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This guy is famous for being the least alarmist and most conservative doc/expert around.he just said we are officially in a pandemic and to prepare. He is saying the mortality rate in Iran is way higher than the 2% the Chinese are reporting.20% apparently will be seriously ill from it. Our hospitals struggle with a busy Monday morning, can you imagine the riots that will be happening when 50-100x people want care/beds than the hospitals are able to provide? When they are literally turning away the dying by the thousands? Our infrastructure will collapse. Swine flu or influenza has a mortality rate of 0.02%, this has a mortality rate of over 2%, that's over ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE DEADLY, and looks to spread just as easily. The fact this guy's friends in Iran are begging this guy to get the word out how serious this is, and how much deadlier it seems to be in Iran, raises the possibility it may have already mutated in to something more deadly.
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He is in the category most likely to die from it. Naturally he'll be shitting himself.
The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh reality is that it's a necessity.
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He is in the category most likely to die from it. Naturally he'll be shitting himself.
The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh truth is that it's a necessity.
Even if you are relatively safe, your parents/grandparents/young children won't be.And the knockdown effect on infrastructure and the panic could be like nothing we have seen in our lifetime.
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He is in the category most likely to die from it. Naturally he'll be shitting himself.
The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh reality is that it's a necessity.
Brutal. I hope you’re not affected by it.
That said, flu takes out like 600,000 a year. This isn’t really much to worry about.
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Brutal. I hope you’re not affected by it.
That said, flu takes out like 600,000 a year. This isn’t really much to worry about.
This is 100x deadlier than flu and looks to be spreading just as fast, how on earth did you reach the conclusion this is nothing much to worry about?Flu has been around for hundreds of years, this just a few months, and look how fast it is spreading.
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Even if you are relatively safe, your parents/grandparents/young children won't be.And the knockdown effect on infrastructure and the panic could be like nothing we have seen in our lifetime.
Yes that's true and I'll grieve, but then I'll get over it.
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This is 100x deadlier than flu and looks to be spreading just as fast, how on earth did you reach the conclusion this is nothing much to worry about?Flu has been around for hundreds of years, this just a few months, and look how fast it is spreading.
It's also taking out people with substandard lung health which is mostly heavy smokers. Sucks if that's your vice, but they made that choice so diddums.
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It's also taking out people with substandard lung health which is mostly heavy smokers. Sucks if that's your vice, but you made that choice so diddums.
Not only that but it attacks the heart, the USA for example people die younger than many Asian countries, many from heart disease.
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This guy is famous for being the least alarmist and most conservative doc/expert around.he just said we are officially in a pandemic and to prepare.He is saying the mortality rate in Iran is way higher than the 2% the Chinese are reporting.20% apparently will be seriously ill from it.Our hospitals struggle with a busy Monday morning, can you imagine the riots that will be happening when 50-100x people want care/beds than the hospitals are able to provide?When they are literally turning away the dying by the thousands?Our infrastructure will collapse.Swine flu or influenza has a mortality rate of 0.02%, this has a mortality rate of over 2%, that's over ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE DEADLY, and looks to spread just as easily.The fact this guy's friends in Iran are begging this guy to get the word out how serious this is, and how much deadlier it seems to be in Iran, raises the possibility it may have already mutated in to something more deadly.
How are defining famous?
What are some examples of where he was the voice of reason while SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu and a dozen other deadly viruses were spreading over the last 2 decades?
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Nothing wrong if it wipes out 20% of China. Hopefully does the same with India.
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How are defining famous?
What are some examples of where he was the voice of reason while SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu and a dozen other deadly viruses were spreading over the last 2 decades?
Well fame in 2020 is far more niche based in general with so many sources of media say compared to 1990.In Coronovirus circles he has spent the last few weeks downplaying the coronovirus based on that facts of spread as they were, now he isn't and clearly he sees the future as bleak with the facts as they are.
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The negative reaction that will backfired on the U.S, is that pharmaceutical , medical and health company have been outsourcing their manufacturing to China for decades. Any thing from vaccines to vitamins and all else between.. The first response and need will be China it's self and the care of it's one billion citizens. Which all compounds to a serious shortage to the U.S. if the coronavirus overtakes this country.
The U.S. already have a limited supply of vital pharmaceutical supplies, that is a know fact. With the increases of border crossing, a large part of medicine and other disease and health precautions have been directed to those migrants. That goes far in draining the needs of American. Just to note: breathing mask, the good kind that actually work, are getting hard to find lately. Most all made in China, of course.
Not only the very old or very young, but all people can become victims of a potential out break. A vaccine has not been developed as yet.
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Well fame in 2020 is far more niche based in general with so many sources of media say compared to 1990.In Coronovirus circles he has spent the last few weeks downplaying the coronovirus based on that facts of spread as they were, now he isn't and clearly he sees the future as bleak with the facts as they are.
Bro you said he's famous for being conservative with these outbreaks. Just provide an example. Surely he posted a video or wrote a dated article at the height of a media influenced panic.
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Bro you said he's famous for being conservative with these outbreaks. Just provide an example. Surely he posted a video or wrote a dated article at the height of a media influenced panic.
I never said he had a history of being conservative with previous outbreaks.He is a well connected ,intelligent and articulate doctor who the media have looked at as the voice of reason during this outbreak, and has been downplaying the panic, now he isnt.He is well known in uk medical circles for his logical, fact based approach and common sense.Take from that what you want.
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Not only that but it attacks the heart, the USA for example people die younger than many Asian countries, many from heart disease.
Smoking aint exactly great for heart health..
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Smoking aint exactly great for heart health..
Neither is being obese....
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Neither is being obese....
Are you an old obese smoker?
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Are you an old obese smoker?
Many people seem confused and if they are not old, obese, a smoker etc then it won't effect them.I am none of these things, I'm more worried about the effects on infrastructure and the panic that will set in.
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Many people seem confused and if they are not old, obese, a smoker etc then it won't effect them.I am none of these things, I'm more worried about the effects on infrastructure and the panic that will set in.
Why don't you just put yourself in a position where you might benefit from it if that happens..
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I never said he had a history of being conservative with previous outbreaks.He is a well connected ,intelligent and articulate doctor who the media have looked at as the voice of reason during this outbreak, and has been downplaying the panic, now he isnt.He is well known in uk medical circles for his logical, fact based approach and common sense.Take from that what you want.
Army when you said he was famous for being the least alarmist and conservative doc/expert around and then start a post about a rare virus what should we think you’re referring to with the doctors views? Tooth decay? Ingrown toe nails?
All I asked was for an example of what you were talking about and you avoid examples.
Fine. Hee warning that the disease will be deadly. What should we do to protect ourselves? Argue on getbig?
Help me to understand you.
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Army when you said he was famous for being the least alarmist and conservative doc/expert around and then start a post about a rare virus what should we think you’re referring to with the doctors views? Tooth decay? Ingrown toe nails?
All I asked was for an example of what you were talking about and you avoid examples.
Fine. Hee warning that the disease will be deadly. What should we do to protect ourselves? Argue on getbig?
Help me to understand you.
I'm confused.You only have to cursory glance at Google to see he has been downplaying up until the last week the panic.Examples are his entire video history, Google articles etc.He is a 30yr plus doctor/teacher/trainer with histories of running accident and emergency departments, teaching doctors and nurses etc.He is a jack of all trades doctor who is capable of putting the information together from his contacts, history, experience and facts together and deliver them in a matter of fact way.Whether that's ingrown toenails or rare viruses.As to what to do to protect ourselves?Who knows.The Chinese are wearing facemasks in public, washing hands before every meal and avoiding touching surfaces or others when they don't have to.Also not going out when they do not have to.
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This guy is famous for being the least alarmist and most conservative doc/expert around.he just said we are officially in a pandemic and to prepare.He is saying the mortality rate in Iran is way higher than the 2% the Chinese are reporting.20% apparently will be seriously ill from it.Our hospitals struggle with a busy Monday morning, can you imagine the riots that will be happening when 50-100x people want care/beds than the hospitals are able to provide?When they are literally turning away the dying by the thousands?Our infrastructure will collapse.Swine flu or influenza has a mortality rate of 0.02%, this has a mortality rate of over 2%, that's over ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE DEADLY, and looks to spread just as easily.The fact this guy's friends in Iran are begging this guy to get the word out how serious this is, and how much deadlier it seems to be in Iran, raises the possibility it may have already mutated in to something more deadly.
That's cool.
These viruses evolve from overcrowding animals in horrible conditions before unjustifiably murdering them.
So yes,it would be good that we pay the price.
Humanity is heading in a bad direction anyways.
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I don't know about 20% but the 3% figure was between those ill enough to be diagnosed with it.
Most of those who contract the virus clear it as a simple flu,not knowing it was Corona.
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I am hiding in Basile's basement until it blows over. The wifi is great here but the food is not so good
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I am hiding in Basile's basement until it blows over. The wifi is great here but the food is not so good
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"Let's put the risk of dying by Coronavirus in perspective since there are so many misunderstandings about its connection to the influenza virus.
The CDC states that the death burden of influenza is roughly 61,000/45,000,000 infections. The fatality percentage of influenza is 0.13%.
The death burden of the Covid-19 is around 2% at the moment but may go up as SARS did after 2003
Let's do some quick math to determine how much more deadly, at a minimum, Covid-19 is compared to influenza virus.
0.02/0.0013= 15.[3846153846](tel:3846153846)
At a minimum, Coronavirus is 15.4 times deadlier than the Influenza Virus and twice as contagious; R-value of Coronavirus is 2.2-2.5 at the moment and may go higher based on incoming data and "The median R value for seasonal influenza was 1.28 (IQR: 1.19-1.37)"
Let's stop pretending that it is the equivalent of a common cold. It is a serious disease that spreads easily and often without symptoms.
Let's also put an end to the idea that the mortality rate should go down because "there are many more undiagnosed people unaccounted for". By the same logic, there are also many more Covid-19 deaths unaccounted for. And China is controlling the WHO numbers that get reported. China is also known to severely under report deaths of even influenza because of "pre-existing medical conditions" or pneumonia.They have been doing the same with Covid-19.
There are some people suggesting that the R-value of Covid-19 should go down because after the winter season. The minimum time it takes to show symptoms for Covid-19 is 2 days; some say 24 days. And it spreads throughout that entire incubation period. So you can easily pass it on without knowing that you have it.
Contrast that with Influenza:
"Symptoms can begin about 2 days (but can range from 1 to 4 days) after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those people may still spread the virus to others."
1-4 days VS 2-24 days. Which will be more likely to spread?
The median incubation days for Covid-19 is 5.2 days and the mean incubation of Influenza is 2 days.
That's more than double the incubation time and suggests that the R-values for Covid-19 should go higher rather than lower.
Not to mention the possibility that Covid-19 is beginning to mutate, which means that you can get reinfected with a Covid-19 variant even if you do beat it the first time. And it could take 6+ years for development of a vaccine.
~20% of confirmed coronavirus cases have also required hospitalization and "life-saving measures"."
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in the 2017/2018 flu season, 28,000 people in the UK alone died from flu...
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in the 2017/2018 flu season, 28,000 people in the UK alone died from flu...
Yup.Imagine that number x30 or 40...or worse....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
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Yup.Imagine that number x30 or 40...or worse....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
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it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
A flu virus that's just twice as contagious as flu but 20-100x more deadly?That's unheard of.Every outbreak of a virus before in recent history has either been high mortality rate but hard to transmit, or easy to transmit and low mortality rate.This is both easy to transmit and has a high mortality rate.Comparing it to the common flu at this point is retarded.
(https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/2/9/8091566a6af040f990cd30148aa6d7b2_6.jpg)
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Army of One spends way too much time on the internet, being scared about everything.
All fear mongering.
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Army of One spends way too much time on the internet, being scared about everything.
All fear mongering.
If the stats are saying it's twice as contagious as the common flu but 20-100x more deadly, how is that fear mongering?It's logical that the 30k British deaths from flu in a year could be 400-500k or more deaths from Coronovirus.Its all but officially being called a Pandemic now.
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A flu virus that's just twice as contagious as flu but 20-100x more deadly?That's unheard of.Every outbreak of a virus before in recent history has either been high mortality rate but hard to transmit, or easy to transmit and low mortality rate.This is both easy to transmit and has a high mortality rate.Comparing it to the common flu at this point is retarded.
(https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/2/9/8091566a6af040f990cd30148aa6d7b2_6.jpg)
Apparently anyone who had sex with one person automatically had sex with all their previous partners as well, dont you remember the AIDS scare?
They had everyone shitting themselves for months...
If this is genuine then all the previews "wolf cries" in the past are misleading people.
Heard a scientist on the radio the other day talking about how they have genetically enginerred the "Spanish Flu" virus from an unearthed frozen corpse.
Seriously, why the fuck would you want to recreate a virus that killed millions of people when it was extinct.
Maybe spread it around when people start getting comfortable and complacent?
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Anyone believe the stats coming from Chinese sources? It must be really high and super contagious for them to be taking such drastic action.
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so in China there have been almost 76,000 cases, 2,200 deaths and 18,000 recovered?
So have all the other people still got it?
Think about these stats, they would be changing by the second, they are just made up on the spot like 99.9% of all stats
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We need to start a go fund me for Army of one and buy him one of these.
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so in China there have been almost 76,000 cases, 2,200 deaths and 18,000 recovered?
So have all the other people still got it?
Think about these stats, they would be changing by the second, they are just made up on the spot like 99.9% of all stats
All accounts from China that are not from official Chinese sources are painting a far worse picture than those official stats.
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so in China there have been almost 76,000 cases, 2,200 deaths and 18,000 recovered?
So have all the other people still got it?
Think about these stats, they would be changing by the second, they are just made up on the spot like 99.9% of all stats
All accounts from China that are not from official Chinese sources are painting a far worse picture than those official stats.
Army can't reason or see any other viewpoint than his own.
The Chinese are lying and we have the stats to prove it!
Judge them by their actions, they're wearing masks and washing their hands.
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All accounts from China that are not from official Chinese sources are painting a far worse picture than those official stats.
Yes, we know those "chinks" cant be trusted
You never know, after all the success of China in recent years it may even be a deliberate act by a foreign power to create disharmony in the country
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This guy is famous for being the least alarmist and most conservative doc/expert around.he just said we are officially in a pandemic and to prepare.He is saying the mortality rate in Iran is way higher than the 2% the Chinese are reporting.20% apparently will be seriously ill from it.Our hospitals struggle with a busy Monday morning, can you imagine the riots that will be happening when 50-100x people want care/beds than the hospitals are able to provide?When they are literally turning away the dying by the thousands?Our infrastructure will collapse.Swine flu or influenza has a mortality rate of 0.02%, this has a mortality rate of over 2%, that's over ONE HUNDRED TIMES MORE DEADLY, and looks to spread just as easily.The fact this guy's friends in Iran are begging this guy to get the word out how serious this is, and how much deadlier it seems to be in Iran, raises the possibility it may have already mutated in to something more deadly.
Why should we listen to anything this old fart has to say? He's not an expert on epidemiology. He's a Nurse Teacher (whatever the fuck that means). Basically, he's reading articles, and then making youtube videos about what he's read. ???
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it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
And ebola....and swine flu....mad cow disease.....and etc. Every year we are hit with a new doom and gloom virus that blows over shortly after.
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And ebola....and swine flu....mad cow disease.....and etc. Every year we are hit with a new doom and gloom virus that blows over shortly after.
I had zero worry about any of them.They either had such a low probability of death or were contained/ too hard to spread.This is neither.
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I had zero worry about any of them.They either had such a low probability of death or were contained/ too hard to spread.This is neither.
You are aware that you will be OK aren't you?
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Woohoo I’m in
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Why should we listen to anything this old fart has to say? He's not an expert on epidemiology. He's a Nurse Teacher (whatever the fuck that means). Basically, he's reading articles, and then making youtube videos about what he's read. ???
It appears you are correct. Whilst I'm sure he is an intelligent man, calling him a "doc/expert" is a bit of a stretch. He isn't a medical doctor and is as much an expert on this subject as anyone posting on here.
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You are aware that you will be OK aren't you?
Again, it's the infrastructure and panic I'm worried about.We go in to recessions due to doomy forecasts or a few % drops in housing, stocks etc.What do you think a virus like this would do if it truly catches hold?You'd be talking about a scenario that the developed West has never experienced.
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Singapore is now outright banning anyone from entering the country who has been in mainland China the past two weeks.
Basically they have banned all mainland Chinese. Very few Chinese tourists anywhere at the moment.
A great time to travel.
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so in China there have been almost 76,000 cases, 2,200 deaths and 18,000 recovered?
So have all the other people still got it?
Think about these stats, they would be changing by the second, they are just made up on the spot like 99.9% of all stats
China has around 1.4 billion people.
Even if your stats are out by a factor of 100 , just around 0.5% (1 in 200) of China's populace will have gotten infected.
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Again, it's the infrastructure and panic I'm worried about.We go in to recessions due to doomy forecasts or a few % drops in housing, stocks etc.What do you think a virus like this would do if it truly catches hold?You'd be talking about a scenario that the developed West has never experienced.
we have experienced lots of things that we dealt with...
Seems the best course of action always seems to be do nothing at all....
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It appears you are correct. Whilst I'm sure he is an intelligent man, calling him a "doc/expert" is a bit of a stretch. He isn't a medical doctor and is as much an expert on this subject as anyone posting on here.
What? This doctor is famous for being conservative with his opinions on disease. A quick google search determines he has changed his mind and we should be concerned because of this.
Chances are if you’re reading this you’re already infected.
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Hopefully the Chinese are blockaded and banned from travelling.
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What? This doctor is famous for being conservative with his opinions on disease. A quick google search determines he has changed his mind and we should be concerned because of this.
Chances are if you’re reading this you’re already infected.
I had a flu bug last week, shrugged it off, Im fine now..
here si the Coronavirus WHO website definition of how dangerous it is
As with other respiratory illnesses, infection with 2019-nCoV can cause mild symptoms including a runny nose, sore throat, cough, and fever. It can be more severe for some persons and can lead to pneumonia or breathing difficulties. More rarely, the disease can be fatal. Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as, diabetes and heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
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Hopefully the Chinese are blockaded and banned from travelling.
Too late at this point imho.Incubation period is up to 27 days, so you can spread it for 4 weeks before ever showing signs you have it.Thats why it's now explodng in south korea, Italy and Iran.Also some reports are saying you can be reinfected even if you had it before,but not enough evidence for that so far.
For whatever reason by all reports it's hitting Iran particularly hard.look at these kids trying to breathe in an Iranian hospital.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hectorology/status/1231307525519077377?s=20
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Too late at this point imho.Incubation period is up to 27 days, so you can spread it for 4 weeks before ever showing signs you have it.Thats why it's now explodng in south korea, Italy and Iran.Also some reports are saying you can be reinfected even if you had it before,but not enough evidence for that so far.
For whatever reason by all reports it's hitting Iran particularly hard.look at these kids trying to breathe in an Iranian hospital.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hectorology/status/1231307525519077377?s=20
I hope you are trolling mate..you cant be that dumb to believe that...
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I hope you are trolling mate..you cant be that dumb to believe that...
Dr Campbell, the guy from the original post video, had a livestream tonight.According to the stream he's predicting 60% of UK population will catch CORVID-19 in first year.
66'000'000 x 60%
= 39'600'000
75% mild to moderate
20% severe, requiring oxygen (39'600'000 x 20% = 7'920'000)
5% critical, needing ITU (39'600'000 x 5% = 1'980'000)
If he's right we are fucked.
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Why is Army of One so obsessed with this? ??? ??? ???
It’s not like there is anything he can do about it.
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Why is Army of One so obsessed with this? ??? ??? ???
It’s not like there is anything he can do about it.
What can you do about Queen Vissy?Who will have more effect on your life, Queen Vissy or the coronovirus?Members of my family might die, let's ignore or ridicule it!
I'm seeing some real hidden fear in here by some of these responses.
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gib warned us about this. I bet he's already invested in hazmat suit companies
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gib warned us about this. I bet he's already invested in hazmat suit companies
Build the wall.
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Dr Campbell, the guy from the original post video, had a livestream tonight.According to the stream he's predicting 60% of UK population will catch CORVID-19 in first year.
66'000'000 x 60%
= 39'600'000
75% mild to moderate
20% severe, requiring oxygen (39'600'000 x 20% = 7'920'000)
5% critical, needing ITU (39'600'000 x 5% = 1'980'000)
If he's right we are fucked.
Yes the conservative nurse instructor is gaining multiple views for predicting doom and gloom and the end of the world.
If he’s wrong we will be okay.
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How many views was he getting when he said there was nothing to be concerned about?
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Yes the conservative nurse instructor is gaining multiple views for predicting doom and gloom and the end of the world.
If he’s wrong we will be okay.
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How many views was getting when he said there was nothing to be concerned about?
What about the ease of transmission, speed it's growing, incubation period and complete failure by the world to stop it's spread leads you to believe this thing has any brakes?Serious question.
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What can you do about Queen Vissy?Who will have more effect on your life, Queen Vissy or the coronovirus?Members of my family might die, let's ignore or ridicule it!
I'm seeing some real hidden fear in here by some of these responses.
But nothing you can do about it. Worrying won’t change anything.
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But nothing you can do about it. Worrying won’t change anything.
So we shouldn't talk about it because it scares people?
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So we shouldn't talk about it because it scares people?
We shouldn’t talk about it because it’s a waste of time.
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We shouldn’t talk about it because it’s a waste of time.
Men in thongs isn't a waste of time?
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What about the ease of transmission, speed it's growing, incubation period and complete failure by the world to stop it's spread leads you to believe this thing has any brakes?Serious question.
Where are the bodies?
Surely there are thousands of dead Europeans at the rate it’s spread?
Half of the US is already dead.
If I were you I’d kiss my mom goodbye and tell her you’ve enjoyed living in her basement but you’ve got to experience life because your time on earth is limited.
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Men in thongs isn't a waste of time?
How dare you
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Whatever stats China is given are most likely pure bullshit. They could have a million dead bodies and not admit it. Anyone that has spoken out about the virus in China has disappeared. Fuck those assholes.
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Where are the bodies?
Surely there are thousands of dead Europeans at the rate it’s spread?
Half of the US is already dead.
If I were you I’d kiss my mom goodbye and tell her you’ve enjoyed living in her basement but you’ve got to experience life because your time on earth is limited.
That wasn't an answer.The speed it's spreading is the speed it's spreading.The first cases are starting to appear in EU, which ties in with its geographical distance from China, first cases in China and it's incubation period.Again what makes you think this thing has any brakes?Your first attempt at deflection wasnt very good, surely you can do better?
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Men in thongs isn't a waste of time?
Not at all.
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That wasn't an answer.The speed it's spreading is the speed it's spreading.The first cases are starting to appear in EU, which ties in with its geographical distance from China, first cases in China and it's incubation period.Again what makes you think this thing has any brakes?Your first attempt at deflection wasnt very good, surely you can do better?
Sure. Where are the sick Europeans then? Surely at the rate it’s spreading there are at least a few cases of this disease hitting the EU!
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Sure. Where are the sick Europeans then? Surely at the rate it’s spreading there are at least a few cases of this disease hitting the EU!
???
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???
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Who is providing this information? The CDC? The Chinese? This isn’t trustworthy information.
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Who is providing this information? The CDC? The Chinese? This isn’t trustworthy information.
My cat can put up better arguments than this.
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Just wash your hands
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https://www.aninews.in/news/world/europe/window-of-opportunity-to-contain-coronavirus-outbreak-may-be-closing-who-director-general20200222230556/
https://www.aninews.in/news/world/europe/79-people-infected-with-coronavirus-in-italy20200223044301
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My cat can put up better arguments than this.
Lol well at the rate this disease is spreading your cat is likely to be your only surviving family member.
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Lol well at the rate this disease is spreading your cat is likely to be your only surviving family member.
I might have to leave my basement when all the good getbiggers are wiped out.
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From October 21st 2019 on 4chan
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Dr Campbell, the guy from the original post video, had a livestream tonight.According to the stream he's predicting 60% of UK population will catch CORVID-19 in first year.
66'000'000 x 60%
= 39'600'000
75% mild to moderate
20% severe, requiring oxygen (39'600'000 x 20% = 7'920'000)
5% critical, needing ITU (39'600'000 x 5% = 1'980'000)
If he's right we are fucked.
its a good thing hes wrong then...
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its a good thing hes wrong then...
I really hope so.
11 Italian towns were just put on lockdown from nothing a few days ago.
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I really hope so.
unless you are a 80 year old with chronic heart disease you will be fine
The people on the cruise ship have had it and got better in a couple of weeks, they are now all clear and on their way home..
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unless you are a 80 year old with chronic heart disease you will be fine
The people on the cruise ship have had it and got better in a couple of weeks, they are now all clear and on their way home..
Again it isn't the virus killing me that worries me.If that doctor is correct our whole country will collapse.
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"My Graph of the confirmed cases in Europe day by day.
The last two surges are Italy only.
I can guarantee you that the mortality rate in Europe is 10%.
Of the 123 registered cases, 32 have been "recovered" and 3 have died.
Of the 35 cases in which an "end" has been declared, 3 died, 32 got well.
Mortality rate in Europe so far: 10%"
If this % carries on then China really were lying about number of deaths.
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Personally I could give a "Prime" about China.
FTN.
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Rome just now
https://mobile.twitter.com/GrainStats/status/1231299302657576962?s=20
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This is not like the flu! The seasonal flu does not get China to quarantine 700 million people, this is most likely an escaped bioweapon and if you just shrug it off and ignore it don’t be surprised when you’re struggling to survive. You were warned. Coincidentally, Bill Gates recently held a war game type scenario where a coronavirus kills 65 million people. That was back in October, look it up it was called Event 201.
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This is not like the flu! The seasonal flu does not get China to quarantine 700 million people, this is most likely an escaped bioweapon and if you just shrug it off and ignore it don’t be surprised when you’re struggling to survive. You were warned. Coincidentally, Bill Gates recently held a war game type scenario where a coronavirus kills 65 million people. That was back in October, look it up it was called Event 201.
People's reactions and denial of this have been very interesting to watch.My personal theory is that most people in the west are so narcissistic, and feel so safe and invincible, that this shit scares them to the very core that they could be wiped out or the economy of their country collapse within a year.It was always something poor Africans had to deal with, and now it's knocking at their door they can't cope.
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People's reactions and denial of this have been very interesting to watch.My personal theory is that most people in the west are so narcissistic, and feel so safe and invincible, that this shit scares them to the very core that they could be wiped out or the economy of their country collapse within a year.It was always something poor Africans had to deal with, and now it's knocking at their door they can't cope.
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The west can’t cope? We just came out of the worst economic slump since the Great Depression.
If it’s as bad as you say THERE IS ZERO THAT CAN BE DONE. You’re not worried about dying you’re worried about the economy collapsing, neither of which you have any control over.
We have random school shootings, Walmart shootings, workplace shootings etc... but you think we feel invincible?
Coronovirus is the new Nibru.
The internet is serious business.
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Correct. I warned about this mid January on the earlier thread “two things you don’t want to hear” where there were some absolute morons thinking that “the virus won’t get us in America”.
It is correct that likely a very large % of the world, especially those in big cities globally, will be exposed.
As for the mortality rate, this is, for various reasons, hard to both measure and predict. This is because the vast majority of those infected don’t ever get tested as positive or even seek medical advice. And secondly because symptoms of infected vary hugely. From my own knowledge and sources I can tell you the rate of directly caused death to those actually infected could be around 1/10000. There are many people, especially kids, are almost entirely asymptotic (yet are fully infected and also are spreaders). For those who are infected and who are ill enough that they actually seek medical attention rate could be 1/1000. And for those who are elderly, smokers, immune compromised, already have pre-existing organ problems, rate could be as high as 4-5%.
These numbers are huge, if (as I have told you and warned) a significant number of global population get infected.
Any (non-idiot) questions let me know and I will answer. This happens to be a field where I know a significant amount and have global insights (both on the health side, geopolitical, and economic).
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People's reactions and denial of this have been very interesting to watch.My personal theory is that most people in the west are so narcissistic, and feel so safe and invincible, that this shit scares them to the very core that they could be wiped out or the economy of their country collapse within a year.It was always something poor Africans had to deal with, and now it's knocking at their door they can't cope.
It's not denial or narcissism. It's critical thinking and looking at the facts we have. We don't know yet how deadly it really is as that's impossible to know at this stage. We don't know how many people have the virus because many may have zero or just mild symptoms and not be tested. We are starting to see patterns, but don't yet for sure know if the virus hits certain populations harder than others. We don't know exactly how long the virus can live on surfaces. We don't know what medications or treatments may really help in treating this although some countries have reported that HIV medications seem to help. Just like Gib, you are saying a lot of stuff that hasn't been verified by any official agencies. This, just like a lot of things in the world, is something that is dangerous and something we need to educate ourselves about as information comes out. Maybe doing some reading has really scared you, but I can tell you that the best thing to do is to practice good hygiene habits, especially when out in public. Suggesting that the world is going to be thrust into chaos and rioting is just ridiculous and means you have watched way too many movies.
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Correct. I warned about this mid January on the earlier thread “two things you don’t want to hear” where there were some absolute morons thinking that “the virus won’t get us in America”.
It is correct that likely a very large % of the world, especially those in big cities globally, will be exposed.
As for the mortality rate, this is, for various reasons, hard to both measure and predict. This is because the vast majority of those infected don’t ever get tested as positive or even seek medical advice. And secondly because symptoms of infected vary hugely. From my own knowledge and sources I can tell you the rate of directly caused death to those actually infected could be around 1/10000. There are many people, especially kids, are almost entirely asymptotic (yet are fully infected and also are spreaders). For those who are infected and who are ill enough that they actually seek medical attention rate could be 1/1000. And for those who are elderly, smokers, immune compromised, already have pre-existing organ problems, rate could be as high as 4-5%.
These numbers are huge, if (as I have told you and warned) a significant number of global population get infected.
Any (non-idiot) questions let me know and I will answer. This happens to be a field where I know a significant amount and have global insights (both on the health side, geopolitical, and economic).
Good post Gib.What do you think about the doctors numbers I posted above that theorised 60% of the UK could be infected within a year, and I assume similar numbers in the usa per his theory?Also how true is it you can be reinfected right after you survived the first infection?
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Yes that's true and I'll grieve, but then I'll get over it.
How cavalier of you. You might be grieving for yourself and not get over it until it kills you.
Women are less likely to die from this virus because they generally have stronger immune systems. Anyone with a weak immune system is at greater risk of complications including death from COVID-19. I'm no expert, but if you are a person who gets the flu fairly often, you could be more likely to contact COVID-19.
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The west can’t cope? We just came out of the worst economic slump since the Great Depression.
If it’s as bad as you say THERE IS ZERO THAT CAN BE DONE. You’re not worried about dying you’re worried about the economy collapsing, neither of which you have any control over.
We have random school shootings, Walmart shootings, workplace shootings etc... but you think we feel invincible?
Coronovirus is the new Nibru.
The internet is serious business.
Are you really comparing an economic slump to a virus that could wipe out a large amount of the population?also 512 people died in mass shootings last year in the usa....out of 327 million people.About the same odds getting shot and killed in a mass shooting as getting hit by lightning.
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Everyone focused on Russia and the chinks attacked from behind!! :o
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Good post Gib.What do you think about the doctors numbers I posted above that theorised 60% of the UK could be infected within a year, and I assume similar numbers in the usa per his theory?Also how true is it you can be reinfected right after you survived the first infection?
I think these numbers of % of infected are quite possible. Now that does not mean we will have a scene of mass zombie-like deaths in the street. But rather, more like influenza (although somewhat worse in terms of death rate, and definitely worse in terms of economic effect and societal fear).
With many viruses, a person can be “re-infected”. Usually if it’s the same strain or a similar strain the impact on the busy will be less severe than initial exposure. As for those supposedly “re-infected” with Covid, what more likely occurred is that a person who was infected largely recovered, only for symptoms to re-emerge. Legitimate “re-infections” might occur in a year or so and or with slight mutations of the original strain.
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I’m signing off get burglars as I’m heading to my underground lair and WiFi isn’t very good.I will check on the outside world in a Few years once this corona virus clears up.good luck to all.
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Why don't you just put yourself in a position where you might benefit from it if that happens..
What do you envision those benefits being?
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How cavalier of you. You might be grieving for yourself and not get over it until it kills you.
Women are less likely to die from this virus because they generally have stronger immune systems. Anyone with a weak immune system is at greater risk of complications including death from COVID-19. I'm no expert, but if you are a person who gets the flu fairly often, you could be more likely to contact COVID-19.
Plenty of other things out there that can kill me too. I'll minimize risk in areas I have control over and get on with things. I'm definitely not gonna lose any sleep over it though.
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This is not like the flu! The seasonal flu does not get China to quarantine 700 million people, this is most likely an escaped bioweapon and if you just shrug it off and ignore it don’t be surprised when you’re struggling to survive. You were warned. Coincidentally, Bill Gates recently held a war game type scenario where a coronavirus kills 65 million people. That was back in October, look it up it was called Event 201.
So since you’re not ignoring it, what are you doing about it?
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Are you really comparing an economic slump to a virus that could wipe out a large amount of the population?also 512 people died in mass shootings last year in the usa....out of 327 million people.About the same odds getting shot and killed in a mass shooting as getting hit by lightning.
Yup. Watch the news. Horror all around.
You said the economy will collapse and that the West is acting like we are immune. I’m only commenting on your nonsensical statements.
You’re terrified that the elderly and smokers dying will collapse the economy.
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it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
I remember how feared and misunderstood HIV was. People, including medical professionals thought is much easier to contact then it actually was (hepatitis is far easier to get because it has a much longer lifespan outside a host). I remember a co-worker saying in all seriousness, that all gay people should be rounded up and put in isolated camps. Not because he disliked gay people. Because he was afraid of catching HIV.
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This is not like the flu! The seasonal flu does not get China to quarantine 700 million people, this is most likely an escaped bioweapon and if you just shrug it off and ignore it don’t be surprised when you’re struggling to survive. You were warned. Coincidentally, Bill Gates recently held a war game type scenario where a coronavirus kills 65 million people. That was back in October, look it up it was called Event 201.
What information that China releases do we trust? Could 700 million really be 1 BILLION? What else are they hiding?
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Just wash your hands
-Best defense there is with the exception of airborne diseases which the Coronavirus is.
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What do you envision those benefits being?
Ask gibs. I don't like to make forecasts and predictions when it involves money. But it's really not too hard to workout what to do if you think the economy is gonna tank.
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People's reactions and denial of this have been very interesting to watch.My personal theory is that most people in the west are so narcissistic, and feel so safe and invincible, that this shit scares them to the very core that they could be wiped out or the economy of their country collapse within a year.It was always something poor Africans had to deal with, and now it's knocking at their door they can't cope.
You could be very right about this. Denial is the way to go until you catch it.
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Yup. Watch the news. Horror all around.
You said the economy will collapse and that the West is acting like we are immune. I’m only commenting on your nonsensical statements.
You’re terrified that the elderly and smokers dying will collapse the economy.
What do you think will happens when the hospitals fill up?When people start rioting because their parents and dying and there are no more beds?When a 3rd of the workforce are not working as they are quarantined?When the stores have no food because it's all seen to be contaminated?When the stock market has collapsed in panic?When 50% of the doctors are ill and there are 10x the amount of patients they are used to?When banks start collapsing?When the police are so stretched thin that every Hebrew starts looting and robbing?When there is no school for the kids as it's too risky to be infected?When nobody attends NBA,NFL,NHL games and they can't afford to keep playing just for TV?When nobody is attending college?Nobody is picking up your garbage, delivering your mail.etc etc etc
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What do you think will happens when the hospitals fill up?When people start rioting because their parents and dying and there are no more beds?When a 3rd of the workforce are not working as they are quarantined?When the stores have no food because it's all seen to be contaminated?When the stock market has collapsed in panic?When 50% of the doctors are ill and there are 10x the amount of patients they are used to?When banks start collapsing?When the police are so stretched thin that every Hebrew starts looting and robbing?When there is no school for the kids as it's too risky to be infected?When nobody attends NBA,NFL,NHL games and they can't afford to keep playing just for TV?When nobody is attending college?Nobody is picking up your garbage, delivering your mail.etc etc etc
50% of doctors? Where are you pulling this stuff out off?
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50% of doctors? Where are you pulling this stuff out off?
Make it 10% if you want, it really won't matter with the amount of work they will have on their hands.
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Plenty of other things out there that can kill me too. I'll minimize risk in areas I have control over and get on with things. I'm definitely not gonna lose any sleep over it though.
I think you missed my point. You said, 'Yes that's true and I'll grieve, but then I'll get over it." As if to say, you getting the virus is unthinkable although you acknowledge other people might not only get it they may die from it.
It's pretty clear you aren't worried. At this point, neither am I. Anyway, lack of sleep, lowers one's immune system. What things do you think you'll do to minimize your risk?
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What do you think will happens when the hospitals fill up?When people start rioting because their parents and dying and there are no more beds?When a 3rd of the workforce are not working as they are quarantined?When the stores have no food because it's all seen to be contaminated?When the stock market has collapsed in panic?When 50% of the doctors are ill and there are 10x the amount of patients they are used to?When banks start collapsing?When the police are so stretched thin that every Hebrew starts looting and robbing?When there is no school for the kids as it's too risky to be infected?When nobody attends NBA,NFL,NHL games and they can't afford to keep playing just for TV?When nobody is attending college?Nobody is picking up your garbage, delivering your mail.etc etc etc
What do you think will happens when the hospitals fill up?When people start rioting because their parents and dying and there are no more beds?When a 3rd of the workforce are not working as they are quarantined?When the stores have no food because it's all seen to be contaminated?When the stock market has collapsed in panic?When 50% of the doctors are ill and there are 10x the amount of patients they are used to?When banks start collapsing?When the police are so stretched thin that every Hebrew starts looting and robbing?When there is no school for the kids as it's too risky to be infected?When nobody attends NBA,NFL,NHL games and they can't afford to keep playing just for TV?When nobody is attending college?etc etc etc
The horror!
Do you live in the real world? Do you have a job? Do you interact with people on a daily basis?
You’ve obviously never been to America. You don’t realize what Americans will do and how far they will push their self.
The NFL, NBA, MLB and every other sports league could shut down tomorrow and people will find something else to do and spend their time and money on.
I can’t comment on half your nonsense. You act like the walking dead is real life. Or maybe this is divine intervention and this is the book of revelation coming to fruition, in which case you should be scared.
You’re a strange dude.
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I think you missed my point. You said, 'Yes that's true and I'll grieve, but then I'll get over it." As if to say, you getting the virus is unthinkable although you acknowledge other people might not only get it they may die from it.
It's pretty clear you aren't worried. At this point, neither am I. Anyway, lack of sleep, lowers one's immune system. What things do you think you'll do to minimize your risk?
Absolute number 1 thing you should do, and do it now before they sell out in the next 2 weeks, is buy a pulse oximeter that measures the amount of oxygen in your blood.Clearest way to tell you have the coronovirus is that your blood oxygen level drops below 90%.97-100% is normal.
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Ask gibs. I don't like to make forecasts and predictions when it involves money. But it's really not too hard to workout what to do if you think the economy is gonna tank.
Unfortunately, the world economy is built on expansion, including expanding populations. If the population were to be greatly reduced, they would be a negative financial impact. There would be an abundance of product and few people to buy it which would tank its value.
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Make it 10% if you want, it really won't matter with the amount of work they will have on their hands.
You're talking about people in the west are so narcissistic, and people not being able to cope. You're actually giving us a great example of this in this very thread.
People die regardless, this virus might just cut short some peoples time here by a decade or so. But this isn't a plague and humans aren't going go extinct cos of it.
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Kobe Bryant got out just in time.
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Absolute number 1 thing you should do, and do it now before they sell out in the next 2 weeks, is buy a pulse oximeter that measures the amount of oxygen in your blood.Clearest way to tell you have the coronovirus is that your blood oxygen level drops below 90%.97-100% is normal.
Lucky me, I have one of those. I use it daily. My blood oxygen level is consistently in the high 90's. I also take my blood pressure daily. rarely exceeds 120/80 and is usually 5 to 10 points lower. My pulse is generally in the low 60's and my heartbeat reads a regular 99% of the time, (which isn't bad since I have AFib).
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I think you missed my point. You said, 'Yes that's true and I'll grieve, but then I'll get over it." As if to say, you getting the virus is unthinkable although you acknowledge other people might not only get it they may die from it.
It's pretty clear you aren't worried. At this point, neither am I. Anyway, lack of sleep, lowers one's immune system. What things do you think you'll do to minimize your risk?
I was responding to a post where Army suggested I was be safe, but certain family members wouldn't be. Which in turn was a response to a post on people who might die.
So my response was based on a vulnerable family member dying.
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You're talking about people in the west are so narcissistic, and people not being able to cope. You're actually giving us a great example of this in this very thread.
People die regardless, this virus might just cut short some peoples time here by a decade or so. But this isn't a plague and humans aren't going go extinct cos of it.
Yes the west can’t cope with the unknown.
What was the last natural disaster to hit Europe? A hurricane, earthquake, wildfire?
The rest of the world has it figured out. Post on getbig and buy a pulse oximeter.
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You're talking about people in the west are so narcissistic, and people not being able to cope. You're actually giving us a great example of this in this very thread.
People die regardless, this virus might just cut short some peoples time here by a decade or so. But this isn't a plague and humans aren't going go extinct cos of it.
I'm coping fine, I'm open to talking about it, and accepting where it might lead.Denial and narcissism is "I'm American, it won't hurt me" and "it only happens to weak Asians and Africans".if I was narcissistic I wouldn't be accepting my mortality ,id be thinking I was superior and be in denial that it could affect me, like half the posters In this thread.Its a bodybuilding board full of men who started lifting to be admired, it shouldn't be a huge shock.
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>Black Death
>starts in China
>goes through Middle East
>hits an Italian port and spreads to Europe
>Coronovirus
>starts in China
>hit the Middle East
>now in Italy
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Unfortunately, the world economy is built on expansion, including expanding populations. If the population were to be greatly reduced, they would be a negative financial impact. There would be an abundance of product and few people to buy it which would tank its value.
At the same time think of the economic benefits 5 years down the line if large numbers of the elderly population were wiped out in the next 2 years.
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There's a few folks here that have the Bolognavirus.
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I'm coping fine, I'm open to talking about it, and accepting where it might lead.Denial and narcissism is "I'm American, it won't hurt me" and "it only happens to weak Asians and Africans".if I was narcissistic I wouldn't be accepting my mortality ,id be thinking I was superior and be in denial that it could affect me, like half the posters In this thread.Its a bodybuilding board full of men who started lifting to be admired, it shouldn't be a huge shock.
Everyone dies. You’re not afraid of dying you’re afraid of the economy collapsing.
No one has said they’re superior we’ve only asked you to calm down.
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Everyone dies. You’re not afraid of dying you’re afraid of the economy collapsing.
No one has said they’re superior we’ve only asked you to calm down.
I'm afraid of the societal fallout of the economy and infrastructure collapsing.As was said in the pellius thread, I've always said people are 2-4 weeks without food or electricity from doing very bad things to survive.
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Ask gibs. I don't like to make forecasts and predictions when it involves money. But it's really not too hard to workout what to do if you think the economy is gonna tank.
That‘s right. And I think you have your answer already.
I would say two things though. These days bad news ultimately = good news for the markets as it results in stimulus and money printing and lower borrowing rates. So be careful if trying to short anything. Secondly, life does (and will) go on. Companies will recover from short term negative impact. If investors over react and sell off on short term fears, prices of good value may emerge.
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So since you’re not ignoring it, what are you doing about it?
You prepare for the worst and hope for the best, have 2 months worth of food and essential supplies.
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You prepare for the worst and hope for the best, have 2 months worth of food and essential supplies.
This sounds like fear mongering.
So, basically, despite your fear, you’re really helpless against the disease, other than stocking up canned peas and carrots.
This is why I said that worrying about it is pointless because none of us could really do anything about it. But if buying canned goods makes you feel more comfortable, so be it.
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This sounds like fear mongering.
So, basically, despite your fear, you’re really helpless against the disease, other than stocking up canned peas and carrots.
This is why I said that worrying about it is pointless because none of us could really do anything about it. But if buying canned goods makes you feel more comfortable, so be it.
Actually there are a range of things you can do to increase rate of survival if infected.
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This sounds like fear mongering.
So, basically, despite your fear, you’re really helpless against the disease, other than stocking up canned peas and carrots.
This is why I said that worrying about it is pointless because none of us could really do anything about it. But if buying canned goods makes you feel more comfortable, so be it.
You can wash your hands for 20 seconds, scrubbing vigorously, before having any food or touching your face or after coming inside
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Actually there are a range of things you can do to increase rate of survival if infected.
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This thread is full of nonsense. Quit listening to Gib, army of one, myself or anyone else here. Go to the CDC and WHO websites and get your information there.
If you want additional, here's the youtube for a practicing pulmonologist who gives no nonsense factual info and has been updating on the coronavirus outbreak daily.
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Where is your faith in Jesus?
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Where is your faith in Jesus?
A number of churches have had outbreaks among their flock. So Jesus not really helping em at this point.
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This thread is full of nonsense. Quit listening to Gib, army of one, myself or anyone else here. Go to the CDC and WHO websites and get your information there.
If you want additional, here's the youtube for a practicing pulmonologist who gives no nonsense factual info and has been updating on the coronavirus outbreak daily.
WHO has lost a huge amount of credibility. Please read my comments on other thread and you will understand.
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Maintain the basis of good health so you are best able to fight it when hit. Don’t smoke. Get sufficient sleep. Get plenty of sunlight. Healthy and balanced diet. Regular daily cardio vascular exercise.
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A number of churches have had outbreaks among their flock. So Jesus not really helping em at this point.
Maybe they lack faith?
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Now I'm getting some feverish symptoms....
Fuck you Army of Kwon >:(
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Here's some detailed Chinese stats of the infected broken down by age. Seems like the number one target of coronavirus is old (chinese) men.
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Actually there are a range of things you can do to increase rate of survival if infected.
Yeah go to the doctor/ER, dingus.
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You want to boost your immune system? Forget about your 8 meals a day and fast. Limit your meals to 1-2 at most per day. Eat highly nutritious animal food raised on their natural food not corn/soy and other grains. Have liver from grass fed beef. Walk barefoot for the most of the year.
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Where is your faith in Jesus?
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Just wash your hands
You mean asshole?
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This thread is full of nonsense. Quit listening to Gib, army of one, myself or anyone else here. Go to the CDC and WHO websites and get your information there.
If you want additional, here's the youtube for a practicing pulmonologist who gives no nonsense factual info and has been updating on the coronavirus outbreak daily.
WHO are the biggest crew of lefty dipshits on the planet....
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Here's some detailed Chinese stats of the infected broken down by age. Seems like the number one target of coronavirus is old (chinese) men.
Thank you. I confirm this is relatively accurate.
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Everyone focused on Russia and the chinks attacked from behind!! :o
They attacked by killing their own people? ???
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A few days ago many italians were happily living their lives, now they are on lockdown, can't leave their towns and some cases houses, their football matches are starting to be canceled etc.This could literally happen anywhere in the world within the next few weeks.Stocking up on a few tins of food and some rice and beans would be wise.
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A few days ago many italians were happily living their lives, now they are on lockdown, can't leave their towns and some cases houses, their football matches are starting to be canceled etc.This could literally happen anywhere in the world within the next few weeks.Stocking up on a few tins of food and some rice and beans would be wise.
I'm stocking up on Flex Magazine, protein bars and printing out Kwon's photos of women with thick asses. I guess we all need different things to survive.
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I'm stocking up on Flex Magazine, protein bars and printing out Kwon's photos of women with thick asses. I guess we all need different things to survive.
Have you organised a dedicated fiber optic link to Queen Vissy's Facebook page?
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Maintain the basis of good health so you are best able to fight it when hit. Don’t smoke. Get sufficient sleep. Get plenty of sunlight. Healthy and balanced diet. Regular daily cardio vascular exercise.
I see.
So basically........
Lead a normal life. :D
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137 now infected in Italy, schools are starting to shutdown.By the accounts in Italy it's alot of kids infected too.3 cases to 137 in a couple of days.The irony is this spread days/weeks ago and the first infected are starting to show signs as the incubation period is so long.Thats why locking people down wont do much.Time to start waking up.
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Is it Nibiru trying to weed out the weak?
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137 now infected in Italy, schools are starting to shutdown.By the accounts in Italy it's alot of kids infected too.3 cases to 137 in a couple of days.The irony is this spread days/weeks ago and the first infected are starting to show signs as the incubation period is so long.Thats why locking people down wont do much.Time to start waking up.
Waking up to what?
Either way, there is nothing you can do about it. Whether you are right or wrong, will not prevent you from getting the actual virus.
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Waking up to what?
Either way, there is nothing you can do about it. Whether you are right or wrong, will not prevent you from getting the actual virus.
Agreed. Worrying about this will not add a thing to your life.
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Waking up to what?
Either way, there is nothing you can do about it. Whether you are right or wrong, will not prevent you from getting the actual virus.
They cancelled football matches. It's the end of civilization as we know it!
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Waking up to what?
Either way, there is nothing you can do about it. Whether you are right or wrong, will not prevent you from getting the actual virus.
Stop saying there's nothing you can do about it.Buy a pulse oximeter, stock up on 1-2 months of rice and beans, vit c tabs, ibuprofen and paracetamol.Buy a face mask.Have multiple sources of internet connection, some large power banks, flashlights.Stop smoking if you do.Be ready to pull your kids out of school.Start making plans to remote work if possible.Avoid all public transport from this point on if you can.Avoid large gatherings if you can. Do all this and your chances of survival are far greater than not doing any of it.Or ignore it all, mock it and be crying in a few weeks that you didn't listen.
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Agreed. Worrying about this will not add a thing to your life.
Everything the CDC recommends, I already do—wash your hands regularly, goid hygiene, etc.
What else can I do, other than live in a bubble or never leave my home. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ I’m not saying this is not an important thing, but worrying about it or discussing it to no end seems rather pointless.
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Stop saying there's nothing you can do about it.Buy a pulse oximeter, stock up on 1-2 months of rice and beans, vit c tabs, ibuprofen and paracetamol.Buy a face mask.Have multiple sources of internet connection, some large power banks, flashlights.Stop smoking if you do.Be ready to pull your kids out of school.Start making plans to remote work if possible.Avoid all public transport from this point on if you can.Avoid large gatherings if you can. Do all this and your chances of survival are far greater than not doing any of it.
I already do most of those things.
So, now what do I do?
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Stop saying there's nothing you can do about it.Buy a pulse oximeter, stock up on 1-2 months of rice and beans, vit c tabs, ibuprofen and paracetamol.Buy a face mask.Have multiple sources of internet connection, some large power banks, flashlights.Stop smoking if you do.Be ready to pull your kids out of school.Start making plans to remote work if possible.Avoid all public transport from this point on if you can.Avoid large gatherings if you can. Do all this and your chances of survival are far greater than not doing any of it.Or ignore it all, mock it and be crying in a few weeks that you didn't listen.
Terrible advice. You should go out and purposefully infect yourself with the virus and spread it amongst your family, so if you or they suffer complications you can seek out medical assistance before all the doctors themselves die from it.
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They cancelled football matches. It's the end of civilization as we know it!
As long as Ironmeister is healthy to continue making photoshops of Tbombz, then life is good!
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They attacked by killing their own people? ???
By releasing it publicly, yes. Look at how far it's traveled.
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There's some hysterical overreaction in this thread, maybe some WHO experts are getbiggers?
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Latest research shows it survives for 9 days on surfaces.
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2334-6-130
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32035997
tapwater can be contaminated because the virus can be spread via urine and feces. it's rather unlikely but during a big breakdown, even groundwater could get contaminated and if your community gets the tapwater from reservoirs on the surface it's rather likely. not sure if boiling helps but i would assume that.
If you are buying any food from supermarkets like bread or vegetables etc, be aware if someone infected coughs on it, the virus will live on it for 9 days.
Latest reports from the ground in Wuhan show the situation getting worse.
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Latest research shows it survives for 9 days on surfaces.
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2334-6-130
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32035997
tapwater can be contaminated because the virus can be spread via urine and feces. it's rather unlikely but during a big breakdown, even groundwater could get contaminated and if your community gets the tapwater from reservoirs on the surface it's rather likely. not sure if boiling helps but i would assume that.
If you are buying any food from supermarkets like bread or vegetables etc, be aware if someone infected coughs on it, the virus will live on it for 9 days.
Latest reports from the ground in Wuhan show the situation getting worse.
Army of One, you never answered my question.
Most of the suggestions you posted, I’m already doing.
So, what should I do now?
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Army of One, you never answered my question.
Most of the suggestions you posted, I’m already doing.
So, what should I do now?
You are in the minority so good job.I can't invent things because you have sensibly covered all bases.
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There's some hysterical overreaction in this thread, maybe some WHO experts are getbiggers?
The White House and CDC think large scale infection in the USA is likely but "harmankardon1" from getbig says it's an overreaction.ok.
http://archive.is/fxQOP
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The White House and CDC think large scale infection in the usa is likely but "harmankardon1" from getbig says it's an overreaction.ok.
http://archive.is/fxQOP
Correction Trump does - why ? becuase he is not corrupted. The WHO and the rest of these agencies are all corrupted.
The WHO - does anyone trust a word those fuks say ???
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Bunch of worry warts. ::)
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This is what as of today it sounds like in Wuhan, like something out of a horror movie.
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Supermarkets in Italy.Schools closing, sporting events cancelled,Venice carnival cancelled.towns on lockdown......
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This guy called all this 3 weeks ago.The rest of his post should scare the shit out of you if your IQ is above 100.
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So it could be like the Spanish Flu, one third of the population dies.
My grandfather was a child at the time, and said that people would come to the houses with horse-drawn carts to pick up the bodies. Literally piles of bodies getting carted away.
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So it could be like the Spanish Flu, one third of the population dies.
My grandfather was a child at the time, and said that people would come to the houses with horse-drawn carts to pick up the bodies. Literally piles of bodies getting carted away.
There are streets in China where this already happened.Theres videos of bodies just laying outside homes lining the whole street, waiting to be picked up.
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There are streets in China where this already happened.Theres videos of bodies just laying outside homes lining the whole street, waiting to be picked up.
Links?
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Links?
Like the post I linked above, it's far safer for everyone to lie than create mass panic.I see why they do it but it's terrible for getting populations to prepare.
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Like the post I linked above, it's far safer for everyone to lie than create mass panic.I see why they do it but it's terrible for getting populations to prepare.
This video looks like homeless sleeping against closed businesses. Not a single mourner, nor any memorial artifacts like flowers or pictures?
The other video almost looks like some sort or power outage or something similar.
Anything more concrete that people are dying by the thousands and the Chinese are covering it up?
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This video looks like homeless sleeping against closed businesses. Not a single mourner, nor any memorial artifacts like flowers or pictures?
The other video almost looks like some sort or power outage or something similar.
Anything more concrete that people are dying by the thousands and the Chinese are covering it up?
How many homeless people have you seen sleeping on their backs with a sheet not only covering their bodies but also their heads?And the other video was to show the pure panic and breakdown.As I keep saying it isn't the virus you want to worry about most, it's the complete breakdown of infrastructure and society that could potentially occur.
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Faith is what's needed, Faith in Jesus Christ
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Faith is what's needed, Faith in Jesus Christ
Bro...
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This sounds like fear mongering.
So, basically, despite your fear, you’re really helpless against the disease, other than stocking up canned peas and carrots.
This is why I said that worrying about it is pointless because none of us could really do anything about it. But if buying canned goods makes you feel more comfortable, so be it.
Every so often what appears to be the doomsday end of mankind comes along. People go nuts building survival kits. I've often wondered what they think they'd be living for? A new beginning or a living hell? Others must think about it too because every so often there is a movie or a television show that plays into this fear.
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50% of doctors? Where are you pulling this stuff out off?
Your lack of foresight is disturbing.
https://www.leggo.it/italia/cronache/coronavirus_infermiere_codogno_non_vero_tutto_sotto_controllo_panico_assoluto-5070335.html
absolute terror
nurse working in locked down hospital says :the situation is not under control at all, there's widespread panic. don't believe what they're telling you
the doctors are getting infected, there's the risk they'll run out of personnel
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Bro...
Mark 16:18
they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."(NIV)
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Your lack of foresight is disturbing.
https://www.leggo.it/italia/cronache/coronavirus_infermiere_codogno_non_vero_tutto_sotto_controllo_panico_assoluto-5070335.html
absolute terror
nurse working in locked down hospital says :the situation is not under control at all, there's widespread panic. don't believe what they're telling you
the doctors are getting infected, there's the risk they'll run out of personnell
That's still not showing me the 50% of doctors you claimed would die
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That's still not showing me the 50% of doctors you claimed would die
I never said they would die.Learn to read.They just need to not be able to work for shit to hit the fan.
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You can wash your hands for 20 seconds, scrubbing vigorously, before having any food or touching your face or after coming inside
You could do these things, but would you? Are you sure you always wash your hands for 20 seconds before you touch your face? Do you time your hand washing? Most often the food you eat has been handled by a number of unknown hands. How does washing your hands protect you from an airborne virus like the Coronovirus? Washing one's hands is a good practice. It is not a panacea for every contagion we encounter on a daily, or even hourly basis.
Some people are obsessive germaphobes. They spend much of their lives worrying about catching something. Even if they could create an absolutely sterile environment they'd probably continue to fret about germs and cleanliness. Most people's immune system needs some exposure to germs in order to develop its natural immunity.
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A number of churches have had outbreaks among their flock. So Jesus not really helping em at this point.
There's a saying that goes, God helps those that help themselves.
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I never said they would die.Learn to read.They just need to not be able to work for shit to hit the fan.
You've posted have the rubbish in this thread. Most are just laughing at your meltdown and not paying attention to what you post.
Show us the 50% that you claimed wouldn't be ill then. Or like most things you've posted did you pull that out of your ass?
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Agreed. Worrying about this will not add a thing to your life.
It will add additional worry. That's a thing. It's not a good thing though, since stress and worry can make people more susceptible to physical illnesses.
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You've posted have the rubbish in this thread. Most are just laughing at your meltdown and not paying attention to what you post.
Show us the 50% that you claimed wouldn't be ill then. Or like most things you've posted did you pull that out of your ass?
I can't tell if it's pure denial, low IQ, or both with you.
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Where is your faith in Jesus? Gosh, smh...
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How many homeless people have you seen sleeping on their backs with a sheet not only covering their bodies but also their heads?And the other video was to show the pure panic and breakdown.As I keep saying it isn't the virus you want to worry about most, it's the complete breakdown of infrastructure and society that could potentially occur.
Quite often here in LA. If they were dead, where is the grief?
I agree, the breakdown of society and lawlessness is a bigger concern than the Chinese flu.
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Quite often here in LA. If they were dead, where is the grief?
I agree, the breakdown of society and lawlessness is a bigger concern than the Chinese flu.
It's the Chinese, they don't help people in the street who have been run over, and until recently some would reverse back over people they hit as it was less expensive to kill them than pay their medical fees.Also when death is everywhere and you are worried about saving your own life, it takes on less meaning, people get hardened to it.Same thing with War.
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Quite often here in LA. If they were dead, where is the grief?
I agree, the breakdown of society and lawlessness is a bigger concern than the Chinese flu.
Some people HATE homeless people, even kill them or beat them with baseball bats. My friend once told me of how much he hates homeless people, he calls them ''bums''. So some people actually rejoice when the homeless people die
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I can't tell if it's pure denial, low IQ, or both with you.
Still waiting for you to back up your statement.
50%!
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Some people HATE homeless people, even kill them or beat them with baseball bats. My friend once told me of how much he hates homeless people, he calls them ''bums''. So some people actually rejoice when the homeless people die
I didnt know you knew pellius...
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So it could be like the Spanish Flu, one third of the population dies.
My grandfather was a child at the time, and said that people would come to the houses with horse-drawn carts to pick up the bodies. Literally piles of bodies getting carted away.
You're thinking of the plague ::)
Spanish flu 40-100 million was hardly a third of the population.
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Still waiting for you to back up your statement.
50%!
It's simple, many top level doctors and medical professionals are predicting a 60% infection rate of the population.In a hospital where everyone is crammed in and it has a much higher concentration of infected people?50% is likely low balling it.
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I didnt know you knew pellius...
Oh idk who that is
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It's simple, many top level doctors and medical professionals are predicting a 60% infection rate of the population.In a hospital where everyone is crammed in and it has a much higher concentration of infected people?50% is likely low balling it.
Like the "Doctor/expert" in your original post who isn't actually a medical doctor or expert on the subject?
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Like the "Doctor/expert" in your original post who isn't actually a medical doctor or expert on the subject?
You can ignore the CDC and the white house if you want.Ill be sure to quote all your posts in a few weeks.Being contrarian in this scenario is bizarre to me,I get the trolling about everything else on Getbig, but this has a very real chance of fucking up your life like never before, at worst you prepare and waste 100 dollars, or you prepare and save your life.
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You can ignore the CDC and the white house if you want.Ill be sure to quote all your posts in a few weeks.Being contrarian in this scenario is bizarre to me, this has a very real chance of fucking up your life like never before, at worst you prepare and waste 100 dollars or you prepare and save your life.
What are you gonna quote exactly? I've not said the virus won't cause issues, quite the opposite actually.
I've said you're pulling shitty info out of your ass. You should be able to back that up now, not in 3 weeks.
Anyone with common sense would have medications, cash at hand, water etc good to go year round. Coronavirus doesn't really change anything.
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Where is your faith, oh you, of little faith, smh
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What are you gonna quote exactly. I've not said the virus won't cause issues, quite the opposite actually.
I've said you're pulling shitty info out of your ass. You should be able to back that up now, not in 3 weeks.
Anyone with common sense would have medications, cash at hand, water etc good to go year round. Coronavirus doesn't really change anything.
How am I pulling info out of my ass ,when not 24 hours after I said hospitals would be fucked with a large portion of the doctors going down, a nurse comes out and says they are fucked as a large portion of their doctors are going down?It just made you look like the retard you are, who can't think for himself.
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Supermarket shelves will look like this all over the world in a few weeks.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BonettiESPN/status/1231642228961021952
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Supermarket shelves will look like this all over the world in a few weeks.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BonettiESPN/status/1231642228961021952
still 7 packs of pasta left :D
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How am I pulling info out of my ass ,when not 24 hours after I said hospitals would be fucked with a large portion of the doctors going down, a nurse comes out and says they are fucked as a large portion of their doctors are going down?It just made you look like the retard you are, who can't think for himself.
I can't think for myself yet it's you posting youtube videos others have put out and you're making claims based on that. Hmmm
I'm not calling you moron, but you must have taken the special bus to school.
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I can't think for myself yet it's you posting youtube videos others have put out and you're making claims based on that. Hmmm
I'm not calling you moron, but you must have taken the special bus to school.
It's amusing.You have presented no facts, and everything you have taken a contrarian view of so far has been wrong.Id love to know what about this virus you do not find frightening.Impossible to Quarantine due to the incubation period, spreads twice as easily as regular flu, kills 15x+ more, has the ability to easily mutate, lasts 9 days on surfaces,targets the heart in the weak,is causing hundreds of millions to be Quarantined, and CDC have said likely to mass spread In the USA.Its almost the perfect virus as it has the perfect blend of being contagious while being deadly..Yet you are here arguing about % number of doctors when it doesn't matter if they are all healthy, they simply won't be able to cope.And they are not coping right now.
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You're thinking of the plague ::)
Spanish flu 40-100 million was hardly a third of the population.
In certain parts of Europe the death toll was very high.
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Dr John calls out WHO
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Dr John calls out WHO
Nurse calls out World Health Organisation...?
A nurse, in A+E?
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One benefit of this is watch political correctness fall off and nationalism go through the roof now there is actually something real to worry about.
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It's amusing.You have presented no facts, and everything you have taken a contrarian view of so far has been wrong.Id love to know what about this virus you do not find frightening.Impossible to Quarantine due to the incubation period, spreads twice as easily as regular flu, kills 15x+ more, has the ability to easily mutate, lasts 9 days on surfaces,targets the heart in the weak,is causing hundreds of millions to be Quarantined, and CDC have said likely to mass spread In the USA.Its almost the perfect virus as it has the perfect blend of being contagious while being deadly..Yet you are here arguing about % number of doctors when it doesn't matter if they are all healthy, they simply won't be able to cope.And they are not coping right now.
The reason I haven't presented any facts is because there are no accurate facts to present regardless of what anyone thinks they know. This is why I'm yanking your chain asking you to show me where you're getting your % from because there is no way of knowing.
The information coming out regardless of the source is also likely very inaccurate and only after the event can we present numbers. Even then a lot of it won't be accurate.
You need to pipe down because all your worrying is gonna compromise your immune system. Then you'll be really fucked
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The reason I haven't presented any facts is because there are no accurate facts to present regardless of what anyone thinks they know. This is why I'm yanking your chain asking you to show me where you're getting your % from because there is no way of knowing.
The information coming out regardless of the source is also likely very inaccurate and only after the event can we present numbers. Even then a lot of it won't be accurate.
You need to pipe down because all your worrying is gonna compromise your immune system. Then you'll be really fucked
Usually id play along.But its getting too real.Within the month your tone will be completely different.Quote that.
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Nurse calls out World Health Organisation...?
A nurse, in A+E?
University Lecturer/Dr/Trainer/Nurse who has put himself out there and been cautiously correct the whole time while the large WHO has been wrong.At this point someone with a broad knowledge, experience and contacts is the best person to put all the information together in an unbiased way and make a conclusion.You going to trust the media?World health organisation?Whistle blowers have always been people previously unknown typically.
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Look at the 28yo doctor who died yesterday.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231485925676535813
Confirmed Corona on Jan 19th.
Becomes worse Feb 7th
Dies Feb 23
Meaning likely 6 weeks plus from point of contact....
Also death rate is now 3.13% from official figures
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Do I think it will wipe out 25% of world population?yes I do.Am I worried at the moment?no.See what happens.
Just chillax for now.What will be will be.
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Look at the 28yo doctor who died yesterday.
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231485925676535813
Confirmed Corona on Jan 19th.
Becomes worse Feb 7th
Dies Feb 23
Meaning likely 6 weeks plus from point of contact....
Also death rate is now 3.13% from official figures
Was waiting for something like this to be posted. Just so you know 60% of Chinese doctors are smokers..
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Do I think it will wipe out 25% of world population?yes I do.Am I worried at the moment?no.See what happens.
Just chillax for now.What will be will be.
By the %'s in which it kills that would not be possible even if every person on Earth contracted the virus.
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Do I think it will wipe out 25% of world population?yes I do.Am I worried at the moment?no.See what happens.
Just chillax for now.What will be will be.
Worst case scenario I'd go with 5%. More likely it will be between 1 and 2%
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Was waiting for something like this to be posted. Just so you know 60% of Chinese doctors are smokers..
I was more pointing out the huge time between contact and death.Had she been a regular citizen she would have likely not been diagnosed for 4+ weeks after contact.Thats insane.
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I was more pointing out the huge time between contact and death.Had she been a regular citizen she would have likely not been diagnosed for 4+ weeks after contact.Thats insane.
You seem overly worried about catching it, shift your focus to things that are in your control.
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By the %'s in which it kills that would not be possible even if every person on Earth contracted the virus.
It really depends if the Chinese were telling the truth or not.Its wiping out Iranians at a much higher rate and back in 2016 Iran was rated as having better healthcare than the USA by Forbes.Either the Chinese were lying or it's already mutated are the most likely theories.
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Don't be the retard who waits until his town declares a lockdown to go shopping
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Don't be the retard who waits until his town declares a lockdown to go shopping
What should I shop for?
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Don't be the retard who waits until his town declares a lockdown to go shopping
This looks like a typical Sunday? People shop on the weekend and items need replenished. Where the roads shut down in the city?
I hope you’re stocked up on food with all the posting you’re doing it’s hard to think you have had time to leave the house.
Not that it matters for an airborn virus, as the disease is likely living on those food packages. Someone is likely bringing the disease right into their home...
Also what are the Chinese death numbers at this point? It should be in the 10s of millions by now.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/coronavirus-65-million-people/
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chinese-intelligence-coronavirus/
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Also what are the Chinese death numbers at this point? It should be in the 10s of millions by now.
As China was the first country to get this and the fact they have so much control over their citizens and also can lie..USA will be far worse infection wise imho.
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As China was the first country to get this and the fact they have so much control over their citizens and also can lie..USA will be far worse infection wise imho.
You are doom and gloom and I get it but Just prepare to the best of your capabilities and then weather the storm best you can.
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As China was the first country to get this and the fact they have so much control over their citizens and also can lie..USA will be far worse infection wise imho.
Agreed. You seem to have an unbiased and very educated view.
China is a much larger country with much larger cities than the US, so the devastation should be greater.
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You are doom and gloom and I get it but Just prepare to the best of your capabilities and then weather the storm best you can.
Rob you’re in a hopeless situation brother. The disease will lie dormant during the cold East cold winters, all your casino adventures have probably exposed you already.
Seek help while you can.
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Rob you’re in a hopeless situation brother. The disease will lie dormant during the cold East cold winters, all your casino adventures have probably exposed you already.
Seek help while you can.
Believe me the casino runs have been slowing down due to this.Also when I go I ask anyone at the table if they are international travelers Hahahah. But yeah I prob already got it.
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Agreed. You seem to have an unbiased and very educated view.
China is a much larger country with much larger cities than the US, so the devastation should be greater.
The Chinese have a totalitarian government, the USA can't do 10% of what the Chinese did to Quarantine.Can you imagine Juan, Jamal and Shaniquai observing a Quarantine?Can you imagine the homeless?No, neither can I.
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The Chinese have a totalitarian government, the USA can't do 10% of what the Chinese did to Quarantine.Can you imagine Juan, Jamal and Shaniquai observing a Quarantine?Can you imagine the homeless?No, neither can I.
who fucking cares about them, quarantine yourself...
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who fucking cares about them, quarantine yourself...
And what about when the 3 of them arrive at your door with guns to rob you?Don't care then?
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The Chinese have a totalitarian government, the USA can't do 10% of what the Chinese did to Quarantine.Can you imagine Juan, Jamal and Shaniquai observing a Quarantine?Can you imagine the homeless?No, neither can I.
Bro the US can and will put an area on lockdown. They observe lockdown hours in certain cities for teens. Obviously people can and will get through the cracks but the people you’re referring to won’t have reliable transportation or fuel to visit random homes.
And what about when the 3 of them arrive at your door with guns to rob you?Don't care then?
A few years ago we had a natural disaster here in the US. It was a hurricane that hit New Orleans called Katrina. It was devastating. Looters didn’t rob home owners. They targeted stores.
We’ve had worst disasters since then and we’ve done ok. People generally aren’t traveling looking for random homes to rob for fear of being shot. It happens of course but it takes place regardless of good or bad economic situations, disasters, etc...
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Also unlike most viruses you don't build any immunity to this virus, in fact the antibodies you made the first time somehow help to kill you faster when reinfected, if the Hubei doctors are to be believed.
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And what about when the 3 of them arrive at your door with guns to rob you?Don't care then?
Kill them first
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Tactical Assault Gear Rampage Releasable Armor Carrier, Small/Medium, Ranger Green 812451
BlackHawk S.T.R.I.K.E. Cutaway Plate Carrier Armor
Oakley Turbine Sunglasses
Stanley Large First Aid Kit RST-60001
Blackhawk S.O.L.A.G. HD with Kevlar, Color - Black, Size - Medium, 8151MDBK
ESS Profile TurboFan Military/Tactical Goggles - Black Frame, Clear & Smoke Gray Lenses
Specter Gear M-2 Mk-3 Rapid Reload Chest Carrier for AK-47 Magazines - MultiCam 595 MULT
Laboratory Equipment
Qorpak Bottle Beakers, Medium Rounds, Wide Mouth, Qorpak 7550 With Pulp/Vinyl-Lined Black Phenolic Cap
Labnet Labpette R Repeating Pipette P3000
Samco Disposable Transfer Pipets, Fine Tip, Samco Scientific 234 Fine Tip, Large Bulb, Case
UNICO Shake-It Pipette Shaker, for 6 pipettes, 15 min. timer, 110 V L-P600T
Meiji Techno LED Binocular Turret Stereo Rechargeable Microscope
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I've just ordered me 2 of these babies - bring on the Wuhan Zombies 8) (that is what's happening, right..?) Just need to add me some guns...
Z.E.R.O. (Zombie Extermination, Research and Operations) Kit by OpticsPlanet ZERO-KIT3
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Package Contents:
Z.E.R.O. (Zombie Extermination, Research and Operations) Kit by OpticsPlanet includes:
Weapon Accessories
Barska NVX100 3x Digital Night Vision Monocular
FLIR Systems HM-224Pro First Mate Thermal Image Camera-240x180, FOV 24x18
SureFire Benelli M1-M2 Dedicated 6V Shotgun Forend Flashlight
Weaver KASPA-Z Tactical Zombie Scope 1.56-6x32mm Z-CIRT Reticle Black 849843
Plano Moulding Zombie Ammo Can
Champion Zombie Target 6-Pack, Attack
Streamlight TLR-1 HP Long Range Rail Mounted Flashlight, Standard Switch w/ Rail Locating Keys for Glock Style,1913 Picatinny, S&W 99/TSW & Beretta 90two & Lithium Batteries, Box 69217
Safariland 6305 ALS Tactical Holster w/ Quick Release Leg Harness - STX TAC Black, Right Hand, Hood Guard Sentry Protection 6305-7742-131-SH
New, Steiner 10x50 Military Binoculars Laser Rangefinder
Leupold Mark 4 20-60x80mm, Black Spotting Scope, TMR Reticle 110826
Laser Devices DBAL-I2 Dual Beam Laser, Visible Green Laser
Mako Group Fab Defense Handguard w/Rails For Remington Model 870 PR870
Trijicon ACOG 6x48 Dual Ill Riflescope w/Mount, Green Chevron .308 Reticle
Vero Vellini Premium Padded Leather Rifle Sling, Brown V17228
Barska 4x30 IR Electro Sight with Green Laser & LED Flashlight
EOTech EXPS2 Holographic Weapon Sight w/ QD Lever
Knives
KA-BAR Zombie Kharon Tanto Folder Knife
SOG Bowie 2.0 Knife
SOG Specialty Knives & Tools Kiku Straight-Edge Fixed Steel Blade Drop Point Knife, Linen Micarta Handle, Black TiNi Finish, Large, 5.6 in
Cases and Backpacks
Horn Hunter Full Curl System Pack
OPMOD PRB Professional Range Bag w/ Pullout Bag and Brass Bag
Camelbak BFM Hydration Pack - 100 oz/3.0L MultiCam 61763
OPMOD ERC Limited Edition Extreme Rifle Case / Gun Bag for MSRs
Reloading and Gunsmithing Equipment
Otis Technology Zombie Gun Cleaning System FG-753-Z
RCBS Pro-Melt Furnace, 240 V-ac Europe - 81200
RCBS Pro 2000 Progressive Press - 88875
Lyman Gen 5 Digital Powder System 115/230V 7750600
Tools
Pelican 0450 Mobile Tool Chest with Drawers
SUREFIRE SF123A BULK BOX, 400 EA. 3 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERIES
PowerTraveller Falcon 40 Foldable, Multi-Voltage Solar Panel
Leatherman MUT Black Multi Tool w/ Black Molle Sheath 850122
Night Armor Tactical Pen w/FREE 1AA CREE Flashlight NA800CBO
Battle Mug PMUG Polymer Edition
Cammenga S.W.A.T.Black Tritium Lensatic Compass 166748
Bobster Ram Digital Tactical Watch
Streamlight E-Spot FireBox LED Lantern, Light Only w/ No Charger, Orange 45882
Protective Gear
Tactical Assault Gear Rampage Releasable Armor Carrier, Small/Medium, Ranger Green 812451
BlackHawk S.T.R.I.K.E. Cutaway Plate Carrier Armor
Oakley Turbine Sunglasses
Stanley Large First Aid Kit RST-60001
Blackhawk S.O.L.A.G. HD with Kevlar, Color - Black, Size - Medium, 8151MDBK
ESS Profile TurboFan Military/Tactical Goggles - Black Frame, Clear & Smoke Gray Lenses
Specter Gear M-2 Mk-3 Rapid Reload Chest Carrier for AK-47 Magazines - MultiCam 595 MULT
Laboratory Equipment
Qorpak Bottle Beakers, Medium Rounds, Wide Mouth, Qorpak 7550 With Pulp/Vinyl-Lined Black Phenolic Cap
Labnet Labpette R Repeating Pipette P3000
Samco Disposable Transfer Pipets, Fine Tip, Samco Scientific 234 Fine Tip, Large Bulb, Case
UNICO Shake-It Pipette Shaker, for 6 pipettes, 15 min. timer, 110 V L-P600T
Meiji Techno LED Binocular Turret Stereo Rechargeable Microscope
Rick Grimes would be jealous!
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Only 20k just ordered 5.
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And what about when the 3 of them arrive at your door with guns to rob you?Don't care then?
Yes, you are right, if three hoods turn up on my doorstep pointing guns in my face the first thing that will go through my mind is "fuck me I hope one of them doesn't sneeze"
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Rick Grimes would be jealous!
Hahahaha
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Yes, you are right, if three hoods turn up on my doorstep pointing guns in my face the first thing that will go through my mind is "fuck me I hope one of them doesn't sneeze"
Completely missed the point.
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Completely missed the point.
nope, now you have given yourself away...
happy trolling... ;)
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South Korea and Italy.Nothing to see here guys, move along
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Where is your faith?
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Can you imagine DeShawn and Deshantey coming so peacefully?
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7 dead in italy
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7 dead in italy
Current stats for regular flu in the USA 2019/2020 FLU SEASON
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu. Interim estimates of 2019-2020 flu vaccine effectiveness were released this week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
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China is probably just weaponizing the Coronavirus to kill the Hong Kong protests. This also gives them the excuse to grab political opponents for "public safety" and you never see them again.
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China is probably just weaponizing the Coronavirus to kill the Hong Kong protests. This also gives them the excuse to grab political opponents for "public safety" and you never see them again.
Grab em all :D
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What is rather frightening is that the authorities believe the numbers coming out of China may be only what they want to release, perhaps not the accurate ones. They might be a lot higher..
J
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Current stats for regular flu in the USA 2019/2020 FLU SEASON
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu. Interim estimates of 2019-2020 flu vaccine effectiveness were released this week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Dammit - I'm gonna need a bigger rucksack!
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7 dead in italy
From 3 to 200 cases in just a few days. And the known fatality rate is past 3%.
Moderna starts clinical trials of the vaccine in April. It's up over 17% in after hours trading.
That's a stock to watch. :o
https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/MRNA
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Current stats for regular flu in the USA 2019/2020 FLU SEASON
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu. Interim estimates of 2019-2020 flu vaccine effectiveness were released this week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
It isn't about now, it's about where it's heading.Flu has been around since 1729.This virus only a few months old and it's spreading so rapidly while being 20-100x more deadly depending on what source you read, while being twice as infectious as flu.What is it with everyone on Getbig not being able to see past the now?
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It isn't about now, it's about where it's heading.Flu has been around since 1729.This virus only a few months old and it's spreading so rapidly while being 20-100x more deadly depending on what source you read, while being twice as infectious as flu.What is it with everyone on Getbig not being able to see past the now?
Listen Army I like you and think your a pretty cool guy but this is nuts.If you are seriously thinking about this non stop you should just off yourself now and get it over with.
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From 3 to 200 cases in just a few days. And the known fatality rate is past 3%.
Moderna starts clinical trials of the vaccine in April. It's up over 17% in after hours trading.
That's a stock to watch. :o
https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/MRNA
Be very weary of any “we have the vaccine to the virus” stocks. There are hundreds of stocks globally with similarly hype and theme. If trading key would be get in and out fast. More sensible would be to buy legit companies with sentiment hit hard short term. Think airlines, hotels, hospitality, tourism.
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Listen Army I like you and think your a pretty cool guy but this is nuts.If you are seriously thinking about this non stop you should just off yourself now and get it over with.
Talking about something that's possibly going to effect us more than any other topic on this board is nuts?Please explain.NOT talking about it is nuts.Its fascinating to me in a way, it has the potential to be unlike anything we have experienced.So we can talk about trannies, trump, sjws, steroids killing bbers, white knights, urban youths, increasingly slutty women, boomers, Tom princes kidneys, etc for 10+ pages "non stop" but something that could blow all those out of the water for fucking your shit up, we shouldn't?why?because it's scary?Because it makes you feel uncomfortable?Every other big forum where medium/high IQ posters gather they have 100+ page threads on it with around half or more of the posters thinking along the same lines I am.Why should it be different here?It's top of every media outlet too, wanna email them, tell them to stop thinking about it and reporting it because you don't like how it makes you feel?
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Talking about something that's possibly going to effect us more than any other topic on this board is nuts?Please explain.NOT talking about it is nuts.Its fascinating to me in a way, it has the potential to be unlike anything we have experienced.So we can talk about trannies, trump, sjws, steroids killing bbers, white knights, urban youths, increasingly slutty women, boomers, Tom princes kidneys, etc for 10+ pages "non stop" but something that could blow all those out of the water for fucking your shit up, we shouldn't?why?because it's scary?Because it makes you feel uncomfortable?Every other big forum where medium/high IQ posters gather they have 100+ page threads on it with around half or more of the posters thinking along the same lines I am.Why should it be different here?It's top of every media outlet too, wanna email them, tell them to stop thinking about it and reporting it because you don't like how it makes you feel?
You are way to focused on it is all I’m saying.It might kill me it might not,I can’t sit here worrying about it.Id drive myself insane.
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Talking about something that's possibly going to effect us more than any other topic on this board is nuts?Please explain.NOT talking about it is nuts.Its fascinating to me in a way, it has the potential to be unlike anything we have experienced.So we can talk about trannies, trump, sjws, steroids killing bbers, white knights, urban youths, increasingly slutty women, boomers, Tom princes kidneys, etc for 10+ pages "non stop" but something that could blow all those out of the water for fucking your shit up, we shouldn't?why?because it's scary?Because it makes you feel uncomfortable?Every other big forum where medium/high IQ posters gather they have 100+ page threads on it with around half or more of the posters thinking along the same lines I am.Why should it be different here?It's top of every media outlet too, wanna email them, tell them to stop thinking about it and reporting it because you don't like how it makes you feel?
Yet, despite all their talking, they are just as susceptible to catching it as anyone else.
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Be very weary of any “we have the vaccine to the virus” stocks. There are hundreds of stocks globally with similarly hype and theme. If trading key would be get in and out fast. More sensible would be to buy legit companies with sentiment hit hard short term. Think airlines, hotels, hospitality, tourism.
Absolutely.
Don't none of y'all take stock tips from me. But I'm curious to see what the stock does between now and
results from trials.
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Current stats for regular flu in the USA 2019/2020 FLU SEASON
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu. Interim estimates of 2019-2020 flu vaccine effectiveness were released this week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Cope harder
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Iran are now saying 50 are dead.At this point it looks very likely it's a stronger strain there.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/24/iran-lawmaker-says-50-are-dead-from-new-coronavirus-in-city-of-qom
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Yet, despite all their talking, they are just as susceptible to catching it as anyone else.
So it can't be talked about if you are susceptible?
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So it can't be talked about if you are susceptible?
It can, but it’s really a pointless endeavor.
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Iran are now saying 50 are dead.At this point it looks very likely it's a stronger strain there.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/24/iran-lawmaker-says-50-are-dead-from-new-coronavirus-in-city-of-qom
Good. Hopefully Straw will be vacationing there soon.
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It can, but it’s really a pointless endeavor.
99% of what's talked about in life is a pointless endeavor that changes the outcome of nothing.Should we stop talking about all that too?Can you make a list of what we can and can't talk about?
Also
Of the 29,000 known cases that have an outcome, 9% have resulted in death.
Of the 51,000 ongoing cases, 23% are in critical condition.
But it's just flu guys.
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Wait till it starts in Africa. A large amount of black Africans in southern Africa already have HIV-AIDS.
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99% of what's talked about in life is a pointless endeavor that changes the outcome of nothing.Should we stop talking about all that too?Can you make a list of what we can and can't talk about?
Also
Of the 29,000 known cases that have an outcome, 9% have resulted in death.
Of the 51,000 ongoing cases, 23% are in critical condition.
But it's just flu guys.
Talked about is one thing but your obsessively scared, paranoid and freaking out about this. Again, pointless.
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It mostly kills old men from pneumonia, most of them smokers who's lungs had lesions, I think the recorded cases are way to low, meaning the mortality rate is actually quite low similar to the common flu, no doubt its a bad flu, but a lot of people die from the flu each year.
In saying that I feel we are too worried about economic impact over effective containment and no doubt in the future whether its this virus mutating into a much more deadly disease or another one, we are sitting ducks. We can't even cull bats where it is well known that most of the corona type viruses come from, bat populations are out of control in most countries, if an animal that is not a food source has the potential to cause a global disease epidemic, we should cull it, no different to stoping counties get nuclear weapons, we need to neutralise threats as they arise, but our over civilised western world no longer allows us to deal with anything effectively.
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It mostly kills old men from pneumonia, most of them smokers who's lungs had lesions, I think the recorded cases are way to low, meaning the mortality rate is actually quite low similar to the common flu, no doubt its a bad flu, but a lot of people die from the flu each year.
In saying that I feel we are too worried about economic impact over effective containment and no doubt in the future whether its this virus mutating into a much more deadly disease or another one, we are sitting ducks. We can't even cull bats where it is well known that most of the corona type viruses come from, bat populations are out of control in most countries, if an animal that is not a food source has the potential to cause a global disease epidemic, we should cull it, no different to stoping counties get nuclear weapons, we need to neutralise threats as they arise, but our over civilised western world no longer allows us to deal with anything effectively.
You are right. Almost 15% of the deaths have occurred among people over 80. It drops to 8% with people age 70-79 (my age group). It continues to drop to .2% among people between the ages of 10-39. There have been no reported infant deaths.
COVID-19 will not bust the economy, but fear about it doing so might. Whether seniors are a burden or an asset to society is heavily debated. It is a debate I will avoid because admittedly, I am bias. Contrary to what some here think, I have a good life and I'm not ready to give it up just yet. However, I can see where some uninformed younger people might think the world would be better off with out seniors. They'll eventually change their minds, but that's another story.
I'm never had the flu. Maybe I am naturally immune to those types of viruses. -Don't know. On the negative side, I am susceptible to getting pneumonia because I've had it before several times throughout my lifetime. Never the less, I'm pretty healthy. My immune system is great. I'll go with the idea that I'm less likely than some to get seriously ill from COVID-19.
Too bad for all my haters! LOL!
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Talked about is one thing but your obsessively scared, paranoid and freaking out about this. Again, pointless.
im not freaking out at all.I update as new info comes in.If you want to update about Vissy, Prime or Ironmeister ,as that has alot of point, you are welcome to go to that thread.I dont remember ever calling you out for that.Paranoid because I said stock up and prepare for a pandemic?Like Canada just officially told it's people to do?My advice might mean you have some extra food in your cupboard you can eat at a later date, your advice telling people there is nothing they can do could get people killed.
http://archive.is/se0HO
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Trump says carona virus will go away.I believe him.
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im not freaking out at all.I update as new info comes in.If you want to update about Vissy, Prime or Ironmeister ,as that has alot of point, you are welcome to go to that thread.I dont remember ever calling you out for that.Paranoid because I said stock up and prepare for a pandemic?Like Canada just officially told it's people to do?My advice might mean you have some extra food in your cupboard you can eat at a later date, your advice telling people there is nothing they can do could get people killed.
http://archive.is/se0HO
You seem very scared.
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The most honest answer I can figure is that we know nothing, so I'm only slightly nervous. What will happen, will happen. I bought some extra otc flu medicines across a few different classes. I also added to my stock of canned goods, protein powders, etc.... but that's about it.
The chance to add any respirators, etc... has sailed. Even the more expensive full face industrial models and their filters are sold out.
If you have any pre-existing conditions, I'd probably see if I could get my hands on a few extra months of whatever medicines you need now. This thing has really exposed how dependent we are on China for medical goods of all classes. Everyone from the richest 1st world drug companies to 3rd world producers needs China for something.
The economy will tank some, but we've had a great run the last few years, so I'm hoping it will balance out.
I was somewhat happy when I saw that Europe was keeping a lid on it. But now, with the rather large clusters in Italy, and reports that it is spending across Europe, my hopes are a bit dashed. I also don't believe in the :) the US is putting on it. That's all about keeping the economy somewhat stable.
I do think the spin that warmer temperatures will kill it off has merit. Hong Kong, Singapore, etc... have slowed down their infection rate, but realistically most of the US won't see sustainable warmer temperatures (70f +) till late May or so, so we've still got a long way to go.
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Anyway, those were just some random thoughts on this. For real Coronavirus news I like -
https://twitter.com/BNODesk
https://twitter.com/lookner
https://covid19info.live/
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You seem very scared.
You seem very stupid.
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Iran's deputy health Minister diagnosed a day after looking ill on TV.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8041189/Irans-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-15-amid-surge-new-infections.html
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I'm naked and afraid!
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I'm naked and afraid!
Pics?
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You seem very stupid.
It’s okay to be scared.
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Don't be fooled by the media horror frenzy.........check the stats.............2% fatality...........what else do you really need to know??
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Don't be fooled by the media horror frenzy.........check the stats.............2% fatality...........what else do you really need to know??
Don't just check the stats, actually look at what they are telling you.
Of the 29,000 known cases that have an outcome, 9% have resulted in death.
Of the 51,000 ongoing cases, 23% are in critical condition.
And it's well known China have been lying.The 10th Italian just died, out of 332.Out of that 332 many more will certainly die as the infection is still early there..Irans is said to be even higher, above 20%.And 2% is till 20x more deadly than flu?While being twice as contagious?You somehow see this as good if this was the case?
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I'm naked and afraid!
Hahaha woohoo
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Don't be fooled by the media horror frenzy.........check the stats.............2% fatality...........what else do you really need to know??
Don't just check the stats, actually look at what they are telling you.
Of the 29,000 known cases that have an outcome, 9% have resulted in death.
Of the 51,000 ongoing cases, 23% are in critical condition.
And it's well known China have been lying.The 10th Italian just died, out of 332.Out of that 332 many more will certainly die as the infection is still early there..Irans is said to be even higher, above 20%.And 2% is till 20x more deadly than flu?While being twice as contagious?You somehow see this as good if this was the case?
Wait what stats are we to believe?
How can we know what they are saying if we dont know what stats are true? 2% death rate? 29,000 case with 9% dead or 51,000 cases with almost 1/4 of those being in critical condition...
What are the ages and health statistics of these individuals prior to infection?
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Another big thing to look at is what percentage of capacity your country's hospitals work at normally. In big cities it creeps into 90%'s+. If we see even a decent outbreak here, it will make timely medical services very hard to come by. A few extra patients here or there, isn't a huge burden for 1st world countries, but if we start seeing numbers in the 1000's.....
The US CDC is getting more pessimistic by the day -
"We can have community spread in the United States and have it be reasonably mild, we can have community spread in the U.S. and have it be very severe. So that's what we don't completely know yet."
"We're asking folks in every sector, as well as people within their families, to start planning for this, because as we've seen from the recent countries that have had community spread, when it hit in those countries, it has moved quite rapidly".
Those are some of the latest quotes from them.
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Wait what stats are we to believe?
29,000 case with 9% dead or 51,000 cases with almost 1/4 of those being in critical condition...
???
Of the 80k cases, 29000 have either died, or survived and now test negative.Of those 29000 cases, 9% died.Of the 51k remaining of the so far 80k infected that have neither died, or recovered and tested negative, 23% are in critical condition.And again it looks like these numbers for China should be much higher with what we are seeing unfold in Iran and Italy.
