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I see you want to get kicked in the nuts again lol

I stand by this 100%

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Congratulations

Looks like the death threats from your side against them and their families have worked

Do you want to take a crack at explaining why you oppose spending your own tax money to improve your own community?

Or are you not really sure either?

Go to the one minute mark and you can hear one of your fellow Republicans doing something you and the phony "coach" would do or maybe it actually is one of you guys on the tape



The only threats that concern them come from the constituents who made it clear that they were toast, running for re-election.

And lefties like you are the LAST ONES to lecture anyone on death threats to politicians. Ask Joe Manchin how man Dems have been pestering and threatening him over the last few months before spewing your usual silliness.
 
As is often the case, you're either to myopic or too brick-headed to see the blatantly obvious. Only a fraction of this infrastructure bill is actually for infrastructure. Hiding other foolishness behind the title "infrastructure" doesn't erase that fact.

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I cannot defend that behavior.  :-\

I'm starting to like you

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I see that you're unable to answer my question.....YET AGAIN

Tell us in your own words why you oppose spending your own money in your own community

Let's hear it

Cause we need to quit deficit spending you fucktard.  That’s why I oppose it.

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Only $550bil is going towards actual “infrastructure” where’s the rest going?

I see you're still at it, here on the  get big politics forum. ;)

I came back (to get big) when I learned of Pellius's sudden passing and gave my condolences .

Ya know Coach, I watch a lot more games now ( NCAA & NFL football, NHL , pro soccer) and really enjoyed the 2021 World Series.
As you well know, unlike politics, in sports, everyone has to follow the same enforced rules and accept the final score/result.

Unlike you, I grew weary of the endless political disputes that never seem to be resolved.
On these platforms, people almost never change their opinion . It ends up becoming a festival of unrelated insults.
I stay informed but don't follow the daily political details and am a lot happier now.

It seems that Covid was never a major problem for you or your family and that's good.
My wife and I got the 2 shot Pfizer vaccine, plus a booster last month . We were  fortunate to never get Covid.

I hope your training biz is going well and your own BB life is kicking ass.
I was curious what you thought of undefeated U of Cinn and their shot to make the playoff?

PS/ I always wanted to meet up with you at a major contest and "talk shop".
I understand if you wouldn't be interested in doing that .

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Thanks for underscoring the socialist pork bill filled with bullshit “climate change” initiatives and universal spending

What's in the $1.2 Trillion Bipartisan Bill
The 2,702-page Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which has not changed, contains just $550 billion in new spending. The $1.2 trillion figure comes from including additional funding normally allocated each year for highways and other infrastructure projects. The new spending includes:8

$110 billion for roads and bridges. In addition to construction and repair, the funding also helps pay for transportation research at universities, funding for Puerto Rico’s highways, and “congestion relief” in American cities.

66 billion for railroads. Funding includes upgrades and maintenance of America’s passenger rail system and freight rail safety, but nothing for high-speed rail.

$65 billion for the power grid. The bill would fund updates to power lines and cables, as well as provide money to prevent hacking of the power grid. Clean energy funding is also included.

$65 billion for broadband. Includes funding to expand broadband in rural areas and in low-income communities. Approximately $14 billion of the total would help reduce Internet bills for low-income citizens.

$55 billion for water infrastructure. This funding includes $15 billion for lead pipe replacement, $10 billion for chemical cleanup, and money to provide clean drinking water in tribal communities.

$47 billion for cybersecurity and climate change. This resilience funding will protect infrastructure from cybersecurity attacks and address flooding, wildfires, coastal erosion, and droughts along with other extreme weather events.

$39 billion for public transit. Funding here provides for upgrades to public transit systems nationwide. The allocation also includes money to create new bus routes and help make public transit more accessible to seniors and disabled Americans.

$25 billion for airports. This allocation provides funding for major upgrades and expansions at U.S. airports. Air traffic control towers and systems would receive $5 billion of the total for upgrades.

