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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: sholtstraining on October 20, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
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I have your first Dvd collection Secrets of the Pros, I noticed that you use many training techiniques as well as exercises in the newer episodes of the fithshow hardcore,and fit show posedown,that are not on the older dvd's,Is there any chance of you releasing a newer version that includes some of your more recent techniuqes, such as one that would explain in depth your "creating anabolism during the workout theory", as well as videos of your giant sets, ETC.
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YES...I will...
Also - I am still up for ANOTHER FREE SEMINAR for all the bodybuilding fans...where I would explain IN GREAT DETAIL why training without specific supplementation is actually WASTE OF TIME...and WHY each and every one of you should reconsider few things before your next workout...
I am NOT trying to be different for the sake of being different...but being that I am 100% convinced in MY HYPERANABOLIC THEORY (specific supplemetation at specific times highly benefiting from hyperemia advantage...+ specific training) I am ready to defend it in front of all the experts or fans thinking otherwise...
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maybe you can film your seminar and broadcast it live over the internet
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Also - I am still up for ANOTHER FREE SEMINAR for all the bodybuilding fans...where I would explain IN GREAT DETAIL why training without specific supplementation Snake OilTM is actually WASTE OF TIME...and WHY each and every one of you should reconsider few things get out your credit card before your next workout...
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The signup url is here: http://www.wpse.com/milos.asp
It gets your email address so we can send you an announcement with the schedule.
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Definately "Sounds" like a winner 8)
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I have your first Dvd collection Secrets of the Pros, I noticed that you use many training techiniques as well as exercises in the newer episodes of the fithshow hardcore,and fit show posedown,that are not on the older dvd's,Is there any chance of you releasing a newer version that includes some of your more recent techniuqes, such as one that would explain in depth your "creating anabolism during the workout theory", as well as videos of your giant sets, ETC.
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I am still up for ANOTHER FREE SEMINAR for all the bodybuilding fans...where I would explain IN GREAT DETAIL why training without specific supplementation is actually WASTE OF TIME
OMG...
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I would love to attend but I am about 1800 miles away. :-\
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We could probably hook it up on YouTube. But since YouTube's limit is 10 minutes per movie, it'd probably be about 18 small movies (approx 3 hours would be my guess).
I still think it would be a good idea to do.
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YES...I will...
Also - I am still up for ANOTHER FREE SEMINAR for all the bodybuilding fans...where I would explain IN GREAT DETAIL why training without specific supplementation is actually WASTE OF TIME...and WHY each and every one of you should reconsider few things before your next workout...
I am NOT trying to be different for the sake of being different...but being that I am 100% convinced in MY HYPERANABOLIC THEORY (specific supplemetation at specific times highly benefiting from hyperemia advantage...+ specific training) I am ready to defend it in front of all the experts or fans thinking otherwise...
your all bullshit. but obviously some people are stupid enough to believe in all the pseudo bs.
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OMG...
You see...I am making myself available to discuss with all of you...show you...and THAN ask you if it makes sense...
What I don't have is time to write everything here...but I can spend few hours in my gym explaining everything and answering EVERY QUESTION to even biggest sceptics...
I claim: MY THEORY WILL BE ACCEPTED in just a few months and EVERYONE will start copying...as it already started (with NUTREX)...
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your all bullshit. but obviously some people are stupid enough to believe in all the pseudo bs.
How wonderful...
Exactly what is 'bullshit" or pseudo bs?
Care to join free seminar to find out?
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Just "Brush" the haters off. Good luck with your venture 8)
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We could probably hook it up on YouTube. But since YouTube's limit is 10 minutes per movie, it'd probably be about 18 small movies (approx 3 hours would be my guess).
I still think it would be a good idea to do.
maybe there's other alternatives that allow longer than 10 minutes out there
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Hey i've applied as much of the thoery as I could, and its working, so as far as im concerned.ALL HAIL MILOS, im must say that im more interested in actual tweaks and changes to exercises, (sissy squats on hack squat) and many other of your training secrets, as you and charles are the only ones I see in hundreds of training videos, making small changes and tweaks to many exercises as well as creating new ones,I seeing the same ol boring shit it wrkt videos,look forward to the new dvd series keep up the goodwork.
IF ANY ONE HAS SEEN "GETTING CUT WITH GLASS"n"THE SECRETS OF THE PRO'S"and "FITSHOW HARDCORES" you'llknow what new things im talking about.
