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Title: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Stark on March 19, 2008, 01:16:04 AM
Richard Speck:
At 11:00 PM on July 13, 1966, Speck broke into a townhouse located at 2319 East 100th Street in the Jeffery Manor neighborhood of Chicago. It was functioning as a dormitory for several young student nurses, some of whom were Filipinas. Armed with only a knife, he terrorized the young women, who included Gloria Davy, Patricia Matusek, Nina Schmale, Pamela Wilkening, Suzanne Farris, Mary Ann Jordan, Merlita Gargullo, and Valentina Pasion. Speck, who later claimed he was high on both alcohol and drugs, may have originally planned to commit a routine burglary.[3] Speck held the women in the house for hours, methodically leading them out of the room one by one, stabbing or strangling them to death, then finally raping and strangling his last victim, Gloria Davy. Only one woman, Cora (Corazon) Amurao, escaped because she managed to wriggle under a bed while Speck was out of the room with one of his victims. Speck may have lost count, or he may have known there were eight women living in the townhouse but had been unaware that a ninth student nurse was spending the night there. Amurao stayed hidden until almost 6 AM. When she emerged, she climbed out her northeast bedroom window onto a ledge screaming, "They're all dead! All my friends are dead!"[4
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck

This is what he looked like when he was "all good" ;)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Speck1966.jpg)

AND THIS IS WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON and Prisoners forced him to become a Queen and
take female hormons so he can grow breasts.
This is why we need to lock these guys up and not just kill them.


I'm looovin it :D :D

Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Stark on March 19, 2008, 01:17:45 AM
oh and it says a lot if a person like him growing breasts makes him "desirable" to these inmates ::)
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 01:23:36 AM
It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to keep them alive.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Kwon on March 19, 2008, 01:38:59 AM
The Death Penalty is not a penalty compared to that sorry existence.

Death would probably be freedom, liberation and releasing him from that.

It would be doing him a favor.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: HTexan on March 19, 2008, 01:55:07 AM
so your saying every sex offender should be force to take hormones?  :)
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Kwon on March 19, 2008, 01:59:34 AM
Now, wouldn't that be a real frickin' prison-penalty?

That would teach most criminals a lesson.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: HTexan on March 19, 2008, 02:04:25 AM
Now, wouldn't that be a real frickin' prison-penalty?

That would teach most criminals a lesson.
truth.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Stark on March 19, 2008, 02:07:59 AM
It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to keep them alive.

Not if you want to hurt them and make them pay for the rest of their life, otherwise you can also say that keeping Old people in Homes is a waste of money, they certainly don't contribute to society anymore.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Stark on March 19, 2008, 02:09:32 AM
so your saying every sex offender should be force to take hormones?  :)

No I say every sex offender Mass murdering Serial killing scumbag should be carefully analysed "mentaly disected" so we
can learn as much as possible from him and than when we are done with him we send him to the worst pits in the world.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 02:21:43 AM
The Death Penalty is not a penalty compared to that sorry existence.

Death would probably be freedom, liberation and releasing him from that.

It would be doing him a favor.


If that were the case I'd think they would gladly kill themselves. If he's taking hormones and getting raped in prison he probably enjoys it.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: HTexan on March 19, 2008, 02:39:44 AM
If that were the case I'd think they would gladly kill themselves. If he's taking hormones and getting raped in prison he probably enjoys it.
I highly doubt he enjoyed it. They made him a tranny. :-\
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: The Squadfather on March 19, 2008, 03:50:01 PM
I highly doubt he enjoyed it. They made him a tranny. :-\
he said in that video that "if they knew how much fun i was having in here they'd have never put me in here", he died awhile back i think but i remember how hilarious i thought that clip was when it first hit the news.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: TooPowerful4u on March 19, 2008, 03:57:19 PM
Prison is torture.  I think torture is more fitting for violent crimes rather than death...which is just putting them out of their misery.  Put violent crime offenders in a situation where they fear for their lives day in and out and are beaten up every day and the rest of their lives is miserable.  Its what they deserve.  I think the death penalty should only be given to the mentally unstable and insane....because their state of mind isnt right to live in society, they are obviously a threat to everyone, and they wouldnt understand they are being punnished in prison. 
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Disgusted on March 19, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to keep them alive.

No, it costs more to kill them.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 07:13:21 PM
People like "pumphard" and "jediknight" who have known pedophilic tendencies should be shot in the head.  A bullet only costs a quarter.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 07:17:31 PM
What's the story behind that anyway? How did you catch him on pedo websites?
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 07:32:13 PM
What's the story behind that anyway? How did you catch him on pedo websites?

