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i keep geting same question over and over about how profesional get and keep weight of 240 250 270 at 5'8 5'10 ,, i always answer this and yet i keep getting same damn questions,,
i have told you and i wlll say this again!
the only reason even centrfuny is 260 lb ....the only reason jef long is 40lb ,, the only reason korean jason duh is 260 lb ,, the only reason any of them can even reach 220lb! is CONSISTANT USAGE OF HGH ,, WHILE YOU USE 5 IU THEY USE 15-35 IU,, WHILE YOU USE IT FOR 30 DAY THEY USE IT FOR EVER,, WHILE YOU AFRSAID OF GETING COUGHT ...THEY DONT GIVE A FLYING BALONIE THEY ARE DRUG ADDICTS...THEY ARE NOT SCARD FOR THEY KNOW ITS ALL BALONIE AND NO ONE CARE ABOUT THEIR PRIVATE USE,,
THIS IS THE ONNNNNLY REASON THEY ARE WERE THEY ARE AND YOU ARE WERE YOU ARE..
THEY HAVE NO FEAR...THEY USE IT FOR YEARS OVER YEARS,, THERE IS NO! BREAKS,, THE USAGE IF ENOURMOUS,, IT IS FEW TIME A DAY HGH INTO BLOOD, LEGIT HGH,, IT IS INSULINA,, IT IS THIS THAT GET THEM TO BE HEAVY AND LEAN ....
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL,, THOSE FELLAS DO NOT GET OFF EVEN FOR A SECOND! THE ONLY THING THEY DO DIFF THAN YOU IS INJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT AND INJECT CONSISTANTLY AND WITH LEGIT HORMONES,, HIGH DOSES OF HGH AND INSULINA TO GET UP TO THE SUPER HEAVY ZONES
that is it ...no special nothing,, no special balonie,, half of them woudnt be a bodybuild in 80s and 90s,, they are EXACTLY LIKE YOU ,, hyper responders? some... but it is mainly RE S PO N D ERS TO LEGIT HIGH DOSE HGH AND INSULINA
gh15 approved
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Whats the difference in weight between pros in the 70s and current pros?
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50+ lb and les bodyfat on today profesionals,,it is ONLY due to hgh in high doses and the heavy weight is due to insulina ,, when i say heavy i mean 240+
the diff though is ONLY due to hgh and insulina no other diff
gh15 approved
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damn thats a lot of weight. So side by side anyone from back than would look tiny compared to a current pro. Comparisons like these must be grossly exaggerated.
(http://onestopmuscle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/flex93-serge78.jpg)
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...THEY DONT GIVE A FLYING BALONIE THEY ARE DRUG ADDICTS...
gh15 approved
lol!!
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costs a lot of $ to take 40 i.u.'s per day 365
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i guess gh and insulin is the answer to being huge n lean in todays world of bodybuilding
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Whats the difference in weight between pros in the 70s and current pros?
70's= No 3D effect
90's/above= All 3D effect because of GH/slin combo
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i keep geting same question over and over about how profesional get and keep weight of 240 250 270 at 5'8 5'10 ,, i always answer this and yet i keep getting same damn questions,,
i have told you and i wlll say this again!
the only reason even centrfuny is 260 lb ....the only reason jef long is 40lb ,, the only reason korean jason duh is 260 lb ,, the only reason any of them can even reach 220lb! is CONSISTANT USAGE OF HGH ,, WHILE YOU USE 5 IU THEY USE 15-35 IU,, WHILE YOU USE IT FOR 30 DAY THEY USE IT FOR EVER,, WHILE YOU AFRSAID OF GETING COUGHT ...THEY DONT GIVE A FLYING BALONIE THEY ARE DRUG ADDICTS...THEY ARE NOT SCARD FOR THEY KNOW ITS ALL BALONIE AND NO ONE CARE ABOUT THEIR PRIVATE USE,,
THIS IS THE ONNNNNLY REASON THEY ARE WERE THEY ARE AND YOU ARE WERE YOU ARE..
THEY HAVE NO FEAR...THEY USE IT FOR YEARS OVER YEARS,, THERE IS NO! BREAKS,, THE USAGE IF ENOURMOUS,, IT IS FEW TIME A DAY HGH INTO BLOOD, LEGIT HGH,, IT IS INSULINA,, IT IS THIS THAT GET THEM TO BE HEAVY AND LEAN ....
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL,, THOSE FELLAS DO NOT GET OFF EVEN FOR A SECOND! THE ONLY THING THEY DO DIFF THAN YOU IS INJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT AND INJECT CONSISTANTLY AND WITH LEGIT HORMONES,, HIGH DOSES OF HGH AND INSULINA TO GET UP TO THE SUPER HEAVY ZONES
that is it ...no special nothing,, no special balonie,, half of them woudnt be a bodybuild in 80s and 90s,, they are EXACTLY LIKE YOU ,, hyper responders? some... but it is mainly RE S PO N D ERS TO LEGIT HIGH DOSE HGH AND INSULINA
gh15 approved
bullshit. it's all diet and training with hgh as the finishing touch
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bullshit. it's all diet and training with hgh as the finishing touch
X2..
ITS
80% DIET
10% TRAINING
5% CARDIO
5% SUPPLEMENTS...OR IN SOME CASE SUPER SUPPLEMENTS.
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drugs are just the finishing touch. HGH is highly ineffective in my opinion.
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X2..
ITS
80% DIET
10% TRAINING
5% CARDIO
5% SUPPLEMENTS...OR IN SOME CASE SUPER SUPPLEMENTS.
agreed. this is a very similar sig to a "respected" member on some forum i think it's steroidology.com or some shit lol. Of course he looks like shit too but what do you expect
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agreed. this is a very similar sig to a "respected" member on some forum i think it's steroidology.com or some shit lol. Of course he looks like shit too but what do you expect
NO IDEA WHO U R TALKING ABOUT BUT HE'S PROBABLY JUST NOT GETTING IN PROTEIN AND CARBS IN THE PERI-WORKOUT WINDOW OF GROWTH. CANNOT MISS THAT ANABOLIC OPPORTUNITY. AND PROBABLY NO BCAAS IN THE DAY, CANT MISS THOSE.
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NO IDEA WHO U R TALKING ABOUT BUT HE'S PROBABLY JUST NOT GETTING IN PROTEIN AND CARBS IN THE PERI-WORKOUT WINDOW OF GROWTH. CANNOT MISS THAT ANABOLIC OPPORTUNITY. AND PROBABLY NO BCAAS IN THE DAY, CANT MISS THOSE.
LOL ;D
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NO IDEA WHO U R TALKING ABOUT BUT HE'S PROBABLY JUST NOT GETTING IN PROTEIN AND CARBS IN THE PERI-WORKOUT WINDOW OF GROWTH. CANNOT MISS THAT ANABOLIC OPPORTUNITY. AND PROBABLY NO BCAAS IN THE DAY, CANT MISS THOSE.
lol..good one..and lets not forget how they want you to spend your money not on 1 but 2 shitty types of protein, ,the slow digesting Casein before bed.
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the secret is and always has been Cell-Tech .. Adrain swears by this..... you saw his natural physique ;D ;D
::) ::)
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lol..good one..and lets not forget how they want you to spend your money not on 1 but 2 crappy types of protein, ,the slow digesting Casein before bed.
Oh, man, I remember buying cottage cheese in bulk and FORCING myself to eat a pack before going to sleep. That shit was disgusting but I thought I'd lose muscle overnight if I didn't down that shit.
Nowadays I have pizza before going to bed and I look 100x better. ;D
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Oh, man, I remember buying cottage cheese in bulk and FORCING myself to eat a pack before going to sleep. That shit was disgusting but I thought I'd lose muscle overnight if I didn't down that shit.
Nowadays I have pizza before going to bed and I look 100x better. ;D
I'm sure pizza is the reason why you look 100x better and not Cell-Tech huh .... ::)
(http://badasssupplements.com/images/uploads/E-M/Muscletech_Cell-Tech_Hardcore_6.7lb.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oh, man, I remember buying cottage cheese in bulk and FORCING myself to eat a pack before going to sleep. That shit was disgusting but I thought I'd lose muscle overnight if I didn't down that shit.
Nowadays I have pizza before going to bed and I look 100x better. ;D
GHona yourself to glory. ;D
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lol..good one..and lets not forget how they want you to spend your money not on 1 but 2 shitty types of protein, ,the slow digesting Casein before bed.
OH SHIT HOW COULD I FORGET. YOU NEED THAT MIX OF MISCELLAR CASEIN TO LAST YOU FOR THOSE 8 HOURS OF SLEEPING, WHEY PROTEIN TO GET YOU SATISFIED FOR THE NEXT HOUR. IDEALLY A 60-40 BLEND NOT 50-50. PERHAPS SOME HEALTHY FAT BECAUSE CARBS BEFORE BED WILL MAKE YOU FATTER.
BUT I DONT GO TO SLEEP....SO THATS ADVICE FOR YOU BRO.
HOPE THIS HELPS. :D
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OH SHIT HOW COULD I FORGET. YOU NEED THAT MIX OF MISCELLAR CASEIN TO LAST YOU FOR THOSE 8 HOURS OF SLEEPING, WHEY PROTEIN TO GET YOU SATISFIED FOR THE NEXT HOUR. IDEALLY A 60-40 BLEND NOT 50-50. PERHAPS SOME HEALTHY FAT BECAUSE CARBS BEFORE BED WILL MAKE YOU FATTER.
BUT I DONT GO TO SLEEP....SO THATS ADVICE FOR YOU BRO.
HOPE THIS HELPS. :D
lol,,,,,,,an industry based on lies to suck up all your hard earned money...fuck Herris , fuck Danta, , fuk them alll ..GH15 for president b-boy -Vice President..
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a guy like slimpimp to me is great to spit the truth. He is actually a huge mother fucker that also laughs at all the bullshit we hear in the bodybuilding/fitness industry. He is living proof that it's all one big joke
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lol,,,,,,,an industry based on lies to suck up all your hard earned money...fuck Herris , fuck Danta, , fuk them alll ..GH15 for president b-boy -Vice President..
did u use any of the products your sponsor gave you?
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So here's a questionona...is it all worth it?? As gh15 says,, not all pros make a lot of cashona from just competing and sponsor!! They sell and deal in drugs to make living!! Is it all worth the hassle of injecting and eating and traveling and the self consumed lifestyle?? Not to mention the g4p!! Along with looking over shoulder to see if Mr. Law is coming for him from the dealingona?? Just to let fellas look and judge him in only a few minutes on stage!! Some would say yes...some would say no!!
What you fellas thinkona??
gh15 please add your opinion also!! Love to here your opinion on this!! Would you choose a different "occupation" if you could go back in time??
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a guy like slimpimp to me is great to spit the truth. He is actually a huge mother fucker that also laughs at all the bullshit we hear in the bodybuilding/fitness industry. He is living proof that it's all one big joke
thanks man...yeah , it's all bullshit, a well planned approach of these supp companies and magazines to keep the public confused and wasting money on unneccesary shit...it's simple. ,,juiced up , add gh, workout ,eat ,rest and you will grow...beginner dont go too crazy at first , dont jump on 2 g of shit right away but climb the latter slowly id say ..600mgs ,then 850, 1000 and so on...get your bloodwork done regularly ,every 6 months or so ..and you'll be fine..drugs arent as bad as they want you to believe..steroids are great
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thanks man...yeah , it's all bullshit, a well planned approach of these supp companies and magazines to keep the public confused and wasting money on unneccesary shit...it's simple. ,,juiced up , add gh, workout ,eat ,rest and you will grow...beginner dont go too crazy at first , dont jump on 2 g of shit right away but climb the latter slowly id say ..600mgs ,then 850, 1000 and so on...get your bloodwork done regularly ,every 6 months or so ..and you'll be fine..drugs arent as bad as they want you to believe..steroids are great
Yup. The only things I still do...not because it makes a difference...but because it is easy and convenient, are a post workout shake (unlike i train before work in which case i have the shake AND food at the same time) and a bedtime casein shake. That's about it...I know it's not necessary though. Sometimes I'll do something else if I feel like it
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Never waste money of those appealing colorful tubs of snake oil, mega scam. Food is what makes you grow
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I blew all my money on celltech, then couldn't pay the bills and am in jail for tax evasion.