$21 billion for the environment. These monies would be used to clean up superfund and brownfield sites, abandoned mines, and old oil and gas wells.

$17 billion for ports. Half of the funds in this category would go to the Army Corps of Engineers for port infrastructure. Additional funds would go to the Coast Guard, ferry terminals, and reduction of truck emissions at ports.

$11 billion for safety. Appropriations here are to address highway, pedestrian, pipeline, and other safety areas with highway safety getting the bulk of the funding.

$8 billion for western water infrastructure. Ongoing drought conditions in the western half of the country will be addressed through investments in water treatment, storage, and reuse facilities.

$7.5 bill for electric vehicle charging stations. The Biden administration asked for this funding to build significantly more charging stations for electric vehicles across the nation.

$7.5 billion for electric school buses. With an emphasis on bus fleet replacement in low-income, rural, and tribal communities, this funding is expected to allow those communities to convert to zero-emission buses.

What's in—and Not in—the $1.75+ Trillion Scaled-Down Democratic Proposal
The outline below shows what in the Build Back Better Act has survived negotiations (so far) and what has not.9

What's In
$400 billion for childcare and universal preschool. The plan is designed to save most American families more than half of their spending on childcare by providing two years of free preschool for every 3- and 4-year-old in America and additional funding for childcare.

Family and medical leave. Permanently authorizes the first-ever national paid family and medical leave guarantee for U.S. workers that provides up to four weeks of paid leave.

$200 billion for Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Credit. The proposal extends the expanded Child Tax Credit for one year and provides additional funds to extend the expanded Earned Income Tax Credit.

$150 billion for home care. This funding expands home care for older people and those with disabilities.

$150 billion for housing. The plan invests in affordable housing, including construction and rehabilitation of homes, as well as investments in rental assistance and housing vouchers.

$40 billion higher ed and workforce development. The legislation will increase Pell grants and provide post-high school education opportunities including apprenticeship programs for underserved communities.

$25 billion for the Small Business Committee. This provides for small business access to credit, investment, and markets.

$90 billion for equity and other investments. Spending in this area will be designed to achieve equity through investments in maternal health, community violence interventions, and nutrition according to the White House.

$5 billion in supply chain investments. These investments will be designed to safeguard our economy and support domestic job growth.

$10 billion to support child nutrition. This investment will help expand eligibility and eliminate paperwork so more children can receive free school meals.

State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction relief. Accomplished by increasing and applying the cap over the long-term, allowing states and counties to raise more revenue to deliver essential public services.

Agreement to lower prescription drugs costs. The compromise plan would reduce the price of insulin and halt drug price hikes above inflation, which affects all Americans. Older Americans in particular would benefit from Medicare's ability to negotiate prescription drug prices in its Part B and Part D program. In addition, the compromise limits Medicare out-of-pocket copays and caps drug costs for Medicare recipients at $2,000 per year.

$10 billion to support child nutrition. This investment will help expand eligibility and eliminate paperwork so more children can receive free school meals.

State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction relief. Accomplished by increasing and applying the cap over the long-term, allowing states and counties to raise more revenue to deliver essential public services.

Agreement to lower prescription drugs costs. The compromise plan would reduce the price of insulin and halt drug price hikes above inflation, which affects all Americans. Older Americans in particular would benefit from Medicare's ability to negotiate prescription drug prices in its Part B and Part D program. In addition, the compromise limits Medicare out-of-pocket copays and caps drug costs for Medicare recipients at $2,000 per year.

$130 billion in ACA credits. This money will be used to expand affordable healthcare coverage, reduce premiums for more than 9 million Americans, and deliver healthcare to uninsured people in states that are not enrolled in expanded Medicaid coverage.

$35 billion Medicare hearing coverage. While dental and vision coverage did not make the cut, Medicare recipients will have coverage for hearing aids and hearing tests. The funding will also cover nursing home transparency and staffing standards, and bolster funding for the Elder Justice Act program.