Googled "pumphard's" screen name.  Took about 15 seconds to find him on a "questionable" site.  I confronted him about it on the Y board, and within a few minutes of me confronting him, the four posts that were on his account on that site "magically" ::) disappeared (another Y boarder followed the link I posted to his profile page and can back up what I say about those posts disappearing).  Seems pumphard was trying to hide something.  It took him quite a while before he started denying that was his account.  At first he admitted it but then realized he was getting flamed too hard so he started the denials.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 07:35:09 PM
Disgusting.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Thealmightyronald on March 19, 2008, 07:37:54 PM
That's fucking gross and it's what they ALL deserve. Anyone who murders or rapes deserves to be beat the fuck down everyday. He said he enjoys it... fuckin sick.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 07:39:46 PM
No, it costs more to kill them.
A bullet costs more than keeping them alive for umpteen years ???

Rope is very cheap as well.

So is liquid Draino.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: slaveboy1980 on March 19, 2008, 07:44:28 PM
Richard Speck:
At 11:00 PM on July 13, 1966, Speck broke into a townhouse located at 2319 East 100th Street in the Jeffery Manor neighborhood of Chicago. It was functioning as a dormitory for several young student nurses, some of whom were Filipinas. Armed with only a knife, he terrorized the young women, who included Gloria Davy, Patricia Matusek, Nina Schmale, Pamela Wilkening, Suzanne Farris, Mary Ann Jordan, Merlita Gargullo, and Valentina Pasion. Speck, who later claimed he was high on both alcohol and drugs, may have originally planned to commit a routine burglary.[3] Speck held the women in the house for hours, methodically leading them out of the room one by one, stabbing or strangling them to death, then finally raping and strangling his last victim, Gloria Davy. Only one woman, Cora (Corazon) Amurao, escaped because she managed to wriggle under a bed while Speck was out of the room with one of his victims. Speck may have lost count, or he may have known there were eight women living in the townhouse but had been unaware that a ninth student nurse was spending the night there. Amurao stayed hidden until almost 6 AM. When she emerged, she climbed out her northeast bedroom window onto a ledge screaming, "They're all dead! All my friends are dead!"[4
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Speck

This is what he looked like when he was "all good" ;)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Speck1966.jpg)

AND THIS IS WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON and Prisoners forced him to become a Queen and
take female hormons so he can grow breasts.
This is why we need to lock these guys up and not just kill them.


I'm looovin it :D :D



already posted that a year ago.

he even got boobies in prison.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 07:48:03 PM
A bullet costs more than keeping them alive for umpteen years ???

Rope is very cheap as well.

So is liquid Draino.

That's what I'm sayin'.  We're way too soft on criminals in this country.  Human rights bla bla bla ::)  Mentally ill wackos like pedos and 1st deg murder multiple offenders can't be rehabilitated.  Why waste good tax payer money letting them eat three meals a day?  Kill 'em.  And make it bloody.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: JediKnight on March 19, 2008, 07:48:28 PM
Guys like Pandemonium and Pumphard who admitted they have Pedo addicitions, need to be locked up for ever and experience what they did to their victims.Check out Pandemonium's ugly pedo addiction. The guy was caught with a profile at some kid anime site. Pure trash. There's a nice gas chamber for a guy like that. See for yourself. Poor guy was telling everyone he was talking to RIP offline.,.hahhahahah,,she worked him and denied it..poor guy is trying to hard,,,but he's pedo,,


http://aroms.com/forums/member.html?u=11136
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 07:50:59 PM
That's what I'm sayin'.  We're way too soft on criminals in this country.  Human rights bla bla bla ::)  Mentally ill wackos like pedos and 1st deg murder multiple offenders can't be rehabilitated.  Why waste good tax payer money letting them eat three meals a day?  Kill 'em.  And make it bloody.
I'm all for public executions, PPV revenues could go to victims families. And maybe some youngsters would think twice before commiting a crime.  And just maybe sick fucks like pumphard and JediKnight would get exactly what they deserve. >:(
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Thealmightyronald on March 19, 2008, 07:51:10 PM
That's what I'm sayin'.  We're way too soft on criminals in this country.  Human rights bla bla bla ::)  Mentally ill wackos like pedos and 1st deg murder multiple offenders can't be rehabilitated.  Why waste good tax payer money letting them eat three meals a day?  Kill 'em.  And make it bloody.

I don't see why they just do it slaughter house style without telling the public... that's what murderers and rapists should have done to them. I mean I think being beat for hours would make them realize what they've done.