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I blew all my money on celltech, then couldn't pay the bills and am in jail for tax evasion.
:D
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but I went from 120lbs to 140 so it was worth it
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but I went from 120lbs to 140 so it was worth it
oh poor hardgainers :D ;D
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So here's a questionona...is it all worth it?? As gh15 says,, not all pros make a lot of cashona from just competing and sponsor!! They sell and deal in drugs to make living!! Is it all worth the hassle of injecting and eating and traveling and the self consumed lifestyle?? Not to mention the g4p!! Along with looking over shoulder to see if Mr. Law is coming for him from the dealingona?? Just to let fellas look and judge him in only a few minutes on stage!! Some would say yes...some would say no!!
What you fellas thinkona??
gh15 please add your opinion also!! Love to here your opinion on this!! Would you choose a different "occupation" if you could go back in time??
what do you mean diff ocupation ,, you born bodybuild you die bodybuild,, this is what we do ,, you think bodybuild do it for the money lol ,, even the rich among us which are few...even the rich who get top 3 dont do it for no money,, ask ron colman if he did it for the money ,, ask dex if he do it for the money ...he will laugh in your face ,, he do it for he is a bodybuild,, everyone has the thing that gets them going...bodybuilders hav eweights,, their body ,, ask any bodybuild AANY bodybuild what more importent to them ...their body and muscle or being rich ...every single one will say their body and ,,every single one! now if you can do money from it then you completely nailed it by the balls ,, and you can do good money ven if not mr o ...you can ,, fitness modeling give decent money ,, and suplement contracts if you are hooked up right,, but we dont do it for money that sfor sure
gh15 approved
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lol,,,,,,,an industry based on lies to suck up all your hard earned money...fuck Herris , fuck Danta, , fuk them alll ..GH15 for president b-boy -Vice President..
ha ha we wouldn't be in office for long... someone would kill gh15 just because of who he is, and then "nut job" would kill me caue they don't want another black president...LOL ;D
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ha ha we wouldn't be in office for long... someone would kill gh15 just because of who he is, and then "nut job" would kill me caue they don't want another black president...LOL ;D
Lol
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Had a "serious" conversation with evan c. at a show and expressed my frustrations about making it to the upper echelon of BB'ing and asked what I have done and what I need to do and explained what "I heard" other local guys doing "10iu gh, 1600mg tren, 1400mg winstrol, gram test, every anti-E at disposal etc....to prepare for regional/national show.......he laughed and said " I won nationals on 6iu gh, 750 test, tren and winny (did not specify dose). Said he is sure lots of reckless guys use more than they need, but he plays his own game. I woulnot have believed him with certainty if he hadn't said this "I swear on my beautiful newborn daughter".....that hit home with me and i believe the guy, i could see it in his eyes.......great, personable guy.
It let me know I may be on the right track....o
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This thread is full of the hardest of hardcore bb's.
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Had a "serious" conversation with evan c. at a show and expressed my frustrations about making it to the upper echelon of BB'ing and asked what I have done and what I need to do and explained what "I heard" other local guys doing "10iu gh, 1600mg tren, 1400mg winstrol, gram test, every anti-E at disposal etc....to prepare for regional/national show.......he laughed and said " I won nationals on 6iu gh, 750 test, tren and winny (did not specify dose). Said he is sure lots of reckless guys use more than they need, but he plays his own game. I woulnot have believed him with certainty if he hadn't said this "I swear on my beautiful newborn daughter".....that hit home with me and i believe the guy, i could see it in his eyes.......great, personable guy.
It let me know I may be on the right track....o
what is this obsession with asking pros about their cycles, what they injected when they won a certain contest, who gives a shit. like really what difference does it make what evan c used.
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I did not ask him......he responded with that. Interesting either way.
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Had a "serious" conversation with evan c. at a show and expressed my frustrations about making it to the upper echelon of BB'ing and asked what I have done and what I need to do and explained what "I heard" other local guys doing "10iu gh, 1600mg tren, 1400mg winstrol, gram test, every anti-E at disposal etc....to prepare for regional/national show.......he laughed and said " I won nationals on 6iu gh, 750 test, tren and winny (did not specify dose). Said he is sure lots of reckless guys use more than they need, but he plays his own game. I woulnot have believed him with certainty if he hadn't said this "I swear on my beautiful newborn daughter".....that hit home with me and i believe the guy, i could see it in his eyes.......great, personable guy.
It let me know I may be on the right track....o
Evan seems like one of the few guys that wouldn't bullshit you. At least from his interactions on MD.
Remember though, this isn't 6iu Generic blue top shit, and the test I'm sure was HG. Tren could have been high as well, same with the winny.
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SHGH
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Evan seems like one of the few guys that wouldn't bullshit you. At least from his interactions on MD.
Remember though, this isn't 6iu Generic blue top shit, and the test I'm sure was HG. Tren could have been high as well, same with the winny.
maybe true or not but it is possible I think with top quality gh and drugs and a decent dose of tren.
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He thought you meant daily
Had a "serious" conversation with evan c. at a show and expressed my frustrations about making it to the upper echelon of BB'ing and asked what I have done and what I need to do and explained what "I heard" other local guys doing "10iu gh, 1600mg tren, 1400mg winstrol, gram test, every anti-E at disposal etc....to prepare for regional/national show.......he laughed and said " I won nationals on 6iu gh, 750 test, tren and winny (did not specify dose). Said he is sure lots of reckless guys use more than they need, but he plays his own game. I woulnot have believed him with certainty if he hadn't said this "I swear on my beautiful newborn daughter".....that hit home with me and i believe the guy, i could see it in his eyes.......great, personable guy.
It let me know I may be on the right track....o
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So here's a questionona...is it all worth it?? As gh15 says,, not all pros make a lot of cashona from just competing and sponsor!! They sell and deal in drugs to make living!! Is it all worth the hassle of injecting and eating and traveling and the self consumed lifestyle?? Not to mention the g4p!! Along with looking over shoulder to see if Mr. Law is coming for him from the dealingona?? Just to let fellas look and judge him in only a few minutes on stage!! Some would say yes...some would say no!!
What you fellas thinkona??
gh15 please add your opinion also!! Love to here your opinion on this!! Would you choose a different "occupation" if you could go back in time??
It is not worth it! trust me bodybuilders should get a monthly check! its the most hardcore sport and none of them make shit for money. the shittiest white professional basketball player who sits the bench all night makes more than any Pro. Pro bodybuilders should earn way more money than Basketballl players or baseball players. they put it all on the line. but the sport is just not mainstream enough. dont fuck up your body for nothing! I make more than 90% of all bodybuilders. It's best to just get big as hell and work a good job and invest some money , start a business. that's what i did. and i make great amount of $.
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The effects of HGH and Insulina
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Had a "serious" conversation with evan c. at a show and expressed my frustrations about making it to the upper echelon of BB'ing and asked what I have done and what I need to do and explained what "I heard" other local guys doing "10iu gh, 1600mg tren, 1400mg winstrol, gram test, every anti-E at disposal etc....to prepare for regional/national show.......he laughed and said " I won nationals on 6iu gh, 750 test, tren and winny (did not specify dose). Said he is sure lots of reckless guys use more than they need, but he plays his own game. I woulnot have believed him with certainty if he hadn't said this "I swear on my beautiful newborn daughter".....that hit home with me and i believe the guy, i could see it in his eyes.......great, personable guy.
It let me know I may be on the right track....o
I can buy the test dosage, even the GH. But depending on how much tren and winny he used that is not a mild cycle at all. For what i know (from other competitors) he could've been using 250mg tren ace ED.
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I can buy the test dosage, even the GH. But depending on how much tren and winny he used that is not a mild cycle at all. For what i know (from other competitors) he could've been using 250mg tren ace ED.
You can`t fathom it because of the stupidly gigantic cycles that you see posted here on a daily basis.
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I can buy the test dosage, even the GH. But depending on how much tren and winny he used that is not a mild cycle at all. For what i know (from other competitors) he could've been using 250mg tren ace ED.
True, but he was expressing that he did not do anything close to some of the board rumors....he implied he was "off" when he guest posed which kind of added up as his stomach and low back was holding decent bf.....NOT water, but definite blubber. So he could have been honest. Remember this guy is a natural heavy-set, husky kid. here's the killer for you guys.....he said "why would you go from 750/week to 1500? You need to gradually max out at each dose before trying to jump up..........750....900.. .1200..etc..."
This is the way I always had thought was smartest, and he reassured me. Once again, he could have been lying, but i doubt he was.
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one of the biggest reasons i respect jason cutler (i laugh when gh15 calls him jason..LOL) is because he shot me straight back in the day, even though i had my head up my ass and thought bodybuilding was all about hard work and lifting heavy slag iron (yes i was blind). anyways he told me... AAS bla, bla, bla, doesnt matter that much take what your comfortable with, but TAKE AS MUCH GH AS YOU CAN AFFORD!
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That makes sense......
It seems to "unlock" potential that has been "dormant."
Thats my take....
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That makes sense......
It seems to "unlock" potential that has been "dormant."
Thats my take....
Agreed, like GH15 has always said--hGH is genetics in a bottle.
I'd love to hear how much growth Jay is/was using
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If you believe Evan Centopani won Nationals on those dosages than you deserve to be called gullible
That dosage will win your local show maybe lol
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If you believe Evan Centopani won Nationals on those dosages than you deserve to be called gullible
That dosage will win your local show maybe lol
Yeah in the first timers category. Evan telling a fib methinks
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If you believe Evan Centopani won Nationals on those dosages than you deserve to be called gullible
That dosage will win your local show maybe lol
Your local show?? You would have to be a piece of no genetic having pile of shit to need "G" for a rinky dink local show.
I am nothing special and have 6 overall state titles did not touch "G." Hardly a fluke. I PERSONALLY can believe Evan to a certain extent just from my own experience, and I know his genes are better than mine.
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--Also if he "fibbed" about swearing on his newborn baby Daughter on his Nationals win....then that S.O.B is no better than Craig Titus "the murderer." Swearing on your first born would be absolutely a retarded thing to say if you were not telling the truth lol
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all im saying is Evan was being coached by Palumbo when he won the nationals ::)
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all im saying is Evan was being coached by Palumbo when he won the nationals ::)
Right...palumbo advocates gram of test and 4iu.
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all im saying is Evan was being coached by Palumbo when he won the nationals ::)
so, zero HGH and 35 IUs daily of intramuscular water injections?
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so, zero HGH and 35 IUs daily of intramuscular water injections?
;D ;D ;D ;D you beat me to it...
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Agreed, like GH15 has always said--hGH is genetics in a bottle.
I'd love to hear how much growth Jay is/was using
To hard to hold back..lol
i heard from a "solid source'" .....that wolf uses 1, 10ml vial of test a day and kai used 36iu per day.....Hey different strokes for different folks. Hany has jay used syntherol in arms to keep up with phil why hany says phil used ZERO.
Doesn't this crap ever get old???
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How big was Evan when he won nationals? Don't most of us here preach lower test too? He very well may have been on like 750 of prop plus a metric ton of tren and winny. Along with 6IU quality GH(and maybe he left out some slin use?), I think it's possible.
On a side note, I have not heard of running tren and winny together even though it makes sense. Anyone try this? You could almost run the winny instead of masteron huh?
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How big was Evan when he won nationals? Don't most of us here preach lower test too? He very well may have been on like 750 of prop plus a metric ton of tren and winny. Along with 6IU quality GH(and maybe he left out some slin use?), I think it's possible.
On a side note, I have not heard of running tren and winny together even though it makes sense. Anyone try this? You could almost run the winny instead of masteron huh?
If im not mistaken, a very conditioned 238-240lbs.
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What you do not know is that Centopani was a chub chub with zero bb genetics .. all drugs baby all drugs
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What you do not know is that Centopani was a chub chub with zero bb genetics .. all drugs baby all drugs
100 % Drugs everyone just needs different amounts to get from A TO B!
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GH15 - Who you are isn't my concern, but to you and the rest of getbig, I do want to thank you.
I fell for the marketing shit of the Palumbo's, Gaspari's & Weider's of the world. I even fell for the overchurned out messages from the Arnold's, Ferrigno's and even the somewhat intellectual but nonetheless batshit crazy Mentzer.
