him screaming, "Allah Akbar!" while unloading bullet after bullet into unarmed people are definitely lying.
Along with the Times Square Bomber, underwear bomber, etc etc. ::) ::)
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Along with the Times Square Bomber, underwear bomber, etc etc. ::) ::)
The funny thing in all these cases is that every single judge has said something along of the lines of, "I don't know what brought you to do this" and every single Muslim terrorist has responded by lecturing said judge on the Koran and jihad. Dhimmi morons make me laugh.
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LOL @ army ordering its men to destroy the video footage of this attack.
you guys wanna cry about 'libs reaction' when something like that screams much bigger things.
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LOL @ army ordering its men to destroy the video footage of this attack.
you guys wanna cry about 'libs reaction' when something like that screams much bigger things.
Was Hassan a hologram? ::)
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LOL @ army ordering its men to destroy the video footage of this attack.
you guys wanna cry about 'libs reaction' when something like that screams much bigger things.
Maybe they just didn't want it showing up on live link, you know family members seeing loved ones shot
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LOL @ army ordering its men to destroy the video footage of this attack.
you guys wanna cry about 'libs reaction' when something like that screams much bigger things.
Maybe the army was embarassed at their panzy ass rules about not letting more people be armed and having this muslim savage walking about?
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I didn't know liveleak and image concerns came before evidence of a mass-murder.
I mean, if a McD employee videotapes a guy executing a dozen people in a McDonalds... and his manager has him delete it because "it makes our company look bad", that McMofo would be facing some serious charges, right?
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I didn't know liveleak and image concerns came before evidence of a mass-murder.
I mean, if a McD employee videotapes a guy executing a dozen people in a McDonalds... and his manager has him delete it because "it makes our company look bad", that McMofo would be facing some serious charges, right?
Why don't you enlighten us on why the tape was deleted then?
Please make sure to point out where holograms and the like come into play.
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I guess it just points to yall being okay with a govt employee ordering someone to destroy the ONLY VIDEOTAPED evidence of a major terrorist attack on our soil.
That's unusual to me.
Maybe yall can justify it with whatever reasons you see. But shouldn't that decision be made by someone up the chain a little? I mean - it's the smoking gun of the whole damn terror attack - and it's cool to just delete it?
WTF?
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Why don't you enlighten us on why the tape was deleted then?
Please make sure to point out where holograms and the like come into play.
Holograms? Nah - probably UFO's with the aid of CIA and black ops.
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I guess it just points to yall being okay with a govt employee ordering someone to destroy the ONLY VIDEOTAPED evidence of a major terrorist attack on our soil.
That's unusual to me.
Maybe yall can justify it with whatever reasons you see. But shouldn't that decision be made by someone up the chain a little? I mean - it's the smoking gun of the whole damn terror attack - and it's cool to just delete it?
WTF?
Smoking gun? The dozens of witnesses to it aren't credible now? Your CTs these days suck.
I could see Obama ordering it covered up. It's not like he hasn't spent the last 18 months placating Muslims and terrorists in particular.
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I guess it just points to yall being okay with a govt employee ordering someone to destroy the ONLY VIDEOTAPED evidence of a major terrorist attack on our soil.
That's unusual to me.
Maybe yall can justify it with whatever reasons you see. But shouldn't that decision be made by someone up the chain a little? I mean - it's the smoking gun of the whole damn terror attack - and it's cool to just delete it?
WTF?
They should not destroy anything. They should show it on TV day after day after fucking day and manybe people will start to understand the importance of carrying and having immediate access to a firearm considering the animals like Hassan that are in our midst.
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Why don't you enlighten us on why the tape was deleted then?
Please make sure to point out where holograms and the like come into play.
how the fck should I know? Maybe it was image. Maybe compassion for the families. But it's major evidence in a terror attack and subsequent prosecution. is it cool for companies to delete all the security cam footage of things now where 13 heroes were killed?
Shit, I'm not talking conspiracy - I'm talking major fvckup here. Hassan can claim anything - he had partners, he was forced, etc etc - and it's his word against a bunch of screaming scared ppl in a room. Recollections will be all over the place.
And his ass will end up getting life - not death penalty - cause this genius decided it was cool to destroy evidence?
Whatever. Laugh about CTs, holograms, whatever. There are lots of Qs on this one, and a supervisor saying "destroy the only evidence of a terror attack" is fishy to me.
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Smoking gun? The dozens of witnesses to it aren't credible now? Your CTs these days suck.
