WHO Owns THIS Wonderfully Ripped and TWINKIFIED Physique.True Adonis Approved.

[dr.chimps]

You are making the FALSE insinuation that they "HAVE" to do this kind of work and totally thumbing your nose at the myriad who "CHOOSE" to do this work and who enjoy it.

Whatever you say, TA. Oh brother.

[tleilaxutank]

Depends on city regulations.

What do you mean, "depends on city regulations". We're talking about opinions on what the laws should be.

Should it be legal for women to publicly offer sex for money?

Escort services work well for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the barrier for entry (no pun intended).  That is you need to be employed by a company (albiet an illegal one in most states), need to be attractive, and in most cases free of disease and drugs. Most escort services have excellent protection for their prostitutes also.

This is a big difference between a heroin addict needing a score and wandering the streets of NYC looking for someone with 30 bucks and access to a public bathroom.


Do you think there should be a distinction betwen these two categories of prostitution?

[dr.chimps]

if you think this is a perfectly fine way to make a living, why don't you pimp out your girlfriend?

Well, that would put a face and a person in the issue. TA has reduced it to a wallet, a vagina and a statistical chart.  

[The True Adonis]

I don't feel apeshit...  or have any angst,either.

why can't we just have a discussion without someone accusing the other of being emotionally invested in it?

we don't agree, i can live with that .

You are ignoring the reality of the sutuation. yes it is true there are high priced call girls who work in an upscale environment, but at the end of the day they are selling their bodies too, just like the crackwhore.  they are fucked, paid and discarded.

if you think this is a perfectly fine way to make a living, why don't you pimp out your girlfriend?

I am trying to pinpoint just why you hold the position that you do and what part disturbs you.  Clearly it is not the sex, since you have no problem with a female or a male having sex as much as they want for free and you are not out on any rooftops calling for people to stop having sex for free or limiting people having sex.

So that leads me to believe the thing that bothers you is the fact there is money involved.  Somehow the monetary aspect really bothers you and I still cannot figure out why for you have not explicitly explained why this aspect troubles you.  You surely must have a reason. So what is it?

I support legalization of Heroin, but that does not mean I automatically have to go out there and start shooting needles. In fact, I would NEVER use heroin.  I do not want to deny someone else that right if they want to use Heroin, just like I do not want to deny the right for someone to make money off of their own body should they want to charge for it.

You see how that works?  

[MindSpin]

He is 6`3 180 lbs.

Approved.

He's doing side bends with a plate on each hand.  Does he not know they are counterbalancing each other?  I see this at the gum everyday...drives me nuts.

[CT_Muscle]

Topic: WHO Owns THIS Wonderfully Ripped and TWINKIFIED Physique.True Adonis Approved

Fruedian slip? 

[Ursus]

This threads direction hath changed.

[The True Adonis]

What do you mean, "depends on city regulations". We're talking about opinions on what the laws should be.

Should it be legal for women to publicly offer sex for money?

Escort services work well for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the barrier for entry (no pun intended).  That is you need to be employed by a company (albiet an illegal one in most states), need to be attractive, and in most cases free of disease and drugs. Most escort services have excellent protection for their prostitutes also.

This is a big difference between a heroine addict needing a score and wandering the streets of NYC looking for someone with 30 bucks and access to a public bathroom.


Do you think there should be a distinction betwen these two categories of prostitution?

As I said, I think regulated Prostitution works very well, but I do not have a problem if someone puts their own value on what they think their sex is worth.  After all, I don`t know many people who required all of their sex partners to have a drug test or knew their entire sexual history or what have you before engaging in casual sex. I think using a  little judgment of what girl you pick up in a bar or the price of whatever prostitute is charging  goes a long way.  Most sex is free so I think the same good judgment applies whether it costs or not.


My point of city regulations was made to the effect that if there is a red light district set up specifically apart and how the individual can operate in those areas.

[War-Horse]

This threads direction hath changed.

It needs some hot female bums to un-gay it.

[Palpatine Q]

I am trying to pinpoint just why you hold the position that you do and what part disturbs you.  Clearly it is not the sex, since you have no problem with a female or a male having sex as much as they want for free and you are not out on any rooftops calling for people to stop having sex for free or limiting people having sex.

So that leads me to believe the thing that bothers you is the fact there is money involved.  Somehow the monetary aspect really bothers you and I still cannot figure out why for you have not explicitly explained why this aspect troubles you.  You surely must have a reason. So what is it?

I support legalization of Heroin, but that does not mean I automatically have to go out there and start shooting needles. In fact, I would NEVER use heroin.  I do not want to deny someone else that right if they want to use Heroin, just like I do not want to deny the right for someone to make money off of their own body should they want to charge for it.

You see how that works?  

Yes i see how it works just fine.  but you are changing the argument here.  The original point was whether people who engage in said activities were druggies or damaged goods who were being exploited. this is universally known to be true, and you are holding up a few glamourized depictions of high class call girls as a counterpoint when that is not the reality of the prostitution industry.

  people are going to do what they are going to do. But i would bet that if your girl somehow got hooked on crack and wound up sucking cock at the local park-and-ride for drugs, you wouldn't be happy about it.  not that that would happen as your girlfriend probably has a strong moral compass but i think you see my point.

[The True Adonis]

Yes i see how it works just fine.  but you are changing the argument here.  The original point was whether people who engage in said activities were druggies or damaged goods who were being exploited. this is universally known to be true, and you are holding up a few glamourized depictions of high class call girls as a counterpoint when that is not the reality of the prostitution industry.

  people are going to do what they are going to do. But i would bet that if your girl somehow got hooked on crack and wound up sucking cock at the local park-and-ride for drugs, you wouldn't be happy about it.  not that that would happen as your girlfriend probably has a strong moral compass but i think you see my point.