When I first started working out at 18 years old, I thought I could be a bodybuilder. If I dieted right, I could be a Jay Cutler all natural. I had misconceptions about steroids, I though they were another path. but now I know they're the only path
Now I don't give fuck about any of that shit. The Insulin, the gay for pay, the schmoes, the calf implants. Fuck all that. It just isn't worth it for a shit plastic trophy.
The thousands of posts on this board and the staggering amount of knowledge are a tiny beacon of hope in this crazy, shit world. Every year the world gets colder, people get more hostile towards each other and the injustice that goes on is rampant. But you guys are all fighting the good fight and filling in the next generation to head towards a better pursuit.
While Craig Titus, Big Down Hill and Tom Prince might both be outliers - they really just are a representation of a life that most pros are lucky to dodge.
Again, thank you. Who knows how much more whey powder bullshit I may have bought without you guys. It's trenbolone, test prop, liquid egg whites, tuna & Reeces Ice Cream from here on in.
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You and me both man. I sometimes cry at the thought of how much money I wasted on supplements when I was natural, only to gain more fat/water.
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i realised this after a few yrs, i think for most people its a natural progression
i still laugh when i hear tiny tits in the gym raving about the new fad, beef amino's or such like
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i realised this after a few yrs, i think for most people its a natural progression
i still laugh when i hear tiny tits in the gym raving about the new fad, beef amino's or such like
or when trainers make their clients do all sorts of weird balancing exercises, like standing on one leg and doing bicep curls (lol)
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Fuck man, I remember spending HUNDREDS on supplements every month when I was 16-22 or so...
I could have halved that amount and ran legit hormones and been fucking pro when I was 28. Seriously, if I knew then what I know now I'd look like fucking Centopani...
Now I'm old.
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or when trainers make their clients do all sorts of weird balancing exercises, like standing on one leg and doing bicep curls (lol)
That shit makes me smile inside! Fucking dummies...
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thankfully...I...found.. .the...bible...early...m aybe...spent...$500...total...on...balonie...supplements...
now...it's...time...for...me...to ...mutate...into...a...b east...
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started training in 97...first training i saw a pics of nasser 300lbs..."i want to be like that" ... loooooooooool
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hah you guys are slow, I knew steroids were a huge part of the game even before I started working out (thanks to Rocky IV and that part where they shoot Drago in the delt, lol), thats why after a couple of years of training natural and building some base I started very fast with the chemical proctocol, by 17 I was proudly taking lots of dbols breakfast and all, good times, good times...
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hah you guys are slow, I knew steroids were a huge part of the game even before I started working out (thanks to Rocky IV and that part where they shoot Drago in the delt, lol), thats why after a couple of years of training natural and building some base I started very fast with the chemical proctocol, by 17 I was proudly taking lots of dbols breakfast and all, good times, good times...
I wish I was as smart as you man. I even started following the shit on steroid.com after a while, thinking all of that was truth (cycles, pct, other bullshit). Fucking took me FOREVER to learn the truth, which came from both here and personal experience
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I wish I was as smart as you man. I even started following the shit on steroid.com after a while, thinking all of that was truth (cycles, pct, other bullshit). Fucking took me FOREVER to learn the truth, which came from both here and personal experience
I know what I mean, thing is I always wanted to try those "anabolizantes", since I was a kid one of my dreams was to inject that stuff that would give me super powers and all, so I actually never wanted to avoid that path. I still remember the first time I used them, had just turned 16, bought some deca amps, it was hard the day before the injection I remember I couldnt sleep at all, I was so nervous, but ended up still injecting them the other day, and the rest is history ;D
and btw, Im not against supps, on the contrary, I use a lot of whey and etc. too
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I know what I mean, thing is I always wanted to try those "anabolizantes", since I was a kid one of my dreams was to inject that stuff that would give me super powers and all, so I actually never wanted to avoid that path. I still remember the first time I used them, had just turned 16, bought some deca amps, it was hard the day before the injection I remember I couldnt sleep at all, I was so nervous, but ended up still injecting them the other day, and the rest is history ;D
and btw, Im not against supps, on the contrary, I use a lot of whey and etc. too
see, I was always a pussy and thought steroids made you die upon injection like what the rest of the world thinks. That's why is took me 6 1/2 years of natural training and getting nowhere after the first two years before starting
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100 % Drugs everyone just needs different amounts to get from A TO B!
everybody needs a shitload bro...
just some use lower test...
but everybody uses shitloads of tren, eq/npp and hgh...
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see, I was always a pussy and thought steroids made you die upon injection like what the rest of the world thinks. That's why is took me 6 1/2 years of natural training and getting nowhere after the first two years before starting
but on the bright side, training more time as a natural really made you pay your dues man, according to your profile pic you are a best now, props!
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I think we all went through this early on before we realized the truth.
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Some punk ass newb starts a thread swinging off gh15's nuts and everyone cups his balls??? WTF has getbig become?
Wes? You too?
The ThunderDome is officially dead!
PIP :(
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Some punk ass newb starts a thread swinging off gh15's nuts and everyone cups his balls??? WTF has getbig become?
Wes? You too?
The ThunderDome is officially dead!
PIP :(
i dont hav enuts,, but...
i did sleep in the holiday in last night
aqnd my cock is good size,, who need nuts they can be average small no one give a fuck they disturbe walking anyway,, its all in the cock my friend
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how many time in past i told you ,, so many time i todl you i feel like the damn monkey in a kanya safari,,
i told you those fellas TWIST the truth,, its like the local gym fella in your local gymnasium come to train with jeans and pushing 5 plates each side of the bar and say wife wont let him juice...same exact thing on a biger level as in competetive level lol do you believ the local that push 4 -5 plates each side of bar for reps and say he is natural all walking dense 5'7 220 with gut of 38-40 inches...do you belierve him when he say wife dont let him use steroid? hell no you dont believe him cazuse he is a stinky old liar,,
same with us in the advance levels friends what evan DO NOT tell you is ...that those 6 iu of serostim were done for lonnnng time LONNNNG TIME none stop and then the 750mg of testosterona was like 2 gram for the gh accepted all of it and grew the fiber.... he doesnt tell you that he just throw numbers,,, even with that the numbers are higher ,, he doesnt mention that when testosterona is low anabolics are high and hgh is high ,, he doesnt mention trenbolona is integral part of bodybuild and a must ,, he doesnt mention the orals that replace the testosterona ,, and he doesnt mention insulina which is CULPRIT of work with hgh to get to today profesional level
in other words he BALONIE YOUR LOVELY BUTTHOLES yet not lie per say just TWISTING THE TRUTH!
gh15 approved
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Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
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GH15 - Who you are isn't my concern, but to you and the rest of getbig, I do want to thank you.
I fell for the marketing shit of the Palumbo's, Gaspari's & Weider's of the world. I even fell for the overchurned out messages from the Arnold's, Ferrigno's and even the somewhat intellectual but nonetheless batshit crazy Mentzer.
When I first started working out at 18 years old, I thought I could be a bodybuilder. If I dieted right, I could be a Jay Cutler all natural. I had misconceptions about steroids, I though they were another path. but now I know they're the only path
Now I don't give fuck about any of that shit. The Insulin, the gay for pay, the schmoes, the calf implants. Fuck all that. It just isn't worth it for a shit plastic trophy.
The thousands of posts on this board and the staggering amount of knowledge are a tiny beacon of hope in this crazy, shit world. Every year the world gets colder, people get more hostile towards each other and the injustice that goes on is rampant. But you guys are all fighting the good fight and filling in the next generation to head towards a better pursuit.
While Craig Titus, Big Down Hill and Tom Prince might both be outliers - they really just are a representation of a life that most pros are lucky to dodge.
Again, thank you. Who knows how much more whey powder bullshit I may have bought without you guys. It's trenbolone, test prop, liquid egg whites, tuna & Reeces Ice Cream from here on in.
Who the fuck are you?
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but on the bright side, training more time as a natural really made you pay your dues man, according to your profile pic you are a best now, props!
thank you, but I could have gotten to this point sooner had I not been steered in the wrong direction so long!
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gh15 helps a lot of young bodybuilders who want to be a pro so you have to give him his props, i just wish he would shut up and not speak about anything apart from bodybuilding.
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Send GH15 a pm, attention whore. Now kindly fuck off
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Some punk ass newb starts a thread swinging off gh15's nuts and everyone cups his balls??? WTF has getbig become?
Wes? You too?
The ThunderDome is officially dead!
PIP :(
Not me bro,just commenting on the topic.
Fuck that slime sucking,no good,noob bastard,I hope he gets raked over the Thunderdome coals for weeks before and if he is then accepted into the fold.
Furthermore,noobs should be castrated and then skull fucked by getbigs resident killers and thugs.
;D
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GH15 - Who you are isn't my concern, but to you and the rest of getbig, I do want to thank you.
I fell for the marketing shit of the Palumbo's, Gaspari's & Weider's of the world. I even fell for the overchurned out messages from the Arnold's, Ferrigno's and even the somewhat intellectual but nonetheless batshit crazy Mentzer.
When I first started working out at 18 years old, I thought I could be a bodybuilder. If I dieted right, I could be a Jay Cutler all natural. I had misconceptions about steroids, I though they were another path. but now I know they're the only path
Now I don't give fuck about any of that shit. The Insulin, the gay for pay, the schmoes, the calf implants. Fuck all that. It just isn't worth it for a shit plastic trophy.
The thousands of posts on this board and the staggering amount of knowledge are a tiny beacon of hope in this crazy, shit world. Every year the world gets colder, people get more hostile towards each other and the injustice that goes on is rampant. But you guys are all fighting the good fight and filling in the next generation to head towards a better pursuit.
While Craig Titus, Big Down Hill and Tom Prince might both be outliers - they really just are a representation of a life that most pros are lucky to dodge.
Again, thank you. Who knows how much more whey powder bullshit I may have bought without you guys. It's trenbolone, test prop, liquid egg whites, tuna & Reeces Ice Cream from here on in.
DIE YOU FUCKING NOOB BASTARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
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maybe someday we can celebrate christmas together and have god with us.
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In...prison...swalbls... .would...swallowballs...
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gh15 helps a lot of young bodybuilders who want to be a pro so you have to give him his props, i just wish he would shut up and not speak about anything apart from bodybuilding.
stupid americano whore
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Anybody with a new idea is going to be labeled a moron until that idea proves successful.
Having said that, this isn't a "new idea", this my friends is sucking up to gh15. To the author of this treatise on virtual wang smoking I proffer this suggestion.
Talk to "1", Bay and tbombz and they'll give you all the help on sucking cock (virtual and otherwise as Bay especially likes to wax rhapsodic about the number of PMs he gets from getbiggers that are fagcurious) you could ever want.
Shit, I'd bet Bay's nom de plume is all over airport stalls worldwide. He's a gay porch monkey eagerly awaiting his next feeding of Mananas©. "1" is ready, willing and more than sexperienced enough to show you how to shove a Coke™ bottle sized anything up your bum, and if we're to believe his prattling in recent postings of his, "like it". And tbombz? He's just waiting for anyone with a penis that's larger than him (no problem there) or better looking than him (again, no problem) to pound his dirt star into oblivion.
And as always so that everyone here knows it is I... islime is for assclowns and fuck that noise.
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"Marshdogg", oh brother, sounds like the kind of guy who brings his Sexy Clown costume and a bottle of salad dressing in his gym bag when coming to work chest with the boys, "just in case".
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Sometimes I wish I never learned the truth. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. All those Flex mags I would read cover to cover, force feeding myself chicken breasts/tuna(I still can't eat tuna till this day), and the thousands of dollars wasted on supplements :-X :'( Now I just try to educate ppl if I know them, but like I was, they wont listen. Oh well they'll learn.
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"Marshdogg", oh brother, sounds like the kind of guy who brings his Sexy Clown costume and a bottle of salad dressing in his gym bag when coming to work chest with the boys, "just in case".
LOL ;D
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Anybody with a new idea is going to be labeled a moron until that idea proves successful.
Having said that, this isn't a "new idea", this my friends is sucking up to gh15. To the author of this treatise on virtual wang smoking I proffer this suggestion.