I could see Obama ordering it covered up. It's not like he hasn't spent the last 18 months placating Muslims and terrorists in particular.
Yes. Dozens of witnesses. Laying on the floor covering their faces, pissing themselves, bleeding, or running for a door.
Dontcha think videotape might be a TAD stronger evidence? Shit man.
And YES, it very well could be obama pacifying radical muslims - all the more reason to save the damn tape and take away any doubt.
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Yes. Dozens of witnesses. Laying on the floor covering their faces, pissing themselves, bleeding, or running for a door.
Dontcha think videotape might be a TAD stronger evidence? Shit man.
And YES, it very well could be obama pacifying radical muslims - all the more reason to save the damn tape and take away any doubt.
Lying on the floor covering their faces? How did this guy get shot then? Moron.
You have any proof that every single witness to this was lying on the floor and not able to see? Of course not.
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Yes. Dozens of witnesses. Laying on the floor covering their faces, pissing themselves, bleeding, or running for a door.
Dontcha think videotape might be a TAD stronger evidence? Shit man.
And YES, it very well could be obama pacifying radical muslims - all the more reason to save the damn tape and take away any doubt.
I prefer they run the video 10 nights in a row on every channel.
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Obama did it
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Obama did it
Probably wished Ayeres did. oh wait . . . .
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Lying on the floor covering their faces? How did this guy get shot then? Moron.
A lot of them were, dude. This guy got shot by 2 cops - 1 of whom sustained 2 or 3 wounds. So your testimony may come down to a wounded cop who doesn't remember shit, and another cop involved in an on-duty shooting.
if you're gonna go for the death penalty, you sure as shit want more evidence than that. Good lawyers can create doubt. if this twat walks because witnesses contradicts something, you'll bitch about muslims and obama - but not the army employee who ordered evidence guaranteeing an airtight death pentaly conviction to be destroyed.
What if he had killed everyone in the room, including the cop who took him down? No witnesses? That army guy didn't know what witnesses knew what - he just destroyed it.
What if there was a school shooting and the principal ordered all the videos to be destoryed? Holy mother of god, those family members would be outraged!!!
What if ... you NEVER knowingly destory evidence of a terrorist attack. Confiscate it like they did the 85 pentagon tapes on 911, deny they exist, that's fine. But DESTROY? WTF?
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A lot of them were, dude. This guy got shot by 2 cops - 1 of whom sustained 2 or 3 wounds. So your testimony may come down to a wounded cop who doesn't remember shit, and another cop involved in an on-duty shooting.
if you're gonna go for the death penalty, you sure as shit want more evidence than that. Good lawyers can create doubt. if this twat walks because witnesses contradicts something, you'll bitch about muslims and obama - but not the army employee who ordered evidence guaranteeing an airtight death pentaly conviction to be destroyed.
What if he had killed everyone in the room, including the cop who took him down? No witnesses? That army guy didn't know what witnesses knew what - he just destroyed it.
What if there was a school shooting and the principal ordered all the videos to be destoryed? Holy mother of god, those family members would be outraged!!!
What if ... you NEVER knowingly destory evidence of a terrorist attack. Confiscate it like they did the 85 pentagon tapes on 911, deny they exist, that's fine. But DESTROY? WTF?
So your entire argument is based around a bunch of hypothetical "what ifs"?
What if 85-foot tall reptilians parachuted out of the skies on flying tigers and laser beamed all the victims and then implanted the memories of a shooting in our brains and planted a shot up Hassan there to be the fall guy? That's as plausible as any of the shit you're rambling about right now.
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They should have put a bullet in his head on the spot and doused his corpse in pig blood and set it afire on national TV and sent copies across the middle east.
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So your entire argument is based around a bunch of hypothetical "what ifs"?
Yes.
And lawmakers have made it what, a class E felony to destroy evidence? 33 or the other lawyer here could answer better than me.
It's a crime. It's just like picking up spent brass or kicking the murder weapon into the sewer.
Why we're not saying "What in the hell were you thinking destroying evidence"--- that's sheep mentality. You hate obama, you hate muslims, that's fine. But if this was a white guy shooting up a mosque - I'd feel 100% the same way. You NEVER destroy evidence. Confiscate it, lock it up. Some d-bag on the ground has ZERO right to just make that decision to destroy evidence in a MFing terror attack.
The plausibility of any situation isn't the issue - he destroyed evidence of a terror attack. That's a felony. Not up for discussion.
