Author Topic: Heath 2005 vs 2008 (Read 2707 times)

donrhummy · « **on:** March 10, 2008, 09:28:19 PM »

He is a LOT bigger, but I think he looked better as an amateur (the 2005 is from the USA contest). You can see his abs are pushing out in the 2008 pic and his obliques are MUCH bigger. He ruined his shape. Still, he gained an insane amount of muscle too!

chaos · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:29:46 PM »

Holy shit, look at how big his forehead has gotten!!

Stavios · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:33:28 PM »

the sad truth is that if he stayed with the 2005 physique, he would have never been muscular enough to win a small pro show

chaos · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:34:42 PM »

His midsection is going to shit as well, compared to the 2005 pic.

donrhummy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:35:33 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on March 10, 2008, 09:33:28 PM

the sad truth is that if he stayed with the 2005 physique, he would have never been muscular enough to win a small pro show

It's true. The IFBB's judging these days is very, very sad.

Matt C · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2008, 09:42:02 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on March 10, 2008, 09:33:28 PM

the sad truth is that if he stayed with the 2005 physique, he would have never been muscular enough to win a small pro show

True, but with the improvements he made by 2006 he was able to win two pro shows. There is no way he will continue winning more unless he continues improving as he has been. Phil is just doing what it takes, for better or worse. Apples and oranges I guess.

England_1 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2008, 10:01:00 PM »

Your 2008 pic is also in arguably the best lighting on the entire IFBB circuit. Use a pic from the ASC and I don't think he would look nearly as good. That being said, the current physique sans the midsection is much improved.

Spoony Luv · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2008, 10:03:39 PM »

Heath if your watching, take a good look at your head...And take a very good look at your buddy Jay Cutler's face...You sir are heading( in a hurry i may add) right down the same path...

Always remember that you are so much more then the man on the stage...The Arnold days are over forever...

The smart ones get out before its to late...The fact that you are reacting to hormones so well is not to be considered as a "good thing"...There is a danger that is far greater then any of the assholes in "the game" that are telling you....

In simple, STOP EATING THE CHEESE...You look great but truth is Flex Wheeler had a much better physique for bodybuilding and look what happen to him...

Riddick · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2008, 12:15:12 AM »

Quote from: Spoony Luv on March 10, 2008, 10:03:39 PM

Heath if your watching, take a good look at your head...And take a very good look at your buddy Jay Cutler's face...You sir are heading( in a hurry i may add) right down the same path...

Always remember that you are so much more then the man on the stage...The Arnold days are over forever...

The smart ones get out before its to late...The fact that you are reacting to hormones so well is not to be considered as a "good thing"...There is a danger that is far greater then any of the assholes in "the game" that are telling you....

In simple, STOP EATING THE CHEESE...You look great but truth is Flex Wheeler had a much better physique for bodybuilding and look what happen to him...

right on point! well said.

m8 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2008, 05:20:02 AM »

Angle, lighting, etc.

KillerMonk · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2008, 05:33:40 AM »

Looks much improved. His midsection still looks good.

Meso_z · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2008, 05:47:59 AM »

If hes careful, he will be ok.

gymguy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2008, 07:18:25 AM »

He is much improved since 2005. Good job, Heath. You the new king.

240 is Back · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2008, 07:25:06 AM »

Quote from: Spoony Luv on March 10, 2008, 10:03:39 PM

The smart ones get out before its to late...The fact that you are reacting to hormones so well is not to be considered as a "good thing"...There is a danger that is far greater then any of the assholes in "the game" that are telling you....

what danger?

rocket · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2008, 07:33:46 AM »

Chest didn't really get any bigger. Unfortunate - considering it is his weakpoint.

McFarland · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2008, 07:36:41 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 10, 2008, 09:42:02 PM

True, but with the improvements he made by 2006 he was able to win two pro shows. There is no way he will continue winning more unless he continues improving as he has been. Phil is just doing what it takes, for better or worse. Apples and oranges I guess.

Whereas Matt C would like very much to be Kai Green's grapefruit.

goldngunz · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:45:00 AM »

He has made vast improvements and thats what you have to do these days to compete and win. Big props phil keep it up, do your thing!

donrhummy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:14:19 AM »

Quote from: KillerMonk on March 11, 2008, 05:33:40 AM

Looks much improved. His midsection still looks good.

NO, it doesn't.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:30:41 AM »

midsection is expanding at a alarming rate, he should stop the insulin and gh now, its sad to say but the heath rollercoaster of hype - led by the likes of issac and matt c on here will be enough to keep him wining shows regardless of how he looks in the future, so why risk the gut?

Mazda323 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2008, 11:12:52 AM »

Improved... Drugs R&D

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2008, 11:14:23 AM »

You're showing a comparison of his worst or 2nd worst pose. Let's see some others.

donrhummy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on March 11, 2008, 11:14:23 AM

You're showing a comparison of his worst or 2nd worst pose. Let's see some others.

Everyone can feel free to post others but his altered most muscular (with one hand on his hip) is even worse. Like I said, he's got a lot more muscle, he just doesn't have as good flow/shape.

donrhummy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2008, 12:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on March 11, 2008, 10:30:41 AM

midsection is expanding at a alarming rate, he should stop the insulin and gh now, its sad to say but the heath rollercoaster of hype - led by the likes of issac and matt c on here will be enough to keep him wining shows regardless of how he looks in the future, so why risk the gut?

I don't know about that. He didn't do so well last year despite all the hype. Remember IFBB rules state that your gut must protrude and your obliques extend beyond the waistline to place in the top 3.