And fuck their rights, did they give their victim rights? No.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: kh300 on March 19, 2008, 07:59:52 PM
That's what I'm sayin'.  We're way too soft on criminals in this country.  Human rights bla bla bla ::)  Mentally ill wackos like pedos and 1st deg murder multiple offenders can't be rehabilitated.  Why waste good tax payer money letting them eat three meals a day?  Kill 'em.  And make it bloody.

i agree. but the appeals process against death row in the court system costs more then keeping them alive.

Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:01:05 PM
I'm all for public executions, PPV revenues could go to victims families. And maybe some youngsters would think twice before commiting a crime.  And just maybe sick fucks like pumphard and JediKnight would get exactly what they deserve. >:(

I like that PPV idea, esp with proceeds going to the victims.  You should run for office and then we can finally get things done in this country 8)

I tell ya, the Old West and its vigilante justice gets a lot of flack these days, but I think they had it more spot on than we do today.

I don't see why they just do it slaughter house style without telling the public... that's what murderers and rapists should have done to them. I mean I think being beat for hours would make them realize what they've done.

And fuck their rights, did they give their victim rights? No.

Totally agree.  TBH I think violent criminals like rapists, pedos, etc. are more like animals than humans.  Same for the Guantanamo detainees.  Those sick POS's don't have a sense of the value of human life, so they should be treated the same way they treat their victims.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
i agree. but the appeals process against death row in the court system costs more then keeping them alive.



Yeah, unfortunately.  Our justice system is all f'ed up.  We're idealizing in this thread...no way any of this stuff will ever happen.  The bleeding hearts who think violent offenders are "people" are ruining it for everyone. >:(
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:03:37 PM
You should run for office and then we can finally get things done in this country 8)

I don't think anyone really wants that ;D

Our prisons would be half empty by the end of the first month ;)
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:04:32 PM
I don't think anyone really wants that ;D

Our prisons would be half empty by the end of the first month ;)

hahaha  Bro you might get only two votes, but one would be from your wife and the other from me ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Thealmightyronald on March 19, 2008, 08:07:21 PM
hahaha  Bro you might get only two votes, but one would be from your wife and the other from me ;D

Make that 3 votes.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:09:29 PM
hahaha Should I start out at city council or throw my name in the ring for the election this year?


President Chaos.............hmmmm, has a ring to it. ;D



hahahahaaaa I can picture all the brown people scattering like roaches now. ;D


J/K brown people, we need you here to pick our oranges and clean our houses/cars.....
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: kh300 on March 19, 2008, 08:09:38 PM
Yeah, unfortunately.  Our justice system is all f'ed up.  We're idealizing in this thread...no way any of this stuff will ever happen.  The bleeding hearts who think violent offenders are "people" are ruining it for everyone. >:(

our society is turning into 'the criminal is also a victim'.

Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: kh300 on March 19, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Make that 3 votes.

4
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Post by: Matt C on March 19, 2008, 08:10:43 PM
It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to keep them alive.

That's a fallacy.  It actually costs more for them to go through the appeals process than it would to keep them in jail for life.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:12:16 PM
our society is turning into 'the criminal is also a victim'.



Sad but true.  People can't seem to man up anymore for the decisions they make.  When I was growing up my mom always used to say that "every action has a consequence."  Sounds corny but it's pretty deep when ya think about it.



President Chaos.............hmmmm, has a ring to it. ;D


Sounds good by me, as long as your Sec'y of Defense is "Lord ::) Pandaemonium" hahahaha!
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Thealmightyronald on March 19, 2008, 08:13:10 PM
hahaha Should I start out at city council or throw my name in the ring for the election this year?


President Chaos.............hmmmm, has a ring to it. ;D



hahahahaaaa I can picture all the brown people scattering like roaches now. ;D


J/K brown people, we need you here to pick our oranges and clean our houses/cars.....

I would vote for anyone real that doesn't lie or hide their agenda, so far you seem real and I like the fact you wanna slaughter prisoners, so you'd have my vote.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:13:44 PM
That's a fallacy.  It actually costs more for them to go through the appeals process than it would to keep them in jail for life.
STFU, sissy-ass Canadian.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:15:52 PM
Sad but true.  People can't seem to man up anymore for the decisions they make.  When I was growing up my mom always used to say that "every action has a consequence."  Sounds corny but it's pretty deep when ya think about it.

Sounds good by me, as long as your Sec'y of Defense is "Lord ::) Pandaemonium" hahahaha!
My parents just said shit like, you fucked up, take responsibility and fix it, or I'll whip your ass and you'll still have to fix it. ;D


How about "The Royal Defender of this Great Land Pandaemonium"? :D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Thealmightyronald on March 19, 2008, 08:16:27 PM
our society is turning into 'the criminal is also a victim'.