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at the VERY least... what if hassan had another shooter partner who emptied a gun into the crowd, then ran away? There were reports of multiple shooters, and many thought the number of rounds fired - and unusal make of gun - indicated rifle rounds were used, and possibly a second shooter with a rifle.
you're okay with maybe some other muslim partner getting away because he wasn't spotted or those who saw him were killed?
Shit man - at the VERy least BF, you should support keeping evidence so that anyone who helped this shooter is caught.
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at the VERY least... what if hassan had another shooter partner who emptied a gun into the crowd, then ran away? There were reports of multiple shooters, and many thought the number of rounds fired - and unusal make of gun - indicated rifle rounds were used, and possibly a second shooter with a rifle.
you're okay with maybe some other muslim partner getting away because he wasn't spotted or those who saw him were killed?
Shit man - at the VERy least BF, you should support keeping evidence so that anyone who helped this shooter is caught.
No, I'm not OK with some other Muslim partner getting away with it. And of course I support keep evidence. However, I don't think them deleting it means this guy is innocent or didn't do it.
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No, I'm not OK with some other Muslim partner getting away with it. And of course I support keep evidence. However, I don't think them deleting it means this guy is innocent or didn't do it.
of course his ass did it. i'm not saying he didn't.
i'm saying he used an odd round simliar to a rifle round...
i'm saying multiple witnesses claimed second shooter with a rifle...
i'm saying he hit a shitload of people very fast, it was curious...
it's very possible, given a weird rifle-round handgun, witness accounts, and other things, that another shooter was involved and fled.
But we'll never know, cause dickhead was more concerned about liveleak, than about catching terrorists.
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of course his ass did it. i'm not saying he didn't.
i'm saying he used an odd round simliar to a rifle round...
i'm saying multiple witnesses claimed second shooter with a rifle...
i'm saying he hit a shitload of people very fast, it was curious...
it's very possible, given a weird rifle-round handgun, witness accounts, and other things, that another shooter was involved and fled.
But we'll never know, cause dickhead was more concerned about liveleak, than about catching terrorists.
uuuhhh, ok Columbo.
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uuuhhh, ok Columbo.
arent you a lawyer?
LOL... destroying the only videotaped evidence of a terror attack killing 13 soldiers = no biggie?
haha oh brother.
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arent you a lawyer?
LOL... destroying the only videotaped evidence of a terror attack killing 13 soldiers = no biggie?
haha oh brother.
they should not destroy anything. They should run it on TV 24/7 for 2 weeks straight.
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they should not destroy anything. They should run it on TV 24/7 for 2 weeks straight.
agreed.
You were pretty loud about this when it first happened. I thought the order to destroy vital evidence would be a red flag for you.
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agreed.
You were pretty loud about this when it first happened. I thought the order to destroy vital evidence would be a red flag for you.
I don't know the rules at Ft. Hood, but the bases I work on all have the same rule - no video cameras (even in cell phones) for any reason. In fact, you're not even supposed to have a cell phone that's capable of taking pictures.
It's very possible the officer was trying to keep the guy from getting in trouble. I'm not justifying or trying to balance the issue, just offering a possible theory.
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It's very possible the officer was trying to keep the guy from getting in trouble. I'm not justifying or trying to balance the issue, just offering a possible theory.
That is a possibility. But I'm sure prosecutors wouldn't have filed charges against someone who thought they about to die, hoping to film the events. I mean, kids can't use their cell phones in school - but when there's a shooting, they're not going to suspend the kid for calling 911.
At the VERY least, this trial should ask the supervisor why he ordered the erasing of vital evidence in a terror attack - while the bodies were still warm, correct? And we all know it probably won't be asked.
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That is a possibility. But I'm sure prosecutors wouldn't have filed charges against someone who thought they about to die, hoping to film the events. I mean, kids can't use their cell phones in school - but when there's a shooting, they're not going to suspend the kid for calling 911.
At the VERY least, this trial should ask the supervisor why he ordered the erasing of vital evidence in a terror attack - while the bodies were still warm, correct? And we all know it probably won't be asked.
No, I would say it probably has been asked and we're not privvy to the information.
I agree that ordering it erased was dumb, even if he did it to protect the soldier. I don't know why, I was just tossing a suggestion.
Maybe he was ordered to give the order? How deep does the rabbit hole go...? haha. It might come out, let's wait and see.
