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Title: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 12, 2013, 07:20:45 AM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Dokey111 on July 12, 2013, 07:23:36 AM
a bill
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Knooger on July 12, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
Estrogen to finish turning you into a lady.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2013, 07:38:16 AM
Androgel which will do nothing but kill the rest of your test levels and suppress your LH for the rest of your life.  Unless you overload on HCG or better yet, HMG  (seeing how triptorelin if still in the "iffy" stages) to the extent that you start lactating and menstruating as well.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: BigCyp on July 12, 2013, 07:38:39 AM
From the way you post, probably a penectomy so it can be donated to someone more deserving.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 12, 2013, 07:41:53 AM
Estrogen to finish turning you into a lady.
So are you saying I should go ahead and see if they can turn my penis into a vagina?
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: JediTerminator on July 12, 2013, 08:21:14 AM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.

androgel. which is a huge hassle but does fix your problems up a bit. try for injections as they feel more powerful.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: ESFitness on July 12, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
if it comes in under 400 he'll probably give you the option of cream or patch.. but tell him you'ld rather get the shot. it's wayyy cheaper, so tell him you can't afford the patch or cream. he'll probably write it for 200 every other week or 300 every 3 weeks.

10cc of Phizer cyp is $70 at walgreens. order your own follow up tests for $40 online and they'll send you to Labcorp, just bring the results in to him.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Nomad on July 12, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
The new ranges are fucking bs, the low limit is 240 which is something that most healthy young guys will ahve only after coming of the juice. If your normal levels are that low...ask your doc for an hcg or TRT.  I'd be happy if your test levels are at least 500-550.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 12, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Do people ever get prescribed legit bodybuilding steroids when their test levels are low? Or is it always just that gel crap?
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Psychopath on July 12, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
Do people ever get prescribed legit bodybuilding steroids when their test levels are low? Or is it always just that gel crap?


You need to do research, mclovin.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 12, 2013, 02:11:00 PM
if it comes in under 400 he'll probably give you the option of cream or patch.. but tell him you'ld rather get the shot. it's wayyy cheaper, so tell him you can't afford the patch or cream. he'll probably write it for 200 every other week or 300 every 3 weeks.

10cc of Phizer cyp is $70 at walgreens. order your own follow up tests for $40 online and they'll send you to Labcorp, just bring the results in to him.

Under 300???

THE BEEF just had the blood panel done, free test was 65, normal values 4 - 6.5. THE BEEF is taking 350 mg of a blend every two weeks. If you are low, 200mg's Delatestryl (Testosterone Enanthate) every 1 -4 weeks - medical protocol.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.

I have low testosterone. I am 68 though and not 28 like you. My doctor, like most legitimate doctors will prescribe just enough testosterone to get you into the normal range, which at your age should be higher then it is at mine.

Like another poster recommended, stay away from Androgel. It is more expensive, it has more sides and it often doesn't work that well. The only plus is that for folks too squeamish to inject themselves or wait to have the doctor do it every three weeks, solves these problems. You apply it daily. My experience was that it made my nipples sensitive.....not a good sign in my opinion unless you want breasts instead of pecs.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
Do people ever get prescribed legit bodybuilding steroids when their test levels are low? Or is it always just that gel crap?

My doctor prescribes testosterone cypionate to treat my low testosterone. Androgel wasn't to my liking. Too expensive and I had side effects from it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
if it comes in under 400 he'll probably give you the option of cream or patch.. but tell him you'ld rather get the shot. it's wayyy cheaper, so tell him you can't afford the patch or cream. he'll probably write it for 200 every other week or 300 every 3 weeks.

10cc of Phizer cyp is $70 at walgreens. order your own follow up tests for $40 online and they'll send you to Labcorp, just bring the results in to him.

After a year off testosterone cyp, my levels dropped to 200. They are back up in the normal range now. I'd prefer normal for a guy 18-20 years old, but so far have not been able to talk my doctor into that big a dose. I am injecting 300 mg every other week with no lows prior to the next injection. Before surgery last year, my free testosterone numbers were excellent at between 700 and 1,000 although my doctor though 1,000 was too high. My last labs showed me in the low 400's. At the last visit the doctor let me increase the dosage to 300 mg from 200 mg every other week.

BTW, once you are on testosterone, it is a forever thing if you want to keep your levels in the normal range.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:31:59 PM
The new ranges are fucking bs, the low limit is 240 which is something that most healthy young guys will ahve only after coming of the juice. If your normal levels are that low...ask your doc for an hcg or TRT.  I'd be happy if your test levels are at least 500-550.