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The signup url is here: http://www.wpse.com/milos.asp
It gets your email address so we can send you an announcement with the schedule spam you.
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Goatboy, are you going to make it to the seminar this time?
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Goatboy, are you going to make it to the seminar this time?
I don't live in southern California, so that would be a "no".
If Milos thinks this info is so great, why doesn't he video it and Youtube it? If he's that persuauive, it could do nothing but help his supplement sales.
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I don't live in southern California, so that would be a "no".
If Milos thinks this info is so great, why doesn't he video it and Youtube it? If he's that persuauive, it could do nothing but help his supplement sales.
I don't know....maybe he's working on that in between training competitors..
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I don't know....maybe he's working on that in between training competitors..
What's to "work on"? He's giving the seminar anyway. Have Garraeth stand there with a camera while he's doing it. Simple. ::)
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we're discussing this in this very thread. i suggested he tape it allready. pay attention
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we're discussing this in this very thread. i suggested he tape it allready. pay attention
Shut up, Blupo... the adults are talking here. >:(
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We could probably hook it up on YouTube. But since YouTube's limit is 10 minutes per movie, it'd probably be about 18 small movies (approx 3 hours would be my guess).
I still think it would be a good idea to do.
See if Ron will host it for you on Getbig. If not, maybe BB.com will.
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See if Ron will host it for you on Getbig. If not, maybe BB.com will.
I would say bb.com is the better option, they already taped the fitshow series over there..I don't see why they couldn't set up for the seminar.
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I would say bb.com is the better option, they already taped the fitshow series over there..I don't see why they couldn't set up for the seminar.
It wouldn't have to be done professionally... just have somebody video it with a camcorder, then upload the file to be hosted.
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It wouldn't have to be done professionally... just have somebody video it with a camcorder, then upload the file to be hosted.
If he's going t odo it might as well do it right and have it done professionally, broadcast live on bb.com...it will be better than the Olympia....
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im happy i can stick to water only while working out.
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Milos,
What is your record time for ruining a pro's physique? Do you think you can do it under a month, perhaps on bet?
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hhahahahha, so lets get this straight, if you drink Milos' drink during your workout you'll get bigger but if you have a big whole food meal filled with protein and quality carbs before the workout followed by a post workout drink and then a solid meal half an hour after that you're wasting your time and won't gain an ounce of muscle? ::)
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yeah its all bullshit, bodybuilding is no rocket science, either you have it or you don't. just train heavy with basic excersizes and eat quality good and stay far from that crap.
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hhahahahha, so lets get this straight, if you drink Milos' drink during your workout you'll get bigger but if you have a big whole food meal filled with protein and quality carbs before the workout followed by a post workout drink and then a solid meal half an hour after that you're wasting your time and won't gain an ounce of muscle? ::)
Yes, Snake OilTM is that anabolic! :D
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yeah its all bullshit, bodybuilding is no rocket science, either you have it or you don't. just train heavy with basic excersizes and eat quality good and stay far from that crap.
you're not exactly weak and stupid yourself, Mars.
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well i filled my frame up with quality muscle due the years of training heavy in my garage with old rusty basic weight and only eating pastas with eggs. this days we have to drink some special stuff during and after and before our workouts to get huge!!!!!!!!!!!! yess.
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you're not exactly weak and stupid yourself, Mars.
Criminal snake oil salesmen like Milos are the reason we need to close the immigration gate to eastern europeans too.
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well i filled my frame up with quality muscle due the years of training heavy in my garage with old rusty basic weight and only eating pastas with eggs. this days we have to drink some special stuff during and after and before our workouts to get huge!!!!!!!!!!!! yess.
hahahahhaa, maybe Milos likes to "stay anabolic", Mars.
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Criminal snake oil salesmen like Milos are the reason we need to close the immigration gate to eastern europeans too.
He's not a criminal... he's just a bit "misguided", that's all. Maybe he really believes that expensive amino acids will make a huge difference, even though common sense would tell you otherwise.
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it must give us dramatic results.
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i'm about to enjoy a nice amino acid filled chocolate milk.
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id like to fill other things now.
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He's not a criminal... he's just a bit "misguided", that's all. Maybe he really believes that expensive amino acids will make a huge difference, even though common sense would tell you otherwise.
Really? Milos Sarcev has never been charged, tried, or plead guilty to any charges here in the US?