Talk to "1", Bay and tbombz and they'll give you all the help on sucking cock (virtual and otherwise as Bay especially likes to wax rhapsodic about the number of PMs he gets from getbiggers that are fagcurious) you could ever want.
Shit, I'd bet Bay's nom de plume is all over airport stalls worldwide. He's a gay porch monkey eagerly awaiting his next feeding of Mananas©. "1" is ready, willing and more than sexperienced enough to show you how to shove a Coke™ bottle sized anything up your bum, and if we're to believe his prattling in recent postings of his, "like it". And tbombz? He's just waiting for anyone with a penis that's larger than him (no problem there) or better looking than him (again, no problem) to pound his dirt star into oblivion.
And as always so that everyone here knows it is I... islime is for assclowns and fuck that noise.
Reeves bringing HOF posts at a furious clip. Kudos my friend and to the OP, fucking owned!
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fucking...hate...noobs...who...think...they...can...come...to...OUR...thunderdome...and...post...without...having...been...subjected...to...homoerotic...activities...which...resident...asspirate...ghayos...loves...to...dish...out...
We all know that you are a dumb stupid retard but could try typing like a normal person so its not that obvious
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We all know that you are a dumb stupid retard but could try typing like a normal person so its not that obvious
His spacebar broke. Lots of broke mOfos out there that can't afford keyboards
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We all know that you are a dumb stupid retard but could try typing like a normal person so its not that obvious
kill...yourself...
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i hope its understod to all here that when i recomend high dose of hormones IF i do it is always on prime of gh ,, i hope it is understood by my pupils around world,, i hope you understood what hapen if you do not have gh in the blood and use higher dose testosterona,,
i repetedly say here over and over that the reason profesional is profesional is PRIME PRIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE of body with gh before and during intake of aas,, this prime wil be longer or shorter depend on many factor MAINLY AGE nd shape to begin with...estrogen levels to begin with many other factors
the primmmme of body with gh bring more igf...this igf SEPERATE YOUR SORRY ASS and seperate the muscle so later on they can growwwww from developing of new fibers from the inside out by aas.. the hgh itself lean you and give you 3 dimetnional aspect it brings a new dimention that need to be enhance by steroid,,
the usage of higher doses of aas like testosterona IS NOT NEEDED at all times it depend on the bodybuild and his lean muscle ,, some use high dose some dont,, no one of the fellas who use high dose testosterona with out gh look good,, NONE OF THEM,, they all look like a bloofy messs of gut and bulk ,,
so before you start using higher doses you need prime body,, primmme the body ,,
now,, priming the body with gh ...its nto 8 days lol ,, priming body is stages,,there are stages of priming the body ,, through thsoe stages you INCREASE DOSES ,, ofcourse gh has to be legit!! many use bunk balonie gh that is not legit ...but the ones who use legit gh need to prime their body atleast 4-6 weeks before thinking on increase doses,,
4-6 week on 5-10 iu gh ......250-300mg testosterona....ONLY THEN AFTER 4-6 WEEKS then you can take it up to 500 then to 750 then to 1 gram ,, oyu have to prime prime prime body and it take some time friends,,, also when you use ihgher doses of testosterona the gh doses wil have to be increased significatly im talking over 1200 mg a week of testosterona,,
so remember,, FIRST PRIMING THE BODY yes it can be done with aas in it too but first priming it and then! going all out ,, priming take time ,, priming is stages,, since bodybuild never get off hormones....we have all time in the world foro those stages,,
stages are period of times of gh intake ,, everything mesured by the time you are on gh and by the dose of gh you are on for! gh is the igf and igf is EVERYTHING that causes growth and seperation of cells and muscle ,, there is no other hormone than hgh that causes that,, the other hormones aas ...are only putting water into muscle and inbetween muscle and skin ...thats where it start thats where it ends
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gh15, why does masturbation cause my right pec to be smaller
did this ever happen to you?
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How could we not understand it.....you tell us everyday.........numerou s times a day! ;D
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where's tren ace
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HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE PRIME WITH GH BEFORE YOU ADD IN TREN TO SEE THAT NEW DIMENSION FORM?
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How could we not understand it.....you tell us everyday.........numerou s times a day! ;D
i dont know,, i hav e infantiles stil pming this every coupel day ,, same damn questions ,, its either they dont read bible or they just...i dont generation nothingness they just ask fo rthe sake of asking,,
in any case i keep saying this so they dont comer to me and tell me uncle gh15 you made me a boofy fatzo,, the water in the body and estrogen levels is very sensetive ,, in every male it is sensetive especialy when you sitkc needles in your ass...so! when you use testosterona make sure you have the damn hormone that make it all work and make sure you prime so you can realy iunrease doses and see growth and not see this nightmare of estrogenic mess that the ones who dont use gh see when increase doses of testosterona to high level
and priming take time! its not 4-6 days,, it is good 6 weeks and on 8 iu! on 4 iu even longer
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HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE PRIME WITH GH BEFORE YOU ADD IN TREN TO SEE THAT NEW DIMENSION FORM?
trenbolona and gh is like adam and eve,, trenbolona was made out of the gh rib,, it is twin hormones one if the brain one is the heart,, they can go along same time any time and ofcourse it is the only way to the top
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i dont know,, i hav e infantiles stil pming this every coupel day ,, same damn questions ,, its either they dont read bible or they just...i dont generation nothingness they just ask fo rthe sake of asking,,
in any case i keep saying this so they dont comer to me and tell me uncle gh15 you made me a boofy fatzo,, the water in the body and estrogen levels is very sensetive ,, in every male it is sensetive especialy when you sitkc needles in your ass...so! when you use testosterona make sure you have the damn hormone that make it all work and make sure you prime so you can realy iunrease doses and see growth and not see this nightmare of estrogenic mess that the ones who dont use gh see when increase doses of testosterona to high level
and priming take time! its not 4-6 days,, it is good 6 weeks and on 8 iu! on 4 iu even longer
gh15 approved
I`d hate to see your PM box. :)
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i dont know,, i hav e infantiles stil pming this every coupel day ,, same damn questions ,, its either they dont read bible or they just...i dont generation nothingness they just ask fo rthe sake of asking,,
in any case i keep saying this so they dont comer to me and tell me uncle gh15 you made me a boofy fatzo,, the water in the body and estrogen levels is very sensetive ,, in every male it is sensetive especialy when you sitkc needles in your ass...so! when you use testosterona make sure you have the damn hormone that make it all work and make sure you prime so you can realy iunrease doses and see growth and not see this nightmare of estrogenic mess that the ones who dont use gh see when increase doses of testosterona to high level
and priming take time! its not 4-6 days,, it is good 6 weeks and on 8 iu! on 4 iu even longer
gh15 approved
Clear language...like it!
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gh15, why does masturbation cause my right pec to be smaller
did this ever happen to you?
because when youre gripping with your right hand, youre getting so excited youre flexing your right pec. Over time this has caused uneven growth. So switch hands.
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so wouldnt my right pec be bigger
i mean, i can't be the only one with this problem. my right shoulder is bigger thab my left and my left pec is bigger than my right, and sometimes i do switch hands but this is hard to do consistently
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so wouldnt my right pec be bigger
i mean, i can't be the only one with this problem. my right shoulder is bigger thab my left and my left pec is bigger than my right, and sometimes i do switch hands but this is hard to do consistently
Oops I misread. ;D
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Ha Ha and I thought I had issues!
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maybe someday we can celebrate christmas together and have god with us.
lol
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so wtf gh fifteem. Ebery thread mow is you meed gh or meed to prime with gh to ebem look decemtly good.
so mike memzter. Framk zame. Mike kats all the old pros do you meed gh for that. Or is some type of phyisque possible om high dose steroids. Cause ur sayimg mow mot to use high dose steroids at all umless you habe gh.
few yrs ago all you eber talked about was high dose steroids mo gh you rarely talked of it.
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Cäräpascz
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cadavar...gh...
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cadavar...gh...
he says armold tried it
but omly armold really.
what about sergio. Segre. Memtzer. Did they use gh.... I'd like to kmow
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gh15...gave...guidelines ...for...how...big...one ...can...get...without.. .gh...all...the...bodybu ild...from...that...era. ..are...within...those.. .numbers...
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Serge only ate horse meat and did high volume, next.
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READ THE BIBLE!!
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gh15...gave...guidelines...for...how...big...one...can...get...without...gh...all...the...bodybuild...from...that...era...are...within...those...numbers...
he almost keeps chamgimg his mimd. Cuz he mow sayimg high doses do shit without gh. Yet before high doses build good phyqieus.
so its clear sergio olibe amd so om just steroids.
cause he just said all steroids do is imcrease water im the muscle makimg it soumd poimtless. Yet says gh is just fake muscle amd you will meber keep the size from it. So why use it for its fake muscle that ull meber keep.
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Tons of guys built great physiques on roids alone.....they probably didn`t weigh 300 pounds though. :(
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Where's assbruise? He would love this thread
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READ THE BIBLE!!
I habe mamy times few years old post. All bodybuilder meeds to be two himdred amd forty poumds is deca amd dbol.
tham its gh is what you meed without it ull meber be big. Keeps chamgimg his mimd. I wamma kmow what the fuck I meed here wthout it beim chamged im a few momths. Oh sorry you meed igf ome mow it actually is god
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Borrow this n from me, take this one too N.
Copy and paste it, Merry Christmas you twat.
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READ THE BIBLE!!
"RTB" : Read the bible
"RTFB": Read the fucking bible
"RTGDB": Read the god damned bible
Wes to be more efficient you gotta' start using acronyms for common sayings.
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Tons of guys built great physiques on roids alone.....they probably didn`t weigh 300 pounds though. :(
really wamt a sergio. Serge memzter size just wamt to kmow if steroids is all I meed. Wamt to get that size amy of there size. Tjam add timy bit of gh timy bit here amd there maybe a eightys look . Bodybuild for my owm mimd competitiom lol
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Borrow this n from me, take this one too N.
Copy and paste it, Merry Christmas you twat.
I literally laughed my ass off! LOL ;D
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"RTB" : Read the bible
"RTFB": Read the fucking bible
"RTGDB": Read the god damned bible
Wes to be more efficient you gotta' start using acronyms for common sayings.
"GYB": Got ya` bro
:)
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Borrow this n from me, take this one too N.
Copy and paste it, Merry Christmas you twat.
I do habe om screem keyboard but my thumbs are to big for it. I'm mot some fibe foot tem amd umder guy with small bomes lo. Meed dat dere keys
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Get a new keyboard, you douche bag.
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Get a new keyboard, you douche bag.
lol...it's...not...too...bad...on ce...you...automatically ...replace...m...with... n...in.your...mind...
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lol...it's...not...too...bad...on ce...you...automatically ...replace...m...with... n...in.your...mind...
O......K...............L.....O.......L............. ;D
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O......K...............L.....O.......L............. ;D
hey...wes....buddy...how ...you...doing...:D...
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hey...wes....buddy...how...you...doing...:D...
not....bad....my....brother..........Happy.....Holidays.......... !.............. :)
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not....bad....my....brother..........Happy.....Holidays.......... !.............. :)
same...to...you...my...a merican...amigo...
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same...to...you...my...american...amigo...
Thamks mro,have a happy mew year too! ;D
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Thamks mro,have a happy mew year too! ;D
yeah...maybe...then...i'll...have...this...keybo ard...fixed...hopefully. ..lyquid...will...do...t he...same...;D
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;D
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Dude pm me your location. I have an extra letter 'M' key laying around. Dont worry, its on the house.
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aw fuck I meant 'N' key.
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yeah...maybe...then...i'll...have...this...keybo ard...fixed...hopefully. ..lyquid...will...do...t he...same...;D
soom as my welfare check comes my friemd
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aw fuck I meant 'N' key.
backfired
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you and swalbr need to get together. he's missing his spacebar.
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Whats the difference in weight between pros in the 70s and current pros?