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Probably covering up incompetence and possible friendly fire?
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Probably covering up incompetence and possible friendly fire?
wow... so a supervisor on the scene that minute would be able to make such an ascertation and decide a coverup was in order. Sweet.
You okay with that, 33?
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Probably covering up incompetence and possible friendly fire?
Maybe, IDK. But I doubt a lawyer asked a question to a witness without already knowing the answer.
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wow... so a supervisor on the scene that minute would be able to make such an ascertation and decide a coverup was in order. Sweet.
You okay with that, 33?
Easy cowboy, no need to change the story to suit your own beliefs. All you know is the order came on the same day. Not that it happened "on the scene that minute". This is how stupidity begins to infest most CTs.
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good point
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Hassan is a hero of the left.
if you believe this you are truly a moron
you're just an asshole for even saying it
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if you believe this you are truly a moron
you're just an asshole for even saying it
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and what is that supposed to prove
I don't know who those people are and have no idea why you think they represent the left
do these guys represent the right?
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and what is that supposed to prove
I don't know who those people are and have no idea why you think they represent the left
do these guys represent the right?
Go read by Boxer thread and what she and the far left did with Code Pinko in Fallujah. The far left consists of traitors and vile enemies of this nation.
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Go read by Boxer thread and what she and the far left did with Code Pinko in Fallujah. The far left consists of traitors and vile enemies of this nation.
sounds just like the far right ....... last time I checked you were on the far right....
so that make you a traitor and a vile enemy of this nation
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sounds just like the far right ....... last time I checked you were on the far right....
so that make you a traitor and a vile enemy of this nation
Show me one example EVER of politicians on the right doing what Boxer and Waxman did with Code Pink in Fallujah
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Show me one example EVER of politicians on the right doing what Boxer and Waxman did with Code Pink in Fallujah
you're a traitor and a vile enemy of the nation
you're also very stupid
why would I waste my time trying to explain anything to you?
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you're a traitor and a vile enemy of the nation
you're also very stupid
why would I waste my time trying to expalin anything to you?
I'll take that as you have no example of anyone on the right doing what those two did.
BTW - I take you are voting for Boxer regardless of what she did correct?
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I'll take that as you have no example of anyone on the right doing what those two did.
BTW - I take you are voting for Boxer regardless of what she did correct?
why would I need an example
it's doesn't change the fact that you are the true traitor and vile enemy of this nation
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why would I need an example
it's doesn't change the fact that you are the true traitor and vile enemy of this nation
Why am I an enemy to this nation?
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Why am I an enemy to this nation?
god, are you really this stupid
I don't actually think you're an enemy to our nation (though I think some of your beliefs are bordering on it).
The only enemies of this nation are people like Hassan.
You have this weird need to demonize anyone who doesn't share your radical beliefs and all it does is make you like like (even more of) an idiot
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god, are you really this stupid
I don't actually think you're an enemy to our nation (though I think some of your beliefs are bordering on it).
The only enemies of this nation are people like Hassan.
You have this weird need to demonize anyone who doesn't share your radical beliefs and all it does is make you like like (even more of) an idiot
Straw - I demonize the far left because they make friends and allies with our sworn enemies.
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Straw - I demonize the far left because they make friends and allies with our sworn enemies.
that's bullshit
are you going to use the example of people providing humanitarian aide to civilians and twist that in your addled brain to = making friends and allies with our sworn enemies?
if so that's exactly the kind of nonsense "demonizing" that I'm refering too
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that's bullshit
are you going to use the example of people providing humanitarian aide to civilians and twist that in your addled brain to = making friends and allies with our sworn enemies?
if so that's exactly the kind of nonsense "demonizing" that I'm refering too
Right, insurgents are now civilians needing aide?
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Right, insurgents are now civilians needing aide?
somehow you can't make a distinction between civilians and insurgents
why is that?
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somehow you can't make a distinction between civilians and insurgents
why is that?
::) ::)
Are you really that stupid? Talk to anyone who has been over there. The insurgents use the civilian population to hide weapons, launch attacks, use civilians to carry messages and armanents, tell of hide outs and sniper locations, etc.
IT CALLED AIDING AND ABETTING THE ENEMY.
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Good grief! ...just when I was starting to grow fond of the little bugger, he says something so stupid it boggles the mind.
Honestly, sometimes the very thought that he actually has guns is enough to make a sane person pee their pants.
333386... did you ever drop acid?