$550+ billion for clean energy and climate. The plan proposes cutting greenhouse gas pollution by over a gigaton in 2030, reducing consumer energy costs, helping to create more clean air and water, and creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.

Corporate alternative minimum tax. A 15% minimum tax on companies whose financial statements show at least $1 billion in profit—proposed by Senators Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), Angus King (I., Maine) and Ron Wyden (D., Ore.)—has been added to the current Build Back Better legislation to help fund it.

$100 billion for immigration. This is part of the framework, but also separate since it requires a ruling by the Senate parliamentarian. This would constitute an investment to reform the immigration system, reduce backlogs, expand legal representation, and make border processing more efficient and humane.

What's Out
Medicare dental and vision benefits. Although these became victims of the budgeting axe, hearing aids and testing survived the cut.

Free community college. Expansion of Pell grants and apprenticeship training remains, but free community college was taken out.

Billionaires income tax. This funding plan, which would have taxed the unrealized gains of certain assets of around 700 of the richest taxpayers in the country and helped fund the legislation, was removed.

A Quick Look at the Original $3.5 Trillion Bill
The original Democratic FY2022 Budget Resolution Agreement Framework memorandum was designed to enact President Biden's Build Back Better agenda as first framed. This proposal, often referred to as an investment in human infrastructure, was far-reaching and ambitious. It listed the following amounts and areas to be addressed:10

$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry. Funding to be used to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions, and address drought concerns.

$332 billion for the Banking Committee. Including investments in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability, and equity and community land trusts.

$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee. This would develop clean energy.

$67 billion for the Environment and Public Works Committee. These monies would fund low-income solar and other climate-friendly technologies.

$1.8 trillion for the Finance Committee. This part of the bill is for investments in working families, the older people, and the environment. It includes a tax cut for Americans making less than $400,000 a year, lowering the price of prescription drugs and ensuring that wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share of taxes.

$726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education, and Pensions Committee. This addresses universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, childcare for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities, and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.

$37 billion for the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. This would electrify the federal vehicle fleet, electrify and rehab federal buildings, improve cybersecurity infrastructure, reinforce border management, invest in green-materials procurement, and invest in resilience.

$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee. These funds address establishing "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."

$20.5 billion for the Indian Affairs Committee. This addresses Native American health programs and facilities, education programs and facilities, housing programs, energy programs, resilience and climate programs, BIA programs and facilities, Native language programs, and the Native Civilian Climate Corps.

$18 billion for the Veterans Affairs Committee. This funds upgrades to veteran facilities.

$83 billion for the Commerce Committee. This goes to investments in technology, transportation, research, manufacturing, and economic development. It provides funding for coastal resiliency and healthy oceans investments, including the National Oceans and Coastal Security Fund and the National Science Foundation research and technology directorate.

Timeline for Both Bills
Though both Democrats and Republicans praised the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill, it took nearly three months after it passed the Senate to be approved by the House. And there remain significant challenges to be addressed before the previously $3.5 trillion (now $1.75+ trillion) Build Back Better bill reaches its final stages. Here's how the process went.[/size]

It appear that you just copied and pasted that entire page without actually reading it

If you had read it you would have noticed that some of what you copied and pasted were "proposals" and not actually what passed

What you were supposed to find, if you actually knew how to read, was the answer to your question

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The 2,702-page Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which has not changed, contains just $550 billion in new spending. The $1.2 trillion figure comes from including additional funding normally allocated each year for highways and other infrastructure projects.

Coach is Back!

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It appear that you just copied and pasted that entire page without actually reading it

If you had read it you would have noticed that some of what you copied and pasted were "proposals" and not actually what passed

What you were supposed to find, if you actually knew how to read, was the answer to your question

LOL...stop lol

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Cause we need to quit deficit spending you fucktard.  That’s why I oppose it.