50+ lb and les bodyfat on today profesionals,,it is ONLY due to hgh in high doses and the heavy weight is due to insulina ,, when i say heavy i mean 240+
the diff though is ONLY due to hgh and insulina no other diff
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before he'd always fuckimg say deca dbol amd shit makes amy bodybuilder two humdred forty poumds. Mow he says ur mot gettimg to two humdred twemty poumds without lots of gh.
pissimg me off gh fifteem. Keep it up amd ima cut you off. Mo gh. I habe commectioms with lee priest amd omce lee says ur dome ur dome.
lee priest dome eberythimg for bodybuild.
masser dome mothimg.
thisll rly get him goimg
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before he'd always fuckimg say deca dbol amd shit makes amy bodybuilder two humdred forty poumds. Mow he says ur mot gettimg to two humdred twemty poumds without lots of gh.
pissimg me off gh fifteem. Keep it up amd ima cut you off. Mo gh. I habe commectioms with lee priest amd omce lee says ur dome ur dome.
lee priest dome eberythimg for bodybuild.
masser dome mothimg.
thisll rly get him goimg
Not the first time someones called out gh15 for his sudden change in "advices". gh15s Bible scriptures tend to become irrelevant after a while >:(
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Not the first time someones called out gh15 for his sudden change in "advices". gh15s Bible scriptures tend to become irrelevant after a while >:(
ya. I still beleibe him. The most part amd the total poimt of what he says. But before was all eq deca dbol etc. Mow its trem amd gh prime...
guess ima stick to his two thousamd amd fibe post amd see if that gets me old physique.
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ya. I still beleibe him. The most part amd the total poimt of what he says. But before was all eq deca dbol etc. Mow its trem amd gh prime...
guess ima stick to his two thousamd amd fibe post amd see if that gets me old physique.
NO!,, there is bodybuild 2 dimetnaionl and bodybuild 3 dimentional,,it concern age too!,,it also involve condition ,,
you just wont look like a modern bodybuild wiht out gh in blood ,, the end
if you are 18-24...yes you can pull it for a while if hgh in body is highest possible ,, but AGAIN the reason you have tony freeman now days is ONLY gh , ONLY GH ,, and the reason you see fellas who were not meant to be bodybuildrs becoming ones....is ONLY gh!
has anyone fo you fellas ever stook next to philsulina? do you hav ea clue how narrow thids fella was? he still is but...the hgh is what blown him from inside out and gav ehim the extra surface to look AVERAGE and like a male ...you hav eno clue how small philsulina is truly is ... he i svery very narrow fella,, put picture from his competitions when first started and you wont talk anymoe about genetic EVER
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i need pictures of you from before starting hormones and after ,, before and after friends,, the most remarkable pictures will be very famous ,, put it here if you can or pm gh15
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When is your website launching gh15?
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march 2012 ,,depending on the very very dedicated elf who is the brain behind it all
gh15 approved
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i need pictures of you from before starting hormones and after ,, before and after friends,, the most remarkable pictures will be very famous ,, put it here if you can or pm gh15
gh15 approved
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^ in before someone says you were on hormones in the before pic
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defnitley namat ,, pictuees of you will be very good,, but i also want fellas who ae not profesionals ,, i give getbig the chance for it is my home ,, everyone here is priority for me
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Will this be before or after Victor Martinez walks the streets of NYC a free man?
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sad thing is in another era you would be mr o runer up ,, noew day need to be reach and conected beyond belif,, you would wipe floor in the 80s,,also in 90s you would do very well
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Will this be before or after Victor Martinez walks the streets of NYC a free man?
after,, much after,, and i wasnt garntee victor go out with no trouble or stay in country i said they promiosed me to do eveyrthing they can ,, it ws one individual,, but webpage is garentee..only when it is 100% ready and it probbaly be march 2012
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^ in before someone says you were on hormones in the before pic
Yea, I was 15, 125 lbs and I have never seen a real gym in my life... Def on hormones... ::)
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sad thing is in another era you would be mr o runer up ,, noew day need to be reach and conected beyond belif,, you would wipe floor in the 80s,,also in 90s you would do very well
gh15 approved
Sadly it's 2012...but thank you anyways! ;D ;)
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Yea, I was 15, 125 lbs and I have never seen a real gym in my life... Def on hormones... ::)
YEah, i guess you missed the point of the post. way over your head
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i want picture of bboy,, i want picture of leaf bug,, i want picture of spice..not spice i forget his name fuck,, you knwo who he is top amatuer level,, i want picture of others here ...picture of no one but i need before pictures too,, picture of stavio,, picture of anyone from begginign and to the best he been ,, no matter if picture old still ok ,, as logn as it was you and nto someone you stole pictutre from
many more in thunderdome ,,
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and you can blur face...no problem ,, i dont thikn you need to but if you want you can blur face no problem
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lol steve changes his mind again about when he started to use steroids
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I can ask the wife to take some new pictures if this is what you were looking for. I might have an even more pathetic before picture if you can believe it... probably 10lbs scrawnier! :-X
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I can ask the wife to take some new pictures if this is what you were looking for. I might have an even more pathetic before picture if you can believe it... probably 10lbs scrawnier! :-X
YES!,, this is what i need,, IM PRE SIVVE!
this is what i need from all of you or anyone who want,, not only profesionals but amatuer too ,, any bodybuild out there
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What a legend, gh15! You're so smart! Take lots of drugs, lots! Great advice!
Learn how to fucking spell, you gimmick.
That is all.
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lol steve changes his mind again about when he started to use steroids
Haha, u again???
Started training in 1999, started gear in 2002...2nd pics 2010... 1999-2010: bigger difference, better transformation...right?
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once again threads merged....... ::)
so stupid
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once again threads merged....... ::)
so stupid
if i was mod, i would merge every getbig thread into one. then rename it with something that ends in "and more".
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YES!,, this is what i need,, IM PRE SIVVE!
this is what i need from all of you or anyone who want,, not only profesionals but amatuer too ,, any bodybuild out there
gh15 approved
is this good? :)
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yes very good,, need more,, just load it insted of my elfs need to go to look for it in picture board put it all here,, this is bvery good big bgi diff
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YES!,, this is what i need,, IM PRE SIVVE!
this is what i need from all of you or anyone who want,, not only profesionals but amatuer too ,, any bodybuild out there
gh15 approved
I can't post my before and after due to privacy issues (im all tattoed up) and its easy to recongnize me. BUT if i send you a before and after via PM you can post your comments in the general (WITHOUT THE PICS!!!LOL).
I'd like to know what to do/take to get me to the next level aka triple take from peeps "oh shit thats a bodybuilder!!!!" while i have no idea of competing i'd like to look like 8 weeks out year round. Deal??
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Whats the difference in weight between pros in the 70s and current pros?
Right click on the graph for detail
source: http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/bmi-bodybuilders.html
BMI Evolution of Pro IFBB Bodybuilders
In the early 90's bodybuilders have started to use human growth hormone (HGH), and soon thereafter insulin and IGFs, to further increase their muscle mass beyond levels that were obtainable by only using anabolic steroids (AS). To demonstrate the impact of the entrance of growth hormone and insulin into bodybuilding, I have gathered some statistics (peak performance year, competition body weight, and body length) of as many professional IFBB bodybuilders throughout history as I could find, and calculated their lean body mass index (BMI). The lean BMI is the best available parameter to estimate a bodybuilder's overall muscle mass independently from his body length. The data that I have used, and the body mass index values that I have calculated, are presented in the table at the bottom of this page. I also plotted the BMI-values versus the athletes' peak performance year into the graph below.
click to enlarge the figure
One can clearly see a trend break in the graph in the first half of the 1990's, when growth hormone and insulin entered bodybuilding. Before that period the BMI-values of bodybuilders were scattered around a nearly flat linear trend line with an average value of about 31. In the early 90's the average BMI suddenly increased by over 15% up to an average value of 36, and further increased gradually up to an average value of 38 in the years 2000, an increase by over 20% compared to the pre-HGH era. As the use of HGH, insulin and IGFs are further pushed to the limits by today's professional bodybuilders, we expect to see more and more athletes showing up with a BMI of 40 or even higher in the coming years. Currently about 8 athletes have a BMI of about 40.
Unfortunately there are no reliable body statistics available of true natural bodybuilders, who have built their physique completely without the use of any hormonal drugs. That is because the use of anabolic steroids became a common practice among top bodybuilders already before the first professional bodybuilding contests were organized in the 60's. However, everybody who knows the sport of bodybuilding well enough, knows that a similar increase in the BMI of over 15% is expected to be observed, if one would compare true natural bodybuilders with bodybuilders who have used anabolic steroids to build their physique.
In conclusion, one can fairly say that the lean BMI or body weight of modern professional top bodybuilders is more than 30% higher solely as the result of massive use of very potent hormonal drugs such as anabolic steroids, human growth hormone, IGFs, and insulin. This is more or less consistent with the observation of nowadays natural bodybuilding contests, where the BMI-values of the champions are usually closer to 25 than 30. It is therefore fair to say that today's top heavy weight bodybuilders have more than half of their lean muscle mass thanks to the drugs, rather than hard training and good nutrition. No, the steep increase of lean muscle mass among top bodybuilders since the 90's has nothing to do with better genes, better training, better nutrition or supplements. Unfortunately Ronnie Coleman does not come from another planet, as many of his fans would like to believe.
Let me finally try to estimate the lean BMI of a male person with optimal genetic potential for bodybuilding under different conditions of training and drug use, assuming that in all cases he has a body fat percentage of about 3% (= lean).
Training Drug Use BMI (3% BF)
Never trained Never 20 ± 2
Fully trained Never (true natural) 26 ± 2
Fully trained Anabolic steroids 31 ± 3
Fully trained AS + HGH + Insulin 37 ± 3
I also advice you to read this article on the maximum muscular bodyweight and size potential that can be achieved without using any anabolic drugs. It also comes with an interesting calculator that helps you estimate your personal maximum potential in terms of bodyweight and body part measurements.
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Table with BMI-Values of Pro IFBB Bodybuilders
Year Name Length (cm) Weight (kg) BMI Length(feet) Weight(lbs)
1950 Steve Reeves 185 97 28.3 6'1" 213
1966 Larry Scott 170 93 32.2 5'6" 205
1967 Dave Draper 180 102 31.5 5'10" 224
1971 Bill Pearl 175 100 32.7 5'8" 220
1973 Reg Park 187 102 29.2 6'1" 224
1975 Serge Nubret 180 96 29.6 5'10" 211
1975 Jim Morris 178 98 30.9 5'10" 216
1978 Kalman Szkalak 178 95 30.0 5'10" 209
1980 Arnold Schwarzenegger 187 107 30.6 6'1" 235
1980 Mike Mentzer 173 102 34.1 5'8" 224
1981 Franco Columbu 165 84 30.9 5'4" 185
1981 Ken Waller 183 104 31.1 6'0" 229
1982 Casey Viator 178 109 34.4 5'10" 240
1982 Dennis Tinerino 183 100 29.9 6'0" 220
1983 Frank Zane 175 84 27.4 5'8" 185
1983 Ed Corney 170 88 30.4 5'6" 194
1984 Chris Dickerson 170 86 29.8 5'6" 189
1984 Bill Grant 175 89 29.1 5'8" 196
1984 Boyer Coe 170 98 33.9 5'6" 216
1985 Sergio Oliva 178 109 34.4 5'10" 240
1985 Mohamed Makkawy 160 72 28.1 5'2" 158
1985 Danny Padilla 157 79 32.0 5'1" 174
1986 Jusup Wilkosz 185 115 33.6 6'0" 253
1988 Berry Demey 185 102 29.8 6'0" 224
1988 Phil Hill 173 102 34.1 5'8" 224
1988 Scott Wilson 178 96 30.3 5'10" 211
1989 Bertil Fox 178 107 33.8 5'10" 235
1990 Albert Beckles 170 99 34.3 5'6" 218
1990 Mike Christian 185 109 31.8 6'0" 240
1991 Lee Haney 180 112 34.6 5'10" 246
1991 Bob Paris 180 104 32.1 5'10" 229
1991 Rich Gaspari 173 102 34.1 5'8" 224
1992 Mohammed Benaziza 160 85 33.2 5'2" 187
1993 Lee Labrada 167 84 30.1 5'5" 185
1993 Lou Ferrigno 195 125 32.9 6'4" 275
1993 Flavio Baccianini 147 65 30.1 4'9" 143
1993 Ron Love 175 88 28.7 5'8" 194
1994 Samir Bannout 172 90 30.4 5'7" 198
1994 Porter Cottrell 168 88 31.2 5'6" 194
1995 Vince Taylor 175 104 34.0 5'8" 229
1995 Paul Demayo 178 114 36.0 5'10" 251
1995 Sonny Schmidt 178 109 34.4 5'10" 240
1995 Ian Harrison 178 117 36.9 5'10" 257
1996 Roland Cziurlock 173 102 34.1 5'8" 224
1997 Charles Clairmonte 180 112 34.6 5'10" 246
1997 Dorian Yates 178 120 37.9 5'10" 264
1997 Michael Francois 173 107 35.8 5'8" 235
1998 Jean Pierre Fux 180 117 36.1 5'10" 257
1998 Aaron Baker 173 107 35.8 5'8" 235
1999 Milos Sarcev 180 109 33.6 5'10" 240
1999 Paul Dillett 185 129 37.7 6'0" 284
2001 Shawn Ray 170 93 32.2 5'6" 205
2001 Mike Matarazzo 178 112 35.3 5'10" 246
2002 Flex Wheeler 175 104 34.0 5'8" 229
2002 Ernie Taylor 173 106 35.4 5'8" 233
2002 Craig Titus 173 110 36.8 5'8" 242
2002 Bob Cicherillo 183 109 32.5 6'0" 240
2003 Kevin Levrone 176 116 37.4 5'9" 255
2003 Lee Priest 162 103 39.2 5'3" 227
2003 Art Atwood 180 111 34.3 5'10" 244
2003 Nasser El Sonbaty 180 127 39.2 5'10" 279
2003 King Kamali 178 113 35.7 5'10" 249
2004 Darrem Charles 173 107 35.8 5'8" 235
2006 Chris Cormier 178 113 35.7 5'10" 249
2006 Gunter Schlierkamp 185 135 39.4 6'0" 297
2006 Dennis James 173 117 39.1 5'8" 257
2007 Ronnie Coleman 180 134 41.4 5'10" 295
2007 Jay Cutler 175 124 40.5 5'8" 273
2007 Victor Martinez 178 110 34.7 5'10" 242
2007 Dexter Jackson 167 100 35.9 5'5" 220
2007 Markus Rühl 178 130 41.0 5'10" 286
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/bmi.gif)
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Here's me
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A gypsy on a budget ;D
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The change that hgh and tren make
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The change that hgh and tren make
you lost color.. got fatter, and hold more water?? i don't get it... ;D
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Right click on the graph for detail
source: http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/bmi-bodybuilders.html
Hey thanks droppingplates!
