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NFL Combine
« on: February 23, 2014, 08:59:51 AM »
Anyone else watching? Manziel 4:56 40. Good for a QB.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 09:02:05 AM »
Coach, how did they arrive at using 225 as the standard bench press test?

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 09:02:24 AM »
They are doing crossfit now.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 09:14:42 AM »
Coach, how did they arrive at using 225 as the standard bench press test?

Its a good round number.... not too heavy, not too light.  Not the best indicator of upper body strength but good enough

Blake Bortles isn't looking very good when passing...mediocre accuracy.  I wish they made all QBs throw at the combine

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 09:19:46 AM »
Coach, how did they arrive at using 225 as the standard bench press test?
Because its 100 kg?

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 09:21:22 AM »
Coach, how did they arrive at using 225 as the standard bench press test?

Basically they did a study taking so many players from different schools based off their 1RM.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 09:22:04 AM »
Anyone else watching? Manziel 4:56 40. Good for a QB.

hard to believe luck ran a faster time at 30 pounds more :o

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 09:23:10 AM »
Has there been any NFL players that bombed the Bench Press, like getting only 2-4 reps of 225?

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 09:23:36 AM »
hard to believe luck ran a faster time at 30 pounds more :o

Oh really

I didn't know Luck was fast.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 09:33:08 AM »
Tyrann Mathieu known as the "honey badger" plays for the Arizona. Last year at the combine he only got 4 reps with 225. I've heard guys on the field tell him that their girlfriends bench more than him.lol

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 09:35:35 AM »
Has there been any NFL players that bombed the Bench Press, like getting only 2-4 reps of 225?
yea , a lot of corners and safetys do but they rely mostly on speed and being able to cue in on the qbs eyes

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 09:50:19 AM »
Tyrann Mathieu known as the "honey badger" plays for the Arizona. Last year at the combine he only got 4 reps with 225. I've heard guys on the field tell him that their girlfriends bench more than him.lol

That's true - but actually there have been quite a few DB's not test well on bench. Matthieu has a rare gift though and he is as fast as greased owl sh** . The lil dude can make plays

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 10:43:58 AM »
Its a good round number.... not too heavy, not too light.  Not the best indicator of upper body strength but good enough

Blake Bortles isn't looking very good when passing...mediocre accuracy.  I wish they made all QBs throw at the combine

Interesting. Because there some mock drafts out there that have him going 1st overall to the Texans.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2014, 11:00:43 AM »
hard to believe luck ran a faster time at 30 pounds more :o
Luck's athleticisim is deceiving!

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2014, 11:12:47 AM »
Tyrann Mathieu known as the "honey badger" plays for the Arizona. Last year at the combine he only got 4 reps with 225. I've heard guys on the field tell him that their girlfriends bench more than him.lol
This guy only benches 4 reps with 225?


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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2014, 11:25:26 AM »
He's a defensive back...WR's Qb's and DB's aern't expected to put up big numbers at the combine bench press. Not to mention he weighs less than 190 pounds. His awareness and football IQ are his strengths.

Bottom line is the guy has a job in the NFL making millions and had a pretty respectable rookie season.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2014, 11:41:34 AM »
Coach, how did they arrive at using 225 as the standard bench press test?

Yeah, as mentioned it's a nice smaller number that most players can handle for a few, and they don't need much in the way of spotters, equipment.... Also a lot of thought behind it was based on those old 1 rep max charts, they plug in the final number and it gives an idea of their 1 rep.

Granted, it would be better if they chose a different exercise or rep range block for different positions, but the #225 test was  late 70's - early 80's thinking.

As far as numbers, many of the smaller positions average 8 - 12 reps. They really look at it for linemen though, a guy only getting in the  lower 20's is considered below average.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2014, 11:47:01 AM »
I'm actually surprised the spotters give credit for actual reps on the bench press because I see a lot of these guys, regardless of position, slamming the bar off their chest. Especially when it comes down to the last reps they can handle before getting tired. Some of them look like their about to shatter their sternum with how hard they let the bar bounce off their chest. A lot of the reps shouldn't even count if they resort to doing that.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2014, 12:02:43 PM »
Here's a combine averages chart based on position for those interested -

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8953829/2013-nfl-draft-five-year-nfl-combine-averages .

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2014, 12:07:51 PM »
I watched Mathiew's highlights, what a beast. He could bench 135 for all I care.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2014, 12:43:18 PM »
Has there been any NFL players that bombed the Bench Press, like getting only 2-4 reps of 225?
dick butkiss couldn't do one rep, but he was one of the hardest hitters ever go figure.
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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2014, 12:50:58 PM »
maybe some of these  guys really are drug free

wideouts benching on average of 10 reps  for 225?

with millions at stake they still stay natty, thats respect

and gutsy

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2014, 01:03:26 PM »
Interesting. Because there some mock drafts out there that have him going 1st overall to the Texans.

Yeah I was surprised too, considering the hype he's been getting.  Granted I watched about 30 minutes of him doing drills, so that's not enough to give him a fair assessment.

He looked good in college at going through his progressions, so if his inaccuracy is just a matter of poor footwork/technique that might be able to be ironed out

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2014, 01:13:01 PM »
hard to believe luck ran a faster time at 30 pounds more :o

No shit. Turned out to be a great pick as well. Once this kid develops his skills to the fullest. First round HOF for sure plus he's solid as a person.

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Re: NFL Combine
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2014, 01:28:53 PM »
Blake Bortles is 6 4.  They can work with him on other things, but IMO, height wins out.
Plus his chick is hot :)

manziel is a midget that's going to lose 10% of his speed by week 3 of the regular seasons.  Those pretty dance moves won't work in the pros with his short legs.  He's going to get hit early and often.  Once he's 10% slower, he's going to be a short tebow.  Sorry, I know everyone loves the LA lifestyle and carefree nature of "johnny football", but he's going to be a bust.  Trying to bully the texans to take him first?

"It would be the worst decision they've (the Texans) ever made," he told The Houston Chronicle of the possibility. "I'd be in the same division playing against them twice a year. Sorry, but you just turned that chip on my shoulder from a Frito into a Dorito."