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Fortress ain’t got no time for some faggy-named virus shit.
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I'm naked and afraid!
me too but I am only partially naked as I am wearing tbombz' used penis pump
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???
Of the 80k cases, 29000 have either died, or survived and now test negative.Of those 29000 cases, 9% died.Of the 51k remaining of the so far 80k infected that have neither died, or recovered and tested negative, 23% are in critical condition.And again it looks like these numbers for China should be much higher with what we are seeing unfold in Iran and Italy.
So according to the numbers you provided we have 80k people who have been infected. 2600 have died from the infection. 26,400 have survived and are no longer ill.
We still dont have vital information such as age and status of the infecteds health prior to infection. This information would be vital in determining how deadly this virus really is.
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html
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So according to the numbers you provided we have 80k people who have been infected. 2600 have died from the infection. 26,400 have survived and are no longer ill.
We still dont have vital information such as age and status of the infecteds health prior to infection. This information would be vital in determining how deadly this virus really is.
so whats happened to the 51k?
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so whats happened to the 51k?
They could be dying.
Or they could be recovering.
We don’t know, so it’s best to speculate the worst.
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I'm naked and afraid!
Put some clothes on.
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Wait what stats are we to believe?
How can we know what they are saying if we dont know what stats are true? 2% death rate? 29,000 case with 9% dead or 51,000 cases with almost 1/4 of those being in critical condition...
What are the ages and health statistics of these individuals prior to infection?
Exactly.
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They could be dying.
Or they could be recovering.
We don’t know, so it’s best to speculate the worst.
most will get better, its only old people and people with poor health thats dropping dead.
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The Centers for Disease Control report that about 4,280 pedestrians die as the result of being struck by cars each year and another 70,000 pedestrians are injured as the result of being hit by a car. This is a total of 74,280 pedestrians struck by cars each year.
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The Centers for Disease Control report that about 4,280 pedestrians die as the result of being struck by cars each year and another 70,000 pedestrians are injured as the result of being hit by a car. This is a total of 74,280 pedestrians struck by cars each year.
I didnt realise getting hit by a car was a disease???
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I didnt realise getting hit by a car was a disease???
It is once the body is airborne.
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The IOC just announced that if the outbreak isn't controlled by late May at the latest, the 2020 Summer games are cancelled.
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It is once the body is airborne.
Funny. I suspect the center for disease control has the best opportunity to gather these statistics.
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The IOC just announced that if the outbreak isn't controlled by late May at the latest, the 2020 Summer games are cancelled.
Is the outbreak out of control?
Can you stop an airborne virus?
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The Centers for Disease Control report that about 4,280 pedestrians die as the result of being struck by cars each year and another 70,000 pedestrians are injured as the result of being hit by a car. This is a total of 74,280 pedestrians struck by cars each year.
This might be the biggest brainlet cope I've seen in this thread.No offence Prime.
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Is the outbreak out of control?
Can you stop an airborne virus?
are you army of ones gimmick account?
Chill the fuck out... ;D
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This might be the biggest brainlet cope I've seen in this thread.No offence Prime.
Does this make you feel better?
BREAKING NEWS
The C.D.C. warned Americans to begin preparing for the possibility of a coronavirus outbreak: “This might be bad.”
Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:33 PM EST
Americans should brace for the likelihood that the coronavirus will spread to communities in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Tuesday.
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Does this make you feel better?
BREAKING NEWS
The C.D.C. warned Americans to begin preparing for the possibility of a coronavirus outbreak: “This might be bad.”
Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:33 PM EST
Americans should brace for the likelihood that the coronavirus will spread to communities in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Tuesday.
You only have to look at the facts of this thing.Insanely long incubation period, insanely contagious, while being insanely deadly.Thats basically unheard of.Typically viruses are not deadly to this extreme because they want the host to survive to spread the virus.Usually viruses that are deadly, they kill all the hosts and it fizzles out or they are so contagious that they are not deadly to assure the host spreading.This hits that unimaginable equilibrium that was unthinkable til now, of ease of spread while being deadly.
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You only have to look at the facts of this thing.Insanely long incubation period, insanely contagious, while being insanely deadly.Thats basically unheard of.Typically viruses are not deadly to this extreme because they want the host to survive to spread the virus.Usually viruses that are deadly, they kill all the hosts and it fizzles out or they are so contagious that they are not deadly to assure the host spreading.This hits that unimaginable equilibrium that was unthinkable til now, of ease of spread while being deadly.
Horrible. What do you recommend we do about it?
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Horrible. What do you recommend we do about it?
Stop saying there's nothing you can do about it.Buy a pulse oximeter, stock up on 1-2 months of rice and beans, vit c tabs, ibuprofen and paracetamol.Buy a face mask.Have multiple sources of internet connection, some large power banks, flashlights.Stop smoking if you do.Be ready to pull your kids out of school.Start making plans to remote work if possible.Avoid all public transport from this point on if you can.Avoid large gatherings if you can. Do all this and your chances of survival are far greater than not doing any of it.Or ignore it all, mock it and be crying in a few weeks that you didn't listen.
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Stop saying there's nothing you can do about it.Buy a pulse oximeter, stock up on 1-2 months of rice and beans, vit c tabs, ibuprofen and paracetamol.Buy a face mask.Have multiple sources of internet connection, some large power banks, flashlights.Stop smoking if you do.Be ready to pull your kids out of school.Start making plans to remote work if possible.Avoid all public transport from this point on if you can.Avoid large gatherings if you can. Do all this and your chances of survival are far greater than not doing any of it.Or ignore it all, mock it and be crying in a few weeks that you didn't listen.
I will, thanks...
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I will, thanks...
This will age well.
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At what level is a disease/virus considered as a plague?
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State Of Emergency declared in San Francisco
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Iran are now saying 50 are dead.At this point it looks very likely it's a stronger strain there.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/24/iran-lawmaker-says-50-are-dead-from-new-coronavirus-in-city-of-qom
I hope Hadi Choopan will be okay
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Whilst theres no vaccine, if you really are concerned conventional antibiotics might help, I last week got some to treat pneumonia, my thinking being from what I have read the virus attacks the respiratory system similar to pneumonia in most cases it develops into pneumonia, I would rather take something that might help, than nothing at all. My doctor was OK with my thinking and thinks that with whats known that's all we can do. Augmentin and keflex, but wait till your mucus goes green which points to infection, clear usually is just the common flu, biggest issue i see coming is people getting the common flu and panicking thinking they have corona, plus only ever use anti biotics where you absolutely have to, dont use up your line of defence to early.
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I don't know about 20% but the 3% figure was between those ill enough to be diagnosed with it.
Most of those who contract the virus clear it as a simple flu,not knowing it was Corona.
Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
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It is once the body is airborne.
Oh man ;D LOL...
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State Of Emergency declared in San Francisco
It’s too late.
The disease traveled on an airplane. Those people aboard the flight are now carrying the virus. The staff as well. They’re traveling across the world spreading death.
The 2 San Francisco cases are likely dead. The husband entered back into the states January 23rd. We never had a chance.
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It’s too late.
The disease traveled on an airplane. Those people aboard the flight are now carrying the virus. The staff as well. They’re traveling across the world spreading death.
The 2 San Francisco cases are likely dead. The husband entered back into the states January 23rd. We never had a chance.
Everybody kill yourselfs.... It's over we're all dead already
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Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
AGAIN, its how much this will cripple infrastructure, supply chains, how many will be too ill for work, hospitals overloaded turning away the dying, social unrest, collapse of stocks, housing prices,lack of police etc that is the big worry.
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Everybody kill yourselfs.... It's over we're all dead already
THIS VIRUS IS DEATH! Antibiotics WILL NOT WORK!
The airplane that transported the disease needs to be decommissioned.
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AGAIN, its how much this will cripple infrastructure, supply chains, how many will be too ill for work, hospitals overloaded turning away the dying, social unrest, collapse of stocks, housing prices,lack of police etc that is the big worry.
Has China shut down production of goods yet? I know some items can not be imported now.
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AGAIN, its how much this will cripple infrastructure, supply chains, how many will be too ill for work, hospitals overloaded turning away the dying, social unrest, collapse of stocks, housing prices,lack of police etc that is the big worry.
Most of that would be great.
Can't wait for the extra time off work.
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Has China shut down production of goods yet? I know some items can not be imported now.
They started some back up, I think they would rather people die at this point than 100% their economy collapsing.
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Most of that would be great.
Can't wait for the extra time off work.
It's when the local urban youths start roaming and regular people start starving that you don't want to happen.I wouldn't trust anyone but close blood family at that point.
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It's when the local urban youths start roaming and regular people start starving that you don't want to happen.I wouldn't trust anyone but close blood family at that point.
It must be nice to have family that you trust.
Good thing urban youth’s are a minority of minority’s. It’s the poor that I would fear. And people of low intelligence. And criminals.
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THIS VIRUS IS DEATH! Antibiotics WILL NOT WORK!
The airplane that transported the disease needs to be decommissioned.
That aeroplane should be incinerated! It is the death plane, that boat too, burn em!
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Dogs of the dead from the virus will soon start forming street packs, these packs will be led by only the strongest street dogs, and must hunt for food.
They will soon after begin feeding on people as all the farm animals will be dead from no food. Once this happens human life will soon be extinct as we will not be able to overcome both the virus and the street packs.
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I'm naked and afraid!
we all are.
It might be very well the end of civilization as we know it
Europe is already exploding with cases in Italy, austria, germany and the other 3 world countries.
I stocked up on some "home protection". 8)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1232060971901952006
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I will, thanks...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8045003/Thousands-Britons-face-mass-coronavirus-testing.html
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They started some back up, I think they would rather people die at this point than 100% their economy collapsing.
Correct.
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we all are.
It might be very well the end of civilization as we know it
Europe is already exploding with cases in Italy, austria, germany and the other 3 world countries.
I stocked up on some "home protection". 8)
322 known cases in Italy with 11 fatalities thus far. Close to 3.5% fatality rate with these early numbers, tracking with China.
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Those high IQ people will look foolish in a few months when this all blows over.
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State Of Emergency declared in San Francisco
No surprise there.
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State Of Emergency declared in San Francisco
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This virus will be a godsend to countries like Japan and many western countries with an aging population. It kills the old and sick. It kills those who are a cost, not a source of income. Thus, this will benefit the global economy.
Death-rates among those below 50 is 0.5 percent. Above 80. about 14+ percent.
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we all are.
It might be very well the end of civilization as we know it
Europe is already exploding with cases in Italy, austria, germany and the other 3 world countries.
I stocked up on some "home protection". 8)
Condoms?
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Hospitalbeds of Peace
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The San Francisco mayor has declared a state of emergency over the Coronavirus and there hasn't been 1 confirmed case in the city yet. ::)
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we all are.
It might be very well the end of civilization as we know it
Europe is already exploding with cases in Italy, austria, germany and the other 3 world countries.
I stocked up on some "home protection". 8)
Wait till it hits Africa.
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Wait till it hits Africa.
Oh dear if this is true.not a shock though
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8047793/Coronavirus-outbreak-52-TIMES-worse-one-Chinese-province-officials-admit-report-claims.html
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Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
I am in the age group which so far is the most severely affected by the coronavirus. As far as I know, I've never had the flu. I have had bronchial pneumonia several times beginning in infancy. I've been told that those who have had pneumonia are more susceptible to getting it again. For this reason, I get a pneumonia shot annually. I also have allergies and asthma,which do not require treatment because neither are that bad. I've only had one asthma episode and that was when I was a juvenile. For the most part I am healthy with a good immune system. Although, I am vigilant about the coronavirus, I am not going to worry myself into a tizzy over it. Worry and stress can and often do contribute a weakened immunity to illnesses.
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The San Francisco mayor has declared a state of emergency over the Coronavirus and there hasn't been 1 confirmed case in the city yet. ::)
I think they're speaking about the "Bolognavirus". ;D
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I am in the age group which so far is the most severely affected by the coronavirus. As far as I know, I've never had the flu. I have had bronchial pneumonia several times beginning in infancy. I've been told that those who have had pneumonia are more susceptible to getting it again. For this reason, I get a pneumonia shot annually. I also have allergies and asthma,which do not require treatment because neither are that bad. I've only had one asthma episode and that was when I was a juvenile. For the most part I am healthy with a good immune system. Although, I am vigilant about the coronavirus, I am not going to worry myself into a tizzy over it. Worry and stress can and often do contribute a weakened immunity to illnesses.
Pellius, care to comment here? :D ;D
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I am in the age group which so far is the most severely affected by the coronavirus. As far as I know, I've never had the flu. I have had bronchial pneumonia several times beginning in infancy. I've been told that those who have had pneumonia are more susceptible to getting it again. For this reason, I get a pneumonia shot annually. I also have allergies and asthma,which do not require treatment because neither are that bad. I've only had one asthma episode and that was when I was a juvenile. For the most part I am healthy with a good immune system. Although, I am vigilant about the coronavirus, I am not going to worry myself into a tizzy over it. Worry and stress can and often do contribute a weakened immunity to illnesses.
Your risk factor will decrease if you've not a smoker (ideally never smoked). People who seem to fall to it rapidly have underlying health issues with their heart, kidney etc. Diabetes is another risk factor.
If you're healthy as you say you are then the odds are greatly in your favour.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8045003/Thousands-Britons-face-mass-coronavirus-testing.html
The media is starting to have an absolute heyday with this issue. This is how the media survives. It plays into peoples worst fears. Fringe media, such as the Daily Mail, love this doom and gloom crap.
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322 known cases in Italy with 11 fatalities thus far. Close to 3.5% fatality rate with these early numbers, tracking with China.
Yikes! Italy's population is 6.8 million. We should be afraid...very, very afraid.
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Those high IQ people will look foolish in a few months when this all blows over.
High IQ? You've got to be kidding. :)
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This virus will be a godsend to countries like Japan and many western countries with an aging population. It kills the old and sick. It kills those who are a cost, not a source of income. Thus, this will benefit the global economy.
Death-rates among those below 50 is 0.5 percent. Above 80. about 14+ percent.
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Shush, old people like me don't want people to know this.
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Condoms?
Good idea. Are there condoms big enough to fit over people's heads. This way they will suffocate before they can contract the virus. :)
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Your risk factor will decrease if you've not a smoker (ideally never smoked). People who seem to fall to it rapidly have underlying health issues with their heart, kidney etc. Diabetes is another risk factor.
If you're healthy as you say you are then the odds are greatly in your favour.
Thanks. Great to know. I can stop worrying now. ;D
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Yikes! Italy's population is 6.8 million. We should be afraid...very, very afraid.
Both you and I find this virus and the reaction to it interesting. That is all.
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The media is starting to have an absolute heyday with this issue. This is how the media survives. It plays into peoples worst fears. Fringe media, such as the Daily Mail, love this doom and gloom crap.
Fringe?It's the 7th most viewed news website in the world.
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Worst part of all this will slow down delivery of the legit kigs that GH15 is sending me.
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Yikes! Italy's population is 6.8 million. We should be afraid...very, very afraid.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth
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I'm guessing this is like the virus/thing in World War Z. It's not coming after the handicapable such as myself. ;D
Now if it goes after people of low IQ, I may be in trouble. ;D :o ;D But then the civilized world will be emancipated of islime and libtards and more...Free! Free at last!
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Italy added 128 today. People laugh, but China started out similarly.
Someone check on Sev, Romania just entered the Corona club.
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Italy added 128 today. People laugh, but China started out similarly.
Someone check on Sev, Romania just entered the Corona club.
Everything that was ever big started out as nothing and grew.People who think because it hasn't hit 5 million people in 3 days then its nothing....I seriously wonder how they made it over 5th grade.
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I'm guessing this is like the virus/thing in World War Z. It's not coming after the handicapable such as myself. ;D
Now if it goes after people of low IQ, I may be in trouble. ;D :o ;D But then the civilized world will be emancipated of islime and libtards and more...Free! Free at last!
I suspect 'cuckservatives' will go before 'libtards' because we have scientists...virologists in our camp. I doubt the virus cares about IQ...specially yours. But hey, what do I know.
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I suspect 'cuckservatives' will go before 'libtards' because we have scientists...virologists in our camp. I doubt the virus cares about IQ...specially yours. But hey, what do I know.
Sometimes there is a difference in what one suspects and what one expects.
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Sometimes there is a difference in what one suspects and what one expects.
"Expect nothing and appreciate everything"
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"Expect nothing and appreciate everything"
You are learning...If I may?
Nothing in life is free, except that which is given without expecting anything in return.
This is but one thing I have learned in my several decades here.
I realize that am far from wise, let alone smart but those that tried to teach me were rich in common sense and their desire that I receive it as compensation, if you will, for my lack of intelligence.
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Oh dear if this is true.not a shock though
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8047793/Coronavirus-outbreak-52-TIMES-worse-one-Chinese-province-officials-admit-report-claims.html
This is correct and know over 6 weeks ago. See my earlier posts.
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Italy added 128 today. People laugh, but China started out similarly.
Someone check on Sev, Romania just entered the Corona club.
128 officially tested and reported cases. Actually cases are likely a multiple of 1000x
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This is correct and know over 6 weeks ago. See my earlier posts.
Can you breakdown this guy's thoughts?His call on Italy 3 weeks before it even happened was way too accurate for him not to be telling the truth.
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Good Korean video that isnt sugar coating much while also being very informative,with tips on trying to avoid.
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/pope-francis-falls-day-supporting-people-coronavirus-12314029/
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And you wonder why Trump wants a wall? You think some shitty Chinese buffet owner serving dog meat won't tell his relatives from China to go ahead and sneak over the open border to come work in the buffet even WITH the fucking virus? The fucks that destroy women's lives by selling Anavar that's really Dbol? They give a shit?
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Rate of infections slowing?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Rate of infections slowing?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
China are lying about their infections.rest of the world it's going exponential.
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Containment measures in China appear to be working... Cases slow daily.
Positive sign that containment measures do work to reduce transmission of the disease in a very densely packed area where number of infected is very high.
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Containment measures in China appear to be working... Cases slow daily.
Positive sign that containment measures do work to reduce transmission of the disease in a very densely packed area where number of infected is very high.
But will Sahquesha and Daquain stay indoors when Quarantined?
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China are lying about their infections.rest of the world it's going exponential.
Why the hell would china lie, they're the fist to report it, LOL
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Why the hell would china lie, they're the fist to report it, LOL
Oh I don't know...maybe so they can send everyone back to work so their economy doesn't crumble to nothing?And they had no choice but to report it, had they kept it secret then it spread to the world and it leaked they hid it....they would have been finished.
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But will Sahquesha and Daquain stay indoors when Quarantined?
No the Muslims will spread the disease very well though their populations if virus is given the chance, poor hygiene and communal activities (that they won't stop regardless) prayer etc ....
It's not your problem if you don't partake in Muslim prayer and are reasonably isolated from their communities.
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Oh I don't know...maybe so they can send everyone back to work so their economy doesn't crumble to nothing?And they had no choice but to report it, had they kept it secret then it spread to the world and it leaked they hid it....they would have been finished.
they already reported it, LOL, they wouldnt be lying you moron
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"A milder form of AIDS" Lol... This is totally retarded.
It's not even the same family of viruses. People are such fucking morons.
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I think AIDS kills more than 2% of those infected. This paranoia is getting ridiculous.
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Why the hell would china lie, they're the fist to report it, LOL
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Useful information about the matter.
US have only 60 cases, 6 recovered. In couple of weeks there will be 60 000 cases or more, so we will see how it goes. Trump says there is no worry about this, meaning himself. All other americans should be worried.. ;D
Why? All other countries has free medical care, so if you going to be sick/hospitalized by this virus, it doesn't cost anything for you. How about 2 weeks in intensive care unit in US? They send you a bill for 1 000 000$ or more. ;D ;D
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I think AIDS kills more than 2% of those infected. This paranoia is getting ridiculous.
Completely missed the point.The first people cleared from this are showing up now in Wuhan "reinfected", the theory Is they never lost it in the first place, it just laid dormant and now has re-emerged.....
Let's just ignore the media completely and focus on what the scientific papers and statistics up until now are saying.Flu has an R-0 of 1.3, that means for every 1 person who gets flu, they infect 1.3 people.You have seen how the common flu has fucked shit up year by year and on occasions made many of your work/office not show up?The coronavirus in the latest studies has been shown to have an R-0 of 4-6, that means for every 1 person who has it, they infect 4-6 people.Flu has a death rate of 0.1%, the coronavirus on completed cases is killing 8%.Even if we use the uncompleted cases too with people who still have the virus, it's hovering around 2%.
Now add to that the possibility these figures all being wrong because nobody is being cured anyway.....
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looks like the website, of the italian government, where they talk about the daily new numbers of infection, has crashed:
http://www.protezionecivile.gov.it/web/guest/media-comunicazione/comunicati-stampa
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it's a 3-6 feet aerosol. stay away from coughs and sneezes. if the vector doesn't have a nose or mouth within that exposure range, the viroids will fall to earth and die. outside of that keep your hands clean for secondary infection opportunities. all bad things come to pass.
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it's a 3-6 feet aerosol. stay away from coughs and sneezes. if the vector doesn't have a nose or mouth within that exposure range, the viroids will fall to earth and die. outside of that keep your hands clean for secondary infection opportunities. all bad things come to pass.
In colder countries it's staying alive on surfaces for 9 days plus.Hotter countries on surfaces it's dead within a few hours.This is probably the big reason for the differences in say Australia compared to the colder currently Iran and Italy.
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In colder countries it's staying alive on surfaces for 9 days plus.Hotter countries on surfaces it's dead within a few hours.This is probably the big reason for the differences in say Australia compared to the colder currently Iran and Italy.
Is it still infecting/cannibalizing testicles? ???
That is truly my only concern at this point.
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Is it still infecting/cannibalizing testicles? ???
That is truly my only concern at this point.
Who knows.Our best sources of info at the moment are the universities or doctors in China who don't give a fuck and speak out, if they are risking prison and death to get facts out then you know for sure it's legit and not for attention like some Instagram hoe.They are 1-2 months ahead of what we will be experiencing.But from the info there's a still a possibility of infertility.
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In colder countries it's staying alive on surfaces for 9 days plus.Hotter countries on surfaces it's dead within a few hours.This is probably the big reason for the differences in say Australia compared to the colder currently Iran and Italy.
2/3's of Australia is on fire so the disease will likely burn out there.
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2/3's of Australia is on fire so the disease will likely burn out there.
I LOLd.
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I LOLd.
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In colder countries it's staying alive on surfaces for 9 days plus.Hotter countries on surfaces it's dead within a few hours.This is probably the big reason for the differences in say Australia compared to the colder currently Iran and Italy.
This is correct. The exception being in hot counties which have populations who work and live primary in air conditioned environment. But yes. Will spread more in colder climates. Both due to survival of virus as well as humans staying indoors in closer contact.
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Whatever.
Just a bunch of bullshit, like swine flu, avian flu, y2k, acid rain and host of other nonsense that people got worked up about for no reason. Put the phone down and relax.
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Whatever.
Just a bunch of bullshit, like swine flu, avian flu, y2k, acid rain and host of other nonsense that people got worked up about for no reason. Put the phone down and relax.
Exactly, every couple years we get one of these pandemic emergencies that blow over in a month or two. This one is no different.
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Exactly, every couple years we get one of these pandemic emergencies that blow over in a month or two. This one is no different.
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A common tactic to convince people that they are wrong is equate intelligence with the other side. They do this in politics all the time. People with higher IQ's or college degrees are voting for candidate X and uneducated voters are voting for candidate Y.
As I said in a previous post, those on the high IQ side of that graph are going to look foolish in a few months and I am coming back to this thread to gloat.
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A common tactic to convince people that they are wrong is equate intelligence with the other side. They do this in politics all the time. People with higher IQ's or college degrees are voting for candidate X and uneducated voters are voting for candidate Y.
As I said in a previous post, those on the high IQ side of that graph are going to look foolish in a few months and I am coming back to this thread to gloat.
It's simply a risk Vs reward scenario.It costs peanuts to prep and if nothing happens you have a few months of healthy food and don't need to shop for a while.If something happens, you might die because you said "it's just flu, bro", then got shot by Jamal and Tyrone while fighting over the last rice packet in the shop you are looting.Intelligent people do the former, low IQ the latter.
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It's simply a risk Vs reward scenario.It costs peanuts to prep and if nothing happens you have a few months of healthy food and don't need to shop for a while.If something happens, you might die because you said "it's just flu, bro", then got shot by Jamal and Tyrone while fighting over the last rice packet in the shop you are looting.Intelligent people do the former, low IQ the latter.
is it OK if I buy junk food or does it have to be healthy, if so can you please define "healthy" for me....
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is it OK if I buy junk food or does it have to be healthy, if so can you please define "healthy" for me....
My definition of healthy food is calorie dense, filling food that helps keep you at a healthy weight because you don't overeat.Rice, oatmeal, beans etc.obviously I don't mean drinking olive oil at the other the of the spectrum.
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is it OK if I buy junk food or does it have to be healthy, if so can you please define "healthy" for me....
He said healthy food, but it doesn’t matter at this point, you’re lucky to have survived this long.
Army of One must live in a dangerous area that he’d be looting with bloodthirsty gunmen named Jamal and Tyrone.
I wonder what his actual social interactions consist of?
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He said healthy food, but it doesn’t matter at this point, you’re lucky to have survived this long.
Army of One must live in a dangerous area that he’d be looting with bloodthirsty gunmen named Jamal and Tyrone.
I wonder what his actual social interactions consist of?
This is it....
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He said healthy food, but it doesn’t matter at this point, you’re lucky to have survived this long.
Army of One must live in a dangerous area that he’d be looting with bloodthirsty gunmen named Jamal and Tyrone.
I wonder what his actual social interactions consist of?
This happened in the UK just because a black guy with a gun was killed.
This happened in L.A just because a black man was beaten
What do you think is going to happen when 20% say of these black guys lose their parents because the hospitals are turning them away because they have no rooms?no drugs?They will all party in the streets?That's just 1 example of many of how this could go very bad, very quickly.
>critical/serious has a 60% fatality rate with ICE ventilator care
>without that it's a near perfect 100% death rate
>20% of all cases are critical/severe......
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This happened in the UK just because a black guy with a gun was killed.
This happened in L.A just because a black man was beaten
What do you think is going to happen when 20% say of these black guys lose their parents because the hospitals are turning them away because they have no rooms?no drugs?They will all party in the streets?That's just 1 example of many of how this could go very bad, very quickly.
>critical/serious has a 60% fatality rate with ICE ventilator care
>without that it's a near perfect 100% death rate
>20% of all cases are critical/severe......
I think the same thing could happen that happened in 92. If there is a riot it will be in the rioting community. There wont be a mass mob traveling together across the nation.
College towns riot when their team wins a game.
Having food is a good idea but it wont stop a riot from taking place or having said rioters come to your home.
It wont matter though as most rioters will be to sick to do anything physical.
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It's playing out like all the extinction virus movies over the years now lol. Even the Italian news hosts are coughing on live TV
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A common tactic to convince people that they are wrong is equate intelligence with the other side. They do this in politics all the time. People with higher IQ's or college degrees are voting for candidate X and uneducated voters are voting for candidate Y.
As I said in a previous post, those on the high IQ side of that graph are going to look foolish in a few months and I am coming back to this thread to gloat.
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Seems like they found a cure now
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Big Markus owning twinks as usual!
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Big Markus owning twinks as usual!
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Looks healthy candidate for Corona survival.
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Gates needs to stfu. At least Bezos doesn't play the humanitarian shtick much.
Also Ruhl is a long term smoker. Should be interesting for anyone who had him in the death pool.
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Who wants to share Army of one's paranoid, doom and gloom vision of our world? Not me! We're at the point where his posts teeter between laughable, over-reactive fear mongering and depressing negativity. The recent temporary faltering of the stock market is a direct result of alarmist who think as he does. If you believe it, it will happen. You can believe this virus will end the world as we know it or you can know with a certain degree of rationality that like the viruses which have preceded it, science will contain it.
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I remember when I was just a young kid watching Markus Rühl's "Made In Germany" DVD. Great training footage mixed in with healthy dosages of humour and his excellent way with women, having the wife pack his food into the trunk of a Mercedes.
Good stuff. I always liked Markus.
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I wonder if the Coronavirus has made any idiot liberals rethink their position on border security.
They are probably dug in too deep in their virtue signaling to admit that it's important to control who comes in to your country.
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I wonder if the Coronavirus has made any idiot liberals rethink their position on border security.
They are probably dug in too deep in their virtue signaling to admit that it's important to control who comes in to your country.
The coronavirus absolutely demonstrates how useless a boarder wall is when it comes to controlling and keeping a pandemic out of the U.S.
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Who wants to share Army of one's paranoid, doom and gloom vision of our world? Not me! We're at the point where his posts teeter between laughable, over-reactive fear mongering and depressing negativity. The recent temporary faltering of the stock market is a direct result of alarmist who think as he does. If you believe it, it will happen. You can believe this virus will end the world as we know it or you can know with a certain degree of rationality that like the viruses which have preceded it, science will contain it.
It's called looking at the facts.If anything about this Virus so far, sans a vaccine, leads you to believe it's going to stop, then you are already beyond saving.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8057361/Londons-Hyde-Park-turned-MORGUE-worst-case-scenario-coronavirus-plans.html
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I wonder if the Coronavirus has made any idiot liberals rethink their position on border security.
They are probably dug in too deep in their virtue signaling to admit that it's important to control who comes in to your country.
The coronavirus absolutely demonstrates how useless a boarder wall is when it comes to controlling and keeping a pandemic out of the U.S.
I rest my case.
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It's called looking at the facts.If anything about this Virus so far, sans a vaccine, leads you to believe it's going to stop, then you are already beyond saving.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8057361/Londons-Hyde-Park-turned-MORGUE-worst-case-scenario-coronavirus-plans.html
Looking at the facts? Nope. You are obsessing over every negative tidbit you can find regarding the coronavirus. Please stop trying to save those of us who in your estimation are beyond saving. We think you are beyond saving because you've lost all sense of reason.
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Looking at the facts? Nope. You are obsessing over every negative tidbit you can find regarding the coronavirus. Please stop trying to save those of us who in your estimation are beyond saving. We think you are beyond saving because you've lost all sense of reason.
Textbook case of denial.I get it.....but you are not improving your chances of survival by burying your head in the sand.
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Textbook case of denial.I get it.....but you are not improving your chances of survival by burying your head in the sand.
I give you permission to stop worrying about my chances of survival or where you think my head is.
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60 cases out of 300 million people in US 42 of which were from a cruise from Japan. Man America is retarded.
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This thread is so retarded....
Above post "infect half US population in a year?" LOL the spread of the virus has already slowed in China's worst affected areas and they only have in the tens of thousands of cases... After almost three months.
How anyone thinks from here it's going to infect 170 000 000 Americans within twelve months? Hysteria. There is no evidence for any of the nonsense being posted here.
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Back in the 50's if the doctor diagnosed a women with hysteria they would finger them (or later on) use a vibrator to bring them to orgasm..... Maybe that's what you need to calm yourself a bit, army of one ?
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
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Back in the 50's if the doctor diagnosed a women with hysteria they would finger them (or later on) use a vibrator to bring them to orgasm..... Maybe that's what you need to calm yourself a bit, army of one ?
OMG! This is fucking funny as all get out.
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
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Ban Dean Koontz
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0001-jpg.1260440/)
Dude honestly wtf?
The Illuminati is toying with us.
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Dude honestly wtf?
The Illuminati is toying with us.
I think the anime movie Akira from 1988 had the plot being Japan to host the Olympics in 2020 but it's called off due to a worldwide pandemic.
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I think the anime movie Akira from 1988 had the plot being Japan to host the Olympics in 2020 but it's called off due to a worldwide pandemic.
The 1938 radio broadcast of Orson Welles' War of the Worlds caused a panic. Depending on what you read, if it was indeed a panic of large scale remains debatable.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Orson_Welles_War_of_the_Worlds_1938.jpg/1280px-Orson_Welles_War_of_the_Worlds_1938.jpg)
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"After Trump had downplayed the risks of coronavirus, he reassured supporters that the White House was “magnificently organized” in fighting it."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/28/trump-south-carolina-rally-coronavirus-118269
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5e583e69dfff8e0008c869c3/2:2/w_1282,h_1282,c_limit/stauffer_trump_coronavirus_promo.jpg)
A magnificent moron
(or as his Sec. of State referred to him - "a f*cking moron")
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Possibly 23 confirmed cases in small area of Raymond,Washington
Possibly 0 confirmed cases in small area of Raymond,Washington
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I think the anime movie Akira from 1988 had the plot being Japan to host the Olympics in 2020 but it's called off due to a worldwide pandemic.
The book names the birthplace of the disease and refers to it as being designed/engineered/created in addition to naming the year.
This should concern you.
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"After Trump had downplayed the risks of coronavirus, he reassured supporters that the White House was “magnificently organized” in fighting it."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/28/trump-south-carolina-rally-coronavirus-118269
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5e583e69dfff8e0008c869c3/2:2/w_1282,h_1282,c_limit/stauffer_trump_coronavirus_promo.jpg)
A magnificent moron
(or as his Sec. of State referred to him - "a f*cking moron")
Well...What do you know? If you rearrange the letters in the name "dearth" you come up with two words - HATRED and THREAD.
Seems to me that pretty much explains your raison d'être here on GetBig, ace. Run along manlet.
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0001-jpg.1260440/)
Some remarkable coincidences. I wouldn't be surprised if the book breaks into the top twenty best-seller list. Good for Koontz.
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A remarkable coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if the book breaks into the top twenty best-seller list. Good for Koontz.
Not just Wuhan but the year too!
UNCANNY!
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OMG! This is fucking funny as all get out.
it's true, it's the reason the vibrator was first developed, so that Drs had an easier time getting the female patient to orgasm, instead of having to use their hands, they called it "pelvic massage"....
I think it was slowing down by the the 50's but hysteria was a common diagnosis prior to and around that time.
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Not just Wuhan but the year too!
UNCANNY!
Arrest Dean Koontz. He's obviously in on it.
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Not just Wuhan but the year too!
UNCANNY!
Edited to reflect the plural. 8)
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/29/politics/sonny-perdue-coronavirus/index.html
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Back in the 50's if the doctor diagnosed a women with hysteria they would finger them (or later on) use a vibrator to bring them to orgasm..... Maybe that's what you need to calm yourself a bit, army of one ?
I have just the man for the job! :
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0001-jpg.1260440/)
:D
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This gonna blow Army of ones mind!
Fictional book The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz (published in 1981) accurately predicts the Coronavirus. Look at the passages from the book...
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0003-jpg.1260438/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0002-jpg.1260439/)
(https://www.avforums.com/attachments/img-20200220-wa0001-jpg.1260440/)
Dean Koontz is criminally underrated. So is John Saul.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8057101/Bill-Gates-calls-coronavirus-century-pathogen.html
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The book names the birthplace of the disease and refers to it as being designed/engineered/created in addition to naming the year.
This should concern you.
That’s fucking crazy
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I am on line with Army of One, so far this is going exponential (infections outside China)
The stock market will tank further and shit will go down before it eventually gets better (control or vaccine, who knows)
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:o :o
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could the coronavirus have originated from someone licking this man's diseased butt hole?
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:o :o
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I am on line with Army of One, so far this is going exponential (infections outside China)
The stock market will tank further and shit will go down before it eventually gets better (control or vaccine, who knows)
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Hahaha that’s great
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Italian Coronavirus rap :( -
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As always, Negrodamus right on the money.
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she deserves a medal for doing that.
Fuck the fascist and corrupt Chinese government dictatorship.
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she deserves a medal for doing that.
Fuck the fascist and corrupt Chinese government dictatorship.
Or she could just stop eating fucking bats!
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Or she could just stop eating fucking bats!
Hahahha
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she deserves a medal for doing that.
Fuck the fascist and corrupt Chinese government dictatorship.
Perhaps this disease will help bring their regime down.
Their economy will probably start taking a hit as well which won't help.
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first corona death in america has occured now
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first corona death in america has occured now
Stats? Age and health? How long have they had the virus?
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I am a Trump supporter and a Conservative and him calling this a hoax is political dynamite. Even if it is a hoax, all it takes is one or 2 people to die, even if it can't be proven they had it, and the left is going to run ads of the Corona victim in the hospital with his family giving him a fuckin Teddy Bear intercut with Trump calling it a hoax. If 3 people die, they'll bring the families to the debate and debate and demand Trump apologize. I know he's worried about the stock market but it's in the bag. Like Deontay Wilder, Dems are just awaiting their knockout and you give them this?
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Stats? Age and health? How long have they had the virus?
cnn.com has all the details
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cnn.com has all the details
I already had the info prior to asking. I was just wondering why you didnt include it.
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Stats? Age and health? How long have they had the virus?
Late 50's, presented with pre-existing conditions and severe respiratory distress. No word on how long she was cared for, etc.... 4 others are in serious/grave condition. 1 Washington state healthcare worker just diagnosed ill with it now too.
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First coronavirus first will devastate the country then Trump wont get re elected? Can we handle any more devastating predictions?
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I’m also a Trump supporter and I believe he’s handling this poorly, not so say Dems would do anything better. But the whole pandemic is being handled by incompetent people who are comparing this to the flu. That’s big government for you, I believe this is a planned culling of the masses. Notice how nobody shut flights down immediately with infected countries, the economy is more important to them than millions of lives but without us there is no economy. The goal now is not so much the survival of the virus itself but the survival of the fallout associated with it, such as the gradual shut down of goods and services.
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First coronavirus first will devastate the country then Trump wont get re elected? Can we handle any more devastating predictions?
Truth doesn't matter in elections, its image, especially to Dems. All it takes is one victim, even if its not proven he had Corona, and Dems will have that fuck crying on tv saying the President broke his families heart with his insensitivity.
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anyone succumbs to any flu bug they can call it a coronavirus death....
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First coronavirus death in US confirmed
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I’m also a Trump supporter and I believe he’s handling this poorly, not so say Dems would do anything better. But the whole pandemic is being handled by incompetent people who are comparing this to the flu. That’s big government for you, I believe this is a planned culling of the masses. Notice how nobody shut flights down immediately with infected countries, the economy is more important to them than millions of lives but without us there is no economy. The goal now is not so much the survival of the virus itself but the survival of the fallout associated with it, such as the gradual shut down of goods and services.
If Trump had done NOTHING we'd be in better shape to handle a potential pandemic
As usual, whenever Trump does something he only makes things worse
Last week, the US government overruled objections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to put 14 coronavirus-infected Americans on an airplane with other healthy people.
We have a virtually non-functioning government after almost 4 years of the Retard in Chief dismantling our health infrastructure
In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later. But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/
In 2005, during the H1N5 bird flu scare, the US Agency for International Development ran a program called Predict to identify and research infectious diseases in animal populations in the developing world. Most new viruses that impact humans — apparently including the one causing the Covid-19 disease — emerge through this route, so investing in early research is the kind of thing that, at modest ongoing cost, served to reduce the likelihood of rare but catastrophic events.
The program was initiated under George W. Bush and continued through Barack Obama’s eight years in office; then, last fall the Trump administration shut it down.
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21150574/trump-coronavirus-cdc-cuts
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Truth doesn't matter in elections, its image, especially to Dems. All it takes is one victim, even if its not proven he had Corona, and Dems will have that fuck crying on tv saying the President broke his families heart with his insensitivity.
yeah, that's why the leader of the Republican party has a running list of lies that exceed 10k
why every time he speaks we then get a list of all the lies he has told
Constanting LYING is the core principal of Trumptardism
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Open borders/sanctuary city Dems complaining about quarantines and closing borders faster. :D
Anti-war/code pink Dems mad about peace in Afghanistan. ;D
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I’m also a Trump supporter and I believe he’s handling this poorly, not so say Dems would do anything better. But the whole pandemic is being handled by incompetent people who are comparing this to the flu. That’s big government for you, I believe this is a planned culling of the masses. Notice how nobody shut flights down immediately with infected countries, the economy is more important to them than millions of lives but without us there is no economy. The goal now is not so much the survival of the virus itself but the survival of the fallout associated with it, such as the gradual shut down of goods and services.
Don't drink the cool aid. Obama didn't declare an emergency with the swine flu until 1000 people died in the US. 200K died world wide. Lets keep all of this in perspective. The common flu kills up to 650K a year and 8000 have died in the US in 2019 from the common flu. Trump shut down flights from China limiting our exposure. The Democrats and their complicit news providers are using this disease for politics to regain power. The fear created has crashed the stock market. Mission accomplished Democrats. We just had the first death in the US from the Corona virus today. As far as cuts to the CDC by Trump this happened when it was bloated and working on nothing. It can be revamped quickly. Even a liberal can't blame Trump for China's outbreak.
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I am a Trump supporter and a Conservative and him calling this a hoax is political dynamite. Even if it is a hoax, all it takes is one or 2 people to die, even if it can't be proven they had it, and the left is going to run ads of the Corona victim in the hospital with his family giving him a fuckin Teddy Bear intercut with Trump calling it a hoax. If 3 people die, they'll bring the families to the debate and debate and demand Trump apologize. I know he's worried about the stock market but it's in the bag. Like Deontay Wilder, Dems are just awaiting their knockout and you give them this?
He didn't say it was a hoax. This junk was already debunked, the transcripts are out there that provide context and an factual account of what was actually said.
Please start using your brain.
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He never said it was a hoax, he compared the hysterical mass media news coverage of the coronavirus to the russian collusion BS they spewed for 2 years. All this shit follows the same pattern. Media blasts out half-truths to stir up the masses in a frenzy over nothing. We saw it was net-netruality, Russia, Charlottesville, the tariffs, the tax cuts, solemani and many other things.
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Well?
"We are stronger, we are better, but while we are building a great future, the radical left Democrats in Washington are trying to burn it all down. They have spent the last three years, and I can even go further than that, three years since the election, but we go before the election, working to erase your ballots and overthrow our democracy. But with your help, we have exposed the far left’s corruption and defeated their sinister schemes and let’s see what happens in the coming months. Let’s watch. Let’s just watch. Very dishonest people.
Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, “How’s President Trump doing?” They go, “Oh, not good, not good.” They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa. They can’t even count. No, they can’t. They can’t count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.” That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.
But we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We have 15 people in this massive country and because of the fact that we went early. We went early, we could have had a lot more than that. We’re doing great. Our country is doing so great. "
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-charleston-south-carolina-rally-transcript-february-28-2020 (https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-charleston-south-carolina-rally-transcript-february-28-2020)
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Don't drink the cool aid. Obama didn't declare an emergency with the swine flu until 1000 people died in the US. 200K died world wide. Lets keep all of this in perspective. The common flu kills up to 650K a year and 8000 have died in the US in 2019 from the common flu. Trump shut down flights from China limiting our exposure. The Democrats and their complicit news providers are using this disease for politics to regain power. The fear created has crashed the stock market. Mission accomplished Democrats. We just had the first death in the US from the Corona virus today. As far as cuts to the CDC by Trump this happened when it was bloated and working on nothing. It can be revamped quickly. Even a liberal can't blame Trump for China's outbreak.
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Don't worry, Pence will pray it away.
At least those broke ass red welfare states hopes he will. Otherwise if there is a massive outbreak, it will run through those areas like shit through a pig. With the highest rates of uninsured, obesity, drug abuse, poverty and std that the bible belt is known for, it will kill them off faster than their highest rates of teen pregnancies can repopulate the areas.
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Don't worry, Pence will pray it away.
At least those broke ass red welfare states hopes he will. Otherwise if there is a massive outbreak, it will run through those areas like shit through a pig. With the highest rates of uninsured, obesity, drug abuse, poverty and std that the bible belt is known for, it will kill them off faster than their highest rates of teen pregnancies can repopulate the areas.
No it won't. Not unless they have a seriously compromised immune system.
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So, again, he never said the COVID-19 was a hoax.
The actual words that were said are out there, read them.
After that you can delete this thread and kill yourself.
Useless.
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No it won't. Not unless they have a seriously compromised immune system.
Pretty sure the conditions I listed above will contribute to a compromised immune system.
But no need to worry, the biology department at Trump University is close to finding a cure now.
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Pretty sure the conditions I listed above will contribute to a compromised immune system.
But no need to worry, the biology department at Trump University is close to finding a cure now.
I don't know if you've traveled very much, but there's quite a few drug addicts and obese people in all sorts of blue states. Also a reminder that 60 million people got the swine flu and over 12k died in this country and the media wasn't panicked like it is about corona. Different standard to Trump than Barack.
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I won't waste the time going to youtube but type in Trump calls Corona hoax. His EXACT words. It was in context but that's what he said. I support the guy. It may be a hoax, I hope it is. My point was just to not give the Dems any ammo when the election is won. I promise you'll see some little girl whose Daddy died, probably not even of the Corona virus, but the Dems will use the shit with the little girl holding a photo of her Dad and they'll put a Visine drop to have the tear down her cheek saying..."Mr. President..why did you call my Daddy's death a hoax?" They have no shame so I just want Trump to relax and cruise to victory
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I won't waste the time going to youtube but type in Trump calls Corona hoax. His EXACT words. It was in context but that's what he said.
Trump called the Democrat line that he had failed on the Coronavirus public health issue "their new hoax",alongside previous "hoaxes" like impeachment - not that the Coronavirus itself was a hoax.
Here's the transcript, I've already posted in the thread.
"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, “How’s President Trump doing?” They go, “Oh, not good, not good.” They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa. They can’t even count. No, they can’t. They can’t count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.” That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-charleston-south-carolina-rally-transcript-february-28-2020 (https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-charleston-south-carolina-rally-transcript-february-28-2020)
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I won't waste the time going to youtube but type in Trump calls Corona hoax. His EXACT words. It was in context but that's what he said. I support the guy. It may be a hoax, I hope it is. My point was just to not give the Dems any ammo when the election is won. I promise you'll see some little girl whose Daddy died, probably not even of the Corona virus, but the Dems will use the shit with the little girl holding a photo of her Dad and they'll put a Visine drop to have the tear down her cheek saying..."Mr. President..why did you call my Daddy's death a hoax?" They have no shame so I just want Trump to relax and cruise to victory
He didn't call it a hoax.
Again, please kill yourself.
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The corona virus is shit. It's a weak strain of influenza. Idiots.
Cowards. Cowards.
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The corona virus is shit. It's a weak strain of influenza. Idiots.
Cowards. Cowards.
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Alinsky Rule #9 RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
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If Trump had done NOTHING we'd be in better shape to handle a potential pandemic
As usual, whenever Trump does something he only makes things worse
Last week, the US government overruled objections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to put 14 coronavirus-infected Americans on an airplane with other healthy people.
We have a virtually non-functioning government after almost 4 years of the Retard in Chief dismantling our health infrastructure
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21150574/trump-coronavirus-cdc-cuts
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/02/27/trump-johns-hopkins-study-pandemic-coronaviruscovid-19-649-em0-art1-dtd-health/
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He didn't call it a hoax.
Again, please kill yourself.
You want to parse words and say he called the Dems panic about it a hoax. It doesn't matter. Truth does NOT MATTER in elections. They are already plastering the news with "Trump calls Corona a hoax". Why even use the god damn word? Why give the ammo?
As far as kill yourself remark, you could really hurt someone's feelings saying that.
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So after Bob Mueller, Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, John McCain, Mittens Romney, Adam Schiff, Jerrold Nadler, Jim Comey, Andrew McCabe, Hillary Clinton, Peter Strzok, Jim Clapper, Rashida Tlaib, Ilman Omar, AOC, John Brennan, Lisa Page, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Lieutenant Vindman, and Gloria Allred couldn’t get rid of President Donald Trump.....a media made coronavirus hoax will ?
If there is one thing libidiots will never run out of it is stupidity.
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Did we all die yet ???
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Late 50's, presented with pre-existing conditions and severe respiratory distress. No word on how long she was cared for, etc.... 4 others are in serious/grave condition. 1 Washington state healthcare worker just diagnosed ill with it now too.
So there is still hope that Primemuscle succumbs to it.
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The corona virus is shit. It's a weak strain of influenza. Idiots.
Cowards. Cowards.
There’s literally 700 million people quarantined in china against their will and locked in their apartments right now.
I can’t understand why people are downplaying this and refusing to believe the grave reality of the situation. This is the real deal, probably equal or worse to the Spanish Flu but now add international travel to the mix.
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Did we all die yet ???
Yes we are all in the after getbig life.Seems the same to me so I’m good.
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You want to parse words and say he called the Dems panic about it a hoax.
Trump didn't call the "Coronavirus a hoax", as you stated previously .
Now you've switched to saying that Trump called the "Dems panic about it a hoax". He didn't say that either.
Trump said the Democrat's current line ,that he was doing a bad job on the Coronavirus Outbreak , was a "hoax".
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There’s literally 700 million people quarantined in china against their will and locked in their apartments right now.
I can’t understand why people are downplaying this and refusing to believe the grave reality of the situation. This is the real deal, probably equal or worse to the Spanish Flu but now add international travel to the mix.
Only down playing this here in the US. Trump shut down travel from China to here when this broke out. As far here goes, the left media and left politicians are putting this directly on Trump as just another way to interfere in the 2020 elections since everything else has failed
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So there is still hope that Primemuscle succumbs to it.
Prime has been very quiet since this explosion of cases in the USA plus the first death.
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So there is still hope that Primemuscle succumbs to it.
Yes, it was announced last night we have our first case in Oregon.
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If you want to know how bad things are in Iran
https://mobile.twitter.com/aliostad/status/1233668766124400640
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The corona virus will die out on it's own
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Prime has been very quiet since this explosion of cases in the USA plus the first death.
Thank god something finally shut the senile soggy old queer up.
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he is on route to Basile's basement, where I am also hiding out with blankets and canned food. Thank god I still have WiFi.
Ewwwwwwwww.....
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One person died and people are already freaking out
How many people die in the US everyday again?
Oh that's right - 7,452 people
According to the United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 7,452 people die every day in the United States. In other words, a person dies in the US approximately every 12 seconds.Mar 5, 2018
Meh. ::)
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Only down playing this here in the US. Trump shut down travel from China to here when this broke out. As far here goes, the left media and left politicians are putting this directly on Trump as just another way to interfere in the 2020 elections since everything else has failed
Joe I hate liberals probably more than you but we shouldn’t be hung up on the political aspect of this crisis, because if we don’t get it under control absolutely none of it will matter. Everybody here better prepare for a quarantine because it’s going to get much worse before it’ll get better.
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One person died and people are freaking out
How many people die in the US everyday again?
Oh that's right - 7,452 people
Meh. ::)
The people freaking out are the people who understand exponential growth.Again, it's looking like it's 5x or more infectious and 20x+ more deadly. Actually think about what it's like to have 1 person infect an average of 5 people, compared to flu infecting 1.3.Then think about those 1 out of every thousand dying of flu, compared to 20 out of a thousand dying from getting coronavirus.Then think about the fact those flu deaths don't overwhelm the hospitals, then think about the almost certainty the corona deaths will.At that point you can throw the 2% fatality of corona out the window because if people who need respirators, iv etc are not getting medical care then that % will go through the roof.Think about what the figures are going to look like in a month,2 months etc...
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The greater part of Communist China has long been quarantined. That's what Communism does. It holds it's own hostage.
Just like islime.
FTN.
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They need to concentrate on the CLV and get it under control ASAP. Liberals are the carriers.
Chicken Little Virus.
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1 person has died, but that is a hoax too! Dear leader said so!
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IMPOTUS has it all under control
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/trumps-coronavirus-chart.jpg)
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IMPOTUS has it all under control
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I hope it catches you.
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57 countries with confirmed cases. Fuck China.
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Trump called the politicizing the virus for political gain a hoax. We have one death and that's because Trump stopped the flights from China from coming in. He declared this an emergency early as opposed to Obama who waited till their was around 1000 deaths from the Swine flu in the US then appointed an Al Gore flunky as the czar in charge of fighting it. Trump picked the number two most powerful man in the country to be the liaison between the government and the doctors and scientists of the CDC. Make no mistake Democrats are using this disease as a political weapon. The stock market has crashed due to their fear mongering. Nothing would make Democrats happier than for the economy to fail so they can blame Trump so they can regain power to line their pockets.
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Did I miss the part where Trump called it a hoax? Maybe I did, I don't know, but that would seem like an important detail in a thread titled "Trump calling Corona a hoax".
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flu
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flu
Exactly, brother. ;D
CLV. Chicken Little Virus. It's not as though we don't take this virus seriously but that we don't take crazy wacky, uneccessary jibberish seriously.
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I don't know if you've traveled very much, but there's quite a few drug addicts and obese people in all sorts of blue states. Also a reminder that 60 million people got the swine flu and over 12k died in this country and the media wasn't panicked like it is about corona. Different standard to Trump than Barack.
Not with the abundance that there are in red states.
How many of those that died from swine flu were quarantined when it broke out? Don't worry, Jesus will save you. But only if he gets enough Likes.
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It's simply a risk Vs reward scenario.It costs peanuts to prep and if nothing happens you have a few months of healthy food and don't need to shop for a while.If something happens, you might die because you said "it's just flu, bro", then got shot by Jamal and Tyrone while fighting over the last rice packet in the shop you are looting.Intelligent people do the former, low IQ the latter.
Lol, saw this on another board
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57 countries with confirmed cases. Fuck China.
First Aussie just died as well.
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This thread is so retarded....
Above post "infect half US population in a year?" LOL the spread of the virus has already slowed in China's worst affected areas and they only have in the tens of thousands of cases... After almost three months.
How anyone thinks from here it's going to infect 170 000 000 Americans within twelve months? Hysteria. There is no evidence for any of the nonsense being posted here.
This.
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This.
Care to explain?
CDC estimates that flu has resulted in between 9.3 million and 49 million illnesses each year in the United States since 2010.Multiply that by 5 or more, then factor in because more people get infected and get infected quicker, they can then pass it on much quicker, the exponential effect it will have.
if we just take the middle range of those numbers and multiply by a conservative 5, that's 30 million x 5.150 million Americans, USA population is 327 million, so it's basically 50% like predicted.
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This is what Trump said. He was referring to Democrats politicizing the disease.
"One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over. They’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.”
Liberals are hateful, intolerant, violent and spin the truth to lies for political gain.
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This is what Trump said. He was referring to Democrats politicizing the disease.
"One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over. They’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.”
Liberals are hateful, intolerant, violent and spin the truth to lies for political gain.
They intentionally misunderstand. There are so many examples of this kind of thing regarding Trump. They know damn well what he means.
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Looks like it's been in Washington for 6 weeks.This is about to blow up there.
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Trump didn't even call it a hoax ::)
Thread fail....
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They intentionally misunderstand. There are so many examples of this kind of thing regarding Trump. They know damn well what he means.
Yep it's pathetic, they just hope their false info will get traction... Desperation due to incompetence.
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First Aussie just died as well.
This is not suggestive of the virus spreading, these fatalities are from the cruise ship these people have been in care since infection. A 78 year old male rip....
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California will be reporting all kinds of new stuff this coming week to drop the markets. The west coast has the most...cases and political enemies.
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All it takes is one victim, even if its not proven he had Corona, and Dems will have that fuck crying on tv saying the President broke his families heart with his insensitivity.
Since when was Trump giving a fuck about such stunts?
How will this hurt his image?
I don't see it.
He will give snazy "democrats are liars and it's all fake" response,like always.
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I have just the man for the job! :
But, but...I'm not a doctor. I'd be in serious trouble if I did this...probably be sharing a prison cell with Harvey Weinstein, which for some reason doesn't seem like it would be much fun. :)
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First Aussie just died as well.
Numerous deaths now also in Thailand (but being kept quiet and reported as “lung infection” or “pneumonia”. Again remember who told you this would happen.
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https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/02/29/coronavirus-victim-united-states-washington-vpx.cnn
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Numerous deaths now also in Thailand (but being kept quiet and reported as “lung infection” or “pneumonia”. Again remember who told you this would happen.
Let me guess. A few 90 year old people... who would’ve died later this year anyway.
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1 person has died, but that is a hoax too! Dear leader said so!
Horribly stupid post. 99% of the time you don't think before posting.
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Let me guess. A few 90 year old people... who would’ve died later this year anyway.
What's going to happen when a few 90yr old people have every bed at every hospital, and are being seen by every doctor at every emergency service, with more coming in?
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What's going to happen when a few 90yr old people have every bed at every hospital, and are being seen by every doctor at every emergency service, with more coming in?
WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE
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WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE
:o :o :o
:o :o :o
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Flu results in "about 250,000 to 500,000 yearly deaths" worldwide
—2,933 deaths have been linked to the virus. And 39,695 individuals have recovered from COVID-19.
:o :o
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:o :o
I’ll start to worry once the CV related deaths lead to as many deaths as the flu.
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Lmao!! 😭😭😂😂😂
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:o :o
:o :o
"Autopsies show severe damage to COVID-19 patients' lungs and immune system, according to a doctor in Wuhan reached by the Global Times, who called for measures to prevent fibrosis of the lungs at an early stage of the disease.
"The influence of COVID-19 on the human body is like a combination of SARS and AIDS as it damages both the lungs and immune systems," Peng Zhiyong, director of the intensive care unit of the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University in Wuhan, told the Global Times on Friday. "
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181121.shtml
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HAHAHAHAHA!
Culling the herd of weak sick cattle.
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https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/245694575
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When was the last time you saw the White House praying against flu?
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Exponential
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Do not get fooled, this so called "Coronavirus" is nothing more than a media's creation.
It's all propaganda, they're brainwashing people while creating mass hysteria. It's nothing more than a flu, and has been around well before this nonsense started.
I'm from Italy by the way, some people are at least waking up.
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This.
You trust the CCP numbers... that speaks volumes. Apparently only a couple hundred people die of the flu there annually. Puts things in perspective of how much they lie.
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Do not get fooled, this so called "Coronavirus" is nothing more than a media's creation.
It's all propaganda, they're brainwashing people while creating mass hysteria. It's nothing more than a flu, and has been around well before this nonsense started.
I'm from Italy by the way, some people are at least waking up.
It's nothing like flu, it's like calling a dog a cat.Its basically airborne viral pneumonia that will kill 10 %+ of the population if hospitals get overrun, which thy will.There are already studies out that disprove every aspect of your assumption that it's just flu.Even looking at your own country, 35 or so have died and 1700 infected, most early stage so many more will die of the 1700.Even if no more were to die of that 1700 that's still 2%.When the hospitals are all full and people can't get treatment expect that % to rise rapidly.
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It's nothing like flu, it's like calling a dog a cat.Its basically airborne viral pneumonia that will kill 10 %+ of the population if hospitals get overrun, which thy will.There are already studies out that disprove every aspect of your assumption that it's just flu.Even looking at your own country, 35 or so have died and 1700 infected, most early stage so many more will die of the 1700.Even if no more were to die of that 1700 that's still 2%.When the hospitals are all full and people can't get treatment expect that % to rise rapidly.
You're fooled. Known virologists came out saying that this is madness, creating fear for nothing, since the virus is nothing more than a flu.
The people who died were basically all 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such. They had their immune-system already compromised and shut down.
Exactly the same stuff that happens with a flu. Lots of people are dying to flu every year, check the numbers, but i don't see all this nonsense happening.
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You're fooled. Known virologists came out saying that this is madness, creating fear for nothing, since the virus is nothing more than a flu.
The people who died were basically all 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such. They had their immune-system already compromised and shut down.
Exactly the same stuff that happens with a flu. Lots of people are dying to flu every year, check the numbers, but i don't see all this nonsense happening.
If just 15% of the people who catch this need artificial ventilation do you think the hospitals will be just fine? This will certainly be a disaster but your head is in the sand.
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You're fooled. Known virologists came out saying that this is madness, creating fear for nothing, since the virus is nothing more than a flu.
The people who died were basically all 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such. They had their immune-system already compromised and shut down.
Exactly the same stuff that happens with a flu. Lots of people are dying to flu every year, check the numbers, but i don't see all this nonsense happening.
in the UK in 2017/18 flu season it killed 28,000 people
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The people who died were basically all 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such. They had their immune-system already compromised and shut down.
You are basically just agreeing with me.whats going to happen when the 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such, clog up every available medical resource in Italy?when all the drugs are gone because they are given to them?What happens when the 19 year old fast spreading melanoma patient comes in who will die in 2 weeks if he isn't scanned?When the 5 23yr old car wreck critical patients can't get beds?When the 7yr old asthmatic can't get access to oxygen?When the 14yr old diabetic can't get his insulin?You are thinking WAY too basic and 1 level about this all.
Again it's going EXPONENTIAL.When there are 5x the weekly flu patients coming in from corona in a short time from now, and most countries couldn't handle the current flu rate doubling, what do you think will happen?
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/30/winter-deaths-hit-highest-level-40-years-experts-blame-ineffective/
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports
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You are basically just agreeing with me.whats going to happen when the 70-80-90 years old people with pre-existing diseases like cancer and such, clog up every available medical resource in Italy?when all the drugs are gone because they are given to them?What happens when the 19 year old fast spreading melanoma patient comes in who will die in 2 weeks if he isn't scanned?When the 5 23yr old car wreck critical patients can't get beds?When the 7yr old asthmatic can't get access to oxygen?When the 14yr old diabetic can't get his insulin?You are thinking WAY too basic and 1 level about this all.
Again it's going EXPONENTIAL.When there are 5x the weekly flu patients coming in from corona in a short time from now, and most countries couldn't handle the current flu rate doubling, what do you think will happen?
they will start sending people home with flu....
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they will start sending people home with flu....
Maybe your mind can start to picture things better.If we get a ton of corona cases within a short time period, and 20% are critical, as in they die if they don't get a bed.Well, you can work it out from here.
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Maybe your mind can start to picture things better.If we get a ton of corona cases within a short time period, and 20% are critical, as in they die if they don't get a bed.Well, you can work it out from here.
A load of societal burdens kick the bucket...I fail to see the problem...
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A load of societal burdens kick the bucket...I fail to see the problem...
Problem is the media.
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Did it matter that Trump, Russia and the dossier was bullshit? Nope, 24 hour coverage.Did it matter that Trump and Ukraine was bullshit? Nope, not only 24 hour coverage but an impeachment.Did it matter some porn whore was out for a moneygrab? Nope, 24 hour coverage.
The Dems are RUTHLESS LIARS and giving them ANY ammo is a bad idea when the election is in he bag and they control the media.
You simply say, "As your President I took ACTION so that this virus was dealt with and conatined while the Dems choked as usual, panicking and using fear as they always do to to confront a problem. When it comes to the safety of America, we can't have choke artists that panic under stress"
GAME OVER
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It's nothing like flu, it's like calling a dog a cat.Its basically airborne viral pneumonia that will kill 10 %+ of the population if hospitals get overrun, which thy will.There are already studies out that disprove every aspect of your assumption that it's just flu.Even looking at your own country, 35 or so have died and 1700 infected, most early stage so many more will die of the 1700.Even if no more were to die of that 1700 that's still 2%.When the hospitals are all full and people can't get treatment expect that % to rise rapidly.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus
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Lmao!! 😭😭😂😂😂
they both have very big brains and can get by on prayer alone.
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https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181121.shtml
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i think he's wondering if he can bang these trailer park whore Christians who are praying for him . look at the look on his face. :D :D :D :D
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https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181121.shtml
Webmd is not accurate? But this Chinese information sharing website is? Got it.
Also the autopsy was on an 85 year old man....
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Webmd is not accurate? But this Chinese information sharing website is? Got it
Who is going to be more knowledgeable, fucking WebMD who hasn't seen single death up close or a forensic specialist in China who has conducted 9 autopsies on dead COVID-19 Patients?This is a day by day situation learning wise on a new virus and the best info right now is coming from Asia as they are at least a month ahead of the west.
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https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/02/29/coronavirus-victim-united-states-washington-vpx.cnn
Guess I won't be going up to Seattle anytime soon.
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What's going to happen when a few 90yr old people have every bed at every hospital, and are being seen by every doctor at every emergency service, with more coming in?
Really? Are there that many 90 year old people....all of whom will get the coronavirus? ::) Well if that happens and you get the coronavirus, you'll just have to wait your turn.
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I’ll start to worry once the CV related deaths lead to as many deaths as the flu.
Do something positive like washing your hands instead of worrying. Worry gets you nowhere.
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Really? Are there that many 90 year old people....all of whom will get the coronavirus? ::) Well if that happens and you get the coronavirus, you'll just have to wait your turn.
I was quoting him, he basically meant "old people", of which there are many.
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When was the last time you saw the White House praying against flu?
So impressive! Wonder what they are actually thinking.....my guess is something like, this should get me a few more votes at the next election.
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I was quoting him, he basically meant "old people", of which there are many.
And don't I know it....being 75 years old myself. What do you suppose Army of One will do when his end of the world predictions do not come to pass? Maybe lay low and wait for the next big thing to come along like most alarmists do.
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i think he's wondering if he can bang these trailer park whore Christians who are praying for him . look at the look on his face. :D :D :D :D
You know what he's thinking, so would i
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Do something positive like washing your hands instead of worrying. Worry gets you nowhere.
Worry and fear are survival instincts to tip you off to danger.
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Worry and fear are survival instincts to tip you off to danger.
Worry and fear are valuable only when there is something you can do to avoid harm. Unless you are in a position to completely isolate yourself and your family, you'll be susceptible to catching the virus, should it become that widespread.
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Did it matter that Trump, Russia and the dossier was bullshit? Nope, 24 hour coverage.Did it matter that Trump and Ukraine was bullshit? Nope, not only 24 hour coverage but an impeachment.Did it matter some porn whore was out for a moneygrab? Nope, 24 hour coverage.
The Dems are RUTHLESS LIARS and giving them ANY ammo is a bad idea when the election is in he bag and they control the media.
You simply say, "As your President I took ACTION so that this virus was dealt with and conatined while the Dems choked as usual, panicking and using fear as they always do to to confront a problem. When it comes to the safety of America, we can't have choke artists that panic under stress"
GAME OVER
Facts. GAME FUCKING OVER.
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6' = Taller than Wahl Markberg
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6' = Taller than Wahl Markberg
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God damn those ass cheeks.Kwon you really make great posts, bravo sir.
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I'm about to head to the gym and place my hands on some greasy handle dumbbells that a thousand men have held before.
And not a care or worry in the world.
Might not even get my shower later on just to let it baste a little more.
Just to put me in the graveyard a couple days earlier.
Have fun with your little pity party and Trump Derangement meltdowns.
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:)
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First case confirmed in New York, a female from Albany
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First case confirmed in New York, a female from Albany
News flash...Rain, wet!
No offense but as said elsewhere, this doomsday thinking is deja vu all over again.
But again, I hope it decimates libs, ChiComs and islime so thoroughly they never recover. They deserve to be wiped clean by the wrath of Nature.
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2 cases in Florida now.
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News flash...Rain, wet!
No offense but as said elsewhere, this doomsday thinking is deja vu all over again.
But again, I hope it decimates libs, ChiComs and islime so thoroughly they never recover. They deserve to be wiped clean by the wrath of Nature.
You hope is wasted. Viruses, including the Coronavirus, don't discriminate between liberal and conservative folks, communists, socialist and capitalist or against people of different religious beliefs. It does however favor killing people beyond a certain age and those already suffering poor health. You'd do better to hope science finds a vaccine to help prevent old, sick people catching it.
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Relax at the end of the day facts are facts, Its the flu just a lot more contagious than your standard flu and only 2% of people who contract it are dieing with a large majority being in the 70+ population. The main bumble fuck will be economic slow down due to so many people being sick since the virus is highly contagious and also people avoiding large events/gatherings and slow down in commerce due to the virus being so contagious. Your best defense is avoiding large gatherings of people always washing hands and not touching your face (eyes, nose, mouth). Its not end of days or NWO end of the stock market its an unaccounted blip in world growth for 2020. China estimated a 6% growth annually for 2020 if they produce a 0% growth in Quarter 1 and or Quarter 2 it will make it impossible to hit 6% growth for the year like projected, Therefor china will be in a recession for the year of 2020, with a growth of 3-4% annually due to the virus, so the world economy should see a hit since china is such a large piece of the pie. The same is the inverse!!!
THe last 10 years have been awesome for the USA stock market!!!! Has anyone bothered to look at the Chinese stock market and economy the past 10 years? Yeah they've had tremendous GROWTH more so than the USA!!!
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Worry and fear are survival instincts to tip you off to danger.
And scared squirrels are at the top of the food chain.
Again worrying is not real, If you have a problem there are two choices you can do something about it So worrying is stupid you should focus on what you can do to change things, Or you can't change things and its stupid to worry about because you're just making yourself feel shitty early about something that will eventually come and theres nothing you can do.
Worry and Fear are defense mechanisms to make you feel better about not doing anything.
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A great time to travel.
Zero Chinese tour groups, 85% discounts on accommodation, and near empty tourist sites.
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A great time to travel.
Zero Chinese tour groups, 85% discounts on accommodation, and near empty tourist sites.
My wife and I had flight and resort reservations for a trip to the Caribbean, but a hurricane delayed
our flight by a few days. When we arrived at the resort, the place was almost empty, so Marriott
upgraded us to the more expensive section of the resort (closer to the kitchen and staff) for free.
They benefited from fewer staff and less work; we benefited from nicer accommodations.
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let's see how the american stock market opens today. I would not be suprised if S&P 500 closes 3 or 4 percent in the red today.
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let's see how the american stock market opens today. I would not be suprised if S&P 500 closes 3 or 4 percent in the red today.
I'll be watching with great interest.
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I'll be watching with great interest.
Me too, but I will probably not be buying more stocks before this corona situation is a little bit controlled.
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And scared squirrels are at the top of the food chain.
Again worrying is not real, If you have a problem there are two choices you can do something about it So worrying is stupid you should focus on what you can do to change things, Or you can't change things and its stupid to worry about because you're just making yourself feel shitty early about something that will eventually come and theres nothing you can do.
Worry and Fear are defense mechanisms to make you feel better about not doing anything.
Very good. I concur.
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A great time to travel.
Zero Chinese tour groups, 85% discounts on accommodation, and near empty tourist sites.
I'll pass.
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2 cases in Florida now.
11 here in Sweden now
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And scared squirrels are at the top of the food chain.
Again worrying is not real, If you have a problem there are two choices you can do something about it So worrying is stupid you should focus on what you can do to change things, Or you can't change things and its stupid to worry about because you're just making yourself feel shitty early about something that will eventually come and theres nothing you can do.
Worry and Fear are defense mechanisms to make you feel better about not doing anything.
I already did as much as I can do for the moment out of fear and worry so now I am much more prepared than I would be had I been ignorant of the danger. Make sense? I’m not a nervous wreck over this but I fully understand the potential for a real catastrophe.
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All trump has to do is offer any pharmaceutical company $1 billion tax free to the first that creates a cure. I’m sure they’d have one by end of week.
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Lol you do realize at least at this moment we live in a CAPITALIST country meaning anyone who came up with a cure or vaccine. Could then sell it for whatever price they want and make as much money as they can generate. You to have this option. I love this give shit. Just give money. That only works when you’re a child with parents who Un like you worked hard saved their money and then in some rocket scientist idea decicede. I won’t teach my kid yo work hard and save money I’ll just give them lots of money and gifts and I wonder what type of thinking and behavior I’m instilling?
Oh yeah here comes warren and Bernie to give you more allowance.
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Head of UK health was interviewed this morning on GMTV, he said its a flu bug and 98% of people who catch it will recover in a few days, the only concern was people going to hospital with flu symptoms
If you get flu you are not physically able to go to hospital, you are in bed fucked...
Piers Morgan and Suzanna Reid did their best to try and get him to say it was more serious than it was but he wouldnt..
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Head of UK health was interviewed this morning on GMTV, he said its a flu bug and 98% of people who catch it will recover in a few days, the only concern was people going to hospital with flu symptoms
If you get flu you are not physically able to go to hospital, you are in bed fucked...
Piers Morgan and Suzanna Reid did their best to try and get him to say it was more serious than it was but he wouldnt..
How many times does it have to be said....it's really very simple....20% or so of those infected will need hospital beds and a respirator...each person currently infected is thought to infect anywhere from 4-8 people....even with just current diseases floating around hospital beds are near capacity..... Of those 20% over 10% will die without hospital care......all the big organisations are trying to do at the moment is stop panic.....and rightly so as the country would go crazy if everyone rushes around at once stocking up, quitting work etc...the phrases to watch out for which they are all using is "right now" , "at this point" or "currently"....
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The Democrats and their complicit media are trying to spread fear to crash the economy prior to the election.
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How many times does it have to be said....it's really very simple....20% or so of those infected will need hospital beds and a respirator...each person currently infected is thought to infect anywhere from 4-8 people....even with just current diseases floating around hospital beds are near capacity..... Of those 20% over 10% will die without hospital care......all the big organisations are trying to do at the moment is stop panic.....and rightly so as the country would go crazy if everyone rushes around at once stocking up, quitting work etc...the phrases to watch out for which they are all using is "right now" , "at this point" or "currently"....
No, they really wont...its getting boring now your trolling, you cant really be this dumb without acting..
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No, they really wont...its getting boring now your trolling, you cant really be this dumb without acting..
He's got some serious mental issues....look at all the weird stuff he posts. Even if he's just trolling he's still weird.
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He's got some serious mental issues....look at all the weird stuff he posts. Even if he's just trolling he's still weird.
Serious mental issues for looking at the facts and statistics to make a prediction ??? Serious mental issues is burying your head in the sand.
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Lol you do realize at least at this moment we live in a CAPITALIST country meaning anyone who came up with a cure or vaccine. Could then sell it for whatever price they want and make as much money as they can generate.
this will probably happen (vaccine) but we dont know when
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No, they really wont...its getting boring now your trolling, you cant really be this dumb without acting..
Maybe you should work for the government, you seem to know more than them.
"Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon highlights reasonable worst case figure that 80% of population could be hit"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8064677/Boris-Johnson-vows-stop-combat-Coronavirus.html
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How many times does it have to be said....it's really very simple....20% or so of those infected will need hospital beds and a respirator...each person currently infected is thought to infect anywhere from 4-8 people....even with just current diseases floating around hospital beds are near capacity..... Of those 20% over 10% will die without hospital care......all the big organisations are trying to do at the moment is stop panic.....and rightly so as the country would go crazy if everyone rushes around at once stocking up, quitting work etc...the phrases to watch out for which they are all using is "right now" , "at this point" or "currently"....
Organisation = British spelling; organization = American English spelling.
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Organisation = British spelling; organization = American English spelling.
Where do you think I'm from?
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Where do you think I'm from?
No idea. Why do you use British spelling?
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No idea. Why do you use British spelling?
My bike has tyres; occasionally they get a puncture.
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My bike has tyres; occasionally they get a puncture.
Don't go putting on airs.
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No idea. Why do you use British spelling?
The clue is in there somewhere....
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The clue is in there somewhere....
Yes. The clue has spoken. :)
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Don't go putting on airs.
One of my daughters has to learn a monologue, so we have been watching multiple performances of The Importance of Being Earnest.
Can’t be helped.
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6 people dead, and dear leader hasn't figured it out
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-push-back/index.html
President Donald Trump was contradicted by a health expert on his coronavirus task force over the timing for a potential vaccine during a briefing Monday.
Trump was asked about a timeline for a vaccine during the Cabinet Room meeting with pharmaceutical executives and members of his task force.
"I don't know what the time will be. I've heard very quick numbers, that of months. And I've heard pretty much a year would be an outside number. So I think that's not a bad range. But if you're talking about three to four months in a couple of cases, a year in other cases," Trump said.
But Dr. Antony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, immediately corrected the President: "Let me make sure you get the ... information. A vaccine that you make and start testing in a year is not a vaccine that's deployable."
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2 of the 6 dead in Washington state were a man in his 40s and a man in his 50s.Also a video of an Iranian hospital with bodies piling up.
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6 people dead, and dear leader hasn't figured it out
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-push-back/index.html
President Donald Trump was contradicted by a health expert on his coronavirus task force over the timing for a potential vaccine during a briefing Monday.
Trump was asked about a timeline for a vaccine during the Cabinet Room meeting with pharmaceutical executives and members of his task force.
"I don't know what the time will be. I've heard very quick numbers, that of months. And I've heard pretty much a year would be an outside number. So I think that's not a bad range. But if you're talking about three to four months in a couple of cases, a year in other cases," Trump said.
But Dr. Antony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, immediately corrected the President: "Let me make sure you get the ... information. A vaccine that you make and start testing in a year is not a vaccine that's deployable."
Are you saying that an infectious disease doctor knows more about infectious disease than trump?
Clearly, you’re someone who hates Trump if you think this.
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98 year old recovered from corona
https://twitter.com/eluniversocom/status/1234617854026227712?s=20
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2 of the 6 dead in Washington state were a man in his 40s and a man in his 50s.Also a video of an Iranian hospital with bodies piling up.
You've been a member of this site for 15 years and you are really going to allow your reputation to die on this silly little hill?
People don't forget, Army Of One.
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You've been a member of this site for 15 years and you are really going to allow your reputation to die on this silly little hill?
People don't forget, Army Of One.
I'm confused.Im just posting the days factual information ???
Also I'm seeing a pattern
Chinese health officials: human to human transmission confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of human to human transmission, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: there is human to human transmission
Chinese health officials: it spreads asymptomatically
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence it spreads asymptomatically, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: it spreads asymptomatically
Chinese health officials: airborne confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of airborne transmission, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: there is airborne transmission
Chinese health officials: reinfection confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of reinfection
???
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This is the kind of stuff nobody is thinking ahead about here
25% of fire dept out of commission: “Two Kirkland police officers and 26 firefighters — a quarter of the city’s fire department — are “self-quarantined” because they came in contact with residents and employees of Life Care during calls
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1234682117268705280
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You've been a member of this site for 15 years and you are really going to allow your reputation to die on this silly little hill?
People don't forget, Army Of One.
What are you talking about?
Army is just giving us the daily.
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What are you talking about?
Army is just giving us the daily.
Ah I'm just having a bit of fun like the rest of the crazies out here 8)
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8068615/Boris-Johnson-gathers-Cabinet-sign-coronavirus-battle-plan.html
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No, they really wont...its getting boring now your trolling, you cant really be this dumb without acting..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8069015/Is-NHS-running-coronavirus-beds-Cases-Devon-bizarrely-transferred-400-MILES-away.html
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What are you talking about?
Army is just giving us the daily.
Yes, army is just keeping us all up to date with level headed corona virus information as it comes in ;D
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youtube is recommending me videos about all kinds of virus outbreaks and the great depression. If their bots just push this to all viewers, then this will just make people even more scared.
But views are more admoney to them so I guess they dont care.
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Coronavirus causing black eyes now >:(
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51722686
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8069015/Is-NHS-running-coronavirus-beds-Cases-Devon-bizarrely-transferred-400-MILES-away.html
the NHS will run out of beds because people like you are shit scaring everyone who now go to hospital when they have flu instead of sitting on the sofa at home...
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Coronavirus causing black eyes now >:(
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51722686
"When he confronted the 4 men". yeah, not the best idea.This isn't China or the USA, where it's all talk.If it's a group and you are on your own, walk away.
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the NHS will run out of beds because people like you are shit scaring everyone who now go to hospital when they have flu instead of sitting on the sofa at home...
10-20% of the infected will need hospital treatment, Nichola Sturgeon says realistic scenario is 80% of Britain could be infected.Beds already nearly gone.Im starting to question your ability to think logically.
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10-20% of the infected will need hospital treatment, Nichola Sturgeon says realistic scenario is 80% of Britain could be infected.Beds already nearly gone.Im starting to question your ability to think logically.
Oh right, now Im with you, as long as the MP for Scotland has explained it Im convinced...
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"When he confronted the 4 men". yeah, not the best idea.This isn't China or the USA, where it's all talk.If it's a group and you are on your own, walk away.
The jokes on them. Now they are all infected with Corona
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Ah I'm just having a bit of fun like the rest of the crazies out here 8)
AH it's all good!
Huggles!
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I love the corona virus. It lets me know which of my friends really are stupid and not just pretending to be stupid. Laughable rubbish.
Long live the corona virus!
More people die from octopus attacks.
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They ( CNN ) just reported that the NBA has advised players not to high five fans or sign autographs. And New York has just reported it’s first two confirmed cases of Covid -19, and one has been identified as serious - he is a lawyer who works in Manhattan.
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Lol
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Oh right, now Im with you, as long as the MP for Scotland has explained it Im convinced...
Maybe go on Twitter and tell The World Health Organisation they are wrong too
https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1234872254883909642
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Maybe go on Twitter and tell The World Health Organisation they are wrong too
https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1234872254883909642
OK, I will listen to their advice
If you are in an area where there is an outbreak of COVID-19 you need to take the risk of infection seriously. Follow the advice issued by national and local health authorities. Although for most people COVID-19 causes only mild illness, it can make some people very ill. More rarely, the disease can be fatal. Older people, and those with pre-existing medical conditions (such as high blood pressure, heart problems or diabetes) appear to be more vulnerable.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
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Lol
He is a complete retard, so no surprises there.
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Remember all those videos of people suddenly dropping dead in Iran and China....?Just now from China Town, New York.Note the face mask.More videos of EMT turning up and taking him away on a stretcher.
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1583271804134.webm
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I love the corona virus. It lets me know which of my friends really are stupid and not just pretending to be stupid. Laughable rubbish.
Long live the corona virus!
More people die from octopus attacks.
Don’t say us Getbig experts didn’t warn you.
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I'm confused.Im just posting the days factual information ???
Also I'm seeing a pattern
Chinese health officials: human to human transmission confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of human to human transmission, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: there is human to human transmission
Chinese health officials: it spreads asymptomatically
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence it spreads asymptomatically, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: it spreads asymptomatically
Chinese health officials: airborne confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of airborne transmission, it's not a concern
Western experts a month later: there is airborne transmission
Chinese health officials: reinfection confirmed
Western experts a week later: there is no evidence of reinfection
???
I'm not disputing what you've posted, but knowing your source would be helpful.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FabianKeiser/status/1234963646071136256
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Maybe go on Twitter and tell The World Health Organisation they are wrong too
https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1234872254883909642
Yeah WHO never male mistakes ::)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FabianKeiser/status/1234963646071136256
Collapsing on the streets of NYC has occurred only once before.
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No one realizes they have a vaccine already? Gotta get the death count high enough for maximum profit when they release it. Government has been doing this shit forever. They are working out the financials of who gets the patent and what government officials get the kickbacks.They don't want another debacle like the flu virus where all the companies were fighting over the patent and profit was diluted.
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dear leader will provide the leadership we need
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dear leader will provide the leadership we need
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You are posting a lot of memes 🙄
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No one realizes they have a vaccine already? Gotta get the death count high enough for maximum profit when they release it. Government has been doing this shit forever. They are working out the financials of who gets the patent and what government officials get the kickbacks.They don't want another debacle like the flu virus where all the companies were fighting over the patent and profit was diluted.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html
WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally
"To put the current COVID-19 estimates in context, the 1918 Spanish influenza pandemic — one of the deadliest of all time — infected about 500 million people, and killed more than 2.5 percent of all those infected."
THIS is what the only 2.5% was like:
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the orange turd generously donates his Q4 salary to address a "hoax"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-donates-his-2019-fourth-quarter-salary-to-help-combat-coronavirus/ar-BB10HmDd
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the orange turd generously donates his Q4 salary to address a "hoax"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-donates-his-2019-fourth-quarter-salary-to-help-combat-coronavirus/ar-BB10HmDd
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It is my fervent hope that you catch it and go the way of the Dodo.
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No one realizes they have a vaccine already? Gotta get the death count high enough for maximum profit when they release it. Government has been doing this shit forever. They are working out the financials of who gets the patent and what government officials get the kickbacks.They don't want another debacle like the flu virus where all the companies were fighting over the patent and profit was diluted.
This is a comment that grossly simplifies the various aspects at play. I can't blame you for being cynical though.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html
WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally
"To put the current COVID-19 estimates in context, the 1918 Spanish influenza pandemic — one of the deadliest of all time — infected about 500 million people, and killed more than 2.5 percent of all those infected."
THIS is what the only 2.5% was like:
Army, as you know now, I am fully connected with a wide range of broad and advance information on this. Overall death rate of all infected people is lower that what you are citing. However, if you are to take the rate of those who are positively diagnosed in the first place, and who of course have been ill enough to have gone to a doctor and then to have been further tested, then yes you get the death rate you have mentioned (indeed even higher if you were to take certain demographics). But, again, as I have advised before, there are many many in our populations who are infected and show almost no symptoms - eg kids who may get a slight fever and cough but who continue to go to school, run around etc, teenagers who also seem to handle the virus well, and also many who it hits pretty hard, like an awful flu, but who recover quite fine (possibly with some slight residual lung or organ damage which will largely heal over time).
Again, if anyone has questions, I can answer.
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the orange turd generously donates his Q4 salary to address a "hoax"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-donates-his-2019-fourth-quarter-salary-to-help-combat-coronavirus/ar-BB10HmDd
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Your life must really suck when you're gleefully posting about an economic downturn.
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Your life must really suck when you're gleefully posting about an economic downturn.
Imagine being such a miserable piece of shit that you are rooting for a pandemic to spread and for the economy to tank.
A shitload of people fall into this category right now.
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This is a comment that grossly simplifies the various aspects at play. I can't blame you for being cynical though.
They are trying to get China out of the picture for Gilead pharma stock(NASDAQ:GILD) to get the full patent. Insiders like government puppets will know how the patent will work out before Wall Street and use the Hunter Biden type puppets to invest for them. And isn't China nice? Worried about the patent war while it's people are dying.
China Wants To Patent Gilead's Experimental Coronavirus Drug(Investors Business Daily)
Chinese researchers have applied for a patent on an antiviral drug candidate called remdesevir owned by Gilead Sciences Inc. The drug is being tested in clinical trials in short order, but the company could eventually be cut out.
If the patent is granted, it will confirm long-standing drugmaker fears about China’s commitment to IP protection, raising concern about the industry’s future in a crucial market. It also could further erode the already weak incentives for pharma to invest in drugs to combat emerging infectious diseases. The risks of seizing the patent may outweigh any benefit.
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Yeah WHO never male mistakes ::)
Freudian slip?
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No one realizes they have a vaccine already? Gotta get the death count high enough for maximum profit when they release it. Government has been doing this shit forever. They are working out the financials of who gets the patent and what government officials get the kickbacks.They don't want another debacle like the flu virus where all the companies were fighting over the patent and profit was diluted.
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Army, as you know now, I am fully connected with a wide range of broad and advance information on this. Overall death rate of all infected people is lower that what you are citing. However, if you are to take the rate of those who are positively diagnosed in the first place, and who of course have been ill enough to have gone to a doctor and then to have been further tested, then yes you get the death rate you have mentioned (indeed even higher if you were to take certain demographics). But, again, as I have advised before, there are many many in our populations who are infected and show almost no symptoms - eg kids who may get a slight fever and cough but who continue to go to school, run around etc, teenagers who also seem to handle the virus well, and also many who it hits pretty hard, like an awful flu, but who recover quite fine (possibly with some slight residual lung or organ damage which will largely heal over time).
Again, if anyone has questions, I can answer.
It seem to me that there will be WHO statistics and death rate which has been calculated by the facts, and then US statistics, which has been calculated by patients income. At the moment there is 125 cases of this virus in the US, and 9 deaths. Only 8 has recovered, and US is only country where amount of deaths is larger than amount of recovered people. Amount of cases has doubled from Monday, and amount of deaths has tripled. Let see where this is going ;D
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It seem to me that there will be WHO statistics and death rate which has been calculated by the facts, and then US statistics, which has been calculated by patients income. At the moment there is 125 cases of this virus in the US, and 9 deaths. Only 8 has recovered, and US is only country where amount of deaths is larger than amount of recovered people. Amount of cases has doubled from Monday, and amount of deaths has tripled. Let see where this is going ;D
How long does it take on average for someone to recover? What exactly does recover mean? Does the virus have a life cycle.
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What the govts are doing now will cause a GFC in Q2.
By Q3 i reckon they will open it all back up.
My opinion is April will be the tipping point when supply shortages starts to hit the shelves. Right now, freighters are not running out of China, i am getting freight on passenger airlines. Sea vessels are being docked.to increase pricing and cover.costs of landed fleets.
It's insane what they are doing right now putting up walls. The only outline short term (as in inside 6 months) will be to open the borders again. It's already with all of us. In a year we will have it anyway. Might aswell have a functioning economy who gets sick than mass unemployed tanked economy who gets sick.
Just wait and see, they'll open it back up......
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How long does it take on average for someone to recover? What exactly does recover mean? Does the virus have a life cycle.
It takes week or two, depending how serious it is.
Just reading comforting news about the matter: By the statistics so far, about 1 third of the population will get this infection. From that amount, 80% get the mild form of the virus. The rest 20% get more serious infection, and about 2- 2,5% of those will die. In USA it means that from the population of 330 million people 110 million get this virus, and 88 million people get the mild form. The rest 22 million get more serious symptoms, and from that bunch, 2,5%, meaning 550 000 people, will die..so as you see, it is just a piece of cake. Nothing to worry about, and Trump already promised that he will protect you all. You know, he knows more than doctors about this matter, just trust him.. ;D
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It takes week or two, depending how serious it is.
Just reading comforting news about the matter: By the statistics so far, about 1 third of the population will get this infection. From that amount, 80% get the mild form of the virus. The rest 20% get more serious infection, and about 2- 2,5% of those will die. In USA it means that from the population of 330 million people 110 million get this virus, and 88 million people get the mild form. The rest 22 million get more serious symptoms, and from that bunch, 2,5%, meaning 550 000 people, will die..so as you see, it is just a piece of cake. Nothing to worry about, and Trump already promised that he will protect you all. You know, he knows more than doctors about this matter, just trust him.. ;D
I think anyone who says they have accurate statistics about this is lying to you. We can't even test properly for this right now.
People need to be patient. Wait and see. Panicking and spreading bullshit doesn't do anyone any good.
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This thread is fucking retarded...
Gib you are connected on the inside with all the insiders, when will this thread end?
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This thread is fucking retarded...
Gib you are connected on the inside with all the insiders, when will this thread end?
Bankers. Hedge funds. Politicians. Deal makers. And then a little extra in terms of people on the ground in various key global locations.
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Bankers. Hedge funds. Politicians. Deal makers. And then a little extra in terms of people on the ground in various key global locations.
Lol. That's not what he asked.
Also nothing you've said couldn't be pieced together by someone who is capable of finding relevant information online and looking at it objectively and logically. To be honest that's actually something that's more impressive than someone claiming to be a big shot with people on the ground.
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Maybe go on Twitter and tell The World Health Organisation they are wrong too
https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1234872254883909642
The 3.4 % they reference was 0.1 % last week.
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https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-04-20-intl-hnk/index.html
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The 3.4 % they reference was 0.1 % last week.
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Yup.Thats the point, if even the WHO is buckling to the increasing numbers, the people who downplayed til now, you know it has merit.
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I can now confirm human to dog transmission is legit.
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I can now confirm human to dog transmission is legit.
Seen more cases since the first, doesn't surprise me.
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Which means dog to human can also occur.
Now please all as you start to hear more of this please make sure no one abuses or abandons dogs. As Nasser used to say, dogs are our angels. Please make sure we all make a stand and defend mans best friend.
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Yup.Thats the point, if even the WHO is buckling to the increasing numbers, the people who downplayed til now, you know it has merit.
I agree 100%.
I am reading everything they are making available, stocking up on gloves, hand sanitizer, Lysol disinfectant wipes and I bought those nylon face shields as opposed to just masks ( which I have as well.) I am not an alarmist, but I have a family to protect and need to stock up without alarming them.
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Finally AMZN will pay taxes....of the natural sort.
You liberals cheering for this to destroy the economy to spite Trump are spiting yourselves.