You're right. The people that are letting these prisoners off easy need to think about if the person that got raped was their sister,daughter,friend... I have a feeling they'd change their minds about how the justice system should treat convicts.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: kh300 on March 19, 2008, 08:17:29 PM
STFU, sissy-ass Canadian.

lol. love it
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:17:38 PM
How about "The Royal Defender of this Great Land Pandaemonium"? :D

sounds cool to me ;D  But I'd like to have the power to personally execute sick pedo fucks like "jediknight" and "pumphard"
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:22:38 PM
sounds cool to me ;D  But I'd like to have the power to personally execute sick pedo fucks like "jediknight" and "pumphard"
You would have that power with government bought bullets and guns, your choice of course.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: The Ugly on March 19, 2008, 08:24:21 PM
That's a fallacy.  It actually costs more for them to go through the appeals process than it would to keep them in jail for life.

I'd gladly divert my tax dollars from welfare/social service/public schools/public works, etc. to help bury these fuckers instead.  
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
How much $$$$ can be saved if there were 1/2 of the prisoners that we currently have?

Not only that but I'd fucking hack half the politicians off the payroll as well, too many of those leeches taking our tax dollars. >:(
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:27:15 PM
You would have that power with government bought bullets and guns, your choice of course.

Hmmm...how about aluminum baseball bats? ;)
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Matt C on March 19, 2008, 08:28:03 PM
STFU, sissy-ass Canadian.

In all fairness, I do think the death penalty is applied appropriately at times, for instance in the case of Ted Bundy.  The problem is when innocent people are executed and by every estimation, there are always innocent people on death row.

A philosophical problem with the death penalty is that it is saying that the state condones murder.  As long as you have the state condoning murder and knowingly killing innocent people (no matter how few), there is a cultural problem here.

But if the scum in question truly did commit the crimes s/he was accused of, I am not going to lose any sleep over them being put to death.  Of course a humane death is a reasonable expectation.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 08:30:19 PM
My parents just said shit like, you fucked up, take responsibility and fix it, or I'll whip your ass and you'll still have to fix it. ;D

I like that line.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Matt C on March 19, 2008, 08:30:45 PM
I'd gladly divert my tax dollars from welfare/social service/public schools/public works, etc. to help bury these fuckers instead. 

Sure - presuming they are in fact guilty.  The problem with giving so much power to the state is that power corrupts.  Innocent people are put to death and you would likely feel differently if you were an innocent person on death row.

How much $$$$ can be saved if there were 1/2 of the prisoners that we currently have?

Not only that but I'd fucking hack half the politicians off the payroll as well, too many of those leeches taking our tax dollars. >:(

As your second paragraph suggests, you appear to be cognizant of the corruption in politics.  The prison industrial complex is a multi-billion dollar per year annual market.  The incredibly powerful interest groups who control it want more people in prison, not less.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
In all fairness, I do think the death penalty is applied appropriately at times, for instance in the case of Ted Bundy.  The problem is when innocent people are executed and by every estimation, there are always innocent people on death row.

A philosophical problem with the death penalty is that it is saying that the state condones murder.  As long as you have the state condoning murder and knowingly killing innocent people (no matter how few), there is a cultural problem here.

But if the scum in question truly did commit the crimes s/he was accused of, I am not going to lose any sleep over them being put to death.  Of course a humane death is a reasonable expectation.
A few innocent are a lowly price to pay for the tax savings and the safety of the community to get rid of the majority of scum. I have no moral objection to losing a few innocents in the process of criminal cleansing.

If you don't like it you can suck my dick.



















The line to suck my dick starts to the left.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:32:24 PM
In all fairness, I do think the death penalty is applied appropriately at times, for instance in the case of Ted Bundy.  The problem is when innocent people are executed and by every estimation, there are always innocent people on death row.

A philosophical problem with the death penalty is that it is saying that the state condones murder.  As long as you have the state condoning murder and knowingly killing innocent people (no matter how few), there is a cultural problem here.

But if the scum in question truly did commit the crimes s/he was accused of, I am not going to lose any sleep over them being put to death.  Of course a humane death is a reasonable expectation.

No offense, Matt, but I don't remember any of us asking for your opinion.  It's best to stay quiet until we do.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
No offense, Matt, but I don't remember any of us asking for your opinion.  It's best to stay quiet until we do.
Besides, WTF input does Canada have on our government, fuck Canada.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:35:53 PM
Besides, WTF input does Canada have on our government, fuck Canada.