Nice to see it all organised and put together in that manner.
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u mean the pros aren't on phil hernons fruit diet, peptides, and foolostin (or whatever it tested as) to get big? they dont eat coconut oil either and raw milk from uncle bills farm?
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you lost color.. got fatter, and hold more water?? i don't get it... ;D
Either your really stupid or your joking at the minute I find it hard to believe either. Obviously the first pic is the change smart ass
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Hey thanks droppingplates!
Nice to see it all organised and put together in that manner.
Welcome, it's amazing what added GH & slin can do. Arnold who?! ;D
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Ok DP, it's time to invite Joske to GB. We owe him an honourable membership... ;D
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Ok DP, it's time to invite Joske to GB. We owe him an honourable membership... ;D
Belgians are always welcome!
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Either your really stupid or your joking at the minute I find it hard to believe either. Obviously the first pic is the change smart ass
naah man i was not joking... i am really stupid.... ::) ::) ::) ::)
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naah man i was not joking... i am really stupid.... ::) ::) ::) ::)
I think that blackstrnogwat is vooral een beetje dom...
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I think that blackstrnogwat is vooral een beetje dom...
whahahah ja idd.... tja sommige mensen have no humor.... ;)
he will have an easy time here in the Thunderdome... allready melting down! hahaha!
his name says it all..
blacks tr bmw
he likes black trannies and picks em up in his BMW! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Here's about two months ago at 235 I believe. Not a big poster trying more to just shut up and learn ;D
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I can't post my before and after due to privacy issues (im all tattoed up) and its easy to recongnize me. BUT if i send you a before and after via PM you can post your comments in the general (WITHOUT THE PICS!!!LOL).
I'd like to know what to do/take to get me to the next level aka triple take from peeps "oh shit thats a bodybuilder!!!!" while i have no idea of competing i'd like to look like 8 weeks out year round. Deal??
Why bother sending pictures online if you're concerned about privacy? The way I see it is that ANY digital information (even if it's not bound to the internet) can be intercepted. If it's stored digitally, you've already compromised your security. Don't ever think that your information is safe because there are people that probably already have access to it.
Also, I think it's only drug dealers that should have something to hide personally. I talk about drugs all day long and have probably even made death threats, but I have nothing to hide. If you're worried about incriminating yourself, don't touch topics like this with a 10 foot pole. If DEA and other LEO were to come crashing into my house with riot vests and assault rifles they'd be disappointed with my gym rat stash.
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Here's about two months ago at 235 I believe. Not a big poster trying more to just shut up and learn ;D
your are wide...! lol! wide clavicles....waist could be tighter/more narrow. you hold a lot of water there...
up the tren, lower test ..you'd look a lot better without that water...my guess is you are on a decent dose of test, no?
can see abs.... you are about 9/10 % but a lot of water!
hgh 5- 10 iu's
tren 150 eod (startingdose)
test p 50 mg eod go from there....
eq 600 mg a week.
do that and you'll be 7% after only a few weeks...
throw the scale out of the window and go by mirror!
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Here's me
You look great Sev. Do anything out of the ordinary to get in shape? Cardio and diet, straight forward?
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I did not ask him......he responded with that. Interesting either way.
Not really. If I'm a pro and someone comes up to me and starts asking questions, the first thing I'm thinking is this guy is mic'd up with a hidden recorder. They make recording devices out of pens now for just a couple hundred bucks. Last thing I would want is to hear my voice on some retarded bodybuilding radio show telling someone I just met about what I take. Not happening. ;)
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To hard to hold back..lol
i heard from a "solid source'" .....that wolf uses 1, 10ml vial of test a day and kai used 36iu per day.....Hey different strokes for different folks. Hany has jay used syntherol in arms to keep up with phil why hany says phil used ZERO.
Doesn't this crap ever get old???
There are no "solid sources" of what anyone is taking. They are all liars and cheats. Every last one of them. They all down play what they take but in most cases use double/triple or in Lee Priests case, 50 times more than what they tell the world. When any non diabetic shoots needles into their body a dozen or so times a week, that person is not right in the fucking head.
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There are no "solid sources" of what anyone is taking. They are all liars and cheats. Every last one of them. They all down play what they take but in most cases use double/triple or in Lee Priests case, 50 times more than what they tell the world. When any non diabetic shoots needles into their body a dozen or so times a week, that person is not right in the fucking head.
tellin it like it is brudda
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your are wide...! lol! wide clavicles....waist could be tighter/more narrow. you hold a lot of water there...
up the tren, lower test ..you'd look a lot better without that water...my guess is you are on a decent dose of test, no?
can see abs.... you are about 9/10 % but a lot of water!
hgh 5- 10 iu's
tren 150 eod (startingdose)
test p 50 mg eod go from there....
eq 600 mg a week.
do that and you'll be 7% after only a few weeks...
throw the scale out of the window and go by mirror!
Thanks for the advice bro I will try that out as soon as I get all the required equipment! 8)
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^ not even close to 10% ,,he is right now in the 7% range ,, he just hold water,, this is 5-6 week out condition if right hormones in the system ,, he is much less than 10% with pump and full load of water he is maybe 8% over all 7%
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damn...slin...daddy...lo oking...good...nice...ro und...ass...too...just.. .the...way...i...like... it..mmm...mmm
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damn...slin...daddy...looking...good...nice...round...ass...too...just...the...way...i...like...it..mmm...mmm
bay...approved...
lol.
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lol.
just...kidding...bro...l ol...
looking...solid...though ...props...
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This guys a beast, don't let his laid back attitude fool ya
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This guys a beast, don't let his laid back attitude fool ya
speaking of beast...sadly for me im like 6 years older than you and you already own me , if not very close to do so in the size department...the sky is the limit for you ,youngun
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how...long...did...you.. .train...naturally...and ...how...long...have...y ou...been...juicing...sl inpimp?
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^ not even close to 10% ,,he is right now in the 7% range ,, he just hold water,, this is 5-6 week out condition if right hormones in the system ,, he is much less than 10% with pump and full load of water he is maybe 8% over all 7%
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Well thanks gh means a lot. What hormones do you recommend to get that condition?
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how...long...did...you...train...naturally...and...how...long...have...you...been...juicing...slinpimp?
at 22 , i did a winny only cycle ..lol...then did my real cycle after that 22-23 y.o...i wish id had started earlier ,tough....then kept cycling on and off until i was 27..took a break of 3 years ( personal shit ,carreer) and now ive been back on the juice for 7 months straight and will never get off..everr again,.,.for life
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at 22 , i did a winny only cycle ..lol...then did my real cycle after that 22-23 y.o...i wish id had started earlier ,tough....then kept cycling on and off until i was 27..took a break of 3 years ( personal shit ,carreer) and now ive been back on the juice for 7 months straight and will never get off..everr again,.,.for life
so you got in the shape in 7months? is this go around your first time using gh?
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This guys a beast, don't let his laid back attitude fool ya
and he got ass,, girls love ass many fellas dont have ass...this fella has it ,, girls LOVE good butt on man
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ummmm
no homo : )
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and he got ass,, girls love ass many fellas dont have ass...this fella has it ,, girls LOVE good butt on man
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all scar tissue :D
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so you got in the shape in 7months? is this go around your first time using gh?
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no ,no, my friend...my current shape is how i look in my avi...the pic where im in shape (red shorts) was back in 2008 (photoshoot ) .... I i have used gh before but first time around using 10ius + daily ever....Im glad I upped my dose.. ;D
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and he got ass,, girls love ass many fellas dont have ass...this fella has it ,, girls LOVE good butt on man
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lmao, they do brother.....oh they do .. ;D
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Stop it!!! you guys are gonna make me fall into the 10ius/day kigtropina, novotropina, thanktropina...whatevert ropina.
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Stop it!!! you guys are gonna make me fall into the 10ius/day kigtropina, novotropina, thanktropina...whatevert ropina.
what are you wating for....?? anything under 8 ius is a waste.. ;D
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what are you wating for....?? anything under 8 ius is a waste.. ;D
a month supply of novos @ 10ius costs the same as my 6 months supply of gear :o
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^ not even close to 10% ,,he is right now in the 7% range ,, he just hold water,, this is 5-6 week out condition if right hormones in the system ,, he is much less than 10% with pump and full load of water he is maybe 8% over all 7%
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are you serious gh?
i have him lean.... but 7%...???
he holds a lot of water i agree....
well sometimes it's difficult from a pic..
irl i always feel the skin on the belly area (no homo)
when it's water you feel it....the skin will stretch waaaaaay out... like a dogs skin... if you know what i mean.. dogs have that loose skin that stretches way out ... lol..
when it's fat, well it just sits there.... being ... fat!
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are you serious gh?
i have him lean.... but 7%...???
he holds a lot of water i agree....
well sometimes it's difficult from a pic..
irl i always feel the skin on the belly area (no homo)
when it's water you feel it....the skin will stretch waaaaaay out... like a dogs skin... if you know what i mean.. dogs have that loose skin that stretches way out ... lol..
when it's fat, well it just sits there.... being ... fat!
i'd say 10 pct or bit over but he's still in lean shape water will drop few pct down first,overall not dramatic work conditioning wise to do,good shoulder width and delt size,,needs to work on chest hard and arms could be bigger due to delts size,,good build .no leg shot's.
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let me check again i wil let you know,, wait a second
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8% night,, 7% morning inbetween 7 and 8 ,, he hold water thats it ,, under bely button there is not much fat,, his abdominal line is visible abs are seen not deep cuts but seen ,, its only water that he hold that give ilusion he is 9-10% but he is 7-8% ,, look like hgh water the type of water that within 4 week off hgh and higher trenbolona ....goes away and reveal ripped chizeled physiqe that last for about 2 months then start degrading if not adding hgh again into blood
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I'll toss up a leg shot later today. Optimus was right past couple months I've been mostly 1g test and 100mg a day dbol. Waiting on a good gh source and I'm stocking up big!