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Coronavirus infects Amazon employee in Seattle, company says
An Amazon employee in Seattle, Wash., has contracted the novel coronavirus — the first employee among its U.S. workforce to fall ill will COVID-19, the company said.
"We're supporting the affected employee who is in quarantine," an Amazon spokesperson told Fox News.
The e-commerce giant on Tuesday told employees in an email about the employee, who works at Amazon’s South Lake Union office complex in Seattle, where the company’s headquarters are located, Bloomberg reported. The employee left work on Feb. 25 “due to an illness” that the company said it was later informed was the coronavirus. All other employees who came into contact with the sick worker have since been notified.
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Bankers. Hedge funds. Politicians. Deal makers. And then a little extra in terms of people on the ground in various key global locations.
;D
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How long does it take on average for someone to recover? What exactly does recover mean? Does the virus have a life cycle.
You won't recover.
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How long does it take on average for someone to recover? What exactly does recover mean? Does the virus have a life cycle.
40-50 = Decent chance of recovery unless you have diabeetus, believe in Flat Earth and Nibiru
50+ and having fended off beggars of quatro pundo = High chance of recovery
60+ and having Gloryhole-experience = No chance of recovery
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The latest from my people in China is that they have discovered that covid19 has 2 mutations S-Cov and L-Cov.
S-Cov was the likely earlier strain as it's similar to bat Coronavirus and is the milder of the 2. L-Cov is more virulent, has a higher translatability and causes more harm to the respiratory system. It may be possible to become infected by one, recover and then become infected by the other. Further mutations are also possible.
L-Cov spread more rapidly in China despite it being newer, but since early January it's been on the decline.
So what should you take away from this. You can be the type who thinks more virulent version won't hang around for much longer, the majority might end up experiencing a milder version and in a few months time people will shrug their shoulders and wonder what all the fuss was about. Or you can Army of one it and sit in a dark room with a loaded revolver ready to blow your brains out at the first sign of you developing a cough.
Those slanty eye fooks are also trying to put the idea out that the Corona virus might not have actually originated in China. Yeah right.
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The latest from my people in China is that they have discovered that covid19 has 2 mutations S-Cov and L-Cov.
S-Cov was the likely earlier strain as it's similar to bat Coronavirus and is the milder of the 2. L-Cov is more virulent, has a higher translatability and causes more harm to the respiratory system. It may be possible to become infected by one, recover and then become infected by the other. Further mutations are also possible.
L-Cov spread more rapidly in China despite it being newer, but since early January it's been on the decline.
So what should you take away from this. You can be the type who thinks more virulent version won't hang around for much longer, the majority might end up experiencing a milder version and in a few months time people will shrug their shoulders and wonder what all the fuss was about. Or you can Army of one it and sit in a dark room with a loaded revolver ready to blow your brains out at the first sign of you developing a cough.
Those slanty eye fooks are also trying to put the idea out that the Corona virus might not have actually originated in China. Yeah right.
Or you can look at the stats, the studies from China, how contagious it is,the unprecedented response by governments worldwide, the lack of herd immunity which normally stops similar illnesses.The fact day by day temperature isn't seeming to halt the spread as much as we thought in hot countries.The fact the west are clueless and still won't stop traveling,partying etc unlike Wuhan where they were welded in their homes.Or the up to 21-28 day incubation period.9 days on surfaces..the 3.4% mortality rate now backed by WHO...you know..all the facts....
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Or you can look at the stats, the studies from China, how contagious it is,the unprecedented response by governments worldwide, the lack of herd immunity which normally stops similar illnesses.The fact day by day temperature isn't seeming to halt the spread as much as we thought in hot countries.The fact the west are clueless and still won't stop traveling,partying etc unlike Wuhan where they were welded in their homes.Or the up to 21-28 day incubation period.9 days on surfaces..the 3.4% mortality rate now backed by WHO...you know..all the facts....
You need to learn to look at facts objectively.
"The World Health Organization had said last week that the mortality rate of COVID-19 can differ, ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated."
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You need to learn to look at facts objectively.
"The World Health Organization had said last week that the mortality rate of COVID-19 can differ, ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated."
its alien concept to him....
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You need to learn to look at facts objectively.
"The World Health Organization had said last week that the mortality rate of COVID-19 can differ, ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated."
Doesn't matter, even if it is 1%, it's 10 times higher than flu deaths, and hospitals are already overrun.Theres a very obvious trend here.All the naysayers are feeling and living in the moment,rather than thinking ,and all the doomsdayers are looking at the facts and have an ability to project ahead.And also the new 3.4% figure was announced yesterday by WHO.Not sure why you are using last weeks Info.
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40 or more times deadlier than the seasonal flu, looking at the current figures, but keep in mind there are a lot of unreported cases.
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culture
https://www.facebook.com/shaheemrs/videos/697631024310756/
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Doesn't matter, even if it is 1%, it's 10 times higher than flu deaths, and hospitals are already overrun.Theres a very obvious trend here.All the naysayers are feeling and living in the moment,rather than thinking ,and all the doomsdayers are looking at the facts and have an ability to project ahead.And also the new 3.4% figure was announced yesterday by WHO.Not sure why you are using last weeks Info.
Let me help you out with the key points.
"The World Health Organization had said last week that the ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated."
Understand now.
Also I posted info even the WHO are yet to have access to. The virulent L-Cov strain that was responsible for the most deaths started declining in January before the Wuhan lockdown. It likely peaked during the cold months like most virulent viruses do. This is possibly the strain that was doing the rounds in Northern Italy where it was able to last out in the cold mountain air.
The milder S-Cov form seems to be more resistant to the warmer weather and will likely hang around for a while. But the death rate with that will drop significantly.
You keep potatoing though, it's good entertainment.
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culture
https://www.facebook.com/shaheemrs/videos/697631024310756/
That's just how they clean things in China
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Let me help you out with the key points.
"The World Health Organization had said last week that the ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated."
Understand now.
Also I posted info even the WHO are yet to have access to. The virulent L-Cov strain that was responsible for the most deaths started declining in January before the Wuhan lockdown. It likely peaked during the cold months like most virulent viruses do. This is possibly the strain that was doing the rounds in Northern Italy where it was able to last out in the cold mountain air.
The milder S-Cov form seems to be more resistant to the warmer weather and will likely hang around for a while. But the death rate with that will drop significantly.
You keep potatoing though, it's good entertainment.
Even at 1% hospitals wont be able to cope.Like I've been saying for about 20 pages now...
"Depending on the quality of the healthcare system where it's treated"
Doesn't matter if it's China,UK or USA , no treatment is no treatment.Once hospitals and emergency services are overrun watch that mortality rate shoot up.
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Even at 1% hospitals wont be able to cope.Like I've been saying for about 20 pages now...
"Depending on the quality of the healthcare system where it's treated"
Doesn't matter if it's China/UK or USA , no treatment is no treatment.Once hospitals and emergency services are overrun.
And like I said in my first post in this thread. Thank you, but goodbye and good riddance to that 1% who RIP. If it means the risk to myself is slightly elevated temporarily then it's a price worth paying.
In the long term it will benefit the majority.
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Finally AMZN will pay taxes....of the natural sort.
You liberals cheering for this to destroy the economy to spite Trump are spiting yourselves.
I seriously doubt anyone including 'liberals' is cheering for the coronavirus to destroy the economy. If you read Soulcrusher's posts, 99% of them support Trump solely because of the good economy. It is only natural to wonder if the primary reason people support Trump is the healthy economy, what happens to their support should the economy falter. It is possible Trump has too many eggs in one basket.
As a retired person, my income is directly affected by the state of the economy. I may not like Trump, but I'm such an idiot that I would 'cut off my nose to spite my face'.
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Even at 1% hospitals wont be able to cope.Like I've been saying for about 20 pages now...
"Depending on the quality of the healthcare system where it's treated"
Doesn't matter if it's China,UK or USA , no treatment is no treatment.Once hospitals and emergency services are overrun watch that mortality rate shoot up.
And if hospitals are not overrun? There are 31,845,260 745,957 staffed hospital beds in the U.S.
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And if hospitals are not overrun? There are 31,845,260 staffed hospital beds in the U.S.
Lol, where did you get that number from.There are that around many admissions, staffed beds is around 792,417.Please don't tell me you thought there was 1 bed for every 10 americans?
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They just reported the first death in California.
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Lol, where did you get that number from.There are that around many admissions, staffed beds is around 792,417.Please don't tell me you thought there was 1 bed for every 10 americans?
Sorry about that. I read the total from the wrong column in the chart. According to the information I found, there are 745,957 staffed beds. The 31,845,260 figure is the number of discharges.
https://www.ahd.com/state_statistics.html
A more current estimate (2020) shows there are a total of 924,107
staffed beds in all U.S. hospitals. This includes non-medical facilities.
https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals
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Sorry about that. I read the total from the wrong column in the chart. According to the information I found, there are 745,957 staffed beds. The 31,845,260 figure is the number of discharges.
https://www.ahd.com/state_statistics.html
A more current estimate (2020) shows there are a total of 924,107
staffed beds in all U.S. hospitals. This includes non-medical facilities.
https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals
Problem is, and without looking the number up, I'd imagine 70% plus of those are used at all times.
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They just reported the first death in California.
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At the moment there is 159 cases of covid-19 in US, 11 deaths and 8 recovered patients. For some reason there is lot of countries where has been like in Singapore 110 cases and 78 recovered, no deaths. It will be interesting to see when amount of recovered patients start it's rise by that ultimate and great health care system of yours. It should be skyrocketing in any minute now.. ;D
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Problem is, and without looking the number up, I'd imagine 70% plus of those are used at all times.
If you are saying statistics aren't necessarily accurate, you are right. Problem is statistics are really all we've got. It's not like you, me or anyone else has the resources to prove others' statistics right or wrong or gather our own unbiased statistics.
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At the moment there is 159 cases of covid-19 in US, 11 deaths and 8 recovered patients. For some reason there is lot of countries where has been like in Singapore 110 cases and 78 recovered, no deaths. It will be interesting to see when amount of recovered patients start it's rise by that ultimate and great health care system of yours. It should be skyrocketing in any minute now.. ;D
There is a crude ship being held off the coast of California. One male patient has died from the virus.
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They need to start mentioning the ages of the deaths. If everyone saw they were 80+ the social reaction would be different.
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First case in South Africa now.
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They need to start mentioning the ages of the deaths. If everyone saw they were 80+ the social reaction would be different.
Good point, however disclosing that information ( even without a name ) may constitute a violation of an individuals rights to privacy regarding their medical history.
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Good point, however disclosing that information ( even without a name ) may constitute a violation of an individuals rights to privacy regarding their medical history.
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they are hardly going to sue.
And giving away an age isnt anything that would constitute a breach of data protection, it doesnt identify an individual..
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Problem is, and without looking the number up, I'd imagine 70% plus of those are used at all times.
In America, the average total daily occupancy of all hospital beds is around 66%, give or take a percent -
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2017/089.pdf (last page).
The bigger problem is emergency care and ICU beds, particularity in urban areas. They are usually in the 70% +, range, but big city urban hospitals can see swells into the 90 percents at times.
https://www.pomsmeetings.org/confpapers/025/025-1782.pdf ( Bottom page 1, page 2 of that study, plus offhand conversations with hospital staff ).
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The plague.
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Making my last trip to the shops for awhile today. Seems early to pull back for my area, which is good. Still going to work but am often alone there.
No idea what 27 pages has concluded but believe that
- Most of us will get it, just like any flu going around.
- Most of us will be fine, just like always.
But nobody knows anything for certain. I'm a little skeezed out by government and WHO statements, which is more than just the media selling hype.
So have a couple months worth of most things. Water and gas set aside for very unlikely SHTF contingency, but it would require the fall of the government for things like that to disappear. Pretty hard to stockpile for every eventuality when you're a disorganized and busy fuckhead like myself, so am going to have to attend a public setting at some point or at least be around someone, even if times is bad. Fwiw I like the Sundstrom SR200 with their 510 filter. Their Sr100 is a good mask too for adults. Been using them for years. Tyvek suit and work over delicate disposable gloves complete the apocalypse ensemble.
The Aussies seem to believe that toilet paper and anti-bac hand sanitizer will save them. You can procure these nowhere at the moment lol. If you haven't stocked up, go right now. Shortages are going to be deadlier than the disease if there's panic buying and/or supply interruptions. There's no reason to spend the End Of Times in a catabolic state.
BB related: Upping calories and carbs. Supping C and multi, possibly add CoQ10 and echinacea.
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Trump is mentally retarded
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"Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor,"
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Trump is mentally retarded
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"Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor,"
You're being played for a fool. Read or listen (or both) to the interview. Again, context matters.
He also didn't tell people with COV-19 to "go to work."
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Making my last trip to the shops for awhile today. Seems early to pull back for my area, which is good. Still going to work but am often alone there.
No idea what 27 pages has concluded but believe that
- Most of us will get it, just like any flu going around.
- Most of us will be fine, just like always.
But nobody knows anything for certain. I'm a little skeezed out by government and WHO statements, which is more than just the media selling hype.
So have a couple months worth of most things. Water and gas set aside for very unlikely SHTF contingency, but it would require the fall of the government for things like that to disappear. Pretty hard to stockpile for every eventuality when you're a disorganized and busy fuckhead like myself, so am going to have to attend a public setting at some point or at least be around someone, even if times is bad. Fwiw I like the Sundstrom SR200 with their 510 filter. Their Sr100 is a good mask too for adults. Been using them for years. Tyvek suit and work over delicate disposable gloves complete the apocalypse ensemble.
The Aussies seem to believe that toilet paper and anti-bac hand sanitizer will save them. You can procure these nowhere at the moment lol. If you haven't stocked up, go right now. Shortages are going to be deadlier than the disease if there's panic buying and/or supply interruptions. There's no reason to spend the End Of Times in a catabolic state.
BB related: Upping calories and carbs. Supping C and multi, possibly add CoQ10 and echinacea.
Was at the store the other day to pick up a couple of things. The shelves were all but empty. People are in a panic. Hysteria has landed.
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You're being played for a fool. Read or listen (or both) to the interview. Again, context matters.
He also didn't tell people with COV-19 to "go to work."
I would listen to it is I could find it.
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Corona virus = bad rash or sun burn.
Laughable virus. Measles and Small Pox are laughing at Corona virus.
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Was at the store the other day to pick up a couple of things. The shelves were all but empty. People are in a panic. Hysteria has landed.
You in the USA? If so, East/West/Midwest etc?
In the midwest it seems all is well, I've stashed some goods and I'm armed. We shall see but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.
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Did we die yet ???
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You in the USA? If so, East/West/Midwest etc?
In the midwest it seems all is well, I've stashed some goods and I'm armed. We shall see but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.
Almost as far west as you can get on the mainland. I live in a suburb of Portland, OR. Last I heard there was only one know case here. Washington state is just across the Columbia river and they have like 158 cases with a couple of deaths. Maybe people worry that this is a little to close for comfort.
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Did we die yet ???
Not the last time I checked.
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Which means dog to human can also occur.
Now please all as you start to hear more of this please make sure no one abuses or abandons dogs. As Nasser used to say, dogs are our angels. Please make sure we all make a stand and defend mans best friend.
My sources tells me this is false.
It's impossible for it to pass directly between species like that. It's more likely the dog has a canine version of coronavirus.
I have other information from experts who keep the big players informed, stuff that has yet to be revealed to the public, but I'll keep them for another day.
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Was at the store the other day to pick up a couple of things. The shelves were all but empty. People are in a panic. Hysteria has landed.
I wouldn't be surprised if shortages, lack of med services for non-corona issues, and civil unrest kill more people than the bug.
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Was at the store the other day to pick up a couple of things. The shelves were all but empty. People are in a panic. Hysteria has landed.
Which is utter stupidity.
We have shortages of toilet paper (lol). We have some schools closed. We have some large offices closed..... aaaaand nothing has happened, nor will it for months.
Right now we face tens of thousands with toilet paper shortages..... 5 people with corona virus.
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Which is utter stupidity.
We have shortages of toilet paper (lol). We have some schools closed. We have some large offices closed..... aaaaand nothing has happened, nor will it for months.
Right now we face tens of thousands with toilet paper shortages..... 5 people with corona virus.
Wish we could trust the Chinese data. As it is, the Italian model is probably the best for mapping the bloom of asymptomatic spreaders after a handful of diagnoses.
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Wish we could trust the Chinese data. As it is, the Italian model is probably the best for mapping the bloom of asymptomatic spreaders after a handful of diagnoses.
South Korean data is the most accurate. Also there are at least 2 covid viruses of different virulence that have been identified. We do not know yet what Covid virus is where.
The good news is natural selection favours a milder strain.
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The chinks should be open to U.S. litigation. I haven't had time to study the capsid (the protein structure which needs to be compromised to attack the RNA) design but phuck me if this isn't a biological warfare weapon. infected individuals and family of the deceased should be entitled to no less than an eight figure settlement.
People I have on the ground in China tell me that some Chinese think it was the US deliberately spreading it in China. They can even trace it back to a summit near the fish market which is believed to be ground zero where there were US officials attending.
Both scenarios seem unlikely though.
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People I have on the ground in China tell me that some Chinese think it was the US deliberately spreading it in China. They can even trace it back to a summit near the fish market which is believed to be ground zero where there were US officials attending.
Both scenarios seem unlikely though.
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Did we die yet ???
Any minute now.....
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People I have on the ground in China tell me that some Chinese think it was the US deliberately spreading it in China. They can even trace it back to a summit near the fish market which is believed to be ground zero where there were US officials attending.
Both scenarios seem unlikely though.
Please keep us briefed on what is happening on the ground with your sources lol.... ::)
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The plague.
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LOL....your totally wrong^
More retarded "expert commentary" bullshit talk in this thread.
The capsid is the outer protein membrane of the virus, the capsid contains the viral rna (or dna depending on the virus). It doesn't need to be compromised nor does it attack the rna.
The capsid attaches to a host cell and the virion injects it's rna into the host cell (respiratory cell in this case) from there the rna replicates using host cell machinery, when the cells resources are exhausted many new viral particles are released as the host cell dies.
::) maybe i should have said nine figures and added cat photos instead, moron.
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Which is utter stupidity.
We have shortages of toilet paper (lol). We have some schools closed. We have some large offices closed..... aaaaand nothing has happened, nor will it for months.
Right now we face tens of thousands with toilet paper shortages..... 5 people with corona virus.
Yes, you are right. The tendency is to go all out when there is a threat. One school in my neighboring city of Lake Oswego, has been closed for a week because an employee tested positive for the coronavirus. Supposedly they've disinfected the entire building and it's contents (as if the is even possible). It was closed to appease the parents and other staff members. IMO.
Funny you should mention toilet paper, that was actually where I noticed the shelves were almost bare.
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People I have on the ground in China tell me that some Chinese think it was the US deliberately spreading it in China. They can even trace it back to a summit near the fish market which is believed to be ground zero where there were US officials attending.
Both scenarios seem unlikely though.
Some people need someone to blame. It's just crazy. Shit happens. Not everything is a conspiracy. There were viruses and plagues long before science had the ability to create them.
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Making my last trip to the shops for awhile today. Seems early to pull back for my area, which is good. Still going to work but am often alone there.
No idea what 27 pages has concluded but believe that
- Most of us will get it, just like any flu going around.
- Most of us will be fine, just like always.
But nobody knows anything for certain. I'm a little skeezed out by government and WHO statements, which is more than just the media selling hype.
So have a couple months worth of most things. Water and gas set aside for very unlikely SHTF contingency, but it would require the fall of the government for things like that to disappear. Pretty hard to stockpile for every eventuality when you're a disorganized and busy fuckhead like myself, so am going to have to attend a public setting at some point or at least be around someone, even if times is bad. Fwiw I like the Sundstrom SR200 with their 510 filter. Their Sr100 is a good mask too for adults. Been using them for years. Tyvek suit and work over delicate disposable gloves complete the apocalypse ensemble.
The Aussies seem to believe that toilet paper and anti-bac hand sanitizer will save them. You can procure these nowhere at the moment lol. If you haven't stocked up, go right now. Shortages are going to be deadlier than the disease if there's panic buying and/or supply interruptions. There's no reason to spend the End Of Times in a catabolic state.
BB related: Upping calories and carbs. Supping C and multi, possibly add CoQ10 and echinacea.
Carbs are worthless and in higher amounts cause more harm than good. If u want to boost your immune system, fast for 48-72 hrs every now and then. Also try intermittent fasting every day like 16 hours without eating and you only eat in the 8 hour window. 20/4 is even better but hard to maintain BB weight. The worst thing u can do when sick is stuff yourself with food, especially poor quality high carb food.
Regarding nutrients, get yourself some high quality red grass-fed meat and organs especially liver. Eat fish like sardines, mackerel and wild caught salmon. Get some canned cod liver.
Regarding vitamin C, make sure it doesn‘t come in the form of ascorbic acid. At least get some sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C.
Remember guys, when u get sick your body is better off without food for some time so it can focus on dealing with the issues rather than digesting food etc.
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Carbs are worthless and in higher amounts cause more harm than good. If u want to boost your immune system, fast for 48-72 hrs every now and then. Also try intermittent fasting every day like 16 hours without eating and you only eat in the 8 hour window. 20/4 is even better but hard to maintain BB weight. The worst thing u can do when sick is stuff yourself with food, especially poor quality high carb food.
Regarding nutrients, get yourself some high quality red grass-fed meat and organs especially liver. Eat fish like sardines, mackerel and wild caught salmon. Get some canned cod liver.
Regarding vitamin C, make sure it doesn‘t come in the form of ascorbic acid. At least get some sodium ascorbate form of vitamin C.
Remember guys, when u get sick your body is better off without food for some time so it can focus on dealing with the issues rather than digesting food etc.
And the source of your great wisdom is?
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Yes, you are right. The tendency is to go all out when there is a threat. One school in my neighboring city of Lake Oswego, has been closed for a week because an employee tested positive for the coronavirus. Supposedly they've disinfected the entire building and it's contents (as if the is even possible). It was closed to appease the parents and other staff members. IMO.
Funny you should mention toilet paper, that was actually where I noticed the shelves were almost bare.
Well this is with zero cases in the area. The problem i have is logically if you have zero and you close, then it needs to be indefinitely closed until it passes. If you close at zero, open and there is 10 cases then.you deserve to get sued into oblivion.
You shut down when you have no choice. It's too costly to shut early because once you take that moral stance, you cannot reopen to cause infections. You will be sued, period.
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wild caught salmon
There's no telling what they may do!!!
I'm with you on the fish. Am big on sardines and mackerel all the time. The no carbs and fasting periods thing not so much but I never really looked into it. What made you a believer for illness prevention?
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And the source of your great wisdom is?
All around you if you search the interwebz. Conventional medicine teaches u shit and „gave“ us the amount of chronic diseases u see today. Also look up „autophagy“.
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this thread is littered with expertise....
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All around you if you search the interwebz. Conventional medicine teaches u shit and „gave“ us the amount of chronic diseases u see today. Also look up „autophagy“.
Who could have known, that Getbig had so many world renowned Epidemiologists? ???
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Who could have known, that Getbig had so many world renowned Epidemiologists? ???
I was addressing nutrition
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I was addressing nutrition
My apologies.
Who could have known, that Getbig had so many world renowned Nutritional Epidemiologists? ???
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Who could have known, that Getbig had so many world renowned Epidemiologists? ???
You're welcome. I'll have more for you later today.
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You're welcome. I'll have more for you later today.
You seem to just be taking little known studies and articles that have yet to make mainstream media, mostly from Asia, and pasting them here.Nothing wrong with that as it's the way to stay ahead of the game on this subject, but it's all the same stuff I'm reading elsewhere word for word.
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You seem to just be taking little known studies and articles that have yet to make mainstream media, mostly from Asia, and pasting them here.Nothing wrong with that as it's the way to stay ahead of the game on this subject, but it's all the same stuff I'm reading elsewhere word for word.
Where do you think those studies came from? They were formulated by myself and my team of experts...
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Where do you think those studies came from? They were formulated by myself and my team of experts...
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All around you if you search the interwebz. Conventional medicine teaches u shit and „gave“ us the amount of chronic diseases u see today. Also look up „autophagy“.
True. The internet is full of crackpots with outrageous theories and conspiracies working to destroy life as we know it. And there's the profiteers seeking to make a fortune off 'snake oil' cures.
Misuse of antibiotics and antivirals may result in new stronger strains of these things which become increasing more difficult to fight off. The misuse is most often the fault of the patient and not the medical profession.
The concept of autophagy seems to make sense. If it is a natural way of ridding the body of damaged cells wouldn't it happen automatically? Maybe we humans are so out of touch with our bodies needs, we no longer respond to a natural inclination to fast when ill. You see a distinct loss of appetite in other animals who are sick.
How many of us have heard the phrase "feed a cold and starve a fever"? This is only partly true according to some medical professionals. Most of us aren’t exactly ravenous when we’re feeling under the weather. That’s because appetite is naturally suppressed when we’re sick so that energy can be directed toward the immune system rather than digestion.
This might explain why it generally isn't a good idea to eat immediately prior to exercising. It depletes our energy for having a good workout. I had this experience the other day when I ate two slices of pizza shortly before working out. I had almost no energy for the workout.
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Seasonal Flu kills 646,000 people a year worldwide. Corona is a new flu. The fear is not that it's going to kill you, it has a mortality rate right now about what the seasonal flu has, about 0.2%, but the overwhelming majority will not die. The seasonal flu kills a tiny percentage of people, for example elderly with weakened immune systems. Even though we can't imagine dying of seasonal flu, take a Nyquil, adding a NEW flu to the world could kill hundreds of thousands of people based on its mortality rate, which is why containment is the issue, not that it's going to kill you. But if you get Corona, 99.7% chance you'll get the sniffles and feel like shit. It's a worldwide issue of numbers and containment, the fear mongering press is selling fear so you're afraid to go outside.
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Seasonal Flu kills 646,000 people a year worldwide. Corona is a new flu. The fear is not that it's going to kill you, it has a mortality rate right now about what the seasonal flu has, about 0.2%, but the overwhelming majority will not die. The seasonal flu kills a tiny percentage of people, for example elderly with weakened immune systems. Even though we can't imagine dying of seasonal flu, take a Nyquil, adding a NEW flu to the world could kill hundreds of thousands of people based on its mortality rate, which is why containment is the issue, not that it's going to kill you. But if you get Corona, 99.7% chance you'll get the sniffles and feel like shit. It's a worldwide issue of numbers and containment, the fear mongering press is selling fear so you're afraid to go outside.
? It's mortality rate currently is above 4% using completed cases, either died or recovered.Ironically it's the first time in history where the press have actually downplayed something.Because they know there's a very real chance this could be a once in a lifetime level of devestation.
Also this guy:
"This is the most frightening disease I’ve ever encountered in my career, and that includes Ebola, it includes MERS, it includes SARS."
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Seasonal Flu kills 646,000 people a year worldwide. Corona is a new flu. The fear is not that it's going to kill you, it has a mortality rate right now about what the seasonal flu has, about 0.2%, but the overwhelming majority will not die. The seasonal flu kills a tiny percentage of people, for example elderly with weakened immune systems. Even though we can't imagine dying of seasonal flu, take a Nyquil, adding a NEW flu to the world could kill hundreds of thousands of people based on its mortality rate, which is why containment is the issue, not that it's going to kill you. But if you get Corona, 99.7% chance you'll get the sniffles and feel like shit. It's a worldwide issue of numbers and containment, the fear mongering press is selling fear so you're afraid to go outside.
Fucken moron - is that you Don?
3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the World Health Organization (WHO) as of March 3
In his opening remarks at the March 3 media briefing on Covid-19, WHO Director-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus stated:
“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.” [13]
Initial estimate was 2%
Initially, the World Health Organization (WHO) had mentioned 2% as a mortality rate estimate in a press conference on Wednesday, January 29 [1][2] and again on February 10. However, on January 29 WHO specified that this was a very early and provisional estimate that might have changed. Surveillance was increasing, within China but also globally, but at the time it was said that:
We don't know how many were infected ("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).
The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization [1][2].
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Fucken moron - is that you Don?
3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the World Health Organization (WHO) as of March 3
In his opening remarks at the March 3 media briefing on Covid-19, WHO Director-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus stated:
“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.” [13]
Numbers are political, but take your number of 3.4%. My point is the same, it's about containment, not freaking that you're going to die. It's horrifying that a million a year could die IF 3.4% is correct, but 96.6% of people will get the flu. 3% of people have weakened immune systems in general. My only point is that it's containment, you're not going to die to you and your fear mongering crowd. I'm not at all downplaying the worldwide significance.
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Numbers are political, but take your number of 3.4%. My point is the same, it's about containment, not freaking that you're going to die. It's horrifying that a million a year could die IF 3.4% is correct, but 96.6% of people will get the flu. 3% of people have weakened immune systems in general. My only point is that it's containment, you're not going to die to you and your fear mongering crowd. I'm not at all downplaying the worldwide significance.
What happens when hospitals are full, medicines have run out , and young kids or young adults need medicines to stay alive through conditions like diabetes, or need emergency surgery etc?at this rate you can expect UK/USA cases to be 10x+ in numbers within 10 days, 10 days after that I dont even want to imagine.The stress on health services will be immense.
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Numbers are political, but take your number of 3.4%. My point is the same, it's about containment, not freaking that you're going to die. It's horrifying that a million a year could die IF 3.4% is correct, but 96.6% of people will get the flu. 3% of people have weakened immune systems in general. My only point is that it's containment, you're not going to die to you and your fear mongering crowd. I'm not at all downplaying the worldwide significance.
Your only point is the one on top of your FUCKEN head.
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What happens when hospitals are full, medicines have run out , and young kids or young adults need medicines to stay alive through conditions like diabetes, or need emergency surgery etc?at this rate you can expect UK/USA cases to be 10x+ in numbers within 10 days, 10 days after that I dont even want to imagine.The stress on health services will be immense.
The US, Trump and co need to pull it's finger out or this will be remembered in the same way as Katrina for them.
UK will be fine by comparison. This will last for maybe 6 to 8 weeks tops, but just think this time next year their won't be a 3 weeks waiting time to get an appointment to see your GP. A necessary evil, but the herd needs thinning...
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? It's mortality rate currently is above 4% using completed cases, either died or recovered.Ironically it's the first time in history where the press have actually downplayed something.Because they know there's a very real chance this could be a once in a lifetime level of devestation.
Also this guy:
"This is the most frightening disease I’ve ever encountered in my career, and that includes Ebola, it includes MERS, it includes SARS."
So, who is this guy? Someone you ran into on the streets?
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The Chicken Little Virus (CLV) is spreading here. Buncha slack-jawed schmoemosexuals.
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So, who is this guy? Someone you ran into on the streets?
If you watched 15 seconds of the video you'd find out.
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197 dead in Italy
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The sky is falling!!
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The sky is falling!!
Asshole.
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The sky is falling!!
Yup. Some people have the CLV.
It's not as if this is THE most horrid virus ever and to be honest, I still hope it wipes out the poopulations of Communist China and the litter box of the muslime middle east.
What benefit some derive from stirring the shit about this sort of thing is beyond me but obviously not beneath them.
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Those muslime bitches are already covered up. WTF with the Michael Jackson mask? FTN.
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197 dead in Italy
They were probably going to die soon anyways. PIP (pose in pasta)
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Instead of a handshake I suggest that people all over the world greet eachother with the thumps up!
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Anyone know the deaths ages?
What % of 18-24, 25-34, 35-44, 45-54, 55-64, 65+ are the ones who died?
I can't find any data on ages..
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Anyone know the deaths ages?
What % of 18-24, 25-34, 35-44, 45-54, 55-64, 65+ are the ones who died?
I can't find any data on ages..
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Anyone know the deaths ages?
What % of 18-24, 25-34, 35-44, 45-54, 55-64, 65+ are the ones who died?
I can't find any data on ages..
See above. Although focussing on age might not be the most accurate way of looking at things. Deaths are mostly related to immunocompromised health conditions. Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, hypertension, liver disease etc. Things which are more common amongst the elderly.
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Smokers and fatties getting taken out. It's mostly people who brought on or exasperated their health conditions, lifestyle illnesses, abusers etc. It's just natural selection catching up with them. What's not to like?
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Smokers and fatties getting taken out. It's mostly people who brought on or exasperated their health conditions, lifestyle illnesses, abusers etc. It's just natural selection catching up with them. What's not to like?
Hope goatfuckers and those with "alternative" lifestyles get it too
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Whatabout bodybuilders? A lot of them are getting up their in age...
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Why is CNN reporting 400 confirmed cases
http://www.cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com)
But the WHO is at 213 and they updated at 4:30 CET
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd)
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Why is CNN reporting 400 confirmed cases
http://www.cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com)
But the WHO is at 213 and they updated at 4:30 CET
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd)
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Inevitably, there will be a lot of false or misrepresented information about the coronavirus. So much is unknown.
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The WHO lags behind sometimes.
The US has 340 (or 409 depending on if you count boat people and US citizens abroad).
This counter is pretty accurate, and based on state health departments and emergency services briefings -
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/ .
(down at the bottom you can break it in countries, and furthermore states / territories, etc..... ).
Their twitter also gives out various news reports on press conferences, lockdowns, etc..... -
https://twitter.com/BNODesk .
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This site crunches the numbers coming out of that BNO news source into various maps and things -
https://covid19info.live/ .
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another day, another govt. sh*tshow courtesy of the orange turd
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"perfect" - adjective used to describe the gullible nature of GOP voters
WASHINGTON — Friday evening found Vice President Pence in an uncommon and uncomfortable position: Having to downplay and contradict assertions made by his boss. It proved a delicate act for Pence, who has
become the face of the administration’s coronavirus response, and who has sought to project an aura of steely confidence.
Trump can sometimes frustrate those efforts, as he did during visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta on Friday afternoon.
Wearing a red “Keep America Great” baseball cap, the president used the occasion to offer his freewheeling thoughts on everything ranging from Fox News ratings to the educational pedigree of his uncle John Trump, who was a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor.
But there were also blatantly incorrect claims, too, as when Trump said that “anybody that needs a test gets a test” for coronavirus. In fact, the CDC has badly lagged in preparing a nationwide testing regime, and only a minuscule percentage of Americans can currently be tested. That percentage will grow in the coming days, but not nearly as quickly as public health experts believe is necessary to contain the disease, which has infected at least 280 people and killed 15 in the U.S..
Trump also said during his CDC tour that the tests are “all perfect,” comparing it to his “perfect” phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. That phone call served as the basis for the impeachment inquiry that culminated in Trump’s acquittal last month.
In fact, an initial CDC test was flawed, which delayed its implementation by about two weeks, during a critical period in February when the virus was spreading in Washington state and elsewhere.
Trump added that he would rather not allow infected Americans to disembark the Grand Princess cruise ship that has been floating off the coast of Northern California. “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship,” Trump complained as his secretary of Health and Human Services and the director of the CDC looked on.
The White House briefing of the coronavirus task force began almost as soon as Trump’s remarks in Atlanta ended, which all but assured that Pence — who Trump appointed to head the task force — would be forced to account for the president’s statements.
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thanks =-)
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another day, another govt. sh*tshow courtesy of the orange turd
"perfect" - adjective used to describe the gullible nature of GOP voters
WASHINGTON — Friday evening found Vice President Pence in an uncommon and uncomfortable position: Having to downplay and contradict assertions made by his boss. It proved a delicate act for Pence, who has
become the face of the administration’s coronavirus response, and who has sought to project an aura of steely confidence.
Trump can sometimes frustrate those efforts, as he did during visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta on Friday afternoon.
Wearing a red “Keep America Great” baseball cap, the president used the occasion to offer his freewheeling thoughts on everything ranging from Fox News ratings to the educational pedigree of his uncle John Trump, who was a Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor.
But there were also blatantly incorrect claims, too, as when Trump said that “anybody that needs a test gets a test” for coronavirus. In fact, the CDC has badly lagged in preparing a nationwide testing regime, and only a minuscule percentage of Americans can currently be tested. That percentage will grow in the coming days, but not nearly as quickly as public health experts believe is necessary to contain the disease, which has infected at least 280 people and killed 15 in the U.S..
Trump also said during his CDC tour that the tests are “all perfect,” comparing it to his “perfect” phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. That phone call served as the basis for the impeachment inquiry that culminated in Trump’s acquittal last month.
In fact, an initial CDC test was flawed, which delayed its implementation by about two weeks, during a critical period in February when the virus was spreading in Washington state and elsewhere.
Trump added that he would rather not allow infected Americans to disembark the Grand Princess cruise ship that has been floating off the coast of Northern California. “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship,” Trump complained as his secretary of Health and Human Services and the director of the CDC looked on.
The White House briefing of the coronavirus task force began almost as soon as Trump’s remarks in Atlanta ended, which all but assured that Pence — who Trump appointed to head the task force — would be forced to account for the president’s statements.
Seriously? That's what Trump said? Who gives a shit what he needs. This is not about him. Potentially everyone could be affected by the coronavirus. It's what we the people need that he should be thinking about, including those aboard the Grand Princess.
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Trump lie #14,532
“Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.”
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Note - the orange turd is obese and ugly
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First two deaths in Florida-
- Italy's prime minister has said at least 16 million people are now in mandatory quarantine in Lombardy region and also in 14 provinces.
The lock-down will last until early April.
The dramatic escalation in the country's efforts to contain the new coronavirus will close gyms, pools, museums and ski resorts.
Italy is Europe's worst-hit country and reported a steep rise in virus infections on Saturday.
The new measures, which also apply to financial centre Milan and tourist hotspot Venice will last until 3 April.
The death toll in Italy has passed 230, with officials reporting more than 50 deaths in 24 hours. The number of confirmed cases jumped by more than 1,200 to 5,883 on Saturday.
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Trump lie #14,532
“Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.”
(https://media.wired.com/photos/5e630a597ae91d000803583c/master/pass/Science_trump_AP_20067039811198.jpg)
Note - the orange turd is obese and ugly
Note: Looking forward to you going the way of the Dodo. Consider your dust shaken, not stirred. I hope it takes you, Straw and all the other cucks here.
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The sky is falling!!
You ain't fooling me with this Fonzie shit. I know you're prepped. Pshit, you're probably one of those second level guys who keeps a rural bunker stocked with carbon filters and multiple backup gen 3 tubes. Drop the camo tho. It's the wrong time to advertise.
close...pools
Lol, pool's closed.
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197 dead in Italy
Facts about Italy: over dozen of clothing factories around Milan, they employ Chinese workers as a cheap labour,
some places have 50 Chinese, others to 400.They work & live together !.
So, guess who introduced this flu to Milan/Lombardi !. ;)
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First two deaths in Florida-
- Italy's prime minister has said at least 16 million people are now in mandatory quarantine in Lombardy region and also in 14 provinces.
The lock-down will last until early April.
The dramatic escalation in the country's efforts to contain the new coronavirus will close gyms, pools, museums and ski resorts.
Italy is Europe's worst-hit country and reported a steep rise in virus infections on Saturday.
The new measures, which also apply to financial centre Milan and tourist hotspot Venice will last until 3 April.
The death toll in Italy has passed 230, with officials reporting more than 50 deaths in 24 hours. The number of confirmed cases jumped by more than 1,200 to 5,883 on Saturday.
J
And US is gaining speed and get closer to Italy's statistics day after day. At the Sunday morning there is 433 cases of covid-19, 17 deaths and 8 recovered. There is no need to be alarmed about those numbers, it doesn't mean nothing that there is twice as much dead people than recovered people in the US, as only country on this planet ;D
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Trump lie #14,532
“Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.”
(https://media.wired.com/photos/5e630a597ae91d000803583c/master/pass/Science_trump_AP_20067039811198.jpg)
Note - the orange turd is obese and ugly
The expressions on the two men's faces standing on each side of Trump is very telling, specially the fellow on the right. His is like a combination of disgust and disbelief. The fellow on the left has the look of absolute incredulity.
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And US is gaining speed and get closer to Italy's statistics day after day. At the Sunday morning there is 433 cases of covid-19, 17 deaths and 8 recovered. There is no need to be alarmed about those numbers, it doesn't mean nothing that there is twice as much dead people than recovered people in the US, as only country on this planet ;D
They don't tell about nationalities of those dead in Italy ?.
On every AC Milan & Inter football match you could see 100's of Chinese fans mix with 1000's of local supporters !.
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Facts about Italy: over dozen of clothing factories around Milan, they employ Chinese workers as a cheap labour,
some places have 50 Chinese, others to 400.They work & live together !.
So, guess who introduced this flu to Milan/Lombardi !. ;)
Just because the outbreak seems to have originated in China, does not signify that it is a Chinese based virus. If that were the case Chinese folks would exclusively have it. Unless some of those Chinese workers in the garment factories very recently either immigrated from or returned after a visit to China the likelihood they have anything to do with the alarmingly expeditious spread of the coronavirus in Italy is merely coincidental. Whatever connection there may be between the number of cases in each location has not yet been established.
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And US is gaining speed and get closer to Italy's statistics day after day. At the Sunday morning there is 433 cases of covid-19, 17 deaths and 8 recovered. There is no need to be alarmed about those numbers, it doesn't mean nothing that there is twice as much dead people than recovered people in the US, as only country on this planet ;D
There have been 16 deaths from the coronavirus in Washington state. Fourteen are associated with Life Care Center In Kirkland. It is a senior assisted living facility. Elderly people have so far been the most severely impacted with critical cases of the coronavirus and with the highest percentage of deaths.
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Just because the outbreak seems to have originated in China, does not signify that it is a Chinese based virus. If that were the case Chinese folks would exclusively have it. Unless some of those Chinese workers in the garment factories very recently either immigrated from or returned after a visit to China the likelihood they have anything to do with the alarmingly expeditious spread of the coronavirus in Italy is merely coincidental. Whatever connection there may be between the number of cases in each location has not yet been established.
The disease originates from China, from Wuhan. This indicates it is a 'China based virus.'
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The disease originates from China, from Wuhan. This indicates it is a 'China based virus.'
Yes well, I may have worded my post badly. The point is that it would be a mistake to think that just because someone is Chinese they are spreading the virus. Since anyone can get the virus, it should follow that anyone can spread it too. It is of course possible that someone who came from China or someone who traveled to China and back brought the virus with them. Since Italian clothing manufacturer workers make "sweatshop wages" it is not likely a lot of them can afford to vacation in China. One possibility is that some Chinese folks who recently came to Italy to work, were already sick with the virus.
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Yes well, I may have worded my post badly. The point is that it would be a mistake to think that just because someone is Chinese they are spreading the virus. Since anyone can get the virus, it should follow that anyone can spread it too. It is of course possible that someone who came from China or someone who traveled to China and back brought the virus with them. Since Italian clothing manufacturer workers make "sweatshop wages" it is not likely a lot of them can afford to vacation in China. One possibility is that some Chinese folks who recently came to Italy to work, were already sick with the virus.
A lot of those 'sweatshop' factories use Chinese workers, often illegally.
Especially those producing counterfeit clothing, such as in Naples.
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A lot of those 'sweatshop' factories use Chinese workers, often illegally.
Especially those producing counterfeit clothing, such as in Naples.
Yes this is likely true. However, only if those workers came to Italy fairly recently and already infected with the coronavirus, would their being Chinese have anything to do with the outbreak in Italy. The main point is it would be a mistake and grossly misleading to suggest only Chinese people spread the virus.
Every virus has an origin. A point zero, if you will. We often never really know what that point was or is.
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Facts about Italy: over dozen of clothing factories around Milan, they employ Chinese workers as a cheap labour,
some places have 50 Chinese, others to 400.They work & live together !.
So, guess who introduced this flu to Milan/Lombardi !. ;)
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Can you breakdown this guy's thoughts?His call on Italy 3 weeks before it even happened was way too accurate for him not to be telling the truth.
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What exactly do bats in Brazil have anything to do with me being able to go shopping for food at my grocery store?
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Italy has placed up to 16 million people under quarantine as it battles to contain the spread of coronavirus.
Anyone living in Lombardy and 14 other central and northern provinces will need special permission to travel. Milan and Venice are both affected.
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte also announced the closure of schools, gyms, museums, nightclubs and other venues across the whole country.
The measures, the most radical taken outside China, will last until 3 April.
Italy has seen the largest number of coronavirus infections in Europe, with the number of confirmed cases jumping by more than 1,200 to 5,883 on Saturday.
The strict new quarantine measures affect a quarter of the Italian population and centre on the rich northern part of the country that powers its economy.
The death toll in Italy has passed 230, with officials reporting more than 36 deaths in 24 hours.
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This is imposing.
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You ain't fooling me with this Fonzie shit. I know you're prepped. Pshit, you're probably one of those second level guys who keeps a rural bunker stocked with carbon filters and multiple backup gen 3 tubes. Drop the camo tho. It's the wrong time to advertise.
Lol, pool's closed.
We don't discuss evac plans on the internets. :) Everyone has camo, means nothing these days. Especially with all the yuppies buying clothes at Bass Pro. ::)
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We don't discuss evac plans on the internets. :) Everyone has camo, means nothing these days. Especially with all the yuppies buying clothes at Bass Pro. ::)
More Ass Pro really. ;D
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More Ass Pro really. ;D
All I want to do is go in and get some lead weights, roboworms and a couple of Kastmasters and it's filled with pretty boy bitches and their overscented wives looking for beef jerky and camouflaged crocs.
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All I want to do is go in and get some lead weights, roboworms and a couple of Kastmasters and it's filled with pretty boy bitches and their overscented wives looking for beef jerky and camouflaged crocs.
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All I want to do is go in and get some lead weights, roboworms and a couple of Kastmasters and it's filled with pretty boy bitches and their overscented wives looking for beef jerky and camouflaged crocs.
I understand that. I don't hunt or fish. I'm pretty much the guy you bring along because you can't outrun a bear but you can outrun me. ;D
I can't shoot a gun for shit. One of my brothers is retired LEO and he just accepts that his bigger brother while very conservative, just can't man-up when it comes to like most guys can. I can't even run away, LOL!
I've been to a Bass Pro and a Cabela's one time each but that was with friends that bow hunt. They acted like they didn't know me. ;D
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Stock up on non-perishables, tp, medical stuff/bandages/anti-septic etc, water all that. Own a firearm and be smart.
Don't succumb to media driven panic, they are trying to make you lose your shit and are praying you get infected and die. Anything that can drive a panic and hurt the current President and Admin will be deployed. If you aren't 60+ years old with comorbidities you'll (likely) be okay. Wash hands, clean your house, if you have ticket to a concert in a place that has a ton of cases...........DON'T GO. Use your head.
Spend 200 bucks today, tie up some loose ends and you're ahead of the game.
There you go.
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Stock up on non-perishables, tp, medical stuff/bandages/anti-septic etc, water all that. Own a firearm and be smart.
Don't succumb to media driven panic, they are trying to make you lose your shit and are praying you get infected and die. Anything that can drive a panic and hurt the current President and Admin will be deployed. If you aren't 60+ years old with comorbidities you'll (likely) be okay. Wash hands, clean your house, if you have ticket to a concert in a place that has a ton of cases...........DON'T GO. Use your head.
Spend 200 bucks today, tie up some loose ends and you're ahead of the game.
There you go.
Oh great...I'm 60+ with a physical handicap to go along with being a mental midget. ;D That's two strikes. I'm not looking for a third. ;D ;D
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Stock up on non-perishables, tp, medical stuff/bandages/anti-septic etc, water all that. Own a firearm and be smart.
Don't succumb to media driven panic, they are trying to make you lose your shit and are praying you get infected and die. Anything that can drive a panic and hurt the current President and Admin will be deployed. If you aren't 60+ years old with comorbidities you'll (likely) be okay. Wash hands, clean your house, if you have ticket to a concert in a place that has a ton of cases...........DON'T GO. Use your head.
Spend 200 bucks today, tie up some loose ends and you're ahead of the game.
There you go.
It is a presidential election year after all.
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I'm moving in with Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO.
We are going to call my favorite witch over, Queen Vissy, and he is going to cast a spell to eradicate the Coronavirus.
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I'm moving in with Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO.
We are going to call my favorite witch over, Queen Vissy, and he is going to cast a spell to eradicate the Coronavirus.
Vissy can keep his eyes on two things at once, already ahead of the game
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I'm moving in with Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO.
We are going to call my favorite witch over, Queen Vissy, and he is going to cast a spell to eradicate the Coronavirus.
You need vissy to start brewing some high alcohol content moonshine in his cauldron. Drinking it has been working wonders at killing the coronavirus for the Iranians.
It's also killing them too, but that's neither here nor there.
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A lot of those 'sweatshop' factories use Chinese workers, often illegally.
Especially those producing counterfeit clothing, such as in Naples.
So many 'hard working Afro refugees' in Italy & they need to import Chinese workers !.
OBW, Chinese need Italian visa ;).
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Hope goatfuckers and those with "alternative" lifestyles get it too
They can't survive for too long without sweets, dry dates/figs :D
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So many 'hard working Afro refugees' in Italy & they need to import Chinese workers !.
OBW, Chinese need Italian visa ;).
Employers are given quotas and they get EU subsidies by bringing in foreign workers like that.
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You need vissy to start brewing some high alcohol content moonshine in his cauldron. Drinking it has been working wonders at killing the coronavirus for the Iranians.
It's also killing them too, but that's neither here nor there.
Gee, Allah is alcoholic too :D , good news !.
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Just flu
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Coronascrewed - We are all virus - discuss
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this looks like an extremely fat man wore a rubber mask to impersonate the orange turd
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The sign of a great leader in times of crisis
"President swayed by flattery, personal appeals
Trump’s unpredictable demands and attention to public statements — and his own susceptibility to flattery — have created an administration where top officials feel constantly at siege, worried that the next presidential tweet will decide their professional future, and panicked that they need to regularly impress him."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/trump-coronavirus-management-style-123465
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how many so called flu infected death do you think died of coronavirus in US because of no testing ?
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how many so called flu infected death do you think died of coronavirus in US because of no testing ?
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this looks like an extremely fat man wore a rubber mask to impersonate the orange turd
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The sign of a great leader in times of crisis
"President swayed by flattery, personal appeals
Trump’s unpredictable demands and attention to public statements — and his own susceptibility to flattery — have created an administration where top officials feel constantly at siege, worried that the next presidential tweet will decide their professional future, and panicked that they need to regularly impress him."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/trump-coronavirus-management-style-123465
Do you ever get tired of being played for the fool?
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"Who would have thought health care could be so hard?" - epic genius
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/for-trump-coronavirus-proves-to-be-an-enemy-he-cant-tweet-away/ar-BB10V9en
another orange turd with a rubber mask
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“Who would have thought?” he asked during a visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the nerve center for the government’s response to the outbreak. “Who would have thought we would even be having the subject?”
Actually, quite a few people would have thought, and did — including the officials in his own White House who were in charge of preparing for just such a pandemic only to have their office shut down in a reorganization in 2018. “The threat of pandemic flu is the No. 1 health security concern,” one of the officials said the day before that happened two years ago. “Are we ready to respond? I fear the answer is no.”
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For a president who lives in the moment, rarely planning too far ahead, the coronavirus has proved to be a leadership challenge he was not prepared for either. The outbreak that has rattled the nation does not respond to Mr. Trump’s favorite instruments of power: It cannot be cowed by Twitter posts, it cannot be shot down by drones, it cannot be overcome by party solidarity, it cannot be overpowered by campaign rally chants.
Mr. Trump, who is at his strongest politically when he has a human enemy to attack, has seemed less certain of how to take on an invisible killer. The role of calming natural leader is not one that has come easily as he struggles to find the balance between public reassurance and Panglossian dismissiveness. He has predicted that the virus will “miraculously” disappear on its own with warmer weather, suggested a vaccine will be available soon and insisted anyone who wants to be tested can be — all overstated or inaccurate.
He has expressed an astonishing lack of knowledge while at the same time claiming to be a medical savant. He has treated the crisis as a partisan battle, wearing his red Keep America Great campaign cap to the C.D.C. and calling the governor presiding over the state with the highest death toll a “snake.” He even admitted that he wanted to leave passengers stranded on a cruise ship rather than see statistics for the number of cases on American soil go up because it would look bad.
“If we really want to talk about what is going to potentially create panic in this country, it’s an administration that’s just not being straight with the American public about the extent of this epidemic and the real-life consequences that could be put upon Americans,” Senator Christopher S. Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut, said Sunday on “Face the Nation” on CBS.
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Dr. Jonathan S. Reiner, a prominent cardiologist who treated former Vice President Dick Cheney and wrote a book with him, said he was convinced that the Trump administration failed to move more quickly to test for the virus after it emerged in China because the White House did not want to admit the scope of the threat.
“When the story is finally written,” he said on Sunday, “we’ll come to understand that tens of thousands of lives were placed at risk because of a political decision made by the president.”
Mr. Trump, who was spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, rejected the criticism on Sunday, pointing to the travel restrictions he imposed early on China, later adding limits or warnings to other affected places like Iran and parts of South Korea and Italy.
“We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus,” he wrote on Twitter moments after arriving at his golf club in West Palm Beach, where he played with several members of the World Series champion Washington Nationals. “We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!”
After initially brushing off warnings by his health secretary as “alarmist,” Mr. Trump in the last two weeks has taken a more assertive public role on the coronavirus, assigning Vice President Mike Pence to lead the government efforts and making multiple appearances to signal that he takes the threat seriously.
But he has also taken a business-as-usual approach to the rest of his schedule, refusing to cancel campaign rallies, fund-raisers or social events even as other large gatherings of Americans are scrubbed. Asked by a reporter on Saturday night if he was worried that infections were getting closer to the White House, Mr. Trump said, “No, I’m not concerned at all.”
The president then went inside Mar-a-Lago to host a lavish birthday party for the former Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle, who is dating Donald Trump Jr. and turns 51 on Monday, a preview perhaps of the celebration that may be held next month when Melania Trump turns 50. Among those spotted at the revelry were boldface names from Mr. Trump’s circle, including Mr. Pence, Lindsey Graham, Rudolph W. Giuliani, Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz.
Mr. Trump happily introduced his visitor, President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil, to Mr. Carlson and other guests in a video shared on social media, boasting that he “gave him a good gift” by not imposing tariffs on Brazil and “that made him much more popular.” Mr. Bolsonaro laughed and said, “Sí.” A smiling Mr. Pence turned to the camera and playfully repeated, “Sí.”
The first lady did not make the trip to Florida, but she faced a fiddling-while-Rome-burns blowback of her own over the weekend after posting online photographs of herself in a hard hat overseeing the privately financed construction of a new tennis pavilion at the White House.
“I encourage everyone who chooses to be negative & question my work at the @WhiteHouse to take time and contribute something good & productive in their own communities,” she wrote on Twitter on Saturday, adding her anti-bullying slogan, “#BeBest.”
By the president’s own account, the coronavirus has been an education for him. He has acknowledged that “I didn’t know people died from the flu” — tens of thousands, in fact, each year in the United States — even though, as The Washington Post pointed out, his own grandfather died of influenza during the 1918 epidemic.
But he has credited himself with instinctive understanding of the science. “I like this stuff. I really get it,” he said at the C.D.C. on Friday. “People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
Mr. Trump rejected criticism of the slow distribution of test kits, framing it in terms evoking his battle against impeachment. “The tests are all perfect,” he told reporters, “like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect, right?” — a reference to the rough transcript of his telephone call with Ukraine’s president that led to his own impeachment for abuse of power.
The president’s less-than-perfect pronouncements, however, left public health officials straining to reconcile them on the Sunday talk shows. Asked on CNN’s “State of the Union” about a White House aide’s assertion that the coronavirus had been “contained,” Dr. Jerome M. Adams, the surgeon general, said: “Well, this is a novel virus. It’s a new situation. And the messaging, quite frankly, is hard.”
Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, also appeared to walk back the president’s claim that “anyone who wants a test can get a test,” saying on “Fox News Sunday” that it would actually be up to a doctor.
Mr. Trump has become such a polarizing figure that even when he is not necessarily wrong, many do not trust him. On Sean Hannity’s Fox News show last week, he called the World Health Organization’s estimated fatality rate of 3.4 percent “a false number,” saying “my hunch” was that it would be under 1 percent. It sounded as if he were substituting his uneducated “hunch” for the judgment of professionals.
But in fact, he was reflecting what he had been told by health experts, including Dr. Fauci and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the C.D.C. director, who have concluded that once the full scope of unreported infections is known, the number of deaths will most likely represent a smaller share, possibly “considerably less than” 1 percent. The W.H.O. has also said the rate may fall.
Still, at his appearance at the C.D.C., Mr. Trump had no explanation for why his White House shut down the Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense established at the National Security Council in 2016 by President Barack Obama after the 2014 Ebola outbreak, stammering to suggest the coronavirus had been a surprise.
“Well, I just don’t think — I just don’t think that somebody is going to — without seeing something, like we saw something happening in China,” Mr. Trump said. “As soon as they saw that happening, they essentially — not from the White House. I mean, you know, we don’t need a lab in the White House. But they saw something happening.”
Elizabeth Cameron set up the global health security directorate at the White House for Mr. Obama before turning it over to Rear Adm. R. Timothy Ziemer, who ran it for Mr. Trump until May 2018, when he was pushed out and the directorate folded into other parts of the National Security Council. Had it still been around, it would have been charged with preparing for exactly the situation now facing the country.
“I think it would have made a difference,” Ms. Cameron said on Sunday. “Monitoring and preparing for every eventuality and having a person and a directorate accountable for that is really important and could have been important in this case.”
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Just flu
Just flu
Influenza has already taken the lives of 10,000 Americans this season, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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Just flu
wooooshhh
Here comes the global depression...
Hope you prepped for it
https://finance.yahoo.com/guy-221631295.html
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Currencies and markets heavily down today.
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I understand that. I don't hunt or fish. I'm pretty much the guy you bring along because you can't outrun a bear but you can outrun me. ;D
I can't shoot a gun for shit. One of my brothers is retired LEO and he just accepts that his bigger brother while very conservative, just can't man-up when it comes to like most guys can. I can't even run away, LOL!
I've been to a Bass Pro and a Cabela's one time each but that was with friends that bow hunt. They acted like they didn't know me. ;D
So you're basically a little child? How does feel?
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So you're basically a little child? How does feel?
How does feel
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We've had a lot of viral clips in the UK of people fighting over toilet paper in the supermarkets.
The morons didn't think it through, if you're stuck in your house on rations, you'd barely be shitting at all.
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We've had a lot of viral clips in the UK of people fighting over toilet paper in the supermarkets.
The morons didn't think it through, if you're stuck in your house on rations, you'd barely be shitting at all.
All out brawls will be happening in a few weeks for certain items, like I said 2 weeks ago.Its already happening elswhere.Its all the knock on effects you want to fear most, not the virus.
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?view=detail&mid=60AC23E15225D7B06AA860AC23E15225D7B06AA8&shtp=GetUrl&shid=724b1f73-01f5-4ee8-94fa-f7beb63c9fa8&shtk=Q29yb25hdmlydXMgcGF0aWVudCBmcm9tIERpYW1vbmQgUHJpbmNlc3MgZXhwbGFpbnMgd2hhdCB0aGUgaWxsbmVzcyBmZWVscyBsaWtl&shdk=Q2FybCBHb2xkbWFuIHNoYXJlcyB3aGF0IGl0J3MgYmVlbiBsaWtlIHRvIGJlIGRpYWdub3NlZCB3aXRoIGNvcm9uYXZpcnVzIHdoaWxlIGFib2FyZCB0aGUgRGlhbW9uZCBQcmluY2VzcyBjcnVpc2Ugc2hpcCBhbmQgbGlmZSBpbiBxdWFyYW50aW5lIHNpbmNlLg%3D%3D&shhk=qfXfaF%2Be3qap3uC8ZKmb%2BjUXewRy%2F%2FnMXrlNrWIqJ6Y%3D&form=VDSHOT&shth=OSH.u4ymO4H%252Fdf%252BV2rCRmOV61A
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This is getting good
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Anarchy is about to break out in parts of Italy, and Italy is usually at the top of the list for highest iq in Europe, higher than USA even.
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All out brawls will be happening in a few weeks for certain items, like I said 2 weeks ago.Its already happening elswhere.Its all the knock on effects you want to fear most, not the virus.
I bet gib invested in toilet paper companies in anticipation of this ;D
Him and his shady somalian bitcoin whale gang are the puppetmasters of this global pandemonium.
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Just flu, bro.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236095180459003909.html?fbclid=IwAR0j5AHR_dDvAYmDZgSMkknUlht1Q-_reU_7WsTEobxte0AkuNFz39hmo6o
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This is the biggest overreaction I've seen in my 37 years on this planet.
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Just flu, bro.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236095180459003909.html?fbclid=IwAR0j5AHR_dDvAYmDZgSMkknUlht1Q-_reU_7WsTEobxte0AkuNFz39hmo6o
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This is the biggest overreaction I've seen in my 37 years on this planet.
You really think world governments would be quarantining tens of millions of people if they didn't have to and didn't think it was serious?Think about it, is it more likely they are right and you are wrong or the reverse?You only think it's an overreaction because it hasn't arrived on your doorstep yet.Lets see what you are saying within 6 weeks.
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This is the biggest overreaction I've seen in my 37 years on this planet.
I think it'll be a bad flu that kills mostly the elderly but I don't know that for certain. So I'm getting my shit together. There's no real downside to doing that.
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I think it'll be a bad flu that kills mostly the elderly but I don't know that for certain. So I'm getting my shit together. There's no real downside to doing that.
again, society breakdown is what you want to fear.
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Wow
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You really think world governments would be quarantining tens of millions of people if they didn't have to and didn't think it was serious?Think about it, is it more likely they are right and you are wrong or the reverse?You only think it's an overreaction because it hasn't arrived on your doorstep yet.Lets see what you are saying within 6 weeks.
It's an overreaction because 600K people died on the swine flu worldwide 10 years ago and the panic wasn't 10% of this. 60 million Americans got swine flu. This is a complete overreaction. Hourly updates, the media, people like yourself. Just terrible.
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Lol wow. How do people no realize there is a global slowdown in commerce. The stock market is literally a reflection of consumer confidence and spending. Does army of one soudn confident and hopeful for his future? So confident he’s gonna spend more money this year than last? Or maybe the same? Or does he sound a lil scared like it might be a rainy week and we can go outside so maybe we should stay inside and not spend money.... and the market will do this until the virus is gone. Sorry for the bad news but someone has to inform people that it is impossible to be sunny all the time and sometimes it rains for months.
Now as far as health wise goes it’s a flu maybe bad maybe normal. The older you are the less STRENGTH your immune system has and the more medical complications you have diabetes hear disease kidney disease high blood pressure and all the other fun ones you take pills and do nothing healthy about yeah you run a risk to. So I’m yeah take care of your health as much as you take care of your pecs and biceps.
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It's an overreaction because 600K people died on the swine flu worldwide 10 years ago and the panic wasn't 10% of this. 60 million Americans got swine flu. This is a complete overreaction. Hourly updates, the media, people like yourself. Just terrible.
Swine flus mortality rate was 0.02%, corona is currently at about 4%, while being 4 times + more infectious.I feel sorry for you if you do not have the foresight to see where this could head.
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Swine flus mortality rate was 0.02%, corona is currently at about 4%, while being 4 times + more infectious.I feel sorry for you if you do not have the foresight to see where this could head.
4% of all infected?
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Swine flus mortality rate was 0.02%, corona is currently at about 4%, while being 4 times + more infectious.I feel sorry for you if you do not have the foresight to see where this could head.
Yeah 4 out of 100 people will die. What percent of 100 people do you think are 80 and older or 5 and younger?
And this is people infected unfortunately once it hits a nursing home or nursing home worker it spreads like fire. Those people immune system is too WEAK to fight the virus even with hospitalization!
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Yeah 4 out of 100 people will die. What percent of 100 people do you think are 80 and older or 5 and younger?
And this is people infected unfortunately once it hits a nursing home or nursing home worker it spreads like fire. Those people immune system is too WEAK to fight the virus even with hospitalization!
The real problem is once hospitals are full.In that case nearly all the 15% of infected who need oxygen, respirators etc will die.
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Swine flus mortality rate was 0.02%, corona is currently at about 4%, while being 4 times + more infectious.I feel sorry for you if you do not have the foresight to see where this could head.
4%? Not a fucking chance it's 4%
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4% of all infected?
Four percent of people who test positive. Many people who have coronavirus will have mild symptoms and never get tested or go to a hospital. The death rate in South Korea is 0.7% because people with mild symptoms are testing themselves as they have drivethru testing.
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The real problem is once hospitals are full.In that case nearly all the 15% of infected who need oxygen, respirators etc will die.
Even worse are the moron sheep like army of one. I understand it’s great having them in this country cause the more morons the easier it is to get rich off them but. These same morons are gonna be some 30 year old millenial bitch that needs their mom and dad and they’re gonna have a cough and run to the hospital which is gonna fuck all the normal people who get injured. Waiting rooms will be full of half sick people and half not that sick morons who are fear loving goons. Which again is good for getting rich off someone else.
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4%? Not a fucking chance it's 4%
Have you actually looked at the stats?why argue when you haven't even educated yourself.
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Four percent of people who test positive. Many people who have coronavirus will have mild symptoms and never get tested or go to a hospital. The death rate in South Korea is 0.7% because people with mild symptoms are testing themselves as they have drivethru testing.
It's far more complicated than that.South Korea is thought to have the milder strain, Italy the more severe of the 2 strains identified so far.
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Have you actually looked at the stats?why argue when you haven't even educated yourself.
Yes I have. People like you, who are probably on the bottom of the food chain, who's lives are usually in chaos, always grasp on to things like this. You look to turn everyone into hyper-emotionally, chaotic individuals so you feel better about yourself and your situation. Hanging on every word of the mass media, hoping for another crumb of chaos. Get a life.
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It's far more complicated than that.South Korea is thought to have the milder strain, Italy the more severe of the 2 strains identified so far.
Is this confirmed? Do you have a source? I'm aware of the two strains, but haven't read anywhere that Italy has the bad one.
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Yes I have. People like you, who are probably on the bottom of the food chain, who's lives are usually in chaos, always grasp on to things like this. You look to turn everyone into hyper-emotionally, chaotic individuals so you feel better about yourself and your situation. Hanging on every word of the mass media, hoping for another crumb of chaos. Get a life.
You obviously haven't , your lack of education, your impulsiveness at arguing about things you know nothing about.Id be surprised if you make anything more than minimum wage.You have the foresight of a goldfish.
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You obviously haven't , your lack of education, your impulsiveness at arguing about things you know nothing about.Id be surprised if you make anything more than minimum wage.You have the foresight of a goldfish.
My net worth is mostly likely in a stratosphere you'll never reach. Like seriously, I've probably lost your net worth a couple times over this past week. People like you also tend to get caught up in every conspiracy theory. Always looking for something to fill in the huge void in their lives. So they can act like they have knowledge and foresight that others don't. It's a joke.
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In the United States, nearly all children become infected with RSV by age 2, with 75,000 to 125,000 of them hospitalized each year. Globally, RSV affects an estimated 64 million people and causes 160,000 deaths each year.
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv
RSV is a virus that can cause serious respiratory infections (infections of the lungs and airways), such as pneumonia and bronchiolitis (inflammation of the airways). RSV infection occurs throughout life. In temperate countries like the UK, RSV occurs in epidemics each winter.
In infants, RSV is the main cause of bronchiolitis. Most cases of bronchiolitis are mild and can be managed at home, but about 3% of cases will need hospital care. Worldwide, RSV is the second largest cause of death in children under one year of age (second only to malaria). In 2017 the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated that RSV causes around 33 million serious respiratory infections a year. This results in more than 3 million hospitalisations and nearly 60,000 deaths in children under 5 years of age every year. Nearly half of these hospitalisations and deaths are in children under 6 months of age.
https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/rsv
RSV-associated deaths among children <5 years of age are thought to be uncommon, estimated at 100-500 per year. Among US adults, an estimated 177,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths associated with RSV infections occur annually. However, these are likely underestimates of RSV-associated deaths.
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus-associated-mortality/case-definition/2019/
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And everyone continues to be supremely confident that their prediction is correct.
Nobody knows. The bug. The availability of goods. Nobody knows with certainty.
"I don't know for sure what will happen." Try it. It's very liberating.
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And everyone continues to be supremely confident that their prediction is correct.
Nobody knows. The bug. The availability of goods. Nobody knows with certainty.
"I don't know for sure what will happen." Try it. It's very liberating.
I do know, with 100% certainty, that...
...nobody knows with certainty.
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And everyone continues to be supremely confident that their prediction is correct.
Nobody knows. The bug. The availability of goods. Nobody knows with certainty.
"I don't know for sure what will happen." Try it. It's very liberating.
Except this all played out for a month before in Wuhan, and only slowed down because they were welded in their homes,something the west can't/wont do.So we do know.The real problem is this forum is largely inhabited by Americans who have never travelled outside their country, and think this is something just Chinaman or Italians get.
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Except this all played out for a month before in Wuhan, and only slowed down because they were welded in their homes,something the west can't/wont do.So we do know.The real problem is this forum is largely inhabited by Americans who have never travelled outside their country, and think this is something just Chinaman or Italians get.
And even then, a hospital treating infected people in that city collapsed. Killing at least 10.
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I do know, with 100% certainty, that...
...nobody knows with certainty.
In the spirit of this inquiry proceeding from the known unknown, and having defined the future as an established uncertainty, I hereby invoke the Boy Scout code to be fucking prepared.
Why not stock the freezer with stuff you're going to buy and eat sooner or later anyway? Even if the bug is a bust the supply panic could be real and snowball.
If we don't know then we should...
...not think like Tapeworm so there's plenty left on the shelf for him.
Aw, thanks.
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Interesting.
Ketogenic diet activates protective γδ T cell responses against influenza virus infection
Science Immunology 15 Nov 2019
https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/4/41/eaav2026
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In the spirit of this inquiry proceeding from the known unknown, and having defined the future as an established uncertainty, I hereby invoke the Boy Scout code to be fucking prepared.
Why not stock the freezer with stuff you're going to buy and eat sooner or later anyway? Even if the bug is a bust the supply panic could be real and snowball.
If we don't know then we should...
...not think like Tapeworm so there's plenty left on the shelf for him.
Aw, thanks.
Fear people's panic more than the virus itself. Good point. Stock up on toilet paper too while you're at it.
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Fear people's panic more than the virus itself. Good point. Stock up on toilet paper too while you're at it.
Toilet paper!!! Lol. That’s how you know it’s all bullshit panic. People are worried about wiping their ass. Yep cause you’ll die if you had to clean your butt with your hand and then wash your hand. You should stock up on things you wouldn’t be able to live without after a few day’s. Mainly water and food and medicine. not toilet paper.
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Toilet paper!!! Lol. That’s how you know it’s all bullshit panic. People are worried about wiping their ass. Yep cause you’ll die if you had to clean your butt with your hand and then wash your hand. You should stock up on things you wouldn’t be able to live without after a few day’s. Mainly water and food and medicine. not toilet paper.
I know. No idea what's up with the toilet paper. Kinda like people in the south of the US buying up all the bread and milk when there's snow in weather forecast. Why bread and milk?
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Interesting.
Ketogenic diet activates protective γδ T cell responses against influenza virus infection
Science Immunology 15 Nov 2019
https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/4/41/eaav2026
Does this directly carryover to humans as well?
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Does this directly carryover to humans as well?
Possibly, but we don't know at this time.
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Toilet paper!!! Lol. That’s how you know it’s all bullshit panic. People are worried about wiping their ass. Yep cause you’ll die if you had to clean your butt with your hand and then wash your hand. You should stock up on things you wouldn’t be able to live without after a few day’s. Mainly water and food and medicine. not toilet paper.
To those people I say..
If I went over and pooped on your arm.. would you be okay just wiping it off with paper?
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;D ;D
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8092555/Boris-Johnson-gives-press-conference-amid-calls-tougher-coronavirus-action.html
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WHO " CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IS NOW A VERY REAL THREAT"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8092597/Threat-coronavirus-pandemic-real-WHOs-Tedros.html
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Hospital workers in a NY hospital want it shut down because it's dangerous for them
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Fear people's panic more than the virus itself. Good point. Stock up on toilet paper too while you're at it.
Got enough for 6 months for a single man, so with the gf ought to last 3 weeks or one period, whichever comes first.
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Got enough for 6 months for a single man, so with the gf ought to last 3 weeks or one period, whichever comes first.
Oh, and don't forget the oat milk. I hear it's flying off the shelves. WTF is oat milk? Never heard of it before today.
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Two words - Protein Bars!
The perfect food for troubled times.
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Hey army of one can you change your picture to the joker going “some men are so irrelevant in normal times that they just wanna watch the world burn so they don’t feel sad about themselves anymore”
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Hey army of one can you change your picture to the joker going “some men are so irrelevant in normal times that they just wanna watch the world burn so they don’t feel sad about themselves anymore”
Can you change yours to a 55yr old woman wearing a miniskirt and crop top?They are in as much denial as you are.
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Why would medical workers be worried about their health being in danger?
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My sources have been in touch with the British PM BJ. Schools will be closing, no crowds at sporting events, concerts cancelled, people told to work from home etc. Basically a unenforced lockdown by the end of the week or slightly later if they can get away with it.
They are trying to last out as long as possible to try do some damage limitation with regards to the economy.
Do not dip into the markets. Just remember that the markets right now even after taking a hit are basically where it was at during the dot.com peak. It will snowball. Be patient and we will all be richer fellass
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Was in Costco this past Sunday. Business as usual other than alot of people were hoarding toilet paper. It was almost all gone 20 minutes past doors opening.
Lots of water and food though.
Morons.
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Cowards. Cowards. Cowards.
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Was in Costco this past Sunday. Business as usual other than alot of people were hoarding toilet paper. It was almost all gone 20 minutes past doors opening.
Lots of water and food though.
Morons.
They probably think the government won't let them starve out and that they'll come around door to door with food parcels for everyone.
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Expect this everywhere within a couple of weeks
Jean-Marc Bonzom
@JMBonzom
Italy: "We have to choose who to intubate, between a 40-year-old and a 60-year-old patient who are both at risk of dying. It's atrocious and we are crying; we don't have enough artificial ventilation equipment."
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My sources have been in touch with the British PM BJ. Schools will be closing, no crowds at sporting events, concerts cancelled, people told to work from home etc. Basically a unenforced lockdown by the end of the week or slightly later if they can get away with it.
They are trying to last out as long as possible to try do some damage limitation with regards to the economy.
Do not dip into the markets. Just remember that the markets right now even after taking a hit are basically where it was at during the dot.com peak. It will snowball. Be patient and we will all be richer fellass
Seems the likely progression as China has numbers going down. Although thry welded people into homes because the stupid plebs were ignoring the quarrantine orders. Oh well, human rights or save the people?
Market is going down hard. The bottom will be after quarantine measures have taken place. All my cash will be dumped into the market (banking, aero) and ride the wave up. No brainer.
The cryptos were hillarious. So many wanting to get out of the dead horse that when it ramped like a bastard there was an immediate selloff pushing it back to where it was. Sucks to be those who just copped a 30% loss.
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your daily dose of ugliness
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/donald-trump-obama-fake-news-tweets-124320
As stocks plummeted and concern spread about the growing coronavirus global health crisis, President Donald Trump began his week at his seaside resort in Florida with online screeds about fake news, Barack Obama and the Democratic primary. = real leadership according to GOP voters
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ALL OF ITALY NOW IN EMERGENCY LOCKDOWN
Strict quarantine measures extended to all regions
Public told to stay home
Schools closed until April 3rd
No travel unless with a valid work or family reason
All public gatherings and sports events suspended
Italy got a population of 60 million.
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Whole Italy on lockdown!!
It's just flu, bro.
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It's just flu, bro.
Yes! just a flu, happens every year! Just business as usual!
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Yes! just a flu, happens every year! Just business as usual!
Every year during flu season the market crashes as badly as the great depression, entire cities and countries are locked down, hospitals prepare for overload to the point of collapse, all public sporting events are cancelled, all public gatherings are canceled.That damn flu!
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Every year during flu season the market crashes as badly as the great depression, entire cities and countries are locked down, hospitals prepare for overload to the point of collapse, all public sporting events are cancelled, all public gatherings are canceled.That damn flu!
Of the people in Italy that have Coronavirus, about .05% have died.
It’s good that they are preventing the spread by locking down travel.
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Of the people in Italy that have Coronavirus, about .05% have died.
It’s good that they are preventing the spread by locking down travel.
???
The way to do it is compare the closed cases, amount who fully recovered to amount who died.Its still way too early and many many active cases will die.Of the closed cases Italy's death rate is around 30%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Scroll down for italy
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Seems the likely progression as China has numbers going down. Although thry welded people into homes because the stupid plebs were ignoring the quarrantine orders. Oh well, human rights or save the people?
Market is going down hard. The bottom will be after quarantine measures have taken place. All my cash will be dumped into the market (banking, aero) and ride the wave up. No brainer.
The cryptos were hillarious. So many wanting to get out of the dead horse that when it ramped like a bastard there was an immediate selloff pushing it back to where it was. Sucks to be those who just copped a 30% loss.
The Chinese type of quarantine will be impossible in most Western nations, even if they wanted to implement it. Most people just don't live in blocks of flats/apartments. I don't think it's needed either though, they just need to slow the spread and the warming weather will take care of the rest.
I think there is a chance the market will bear for a while after the quarantine. How many businesses can survive a month without customers, without sales, without production? How many will go bankrupt 3 months or even 6 months down the line.. If the recent market has all been a house of cards then it looks like it could be ready to collapse. It's definitely not looking good for a lot of people.
I'll be staying away from banking, but aero is of big interest.
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???
The way to do it is compare the closed cases, amount who fully recovered to amount who died.Its still way too early and many many active cases will die.Of the closed cases Italy's death rate is around 30%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Scroll down for italy
Closed cases death rate in Italy is 6%
Italy has one of the oldest populations in Europe. Many of whom wear or still are smokers. That alone could explain the higher percentage.
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Closed cases death rate in Italy is 6%
Italy has one of the oldest populations in Europe. Many of whom wear or still are smokers. That alone could explain the higher percentage.
Come on dude, I literally posted the data for you.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
724 recovered, 463 dead
724 + 463 = 1187/100 = 11.87
463/11.87 = 39% death rate
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Come on dude, I literally posted the data for you.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
724 recovered, 463 dead
724 + 463 = 1187/100 = 11.87
463/11.87 = 39% death rate
You can't even post the right link ::)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Those who pre existing conditions do die much quicker so the numbers would be a little skewed at this time. It still seems high though
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You can't even post the right link ::)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
You just have to scroll down... since you are so clueless about numbers I figured you'd benefit from seeing some of the others too, rather than pulling numbers out of your ass.
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You just have to scroll down... since you are so clueless about numbers I figured you'd benefit from seeing some of the others too, rather than pulling numbers out of your ass.
You post numbers and a link to back it up, but they continue different numbers. You do this even though their is an actual link to the data that you could have posted. Get your shit together first before posting next time
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You post numbers and a link to back it up, but they continue different numbers. You do this even though their is an actual link to the data that you could have posted. Get your shit together first before posting next time
Dude, you failed, accept it and move on rather than grasping at straws.
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ICU doctor in the middle of it tells everyone how dumb they are for calling it just flu.Sobering read.
https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129
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Remember last year when they closed China, Iran, and Italy down over the flu? They do it every year. It’s all a nothing burger.
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Dude, you failed, accept it and move on rather than grasping at straws.
Learm to post a link correctly next time rather than have people have to go looking for it
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
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Learm to post a link correctly next time rather than have people have to go looking for it
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
I feel like I'm talking to my 7yr old nephew.But he can read.
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The way to do it is compare the closed cases, amount who fully recovered to amount who died.Its still way too early and many many active cases will die.Of the closed cases Italy's death rate is around 30%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Scroll down for italy
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I feel like I'm talking to my 7yr old nephew.But he can read.
Post the right link with the right data.
You said around 30%. It's 39%. Great maths genius
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/sesame-oil-wont-zap-the-virus-and-dont-microwave-the-mask
Who taught you rounding? Guess it must have been the same person who taught you how to post links
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Cowards. Cowards. Cowards.
;D , ;D , ;D .
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Come on dude, I literally posted the data for you.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
724 recovered, 463 dead
724 + 463 = 1187/100 = 11.87
463/11.87 = 39% death rate
Those numbers are artificially high at the beginning as infected people haven't had a chance to recover yet. China had a death rate of 60% at the beginning, but its dropped to 5.3% as of today as more and more people have recovered. I remember people freaking out about the 60% death rate in January when this virus was first getting increased media attention.
Yes, this virus is serious but I think the way China handled it with the quarantining, and footage/propaganda the world saw of people dropping dead in the street, the body bags, the people being put into boxes in the back of a truck, spraying the streets with disinfectant, locking people into their homes etc, has spooked the world and made people and markets over-react a little. But it's good to over-react as this will make the virus go away quicker.
I think that the interconnectedness of the world through the internet and social media has fanned the flames of paranoia and panic more so than it would have in previous decades.
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ALL OF ITALY NOW IN EMERGENCY LOCKDOWN
Italy got a population of 60 million.
AC Milan lost >:( & Real Madrid too , :-[
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Those numbers are artificially high at the beginning as infected people haven't had a chance to recover yet. China had a death rate of 60% at the beginning, but its dropped to 5.3% as of today as more and more people have recovered.
Sure, but right now that's where we stand.Ive heard China has way more icus available too so that could play a huge part going forward if Italy is already maxed out.
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I need to know this Virus death count by Race
All Asians?
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I need to know this Virus death count by Race
All Asians?
Italy is getting decimated and it's nearly all native Italians.Same with Iran and native.
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Italy population as of 2013: 60,000,000+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy
"As of 9 March 2020, there have been 9,172 confirmed cases, 463 deaths, and 724 recoveries in Italy."
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“Speaking of being at risk, the president, he sleeps less than I do, and he's healthier than what I am” - US Surgeon General
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The Prime Minister of Ireland has been the most honest about this of all the leaders
Irish Premier, Leo Varadkar:
"What we have seen from what is available at the moment, is that we could we could easily have 50 or 60% of our population contracting Covid-19.
For the vast majority of the population this will be a mild illness and may even by asymptomatic. However, there will be a significant part of the population who will require critical care.
A percentage that we don't honestly know yet - it could be one per cent or three per cent - mortality.
It is not the kind of thing we have seen in a very long time.... even if the health service was twice the size it is now we will struggle."
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Italy is getting decimated and it's nearly all native Italians.Same with Iran and native.
No.. Italy is all the asians working in sweat shops fashion districts in the North..... Milan in particular
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Love to know why large events in the US like SXSW are getting cancelled..
yet Universal Studios, Disney parks.. etc.. remain open?
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What's going to happen when a few 90yr old people have every bed at every hospital, and are being seen by every doctor at every emergency service, with more coming in?
Are there that many 90 year people running around?
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Are there that many 90 year people running around?
I think you are going crazy.You are starting to repeat yourself
Let me guess. A few 90 year old people... who would’ve died later this year anyway.
What's going to happen when a few 90yr old people have every bed at every hospital, and are being seen by every doctor at every emergency service, with more coming in?
Really? Are there that many 90 year old people....all of whom will get the coronavirus? ::) Well if that happens and you get the coronavirus, you'll just have to wait your turn.
I was quoting him, he basically meant "old people", of which there are many.
And don't I know it....being 75 years old myself. What do you suppose Army of One will do when his end of the world predictions do not come to pass? Maybe lay low and wait for the next big thing to come along like most alarmists do.
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this looks like an extremely fat man wore a rubber mask to impersonate the orange turd
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The sign of a great leader in times of crisis
"President swayed by flattery, personal appeals
Trump’s unpredictable demands and attention to public statements — and his own susceptibility to flattery — have created an administration where top officials feel constantly at siege, worried that the next presidential tweet will decide their professional future, and panicked that they need to regularly impress him."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/trump-coronavirus-management-style-123465
This guy should never, never wear white pants. They make him look like a great white whale.
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Fuck panicking over the damn virus, panic over the economic wave of destruction coming for us.
50% will catch the virus. 4% die (mostly old) so overall, 2% loss.
100% will be heavily financially impacted. I'd say 20% will be financially decimated like the GFC for 6-12 months.
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This guy should never, never wear white pants. They make him look like a great white whale.
stop fat shaming the president, wheres lizzo to defend him.
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Panic has hit home. My daughter and son in law came home this afternoon after shopping at Costco with so much stuff. I think they caught caught up in a frenzy of panicked shoppers. Costco is limiting purchases of certain items, i.e. toilet paper. Not sure what the big thing is with toilet paper, the coronavirus is a respiratory virus not a stomach virus. Water was another limited purchase.
This whole thing is just insane and it's all Army or One's fault. He's got half the people on the planet scared. ;D
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Cowards ! Cowards ! Cowards !
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Hasn’t been a single case in my state. I think people have gone WAY overboard with this shit.
I am fckn sick of politics being the motivation behind EVERY mthrfcking news story!! Back when Obama dealt with H1N1 - and had way higher death toll - the media made it out as if Obama saved us all..
Trump has a second term in the bag. He has accomplished far more in 3 years than the last 2 jagoffs did in 16. Anyone that would vote for “Joe to sleep” really needs to look into getting a “life coach”
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Fuck panicking over the damn virus, panic over the economic wave of destruction coming for us.
50% will catch the virus. 4% die (mostly old) so overall, 2% loss.
100% will be heavily financially impacted. I'd say 20% will be financially decimated like the GFC for 6-12 months.
You are right. There is no reason to panic what so ever. In meantime USA has rise to the top 8 of the COVID-19 countries with 754 sick, 28 dead and 8 recovered patient. In one week from 60 to 754, that is kind of fast, but americans are. I wait when the looting starts, should be any minute now, when people realize that those who has money are emptying grocery shops to store food for quarantine.. ;D
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Cowards ! Cowards ! Cowards !
A well prepared coward will outlast an ill prepared hero.
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Has Wiggs commented on the biblical implications of the situation?
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Covid-19 causes diarrhea so you will need toilet paper.
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Cowards ! Cowards ! Cowards !
I stocked up late January, I’m feeling pretty comfy. You won’t.
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Everyone here in a popular state in the USA or any EU country needs to prepare for what Italy is going through now to happen to them in 10-20 days.That means all schools and colleges closing, every bar, restaurant,gym,pool,ski resort etc to close.All sporting events played behind closed doors or cancelled, all concerts,festivals etc cancelled, no public gatherings.No going out apart from work and to get essentials.Buy your food and other essentials now before the mass rush.Have a plan for your kids while you are not there.Start haggling to work from home now if you can and haven't done so.
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Covid-19 causes diarrhea so you will need toilet paper.
That's first product which will be sold out from markets: Australian newspaper prints blank pages to help tackle toilet paper shortage - https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/05/coronavirus-australian-newspaper-prints-blank-pages-to-help-tackle-toilet-paper-shortage/ (https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/05/coronavirus-australian-newspaper-prints-blank-pages-to-help-tackle-toilet-paper-shortage/)..
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Also Italy are turning down anyone over 65 for ICU treatment or anyone below 65 with comorbidities, in favour of patients younger and healthier.Something to keep in mind as I see this being the same approach worldwide.
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Everyone here in a popular state in the USA or any EU country needs to prepare for what Italy is going through now to happen to them in 10-20 days.That means all schools and colleges closing, every bar, restaurant,gym,pool,ski resort etc to close.All sporting events played behind closed doors or cancelled, all concerts,festivals etc cancelled, no public gatherings.No going out apart from work and to get essentials.Buy your food and other essentials now before the mass rush.Have a plan for your kids while you are not there.Start haggling to work from home now if you can and haven't done so.
Nope..
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Nope..
Compelling argument, really made me rethink.
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Is it true that USA is sticking to it's principle "no healthcare for free" and is denying testing unless you pay 3000$?
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So China has defeated the Corona????
Xi JinpingXINHUA VIA REUTERS
Long overdue.
VICTORY
Xi Jinping’s visit to Wuhan sends a clear message: China has defeated the coronavirus
March 10, 2020
Jane Li
By Jane Li
China tech reporter
FROM OUR OBSESSION
Because China
Even small changes in China have global effects.
China is sending the surest sign yet that it has the coronavirus under control: Chinese leader Xi Jinping finally visited Wuhan, the epicenter of the epidemic, for the first time since the crisis began in January.
Xi arrived in the city this morning to “inspect the prevention and control work of the the coronavirus,” according to state news agency Xinhua, and will visit medical workers, military commanders, community workers, police officers, grassroots officials, volunteers, and local residents. He also visited Huoshenshan, one of the hospitals that was rapidly constructed to tackle the outbreak.
Xi JinpingPEOPLE'S DIALY
Xi Jinping visits Huoshenshan hospital.
Chinese health authorities first reported that there were pneumonia cases in Wuhan, Hubei province in December to the World Health Organization. By the latest count, the province has reported a total of at least 67,760 cases (link in Chinese) and 3,024 deaths. Xi’s visit comes as China has been reporting a steadily falling number of confirmed cases and deaths in the last two weeks. Only 19 new cases, of which 17 were in Wuhan, were reported yesterday.
Beijing has signaled confidence in its fight against the epidemic by allowing cities outside Hubei to resume work and production. The government is also projecting that confidence overseas through a propaganda campaign that attempts to re-frame China as the global leader in the fight against the epidemic, and dispelling the narrative that the Covid-19 outbreak began in China.
Bill Bishop, an analyst who writes the China-focused Sinocism newsletter, wrote earlier that the surest signs that the Communist Party “thinks victory really is at hand” are if Xi visits Wuhan, kids go back to school, and a new date is set for the delayed “Two Sessions” political meetings, originally slated to take place this month.
Prior to today’s visit, Xi had been under fire for his lack of public appearances as the epidemic raged. His deputy, Li Keqiang, visited frontline workers and residents in Wuhan in January, while vice premier Sun Chunlan has been leading the government’s response to the crisis in Hubei. Xi did not make his first public appearance until Feb. 10, when he visited a residential community in Beijing, though state media had been cultivating the image of the leader as a sort of behind-the-scenes commander of the country’s efforts against the outbreak.
With public anger over the government’s management of the epidemic still palpable, Xi’s visit is likely to be conducted in a tightly controlled fashion. Just five days ago, angry residents in a Wuhan residential complex chanted “it’s all fake!” from their windows during Sun’s inspection of the neighborhood.
https://qz.com/1815533/xi-jinping-visits-wuhan-for-first-time-since-coronavirus-outbreak/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo
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meanwhile in us,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8083543/Customs-NOT-screening-passengers-coronavirus-hot-spots.html
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meanwhile in us
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8083543/Customs-NOT-screening-passengers-coronavirus-hot-spots.html
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VIDEO: A doctor breaks down the 8 things everyone should know about coronavirus
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/doctor-breaks-down-coronavirus-203755145.html
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"The biggest concern right now is not the current CFR, but what the CFR will be when medical systems get overrun.
About 10% of infections need an IC bed and assisted breathing. If those IC beds and breathing machines run out, we have a serious problem and the CFR may shoot up.
We can use the growth factor of 1.2 (observed in i.e. Italy) to compute the number of days until the number of infections exceeds the number of IC beds.
# days until overrun = CEIL((log(# IC beds * (1 - % of IC beds taken)) - log(# infections))/log(growth factor))
I compute the following:
d00 - number of days until medical system overrun GIVEN 0% of beds are taken
d50 - number of days until medical system overrun GIVEN 50% of beds are taken
d75 - number of days until medical system overrun GIVEN 75% of beds are taken
d90 - number of days until medical system overrun GIVEN 90% of beds are taken
Note that d00 is the most optimistic scenario, and very unrealistic. Most countries have a shortage of IC beds on a normal day, especially in urban areas.