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id like to fill other things now.
you're not exactly empty yourself stud.
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i'm about to enjoy a nice amino acid filled chocolate milk.
your love handles will enjoy it to! why not treat them to a gallon?
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your love handles will enjoy it to! why not treat them to a gallon?
nah i don't want to get cramps while i'm fuccking your sister.
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hhahahahha, so lets get this straight, if you drink Milos' drink during your workout you'll get bigger but if you have a big whole food meal filled with protein and quality carbs before the workout followed by a post workout drink and then a solid meal half an hour after that you're wasting your time and won't gain an ounce of muscle? ::)
Would you watch the broadcast on bb.com if it was free?
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If he's going t odo it might as well do it right and have it done professionally, broadcast live on bb.com...it will be better than the Olympia....
I'm going to vote for YouTube, but it's Milos' decision in the end. But I say YouTube because it will reach a much larger audience than either GetBig or Bodybuilding.com. And, because it will be archived (people can watch it at any time, over and over, and forever, link to it, embed it into blogs and social networks - MySpace/FaceBook, etc). And includes things like the whole account system, etc. So as we add new videos, we just add them to that one account and people can subscribe to that account and get alerts when new videos are added. Things like that make YouTube superior to bbing.com.
And it's a much more simple arrangement. No having to deal with a third party (Ron - not that Ron is bad, just another layer - or Bbing.com people). Or even pay them (bbing.com) to host and/or display it. And, there might be some nasty concessions that we'd have to give in to in order to get on bbing.com. Who knows. But it's better to be able to say we don't need them, we'll do it on our own, cheaper (free and w/ no strings attached) and at a better outlet with a much larger audience.
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I'm going to vote for YouTube, but it's Milos' decision in the end. But I say YouTube because it will reach a much larger audience than either GetBig or Bodybuilding.com. And, because it will be archived (people can watch it at any time, over and over, and forever, link to it, embed it into blogs and social networks - MySpace/FaceBook, etc). And includes things like the whole account system, etc. So as we add new videos, we just add them to that one account and people can subscribe to that account and get alerts when new videos are added. Things like that make YouTube superior to bbing.com.
And it's a much more simple arrangement. No having to deal with a third party (Ron - not that Ron is bad, just another layer - or Bbing.com people). Or even pay them (bbing.com) to host and/or display it. And, there might be some nasty concessions that we'd have to give in to in order to get on bbing.com. Who knows. But it's better to be able to say we don't need them, we'll do it on our own, cheaper (free and w/ no strings attached) and at a better outlet with a much larger audience.
So you would be in favor of someone with a camcorder recording it and posting on youtube....in 10 minute increments...
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How wonderful...
Exactly what is 'bullshit" or pseudo bs?
Care to join free seminar to find out?
There have been specific pre/post workout amino/carb drinks on the market for years already. Not trying to diss you just for the sake of it, but your theory isn't new by any means.
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yeah its all bullshit, bodybuilding is no rocket science, either you have it or you don't. just train heavy with basic excersizes and eat quality good and stay far from that crap.
Nobel Prize to you my friend...that definitely looks like some rocket science!!
So thats what BB is all bout rain?heavy,basic exercises whatever that is...and good quality food.
Funny thing is i see all you guys talking trash here about other people's methods but i have never seen none of you as i have never seen any IFBB pro doing what Milos hes being doing for this sport.
He must have a hard skin and a great passion for what he does.
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Nobel Prize to you my friend...that definitely looks like some rocket science!!
So thats what BB is all bout rain?heavy,basic exercises whatever that is...and good quality food.
Funny thing is i see all you guys talking trash here about other people's methods but i have never seen none of you as i have never seen any IFBB pro doing what Milos hes being doing for this sport.
He must have a hard skin and a great passion for what he does.
go play in traffic bitch.
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hhahahahha, so lets get this straight, if you drink Milos' drink during your workout you'll get bigger but if you have a big whole food meal filled with protein and quality carbs before the workout followed by a post workout drink and then a solid meal half an hour after that you're wasting your time and won't gain an ounce of muscle? ::)
I guess Arnold, Haney, Yates, Coleman and every other Mr O winner just wasted their time in the gym LOL
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So you would be in favor of someone with a camcorder recording it and posting on youtube....in 10 minute increments...
Yup.
And, oddly enough I like the 10 minute blocks. It makes it easier for someone with a busy schedule.
