mens open good pics,lighting / slightly low angle pics'showed some large legs on these guys,well curry to me and everybody raves about all the new size past yr he was soft ,good shape/thick but smooth,,cedric should be sailing through these shows but again off,,jose raymond 'hard vascular condition,as known for but shape and overall he's not at his peaked yrs so to speak.the other guys out of top 5 some really good conditioned builds with lesser name recognition shame..timms looked good in classic for the win,,he's tall,long limbed but good balance.