I did not drag drugs into this, YOU did.  Drugs have nothing to do with Prostitution. Prostitution does not require or operate with the requirement of drug use since Prostitution is simply paying or charging for the act of sex.  No where are drugs a requirement.  Furthermore, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of DRUG users are NOT PROSTITUTES.  Besides, even if a prostitute was a drug user, so what.  One is not required to be a drug user and those seeking out a non-drug using prostitute can easily do so. 

Why are you not holding drug abusing people who have sex for free, which outnumber drug abusing prostitutes OVERWHELMINGLY, to the same standards?  If you are not holding these people to the same standards, then it is simply the Monetary aspect that is troubling you.

If you ARE holding these people to the same standards, then Prostitution is NOT your problem, drug usage is.

Why would getting hooked on crack automatically make you eligible to be a prostitute?  You see the huge errors in your argument?  You are arguing against Drug Usage for no apparent reason.

[Soul Crusher]

No, but the majority of prostitutes are most like drug abusers. 

You have to be the most out of touch poster on getbig not to see that certain behaviors feed off each other.

[The True Adonis]

No, but the majority of prostitutes are most like drug abusers. 

You have to be the most out of touch poster on getbig not to see that certain behaviors feed off each other.

How does paying or charging money for sex require drug usage or promote drug usage?

[The True Adonis]

No, but the majority of prostitutes are most like drug abusers. 

You have to be the most out of touch poster on getbig not to see that certain behaviors feed off each other.

That simply is an untrue statement based on no correlation.

Prostitution does not depend on Drug Usage nor does it require it to operate.

The Majority of Drug Users have Sex for free.  So are you saying that Drug Usage then attracts people to have sex for free?

[Soul Crusher]

How does paying or charging money for sex require drug usage or promote drug usage?

In your head maybe they do not, but in the real life experience of people who have witnessed these things, the opposite of what you say is true.

[dr.chimps]

You have to be the most out of touch poster on getbig not to see that certain behaviors feed off each other.

Agree. Drugs also help you to reconcile your life with back alley blow jobs and condomless anal sex.

[dr.chimps]

That simply is an untrue statement based on no correlation.

Prostitution does not depend on Drug Usage nor does it require it to operate.

The Majority of Drug Users have Sex for free.  So are you saying that Drug Usage then attracts people to have sex for free?

You're (intentionally?) conflating causality and correlation here. 

[The True Adonis]

You're (intentionally?) conflating causality and correlation here. 

Not at all. Prostitution and Drug Usage are separate issues and do not depend, survive or are required of each other.

The majority of Drug Abusers have sex for free.  Do you hold them to the same standard?

[The True Adonis]

In your head maybe they do not, but in the real life experience of people who have witnessed these things, the opposite of what you say is true.

Sorry, the facts and evidence just are not on your side.

You are doing nothing but making generalizations. 

This would be akin to stating, "The majority of bodybuilders use drugs". therefore "bodybuilding leads to drug use so lets just BAN Bodybuilding." Nevermind those who bodybuild with no interest in drug usage or anyone else.

[Palpatine Q]

That simply is an untrue statement based on no correlation.

Prostitution does not depend on Drug Usage nor does it require it to operate.

The Majority of Drug Users have Sex for free.  So are you saying that Drug Usage then attracts people to have sex for free?

not really. and again....I"M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.  most girls that have drug problems tend to fuck guys that have drugs, it's kind of a quid pro quo....pussy for drugs. I have seen it and  exploited the situation myself more times than i can count.  again damaged people doing morally bankrupt shit.

[The True Adonis]

not really. and again....I"M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.  most girls that have drug problems tend to fuck guys that have drugs, it's kind of a quid pro quo....pussy for drugs. I have seen it and  exploited the situation myself more times than i can count.  again damaged people doing morally bankrupt shit.

Again, you have a problem with drug usage.

[The True Adonis]

not really. and again....I"M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.  most girls that have drug problems tend to fuck guys that have drugs, it's kind of a quid pro quo....pussy for drugs. I have seen it and  exploited the situation myself more times than i can count.  again damaged people doing morally bankrupt shit.

I don`t see drug usage as immoral.

[The True Adonis]

not really. and again....I"M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.  most girls that have drug problems tend to fuck guys that have drugs, it's kind of a quid pro quo....pussy for drugs. I have seen it and  exploited the situation myself more times than i can count.  again damaged people doing morally bankrupt shit.

Explain to me how Prostitution magically creates drug usage or the desire to use drugs.  It doesn`t.

[Soul Crusher]

Explain to me how Prostitution magically creates drug usage or the desire to use drugs.  It doesn`t.

One does not create the other, but the two often times feed off each other and find each other. 

Girls turn tricks for drugs, etc.

Pimps offer drugs to girls instrad of money cause their hooked on drugs. 

Etc, etc.

When you finally one day move out of your little Leave it to Beaver world you will see the reality of what some of us are saying.

[The True Adonis]

One does not create the other, but the two often times feed off each other and find each other. 

Girls turn tricks for drugs, etc.

Pimps offer drugs to girls instrad of money cause their hooked on drugs. 

Etc, etc.

When you finally one day move out of your little Leave it to Beaver world you will see the reality of what some of us are saying.

You made my point.  One does not create the other at all, so it is useless to try and falsely correlate the two as they do not require mutual dependency to exist.