It's hard to fast-forward video feeds when you haven't downloaded the whole 100meg file already.
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I guess Arnold, Haney, Yates, Coleman and every other Mr O winner just wasted their time in the gym LOL
hahahhaha, exactly but you know how it is, that's old fashioned, any "smart bodybuilder" knows that the only amino's that are avaialable for ANY growth or energy is what you ingested 10 minutes prior, EVERYTHING ELSE is already used and completely gone. ::)
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Yup.
And, oddly enough I like the 10 minute blocks. It makes it easier for someone with a busy schedule.
It's hard to fast-forward video feeds when you haven't downloaded the whole 100meg file already.
Makes sense.....OK.......you bringing your camcorder? ;D
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There have been specific pre/post workout amino/carb drinks on the market for years already. Not trying to diss you just for the sake of it, but your theory isn't new by any means.
Just to add, Milos, how old is Biotest's Surge product? It's been on the market for MANY years and marketed with the "increased blood flow during training" theory.
Here's another product YEARS old:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/products.html
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Makes sense.....OK.......you bringing your camcorder? ;D
heh, no. I suck at videoing (is that a word? I'm not "video taping" because there's no tape... ???). I can hardly take clear pictures while we're lifting.
Milos knows people who are good at that. I'm sure someone will help.
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Just to add, Milos, how old is Biotest's Surge product? It's been on the market for MANY years and marketed with the "increased blood flow during training" theory.
Here's another product YEARS old:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/products.html
You did not read the ingredients on either KSN or the http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/products.html product. Otherwise you would have realized they are nothing alike.
Took me one glance to see this.
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go play in traffic bitch.
The squadafather the picture i seen from you speaks for it self so i ain't replaying to fat pigs.
so why don't you join some hulla hoop club and comeback here in 10 years you thong wearing Fatty.
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You did not read the ingredients on either KSN or the http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/products.html product. Otherwise you would have realized they are nothing alike.
Took me one glance to see this.
I don't agree at all. The "theory" is identical, that's the point. Increased blood flow + hyperaminoacidemia during training = growth. Milos' drink has free form aminos while the other is complete protein. You can find several pre/post workout free form amino products on the market if this is important to you. But that's just minutiae, the theory is exactly the same. There is NOTHING in Milos' product that is revolutionary or new.
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Van_Bilderass are yougoing to make it to the seminar? It would be cool for you to be able to "debate" live with Milos rather than over the internet.
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There are people in parts of the world that eat chicken feet and turkey necks all day and still managae to get a decent build. All this bullshit about eating the exact supplement at the exact time is a total waste of time for 99% of the people on this board and in the world in general, that because they train to stay fit and don't want to be walking behemoths.
Eating 500 grams of protein and sweating like a pig while writting things on a sketch pad because your body is getting pummled with copius amounts of artificail hormones isn't healthy. Plus anyone that has a "normal" job can't sustain that level of gluttony anyway, (eating 10 meals a day, etc..), that's why all these "professionals" get into selling dope, selling their bodies and other questionable "jobs".
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YES...I will...
Also - I am still up for ANOTHER FREE SEMINAR for all the bodybuilding fans...where I would explain IN GREAT DETAIL why training without specific supplementation is actually WASTE OF TIME...and WHY each and every one of you should reconsider few things before your next workout...
I am NOT trying to be different for the sake of being different...but being that I am 100% convinced in MY HYPERANABOLIC THEORY (specific supplemetation at specific times highly benefiting from hyperemia advantage...+ specific training) I am ready to defend it in front of all the experts or fans thinking otherwise...
Please explain to me exactly WHY you need 20 (exaggerating, I think) different exercises for the same bodypart again?
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Van_Bilderass are yougoing to make it to the seminar? It would be cool for you to be able to "debate" live with Milos rather than over the internet.
It's not possible for me to attend, live on another continent etc.
Honestly, he doesn't seem like the type of guy who you can exchange info with and have a rational debate with. This theory is like a religion to him, no changing his mind. A very proud man. :D
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Please explain to me exactly WHY you need 20 (exaggerating, I think) different exercises for the same bodypart again?
I thought you old-timers liked to hit the muscle from every angle, a few exercises for size, a few to "burn in detail and cuts" and so on?
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It's not possible for me to attend, live on another continent etc.
