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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #300 on: November 21, 2011, 02:49:13 PM »
I wouldn't say I won, since we didn't even get off the ground, but you're very gracious. Have a good one too.

You're absolutely welcome to ask me questions.  Now, I don't promise to have all answers immediately LOL and may have to study a bit, but I'm happy to discuss in a laid back kinda way.

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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #301 on: November 23, 2011, 03:20:21 PM »
If you don't want God you won't have God; although, there's no need for childish insults....I'm not insulting anyone.
Sorry I Insulted you - will you please forgive me  :(
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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #302 on: November 23, 2011, 03:30:39 PM »
You're absolutely welcome to ask me questions.  Now, I don't promise to have all answers immediately LOL and may have to study a bit, but I'm happy to discuss in a laid back kinda way.
Q: You are the ruler of a medieval empire and you are about to have a celebration tomorrow. The celebration is the most important party you have ever hosted. You've got 1000 bottles of wine you were planning to open for the celebration, but you find out that one of them is poisoned.

The poison exhibits no symptoms until death. Death occurs within ten to twenty hours after consuming even the minutest amount of poison.

You have over a thousand slaves at your disposal and just under 24 hours to determine which single bottle is poisoned.

You have a handful of prisoners about to be executed, and it would mar your celebration to have anyone else killed.

What is the smallest number of prisoners you must have to drink from the bottles to be absolutely sure to find the poisoned bottle within 24 hours?

Please Answer
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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #303 on: November 24, 2011, 03:18:47 PM »
Q: You are the ruler of a medieval empire and you are about to have a celebration tomorrow. The celebration is the most important party you have ever hosted. You've got 1000 bottles of wine you were planning to open for the celebration, but you find out that one of them is poisoned.

The poison exhibits no symptoms until death. Death occurs within ten to twenty hours after consuming even the minutest amount of poison.

You have over a thousand slaves at your disposal and just under 24 hours to determine which single bottle is poisoned.

You have a handful of prisoners about to be executed, and it would mar your celebration to have anyone else killed.

What is the smallest number of prisoners you must have to drink from the bottles to be absolutely sure to find the poisoned bottle within 24 hours?

Please Answer

Do you mean optimistic or pessimistic scenario? You mean minimal number in the sense it will always suffice or that there exist such scenario in which this number will suffice?

Anyway in pessimistic scenario its ceil(log(1000)) = 10, coz |P(S)| = 2^|S| and you can distinguish every such set by one element (at least).

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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #304 on: November 24, 2011, 04:17:41 PM »
Do you mean optimistic or pessimistic scenario? You mean minimal number in the sense it will always suffice or that there exist such scenario in which this number will suffice?

Anyway in pessimistic scenario its ceil(log(1000)) = 10, coz |P(S)| = 2^|S| and you can distinguish every such set by one element (at least).
Hey dude, I was just kidding, have you really tried to work that out, because I forgot what the answer was. LOL
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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #305 on: November 25, 2011, 06:30:49 PM »
Q: You are the ruler of a medieval empire and you are about to have a celebration tomorrow. The celebration is the most important party you have ever hosted. You've got 1000 bottles of wine you were planning to open for the celebration, but you find out that one of them is poisoned.

The poison exhibits no symptoms until death. Death occurs within ten to twenty hours after consuming even the minutest amount of poison.

You have over a thousand slaves at your disposal and just under 24 hours to determine which single bottle is poisoned.

You have a handful of prisoners about to be executed, and it would mar your celebration to have anyone else killed.

What is the smallest number of prisoners you must have to drink from the bottles to be absolutely sure to find the poisoned bottle within 24 hours?

Please Answer

Is it 4?

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Re: Richard Dawkins Calls O'Reilly Dumbass.
« Reply #306 on: November 26, 2011, 12:28:07 AM »
Q: You are the ruler of a medieval empire and you are about to have a celebration tomorrow. The celebration is the most important party you have ever hosted. You've got 1000 bottles of wine you were planning to open for the celebration, but you find out that one of them is poisoned.

The poison exhibits no symptoms until death. Death occurs within ten to twenty hours after consuming even the minutest amount of poison.

You have over a thousand slaves at your disposal and just under 24 hours to determine which single bottle is poisoned.

You have a handful of prisoners about to be executed, and it would mar your celebration to have anyone else killed.

What is the smallest number of prisoners you must have to drink from the bottles to be absolutely sure to find the poisoned bottle within 24 hours?

Please Answer
Do you mean optimistic or pessimistic scenario? You mean minimal number in the sense it will always suffice or that there exist such scenario in which this number will suffice?

Anyway in pessimistic scenario its ceil(log(1000)) = 10, coz |P(S)| = 2^|S| and you can distinguish every such set by one element (at least).
Hey dude, I was just kidding, have you really tried to work that out, because I forgot what the answer was. LOL
10 prisoners must sample the wine. Bonus points if you worked out a way to ensure than no more than 8 prisoners die.

Number all bottles using binary digits. Assign each prisoner to one of the binary flags. Prisoners must take a sip from each bottle where their binary flag is set.

Here is how you would find one poisoned bottle out of eight total bottles of wine.

       
 
  Bottle 1
 
  Bottle 2
 
  Bottle 3
 
  Bottle 4
 
  Bottle 5
 
  Bottle 6
 
  Bottle 7
 
  Bottle 8
 
  Prisoner A
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 
  Prisoner B
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 
  Prisoner C
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 
  X
 

   
In the above example, if all prisoners die, bottle 8 is bad. If none die, bottle 1 is bad. If A & B dies, bottle 4 is bad.

With ten people there are 1024 unique combinations so you could test up to 1024 bottles of wine.

Each of the ten prisoners will take a small sip from about 500 bottles. Each sip should take no longer than 30 seconds and should be a very small amount. Small sips not only leave more wine for guests. Small sips also avoid death by alcohol poisoning. As long as each prisoner is administered about a millilitre from each bottle, they will only consume the equivalent of about one bottle of wine each.

Each prisoner will have at least a fifty percent chance of living. There is only one binary combination where all prisoners must sip from the wine. If there are ten prisoners then there are ten more combinations where all but one prisoner must sip from the wine. By avoiding these two types of combinations you can ensure no more than 8 prisoners die.

One viewer felt that this solution was in flagrant contempt of restaurant etiquette. The emperor paid for this wine, so there should be no need to prove to the guests that wine is the same as the label. I am not even sure if ancient wine even came with labels affixed. However, it is true that after leaving the wine open for a day, that this medieval wine will taste more like vinegar than it ever did. C'est la vie.

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