The only thing Canada contributes to getbig is gay schmoes (MattC) and sick pedophiles (pumphard) >:(
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
The only thing Canada contributes to getbig is gay schmoes (MattC) and sick pedophiles (pumphard) >:(
The best thing to ever happen to Canada was "Avesher", that guy is great!! ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: marcus on March 19, 2008, 08:38:52 PM
I didn't know sausage fingers was from Canada. Guess we won't be seeing him on Dateline any time soon.  :-\
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:40:40 PM
I didn't know sausage fingers was from Canada. Guess we won't be seeing him on Dateline any time soon.  :-\

hahaha

The best thing to ever happen to Canada was "Avesher", that guy is great!! ;D

I forgot about good ol' avesher ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
I didn't know sausage fingers was from Canada. Guess we won't be seeing him on Dateline any time soon.  :-\
He lives in the poorest section of Toronto, above a gay bar. He gave out the address, I looked it up, turned out to be a gay bar......strange he would give out that info....dipshit.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Matt C on March 19, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
A few innocent are a lowly price to pay for the tax savings and the safety of the community to get rid of the majority of scum. I have no moral objection to losing a few innocents in the process of criminal cleansing.

Well I guess this is where we disagree.  Be mindful of the fact that it does cost more in appeals to have the death penalty than it does to keep the criminals in prisons.  Also, when they are in prison for life, the community is just as safe.  The death penalty is also not a deterrent for criminals.  So it is difficult to create a valid argument in favour of the death penalty.  I find it is more from a revenge mentality most of the time.

If you don't like it you can suck my dick.



















The line to suck my dick starts to the left.

Are you suggesting I puff them?  ???
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 19, 2008, 08:45:13 PM
He lives in the poorest section of Toronto, above a gay bar. He gave out the address, I looked it up, turned out to be a gay bar......strange he would give out that info....dipshit.

hahahaa that was a SAVAGE owning when chaos posted those pics of "pumphard's" apartment.  Man I still laugh about that  ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 08:53:07 PM
Well I guess this is where we disagree.  Be mindful of the fact that it does cost more in appeals to have the death penalty than it does to keep the criminals in prisons.  Also, when they are in prison for life, the community is just as safe.  The death penalty is also not a deterrent for criminals.  So it is difficult to create a valid argument in favour of the death penalty.  I find it is more from a revenge mentality most of the time.

You're getting confused about this, just like your sexuality. There would be far less appeals, all appeals go in at once, if they are all denied, your ass is dead. What part of that don't you understand?




Are you suggesting I puff them?  ???
I'm saying if dicks were tootsie rolls, you would know how many licks it takes to get to the center.
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Big_Tymer on March 19, 2008, 09:04:48 PM
You're right. The people that are letting these prisoners off easy need to think about if the person that got raped was their sister,daughter,friend... I have a feeling they'd change their minds about how the justice system should treat convicts.

haha, man i was watching forensic files the other day, and this bitch whos sister got killed said 'i was against the death penalty, but after he killed my sister i hope they give him the chair'

typical hypocritical liberal f.aggot

me personally, all the murderers/rapist etc. should be killed slowly and painfully by our justice system, but the liberal queers would keep that from ever happening
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: HTexan on March 19, 2008, 09:05:10 PM
canada sucks nuts ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: Matt C on March 19, 2008, 09:10:06 PM
You're getting confused about this, just like your sexuality. There would be far less appeals, all appeals go in at once, if they are all denied, your ass is dead. What part of that don't you understand?

This assumes that the system is not corrupt and the law is applied fairly.  The right to an appeal is an inalienable one and a check on the authoritarian power of the state.  People routinely find themselves in court for things they did not do.  I think you may feel differently if you were on death row.

I'm saying if dicks were tootsie rolls, you would know how many licks it takes to get to the center.

ROFL!  ;D
Title: Re: THIS is why I think the Death Penalty is wrong...
Post by: chaos on March 19, 2008, 09:17:02 PM
This assumes that the system is not corrupt and the law is applied fairly.  The right to an appeal is an inalienable one and a check on the authoritarian power of the state.  People routinely find themselves in court for things they did not do.  I think you may feel differently if you were on death row.

ROFL!  ;D
If I am on Death Row, I deserve to be there ;)


And there is no reason it should take years and years to get through all the appeals, fuck that, get them all in at once and get it down. Fuck checking authoritarian power, let them have at it.  You're not getting it, Matthew, Canada has no say, if they stick there nose in when I run the country, they'll be the newest addition to the US.

Any oil in Canada ???   ;)