I was adding hcg on my own when I was on testosterone cypionate before. I am thinking of doing this again. Any comments/suggestions are welcome.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Knooger on July 12, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
So are you saying I should go ahead and see if they can turn my penis into a vagina?

Yes, and if you do it, I'll pay you $10 every time you let me fuck it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: arce1988 on July 12, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
 I turn 44 soon and I am sure that my level is zero    I really need to get HRT
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:41:55 PM
I turn 44 soon and I am sure that my level is zero    I really need to get HRT

Not every dude gets low testosterone. Why would you think you have it? BTW 44 is young by my standards.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: arce1988 on July 12, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
  I will go and get full blood work done and see
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 02:51:35 PM
  I will go and get full blood work done and see

Again, why would you think it is low?

When I was a kid, I had the mumps during puberty, just late enough into it that it took out one testicle. My guess is (with no absolute proof) that this messed up my testosterone levels for the rest of my life. Didn't stop me from being able to make a couple of kids though, so something was working....at least a little bit. I was on TRT at 16 along with D-bol because the doctor felt I needed a boost. Looking back, this seems pretty significant to me. At least I didn't grow tits! LOL.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: DanielPaul on July 12, 2013, 03:27:42 PM
Again, why would you think it is low?

When I was a kid, I had the mumps during puberty, just late enough into it that it took out one testicle. My guess is (with no absolute proof) that this messed up my testosterone levels for the rest of my life. Didn't stop me from being able to make a couple of kids though, so something was working....at least a little bit. I was on TRT at 16 along with D-bol because the doctor felt I needed a boost. Looking back, this seems pretty significant to me. At least I didn't grow tits! LOL.
What kind of a physic were you able to develope on this (no homo)
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
What kind of a physic were you able to develope on this (no homo)

Pretty good actually. As I stated on Getbig in the past, I was really skinny as a teenager. It is hard to say whether this was just my genetics or as a result of possibly having low testosterone levels. Truth is, the doctor didn't have me do labs as far as I can remember. He just made assumptions. My goal was to get bigger. I achieved this. I wouldn't say that I have ever had a competitive bodybuilder's physique, but I have managed to be fit looking all of my adult life. Today I weigh about 208 and having shrunk some over the years, stand somewhere just under 5'11". Clearly, I am not frail looking.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Nomad on July 12, 2013, 06:57:11 PM
I was adding hcg on my own when I was on testosterone cypionate before. I am thinking of doing this again. Any comments/suggestions are welcome.

Pulse HCG every other day or every two days at 250 iu. I think its that nubmer but with smaller dosages and more spread out (instead of everyday) the effect on ball recovery / testosterone and lh production stimulation is greater.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Pulse HCG every other day or every two days at 250 iu. I think its that nubmer but with smaller dosages and more spread out (instead of everyday) the effect on ball recovery / testosterone and lh production stimulation is greater.

This dose of HCG is about right, if I remember correctly. I don't my one real ball to shrink up.  ;D  I consulted with the folks at All Things Male for advice. My doctor doesn't think HCG is necessary but then it isn't his nut that's going to turn into a peanut.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Shockwave on July 12, 2013, 07:10:20 PM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.
Hmm.

Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Shockwave on July 12, 2013, 07:17:36 PM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.
I am also 28 and just went in for a testosterone test today. I am on suboxone as part of a treatment for opiate dependence and my doctor thinks my test levels are suffering due to the medicine. Probably test cyp 200 once every two weeks.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: jude2 on July 12, 2013, 07:37:30 PM
I know some guys who use 100iu day and that gets them to the very upper limits of normal.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 12, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: jude2 on July 12, 2013, 08:44:30 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.
That's because back in the old days guys would take 2500 to 3000ius at a time, Not 100 -250ius for HRT.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 12, 2013, 09:05:41 PM
Estrogen to finish turning you into a lady.

lol
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 11:19:04 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.

I didn't have the sore nipple side with HCG. Everyone is different. What  I would like to find is the magic formula that raises my libido. Not sure why it matters except that it matters to me.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.

At 68 years of age, life is counting down. If I am on HRT for the remainder of my life, it is no big deal as far as I am concerned as long as I can keep hitting the gym and build big muscles. It is not like I am suddenly going to have kidney failure.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 16, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
After a year off testosterone cyp, my levels dropped to 200. They are back up in the normal range now. I'd prefer normal for a guy 18-20 years old, but so far have not been able to talk my doctor into that big a dose. I am injecting 300 mg every other week with no lows prior to the next injection. Before surgery last year, my free testosterone numbers were excellent at between 700 and 1,000 although my doctor though 1,000 was too high. My last labs showed me in the low 400's. At the last visit the doctor let me increase the dosage to 300 mg from 200 mg every other week.