In the Netherlands d90 is more realistic. Friends who work in the medical sector have told me this. You can decide for yourself which estimate you find most reasonable.
Country (#infections / #beds)
>d90/d75/d50/d00
Italy (9172/8000)
>0 / 5 / 9 / 12 (Locally the medical system is already overrun. Field hospitals are being deployed)
Switzerland (374/ 1000)
>6 / 11 / 15 / 19
Sweden (248/700)
>6 / 11 / 15 / 19
Spain (1209/8000)
>9 / 14 / 18 / 22
Netherlands (321/ 2056)
>11 / 16 / 20 / 23
France (1073/5000)
>11 / 16 / 20 / 23
Belgium (239/2000)
>12 / 17 / 21 / 25
UK (321/5000)
>16 / 21 / 24 / 28
Germany (1176/25000)
>17 / 22 / 26 / 30
Luxembourg (3/200)
>24 / 29 / 32 / 36"
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The media turning on the donald for this is just dumb. There's not much you can do when a new contagious disease emerges except some basic measures and hoping for the best.
It's like trying to stop billions of people from spreading the flue.
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meanwhile in us,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8083543/Customs-NOT-screening-passengers-coronavirus-hot-spots.html
Those who control the US want you all dead....
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“Speaking of being at risk, the president, he sleeps less than I do, and he's healthier than what I am” - US Surgeon General
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTvV6rtVQAE0Ihl.jpg)
i hope this fat bitch dies first
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Italy suspends mortgage payments.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexSaundersAU/status/1237314081494724609?s=19
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Love to know why large events in the US like SXSW are getting cancelled..
yet Universal Studios, Disney parks.. etc.. remain open?
because the dumb masses need to be extinct
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This guy should never, never wear white pants. They make him look like a great white whale.
Prime, that's an insult to the Great White
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I looked at the DNA sequence of Covid19 and compared it to the bat virus. 96% identical. Comparison to other Coronaviruses yields a lower percentage. There is also a spot at the end of the DNA sequence where the sequence differs resulting in (after sequence translation) exactly four additional amino acids in the protein chain (back to back). You will almost never see (one in a quadrillion) exactly four amino acids insertion during natural mutation.
Looking at a recently taken down scientific article from a Taiwanese scientist claiming the virus has been engineered and escaped the only Level 4 lab in China (in Wuhan, incidentally) with the person that supposedly worked on it dying from the infection, coupled with the fact that the bat's nutsack and other bat body parts are not sold on the market that was questionably the origin of infection, I believe we will never exactly know how this virus started infecting people.
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I looked at the DNA sequence of Covid19 and compared it to the bat virus. 96% identical. Comparison to other Coronaviruses yields a lower percentage. There is also a spot at the end of the DNA sequence where the sequence differs resulting in (after sequence translation) exactly four additional amino acids in the protein chain (back to back). You will almost never see (one in a quadrillion) exactly four amino acids insertion during natural mutation.
Looking at a recently taken down scientific article from a Taiwanese scientist claiming the virus has been engineered and escaped the only Level 4 lab in China (in Wuhan, incidentally) with the person that supposedly worked on it dying from the infection, coupled with the fact that the bat's nutsack and other bat body parts are not sold on the market that was questionably the origin of infection, I believe we will never exactly know how this virus started infecting people.
Thanks ilalin!!!........great post
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Thanks ilalin!!!........great post
no worries..and here is the link to the withdrawn article (just see the abstract). Something stinks here:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjt65rgsZDoAhX9gXIEHb0xDDEQFjAGegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0WUvEAf_dfDxu-wnu-X40L
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i hope this fat bitch dies first
Hahaha keep crying liberal.Boohoo I’m a little pussy.
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And so it begins
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Is it true that USA is sticking to it's principle "no healthcare for free" and is denying testing unless you pay 3000$?
Sort of, I forget the number, but the Corona test is between $2000 - 3000, and they were passing at least some of the cost down to citizens. But that's slowly changing, a handful of cities have ordered insurers to cover it, and many of the US's bigger insurers folded and said they'll make it a free test for all the people they cover.
I suspect in the next few days it will be a free test to all. I'm also sure the insurers will find a way to recoup the cost.
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Art imitates life?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containment_(TV_series)
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Hahaha keep crying liberal.Boohoo I’m a little pussy.
if you were smart, you'd realize a long time ago that trump (no, not Trump) is a lying piece of shit and a conman. I'm all for American prosperity and this bitch, has not and will never bring anything prosperous to the great American nation. In fact, I believe he would collude with any other lying piece of shit to keep himself in power.
I am not sure why I am trying to explain this to you. It's like trying to explain to a bipolar person that is in their mania portion of the disorder, that they are manic. When the depresion sets in, you will see for yourself. It might take years, though.
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if you were smart, you'd realize a long time ago that trump (no, not Trump) is a lying piece of shit and a conman. I'm all for American prosperity and this bitch, has not and will never bring anything prosperous to the great American nation. In fact, I believe he would collude with any other lying piece of shit to keep himself in power.
I am not sure why I am trying to explain this to you. It's like trying to explain to a bipolar person that is in their mania portion of the disorder, that they are manic. When the depresion sets in, you will see for yourself. It might take years, though.
Every politician is a lying piece of shit and a conman.You dont get anywhere in politics without being ruthless and stepping on people to get to where you want to be.You just need someone who projects strength and isn't afraid to offend people to get the job done.Apart from dropping the ball on not acting quickly enough on Corona, Trump has done this best of any president I've seen.
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And so it begins
Too little, too late, I think that the number of infected in the USA is already very significant. We are just not informed yet. Canada might be in the same boat.
This is due to the fact that some cases might go symptomless for up to 24 days. This, coupled with the fact that the virus is easily transmitted and might even survive on surfaces for some time, points to all of us being in danger. 3% is not very high if talking about 100,000 cases. But 3% of a million is 30,000 deaths. And that sucks.
Men have higher chances of contracting too. A good thing is that children seem to be more resistant. Lord of the Flies, baby...
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Every politician is a lying piece of shit and a conman.You dont get anywhere in politics without being ruthless and stepping on people to get to where you want to be.You just need someone who projects strength and isn't afraid to offend people to get the job done.Apart from dropping the ball on not acting quickly enough on Corona, Trump has done this best of any president I've seen.
i agree. It's just that he's not very smart. He might have capable people around him telling him what to do, where I'd hope he'd listen.
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if you were smart, you'd realize a long time ago that trump (no, not Trump) is a lying piece of shit and a conman. I'm all for American prosperity and this bitch, has not and will never bring anything prosperous to the great American nation. In fact, I believe he would collude with any other lying piece of shit to keep himself in power.
I am not sure why I am trying to explain this to you. It's like trying to explain to a bipolar person that is in their mania portion of the disorder, that they are manic. When the depresion sets in, you will see for yourself. It might take years, though.
Your brain has to be incredibly small, and you have to be incredibly gullible to believe that Trump isn't the savior and the Kwizatz Haderach US and the World needs.
In other words, you have to be just like the millions of other sheeple on social media who see something and cannot for the love of God use their little brains to do a shred of investigating before they suck the proverbial cock of fakeness down and start spreading it all over the God damned internet.
Sheep.
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Too little, too late, I think that the number of infected in the USA is already very significant. We are just not informed yet. Canada might be in the same boat.
This is due to the fact that some cases might go symptomless for up to 24 days. This, coupled with the fact that the virus is easily transmitted and might even survive on surfaces for some time, points to all of us being in danger. 3% is not very high if talking about 100,000 cases. But 3% of a million is 30,000 deaths. And that sucks.
Men have higher chances of contracting too. A good thing is that children seem to be more resistant. Lord of the Flies, baby...
Yup.And that 3% number goes out the window once hospitals are overloaded imho.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237145452681875457
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Just flu, bro
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fgfspi/im_a_critical_care_doctor_working_in_a_uk_hcid/
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Prime, that's an insult to the Great White
I hadn't thought of that, but you are right. Sorry all you Great White whales. :)
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Angela Merkel warns up to 58 million Germans, 60-70% of population will get coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8096955/Around-58-MILLION-Germans-infected-coronavirus-Angela-Merkel-warns.html
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NOT IN ISRAHELL!!!!
Hmmmmmm... DISCUSS
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Angela Merkel warns 58 million Germans, 60-70% of population will get coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8096955/Around-58-MILLION-Germans-infected-coronavirus-Angela-Merkel-warns.html
Perhaps she won't be around for much longer.
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Strict airport control?
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Israel has mid-high double digit cases now -
www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/51st-Israeli-diagnosed-with-coronavirus-620424 .
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Just flu, bro
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fgfspi/im_a_critical_care_doctor_working_in_a_uk_hcid/
well, yes but about 30 times deadlier. Still, it might not be the end of the world. On the other hand, it might make a comeback every winter from now on and that will make it a real threat against humanity.
849 reported cases in the USA right now, I think more like thousands of unreported, asymptomatic at the moment
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well, yes but about 30 times deadlier. Still, it might not be the end of the world. On the other hand, it might make a comeback every winter from now on and that will make it a real threat against humanity.
849 reported cases in the USA right now, I think more like thousands of unreported, asymptomatic at the moment
74 more cases in Washington state just announced with 2 more dead.
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It's finally affecting some of my peeps.
NY setting up containment zone around New Rochelle
New York is setting up a one-mile containment zone around a Westchester County city in an effort to
control the spreading of the novel coronavirus. The zone will be in place from March 12–25.
The zone will ring New Rochelle, which is an epicenter of coronavirus cases in the state. The 108 cases
in the area are considered a cluster.
Schools, religious buildings, and other businesses that cater to large events inside the zone will be
closed for that period.
"The numbers have been going up, the numbers continue to go up, the numbers are going up unabated
and we do need a special public health strategy for New Rochelle," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said at a news
conference. "What we are going to do is focus on an area concentric circle around the sites of the majority
of the cases in New Rochelle. Much of the transmission tends to happen on a geographic basis. … So
containment strategies focus on geographic areas."
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/ny-setting-up-containment-zone-around-new-rochelle
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I was cynical and thought it was mostly hype. I was wrong. It's getting scary.
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Perhaps she won't be around for much longer.
If this gets to be true (God forbid), let's use 2% as a conservative mortality rate:
89 million x 0.6 x 0.02 = around a million people
That is staggering.
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I suspect in the next few days it will be a free test to all. I'm also sure the insurers will find a way to recoup the cost.
It'll end up free. If it gets bad there will be checkpoints.
Lets get real, people won't take the test and why would you? For starters nobody wants to be quarrantined for 2 weeks from work with no pay. We have been brought up being told to go to work despite being sick. Hell, during flu season the office is full of sick people, nobody stays home because managers get pissed off.
This is the reason for the lockdowns. Shut it all down so nobody goes anywhere because there is nowhere.to actually go.
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connecticut just announced a public health emergency
;D ;D ;D :-X :-X :-X
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Where are all the tough guys that made fun of this just a couple of days ago?
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Where are all the tough guys that made fun of this just a couple of days ago?
Still here and still not worried.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51827356
Health minister and Conservative MP Nadine Dorries says she has tested positive for coronavirus.
She said in a statement that as soon as she was informed she took all the advised precautions and had been self-isolating at home.
:o
hopefully trump is next
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51827356
Health minister and Conservative MP Nadine Dorries says she has tested positive for coronavirus.
She said in a statement that as soon as she was informed she took all the advised precautions and had been self-isolating at home.
:o
hopefully trump is next
You will be disappointed when Trump crushes the virus just like he crushes liberal fucktards.
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Where are all the tough guys that made fun of this just a couple of days ago?
It would be crass to mock people who might be panicking now. But it's going as expected..
It will get really bad really fast and then just peter out. Kinda like a tsunami.
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It'll end up free. If it gets bad there will be checkpoints.
Lets get real, people won't take the test and why would you? For starters nobody wants to be quarrantined for 2 weeks from work with no pay. We have been brought up being told to go to work despite being sick. Hell, during flu season the office is full of sick people, nobody stays home because managers get pissed off.
This is the reason for the lockdowns. Shut it all down so nobody goes anywhere because there is nowhere.to actually go.
A man in Tasmania Australia went to work while he was sick with Coronavirus. He said he couldn’t risk losing his part time job.
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Anybody have any information about false positives on these tests?
I remember during aids there was a scam to trigger false positives and then get on the welfare gold card bandwagon.
I don’t claim to be an expert on this but I do remember the AIDS hysteria. We were all going to die. As it turned out the only ones who did die were junkies and guys who smuggled 20 cocks a night.
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If I ever get the corona virus, I am going to raw dog as many bitches as I possibly can.
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If I ever get the corona virus, I am going to raw dog as many bitches as I possibly can.
Why wait ???
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Just the flu...
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It'll end up free. If it gets bad there will be checkpoints.
Lets get real, people won't take the test and why would you? For starters nobody wants to be quarrantined for 2 weeks from work with no pay. We have been brought up being told to go to work despite being sick. Hell, during flu season the office is full of sick people, nobody stays home because managers get pissed off.
This is the reason for the lockdowns. Shut it all down so nobody goes anywhere because there is nowhere.to actually go.
You may not need to take the test to be sent home from work. Anyone who coughs or sneezes is suspect. I had an appointment with the optometrist last week. They had a sign on the door announcing that if you have symptoms of a cold, i.e. coughing or sneezing please do not enter. Call and reschedule your appointment. -Went to the dentist today and forewarned them that I have a slight dry cough because of seasonal allergies. They said it wasn't a problem. If things keep going the way they have been these past few weeks, the dentist will probably change their tune.
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Still here and still not worried.
Same.
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You will be disappointed when Trump crushes the virus just like he crushes liberal fucktards.
You are a laugh a minute.
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Anybody have any information about false positives on these tests?
I remember during aids there was a scam to trigger false positives and then get on the welfare gold card bandwagon.
I don’t claim to be an expert on this but I do remember the AIDS hysteria. We were all going to die. As it turned out the only ones who did die were junkies and guys who smuggled 20 cocks a night.
It's a little soon to be thinking about welfare for coronavirus victims.
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It's a little soon to be thinking about welfare for coronavirus victims.
LOL
When there is this kind of money being thrown around you can bet your life that there’s going to be multiple scams to get a piece of it.
Trump signs $8.3 billion emergency coronavirus spending package
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/trump-signs-8point3-billion-emergency-coronavirus-spending-package.html
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If I ever get the corona virus, I am going to raw dog as many bitches as I possibly can.
So? Isn't the coronavirus airborne? As this point there is no indication that it is spread through sexual contact.
"The short answer is that experts really don’t know. “What we know thus far is that COVID-19 is present in respiratory secretions,” Kristin Englund, MD, of the department of infectious disease at the Cleveland Clinic, tells Health. Respiratory secretions include droplets that exit a person's mouth from coughing or sneezing. Because these secretions from an infected person can carry the virus, some countries (like France) are discouraging people from greeting one another with a cheek kiss, reported The Washington Post."
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/can-you-get-coronavirus-from-sex
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Just the flu...
fucking exactly pussies need to get there asses out of there head.
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LOL
When there is this kind of money being thrown around you can bet your life that there’s going to be multiple scams to get a piece of it.
Trump signs $8.3 billion emergency coronavirus spending package
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/trump-signs-8point3-billion-emergency-coronavirus-spending-package.html
The most likely scams will probably have something to do with testing for the virus. People that get the virus and develop symptoms seem to either get over it or die from it pretty quickly. Surely, it must take awhile to get welfare. Looks like at best, a person might get food stamps which they probably won't need because the shelves at the store will all be empty.
"The processing time for child care assistance, for example takes 30 days. If you are applying for basic cash assistance you can expect a wait time of 45 days. However if you are applying for food stamps, the turn-around time is only 7 days."
https://www.welfareinfo.org/payments/
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"Trump’s overall handling of the converging crises — while spreading misinformation and blaming others —
has unsettled many of his Republican allies on Capitol Hill and even inside the White House, where some aides
acknowledged that the president is compounding problems with his grievances and conspiratorial mind-set."
= epic white grievance leadership
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-from-tweet-eruptions-to-economic-steps-trump-struggles-for-calm-amid-market-meltdown-and-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB10XMgg
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NOT IN ISRAHELL!!!!
Hmmmmmm... DISCUSS
Good physical & mental walls, & the best of all Egypt is now building 2km long wall to stop 'Palestinians' from Gaza going into Egypt.
Nothing sweeter than Arab screwing another Arab.
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Good physical & mental walls, & the best of all Egypt is now building 2km long wall to stop 'Palestinians' from Gaza going into Egypt.
Nothing sweeter than Arab screwing another Arab.
Actually, they buttfuck one another all the time. In a "special" room that not even the fuckwad "allah" can see in. Add to that the abuse of children in the form of "Chai Boys" and yup. Arabs screw Arabs all the time.
Personally, I hope to Buddha that Iran is decimated by the Bolognavirus. islime deserves to be put down by Mother Nature since God hasn't seen fit to do so. Same with the baby girl murdering ChiComs. I hope that kuntry is also wiped clean by the wrath of the Bologna.
Fuck those turd world kuntries.
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"Trump’s overall handling of the converging crises — while spreading misinformation and blaming others —
has unsettled many of his Republican allies on Capitol Hill and even inside the White House, where some aides
acknowledged that the president is compounding problems with his grievances and conspiratorial mind-set."
= epic white grievance leadership
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-from-tweet-eruptions-to-economic-steps-trump-struggles-for-calm-amid-market-meltdown-and-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB10XMgg
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwXBD2UUAUiT2I.jpg)
And the communist regime of mainland China, the 'sick man of Asia', is blaming the virus on the US to try and save face instead of acknowledging the filth of their country and their uncivilized and unhygienic population.
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"Trump’s overall handling of the converging crises — while spreading misinformation and blaming others —
has unsettled many of his Republican allies on Capitol Hill and even inside the White House, where some aides
acknowledged that the president is compounding problems with his grievances and conspiratorial mind-set."
= epic white grievance leadership
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-from-tweet-eruptions-to-economic-steps-trump-struggles-for-calm-amid-market-meltdown-and-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB10XMgg
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwXBD2UUAUiT2I.jpg)
You're an idiot
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well, yes but about 30 times deadlier. Still, it might not be the end of the world. On the other hand, it might make a comeback every winter from now on and that will make it a real threat against humanity.
849 reported cases in the USA right now, I think more like thousands of unreported, asymptomatic at the moment
US is 8th most infected country of this planet by 1037 covid-19 cases, 28 dead and 8 recovered patients. Funny part is this: At last weeks Monday there were only 60 cases of covid-19, so there has been quite fast increase of these cases. No worry, Trump knows this better than doctors, so all is good.. ;D
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Inteligence and lack of political correctness.
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US is 8th most infected country of this planet by 1037 covid-19 cases, 28 dead and 8 recovered patients. Funny part is this: At last weeks Monday there were only 60 cases of covid-19, so there has been quite fast increase of these cases. No worry, Trump knows this better than doctors, so all is good.. ;D
A better comparison would be looking at the US number against the numbers in Europe. In that regards the US is looking good, but shits gonna hit the fan there soon.
Military intervention may well be necessary in some areas
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Walls...
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"Trump’s overall handling of the converging crises — while spreading misinformation and blaming others —
has unsettled many of his Republican allies on Capitol Hill and even inside the White House, where some aides
acknowledged that the president is compounding problems with his grievances and conspiratorial mind-set."
= epic white grievance leadership
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-from-tweet-eruptions-to-economic-steps-trump-struggles-for-calm-amid-market-meltdown-and-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB10XMgg
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwXBD2UUAUiT2I.jpg)
One of the most discriptive and accurate posts ever placed on GetBig. Anyone who voted for that jackass should be forced to the back of every hospital / doctor line up and be forced to wait to buy personal sanitizers after everyone else.
That girl fucked up the response to try to retain voters and his bullshit has cost and will cost may more.
J
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US is 8th most infected country of this planet by 1037 covid-19 cases, 28 dead and 8 recovered patients. Funny part is this: At last weeks Monday there were only 60 cases of covid-19, so there has been quite fast increase of these cases. No worry, Trump knows this better than doctors, so all is good.. ;D
yeah, very soon , both in the States and Canada numbers will hit thousands. The fact that we might hit a hundred thousand or more in 3-4 weeks depends on the current response. The more prohibitive movement of the population the better the outcome.
Brothers and sisters, wash your hands with soap and warm water frequently, try to remember (even though it might be unconscious) to not touch your face during the day. Surgical masks will not protect from the droplets but N95's will. If you are lucky to have some N95's and let's say you need to go out in a dense urban centre like New York City, try to keep some distance between yourselves and others, and wear glasses (even fake, non prescription). The reason is that the droplets with suspended viral particles after an infected person coughs or sneezes or talks can enter the body through the eyes. N95's must be worn on a clean shaven face for men, otherwise the seal is non-existent. The tiny metal strip must be pressed against the nose tightly. The straps on top and below ears must not be twisted.
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China reports 19 cases of coronavirus on Tuesday.... Over a billion people, 19 cases.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876
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Cases in Italy will start to drop off now due to containment in a similar fashion to China.
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China reports 19 cases of coronavirus on Tuesday.... Over a billion people, 19 cases.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876
don't forget that they were welding shut the entrances to high-rises in the city of Wuhan, among other things
Can you do that in a democratic Europe or the USA?
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don't forget that they were welding shut the entrances to high-rises in the city of Wuhan, among other things
Can you do that in a democratic Europe or the USA?
South Korea is democratic....
Infection rates are also dropping in South Korea.
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Basically, doc's saying Corona kills fatties.
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How is it possible to see and hear of so much panic over a little thing like Corona, when the REAL THREATS go undressed
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My sister is a dr in Royal prince Alfred hospital Melbourne, today they tested 600 people for coronavirus.
Zero were positive.
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South Korea is democratic....
Infection rates are also dropping in South Korea.
good news
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China reports 19 cases of coronavirus on Tuesday.... Over a billion people, 19 cases.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876
India has recorded 60 confirmed coronavirus cases in total and that 60 includes 16 tourists from Italy.
The coronavirus may not like hot and humid weather. We're not hearing reports of many cases in South America, are we?
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How is it possible to see and hear of so much panic over a little thing like Corona, when the REAL THREATS go undressed
yep we all need more meat n dairy
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My sister is a dr in Royal prince Alfred hospital Melbourne, today they tested 600 people for coronavirus.
Zero were positive.
It could have something to do with the warm climate. Rate of virus survival is lower in warmer climates.
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Stay safe my nikkas
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Ikr, fr
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yeah, very soon , both in the States and Canada numbers will hit thousands. The fact that we might hit a hundred thousand or more in 3-4 weeks depends on the current response. The more prohibitive movement of the population the better the outcome.
Brothers and sisters, wash your hands with soap and warm water frequently, try to remember (even though it might be unconscious) to not touch your face during the day. Surgical masks will not protect from the droplets but N95's will. If you are lucky to have some N95's and let's say you need to go out in a dense urban centre like New York City, try to keep some distance between yourselves and others, and wear glasses (even fake, non prescription). The reason is that the droplets with suspended viral particles after an infected person coughs or sneezes or talks can enter the body through the eyes. N95's must be worn on a clean shaven face for men, otherwise the seal is non-existent. The tiny metal strip must be pressed against the nose tightly. The straps on top and below ears must not be twisted.
Sundstrom SR200 with 510 P3 filter. Paper masks let all kinds of shit through no matter what the manufacturer claims. Take it from a guy who sands a lot of drywall.
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Yes it's something to think about, looks like you haven't.
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Nine Coronavirus threads on the first page of this one board alone. WTF?
Mods, please merge!
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Nine Coronavirus threads on the first page of this one board alone. WTF?
Mods, please merge!
These threads about the Corona sure spread don't they!
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How is it possible to see and hear of so much panic over a little thing like Corona, when the REAL THREATS go undressed
Add all those deaths up and it amounts to 60k a day, total deaths worldwide daily is 150k.This amount leads to most countries hospital beds on average being around 70-90% full, icus usually 90% or so.
This virus has the potential to infect 50% or more of the world population within the first year, that's 3.35 billion people, of which conservatively 15% would need hospital care, that's 500 million people, roughly 1.4 million people a day.
If that happens the vast majority would not get hospital care because there simply wouldn't be beds or icus available, then you are looking at 350 million dead or more, that's roughly 1 million dying a day.1 million vs your 60k graphic.
Get it now?
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These threads about the Corona sure spread don't they!
LOL
Mods, never mind. No matter how many times you merge, these threads will just keep on spreading. It's a fooking virus.
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Thanks for keeping things in perspective.
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Wash your hands and listen to metal.
It’ll be fine.
And if it isn’t, you’ll die. And that’s that.
Next ...
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Save one bullet for yourself.
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So... what do you fellas reckon the powers-that-be are trying to accomplish?
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-passes-bill-allowing-putin-085423653.html
Russia passes bill allowing Putin to stay in power past 2024
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So... how long do you think is going to take before some nut head decides to do something to someone in the media?
I understand they need ratings but... this is George Orwell 1984 type of stuff.
This isn't information, it's the deliberate intent on the part of the media to 1) create an atmosphere of panic, 2) make NO CONSTRUCTIVE ATTEMPTS to inform people of the illness and 3) to engage in the usual blame and name calling bonanza they are, in this day and age, know to engage in.
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How is it possible to see and hear of so much panic over a little thing like Corona, when the REAL THREATS go undressed
Cancer, heart disease, diabetes and suicide are not contagious.
All of those things have some form of treatment and all of them have armys of people working on solving or curing them.
How is that unaddressed?
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So... how long do you think is going to take before some nut head decides to do something to someone in the media?
I understand they need ratings but... this is George Orwell 1984 type of stuff.
This isn't information, it's the deliberate intent on the part of the media to 1) create an atmosphere of panic, 2) make NO CONSTRUCTIVE ATTEMPTS to inform people of the illness and 3) to engage in the usual blame and name calling bonanza they are, in this day and age, know to engage in.
The first place I saw this virus being regularly discussed was here . You can track the evolution of the how the media covered this story with that thread, by time and date. The gp didn't need the media to whip them into a frenzy.
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The WHO confirmed COVID2019 as a Pandemic. Governments called to change the course of the outbreak by taking "urgent and aggressive action".
I think that is exactly what we need in North America.
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The WHO confirmed COVID2019 as a Pandemic. Governments called to change the course of the outbreak by taking "urgent and aggressive action".
I think that is exactly what we need in North America.
WHO is apart of the UN and it’s a scare tactic. During Obama’s reign of terror it took him more than four months and over thousand deaths to address the H1N1 and he caught little flak from it.
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WHO?
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What kinda virus is this? At least with the HIV virus it affected gay people and junkies!
Todays viruses... >:(
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Cancer, heart disease, diabetes and suicide are not contagious.
All of those things have some form of treatment and all of them have armys of people working on solving or curing them.
How is that unaddressed?
Don't expect any logic in this thread.If there are not lots of deaths happening right now in their locality and they don't have the virus, then it doesn't exist in their mind.Its similar to how a baby can't conceptualise that its mother still exists when she walks out the room.
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Cancer, heart disease, diabetes and suicide are not contagious.
All of those things have some form of treatment and all of them have armys of people working on solving or curing them.
How is that unaddressed?
There is NOTHING but the DEADLY CHEMO available for CANCER and the LANCET, a highly regarded medical periodical, announced more people are killed by CHEMO than cured or helped
Diabetes is multiplying faster that an AIR BORNE VIRUS
And HEART DISEASE.... Do I need to say more
All three have been researched/studied and CURE investigated for decades with NOTHING discovered.
DIABETES foundation have collected 100 BILLION dollars since 1965 when research began
CANCER likewise has collected 100 BILLION since research on it began in the 1960s
And HEART DISEASE has gained the most income with no benefit to show
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WHO is apart of the UN and it’s a scare tactic. During Obama’s reign of terror it took him more than six months and over thousand deaths to address the H1N1 and he caught little flak from it.
i really don't want to be rude but you don't know what you're talking about...
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I won't say anything more at this point in time, you'll see for yourself this coming Monday
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What kinda virus is this? At least with the HIV virus it affected gay people and junkies!
Todays viruses... >:(
This one is a China made, Nazi like eugenics bio weapon that foregoes children, temporarily sickens young to middle aged healthy adults, and kills the elderly, those with already compromised health ("cripples"), and fatties of course.
Just like Russia allegedly helped Trump win and will try to make sure he stays in power, China has lost much because of Trump's tariffs and trade war and are now in cahoots with the Democrats and the liberal media to get rid of Trump. I think their plan got a little out of hand.
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WHO?
World Health Organization
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i really don't want to be rude but you don't know what you're talking about...
You’re not being rude but I know exactly what I’m talking about
https://pjmedia.com/trending/fact-check-obama-waited-until-millions-infected-and-1000-dead-in-u-s-before-declaring-h1n1-emergency/
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World Health Organization
WTF?
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You’re not being rude but I know exactly what I’m talking about
https://pjmedia.com/trending/fact-check-obama-waited-until-millions-infected-and-1000-dead-in-u-s-before-declaring-h1n1-emergency/
OK. Good to know. My apologies.
I do hope for the best outcome and also hope that both the US and Canada take this very seriously. Canada has just pledged 1bn for the fight against coronavirus a few minutes ago.
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You’re not being rude but I know exactly what I’m talking about
https://pjmedia.com/trending/fact-check-obama-waited-until-millions-infected-and-1000-dead-in-u-s-before-declaring-h1n1-emergency/
Here's the deal. You're seeing this fact checked and called false when the answer is kinda true and false. Obama declared swine flu a "health emergency" the day after the WHO did. I think that was in April. Obama didn't declare it a national emergency until October when over 1000 people had died. To me, it was fine how he did it and I hate Obama. The problem is today, what was fine 10 years ago is no longer so. Which is bullshit, but that's the hyper-emotional state we're living in these days.
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I'm not trying to accuse Trump. I think the USA is getting serious fast, from the facts that are trickling in. But I've been kind of waiting to hear that WHO is a liberal hoax. Personally, I don't think so.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-passes-bill-allowing-putin-085423653.html
Russia passes bill allowing Putin to stay in power past 2024
Mr.Putin will rule for another 16 years ;D
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None of those TV/media blondie's have any medical qualifications & naive people trust them .................. ::)
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My sister is a dr in Royal prince Alfred hospital Melbourne, today they tested 600 people for coronavirus.
Zero were positive.
The warmer weather and extra sunlight is keeping Australia and the southern hemisphere relatively safe from the spread right now.
If remnants of the virus survive the Northern hemisphere summer then we could see the virus re-emerge in the southern hemisphere winter.
The good thing about the panic is that in general people are taking more care with their hygiene now, so we may end up seeing a drop off in the numbers suffering from the common cold and flu.
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Italian medical chief dies from coronavirus
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World Health Organization
Created to flog pills & needles to mama Africa , huge bureaucratic BS without any scientific labs !.
Financed by Pfizer,Bayer & Co,.
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The first place I saw this virus being regularly discussed was here . You can track the evolution of the how the media covered this story with that thread, by time and date. The gp didn't need the media to whip them into a frenzy.
Agreed.
However the internet is a bigger media agent than television. Think of how Army and Gib shared legit information and also opinions of how devastating this could be.
Its really fascinating.
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at least I can still lol:
"What? It isn't casual racism. The virus originated in China. It moved from animal hosts to humans because someone in China ate a fucking pangolin. That's not just weird, it's morally wrong since pangolins are very very endangered. This is not speculation, these are facts. There's a chance it might not have been a pangolin, but it definitely came from some animal they weren't supposed to be eating."
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Agreed.
However the internet is a bigger media agent than television. Think of how Army and Gib shared legit information and also opinions of how devastating this could be.
Its really fascinating.
;)
anyone can access media & social media , don't be naive ..............they just re-report & nothing else ...........
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;)
anyone can access media & social media , don't be naive ..............they just re-report & nothing else ...........
I dont have access to a computer or phone so how do I access social media? Also i cannot read.
I am naive.
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Trump making a statement tonight
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I dont have access to a computer or phone so how do I access social media? Also i cannot read.
I am naive.
U just make me so jelous :-\
OBW, several Thai business people told me, that Chinese hotels/tours bookings stopped in December 2019, not in January 2020 !.
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anyone can access media & social media , don't be naive ..............they just re-report & nothing else ...........
You need to be able to access it, digest it, then be somewhat logical at formulating a forecast.Look at how long it took on here after the threads were made with me and gib shouting from the rooftops.I can only recall a couple of posters who outright agreed this was very serious from the outset.Same with all the conversations in person I had.A load of people thinking i was crazy a month ago now sheepishly admitting they were wrong.This same mentality was why flights were not stopped, borders not shut and mass testing not carried out a fortnight ago.If all people had to do was "re-report" then everything righted itself, then we shouldn't be in this mess no?
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This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:
“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”
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You need to be able to access it, digest it, then be somewhat logical at formulating a forecast.Look at how long it took on here after the threads were made with me and gib shouting from the rooftops.I can only recall a couple of posters who outright agreed this was very serious from the outset.Same with all the conversations in person I had.A load of people thinking i was crazy a month ago now sheepishly admitting they were wrong.This same mentality was why flights were not stopped, borders shut and mass testing carried out a fortnight ago.If all people had to do was "re-report" then everything righted itself, then we shouldn't be in this mess no?
Chinese hotel bookings allways stop for the 25th January (Chinese New Year) , this time was in December '19 !.
Not a single Western media journo who speaks local lingo was in Wuhan at that time !.
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Bats are always involved. How about leaving Bats alone?
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Italian medical chief dies from coronavirus
the number of deaths is exploding in italy :-\
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Cases in Italy will start to drop off now due to containment in a similar fashion to China.
not in the near future. China's quarantine was extreme: Welding people into their own homes etc.
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not in the near future. China's quarantine was extreme: Welding people into their own homes etc.
Not only this, in many parts food was dropped off once a week outside buildings, the building manager had to prove via tests he didn't have a temperature, wasn't sick etc, then was allowed to come out and collect food once drivers had left,and then be locked in again.Only China and NK can pull that off.
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:D
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Not only this, in many parts food was dropped off once a week outside buildings, the building manager had to prove via tests he didn't have a temperature, wasn't sick etc, then was allowed to come out and collect food once drivers had left,and then be locked in again.Only China and NK can pull that off.
I just went out and bought canned food etc. this evening. A lot of supermarket shelves were already empty.
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Protein Powder will save us!
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the number of deaths is exploding in italy :-\
The old die quickly, it skews the data. Only the very ill are iidentified and included. People who have it mildly aren't recorded in the data because they are never diagnosed.
It's like this. The virus is stupid contagious, to the point that 70% will get it. We can't stop it, only slow it down.
There are globally 100k reported cases (ballpark) when we know modelling shows millions have it right now.
So you have maybe 10% at best being included in the data set who would represent the hospitalised and really sick. Meanwhile 90% have a cold and no idea they have this virus of which even if you see a doctor if you look healthy they say you have a cold and move you along.
The globe is looking at 20% of the population (eldery) being wiped off the map. The rest of us will be fine. Financially decimated, but alive.
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You need to be able to access it, digest it, then be somewhat logical at formulating a forecast.Look at how long it took on here after the threads were made with me and gib shouting from the rooftops.I can only recall a couple of posters who outright agreed this was very serious from the outset.Same with all the conversations in person I had.A load of people thinking i was crazy a month ago now sheepishly admitting they were wrong.This same mentality was why flights were not stopped, borders not shut and mass testing not carried out a fortnight ago.If all people had to do was "re-report" then everything righted itself, then we shouldn't be in this mess no?
Your reaction to it was and still is OTT, bordering on the crazy. If you, your partner, kids etc are in a at risk group then that's somewhat understandable. Otherwise you should quit obsessing and focus more on making sure you come out on top at the end of this.
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This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:
“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”
Hahahaha fucking idiots
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The old die quickly, it skews the data. Only the very ill are iidentified and included. People who have it mildly aren't recorded in the data because they are never diagnosed.
It's like this. The virus is stupid contagious, to the point that 70% will get it. We can't stop it, only slow it down.
There are globally 100k reported cases (ballpark) when we know modelling shows millions have it right now.
So you have maybe 10% at best being included in the data set who would represent the hospitalised and really sick. Meanwhile 90% have a cold and no idea they have this virus of which even if you see a doctor if you look healthy they say you have a cold and move you along.
The globe is looking at 20% of the population (eldery) being wiped off the map. The rest of us will be fine. Financially decimated, but alive.
It's not all elderly. It will roughly be 10% to 15% dying of them if they all catch it. How soon they catch it might shift those numbers up or down too.
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Your reaction to it was and still is OTT, bordering on the crazy. If you, your partner, kids etc are in a at risk group then that's somewhat understandable. Otherwise you should quit obsessing and focus more on making sure you come out on top at the end of this.
You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?
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Ireland - cancel St Patricks Day
Chicago - doesn't. ::)
(400 000 people)
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daily dose of stupidity from the orange turd
"Trump fears emergency declaration would contradict coronavirus message"
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/trump-emergency-declaration-coronavirus-message-125902
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwzLjDUcAAQlfh.jpg)
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This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:
“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”
lol at this
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They want everyone to panic, they want the panic to tank the economy....and it is.
So, when the economy completely tanks they will fashion some ridiculous argument how it's Trumps fault because he did this or should have done that.
An since Trump "tanked the economy" (lol), then everyone should go vote for Creepy Uncle Joe the child sniffer.
This is pretty much the only hope they have to defeat Trump since their senile candidate is out there cursing at voters and calling them names
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthemostimportantnews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F04%2FCreepy-Joe-Biden-Screenshots.png&f=1&nofb=1)
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daily dose of stupidity from the orange turd
"Trump fears emergency declaration would contradict coronavirus message"
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/trump-emergency-declaration-coronavirus-message-125902
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwzLjDUcAAQlfh.jpg)
"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."
Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.
Again, do you like being played for a fool?
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This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:
“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”
Ha ha ha
Seriously!!!
Not to Bright are they.
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You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?
Serious questions.
Is this virus destroying Africa & South American Countries?
I’ve recently heard it can’t survive in temps above 25c
If this is correct as summer comes it should help kill it off.
Also do you really believe 100s of Millions will die because of this virus ?
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"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."
Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.
Again, do you like being played for a fool?
Ha ha - I’d hazard a safe guess that clearly he does enjoy being the Fool.
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Serious questions.
Is this virus destroying Africa & South American Countries?
I’ve recently heard it can’t survive in temps above 25c
If this is correct as summer comes it should help kill it off.
Also do you really believe 100s of Millions will die because of this virus ?
This is the million do!lar question.Many theorised by 26-27 degrees the virus lasts very little time on surfaces, and up to 9 days in colder climates.But the other factor is tourism, South America or Africa isn't exactly a massive tourist destination for those outside of it due to their high crime rate and poverty, so it could simply be taking longer due to less people internationally coming in from Asia or the EU.The Joe Rogan link I posted in the other thread with the infectious diseases guy, who was telling everyone in January this would happen from his models, claims temperature will have no effect.Our best guess now is to look at Australia, which has just crept up to 100 cases from only 20 a week or so ago.See where they are in a week and I think we'll have our answer.
No idea about the hundreds of millions dying, at this point it all depends on containment and if temperature has any effect, with summer coming for most of us.If it doesn't then I can't see how India, Africa and South America don't get hit way harder than anything we have seen so far.
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You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?
What was I wrong about? Most of my posts from weeks ago are what people are reposting now.
Unlike you I haven't become hysterical. You got so many things wrong it's laughable. At one time you claimed 50% of infected doctors would die. East asian genetics meant a higher percentage of them would die. Most of the your posts were incomplete or wildly inaccurate.
The funny thing is any breakdown in society that will occur is because of hysterical idiots like you. And I said 3 weeks ago. If you weren't busy being hysterical about it all you could be so easily be making all this work to your advantage.
He is in the category most likely to die from it. Naturally he'll be shitting himself.
The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh reality is that it's a necessity.
It's also taking out people with substandard lung health which is mostly heavy smokers. Sucks if that's your vice, but they made that choice so diddums.
The variance by race is minimal if none at all. But it looks like smoking might cause a significant increase, so places like China where two thirds of men are smokers will suffer the most.
If tobacco is the issue and not just smoking it then it's not looking too good for shisha users. Might actually be worse for them. Middle east is screwed
I haven't checked if people who quit smoking still have increased levels, but if that's the case then there are large numbers of people who are over 50 and quit who will be facing a double whammy.
Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
The latest from my people in China is that they have discovered that covid19 has 2 mutations S-Cov and L-Cov.
S-Cov was the likely earlier strain as it's similar to bat Coronavirus and is the milder of the 2. L-Cov is more virulent, has a higher translatability and causes more harm to the respiratory system. It may be possible to become infected by one, recover and then become infected by the other. Further mutations are also possible.
L-Cov spread more rapidly in China despite it being newer, but since early January it's been on the decline.
So what should you take away from this. You can be the type who thinks more virulent version won't hang around for much longer, the majority might end up experiencing a milder version and in a few months time people will shrug their shoulders and wonder what all the fuss was about. Or you can Army of one it and sit in a dark room with a loaded revolver ready to blow your brains out at the first sign of you developing a cough.
Those slanty eye fooks are also trying to put the idea out that the Corona virus might not have actually originated in China. Yeah right.
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This is the million do!lar question.Many theorised by 26-27 degrees the virus lasts very little time on surfaces, and up to 9 days in colder climates.But the other factor is tourism, South America or Africa isn't exactly a massive tourist destination for those outside of it due to their high crime rate and poverty, so it could simply be taking longer due to less people internationally coming in from Asia or the EU.The Joe Rogan link I posted in the other thread with the infectious diseases guy, who was telling everyone in January this would happen from his models, claims temperature will have no effect.Our best guess now is to look at Australia, which has just crept up to 100 cases from only 20 a week or so ago.See where they are in a week and I think we'll have our answer.
No idea about the hundreds of millions dying, at this point it all depends on containment and if temperature has any effect, with summer coming for most of us.If it doesn't then I can't see how India, Africa and South America don't get hit way harder than anything we have seen so far.
Australia is not a good example as it is heading into winter and temperatures are going down. It's also a massive country with wildly different temperatures. Tropical heat all year in the north and cold in the south. Also in places like Sydney, temps vary a lot from day to day. Like in summer one day can be 45 then the next day 23. I guess you can look at how many get infected in the north vs south.
Better place to look is somewhere like Cambodia or Thailand, temperature ranges between 25 at night and 35 in the day, everyday, all year. This time of year it's hitting near 40 during the day. Cambodia has only 3 cases so far, 2 were tourists, and one local who interacted with the tourist.
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What was I wrong about? Most of my posts from weeks ago are what people are reposting now.
Unlike you I haven't become hysterical. You got so many things wrong it's laughable. At one time you claimed 50% of infected doctors would die. East asian genetics meant a higher percentage of them would die. Most of the your posts were incomplete or wildly inaccurate.
The funny thing is any breakdown in society that will occur is because of hysterical idiots like you. And I said 3 weeks ago. If you weren't busy being hysterical about it all you could be so easily be making all this work to your advantage.
I never claimed 50% would die, I said 50% wouldn't be available due to quaruntine or sickness, which I clarified and you acknowledged.What you have been wrong about is that you live in some fairytale world where 2% of developed world's population could die, and 10% be hospitalised, and you think it won't have world changing knock on effects on society, the markets, infrastructure, supply chains, medical facilities,taxes etc, and it won't impact your life more than any other event so far if it plays out as it could, or even should if you look at the pure maths of it.
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This is the million do!lar question.Many theorised by 26-27 degrees the virus lasts very little time on surfaces, and up to 9 days in colder climates.But the other factor is tourism, South America or Africa isn't exactly a massive tourist destination for those outside of it due to their high crime rate and poverty, so it could simply be taking longer due to less people internationally coming in from Asia or the EU.The Joe Rogan link I posted in the other thread with the infectious diseases guy, who was telling everyone in January this would happen from his models, claims temperature will have no effect.Our best guess now is to look at Australia, which has just crept up to 100 cases from only 20 a week or so ago.See where they are in a week and I think we'll have our answer.
No idea about the hundreds of millions dying, at this point it all depends on containment and if temperature has any effect, with summer coming for most of us.If it doesn't then I can't see how India, Africa and South America don't get hit way harder than anything we have seen so far.
Cheers - Thanks for the Reply.
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Australia is not a good example as it is heading into winter and temperatures are going down. It's also a massive country with wildly different temperatures. Tropical heat all year in the north and cold in the south. Also in places like Sydney, temps vary a lot from day to day. Like in summer one day can be 45 then the next day 23. I guess you can look at how many get infected in the north vs south.
Better place to look is somewhere like Cambodia or Thailand, temperature ranges between 25 at night and 35 in the day, everyday, all year. This time of year it's hitting near 40 during the day. Cambodia has only 3 cases so far, 2 were tourists, and one local who interacted with the tourist.
Problem with Cambodia and Thailand is they live on the tourism, if there are more cases there I'm sure they are being swept under the rug as pnuemonia, as the lack of money for mass testing and fear of the loss of tourists is stronger than acknowledging the problem.
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Australia is not a good example as it is heading into winter and temperatures are going down. It's also a massive country with wildly different temperatures. Tropical heat all year in the north and cold in the south. Also in places like Sydney, temps vary a lot from day to day. Like in summer one day can be 45 then the next day 23. I guess you can look at how many get infected in the north vs south.
Better place to look is somewhere like Cambodia or Thailand, temperature ranges between 25 at night and 35 in the day, everyday, all year. This time of year it's hitting near 40 during the day. Cambodia has only 3 cases so far, 2 were tourists, and one local who interacted with the tourist.
Good points - Worth keeping a watch on the hotter countries
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It's not all elderly. It will roughly be 10% to 15% dying of them if they all catch it. How soon they catch it might shift those numbers up or down too.
I never said it was all elderly.
The elderly are the most severely affected. The elderly are the most dying. Hence, the data is being skewed by the elderly because that is who is rocking up. That's basic analytics.
The death rate will increase in the elderly as time passes if it is not contained. While hospitals can handle the volume right now, once overrun, masses will not receive treatment and more deaths will result.
But as i said, millions already have it because it might be 3+ weeks before diagnosis during which they are transmitting to the community. Yet the numbers diagnosed is super small despite widespread infection already according to the modelling.
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Perhaps we’re all going to catch that Virus & all Die
End of Humanity- Anything less than that will be a Positive Result
Let’s all go out Being Happy Then.
One thing is for certain we’re all going to Die - CoronaVirus or Not.
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Problem with Cambodia and Thailand is they live on the tourism, if there are more cases there I'm sure they are being swept under the rug as pnuemonia, as the lack of money for mass testing and fear of the loss of tourists is stronger than acknowledging the problem.
Well, when we hear reports of their hospitals overflowing with infected, then we will know there is a problem.
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Ive heard that the media made the whole thing up and it's nothing but a flu. In a month people will be complaining that the media conspired to underreport the threat.
But the best one I've heard is that it's a media/ government co-conspiracy designed to legitimize legislation to make you stay home when ordered to. The guy working at the liquor store sees through the onion of lies.
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From Iranian doctors
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but but but I have symphonies to write and I think I'll fast anyways just to be ironic
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Denmark locked down
AFTER 514 INFECTED, DENMARK GOES INTO ALMOST TOTAL LOCKDOWN - ORDER FROM THE PRIME MINISTER
>ALL SCHOOLS, DAYCARES AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS CLOSED FOR 2+ WEEKS STARTING FRIDAY, ALL PUBLIC WORKERS WITHOUT CRITICAL JOBS TO BE SENT HOME FOR 2+ WEEKS WITH PAY. ALL PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO THE SAME.
>NO EVENTS WITH 100+ PEOPLE ALLOWED
>ONLY SELECT FEW COUNTRIES ALLOWED TO BE TRAVELED TO
>ALL HOSPITAL AND NURSING HOMES ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO HAVE NO VISITORS WHAT-SO-EVER FOR 2+ WEEKS.
>ALL PUBLIC IN-DOOR LIBRARIES, CULTURE INSTITUTIONS (RELIGIOUS SHIT) AND LEISURE ACTIVITIES CLOSED FOR TWO WEEKS BY FRIDAY
>GOVERNMENT LOOKS AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING MORE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE WHEN TRAVELING TO DENMARK, SUCH AS FORCED HEALTHCHECK ON ARRIVAL, POSSIBLE FORCED QUARANTINE UPON ARRIVAL FROM RED ZONES, POSSIBLE DENIAL OF ENTRY FROM ORANGE & RED ZONES IF YOU'RE AN IMMIGRANT
>"MORE REQUIREMENTS CAN AND WILL BE PUT IN PLACE IF NECESSARY"
SOURCE: https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE12003467/danmark-lukker-guy/
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I never claimed 50% would die, I said 50% wouldn't be available due to quaruntine or sickness, which I clarified and you acknowledged.What you have been wrong about is that you live in some fairytale world where 2% of developed world's population could die, and 10% be hospitalised, and you think it won't have world changing knock on effects on society, the markets, etc, and it won't impact your life more than any other event so far if it plays out as it could, or even should if you look at the pure maths of it.
You think too short term. Do you think the current systems in place were working? The things you mention infrastructure, supply chains, medical facilities, taxes had reached a tipping point or become unsustainable. Why don't you try look at the maths there.
If this isn't a man made virus then nature has done us favour. If anything though the virus still isn't lethal enough and systems that need to change probably won't change enough.
You need to take a long term view and stop acting like it's the end of the world. The markets will be fine. It will take a beating, but this isn't a banking crisis where bailouts are needed. It will bounce back far quicker. The extra attention people will now pay to hygiene will mean cases of other bugs and virus will plummet. You would hope countries will learn lessons from this when it come to over reliance on things from China and India. Won't hold my breath on that one though.
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Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg
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Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg
That's just put an end to every pro football (soccer) league in Europe carrying on imho.Wont risk players sweating, coughing etc on each other in game, even with no crowds.
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N.J. coronavirus patient says symptoms are getting worse despite hospitalization, report says
The Fort Lee man who contracted the coronavirus is urging people to take COVID-19 seriously, telling television stations that his symptoms keep getting worse despite the fact that he is a pretty healthy person.
“They are surprised it can be so bad and I’m so young," James Cai, 32, a physician’s assistant, told ABC7.
He told the station that he believes he contracted the virus at a medical meeting at the Westin Hotel in Times Square. When he felt sick a few days later he went to urgent care and then to the emergency room, where medical staff found a small lesion on his lung and tested him for coronavirus, he told ABC7.
Health officials have said that older individuals and those with chronic medical conditions like heart disease and diabetes are at highest risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19.
But Cai told CBS he doesn’t have any risk factors and his symptoms, including fever, shortness of breath and diarrhea are “getting worse” and Hackensack University Medical Center has a bed in the ICU ready in case he needs it. He said hospital staff told him he should be OK, ABC reported.
The first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey was a 69-year-old man from Bergen County whom officials said had pre-existing health conditions. The total number of positive cases in the state increased to 15 Tuesday, and there were 20 pending tests at the state lab with another 31 people considered under investigation, New Jersey Department of Health officials said.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/nj-coronavirus-patient-says-symptoms-getting-worse-despite-hospitalization-report-says.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1BsCYWN_9oacmm-CBJEd2ivVZSBdWrhgcrCOZ9ecDyH0RLbXPL5jRdkL0
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N.J. coronavirus patient says symptoms are getting worse despite hospitalization, report says
The Fort Lee man who contracted the coronavirus is urging people to take COVID-19 seriously, telling television stations that his symptoms keep getting worse despite the fact that he is a pretty healthy person.
“They are surprised it can be so bad and I’m so young," James Cai, 32, a physician’s assistant, told ABC7.
He told the station that he believes he contracted the virus at a medical meeting at the Westin Hotel in Times Square. When he felt sick a few days later he went to urgent care and then to the emergency room, where medical staff found a small lesion on his lung and tested him for coronavirus, he told ABC7.
Health officials have said that older individuals and those with chronic medical conditions like heart disease and diabetes are at highest risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19.
But Cai told CBS he doesn’t have any risk factors and his symptoms, including fever, shortness of breath and diarrhea are “getting worse” and Hackensack University Medical Center has a bed in the ICU ready in case he needs it. He said hospital staff told him he should be OK, ABC reported.
The first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey was a 69-year-old man from Bergen County whom officials said had pre-existing health conditions. The total number of positive cases in the state increased to 15 Tuesday, and there were 20 pending tests at the state lab with another 31 people considered under investigation, New Jersey Department of Health officials said.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/nj-coronavirus-patient-says-symptoms-getting-worse-despite-hospitalization-report-says.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1BsCYWN_9oacmm-CBJEd2ivVZSBdWrhgcrCOZ9ecDyH0RLbXPL5jRdkL0
What? I thought we had already established that the Coronavirus kills fatties.
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Is there a cut and paste contest going on?
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Is there a cut and paste contest going on?
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What? I thought we had already established that the Coronavirus kills fatties.
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Godspeed SF9100. :'(
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Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg
Mario Mandzukic must be laughing on 10 million euros salary !.
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Trump just banned all EU travel to the United States.Markets are going to get hammered.
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Problem with Cambodia and Thailand is they live on the tourism, if there are more cases there I'm sure they are being swept under the rug as pnuemonia, as the lack of money for mass testing and fear of the loss of tourists is stronger than acknowledging the problem.
Thailand have massive monetary reserves, Thai baht hardly moves !.
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poor baby, blaming anyone and everyone
this leadership thing is hard, isn't it?
Trump urged Mnuchin to pressure Fed’s Powell on economic stimulus in explosive tirade about coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urged-mnuchin-to-pressure-feds-powell-on-economic-stimulus-in-explosive-tirade-about-coronavirus/ar-BB1147ft#image=1
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this fat orange crap for a face is ugly
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poor baby, blaming anyone and everyone
this leadership thing is hard, isn't it?
Trump urged Mnuchin to pressure Fed’s Powell on economic stimulus in explosive tirade about coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urged-mnuchin-to-pressure-feds-powell-on-economic-stimulus-in-explosive-tirade-about-coronavirus/ar-BB1147ft#image=1
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this fat orange crap for a face is ugly
I hope you get it soon and die. Yup. I have no problem saying this for you are a disgusting cuckold.
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"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."
Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.
Again, do you like being played for a fool?
Mr. Putin will rule Russia for another 16 years, obviously Mr.Trump & his kids will rule Americana to 2016 ;D
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Here's a conspiracy floating around.
Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.
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Here's a conspiracy floating around.
Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.
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And the other 194 countries in the world all decide to play along because....?
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Here's a conspiracy floating around.
Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.
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This is a bogus theory, my friend.
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No travel to US from Europe for 30 days. (a bit too late in the game for that now...)
The travel photo gig I was going on in April (Paris, Southern Provence, Nice and St Tropez) was cancelled last week. I and the owner of the travel agency that organized and chartered this trip will still get paid (insurance..) but the economic impact for the state of Florida will be significant. No Transatlantic cruises will be happening, I was at the Ritz Carlton on the beach for lunch today and the manager told me that they are down 78% now. He said they are going to start offering a local deal of $99 for 2 nights stay. Keep in mind spring break is going on right now and there should be NO vacancy on the beach, let alone 78% at the Ritz.
Good news is that if fears are correct, it will wipe out the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. You can expect an abundance of condos to hit the market in six months here in FL since the majority of the state is old farts.
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Tom hanks diagnosed
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8102785/Tom-Hanks-wife-Rita-Wilson-test-positive-coronavirus.html
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Tom Hanks and his wife will turn into zombies soon.
https://deadline.com/2020/03/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-test-positive-coronavirus-elvis-presley-movie-1202880431/ (https://deadline.com/2020/03/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-test-positive-coronavirus-elvis-presley-movie-1202880431/)
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Tom hanks diagnosed
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8102785/Tom-Hanks-wife-Rita-Wilson-test-positive-coronavirus.html
actors playing their role just as TPTB want them to
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No travel to US from Europe for 30 days. (a bit too late in the game for that now...)
The travel photo gig I was going on in April (Paris, Southern Provence, Nice and St Tropez) was cancelled last week. I and the owner of the travel agency that organized and chartered this trip will still get paid (insurance..) but the economic impact for the state of Florida will be significant. No Transatlantic cruises will be happening, I was at the Ritz Carlton on the beach for lunch today and the manager told me that they are down 78% now. He said they are going to start offering a local deal of $99 for 2 nights stay. Keep in mind spring break is going on right now and there should be NO vacancy on the beach, let alone 78% at the Ritz.
Good news is that if fears are correct, it will wipe out the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. You can expect an abundance of condos to hit the market in six months here in FL since the majority of the state is old farts.
I have 6-7 months before my trip to Europ
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NBA season suspended
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Basketball player Rudy Gobert has it. One expects more reports from the NBA soon :(.
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Basketball player Rudy Gobert has it. One expects more reports from the NBA soon :(.
Yup.This virus is everywhere now.
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NBA season suspended
Given that he's a big ChiCom kissass, I hope that Lebron James gets it BAD.
Fuck the NBA.
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We’re just hitting the tip of the iceberg. These next few weeks are going to be nasty.
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You're fucked.
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Trump suspends travel from Europe to battle coronavirus
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Long overdue but I fear it’s to little too late
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Long overdue but I fear it’s to little too late
I think not. CLV.
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Tom Hanks and his wife have tested positive for Coronavirus.
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I think not. CLV.
I guess time will tell. I’d prefer to be wrong
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I'm just glad Kobe didn't have to see this.
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Finger pointing and blaming won't change a thing. People in positions of leadership, including Trump, are doing the best they know how with regards to the coronavirus considering it is a situation which is new to everyone and any steps taken to control it are merely guesswork.
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Finger pointing and blaming won't change a thing. People in positions of leadership, including Trump, are doing the best they know how with regards to the coronavirus considering it is a situation which is new to everyone and any steps taken to control it are merely guesswork.
If Wuhan hadn't happened a month+ before I'd agree, we were given the blueprints, but we ignored it and dismissed the Chinese reaction as Draconian.
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Why is Trump allowing people from the UK?
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Tom Hanks and his wife will turn into zombies soon.
https://deadline.com/2020/03/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-test-positive-coronavirus-elvis-presley-movie-1202880431/ (https://deadline.com/2020/03/tom-hanks-rita-wilson-test-positive-coronavirus-elvis-presley-movie-1202880431/)
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood - like a box of chocolates - but, Houston, we have a problem.
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Tracking.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
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Well now he has more time to stream games on Twitch.
WATCH: Devin Booker Finds Out About NBA Suspended Season Live on Twitch While Playing Call of Duty: Warzone
Following the cancellation of E3, the NBA became the latest organization to take emergency action in face of the coronavirus, suspending its season until further notice. The news is currently dominating social media, but apparently hadn't made its way to Phoenix Suns star Devin Booker, who found out about the news live on Twitch while streaming Call of Duty: Warzone, the new free-to-play battle royale game on PS4, Xbox One, and PC.
While he's not busy putting the Phoenix Suns on his back, the 23-year-old shooting guard from Grand Rapids, Michigan sometimes streams himself playing games on Twitch. Tonight's stream was a pretty normal one for Booker, until he found out he won't be playing basketball anytime soon while live on the platform, in the middle of a Warzone match.
https://comicbook.com/gaming/2020/03/12/nba-season-suspended-coronavirus-devin-booker-reaction-twitch-call-of-duty-warzone/?fbclid=IwAR1kLthIHikTJZtUS3PEEOWzpujpsyW7fqpKBhS3LOkrgLL2cejjl57Pg8Y
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Perhaps we’re all going to catch that Virus & all Die
Nope.
Man made. Came from China. It turns out it targets old people and wipes them off the map.
Read the headline articles from 2017 about China.
If it was the US or France no one would believe it. But China? Surely it isn't a leap of faith to believe they were planning small, controlled population control on their mainland and now by accident it's global and fucking everybody. This is why you don't fuck with germ warefare.
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If Wuhan hadn't happened a month+ before I'd agree, we were given the blueprints, but we ignored it and dismissed the Chinese reaction as Draconian.
They made it. They know everything about it but didnt say shit to anybody because it's their own virus. So it makes sense that those who created it, reacted the fastest and in the most draconian manner.
Meanwhile the western world doesnt weld people.shut in their homes. So watchya gunna do?
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Why is Trump allowing people from the UK?
Fewer cases in the UK, but that's more by luck than design given it's an island nation.
However I'm pretty certain loads of young Italians left Italy when they knew there was a lockdown imminent and landed in places like London, so cases will spike soon.
So yeah, might not be the best move by Trump.
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Here's a conspiracy floating around.
Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.
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Trump was getting ready to steamroll Biden or Sanders. He doesn't need bullshit like this to win.
That sounds like something the corrupt democrats would do.
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Trump was getting ready to steamroll Biden or Sanders. He doesn't need bullshit like this to win.
That sounds like something the corrupt democrats would do.
Yeah, sounds like a BS theory. If anything all this Corona stuff has hurt Trump
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the fact that the WH immediately after the speech have to correct him:
1. travel band doesn’t apply to foreign nationals and their families
2. ban does not apply to goods
the speech was only 10 minutes... he can’t get it right
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Yeah, sounds like a BS theory. If anything all this Corona stuff has hurt Trump
There is no way to win on this only slow it down - after all there is no way to stop the common cold or flu. The whole idea that it's Trump's fault is ridiculous.
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From Iranian doctors
terrible
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If Wuhan hadn't happened a month+ before I'd agree, we were given the blueprints, but we ignored it and dismissed the Chinese reaction as Draconian.
You missed my point. What good does playing the blame game do now? We need to move forward and not waste time on what could have been done differently. There will be plenty of time for reflection, hopefully, after the virus is contained or better still eliminated.
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If this isn't a man made virus then nature has done us favour.
You need to take a long term view and stop acting like it's the end of the world. The markets will be fine. It will take a beating, but this isn't a banking crisis where bailouts are needed. It will bounce back far quicker. The extra attention people will now pay to hygiene will mean cases of other bugs and virus will plummet. You would hope countries will learn lessons from this when it come to over reliance on things from China and India. Won't hold my breath on that one though.
It's China made designed to resolve their massive old age issue (see articles dating 2017). It wipes out old, preserves babies, young, middle age. Schools closes but the kids heal up meanwhile retirement homes have dead everywhere, it's a pretty specific virus wouldn't you say?
Markets will be decimated, possibly to GFC lows.
Agree the bounceback will spastic fast. The opportunity coming out is massive....if you survive financially.
My own work and reaching out to colleagues in financial sectors marries up that it's a 6mth sledgehammer effect coming. The question is what does during that 6mths look like?
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You need to be able to access it, digest it, then be somewhat logical at formulating a forecast.Look at how long it took on here after the threads were made with me and gib shouting from the rooftops.I can only recall a couple of posters who outright agreed this was very serious from the outset.Same with all the conversations in person I had.A load of people thinking i was crazy a month ago now sheepishly admitting they were wrong.This same mentality was why flights were not stopped, borders not shut and mass testing not carried out a fortnight ago.If all people had to do was "re-report" then everything righted itself, then we shouldn't be in this mess no?
I guess you must be mighty proud of yourself for thinking you were right because if anyone had just listened to you, your warnings of doom and gloom would certainly have changed the course of events, and literally thousands of people would not be sick and/or dying and the economy would not be in a nose dive, right? Must feel really good to be able to say you were right. :(
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Nope.
Man made. Came from China. It turns out it targets old people and wipes them off the map.
Read the headline articles from 2017 about China.
If it was the US or France no one would believe it. But China? Surely it isn't a leap of faith to believe they were planning small, controlled population control on their mainland and now by accident it's global and fucking everybody. This is why you don't fuck with germ warefare.
You are an idiot, aren't you? What would be a motivation for this kind of nonsense? Hey, let's kill all old people? Do you know how many billions of dollars every fking country is losing by this crap storm? Do you really think that people who can make this kind of viruses, are so fking dumb that they try it like this, and completely trash economy of these xxx countries, including their own? Rule number one in the chemical warfare: DO NOT SPLASH AROUND ANY VIRUSES, WHICH CAN INFECT YOURSELF! ;D
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You are an idiot, aren't you? What would be a motivation for this kind of nonsense? Hey, let's kill all old people? Do you know how many billions of dollars every fking country is losing by this crap storm? Do you really think that people who can make this kind of viruses, are so fking dumb that they try it like this, and completely trash economy of these xxx countries, including their own? Rule number one in the chemical warfare: DO NOT SPLASH AROUND ANY VIRUSES, WHICH CAN INFECT YOURSELF! ;D
He is an idiot. And what you say likely won't register with him one bit. Some people don't get the difference between real life events and some crappy "B" science fiction movie.
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You guys really need to read. Go back. Read again.
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What if it's a biological weapon placed upon the earth by Aliens to soften us up before they attack?
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What if it's a biological weapon placed upon the earth by Aliens to soften us up before they attack?
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What if it's a biological weapon placed upon the earth by Aliens to soften us up before they attack?
If the aliens biggest weapon only kills 1% it's a pretty good chance we will win.
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If we ever get a vaccine, I think China should be forced to pay for it.
Unlikely, but it sounds good.
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:o That’s some wild shit.
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You guys really need to read. Go back. Read again.
You morons should start to understand what you read, and what you write. Go back, delete, so I don't have to read such stupidity never again?
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You morons should start to understand what you read, and what you write. Go back, delete, so I don't have to read such stupidity never again?
You need to do your homework, this basic exact virus was already made in a lab for study.Rogue elements wanting population control seems outlandish?So did 2 planes in to skyscrapers before 9/11.
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"What is happening in Italy?
Officials announced the record daily death toll in a statement on Friday.
They said the number could not be officially confirmed until health officials had "established the actual cause of death".
The national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81, with the majority suffering from underlying health problems. An estimated 72% of all those who have died were men."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51777049 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51777049)
The male life expectancy in Italy is 81.
I'm guessing if you were in your eighties or nineties, with Coronavirus, and died of old age complications you'd be counted as a Coronavirus victim. lol
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we don't know what is true and what is not. Time will tell. More sequencing analysis of the viral code needs to be done. I am not a virologist but in the bioinformatics field. As I was saying previously, it looks strange to have the RNA sequence (it's a single stranded RNA virus) so similar to the bat virus but then have exactly 12 nucleotides (which is 4 amino acids) insertion closer to the sequence end.
Could it be natural. I don't know, maybe. Again, I am not a virologist. But to claim that this is a naturally mutated bat origin virus doesn't sit well with me at the moment. Or maybe I just need to pick up a virology textbook.
There are some other points that could be coincidences, Lab 4 level in Wuhan, market in Wuhan not selling bat meat, the infection starts in Wuhan, initial pressure to keep the doctors quiet, a paper published about the 4 amino acid insertion then withdrawn, viral poly-A tail of Covid19 that's much longer (I've seen the sequence myself) then the bat's viral tail and incidentally this part is involved in infectious ability, severe response in China to the point of locking people in and threatening death sentences to non-conformers, etc...
I don't like conspiracy theories, I think it'd be better to wait and see. In the meantime protect yourself and don't mingle too much. Don't touch your face and wash your hands often. One recent American test shows that virus survives on some surfaces for up to three days. That's huge.
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"What is happening in Italy?
Officials announced the record daily death toll in a statement on Friday.
They said the number could not be officially confirmed until health officials had "established the actual cause of death".
The national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81, with the majority suffering from underlying health problems. An estimated 72% of all those who have died were men."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51777049 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51777049)
The male life expectancy in Italy is 81.
I'm guessing if you were in your eighties or nineties, with Coronavirus, and died of old age complications you'd be counted as a Coronavirus victim. lol
THIS!!! ITALY IS A COUNTRY FULL OF CUCKS TO ALLOW THEIR GOVERNEMENT TO LOCK THEMA LL DOWN LIKE THIS OVER A TOTAL NOTHING ISSUE!!! 9000 INFECRTED IN A COUNTRY OF 65 MILLION!!!! OH AND SO FAR 1000 OF THOSE HAVE RECOVERED...… HOW F#CKING GULLIBLE ARE PEOPLE IN 2020????? KEEP PANICKING YOU FAWKWITS THE PRICE OF MY JAMAICA TRIP I'M PLANNING ON TAKIN GIN APRIL KEEPS DROPPING EVERY WEEK!! :-)
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You need to do your homework, this basic exact virus was already made in a lab for study.Rogue elements wanting population control seems outlandish?So did 2 planes in to skyscrapers before 9/11.
You are going to be an expert soon buddy. Thanks for all of your hard work and information gathering!
I'm extremely worried and in panic mode as I post this.
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You are going to be an expert soon buddy. Thanks for all of your hard work and information gathering!
I'm extremely worried and in panic mode as I post this.
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Nice!
Be careful. There be E. coli in that fooking water, and parasites that travel up your pee hole.
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Nice!
Be careful. There be E. coli in that fooking water, and parasites that travel up your pee hole.
Agreed I’m in complete fear. We are all going to die. Luckily I will do so with a glass of champagne in my hand while watching the sun set on a beach.
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Seems like a lot of you Bros should still be more worried about AIDS than the corona virus...
Bench
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You are going to be an expert soon buddy. Thanks for all of your hard work and information gathering!
I'm extremely worried and in panic mode as I post this.
Serious question . . . How fucken fat are you?
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there is no panic that I see on this board at least, but for an average person, yes, you do have to keep a balance between issuing statements that will cause fear and the safety measures that need to be applied.
I'm saying that majority of people do not understand what the exponential curve of new infections curve means.
In analogy, if you were to fill a SkyDome stadium (Rogers Centre) in Toronto and start with 1 water droplet (around 0.050 grams) per minute and exponentially increase to 2 droplets the next minute, then 4 droplets the next minute and so on...guess how long it would take you to fill the stadium with water to the top?.....
40 minutes
The corona virus doubles on average every 4 days. Yesterday there were close to 900 cases in the USA, today it's 1200. This coming Monday there will be more than 2000, detected, at least. I'm not worried about old motherfuckers full of money vacationing God knows where and fucking diseased whores. I'm worried in general about human population and the inactivity of idiot Trump to contain this crisis. Even his decision from yesterday not to let European passengers but let UK travellers into the States is moronic.
Everything needs to close down for two weeks at least to flatten the exponential rate of new infections, otherwise a lot of people will get sick and fast.
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You missed my point. What good does playing the blame game do now? We need to move forward and not waste time on what could have been done differently. There will be plenty of time for reflection, hopefully, after the virus is contained or better still eliminated.
You’re such a cuck it’s unbelievable. It’s people like you that let the United States decline and take on vast demographic changes. China is responsible and in time they will pay a price.
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This is why South Korea was successful in limiting new infections. They are disciplined and closed the whole country down for some time now.
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This is why South Korea was successful in limiting new infections. They are disciplined and closed the whole country down for some time now.
yes 100% and Russia
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Serious question . . . How fucken fat are you?
J
Fairly fat by my standards, right now at least
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Your jeans must really slim your leg out.
J
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Fairly fat by my standards, right now at least
decent natural build , good effort
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Your jeans must really slim your leg out.
J
We’ll see after my vacationing. Hoping to catch the virus and shred up a a bit.
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We’ll see after my vacationing. Hoping to catch the virus and shred up a a bit.
bug chaser
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poor baby, blaming anyone and everyone
this leadership thing is hard, isn't it?
Trump urged Mnuchin to pressure Fed’s Powell on economic stimulus in explosive tirade about coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urged-mnuchin-to-pressure-feds-powell-on-economic-stimulus-in-explosive-tirade-about-coronavirus/ar-BB1147ft#image=
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this fat orange crap for a face is ugly
he's a beautiful man a regular adonis who if you saw in person you would be stunned by his magnificence.
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what are the chances that we would have a guy like him as a president and a global pandemic at the same time?
I'm starting to believe in God...
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bug chaser
More effective than clen?
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More effective than clen?
;D
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NHL suspending the 19/20 season
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finally a piece of good news, the serial Amazon jungle destroyer, Jaír Bolsonaro, President of Brazil, has tested positive for coronavirus.
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Trump met up with him very recently
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RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Cowards.
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it's like watching a nicely done soap opera
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what are the chances that we would have a guy like him as a president and a global pandemic at the same time?
I'm starting to believe in God...
what do you mean trump is practically a saint. why would god forsake him of all people.
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what do you mean trump is practically a saint. why would god forsake him of all people.
weren't his parents elders in their church.
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THIS!!! ITALY IS A COUNTRY FULL OF CUCKS TO ALLOW THEIR GOVERNEMENT TO LOCK THEMA LL DOWN LIKE THIS OVER A TOTAL NOTHING ISSUE!!! 9000 INFECRTED IN A COUNTRY OF 65 MILLION!!!! OH AND SO FAR 1000 OF THOSE HAVE RECOVERED...… HOW F#CKING GULLIBLE ARE PEOPLE IN 2020????? KEEP PANICKING YOU FAWKWITS THE PRICE OF MY JAMAICA TRIP I'M PLANNING ON TAKIN GIN APRIL KEEPS DROPPING EVERY WEEK!! :-)
If there is a travel ban, your trip to Jamaica may not happen at all or at least not in April.
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only to fire her
If God is a woman why did she make men superior?
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If God is a woman why did she make men superior?
Actually, she just made us think we were superior.
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Actually, she just made us think we were superior.
She was very convincing.
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Actually, she just made us think we were superior.
good one and true at that
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She was very convincing.
Well.....she is God afterall. :)
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Gov. Andrew Cuomo today in an interview: "As soon as those private, labs go out to test, Chris, the numbers are going to be shocking to people."
Not panicking, just sayin'
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awwww
Source stating that President Bolsonaro had tested positive is walking the story back. He is getting another test, and the first test’s results have not been released.
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from CNN
The country's slow-motion coronavirus shutdown is speeding up. Companies and organizations are making new announcements almost every minute. These are just some of the announcements from the past few hours:
Broadway is going dark.
The PGA Tour is banning fans.
The NFL is cancelling its annual meeting.
Numerous basketball tournaments are canceled.
Major League Soccer's season has been suspended.
The National Hockey League's season has been suspended.
This month's release of "A Quiet Place II" has been postponed.
The next "Fast and Furious" movie has been rescheduled for April 2021.
Some scripted television shows are pausing production. Additional talk shows are forgoing studio audiences.
The Montclair Film Festival is being rescheduled.
Jerry Seinfeld's comedy shows are being postponed.
Billy Joel's performances at Madison Square Garden are being delayed until the fall.
The Metropolitan Museum, Carnegie Hall and other New York museums are temporarily closing.
In Washington, The National Archives has canceled events through the beginning of March.
In Los Angeles, City Hall will close to all non-city hall employees.
Sunday's Democratic debate on CNN is being moved from Phoenix to Washington.
The Association of Tennis Professionals suspended the men's pro tour.
NASCAR will hold races without fans.
And within minutes of writing this post, the 2020 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony in Cleveland was postponed and Duke University suspended all athletic competition.
Ron, tell them they fearmongering.
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The mass hysteria is sickening. This will be studied for years.
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I hope hes okay.
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It's the same with many other getbiggers here. They are obsessed with trying to prove to others how deadly and dangerous it is.
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It's the same with many other getbiggers here. They are obsessed with trying to prove to others how deadly and dangerous it is.
Dangerous for people in their 80’s and 90’s. And probably to people around 60 years old that have smoked cigarettes for 40+ years.
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Monkeys terrorize city after Corona drives monkey-feeding tourists away:
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They’ve cancelled the Australian Grand Prix. The Arnold Classic will be next I predict. I really think that if it is getting cancelled to do it now rather than wait 48 hours before like the Columbus Ohio one was.
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They’ve cancelled the Australian Grand Prix. The Arnold Classic will be next I predict. I really think that if it is getting cancelled to do it now rather than wait 48 hours before like the Columbus Ohio one was.
Cancelled completely... or just no audience allowed?
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Cancelled completely... or just no audience allowed?
Problem i see now is no sporting organisation wants to allow athletes to compete, then later find out one of them had corona and spread it, and risk being sued.Why I can't see any sport league continuing, even behind closed doors.Dehydrated bodybuilder collapsing from corona?not a good look.
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from CNN
The country's slow-motion coronavirus shutdown is speeding up. Companies and organizations are making new announcements almost every minute. These are just some of the announcements from the past few hours:
Broadway is going dark.
The PGA Tour is banning fans.
The NFL is cancelling its annual meeting.
Numerous basketball tournaments are canceled.
Major League Soccer's season has been suspended.
The National Hockey League's season has been suspended.
This month's release of "A Quiet Place II" has been postponed.
The next "Fast and Furious" movie has been rescheduled for April 2021.
Some scripted television shows are pausing production. Additional talk shows are forgoing studio audiences.
The Montclair Film Festival is being rescheduled.
Jerry Seinfeld's comedy shows are being postponed.
Billy Joel's performances at Madison Square Garden are being delayed until the fall.
The Metropolitan Museum, Carnegie Hall and other New York museums are temporarily closing.
In Washington, The National Archives has canceled events through the beginning of March.
In Los Angeles, City Hall will close to all non-city hall employees.
Sunday's Democratic debate on CNN is being moved from Phoenix to Washington.
The Association of Tennis Professionals suspended the men's pro tour.
NASCAR will hold races without fans.
And within minutes of writing this post, the 2020 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony in Cleveland was postponed and Duke University suspended all athletic competition.
Ron, tell them they fearmongering.
It is the beginning of March. Does this mean March 2021 or did they mean to say April?
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It's the same with many other getbiggers here. They are obsessed with trying to prove to others how deadly and dangerous it is.
The way I look at it, I have a couple of choices. One is to continue my healthy lifestyle which includes going to the gym most days or I can sit at home in fear of catching it because at my age I have an 8% chance of dying from it.
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RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Cowards.
I can't die now. I HAVEN'T LIVED!!!
Buying another freezer today. My post apocalyptic supervillain name is Mr. Stache.
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Lindsey Gayham is self quarantining, apparently coronavirus can be transmitted anally
he got it from the orange turds corrupt country club, probably negotiated to be bent over to "sway his vote"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-lindsey-graham-says-he-is-self-quarantining-after-mar-a-lago-trip-as-he-awaits-coronavirus-test-results/ar-BB116R7C
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Epic oval office address by the "savior of the GOP" that needed several corrections.
"President Donald Trump’s Oval Office address Wednesday evening was supposed to calm concerns
about the spread of the coronavirus. Instead, it sparked panic and confusion.
Not just among the markets, U.S. travelers, and international leaders but within his own administration, as well."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-coronavirus-oval-office-speech-on-europe-travel-ban-sparks-total-chaos-in-his-own-administration
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a big fat embarrassment to the USA
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I can't die now. I HAVEN'T LIVED!!!
Buying another freezer today. My post apocalyptic supervillain name is Mr. Stache.
I thought I read 'somewhere' that fasting is the way to fight off viruses and infections.
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Well thats the end of the english premier league this year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8107013/Arsenal-manager-Mikel-Arteta-tests-POSITIVE-coronavirus.html
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I thought I read 'somewhere' that fasting is the way to fight off viruses and infections.
Ha, Dr Meathead from The Getbig Clinic? I haven't seen anything to suggest that starving people have stronger immune systems.
I'm a high dose vit c believer, fwiw. Studies show etc.
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Ha, Dr Meathead from The Getbig Clinic? I haven't seen anything to suggest that starving people have stronger immune systems.
I'm a high dose vit c believer, fwiw. Studies show etc.
There was a who thread about it on Getbig. Supposedly fasting gets rid of toxins in your body. I've made it to 75 without fasting. I'm probably not going to start doing it now.
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Cancelled completely... or just no audience allowed?
Cancelled. I think they have tested a couple of the drivers.
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I went to the gym today.
I probably contracted COVID 19
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I went to the gym today.
I probably contracted COVID 19
If getting it results in immunity. It is probably better to get it while you're young. Much like the chicken pox.
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I went to the gym today.
I probably contracted COVID 19
I go everyday and I can’t help but touch my sweating face. I can’t break this habit.
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Who here listens to sean hannity (orange turd's ass)
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Is COVID-19 still a hoax?
If Sean Hannity Thinks Coronavirus Panic Is a 'Hoax,' How Many Millions of His Listeners Do Too?
Jeremy W. Peters and Michael M. Grynbaum
The New York TimesMarch 12, 2020, 8:05 AM EDT
Sean Hannity used his syndicated talk-radio program Wednesday to share a prediction he had found on Twitter about what is really happening with the coronavirus: It’s a “fraud” by the deep state to spread panic in the populace, manipulate the economy and suppress dissent.
“May be true,” Hannity declared to millions of listeners around the country.
As the coronavirus spreads around the globe, denial and disinformation about the risks are proliferating on media outlets popular with conservatives.
“This coronavirus?” Rush Limbaugh asked skeptically during his Wednesday program. “All of this panic is just not warranted.”
The Fox Business anchor Trish Regan told viewers Monday that the worry over coronavirus “is yet another attempt to impeach the president.”
Where doctors and scientists see a public health crisis, President Donald Trump and his media allies see a political coup afoot.
Even on Wednesday night, after Trump gave an unusually somber address to the nation in which he announced he was suspending all travel from Europe for 30 days, Hannity criticized Democrats and vigorously defended the president’s response to the crisis, saying that when he instituted travel restrictions on China more than a month ago, “no president had ever acted that fast.”
Distorted realities and discarded facts are now such a part of everyday life that the way they shape events like impeachment, a mass shooting or a presidential address often goes unmentioned.
But when partisan news meets a pandemic, the information silos where people shelter themselves can become not just deluded but also dangerous, according to those who criticize conservative commentators for shedding any semblance of objectivity when it comes to covering the president.
“This sort of media spin poses a clear and present danger to public health,” said Charlie Sykes, a longtime conservative host and author who published a book, “How the Right Lost Its Mind,” in 2018. “If you have people out there who feel all of this is overblown, and feel the need to act out their lack of concern by not taking precautions, it could be exceptionally dangerous.
“That’s not just a problem for the right wing, that becomes a real threat to the general population,” added Sykes, who is also a contributor to MSNBC. “When people start dying, the entertainment value wears off.”
In the case of Fox News viewers and talk radio listeners, who tend to be older than the general population, the danger of playing down the threat is potentially far worse. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has specifically identified older people as being at higher risk from serious complications if they contract the virus. Nielsen, the TV ratings agency, lists the average age of a Fox News viewer as 65 years old.
Despite Hannity’s own skeptical commentary, his Tuesday show featured Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as a guest. He told Hannity that he wanted to “make sure” viewers knew that the coronavirus “is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu — you got to make sure that people understand that.”
It was not difficult to see why Fauci would think Hannity’s roughly 4 million viewers — the biggest audience in cable news — might not understand. On Tuesday, the star anchor told his viewers, effectively, to relax.
“Sadly, these viruses pop up time to time,” Hannity said, with the certitude of a medical professional. “Pandemics happen, time to time.”
Limbaugh has offered clinical advice of his own. Recently he defended his widely criticized comparison of the coronavirus to the common cold and suggested the timing of the coverage of the outbreak raised “a gigantic series of question marks and red flags.”
And not all the prominent players in conservative opinion are denying the seriousness of the threat. Disagreement on the right has spilled into public view in a way that is unusual, given how swiftly dissent is often punished by Trump and his media loyalists.
“It’s a matter of public health. How can these shills face their followers after all the lies and deceit?” asked Michael Savage, the radio host and author who was one of Trump’s earliest supporters in conservative media and urged him to run for president in 2011.
“Are these mouthpieces without any social conscience?” added Savage, who called the words of Limbaugh and others “criminal negligence.”
Speaking on his Monday Fox News show, Tucker Carlson seemed to speak directly to skeptics like the president and Hannity, whose prime-time program follows his. “People you trust, people you probably voted for, have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem,” Carlson said, adding: “People you know will get sick, some may die. This is real.”
Trump pays close attention to Carlson’s show, and the two are in regular contact by phone. Earlier this year, the anchor was credited with helping persuade the president to dial back his hawkish approach on Iran — and Carlson’s words on the virus this week were interpreted as a message aimed at the White House.
There are also signs that political views affect how seriously someone takes the public health risk posed by the virus.
A Reuters poll last week found that roughly 4 in 10 Democrats believed the coronavirus was an imminent threat — but only 2 in 10 Republicans felt the same way. And Americans who approve of the way the president is handling his job are far more likely to believe that the government can stop a nationwide epidemic from occurring than those who disapprove, the poll said.
Seventy-nine percent of those who gave Trump high job approval ratings said they were very or somewhat confident in the government’s ability to prevent the outbreak from becoming much worse, compared with only 39% of those who disapprove of him, according to a CNN poll conducted last week.
At times, there has been a jarring split screen between the president’s nonchalance and the sober warnings of the nation’s top health officials, who have been more aggressive about warning certain vulnerable populations not to travel.
Asked Wednesday at the White House what he had to say to those concerned he is not taking the situation seriously enough, Trump offered a tart, terse reply: “Fake news,” the president snapped, before dismissing reporters from the room.
The fallout from the president’s handling of the crisis might have been more easily dismissed as liberal, anti-Trump paranoia if not for an improbable twist of events. A person infected with the coronavirus attended one of the conservative world’s biggest annual gatherings last week, the Conservative Political Action Conference, leading some politicians like Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas to voluntarily quarantine themselves.
Before this person’s status was made public — he was a VIP attendee who purchased a $5,750 “gold” package that granted him access to backstage reception rooms where members of Congress and other high-profile figures mingled — conservatives at the conference were accusing the president’s enemies of inflating the seriousness of the outbreak.
The former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, speaking from the conference stage last Friday, insisted falsely that the media had only just started paying attention to the coronavirus after the impeachment trial ended. And the reason, he added, was “they think this is going to be what brings down the president.”
But over the next few days, CPAC’s organizers were pelted with questions from fellow conservatives, some of whom said they shook the infected guest’s hand, about why they had been left in the dark.
Suddenly the “hoax,” as Hannity and others have called the response to the virus, hit home.
Raheem Kassam, a former Breitbart News editor, was one of several conservative activists who attended CPAC and expressed frustration about how the group handled the incident. Kassam, who said he felt sick over the weekend and on social media chronicled his frustrated attempts to obtain a coronavirus test, knew that he might have been exposed only after someone who works in the office of a member of Congress who was also exposed contacted him.
“I think there’s a grown-up conversation to be had about what happened,” Kassam said in an interview, adding that he did not believe that some conservatives wanted to have that conversation now. “Imagine being that sick, and then finding out why I might be that sick in a thirdhand way. I was angry. I was frustrated. I was scared,” he added.
But the president’s allies have attacked Kassam, accusing him of sowing panic when there are no other known cases to come out of the conference.
Matt Schlapp, president of CPAC, who has sequestered himself at home because he also shook the infected attendee’s hand, appeared on Fox News in recent days to malign the media for exaggerating the threat.
And though he acknowledged in a subsequent interview that he had no medical training, he has made claims about the coronavirus and its apparent lack of contagiousness.
“It’s actually hard to get,” he said on Fox News on Wednesday, speaking via Skype from his home, where he still has a few days left in his self-imposed quarantine.
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And they counted them all...FTN.
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Who here listens to sean hannity (orange turd's ass)
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I tried to one time, but I kept having to leave the room to go throw up in the toilet. Does he have this effect on other people?
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I tried to one time, but I kept having to leave the room to go throw up in the toilet. Does he have this effect on other people?
You have a similar effect on most getbiggers. ;)
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I tried to one time, but I kept having to leave the room to go throw up in the toilet. Does he have this effect on other people?
I'm a card-carrying member of the Constitution Party, and I can't stand him.
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I tried to one time, but I kept having to leave the room to go throw up in the toilet. Does he have this effect on other people?
And I bet you feel a fart is a wish your anus makes.
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So do you think banning europeans to travel to the US will stop the coronavirus or will they need to do something more drastic like closing down the gyms?
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It's barn door/ bolted horse foolish. He just wants to be able to say later that he took action. Political effect. Practical effect: 0.0.
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Which getbigger is this?
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finally a piece of good news, the serial Amazon jungle destroyer, Jaír Bolsonaro, President of Brazil, has tested positive for coronavirus.
STOP BS , this is not Serbian site !.
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RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Cowards.
I am hiding in Patong beach Thailand ;D
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You have a similar effect on most getbiggers. ;)
Good. That's what I've been striving for.
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And I bet you feel a fart is a wish your anus makes.
My anus does not make wishes. I do though. And I wish your next fart turns out to be a pile of shit. Oh wait, you're used to that happening.
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a big fat embarrassment to the USA
deart shame Mr.Trump with yours most muscular pose pics, vacuum pose pics would be good too.
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indeed
seems to ignore the fact that London airports are the among the busiest interconnecting points in the world and may act as a super exchange
Bravo to BREXIT Britany, EU must be fuming :D
WHO is laughing now ;D
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We’ll see after my vacationing. Hoping to catch the virus and shred up a a bit.
We all hope you get the virus too.
J
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Melbourne Formula One Grand Prix race is cancelled.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/stocks-collapse-coronavirus-global-pandemic-live-200312235606108.html
Recovered patients exceed newly diagnosed in S. Korea
lowest number of new cases in three weeks recorded.
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I’d be willing to bet Tony huge will contract it and perhaps die.
J
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/stocks-collapse-coronavirus-global-pandemic-live-200312235606108.html
Recovered patients exceed newly diagnosed in S. Korea
lowest number of new cases in three weeks recorded.
High survival rate for skinny people. Fatties are doomed.
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All UK soccer ball match ups are cancelled for 3 weeks
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STOP BS , this is not Serbian site !.
Serbs don't know what the truth is.
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Anarchy is about to break out in parts of Italy, and Italy is usually at the top of the list for highest iq in Europe, higher than USA even.
Italians are very high IQ, yes, but they are also very crazy under stressful situations, their Roman empire/crazy DNA is kicking in
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I get the feeling that Getbiggers are not taking this seriously.
I've yet to read a single word about how you are prepping for what's ahead of us. Instead you're joking, making fun of it, think everything is going to be normal, gyms not gonna close they just be less crowded... it will only affect old people etc etc
How you think closing flights from every country on the planet will affect the tourist economy? Just one example
When other countries tell their people to stay home and not go to work when sick, you think americans can afford to stay home?
They will go to work as usual, and spread the virus.
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I get the feeling that Getbiggers are not taking this seriously.
I've yet to read a single word about how you are prepping for what's ahead of us. Instead you're joking, making fun of it, think everything is going to be normal, gyms not gonna close they just be less crowded... it will only affect old people etc etc
How you think closing flights from every country on the planet will affect the tourist economy? Just one example
When other countries tell their people to stay home and not go to work when sick, you think americans can afford to stay home?
They will go to work as usual, and spread the virus.
It's not that we aren't taking it seriously but that we realize the irrational panic taking place. Look at the numbers from the H1N1 flu virus a decade ago and compare.
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https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1238422628349743104?s=20
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It's not that we aren't taking it seriously but that we realize the irrational panic taking place. Look at the numbers from the H1N1 flu virus a decade ago and compare.
What irrational panic?
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What irrational panic?
Just read this whole thread.
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Just read this whole thread.
No thanks.
But talking about irrational panic sounds like something a person not taking it seriously would do.
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No thanks.
But talking about irrational panic sounds like something a person not taking it seriously would do.
Shutting down everything when a handful of people have died is irrational.
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Shutting down everything when a handful of people have died is irrational.
What do you suggest Italy should've done instead?
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What do you suggest Italy should've done instead?
I'm talking about the U.S. I could care less what Italy does.
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I'm talking about the U.S. I could care less what Italy does.
Right so in other words you dont know what you're talking about. You haven't followed the spread of the virus, you're uneducated and ignorant.
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Right so in other words you dont know what you're talking about. You haven't followed the spread of the virus, you're uneducated and ignorant.
And you are a coward worrying about a virus that isn't half as bad as several other viruses in the last 20 years. Go hide in your cave chicken little.
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Chuck Norris has the corona virus. The virus is now quarantined for two weeks :)
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And you are a coward worrying about a virus that isn't half as bad as several other viruses in the last 20 years. Go hide in your cave chicken little.
Which viruses would that be?
Can you name one time in modern history when a virus had this effect on the world as a whole?