We've been deficit spending since WWII

Republicans have repeatedly said that deficits don't matter (they only seem to say this when they are in control)

Also, try to remember that this bill was co-authored by Senate REPUBLICANS

5 of them even attended the bill signing ceremony

And guess what is happening now?

Yep you guessed it .....Republicans who voted against the infrastructure bill area also taking credit for it (or attempting to) with tweets bragging about bringing funds to their constituents.

https://palmer.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/palmer-new-funding-birminghams-northern-beltline




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LOL...stop lol

Stop making you look like a jackass ?

Sorry, that's impossible

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Stop making you look like a jackass ?

Sorry, that's impossible

Straw, glad to see you're still healthy and passionate about the issues.
I suspect you know, I tend to be more on your side on politics.

BUT...regardless of what side you're on, this kind of "forum debate" seems pointless.

C'mon now, nobody really changes their mind and might get less tolerant by interacting on these politics forums.
It ends up becoming a virtual festival of insult shouting and trying to "own" the other side.

While it's not for me, I see no harm in doing it and wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season.

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Stop making you look like a jackass ?

Sorry, that's impossible

Dude, we already know you're marxist piece of shit and by backing this bill and other spending bills proposed by this administration just puts another nail in your communist coffin.

Straw Man

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Straw, glad to see you're still healthy and passionate about the issues.
I suspect you know, I tend to be more on your side on politics.

BUT...regardless of what side you're on, this kind of "forum debate" seems pointless.

C'mon now, nobody really changes their mind and might get less tolerant by interacting on these politics forums.
It ends up becoming a virtual festival of insult shouting and trying to "own" the other side.

While it's not for me, I see no harm in doing it and wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season.

Please note that I asked a very simple question...about five times which was:

Tell us in your own words why you oppose spending your own money in your own community

It should be a pretty easy question if someone actually knew what was in the bill and were actually opposed to the where/how the money was being spent

This bill was co-authored by Republicans and yet somehow Republicans are leaving each other death threats over it

 


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Dude, we already know you're marxist piece of shit and by backing this bill and other spending bills proposed by this administration just puts another nail in your communist coffin.

What part of the ACTUAL bill that passed do you oppose and why

I'm not going to ask you five times this time

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Please note that I asked a very simple question...about five times which was:

Tell us in your own words why you oppose spending your own money in your own community

It should be a pretty easy question if someone actually knew what was in the bill and were actually opposed to the where/how the money was being spent

This bill was co-authored by Republicans and yet somehow Republicans are leaving each other death threats over it

Huh?

I'm for the infrastructure bill and proud Biden signed it .
Maybe this reply was intended for Coach?

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What part of the ACTUAL bill that passed do you oppose and why

I'm not going to ask you five times this time

I and I told you. Put up or shut up. If you’re so sure if yourself, you’d accept the challenge. This is problem with liberals and even liberals in the media. When they’re publicly called out they either don’t respond or change the subject. I already told you. But like most Liberal/Marxists, you’re a coward.


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Huh?

I'm for the infrastructure bill and proud Biden signed it .
Maybe this reply was intended for Coach?

What are you proud of? Didn’t at one time you claim to be a capitalist? This a 100% Socialist/Marxist spending bill

Straw Man

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I and I told you. Put up or shut up. If you’re so sure if yourself, you’d accept the challenge. This is problem with liberals and even liberals in the media. When they’re publicly called out they either don’t respond or change the subject. I already told you. But like most Liberal/Marxists, you’re a coward.

I'm 100% sure you're a certified moron and a complete waste of my time

I see you still can't state one thing in the actual bill that you oppose and why.


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I'm 100% sure you're a certified moron and a complete waste of my time

I see you still can't state one thing in the actual bill that you oppose and why.

Lol…I can tear it apart all day long in detail. Quit skating….mouth

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Lol…I can tear it apart all day long in detail. Quit skating….mouth

Yet for some reason you still can't list one thing that is actually in the bill and explain why you oppose it.


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