BTW, once you are on testosterone, it is a forever thing if you want to keep your levels in the normal range.

Is this a serious post???

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 16, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
I didn't have the sore nipple side with HCG. Everyone is different. What  I would like to find is the magic formula that raises my libido. Not sure why it matters except that it matters to me.

I remember Chrisler from AllThingsMale recommended a small dose of DHEA. He thought it was important for guys on TRT for health reasons and really thought it boosted libido... said it was more important than test itself in that regard. Check with the guys at AllThingsMale for the dose and report back if you try it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 16, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
I didn't have the sore nipple side with HCG. Everyone is different. What  I would like to find is the magic formula that raises my libido. Not sure why it matters except that it matters to me.

50 mg proviron daily, safe and effective.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: randy841 on July 16, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.

I did HRT (started with androgel [1 then 2 packets ed]- then test troches  - then andriol - NO INJECTIONS) for two years @25 & 26. After the problem resolved itself, my levels were within range after 2 months.

So NO - you don't have to do it for life. Think of it as therapy.

It's a misconception and too much bro-science bullshit that once you start test, that you are stuck for life. I have done a 10 month cycle, and w/in 7 weeks endogenous test levels were back to normal. Again on another 12 month cycle.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Earl1972 on July 16, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Once you go on HRT for months your normal testosterone will really dive. Really think if you want to do it for life.

 HCG is a form of LH hormone that bodybuilders use who think they are doctors of pharmacology. Back in the day so many bodybuilders felt it raised estrogen levels too. Whether this if from aromatization or just that it use to be made from pregnant women's piss. Can't count how many guys got a sore nipple area from using it.

have you ever used steroids or hrt?

E
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
Is this a serious post???

THE BEEF

It is the truth and it is very serious.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mawse on July 16, 2013, 05:51:42 PM
After a year off testosterone cyp, my levels dropped to 200. They are back up in the normal range now. I'd prefer normal for a guy 18-20 years old, but so far have not been able to talk my doctor into that big a dose. I am injecting 300 mg every other week with no lows prior to the next injection. Before surgery last year, my free testosterone numbers were excellent at between 700 and 1,000 although my doctor though 1,000 was too high. My last labs showed me in the low 400's. At the last visit the doctor let me increase the dosage to 300 mg from 200 mg every other week.

BTW, once you are on testosterone, it is a forever thing if you want to keep your levels in the normal range.

A single 300 mg injection every 14 days? Holy shit, I'm always amazed at how legit retarded most doctors are.

Op, hrt is good. But you need a grown up doctor who actually understands medicine

 
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
I remember Chrisler from AllThingsMale recommended a small dose of DHEA. He thought it was important for guys on TRT for health reasons and really thought it boosted libido... said it was more important than test itself in that regard. Check with the guys at AllThingsMale for the dose and report back if you try it.

I take DHEA 25 mg and have for many years. I had no idea AllThingsMale recommends it. When I was dealing with prostate cancer, My doctor had me stop taking it, but I am back on it now.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 05:58:18 PM
I did HRT (started with androgel [1 then 2 packets ed]- then test troches  - then andriol - NO INJECTIONS) for two years @25 & 26. After the problem resolved itself, my levels were within range after 2 months.

So NO - you don't have to do it for life. Think of it as therapy.

It's a misconception and too much bro-science bullshit that once you start test, that you are stuck for life. I have done a 10 month cycle, and w/in 7 weeks endogenous test levels were back to normal. Again on another 12 month cycle.

I believe it depends on why your testosterone levels are low. Admittedly, I wasn't very clear about this in the earlier post. If low test is due to age or hypogonadism, one will likely need to remain on TRT indefinitely or learn to live with low test levels.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
A single 300 mg injection every 14 days? Holy shit, I'm always amazed at how legit retarded most doctors are.

Op, hrt is good. But you need a grown up doctor who actually understands medicine

 

The prescribing doctor is a urologist not and endocrinologist. When I was on testosterone cypionate prior to having prostate cancer, 150 mg a week put in in the high normal range 800 to 1,000 total test. I see no need to exceed these levels should I once again get there on the dosage I am on.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 16, 2013, 06:18:10 PM
The prescribing doctor is a urologist not and endocrinologist. When I was on testosterone cypionate prior to having prostate cancer, 150 mg a week put in in the high normal range 800 to 1,000 total test. I see no need to exceed these levels should I once again get there on the dosage I am on.