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::) ::)
Are you really that stupid? Talk to anyone who has been over there. The insurgents use the civilian population to hide weapons, launch attacks, use civilians to carry messages and armanents, tell of hide outs and sniper locations, etc.
IT CALLED AIDING AND ABETTING THE ENEMY.
so the entire country of Iraq and all it's citizens are our sworn enemy?
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so the entire country of Iraq and all it's citizens are our sworn enemy?
No, but in Fallujah it was. The story I posted about dealt with Fallujah where the largest battle took place and we lost a lot of soldiers.
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No, but in Fallujah it was. The story I posted about dealt with Fallujah where the largest battle took place and we lost a lot of soldiers.
so everyone in Fallujah was an enemy combatant
didn't most of the inhabitants of Fallujah flee the city before the first battle (April 2004) and were only "allowed" to return after the second battle was over
didn't your fellow Americn citizens (the ones you call vile traitors) actually travel to Fallujah in LATE 2004, when the 200000+ displaced inhabitants were allowed to return?
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so everyone in Fallujah was an enemy combatant
didn't most of the inhabitants of Fallujah flee the city before the first battle (April 2004) and were only "allowed" to return after the second battle was over
didn't your fellow Americn citizens (the ones you call vile traitors) actually travel to Fallujah in LATE 2004, when the 200000+ displaced inhabitants were allowed to return?
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no answer to the timeline I laid out?
think about this for a moment
do you think the military is going to allow US Civilians to show up and offer aid and comfort to the enemy?
again, you'd rather ignore obvious facts so that you can live in your dream world were anyone who doesn't share your radical views is a vile enemy and a traitor
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Go read through my thread on this topic. They got the waiver letter from Boxer and Waxman.
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Go read through my thread on this topic. They got the waiver letter from Boxer and Waxman.
they provided humanitarian aid to civilian refugees who were allowed to return the city after the second battle.
learn some facts or at least try to use your brain for something other than being angry
The US military allowed civilians to return and tagged and tracked them like animals
So if our military controlled the city and the population how was it that they the woman of Code Pink provide aide to enemy combatants?
Isn't it fucking obvious that they would not and did not and you're just angry about something that simply never happened?
from Wiki:
In mid-December, residents were allowed to return after undergoing biometric identification, provided they wear their ID cards all the time. Reconstruction progressed slowly and mainly consisted of clearing rubble from heavily-damaged areas and reestablishing basic utilities. Only 10% of the pre-offensive inhabitants had returned as of mid-January, and only 30% as of the end of March 2005.[32]
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that's bullshit
are you going to use the example of people providing humanitarian aide to civilians and twist that in your addled brain to = making friends and allies with our sworn enemies?
if so that's exactly the kind of nonsense "demonizing" that I'm refering too
Humanitarian aid to civilians? LOL.
You think any of that $600k or the medical supplies and the like actually went to "the families"? I would all but guarantee the majority of that stuff ended up right in the hands of people actively killing American citizens. It's cool that pieces of shit like yourself justify that stuff, though. And one wonders why California is $23 billion in debt while its populace perpetuates the insanity. The fairy tale world you people live in is astounding.
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Humanitarian aid to civilians? LOL.
You think any of that $600k or the medical supplies and the like actually went to "the families"? I would all but guarantee the majority of that stuff ended up right in the hands of people actively killing American citizens. It's cool that pieces of shit like yourself justify that stuff, though. And one wonders why California is $23 billion in debt while its populace perpetuates the insanity. The fairy tale world you people live in is astounding.
if that's the case then you must also blame our military since they controlled the city and the popluation and clearly must have allowed the woman of code pink to do as you have suggested (or was it imagined)
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The aid may or may not have ended up in the wrong hands. The aid was given to Iraqi humanitarian workers on the Jordanian/Iraqi border. I know of no follow-up on where there those supplies went, or who they went to. It's hardly a stretch to think that it ended up in the wrong hands and I seriously doubt it went to the truly needy.
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The aid may or may not have ended up in the wrong hands. The aid was given to Iraqi humanitarian workers on the Jordanian/Iraqi border. I know of no follow-up on where there those supplies went, or who they went to. It's hardly a stretch to think that it ended up in the wrong hands and I seriously doubt it went to the truly needy.
great point. none of us knows where the $ went, and its not like any us govt official just handed it to terrorists.
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great point. none of us knows where the $ went, and its not like any us govt official just handed it to terrorists.
But a wink wink and nod nod either don't hurt right?