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Which viruses would that be?
Can you name one time in modern history when a virus had this effect on the world as a whole?
In terms of panic or death? We've had multiple pandemics with a million plus deaths worldwide in modern times. We've never had this sort of panic because as times have progressed, our penchant for irrational behavior has accelerated.
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the usual mental cases on this board are complaining how everyone is panicking. That's like a bipolar person saying all the specialists he's seen are wrong about his diagnosis and he doesn't need therapy, while self-medicating with drugs and alcohol.
Go suck trump's mini-pole
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orange retard is scared to go for a test, so he's infecting the whole White House. This is like a divine intervention. Thank you, Gaia.
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Which viruses would that be?
Can you name one time in modern history when a virus had this effect on the world as a whole?
err things didnt have this effect because we didnt have worldwide media coverage and the internet, most things happened without 99% of the world knowing
Imagine if you lived on a farm in the wilds of Canada with no internet or TV, how much would this coronavirus would you know about?
Do you think Pygmies in the Rain forest are panicking about the coronavirus?
Its not the virus thats the problem, its the mass hysteria
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In terms of panic or death? We've had multiple pandemics with a million plus deaths worldwide in modern times. We've never had this sort of panic because as times have progressed, our penchant for irrational behavior has accelerated.
Yeah we had influenza a couple of times 50-60 years ago, is that what you're refering to?
What is this irrational behaviour you're talking about?
Was it irrational for Russia to close their borders as early as January or should they've kept open borders like Italy?
Once the virus spreads, like in Italy, what do you suggest should be done?
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err things didnt have this effect because we didnt have worldwide media coverage and the internet, most things happened without 99% of the world knowing
Imagine if you lived on a farm in the wilds of Canada with no internet or TV, how much would this coronavirus would you know about?
Do you think Pygmies in the Rain forest are panicking about the coronavirus?
Its not the virus thats the problem, its the mass hysteria
What mass hysteria?
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A senior member of the Australian government, home affairs minister Peter Dutton, has tested positive for coronavirus, he said on Friday. Mr Dutton recently travelled to Washington DC for a meeting on child sexual exploitation. While there, he met President Trump's daughter, Ivanka.
Getting interesting again as the day advances. I love Friday, the 13th, nights.
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On another note, did Ivanka have breast implants, or are those natural Trump bags?
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What mass hysteria?
hahah fucking world is coming to a standstill, the only thing this virus will do is cripple people financially, which to be honest is probably the end goal
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hahah fucking world is coming to a standstill, the only thing this virus will do is cripple people financially, which to be honest is probably the end goal
You reckon it would be better if the world didn't do anything?
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Maybe you guys are right, maybe we the world should do nothing.
I will have to wait for Army of Ones opinion on this!
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hahah fucking world is coming to a standstill, the only thing this virus will do is cripple people financially, which to be honest is probably the end goal
It's not mass hysteria, these are preventive measures to stop the exponential growth of new infections throughout the world in order to flatten the curve. Right now, the curve is going up almost vertically.
Do you need a drawing smarty-pants?
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You reckon it would be better if the world didn't do anything?
well thousands die every year from regular flu and no one really gives a fuck about that
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well thousands die every year from regular flu and no one really gives a fuck about that
yes, researchers and doctors do give a fuck. It's just that the virus is mutating constantly and we do not have an effective vaccine that lasts more than a month at best. Also, as I said a million times, death rates from coronavirus are 30-50 times the death rates of flu.
And yes, people still care about other diseases.
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Not just that we don't have a cure for it yet, it spreads like a mofo!
And you don't know it until it's too late.
Definitely more troublesome than a mere "flu".
Especially with the mutations.
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yes, researchers and doctors do give a fuck. It's just that the virus is mutating constantly and we do not have an effective vaccine that lasts more than a month at best. Also, as I said a million times, death rates from coronavirus are 30-50 times the death rates of flu.
And yes, people still care about other diseases.
I mean its not like coronavirus is the only pathogen affecting peoples health. We have a perfect storm brewing and just like the spanish flu we have yet again a global crisis we are totally not equipped to deal with.
Lets pray the virus doesnt mutate into some kind of even deadlier strain like the spanish flu did. Im somewhat terrified that that is exactly whats going to happen. The virus can live for 5 weeks in a host scares the fuck out of me. I had a conversation with a friend a few months ago.and i remember telling him not to worry about ebola it was hiv or something similar we need to worry about. If hiv became airborne we would be finished. And here we have not quite airborne hiv but something similar. If it mutates and becomes worse we are all gonna die.
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Yeah we had influenza a couple of times 50-60 years ago, is that what you're refering to?
Already posted elsewhere that the US had Swine Flu(H1N1) , only ten years ,ago. The general public seems to have forgotten that rather quickly.
"“These are deaths of young adults and children. It is different from seasonal influenza.”
H1N1 killed 282 U.S. children in 2009-2010, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.
CDC says H1N1 infected 61 million Americans during the pandemic and killed around 12,000.
https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478 (https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478)
As long as the virus limits itself to knocking off old codgers and spares the young and the healthy , quite a few people won't be losing too much sleep over it.
The economy ,for a while,might benefit too with inheritances being transferred to younger more productive society members of society and fewer old people claiming pensions or wastefully whittling down of their assets , through ,say, medical bills or nursing home costs.
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I mean its not like coronavirus is the only pathogen affecting peoples health. We have a perfect storm brewing and just like the spanish flu we have yet again a global crisis we are totally not equipped to deal with.
Lets pray the virus doesnt mutate into some kind of even deadlier strain like the spanish flu did. Im somewhat terrified that that is exactly whats going to happen. The virus can live for 5 weeks in a host scares the fuck out of me. I had a conversation with a friend a few months ago.and i remember telling him not to worry about ebola it was hiv or something similar we need to worry about. If hiv became airborne we would be finished. And here we have not quite airborne hiv but something similar. If it mutates and becomes worse we are all gonna die.
Covid19 mutated months ago in China. There are currently 2 strains. One is milder. We don't know yet which one is where or if both are doing the rounds in certain places.
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Yes I forgot about the swineflu!
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Lets pray the virus doesnt mutate into some kind of even deadlier strain like the spanish flu did. Im somewhat terrified that that is exactly whats going to happen. The virus can live for 5 weeks in a host scares the fuck out of me. I had a conversation with a friend a few months ago.and i remember telling him not to worry about ebola it was hiv or something similar we need to worry about. If hiv became airborne we would be finished. And here we have not quite airborne hiv but something similar. If it mutates and becomes worse we are all gonna die.
Who knows? Perhaps it's smart not to close schools and universities. Let children and teens develop some sort of immunity to it ,before a vaccine is found.
The Spanish flu came in two waves. The first ,in 1917, one killed the old and the weak ,like traditional common flu. The second deadlier wave in 1918 killed young ,healthy people in their millions.
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High survival rate for skinny people. Fatties are doomed.
Large people are more prone to breathing problems.
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Yeah we had influenza a couple of times 50-60 years ago, is that what you're refering to?
What is this irrational behaviour you're talking about?
Was it irrational for Russia to close their borders as early as January or should they've kept open borders like Italy?
Once the virus spreads, like in Italy, what do you suggest should be done?
We've had flu pandemics that have killed a million plus in the last 50-60 years. We had AIDS. Swine flu killed 500k worldwide. The irrational behavior is the runs on the grocery stores, the hoarding of supplies, the boycotting of any restaurant that's Asian. This is being covered like nothing I've ever seen. Trump even had to declare national emergency after 40 people died. Total joke. Obama did it after 1000 died and there was no problem. Everything is going to kill us, net neutrality, tax cuts, climate change, Iran. Everything is hyped to the max and when it passes without much effect, it's on to the next potential armageddon.
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We've had flu pandemics that have killed a million plus in the last 50-60 years. We had AIDS. Swine flu killed 500k worldwide. The irrational behavior is the runs on the grocery stores, the hoarding of supplies, the boycotting of any restaurant that's Asian. This is being covered like nothing I've ever seen. Trump even had to declare national emergency after 40 people died. Total joke. Obama did it after 1000 died and there was no problem. Everything is going to kill us, net neutrality, tax cuts, climate change, Iran. Everything is hyped to the max and when it passes without much effect, it's on to the next potential armageddon.
The media loves these stories because it increases ratings. "Experts" love these media stories because they get facetime on t.v.
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I get the feeling that Getbiggers are not taking this seriously.
I've yet to read a single word about how you are prepping for what's ahead of us. Instead you're joking, making fun of it, think everything is going to be normal, gyms not gonna close they just be less crowded... it will only affect old people etc etc
How you think closing flights from every country on the planet will affect the tourist economy? Just one example
When other countries tell their people to stay home and not go to work when sick, you think americans can afford to stay home?
They will go to work as usual, and spread the virus.
A person can think or even dwell on the situations you mention. There is very little if anything most of us can do about it. So honest'y wants the point?
Everything isn't normal already.
When gyms close, we won't go.
This virus is greatly more deadly to older people and the infirmed.
The economy is already affected and likely to get worse. Do you have a fix?
If your work place closes it's doors, you won't go to work even if you cannot afford to miss work. It's that simple.
The virus will run it's course regardless of what you do or don't do.
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I get the feeling that Getbiggers are not taking this seriously.
I've yet to read a single word about how you are prepping for what's ahead of us. Instead you're joking, making fun of it, think everything is going to be normal, gyms not gonna close they just be less crowded... it will only affect old people etc etc
How you think closing flights from every country on the planet will affect the tourist economy? Just one example
When other countries tell their people to stay home and not go to work when sick, you think americans can afford to stay home?
They will go to work as usual, and spread the virus.
A person can think or even dwell on the situations you mention. There is very little if anything most of us can do about it. So honest'y wants the point?
Everything isn't normal already.
When gyms close, we won't go.
This virus is greatly more deadly to older people and the infirmed.
The economy is already affected and likely to get worse. Do you have a fix?
If your work place closes it's doors, you won't go to work even if you cannot afford to miss work. It's that simple.
The virus will run it's course regardless of what you do or don't do.
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A person can think or even dwell on the situations you mention. There is very little if anything most of us can do about it. So honest'y wants the point?
Everything isn't normal already.
When gyms close, we won't go.
This virus is greatly more deadly to older people and the infirmed.
The economy is already affected and likely to get worse. Do you have a fix?
If your work place closes it's doors, you won't go to work even if you cannot afford to miss work. It's that simple.
The virus will run it's course regardless of what you do or don't do.
Good post
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It seems that the people who've had it must far outweigh the ones recorded, so the death % must me tiny. In the UK they've stopped testing, so the majority of people with mild symptoms won't even contact the authorities.
My wife is a hypochondriac, so this shit is annoying me lol.
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Good post
Not really, it was so shitty I didnt even bother to respond.
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It seems that the people who've had it must far outweigh the ones recorded, so the death % must me tiny. In the UK they've stopped testing, so the majority of people with mild symptoms won't even contact the authorities.
My wife is hypochondriac, so this shit is annoying me lol.
They guess it's around 1% which is what I told everyone on here weeks ago
Worst case scenario I'd go with 5%. More likely it will be between 1 and 2%
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Not really, it was so shitty I didnt even bother to respond.
Old Saggy is panicking ;D
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'I don't take responsibility at all' - the Trump presidency summarized
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-testing-128971
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'I don't take responsibility at all' - the Trump presidency summarized
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-testing-128971
(https://i.redd.it/j59as7kl3ml41.jpg)
Some people feel like they must say something, even when they have no idea what they are talking about. I think there is a lot of pressure on Trump to step up and put people's minds at ease. Ultimately, telling us untruths will probably make matters worse. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now.
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orange retard is scared to go for a test, so he's infecting the whole White House. This is like a divine intervention. Thank you, Gaia.
Idiot !.
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'I don't take responsibility at all' - the Trump presidency summarized
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-testing-128971
(https://i.redd.it/j59as7kl3ml41.jpg)
You truly are a twatling. It is my most fervent desire that you contract this in the worst possible way and pass on in agony. Yup.
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You truly are a twatling. It is my most fervent desire that you contract this in the worst possible way and pass on in agony. Yup.
Legit LOL. :D
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You truly are a twatling. It is my most fervent desire that you contract this in the worst possible way and pass on in agony. Yup.
;D- ;D- ;D
He could be ex White House employee :D
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Moronic Kite, Twat-tle and the one that doesn't deserve to be named Scott will soon eat all the shit they have excrement-ed in this thread. Watch it happen in a few days. It's going to be a delight, even though I do not enjoy seeing people getting sick and dying.
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Moronic Kite, Twat-tle and the one that doesn't deserve to be named Scott will soon eat all the shit they have excrement-ed in this thread. Watch it happen in a few days. It's going to be a delight, even though I do not enjoy seeing people getting sick and dying.
Hmmm..."God of Justice"? More like god of just us. FTN.
Look kiddo, none of us here really knows what to expect of another here should ever we meet. In your case I could give an intercourse. I have zero patience with moral quislings of your kind. I would guess you fancy yourself quite the Hominterm.
You deserve that which is coming for you. Doubtless you shall welcome it with open cheeks. Run along before I decide to use "big" words on you. Foul cretinous cuckold that you appear to be.
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My anus does not make wishes. I do though. And I wish your next fart turns out to be a pile of shit. Oh wait, you're used to that happening.
It must hurt to be so linguistically inadequate. Bereft of not only wit and wisdom, but the common sense not to engage in a war of words...nay...a battle of the brains...no...trying to make a mental incompetent look like one.
I will never know such pain as I may be ignorant but I am far from stoopid. Like you. And Straw.
To name but two.
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It must hurt to be so linguistically inadequate. Bereft of not only wit and wisdom, but the common sense not to engage in a war of words...nay...a battle of the brains...no...trying to make a mental incompetent look like one.
I will never know such pain as I may be ignorant but I am far from stoopid. Like you. And Straw.
To name but two.
You are far from "stoopid"? Actually you are too stupid to know that you are not there yet. You are at war with words which is why you make them up so often.
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My doctor's office sent out a notice to all patients telling them if they feel sick, they should reschedule their appointments for two weeks hence. What??? Oh, and the notice also says they don't have the test for the coronavirus.
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My doctor's office sent out a notice to all patients telling them if they feel sick, they should reschedule their appointments for two weeks hence. What??? Oh, and the notice also says they don't have the test for the coronavirus.
They must have meant sickness from cold/fly (corona) type symptoms. There is no point testing for Corona anymore as if you have symptoms you isolate regardless.
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My doctor's office sent out a notice to all patients telling them if they feel sick, they should reschedule their appointments for two weeks hence. What??? Oh, and the notice also says they don't have the test for the coronavirus.
They can't have coronafolk walking around infecting others, especially them, because they're really going to be in demand later. And they simply can't see to every 'bit of a cough' minor case. They have to reserve their expertise for life or death matters.
If you think that's bad wait until most of the life of death people get sent home because there aren't enough machines or people to help them.
The moral of the story is that you're on your own. If you're an at risk person, which you are Prime, don't fucking catch it. Go Full Hermit for awhile. Imo you shouldn't be going to the supermarket at all at this point.
I'm preaching the same to my parents. They probably won't be sufficiently cautious either, by which I mean Howard Hughes paranoid for a few weeks to see what eventuates. I think a lot of people in your age group are going to die. You don't want to be one.
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They can't have coronafolk walking around infecting others, especially them, because they're really going to be in demand later. And they simply can't see to every 'bit of a cough' minor case. They have to reserve their expertise for life or death matters.
If you think that's bad wait until most of the life of death people get sent home because there aren't enough machines or people to help them.
The moral of the story is that you're on your own. If you're an at risk person, which you are Prime, don't fucking catch it. Go Full Hermit for awhile. Imo you shouldn't be going to the supermarket at all at this point.
I'm preaching the same to my parents. They probably won't be sufficiently cautious either, by which I mean Howard Hughes paranoid for a few weeks to see what eventuates. I think a lot of people in your age group are going to die. You don't want to be one.
At last notice, it was 8% of the people in my age group who actually get the coronavirus. No one has said what percentage will catch it. If it means anything, I did not go to the gym today. I wish I could use the coronavirus as an excuse, but the truth is I just didn't feel like working out....not that I feel sick.
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Maybe this is why they want to clear the streets in the EU. Is the virus just a diversion for something bigger?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/us-troops-arrive-in-germany-for-defender-europe-20-military-maneuvers/a-52458535
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This is far worse than the flu. Brand new virus, little if any immunity and as of yet no cure.
Johnny Cash’s “WHEN THE MAN COMES AROUND” comes to mind.😱😫
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Wife had 2nd visit to the medical centre. Same symptoms as corona. First time they said it was bronchitis. Now they say whooping cough. They refuse to test for corona. We live in the most affluent area in the city.
But yet we have hardly any cases.... ::)
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At last notice, it was 8% of the people in my age group who actually get the coronavirus. No one has said what percentage will catch it. If it means anything, I did not go to the gym today. I wish I could use the coronavirus as an excuse, but the truth is I just didn't feel like working out....not that I feel sick.
Jesus, stay out of the gym! Am I being trolled here? STAY IN UR HOUSE!
Google some calisthenics. All you need is the ground and a tree branch. Probably be more taxing than the exercises you're accustomed to in the gym.
Just give it 4 weeks of crazy caution and total avoidance of public places. Then decide how to proceed. If nothing arrives, you didn't miss out on much. But if it does, you'll be real glad you were careful.
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Wife had 2nd visit to the medical centre. Same symptoms as corona. First time they said it was bronchitis. Now they say whooping cough. They refuse to test for corona. We live in the most affluent area in the city.
But yet we have hardly any cases.... ::)
And, what's your point? The doctors believe your wife has something that isn't the coronavirus. Relax.
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your daily dose of ugliness
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/9267757/2147483647/resize/817x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F08%2F8d%2F30c8a80c4596997a06891e3ed881%2F200309-donald-trump-getty-773.jpg)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/donald-trump-obama-fake-news-tweets-124320
As stocks plummeted and concern spread about the growing coronavirus global health crisis, President Donald Trump began his week at his seaside resort in Florida with online screeds about fake news, Barack Obama and the Democratic primary. = real leadership according to GOP voters
Obsess much?
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Already posted elsewhere that the US had Swine Flu(H1N1) , only ten years ,ago. The general public seems to have forgotten that rather quickly.
"“These are deaths of young adults and children. It is different from seasonal influenza.”
H1N1 killed 282 U.S. children in 2009-2010, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.
CDC says H1N1 infected 61 million Americans during the pandemic and killed around 12,000.
https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478 (https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478)
Covid-19 is Swine Flu on steroids.
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Flights turned around mid-air as coronavirus spreads
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-14-20-intl-hnk/index.html
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You are far from "stoopid"? Actually you are too stupid to know that you are not there yet. You are at war with words which is why you make them up so often.
So speaks the Manholeorian.
You are shaken to the very core.
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10 more UK deaths,UK deaths just doubled in a day.
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Covid-19 is Swine Flu on steroids.
People comparing this to swine flu really need a reality check on mortality rates, and speed of spread.
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10 more UK deaths,UK deaths just doubled in a day.
30 died today from normal flu
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So speaks the Manholeorian.
You are shaken to the very core.
oh man that was funny :D ;D
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10 more UK deaths,UK deaths just doubled in a day.
UK will probably follow in Italy‘s footsteps regarding these numbers
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30 died today from normal flu
What will you say when we reach a 1000 deaths in a day, compared to 30 flu deaths?You'll be raising the bar the whole way.You live in the moment and there won't ever be any changing that.
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What will you say when we reach a 1000 deaths in a day, compared to 30 flu deaths?You'll be raising the bar the whole way.You live in the moment and there won't ever be any changing that.
1000 deaths a day? We have 3x that amount of abortions in a day. Are you worried about those lives?
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1000 deaths a day? We have 3x that amount of abortions in a day. Are you worried about those lives?
OVERLOADING OF HOSPITALS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AS I SAID ON PAGE 1 A MONTH AGO.Abortions or whatever current deaths are factored in, Covid19 are not.
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What will you say when we reach a 1000 deaths in a day, compared to 30 flu deaths?You'll be raising the bar the whole way.You live in the moment and there won't ever be any changing that.
you mean "if"
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the failed US response all started with this
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Foz4GVcAA3JJo.jpg)
on the bright side, bigots like Kung were able to crawl out from under rocks and enjoy the overt racism
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Last week we had 600 people in Sweden with Corona, today around 1000.
How many in April? 2000?
Today i woke up all swole, i may have the Corona!
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What will you say when we reach a 1000 deaths in a day, compared to 30 flu deaths?You'll be raising the bar the whole way.You live in the moment and there won't ever be any changing that.
I dunno...What will you say, my friend? You are beginning to read like a misguided misanthrope (Prime will have to look that one up! Fuck his noise ;D).
What kind of person seems to warn against that which is never quite near, i.e., the End of All Things? I would hazard to guess that is what they wish for, for no other reason than to say "I told you so!".
Since time immemorial there have been wars and rumors of wars, plagues, earthquakes, tidal waves, negroes gone wild and worse...LWG, aka Liberal White Guilt.
My time spans several decades now and I don't expect it to end any time soon. Neither do I expect to live forever. What I hope for is for people to shut the fuck up like this is the end of humanity, quit chimping out and contain the virus it by containing their fears and using common sense and modern medicine.
By the way, I look to seeing more Hollyweirdos claiming to have tested positive for the virus. Why? It's the new AIDS for them to show the world their solidarity with something bigger than they are.
Personally, I think that if that is what they desire they can simply do a selfie in front of an elephant's turd.
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OVERLOADING OF HOSPITALS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AS I SAID ON PAGE 1 A MONTH AGO.Abortions or whatever current deaths are factored in, Covid19 are not.
Oh you dont think everyone is factoring in covid19? It’s shut down the whole world but no one has planned to do anything (differently) about it?
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the failed US response all started with this
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Foz4GVcAA3JJo.jpg)
on the bright side, bigots like Kung were able to crawl out from under rocks and enjoy the overt racism
I eagerly await your absence. May your end be painful and unmourned. I never lie. I hope you die of this.
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I eagerly await your absence. May your end be painful and unmourned. I never lie. I hope you die of this.
May Corona take dearth and put him into de earth.
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oh man that was funny :D ;D
Thanks, brother!
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10 more UK deaths,UK deaths just doubled in a day.
LOL! 10? Ten? Panda bears killed more than ten people yesterday. LOL!
(Insert laughing bastards here)
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May Corona take dearth and put him into de earth.
Well written, sir!
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Page 55 of the Corona thread:
The Retards Strike Backwards
Nobody is saying this is the end of things, we just say brush your teeth after swallowing cum, trumpsters, 'cause your breath stinks when you speak.
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What are the death numbers in China? Have they hit the 1000 deaths a day number?
The epicenter should also be the litmus test for these theories. It should be easy to see this number in the densely populated city of Wuhan.
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The UK government is being savage. They basically want the virus to steadily work it's way through the population taking out many of those who put a strain on the system. My guess is there will be 200,000 corona related deaths in 12 months.
I didn't think any government would have the balls to do that. The US looks to be doing the same thing although I'm not sure it's by design.
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Page 55 of the Corona thread:
The Retards Strike Backwards
Nobody is saying this is the end of things, we just say brush your teeth after swallowing cum, trumpsters, 'cause your breath stinks when you speak.
Go intercourse yourself, twatling. Chicken Little got nothin' on you, eh kiddo? If there's to be a purge on this planet, consider this virus to be your ex-Lax® exit. You and all your kind.
You should be thankful you don't live next to me cuz I ain't Mr. Rogers and you and your ilk aren't welcome in my neighborhood. FOAD.
How fucking retarded can turd-worlders get? Primitive chimpout artists. If you're not busy enough I'm certain Don Lemon wants to be fucked and made to "obey". You're shaken, ace.
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The bOT:
nwwhwhewhhwhwhwhehwhewhh whehwhe
ilalin: pull out the serbian cawk out your huge mouth before you speak, dear
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The bOT:
nwwhwhewhhwhwhwhehwhewhh whehwhe
ilalin: pull out the serbian cawk out your huge mouth before you speak, dear
Yes. You obviously have a wonderful economy with words, ialin . I look forward to your next syllable with great eagerness.
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The UK government is being savage. They basically want the virus to steadily work it's way through the population taking out many of those who put a strain on the system. My guess is there will be 200,000 corona related deaths in 12 months.
I didn't think any government would have the balls to do that. The US looks to be doing the same thing although I'm not sure it's by design.
How does it look like the US doing this?
Is the goal to eliminate a generation of baby boomers ?
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The shitty shot thinks he's going to win this one. There is no winning here baby. Economy is on my side, the knowledge even more so. The facts speak for themselves. From now on, every time you see the disease stats think of me dear.
The trumpsters are losing and angry. The final battle nears, it'll be delightful.
Ciao bitch, make sure your scary rough neighborhood does not kill you.
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This is a bit contradicting
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/marty-makary-on-coronavirus-in-the-us-183558545.html
John Hopkins professor thinks anywhere from 50,000-500,000 people in the US has COVD-19. We've had what, 49 deaths? 49 deaths out of 50,000 infected really is not bad, 49 out of 500,000 is even less alarming. Not too sure what to make of things honestly. Time, as always, will tell.
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and think of the exponential hole digging you're clawing with your demented comments on the board. The word-shit eating competition has begun for the Rot...
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Trump does not understand the concept of undefined incubation period. I hope he is infecting his Pency mistress as they suck each faces. I honestly hope he is infected.
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How does it look like the US doing this?
Is the goal to eliminate a generation of baby boomers ?
The US is being very inactive on the ground.
It won't just be boomers. A lot of fatties, druggies and homeless will be RIPing
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Sweden is very inactive but Denmark and Norway are taking measures!
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The US is being very inactive on the ground.
It won't just be boomers. A lot of fatties, druggies and homeless will be RIPing
So it’s safe to say that all the actions have been superficial?
Realistically it wouldn’t be a surprise if the government decided to take such a stand, the question is will the country care or will they sit quietly and wait for more instructions.
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Sweden is very inactive but Denmark and Norway are taking measures!
Sweden is probably inactive for very different reasons. The want the old native population ti die so they have more room for hebs and peacers ;D
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Page 55 of the Corona thread:
The Retards Strike Backwards
Nobody is saying this is the end of things, we just say brush your teeth after swallowing cum, trumpsters, 'cause your breath stinks when you speak.
Fuck off you disgusting gypsie
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Sweden is probably inactive for very different reasons. The want the old native population ti die so they have more room for hebs and peacers ;D
Multiculti Agenda of Peace :D
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So it’s safe to say that all the actions have been superficial?
Realistically it wouldn’t be a surprise if the government decided to take such a stand, the question is will the country care or will they sit quietly and wait for more instructions.
Yes, to a degree. Slowing the spread is the goal, not stopping it. The phrase they are using in the UK is that "the genie is out of the bottle".
It just takes one undiagnosed infected person for it to spread again, so places that have it under control will need to keep those control measures in place until a vaccine is ready. That's been deemed infeasible.
If people die and there are no hospital beds then that could cause ill will amongst the people. If people die in hospital beds most won't really care. That's the goal now.
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The face you make after buying up 17000 hand sanitizers and other things, only to be banned from Amazon and Ebay -
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Not sure if behind pay wall - www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html .
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"On March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.
Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”
Matt Colvin stayed home near Chattanooga, preparing for pallets of even more wipes and sanitizer he had ordered, and starting to list them on Amazon. Mr. Colvin said he had posted 300 bottles of hand sanitizer and immediately sold them all for between $8 and $70 each, multiples higher than what he had bought them for. To him, “it was crazy money.” To many others, it was profiteering from a pandemic.
The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.
Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.
“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”
Mr. Colvin is one of probably thousands of sellers who have amassed stockpiles of hand sanitizer and crucial respirator masks that many hospitals are now rationing, according to interviews with eight Amazon sellers and posts in private Facebook and Telegram groups from dozens more. Amazon said it had recently removed hundreds of thousands of listings and suspended thousands of sellers’ accounts for price gouging related to the coronavirus.
Amazon, eBay, Walmart and other online-commerce platforms are trying to stop their sellers from making excessive profits from a public health crisis. While the companies aimed to discourage people from hoarding such products and jacking up their prices, many sellers had already cleared out their local stores and started selling the goods online.
Now both the physical and digital shelves are nearly empty.
Mikeala Kozlowski, a nurse in Dudley, Mass., has been searching for hand sanitizer since before she gave birth to her first child, Nora, on March 5. When she searched stores, which were sold out, she skipped getting gas to avoid handling the pump. And when she checked Amazon, she couldn’t find it for less than $50.
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“You’re being selfish, hoarding resources for your own personal gain,” she said of the sellers.
Sites like Amazon and eBay have given rise to a growing industry of independent sellers who snatch up discounted or hard-to-find items in stores to post online and sell around the world.
These sellers call it retail arbitrage, a 21st-century career that has adults buying up everything from limited-run cereals to Fingerling Monkeys, a once hot toy. The bargain hunters look for anything they can sell at a sharp markup. In recent weeks, they found perhaps their biggest opportunity: a pandemic.
As they watched the list of Amazon’s most popular searches crowd with terms like “Purell,” “N95 mask” and “Clorox wipes,” sellers said, they did what they had learned to do: Suck up supply and sell it for what the market would bear.
Initially, the strategy worked. For several weeks, prices soared for some of the top results to searches for sanitizer, masks and wipes on Amazon, according to a New York Times analysis of historical prices from Jungle Scout, which tracks data for Amazon sellers. The data shows that both Amazon and third-party sellers like Mr. Colvin increased their prices, which then mostly dropped when Amazon took action against price gouging this month.
Prices Have Spiked for Pandemic Supplies on Amazon
Average daily prices from Jan. 1 through March 7 for some of the most popular products returned in keyword searches on Amazon.com. | Source: Jungle Scout | By Ella Koeze
At the high prices, people still bought the products en masse, and Amazon took a cut of roughly 15 percent and eBay roughly 10 percent, depending on the price and the seller.
Then the companies, pressured by growing criticism from regulators and customers, cracked down. After the measures last week, Amazon went further on Wednesday, restricting sales of any coronavirus-related products from certain sellers.
“Price gouging is a clear violation of our policies, unethical, and in some areas, illegal,” Amazon said in a statement. “In addition to terminating these third party accounts, we welcome the opportunity to work directly with states attorneys general to prosecute bad actors.”
Mr. Colvin, 36, a former Air Force technical sergeant, said he started selling on Amazon in 2015, developing it into a six-figure career by selling Nike shoes and pet toys, and by following trends.
In early February, as headlines announced the coronavirus’s spread in China, Mr. Colvin spotted a chance to capitalize. A nearby liquidation firm was selling 2,000 “pandemic packs,” leftovers from a defunct company. Each came with 50 face masks, four small bottles of hand sanitizer and a thermometer. The price was $5 a pack. Mr. Colvin haggled it to $3.50 and bought them all.
He quickly sold all 2,000 of the 50-packs of masks on eBay, pricing them from $40 to $50 each, and sometimes higher. He declined to disclose his profit on the record but said it was substantial.
The success stoked his appetite. When he saw the panicked public starting to pounce on sanitizer and wipes, he and his brother set out to stock up.
Elsewhere in the country, other Amazon sellers were doing the same.
Chris Anderson, an Amazon seller in central Pennsylvania, said he and a friend had driven around Ohio, buying about 10,000 masks from stores. He used coupons to buy packs of 10 for around $15 each and resold them for $40 to $50. After Amazon’s cut and other costs, he estimates, he made a $25,000 profit.
Mr. Anderson is now holding 500 packs of antibacterial wipes after Amazon blocked him from selling them for $19 each, up from $16 weeks earlier. He bought the packs for $3 each.
Eric, a truck driver from Ohio who spoke on the condition that his surname not be published because he feared Amazon would retaliate, said he had also collected about 10,000 masks at stores. He bought each 10-pack for about $20 and sold most for roughly $80 each, though some he priced at $125.
“Even at $125 a box, they were selling almost instantly,” he said. “It was mind-blowing as far as what you could charge.” He estimates he made $35,000 to $40,000 in profit.
Now he has 1,000 more masks on order, but he’s not sure what to do with them. He said Amazon had been vague about what constituted price gouging, scaring away sellers who don’t want to risk losing their ability to sell on its site.
To regulators and many others, the sellers are sitting on a stockpile of medical supplies during a pandemic. The attorney general’s offices in California, Washington and New York are all investigating price gouging related to the coronavirus. California’s price-gouging law bars sellers from increasing prices by more than 10 percent after officials declare an emergency. New York’s law prohibits sellers from charging an “unconscionably excessive price” during emergencies.
An official at the Washington attorney general’s office said the agency believed it could apply the state’s consumer-protection law to sue platforms or sellers, even if they aren’t in Washington, as long as they were trying to sell to Washington residents.
Mr. Colvin does not believe he was price gouging. While he charged $20 on Amazon for two bottles of Purell that retail for $1 each, he said people forget that his price includes his labor, Amazon’s fees and about $10 in shipping. (Alcohol-based sanitizer is pricey to ship because officials consider it a hazardous material.)
Current price-gouging laws “are not built for today’s day and age,” Mr. Colvin said. “They’re built for Billy Bob’s gas station doubling the amount he charges for gas during a hurricane.”
He added, “Just because it cost me $2 in the store doesn’t mean it’s not going to cost me $16 to get it to your door.”
But what about the morality of hoarding products that can prevent the spread of the virus, just to turn a profit?
Mr. Colvin said he was simply fixing “inefficiencies in the marketplace.” Some areas of the country need these products more than others, and he’s helping send the supply toward the demand.
“There’s a crushing overwhelming demand in certain cities right now,” he said. “The Dollar General in the middle of nowhere outside of Lexington, Ky., doesn’t have that.”
He thought about it more. “I honestly feel like it’s a public service,” he added. “I’m being paid for my public service.”
As for his stockpile, Mr. Colvin said he would now probably try to sell it locally. “If I can make a slight profit, that’s fine,” he said. “But I’m not looking to be in a situation where I make the front page of the news for being that guy who hoarded 20,000 bottles of sanitizer that I’m selling for 20 times what they cost me.”
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Deaths in. the USA yearly with a breakdown..
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
no one cares
Coronavirus 51 deaths
the media and government lose their minds..
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Deaths in. the USA yearly with a breakdown..
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
no one cares
Coronavirus 51 deaths
the media and government lose their minds..
The foreigner gets it^^
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time will tell who's right, soon...watch what you say and keep your word impeccable
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time will tell who's right, soon...watch what you say and keep your word impeccable
You realize that China, South Korea and Russia are over and done with it already right?
Things are back to normal in those countries
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You realize that China, South Korea and Russia are over and done with it already right?
Things are back to normal in those countries
Sweden isn't even testing anymore. (600 last week, today around 1000 afflicted)
The most lax and ignorant government in decades.
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You realize that China, South Korea and Russia are over and done with it already right?
Things are back to normal in those countries
link?
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link?
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;D ;D
Trump will get owned if his results come out positive.. So much for him trying to down play the Corona virus..
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/trump-press-conference-coronavirus/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/trump-press-conference-coronavirus/index.html)
;D ;D
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No, it will be "TRUMP OVERCOMES CORONA WITHOUT MEDICAL ATTENTION" and brings the whole country together.
Results will be HUGE
In true God Emperor style!
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;D ;D
Maybe he will be called the Messiah..
;D ;D
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;D ;D
Maybe he will be called the Messiah..
;D ;D
HE ALREADY IS! :D
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No, it will be "TRUMP OVERCOMES CORONA WITHOUT MEDICAL ATTENTION" and brings the whole country together.
Results will be HUGE
In true God Emperor style!
;D
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and if it comes back positive and there is fuck all wrong with him then why would he look stupid?
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and if it comes back positive and there is fuck all wrong with him then why would he look stupid?
I think there will be greater concerns than how stupid he does or doesn't look after the test results come in. What I wonder is if he tests positive, will the public be told. For some reason, I doubt we will be.
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He is ok, no corona virus
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He is ok, no corona virus
;D ;D ;D
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TDS is the virus most of these dipshits have.
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Big Daddy government running our lives.
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;D ;D
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/14/donald-trump-handshake-response-coronavirus-tested/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/14/donald-trump-handshake-response-coronavirus-tested/)
;D ;D
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HE ALREADY IS! :D
;D ;D
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TDS is the virus most of these dipshits have.
Like getting chickenpox, mumps or measles, there is no treatment – one has to wait it out. It takes 8 years for TDS to resolve.
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Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Coronavirus 51 deaths
Good data set, thanks for posting.
We know that Corona falls into the flu/Pne category.
Analytics teams will simply be comparing all flu/Pne data last year to this year for their modelling. The data set will end up exposing corona regardless of classication because you will see the spikes.
What would be good to see is from Jan the yoy monthly deaths for flu. March should be an outlier and show a spike. Im not sure whether the US publishes that but it's the data set i'd be looking for.
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Deaths in. the USA yearly with a breakdown..
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
no one cares
Coronavirus 51 deaths
the media and government lose their minds..
You can't compare annual stats for something like flu which has had a chance to work completely through its seasonal cycle with something that only been around for a few months like covid19. You need to wait at least a year
Also those diseases/causes of deaths are factored into existing healthcare provisions. Covid19 and whatever it might lead to isn't.
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You can't compare annual stats for something like flu which has had a chance to work completely through its seasonal cycle with something that only been around for a few months like covid19. You need to wait at least a year
Also those diseases/causes of deaths are factored into existing healthcare provisions. Covid19 and whatever it might lead to isn't.
Also, we’ve got a numerator (number of reported deaths) but no denominator (number of verified cases).
Gonna take a while.
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You can't compare annual stats for something like flu which has had a chance to work completely through its seasonal cycle with something that only been around for a few months like covid19. You need to wait at least a year
Yep.
The weekly and monthly data set is what they will be looking at right now as you can build a profile for corona from that. No need to wait a year.
But the corona deaths will be categorised all over the place. There are academics who will reclassify it though (there are a number already doing this now).
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Yep.
The weekly and monthly data set is what they will be looking at right now as you can build a profile for corona from that. No need to wait a year.
But the corona deaths will be categorised all over the place. There are academics who will reclassify it though (there are a number already doing this now).
If covid19 does indeed become a seasonal virus then the first year it will take out large numbers of people who had comorbidites and had only a year or 2 left at best anyway. So those cancer and heart disease deaths etc just come earlier and in a bigger cluster because of covid19. This is what they need to slow down/spread out and what all the drama should be about. I agree looking at the monthly deaths does hold merit, but only to make sure things aren't going to shit!
By next year most of the general population should have developed a natural immunity to the virus and it won't spread anything like it is now. Any deaths from it will probably be far lower than seasonal flu. They will also be pimping the vaccination hard to everyone even though it will largely be irrelevant by then. (invest in pharma)
51 deaths or 51,000 deaths a month. It won't matter this time next year.
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USA is #35 on the list of most coronacases per population
China is #16
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Trump can’t get the coronavirus. He has the best immune system. It’s a beautiful immune system. The greatest immune system. His immune system knows more than any other immune system. The best!
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Trump can’t get the coronavirus. He has the best immune system. It’s a beautiful immune system. The greatest immune system. His immune system knows more than any other immune system. The best!
;D
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shit's getting more serious by the minute.
First non-repatriated confirmed corona case in London, Ontario, my town. The lady in her 50s never traveled anywhere recently, but is a health care worker.
On another note, godwilling, Pence is sick and will infect Trump, tonguing his large pale ass-crack.
Long Live Free North America LLFNA
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If covid19 does indeed become a seasonal virus then the first year it will take out large numbers of people who had comorbidites and had only a year or 2 left at best anyway. So those cancer and heart disease deaths etc just come earlier and in a bigger cluster because of covid19. This is what they need to slow down/spread out and what all the drama should be about. I agree looking at the monthly deaths does hold merit, but only to make sure things aren't going to shit!
By next year most of the general population should have developed a natural immunity to the virus and it won't spread anything like it is now. Any deaths from it will probably be far lower than seasonal flu. They will also be pimping the vaccination hard to everyone even though it will largely be irrelevant by then. (invest in pharma)
51 deaths or 51,000 deaths a month. It won't matter this time next year.
Agreed, it's called herd immunity.
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Laughable shit. Folly.
Cowards.
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Laughable shit. Folly.
Cowards.
Look........ a retard!
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Look........ a retard!
Step away from the mirror, kiddo.
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Army of one - i wouldn't take that onboard as that is not on trend with the large data available.
They know it takes out old people.
If it took out young people at the same rate, they'd have shut the globe down day 1 as a result of trying to save humanity.
France would need to go on record as saying it's mutated already and now killing young people.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/
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Not just older people, but also people who have underlying health conditions. So a 30 year old in ill health is more susceptible to having severe symptoms or even dying from the virus.
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That's what you get for stuffing yourself with foie gras, Camembert, smoking like a chimney and drinking a bottle of wine everyday.
Anyway the original article in French said under 60, not 50. Always fact check before you have your meltdowns
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Therein lies the difficulty. The coronavirus is much more deceitful. Some have no symptoms while being contagious. Difficult to box against a sometimes invisible threat . Another concern, this time new, the profile of people admitted to intensive care is changing. Just two or three days ago, the men and women who came to these services for respiratory distress were mainly frail, elderly and already sick people. Now, they are no longer the only ones. "It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology," says Gilles Pialoux. This is the reality on the ground. The circle widens. "
>"It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology,"
http://archive.is/ZZanF
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Therein lies the difficulty. The coronavirus is much more deceitful. Some have no symptoms while being contagious. Difficult to box against a sometimes invisible threat . Another concern, this time new, the profile of people admitted to intensive care is changing. Just two or three days ago, the men and women who came to these services for respiratory distress were mainly frail, elderly and already sick people. Now, they are no longer the only ones. "It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology," says Gilles Pialoux. This is the reality on the ground. The circle widens. "
>"It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology,"
http://archive.is/ZZanF
Explain what without pathology means in this application.
The word "pathology" is sometimes misused to mean disease as, for example, "he didn't find any pathology" (meaning he found no evidence of disease).
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Therein lies the difficulty. The coronavirus is much more deceitful. Some have no symptoms while being contagious. Difficult to box against a sometimes invisible threat . Another concern, this time new, the profile of people admitted to intensive care is changing. Just two or three days ago, the men and women who came to these services for respiratory distress were mainly frail, elderly and already sick people. Now, they are no longer the only ones. "It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology," says Gilles Pialoux. This is the reality on the ground. The circle widens. "
>"It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology,"
http://archive.is/ZZanF
Quote from the same guy
Q: Today, a person of 30-40 years, even without a medical history, can end up in intensive care?
The answer is yes. It is not to scare people. In fact, it is a very low probability, but it is a non-zero probability.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/coronavirus-la-grippe-c-est-un-deces-pour-2000-cas-la-on-est-plutot-a-un-deces-pour-50cas-declare-un-infectiologue_3864791.html&prev=search
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Confirmed - Mar a lago is petridish for worthless scum!
(https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/6XNl_plJS7qAYL3TcuHiyYRLfQk=/1400x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6JNUE5TDFZA25HR47NHKB55LEU.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/on-a-saturday-night-in-florida-a-presidential-party-became-a-coronavirus-hot-zone/ar-BB11bIXN
"the Mar-a-Lago petri dish has become a kind of metaphor for the perils of group gatherings in the age of coronavirus."
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Look........ a retard!
My goodness Cindy, how are you able to get access to your computer with all the dead bodies piled up everywhere in your beloved Italy ? The stench of decaying amigos must be terrible.
Dunce.
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Macron supports open borders so , :P
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My goodness Cindy, how are you able to get access to your computer with all the dead bodies piled up everywhere in your beloved Italy ? The stench of decaying amigos must be terrible.
Dunce.
Tommy, do you think your impressive squats will protect you from the virus?
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If younger French are dying, well, it is because those people don't bathe.
They be stinky.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dttRSJX8/bad-smell.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3QCX9Wq/Pepe-le-Pew.jpg)
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Tommy, do you think your impressive squats will protect you from the virus?
If you can go to BATTLE with the iron, you can go to WAR with the virus.
Kidding aside he’s in the cross hairs of this disease and should take it more seriously.
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Tommy, do you think your impressive squats will protect you from the virus?
:D Oh Lordy. Brother there are so many drugs pouring through my body I don't think I would even notice some candy ass virus jumping on board too. If I contracted that pathetic virus I would be sidelined for 5-7 days. Nothing more.
It kills the old and the weak. I'm one but not the other.
Stay cool my friend.
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They will all be fine as they supposedly have the best healthcare system in the world.
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Not just older people, but also people who have underlying health conditions. So a 30 year old in ill health is more susceptible to having severe symptoms or even dying from the virus.
This is quite simple: If you are smoker, if you have asthma etc. condition, diabetes etc. or your kidneys fked up by juicing, liver cramping by drinking etc. you have quite low chances to keep on living after this virus. So how about average getbigger, who has been smoking weed & cigarettes, has diabetes II by gaining only fat, bad kidneys from cheap gear and liver spoiled by bad moonshine? How about those who has enlarged entrails by insulin protocols, which obstruct their lungs and make them gasp for breath when they try to walk? Just kiss your ass goodbye ;D
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Macron supports open borders so , :P
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Look........ a retard!
do you know anyone personally who has the virus?
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I will soon. Two cousins still outside of the country. One in Indonesia, one in Dominican.
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Good work stoking fear into the mush brains out there that have started parking illegally all over the Costco lot and entering multiple times to hoard as much toilet paper as they can fit in their car.
Ive actually noticed a considerable amount of empty shelves at the local food mart. Cleaning supplies are give, breads and cereals almost al gone, hotdogs and meats if that nature are all gone. Costco had significant amounts of meat products missing as well as a few other things. I live in a major metropolitan area.
There is a heightened sense of panic with some shoppers and their behavior is disgusting. Hope you get the virus first and choke to death for being unhinged pukes.
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tough times when the lying liars can't keep up with their own lies
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wing-t-decide-virus-no-093032583.html
Team Trump has finally found itself in a crisis it cannot propagandize its way out of. Unfortunately, this has not led Team Trump (the administration and its various Fox News-based media arms) to pivot to the brash notion of telling the truth. No, of course not.
For the first time ever, though, Team Trump is very confused about which lie to tell. Historically, the Trump administration and Fox News have been meticulous messengers, able to turn almost everything into a way to “own the libs.” But COVID-19 is providing Trump very few opportunities for lib ownership.
Previously, before we hit the crisis stage, we got weeks of obfuscation, and the president’s conviction that “it’s going away. We want it to go away with very, very few deaths.” Now, Trumpists are trying to grapple with the possibility that the global pandemic may in fact be real. As COVID-19 has decimated Italy, killed thousands of Chinese nationals, and spread like a brush fire through at least 47 states, it’s becoming harder and harder for Trumpists to deny the truth.
Trump’s Finally Trying to Show Coronavirus Leadership, and It’s Almost Worse
But because they’re Trumpists, they are still trying desperately to stick to the party line. The problem is they’re not completely sure what that party line is. The Trumpists’ messaging has become completely inconsistent, vacillating between Laura Ingraham’s conviction that COVID-19 is a way for Democrats to “to smear the administration in a number of ways,” and Newt Gingrich saying that it was “the Wuhan that poisoned the world. That’s what you get when you get Chinese trade.” Trumpists seem completely conflicted between their love of racism and their passion for denial of obvious facts. How can Trumpists learn to message a pandemic they’ve been saying isn’t real for weeks?
Many Trumpists will do what Jerry Falwell did Friday morning, which was to dismiss the pandemic while also using it for a little racism and conspiracy talk. After going on the president’s favorite morning show, Fox & Friends, and saying that people are “overreacting,” Falwell tweeted, “Could Covid-19 be the ‘Christmas gift’ North Korea’s leadership promised America back in December?”
That the disease is no big deal but also the fault of North Korea is a hard needle to thread. Some won’t even bother threading it. One of Trump’s most sycophantic sycophants, Sebastian Gorka, took the opportunity to praise Dear Leader, saying that Trump "has been utterly proven correct" on the "Wuhan virus." Of course Trump has been saying for weeks that the virus would “disappear,” which is obviously not correct, as we are up to 1,700 infected today, and that’s without widespread testing that would put the real number even higher.
One of the few Fox pundits who is taking COVID-19 seriously is Tucker Carlson. Tucker said on Monday, “People you trust—people you probably voted for—have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem.” It’s almost as if he realizes killing his loyal viewers is bad for business.
Of course, I don’t want to congratulate young Tucker too much, because right after that he did an entire segment about how it’s totally not racist to call COVID-19 the Wuhan virus where he put one of my tweets up on the screen, which meant that then my Twitter direct messages were flooded with charming notes from Tucker viewers saying that I was “the real racist for calling it racist.” Not entirely sure how that would work, but logic isn’t really a tenet of Trumpism.
As the conservative media finds itself stuck between embracing the pandemic as a way to blame China for something and saying Democrats are overreacting in the hopes of making Trump look bad, it’s important to remember that people actually believe these talking points, and a lot of the people who believe these talking points are in the age group for which COVID-19 is the most fatal (the death rate for people over the age of 60 is more than 4.5 percent, and it rises sharply with every decade).
In Friday’s Washington Post, an elderly retiree said, “People are too worried. The flu has killed more people than the coronavirus, and people haven’t been as concerned over the flu.” The conservative media’s messaging may be messy, but its results will be toxic. The average age of a Fox viewer is 65 years old, and the people most likely to die from COVID-19 are over the age of… 65 years old. For these people’s sake, we should hope that Fox world abandons its Trish Regan “Coronavirus is an impeachment scam” messaging before it’s too late for the Boomers who believe it.
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tough times when the lying liars can't keep up with their own lies
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wing-t-decide-virus-no-093032583.html
Team Trump has finally found itself in a crisis it cannot propagandize its way out of. Unfortunately, this has not led Team Trump (the administration and its various Fox News-based media arms) to pivot to the brash notion of telling the truth. No, of course not.
For the first time ever, though, Team Trump is very confused about which lie to tell. Historically, the Trump administration and Fox News have been meticulous messengers, able to turn almost everything into a way to “own the libs.” But COVID-19 is providing Trump very few opportunities for lib ownership.
Previously, before we hit the crisis stage, we got weeks of obfuscation, and the president’s conviction that “it’s going away. We want it to go away with very, very few deaths.” Now, Trumpists are trying to grapple with the possibility that the global pandemic may in fact be real. As COVID-19 has decimated Italy, killed thousands of Chinese nationals, and spread like a brush fire through at least 47 states, it’s becoming harder and harder for Trumpists to deny the truth.
Trump’s Finally Trying to Show Coronavirus Leadership, and It’s Almost Worse
But because they’re Trumpists, they are still trying desperately to stick to the party line. The problem is they’re not completely sure what that party line is. The Trumpists’ messaging has become completely inconsistent, vacillating between Laura Ingraham’s conviction that COVID-19 is a way for Democrats to “to smear the administration in a number of ways,” and Newt Gingrich saying that it was “the Wuhan that poisoned the world. That’s what you get when you get Chinese trade.” Trumpists seem completely conflicted between their love of racism and their passion for denial of obvious facts. How can Trumpists learn to message a pandemic they’ve been saying isn’t real for weeks?
Many Trumpists will do what Jerry Falwell did Friday morning, which was to dismiss the pandemic while also using it for a little racism and conspiracy talk. After going on the president’s favorite morning show, Fox & Friends, and saying that people are “overreacting,” Falwell tweeted, “Could Covid-19 be the ‘Christmas gift’ North Korea’s leadership promised America back in December?”
That the disease is no big deal but also the fault of North Korea is a hard needle to thread. Some won’t even bother threading it. One of Trump’s most sycophantic sycophants, Sebastian Gorka, took the opportunity to praise Dear Leader, saying that Trump "has been utterly proven correct" on the "Wuhan virus." Of course Trump has been saying for weeks that the virus would “disappear,” which is obviously not correct, as we are up to 1,700 infected today, and that’s without widespread testing that would put the real number even higher.
One of the few Fox pundits who is taking COVID-19 seriously is Tucker Carlson. Tucker said on Monday, “People you trust—people you probably voted for—have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem.” It’s almost as if he realizes killing his loyal viewers is bad for business.
Of course, I don’t want to congratulate young Tucker too much, because right after that he did an entire segment about how it’s totally not racist to call COVID-19 the Wuhan virus where he put one of my tweets up on the screen, which meant that then my Twitter direct messages were flooded with charming notes from Tucker viewers saying that I was “the real racist for calling it racist.” Not entirely sure how that would work, but logic isn’t really a tenet of Trumpism.
As the conservative media finds itself stuck between embracing the pandemic as a way to blame China for something and saying Democrats are overreacting in the hopes of making Trump look bad, it’s important to remember that people actually believe these talking points, and a lot of the people who believe these talking points are in the age group for which COVID-19 is the most fatal (the death rate for people over the age of 60 is more than 4.5 percent, and it rises sharply with every decade).
In Friday’s Washington Post, an elderly retiree said, “People are too worried. The flu has killed more people than the coronavirus, and people haven’t been as concerned over the flu.” The conservative media’s messaging may be messy, but its results will be toxic. The average age of a Fox viewer is 65 years old, and the people most likely to die from COVID-19 are over the age of… 65 years old. For these people’s sake, we should hope that Fox world abandons its Trish Regan “Coronavirus is an impeachment scam” messaging before it’s too late for the Boomers who believe it.
I read that rubbish, did you?.....The only Lie is the so-called article...
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I will soon. Two cousins still outside of the country. One in Indonesia, one in Dominican.
errrr....
It's been few months since I post mainly because I changed job and I've been very busy. This evening I feel it's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to share this with all my good friends here since early 2000.
Please do note this is NOT a troll post: many of you maybe remember me and the fact that I always been very straightforward and sincere. Do not underestimate this situation in the USA: you live in a great Country with economic power and above all people able to overcome any adversity.
But here in Italy the situation is far worse to what you can read in the news.
I live in a fairly small town (25.000 people) but still at the moment we do not know where to put the bodies of dead people. It's this bad, really. The church near the town hospital today was completely full with casks waiting to be sent to the cemetery.
Commercial activities are 90% closed: two weeks ago I had the idea to buy large quantities of food (approx for 60 days for me and my wife). Supermarkets are empty, no food there for the moment. We're locked in my house waiting for the situation to hopefully get better but I'm not that optimistic.
So my friends this is not meant to scare you BUT TO WARN YOU: do not underestimate this situation. Be safe, avoid if possible contact with people and start putting away food for you and your loved ones.
Stay strong my friends, a big hug from Italy.
TIL
and you still dont know one person personally in a small town of 25k people with bodies piling up?
You sir are full of shit..
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
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I’ll throat-punch that lil fella
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Huge without being stupidly huge. Easy to maintain without drugs.
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Huge without being stupidly huge. Easy to maintain without drugs.
Once that last bit of water is gone, he’ll dominate the stage.
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It's not a flu. Info is literally everywhere on this thing, haha.
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Good work stoking fear into the mush brains out there that have started parking illegally all over the Costco lot and entering multiple times to hoard as much toilet paper as they can fit in their car.
Ive actually noticed a considerable amount of empty shelves at the local food mart. Cleaning supplies are give, breads and cereals almost al gone, hotdogs and meats if that nature are all gone. Costco had significant amounts of meat products missing as well as a few other things. I live in a major metropolitan area.
There is a heightened sense of panic with some shoppers and their behavior is disgusting. Hope you get the virus first and choke to death for being unhinged pukes.
Panic shopping is just nuts. A catastrophe brings out the best and the worst in people. It is all a matter of choice.
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Panic shopping is a lot of fun!
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Panic shopping is a lot of fun!
I hate crowds.
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I hate crowds.
You don't have to participate, you can just watch on the news as people are fighting over toilet paper!
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You don't have to participate, you can just watch on the news as people are fighting over toilet paper!
Watch people at their worst? I'd rather not.
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It's not a flu. Info is literally everywhere on this thing, haha.
I've heard that it isn't the flu. It's a virus that mirrors many flu symptoms. The flu is also a virus. My guess is that it is a severe form of the flu. It might be more accurate to say it is not the common flu.
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
It's a biological weapon designed by Dr Nibiré and staff created to weed out the elderly so that the mussie immigrants can take over their apartments and houses.
All part of the Kalergi-plan.
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
It's not very deadly. I'm not sure what they mean when they throw numbers like that around, maybe they're talking about it, over time, infecting a lot of people and then becoming a normal thing, kinda like a typical yearly influenza, people at risk will have to be taken care of and when there's a vaccine they will take it and for most people they get sick and then recover, some people might hardly even know they had it... and a lot of people who's been infected, hopefully, get immune to it.
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exponential increase every 2 -4 days
170 + 170 = 340
340 + 340 = 680
680 + 680 = 1360
1360 + 1360 = 2720
2720 + 2720 = 5440
5440 x 2 = 10880
10880 x 2 = 21760
21760 x 2 = 43520
x2 = 87 mil
x2 = 174 mil
x2 = 348 mil
x2 = 696 mil
x2 = 1.3 billion
worst case scenario in 26 days, if everybody's stupid like people that still support Trump and Pence. Fortunately, more than half of humanity is much smarter, or so I hope...
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2% of 1.3 is 26 million. Quite a few people will be dead if the whole thing goes south.
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2% of 1.3 is 26 million. Quite a few people will be dead if the whole thing goes south.
Hmmmmm - Yes possibly
Not sure if You’re aware of this Yet - Only we’re all Going to Die
And the older you get the % chance of Dying Increases
HTH.
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I've heard that it isn't the flu. It's a virus that mirrors many flu symptoms. The flu is also a virus. My guess is that it is a severe form of the flu. It might be more accurate to say it is not the common flu.
then they need to stop calling it a coronavirus, by definition thats an influenza virus
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Hmmmmm - Yes possibly
Not sure if You’re aware of this Yet - Only we’re all Going to Die
And the older you get the % chance of Dying Increases
HTH.
Ain't that the fuck'n truth!
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Ain't that the fuck'n truth!
life sucks >:(
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Laughable shit. Embarrassing trash. Folly.
Candy assess of the world unite!
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It's not very deadly. I'm not sure what they mean when they throw numbers like that around, maybe they're talking about it, over time, infecting a lot of people and then becoming a normal thing, kinda like a typical yearly influenza, people at risk will have to be taken care of and when there's a vaccine they will take it and for most people they get sick and then recover, some people might hardly even know they had it... and a lot of people who's been infected, hopefully, get immune to it.
Italy has been the hardest hit European country yet the virus hasn’t made its way down to the median age group:
https://www.businessinsider.com/italy-coronavirus-old-population-cases-death-rate-2020-3?amp
According to Italy's national health institute, the average age of those who have died was 81, and many of the deceased had preexisting health conditions. Only one in five coronavirus patients is between 19 and 50 years old, making the older population significantly more impacted by the virus in Italy.
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errrr....
and you still dont know one person personally in a small town of 25k people with bodies piling up?
You sir are full of shit..
LOL! Mama Mia that's a spicy meatball.
Folly. Pure folly.
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Just got back from mountain biking, trailhead is packed, trail is packed, booty shorts out in full force, no face masks, no panic.
Weird.
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2% of 1.3 is 26 million. Quite a few people will be dead if the whole thing goes south.
Let it fall.
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"God of Justice" sounds bitter
exponential increase every 2 -4 days
170 + 170 = 340
340 + 340 = 680
680 + 680 = 1360
1360 + 1360 = 2720
2720 + 2720 = 5440
5440 x 2 = 10880
10880 x 2 = 21760
21760 x 2 = 43520
x2 = 87 mil
x2 = 174 mil
x2 = 348 mil
x2 = 696 mil
x2 = 1.3 billion
worst case scenario in 26 days, if everybody's stupid like people that still support Trump and Pence. Fortunately, more than half of humanity is much smarter, or so I hope...
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Just got back from mountain biking, trailhead is packed, trail is packed, booty shorts out in full force, no face masks, no panic.
Weird.
Positive people like you, and the other people that you saw.. aren’t going to let Coronavirus ruin their happiness, or their day.
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Where are the bodies?!?!!
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Corona
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98% and the two percent are mainly the elderly and those with preexisting health issues.
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Theyre as obsessed as gymgoers.
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Writer chronicles U.S. fatalities by location, age, and known health.
Note: the numbers change quickly. These figures are current as of March 15, 2020. Visit CDC.gov for the latest government information.
65% of U.S. deaths were in Washington State
27 of total 62 U.S. deaths occurred at the same Washington State nursing home
Sixty-two U.S. coronavirus deaths were reported as of Sunday, March 15. The numbers increase daily, but the profiles below provide a snapshot in time of the victims.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/03/new-the-first-59-u-s-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-and-age/
(https://sharylattkisson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-15-at-1.59.02-PM-1024x842.png)
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I am hoping it destroys the ChiComs, Iran and all of islime. Fuck 'em all to Hades. They deserve to be wiped out.
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C. S. Lewis on the Coronavirus
It’s now clear that COVID-19 is a deadly serious global pandemic, and all necessary precautions should be taken. Still, C. S. Lewis’s words—written 72 years ago—ring with some relevance for us. Just replace “atomic bomb” with “coronavirus.”
In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”
In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.
— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cs-lewis-coronavirus/
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exponential increase every 2 -4 days
170 + 170 = 340
340 + 340 = 680
680 + 680 = 1360
1360 + 1360 = 2720
2720 + 2720 = 5440
5440 x 2 = 10880
10880 x 2 = 21760
21760 x 2 = 43520
x2 = 87 mil
x2 = 174 mil
x2 = 348 mil
x2 = 696 mil
x2 = 1.3 billion
worst case scenario in 26 days, if everybody's stupid like people that still support Trump and Pence. Fortunately, more than half of humanity is much smarter, or so I hope...
ummm...the virus started in November and it's only at 170,000. Plus it's already slowing down in Asia.
Where's the exponential increase? :(
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Corona
This is what I'm thinking has happened.
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ummm...the virus started in November and it's only at 170,000. Plus it's already slowing down in Asia.
Where's the exponential increase? :(
Why do you think it's only at 170000 ?
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Why do you think it's only at 170000 ?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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ummm...the virus started in November and it's only at 170,000. Plus it's already slowing down in Asia.
Where's the exponential increase? :(
The hole in the exponential argument is the assumption that it will continue at the same rate.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
That link does not answer my question .
Why do you think it's only at 170000 ?
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Corona
It left out AIDS which was supposed to “explode” into the general population. We’re still waiting for that to happen.
Ironically, the guy we’re always seeing on TV, Anthony Fauci, is the same guy who was in charge during AIDS.
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That link does not answer my question .
Why do you think it's only at 170000 ?
Sorry. I don’t think I understand your question.
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It left out AIDS which was supposed to “explode” into the general population. We’re still waiting for that to happen.
Ironically, the guy we’re always seeing on TV, Anthony Fauci, is the same guy who was in charge during AIDS.
Also forgot Monkey Pox. 🐒
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Sorry. I don’t think I understand your question.
According to you ,what is the reason for the low numbers
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It's a fake pandemic to institute a world wide police state.
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According to you ,what is the reason for the low numbers
No idea.
My question is that if the numbers are so low (relatively), why are predictions so high?
My government (Canada) is claiming 70% of the population will contact the virus. I think that’s an overreaction.
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No idea.
Seriously ? it has nothing to do with shutting down entire countries ,sporting events, stores ........................ .....................
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The corona virus is a blessing in disguise
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It left out AIDS which was supposed to “explode” into the general population. We’re still waiting for that to happen.
Ironically, the guy we’re always seeing on TV, Anthony Fauci, is the same guy who was in charge during AIDS.
Since AIDS can be avoided with proper treatment today, it has not exploded into the general population and is not likely to. In San Francisco in 2018, nearly 16,000 people were living with HIV. In that year, there were 197 people diagnosed with HIV.
On a grander scale, According to UNAIDS : Number of People with HIV—There were approximately 37.9 million people across the globe with HIV/AIDS in 2018. Of these, 36.2 million were adults and 1.7 million were children (<15 years old). New HIV Infections—An estimated 1.7 million individuals worldwide became newly infected with HIV in 2018. Since the first AIDS cases were reported in the United States in June 1981, the number of cases and deaths among persons with AIDS increased rapidly during the 1980s followed by substantial declines in new cases and deaths in the late 1990s.
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I always thought "Killer bees" we're going to end mankind. Then I was positive Y2K would be doomsday. Then I stopped smoking crack and realized people are just stupid.
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Let's look at the bright side
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I always thought "Killer bees" we're going to end mankind. Then I was positive Y2K would be doomsday. Then I stopped smoking crack and realized people are just stupid.
This is what I’m thinking.
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The bright side is what's happening to Italy, religious revival
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Let's look at the bright side
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Since AIDS can be avoided with proper treatment today, it has not exploded into the general population and is not likely to. In San Francisco in 2018, nearly 16,000 people were living with HIV. In that year, there were 197 people diagnosed with HIV.
On a grander scale, According to UNAIDS : Number of People with HIV—There were approximately 37.9 million people across the globe with HIV/AIDS in 2018. Of these, 36.2 million were adults and 1.7 million were children (<15 years old). New HIV Infections—An estimated 1.7 million individuals worldwide became newly infected with HIV in 2018. Since the first AIDS cases were reported in the United States in June 1981, the number of cases and deaths among persons with AIDS increased rapidly during the 1980s followed by substantial declines in new cases and deaths in the late 1990s.
Please, when the numbers started to come up short they moved the goalpost so that every starving person in Africa was considered to have aids when they were really just malnourished.
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exponential increase every 2 -4 days
170 + 170 = 340
340 + 340 = 680
680 + 680 = 1360
1360 + 1360 = 2720
2720 + 2720 = 5440
5440 x 2 = 10880
10880 x 2 = 21760
21760 x 2 = 43520
x2 = 87 mil
x2 = 174 mil
x2 = 348 mil
x2 = 696 mil
x2 = 1.3 billion
worst case scenario in 26 days, if everybody's stupid like people that still support Trump and Pence. Fortunately, more than half of humanity is much smarter, or so I hope...
What are the.numbers coming out of China? At this point the whole country should be infected with a million dead?
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Please, when the numbers started to come up short they moved the goalpost so that every starving person in Africa was considered to have aids when they were really just malnourished.
So, how does this relate to the decline in HIV infections? Are you saying the initial statistical numbers were artificially high and that is the reason later statistical numbers declined? The decline in AIDS cases can be partly explained because of anti-virals which were not initially available. In fact the medications we have today to treat HIV are fairly recent discoveries.
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So, how does this relate to the decline in HIV infections? Are you saying the initial statistical numbers were artificially high and that is the reason later statistical numbers declined? The decline in AIDS cases can be partly explained because of anti-virals which were not initially available. In fact the medications we have today to treat HIV are fairly recent discoveries.
I’m saying that the dire predictions never came to fruition. The explosion into the heterosexual population never happened no matter what you’ve led to believe.
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You guys are so stupid
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It's a fake pandemic to institute a world wide police state.
These are the deaths in NYC. I’ll bet the people in their 50s weighed 400:
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-third-death-new-york-state-20200315-zigrd765j5gwlasw3qi7n4zzmu-story.html
A 79-year-old woman died at Mt. Sinai Hospital Sunday after being admitted within the past week, authorities said. She had preexisting conditions including lung disease.
The other newly announced deaths Sunday were a 78-year-old man with multiple preexisting conditions, a 56-year-old man with diabetes and a 53-year-old woman with diabetes and heart disease.
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We need God
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98% and the two percent are mainly the elderly and those with preexisting health issues.
:D
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We all die at the end
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These are the deaths in NYC. I’ll bet the people in their 50s weighed 400:
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-third-death-new-york-state-20200315-zigrd765j5gwlasw3qi7n4zzmu-story.html
A 79-year-old woman died at Mt. Sinai Hospital Sunday after being admitted within the past week, authorities said. She had preexisting conditions including lung disease.
The other newly announced deaths Sunday were a 78-year-old man with multiple preexisting conditions, a 56-year-old man with diabetes and a 53-year-old woman with diabetes and heart disease.
Writer chronicles U.S. fatalities by location, age, and known health.
Note: the numbers change quickly. These figures are current as of March 15, 2020. Visit CDC.gov for the latest government information.
65% of U.S. deaths were in Washington State
27 of total 62 U.S. deaths occurred at the same Washington State nursing home
Sixty-two U.S. coronavirus deaths were reported as of Sunday, March 15. The numbers increase daily, but the profiles below provide a snapshot in time of the victims.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/03/new-the-first-59-u-s-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-and-age/
(https://sharylattkisson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-15-at-1.59.02-PM-1024x842.png)
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Brutal if true
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Did C.S. Lewis even lift?
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C. S. Lewis on the Coronavirus
It’s now clear that COVID-19 is a deadly serious global pandemic, and all necessary precautions should be taken. Still, C. S. Lewis’s words—written 72 years ago—ring with some relevance for us. Just replace “atomic bomb” with “coronavirus.”
In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”
In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds.
— “On Living in an Atomic Age” (1948) in Present Concerns: Journalistic Essays
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cs-lewis-coronavirus/
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Did C.S. Lewis even lift?
No, but he was saved. :D
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
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You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
Bro...
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You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
Thank you sir! ;)
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You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
This. It's about to get very ugly.
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Yes. You are missing the academic background to understand the statistical dynamics involved in a pandemic. In reading your post one can't help but think of a longshoreman or perhaps a forklift operator sounding off about current events. Thanks but no thanks.
Haha "statistical dynamics" isn't even an actual term......WORST troll ever. ;D
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You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
Dude........
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Hahahha great replies
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Agenda 2030 in full effect.
Didn’t Bill Gates stage a practice run of this back in October at Event 201?
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You are not missing anything... You're wise enough to see through the bullshit
There are just a few people worldwide who have died with the claim that it is over some Corona virus... that alone is justifying closing down schools, universities, retail stores/chains, restaurants, gyms, gatherings of 250 or more people, movies, libraries etc etc etc???
C'mon... it is a FINANCIAL RESET, a DEPOPULATION, a LOSS OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY, a LOSS OF HUMAN RIGHTS etc etc
WOEFUL time we are in now
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No, but he was saved. :D
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My nikkas
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Bro...
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Just got back from mountain biking, trailhead is packed, trail is packed, booty shorts out in full force, no face masks, no panic.
Weird.
Why were you wearing booty shorts ?
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Why were you wearing booty shorts ?
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The face you make after buying up 17000 hand sanitizers and other things, only to be banned from Amazon and Ebay -
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/13/business/00gouge1/merlin_170438451_dd144ae2-8cd3-4d76-9196-7c12518b53a4-superJumbo.jpg).
Update -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETHHr7NUMAAJpHz?format=jpg&name=large).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETHHzR6U8AAsnaF?format=jpg&name=large - boring part of the letter.
The scuttlebutt is that they are trying to work out some type of donation to get the government off their back.
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The US numbers are a bit low and I don't necessarily believe it's an Obama/Trump thing but this basically sums up what I'm trying to say.
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Trump is doing a good job
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Corona
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=662620.0;attach=788174;image
Funny how nothing was gonna “kill us all” in the recession”
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The US numbers are a bit low and I don't necessarily believe it's an Obama/Trump thing but this basically sums up what I'm trying to say.
Corona is not just a US-thing, It's a World-thing.
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Corona is not just a US-thing, It's a World-thing.
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Fuck De Blowsieo to Hell. He's just trying to save his political buttocks.
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The US numbers are a bit low and I don't necessarily believe it's an Obama/Trump thing but this basically sums up what I'm trying to say.
And ironically, that pic you got from social "media" to post here, is also manipulating your life and opinions.
The Coronavirus is accelerating much more rapidly than Swine Flu, hence the panic. Also it has a higher mortality rate. Hospitals are being and will be overloaded if the virus is allowed to spread without doing anything to slow it. It will easily catch and overtake swine flu numbers at the current rate of infection.
If coronavirus infects 60 million people like swine flu, and has the death rate in your pic, 1,715,575 people will die.
So 12,496 deaths for swine flu vs 1,715,575 deaths for coronavirus in the USA if 60 million infected. If only a quarter of those 60 million people get officially tested, that's still 428,000 deaths.
The red line is going up in almost a straight line, its 6500 deaths now. The power of the exponential function.
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We all die at the end
Brilliant! I think this is why it is called 'the end'.
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The reason for the spike is the lack of immunity from a related strain. Most flus and other viral infections have a certain amount of herd immunity....usually age blocks that are mostly immune.
This one does not have a large block except for the very young which is the reason for the quick spike compared to SARS and H1N1. Older populations are both disproportionately affected because of the lack of prior exposure to something similar as well as the fact that they are less healthy and have comorbidities.
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
Well, for every patient with covid-19, each of them will in average infect 5 people more, they 5 each 5 people more etc. until you have several billion. Quite easy, 5 x 5 = 25, 25 x 5 = 125, 125 x 5 = 625 etc., so in five steps you have thousands of people, at 12 steps billions people. ;D
Just like good old Wheat and chessboard problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem): one grain of wheat in the first square, two in the second one etc., and how many rise grains you have in the last square?
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Brilliant! I think this is why it is called 'the end'.
Bro...
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Well, for every patient with covid-19, each of them will in average infect 5 people more, they 5 each 5 people more etc. until you have several billion. Quite easy, 5 x 5 = 25, 25 x 5 = 125, 125 x 5 = 625 etc., so in five steps you have thousands of people, at 12 steps billions people. ;D
Just like good old Wheat and chessboard problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem): one grain of wheat in the first square, two in the second one etc., and how many rise grains you have in the last square?
Eighteen quintillion four hundred forty-six quadrillion seven hundred forty-four trillion seventy-three billion seven hundred nine million five hundred fifty-one thousand six hundred fifteen grains of wheat on the last square. Am I right?
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Wider than Heath.
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Wider than Heath.
But is it sexual?
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But is it sexual?
Coronakid & new Swedes = GOOD combo ;D
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Agreed.
That guy is a total asshole.
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aaaand, like I said, the famous Monday is here. Local resident creeps with The idiot Bot leading are promoting their retarded agenda. They have lost all credibility just like their moron president that is issuing fake websites, too little too late measures, accusing and pointing finger to others when asked why he closed the pandemic office recently and so on. All this shit is recorded and there to watch for all the world to see. The Long Lost Retarded Boys of the so called Republican Party drowning in their own feces. Kleptomanic Shite, idiot The Lot, and mommyshitboner crying and losing their sleep over their diminished online characters.
Thank you Gaia
Long Live Free North America
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don't forget Desolate mind too..he dreams of tiny republican cawks
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aaaand, like I said, the famous Monday is here. Local resident creeps with The idiot Bot leading are promoting their retarded agenda. They have lost all credibility just like their moron president that is issuing fake websites, too little too late measures, accusing and pointing finger to others when asked why he closed the pandemic office recently and so on. All this shit is recorded and there to watch for all the world to see. The Long Lost Retarded Boys of the so called Republican Party drowning in their own feces. Kleptomanic Shite, idiot The Lot, and mommyshitboner crying and losing their sleep over their diminished online characters.
Thank you Gaia
Long Live Free North America
WTF are you babbling about?
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you have not seen anything yet,....wait for the next Monday. Stay home and thank me later.
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Just a bit of anecdotal evidence on the ground.
On March 1st. I ran in a 5K with 5000 other runners in New York City. At the start of these races you get crammed into corrals and hang there for about 15 minutes. It was a cold dry day where a virus would’ve thrived. I know several other people who ran in this race. Apparently the virus starts to show symptoms in 5 to 14 days. No one has gotten sick.
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obesekid is joining the ranks of the backward crew. ThinLizzy will see where you stand soon...
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crises tend to bring out the best and the worst in people. I already lived through one, when the country I was born in, fell apart. The advantage of this has been that I can recognise shitty personalities, relatively easily. Lets see who else is going to out themselves on this board, beside the usual republican cretins.
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watch YOUR bitch president scrambling for cover when asked the question...I didnt do it...what a bitch! This coward would leave you on the battlefield, high and dry, 100%.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-question-sot-vpx.cnn
Obama was a good man. Another bitch was Clinton that bombed Serbia, when we were fighting the extreme islamic offensive toward Europe in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Look at Europe now. Thanks Bill, may you rot in hell!
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And ironically, that pic you got from social "media" to post here, is also manipulating your life and opinions.
The Coronavirus is accelerating much more rapidly than Swine Flu, hence the panic. Also it has a higher mortality rate. Hospitals are being and will be overloaded if the virus is allowed to spread without doing anything to slow it. It will easily catch and overtake swine flu numbers at the current rate of infection.
If coronavirus infects 60 million people like swine flu, and has the death rate in your pic, 1,715,575 people will die.
So 12,496 deaths for swine flu vs 1,715,575 deaths for coronavirus in the USA if 60 million infected. If only a quarter of those 60 million people get officially tested, that's still 428,000 deaths.
The red line is going up in almost a straight line, its 6500 deaths now. The power of the exponential function.
I realize that the coronavirus has a high mortality rate, but there are 80,000 cases in China and the transmission is already slowing down.
I don't see how 80,000 cases in China, a country of over 1 billion people equates to 60 million cases in the US.
Also the graph you posted is deceptive. The virus started over 120 days ago not 60. If you look at a graph from China you'll see it's hardly exponential.
If the transmission rate is so high why did they have to manipulate the graph? ???
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Give it another week or two people will start to figure out that the hysteria was way overblown.
To date, in New York City, there has been exactly zero previously HEALTHY people who have succumbed to this virus.
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watch YOUR bitch president scrambling for cover when asked the question...I didnt do it...what a bitch! This coward would leave you on the battlefield, high and dry, 100%.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-question-sot-vpx.cnn
Obama was a good man. Another bitch was Clinton that bombed Serbia, when we were fighting the extreme islamic offensive toward Europe in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Look at Europe now. Thanks Bill, may you rot in hell!
Dearth gimmick outed.
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if a few billion people die , what is the problem . . . ? ???
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Wife walked out the door this morning with no fear as she starts work managing one of the major test clinics set up downtown Toronto. Woman doesn't need to work at all and jumps right into the front lines of dealing with this, literally face to face. I would say the chances of me getting this are big. Bring it COVID!
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watch YOUR bitch president scrambling for cover when asked the question...I didnt do it...what a bitch! This coward would leave you on the battlefield, high and dry, 100%.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-question-sot-vpx.cnn
Obama was a good man. Another bitch was Clinton that bombed Serbia, when we were fighting the extreme islamic offensive toward Europe in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Look at Europe now. Thanks Bill, may you rot in hell!
borsen8 gimmick outed.
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you have not seen anything yet,....wait for the next Monday. Stay home and thank me later.
You're still alive? I thought you and all your pisanos were piled up on the roadside outside of Milan.
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Wife walked out the door this morning with no fear as she starts work managing one of the major test clinics set up downtown Toronto. Woman doesn't need to work at all and jumps right into the front lines of dealing with this, literally face to face. I would say the chances of me getting this are big. Bring it COVID!
Hell yes! Stand up and fight.
I love it.
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Give it another week or two people will start to figure out that the hysteria was way overblown.
To date, in New York City, there has been exactly zero previously HEALTHY people who have succumbed to this virus.
That's what I'm thinking.
Nobody is reacting to the virus anymore only reacting to what the previous group did.
One NBA player has the virus --> isolate the entire team --> Shut down the NBA --> shut down all professional sports --> all amateur sports --> might as well shut down all the schools --> NOBODY LEAVE YOUR HOUSE OR YOU'LL DIE!!!
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In a week or two the numbers of cases will be so massive you won't believe it.
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Idris Elba becomes one of the small handful of famous to come down with it -
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/idris-elba-coronavirus-1203535677/ .
Seems mildly sick, and in good spirits from the video posted below -
https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1239617034901524481 .
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aaaand, like I said, the famous Monday is here. Local resident creeps with The idiot Bot leading are promoting their retarded agenda. They have lost all credibility just like their moron president that is issuing fake websites, too little too late measures, accusing and pointing finger to others when asked why he closed the pandemic office recently and so on. All this shit is recorded and there to watch for all the world to see. The Long Lost Retarded Boys of the so called Republican Party drowning in their own feces. Kleptomanic Shite, idiot The Lot, and mommyshitboner crying and losing their sleep over their diminished online characters.
Thank you Gaia
Long Live Free North America
You are not American , so stop bullshitting Serbian !
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watch YOUR bitch president scrambling for cover when asked the question...I didnt do it...what a bitch! This coward would leave you on the battlefield, high and dry, 100%.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-question-sot-vpx.cnn
Obama was a good man. Another bitch was Clinton that bombed Serbia, when we were fighting the extreme islamic offensive toward Europe in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Look at Europe now. Thanks Bill, may you rot in hell!
Oh NOOOO , NATO destroyed Serbia in 1999 ;D .
Why you are drinking so much !.
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Well, for every patient with covid-19, each of them will in average infect 5 people more, they 5 each 5 people more etc. until you have several billion. Quite easy, 5 x 5 = 25, 25 x 5 = 125, 125 x 5 = 625 etc., so in five steps you have thousands of people, at 12 steps billions people. ;D
Just like good old Wheat and chessboard problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem): one grain of wheat in the first square, two in the second one etc., and how many rise grains you have in the last square?
It's gonna be as big as...
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don't forget Desolate mind too..he dreams of tiny republican cawks
You're a sad, pathetic gimmick. :-*
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Just got back from mountain biking, trailhead is packed, trail is packed, booty shorts out in full force, no face masks, no panic.
Weird.
LMAO wtf...
Death to the Traitors dearth / ilalin / borsen8
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That's what I'm thinking.
Nobody is reacting to the virus anymore only reacting to what the previous group did.
One NBA player has the virus --> isolate the entire team --> Shut down the NBA --> shut down all professional sports --> all amateur sports --> might as well shut down all the schools --> NOBODY LEAVE YOUR HOUSE OR YOU'LL DIE!!!
I believe the overreaction that you’re seeing is simply ass covering. Businesses don’t want to get sued. Government officials don’t wanna lose their jobs.
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I believe the overreaction that you’re seeing is simply ass covering. Businesses don’t want to get sued. Government officials don’t wanna lose their jobs.
I totally agree. Everyone is just trying to protect themselves.
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I’m saying that the dire predictions never came to fruition. The explosion into the heterosexual population never happened no matter what you’ve led to believe.
Man shall not lie with man for it is an abomination.
We were also told not to eat bats. This virus is not a surprise we have had it coming.
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I believe the overreaction that you’re seeing is simply ass covering. Businesses don’t want to get sued. Government officials don’t wanna lose their jobs.
That's what I think. No one wants to be accused of not doing enough.
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watch YOUR bitch president scrambling for cover when asked the question...I didnt do it...what a bitch! This coward would leave you on the battlefield, high and dry, 100%.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-pbs-yamiche-alcindor-question-sot-vpx.cnn
Obama was a good man. Another bitch was Clinton that bombed Serbia, when we were fighting the extreme islamic offensive toward Europe in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Look at Europe now. Thanks Bill, may you rot in hell!
It was the Democrats who launched the war against Serbia.
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Oh NOOOO , NATO destroyed Serbia in 1999 ;D .
Why you are drinking so much !.
Jugoslavian of peace.
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Half of you people posting on here better hope the virus isn't anything to worry about... if your grandparents die from it then whose basement will you be living in next?
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Trump is doing a good job
Trumpy is a part of the CABAL that has brought and is bringing all of this to fruition
You think that retard really cares about you or america(ns)???
When he said "A STORM IS COMING"... this is what he was talking about
A STORM represents TERRIBLE TROUBLE/TIMES
He is answering to his HANDLERS and they have already decided america's time is up..
They have CHINA as the new DIVA on the stage and since we can not have two divas on a stage at the same time... ONE MUST GO...
Guess which one is about to go down in flames???
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Half of you people posting on here better hope the virus isn't anything to worry about... if your grandparents die from it then whose basement will you be living in next?
They'll move into LurkerNoMores basement :D
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Half of you people posting on here better hope the virus isn't anything to worry about... if your grandparents die from it then whose basement will you be living in next?
I am living in Basile's basement right now
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I held a monthly Board meeting just now....conference call. Another meeting I have which was scheduled for next Wednesday morning has been cancelled. People paying attention and doing the best we can.
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Man shall not lie with man for it is an abomination.
We were also told not to eat bats. This virus is not a surprise we have had it coming.
Did they eat the bats raw? High temperatures kill the virus. Cook your food folks.
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The other day it was reported that there are 170,000 people with the coronavirus. How do we know this? Have all these people tested positive or do they just have a virus with similar symptoms?
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The other day it was reported that there are 170,000 people with the coronavirus. How do we know this? Have all these people tested positive or do they just have a virus with similar symptoms?
Amazingly, I agree with you on this one. And how do we know that the tests are accurate.
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I don't see how 80,000 cases in China, a country of over 1 billion people equates to 60 million cases in the US.
Because they are not testing people.
When you get the flu but don't need medical help, do you go to the doctor and ask to be tested to see if hou are sick? Or do you know you are sick, aren't that bad, bed rest will fix it, so you stay at home and like magic, you get better?
The test numbers outside of China are your severe guage pretty much. They can be used as an indicator to how many people require medical assistance. For anyone else not rocking up at a hospital, you won't be in the number.
These are the numbers:
50% of Americans are supposed to get it - 165M
5% will be severe 8.25M
2% of those sick will die 3.3M
Of the 8.25M expected severe cases, the US has 0.004M cases right now...... either it is super early and will hit like a tidal wave in 8 weeks time or it's overblown. Pick an option.
If it's really as bad as it's made out to be, in 1-2 weeks time we will see stuff being posted on Facebook and other social media by friends and people we know. My area is heavily 65yr+ and we know corona is already through thr suburb. If we don't hear much in 2-4 weeks then perhaps it is BS afterall.......
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It was the Democrats who launched the war against Serbia.
I know that. Clinton was and is a bitch along with his wife. I don't divide people between Republican and Democrats. It's just that Republicans are blindly following a coward.
I divide people between good and shitty. A lot of the shitty ones on this board.
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I know that. Clinton was and is a bitch along with his wife. I don't divide people between Republican and Democrats. It's just that Republicans are blindly following a coward.
I divide people between good and shitty. A lot of the shitty ones on this board.
You're hurting my feelings.
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They have CHINA as the new DIVA on the stage and since we can not have two divas on a stage at the same time... ONE MUST GO...
Guess which one is about to go down in flames???
China will go down you dickwit!
Business will shift a huge amount of production out of China and over to India and other areas to derisk.
Do you grasp how fucked up our supply chains just got? Business doesn't need thr govt to do anything, we will pull out ourselves and that will wreak havok on China.
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Because they are not testing people.
When you get the flu but don't need medical help, do you go to the doctor and ask to be tested to see if hou are sick? Or do you know you are sick, aren't that bad, bed rest will fix it, so you stay at home and like magic, you get better?
The test numbers outside of China are your severe guage pretty much. They can be used as an indicator to how many people require medical assistance. For anyone else not rocking up at a hospital, you won't be in the number.
These are the numbers:
50% of Americans are supposed to get it - 165M
5% will be severe 8.25M
2% of those sick will die 3.3M
Of the 8.25M expected severe cases, the US has 0.004M cases right now...... either it is super early and will hit like a tidal wave in 8 weeks time or it's overblown. Pick an option.
If it's really as bad as it's made out to be, in 1-2 weeks time we will see stuff being posted on Facebook and other social media by friends and people we know. My area is heavily 65yr+ and we know corona is already through thr suburb. If we don't hear much in 2-4 weeks then perhaps it is BS afterall.......
What is more, doctor's and hospitals don't want people showing up for tests if they only think they have the coronavirus. If you call your doctor or have someone do it for you to say you are experiencing life threatening respiratory distress, the doctor's office will tell you to go to an emergency room. On the other hand, if you show up at the emergency room and you are not experiencing a medical emergency, they will send you home. Most health insurance plans require you to pay the cost of an emergency room visit unless you are admitted to the hospital.
I recommend you cancel any non-emergency medical, dental and vision appointments. Do you really want someone working that close to you even if you both wear masks?
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Because they are not testing people.
When you get the flu but don't need medical help, do you go to the doctor and ask to be tested to see if hou are sick? Or do you know you are sick, aren't that bad, bed rest will fix it, so you stay at home and like magic, you get better?
The test numbers outside of China are your severe guage pretty much. They can be used as an indicator to how many people require medical assistance. For anyone else not rocking up at a hospital, you won't be in the number.
These are the numbers:
50% of Americans are supposed to get it - 165M
5% will be severe 8.25M
2% of those sick will die 3.3M
Of the 8.25M expected severe cases, the US has 0.004M cases right now...... either it is super early and will hit like a tidal wave in 8 weeks time or it's overblown. Pick an option.
If it's really as bad as it's made out to be, in 1-2 weeks time we will see stuff being posted on Facebook and other social media by friends and people we know. My area is heavily 65yr+ and we know corona is already through thr suburb. If we don't hear much in 2-4 weeks then perhaps it is BS afterall.......
The numbers I've seen are actually much worse than that. Experts are claiming 80% of Americans will get the virus.
That MAY happen......but there is ZERO evidence backing this up.
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Experts are claiming 80% of Americans will get the virus.
LINK
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LINK
Experts can claim anything they want. Nobody is going to hold them to it.
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LINK
https://nypost.com/2020/03/16/uk-officials-fear-coronavirus-will-infect-80-of-country-last-another-year/
Here's the UK.
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I held a monthly Board meeting just now....conference call. Another meeting I have which was scheduled for next Wednesday morning has been cancelled. People paying attention and doing the best we can.
it wasnt a board meeting, it was a karaoke at the old folks home you live in... ;D
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if a few billion people die , what is the problem . . . ? ???
You first, pal.
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borsen8 gimmick outed.
Ha - Good Guess - Your Likely Correct
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China appears to be on the down slide now
It’s peak effect lasted around 5wks
Likely the same for other countries also
There’s some news about a combination of drugs killing the virus in tests
A HIV & Malaria Drug IIRC.
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https://nypost.com/2020/03/16/uk-officials-fear-coronavirus-will-infect-80-of-country-last-another-year/
Here's the UK.
OK
. Experts are claiming 80% of Americans will get the virus.
LINK ?
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OK
LINK ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html
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Laughable rubbish.
One coward scaring another coward.
Folly.
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Arnold even got to mentioned he had some vegan food ::)
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I held a monthly Board meeting just now....conference call. Another meeting I have which was scheduled for next Wednesday morning has been cancelled. People paying attention and doing the best we can.
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:D
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Idris Elba becomes one of the small handful of famous to come down with it -
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/idris-elba-coronavirus-1203535677/ .
Seems mildly sick, and in good spirits from the video posted below -
https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1239617034901524481 .
Kristofer Hivju, best known for his roles on Game of Thrones and The Witcher, has tested positive for the COVID-19 novel coronavirus, making him the latest notable name to come down with the virus which has paralyzed much of the industrialized world. Hivju, who played Tormund Giantsbane in the long-running HBO series, had just joined The Witcher recently -- weeks before the production was shut down due to concerns over the spread of the virus. Nearly all TV and film productions have ground to a halt over the last couple of weeks, leaving the entertainment world in chaos as theaters close down and box office numbers plummet.
Hivju announced his diagnosis on social media. The revelation follows similar announcements by Tom Hanks and Idris Elba.
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;D
Looks a little too innocent for him.
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New Jersey announces 80 new coronavirus cases. Statewide total jumps to at least 178 positive tests.
The coronavirus outbreak in New Jersey increased to at least 178 cases on Monday with 80 new positive tests for COVID-19 announced by state officials with two deaths, as residents brace for sweeping new restrictions including a call for a statewide curfew, closure of all public and private schools and the shut down of casinos, dine-in restaurant service, theaters gyms and bars.
The latest numbers were made public on the state Department of Health’s website and by Gov. Phil Murphy during an afternoon briefing. Murphy also announced plans to mobilize the National Guard for the coronavirus response.