Honestly, he doesn't seem like the type of guy who you can exchange info with and have a rational debate with. This theory is like a religion to him, no changing his mind. A very proud man. :D
Maybe, but I think you are one of the few that could have a conversation with him, without meltingdown and having a fit....
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I thought you old-timers liked to hit the muscle from every angle, a few exercises for size, a few to "burn in detail and cuts" and so on?
You don't need 20 different exercises to hit a muscle from every angle.
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Milos is a smart cookie. He explained himself very well at the Olympia expo and I admit some of the stuff went over my head. I will suspend judgment on his ideas until I research it further.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2007mrolympia/18.jpg)
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10 minutes should be plenty to explain it. unless he's kiwiol. then he need 10 hours.
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Milos is a smart cookie. He explained himself very well at the Olympia expo and I admit some of the stuff went over my head. I will suspend judgment on his ideas until I research it further.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/2007mrolympia/18.jpg)
Start by checking some University studies and then take a look at some case studies from JAMA.
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hahahhaha, exactly but you know how it is, that's old fashioned, any "smart bodybuilder" knows that the only amino's that are avaialable for ANY growth or energy is what you ingested 10 minutes prior, EVERYTHING ELSE is already used and completely gone. ::)
Hahaha.
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Milos' nutritional principles are sound. And if it weren't for advances in sports nutrition you guys would still be downing gallons of whole milk and a dozen eggs pre and post workout!!! :o
The fact that any of you even know of the importance of nutrition as it relates to muscle growth/ performance is due to research and advancements in this field. ;)
The problem that Milos WILL have, is that he's going to have to decide if he's looking to better the average bodybuilder or sell his products. :-\
The moment he says that you can ONLY get these gains from his products....everything he says after that will be to closed ears. Therein lies the problem, once he shows the principles of amino acid use, sugars etc. everyone will find a "cheaper" way to do it...and his sales will go down.
What to do...what to do ???
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Please explain to me exactly WHY you need 20 (exaggerating, I think) different exercises for the same bodypart again?
Please explain to me exactly WHY are you setting the LIMITS?
Do you need ONE exercise for the bodypart...More...or less ( ;D)...?
Do you need MORE studies to read after you have already read one...(as you claim you read so many...)
etc...etc...etc
What happened with ACCEPT NO LIMITATIONS AS A LIMITATION?
I live by that rule all my life...
I hope that answers the question...if not: IF I DO SOMETHING I WILL EITHER DO IT 100% OR NOT AT ALL...THE BEST POSSIBLE OR NOT AT ALL...
I did only 20 exercises that day - so I could improve next time around...
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Start by checking some University studies and then take a look at some case studies from JAMA.
Coach - you are becoming painful to listen...
Here is an idea: take some textbooks of physiology, biochemistry and nutrition before you continue reading abstracts of whatever studies published on JAMA, Medline...or whatever else...
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It's not possible for me to attend, live on another continent etc.
Honestly, he doesn't seem like the type of guy who you can exchange info with and have a rational debate with. This theory is like a religion to him, no changing his mind. A very proud man. :D
I am very open minded and listen, read, observe...LEARN something new every day...
Have NO EGO whatsoever...but also know that grass is green and sky is blue... so when someone tries to change my mind on facts - I just tell them to open their eyes...
YES, I am 100% certain in my theory...and I am passionately explaining to everyone who wants to listen...
Also, I am considering other theories as well...
So, by all means - come to seminar and express your opinions (I LOVE difference of opinions - as it usually brings great debates...and we all learn from it)...
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I am very open minded and listen, read, observe...LEARN something new every day...
Have NO EGO whatsoever...but also know that grass is green and sky is blue... so when someone tries to change my mind on facts - I just tell them to open their eyes...
YES, I am 100% certain in my theory...and I am passionately explaining to everyone who wants to listen...
Also, I am considering other theories as well...
So, by all means - come to seminar and express your opinions (I LOVE difference of opinions - as it usually brings great debates...and we all learn from it)...
Speaking of your seminar, Milos, do you have an isea of when you would like to have it, I think December was discussed earlier in the year after your last one....
When is good for you?
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There is a sign up thread on the Training Log Board courtesy of Garraeth.
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There is a sign up thread on the Training Log Board courtesy of Garraeth.
cap, I've signed up on that thread as well as garraeths site, I'm just wondering if Milos has decided on an exact date/weekend, I'm local but some people may need to schedule around it ;)