I think he means the frequency is suboptimal. Levels will fluctuate wildly.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
yeah total joke ,esp its always the ones who never tried who claim such

most ppl are just fine after few motnhs even after coming off hefty nonstop cycles

There are reasons for being on testosterone besides for bodybuilding purposes.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Rudee on July 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Androgel which will do nothing but kill the rest of your test levels and suppress your LH for the rest of your life.  Unless you overload on HCG or better yet, HMG  (seeing how triptorelin if still in the "iffy" stages) to the extent that you start lactating and menstruating as well.

Exactly, once you start it, you pretty much have to stick with it.   And your girlfriend can roll your little testicles between your fingers.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mawse on July 16, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
The prescribing doctor is a urologist not and endocrinologist. When I was on testosterone cypionate prior to having prostate cancer, 150 mg a week put in in the high normal range 800 to 1,000 total test. I see no need to exceed these levels should I once again get there on the dosage I am on.

Yeah, urologist.. That's your problem right there , they should stick to poking around in men's asses and not prescribing hrt. With that injection protocol your levels will be all over the place, you need them as stable as possible for safe hrt

Switch to every other day sub q shots, divide your 150 mg a week into 3-4 shots and shoot subq n the hips and ass fat with a slin pin. Cristler on allthings male recommends this

This will lower e2 conversion, give stable levels and if you have shbg or dht issues it should help those too. Lose the uro IMO, he sounds like an idiot
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 17, 2013, 12:04:56 AM
Yeah, urologist.. That's your problem right there , they should stick to poking around in men's asses and not prescribing hrt. With that injection protocol your levels will be all over the place, you need them as stable as possible for safe hrt

Switch to every other day sub q shots, divide your 150 mg a week into 3-4 shots and shoot subq n the hips and ass fat with a slin pin. Cristler on allthings male recommends this

This will lower e2 conversion, give stable levels and if you have shbg or dht issues it should help those too. Lose the uro IMO, he sounds like an idiot

Thanks for the advice. I will take it under consideration.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 17, 2013, 08:02:48 AM
Seriously for libido almost nothing beats proviron and it is used in some countries for and in addition to test in hrt.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
TRT and HRT clinics here in S. FL follow the same protocol.

200mg test cyp weekly
500iu hcg 2x weekly
2 tabs of arimidex weekly
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Rammstein on July 17, 2013, 08:41:36 AM
www.testosteronewisdom.c om/

Anybody else read this book?

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Guide--Second-Nelson-Vergel/dp/0966223128/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374075674&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mawse on July 17, 2013, 08:58:52 AM
Seriously for libido almost nothing beats proviron and it is used in some countries for and in addition to test in hrt.

A lot of ppl don't process test into dht effectively, so proviron, masteron or winny in low doses are great additions

Just not legal in the us ( no dht cream is being made here anymore either )

You can rub androgel on your nuts to rase dht in a pinch
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: RRKore on July 17, 2013, 09:42:15 AM
Exactly, once you start it, you pretty much have to stick with it.   And your girlfriend can roll your little testicles between your fingers.

...and fit them both inside her mouth at the same time.  So there is that.  lol
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 17, 2013, 09:42:40 AM
A lot of ppl don't process test into dht effectively, so proviron, masteron or winny in low doses are great additions

Just not legal in the us ( no dht cream is being made here anymore either )

You can rub androgel on your nuts to rase dht in a pinch

No DHT products?

I know there are some (small) differences in androgel and testogel. I've only used testogel out of those two and it's like rubbing 98% alcohol on your body, wouldn't dream of putting that on my stones. Sometimes when i put it on my chest it burns a bit, can't imagine what it would do for the testicles! :D
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: RRKore on July 17, 2013, 09:43:55 AM
Seriously for libido almost nothing beats proviron and it is used in some countries for and in addition to test in hrt.

Hmmm.  Any idea how it compares to masterone?  And (it's an oral, right?) how hard is it on your stomach?
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 17, 2013, 09:48:08 AM
Hmmm.  Any idea how it compares to masterone?  And (it's an oral, right?) how hard is it on your stomach?