The two N.J. coronavirus deaths are linked, state officials have said. A religious education teacher from Freehold, Rita Fusco-Jackson, who was in her 50s, died on Thursday. Her death is connected to the death of John Brennan, a horse trainer who lived in Little Ferry.
Like Brennan, Fusco-Jackson’s family was involved in harness horse racing and the two deaths were connected through a family gathering in Monmouth County.
The age range for the new cases is 5-year-old to 93-years-old, marking the first known pediatric case in the state, according to Department of Health Commissioner Judy Persichelli.
“It’s the youngest child affected,” Persichelli said. "And that child is home.”
“The majority are hospitalized or have been hospitalized,” Persichelli said of the state’s 178 cases.
The county-by-county list of cases released by the state Monday includes:
Bergen County: 61
Essex County: 20
Hudson County: 19
Middlesex County: 17
Monmouth County: 14
Passaic County: 8
Union County: 8
Mercer County: 6
Morris County: 6
Burlington County: 5
Somerset County: 5
Camden County: 3
Ocean County: 3
Hunterdon County: 1
The counties were not identified for two of the new cases.
The latest update from New Jersey health officials comes hours after Murphy, along with governors in New York and Connecticut, made an unprecedented move in all three states to close all restaurants, bars, movie theaters, gyms and casinos beginning 8 p.m. Monday. All will be closed until further notice, though restaurants and bars will be allowed to offer takeout and delivery.
The coronavirus outbreak has continued to spread in New Jersey and there are now cases in 14 of 21 counties. Bergen County has the most coronavirus cases with 61, according to the state.
More than 175,000 people across the globe have been infected during the coronavirus pandemic and 6,700 people have died, according to Johns Hopkins University. In the United States, there are more than 4,000 confirmed cases and 69 deaths.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/new-jersey-announces-78-new-coronavirus-cases-statewide-total-jumps-to-at-least-176-positive-tests.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR0gtihjEAx5VnyvaXNXDkOZn1_ngkqxRFJ8oYDuDJ6cqiWfWREc_-_zhjE
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Looks a little too innocent for him.
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Laughable rubbish.
One coward scaring another coward.
Folly.
Agreed - Some Serious Scaremongering Going On & An Easy excersise in control of mass population
So many so easily fooled & frightened & ready to do exactly as their Masters Tell Them. 🙄
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Well not everybody can be so cool and bad ass as illuminati and tommywishbone ::)
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Well not everybody can be so cool and bad ass as illuminati and tommywishbone ::)
No not bad ass at all.
Just not buying into mass hysteria & mass control
Even if your so Gullible & wish to be fooled & controled
Some of us are able to Think & act for ourselves
You carry on as you wish.
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Former James Bond star, Olga Kurylenko, has taken to social media to reveal to her fans that she has been diagnosed with coronavirus. The actress, who starred alongside Daniel Craig in 2008's Quantum of Solace, told fans in a post on Instagram that she has been feeling ill for about a week, which led to her testing positive for coronavirus over the weekend. She seems to be in good spirits, however, and is urging others reading the post to take the current pandemic seriously.
"Locked up at home after having tested positive for coronavirus," Kurylenko wrote on Instagram. "I've actually been ill for almost a week now. Fever and fatigue are my main symptoms. Take care of yourself and do take this seriously!"
Kurylenko portrayed Camile in Quantum of Solace, Craig's second outing as James Bond. Camile had her own agenda in the film, just as Bond did, and the duo needed to work together to stop Mathieu Amalric's Dominic Greene. Quantum of Solace was the only Bond film that Kurylenko appeared in. She has since had roles in films such as Oblivion, The Water Diviner, and The Room, as well as the TV series Magic City.
The James Bond franchise itself has also been affected by the spreading of the coronavirus. No Time to Die, the 25th installment in the series and Craig's last outing as the titular character, was originally set to arrive in theaters next month. However, due to the ongoing crisis surrounding the virus, No Time to Die was pushed back to November.
Craig's final movie as James Bond is currently scheduled to hit theaters on November 25th.
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Italy May Soon Be Forced to Stop Treating Coronavirus Patients Over 80
Italian hospitals, buckling under a surge of coronavirus patients, may soon have to deny intensive care treatment to people over 80, according to draft plans for the next phase of the crisis.
A written proposal by the civil protection department of the badly-hit northern region of Piedmont, seen by The Telegraph newspaper, warns that the constant rise in patients means that demand for intensive care resources will outstrip supply. That will force health authorities to choose who gets treated and who doesn’t — with those considered more likely to survive to get priority.
The document, which lays out guidelines for assessing who should get treatment once that tipping point is reached, proposes that people over 80, and those already in poor health, will be denied.
“The criteria for access to intensive therapy in cases of emergency must include age of less than 80 or a score on the Charlson comorbidity Index [measuring what other medical conditions the patient has] of less than 5,” says the document.
Luigi Icardi, a health councillor in Piedmont, said the protocols would establish binding priorities for who receives treatment, based on their chance of survival. “I never wanted to see such a moment,” he said.
The document reportedly only needs approval from a technical-scientific committee before being sent to hospitals. Government sources said the same criteria were expected to be rolled out throughout Italy, the Telegraph reported.
Doctors in Italy, where the epidemic is worse than in any place outside China, have been warning that it will cause their healthcare system to collapse as the unending flow of new patients pushes ICU bed capacity to breaking point. A national lockdown that was imposed last week has done nothing to slow the rise of infections and deaths; officials reported 368 new fatalities on Sunday, the greatest day-on-day increase in the country so far.
Nearly 25,000 people have been tested positive for the virus in Italy, and a total of 1,809 people have died there, out of about 6,000 deaths worldwide. Experts have speculated that the high death toll in Italy is linked to the age of its population, which is the oldest in Europe.
The Italian document adds to the alarming picture of the threat facing the elderly as the pandemic rages in more than 100 countries. In the UK, Health Minister Matt Hancock said Sunday that people over 70 will soon be asked to stay at home for up to four months to protect themselves.
Speaking to the BBC, Hancock said the measure, expected to be announced in coming weeks, was “a very big ask,” but that it was a necessary restriction to try to protect them, as the virus was anticipated to spread widely through the community.
The warning came as details of a secret government briefing to top officials in Britain’s health system laid out the expected impact of the outbreak in the UK. The document, reported by The Guardian Sunday, predicted that the outbreak will last until spring 2021, infect up to 80 percent of the population, and require about 8 million people (about 15 percent) to be hospitalized.
Cover: Hospital personnel seen at the window of the Gemelli hospital where Columbus Covid 2 hospital opened to treat COVID virus patients, in Rome, Monday, March 16, 2020. The vast majority of people recover from the new coronavirus. According to the World Health Organization, most people recover in about two to six weeks, depending on the severity of the illness.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dmqxb/italy-may-soon-be-forced-to-stop-treating-coronavirus-patients-over-80?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook&utm_content=1584369005&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2s9pC1xl7VwnL4D-jZcY-zjVhrAgmMM4gKmQvFuJhSK-lwYXGfSaBt_CI
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Some remarkable coincidences. I wouldn't be surprised if the book breaks into the top twenty best-seller list. Good for Koontz.
Not in the top ten but listed for as much as $295 on Amazon. Wow!
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"selling"
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I realize that the coronavirus has a high mortality rate, but there are 80,000 cases in China and the transmission is already slowing down.
I don't see how 80,000 cases in China, a country of over 1 billion people equates to 60 million cases in the US.
Also the graph you posted is deceptive. The virus started over 120 days ago not 60. If you look at a graph from China you'll see it's hardly exponential.
If the transmission rate is so high why did they have to manipulate the graph? ???
China forced people to lock themselves in their homes to stop the spread starting in January, they were very strict about it. Do you think Americans would voluntarily lock themselves in their homes for over a month? From traffic data coming out of Wuhan (11 million population), there is still very low activity, so people are still quarantined since January 25th. That's nearly 2 months of quarantine. Americans won't do this which means infections will skyrocket.
The graph I posted is deaths not infected. You graph you just posted is already out of date as there are 27,980 infected in italy, not 12,462. And all other countries is 101,529 cases not 16,966. See how fast it's increasing?
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This is traffic congestion nearly two months after lockdown of a 11 million person city, the city is still dead, barely any traffic!!! That's why China is controlling it, they shut down everything, nobody leave their homes for months!!!
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No not bad ass at all.
Just not buying into mass hysteria & mass control
Even if your so Gullible & wish to be fooled & controled
Some of us are able to Think & act for ourselves
You carry on as you wish.
And how do you do that exactly, think and act for yourselves? Will you go to the gym even though it's locked? Will you meet up with other people even though there's a risk of getting the virus and infecting somebody elder or with an illness that might die because of it?
Will you stop washing your hands?
Let me know all the AWESOME stuff you guys do that others dont, you who can think and act for yourself!
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"selling"
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China forced people to lock themselves in their homes to stop the spread starting in January, they were very strict about it. Do you think Americans would voluntarily lock themselves in their homes for over a month? From traffic data coming out of Wuhan (11 million population), there is still very low activity, so people are still quarantined since January 25th. That's nearly 2 months of quarantine. Americans won't do this which means infections will skyrocket.
The graph I posted is deaths not infected. You graph you just posted is already out of date as there are 27,980 infected in italy, not 12,462. And all other countries is 101,529 cases not 16,966. See how fast it's increasing?
Right click, open image in new tab...
This is traffic congestion nearly two months after lockdown of a 11 million person city, the city is still dead, barely any traffic!!! That's why China is controlling it, they shut down everything, nobody leave their homes for months!!!
So, how and when did it spread to so many other countries?
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The whacked out, spun out, brain dead mayor of San Francisco just order a "Shelter in Place" order for 6.5 million people. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!
Unenforceable, attention whoring shit.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Worker at busy N.J. mall tests positive for coronavirus: An employee at the Jersey Gardens mall in Elizabeth, one of the state’s largest shopping malls, has tested positive for the coronavirus, the mall’s owner said.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-updates-nj-curfew-closure-of-schools-gyms-bars-restaurants-casinos-and-more-everything-you-need-to-know-03162020.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR0I8_y39yUKc_AD95Qrj2ZBkjXqMtrYY46nw8dPtMtQImPoJMiHbAYum1Y&fbclid=IwAR1hRAyxBwcaVRm-Vq-2-eFuwBalSLFHapN-inBuB0_pgg3AAwdhrQ7yT_s
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Italy cannot take care of all and has to choose between people now.
Italy is choosing the young
Same with UK
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-outbreak-older-people-doctors-treatment-ethics (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-outbreak-older-people-doctors-treatment-ethics)
https://www.businessinsider.com/italys-doctors-are-forced-to-prioritize-saving-the-young-2020-3?r=US&IR=T (https://www.businessinsider.com/italys-doctors-are-forced-to-prioritize-saving-the-young-2020-3?r=US&IR=T)
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So, how and when did it spread to so many other countries?
It's been in China since November/December. So Chinese travelers have been travelling all over the world since then until lockdown, Chinese travelers have infected people wherever they traveled. Then the infected locals spread it around, the virus spreading stealthily due to long incubation period before symptoms show.
Just before Wuhan was shutdown, 5 million people left the city.
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1)
5 million people left Wuhan before China quarantined the city to contain the coronavirus outbreak
Ashley Collman Jan 28, 2020, 2:41 AM
- About 5 million people left Wuhan, China, before the lockdown last week, the city's mayor said Sunday.
- As of Monday, 81 people have died from Wuhan coronavirus, and more than 2,700 cases have been reported in mainland China.
- The virus has spread to 13 countries as well, with five confirmed cases in the US.
Note China started strict lockdown when with only 2700 cases at the time and it still increased to 80,000.
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Well not everybody can be so cool and bad ass as illuminati and tommywishbone ::)
"...Cool and bad ass..."?
No sir. Just not scared of the boogie man, or monsters, or nightmares.
Get a hold of yourself. Stand tall. Pretend people are watching.
You do not have to be strong and brave to act strong and brave.
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"...Cool and bad ass..."?
No sir. Just not scared of the boogie man, or monsters, or nightmares.
Get a hold of yourself. Stand tall. Pretend people are watching.
You do not have to be strong and brave to act strong and brave.
Too much Game of Thrones for you, give it a rest.
What a nerd.
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Just flu, bro
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“This is a very contagious — this is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible,” he said. “But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.” - A man baby with limited vocabulary trying to sound presidential aka leadership according to bigots like Kung
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-repeated-insistences-that-coronavirus-is-under-control-have-reached-a-critical-moment/ar-BB11gesM
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Trump’s repeated insistences that coronavirus is under control have reached a critical moment
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Energized by the stock markets’ late surge two days earlier, President Trump on Sunday offered assurances about the progress of the country’s fight against the novel coronavirus.
Mike Pence, Anthony S. Fauci, Brett Giroir, Jerome Adams, Deborah Birx standing in front of a crowd: President Trump leaves the news briefing room at the White House on Sunday. (Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)© Tasos Katopodis/AFP/Getty Images President Trump leaves the news briefing room at the White House on Sunday. (Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)
“This is a very contagious — this is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible,” he said. “But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”
It was a bit of optimism that seemed to run contrary to the moment. It was also a return to form for Trump, who has continually claimed that the virus is under control in the United States.
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He did so two weeks ago, during his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. At the time, there were still under 100 cases in the United States.
“We’ve done a great job. And I’ve gotten to know these professionals,” Trump said then. “They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.”
Since then, the number of confirmed cases in the country has risen an average of 30 percent a day. That’s confirmed cases; the actual number of cases is undoubtedly an order of magnitude higher. It’s hard to ascertain the actual number, in part because only about 30,000 tests have been conducted.
During his first briefing on the coronavirus, on Feb. 26, Trump insisted that the government had things well in hand.
“It’s going to be very well under control. Now, it may get bigger, it may get a little bigger. It may not get bigger at all. We’ll see what happens,” he said, later adding that the virus “is a little bit different [from the flu], but in some ways it’s easier and in some ways it’s a little bit tougher. But we have it so well under control. I mean, we really have done a very good job.”
He also said publicly that the virus was under control on Feb. 25, Feb. 24, Feb. 23, Jan. 30 and Jan. 22. That last example came during an interview with CNBC.
“We have it totally under control,” he said then. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s — going to be just fine.”
Needless to say, the government did not have it under control. The question now is whether the damage from the virus can be controlled, both directly — infections and deaths — and indirectly, in the strain it puts on the country’s health-care system. That strain could lead to additional deaths as lifesaving resources needed for other issues are consumed by coronavirus patients.
That grim reality has been experienced in Italy, where the number of coronavirus infections has continued to grow. As we noted last week, the increase in cases in the United States has tracked with the increase in Italy, trailing Italy by a bit over a week in the number of cases. On Sunday, there were nearly 3,700 cases in the United States, about where Italy was on March 6.
This is not a portrait of a country where coronavirus is under control.
a close up of a map
The good news is that the increase in confirmed cases in the United States is not climbing at the same rate as in Spain or China, growth rates that stand out when considering the shift since the 500th case was reported in each country. (Again, we reiterate the necessary caveat that the real, undetected number of cases in the United States is much larger.) The bad news is that it’s continuing to grow.
a close up of a map
Notice, though, how Italy and South Korea diverged at about the point that the United States has reached. South Korea, which conducted broad testing for the virus and implemented stringent social distancing measures, saw the number of new cases slow. Italy, which was slower to respond, has seen a continued increase.
a close up of a map
It offers a glimmer of hope for the United States: Are the measures being rolled out across the country enough to shift our trajectory to mirror that of South Korea? Might Trump’s repeated confidence about the virus being under control reflect such a shift?
Unfortunately, zooming back to the 100-case level suggests that it doesn’t. South Korea’s effort to limit the number of cases it was seeing was already evident at the point the United States has reached. The slope of the curve had already begun to shift downward.
a close up of a map
These are absolute numbers, so part of the reason that the rate of increase in the United States better mirrors that in Italy than in South Korea may be a function of the fact that the United States’ efforts to shift the behavior of its population is slower.
But that may just be optimism. As noted above, the United States has continued to average about 30 percent more confirmed cases each day since hitting the 500th case. That’s slower than Spain, but faster than both Italy and South Korea.
a screenshot of a cell phone
There is certainly value in the president calming Americans’ concerns about the coronavirus. The challenge for Trump, though, is that his assurances have been uncoupled from reality for months. It’s hard to see evidence for his claim that the virus is under control now just as it was hard to see how he could make a similar assurance in late January.
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If some portion of Trump’s confidence Sunday stemmed from his enthusiasm about the market surge Friday — he sent an autographed picture of the surge to his favorite host on Fox Business — that confidence has probably waned. Markets opened down significantly Monday morning.
The threat to the economy isn’t demonstrably under control, either.
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So, how and when did it spread to so many other countries?
For Italy
"" On 31 January, the first two cases of COVID-19 were confirmed in Rome. A Chinese couple, originally from Wuhan, who had arrived in Italy on January 23 via Milan Malpensa Airport travelled from the airport to Verona, then to Parma, arriving in Rome on 28 January. The next afternoon, they developed a cough, and by evening the man had a fever; the couple were taken to Lazzaro Spallanzani National Institute for Infectious Diseases where they tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and were hospitalised.[20][2] The Italian government suspended all flights to and from China and declared a state of emergency. Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said Italy was the first EU country to take this kind of precautionary measure.[21] The government also introduced thermal scanners and temperature checks on international passengers arriving at Italian airports.[22] ""
This was the next 6 weeks or so:
1/31/2020 2 (n.a.)
2/6/2020 3 (+50%)
2/21/2020 20 (+567%)
2/22/2020 79 (+295%)
2/23/2020 150 (+90%)
2/24/2020 227 (+51%)
2/25/2020 320 (+41%)
2/26/2020 445 (+39%)
2/27/2020 650 (+46%)
2/28/2020 888 (+37%)
2/29/2020 1,128 (+27%)
3/1/2020 1,694 (+50%)
3/2/2020 2,036 (+20%)
3/3/2020 2,502 (+23%)
3/4/2020 3,089 (+23%)
3/5/2020 3,858 (+25%)
3/6/2020 4,636 (+20%)
3/7/2020 5,883 (+27%)
3/8/2020 7,375 (+25%)
3/9/2020 9,172 (+24%)
3/10/2020 10,149 (+11%)
3/11/2020 12,462 (+23%)
3/12/2020 15,113 (+21%)
3/13/2020 17,660 (+17%)
3/14/2020 21,157 (+20%)
3/15/2020 24,747 (+17%)
3/16/2020 27,980 (+13%[ii])
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you have not seen anything yet,....wait for the next Monday. Stay home and thank me later.
Life's too short, specially for old guys like me. I'm not hibernating unless I get sick with the virus and am contagious. Went to the gym as usual today and will do the same tomorrow and everyday there after. To do otherwise is to give in to something which may never happen. Stay strong!
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if a few billion people die , what is the problem . . . ? ???
If that happens, you will definitely know what the problem is.
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Wife walked out the door this morning with no fear as she starts work managing one of the major test clinics set up downtown Toronto. Woman doesn't need to work at all and jumps right into the front lines of dealing with this, literally face to face. I would say the chances of me getting this are big. Bring it COVID!
Stay healthy and be strong. The virus goes after the weak and sick.
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Half of you people posting on here better hope the virus isn't anything to worry about... if your grandparents die from it then whose basement will you be living in next?
This is exactly what I told my kids and grand kids who live with me! Now they are trying to make me stay at home in isolation (not really). Actually, I'm doing everything I can to stay strong and healthy. I don't want to be a candidate for this virus. Lots of rest, healthy food, exercise and an upbeat attitude. It's all good.
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it wasnt a board meeting, it was a karaoke at the old folks home you live in... ;D
Well everyone on the board is either retired or semi-retired so you could be right....only you aren't. Fortunately, we all can afford to and are healthy enough to live in our own homes. Plus, I suck at karaoke. Being the board chair is more my style.
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;D
LOL! Maybe someday, but not yet.
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Wife walked out the door this morning with no fear as she starts work managing one of the major test clinics set up downtown Toronto. Woman doesn't need to work at all and jumps right into the front lines of dealing with this, literally face to face. I would say the chances of me getting this are big. Bring it COVID!
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Looks a little too innocent for him.
Exactly! This is more my style....
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The sky is falling!!!! ::) ::) ::)
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I wouldn't mind this lady playing footsie with me.
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If that happens, you will definitely know what the problem is.
Makes one wonder whether they are acting on a moral question or a financial one.
Flexatron posted a real eye opener point in one of these threads.
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No not bad ass at all.
Just not buying into mass hysteria & mass control
Even if your so Gullible & wish to be fooled & controled
Some of us are able to Think & act for ourselves
You carry on as you wish.
Exactly. If I get the virus, I'll put myself in quarantine. Unless that happens, I am going to continue living my life as best as I can with our governor shutting everything down. Oregon currently has 47 known cases of coronavirus. Oregon has over 4 million residents. This is just insane.
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And how do you do that exactly, think and act for yourselves? Will you go to the gym even though it's locked? Will you meet up with other people even though there's a risk of getting the virus and infecting somebody elder or with an illness that might die because of it?
Will you stop washing your hands?
Let me know all the AWESOME stuff you guys do that others dont, you who can think and act for yourself!
Why is it necessary to exaggerate what people will or won't do. If the gym is locked, don't go. You'd have to break in and that's a crime. With everything closed, there's not much to do if you meet up with other people. Where are you going to meet? Everything is closed. If you get the virus take the appropriate steps to make sure you don't spread it. Elderly people, specially those who are ill eventually die from something or other (I say this and I am elderly) it is just a fact of life. And lastly, why would you ask such a stupid question as "will you stop washing your hands?" No, I am not going to stop washing my hands, in fact, I am washing them more than ever.
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For Italy
This was the next 6 weeks or so:
1/31/2020 2 (n.a.)
2/6/2020 3 (+50%)
2/21/2020 20 (+567%)
2/22/2020 79 (+295%)
2/23/2020 150 (+90%)
2/24/2020 227 (+51%)
2/25/2020 320 (+41%)
2/26/2020 445 (+39%)
2/27/2020 650 (+46%)
2/28/2020 888 (+37%)
2/29/2020 1,128 (+27%)
3/1/2020 1,694 (+50%)
3/2/2020 2,036 (+20%)
3/3/2020 2,502 (+23%)
3/4/2020 3,089 (+23%)
3/5/2020 3,858 (+25%)
3/6/2020 4,636 (+20%)
3/7/2020 5,883 (+27%)
3/8/2020 7,375 (+25%)
3/9/2020 9,172 (+24%)
3/10/2020 10,149 (+11%)
3/11/2020 12,462 (+23%)
3/12/2020 15,113 (+21%)
3/13/2020 17,660 (+17%)
3/14/2020 21,157 (+20%)
3/15/2020 24,747 (+17%)
3/16/2020 27,980 (+13%[ii])
Supposed to double every 2-4 days, slowing as you near the peak. At first you can see the 2 day multiple then it slows to 4 day but now it has slowed again.
Italy were deemed the worst, therefore arguably should get the highest infection rate. Lets say 80%.
Population 60M @ 80% infection is 48M.
Death rate of 2% is 0.96M
Infection of 48M vs reported 0.0028M and data showing it has slowed meaning it should be nearing the peak. That is at odds to the shutdown timing. Incubation is 2 weeks + 1 week to feel bad. The numbers should continue to increase for at least 1-2 weeks before any impact (if any) from the.shutdowns shows a slowing.
Therefore the conclusion is they are slowing down their diagnosis of the virus just like everybody else.
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Too much Game of Thrones for you, give it a rest.
What a nerd.
Don't watch TV but thanks.
Tom
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For Italy
"" On 31 January, the first two cases of COVID-19 were confirmed in Rome. A Chinese couple, originally from Wuhan, who had arrived in Italy on January 23 via Milan Malpensa Airport travelled from the airport to Verona, then to Parma, arriving in Rome on 28 January. The next afternoon, they developed a cough, and by evening the man had a fever; the couple were taken to Lazzaro Spallanzani National Institute for Infectious Diseases where they tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and were hospitalised.[20][2] The Italian government suspended all flights to and from China and declared a state of emergency. Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said Italy was the first EU country to take this kind of precautionary measure.[21] The government also introduced thermal scanners and temperature checks on international passengers arriving at Italian airports.[22] ""
This was the next 6 weeks or so:
1/31/2020 2 (n.a.)
2/6/2020 3 (+50%)
2/21/2020 20 (+567%)
2/22/2020 79 (+295%)
2/23/2020 150 (+90%)
2/24/2020 227 (+51%)
2/25/2020 320 (+41%)
2/26/2020 445 (+39%)
2/27/2020 650 (+46%)
2/28/2020 888 (+37%)
2/29/2020 1,128 (+27%)
3/1/2020 1,694 (+50%)
3/2/2020 2,036 (+20%)
3/3/2020 2,502 (+23%)
3/4/2020 3,089 (+23%)
3/5/2020 3,858 (+25%)
3/6/2020 4,636 (+20%)
3/7/2020 5,883 (+27%)
3/8/2020 7,375 (+25%)
3/9/2020 9,172 (+24%)
3/10/2020 10,149 (+11%)
3/11/2020 12,462 (+23%)
3/12/2020 15,113 (+21%)
3/13/2020 17,660 (+17%)
3/14/2020 21,157 (+20%)
3/15/2020 24,747 (+17%)
3/16/2020 27,980 (+13%[ii])
These numbers perfectly demonstrate what I'm talking about.
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The UK government is being savage. They basically want the virus to steadily work it's way through the population taking out many of those who put a strain on the system. My guess is there will be 200,000 corona related deaths in 12 months.
I didn't think any government would have the balls to do that. The US looks to be doing the same thing although I'm not sure it's by design.
Getbigger bringing you all the government plans and predictions before they release the information to the wider public. UK government trying to do some damage limitation now to appease the public, no backing out now though. If our fatter American friends take the same savage course of action as the Brits they are looking at a million deaths.
The government ramped up measures against the coronavirus epidemic following new predictions that the UK could otherwise have seen 250,000 deaths.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-govt-ramped-up-measures-after-new-prediction-of-250-000-deaths-11958680
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Supposed to double every 2-4 days, slowing as you near the peak. At first you can see the 2 day multiple then it slows to 4 day but now it has slowed again.
Italy were deemed the worst, therefore arguably should get the highest infection rate. Lets say 80%.
Population 60M @ 80% infection is 48M.
Death rate of 2% is 0.96M
Infection of 48M vs reported 0.0028M and data showing it has slowed meaning it should be nearing the peak. That is at odds to the shutdown timing. Incubation is 2 weeks + 1 week to feel bad. The numbers should continue to increase for at least 1-2 weeks before any impact (if any) from the.shutdowns shows a slowing.
Therefore the conclusion is they are slowing down their diagnosis of the virus just like everybody else.
These numbers perfectly demonstrate what I'm talking about.
They started quarantining on Feb 23, 2020 with only 79 cases. That was 3 weeks ago.
https://www.insider.com/italy-quarantines-cities-over-coronavirus-2020-2 (https://www.insider.com/italy-quarantines-cities-over-coronavirus-2020-2)
If you don't quarantine early like china and italy the numbers will explode.
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They started quarantining on Feb 23, 2020 with only 79 cases. That was 3 weeks ago.
https://www.insider.com/italy-quarantines-cities-over-coronavirus-2020-2 (https://www.insider.com/italy-quarantines-cities-over-coronavirus-2020-2)
If you don't quarantine early like china and italy the numbers will explode.
The numbers haven't exploded. That's the point.
There is supposed to be 48M in Italy infected by this highly infectious virus. They have 28k with the increase slowing which suggests the peak is near according to them.
Seasonal flu in Italy hits 3M people, kills 70k each year.
This has gotten 28k, killed 2k...... and they shut down a country of 66M......
The data along with such severe shutdowns is not stacking up with what we have been told.
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The numbers haven't exploded. That's the point.
There is supposed to be 48M in Italy infected by this highly infectious virus. They have 28k with the increase slowing which suggests the peak is near according to them.
That's because they quarantined, don't you get it?
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I wouldn't mind this lady playing footsie with me.
This reminds me to pick up the latest novel from Danielle Steel.. "The Lady Wore Slacks".
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There already is a cure/protection from the virus but the Western world won't allow it
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The numbers haven't exploded. That's the point.
There is supposed to be 48M in Italy infected by this highly infectious virus. They have 28k with the increase slowing which suggests the peak is near according to them.
Seasonal flu in Italy hits 3M people, kills 70k each year.
This has gotten 28k, killed 2k...... and they shut down a country of 66M......
The data along with such severe shutdowns is not stacking up with what we have been told.
Exactly- Well Said.
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I know that. Clinton was and is a bitch along with his wife. I don't divide people between Republican and Democrats. It's just that Republicans are blindly following a coward.
I divide people between good and shitty. A lot of the shitty ones on this board.
No bigger cowards in Europe than Serbians , who didn't learn about Croatian operation Storm, Serbs "army" was totally destroyed
in 72 hours by Croats ;D ;D ;D. USAF attacked Serbs airforces in Bosnia at the same time ,without any casualties .
Don't upset Northern Macedonia, they could trash Serbia too :D
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I wouldn't mind this lady playing footsie with me.
its a tranny... ;D
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its a tranny... ;D
Even better. You can play cocksie
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If theyre no longer testing, we cannot know how many are infected.
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It's been in China since November/December. So Chinese travelers have been travelling all over the world since then until lockdown, Chinese travelers have infected people wherever they traveled. Then the infected locals spread it around, the virus spreading stealthily due to long incubation period before symptoms show.
Just before Wuhan was shutdown, 5 million people left the city.
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1)
5 million people left Wuhan before China quarantined the city to contain the coronavirus outbreak
Ashley Collman Jan 28, 2020, 2:41 AM
- About 5 million people left Wuhan, China, before the lockdown last week, the city's mayor said Sunday.
- As of Monday, 81 people have died from Wuhan coronavirus, and more than 2,700 cases have been reported in mainland China.
- The virus has spread to 13 countries as well, with five confirmed cases in the US.
Note China started strict lockdown when with only 2700 cases at the time and it still increased to 80,000.
The American city with the largest Chinese population is New York. Yet, there’s been no outbreak here. Hospitals are not overrun. Only a handful of people have died and they’ve all been either very old and sick or middle-aged with diabetes and heart disease. In other words, they all had pre-existing health conditions so you can’t even say that it was corona which killed them.
There have been literally no precautions taken here until the last week when everybody has gotten all crazy. How many parties, sporting events, concerts, plays and school classes have taken place in the last few months?
If it’s really bad as we have been told shouldn’t things be much worse here?
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The American city with the largest Chinese population is New York. Yet, there’s been no outbreak here. Hospitals are not overrun. Only a handful of people have died and they’ve all been either very old and sick or middle-aged with diabetes and heart disease. In other words, they all had pre-existing health conditions so you can’t even say that it was corona which killed them.
There have been literally no precautions taken here until the last week when everybody has gotten all crazy. How many parties, sporting events, concerts, plays and school classes have taken place in the last few months?
If it’s really bad as we have been told shouldn’t things be much worse here?
This is from today, it's starting to pick up steam.
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more New York
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"Study: Coronavirus Lockdown Likely Saved 77,000 Lives In China Just By Reducing Pollution"
China’s coronavirus lockdown likely saved tens of thousands of lives by slashing air pollution from factories and vehicles, according to a new analysis by a Stanford University scientist.
Two months of pollution reduction “likely has saved the lives of 4,000 kids under 5 and 73,000 adults over 70 in China,”
In italy:
(https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/sites/default/files/inline-images/comparison.jpg)
Nature just need a breather!
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Get back in the kitchen and put on your oven mitts
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This is from today, it's starting to pick up steam.
It’s picking up steam because the panic and hysteria is so great that anybody who coughs once thinks they have it and some head to the hospitals.
What has really picked up steam has been the government and business reactions. It’s gone from nothing to everything shutting down, all events canceling and the public schools closing in a week.
While I generally don’t trust governments, I don’t have a bias in this fight. If it were bad I would say it’s bad. It’s not. And if you’re going to tell me to just wait you’re gonna have to explain why we made it through the worst part of flu season without an outbreak and now it’s going to takeoff when the season is about to end.
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Chicken Little Virus, aka CLV is the bigger problem. It's not that I don't worry about the CoronaVirus but rather that I don't give a fuck about the spread of Corona to turd-worlders because the USA is not some turd-world kuntry.
What's hurting more people is the spread of CLV.
Personally, I hope the disease destroys and decimates ChiCom and islime. The Chinese Communists wiped out how many female babies? The muslimes are the real plague and if Corona kills 'em off, that's great for the Civilized World.
But any that feeeeeeeeeeeeel that divershitty is the way I hope they get it and promptly assume room temperature, regardless of nationality, skin color, hair color, eye color, religious beliefs or lack thereof.
So here's to CNN and PMSNBC shutting down. Here's to all those poor, huddled asses, yearning to fleece the Civilized World dropping dead. Here's to Merkel going the way of the Dodo. Here's to Trudeau going over the falls never to return. Here's to the Green Meanies turning up red roses, including that insufferable cuntlette, Greta Thunberg and her parental units. And oh yeah...Fuck Arnold Schwarzenegger too. Fucking douche.
Here's to the end of the EU and all it's "leaders". Liberalism deserves extinction. Let the CoronaVirus be the comet that wipes them clean off the face of the Earth.
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(https://selfpublishingafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/state-of-denial.jpg)
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What a crock of shit....
This guy is probably a climate "scientist", his whole life revolves making incorrect predictions and making up numbers for political reasons. Piece of shit.
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What a crock of shit....
This guy is probably a climate "scientist", his whole life revolves making incorrect predictions and making up numbers for political reasons. Piece of shit.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
If polution is dangerous to peoples health and we get less of it, then peoples health will be better off.
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Seems pretty straight forward to me.
If polution is dangerous to peoples health and we get less of it, then peoples health will be better off.
It's nonsense. No one can accurately predict and come up with the numbers these clowns do.
These models are always wrong... And yet these muppets keep modelling and keep expousing their "amazing" results, it's pop science and always has an agenda.
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It's nonsense. No one can accurately predict and come up with the numbers these clowns do.
These models are always wrong... And yet these muppets keep modelling and keep expousing their "amazing" results, it's pop science and always has an agenda.
Doesn't matter.
Facts remains that when we get less of a bad thing, then that's a good thing.
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FriedChickenDinner belongs in 3 places:
The Kitchen 👗
The Laundry Room 🧺
The Bedroom 🛏
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more New York
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=662620.0;attach=788291;image)
So, they treated around 12 people, who possibly had the virus? ???
In a 12 hour shift, that's 1 person per hour, with a fever and cough. Yes, sounds like total chaos. ::)
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So, they treated around 12 people, who possibly had the virus? ???
In a 12 hour shift, that's 1 person per hour, with a fever and cough. Yes, sounds like total chaos. ::)
Even President Trump admits it.
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on the theme of am I missing something - what about this:
What is the worst possible case scenario. The worst possible case scenario is everyone, every man woman and child in the US, gets the corona virus. Then what? A lot of old people die. And then it passes.
Maybe the problem is in the fighting it, not in the having it.
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No bigger cowards in Europe than Serbians , who didn't learn about Croatian operation Storm, Serbs "army" was totally destroyed
in 72 hours by Croats ;D ;D ;D. USAF attacked Serbs airforces in Bosnia at the same time ,without any casualties .
Don't upset Northern Macedonia, they could trash Serbia too :D
Yeah, with the help of several Nato countries. That's like when Hitler entered capital of Zagreb, the Croation population met him with flowers. Belgrade, the capital of Serbia was empty, until Serbs started stabbing them with partisan action in the throat.
Learn some history before you mouth defecate.
In the meantime, it seems like we are on the verge of using violence to control idiots like the ones on this board. Well, it's life. A few morons will have to be killed to drive home a point to respect quarantine.
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Doesn't matter.
Facts remains that when we get less of a bad thing, then that's a good thing.
Oversimplification, rubbish post^
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Oversimplification, rubbish post^
Let's try it again and see if I can give an example that you would understand:
Example 1: You get fucked in the ass by a man carrying AIDS.
Example 2: You're not getting fucked in the ass by a man carrying AIDS, because that man is staying at home.
Which one of the two examples are more likely to give you AIDS?
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on the theme of am I missing something - what about this:
What is the worst possible case scenario. The worst possible case scenario is everyone, every man woman and child in the US, gets the corona virus. Then what? A lot of old people die. And then it passes.
Maybe the problem is in the fighting it, not in the having it.
Are you suggesting that people who get diseases should not be treated?
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So, they treated around 12 people, who possibly had the virus? ???
In a 12 hour shift, that's 1 person per hour, with a fever and cough. Yes, sounds like total chaos. ::)
:D Thank you sir. It ain't chaos. Not even close.
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Trump is now calling it the 'Chinese Virus' ;D
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Trump is now calling it the 'Chinese Virus' ;D
Yup! President Trump is The MAN! The personification of Testicular Fortitude!
The ChiComs started this crap and I hope they decimate themselves with it. They can take islime with 'em. FTN.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/C1M6b3YG/5555.jpg)
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Seems like the classic "Vicious Cycle" has now been created.
Each day one politician tries to "one up" the previous politician by passing extremes measures to battle the virus. The new extreme policy causes the public to believe the virus is getting worse. To appease the public the politician then passes yet another extreme measure......
No one is reacting to what the virus is doing anymore.
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You're missing something allright...
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For Italy
"" On 31 January, the first two cases of COVID-19 were confirmed in Rome. A Chinese couple, originally from Wuhan, who had arrived in Italy on January 23 via Milan Malpensa Airport travelled from the airport to Verona, then to Parma, arriving in Rome on 28 January. The next afternoon, they developed a cough, and by evening the man had a fever; the couple were taken to Lazzaro Spallanzani National Institute for Infectious Diseases where they tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and were hospitalised.[20][2] The Italian government suspended all flights to and from China and declared a state of emergency. Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said Italy was the first EU country to take this kind of precautionary measure.[21] The government also introduced thermal scanners and temperature checks on international passengers arriving at Italian airports.[22] ""
This was the next 6 weeks or so:
1/31/2020 2 (n.a.)
2/6/2020 3 (+50%)
2/21/2020 20 (+567%)
2/22/2020 79 (+295%)
2/23/2020 150 (+90%)
2/24/2020 227 (+51%)
2/25/2020 320 (+41%)
2/26/2020 445 (+39%)
2/27/2020 650 (+46%)
2/28/2020 888 (+37%)
2/29/2020 1,128 (+27%)
3/1/2020 1,694 (+50%)
3/2/2020 2,036 (+20%)
3/3/2020 2,502 (+23%)
3/4/2020 3,089 (+23%)
3/5/2020 3,858 (+25%)
3/6/2020 4,636 (+20%)
3/7/2020 5,883 (+27%)
3/8/2020 7,375 (+25%)
3/9/2020 9,172 (+24%)
3/10/2020 10,149 (+11%)
3/11/2020 12,462 (+23%)
3/12/2020 15,113 (+21%)
3/13/2020 17,660 (+17%)
3/14/2020 21,157 (+20%)
3/15/2020 24,747 (+17%)
3/16/2020 27,980 (+13%[ii])
The last 4 days new cases totals are as follows: 3,497 3,590 3,233 and today 3,526
That's a classic linear progression. No evidence 200 plus Americans will contract the virus.
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You're missing something allright...
LOL at the lame attempt to keep the panic alive! :D
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LOL at the lame attempt to keep the panic alive! :D
TPTB have to take Trump down somehow...
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People got to stop making new Corona threads every ten seconds.
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Yup! President Trump is The MAN! The personification of Testicular Fortitude!
The ChiComs started this crap and I hope they decimate themselves with it. They can take islime with 'em. FTN.
no hope for you looney
I do hope you get into the following situation:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/us/kentucky-refused-quarantine-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
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the smelly Shot
IQ-onic Plight
Gastrolith
are the resident idiots that will entertain us during the crisis so we can laugh and enjoy the safety of our homes.
Thank you so much jerkoffs ;D
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They will tell us the historical and medical fairy tales. After the crisis is over they will be forgotten as fast as the last day's choice of a meal...
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just remember not to get into any discussions with them since their mania is not controlled with anti-psychotics...currently
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03 16 2020 :
France : 148 deaths
Italy : 1811 deaths
The cases figures do not give an appropriate picture of the infection anymore.
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Just flu, bro
Many have been recaptured. Escape started after the minimum security prisoners were told they wouldn't be allowed their scheduled week long furloughs because of fears of cross contamination. The escapees will be transferred to medium security prisons to finish their sentences when recaptured.
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its a tranny... ;D
How do you know? She must be your friend. ;)
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Even better. You can play cocksie
Is that somekind of game? I've never heard of it.
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People got to stop making new Corona threads every ten seconds.
this one is funny tho :D
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Are you suggesting that people who get diseases should not be treated?
That might depend on the rate of survival. If no one who has an acute case of the virus was surviving, what would be the point of treating them? Hopefully, this isn't the case.
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Seems like the classic "Vicious Cycle" has now been created.
Each day one politician tries to "one up" the previous politician by passing extremes measures to battle the virus. The new extreme policy causes the public to believe the virus is getting worse. To appease the public the politician then passes yet another extreme measure......
No one is reacting to what the virus is doing anymore.
And when this turns out to be a dud the politicians can claim victory as a result of their strategies.
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And when this turns out to be a dud the politicians can claim victory as a result of their strategies.
Exactly! They have nothing to lose.
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What a pisser. I just found out that all major gyms in the U.S, are closed indefinitely. Guess I won't be hitting the gym for awhile.
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Trump is now calling it the 'Chinese Virus' ;D
This chinese virus seem to prosper quite good in the America. 27th of Feb there were 60 covid-19 cases in US and 0 deaths. Today, 20 days later there is just under 5700 cases, and 97 deaths. Number has rise ~25-40% per day, so what happen next 20 days?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States)
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This chinese virus seem to prosper quite good in the America. 27th of Feb there were 60 covid-19 cases in US and 0 deaths. Today, 20 days later there is just under 5700 cases, and 97 deaths. Number has rise ~25-40% per day, so what happen next 20 days?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States)
it will gradually fizzle out, do you know around 6000 people have died of regular flu this year?
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What a pisser. I just found out that all major gyms in the U.S, are closed indefinitely. Guess I won't be hitting the gym for awhile.
Go to a minor gym them
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Go to a minor gym them
Good idea. ::) I take the eye roll back, one of the local gyms I belong to is open with no plans to close. So, thanks for your suggestion.
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it will gradually fizzle out, do you know around 6000 people have died of regular flu this year?
The only way it "fizzles out" later is through action items right now. Isolation it works.
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no hope for you looney
I do hope you get into the following situation:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/us/kentucky-refused-quarantine-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
You can go the way of the Dodo. This isn't the real world so you do what you do without risk of anything other than that which you desire.
To be made fun of.
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Even better. You can play cocksie
:-X
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Even better. You can play cocksie
Izzat like "tummy sticks"? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww... ;D ;D
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Chicken Little Virus, aka CLV is the bigger problem. It's not that I don't worry about the CoronaVirus but rather that I don't give a fuck about the spread of Corona to turd-worlders because the USA is not some turd-world kuntry.
What's hurting more people is the spread of CLV.
Personally, I hope the disease destroys and decimates ChiCom and islime. The Chinese Communists wiped out how many female babies? The muslimes are the real plague and if Corona kills 'em off, that's great for the Civilized World.
But any that feeeeeeeeeeeeel that divershitty is the way I hope they get it and promptly assume room temperature, regardless of nationality, skin color, hair color, eye color, religious beliefs or lack thereof.
So here's to CNN and PMSNBC shutting down. Here's to all those poor, huddled asses, yearning to fleece the Civilized World dropping dead. Here's to Merkel going the way of the Dodo. Here's to Trudeau going over the falls never to return. Here's to the Green Meanies turning up red roses, including that insufferable cuntlette, Greta Thunberg and her parental units. And oh yeah...Fuck Arnold Schwarzenegger too. Fucking douche.
Here's to the end of the EU and all it's "leaders". Liberalism deserves extinction. Let the CoronaVirus be the comet that wipes them clean off the face of the Earth.
As always - Well Said Scott. 👍🏻
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This chinese virus seem to prosper quite good in the America. 27th of Feb there were 60 covid-19 cases in US and 0 deaths. Today, 20 days later there is just under 5700 cases, and 97 deaths. Number has rise ~25-40% per day, so what happen next 20 days?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States)
Likely the same pattern as China & by the looks of it Italy it’ll hit its peak in 2/4wks & then start
Decreasing just as quickly.
20,000 Thousand People Die Every year in the U.K. from Flu - No Panic - no lock downs - no warnings
In fact very little is made of it - Other Than The Flu Jab Given For Free.
Has China had 20,000 deaths from this Virus ? Out of a population of 1.4+ Billion ?
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03 17 2020 :
France : 175 deaths
Italy : 2503 deaths
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I better be allowed to use the supinator in mass.
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Likely the same pattern as China & by the looks of it Italy it’ll hit its peak in 2/4wks & then start
Decreasing just as quickly.
20,000 Thousand People Die Every year in the U.K. from Flu - No Panic - no lock downs - no warnings
In fact very little is made of it - Other Than The Flu Jab Given For Free.
Has China had 20,000 deaths from this Virus ? Out of a population of 1.4+ Billion ?
That's because China and Italy locked down their countries, preventing transmission. Think about it for a second..
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The last 4 days new cases totals are as follows: 3,497 3,590 3,233 and today 3,526
That's a classic linear progression. No evidence 200 plus Americans will contract the virus.
That's because they locked down their country preventing exponential transmission. I'm sick of explaining this simple concept to you fools.
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That's because they locked down their country preventing exponential transmission. I'm sick of explaining this simple concept to you fools.
Then stop doing it. Nobody asked you to explain it.
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Go to a minor gym them
He can’t....it’s a parole violation for him to be around minors.
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haha.
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That's because they locked down their country preventing exponential transmission. I'm sick of explaining this simple concept to you fools.
If Italy was able to stop the virus from exponentially spreading then why is everyone panicking???
Also, if the virus didn't spread exponentially why did Italy lock down its citizens in the first place???
Huge piece of logic missing!
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I'm done talking about the virus. This is getting too depressing. Let's hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
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If Italy was able to stop the virus from exponentially spreading then why is everyone panicking???
Also, if the virus didn't spread exponentially why did Italy lock down its citizens in the first place???
Huge piece of logic missing!
And if China locked downed the country in January that means the people who would’ve been spreading the virus left in December. So why was there no big outbreak in the American city with the highest population of Chinese, New York, in January and February when there were no restrictions? From my understanding, symptoms start to appear from 5 to 14 days.
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That's because they locked down their country preventing exponential transmission. I'm sick of explaining this simple concept to you fools.
Pffft! Locked down? FTN. It got out long before they "locked" anything down.
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Coronavirus: France President Macron suspends rent, taxes and utilities
The minute details of the lock-down outlined tight controls over residents' civil liberties unprecedented in peacetime.
The French will be required to download a form online and fill it out each time they venture outside - writing ‘going out to buy a baguette’ or ‘walking the dog’ - or risk a €38 (£34.60) fine if they are caught short
The country's interior minister outlined the finer details after Mr Macron announced the extreme measures in a solemn live TV address on Monday evening.
Mr Macron said earlier people would have to stay at home unless shopping for food or going to a pharmacy, heading for absolutely essential work, or exercising alone.
The lock-down measures come in at midday tomorrow and are set to remain in force for at least two weeks, as France follows the lead of other EU nations and shuts its borders amid the global pandemic.
https://www.graphic.com.gh/international/international-news/coronavirus-france-president-macron-suspends-rent-taxes-and-utilities.html
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As always - Well Said Scott. 👍🏻
;D
Thanks, brother! Here's to Great Britain coming out on top and free of all manner of infestation. 8)
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Pffft! Locked down? FTN. It got out long before they "locked" anything down.
New York City has a larger population of Chinese than the entire country of Italy. Yet there’s been no outbreak. It just doesn’t add up.
The community of Chinese people in Italy has grown rapidly in the past ten years. Official statistics indicate there are at least 320,794 Chinese citizens in Italy, although these figures do not account for illegal immigration, former Chinese citizens who have acquired Italian nationality or Italian-born people of Chinese descent.[1]
New York City has the largest Chinese population of any city outside of Asia[13] and within the U.S. with an estimated population of 573,388 in 2014,[14] and continues to be a primary destination for new Chinese immigrants.[15]
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Huge piece of logic missing!
Yes!
Which is why you don't lie to the public in times like this.
The virus numbers provided to the public should be the 'adjusted' numbers.
May and June will be mass redundancies and umemployment with data.showing nobody got sick..... it's a clusterfuck by leaders. They all.quote 'take.it seriously' then immediately say 300 people out of 300,000,000 people are sick..... FFS....
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I felt Trump was a moron long before his dumb white grievance voters called him 'dear leader' - all you had to do was listen to the moron talk for 2 minutes.
(https://i.imgflip.com/3rc9y9.jpg)
(check out the orange turd face!)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488031-trump-says-he-knew-coronavirus-was-a-pandemic-long-before-it-was
President Trump on Tuesday said that he realized that the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic before the World Health Organization (WHO) labeled it as such last week.
"This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," Trump said at a press conference with his coronavirus task force. "All you had to do was look at other countries."
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And if China locked downed the country in January that means the people who would’ve been spreading the virus left in December. So why was there no big outbreak in the American city with the highest population of Chinese, New York, in January and February when there were no restrictions? From my understanding, symptoms start to appear from 5 to 14 days.
Most have mild cases or no symptoms, others past it off as the flu. Also I doubt many Wuhan Chinese have connections to New York.
I remember a fair few people in early Feb saying the had a cold for a few days, got better and then got hit by another really nasty cold/flu type thing. Everyone was saying it's just something going around. It's only in the last couple of weeks that people are realising that they possibly had coronavirus disease.
I actually met someone who had those exact same corona symptoms (cold, feeling better, flu) back in Feb, but she is always ill so thought nothing of it at the time. Few days later I woke up with a sore throat. It's been years since I had a sore throat, but managed to find some 5 year old lozenges in the medicine cabinet, had a few and that was that.
Find out today her work offices are always full of Chinese engineers who fly back and forth from China. Good chance we've both had it and many others will have similar stories. They need to get the antigen test ready. If I knew I'd already had it I'd be much more inclined to help some of those who might need it right now.
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Did we die yet ???
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I felt Trump was a moron long before his dumb white grievance voters called him 'dear leader' - all you had to do was listen to the moron talk for 2 minutes.
(https://i.imgflip.com/3rc9y9.jpg)
(check out the orange turd face!)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488031-trump-says-he-knew-coronavirus-was-a-pandemic-long-before-it-was
President Trump on Tuesday said that he realized that the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic before the World Health Organization (WHO) labeled it as such last week.
"This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," Trump said at a press conference with his coronavirus task force. "All you had to do was look at other countries."
Listen, all politicians are conmen. People do not like being deceived and that's what happened when they voted in a conman they actually thought might be different. Obama played people hard and many gonna hurt.
Trump is a straight forward conman. Some might say he is a terrible conman and a bit of an idiot, but it's that very fact that means people don't care when he tries to deceive them. Some also enjoy how butt hurt people get over Trump so they like him even more.
Wanna blame someone for Trump happening? Blame Obama and Hillary, otherwise enjoy the fat orange girl as politics won't ever be this entertaining ever again.
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Did we die yet ???
Only a 98% chance we'll live if we get sick =-(
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(https://i.postimg.cc/C1M6b3YG/5555.jpg)
So NY & SF is not yet obliviated >:( >:( >:(
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it will gradually fizzle out, do you know around 6000 people have died of regular flu this year?
Do you know, that you have to add those to these, who has died by covid-19? It isn't either covbid-19 of regular flu, it is covid-19 + regular flu = fking big pile of dead people.
Most dangerous beast at this moment is morons like you, with dismissive attitude about the matter, which is deadly serious to so many people. Just look around, even moron like you have relatives, friends etc. people around him. Who you would left to die?
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Do you know, that you have to add those to these, who has died by covid-19? It isn't either covbid-19 of regular flu, it is covid-19 + regular flu = fking big pile of dead people.
Most dangerous beast at this moment is morons like you, with dismissive attitude about the matter, which is deadly serious to so many people. Just look around, even moron like you have relatives, friends etc. people around him. Who you would left to die?
I dont have emotional attachments to other people, I will be OK..
Oh, and people in their 80s dont "die before their time", they are in their 80s, thats when people die anyway...
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Coronavirus: France President Macron suspends rent, taxes and utilities
How will the landlords buy food?
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I felt Trump was a moron long before his dumb white grievance voters called him 'dear leader' - all you had to do was listen to the moron talk for 2 minutes.
(https://i.imgflip.com/3rc9y9.jpg)
(check out the orange turd face!)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488031-trump-says-he-knew-coronavirus-was-a-pandemic-long-before-it-was
President Trump on Tuesday said that he realized that the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic before the World Health Organization (WHO) labeled it as such last week.
"This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," Trump said at a press conference with his coronavirus task force. "All you had to do was look at other countries."
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renowned research professor in France has reported successful results from a new treatment for Covid-19, with early tests suggesting it can stop the virus from being contagious in just six days.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-researcher-in-Marseille-posts-successful-Covid-19-coronavirus-drug-trial-results (https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-researcher-in-Marseille-posts-successful-Covid-19-coronavirus-drug-trial-results)
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renowned research professor in France has reported successful results from a new treatment for Covid-19, with early tests suggesting it can stop the virus from being contagious in just six days.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-researcher-in-Marseille-posts-successful-Covid-19-coronavirus-drug-trial-results (https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-researcher-in-Marseille-posts-successful-Covid-19-coronavirus-drug-trial-results)
Alex, I'll take "things you won't hear on CNN" for $1000
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This is the most irrational shit I've seen in my entire life. If you want to severely restrict the elderly and immune compromised people I would have no problem. Ban visitation at nursing homes and hospitals. Let them have special hours in the morning for grocery shopping. Have them limit contact with most people. I would understand that. Shutting down the entire country and putting millions out of a job while you crush private business and destroy peoples retirements is beyond ridiculous.
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Why isn't Portugal there? I feel discriminated against. >:(
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This is the most irrational shit I've seen in my entire life. If you want to severely restrict the elderly and immune compromised people I would have no problem. Ban visitation at nursing homes and hospitals. Let them have special hours in the morning for grocery shopping. Have them limit contact with most people. I would understand that. Shutting down the entire country and putting millions out of a job while you crush private business and destroy peoples retirements is beyond ridiculous.
x2
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Because this is 10000% being done on purpose..
Tell me how exactly this makes any sense?
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/philadelphia-police-coronavirus-covid-pandemic-arrests-jail-overcrowding-larry-krasner-20200317.html
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How will the landlords buy food?
They are evil and rich so they don't deserve to eat. Only the noble poor leeches of society should eat.
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This will go down in history as the largest world wide overreaction ever.
Time to seriously put the phone down and get off the internet.
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This will go down in history as the largest world wide overreaction ever.
Time to seriously out the phone down and get off the internet.
Yes.
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I dont have emotional attachments to other people, I will be OK..
Oh, and people in their 80s dont "die before their time", they are in their 80s, thats when people die anyway...
Ok. So who will feed you, if your handler die by this virus? Who change your diapers, who will wash your shits?
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Ok. So who will feed you, if your handler die by this virus? Who change your diapers, who will wash your shits?
If I have to wear diapers I dont want to live anyway..
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03 18 2020 :
France : 264 deaths
Italy : 2978 deaths
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If I have to wear diapers I dont want to live anyway..
there's no point to live like that
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63 pages of the ramblings of some drama queen named "Army of One", lol. I took a break from GetBig but fortunately things are still funny here.
I got sepsis in August from a surgery gone wrong. I'll take the WuFlu over that any day. Because of the antibiotics my red blood cell production took a dive and for a month breathing felt like I was permanently living at 10,000 feet. My surgeon said I was 24 hours from attaining room temperature. So yeah- I get what severe illness is all about.
95% of people who die from any variation of the flu are typically already lung , kidney or high blood pressure marginal. A common cold can do them in. The real crime in this BS pandemic is the massive overreach of governments based on literally a tempest in a tea cup.
That my friends is what we really need to be concerned about.
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63 pages of the ramblings of some drama queen named "Army of One", lol. I took a break from GetBig but fortunately things are still funny here.
I got sepsis in August from a surgery gone wrong. I'll take the WuFlu over that any day. Because of the antibiotics my red blood cell production took a dive and for a month breathing felt like I was permanently living at 10,000 feet. My surgeon said I was 24 hours from attaining room temperature. So yeah- I get what severe illness is all about.
95% of people who die from any variation of the flu are typically already lung , kidney or high blood pressure marginal. A common cold can do them in. The real crime in this BS pandemic is the massive overreach of governments based on literally a tempest in a tea cup.
That my friends is what we really need to be concerned about.
I almost never get sick. I'm the oldest person living in my house and of the age of people most serious affected by the coronavirus. My adult daughter, son-in-law and adult grandson seem like they get sick every other week, yet my son-in-law has taken it upon himself to dictate what the rest of us have to do to stay safe from the coronavirus. Go figure.
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63 pages of the ramblings of some drama queen named "Army of One", lol. I took a break from GetBig but fortunately things are still funny here.
I got sepsis in August from a surgery gone wrong. I'll take the WuFlu over that any day. Because of the antibiotics my red blood cell production took a dive and for a month breathing felt like I was permanently living at 10,000 feet. My surgeon said I was 24 hours from attaining room temperature. So yeah- I get what severe illness is all about.
95% of people who die from any variation of the flu are typically already lung , kidney or high blood pressure marginal. A common cold can do them in. The real crime in this BS pandemic is the massive overreach of governments based on literally a tempest in a tea cup.
That my friends is what we really need to be concerned about.
63 pages where everything I claimed would happen a month ago is happening.Again its about the effect on society and infrastructure.It doesn't matter that most won't die from it, but you can keep focusing on that if that's all your IQ will allow.
Many people seem confused and if they are not old, obese, a smoker etc then it won't effect them.I am none of these things, I'm more worried about the effects on infrastructure and the panic that will set in.
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I almost never get sick. I'm the oldest person living in my house and of the age of people most serious affected by the coronavirus. My adult daughter, son-in-law and adult grandson seem like they get sick every other week, yet my son-in-law has taken it upon himself to dictate what the rest of us have to do to stay safe from the coronavirus. Go figure.
do you have dead people in your house?
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do you have dead people in your house?
What makes you think that? Of course I don't have dead people living in my house. For one thing, if they were dead, they wouldn't be living, would they?
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Journalists trying to give Trump a tough time because he calls the coronavirus the Chinavirus, well it's from China, duh!
Think it would be RACIST!
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What makes you think that? Of course I don't have dead people living in my house. For one thing, if they were dead, they wouldn't be living, would they?
No one implied they lived there Prime. He asked if they were there.
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What makes you think that? Of course I don't have dead people living in my house. For one thing, if they were dead, they wouldn't be living, would they?
;D
That was my point...
you are the oldest living person in your house..
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Note: Pro bodybuilders only live to 50 anyway so they need not fear the Corona.
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do you have dead people in your house?
Oh I get it. Do you have dyslexia? I wrote, "the oldest person living in my house" and oldest living person in my house mean different things. The second phrase implies there are dead people in the house, while the first says there are other people living in my house. I know, it's nit-picking. But to make you happy, I'll be more precise. I am the oldest resident of my house. Better? :)
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2827 new cases and 41 new deaths in the United States
New deaths include:
2 new deaths in Santa Clara County (California): a man in his 50s and a man in his 60s
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Oh I get it. Do you have dyslexia? I wrote, "the oldest person living in my house" and oldest living person in my house mean different things. The second phrase implies there are dead people in the house, while the first says there are other people living in my house. I know, it's nit-picking. But to make you happy, I'll be more precise. I am the oldest resident of my house. Better? :)
No, dyslexia has nothing to do with understanding context and grammar, its a word blindness of sorts..it has nothing to do with general intelligence
An intelligent man like yourself should know that..
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No, dyslexia has nothing to do with understanding context and grammar, its a word blindness of sorts..it has nothing to do with general intelligence
An intelligent man like yourself should know that..
If I were an intelligent man, I might have known that. Since I didn't, I guess I'm not that intelligent after all. I do have mild dyslexia though. Are dyslexics intelligent or stupid? I don't know. Do you know?
My late wife was my editor (never on Getbig). She was great at it. Now that she's gone, I fuck up what I write all the time.
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One of my all-time favorite movies. 8)
"It's the end of the world." :)
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Don't you love what it says in the subject line of this thread, "We are all screwed" as if we didn't already know that. If the coronavirus doesn't screw us, something else eventually will. We are not immortal.
Here's a little ditty to cheer you up.
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Here's another little bit of Corona
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Toilet paper Corona
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2827 new cases and 41 new deaths in the United States
New deaths include:
2 new deaths in Santa Clara County (California): a man in his 50s and a man in his 60s
What's happening in US, why is it increasing so much lately? ??? ???
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What's happening in US, why is it increasing so much lately? ??? ???
Beats me, I mean they've closed the gyms and everything!
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Beats me, I mean they've closed the gyms and everything!
:o :o
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:o :o
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:o :o
how come we dont have enough?
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how come we dont have enough?
I don't know, the hospitals might not have expected to have to deal with a lot more patients than usual in such a short time.
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:o :o
Guess you missed the part where he says small hospital. Wow. Amazing.
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Guess you missed the part where he says small hospital. Wow. Amazing.
First in was in no hospitals. Then in small hospitals.
Coming soon to a big hospital near you.
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Note: Pro bodybuilders only live to 50 anyway so they need not fear the Corona.
;D
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Most healthy people do not die from this, is this correct?
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Most healthy people do not die from this, is this correct?
Correct ;)
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:o :o
I saw a video from an Italian hospital yesterday. The very sick patients on ventilators don't even recovery. They basically just wait to die. Terrible.
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If Italy was able to stop the virus from exponentially spreading then why is everyone panicking???
They stopped the potential exponential spread by panicking.
Also, if the virus didn't spread exponentially why did Italy lock down its citizens in the first place???
They locked down their citizens to stop the virus from spreading exponentially.
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Most healthy people do not die from this, is this correct?
Correct 👍🏻 And sadly many frail unhealthy people will Die - Corona Virus or Not.
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For the first time since the viral outbreak Wuhan has no daily reported case or suspected cases of covid19..
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For the first time since the viral outbreak Wuhan has no daily reported case or suspected cases of covid19..
Well most of it is still locked down, traffic is still only around 10% of normal traffic there this time of year.Its also just logic, if you weld everyone Indoors, everyone with the virus either died, or recovers and wasn't around anyone else to pass it on to.Im also assuming nobody is stupid enough to voluntarily enter Wuhan at the moment who doesn't live there, or have to be there for supply chains etc.The issue will be when Wuhan is fully open again, it will only take 1 or 2 people to enter with the virus to kick it all off again and infect those who managed to avoid It the first time around, while the rest should be ok because they developed immunity.But then the virus likely is a different strain every season like flu, so the ones who developed immunity to the first Wuhan strain, won't have immunity to the 2nd.
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I have faith in Jesus
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For the first time since the viral outbreak Wuhan has no daily reported case or suspected cases of covid19..
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Ford, GM, and other auto makers will enter the medical equipment business -
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-gm-equipment/gm-ford-in-talks-with-trump-administration-on-medical-equipment-production-idUSKBN2153W5 .
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Well most of it is still locked down, traffic is still only around 10% of normal traffic there this time of year.Its also just logic, if you weld everyone Indoors, everyone with the virus either died, or recovers and wasn't around anyone else to pass it on to.Im also assuming nobody is stupid enough to voluntarily enter Wuhan at the moment who doesn't live there, or have to be there for supply chains etc.The issue will be when Wuhan is fully open again, it will only take 1 or 2 people to enter with the virus to kick it all off again and infect those who managed to avoid It the first time around, while the rest should be ok because they developed immunity.But then the virus likely is a different strain every season like flu, so the ones who developed immunity to the first Wuhan strain, won't have immunity to the 2nd.
Natural selection favours milder strains of the disease.
The thing that gets very little attention is the fact that coronaviruses have been infecting humans for donkeys years. We just pass it off as a common cold now.
Covid-19 is just the birth off a new common cold virus. Again it's natural selection taking place as evident in the people we see it taking out. If this virus happened 200 years it would barely be a footnote in history, but mankind has become soft and this is the end result.
We will get a reset after this, albeit a small one, but it's better than nothing.
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Spanish flu - everyone got infected, no matter what age
Swine flu - older people were immune to it, younger people were not
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Natural selection favours milder strains of the disease.
The thing that gets very little attention is the fact that coronaviruses have been infecting humans for donkeys years. We just pass it off as a common cold now.
Covid-19 is just the birth off a new common cold virus. Again it's natural selection taking place as evident in the people we see it taking out. If this virus happened 200 years it would barely be a footnote in history, but mankind has become soft and this is the end result.
We will get a reset after this, albeit a small one, but it's better than nothing.
Do the other strains of the coronavirus (common cold) result in an equal percentage of acute cases and deaths as does COVID-19?
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Do the other strains of the coronavirus (common cold) result in an equal percentage of acute cases and deaths as does COVID-19?
When they first infected humans they were likely far more deadly than covid-19 i.e they caused death amongst many healthy individuals too, unless it started out as a very mild from the beginning.
Covid-19 will take one of two paths. Mutate into a mild strain and become seasonal or infect a large percentage of the population and disappear
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What's happening in US, why is it increasing so much lately? ??? ???
Testing more.
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Dashboard
https://ncov2019.live/
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150 deaths confirmed and presumptive. 330 million people, 10.5k confirmed and presumptive.
Do the math cowards.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-in-us.html
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150 deaths confirmed and presumptive. 330 million people, 10.5k confirmed and presumptive.
Do the math cowards.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-in-us.html
You can't say confirmed and presumptive at the same time, under the same circumstances and with the same numbers. It's either one or the other and not both at once.
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"More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,
according to a study by the country’s national health authority."
"The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities,
finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims
suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.
"More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."
"The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had
died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
Median age of Italians is 45.7; for Americans 38.2.
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National guard deployed in Boston.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/baker-activates-national-guard-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-report/2094158/%3famp
Talks of martial law in California...things are heating up
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You can't say confirmed and presumptive at the same time, under the same circumstances and with the same numbers. It's either one or the other and not both at once.
I didn't.
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National guard deployed in Boston.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/baker-activates-national-guard-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-report/2094158/%3famp
Talks of martial law in California...things are heating up
Fuck Kommiefornia. The governor is a cuntlette.
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Deaths have doubled in a week from 5000 to 10000.
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and Alex Jones is conspiracy nut..lol
The U.S. wants smartphone location data to fight coronavirus.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/u-s-wants-smartphone-location-data-fight-coronavirus-privacy-advocates-n1162821
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average health of bodybuilders and weighttrainers
:D
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US lost a lot of lives today
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US lost a lot of lives today
Likely more died today worldwide from Covid 19 than flu.Over 1000 deaths.And it looks like just the start.I just hope the "its just the flu bro" crowd here didn't drastically put more people in danger when me and Gib were warning people of what was to come.I said 4 weeks ago to stock up, now there are people in the UK who cant get a food delivery because everything is booked for 4 weeks and the supermarkets are empty of everything essential.
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I didn't.
I must be dense because it sure looks like that's what you wrote. Maybe it's not what you meant. What did you mean?
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Likely more died today worldwide from Covid 19 than flu.Over 1000 deaths.And it looks like just the start.I just hope the "its just the flu bro" crowd here didn't drastically put more people in danger when me and Gib were warning people of what was to come.I said 4 weeks ago to stock up, now there are people in the UK who cant get a food delivery because everything is booked for 4 weeks and the supermarkets are empty of everything essential.
yawn.......
If you are under 64 years old.... AND you somehow manage to get COVID you have < 1% chance of dying from it
Over 64 years old AND you manage to get it... its 1-2%
-- AND those percentages include the already very sick... not the average healthy adult.'
references cited...enjoy
farkin big joke to crash the world economy
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146 new cases and 3 new deaths in Canada
5322 new cases and 427 new deaths in Italy. Italy's death toll surpasses China's
3308 new cases and 193 new deaths in Spain
5006 new cases and 68 new deaths in the United States
2993 new cases and 16 new deaths in Germany
21 new cases and 1 new death in Croatia
1861 new cases and 108 new deaths in France
643 new cases and 40 new deaths in the United Kingdom
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146 new cases and 3 new deaths in Canada
5322 new cases and 427 new deaths in Italy. Italy's death toll surpasses China's
3308 new cases and 193 new deaths in Spain
5006 new cases and 68 new deaths in the United States
2993 new cases and 16 new deaths in Germany
21 new cases and 1 new death in Croatia
1861 new cases and 108 new deaths in France
643 new cases and 40 new deaths in the United Kingdom
How many in China today (1.4 billion people) ??
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How many in China today (1.4 billion people) ??
What's your point
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Deaths have doubled in a week from 5000 to 10000.
Where are the bodies?
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yawn.......
If you are under 64 years old.... AND you somehow manage to get COVID you have < 1% chance of dying from it
Over 64 years old AND you manage to get it... its 1-2%
-- AND those percentages include the already very sick... not the average healthy adult.'
references cited...enjoy
farkin big joke to crash the world economy
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At this point I'm going to call people like you what you are, a fucking idiot who should never have children or be in any position of power.Your lack of understanding of numbers or how the world is interconnected together, and how parts fall like dominos when one element shows weakness, is truly not there.You are about to get a hard lesson on what "just 1-2%" does to the world.
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It's almost like you want to make a list of all idiots on here only to remember not who to waste time on, but that will be one big list
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At this point I'm going to call people like you what you are, a fucking idiot who should never have children or be in any position of power.Your lack of understanding of numbers or how the world is interconnected together, and how parts fall like dominos when one element shows weakness, is truly not there.You are about to get a hard lesson on what "just 1-2%" does to the world.
Relax Ao1 , it's not that important .
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8 days to go from 100 to 1, 000 cases
8 days to go from 1,000 to 10,000 cases
How many days until 100,000 cases?
How many days until Trump announces nationwide lock down?
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National guard deployed in Boston.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/baker-activates-national-guard-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-report/2094158/%3famp
Talks of martial law in California...things are heating up
Good grief. Already getting tired of this garbage. You got kids partying on the beaches of Florida and talk of martial law in California. Wtf. Lol
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Likely more died today worldwide from Covid 19 than flu.Over 1000 deaths.And it looks like just the start.I just hope the "its just the flu bro" crowd here didn't drastically put more people in danger when me and Gib were warning people of what was to come.I said 4 weeks ago to stock up, now there are people in the UK who cant get a food delivery because everything is booked for 4 weeks and the supermarkets are empty of everything essential.
Yawn ::)
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I must be dense because it sure looks like that's what you wrote. Maybe it's not what you meant. What did you mean?
If you clicked on the link, you would see that I copied what the CDC wrote. Many of these deaths being attributed to the end of the world coronavirus, could very well be the regular old influenza that plagues the world every year with over 200,000 deaths and upwards of 600,000 on a bad year, yet we've never had to shut down a city, county, state, country......until now. Wonder why?
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03 19 2020 :
France : 372 deaths
Italy : 3405 deaths
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(https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/oxEv8rKc5HZ_WrrLEFJvSsCqQ3c=/735x0/going-out-of-business-56a091215f9b58eba4b1a0e1.jpg)
This was most likely a business that was already teetering on the financial edge if the photo is supposed to mean they are going out of business because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Chances are they were about to go out of business before the shit hit the fan.
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03 19 2020 :
France : 372 deaths
Italy : 3405 deaths
These numbers are absolutely going to get worse before they get better regardless of what governments and the people do now.
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most will get the disease anyway , the strong and healthy will live and the sick and old will die , all these measures will only create more suffering and destroy more lives
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These numbers are absolutely going to get worse before they get better regardless of what governments and the people do now.
so destroying the world's economy at the same time is pointless
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most will get the disease anyway , the strong and healthy will live and the sick and old will die , all these measures will only create more suffering and destroy more lives
You may be right. But, this is a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow.
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most will get the disease anyway , the strong and healthy will live and the sick and old will die , all these measures will only create more suffering and destroy more lives
Just like the flu.
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most will get the disease anyway , the strong and healthy will live and the sick and old will die , all these measures will only create more suffering and destroy more lives
IT'S NOT NATURALLY OCCURRING. WHAT PART OF THAT YOU DON'T GET? :)
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so destroying the world's economy at the same time is pointless
I don't think that's what I said.
Every country in the world is affected as is every person on earth. If this virus destroys the economy, and it might, everyone participated. There is likely no way anything could be done to change that, unless you possibly have a solution you'd like to share.
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I don't think that's what I said.
Every country in the world is affected as is every person on earth. If this virus destroys the economy, and it might, everyone participated. There is likely no way anything could be done to change that, unless you possibly have a solution you'd like to share.
not criticising you or what you said , but the government reactions
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577 new cases and 10 new deaths in the United States
462 new cases and 16 new deaths in Belgium
60 new cases and 7 new deaths in Indonesia
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IT'S NOT NATURALLY OCCURRING. WHAT PART OF THAT YOU DON'T GET? :)
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577 new cases and 10 new deaths in the United States
462 new cases and 16 new deaths in Belgium
60 new cases and 7 new deaths in Indonesia
such huge numbers of deaths
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577 new cases and 10 new deaths in the United States
462 new cases and 16 new deaths in Belgium
60 new cases and 7 new deaths in Indonesia
:) Those are great numbers. Extremely low. Totally manageable.
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:) Those are great numbers. Extremely low. Totally manageable.
What about these scaled up?
CLOSED CASES
100,460 Cases which had an outcome:
89,920 (90%) Recovered / Discharged
10,540 (10%) Deaths
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What about these scaled up?
CLOSED CASES
100,460 Cases which had an outcome:
89,920 (90%) Recovered / Discharged
10,540 (10%) Deaths
More people have died in the US alone from the flu. 10k worldwide is nothing. Let me know when we're hitting 4-500k ::)
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More people have died in the US alone from the flu. 10k worldwide is nothing. Let me know when we're hitting 4-500k ::)
It was over 1000 dead alone yesterday, about the same worldwide as flu, and this is just the beginning.
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It was over 1000 dead alone yesterday, about the same worldwide as flu, and this is just the beginning.
Meanwhile china is closing hospitals and reported no new cases yesterday. ::)
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I'm starting to think this Coronavirus hysteria is a way to bring in socialism to the U.S. After every adult starts getting checks for not working it's going to be easy to implement a Universal Basic Income later.
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soooooooooo.....
Does everyone just expect the virus to magically disappear after everything reopens one day?
Doesn't anyone realize that if the virus is THAT deadly, it will always continue to spread once everything is "back to normal" no matter how long we are all "social distancing"?
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soooooooooo.....
Does everyone just expect the virus to magically disappear after everything reopens one day?
Doesn't anyone realize that if the virus is THAT deadly, it will always continue to spread once everything is "back to normal" no matter how long we are all "social distancing"?
In two weeks they will just extend it another two weeks again and again. Bankruptcies are going to soar and businesses are going to be told they can't turn off services for those who can't pay. I heard in California they are banning evictions for people who can't pay the landlord for the next 90 days. They will drag this out as long as they can and then next winter we start all over again with another outbreak just like the flu.
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Hong Kong Fluey
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8FQE-Ynmid4/hqdefault.jpg)
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per Bloomberg News:
Italy
99% of deaths are elderly with at least one comorbidity.
50% of those have 3 or more.
Median age of Italy is 50 yrs old
;)
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3 20 2020 :
France : 450 deaths
Italy : 4032 deaths
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per Bloomberg News:
Italy
99% of deaths are elderly with at least one comorbidity.
50% of those have 3 or more.
Median age of Italy is 50 yrs old
;)
while the entire global economy is getting wiped out and billions lives affected , businesses shutting down and livelihoods lost to safe these people
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Have this sneaking suspcion that they're not bring in mlitary lockdowns and crashing the global economic system , ensuring the ruin of countless working people and their families , just because a few thousand old fucks in their 80's or 90's are kicking the bucket. ;D
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while the entire global economy is getting wiped out and billions lives affected , businesses shutting down and livelihoods lost to safe these people
COVID-19 has been here since Nov-December. The curve is what it is, increased testing is just showing us the scope of it all now.
Not 60 and older with comorbidities are at the highest risk.....stay home. Isolate them.
Everyone else....take precautions.
If we never heard of COVID-19 and the Chinese were successful in covering it all up.....this would be counted as a really bad flu season. The world is 2 months behind because of the Chinese, it is what it is now.
Also, out of the new cases....how many of those infected required hospitalization?
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:P
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I'll place this firmly in conspiracy theory, but could this be why the western governments are so worried?
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per Bloomberg News:
Italy
99% of deaths are elderly with at least one comorbidity.
50% of those have 3 or more.
Median age of Italy is 50 yrs old
;)
Median age is not that high.
"More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,
according to a study by the country’s national health authority."
"The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities,
finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims
suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.
"More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."
"The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had
died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
Median age of Italians is 45.7; for Americans 38.2.
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The official Coronavirus statistics ,from South Korea and Italy, put out by their public health institutes ,as of 20th March .
Overwhelmingly ,it is a disease that seriously effects those who are 60 and older and by and large spares the young.
https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366611&tag=&nPage=1 (https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366611&tag=&nPage=1)
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Infografica_20marzo%20ENG.pdf (https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Infografica_20marzo%20ENG.pdf)
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the orange turd baby got upset today!!
"what do you say to scared American's?"
These reporters' questions are too tough for the turd to process! He got stumped!
Coronavirus doesn't stand a chance with such epic leadership!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-rips-reporter-who-asked-him-to-calm-scared-americans-as-terrible/ar-BB11tcio
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Most of Germany is now in lockdown. Not sure about other states but as of tomorrow in my region (South West) you're only allowed out of your home in groups of 3 or less (unless you're a large family) for medical reasons, to buy groceries or to do some sport. If you're not doing one of these things you can be imprisoned and/or fined 25 000 Euros.
Good that they're trying to keep people away from each other but it all feels a bit weird.
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Corona is just cleaning out the old who only consume resources and provide nothing in return.
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I'll place this firmly in conspiracy theory, but could this be why the western governments are so worried?
their intelligence organizations are noticing millions of chinese are disappearing . . .? wouldn't trust a word from the chinese government
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Report from M.Down in Holland:
"Total lockdown now in Belgium.
When we go to Belgium without a reason the police will give us a ticket 500 euro.
Lockdown country's are Spain France Belgium Germany Polen Denmark Italy.
Madness my friend".
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Corona is just cleaning out the old who only consume resources and provide nothing in return.
MORON !. Who build everything before you.
1MR or Ron , ban him !.
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Report from M.Down in Holland:
"Total lockdown now in Belgium.
When we go to Belgium without a reason the police will give us a ticket 500 euro.
Lockdown country's are Spain France Belgium Germany Polen Denmark Italy.
Madness my friend".
OMG, how would EU survive without open borders ;D ;D ;D
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I'm starting to think this Coronavirus hysteria is a way to bring in socialism to the U.S. After every adult starts getting checks for not working it's going to be easy to implement a Universal Basic Income later.
There is no doubt whether this was planned or not, the result is going to be the end of capitalism as we now it, at least for a good while as the taxes imposed on us from the crisis will mean we will all be working for nothing. I have said from every crisis small business dies and corporates thrives, the end result being a type of big business corporate government socialism, the sheep just too busy buying toilet paper to know, and lets be honest to them it makes no difference, its only those who aspire for more in life it will effect.
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Meanwhile china is closing hospitals and reported no new cases yesterday. ::)
They started locking down cities there since January.
They quickly built makeshift hospitals in January to cope with the surge of sick people.
(https://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2020/2020-01-28/174f5cc9-7667-4c2b-964e-2b58f5327da4.jpeg)
Will other countries be able to do this if the existing hospitals are overloaded?
Why is there still very little traffic in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people? Are they still locked down there after all this time? Did they all die in their welded shut homes, or flee, whats going on there I wonder? Why aren't things back to normal there yet?
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They say 100% been cured with this combo
New treatment could cure coronavirus in 6 days:
https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6142850730001/
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Swedish Corona-update!
✅ 9 patients between 20 and 49 years.
✅ 20 patients between 50 and 65 years.
✅ 20 patients between 66 and 79 years.
✅ ONLY 6 people 80 years or older!
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And the death rate in the US continues to drop to almost below 1% now, as expected by anyone not ruled by hysteria. Economic shutdown have been a bad/unnecessary solution.
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They say 100% been cured with this combo
New treatment could cure coronavirus in 6 days:
https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6142850730001/
Very encouraging news if Correct.
And should be Distributed to all
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Guys, the flu kills mor........
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As I pointed out some weeks ago, this is becoming a major problem in North America. This coming Monday you will have a better understanding what a major headache this virus is. In another two weeks you can start expecting more extreme measures when it comes to population movement. Only an idiot like Trump and his retarded posse cannot predict what will happen in a few weeks.
When I started criticizing orange Mussolini bitch, since he came to power, I knew something not too many of you in the USA have ever encountered before. Dictators that have no inkling of morality look like cretin Trump. They are everywhere. There is one leading my country of Serbia, right now. Trump has something that parts an ocean in the good old USA - $$$. The reason why he has it not because he is a good businessman, as a matter of fact, he's terrible at it, but because his daddy left loads of money to him.
In America there is a strange, very superficial understanding of people. As long as you have money, you're the best. It does not matter, if you swindled others out their hard earned currency, it does not matter if you are a pedophile, a rapist or like to torture others that are weaker than you. You are god.
Well, The Time of the Corona will show Craponic Shite and the crew, which belong to the above mentioned perverted low-life opportunist cowards, who the real ruler on this planet is. Soon, all these racist red-neck fuckers will get what they deserve. They don't see what's coming because they are so full of themselves. Just like those fucking, dirty, child-porn loving, so called Republican congressmen and senators who support the USA destroying Republican agenda.
Nobody can predict when Trump The Scum will cease to exist but we all know that he will cry while shitting his pants while dying because he lived a dishonest, hate-filled life and the end is near.
I learned in the first 16 years of my life that all the people that preach hate, discourse between us all, destruction and encouraging fear will be doomed to repeat this hate filled life until their karma is fulfilled, meaning, until they suffer so much, to learn the way of acceptance and empathy. Then, they can move on to the next level.
You can say that I am rambling and that I am crazy, but in the next several weeks you will see what happens to the USA. You will understand what I and the good Americans on this board meant when they had said: Don't elect an idiot to lead the country.
It's too late now. The orange coward has already severely blunted the US response to the epidemic by his irresponsible actions. The damage is going to be awesome, but we could all (normal people) see the beginnings of that when he colluded with the criminal Russian government to win the elections.
Now let's hear those extremely intelligent responses from the backward Craponic Shite crew.
Oh, and being eloquent in English does not mean you are smart, The Scott. I learned English when I was 19 years old and I can still write better than you in Serbian and English.
Long Live Free North America
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They started locking down cities there since January.
They quickly built makeshift hospitals in January to cope with the surge of sick people.
(https://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2020/2020-01-28/174f5cc9-7667-4c2b-964e-2b58f5327da4.jpeg)
Will other countries be able to do this if the existing hospitals are overloaded?
Why is there still very little traffic in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people? Are they still locked down there after all this time? Did they all die in their welded shut homes, or flee, whats going on there I wonder? Why aren't things back to normal there yet?
I think it makes sense to assume low traffic means the are not getting around as much.
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...Oh, and being eloquent in English does not mean you are smart, The Scott. I learned English when I was 19 years old and I can still write better than you in Serbian and English.
I have never said I am "smart". Nope. Far from it. My IQ is dismal at approximately 80. Oh...And you're still a typist.
So go curl into the fecal position that so suits those of your kind and sulk some more.
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That's a lot of text but I take it you would rather have Hillary lead the country with the current situation?
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Look for Brazil to be the worst yet the way it's growing.
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No wonder they call it the beer virus
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soooooooooo.....
Does everyone just expect the virus to magically disappear after everything reopens one day?
Doesn't anyone realize that if the virus is THAT deadly, it will always continue to spread once everything is "back to normal" no matter how long we are all "social distancing"?
The flu is endemic because it changes it surface antigens, this means that when we get it we can catch it again the next season because the immune system "indicators" have changed.... This is why the vaccine changes every season as it must be developed to target the newest antigens, it's what makes influenza such an impressive pathogen.
As this virus moves through the population community immunity will develop and the virus will eventually be eliminated or numbers will become very low.
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;D ;D ;D
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Guys, the flu kills mor........
We know.
Let’s see how many a day covid19 is killing in 2 years. It’s amazing the flu is still killing over a 1000 day after all this time.
So if Chinese mobile has lost 8 million subscribers why haven’t we heard more about this? China may be able to suppress their nation somewhat, but there are many Chinese born who live in the States, or all over the world, surely we would hear something was a foot?
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We know.
Strange, you didn't know a month ago.
Sure. Where are the sick Europeans then? Surely at the rate it’s spreading there are at least a few cases of this disease hitting the EU!
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Strange, you didn't know a month ago.
Bro you’re the expert. Are 10’s of 1000’s dying in the EU?
I don’t have a problem saying you were right that this virus has ruined everything, CONGRATULATIONS!
But based on the information provided this is killing those who were sentenced to death already.
California is on a “lockdown” but you can still fly in and out of the state. There are to many mixed messages being sent.
And what’s happening with Japan?
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Here’s What It’s Like to Have and Recover From Coronavirus
Park Hyun, a recovered coronavirus patient, said he was "stupidly overconfident" for thinking that he wouldn’t catch the coronavirus.
https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/y3mewb/coronavirus-patient-recovered-experience?utm_content=1584063028&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR2KyMSzhtw1FmCAhkKt4keKEGTqAOsl1mAwzKMRFashP3e9WMN5ZcfuTkg
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NYC today
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Chicago posted today:
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I think it makes sense to assume low traffic means the are not getting around as much.
Wuhan still in lockdown after 2 months. That's how China controlled this virus. They went into lockdown when they had only 1000 cases. We can look to Wuhan to see how long lockdowns will last in areas where the virus is multiplying in high numbers.
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NYC today
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Chicago posted today:
Meter maids are gonna be handing out parking tickets like candy on Halloween. ;D
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Army of one was correct about infrastructure and supply chains going down, but this is more from people panicking rather than illness.
Also it almost looks like they are deliberately trying to test out the heard immunity theory in London. They have done nothing to stop crowds in supermarkets and on transport. If anything the have encouraged/enabled it.
If the aim was for minimal virus deaths they needed to implement a lock down at latest last week, but there is still no sign of one yet. Instead of a 2-3 week lock down they seem to want to implement a 3 month slowdown. This is gonna make the scenes in Italy look like holiday camp.
The ftse 100 will end up resembling the nikkei after the 1991 crash.
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Army of one was correct about infrastructure and supply chains going down, but this is more from people panicking rather than illness.
Also it almost looks like they are deliberately trying to test out the heard immunity theory in London. They have done nothing to stop crowds in supermarkets and on transport. If anything the have encouraged/enabled it.
If the aim was for minimal virus deaths they needed to implement a lock down at latest last week, but there is still no sign of one yet. Instead of a 2-3 week lock down they seem to want to implement a 3 month slowdown. This is gonna make the scenes in Italy look like holiday camp.
The ftse 100 will end up resembling the nikkei after the 1991 crash.
IMO stock markets will go down 80 or 90 % and then they might close the markets.
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Chicago posted today:
I imagine it will be tough guys like XFACTOR and ESFitness who will be driving those military vehicles! :D
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Also it almost looks like they are deliberately trying to test out the heard immunity theory in London. They have done nothing to stop crowds in supermarkets and on transport. If anything the have encouraged/enabled it.
If the aim was for minimal virus deaths they needed to implement a lock down at latest last week, but there is still no sign of one yet. Instead of a 2-3 week lock down they seem to want to implement a 3 month slowdown. This is gonna make the scenes in Italy look like holiday camp.
The Dutch seem to have been doing something similar and their numebr of infected cases and deaths is comparable to the British.
3632 cases and 136 deaths ,as of today, in the Netherlands
4072 cases and 177 deaths ,as of today , in the UK.
“The reality is that in the near future a large part of the Dutch population will be infected with the virus,” Mr Rutte said. “We can slow down the spread of the virus while building controlled group immunity.”
“It can take months or even longer to build group immunity, and during that time we need to shield people at greater risk as much as possible.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-dutch-adopt-controversial-herd-immunity-strategy-1.4204578 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-dutch-adopt-controversial-herd-immunity-strategy-1.4204578)
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We know.
Let’s see how many a day covid19 is killing in 2 years. It’s amazing the flu is still killing over a 1000 day after all this time.
So if Chinese mobile has lost 8 million subscribers why haven’t we heard more about this? China may be able to suppress their nation somewhat, but there are many Chinese born who live in the States, or all over the world, surely we would hear something was a foot?
Exactly- There are many routes to get news out of China - Via friends - Email - Phone calls - etc
I have a good friend who’s in big business & speaking to him yesterday he says all pretty much ok.
He did also tell me a month ago that it was difficult times - So let’s look to the upswing & improvement.
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Anyone got the link to that video of hillbillie toiletpaper and the doughnut?
I thought that was funny
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I have never said I am "smart". Nope. Far from it. My IQ is dismal at approximately 80. Oh...And you're still a typist.
So go curl into the fecal position that so suits those of your kind and sulk some more.
still better than you...
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As I pointed out some weeks ago, this is becoming a major problem in North America. This coming Monday you will have a better understanding what a major headache this virus is. In another two weeks you can start expecting more extreme measures when it comes to population movement. Only an idiot like Trump and his retarded posse cannot predict what will happen in a few weeks.
When I started criticizing orange Mussolini bitch, since he came to power, I knew something not too many of you in the USA have ever encountered before. Dictators that have no inkling of morality look like cretin Trump. They are everywhere. There is one leading my country of Serbia, right now. Trump has something that parts an ocean in the good old USA - $$$. The reason why he has it not because he is a good businessman, as a matter of fact, he's terrible at it, but because his daddy left loads of money to him.
In America there is a strange, very superficial understanding of people. As long as you have money, you're the best. It does not matter, if you swindled others out their hard earned currency, it does not matter if you are a pedophile, a rapist or like to torture others that are weaker than you. You are god.
Well, The Time of the Corona will show Craponic Shite and the crew, which belong to the above mentioned perverted low-life opportunist cowards, who the real ruler on this planet is. Soon, all these racist red-neck fuckers will get what they deserve. They don't see what's coming because they are so full of themselves. Just like those fucking, dirty, child-porn loving, so called Republican congressmen and senators who support the USA destroying Republican agenda.
Nobody can predict when Trump The Scum will cease to exist but we all know that he will cry while shitting his pants while dying because he lived a dishonest, hate-filled life and the end is near.
I learned in the first 16 years of my life that all the people that preach hate, discourse between us all, destruction and encouraging fear will be doomed to repeat this hate filled life until their karma is fulfilled, meaning, until they suffer so much, to learn the way of acceptance and empathy. Then, they can move on to the next level.
You can say that I am rambling and that I am crazy, but in the next several weeks you will see what happens to the USA. You will understand what I and the good Americans on this board meant when they had said: Don't elect an idiot to lead the country.
It's too late now. The orange coward has already severely blunted the US response to the epidemic by his irresponsible actions. The damage is going to be awesome, but we could all (normal people) see the beginnings of that when he colluded with the criminal Russian government to win the elections.
Now let's hear those extremely intelligent responses from the backward Craponic Shite crew.
Oh, and being eloquent in English does not mean you are smart, The Scott. I learned English when I was 19 years old and I can still write better than you in Serbian and English.
Long Live Free North America
ok tito
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still better than you...
Typist.
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I imagine it will be tough guys like XFACTOR and ESFitness who will be driving those military vehicles! :D
Those guys are the elite of the effete and only drive MRAPs. ;D
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So if Chinese mobile has lost 8 million subscribers why haven’t we heard more about this? China may be able to suppress their nation somewhat, but there are many Chinese born who live in the States, or all over the world, surely we would hear something was a foot?