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And your statement on your first post on this thread is still a fucking ridiculous as ever
Calling Hassan a hero to the left is just sick. Statements like that are why I can't have a serious discussion with you.
Calling Boxer a traitor is also just a fucking stupid when you look at the facts of the situation
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And your statement on your first post on this thread is still a fucking ridiculous as ever
Calling Hassan a hero to the left is just sick. Statements like that are why I can't have a serious discussion with you.
Calling Boxer a traitor is also just a fucking stupid when you look at the facts of the situation
No, she is a hero right?
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Straw - care to explain?
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you're a traitor and a vile enemy of the nation
you're also very stupid
why would I waste my time trying to explain anything to you?
So you don't have any examples of the right, even of the nutjobs on the far right, doing what Boxer did.
I am not surprised. Most of your lame posts are absent of any evidence or logic.
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Straw - care to explain?
Can someone show me Tea Party people remotely as bad as this?
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So you don't have any examples of the right, even of the nutjobs on the far right, doing what Boxer did.
I am not surprised. Most of your lame posts are absent of any evidence or logic.
Boxer didn't do anything wrong
it's all imaginary nonsense in the mind of morons
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Boxer didn't do anything wrong
it's all imaginary nonsense in the mind of morons
::) ::)
Did you watch my clip?
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Can someone show me Tea Party people remotely as bad as this?
333 - why do you think a bunch of cobbled together photos represents the views of anyone other than the people in the photos. I don't even know if those photos are from the US. Do you?
like I've said many time you look for a few radicals and then try to conflate their views to anyone who you disagree with
I used to hope you were not that fucking stupid but it's pretty obvious by now that you are
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333 - why do you think a bunch of cobbled together photos represents the views of anyone other than the people in the photos. I don't even know if those photos are from the US. Do you?
like I've said many time you look for a few radicals and then try to conflate their views to anyone who you disagree with
I used to hope you were not that fucking stupid but it's pretty obvious by now that you are
I guess so. ::)
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brutal change of subject.
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the offender might have had a helper. you guys dont want to know, in fact, you want to destroy any evidence which may show it.
then you wanna complain about dems in office. shocking.
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AWOL Soldier Arrested in What Police Say Was New Fort Hood Terror Plot
Fox News ^ | Published July 28, 2011 | Mike Levine & Jennifer Griffin
Posted on July 28, 2011 8:54:42 PM EDT by little jeremiah
AWOL Soldier Arrested in What Police Say Was New Fort Hood Terror Plot
An Army private has been arrested in connection with an alleged plot to attack Fort Hood soldiers that authorities suggest was close to being carried out. The arrest, first reported by Fox News, comes nearly two years after a deadly shooting rampage at the base.
Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo, an AWOL soldier from Fort Campbell in Kentucky, was arrested by the Killeen, Texas, Police Department near Fort Hood and remains in custody at the Killeen jail.
Abdo, 21, was found with weapons, explosives and jihadist materials at the time of his arrest, a senior Army source confirms to Fox News. He was arrested at around 2 p.m. Wednesday after someone called authorities to report a suspicious individual.
Eric Vasys, a spokesman with the FBI's San Antonio Office, said authorities found firearms and bomb making components inside Abdo's motel room.
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Abdo went AWOL on July 4. On the eve of his first deployment to Afghanistan -- after only one year in the Army -- Abdo applied for conscientious objector status as a Muslim. It was denied by his superiors at Fort Campbell but later overturned by the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Army review board.
Another source told Fox News that two other U.S. soldiers have been questioned as part of the investigation.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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Two police officers who took down Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan, lose their jobs
Source: NY Daily News
Two Army civilian police officers who helped bring down the madman who carried out a massacre at Fort Hood have lost their jobs.
Mark Todd and Kimberly Munley were hailed as heroes for helping stop Maj. Nidal Hasan at the end of his 2009 rampage.
But they and several other officers learned this week that their contracts with the Army will not be extended.
Munley - who was wounded in the shooting - was on leave but had planned to return to her job, she said.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/31/201...
WTF! ! ! !
WWWWTTTFFF ! ! ! ! !
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Um - I heard this a week ago - they're utilizing full time army officers instead of the civilians, right?
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Um - I heard this a week ago - they're utilizing full time army officers instead of the civilians, right?
come on - this sounds awfully suspicious.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/29/us-usa-crime-forthood-idUSBRE92S0IW20130329
Disgusting.