Proviron doesn't really build muscle, at least nothing like masteron does. Yes it's an oral and very easy on the liver and stomach.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: King Shizzo on July 17, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
My doctor prescribes testosterone cypionate to treat my low testosterone. Androgel wasn't to my liking. Too expensive and I had side effects from it.
I always knew you were all drugs.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: King Shizzo on July 17, 2013, 09:53:41 AM
I am also 28 and just went in for a testosterone test today. I am on suboxone as part of a treatment for opiate dependence and my doctor thinks my test levels are suffering due to the medicine. Probably test cyp 200 once every two weeks.
So a drug addict has the nerve to call me out? Fix yourself.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mawse on July 17, 2013, 11:30:58 AM
No DHT products?

I know there are some (small) differences in androgel and testogel. I've only used testogel out of those two and it's like rubbing 98% alcohol on your body, wouldn't dream of putting that on my stones. Sometimes when i put it on my chest it burns a bit, can't imagine what it would do for the testicles! :D

yup, no dht products - my doc would prescribe me dht cream or masteron but they just suddenly stopped making them here, absolutely insane imo. I don't like having to break the law to get basic hormone numbers into normal range, but I'm forced to

lol yeah I wouldn't do the scrote slather with testogel either

Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
So I got a call back from my doctor a few days ago. My testosterone was really low at only 210; they did say my lh and fsh levels were normal. I have a follow up appointment this afternoon and need your alls advice. What do you think the doctor will want to prescribe? Do I need an estrogen blocker too? Also, what is hcg? Do I need to worry about any of this stuff making me sterile? Basically, I need you guys to tell me the questions to ask before I go in there. Also, why do you think my test levels could be this low at only 28? I haven't noticed any symptoms other than low energy.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
Also, will I have to be on hrt the rest of my life if I do this? I'm counting on my fellow getbiggers to help me make the right decision.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: efanhowz on July 18, 2013, 11:33:57 AM
I'm paying attention to this thread bc I'm going In for a blood test too once everything clears out of my system. I'm hoping to get test prescribed but only to hoard it for future cycle. I'm 28.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
I'm paying attention to this thread bc I'm going In for a blood test too once everything clears out of my system. I'm hoping to get test prescribed but only to hoard it for future cycle. I'm 28.
Any advice for me? I'm really nervous about this.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
So I got a call back from my doctor a few days ago. My testosterone was really low at only 210; they did say my lh and fsh levels were normal. I have a follow up appointment this afternoon and need your alls advice. What do you think the doctor will want to prescribe? Do I need an estrogen blocker too? Also, what is hcg? Do I need to worry about any of this stuff making me sterile? Basically, I need you guys to tell me the questions to ask before I go in there. Also, why do you think my test levels could be this low at only 28? I haven't noticed any symptoms other than low energy.

As your doctor should explain to you, there are a number of things which can cause low testosterone in men. Firstly in the low test caused by primary or secondary hypogonadism? If your pituitary gland isn't functioning correctly, this could be the problem. TRT doesn't make men sterile, but the side effects of low testosterone (erectile dysfunction) can have an adverse affect on your fathering a child.

The doctor is likely to start you out on a low enough dosage that you won't initially need to worry about adding HCG or an estrogen blocker. HCG is human chorionic gonadotropin. The reason this is prescribed is to insure your body keeps producing testosterone on it's own. It is sometimes prescribed alone for low testosterone.

For more about low testosterone, check out this website: http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html (http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html). You can find the answers to many of the questions you have there.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
As your doctor should explain to you, there are a number of things which can cause low testosterone in men. Firstly in the low test caused by primary or secondary hypogonadism? If your pituitary gland isn't functioning correctly, this could be the problem. TRT doesn't make men sterile, but the side effects of low testosterone (erectile dysfunction) can have an adverse affect on your fathering a child.

The doctor is likely to start you out on a low enough dosage that you won't initially need to worry about adding HCG or an estrogen blocker. HCG is human chorionic gonadotropin. The reason this is prescribed is to insure your body keeps producing testosterone on it's own. It is sometimes prescribed alone for low testosterone.

For more about low testosterone, check out this website: http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html (http://www.allthingsmale.com/index.html). You can find the answers to many of the questions you have there.
Thanks man. What about shots vs gel...should I ask for shots?
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Man of Steel on July 18, 2013, 01:07:42 PM
From the way you post, probably a penectomy so it can be donated to someone more deserving.

Cyp, are you suggesting that surgeons could then transport ole mclovin's severed peen in a thimble?
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Thanks man. What about shots vs gel...should I ask for shots?