People stopped paying bills and the service has been cut.
People on prepaid no longer buying.
People on existing contracts not able to renew contracts.
People with a work phone and a personal phone cancelling one they don't need.
Parents cancelling phones for kids because they are at home.
IMO it can be very easily explained as above.
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The coronavirus is a hoax
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IMO stock markets will go down 80 or 90 % and then they might close the markets.
It can't get that low because liquidity freezes everything before that point.
GFC got to 50% and platforms, banks, funds started to go into lockdown.
It's a safe bet Dow will tap 14k-16k and we will already read about liquidity freezes. It would be madness to allow it to keep going sub 10k.
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This piece is very long, but check out one of the graphics:
(https://miro.medium.com/max/1554/1*d0eDvWFK8alN8sV3D1I--w.png)
Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19
After watching the outbreak of COVID-19 for the past two months, I’ve followed the pace of the infection,
its severity, and how our world is tackling the virus. While we should be concerned and diligent, the situation
has dramatically elevated to a mob-like fear spreading faster than COVID-19 itself. When 13% of Americans
believe they are currently infected with COVID-19 (mathematically impossible), full-on panic is blocking our
ability to think clearly and determine how to deploy our resources to stop this virus. Over three-fourths of
Americans are scared of what we are doing to our society through law and hysteria, not of infection or spreading
COVID-19 to those most vulnerable.
https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894
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Cowards.
Disgusting cowards.
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March 21 - just in one day people.
4610 new cases and 45 new deaths in the United States
2516 new cases and 16 new deaths in Germany
3925 new cases and 285 new deaths in Spain
1035 new cases and 56 new deaths in the United Kingdom
1847 new cases and 112 new deaths in France. 50% of the 1,525 patients currently in intensive care are under 60 years old
6557 new cases and 793 new deaths in Italy
637 new cases and 30 new deaths in the Netherlands
966 new cases and 123 new deaths in Iran
89 new cases in Thailand: the largest single-day rise in cases since the outbreak began in January. Most are related to a boxing match and various entertainment venues in Bangkok, while 6 are a group of Thais who traveled to Malaysia for a Mosque event
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Does anyone know anybody that knows any person that knows anyone that knows ANYONE any where who has died from this diabolical worldwide virus ?
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March 21 - just in one day people.
4610 new cases and 45 new deaths in the United States
Its 6,513 new cases and 60 deaths now in one day. USA moves into 3rd place behind Italy and China.
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Does anyone know anybody that knows any person that knows anyone that knows ANYONE any where who has died from this diabolical worldwide virus ?
Did anyone know anyone who died at Auschwitz 2 months in?ww2 2 months in?ww1?black plague?Spanish flu?I'm sure many knew at the end.
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Its 6,513 new cases and 60 deaths now in one day. USA moves into 3rd place behind Italy and China.
For the US this is people who are diagnosed that they required testing, correct?
There are many infected who are not tested and staying “self quarantined” as directed.
Did anyone know anyone who died at Auschwitz 2 months in?ww2 2 months in?ww1?black plague?Spanish flu?I'm sure many knew at the end.
Yes I do.
And Italian Lifter said he knows someone. It’s that easy to answer.
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For the US this is people who are diagnosed that they required testing, correct?
There are many infected who are not tested and staying “self quarantined” as directed.
Yes I do.
And Italian Lifter said he knows someone. It’s that easy to answer.
I'm sure people know people, but most don't right now.I fully expect that to be completely different within 8 weeks.Problem is you don't need alot of people to know someone with Covid19 to overwhelm hospitals.
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Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?
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Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?
Lol dude come on. What we will say? It won’t matter. This virus has already shut down the world. Everyone is now suffering, kudos to you, YOU WERE RIGHT. So what? Are you completely isolated where you can avoid the public for the next several months? Even if you are you’ll eventually need to replenish supplies then what will you do?
What will you do remind us you knew this going to happen? What if you get the virus? What will you say? Will you tell us?
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fear of looting is being mentioned more frequently:
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Nope, We are all NOT SCREWED, some of us a INTENTIONALLY stranded on a tropical island ;D
8)
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Nope, We are all NOT SCREWED, some of us a INTENTIONALLY stranded on a tropical island ;D
8)
This you mean?
Thailand 599 +188 new cases in one day.
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Its 6,513 new cases and 60 deaths now in one day. USA moves into 3rd place behind Italy and China.
This was to be expected and presumably is simply the truer number of infected coming to the surface.
It will be interesting to see what happens in a couple weeks once the incubation period passes and we see the effect of this lockdown we are living through.
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This was to be expected and presumably is simply the truer number of infected coming to the surface.
It will be interesting to see what happens in a couple weeks once the incubation period passes and we see the effect of this lockdown we are living through.
China started their strict lockdown on Jan 23. Looks like it took nearly a month for active cases to peak on Feb 17 after lockdown start. Daily new cases peaked Feb 4 about 2 weeks after lockdown.
This is how one Chinese city stopped the infected from spreading:
They only had about 90 cases but they still did all this, I don't know if the US could do it on this level.
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Benefits of Corona
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What's the hospitalization rate?
Age of those requiring hospitalization?
Co-morbidities?
That's what matters.
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What's the hospitalization rate?
Age of those requiring hospitalization?
Co-morbidities?
That's what matters.
Why?Full hospitals are full hospitals, the knock on effect of that is what matters.Also the amount of people with co-morbidities above 40 in the USA is huge.
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Because it provides context and detail.
This virus isn't the bubonic plague coming to kill 50 million people. It's the fear and CYA that's pushing the panic and reactions of shutting everything down. Eventually, we'll have to leave our homes and venture back out into the world. Some will get sick, some won't some will be hospitalized many won't. Vast majority of those infected will go home, isolate and recover.
It has to run its course. Other wise it's just a cycle of "shelter in place" followed by "all clear" followed by "shelter in place...." Until people simply stop caring and break it themselves.
People will live, people will get sick and some may even die. Another day in the life of living in this planet.
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This virus isn't the bubonic plague coming to kill 50 million people.
Says who?Many estimates put it way above that if we can't contain it/find a vaccine.Look at the societal effects already, the panic, people not being able to get hold of types of food etc.When the icus and hospitals fill up with older people/people with co-morbidities, then anyone else who needs treatment for anything suffers, or just plain can't get treatment at all.Everyone focusing on the fact the young won't get hit hard so the world will be fine, really live in some kind of bubble where cause and effect doesn't exist.
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Says who?Many estimates put it way above that if we can't contain it/find a vaccine.Look at the societal effects already, the panic, people not being able to get hold of types of food etc.When the icus and hospitals fill up with older people/people with co-morbidities, then anyone else who needs treatment for anything suffers, or just plain can't get treatment at all.Everyone focusing on the fact the young won't get hit hard so the world will be fine, really live in some kind of bubble where cause and effect doesn't exist.
I get it, I'm not being dismissive and I'm prepared for worst case.
But, you said it, "The Panic." That's the killer.
I've asked the question before....what if the Chinese were successful in hiding and covering this up and right here, right now in the USA we are just going on with life as we know it. No COVID-19 panic, no TP shortages etc. Would there be any headlines?
Again, hypothetical, but worth exploring.
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Yes , it is ovewhelmingly the old and the already very sick and weak, who are dying from COVID-19.
For comparison, according to the CDC, during the 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu most of those who died were children and young adults.
"Americas especially hard hit by 2009 swine flu, study finds
A new look at the 2009 pandemic of H1N1 swine flu finds an unusual pattern — more people died in the Americas than in the rest of the world. What’s not clear is why.
The study, originally started to get a final estimate of global deaths from the H1N1 virus, shows about 200,000 people died. And it confirms most of them were young adults and children — just the opposite pattern from seasonal flu, which tends to kill people 65 and older.
..……….
It sounds like a mild year, but Simonsen says it wasn’t. “These are not deaths in age groups where you are expecting them,” she said. “These are deaths of young adults and children. It is different from seasonal influenza.” H1N1 killed 282 U.S. children in 2009-2010, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.
CDC says H1N1 infected 61 million Americans during the pandemic and killed around 12,000. H1N1 is now part of the annual seasonal flu mix."
https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478 (https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/americas-especially-hard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478)
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I get it, I'm not being dismissive and I'm prepared for worst case.
But, you said it, "The Panic." That's the killer.
I've asked the question before....what if the Chinese were successful in hiding and covering this up and right here, right now in the USA we are just going on with life as we know it. No COVID-19 panic, no TP shortages etc. Would there be any headlines?
Again, hypothetical, but worth exploring.
We are human, we panic.One person buys a bit extra to store, the next person sees them buying extra so they do it too, the church goer after who believes in sharing comes along and sees only 2 items left, so buys 1 extra for his neighbor and clears the shelf, the next person sees the empty shelf, panics and buys double what they normally buy from the next shelf etc etc.Everything has a knock on effect,which leads to more panic.Until we find a way to raise our IQs and blunt our emotions, this will always happen.The problem coming in the next month, which wont matter if we panic or not, is the hospitals and icus will all be full.Then it won't matter if you are old or young, your chances of survival from anything drastically decrease.Even if the Chinese hid it at that point, can you imagine getting the news suddenly that every hospital was turning away patients and they were dying in the street/at home?Would be way worse.
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fredrollon: 2009-virus and 2020-virus are not the same.
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French pro Morgan Aste; note how he is properly dressed for a hospital visit:
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fredrollon: 2009-virus and 2020-virus are not the same.
Yes, you are correct, The 2009 virus killed children and young adults. This is taking out the old and the weak.
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Who is dumber - the orange turd or the GOP white grievance voters that believe him?
(https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/147/36/Quotation-Donald-Trump-Our-country-is-being-run-by-incompetent-people-147-36-16.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/used-to-meeting-challenges-with-bluster-and-force-trump-confronts-a-crisis-unlike-any-before/ar-BB11vM6D
"Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know."
Why is anyone surprised at how this sh*tshow is playing out?
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(https://i.imgur.com/cPLZ3FS.png)
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Where are the bodies?
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Where are the bodies?
Soylent Green?
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Who is dumber - the orange turd or the GOP white grievance voters that believe him?
(https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/147/36/Quotation-Donald-Trump-Our-country-is-being-run-by-incompetent-people-147-36-16.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/used-to-meeting-challenges-with-bluster-and-force-trump-confronts-a-crisis-unlike-any-before/ar-BB11vM6D
"Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know."
Why is anyone surprised at how this sh*tshow is playing out?
Look no further than the CDC and FDA fucking up the testing for this.
Or Dr Fauci and the CD s performance during the beginning of the AIDS outbreak.
Maybe the CDC should stop wasting time and resources on bogus anti gun "studies" and do its job
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Who is dumber - the orange turd or the GOP white grievance voters that believe him?
(https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/147/36/Quotation-Donald-Trump-Our-country-is-being-run-by-incompetent-people-147-36-16.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/used-to-meeting-challenges-with-bluster-and-force-trump-confronts-a-crisis-unlike-any-before/ar-BB11vM6D
"Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know."
Why is anyone surprised at how this sh*tshow is playing out?
are you a ' black grievance ' voter ? ???
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Says who?Many estimates put it way above that if we can't contain it/find a vaccine.Look at the societal effects already, the panic, people not being able to get hold of types of food etc.When the icus and hospitals fill up with older people/people with co-morbidities, then anyone else who needs treatment for anything suffers, or just plain can't get treatment at all.Everyone focusing on the fact the young won't get hit hard so the world will be fine, really live in some kind of bubble where cause and effect doesn't exist.
Army brother... relax.
You are talking yourself into some sort of mania. And not Hulkamania.
Please slow it down... Slow it way down.
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WHO'S "WE", SUCKA?! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Army brother... relax.
You are talking yourself into some sort of mania. And not Hulkamania.
Please slow it down... Slow it way down.
I'm sure half the people laying on the floor here were relaxed and taking it slow a few weeks ago.Im relaxed, but to deny where this is heading is delusional.
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300.000 people infected so far, hell of a hoax, just to discredit someone. but we still have bread so all is saved.
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300.000 people infected so far, hell of a hoax, just to discredit someone. but we still have bread so all is saved.
The President never called it a hoax.
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The President never called it a hoax.
wow, that makes me feel so much better now. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-he-took-coronavirus-seriously-after-calling-it-a-hoax-2020-3
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wow, that makes me feel so much better now. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-he-took-coronavirus-seriously-after-calling-it-a-hoax-2020-3
He never called it a hoax. Stupid for him to use the word, even though he was correct in the context of which it was used, but he never said COVID-19 is a hoax.
There are transcripts and audio/video out there.
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He never called it a hoax. Stupid for him to use the word, even though he was correct in the context of which it was used, but he never said COVID-19 is a hoax.
There are transcripts and audio/video out there.
i understand. so if it's something that by some miracle goes right it's because of trump, but when things go wrong he's not responsible.
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i understand. so if it's something that by some miracle goes right it's because of trump, but when things go wrong he's not responsible.
You're talking about things that aren't being discussed.
You said Trump called COVID-19 a "Hoax," when, in fact, he did not. That's an objective fact. Just like the same people attacking Trump for not taking this seriously enough early on were the same people saying he was overreacting and racist for his travel ban in January and that the initial task force, also in January, wasn't diverse enoug.
End of story.
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You're talking about things that aren't being discussed.
You said Trump called COVID-19 a "Hoax," when, in fact, he did not. That's an objective fact. Just like the same people attacking Trump for not taking this seriously enough early on were the same people saying he was overreacting and racist for his travel ban in January and that the initial task force, also in January, wasn't diverse enough.
End of story.
he said it was a democratic hoax meant to hurt his run for 2020. who gives a shit work together to solve the immediate problem, it's not always about him. be a leader for a change. period.
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he said it was a democratic hoax meant to hurt his run for 2020. who gives a shit work together to solve the immediate problem, it's not always about him. be a leader for a change. period.
Funk- don’t you have to get back to POF and update your anemic profile?
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Funk- don’t you have to get back to POF and update your anemic profile?
i'm crushed :D but glad to see you're back trolling on pof . i'm hoping that you soon find the man of your dreams and live happily ever after....
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300.000 people infected so far, hell of a hoax, just to discredit someone. but we still have bread so all is saved.
Almost 8,000,000,000 people on earth. Suppose you could do the math?
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The coronavirus is a hoax
Who could pull of a hoax on the entire world? Seems quite unlikely to me.
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Does anyone know anybody that knows any person that knows anyone that knows ANYONE any where who has died from this diabolical worldwide virus ?
So far as I know, nobody in my circle has COVID-19 or more to your point has died from it. I hope that doesn't change.
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Does anyone know anybody that knows any person that knows anyone that knows ANYONE any where who has died from this diabolical worldwide virus ?
Tommywishesforbone, the bulk of your recent postings have been coronavirus related. I’m starting to get the feeling you are utterly terrified and you feel that if you downplay its seriousness it will cease to exist.
We are here for you, in this time of tremendous need. I’m sure your low body weight and certainly normal blood pressure are positive signs of your obvious ability fight off this common flu.
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woooooooshhhh?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-lines-multi-trillion-dollar-coronavirus-aid-packages-163803368.html
Washington (AFP) - A trillion-dollar Senate proposal to rescue the reeling US economy crashed to defeat Sunday after receiving zero support from Democrats, and with five Republicans absent from the chamber because of virus-related quarantines.
Democrats said the Republican proposal failed to sufficiently protect millions of American workers during the coronavirus crisis.
The bill, which proposed up to $2 trillion in funding for American families, thousands of shuttered or suffering businesses and the nation's critically under-equipped hospitals, fell far short despite intense negotiations between Republicans, Democrats and President Donald Trump's administration.
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he said it was a democratic hoax meant to hurt his run for 2020. who gives a shit work together to solve the immediate problem, it's not always about him. be a leader for a change. period.
This bullshit Democrat crying point no longer has any credibility at all after they voted down the Coronavirus Stimulus Package.
There is not a shred of truth to anything the libidiots claim about President Trump not doing enough.
WHEN IT WAS TIME TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE DEMOCRATS POLITICIZED AND VOTED DOWN A NECESSARY AID PACKAGE THAT WILL RESULT IN THE DEATHS OF U.S. CITIZENS.
There should be a special place in hell for Pelosi and Schumer.
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With all due respect to old people, we have to be very careful now that Medicare is covering the Corona Virus full hospital stays. We have enough numbers now to know it primarily affects the elderly, and Medicare covering things "related" to Corona Virus can include all sorts of exams, treatments, x-rays and procedures The cost will be astronomical, and they want to delay the spread to delay the costs, not because they love old people. The terror factor is to scare young healthy people that it can kill them so they won't risk getting something that will not. But they will be so scared, they stay indoors, not protecting their life, but preventing a bad flu and keeping Medicare from going bankrupt. It's always about money.
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Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.
Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?
59 minutes.
The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.
ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.
Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.
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Tommywishesforbone, the bulk of your recent postings have been coronavirus related. I’m starting to get the feeling you are utterly terrified and you feel that if you downplay its seriousness it will cease to exist.
We are here for you, in this time of tremendous need. I’m sure your low body weight and certainly normal blood pressure are positive signs of your obvious ability fight off this common flu.
:D I love it! Merci chaton merci! And my body weight is way too high... for most cows. My BP is OK. Not great but OK. I won't die on you.
Stay cool my friend.
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:D I love it! Merci chaton merci! And my body weight is way too high... for most cows. My BP is OK. Not great but OK. I won't die on you.
Stay cool my friend.
The odds are in our favor, old friend.
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Democrats block coronavirus stimulus package.
Some people are so infinitely stupid they should just be killed.
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Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.
Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?
59 minutes.
The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.
ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.
Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.
How fatal is this disease? The vast majority that died were the elderly and those that had preexisting conditions just like the flu. Everyone that they featured on TV that tested positive seemed fine and said they felt OK. How bad can a disease be when so many that have it don't even have symptoms? I've never seen anyone with the flu that didn't have symptoms. A good friend of mine got the flu bad about three months ago. He was out for about ten days. He's fine now. His wife and kids didn't move out or isolate him. They just were careful when around him. Just like everybody is now. More so than at any time in history.
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Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.
Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?
59 minutes.
The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.
ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.
Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.
We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol
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Temporary bill of privileges... not constitutional rights
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/doj-wants-suspend-constitutional-rights-205444026.html
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Bad news for americans:
Albania: an obese 43-year-old man has died.
The National Center for Health Statistics estimates that, for 2015-2016 in the U.S., 39.8% of adults aged 20 and over were obese.
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Many Americans are just begging for their rights to be squashed. Embracing it. You literally have people in authority in Dallas that say 480,000 will die in their state. What is wrong with them and you people in this thread that have nothing of actual substance to back up what you are saying? I don't care about your false models/fake estimates, etc. None of what you are purporting has been true.
So stupid and destructive. Its disgusting how quickly we give in and so many want the government to shut down businesses, etc. and effectively shut down lives. Biggest stupidity of my lifetime.
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Many Americans are just begging for their rights to be squashed. Embracing it. You literally have people in authority in Dallas that say 480,000 will die in their state. What is wrong with them and you people in this thread that have nothing of actual substance to back up what you are saying? I don't care about your false models/fake estimates, etc. None of what you are purporting has been true.
So stupid and destructive. Its disgusting how quickly we give in and so many want the government to shut down businesses, etc. and effectively shut down lives. Biggest stupidity of my lifetime.
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Our Governor here showed a graph where in the next couple of months all the hospitals will be overrun and we'll be doomed. Isn't the fact that all the businesses here are close, all public events canceled, people are isolating themselves, and everyone is a hygiene freak now is not going to have any effect at all?
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Hardly a surprise is it? ::)
"According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics - the nation has the second oldest population worldwide - and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.
The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”
A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.
And according to modelling the majority of this age group are likely to need critical hospital care - including 80 per cent of 80-somethings - putting immense pressure on the health system.
But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. "
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/)
http://www.euro.who.int/en/data-and-evidence/evidence-informed-policy-making/european-advisory-committee-on-health-research-eachr/committee-members/professor-walter-ricciardi-italy (http://www.euro.who.int/en/data-and-evidence/evidence-informed-policy-making/european-advisory-committee-on-health-research-eachr/committee-members/professor-walter-ricciardi-italy)
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Who could pull of a hoax on the entire world? Seems quite unlikely to me.
Well, getbiggers said this is all a hoax, so it must be a hoax.
I have posed the question of what do we do now, since getbiggers have established its a hoax. What are the next steps? I have yet to receive an answer.
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Everyone ought take a moment to really understand exponential growth.
Imagine a petri dish with a bacteria culture. This culture doubles every minute. If I tell you this bacteria will have spread to the entire dish in 60 minutes at what time will the dish be half full?
59 minutes.
The symptoms can be severe enough to demand intensive care, and where you still have half your beds one day, the next day you will be exceeding capacity.
ASSUMING everyone had perfect access to medical care, respirators, etc, yeah, maybe it could be handled.
Once hospitals are swamped however, it won't just be corona killing people.
Bacteria don't grow that fast brah...
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Our Governor here showed a graph where in the next couple of months all the hospitals will be overrun and we'll be doomed. Isn't the fact that all the businesses here are close, all public events canceled, people are isolating themselves, and everyone is a hygiene freak now is not going to have any effect at all?
They don't know fuck all, they're in a flustered panic...
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We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol
Lol, good zinger at the end. ;D ;D
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I hope for the end of the turd world. Civilized nations should band together against the Coronavirus and the viruses of islime, liberalism, cuckoldry, Hollyweird and the greenies, et al as well as other degenerates. Cast them out to be on their own and let them work to become civilized and industrious or fade away as they should.
Otherwise, we are all screwed.
We are not gonna get screwed. Fuck the "if it feeeeels good, do it" people. Fuck the muslime BS. Fuck Hollyweirdos. They are not fooling anyone with their #BS. They went along with Weinstein, Epstein and anything goes to further their own careers and coffers.
Let 'em choke on their woke. Real people can fight back and get through this.
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We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol
Only needs to be exponential to the point of filling hospitals, ive said this for over a month.Its more like the bench press record only being 150 pounds.The plateau and decline could still be many many times more than what hospitals can handle.
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this guy will be the world Hero of this crisis.
https://www.en24.news/a/2020/03/hydroxychloroquine-would-be-effective-according-to-professor-raoult-of-the-ihu-in-marseille-after-a-first-limited-test.html (https://www.en24.news/a/2020/03/hydroxychloroquine-would-be-effective-according-to-professor-raoult-of-the-ihu-in-marseille-after-a-first-limited-test.html)
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Well, getbiggers said this is all a hoax, so it must be a hoax.
I have posed the question of what do we do now, since getbiggers have established its a hoax. What are the next steps? I have yet to receive an answer.
Resume your normal life.
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wooooosh?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/?fbclid=IwAR39SfqFXBIBnnuVAMaH51K_tSZmsLa8k6lZiE3ocDNOj2ipKH-6vKxWm_Q
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wooooosh?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/?fbclid=IwAR39SfqFXBIBnnuVAMaH51K_tSZmsLa8k6lZiE3ocDNOj2ipKH-6vKxWm_Q
Shut down the country!!! Hide the bodies!!
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Media hiding the young, healthy people that get it because they know they'll be talking to someone with the flu. Just random reports of "bodies". No one has a YouTube channel called "Living with Corona" or some shit? The few media reports of a young healthy person that had it, show someone that has the flu. But that doesn't fit the terror narrative.
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Media hiding the young, healthy people that get it because they know they'll be talking to someone with the flu. Just random reports of "bodies". No one has a YouTube channel called "Living with Corona" or some shit? The few media reports of a young healthy person that had it, show someone that has the flu. But that doesn't fit the terror narrative.
I’m not really sure of what is & isn’t going on.
I do believe Their is a Virus & Probably a Horrible One at that,
Though it’s fairly clear there is a lot of miss information & Scaremongering Going On
And there’s very little being said about the Drugs that are showing potential in helping
People - I’d of thought that would be main headline everywhere- Instead it’s just Constantly
Doom & Gloom.
Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?
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We can tell who skipped the lessons on differential equations and integral calculus at school- you. Exponential growth of viral infections is always the case in the beginning, followed by a plateau and then a decline. I’ll bet you are the kind of guy who sees an increase in strength on the bench press of 10 pounds a week in the beginning and figures in 50 weeks you’ll have the world record, lol
I’m sure Army means well - not so sure all the doom & gloom is helping anyone or doing any good.
And I’m most certainly no math wizard so I can’t really comment on the Exponential growth business.
Though your analogy is amusing.
To me from what I’ve read & heard from various sources the Figures just don’t add up with the Doom & Gloom End of the Human Race predictions -
I’d much rather see & hear of drugs / things to help sort this out - Some much Needed Positivity
Would be Good.
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I’m sure Army means well - not so sure all the doom & gloom is helping anyone or doing any good.
And I’m most certainly no math wizard so I can’t really comment on the Exponential growth business.
Though your analogy is amusing.
To me from what I’ve read & heard from various sources the Figures just don’t add up with the Doom & Gloom End of the Human Race predictions -
I’d much rather see & hear of drugs / things to help sort this out - Some much Needed Positivity
Would be Good.
You HAVE to be doom and gloom to get the point across.Putin came out today and said you either spend 14 days in isolation or spend 5 years in prison.You can't do the softly softly approach in a once in a lifetime pandemic, it just doesn't work.People are too selfish.Thats why I was doom and gloom a month go, hopefully some here listened and were able to avoid the food rush etc, avoided getting themselves infected and maybe prevented a death of them or their relatives.
Everyone here was saying well there's nothing we can do, so why talk about it, which was insane to me.The thing that will save millions of lives, our economy etc, is strict social distancing, isolation, preparing etc.The very opposite of doing nothing, and exactly what every government in the world right now is trying to drill in to the heads of the selfish assholes who believe they are above the law, above catching it, spreading it etc.
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Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?
Very simple.
China has 4 times the population of the US .It is almost an arithmetic certainly that ,in a couple of decades, its per capita nominal GDP about a half that of America's and ,consequently , it will have twice the nominal GDP of America.
China is becoming a world leader in semiconductors, mobile technology, AI, and supercomputers and seems to have mastered the metallurgy for jet engines and is building up tis own aircraft carrier fleet
It is also doing well from global warming with rising CO2 increasing crop yields in China . The permafrost In Siberia, in China's ally country ,Russia, will in few years melt .freeing up vast tracts of land for agriculture. Global warming will also melt ice in the Arctic waters and open up the Northeast/ Northwest Passage , opening up shorter trade routes from Europe to Asia and vice versa This will also allow Chinese shipping to bypass the US Pacific Fleet and allow Chinese warship to pass through the Bering Strait, between Russia and Canada, and converge on the northern flanks of Europe and the Americas .
America has to reset, retool, restructure its economy and industries to deal with the Chinese challenge to its hegemon status. And now I guess is as good as time as any to do it.
Elon Musk ,last month, give an idea of the sort of thinking that goes on among the top generals and industrialists, in the US.
"A thing that will feel pretty strange is that the Chinese economy is probably going to be at least twice as big as the United States' economy, maybe three times," Musk said during a fireside chat with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida. with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida.
"The foundation of war is economics," Musk said. "If you have half the resources of the counterparty then you better be real innovative, if you're not innovative, you're going to lose."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html)
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"...the permafrost in Seberia is going to melt..."
;D I've got nothing for that.
This thread is now closed. Good bye citizens.
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Very simple.
China has 4 times the population of the US .It is almost an arithmetic certainly that ,in a couple of decades, its per capita nominal GDP about a half that of America's and ,consequently , it will have twice the nominal GDP of America.
China is becoming a world leader in semiconductors, mobile technology, AI, and supercomputers and seems to have mastered the metallurgy for jet engines and is building up tis own aircraft carrier fleet
It is also doing well from global warming with rising CO2 increasing crop yields in China . The permafrost In Siberia, in China's ally country ,Russia, will in few years melt .freeing up vast tracts of land for agriculture. Global warming will also melt ice in the Arctic waters and open up the Northeast/ Northwest Passage , opening up shorter trade routes from Europe to Asia and vice versa This will also allow Chinese shipping to bypass the US Pacific Fleet and allow Chinese warship to pass through the Bering Strait, between Russia and Canada, and converge on the northern flanks of Europe and the Americas .
America has to reset, retool, restructure its economy and industries to deal with the Chinese challenge to its hegemon status. And now I guess is as good as time as any to do it.
Elon Musk ,last month, give an idea of the sort of thinking that goes on among the top generals and industrialists, in the US.
"A thing that will feel pretty strange is that the Chinese economy is probably going to be at least twice as big as the United States' economy, maybe three times," Musk said during a fireside chat with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida. with U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. John Thompson at the Air Warfare Symposium in Orlando, Florida.
"The foundation of war is economics," Musk said. "If you have half the resources of the counterparty then you better be real innovative, if you're not innovative, you're going to lose."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/musk-says-chinese-economy-will-surpass-the-us-by-two-or-three-times.html)
Ok - Clearly I would expect China’s economy to surpass the USA’s as they have such a vast population.
Only what has all that to do with this Virus Going About & Many Countries shutting down.
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You HAVE to be doom and gloom to get the point across.Putin came out today and said you either spend 14 days in isolation or spend 5 years in prison.You can't do the softly softly approach in a once in a lifetime pandemic, it just doesn't work.People are too selfish.Thats why I was doom and gloom a month go, hopefully some here listened and were able to avoid the food rush etc, avoided getting themselves infected and maybe prevented a death of them or their relatives.
Everyone here was saying well there's nothing we can do, so why talk about it, which was insane to me.The thing that will save millions of lives, our economy etc, is strict social distancing, isolation, preparing etc.The very opposite of doing nothing, and exactly what every government in the world right now is trying to drill in to the heads of the selfish assholes who believe they are above the law, above catching it, spreading it etc.
Fair points. - Though I’m not with you on the doom & gloom business.
People will do what people will do. Like it or Not were All going to die at some point - some sooner
Than others - Perhaps Some Just Take that view & think what will Be will Be.
No I’m not advocating that.
From the figures so far it appears an awfully Big Hammer to Crack a rather small nut.
It still doesn’t answer why they’re not Pushing the Drugs that are showing good promise
And Letting them be circulated to all who need them.
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South Africa will be in lockdown for 3 weeks.
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18-44yr olds make up the bulk of the new york state cases
https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/new-yorkers-aged-18-44-make-up-bulk-of-coronavirus-cases/
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I’m not really sure of what is & isn’t going on.
I do believe Their is a Virus & Probably a Horrible One at that,
Though it’s fairly clear there is a lot of miss information & Scaremongering Going On
And there’s very little being said about the Drugs that are showing potential in helping
People - I’d of thought that would be main headline everywhere- Instead it’s just Constantly
Doom & Gloom.
Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?
Great post, the constant fear mongering has been over played and it is making people suspicious as to the real goings on.
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Joe Biden has a plan:
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Olympics postponed til 2021
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18-44yr olds make up the bulk of the new york state cases
https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/new-yorkers-aged-18-44-make-up-bulk-of-coronavirus-cases/
What percentage of those are going to ICU or dying?
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What percentage of those are going to ICU or dying?
the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly
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the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly
Of course. Iceland has tested the highest percentage of their population and had a .2% mortality rate and .4% of people in intensive care. And i'm counting the dead guy as being in intensive care.
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Australia and New Zealand now in Lockdown
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We are all gonna die...
Has that been posted in this wacko thread yet?
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Interesting , if true.
"People are still testing positive for the new coronavirus in Wuhan four days after China said there have been no new cases at the epicenter of its outbreak, a local magazine reported, raising concerns that the virus could still be spreading in the city.
“There are still a few or a dozen asymptomatic people every day,” an unidentified official at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in a Monday article by Caixin, referring to those who have the virus but don’t display any symptoms. “It can’t be determined whether transmission has been completely cut off in Wuhan,” the official said.
People who have caught the virus but don’t display symptoms such as cough, fever and muscle pain have been reported in several countries as the pathogen has spread to almost all parts of the world, killing nearly 14,700 and sickening more than 340,000. These asymptomatic carriers appear to be able to transmit the virus to others, according to experts, complicating efforts to stop its spread.
Unlike other countries like South Korea, which counts everyone who’s tested positive as a confirmed case, China does not include asymptomatic infections in its official count. It also does not disclose the number of people in this category, raising concerns that its much-publicized drop to zero new cases last week cannot be taken at face value."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports)
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the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly
The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.
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Interesting , if true.
"People are still testing positive for the new coronavirus in Wuhan four days after China said there have been no new cases at the epicenter of its outbreak, a local magazine reported, raising concerns that the virus could still be spreading in the city.
“There are still a few or a dozen asymptomatic people every day,” an unidentified official at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in a Monday article by Caixin, referring to those who have the virus but don’t display any symptoms. “It can’t be determined whether transmission has been completely cut off in Wuhan,” the official said.
People who have caught the virus but don’t display symptoms such as cough, fever and muscle pain have been reported in several countries as the pathogen has spread to almost all parts of the world, killing nearly 14,700 and sickening more than 340,000. These asymptomatic carriers appear to be able to transmit the virus to others, according to experts, complicating efforts to stop its spread.
Unlike other countries like South Korea, which counts everyone who’s tested positive as a confirmed case, China does not include asymptomatic infections in its official count. It also does not disclose the number of people in this category, raising concerns that its much-publicized drop to zero new cases last week cannot be taken at face value."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports)
Whistleblowers and residents in Wuhan say China is lying about lack of new cases of coronavirus.
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Most of us greeted the news from China that there were no new cases in Wuhan with a grain of salt. It turns out that our suspicious skepticism was warranted. From Yahoo News:
Even before COVID-19 became a global crisis, Chinese leaders had been criticized for their handling of the situation and lack of transparency about the disease’s progression. Things now look like they’re on the upswing, and businesses even appear to be headed back to work — but whistleblowers and local officials tell Caixan that’s just a carefully crafted ruse.
Beijing has spent much of the outbreak pushing districts to carry on business as usual, with some local governments subsidizing electricity costs and even installing mandatory productivity quotas. Zhejiang, a province east of the epicenter city of Wuhan, claimed as of Feb. 24 it had restored 98.6 percent of its pre-coronavirus work capacity.
But civil servants tell Caixan that businesses are actually faking these numbers. Beijing had started checking Zhejiang businesses’ electricity consumption levels, so district officials ordered the companies to start leaving their lights and machinery on all day to drive the numbers up, one civil servant said. Businesses have reportedly falsified staff attendance logs as well — they “would rather waste a small amount of money on power than irritate local officials,” Caixan writes.
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And I don't trust this prick.
Fauci Love Letter to Hillary Clinton Surfaces….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/yYpXzCRd/Hillary-Clinton-China-435x245.jpg)
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The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.
x2 This is my Thoughts Also & Get them malaria medications chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine and the two HIV drugs, lopinavir and ritonavir out there Asap to the hospitals to help people.
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The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.
Exactly. Personal hygiene and being aware of your surroundings and other people and taking the appropriate precautions, restricting foreign travel and borders... People are more aware than ever before in history the importance of hygiene and being aware of what you touch and where you touch. We are much safer from all communicable diseases than ever before. Shutting down the country and ruining the economy and people's ability to make a living will do far more harm than good. More lives will be ruined and lost than this virus will do.
I don't know anybody that has this virus and nobody I know knows anybody that has this virus either. Those that I see on the news with the virus either show no symptoms or are far from dying. Virtually everybody I know has lost their job or have it severely impacted their employment. My sister who is a flight attendant had her hours cut by 40% (she's been a flight attendant for 30 years).
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Not going to read all 80 pages here to see if it has been posted already, but this is a graphical representation of Farr's law . The total number of cases is the same (area under the curve), barring a sudden cure. Every disease known to man does this. The "flattening" of the curve just, in theory, slows down admissions to the hospital. But since we really don't know how severe the disease actually is, this is just a guess. Maybe most people normally wouldn't go to the hospital because the symptoms are not as bad as the scaremongers have you believe.
The panic and hysteria is far worse than the actual virus. We can thank certain politicians for that for that and their accomplices in the media. The collapse of the US economy will lead to far more damage. But we all knew that.
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Not going to read all 80 pages here to see if it has been posted already, but this is a graphical representation of Farr's law . The total number of cases is the same (area under the curve), barring a sudden cure. Every disease known to man does this. The "flattening" of the curve just, in theory, slows down admissions to the hospital. But since we really don't know how severe the disease actually is, this is just a guess. Maybe most people normally wouldn't go to the hospital because the symptoms are not as bad as the scaremongers have you believe.
The panic and hysteria is far worse than the actual virus. We can thank certain politicians for that for that and their accomplices in the media. The collapse of the US economy will lead to far more damage. But we all knew that.
So in that Graphic it peaks much higher & quicker & also fades away quicker without the Measures in place
- With the exception of Loss of Life it’s a Preferable situation.
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So in that Graphic it peaks much higher & quicker & also fades away quicker without the Measures in place
- With the exception of Loss of Life it’s a Preferable situation.
Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.
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Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.
Yes - Possibly you’re correct- Though we are seeing in some places ( if the various reports are correct) looting & Robberies / muggings already escalating.
If this lockdown business carries on I could also see a Complete Breakdown of Society Happening-
Hopefully I’ll be Wrong on that.
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My neighbours are doctors working in a major hospital.
I had a chat with one yesterday and asked what he was really seeing.
He said it's a mess. They get 8,000 people in but only 40 test positive. He said the killer is having to treat all 8,000 as if they are positive. On top of that, these same people coming in are stealing all their supplies and they have run out.
8,000 rock up with symptoms but only 40 give a positive? How accurate are these tests?
Does one conclude the most contageous virus ever is not very contageous whilst at the same time less contageous viruses are rampant?
Or is it more sensible to conclude the virus is already everywhere but the tests are extremely narrow in it's ability to confirm a positive?
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Yes - Possibly you’re correct- Though we are seeing in some places ( if the various reports are correct) looting & Robberies / muggings already escalating.
If this lockdown business carries on I could also see a Complete Breakdown of Society Happening-
Hopefully I’ll be Wrong on that.
I agree, its very possible, even if the curve does stay flattened.The lure of empty stores will be too tempting for some.At the sametime the response by police/army/public would be whatever punishment they got they deserved.I suspect all the PC leftist nonsense has gone out the window for now.
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My neighbours are doctors working in a major hospital.
I had a chat with one yesterday and asked what he was really seeing.
He said it's a mess. They get 8,000 people in but only 40 test positive. He said the killer is having to treat all 8,000 as if they are positive. On top of that, these same people coming in are stealing all their supplies and they have run out.
8,000 rock up with symptoms but only 40 give a positive? How accurate are these tests?
Does one conclude the most contageous virus ever is not very contageous whilst at the same time less contageous viruses are rampant?
Or is it more sensible to conclude the virus is already everywhere but the tests are extremely narrow in it's ability to confirm a positive?
Makes sense, the media has everyone believing that the gas bubble in their gut from drinking to much the night before is a symptom of corona and they should get tested. The problem isn't the number of cases, the problem is the panic caused by the media that creates the overflow of douchenozzles into the hospitals.
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Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.
Army, outside of the pregnant woman, wouldnt everyone you described die anyway, based on what we know about how this virus attacks the weak and that 80% of theo worlds population is going to be infected unless there is an approved cure?
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he speaks the truth, it is easy to see why the weak minded don't like him.
And I don't trust this prick.
Fauci Love Letter to Hillary Clinton Surfaces….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7LrDwt8/Anthony-S-Fauci-M-D-NIAID-Director-26759498706.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/yYpXzCRd/Hillary-Clinton-China-435x245.jpg)
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-trump-struggles-to-adjust-to-crisis-presidency/ar-BB11BiVG
WASHINGTON (AP) — "President Donald Trump has never been known for his patience or long attention span."
Translation for GOP voters - Donald Trump is dumb, and ill equipped for the job (or any job)
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Man, this fat piece of crap looks ugly
How many coats today?
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I've asked this before:
If not Trump, then it would've been Hillary, do you think that would've been better?
How?
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he speaks the truth, it is easy to see why the weak minded don't like him.
Actually, I'd say that it is the weak-minded following the advice of this fool.
A clown like you is the perfect example. ::)
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I've asked this before:
If not Trump, then it would've been Hillary, do you think that would've been better?
How?
She would have killed the virus quickly and discreetly before anyone knew about it. When people started uncovering what had happened with the virus there would be a new catastrophe to brush it under the rug.
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Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.
strong point. I agree. People would riot.
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300.000 people infected so far, hell of a hoax, just to discredit someone. but we still have bread so all is saved.
the virus will top 400,000 today. my state is on lock down went from 33 cases to 679 in a few days. maybe we should bail out the oil industry.
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the virus will top 400,000 today. my state is on lock down went from 33 cases to 679 in a few days. maybe we should bail out the oil industry.
if they didnt test anyone the number of cases would be just the people who died, the more they test the worse it looks
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-trump-struggles-to-adjust-to-crisis-presidency/ar-BB11BiVG
WASHINGTON (AP) — "President Donald Trump has never been known for his patience or long attention span."
Translation for GOP voters - Donald Trump is dumb, and ill equipped for the job (or any job)
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Man, this fat piece of crap looks ugly
How many coats today?
not enough, put lipstick on a pig at the end of the day it's still a pig.
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if they didnt test anyone the number of cases would be just the people who died, the more they test the worse it looks
;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
the point is the more they ramp up the testing the worse its going to look, as such more panic
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the point is the more they ramp up the testing the worse its going to look, as such more panic
i know, i'm just kidding with you. that's a valid point. just a little scary because measures are being taken and it continues to multiply.
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Our fearless leader.
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Wouldn't mind seeing the Swedes stick with their herd immunity strategy.
A few years down the line we might see how effective or not it was compared to complete lockdown.
"Swedish PM warned over 'Russian roulette-style' Covid-19 strategy
Health experts say attempt to build herd immunity is a ‘mad experiment with 10m people’
Unlike most EU countries, however – including its Nordic neighbours Denmark, Norway and Finland – it has not introduced stricter suppression and social distancing orders such as closing bars, restaurants non-essential shops and lower schools, nor has it placed citizens in near-total lockdown, as in Italy, Spain and France.
Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, has denied the country’s approach is to rapidly build group immunity to the virus, a tactic seemingly pursued in Britain and the Netherlands until both recently changed tack after warnings that their health systems could be overwhelmed and death tolls would soar.
But Tegnell conceded to the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper last week that such an objective was “not contradictory” with what he described as the government’s core strategy, which was to ensure “a slow spread of infection, and that the health services have a reasonable workload”.
On Sunday night, Tegnell told Swedish TV the outbreak would “calm down” in May but return in the autumn. “It will be important how much of the population is infected,” he said. “It will determine what happens in the autumn.” Coronavirus could be stopped either by “herd immunity, or a combination of immunity and vaccination”, he said. “It’s basically the same thing.” "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/swedish-pm-warned-russian-roulette-covid-19-strategy-herd-immunity (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/swedish-pm-warned-russian-roulette-covid-19-strategy-herd-immunity)
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Army, outside of the pregnant woman, wouldnt everyone you described die anyway, based on what we know about how this virus attacks the weak and that 80% of theo worlds population is going to be infected unless there is an approved cure?
No as respirators and intensive care do saves lives, you do the big peak and many more die as the huge influx means they can't get support care through the illness. This is the thinking and reason to "flatten the curve"..
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8003 new cases and 114 new deaths in the US
Peak number of cases is still 2 to 3 weeks away in New York
"The numbers are higher in New York because it started here first, it has a lot of international travelers and has high density, but you will see this in cities all across the country, and in suburban communities. Where we are today, you'll be in 4 weeks or 6 weeks.
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Its not killing anyone who wasn't almost dead anyway, nature has been doing it since the beginning of time, it will send more fit and able people bankrupt than it will kill. The old and vulnerable should have been quarantined along with those that care for them. This virus is being used as an attack on capitalism not to dissimilar to climate change, yes people are dying, we all are, and 15% of people over 70 or 80 isn't that bad a number, your talking 15% of who get it, not 15% of that population, plenty of good people never got that far due to heart disease cancer, accidents, murder crime etc. World needs to get a grip, this is becoming an economic crisis over a health one, its not the plague, its not killing young people or any taxpayers in the work place, its killing old sick people, don't abandon them quarantine them, but ruining the global economy for people whom were lucky enough to live to a ripe old age with only a few years to go is just madness.
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the virus will top 400,000 today. my state is on lock down went from 33 cases to 679 in a few days. maybe we should bail out the oil industry.
another day cases are up to 851 imagine if we weren't under quarantine.
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a new federal health report says Americans of all ages have faced serious health complications amid the outbreak. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that among the roughly 12% of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. known to need hospitalizations, about 1 in 5 were among people ages 20 to 44. Anywhere from 14% to 21% of adults ages 20 to 44 with COVID-19 have been hospitalized, the CDC data estimates. Two to 4% of cases led to ICU admissions, and less than 1% were fatal.
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a new federal health report says Americans of all ages have faced serious health complications amid the outbreak. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that among the roughly 12% of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. known to need hospitalizations, about 1 in 5 were among people ages 20 to 44. Anywhere from 14% to 21% of adults ages 20 to 44 with COVID-19 have been hospitalized, the CDC data estimates. Two to 4% of cases led to ICU admissions, and less than 1% were fatal.
But do hospitalizations really matter that much? That could mena a person checked into a hospital got some drugs and left. I mean the main concern was overrunning the ICU. It's still around 2-3% of Covid-19 positive people aged 20-44 are admitted to ICU and 0% of 0-19 year olds. That's probably around 1% for 0-44 year old people total. That's really nothing to be alarmed about IMO. It's still the old people who have vastly higher ICU rates that we need to worry about.
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Great article on the UK and its lack of action resulting in todays fucked up situation
https://www.sodiumhaze.org/2020/03/22/12/?fbclid=IwAR3YPFEqiBjVYdd5Xo-k51Hi4LCFzQYJL18zgakIbM7PMrBLs87Q-d_pROQ
“The first coronavirus cases in Taiwan and Italy came only 10 days apart. On Sunday Taiwan, which has deep cultural and economic ties to China, has recorded just 153 cases and two deaths. Italy has more than 47,000 cases and 4,032 people have died.
Leaders are now taking measures that would have been unthinkable weeks or even days ago, locking down tens of millions of people from Berlin to Madrid and San Francisco and pouring billions into rescue plans. But had they acted a few weeks earlier, they could perhaps have avoided much of the human tragedy and economic catastrophe they now face.”
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we'll all be saved soon. ;D
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we'll all be saved soon. ;D
but warm climes do kill the virus, its well documented..
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but warm climes do kill the virus, its well documented..
we can only hope. https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/03/24/warm-humid-weather-coronavirus/
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Cases per million:
https://www.statista.com/chart/21176/covid-19-infection-density-in-countries-most-total-cases/
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Fatality rate by nation:
https://www.cebm.net/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/
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Cases per million:
https://www.statista.com/chart/21176/covid-19-infection-density-in-countries-most-total-cases/
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Fatality rate by nation:
https://www.cebm.net/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/
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That’s a massive difference in fatality rates between top 11% & bottom .37% !!!
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Crazy amount of deaths in Switzerland, maybe the richest country in the world.
Makes you wonder what will happen when the poorest countriest get the virus.
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States reject Trump's talk of restarting US economy early
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/states-reject-trumps-talk-of-restarting-us-economy-early/ar-BB11D2Te
Adults don't take directions from children............even if their daddy gave them millions of $
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A week after millions of Americans began taking shelter at home from the coronavirus, states warned on Tuesday against easing restrictions too soon even though the clampdown is devastating the U.S. economy.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo/© REUTERS / Brendan McDermid
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo/
President Donald Trump said on Monday he was considering how to restart business life when a 15-day shutdown ends next week, even as the highly contagious virus spreads rapidly and poorly equipped hospitals struggle with a wave of deadly cases.
A Republican, Trump is seeking to win re-election in November on a promise of economic growth.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat whose state of New York has become the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak with 25,665 cases, strongly opposed allowing people to travel, socialize and get back to workplaces too quickly.
"If you ask the American people to choose between public health and the economy, then it's no contest. No American is going to say accelerate the economy at the cost of human life," he said at a convention center in Manhattan that is being repurposed to fit beds for coronavirus patients.
Related video: See more from Cuomo's speech (provided by CNBC)
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Cuomo said the projected need for hospital beds in New York at the peak of the outbreak has jumped to 140,000, compared with the 53,000 that are available and that the apex of the outbreak could still be 14-21 days away
Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, told CNN on Tuesday: "We don't think that we're going to be in any way ready to be out of this in five or six days or so, or whenever this 15 days is up from the time that they started this imaginary clock."
More than 42,000 people in the United States have contracted COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the virus, and at least 620 have died. The World Health Organization on Tuesday warned that the United States has the potential to become the global epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic, citing a "very large acceleration" in infections.
Senior Pentagon leaders said on Tuesday that the outbreak could continue for months.
Trump issued guidelines last week that he said aimed to slow the spread of the disease over 15 days, including curbing unnecessary travel. Economic activity has ground to a halt in major states such as New York and California.
The coronavirus has shuttered thousands of U.S. businesses, thrown millions out of work and led state governors to order about 100 million people - nearly a third of the nation's population - to stay at home.
There were signs that nerves had begun fraying after days of people working from home, looking after children whose schools are shut and severely scaling back on everyday activities.
Steve Rubinstein, a small bottle of hand sanitizer dangling from his belt loop, was juggling his two small children as they played in a New York park. Both he and his wife are working from home.
"It's very challenging, my wife and I both work, we have fulltime jobs," he said. "But it's, yeah, it's nonstop, it's relentless," Rubinstein, 35, added about balancing work demands and keeping their children safe and entertained.
Trump told a White House news conference on Monday that "America will again and soon be open for business," saying the crisis should not "turn into a long-lasting financial problem."
Rapidly reopening the economy might backfire, with higher deaths and people remaining fearful of going out, according to investors who remain anxious about the coronavirus’ uncertain trajectory and its economic toll.
“Markets will react badly because they have learned that this approach doesn’t work,” Axel Merk, chief investment officer of Merk Investments, said. “From a medical point of view, you have to break the exponential growth and you do that with shelter in place policies.”
WALL STREET JUMPS
After taking a beating for most days in recent weeks, Wall Street bounced from three-year lows on Tuesday amid signs that Washington was nearing a deal on a $2 trillion package to rescue the economy from coronavirus. All three main U.S. stock indexes jumped more than 5%.
Negotiators predicted the U.S. Senate could pass the stimulus bill, which includes financial aid for ordinary Americans, small businesses and critically affected industries, as soon as Tuesday.
After criticism from Cuomo and others that Trump was not wielding special powers to force businesses to make medical equipment likes masks and ventilators, the federal government said on Tuesday it would use the Defense Production Act to procure 60,000 coronavirus test kits.
Peter Gaynor, the Federal Emergency Management Agency administrator, told CNN the Trump administration had decided to use the act because "there are some test kits we need to get our hands on." It would be the first time the act is being used for the coronavirus crisis.
For right now, Birx said people in the United States should continue to follow the guidelines of social distancing.
"What the president is doing is looking for the future ... not looking to change what we're doing now," she said.
Stephen Moore, an economic commentator said by Trump's aides to be influencing the president, told Reuters on Monday there was a re-examination in the White House of the wisdom of “a full scale … shutdown of the economy.”
He said there were some who thought that “if we go on too long with the economy shut down, the human toll for that could be greater than the risk of the virus."
Despite the huge changes to daily life, many Americans still say they are willing to make sacrifices.
Christine Schindler, 58, a former receptionist, was alone waiting for a bus on Manhattan’s Upper West Side on Tuesday. She said she thought it was dangerous to lift the restrictions too early for the sake of the economy.
“It’s going to come back up anyway, really, once things hit the bottom,” she said. “This is supposed to be the number one economy in the world.”
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Just flu!!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-trump-struggles-to-adjust-to-crisis-presidency/ar-BB11BiVG
WASHINGTON (AP) — "President Donald Trump has never been known for his patience or long attention span."
Translation for GOP voters - Donald Trump is dumb, and ill equipped for the job (or any job)
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Man, this fat piece of crap looks ugly
How many coats today?
Real translation: Doesn't have time for bull shit and idiots.
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Actually, I'd say that it is the weak-minded following the advice of this fool.
A clown like you is the perfect example. ::)
And you would follow the advice from Hilary.
Bottom line: We keep winning, you keep losing.
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And you would follow the advice from Hilary.
Bottom line: We keep winning, you keep losing.
;D ;D ;D
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if they didnt test anyone the number of cases would be just the people who died, the more they test the worse it looks
How is it that you of all people are the most logical in this situation? :D
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There was once a king in India who was a big chess enthusiast and had the habit of challenging wise visitors to a game of chess. One day a traveling sage was challenged by the king. The sage having played this game all his life all the time with people all over the world gladly accepted the Kings challenge. To motivate his opponent the king offered any reward that the sage could name. The sage modestly asked just for a few grains of rice in the following manner: the king was to put a single grain of rice on the first chess square and double it on every consequent one. The king accepted the sage’s request.
Having lost the game and being a man of his word the king ordered a bag of rice to be brought to the chess board. Then he started placing rice grains according to the arrangement: 1 grain on the first square, 2 on the second, 4 on the third, 8 on the fourth and so on.
Following the exponential growth of the rice payment, the king quickly realized that he was unable to fulfill his promise because on the twentieth square the king would have had to put 1,000,000 grains of rice. On the fortieth square, the king would have had to put 1,000,000,000 grains of rice. And, finally, on the sixty-fourth square, the king would have had to put more than 18,000,000,000,000,000,000 grains of rice which is equal to about 210 billion tons and is allegedly sufficient to cover the whole territory of India with a meter thick layer of rice.
It was at that point that the sage told the king that he doesn’t have to pay the debt immediately but can do so over time. And so the sage became the wealthiest person in the world.
Exponential growth ladies and gentlemen.
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My home for several years needs a spring cleaning. :(
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/03/24/sailors-on-board-carrier-theodore-roosevelt-test-positive-for-covid-19/
Three sailors aboard the carrier Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive for COVID-19, the Navy announced
Tuesday, the first cases of the disease caused by the novel coronavirus on a ship underway.
In a press conference with Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly and Chief of Naval Operations Adm.
Michael Gilday, Modly announced the three cases, adding that the service was working on evacuating the
sailors as soon as possible.
The spread of COVID-19 on an underway warship raises the frightening prospect of a new cluster of cases
among 5,000-plus deployed sailors, and marks a new chapter in the Navy’s fight to contain the spread within
its ranks. The service has documented nearly 90 cases to date, Modly said.
The Roosevelt was last in port in Da Nang, Vietnam, 15 days ago, Gilday said. The decision to go forward with
the port visit in early March was made when Vietnam had only 16 total cases, all isolated in the northern city
of Hanoi, he said.
It is unknown yet how the sailors may have contracted the illness, noting that aircraft land on the ship regularly
from outside the command, Gilday said, but that the Navy is trying to trace the sailors’ movements and isolate
sailors they’ve been in contact with.
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oh brother ::)
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the only thing positive to come out of the coronavirus
the possibility that this toupee wearing homo might die
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speaking of homo's dying, this queer claims to be ok with death as long as everyone goes back to work.
please kill yourself now
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Not to leave out the senator from south Carolina from a queer GOP post -
here's Lindsey Gayham -
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There was once a king in India who was a big chess enthusiast and had the habit of challenging wise visitors to a game of chess. One day a traveling sage was challenged by the king. The sage having played this game all his life all the time with people all over the world gladly accepted the Kings challenge. To motivate his opponent the king offered any reward that the sage could name. The sage modestly asked just for a few grains of rice in the following manner: the king was to put a single grain of rice on the first chess square and double it on every consequent one. The king accepted the sage’s request.
Having lost the game and being a man of his word the king ordered a bag of rice to be brought to the chess board. Then he started placing rice grains according to the arrangement: 1 grain on the first square, 2 on the second, 4 on the third, 8 on the fourth and so on.
Following the exponential growth of the rice payment, the king quickly realized that he was unable to fulfill his promise because on the twentieth square the king would have had to put 1,000,000 grains of rice. On the fortieth square, the king would have had to put 1,000,000,000 grains of rice. And, finally, on the sixty-fourth square, the king would have had to put more than 18,000,000,000,000,000,000 grains of rice which is equal to about 210 billion tons and is allegedly sufficient to cover the whole territory of India with a meter thick layer of rice.
It was at that point that the sage told the king that he doesn’t have to pay the debt immediately but can do so over time. And so the sage became the wealthiest person in the world.
Exponential growth ladies and gentlemen.
The prime minister of India just locked down the entire country of India for the next 21 days. That's 1/5th the worlds population.
This comes after shutting down their rail network a few days ago which is the 8th largest employer in the world.
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The prime minister of India just locked down the entire country of India for the next 21 days. That's 1/5th the worlds population.
This comes after shutting down their rail network a few days ago which is the 8th largest employer in the world.
Just flu? :D
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The prime minister of India just locked down the entire country of India for the next 21 days. That's 1/5th the worlds population.
This comes after shutting down their rail network a few days ago which is the 8th largest employer in the world.
But...who's going to answer when I call American Express?
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Australia and New Zealand now in Lockdown
New Zealand Yes but Australia not fully. They are still telling you to send kids to school. Gyms have been closed for at least 6 months. Last night they added beauty therapists and tattoo artist and other stuff to this ever growing list. However alcohol stores remain open as it’s deemed essential.
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But...who's going to answer when I call American Express?
That made me think of how many scam calls I won’t be getting now. Pakistan next!
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I don't live in that city.
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Fatality rate by nation:
https://www.cebm.net/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/
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Germans are very robust people
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New Zealand Yes but Australia not fully. They are still telling you to send kids to school. Gyms have been closed for at least 6 months. Last night they added beauty therapists and tattoo artist and other stuff to this ever growing list. However alcohol stores remain open as it’s deemed essential.
This sounds like an April fool's joke! 6 months?! I don't see that ever lasting - the public will revolt. It will have a huge impact on the economy and the health of many people who rely on the gym for cardiovascular health, mobility etc. They can instead develop a fast method to test for the coronavirus and screen everyone entering the gym. And make it mandatory to wipe down equipment with cleaners that will kill the virus.
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And you would follow the advice from Hilary.
Bottom line: We keep winning, you keep losing.
You're an idiot.
I'm a Trump guy, you moron.
My post was directed at dearth.
Learn to read. ::)
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And for the record, Fauci is Pro-Hillary and Anti-Trump.
Fauci Love Letter to Hillary Clinton Surfaces….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/)
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Germans are very robust people
and they will have previous experience of mass cremations..
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Garcetti ain't fckin around
Mayor Garcetti announces water and power will be shut off for nonessential L.A. businesses that don’t close
https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/mayor-garcetti-expected-to-hold-daily-briefing-on-l-a-s-covid-19-response/
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:)
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Deeply flawed study by Oxford that is getting torn to shreds all over the world at this point.
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Deeply flawed study by Oxford that is getting torn to shreds all over the world at this point.
What about it is flawed?
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Garcetti ain't fckin around
Mayor Garcetti announces water and power will be shut off for nonessential L.A. businesses that don’t close
https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/mayor-garcetti-expected-to-hold-daily-briefing-on-l-a-s-covid-19-response/
While LA's homeless are still allowed to "shelter" in place.
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What about it is flawed?
https://medium.com/@gidmk/coronavirus-hasnt-infected-more-than-half-of-the-united-kingdom-50e4fba32552
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What about it is flawed?
Results
"Our overall approach rests on the assumption that only a very small proportion of the population is at risk of hospitalisable illness."
The entire study is based on an "assumption".
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Germans are very robust people
Not today's generation, total softcocks >:(
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https://medium.com/@gidmk/coronavirus-hasnt-infected-more-than-half-of-the-united-kingdom-50e4fba32552
It's a model. You need to assume the value of p (percentage of infected needing critical medical assistance)
They went with what looks like unrealistic percentages in their paper. 1% and 0.1% which gave headline grabbing outcomes/borderline fake news, but their model also mirrored the actual death rate data when p was 10% and 3%
You can't say it's flawed unless you know the actual value of p and are able to run the model against the actual figures of a country which didn't take any measures to slow down the virus
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Gyms have been closed for at least 6 months.
Typo dude. Gyms only just closed ;)
My gym shut on the 23rd March.
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It's a model. You need to assume the value of p (percentage of infected needing critical medical assistance)
They went with what looks like unrealistic percentages in their paper. 1% and 0.1% which gave headline grabbing outcomes/borderline fake news, but their model also mirrored the actual death rate data when p was 10% and 3%
You can't say it's flawed unless you know the actual value of p and are able to run the model against the actual figures of a country which didn't take any measures to slow down the virus
Most on the ground and most who deal with what stats we know, when the virus started showing hospitalisations, incubation, proportion shown to be infected to not when testing etc, believe it's flawed.Marbles in a jar, wisdom of the crowd etc.Dont get me wrong I'd love for it to be true, I'd happily take shit on here for being wrong if this would all be over soon as most have become immune.But nothing points to that.
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Most on the ground and most who deal with what stats we know, when the virus started showing hospitalisations, incubation, proportion shown to be infected to not when testing etc, believe it's flawed.Marbles in a jar, wisdom of the crowd etc.Dont get me wrong I'd love for it to be true, I'd happily take shit on here for being wrong if this would all be over soon as most have become immune.But nothing points to that.
There is no true or false with the actual paper. It's just a model. They even make a point in the paper that they didn't use plausible values for p when talking about herd immunity.
It's an interesting paper, but it's been presented at the wrong time and publicized in a horrible way. I wouldn't write off the model completely though. The middle ground between the Oxford and Imperial papers are likely where the reality is.
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So the US is 10 days into their 15 days to slow the spread.
665,424 infected - will pass both Italy and China before those 15 days are over.
+10,568 new cases - that's in ONE day.
1,411 in serious, critical condition.
928 total deaths.
+148 new deaths in ONE day.
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And around 1/10th cases per million population of Switzerland and Italy.
This isn't aimed at you but i feel bad for Americans being made out like they are the problem in the world now (i am not in the US but this is how you are being portrayed now).
A number is meaningless without context.
US added 10k cases overnight on a population of 330M.
Look at all the european countries between 3% and 10% the size of the US and they are adding 3k- 7k per day.
Europe is spiralling and they are all getting sick at a much, much faster rate than the US. That should still be the main headline.
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I don't think the US is the problem of the world, but from what I understand they're behind some of those european countries, i.e. the worst is still to come.
Also some of those european countries are pretty big.
Italy is 60 million, Spain 47 million, Germany 83 million, France 67 million.
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I don't think the US is the problem of the world, but from what I understand they're behind some of those european countries, i.e. the worst is still to come.
Also some of those european countries are pretty big.
Italy is 60 million, Spain 47 million, Germany 83 million, France 67 million.
Some sparky news: ambulances & cops don't go to Paris 'No Go Zones' populated by arabs 8)
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Results
"Our overall approach rests on the assumption that only a very small proportion of the population is at risk of hospitalisable illness."
The entire study is based on an "assumption".
As are the presumptions that 22.5 million Californians will get it.
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I think the response should go by a State by State basis. Some States are hit much harder than others like New York and California. In Hawaii, we have 95 confirmed cases with the vast majority of 68 being on the main island, Oahu, where I live. We have zero deaths reported due to the coronavirus. There was one death reported but upon closer examination, this was found to be false. Still, we've shut down all businesses, malls, events, restaurants and fast-food drive-ins, schools, churches and places of worship, a curfew from 9 pm to 5 am, those violating the curfew can be fine up to $5,000 and a year in jail.
I think that temporarily closing our borders and the personal precautions people are already taking should be enough without having to shut down the whole State. There is already widespread testing and it's increased to six cases over the last couple of days.
Maybe another week or so to see if the amount goes up dramatically but with 68 cases in the most crowded and populated island of nearly a million people, it doesn't seem worth the cost to the livelihood of so many people. Again, I know of nobody, and know nobody that knows anybody, that has the virus, but everyone knows, including themselves, that are now without jobs and a way to support their families.
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I can see massive testings being a problem in New York, but on an island, with closed borders, surely it must be possible to test and trace those who are infected.
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I can see massive testings being a problem in New York, but on an island, with closed borders, surely it must be possible to test and trace those who are infected.
As I mentioned in my previous post, we are already doing widespread testing. If you have any symptoms at all and a temperature you can drive up and be tested at a Walgreens.
New York is so densely populated with people from all over the world coming and going. Also, it seems in those densely populated areas it is very dirty and unsanitary.
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Seal off Manhattan and put all affected and criminals there.
Build a wall around Manhattan!
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I think I saw that movie!
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true infection rates be known the mortality rate would be very low not as low as flu maybe but who knows with scare mongering wankers running around calling the end of the world its hard to tell as they want to just bombard others with distorted figures similar to the climate change argumemt, yes the climates being impacted by us, but no the world won't end, do we need to do something about it yes. Is this virus killing the old and weak and sometimes the young and vulnerable tragically, yes, but is it the end of the world, no its an epidemic that needs to be managed with as much compassion for life as possible but also against economic damage and the current response is economically reckless.There are far better ways of achieving a result than following the path of a bunch of dumb communists who built an economy on the back of cheap labor and stealing others countries intellectual property, as they lack the creative intelligence to invent things themselves.
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Even if i should perish from the Corona, i must say i am glad to have been with all of you here since 2003.
Wish you all the best in this crisis, wherever you are in the world.
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Why does this dumb baby think everything is about him?
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Trump accuses media of wanting to keep economy shut to hurt his reelection
Donald Trump has accused the media of wanting to keep the US economy shuttered during the coronavirus pandemic to undermine his chances of reelection.
The US president has been pushing to reopen swaths of the country by Easter – 12 April – despite warnings from medical experts that measures such as closing businesses and social distancing need more time to work.
“The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success,” he tweeted on Wednesday. “The real people want to get back to work ASAP. ”
Related: US Christian leaders criticise Trump's Easter coronavirus deadline
At Wednesday’s White House coronavirus task force briefing, Trump followed up with an aggressive denial that the Easter timeline is based on his political interests. “The media would like to see me do poorly in the election,” he said.
Challenged by a reporter, Trump, who has long used the press as a punching bag, said with exasperation: “Just so you understand – are you ready? – I think there are certain people that would like it not to open so quickly. I think there are certain people that would like it to do financially poorly because they think that would be very good as far as defeating me at the polls.”
The president added: “I don’t know if that’s so, but I do think it’s so that there are people in your profession that would like that to happen. I think it’s very clear that there are people in your profession that write fake news.”
Gesturing around the briefing room with his hands, he said: “You do. She does. There are people in your profession that write fake news. They would love to see me – for whatever reason, because we’ve done one hell of a job, nobody’s done the job that we’ve done – and it’s lucky that you have this group here right now for this problem because you wouldn’t even have a country left.”
Trump has long tied his political fortunes to the economy in general and stock market in particular, but the coronavirus outbreak has wiped out the stock gains of his presidency. On Wednesday he reiterated his call for restarting the economy at Easter, even though US infections have now topped 60,000 and scientists have warned of disastrous consequences for public health.
“It’s time,” he said. “People want to get back to work. I want to get our country back.”
But he sought to provide reassurance that he would heed the advice of public health officials. “I’m not going to do anything rash or hastily, I don’t do that.”
People who return to work could still take precautions, Trump claimed. “They’re not going to walk around hugging and kissing each other in the office when they come back. Even though they may feel like it.”
The deadline goal drew criticism from Democratic front runner Joe Biden, the president’s likely opponent in the November election. “Now he’s suggesting he wants to get the country opened – back open by Easter,” Biden told reporters at a virtual press conference. “Look, we all want to get back to normal as quickly as possible, but we have a lot to do to make that possible. We have to do it in a smart way – not on some arbitrary or symbolic timeline.”
The former vice president, speaking via video link from his basement, added: “It would be a catastrophic thing to do for our people and for our economy if we sent people back to work just as we were beginning to see the impact of social distancing take hold only to unleash a second spike in infections.”
Biden’s Democratic primary with Senator Bernie Sanders has been paralysed by the crisis, denying both men political oxygen, and the long term political implications remain unpredictable. Opinion polls suggest a majority of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the crisis, despite his early downplaying of the threat.
At Wednesday’s briefing, Trump also urged Congress to pass a historic $2tn stimulus bill negotiated by his administration and Republican and Democratic leaders in the Senate. “I will sign it immediately,” he said, adding that it would mark a “great day for the American worker and American families”.
The bill, delayed by bitter partisan battles, includes funding to send $1,200 cheques to many Americans, $500bn to help distressed companies, including $25bn for airlines, and $367bn in loans to sustain small businesses.
Related: US Senate leaders reach deal with White House on $2tn coronavirus package
Steven Mnuchin, the treasury secretary, thanked Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell minority leader Chuck Schumer for their efforts. “We couldn’t be more pleased with the unprecedented response from the Senate to protect American workers and American businesses,” he told reporters.
“Our expectation is this bill passes tonight and gets to the House tomorrow. And they pass it. We need to get this money into the American economy and American workers.”
Meanwhile Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned that the coronavirus could be seasonal and cyclical. “I know we’ll be successful in putting this down now,” he said. “But we really need to be prepared for another cycle.”
Trump also offered some bizarre digressions, boasting about his efforts to make Nato allies pay more, touting his “big, beautiful wall” and defending the package’s $25m funding for the John F Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington.
“This was a request from the Democrats because of the fact that they have a facility that’s essentially closed up,” he said. “If I wanted to go there tonight to look at Romeo and Juliet, I’d love to go see Romero and Juliet...”
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true infection rates be known the mortality rate would be very low not as low as flu maybe but who knows with scare mongering wankers running around calling the end of the world its hard to tell as they want to just bombard others with distorted figures similar to the climate change argumemt, yes the climates being impacted by us, but no the world won't end, do we need to do something about it yes. Is this virus killing the old and weak and sometimes the young and vulnerable tragically, yes, but is it the end of the world, no its an epidemic that needs to be managed with as much compassion for life as possible but also against economic damage and the current response is economically reckless.There are far better ways of achieving a result than following the path of a bunch of dumb communists who built an economy on the back of cheap labor (where as our wonderful country was built on slave/free labor) and stealing others countries intellectual property, as they lack the creative intelligence to invent things themselves.
Point of contention.
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Cuomo said today that it is already leveling off in New York.
Hospital visits have dropped two days in a row.
Hospitalizations were doubling every two days as of Sunday, but by Monday the trend showed hospitalizations were doubling every 3.4 days, and by Tuesday the rate was 4.7 days, Cuomo said.
“Now that is almost too good to be true... This is a very good sign and a positive sign, again not 100% sure it holds, or it’s accurate but the arrows are headed in the right direction,” Cuomo told a daily news conference.
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Mike Pence – Doctors are testing HCQ all over the country, we will know soon…
Let's hope we start seeing marked success with Hydroxychloroquine by the end of the weekend.
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Seal off Manhattan and put all affected and criminals there.
Build a wall around Manhattan!
'Escape from New York' with Kurt Russel !.
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Even if i should perish from the Corona, i must say i am glad to have been with all of you here since 2003.
Wish you all the best in this crisis, wherever you are in the world.
We will SKOL in Valhalla , I'll be at the table with Otto Skorzeny, Leon de Grelle, Rafael Boban & Attila the Hun !.
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The cowards have won. It's over.
This country will be shut down until summer. The snowflakes have won.
All the testosterone taking, MMA fighting, gun owning, shadow boxing tough guys have been fucked in the ass.
The cowards have won.
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Typo dude. Gyms only just closed ;)
My gym shut on the 23rd March.
One of the gyms I use is still open. Although, they shouldn't be. I am waiting to see if the shelter in place orders will be enforced and they will be fined and/or jailed. In the mean time, I stopped going to the gym.
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Typo dude. Gyms only just closed ;)
My gym shut on the 23rd March.
I am not a dude. Let me rephrase this..... we have been told that gyms will be closed for at least 6 months.
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Point of contention.
Slaves did not build this country. Slaves picked some cotton. Nice libtard talking point though.
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Slaves did not build this country. Slaves picked some cotton. Nice libtard talking point though.
X2. The vast majority of the wealth and power created in this country happened after we went from an agrarian society to an industrialized one. You look at all those old pictures of factories and mines, all poor, white Europeans in them.
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Palumbo saying the virus was manmade now :o
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Palumbo saying the virus was manmade now :o
it was God that made it, and people still worship him...
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it was God that made it, and people still worship him...
God or Palumbo? :-)
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The cowards have won. It's over.
This country will be shut down until summer. The snowflakes have won.
All the testosterone taking, MMA fighting, gun owning, shadow boxing tough guys have been fucked in the ass.
The cowards have won.
Viruses don’t care if you lift weights or own guns retard
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Palumbo saying the virus was manmade now :o
Dumbo is just trying to stay relevant which he never was.
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Viruses don’t care if you lift weights or own guns retard
I like Tommy, but I think his chances of running for president are over with the Getbig voters.
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I like Tommy, but I think his chances of running for president are over with the Getbig voters.
:D You just wait! I shall retool my campaign and come back strong for the big win. All I need to do is promise free Primabolan and I'll have the getbig voters back on my side.
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Dumbo is just trying to stay relevant which he never was.
Anything for the clicks.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/imperial-college-scientist-who-predicted-500k-coronavirus-deaths-in-uk-revises-to-20k-or-less
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didn't 90% of you all prayed for something like this to happen. you guys wanted half of the world population gone, now that this happens, waaaaa, you guys are crying, especially with a name like "pray for war" lol..... I will say this, we all seemed to have forgotten the muslims now, lol hell, 3-5 years ago, 100% of this thread was all about killing arabs/mussies/middle east because they are about to "destroy western civilizaton" lol, in time we will all forget about this. 1 year ago, it was all about the latino/mexican eradication because all of them are ms13 and illegals destroying merica, now, its chink's eradication. I feel like this is all just a TREND/PHASE!
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though there is one CONSTANT, we still want blacks gone ;D ;D
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My 3 weeks of lockdown start tomorrow.
Not allowed to walk in the street. Can only be at shop for 1 hour and have 1 hour drive time, 30 mins each way and must shop alone. Shopping receipts must be kept as proof.
Emergency services are still open and can drive to bank and get fuel as well.
Other than than that, no movement allowed, no walking of dogs and no walking outside own property.
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though there is one CONSTANT, we still want blacks gone ;D ;D
Africa will suffer the worst due to their high tech, medical services and communication
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My 3 weeks of lockdown start tomorrow.
Not allowed to walk in the street. Can only be at shop for 1 hour and have 1 hour drive time, 30 mins each way and must shop alone. Shopping receipts must be kept as proof.
Emergency services are still open and can drive to bank and get fuel as well.
Other than than that, no movement allowed, no walking of dogs and no walking outside own property.
Where you at?
No walking of dogs seems a bit harsh
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didn't 90% of you all prayed for something like this to happen. you guys wanted half of the world population gone, now that this happens, waaaaa, you guys are crying, especially with a name like "pray for war" lol..... I will say this, we all seemed to have forgotten the muslims now, lol hell, 3-5 years ago, 100% of this thread was all about killing arabs/mussies/middle east because they are about to "destroy western civilizaton" lol, in time we will all forget about this. 1 year ago, it was all about the latino/mexican eradication because all of them are ms13 and illegals destroying merica, now, its chink's eradication. I feel like this is all just a TREND/PHASE!
People's dynamics change when faced with a global treat as opposed to one which is generational, national, racial and/or ethnic, etc.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/imperial-college-scientist-who-predicted-500k-coronavirus-deaths-in-uk-revises-to-20k-or-less
Fake news. Coronavirus is killing more per day than the flu and the numbers are growing exponentially (that means they are multiplying).
The world has shut down. Death is coming.
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People's dynamics change when faced with a global treat as opposed to one which is generational, national, racial and/or ethnic, etc.
every threat was a "global arguement". all Muslims are terrorist and are destroying and bombing US, UK, Asia etc, refugee Somalians are getting accepted every where to kill and rape women globally, Every blacks are going to shoot and murder every police officer. Mexicans are all MS13 and want to kill and decapitate the US and globally, chinks are trying to take over, and they allied with russia. koreans are going to nuke the US and the world. according to media propaganda. You got to admit, at one time, some form of news did talk about all those topics i mentioned lol
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Fake news. Coronavirus is killing more per day than the flu and the numbers are growing exponentially (that means they are multiplying).
The world has shut down. Death is coming.
Fake news said this was a fake flu ;D ;D
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Fake news said this was a fake flu ;D ;D
Yes fake news is always reporting fake information. The doctor originally predicted 500k deaths and now he may have over estimated by 400%? He fed into the panic. Either he was misquoted or he’s over reactionary.
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Africa will suffer the worst due to their high tech, medical services and communication
Perhaps affected Europeans should be relocated to south of Sahara, Mama Afrika could help them !.
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Slaves did not build this country. Slaves picked some cotton. Nice libtard talking point though.
Nice lack of basic US History.
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Where you at?
No walking of dogs seems a bit harsh
South Africa.
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every threat was a "global arguement". all Muslims are terrorist and are destroying and bombing US, UK, Asia etc, refugee Somalians are getting accepted every where to kill and rape women globally, Every blacks are going to shoot and murder every police officer. Mexicans are all MS13 and want to kill and decapitate the US and globally, chinks are trying to take over, and they allied with russia. koreans are going to nuke the US and the world. according to media propaganda. You got to admit, at one time, some form of news did talk about all those topics i mentioned lol
The media's idea of what is a global situation and what isn't, differs from mine. To me it means that it poses a threat to everyone and excluding no one, regardless of whether they are Muslim, Somalian, African American, Latino, Asian, Russian, Korean. Rapist are not limited by any of the aforementioned people. Anyone can be a rapists, even women.
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Fake news. Coronavirus is killing more per day than the flu and the numbers are growing exponentially (that means they are multiplying).
The world has shut down. Death is coming.
O RLY?
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the root cause of why you are quarentined in your moms basement, and some of us can't get to actual jobs
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-failed-nsc-pandemic-000023392.html
Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
By Dan Diamond and Nahal Toosi
PoliticoMarch 25, 2020, 8:00 PM EDT
The Trump administration, state officials and even individual hospital workers are now racing against each other to get the necessary masks, gloves and other safety equipment to fight coronavirus — a scramble that hospitals and doctors say has come too late and left them at risk. But according to a previously unrevealed White House playbook, the government should’ve begun a federal-wide effort to procure that personal protective equipment at least two months ago.
“Is there sufficient personal protective equipment for healthcare workers who are providing medical care?” the playbook instructs its readers, as one early decision that officials should address when facing a potential pandemic. “If YES: What are the triggers to signal exhaustion of supplies? Are additional supplies available? If NO: Should the Strategic National Stockpile release PPE to states?”
The strategies are among hundreds of tactics and key policy decisions laid out in a 69-page National Security Council playbook on fighting pandemics, which POLITICO is detailing for the first time. Other recommendations include that the government move swiftly to fully detect potential outbreaks, secure supplemental funding and consider invoking the Defense Production Act — all steps in which the Trump administration lagged behind the timeline laid out in the playbook.
“Each section of this playbook includes specific questions that should be asked and decisions that should be made at multiple levels” within the national security apparatus, the playbook urges, repeatedly advising officials to question the numbers on viral spread, ensure appropriate diagnostic capacity and check on the U.S. stockpile of emergency resources.
The playbook also stresses the significant responsibility facing the White House to contain risks of potential pandemics, a stark contrast with the Trump administration’s delays in deploying an all-of-government response and President Donald Trump's recent signals that he might roll back public health recommendations.
“The U.S. government will use all powers at its disposal to prevent, slow or mitigate the spread of an emerging infectious disease threat,” according to the playbook’s built-in “assumptions” about fighting future threats. “The American public will look to the U.S. government for action when multi-state or other significant events occur.”
The guide further calls for a “unified message” on the federal response, in order to best manage the American public's questions and concerns. “Early coordination of risk communications through a single federal spokesperson is critical,” the playbook urges. However, the U.S. response to coronavirus has featured a rotating cast of spokespeople and conflicting messages; Trump already is discussing loosening government recommendations on coronavirus in order to “open” the economy by Easter, despite the objections of public health advisers.
The NSC devised the guide — officially called the Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents, but known colloquially as “the pandemic playbook” — across 2016. The project was driven by career civil servants as well as political appointees, aware that global leaders had initially fumbled their response to the 2014-2015 spread of Ebola and wanting to be sure that the next response to an epidemic was better handled.
The Trump administration was briefed on the playbook’s existence in 2017, said four former officials, but two cautioned that it never went through a full, National Security Council-led interagency process to be approved as Trump administration strategy. Tom Bossert, who was then Trump’s homeland security adviser, expressed enthusiasm about its potential as part of the administration’s broader strategy to fight pandemics, two former officials said.
Bossert declined to comment on any particular document, but told POLITICO that “I engaged actively with my outgoing counterpart and took seriously their transition materials and recommendations on pandemic preparedness.”
The playbook was designed “so there wasn’t piecemeal thinking when trying to fight the next public health battle,” said one former official who contributed to the playbook, warning that “the fog of war” can lead to gaps in strategies.
“These are recommended discussions to be having on all levels, to ensure that there’s a structure to make decisions in real-time,” said a second former official.
An NSC official confirmed the existence of the playbook but dismissed its value. “We are aware of the document, although it’s quite dated and has been superseded by strategic and operational biodefense policies published since,” the official said. “The plan we are executing now is a better fit, more detailed, and applies the relevant lessons learned from the playbook and the most recent Ebola epidemic in the [Democratic Republic of the Congo] to COVID-19.”
A health department spokesperson also said that the NSC playbook was not part of the current coronavirus strategy. “The HHS COVID-19 response was informed by more recent plans such as the foundation of the National Biodefense Strategy (2018), Biological Incident Annex (2017),and panCAP (2018) among other key plans provided by the CDC, White House Task Force, FEMA, and other key federal departments and agencies,” the spokesperson said.
Trump has claimed that his administration could not have foreseen the coronavirus pandemic, which has spread to all 50 states and more than 180 nations, sickening more than 460,000 people around the world. “Nobody ever expected a thing like this,” Trump said in a Fox News interview on Tuesday.
But Trump’s aides were told to expect a potential pandemic, ranging from a tabletop exercise that the outgoing Obama administration prepared for the president’s incoming aides to a “Crimson Contagion” scenario that health officials undertook just last year and modeled out potential risks of a global infectious disease threat. Trump’s deputies also have said that their coronavirus response relies on a federal playbook, specifically referring to a strategy laid out by the Centers for Disease Control.
It is not clear if the administration’s failure to follow the NSC playbook was the result of an oversight or a deliberate decision to follow a different course.
The document rested with NSC officials who dealt with medical preparedness and biodefense in the global health security directorate, which the Trump administration disbanded in 2018, four former officials said. The document was originally overseen by Beth Cameron, a former civil servant who led the directorate before leaving the White House in March 2017. Cameron confirmed to POLITICO that the directorate created a playbook for NSC staff intended to help officials confront a range of potential biological threats.
But under the Trump administration, “it just sat as a document that people worked on that was thrown onto a shelf,” said one former U.S. official, who served in both the Obama and Trump administrations. “It’s hard to tell how much senior leaders at agencies were even aware that this existed” or thought it was just another layer of unnecessary bureaucracy.
The NSC playbook would have been especially useful in helping to drive the administration’s response to coronavirus, given that it was intended to guide urgent decisions and coordinate the all-of-government approach that Trump so far has struggled to muster, said people familiar with the document.
The color-coded playbook contains different sections based on the relative risk — green for normal operations, yellow for elevated threat, orange for credible threat and red once a public health emergency is declared — and details the potential roles of dozens of departments and agencies, from key players like the Health and Human Services department to the Department of Transportation and the FBI. It also includes sample documents intended to be used at coordinating meetings.
“While each emerging infectious disease threat will present itself in a unique way, a consistent, capabilities-based approach to addressing these threats will allow for faster decisions with more targeted expert subject matter input from federal departments and agencies,” the playbook reads.
The playbook lays out different strategies for policymakers based on the severity of the crisis and shares lessons gleaned from past outbreaks. For instance, one section is devoted to addressing 34 “key questions” and 21 “key decisions” as soon as there is a “credible threat” — which in the case of coronavirus would have been early-to-mid January, as it raged in China and as the first U.S. case was detected on Jan. 20 — and calls on officials to move quickly.
“We recommend early budget and financial analysis of various response scenarios and an early decision to request supplemental funding from Congress, if needed,” the guide urges. But the Trump administration waited more than a month to ask for emergency funding after the timeline laid out in the playbook.
The playbook also repeatedly urges officials to question official numbers about the viral spread. “What is our level of confidence on the case detection rate?” reads one question. “Is diagnostic capacity keeping up?” But across January and much of February, Trump administration officials publicly insisted that their diagnostic efforts were sufficient to detect coronavirus. Officials now privately concede that the administration’s well-documented testing problems have contributed to the outbreak’s silent spread across the United States, and health experts say that diagnostic capacity is only now in late March catching up to the need.
In a subsequent section, the playbook details steps to take if there’s evidence that the virus is spreading among humans, which the World Health Organization concluded by Jan. 22, or the U.S. government declared a public health emergency, which HHS Secretary Alex Azar did on Jan. 31.
Under that timeline, the federal government by late January should have been taking a lead role in “coordination of workforce protection activities including… [personal protective equipment] determination, procurement and deployment.” Those efforts are only now getting underway, health workers and doctors say.
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the root cause of why you are quarentined in your moms basement, and some of us can't get to actual jobs
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-failed-nsc-pandemic-000023392.html
Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
By Dan Diamond and Nahal Toosi
PoliticoMarch 25, 2020, 8:00 PM EDT
The Trump administration, state officials and even individual hospital workers are now racing against each other to get the necessary masks, gloves and other safety equipment to fight coronavirus — a scramble that hospitals and doctors say has come too late and left them at risk. But according to a previously unrevealed White House playbook, the government should’ve begun a federal-wide effort to procure that personal protective equipment at least two months ago.
“Is there sufficient personal protective equipment for healthcare workers who are providing medical care?” the playbook instructs its readers, as one early decision that officials should address when facing a potential pandemic. “If YES: What are the triggers to signal exhaustion of supplies? Are additional supplies available? If NO: Should the Strategic National Stockpile release PPE to states?”
The strategies are among hundreds of tactics and key policy decisions laid out in a 69-page National Security Council playbook on fighting pandemics, which POLITICO is detailing for the first time. Other recommendations include that the government move swiftly to fully detect potential outbreaks, secure supplemental funding and consider invoking the Defense Production Act — all steps in which the Trump administration lagged behind the timeline laid out in the playbook.
“Each section of this playbook includes specific questions that should be asked and decisions that should be made at multiple levels” within the national security apparatus, the playbook urges, repeatedly advising officials to question the numbers on viral spread, ensure appropriate diagnostic capacity and check on the U.S. stockpile of emergency resources.
The playbook also stresses the significant responsibility facing the White House to contain risks of potential pandemics, a stark contrast with the Trump administration’s delays in deploying an all-of-government response and President Donald Trump's recent signals that he might roll back public health recommendations.
“The U.S. government will use all powers at its disposal to prevent, slow or mitigate the spread of an emerging infectious disease threat,” according to the playbook’s built-in “assumptions” about fighting future threats. “The American public will look to the U.S. government for action when multi-state or other significant events occur.”
The guide further calls for a “unified message” on the federal response, in order to best manage the American public's questions and concerns. “Early coordination of risk communications through a single federal spokesperson is critical,” the playbook urges. However, the U.S. response to coronavirus has featured a rotating cast of spokespeople and conflicting messages; Trump already is discussing loosening government recommendations on coronavirus in order to “open” the economy by Easter, despite the objections of public health advisers.
The NSC devised the guide — officially called the Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents, but known colloquially as “the pandemic playbook” — across 2016. The project was driven by career civil servants as well as political appointees, aware that global leaders had initially fumbled their response to the 2014-2015 spread of Ebola and wanting to be sure that the next response to an epidemic was better handled.
The Trump administration was briefed on the playbook’s existence in 2017, said four former officials, but two cautioned that it never went through a full, National Security Council-led interagency process to be approved as Trump administration strategy. Tom Bossert, who was then Trump’s homeland security adviser, expressed enthusiasm about its potential as part of the administration’s broader strategy to fight pandemics, two former officials said.
Bossert declined to comment on any particular document, but told POLITICO that “I engaged actively with my outgoing counterpart and took seriously their transition materials and recommendations on pandemic preparedness.”
The playbook was designed “so there wasn’t piecemeal thinking when trying to fight the next public health battle,” said one former official who contributed to the playbook, warning that “the fog of war” can lead to gaps in strategies.
“These are recommended discussions to be having on all levels, to ensure that there’s a structure to make decisions in real-time,” said a second former official.
An NSC official confirmed the existence of the playbook but dismissed its value. “We are aware of the document, although it’s quite dated and has been superseded by strategic and operational biodefense policies published since,” the official said. “The plan we are executing now is a better fit, more detailed, and applies the relevant lessons learned from the playbook and the most recent Ebola epidemic in the [Democratic Republic of the Congo] to COVID-19.”
A health department spokesperson also said that the NSC playbook was not part of the current coronavirus strategy. “The HHS COVID-19 response was informed by more recent plans such as the foundation of the National Biodefense Strategy (2018), Biological Incident Annex (2017),and panCAP (2018) among other key plans provided by the CDC, White House Task Force, FEMA, and other key federal departments and agencies,” the spokesperson said.
Trump has claimed that his administration could not have foreseen the coronavirus pandemic, which has spread to all 50 states and more than 180 nations, sickening more than 460,000 people around the world. “Nobody ever expected a thing like this,” Trump said in a Fox News interview on Tuesday.
But Trump’s aides were told to expect a potential pandemic, ranging from a tabletop exercise that the outgoing Obama administration prepared for the president’s incoming aides to a “Crimson Contagion” scenario that health officials undertook just last year and modeled out potential risks of a global infectious disease threat. Trump’s deputies also have said that their coronavirus response relies on a federal playbook, specifically referring to a strategy laid out by the Centers for Disease Control.
It is not clear if the administration’s failure to follow the NSC playbook was the result of an oversight or a deliberate decision to follow a different course.
The document rested with NSC officials who dealt with medical preparedness and biodefense in the global health security directorate, which the Trump administration disbanded in 2018, four former officials said. The document was originally overseen by Beth Cameron, a former civil servant who led the directorate before leaving the White House in March 2017. Cameron confirmed to POLITICO that the directorate created a playbook for NSC staff intended to help officials confront a range of potential biological threats.
But under the Trump administration, “it just sat as a document that people worked on that was thrown onto a shelf,” said one former U.S. official, who served in both the Obama and Trump administrations. “It’s hard to tell how much senior leaders at agencies were even aware that this existed” or thought it was just another layer of unnecessary bureaucracy.
The NSC playbook would have been especially useful in helping to drive the administration’s response to coronavirus, given that it was intended to guide urgent decisions and coordinate the all-of-government approach that Trump so far has struggled to muster, said people familiar with the document.
The color-coded playbook contains different sections based on the relative risk — green for normal operations, yellow for elevated threat, orange for credible threat and red once a public health emergency is declared — and details the potential roles of dozens of departments and agencies, from key players like the Health and Human Services department to the Department of Transportation and the FBI. It also includes sample documents intended to be used at coordinating meetings.
“While each emerging infectious disease threat will present itself in a unique way, a consistent, capabilities-based approach to addressing these threats will allow for faster decisions with more targeted expert subject matter input from federal departments and agencies,” the playbook reads.
The playbook lays out different strategies for policymakers based on the severity of the crisis and shares lessons gleaned from past outbreaks. For instance, one section is devoted to addressing 34 “key questions” and 21 “key decisions” as soon as there is a “credible threat” — which in the case of coronavirus would have been early-to-mid January, as it raged in China and as the first U.S. case was detected on Jan. 20 — and calls on officials to move quickly.
