Frank Zane or Lee Haney ?

[IroNat]

Zane asking Arnold for advices?

“What do you think I should do?” I asked the Oak. “You should go to Australia and defend your title” he told me. “You are training hard, are you going to compete?” I asked. “No, I’ll be there doing the TV commentary for CBS” he told me.

[The Scott]

That's the worst analogy I have ever heard, while Lee Haney was winning the Mr.O every year he hardly was featured on the cover of Weider's magazines while Arnold retired in 1980 yet was on both Flex and M&F covers few times a year.


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It is what I think is true.  Haney is no Coleman or Yates let alone Arnold.  This is a subjective pageant, nothing more. 

[Humble Narcissist]

That's the worst analogy I have ever heard, while Lee Haney was winning the Mr.O every year he hardly was featured on the cover of Weider's magazines while Arnold retired in 1980 yet was on both Flex and M&F covers few times a year.


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Purely money driven. Arnold on the cover sold millions which is why every magazine in the business had him on there.



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[joswift]

Same reason Bruce Lee was on the cover of every copy of Kung Fu Monthly long after he died

Bruce sold

[IroNat]

Young Zane.

[Pet shop boys]

Exactly

Don't tell this to Palumbo ....he even developed ' Palumboism"  with all the drugs he took



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[Pet shop boys]

Shawn Ray never won an Olympia , yet he was featured in more Weider publications than *8 X Mr.Olympia Lee Haney ....

Haney was charismatic, articulated had an ESPN show yet Weider treated him like a 3er tier Bodybuilder .



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[njflex]

Shawn Ray never won an Olympia , yet he was featured in more Weider publications than *8 X Mr.Olympia Lee Haney ....

Haney was charismatic, articulated had an ESPN show yet Weider treated him like a 3er tier Bodybuilder .



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YEAH...also ray was 'less' black ,goodlooking'no homo'

[joswift]

Shawn Ray never won an Olympia , yet he was featured in more Weider publications than *8 X Mr.Olympia Lee Haney ....

Haney was charismatic, articulated had an ESPN show yet Weider treated him like a 3er tier Bodybuilder but wasnt a homo and refused to suck Joes dick



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fixed

[Pet shop boys]

fixed

Lol ... I see a patern  there, both Sergio Oliva and Serge Nubret were practically canceled kicked out of Weiders umbrella for similar reasons



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[Humble Narcissist]

YEAH...also ray was 'less' black ,goodlooking'no homo'

He was a good looking man. No homo. I think he marketed himself better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

From Wendy leigh's book

[Humble Narcissist]

From Wendy leigh's book

Taking steroids at that young age probably increases hyperplasia which will benefit that bodybuilder the rest of his life. Look at guys like Arnold, Lee Priest, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, etc. Would those guys have ever been that developed had they waited until twenty something to start using?

[Pet shop boys]

Zane looks natural by today's standards...

Thats why he has the most desirable bodybuilding physique among all Olympians (Phil Heath included)


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[Pet shop boys]

5'9" 185 lbs

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[njflex]

Zane looks natural by today's standards...

Thats why he has the most desirable bodybuilding physique among all Olympians (Phil Heath included)


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great build...some of those pics are less 'conditioned'than his stage photos mro..or some slighlty downsized condition wise,his stage pics are still not attainable'natural/clean'i get what your saying his height/weight ratio attainable size but again condition no..

[Pet shop boys]

great build...some of those pics are less 'conditioned'than his stage photos mro..or some slighlty downsized condition wise,his stage pics are still not attainable'natural/clean'i get what your saying his height/weight ratio attainable size but again condition no..

Yup....

On stage condition he was flawless ...  and not attainable naturally by any measure ....  but still the poster boy for ideal physique .



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[IroNat]

Zane looks natural by today's standards...

Thats why he has the most desirable bodybuilding physique among all Olympians (Phil Heath included)


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No.  Only an unnatural natural could look like Zane.

[Donny]

Yup....

On stage condition he was flawless ...  and not attainable naturally by any measure ....  but still the poster boy for ideal physique .



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I don´t think he ever said he was a natty?

[Wiggs]

No.  Only an unnatural natural could look like Zane.

Just 100mg of Primo per week and 15g of DBol per day starring 8 Weeks out.  According to a cryptic poem he wrote.

[BigRo]

Obviously he took more than that.

[Wiggs]

Obviously he took more than that.

I couldn't began to guess what he took. By 17 he was 160 at around 10% bf. 8 years later and 25lbs of stage weight and maturity minus water so around 5 lbs. So and 185 at 4%. Which means he'd be around 202 at  10%bf. He's was 5'9 with an ectomorph build.

That said, he obviously didn't take much. Based on everything I know about him, he is very methodical and conservative. 

Since he did mention Dbol and primo. My best guess would be he never exceeded 25 mg of DBol per day 200 mg of primo. That's at most. I think he wasn't lying in that poem. Again, total guess.

These guys weren't drug monkeys like modern guys

[Wiggs]

From Wendy leigh's book

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