I think I'm right about 10% maybe just under. Much dryer in the am as that pic was taken late in the day. Also yea chest and arms need huge work cause my delts over power them both >:( any ideas to help with that? Thanks guys for all the knowledge I've gained too.
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Yea gh15 I haven't had gh in my blood for months! I'm looking for a good reliable source to stick with then I'm set.
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I'll toss up a leg shot later today. Optimus was right past couple months I've been mostly 1g test and 100mg a day dbol. Waiting on a good gh source and I'm stocking up big!
I think I'm right about 10% maybe just under. Much dryer in the am as that pic was taken late in the day. Also yea chest and arms need huge work cause my delts over power them both >:( any ideas to help with that? Thanks guys for all the knowledge I've gained too.
No wonder why you are walking fountain...
you srsly didn't use any ai/ae / gh along with that high dose of test and dbol?
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Shitty comparison pics, but it's all I got. First one I was 16 and had only been training 1-1.5 years, and trained for 5 years natty before hitting the supps. Second pic I was 22.
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No wonder why you are walking fountain...
you srsly didn't use any ai/ae / gh along with that high dose of test and dbol?
I used aromasin through it all but that will only do so much lol. And I just started the dbol a week ago just do you know.
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Shitty comparison pics, but it's all I got. First one I was 16 and had only been training 1-1.5 years, and trained for 5 years natty before hitting the supps. Second pic I was 22.
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lots of potential bro....... what was ur stack like in the second pic
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I used aromasin through it all but that will only do so much lol. And I just started the dbol a week ago just do you know.
dump the ai or anti e man....
only if you get gyno.. or extreme water retention...use them.
you need estrogen to grow....
water can be dealt with by lowering test.... adding hgh to match test doses..
masteron, and offcourse tren....
tren has a diuretic effect allmost.. TREN A that is ... tren E did not have that when i used it... strangely...
save the anti e's and ai for competition..... to reach extreme levels of shreddedness...
i never used either.... nor any form of pct.....
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dump the ai or anti e man....
only if you get gyno.. or extreme water retention...use them.
you need estrogen to grow....
water can be dealt with by lowering test.... adding hgh to match test doses..
masteron, and offcourse tren....
tren has a diuretic effect allmost.. TREN A that is ... tren E did not have that when i used it... strangely...
save the anti e's and ai for competition..... to reach extreme levels of shreddedness...
i never used either.... nor any form of pct.....
Isn't masteron used as anti-e?
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dump the ai or anti e man....
only if you get gyno.. or extreme water retention...use them.
you need estrogen to grow....
water can be dealt with by lowering test.... adding hgh to match test doses..
masteron, and offcourse tren....
tren has a diuretic effect allmost.. TREN A that is ... tren E did not have that when i used it... strangely...
save the anti e's and ai for competition..... to reach extreme levels of shreddedness...
i never used either.... nor any form of pct.....
Keep it coming bro every thing you tell me I'm writing down lol. Thanks optimus
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lots of potential bro....... what was ur stack like in the second pic
Thanks bud. Don't remember exact doses, but EQ, tren, mast, var, and gh. Very little test, less than 150mg/week.
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Thanks bud. Don't remember exact doses, but EQ, tren, mast, var, and gh. Very little test, less than 150mg/week.
how was your libido on that stack?
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how was your libido on that stack?
Absolutely fine.
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Looking damn good alpmaster.
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Right on the money.
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Thanks guys.
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whahahah ja idd.... tja sommige mensen have no humor.... ;)
he will have an easy time here in the Thunderdome... allready melting down! hahaha!
his name says it all..
blacks tr bmw
he likes black trannies and picks em up in his BMW! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Awesomely funny, no m8 with a good wife I don't need to use beemer for trannies, well only at the weekends ;D lol
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less than 7 months transformation :D , 20 years
using : propionato , stanozol , oxan , clen..
next year i will be 0n f1r3 for 30 weeks and will start do blast and cruise... cycling with tren and gh too :D
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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=abl9ty&s=5
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Isn't masteron used as anti-e?
thats bro science...Masteron doesnt work near as anti E..
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less than 7 months transformation :D , 20 years
using : propionato , stanozol , oxan , clen..
next year i will be 0n f1r3 for 30 weeks and will start do blast and cruise... cycling with tren and gh too :D
(http://i39.tinypic.com/abl9ty.jpg)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=abl9ty&s=5
Buon lavoro
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alpmaster you look amazing bro !!
So does most of the motherfuckers posting pics in this thread 8)
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Looking good stud but I can't believe you want to compare cocks with me ,haha .
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and he got ass,, girls love ass many fellas dont have ass...this fella has it ,, girls LOVE good butt on man
gh15 approved
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put the damn picture of alpha master again ,, i only see red x andf the italiano fella ....you got very good physiqe ,, impressive
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thats bro science...Masteron doesnt work near as anti E..
Not quite...
DHT definitely has anti-aromatase properties. However masteron is actually more anabolic, but stanalone could help estrogen problems.
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pic of me at age 23 right out of the US army (airborne). dieted down and was lifting hard, all natural at the time, I started with a good base like gh15 always says to ;) I was about 152 in this pic... (old pic, sorry)
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put the damn picture of alpha master again ,, i only see red x andf the italiano fella ....you got very good physiqe ,, impressive
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/jkaul4.jpg)
and thanks stavios
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and last year going into the NA's, i was about 215 here, from early on till today most of my size has come in my legs..LOL
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pic of me at age 23 right out of the US army (airborne). dieted down and was lifting hard, all natural at the time, I started with a good base like gh15 always says to ;) I was about 152 in this pic... (old pic, sorry)
thats a top phsyqie right there ,, better than 90% of profesionals now day ,,look how much detail in middle back and lower back
why are you not officialy a profesional already? how come dasty has contract with weider and you with physiqe 10 times better dont,, i dont get this ,, on one hand you got peter putnem a pro and dan hill a pro ...on other hand you got fellas who realy deserve pro card who dont have it yet,, this is fucked up
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and last year going into the NA's, i was about 215 here, from early on till today most of my size has come in my legs..LOL
this is a profesional infact a top profesional level physiqe and it deserve a contract! in the amatuer,, im very surprized weider hasnt ssigned you ,, its very strange ,, this is big time caliber physiqe
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natural wonder :o :o :o :o ::) :o
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/jkaul4.jpg)
and thanks stavios
yep,, this is also high level competitive physiqe,, we got some serious bodybuild on here,, much better than other sites,, fellas think there are kids here lol look into those physiqes....those are very high level bodybuild friends,, and the they kepe very good midsecions too
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ok. i hesitate to post these, because gh15 has accused me of lying before, and that pisses me off. first pic 1983 no drugs whatsoever. second pic aas but never tried gh or insulin (1995) third pic was my first run with 4 iu gh and very sporadic attempts at insulin (1999)
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chess315 transformation I know my afters not that good but I only used 1gram of test nothing else in that pic. I am also 6'1 prolly 235-240 in that pic. Was not bodybuilding per say just went to the gym did a few sets of heavy rows,benchs,deads and stuff like that. I expermented with a gh15 type cycle recently I didnt like it a lot. I think at my height the bloat from test is kinda welcome to fill me out more. Plan on adding gh in the next month and prolly 2grams of test. I feel like a lot of others I just dont wanna mess with progesterones and stuff. Not really fond of eq either so dont leave much.
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ok. i hesitate to post these, because gh15 has accused me of lying before, and that pisses me off. first pic 1983 no drugs whatsoever. second pic aas but never tried gh or insulin (1995) third pic was my first run with 4 iu gh and very sporadic attempts at insulin (1999)
What's your height and weight in each pic? And don't say that you don't remember man, coz all of us who are into this thing called "body-building" never forget that kinda stuff lol
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Looking good stud but I can't believe you want to compare cocks with me ,haha .
lol..it's resting to the side.. ;D..
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yep,, this is also high level competitive physiqe,, we got some serious bodybuild on here,, much better than other sites,, fellas think there are kids here lol look into those physiqes....those are very high level bodybuild friends,, and the they kepe very good midsecions too
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Thanks gh15. Wouldn't say high level physique... i'm really really narrow, got 12 year old girl clavicles lol. But thanks for the kind words, and everyone else who said too.
Some absolutely great physiques here too. Especially amazing genetics on bboy!
edit: what up sl1ce ;)
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Thanks gh15. Wouldn't say high level physique... i'm really really narrow, got 12 year old girl clavicles lol. But thanks for the kind words, and everyone else who said too.
Some absolutely great physiques here too. Especially amazing genetics on bboy!
edit: what up sl1ce ;)
um no ,, you have advance level physqe ,, one of the better ones i hav esen here,, with out any conection to width ,, the physiqe you have is of advance competetive bodybuilder atleast from the front,,this is not someone who been in the gymnasium for a year playing with weights,, this is someone who know his bodybuild
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um no ,, you have advance level physqe ,, one of the better ones i hav esen here,, with out any conection to width ,, the physiqe you have is of advance competetive bodybuilder atleast from the front,,this is not someone who been in the gymnasium for a year playing with weights,, this is someone who know his bodybuild
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Thanks a lot gh15. Got my degree in Exercise Science, and finishing 2nd in Sports Nutrition. With all the pharmacology courses I had to take for clinical work, and 8+ years of bodybuilding, I'm comfortable enough to say I know my stuff. But now if only I could get clavicle implants maybe I could score one of those shiny trophies from an NPC show ::)
I'm only 23 tho, maybe one day they'll be a way to get b-boy type wide lol
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Thanks a lot gh15. Got my degree in Exercise Science, and finishing 2nd in Sports Nutrition. With all the pharmacology courses I had to take for clinical work, and 8+ years of bodybuilding, I'm comfortable enough to say I know my stuff. But now if only I could get clavicle implants maybe I could score one of those shiny trophies from an NPC show ::)
I'm only 23 tho, maybe one day they'll be a way to get b-boy type wide lol
you have absolitly great potential ,, dont listen to the balonei from anyone,, better pecs is only thing ...your arms look gigantic and rest of you have very good proprtions,, you muscle bellies are good too,, you can get very far ,, and you are 23 which is straight out kid,, your physiqe is highly advance not somewhat advance but HIGHLY advance
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you have absolitly great potential ,, dont listen to the balonei from anyone,, better pecs is only thing ...your arms look gigantic and rest of you have very good proprtions,, you muscle bellies are good too,, you can get very far ,, and you are 23 which is straight out kid,, your physiqe is highly advance not somewhat advance but HIGHLY advance
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Thanks a lot gh15, encouragement is always appreciated.
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chess315 transformation I know my afters not that good but I only used 1gram of test nothing else in that pic. I am also 6'1 prolly 235-240 in that pic. Was not bodybuilding per say just went to the gym did a few sets of heavy rows,benchs,deads and stuff like that. I expermented with a gh15 type cycle recently I didnt like it a lot. I think at my height the bloat from test is kinda welcome to fill me out more. Plan on adding gh in the next month and prolly 2grams of test. I feel like a lot of others I just dont wanna mess with progesterones and stuff. Not really fond of eq either so dont leave much.
Dude,not many people ever need 2 grams of test,trust me on that.
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Thanks a lot gh15, encouragement is always appreciated.
You are your own worst critic which is a good thing since it means that you will always be trying to improve your physique until it reaches the standards that you`ve set for it.
You look great, but it`s a good thing to never become complacent.
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ok. i hesitate to post these, because gh15 has accused me of lying before, and that pisses me off. first pic 1983 no drugs whatsoever. second pic aas but never tried gh or insulin (1995) third pic was my first run with 4 iu gh and very sporadic attempts at insulin (1999)
Always impessive !!
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Thanks a lot gh15. Got my degree in Exercise Science, and finishing 2nd in Sports Nutrition. With all the pharmacology courses I had to take for clinical work, and 8+ years of bodybuilding, I'm comfortable enough to say I know my stuff. But now if only I could get clavicle implants maybe I could score one of those shiny trophies from an NPC show ::)
I'm only 23 tho, maybe one day they'll be a way to get b-boy type wide lol
Good job!
and don't worry too much about your clavicle width after all that's what you were born with, besides you are very symmetrical, defined and got a very good set of arms and quads.