You can also get honest information about shots verses the gels at AllThingsMale. My experience with the gel was that it was a bit of a nuisance to apply it daily. It was expensive which resulted in a higher co-pay then I have for injectable test cyp. Oddly, it also mad my nips very sensitive, which can be a bad sign. On the other hand, I have friends who use the gel and love it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 03:42:09 PM
So I am back from the doctor now, and he prescribed me HCG. I am supposed to inject it into my stomach twice a week. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? Is it a steroid?

Also, the first thing he asked me is if I had ever done steroids or over the counter prohormones. I told him I had done 1-AD and M-1T several times in my late teens (about 10 years ago), and he seemed sure that this was the cause.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: King Shizzo on July 18, 2013, 03:44:27 PM
So I am back from the doctor now, and he prescribed me HCG. I am supposed to inject it into my stomach twice a week. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? Is it a steroid?

Also, the first thing he asked me is if I had ever done steroids or over the counter prohormones. I told him I had done 1-AD and M-1T several times in my late teens (about 10 years ago), and he seemed sure that this was the cause.
Fuck! Maybe I need a test too. Those prohormones I took probably fucked up my natural test production.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 03:49:59 PM
Fuck! Maybe I need a test too. Those prohormones I took probably fucked up my natural test production.
He told me that he had seen several people around my age have this same problem due to prohormones. He said that they were worse than steroids when it comes to shutting down natural test production.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 18, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
M1T is stronger than many other steroids there's nothing "pro" about it. M1T (methyl 1-testosterone was about 7-9 x stronger than "regular, illegal" methyl testosterone which was already strong and suppressive. That was/is the case for most "pro-hormones" which are and always were just designer steroids.

Mclovin you need to do some serious reading concerning all of this, at least the profiles of various products. If we spoon feed you every answer it will hurt you in the long haul because you don't know what does what. It's your body, best know what your putting into it.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: andreisdaman on July 18, 2013, 04:21:57 PM
I went to the doctor today and mentioned that the medication I am on seems to be giving me lower energy levels, so he gave me a testosterone test. I've never had this done before. If it comes back low, what would he probably give me? I am only 28 by the way.

Drink some sperm
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: delta9mda on July 18, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Watson test from target. 10 bucks per 5ml. Doc said do 100mg( 1/2ml) every 6 days.
Keeps blood levels constant.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Shockwave on July 18, 2013, 05:36:08 PM
My level just came back. 275. Can anyone interperet these results? sounds low t9 me, especially since im 28
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Luolamies on July 18, 2013, 05:38:26 PM
My level just came back. 275. Can anyone interperet these results? sounds low t9 me, especially since im 28

It is low, very low.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
My level just came back. 275. Can anyone interperet these results? sounds low t9 me, especially since im 28

Mine was 209, and I'm also 28. The doctor said you should be above 600 at our age, and that anything below 300 is extremely low. He pretty much made it sound like I could start growing a vagina at any moment.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
Mine was 209, and I'm also 28. The doctor said you should be above 600 at our age, and that anything below 300 is extremely low. He pretty much made it sound like I could start growing a vagina at any moment.

Despite that some folks might want one, I doubt low testosterone can result in one growing a vagina. Interesting thought though. Transvestites might get the wrong idea and do something to lower their testosterone levels.

Low testosterone generally results in fatigue and loss of muscle mass, perhaps some weight gain, especially fat. But a vagina? Don't think so.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Shockwave on July 18, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Despite that some folks might want one, I doubt low testosterone can result in one growing a vagina. Interesting thought though. Transvestites might get the wrong idea and do something to lower their testosterone levels.

Low testosterone generally results in fatigue and loss of muscle mass, perhaps some weight gain, especially fat. But a vagina? Don't think so.
Yeah, I've experienced all of the above. Fatigue, aches, it's been especially hard to diet... low libido... it just sucks.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Mclovin on July 18, 2013, 07:16:43 PM
Yeah, I've experienced all of the above. Fatigue, aches, it's been especially hard to diet... low libido... it just sucks.
Ask your doc about getting on some hrt. I just took my first dose 5 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: delta9mda on July 18, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
I've been on over three years. Never looking back
Title: Re: Testosterone test
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
Yeah, I've experienced all of the above. Fatigue, aches, it's been especially hard to diet... low libido... it just sucks.

Tell me about it. If I could have anything back, I would like a normal libido. I don't have weight issues and at my age fatigue is not uncommon. I guess no libido is pretty common too among us old folks, but it still sucks.