THATS why arnold is considered the greatest bbing personality of all timeno one comes close,lee haney seems like a great guy and vince taylor ect,but they would never be in movies or shaking hands with anybody else other than bbers.due to the freak factor they have/had,the industry is looked down upon due to the obvious,in arnolds time it was a california free spirit subculture,and considered cool and not some oddity sideshow.arnold knew from young age how to suceed.