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alpha master looks good,,,and bboy pro level body,even as a kid you could have cruised with that body forever and been best built in gym or neiborhood at 160 ,,but you had bigger plans props,,,
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bboy looks fucking great!!
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Bboy is a pro without a question. He's build is unbelievably great!
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Thanks gh15. Wouldn't say high level physique... i'm really really narrow, got 12 year old girl clavicles lol. But thanks for the kind words, and everyone else who said too.
Some absolutely great physiques here too. Especially amazing genetics on bboy!
edit: what up sl1ce ;)
what up ,son...this kid not only looks fuckign amazing , he is very knwledgeable as well....he knows his shit and like BiGHer he can go in this sport as far as he wants to
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Dude b-boy was nasty at 23. I'm curious to see what b-boy has to say on this. Did you decide to get your career and life started first before coming back to bodybuilding at a later time?
There are some big fellas on getbig. And people said everyone on here looked like shit. If we showed up at some of these shows, put these guys to shame and give a shoutout to getbig in the winners circle ;)
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and last year going into the NA's, i was about 215 here, from early on till today most of my size has come in my legs..LOL
lol..fucking freak of nature
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alpmaster is one of the few MD posters that speaks the truth every time
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alpmaster is one of the few MD posters that speaks the truth every time
^^^ another kiddo with great potential...post your pics ,bro
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i know one ifbb pro personaly and hes no olympia material, but 2-3gramms a week and 12iu gh daily is what he does.
also, never off.
havent talked to him about insulin use, though, so that i dont know.
you cant be off,, moment you go off gh you are done with bodybulld circa 2000,, you shrink so fast its nto even funny,, you lose all 3 dimentional aspect,, look at the joke call mr olympia now day ,, it is complete and uter joke
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First pic is 2008 after working out for almost a year and wanting to look like a bodybuilder. I was 5'8 170lbs 12-15% bodyfat i'd guess.
Second pic is from 2 months ago. I followed gh15's advice to the letter for 9 months. My first show and I qualified for nationals. 5'8 200lbs.
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you cant be off,, moment you go off gh you are done with bodybulld circa 2000,, you shrink so fast its nto even funny,, you lose all 3 dimentional aspect,, look at the joke call mr olympia now day ,, it is complete and uter joke
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for the average gym rat-if you go off GH do you keep any gains? or do you lose the fibers and gain fat -thx
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for the average gym rat-if you go off GH do you keep any gains? or do you lose the fibers and gain fat -thx
to the average anyone,, from profesiona down to mookey the retard,, it all the same
you take gh out of blood ...you start degrading,, now! you have WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY this is a window after usage of gh ,, it is short window of 3 months on average... in those 12 weeks you can up the trenbolona and look the best you ever looked,, BUT! after this 12 week many times after 8 week....you start losing so much quality and so fast that you question if bodybuild is even worth it in 2000,, now ...yes you wil still be big...but big with higher bodyfat...big with less lean muscle,, big with lower and lower and actualy no 3 dimentional aspect...
so while you may stil be big muscular fella...you wotn look even remotely close to when you were on hgh ,, and ohhh it is fucking depressing!
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What an amazing amino acid created by God lol it seems that AAS are almost secondary to gh these days. Wish I could include it in my test HRT but $ is tight at the moment. Maybe in a few years so I don't kill myself trying to get ripped. Thx for the info gh15. You explain to generation nothingness how it is happy new year
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First pic is 2008 after working out for almost a year and wanting to look like a bodybuilder. I was 5'8 170lbs 12-15% bodyfat i'd guess.
Second set of pics is from 2 months ago. I followed gh15's advice to the letter for 9 months. My first show and I qualified for nationals. 5'8 200lbs.
amazing job ,bro
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First pic is 2008 after working out for almost a year and wanting to look like a bodybuilder. I was 5'8 170lbs 12-15% bodyfat i'd guess.
Second set of pics is from 2 months ago. I followed gh15's advice to the letter for 9 months. My first show and I qualified for nationals. 5'8 200lbs.
Great transformation good luck
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amazing job ,bro
thank you man, i appreciate it alot. you look great in all ur pics. how much did you weigh in the red shorts pic?
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you cant be off,, moment you go off gh you are done with bodybulld circa 2000,, you shrink so fast its nto even funny,, you lose all 3 dimentional aspect,, look at the joke call mr olympia now day ,, it is complete and uter joke
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what would happen if I were to take phil's gh away for him, and steve kuclo's gh away from him a whole year none of this three months oh I'm off gh but Im still growing cause of windown of opptotunity, truly not let them touch a kit for a whole year. They had to compete in 12 months, deal is they can use all the steroid they want but no gh and no insulin. What would they be atnumbers wise? Wouldn't they still blow 90% of gym rats out of the water cause of their superior response to hormones?
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thank you man, i appreciate it alot. you look great in all ur pics. how much did you weigh in the red shorts pic?
thanks mang, 219-220 that morning .it was for a fitness pshoot...i wasnt that big
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thanks mang, 219-220 that morning .it was for a fitness pshoot...i wasnt that big
Good stuff. its always hard to tell how much someone weighs in pics when theyre in shape
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what would happen if I were to take phil's gh away for him, and steve kuclo's gh away from him a whole year none of this three months oh I'm off gh but Im still growing cause of windown of opptotunity, truly not let them touch a kit for a whole year. They had to compete in 12 months, deal is they can use all the steroid they want but no gh and no insulin. What would they be atnumbers wise? Wouldn't they still blow 90% of gym rats out of the water cause of their superior response to hormones?
neither woudl do bodybuild,, one would be fire department employee the other would do something else ,,but it wont be bodybuild,,
5'9 with out gh and insulina in system is maybe 185-195lb on stage in codntition if really blesses,,
6 feet...with otu gh and insulina ...maybe 205-210lb on stage ... but again no 3 dimentional
neither would do bodybuild,, they are all gh and insulina
they both would look very similar to leaf bug the way he look last year ,, if you think this is enough to do anything in the top ...then its a problem
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I love me some gh15 .....but claiming kid kuclo would be 185-195 without gh and insulina is absolute balonie to 30th degree.
Kuklo is good genetic guy with nice frame. Would still be mother fucking impressive without gh.
Phil still has africano muscle bellies, great insertions etc....he may not weigh as much but he damn sure would look great with just AAS!......you dont think tren acetate + phils muscle bellies wont be impressive ...? Foolish to think so.....
Ff
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sory my mistake,, i fixed it,, i typed fast ddnt pay atention
ofcourse 6 feet wil be more than 185lb on stage on steroids
its fixed now
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First pic is 2008 after working out for almost a year and wanting to look like a bodybuilder. I was 5'8 170lbs 12-15% bodyfat i'd guess.
Second set of pics is from 2 months ago. I followed gh15's advice to the letter for 9 months. My first show and I qualified for nationals. 5'8 200lbs.
Awesome transformation dude!!
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also if you se me type mistake dont afraid to corect it friends,, it was obviously mistake i made since i gave 5'9 200lb meant to write 185lb -195 lb and put it by mistake on the 6 feet fella...
my bad but dotn be afraid to cal me out on mistakes like that
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also if you se me type mistake dont afraid to corect it friends,, it was obviously mistake i made since i gave 5'9 200lb meant to write 185lb -195 lb and put it by mistake on the 6 feet fella...
my bad but dotn be afraid to cal me out on mistakes like that
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6'0 ideal would be dennis newman type look.
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also if you se me type mistake dont afraid to corect it friends,, it was obviously mistake i made since i gave 5'9 200lb meant to write 185lb -195 lb and put it by mistake on the 6 feet fella...
my bad but dotn be afraid to cal me out on mistakes like that
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Lol, that is some stupid joke. A 5'9er can be in the 200 range on stage with just lots and lots of steroids for sure. Conditioning maybe off.
210 + will ofc require GH
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Lol, that is some stupid joke. A 5'9er can be in the 200 range on stage with just lots and lots of steroids for sure. Conditioning maybe off.
210 + will ofc require GH
condition maybe off,, you wrote it yourself...
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Awesome transformation dude!!
appreciate the props wes :)
next time i compete im putting more money into gh. this was my first time using it and i was pretty much broke for my prep so i was running gh at 5iu starting 6 months away from the show(offseason) and then 10iu for a few weeks at the end, dropped it 2 weeks out. Next time im gonna do 5iu starting 6 months out from the show, then 10iu from 12 weeks out til 2 weeks out.
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this is me when i Started 18 yrs Old 5'7( 100lb ),... 6 Yrs training ( 4yrs bodybuild )200lb 5'9,... M sure i Wouldn't Have took too Long to Achieve this,.. As I Always Have come off cycle & LOST everything :(... If i Only Knew Bout Gh15 Before,... I wouldn't Have come off NEVA!!!... Ps; dont make Fun of my DreadLocks ;D
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this is me when i Started 18 yrs Old 5'7( 100lb ),... 6 Yrs training ( 4yrs bodybuild )200lb 5'9,... M sure i Wouldn't Have took too Long to Achieve this,.. As I Always Have come off cycle & LOST everything :(... If i Only Knew Bout Gh15 Before,... I wouldn't Have come off NEVA!!!... Ps; dont make Fun of my DreadLocks ;D
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Look great. Which drugs and dosage did u run.
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this is me when i Started 18 yrs Old 5'7( 100lb ),... 6 Yrs training ( 4yrs bodybuild )200lb 5'9,... M sure i Wouldn't Have took too Long to Achieve this,.. As I Always Have come off cycle & LOST everything :(... If i Only Knew Bout Gh15 Before,... I wouldn't Have come off NEVA!!!... Ps; dont make Fun of my DreadLocks ;D
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very VERY nice potential!
very
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It is not worth it! trust me bodybuilders should get a monthly check! its the most hardcore sport and none of them make shit for money. the shittiest white professional basketball player who sits the bench all night makes more than any Pro. Pro bodybuilders should earn way more money than Basketballl players or baseball players. they put it all on the line. but the sport is just not mainstream enough. dont fuck up your body for nothing! I make more than 90% of all bodybuilders. It's best to just get big as hell and work a good job and invest some money , start a business. that's what i did. and i make great amount of $.
It is not exactly a sport. There is no skill test, no agility required, no strength contest, and judging is simply based on aesthetics. As such, it is more so a skill of the right combo of drug usage/abuse and genetic response, then we can certainly call it a drug sport in that respect. Those who have the money win over the genetically gifted "athlete", if we can call them that.
There are actual sports where skill, agility, and strength is required on the field. BB can never fall in the same realm as national level sports, nor is it. Beauty pageants also diet, workout, and prepare year around for their competition with just as much dedication and determination, if not more. That does not make beauty pageant contests a sport. BB is simply a sub-culture of drugs - a small niche within the health conscious community.
As to the money, it simply has no mainstream appeal. We live in a culture where drugs are frowned upon. We pretend to put our national level athletes in front of congress and pretend to be the paragons of morals and ethics to the upcoming fucked up generation nothingness group. As such BB, is sport drug game (nothing more) that is the polar opposite of everything we are taught to do and think in our national culture. For the dreamers (as WW reiterates) - get a education - a good job - and treat BB as a hobby like you collected hockey cards when you were 10.
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The effects of HGH and Insulina
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/7ojFH.jpg)
BB may have grown by leaps and bounds with GH and insulin usage. But it cannot beat the nostalgia of yesteryear when guys like Arnold, Zane, and Columbu competed. Nowadays, we basically have 300lb bloated pigs on stages in the 3rd trimester with oxygen masks to breath normally, and pretending to be the epitome of aesthetics.
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less than 7 months transformation :D , 20 years
using : propionato , stanozol , oxan , clen..
next year i will be 0n f1r3 for 30 weeks and will start do blast and cruise... cycling with tren and gh too :D
(http://i39.tinypic.com/abl9ty.jpg)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=abl9ty&s=5
Quite the transformation there in 7months.
What dosages did you use and for how long?
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BB may have grown by leaps and bounds with GH and insulin usage. But it cannot beat the nostalgia of yesteryear when guys like Arnold, Zane, and Columbu competed. Nowadays, we basically have 300lb bloated pigs on stages in the 3rd trimester with oxygen masks to breath normally, and pretending to be the epitome of aesthetics.
x1000!