“We recommend early budget and financial analysis of various response scenarios and an early decision to request supplemental funding from Congress, if needed,” the guide urges. But the Trump administration waited more than a month to ask for emergency funding after the timeline laid out in the playbook.
The playbook also repeatedly urges officials to question official numbers about the viral spread. “What is our level of confidence on the case detection rate?” reads one question. “Is diagnostic capacity keeping up?” But across January and much of February, Trump administration officials publicly insisted that their diagnostic efforts were sufficient to detect coronavirus. Officials now privately concede that the administration’s well-documented testing problems have contributed to the outbreak’s silent spread across the United States, and health experts say that diagnostic capacity is only now in late March catching up to the need.
In a subsequent section, the playbook details steps to take if there’s evidence that the virus is spreading among humans, which the World Health Organization concluded by Jan. 22, or the U.S. government declared a public health emergency, which HHS Secretary Alex Azar did on Jan. 31.
Under that timeline, the federal government by late January should have been taking a lead role in “coordination of workforce protection activities including… [personal protective equipment] determination, procurement and deployment.” Those efforts are only now getting underway, health workers and doctors say.
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Dearth this is all wrong and mean.
Trump is the President. Show some respect.
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FACT: The annual figures for the FLU are ESTIMATES
Stop using flu numbers to compare.
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FACT: The annual figures for the FLU are ESTIMATES
Stop using flu numbers to compare.
So we can’t trust the numbers we’ve been given for years but the numbers they’re giving us now should be taken as fact.... okay.
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‘People Are Dying’: Battling Coronavirus Inside a N.Y.C. Hospital
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So we can’t trust the numbers we’ve been given for years but the numbers they’re giving us now should be taken as fact.... okay.
The numbers they are giving us now are underestimated. The current numbers reflect virus tests done days ago on people who have already gone through the incubation phase and started showing symptoms requiring them to seek medical attention. That's why in China when they went into very strict lockdown at only 1000 infected, the numbers still reached 80,000. So many people were already infected but didn't realize it yet because they were in the asymptomatic incubation phase. Then some infected Chinese went overseas and now there's 532,150 officially infected worldwide.
One model is showing that right now in the USA there are around 20,000,000 infected assuming no social distancing. Most of them are very recently infected but still in the asymptomatic incubation phase (exponential function). A lot of the rest have mild symptoms that don't require hospitalization or testing yet. I don't know if I believe these numbers but there you go.
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The numbers they are giving us now are underestimated. The current numbers reflect virus tests done days ago on people who have already gone through the incubation phase and started showing symptoms requiring them to seek medical attention.
I'll put it another way. There are 85,594 confirmed cases in the USA.
They are made up of:
1. People who went through the 1 to 14 day asymptomatic incubation phase.
2. Started having symptoms that caused them to go see a doctor.
3. The doctor performed a virus test on them.
4. Some days later the test results are in, showing a positive result.
5. Positive result is reported to the media.
So there is up to a maybe 10-20 days or more time delay from first acquiring the virus until reporting a positive result to the media.
So that means that there were 85,594 first infected 10 to 20 or more days ago and the actual number as of today is exponentially bigger.
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Most Getbiggers live in their parent's basement or if they want to appear affluent, their attic. They don't go out except for ComicCon or the like and therefor have zero chance of getting anything.
Including a woman. ;D
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So there is up to a maybe 10-20 or more day time delay from first acquiring the virus until reporting a positive result to the media.
So that means that there were 85,594 first infected 10 to 20 or more days ago and the actual number as of today is exponentially bigger.
One artuarial i followed on twitter said his modelling was 500 to every 1 confirmed.
Based it in 3 weeks from infected to diagnosed during which they were infecting the community and in turn those infect more. He said his model was showing a 0.5% mortality at a time others were quoting 4%.
85,000 cases x 500 = 42,500,000 million infected
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USA now have more Corona-victims than China!
THE HORROR!
WHEN WILL IT STOP!
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USA now have more Corona-victims than China!
THE HORROR!
WHEN WILL IT STOP!
Everything back to normal after Easter.
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Something fishy!!!!! Please read it carefully
WELL PLAYED CHINA....
SCENE 1 : The curtain opens: China becomes ill, enters a "crisis" and paralyzes its trade. The curtain closes.
SCENE II. The curtain opens: The Chinese currency is devalued. They do not do anything. The curtain closes.
SCENE III. The curtain opens:: Due to the lack of trade of companies from Europe and the USA that are based in China, their shares fall 40% of their value.
SCENE IV. The curtain opens:: The world is ill, China buys 30% of the shares of companies in Europe and the US at a very low price. The curtain closes.
SCENE V. The curtain opens: China has controlled the disease and owns companies in Europe and the US. And he decides that these companies stay in China and earn $ 20,000Billions. The curtain closes. How is the play called?
SCENE VI: Checkmate!
Amazing but true
Two videos have passed between yesterday and today that convinced me of something I suspected, but had no basis. It was just my speculation. Now I am convinced that the coronavirus was purposely propagated by the Chinese themselves.
At first they were too prepared. Three weeks after the start of the roll, 14 days and a 12,000-bed hospitals were already under construction. And they really built them in two weeks. Awesome.
Yesterday they announced that they had stopped the epidemic. They appear in videos celebrating, they announce that they even have a vaccine. How could they create it so quickly without having all the genetic information? Well if you are the owner of the formula it is not difficult at all.
And today I just saw a video that explains how Den Xiao Ping gave the west a half stick. Due to the coronavirus, the actions of Western companies in China fell dramatically. China I just hope, when they went down enough they bought them. Now the companies,
Created by the USA and Europe in China with all the technology put in by these exchanges and their capital they passed into the hands of China, which is now rising with all that technological potential and will be able to set prices at will to sell everything they need to the West. How are you?
None of this could have happened by chance. China who cared that a few old men died? Fewer old-age pensions to pay, but the loot has been huge. And right now the West is financially defeated, in crisis and stunned by the disease. And without knowing what to do.
Masterfully diabolic. It had to be the communists. |
Adding to this, they are now the single largest owners of US treasury with 1.18 trillion holding surpassing Japan.
An instrument that has seen the most rally
One ☝ prospective & Analogy....
How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19? Because they are staunch ally of China. Not a single case reported from these two countries.
On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit.
How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus?
China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas. Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan? Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now. America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump. Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts. The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc. Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. ..China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas. As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released. Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak. Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus. Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA.Now here is an interesting conspiracy theory if you want:
Impact of coronavirus on stock exchanges worldwide, within 1 month:
🇺🇸 -26%
🇬🇧 -26%
🇨🇦 -25%
🇧🇷 -27%
🇷🇺 -20%
🇦🇪 -19%
🇿🇦 -16%
🇦🇺 -24%
🇮🇳 -14%
🇸🇬 -17%
🇭🇰 -12%
🇰🇷 - 17%
Now, look at this:
🇨🇳 (China) + 0,3%
China, creator of the pandemic, has miraculously "recovered", has almost no more cases of coronavirus. The world is now beginning to feel the effects and panic about the disease. Who recovered first ?? China itself! It seems to be that this virus was a move by the Chinese government in response to the loss of the trade war with the United States. The goal: to throw the world into recession !!!
Is the scenario not clear? They are already growing! China bought almost everything it devalued on the stock exchanges around the world ... with that the Chinese became owners of the global companies that are in China and without the money leaving China.
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Something fishy!!!!! Please read it carefully
WELL PLAYED CHINA....
SCENE 1 : The curtain opens: China becomes ill, enters a "crisis" and paralyzes its trade. The curtain closes.
SCENE II. The curtain opens: The Chinese currency is devalued. They do not do anything. The curtain closes.
SCENE III. The curtain opens:: Due to the lack of trade of companies from Europe and the USA that are based in China, their shares fall 40% of their value.
SCENE IV. The curtain opens:: The world is ill, China buys 30% of the shares of companies in Europe and the US at a very low price. The curtain closes.
SCENE V. The curtain opens: China has controlled the disease and owns companies in Europe and the US. And he decides that these companies stay in China and earn $ 20,000Billions. The curtain closes. How is the play called?
SCENE VI: Checkmate!
Amazing but true
Two videos have passed between yesterday and today that convinced me of something I suspected, but had no basis. It was just my speculation. Now I am convinced that the coronavirus was purposely propagated by the Chinese themselves.
At first they were too prepared. Three weeks after the start of the roll, 14 days and a 12,000-bed hospitals were already under construction. And they really built them in two weeks. Awesome.
Yesterday they announced that they had stopped the epidemic. They appear in videos celebrating, they announce that they even have a vaccine. How could they create it so quickly without having all the genetic information? Well if you are the owner of the formula it is not difficult at all.
And today I just saw a video that explains how Den Xiao Ping gave the west a half stick. Due to the coronavirus, the actions of Western companies in China fell dramatically. China I just hope, when they went down enough they bought them. Now the companies,
Created by the USA and Europe in China with all the technology put in by these exchanges and their capital they passed into the hands of China, which is now rising with all that technological potential and will be able to set prices at will to sell everything they need to the West. How are you?
None of this could have happened by chance. China who cared that a few old men died? Fewer old-age pensions to pay, but the loot has been huge. And right now the West is financially defeated, in crisis and stunned by the disease. And without knowing what to do.
Masterfully diabolic. It had to be the communists. |
Adding to this, they are now the single largest owners of US treasury with 1.18 trillion holding surpassing Japan.
An instrument that has seen the most rally
One ☝ prospective & Analogy....
How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19? Because they are staunch ally of China. Not a single case reported from these two countries.
On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit.
How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus?
China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas. Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan? Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now. America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump. Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts. The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc. Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. ..China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas. As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released. Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak. Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus. Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA.Now here is an interesting conspiracy theory if you want:
Impact of coronavirus on stock exchanges worldwide, within 1 month:
🇺🇸 -26%
🇬🇧 -26%
🇨🇦 -25%
🇧🇷 -27%
🇷🇺 -20%
🇦🇪 -19%
🇿🇦 -16%
🇦🇺 -24%
🇮🇳 -14%
🇸🇬 -17%
🇭🇰 -12%
🇰🇷 - 17%
Now, look at this:
🇨🇳 (China) + 0,3%
China, creator of the pandemic, has miraculously "recovered", has almost no more cases of coronavirus. The world is now beginning to feel the effects and panic about the disease. Who recovered first ?? China itself! It seems to be that this virus was a move by the Chinese government in response to the loss of the trade war with the United States. The goal: to throw the world into recession !!!
Is the scenario not clear? They are already growing! China bought almost everything it devalued on the stock exchanges around the world ... with that the Chinese became owners of the global companies that are in China and without the money leaving China.
Either way, I think there will be a severe economic backlash on China.
I doubt the current American administration are going to be naive about this and will be monitoring any large-scale purchases of shares etc.
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British prime minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for the Coronavirus.
That's comparable to Trump getting infected.
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Most Getbiggers live in their parent's basement or if they want to appear affluent, their attic. They don't go out except for ComicCon or the like and therefor have zero chance of getting anything.
Including a woman. ;D
hey watch it, you're hurting my feelings. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Flu kills ~300-600k globally in a span of 3 months. Your statistic divides it over 12 months. So it is 3000-6000 deaths per day during flu season WITH vaccines.
Before this started astute people said it would be like the flu and it seems to be about right with the chinese virus having peaked in many places and seems to be approaching its peak in the UK and USA. Expect politicians and the media to be very quiet about the flu death tally this year.
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Flu kills ~300-600k globally in a span of 3 months. Your statistic divides it over 12 months. So it is 3000-6000 deaths per day during flu season WITH vaccines.
Before this started astute people said it would be like the flu and it seems to be about right with the chinese virus having peaked in many places and seems to be approaching its peak in the UK and USA. Expect politicians and the media to be very quiet about the flu death tally this year.
Source.
I think you need to learn that different parts of the world have summers and winters at different times.Flu is seasonal mainly because it likes cold,dry climates.Let me guess, you are American and think USA is the world.
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Most Getbiggers live in their parent's basement or if they want to appear affluent, their attic. They don't go out except for ComicCon or the like and therefor have zero chance of getting anything.
Including a woman. ;D
The Scott!
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Has anyone tried mega-dosing Anadrol?
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Has anyone tried mega-dosing Anadrol?
Muntzer...
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Source.
I think you need to learn that different parts of the world have summers and winters at different times.Flu is seasonal mainly because it likes cold,dry climates.Let me guess, you are American and think USA is the world.
Cold, dry climates? Washington state where COVID-19 first hit the U.S. may be cool, but it certainly isn't dry. Same is true for New York, which is where cases grew at the fastest rate. Nowhere in Germany is it dry, just cold. Maybe you meant the virus likes cold, wet climates.
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Cold, dry climates? Washington state where COVID-19 first hit the U.S. may be cool, but it certainly isn't dry. Same is true for New York, which is where cases grew at the fastest rate. Nowhere in Germany is it dry, just cold. Maybe you meant the virus likes cold, wet climates.
I never referenced it to Covid 19. I referenced it to traditional flu.And flu flourishes best in cold and dry climates.
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/
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Almost a 1000 dead in Italy in 24 hours, roughly the same as died worldwide today from regular flu.
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I never referenced it to Covid 19. I referenced it to traditional flu.And flu flourishes best in cold and dry climates.
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/
Okay. But, why wouldn't the same hold true for the COVID-19 which is also a virus? And, it seems the flu likes more than one type of climate.
Study: Flu likes weather cold and dry or humid and rainy
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/03/study-flu-likes-weather-cold-and-dry-or-humid-and-rainy
Any climate that drives people indoors is likely to be partly responsible for an increase in people becoming sick with the flu or a cold.
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Okay. But, why wouldn't the same hold true for the COVID-19 which is also a virus? And, it seems the flu likes more than one type of climate.
Study: Flu likes weather cold and dry or humid and rainy
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/03/study-flu-likes-weather-cold-and-dry-or-humid-and-rainy
Any climate that drives people indoors is likely to be partly responsible for an increase in people becoming sick with the flu or a cold.
Yup, it also spreads well in humid and rainy but I said likes, aka optimum.
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Almost a 1000 dead in Italy in 24 hours, roughly the same as died worldwide today from regular flu.
Hopefully these people were islime or ChiCom or Isimites. Italy is not the USA. They are not yet a Turd World nation, but neither are they the equal of the USA. I am sorry for them but I have been so since they, like so many other European countries, fell for the insidious lie of the E.U.
E.U.?
FTN.
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Yup, it also spreads well in humid and rainy but I said likes, aka optimum.
If you are going to be this specific, posting your source should back you up. Otherwise, if it is just your opinion then tell us why your opinion counts above that of other people.
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If you are going to be this specific, posting your source should back you up. Otherwise, if it is just your opinion then tell us why your opinion counts above that of other people.
I responded politely once because you couldn't read and thought I was talking about Covid19.Not being dragged offtopic and demanded for sources because of lack of comprehension.Google is your friend now.
In Spain they are turning off respirators for people over 65, sedating them but are letting them die to make way for younger and healthier patients.Scary times.Who would have imagined this 3 months ago.
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USA is entering the dreadful phase just now. The next two months will be devastating thanks to the White House confused response and politics.
Talk to us about flu then.
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Hopefully these people were islime or ChiCom or Isimites. Italy is not the USA. They are not yet a Turd World nation, but neither are they the equal of the USA. I am sorry for them but I have been so since they, like so many other European countries, fell for the insidious lie of the E.U.
E.U.?
FTN.
Northern Italians in general have far better lives and financial security than the majority of Americans. Also far far better general healthcare.
Good luck to the US people with what's coming especially to the newly unemployed and those who through no fault of their own are without healthcare insurance.
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Northern Italians in general have far better lives and financial security than the majority of Americans. Also far far better general healthcare.
Good luck to the US people with what's coming especially to the newly unemployed and those who through no fault of their own are without healthcare insurance.
I saw some folks that turned out to be Northern Italians. The men and women were all well over 6 feet with blonde or light brown hair and blue eyes. I asked them about that and they said, WWII and the Germans...Not kidding here, they said that. They were very proud of Italy but not ashamed of their lineage at all.
Talk about good looking people. Wow.
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I responded politely once because you couldn't read and thought I was talking about Covid19.Not being dragged offtopic and demanded for sources because of lack of comprehension.Google is your friend now.
In Spain they are turning off respirators for people over 65, sedating them but are letting them die to make way for younger and healthier patients.Scary times.Who would have imagined this 3 months ago.
I appreciate you being polite.
Okay so I followed your advice and Googled the statement you made about Spain turning off old folks' respirators. Unfortunately, this was to no avail. However, it does seem reasonable if by healthier you mean not healthy enough to go without a respirator and other medical services. Otherwise, why would you need to make way for these younger and healthier patients?
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Hopefully these people were islime or ChiCom or Isimites. Italy is not the USA. They are not yet a Turd World nation, but neither are they the equal of the USA. I am sorry for them but I have been so since they, like so many other European countries, fell for the insidious lie of the E.U.
E.U.?
FTN.
The public did not have any choice about joining the EU.
They had a much higher standard of living using the Lira currency. Prices basically doubled when the country switched to the Euro.
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Northern Italians in general have far better lives and financial security than the majority of Americans. Also far far better general healthcare.
Good luck to the US people with what's coming especially to the newly unemployed and those who through no fault of their own are without healthcare insurance.
Defeatist attitudes have never been our strong suit. We neutered the Nazis and put a man on the moon.
One of my associates is a “foreigner”, he stated “whatever is meant to be will happen”, I kindly reminded him that is the reason his people have gotten ran over time and time again.
The European lifestyle is superior during peace times. You can have your socialist medicine while sipping wine on a cafe, citing your moral superiority.
The shit hits then the fan, and America gets to work. It’s always been that way. You don’t think every city park, sports arena, venue etc won’t be turned into triage? You don’t think our manufacturing can whip up ventilators and masks? The medical requirements are basic. No one is needed heart surgery and chemo over this. A respirator and fluids, if you happen to be in the unlucky top of the pyramid that even needs medical assistance.
Don’t worry, America will save the day. Again.
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USA is entering the dreadful phase just now. The next two months will be devastating thanks to the White House confused response and politics.
Talk to us about flu then.
It's so crazy that people on here actually support the things he says about this crisis. This dude is going to kills ten of thousands.
Kudos to Cuomo by the way. He's handing this pretty damn well.
Pretty sure this crisis will end Trumps chances of being reelected. Not a chance he's winning again.
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Defeatist attitudes have never been our strong suit. We neutered the Nazis and put a man on the moon.
One of my associates is a “foreigner”, he stated “whatever is meant to be will happen”, I kindly reminded him that is the reason his people have gotten ran over time and time again.
The European lifestyle is superior during peace times. You can have your socialist medicine while sipping wine on a cafe, citing your moral superiority.
The shit hits then the fan, and America gets to work. It’s always been that way. You don’t think every city park, sports arena, venue etc won’t be turned into triage? You don’t think our manufacturing can whip up ventilators and masks? The medical requirements are basic. No one is needed heart surgery and chemo over this. A respirator and fluids, if you happen to be in the unlucky top of the pyramid that even needs medical assistance.
Don’t worry, America will save the day. Again.
Europe has been in countless wars over thousands of years, calling them 'defeatist' is absurd.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of history would know this.
Having a condescending attitude towards Europe or the US does not help anything. Western countries and people are allies.
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It's so crazy that people on here actually support the things he says about this crisis. This dude is going to kills ten of thousands.
Kudos to Cuomo by the way. He's handing this pretty damn well.
Pretty sure this crisis will end Trumps chances of being reelected. Not a chance he's winning again.
How is Trump's handling of the crisis confused? The U.S. has some of the best results of anywhere in the world. We have 330 million people stretched out over a continent. We have a low death rate compared to the rest of the world and it is actually much lower when you factor in that most people infected will not even ever know they had it.
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It's so crazy that people on here actually support the things he says about this crisis. This dude is going to kills ten of thousands.
Kudos to Cuomo by the way. He's handing this pretty damn well.
Pretty sure this crisis will end Trumps chances of being reelected. Not a chance he's winning again.
Gallup just released a survey that 60% of Americans approve of Trumps handling of the crisis and his approval rating reached it's highest level of his presidency.
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It's so crazy that people on here actually support the things he says about this crisis. This dude is going to kills ten of thousands.
Kudos to Cuomo by the way. He's handing this pretty damn well.
Pretty sure this crisis will end Trumps chances of being reelected. Not a chance he's winning again.
XFACTOR wrong and changing his whole tone on subjects?some things never change.
You are going to be an expert soon buddy. Thanks for all of your hard work and information gathering!
I'm extremely worried and in panic mode as I post this.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=661765.0;attach=787818;image)
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XFACTOR wrong and changing his whole tone on subjects?some things never change.
You have way too much time on your hands. We need more celebrity talk too by the way. Thanks for keeping us all in the know loser. Now go do your job boy
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You have way too much time on your hands. We need more celebrity talk too by the way. Thanks for keeping us all in the know loser. Now go do your job boy
XFACTOR trying to deflect, divert and change the subject when he realises he has no answer?some things never change.
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Don’t worry, America will save the day. Again.
Americans haven't exactly got a good track record with natural disasters...
Also what will Americans be saving the West from this time though? Their own stupidity?
I'm all for the dregs of society RIPing, but why should healthcare professionals and their families have to pay the price. The West has fucked up and the US is leading the way in fuck ups.
Imagine the lawsuits at the end of this. There won't be any doctors left because they'll be chilling on their yachts with a pair of dime piece Norwegian trannies.
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XFACTOR trying to deflect, divert and change the subject when he realises he has no answer?some things never change.
Do you not have any friends or family you can spend time with? You can try and come at me and spend all the time you’d like doing so. The fact is I win. Simply by having friends and family. There is no way you could have that with the amount of time you invest here. It’s nuts man!
Anyway see you in a few weeks. Now keep doing your job loser.
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Do you not have any friends or family you can spend time with? You can try and come at me and spend all the time you’d like doing so. The fact is I win. Simply by having friends and family. There is no way you could have that with the amount of time you invest here. It’s nuts man!
Anyway see you in a few weeks. Now keep doing your job loser.
Yawn.Im going to stop replying to you now before the inevitable pictures of watches and the like come out.Nice job being wrong about the biggest event of our collective lifetime.And your language is a real tell on how much you are seething about it, might want to work on that. ;D :-*
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Americans haven't exactly got a good track record with natural disasters...
Also what will Americans be saving the West from this time though? Their own stupidity?
I'm all for the dregs of society RIPing, but why should healthcare professionals and their families have to pay the price. The West has fucked up and the US is leading the way in fuck ups.
Imagine the lawsuits at the end of this. There won't be any doctors left because they'll be chilling on their yachts with a pair of dime piece Norwegian trannies.
I am not able to put this video up but here is Gordon Sinclair's "The Americans".
American has been there for the world, especially so the fucking worthless turd world. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your Nation, especially when it's America.
I am an American. I think highly of other Nations but not nations. The EU is a farce designed to spread the shit-butter of islime over the white bread of England and Europe. And Germany is now toast.
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Europe has been in countless wars over thousands of years, calling them 'defeatist' is absurd.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of history would know this.
Having a condescending attitude towards Europe or the US does not help anything. Western countries and people are allies.
LOL
This is classic. The US is less than 250 years old. Prior to that Native America’s won thousands of wars on those lands. Their history would say they’ve won more than they have lost.
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Americans haven't exactly got a good track record with natural disasters...
Also what will Americans be saving the West from this time though? Their own stupidity?
I'm all for the dregs of society RIPing, but why should healthcare professionals and their families have to pay the price. The West has fucked up and the US is leading the way in fuck ups.
Imagine the lawsuits at the end of this. There won't be any doctors left because they'll be chilling on their yachts with a pair of dime piece Norwegian trannies.
Flex what country or nation would you suggest has a good track record with natural disasters that you can compare to the US and how we’ve handled floods, earthquakes, tornados and hurricanes?
There is no question we could have handled these situation better and history will soon decide if we have completely botched this Covid19, but who would you suggest is the standard that the world should emulate when it comes to these devastating disasters?
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LOL
This is classic. The US is less than 250 years old. Prior to that Native America’s won thousands of wars on those lands. Their history would say they’ve won more than they have lost.
Red Indians obviously do not represent the United States.
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Red Indians obviously do not represent the United States.
Wrong, sure they lost their most recent war with settlers of the New World but prior to that they were victorious in many wars.
Some would argue that they've defeated the US government today with their many casinos spread through out the nation.
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Europe has been in countless wars over thousands of years, calling them 'defeatist' is absurd.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of history would know this.
Having a condescending attitude towards Europe or the US does not help anything. Western countries and people are allies.
Europe as a whole has fought many wars? Yeah... no. Yes some of the European countries with the land mass of Arizona have fought amongst each other.
Yes, America will have a lot of infections. We have a massive population, and lack the balls to execute and weld doors shut like commie China. New York will be hit hard. Massive population center. I think Long Island alone has a higher population than Los Angeles, or close.
I love and respect Europe. Western societies like ours must stick together. Having said that, America is king dick.
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Michigan Nurse says it's complete chaos and USA will be just like Italy
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-GX-D1DKJ_/
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Ouch
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China a!! good folks!
https://mobile.twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1243473247536058368
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China a!! good folks!
https://mobile.twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1243473247536058368
Army of Fear, those protests started from one police department fighting another, fueled by their anger of the treatment they received during their lockdown.
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Army of Fear, those protests started from one police department fighting another, fueled by their anger of the treatment they received during their lockdown.
Oh, that's ok then, if police are fighting police then things must all be fine!!
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Oh, that's ok then, if police are fighting police then things must all be fine!!
Yes. These are savage people. I honestly feel better knowing they are back to normal.
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Oh, that's ok then, if police are fighting police then things must all be fine!!
Those people arent practicing social distancing. Very odd behavior considering all the death they've experienced due to covid19.
Because of their blatant disrespect of the virus they deserve death.
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Defeatist attitudes have never been our strong suit. We neutered the Nazis and put a man on the moon.
One of my associates is a “foreigner”, he stated “whatever is meant to be will happen”, I kindly reminded him that is the reason his people have gotten ran over time and time again.
The European lifestyle is superior during peace times. You can have your socialist medicine while sipping wine on a cafe, citing your moral superiority.
The shit hits then the fan, and America gets to work. It’s always been that way. You don’t think every city park, sports arena, venue etc won’t be turned into triage? You don’t think our manufacturing can whip up ventilators and masks? The medical requirements are basic. No one is needed heart surgery and chemo over this. A respirator and fluids, if you happen to be in the unlucky top of the pyramid that even needs medical assistance.
Don’t worry, America will save the day. Again.
Great post! So spot on!
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Defeatist attitudes have never been our strong suit. We neutered the Nazis and put a man on the moon.
One of my associates is a “foreigner”, he stated “whatever is meant to be will happen”, I kindly reminded him that is the reason his people have gotten ran over time and time again.
The European lifestyle is superior during peace times. You can have your socialist medicine while sipping wine on a cafe, citing your moral superiority.
The shit hits then the fan, and America gets to work. It’s always been that way. You don’t think every city park, sports arena, venue etc won’t be turned into triage? You don’t think our manufacturing can whip up ventilators and masks? The medical requirements are basic. No one is needed heart surgery and chemo over this. A respirator and fluids, if you happen to be in the unlucky top of the pyramid that even needs medical assistance.
Don’t worry, America will save the day. Again.
Great post.
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visualizeperfection clearly skipped history classes.
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Defeatist attitudes have never been our strong suit. We neutered the Nazis and put a man on the moon.
One of my associates is a “foreigner”, he stated “whatever is meant to be will happen”, I kindly reminded him that is the reason his people have gotten ran over time and time again.
You mean Russians destroyed the Nazi Germany since Americans entered the war that officially started in 1939 and ended in 1945, in 1944.
The reason...land grab..not dislike of the Nazis. Not to mention the fact that German almost became an official language in America, while it was building its legal structure hundreds of years ago.
Second, Nazi German Von Braun landed a man on the moon, not a redneck, like you.
Check you facts before uttering a syllable.
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Gallup just released a survey that 60% of Americans approve of Trumps handling of the crisis and his approval rating reached it's highest level of his presidency.
That's because 60% of Murica is a fat idiot, not much unlike you.
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Flex what country or nation would you suggest has a good track record with natural disasters that you can compare to the US and how we’ve handled floods, earthquakes, tornados and hurricanes?
There is no question we could have handled these situation better and history will soon decide if we have completely botched this Covid19, but who would you suggest is the standard that the world should emulate when it comes to these devastating disasters?
I wasn't comparing nations handling of natural disasters, just painting the picture of what's to come.
There is no standard to emulate with covid19, you just try your best to prepare for what's ahead. The US was giving a helping hand in is. They basically have a crystal ball and can see weeks ahead at what's to come, just by looking at other Western countries. Somehow they have managed to still be one of the worst prepared countries for it.
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That's because 60% of Murica is a fat idiot, not much unlike you.
I'm wealthier and in better shape then you. I guarantee it.
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I'm wealthier and in better shape then you. I guarantee it.
yeah, you're wealthier in the number of white pubic hairs.
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USA is entering the dreadful phase just now. The next two months will be devastating thanks to the White House confused response and politics.
Talk to us about flu then.
Oh, how 'perfect' life in Serbia is !.
OBW, have you lost any war in the last 3 weeks ;D
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yeah, you're wealthier in the number of white pubic hairs.
I'm 37. Do you want to compare net worth's? Maybe post a pic so I can see how in shape you are?
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Oh, how 'perfect' life in Serbia is !.
OBW, have you lost any war in the last 3 weeks ;D
Boo whoo, now we are going to cry since we lost a historical argument...
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yeah, you're wealthier in the number of white pubic hairs.
You've seen his pubes? No homo!
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I'm 37. Do you want to compare net worth's? Maybe post a pic so I can see how in shape you are?
you're so funny
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You've seen his pubes? No homo!
no, but he appears so educated and attractive online that I wish I have.
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no, but he appears so educated and attractive online that I wish I have.
Went on a full academic ride to the #7 public university in the US and the number 34 overall school nationwide.
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You mean Russians destroyed the Nazi Germany since Americans entered the war that officially started in 1939 and ended in 1945, in 1944.
The reason...land grab..not dislike of the Nazis. Not to mention the fact that German almost became an official language in America, while it was building its legal structure hundreds of years ago.
Second, Nazi German Von Braun landed a man on the moon, not a redneck, like you.
Check you facts before uttering a syllable.
Listen bud, I don’t care what your third world text books told you. They lied.
Like I said, breath easy friend, America has your back.
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what program?
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Listen bud, I don’t care what your third world text books told you. They lied.
Like I said, breath easy friend, America has your back.
my god, you're telling me that you're sticking to your historical facts?
this is too easy brah, excuse yourself
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what program?
BS in Food and Resource Economics with a minor in business administration.
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Went on a full academic ride to the #7 public university in the US and the number 34 overall school nationwide.
now, in order for me to not be mean, you be smart
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Listen bud, I don’t care what your third world text books told you. They lied.
Like I said, breath easy friend, America has your back.
He is from Serbia & hates NATO/America !.
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now, in order for me to not be mean, you be smart
I is I is
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I wasn't comparing nations handling of natural disasters, just painting the picture of what's to come.
There is no standard to emulate with covid19, you just try your best to prepare for what's ahead. The US was giving a helping hand in is. They basically have a crystal ball and can see weeks ahead at what's to come, just by looking at other Western countries. Somehow they have managed to still be one of the worst prepared countries for it.
Gotcha.
It appears the US has already screwed itself with its handling of the economy. Or by not shutting its borders sooner.
I truly believe the disease and the overwhelming of the hospitals was never the "scary" part for Americans, as Visualizeperfection said we have been good at shifting production and converting facilities, its the loss of jobs and the economic shut down.
But as has been said, we will soon find out.
God bless brother and stay safe, you have good perspective and opinions.
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Boo whoo, now we are going to cry since we lost a historical argument...
O, dear Macedonia is gone NATO too ;D
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epic truth bomb for the dumb GOP voters
(https://www.truthorfiction.com/ezoimgfmt/dn.truthorfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/17103734/trump_timeline_of_covid19_statements_meme.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:368x587/rscb7/ng:webp/ngcb7)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/
The qualities we most need in a president during this crisis are calmness, wisdom, and reassurance; a command of the facts and the ability to communicate them well; and the capacity to think about the medium and long term while carefully weighing competing options and conflicting needs. We need a leader who can persuade the public to act in ways that are difficult but necessary, who can focus like a laser beam on a problem for a sustained period of time, and who will listen to—and, when necessary, defer to—experts who know far more than he does. We need a president who can draw the nation together rather than drive it apart, who excels at the intricate work of governing, and who works well with elected officials at every level. We need a chief executive whose judgment is not just sound, but exceptional.
There are some 325 million people in America, and it’s hard to think of more than a handful who are more lacking in these qualities than Donald Trump
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He is from Serbia & hates NATO/America !.
you're wrong. I love America. NATO is an obsolete, pretend-war organisation. And, I am telling you the truth.
I know there is a large mass of people in Serbia that is completely idiotic. That is why we've been decimated.
But in order to grow, be it as a person, or as a country, you have to look yourself in the mirror. Fix your mistakes before it's too late.
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my god, you're telling me that you're sticking to your historical facts?
this is too easy brah, excuse yourself
Yes. My history was written in English. Not your bogus squiggly line gibberish. I Honestly feel bad for you, look into immigrating over.
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Yes. My history was written in English. Not your bogus squiggly line gibberish. I Honestly feel bad for you, look into immigrating over.
how old are you really?....like really?
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I know there is a large mass of people in Serbia that is completely idiotic. That is why we've been decimated.
BUMP !. ;D
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BUMP !. ;D
oh, I see, you don't get a pic...oh well
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guys, where'd you go....we can go back to penis and vagina talk, I promise
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These dingbats........
who are paid $Millions to do jobs practically any Youtuber can do....
care so much.
"Hoda" carries the world's Corona burdens on her shoulders:
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I is I is
yeaH, i'M HIGH AT THE moment, but can still beat you
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Condomic Kike....yet another brilliant name came to my mind while high
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These dingbats........
who are paid $Millions to do jobs practically any Youtuber can do....
care so much.
"Hoda" carries the world's Corona burdens on her shoulders:
Cuckodile tears. FTB.
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Yes. My history was written in English. Not your bogus squiggly line gibberish. I Honestly feel bad for you, look into immigrating over.
you're proving yourself stupid again.
Serbians write in both cyrilic and latin. The alphabet is, I repeat latin also, like yours....or is it, mountain-dwelling degenerate
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I see,
the idiotic repbs attack and retreat at the same time, like ants.
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Gotcha.
It appears the US has already screwed itself with its handling of the economy. Or by not shutting its borders sooner.
I truly believe the disease and the overwhelming of the hospitals was never the "scary" part for Americans, as Visualizeperfection said we have been good at shifting production and converting facilities, its the loss of jobs and the economic shut down.
But as has been said, we will soon find out.
God bless brother and stay safe, you have good perspective and opinions.
I'd argue the best policy would be to try do both. Protect the economy and protect the health of the general population. What you don't want to do is send out every patriot with the message "it's just flu" and with their head buried in the sand.
You'd want people to go out with a healthy fear of it so they take sensible precautions. Each infected person spreading it to one less person buys you weeks, spreading it 1.5 less people buys you months. It's the difference between knowing 1 person who dies from the virus vs 4.
The current attitude to it all only benefits those at the very top.
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Old man Joe The Barber.. who sees maybe 10 people a day is forced to close to "protect us"
Amazon warehouses that have 100K+ of workers go to in the same buildings = ..... "no.. thats just fine.. nothing to see here folks"
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it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
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Old man Joe The Barber.. who sees maybe 10 people a day is forced to close to "protect us"
Amazon warehouses that have 100K+ of workers go to in the same buildings = ..... "no.. thats just fine.. nothing to see here folks"
LOL I’ve been saying this all along.
Amazon, Walmart, Target, Kroger, Costco, Lowe’s, etc... have gigantic warehouses with 100’s to 1000’s or staff. I read that aCostco warehouse in Michigan had an employee test positive but they’re saying he didn’t contaminate anything.....
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LOL I’ve been saying this all along.
Amazon, Walmart, Target, Kroger, Costco, Lowe’s, etc... have gigantic warehouses with 100’s to 1000’s or staff. I read that aCostco warehouse in Michigan had an employee test positive but they’re saying he didn’t contaminate anything.....
LOL.. exactly WTF and why isn't anyone calling this out?..
ALSO..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bonanza-rich-real-estate-investors-122407900.html
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USA
total cases:103,692 - world record!
new cases:+18,257 - world record!
deaths:1,692 - top 6!
new deaths +397 - top 3!
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USA
total cases:103,692 - world record!
new cases:+18,257 - world record!
deaths:1,692 - top 6!
new deaths +397 - top 3!
ACHINA? what kind of fucking idiot believes anything coming out of the chinese communist party mouthpieces.
Also 1700 deaths is absolutely nothing. not even a rounding error in the grand scheme of things.
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The guy that promised to clean up Washington is now bailing out the whole country along with his ass in order to win the next elections.
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epic truth bomb for the dumb GOP voters
(https://www.truthorfiction.com/ezoimgfmt/dn.truthorfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/17103734/trump_timeline_of_covid19_statements_meme.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:368x587/rscb7/ng:webp/ngcb7)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/
The qualities we most need in a president during this crisis are calmness, wisdom, and reassurance; a command of the facts and the ability to communicate them well; and the capacity to think about the medium and long term while carefully weighing competing options and conflicting needs. We need a leader who can persuade the public to act in ways that are difficult but necessary, who can focus like a laser beam on a problem for a sustained period of time, and who will listen to—and, when necessary, defer to—experts who know far more than he does. We need a president who can draw the nation together rather than drive it apart, who excels at the intricate work of governing, and who works well with elected officials at every level. We need a chief executive whose judgment is not just sound, but exceptional.
There are some 325 million people in America, and it’s hard to think of more than a handful who are more lacking in these qualities than Donald Trump
I can easily think of a few:
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Diane Feinstein
Maxine Waters
Chuck Schumer
Joe Biden
Bernie Sanders
Jerrold Nadler
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I can easily think of a few:
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Nancy Pelosi
Diane Feinstein
Maxine Waters
Chuck Schumer
Joe Biden
Bernie Sanders
Jerrold Nadler
you've been brainwashed, corona has been sent to cleanse you bitch
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Bergen County alone now has more coronavirus cases than 38 U.S. states
Bergen County has been the epicenter of New Jersey’s coronavirus outbreak, and now the 233 square mile area has exceeded 38 states in the number of cases of the virus it has reported so far.
There have been 1,505 positive cases of the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19 in Bergen County to date, according to the state health department. For context, the entire state of Colorado has 1,430 cases, according to data compiled by the Washington Post.
Bergen County Executive Jim Tedesco told NJ Advance Media that his jurisdiction’s high rate of cases is due in part to more testing becoming available. A large number of Bergen County residents also travel for work to New York City, which has the most cases in the United States.
“Stay home. Stay home. Stay home,” Tedesco said in a phone interview. “I can’t say that enough.”
At an estimated 932,000 residents, the county is the most populated one in New Jersey. Living in such a densely populated area makes social distancing - or staying at least 6 feet away from others - a challenge.
Bergen County accounts for about 17% of New Jersey’s 8,825 coronavirus cases. At least 108 New Jersey residents have died after contracting the virus and at least 20 of those deaths were Bergen County residents, according to the most recent data put out by the state and county.
“We have almost a quarter of the deaths in the New Jersey,” Tedesco said. “It’s unfortunate that the families of people in Bergen County are feeling the magnitude of the virus.”
The whole state of New Jersey, meanwhile, ranks third in the United States for the number of COVID-19 cases. Only Louisiana and New York have more.
To quell the spread of the virus Gov. Phil Murphy ordered non-essential businesses to close and required all New Jersey residents to stay at home unless it’s for an essential purpose, like grocery shopping.
Tedesco is also closing all Bergen County parks Saturday morning. He said neighboring counties have done the same, which is driving residents from other areas to Bergen County’s parks instead.
Social distancing and stay-at-home orders are necessary to flatten the curve, or lower the number of patients infected with the virus at one time, officials have said. If too many residents get the virus at once, health experts say hospitals would be overwhelmed.
Still, Tedesco said, there is hope amidst all the staggering statistics.
“There are many, many people that are coming out of the virus and surviving,” he said. “That’s the great news, but the challenge is we’ve got to stop the spread. So the good news is that people can survive and a large majority in Bergen County are surviving.
“But - but! - we need people to change their behaviors.”
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/bergen-county-alone-now-has-more-coronavirus-cases-than-38-us-states.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR37reSib9ixVHshjSGyEepvZwF1yZlPBNquMdbsV6KRJrd2TEiU8iKBuec
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Just a few weeks ago Getbiggers where making fun of the situation, asked "where are the bodies?" in the warning thread from The Italian Lifter.
Now, the bodies in New York are piling up, they are running out of space in the morgues.
So where are the bodies? Right at your front door.
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Just a few weeks ago Getbiggers where making fun of the situation, asked "where are the bodies?" in the warning thread from The Italian Lifter.
Now, the bodies in New York are piling up, they are running out of space in the morgues.
So where are the bodies? Right at your front door.
Not at my front door. We have 330 million people and a thousand or so old sick people have died. More people have died from the flu in the same amount of time.
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Not at my front door. We have 330 million people and a thousand or so old sick people have died. More people have died from the flu in the same amount of time.
Correct.
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Still downplaying the seriousness of it all.
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epic truth bomb for the dumb GOP voters
(https://www.truthorfiction.com/ezoimgfmt/dn.truthorfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/17103734/trump_timeline_of_covid19_statements_meme.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:368x587/rscb7/ng:webp/ngcb7)
Nice..Quotes like this doesn't mean anything, if they come from the mouth of some getbig-asshat or anonymous moron. But from the mouth of the president of the most powerful nation on this planet? Sorry to say, but you are doomed ;D
Why don't you guys try to change that orange ape to the real orangutan? No one will see the difference, but everybody will realise the improvement in his statements ;D ;D
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Still downplaying the seriousness of it all.
Are you downplaying the fact that the flu has killed more people this season than the Coronavirus?
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Just a few weeks ago Getbiggers where making fun of the situation, asked "where are the bodies?" in the warning thread from The Italian Lifter.
Now, the bodies in New York are piling up, they are running out of space in the morgues.
So where are the bodies? Right at your front door.
Let’s revisit this in 2-3 weeks when everyone is back doing their thing and see how well it held up. The R0 on COVID is substantially higher than the flu so we can accurately assume there are far more cases then have been reported thus the mortality rate is significantly lower than it’s been reported. Fear is a great way to control the masses, just look at the mass house arrest the world is under and for what? To shelter from a virus that 80%+ of cases are mild at best. I’ll admit, weeks ago I was falling into the paranoia but the more I read, the less concerned I am.
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Bergen County alone now has more coronavirus cases than 38 U.S. states
Bergen County has been the epicenter of New Jersey’s coronavirus outbreak, and now the 233 square mile area has exceeded 38 states in the number of cases of the virus it has reported so far.
There have been 1,505 positive cases of the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19 in Bergen County to date, according to the state health department. For context, the entire state of Colorado has 1,430 cases, according to data compiled by the Washington Post.
Bergen County Executive Jim Tedesco told NJ Advance Media that his jurisdiction’s high rate of cases is due in part to more testing becoming available. A large number of Bergen County residents also travel for work to New York City, which has the most cases in the United States.
“Stay home. Stay home. Stay home,” Tedesco said in a phone interview. “I can’t say that enough.”
At an estimated 932,000 residents, the county is the most populated one in New Jersey. Living in such a densely populated area makes social distancing - or staying at least 6 feet away from others - a challenge.
Bergen County accounts for about 17% of New Jersey’s 8,825 coronavirus cases. At least 108 New Jersey residents have died after contracting the virus and at least 20 of those deaths were Bergen County residents, according to the most recent data put out by the state and county.
“We have almost a quarter of the deaths in the New Jersey,” Tedesco said. “It’s unfortunate that the families of people in Bergen County are feeling the magnitude of the virus.”
The whole state of New Jersey, meanwhile, ranks third in the United States for the number of COVID-19 cases. Only Louisiana and New York have more.
To quell the spread of the virus Gov. Phil Murphy ordered non-essential businesses to close and required all New Jersey residents to stay at home unless it’s for an essential purpose, like grocery shopping.
Tedesco is also closing all Bergen County parks Saturday morning. He said neighboring counties have done the same, which is driving residents from other areas to Bergen County’s parks instead.
Social distancing and stay-at-home orders are necessary to flatten the curve, or lower the number of patients infected with the virus at one time, officials have said. If too many residents get the virus at once, health experts say hospitals would be overwhelmed.
Still, Tedesco said, there is hope amidst all the staggering statistics.
“There are many, many people that are coming out of the virus and surviving,” he said. “That’s the great news, but the challenge is we’ve got to stop the spread. So the good news is that people can survive and a large majority in Bergen County are surviving.
“But - but! - we need people to change their behaviors.”
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/bergen-county-alone-now-has-more-coronavirus-cases-than-38-us-states.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR37reSib9ixVHshjSGyEepvZwF1yZlPBNquMdbsV6KRJrd2TEiU8iKBuec
I work in Bergen county,still working ,I live in Passaic county
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I work in Bergen county,still working ,I live in Passaic county
Are the bodies piling up on your doorstep? ???
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Are the bodies piling up on your doorstep? ???
I only met one person a dr who just finished quarantine,she got a cold but tested positive
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Just a few weeks ago Getbiggers where making fun of the situation, asked "where are the bodies?" in the warning thread from The Italian Lifter.
Now, the bodies in New York are piling up, they are running out of space in the morgues.
So where are the bodies? Right at your front door.
A few weeks ago? I ask several times a week, where are the bodies?
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A few weeks ago? I ask several times a week, where are the bodies?
Go look on your front doorstep, they're out there.
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Let’s revisit this in 2-3 weeks when everyone is back doing their thing and see how well it held up. The R0 on COVID is substantially higher than the flu so we can accurately assume there are far more cases then have been reported thus the mortality rate is significantly lower than it’s been reported. Fear is a great way to control the masses, just look at the mass house arrest the world is under and for what? To shelter from a virus that 80%+ of cases are mild at best. I’ll admit, weeks ago I was falling into the paranoia but the more I read, the less concerned I am.
Same boat. I was never worried about the virus itself, hoping I don’t get it, but I’m a young man and I keep myself healthy, not even any gear for almost 5 years.
I was really concerned about two weeks ago, dusted off the guns and mentally prepared myself for the worst case of social breakdown. People are not losing their shit yet. Hundreds of people out and about. Grocery stores have significantly caught back up.
I’m starting to think there could be some conspiracies afoot.
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Same boat. I was never worried about the virus itself, hoping I don’t get it, but I’m a young man and I keep myself healthy, not even any gear for almost 5 years.
I was really concerned about two weeks ago, dusted off the guns and mentally prepared myself for the worst case of social breakdown. People are not losing their shit yet. Hundreds of people out and about. Grocery stores have significantly caught back up.
I’m starting to think there could be some conspiracies afoot.
I don't get the conspiracy theory, many politicians ignored it very much like Trump did, then they panicked, it really seems extremely contagious, once emergency units start to overload, politians tend to panic.
It seems like a universal concept, first ignore, then shrug and say it is not a serious threat then city lockdowns, no sir, there is some serious shit about this virus!
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epic truth bomb for the dumb GOP voters
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/
The qualities we most need in a president during this crisis are calmness, wisdom, and reassurance; a command of the facts and the ability to communicate them well; and the capacity to think about the medium and long term while carefully weighing competing options and conflicting needs. We need a leader who can persuade the public to act in ways that are difficult but necessary, who can focus like a laser beam on a problem for a sustained period of time, and who will listen to—and, when necessary, defer to—experts who know far more than he does. We need a president who can draw the nation together rather than drive it apart, who excels at the intricate work of governing, and who works well with elected officials at every level. We need a chief executive whose judgment is not just sound, but exceptional.
There are some 325 million people in America, and it’s hard to think of more than a handful who are more lacking in these qualities than Donald Trump
Big deal buttercup, all leaders did the same thing - the WHO itself said :
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I don't get the conspiracy theory, many politicians ignored it very much like Trump did, then they panicked, it really seems extremely contagious, once emergency units start to overload, politians tend to panic.
It seems like a universal concept, first ignore, then shrug and say it is not a serious threat then city lockdowns, no sir, there is some serious shit about this virus!
I think the big cheeses were playing it off to delay bombing the economy for as long as they could. I think the media is overhyping it to ensure people comply with stay at home orders.
To be honest I’m in Southern California and don’t even know someone who knows someone who is infected. Not downplaying the severity just speaking facts.
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Just a few weeks ago Getbiggers where making fun of the situation, asked "where are the bodies?" in the warning thread from The Italian Lifter.
Now, the bodies in New York are piling up, they are running out of space in the morgues.
So where are the bodies? Right at your front door.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Too funny. ;D
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A few weeks ago? I ask several times a week, where are the bodies?
Manhattan...… get ready
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Manhattan...… get ready
How do we get ready, what steps should we take?
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How do we get ready, what steps should we take?
You guys want bodies right? They are coming. Lots of them
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/coronavirus/2020/03/25/tent-for-overflow-capacity-for-city-morgue-goes-up-in-manhattan
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You guys want bodies right? They are coming. Lots of them
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/coronavirus/2020/03/25/tent-for-overflow-capacity-for-city-morgue-goes-up-in-manhattan
I don’t think anyone is asking for bodies. That would be a grotesque notion, what are we, abortion doctors?
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I don’t think anyone is asking for bodies. That would be a grotesque notion, what are we, abortion doctors?
Die babies die
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Die babies die
What a loser.
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What a loser.
Won
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Won
Have the drugs finally melted your mind to the point of an exclusive monosyllabic word vocabulary?
Quick, post up a 20 year old picture, before the gear melted your hair, and recs melted your face, and totally destroy me ::)
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Have the drugs finally melted your mind to the point of an exclusive monosyllabic word vocabulary?
Quick, post up a 20 year old picture, before the gear melted your hair, and recs melted your face, and totally destroy me ::)
Posted lots new. You have been defeated. Have a nap old guy. You make it so easy to watch you melt like a candle.
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https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/18339699.worcesters-gtech-told-not-produce-much-needed-ventilators-government-chief-executive-says/
CITY-BASED manufacture Gtech has been told by the government to not produce much-needed ventilators less than a week after getting the go-ahead, the company’s chief executive has said.
Nick Grey, chief executive of Gtech, said he had been advised by the government on Thursday (March 27) to not push forward with production of ventilators, despite answering a call for help to assist in producing more than 30,000 ventilators, less than two weeks ago.
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Go look on your front doorstep, they're out there.
Just got back from running errands, bodies everywhere!!! Walking, riding bikes, driving cars, shopping....it was insane!
Manhattan...… get ready
Meh, bunch of foreigners out there, no big loss.
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Posted lots new. You have been defeated. Have a nap old guy. You make it so easy to watch you melt like a candle.
Yes. You are right. Im melting over a drug addict degenerate 10 years my senior. Quick! Post a picture of your fake watches.
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Yes. You are right. Im melting over a drug addict degenerate 10 years my senior. Quick! Post a picture of your fake watches.
Was worried I was losing my touch thanks for confirming I haven’t. Stay safe little man.
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Was worried I was losing my touch thanks for confirming I haven’t. Stay safe little man.
You never had "touch", you have been getbig's punching bag since before my time here. I mean you started a thread to bash a likely gimmick that ended up making you look like a fool.
No one buys your bullshit here. You're nobody. Just a drug addict.
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You never had "touch", you have been getbig's punching bag since before my time here. I mean you started a thread to bash a likely gimmick that ended up making you look like a fool.
No one buys your bullshit here. You're nobody. Just a drug addict.
Too in your feelings bro. Very emotional lmao
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Just got back from running errands, bodies everywhere!!! Walking, riding bikes, driving cars, shopping....it was insane!
Of course there were (live) bodies everywhere....you live in Southern California. People won't stay home there for anything. Californians flout any directives and the law.
"Scores of “nonessential” California businesses have been ordered to shut their doors as the state works to curb the coronavirus pandemic, but some are flouting those orders and choosing to remain open."
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/03/23/some-nonessential-california-businesses-remain-open-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
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700 N.J. police officers have tested positive for coronavirus, State Police leader says
About 700 New Jersey police officers have tested positive for the coronavirus, officials said Saturday.
“There’s more than 700 police officers quarantined at home, and there’s about the same ... number that have tested positive from all 21 counties,” Col. Patrick Callahan, acting superintendent of the State Police, said at a press conference in Trenton.
He did not give more detailed numbers or name affected departments, and the State Police did not immediately respond to a request for more information.
But that amount is far higher than previously known. Newark, Jersey City, NJ Transit, the Port Authority, Fanwood, Hazlet and the State Police have all reported cases.
Two officers that were in “serious condition” are now stable, Callahan said. None have died.
Testing sites in Bergen and Holmdel were only testing symptomatic first responders Saturday, Gov. Phil Murphy previously said.
There are about 36,000 officers in the state, according to recent State Police data, and experts said the public should not be concerned about a looming officer shortage.
“If you have the right officers and you have the right supervisors ... we are good,” said Maria Haberfeld, a police science professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.
Crime has also dropped in the state, officials have said, which could help departments cope with any short-staffing, according to Jon Shane, a retired Newark police captain who teaches at John Jay.
“We don’t need as many police officers to respond if the work isn’t there," he said.
While smaller agencies would be more affected by sick officers, he said, even a steep decline in cops could be offset by help from neighboring departments, state troopers and “special officers,” which are sometimes retired cops at schools.
Police once stationed at casinos and other closed businesses could be moved, Shane said, and non-officers could cover some administrative tasks to free up more people for patrols.
National Guard troops were also recently approved to work in the state.
The state attorney general has raised the alarm, however, about a shortage of protective gear.
“We’re struggling, we are absolutely struggling with PPE across this state," Gurbir Grewal said Thursday. Some gear had to be wasted breaking up illegal gatherings, he said.
Cops responding to calls are now told which residences have coronavirus patients, although patient names are not shared. Some police are also limiting face-to-face contact, while others are purposely not enforcing some offenses.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/700-nj-police-officers-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-state-police-leader-says.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2m7e-xw08ZNP_Wo6I1tc7GScfUK9vGRdC5w4BmrEEarwAA1R2zeXp3qjY
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Of course there were (live) bodies everywhere....you live in Southern California. People won't stay home there for anything. Californians flout any directives and the law.
"Scores of “nonessential” California businesses have been ordered to shut their doors as the state works to curb the coronavirus pandemic, but some are flouting those orders and choosing to remain open."
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/03/23/some-nonessential-california-businesses-remain-open-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
Yes. You speak for all Californians.
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Yes. You speak for all Californians.
Are you a writer's technician? I don't speak for anyone. They speak for themselves. That's a given.
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Are you a writer's technician? I don't speak for anyone. They speak for themselves. That's a given.
It would not be difficult to “speak” for a great many Kommiefornians. Just say or type the following on a sporadic basis- “I’m all”, I’m like”, “Totally”, “What ever”, “Fer shurrrrre”. For those that are among the “elite”, just add directions to everything ala “The Californians”, and if you have access to a mirror so much the better.
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It would not be difficult to “speak” for a great many Kommiefornians. Just say or type the following on a sporadic basis- “I’m all”, I’m like”, “Totally”, “What ever”, “Fer shurrrrre”. For those that are among the “elite”, just add directions to everything ala “The Californians”, and if you have access to a mirror so much the better.
Right. Well, I did my time in California (12 years). It was a long and difficult incarceration, but I got through it relatively unscathed. :)
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Right. Well, I did my time in California (12 years). It was a long and difficult incarceration, but I got through it relatively unscathed. :)
;D
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French police turning a blind eye to immigrants ignoring lockdown.
What a surprise.
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French police turning a blind eye to immigrants ignoring lockdown.
What a surprise.
Your best option is for these lockdown violators to become infected with this deadly disease.
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French police turning a blind eye to immigrants ignoring lockdown.
What a surprise.
British police ignoring Mosques open for Friday prayers..
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My son-in-law told me that folks in Oregon are now temporarily able to pump their own gasoline. This will hopefully reduce exposure to COVID-19. It's advisable to wear protective gear like gloves in order to avoid direct contact on the pump handle.
The Office of the State Fire Marshal announced Saturday that Oregonians can start pumping their own gas due to the coronavirus outbreak.
“During this unprecedented time of state emergency, we need to ensure that critical supply lines for fuels and other basic services remain uninterrupted,” State Fire Marshal Jim Walker said.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/state-fire-marshal-says-oregonians-can-now-pump-their-own-gas/
We have also been advised to wear both masks and protective gloves whenever we go out in public. That's fine for people who have them, like us. Many don't though and they are unavailable due to the shortages. That's a bit of a catch 22.
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Photos of 10,000 urns being delivered to a funeral home in Wuhan by Chinese media Caixin.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/urn-deliveries-wuhan-china-coronavirus-death-toll (https://www.foxnews.com/world/urn-deliveries-wuhan-china-coronavirus-death-toll)
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Are you a writer's technician? I don't speak for anyone. They speak for themselves. That's a given.
No. I’m a Californian sitting at home, abiding by the rules.
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My son-in-law told me that folks in Oregon are now temporarily able to pump their own gasoline. This will hopefully reduce exposure to COVID-19. It's advisable to wear protective gear like gloves in order to avoid direct contact on the pump handle.
The Office of the State Fire Marshal announced Saturday that Oregonians can start pumping their own gas due to the coronavirus outbreak.
“During this unprecedented time of state emergency, we need to ensure that critical supply lines for fuels and other basic services remain uninterrupted,” State Fire Marshal Jim Walker said.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/state-fire-marshal-says-oregonians-can-now-pump-their-own-gas/
We have also been advised to wear both masks and protective gloves whenever we go out in public. That's fine for people who have them, like us. Many don't though and they are unavailable due to the shortages. That's a bit of a catch 22.
:'( :'( :'(
:'( :'( :'(
;D
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No. I’m a Californian sitting at home, abiding by the rules.
It is good to read this. I'm in Oregon and I am doing the same as you. It is at times pretty boring though.
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When the light fails I shall no longer fight that which is inevitable.
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Too in your feelings bro. Very emotional lmao
This isn’t how 40 year olds speak.
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You never had "touch", you have been getbig's punching bag since before my time here. I mean you started a thread to bash a likely gimmick that ended up making you look like a fool.
No one buys your bullshit here. You're nobody. Just a drug addict.
He’s been shit kicked around this board for years about the shitty apartment, lame old 3-Series BMW, and a wife that fucked his best friend and then told him the friend had a bigger cock than he did.
ENJOY !!!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=169072.0
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He’s been shit kicked around this board for years about the shitty apartment, lame old 3-Series BMW, and a wife that fucked his best friend and then told him the friend had a bigger cock than he did.
ENJOY !!!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=169072.0
LMAO! :D
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He’s been shit kicked around this board for years about the shitty apartment, lame old 3-Series BMW, and a wife that fucked his best friend and then told him the friend had a bigger cock than he did.
ENJOY !!!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=169072.0
Fuckin brutal. I actually had a shred of respect for xfaker, now I actually wonder what kind of delusions he has.
I’m now considering selling my Rolex and BMW.
Both of which are more high end than he had.
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Love seeing my fans putting in work on Saturday nights over me. Yes!!! Who won again?
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Love seeing my fans putting in work on Saturday nights over me. Yes!!! Who won again?
Your best man, apparently.
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Love seeing my fans putting in work on Saturday nights over me. Yes!!! Who won again?
The guy busting his nut in your “wife” ?
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Your best man, apparently.
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All my fans are joining. Awesome guys! Seriously humbled by your attention on this lovely Saturday night. Going to tuck my kids in and enjoy a bottle of stags leap with wifey. Again I thank all of you for your attention on Saturday night.
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All my fans are joining. Awesome guys! Seriously humbled by your attention on this lovely Saturday night. Going to tuck my kids in and enjoy a bottle of stags leap with wifey. Again I thank all of you for your attention on Saturday night.
"my kids"
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"my kids"
Legit LOL.
:D
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All my fans are joining. Awesome guys! Seriously humbled by your attention on this lovely Saturday night. Going to tuck my kids in and enjoy a bottle of stags leap with wifey. Again I thank all of you for your attention on Saturday night.
Have one for me, cowboy.
I can see you sharing a drink with your wife, bragging to her about how rich you are, while she smiles and wishes you would just shut the fuck up.
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DZAMNNNN here we go......
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She should hide her Facebook.
People are going to have a field day with it.
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She should hide her Facebook.
People are going to have a field day with it.
Her Twitter is some real high IQ stuff!
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Listen bro’s. XFraudster gave us enough ammo here.
We really don’t need to dive into his personal life and ou him.
Bad form.
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Listen bro’s. XFraudster gave us enough ammo here.
We really don’t need to dive into his personal life and ou him.
Bad form.
Not really, he outed himself.Put yourself out there as much as he does, expect this to happen.Its like famous people always promoting themselves publically then complaining about intrusion of their private lives.Cant have it both ways kiddos.
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Xfactor way too hot for his wife (no homo)
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Listen bro’s. XFraudster gave us enough ammo here.
We really don’t need to dive into his personal life and ou him.
Bad form.
Public information.
Sometimes children just have to stick things in the light socket before they learn their lesson.
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Hahaha. Dressed to nines in a work environment where vans and a under armour polo is the norm.
Good for him. If he feels like a master of the universe, maybe one day he will be.
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Hahaha. Dressed to nines in a work environment where vans and a under armour polo is the norm.
Good for him. If he feels like a master of the universe, maybe one day he will be.
;D
That's the funniest part.Look at the rest them, clearly isn't a company of high flyers.I can just imagine Xfrauder every morning looking in the mirror,while putting on his leased tie"FAKE IT TIL YOU MAKE IT!FAKE IT TIL YOU MAKE IT!""
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Hahaha. Dressed to nines in a work environment where vans and a under armour polo is the norm.
Good for him. If he feels like a master of the universe, maybe one day he will be.
WTF? It's literally casual Friday, and he looks like he's going clubbing. :D
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Gentlemen,
Please keep personal information off the forum.
Please do me that favor. I've removed all posts containing personal information that identifies our members. Please keep it that way gentlemen.
Thank you to all.
"1"
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And XFACTOR had it all deleted lol.no surprise, completely exposed him as working for some 1 office mom and pop outfit, and being shoved to the back of company photos.He will never live this down.
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Gentlemen,
Fair warning, any additional posting of Xfactors personal and work related information will get you banned.
Keep it cool please.
"1"
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Gentlemen,
Please keep personal information off the forum.
Please do me that favor. I've removed all posts containing personal information that identifies our members. Please keep it that way gentlemen.
Thank you to all.
"1"
So where were you and your rules when the lying immigrant fuck was calling me a whore and starting a thread about me being a transvestite?
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Apparently Ellen of the senate had to gently break the bad news to the orange turd - that all of his ideas were dumb.
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Inside Trump’s risky push to reopen the country amid the coronavirus crisis
When Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) called President Trump last Sunday, he delivered a blunt message: If you reopen the nation’s economy too early against the advice of public-health experts, you will own the deaths from the novel coronavirus that follow.
Donald Trump wearing a suit and tie: President Trump speaks March 26 at the daily coronavirus news briefing at the White House.© Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post President Trump speaks March 26 at the daily coronavirus news briefing at the White House.
Trump’s stalwart ally also warned that the president wouldn’t be the only one held responsible. Graham said the Republican Party itself risks being defined ahead of this fall’s elections as prioritizing commerce and the stock market over the health and safety of the American people, according to three White House officials and a GOP lawmaker who spoke on the condition of anonymity to comment frankly.
Trump listened to Graham but made no promises, the officials said. Trump argued to the senator, as he later would in public, that Americans must get back to work and businesses need to reopen as quickly as possible.
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“Our country wasn’t built to be shut down,” the president said at a news conference last Monday, opening five straight days of public declarations raising the specter of easing social distancing guidelines and other restrictions by mid-April — a timeline that most experts studying the pandemic say is dangerously premature.
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Graham’s private plea, which some of Trump’s advisers have echoed to the president, illustrates the political calculations underway inside the leadership ranks of the Republican Party as the president balances dual crises as he seeks reelection: the pandemic that is claiming lives and overburdening hospitals, and the resulting economic meltdown that already has left millions jobless, with many facing financial ruin.
The White House’s coronavirus task force, led by Vice President Pence, is preparing to issue revised recommendations from the president to the public once the current 15-day guidelines expire Monday.
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Trump said Tuesday that he would like much of the country “opened up and raring to go” by Easter, which is April 12 — in part, he said, because he likes the imagery of church pews full for the holiday. Whether he follows through on that desire could be one of the most consequential decisions of his presidency.
Anthony S. Fauci wearing a suit and tie: Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, listens to President Trump speak at the White House on March 26.© Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, listens to President Trump speak at the White House on March 26.
The president is not technically the decider, however. The battle to reopen the country pits Trump against multiple governors, Democratic and Republican alike, who are scrambling to mitigate the impact of the coronavirus in their communities and marshal medical supplies for their hospitals. They will have the final say on when restaurants, stores and other gathering places in their states can reopen.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R), who moved early to confront the outbreak and was the first governor to order restaurants and bars closed, said in an interview, “People’s heads are now moving toward how we will open this back up. That is certainly something we’re looking at.” But, he added, “You’ve got to be ready for the surge that we know is coming.”
In other states across the country, the surge has arrived — and it is testing Trump’s belief that Easter is a reasonable target.
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In New York, the center of the coronavirus in the United States, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D) has emerged as a national leader during the pandemic as he has excoriated the federal response and pleaded with the administration to send more ventilators and other supplies and to be prudent about a resumption of normal life.
“If you ask the American people to choose between public health and the economy, then it’s no contest. No American is going to say, ‘Accelerate the economy at the cost of human life,’ ” Cuomo told reporters last week.
Trump has fostered a transactional dynamic — in which he insinuates that loyalty and praise could be helpful for states seeking federal help — that has unsettled governors looking for fair terms and clear guidance from the federal government, several gubernatorial aides said privately.
As Trump said Tuesday on Fox News Channel, “It’s a two-way street. They have to treat us well, also. They can’t say, ‘Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.’ ”
Andrew Cuomo looking at the camera: New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo speaks before members of the National Guard at a news conference March 27 at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City.© Bryan R. Smith/AFP/Getty Images New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo speaks before members of the National Guard at a news conference March 27 at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City.
A growing uneasiness about Trump’s motives and leadership hovers over private conversations among governors, according to top Democrats and Republicans privy to the conversations. Even those who are Trump’s political allies are “never quite sure what he’ll do or if they can trust what they hear from Pence,” according to one adviser to a Republican governor who, like others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to comment frankly.
Trump’s highly charged approach has prompted some governors to band together and discuss their own timelines for closures and other issues, with bipartisan and strong but under-the-radar partnerships driving many decisions.
“We’re all drinking out of a fire hose, but they’ve really been leaning on one another and pulling together,” Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said in an interview. “There is texting and phone calls back and forth — and it’s not like, have your scheduler call my scheduler.”
This collective gubernatorial power could be a counterweight in the coming days if Trump continues to rally for a national reopening. But governors will also continue to lean on Trump for federal help — an imperative that New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy (D) said would outweigh emerging tensions over reopening the economy, at least for now.
“We can’t print money, and we don’t have anything close to the stockpiles the federal government has, so we need them,” Murphy said in an interview.
Some red-state governors have been more aggressive about keeping their economies humming.
In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) was far slower than other big-state governors to order restrictions, and he refused to close beaches this month to spring break revelers.
a group of people on a beach: Cece Guida, 19, top, of New York City, pushes on Sam Reddick, 20, of Evansville, Ind., as other spring break revelers look on during a game of chicken fight on the beach March 17 in Pompano Beach, Fla.© Julio Cortez/AP Cece Guida, 19, top, of New York City, pushes on Sam Reddick, 20, of Evansville, Ind., as other spring break revelers look on during a game of chicken fight on the beach March 17 in Pompano Beach, Fla.
And in Mississippi, Gov. Tate Reeves (R) issued an executive order classifying most businesses in the state as “essential,” thereby exempting them from any shutdown orders that cities and counties issue.
“Mississippi’s never going to be China,” Reeves said — even as neighboring Louisiana has recorded one of the highest surges in coronavirus cases. Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) has warned that the number of patients will soon exceed the state’s treatment capacity.
Trump has said that his “first priority” is the health and safety of the American people and that his decision about what to recommend will be guided by the medical experts on his team. “We will be using data to recommend new protocols to allow local economies to cautiously resume their activity at the appropriate time,” the president said Tuesday.
Yet in private discussions, the president has been driven much more by economic concerns, according to people involved in internal debates or briefed on them. Trump has long viewed the stock market as a barometer for his own reelection hopes, and he has been distraught at the meltdown in recent weeks. He has been inundated with calls from business leaders, wealthy supporters and conservative allies urging him to get Americans back to work and stave off further calamity, even if doing so carries health risks.
“There’s a fatalism that no matter what he does, he’s going to get blamed by half of the country,” said a former senior administration official with knowledge of Trump’s thinking. “If there is something he has some measure of control over, which is the economy, why not potentially try to take action? Yes, there will be a death toll, and he’ll get blamed one way or another, but in all likelihood, whether he gets reelected or not will depend on where the economy is and where people’s perceptions of the economy are six months from now. That’s where he is primarily focused.”
Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: Vice President Pence and Trump at the daily coronavirus news briefing at the White House on March 23.© Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post Vice President Pence and Trump at the daily coronavirus news briefing at the White House on March 23.
Former Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell (D) said Trump is “overreacting terribly” to economic concerns by suggesting a premature return to normal when he ought to be focused entirely on mitigating the spread of the coronavirus.
“The thing he wanted most was to have a great economy. Boom, he’d win,” Rendell said. “It’s causing him to make a terrible error. . . . If the virus doesn’t abate, he’ll be blamed for it, and it’ll be an utter disaster.”
It is far too soon to measure public approval of Trump’s management of the pandemic and draw meaningful conclusions about his reelection chances, but it is likely to be the main event on which he is judged by voters in November, according to political strategists.
“The way public officials handle crises can be make or break moments for political careers,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster who is not affiliated with the Trump campaign. “The way public officials perform, their competence and their ability to help their constituents recover from a crisis overshadows almost anything else that they do.”
Trump’s reliance on his gut instincts and his decision to put his grievances and skepticism of the federal government at the fore of his approach has alarmed many governors, who said they feel isolated as they respond to a global crisis.
“Sometimes it’s difficult to understand what the White House’s position is,” Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) said in an interview. “We had the president one time saying it’s a hoax, then a few weeks later, it’s really, really bad, then, let’s shoot for Easter.”
Evers said Wisconsinites seeking facts and guidance are turning instead to local leaders and institutions, such as the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, which has canceled Easter Sunday Masses despite the president’s desire for packed pews. Asked whether he would take his cue on when to reopen Wisconsin’s economy from the president, the governor said, “No.”
“There is a disconnect, and while the president is free to make any comments he wants to, it’s confusing to people — that’s the bottom line,” Evers said. “My health-care officials and scientists are telling me it’s still a big deal. They’ll make the decisions based on science. That’s what we’ll do here.”
Gretchen Whitmer standing in front of a mirror posing for the camera: Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in a March 23 address in Lansing directing her state’s residents to stay home.© Julia Pickett/Michigan Governor’s Office/AP Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in a March 23 address in Lansing directing her state’s residents to stay home.
It’s not as if governors are opposed to reopening the economy quickly. “I share that goal with the president,” Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo (D) said in an interview.
In fact, Raimondo argued, governors are more in touch with the real-world consequences of the shutdown than is the president, who hears mostly from executives of large companies.
“We are the ones in our communities talking to the laid-off waitress stressed [about how] she’s going to take care of her children, talking to hospital workers worried if they will be safe,” Raimondo said.
As John Kasich, a former Republican governor of Ohio, put it, “When you’re governor, you realize you’re really the father or mother of the people inside of your state. You’re right there. You live with them. You see them. You hear from them.”
Trump has been closely tracking what governors say in the media and has been quick to attack those he sees as critical of the federal response. He repeatedly has trashed Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D), to name just two.
Whitmer and other governors said they are treading lightly with Trump and hoping to avoid his wrath. “I know that there is a sensitivity, sure,” Whitmer said in an interview.
“I have 10 million people in this state, and I need to be able to deliver on protecting them,” Whitmer said. “Working with the federal government is really important. I’ve never gone out of my way looking for a fight, and I’m certainly not doing that, because I need as much partnership and assistance from the federal government as I can get.”
“At the end of the day,” she added, “this isn’t a political fight. This is a fight to save lives.”
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And XFACTOR had it all deleted lol.no surprise, completely exposed him as working for some 1 office mom and pop outfit, and being shoved to the back of company photos.He will never live this down.
CEO and owner of a major software firm....
LOL
XBULLSHITTER !!!
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CEO and owner of a major software firm....
LOL
XBULLSHITTER !!!
As we always said, it never added up.You don't shout that loudly if you have nothing to prove.
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As we always said, it never added up.You don't shout that loudly if you have nothing to prove.
Do any of you think that this stops here with me ?
Don’t fucking kid yourselves for one second.
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Do any of you think that this stops here with me ?
Don’t fucking kid yourselves for one second.
He did ask for it, in my opinion. :-\
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Do any of you think that this stops here with me ?
Don’t fucking kid yourselves for one second.
Chill joon Jane.
No need to kick him in the head when he's already sprawled out unconscious on the floor. He probably won't be posting on here again
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Chill joon Jane.
No need to kick him in the head when he's already sprawled out unconscious on the floor. He probably won't be posting on here again
I will respect OMR’s request here on Getbig.
But outside of Getbig:
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I will respect OMR’s request here on Getbig.
But outside of Getbig:
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XFACTOR probably furiously deleting all his admissions of Ecstacy, cocaine,steroid use, dead baby jokes etc.
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Xfactor after he put his wife's kids to bed, and logged back into getbig.
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Xfactor after he put his wife's kids to bed, and logged back into getbig.
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He went awol for 15 mins after he saw the info, then was on the whole time since then watching the shitshow unfold.
7720 posts by him as of this point.
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He went awol for 15 mins after he saw the info, then was on the whole time since then watching the shitshow unfold.
Damn - I missed what happened?
Xfact been exposed as a Lair / exaggerating by the sound of it.
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Damn - I missed what happened?
Xfact been exposed as a Lair / exaggerating by the sound of it.
You could say so. :D
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Damn - I missed what happened?
Xfact been exposed as a Lair / exaggerating by the sound of it.
Xfactor works in sales for some IT company where he shows up to work dressed like a CEO and everyone else is dressed like it's casual Friday.
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Xfactor works in sales for some IT company where he shows up to work dressed like a CEO and everyone else is dressed like it's casual Friday.
Ha, there he goes then - He’s now the Chief Executive Outed as Employee
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He went awol for 15 mins after he saw the info, then was on the whole time since then watching the shitshow unfold.
7720 posts by him as of this point.
Can you imagine the poor family that owns that business having to explain to a potential client (female) why there is a 42 page thread on Getbig posted by one of their employees about her being a transvestite and a whore ?
Can you even begin to imagine the legal exposure and liability if that thread went out to customers ? Or high profile businesses like the Calgary Flames, Boston Bruins, and Dallas Cowboys ?
Tsk, tsk....almost makes you shudder.
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Can you imagine the poor family that owns that business having to explain to a potential client (female) why there is a 42 page thread on Getbig posted by one of their employees about her being a transvestite and a whore ?
Can you even begin to imagine the legal exposure and liability if that thread went out to customers ? Or high profile businesses like the Calgary Flames, Boston Bruins, and Dallas Cowboys ?
Tsk, tsk....almost makes you shudder.
Xfactor right now......
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Can you imagine the poor family that owns that business having to explain to a potential client (female) why there is a 42 page thread on Getbig posted by one of their employees about her being a transvestite and a whore ?
Can you even begin to imagine the legal exposure and liability if that thread went out to customers ? Or high profile businesses like the Calgary Flames, Boston Bruins, and Dallas Cowboys ?
Tsk, tsk....almost makes you shudder.
No replies from him - no aston Martin pics or latest Hublot - just radio silence!!
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Jane proving that theory about a woman scorned. So Xfactor is a salesman and not the owner and CEO of a big software company as he boasted so many times? Why am I not surprised?
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Jane proving that theory about a woman scorned. So Xfactor is a salesman and not the owner and CEO of a big software company as he boasted so many times? Why am I not surprised?
Lets put it this way. In the company photo, he's in the very back row. If you squint really hard, you can barely make out the top of his bald head. :D
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Lets put it this way. In the company photo, he's in the very back row. If you squint really hard, you can barely make out the top of his bald head. :D
Funniest part about that photo, was everyone was smiling, and he was the one whose face you could see least stuck at the back, with a huge scowl judging from his eyes and brow
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Funniest part about that photo, was everyone was smiling, and he was the one whose face you could see least stuck at the back, with a huge scowl judging from his eyes and brow
The sad thing here is the fact that the dude is built, is a salesman likely earning a good salary, has a hottish wife, tall etc. but he still feels the need to bullshit to make himself appear elite.
If he would just be himself he would be a cool dude I bet. He’s likely mentally ill.
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The sad thing here is the fact that the dude is built, is a salesman likely earning a good salary, has a hottish wife, tall etc. but he still feels the need to bullshit to make himself appear elite.
If he would just be himself he would be a cool dude I bet. He’s likely mentally ill.
No...and yes.
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She actually looks a lot like a middle-aged version of the first chick I ever banged, would still hit that mom-bod hard.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/26/men-are-getting-sicker-dying-more-often-covid-19-spain-data-shows/
More than 70% of the deaths are male.
Did feminists create this virus?
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Except you need to multiply the infected # by 100x and only THEN will you'll have an accurate death %
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Except you need to multiply the infected # by 100x and only THEN will you'll have an accurate death %
Doubtful.The Diamond Princess cruise liner and South Korea are our best sources of info since everyone was tested on the diamond and the huge rate of testing in south Korea.Both have a roughly 1.5% death rate.Problem is these are ideal situations where everyone is tested and everyone has access to care early.Once medical facilities are overloaded or a country simply has poor health care,very little testing, then these rates rise dramatically.
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Doubtful.The Diamond Princess cruise liner and South Korea are our best sources of info since everyone was tested on the diamond and the huge rate of testing in south Korea.Both have a roughly 1.5% death rate.Problem is these are ideal situations where everyone is tested and everyone has access to care early.Once medical facilities are overloaded or a country simply has poor health care,very little testing, then these rates rise dramatically.
They were also old. I think the average age of PC was 58.
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Obviously missed the cuckfactor action. Guy is an insecure no doubt but these are trying times and sales departments are folding at an exponential rate. Most businesses will begin to refuse upgrading their Solitaire and minesweeper packs rendering cuckfactor useless and unemployed. Nowa a time for the getbig brethren to rally around getbig greatest cuck and his illegitimate children and start a go fund me page to pay off his series 3 BMW from 15 years ago.
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Doubtful.The Diamond Princess cruise liner and South Korea are our best sources of info since everyone was tested on the diamond and the huge rate of testing in south Korea.Both have a roughly 1.5% death rate.Problem is these are ideal situations where everyone is tested and everyone has access to care early.Once medical facilities are overloaded or a country simply has poor health care,very little testing, then these rates rise dramatically.
The point about the cruise liner having a median age higher than the general population is very valid.
Also you need to at some point factor in the those who are infected, neutralize the virus in a matter hours/days and show no symptoms. They will likely test negative for an antigen test.
This is the key to the whole pandemic.
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The point about the cruise liner having a median age higher than the general population is very valid.
Also you need to at some point factor in the those who are infected, neutralize the virus in a matter hours/days and show no symptoms. They will likely test negative for an antigen test.
This is the key to the whole pandemic.
Sure, but it lines up far too well with south korea for it to be a coincidence imho.I havnt heard any evidence of people only testing positive in a small window yet.Not having symptoms or only having them for a few days, yes.
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The sad thing here is the fact that the dude is built, is a salesman likely earning a good salary, has a hottish wife, tall etc. but he still feels the need to bullshit to make himself appear elite.
If he would just be himself he would be a cool dude I bet. He’s likely mentally ill.
Very insecure douche bag, would be an intolerable person in real life.
I have an old school friend just like him, can't stand the cxnt...
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Sure, but it lines up far too well with south korea for it to be a coincidence imho.I havnt heard any evidence of people only testing positive in a small window yet.Not having symptoms or only having them for a few days, yes.
Yes, the testing has been a problem.
There were media reports a while back, people testing negative, getting more sick and a week later testing positive.
Sounds reasonable otherwise the most infectious virus out there is doing a pretty piss poor job given hospitals planet wide are overrun with sick.....but apparently not sick with coronvirus.
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Except you need to multiply the infected # by 100x and only THEN will you'll have an accurate death %
Correct.
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Sure, but it lines up far too well with south korea for it to be a coincidence imho.I havnt heard any evidence of people only testing positive in a small window yet.Not having symptoms or only having them for a few days, yes.
Remember tests in Iceland have shown half the people testing positive are asymptomatic and contact tracing can only really start from a symptomatic person. So plenty of cases will be missing from Korean numbers.
There has been plenty of literature about the asymptomatic and how infections via asymptomatic patients are very rare. The WHO have it at 3% or less.
If Asymptomatic cases are indeed 50% of all infections then places like Northern Italy, Madrid, New York and maybe London have or are close to reaching the required number of infections for herd immunity. The timeline just needs to play out now.
As a ballpark figure a city with a population of 10million which doesn't exceed surge capacity will approximately have 5K deaths on its way to achieving herd immunity. Could be 4 times that for somewhere like New York which is under prepared.
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Guys, you never, NEVER get back with a woman that cheated on you. No matter what she does after that and how many times she apologizes. You cut her out of your life the moment you find out. And if you do get back together, she will never respect you the way she could becuase then she knows you're a loser with no better option and when a woman doesn't respect you, the relationship is doomed.
Back to the virus, my country(Slovenia, next to italy on the east) has a population of 2 million . As of yesterday around 700 people have been confirmed positive. 9 people have died so far, 8 of them being old and living in nursing homes with other medical condoitions. The other 1 had terminal cancer and was around 67.
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Guys, you never, NEVER get back with a woman that cheated on you. No matter what she does after that and how many times she apologizes. You cut her out of your life the moment you find out. And if you do get back together, she will never respect you the way she could becuase then she knows you're a loser with no better option and when a woman doesn't respect you, the relationship is doomed.
Back to the virus, my country(Slovenia, next to italy on the east) has a population of 2 million . As of yesterday around 700 people have been confirmed positive. 9 people have died so far, 8 of them being old and living in nursing homes with other medical condoitions. The other 1 had terminal cancer and was around 67.
Ahh Did she Cheat is the question?
Cuckfactor says Not 🙄 Then again Cuckfactor appears to have Said many Untrue Things.
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Guys, you never, NEVER get back with a woman that cheated on you. No matter what she does after that and how many times she apologizes. You cut her out of your life the moment you find out. And if you do get back together, she will never respect you the way she could becuase then she knows you're a loser with no better option and when a woman doesn't respect you, the relationship is doomed.
Back to the virus, my country(Slovenia, next to italy on the east) has a population of 2 million . As of yesterday around 700 people have been confirmed positive. 9 people have died so far, 8 of them being old and living in nursing homes with other medical condoitions. The other 1 had terminal cancer and was around 67.
Your country is on the cusp of literal extinction, you just don't know it, and because what you don't know could kill you, you should be boarded up in your home to starve to death so Slovenia can survive the covid19 pandemic.
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Perhaps some hope -
“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“
Editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine by Dr. Fauci, Lane, and Redfield -
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
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Perhaps some hope -
“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“
Editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine by Dr. Fauci, Lane, and Redfield -
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
This is very possible and what I basically said a few posts earlier. But the fatality rate only remains low if hospital treatment is available for everyone who needs it.
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USA 1 month to get to 1k deaths, 48 hours to get to 2k deaths.
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Perhaps some hope -
“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2“
Editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine by Dr. Fauci, Lane, and Redfield -
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
It's just like the flu, nothing to worry about.
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This is very possible and what I basically said a few posts earlier. But the fatality rate only remains low if hospital treatment is available for everyone who needs it.
Sure, just posting it because it is attached to Dr. Fauci and NEJM.
Also, it wasn't a "Go out and live your life" type post. The 1957 and 68 flu outbreaks were terrible things on their own -
www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu <---- the 68.
Edit, also here were the population numbers for the US during 57 and 68, give or take a little -
1957 - 172,000,000 / 116,000 flu deaths.
1968 - 200,000,000 / 100,000 flu deaths.
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USA 1 month to get to 1k deaths, 48 hours to get to 2k deaths.
Well, to be fair, we did have to get it first.
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Xfactor works in sales for some IT company where he shows up to work dressed like a CEO and everyone else is dressed like it's casual Friday.
oh no poor guy....you guys owned him too much.
I saw the ownage, but what spawned it?
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oh no poor guy....you guys owned him too much.
I saw the ownage, but what spawned it?
See the planejane transvestite thread.
Personally I didn't take his posts bragging about his lifestyle seriously. Just a guy having some fun on the internet. He went after Jane though and it came back to bite him hard.
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Sure, just posting it because it is attached to Dr. Fauci and NEJM.
Also, it wasn't a "Go out and live your life" type post. The 1957 and 68 flu outbreaks were terrible things on their own -
www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu <---- the 68.
Edit, also here were the population numbers for the US during 57 and 68, give or take a little -
1957 - 172,000,000 / 116,000 flu deaths.
1968 - 200,000,000 / 100,000 flu deaths.
Was there total lockdowns in place during them times as so very many died.?
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Was there total lockdowns in place during them times as so very many died.?
In the US, the 1957 had quarantines and closures for public spaces (usually left to local authorities), although not as severe as now. Some remembrances here -
www.washingtonpost.com/local/when-flu-cut-mount-holyoke-off-from-the-world-in-1957-the-men-of-yale-dropped-in/2020/03/23/23e07d20-6d14-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html .
The 1968 was more or less allowed to burn itself out.
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Well, to be fair, we did have to get it first.
Also to be fair, anyone that has this and passes away is being lumped in regardless of what other ailments they have.
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Also to be fair, anyone that has this and passes away is being lumped in regardless of what other ailments they have.
Good point. If a person already has HIV, catches the Covid and dies, why doesn't HIV get the kill? ???
Covid is probably mooching all these deaths off other diseases. >:(
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Interseting video from Germany
58,000 deaths last year in Germany from the side effects of prescription meds... :o
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Good point. If a person already has HIV, catches the Covid and dies, why doesn't HIV get the kill? ???
Covid is probably mooching all these deaths off other diseases. >:(
That's been the issue with Italy.
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Good point. If a person already has HIV, catches the Covid and dies, why doesn't HIV get the kill? ???
Covid is probably mooching all these deaths off other diseases. >:(
You think HIV has beef with Coronavirus over this issue?
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5 min video
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^Mike O’Hearn running out of gear 2 weeks into quarantine...
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^Mike O’Hearn running out of gear 2 weeks into quarantine...
Im good for a year+.
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5 min video
Far too logical and reasonable for panicbiggers to understand.
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^Mike O’Hearn running out of gear 2 weeks into quarantine...
:D
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5 min video
Very logical- What is this then all about - IF that Video is correct.
I’ve been saying since this started The No.s just don’t add up.
Not to say the CHI NAH Virus is dangerous.
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Can't stump the Trump?Hopefully this is legit.
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Can't stump the Trump?Hopefully this is legit.
No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation
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Well here you have it. Trump just confirmed social distancing extended to 30th April......
I estimated June to ease back so it's looking like that could be the case.
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No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation
That's more the lefties melting down
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hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.
This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.
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hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.
This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.
Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?
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Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?
They would rather Trump fail than him be right and hundreds of thousands/millions be saved.The blackpill from all this is that it's a selfish world and everyone is out for their own interests, even faced with millions dying.
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Why is the media so anti-hydrochloroquine? Do they want us to die, or do they think it’s bogus?
It doesn’t fit there doom gloom & Control Agenda - last thing they want is people getting better and
Feeling happy & Well.
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hydroxychlroquine faciliates Zinc entering cells. once zinc is in the cell, it slows down virus replication.
azithromycin has some synergies with HCQ, but it also fights off other infections that could hurt you while your body is busy fighting the virus. the time that the zinc buys you allows your white blood cells to kill the virus before it gets too big in number.
This seems to be the simplified reason as to why it might possibly be working.
This shit is being heavily politicized. Rudy pulls out some russian orthodox jew doctor in New York who is himself is actually unable to see patients directly to make this claim.
This kinda BS needs to stop on both sides
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Deaths are far higher than been reported in Europe. Same places are not counting deaths at home in their figures, some aren't counting care home deaths.
UK/London has gone full potatoe and are only giving details of deaths only when the family have given permission. Ventilators will now only be going to those who have a high probability of recovery. Others will be sedated and left to pass in isolation.
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Deaths are far higher than been reported in Europe. Same places are not counting deaths at home in their figures, some aren't counting care home deaths.
UK/London has gone full potatoe and are only giving details of deaths only when the family have given permission. Ventilators will now only be going to those who have a high probability of recovery. Others will be sedated and left to pass in isolation.
Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.
Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...
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Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.
Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...
This is to difficult to understand for many on here.
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Deaths reported are being inflated
Death with the virus is not the same as death from the virus.
Regardless of cause of death bodies are now tested, if it comes back positive they are added to the Covid figures...
That would be like saying no one dies from aids.
If covid19 accelerates deaths from other health conditions then as much as people might not like it, it needs go down as a covid death.
Why? Because if we don't have long term immunity, or create a successful treatment or vaccine, then chances are this will become seasonal like flu and we'd need to scale up the health system to be robust enough to deal with it every year. Can't do that efficiently without accurate reporting of covid related deaths.
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Covid is culling the herd of the weak.
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That would be like saying no one dies from aids.
If covid19 accelerates deaths from other health conditions then as much as people might not like it, it needs go down as a covid death.
Why? Because if we don't have long term immunity, or create a successful treatment or vaccine, then chances are this will become seasonal like flu and we'd need to scale up the health system to be robust enough to deal with it every year. Can't do that efficiently without accurate reporting of covid related deaths.
Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄
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Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄
No you're classified as retarded
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Hmmm Let me get your thinking correct -
so I’ve got cancer & CHI NAH Virus (unknown to me) while out Driving my car I’m Killed
In a Road Traffic Accident- I’m Tested For The CHI NAH Virus & it comes back positive........
So I’m classified as a CHI NAH Virus Death. 🙄
Yes, that is exactly what's happening. A person who has COPD, CHF, Cardiomyopathy, etc. catches the kung flu and dies. The kung flu gets the kill. It's not fair. >:(
Think about the nursing homes. Half the residents are circling the drain already, and would probably die soon, without kung flu's help. Why does China Virus get all the glory? ???
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No you're classified as retarded
Deaths "from" covid19 are not the same as deaths "with" Covid19
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Deaths "from" covid19 are not the same as deaths "with" Covid19
The simple fact is covid19 makes pre-existing conditions more dangerous. If Covid19 exacerbates other conditions which then ends in death with covid complications then (for now) it needs recording as a covid death as that's what's being treated (or not as in the care homes)
It may well be the person would only have had 2 more extra months of life without covid, but they could just as easily have had 2 more years. We can not say for certain
As I said they need to accurately record every covid related death right now in case they need to deal with this seasonally. If it is just a one off then in time they can look at how the deaths are categorized more forensically. What they can't do is half ass it. Just look at the problems half assing has caused right now.
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The simple fact is covid19 makes pre-existing conditions more dangerous. If Covid19 exacerbates other conditions which then ends in death with covid complications then (for now) it needs recording as a covid death as that's what's being treated (or not as in the care homes)
It may well be the person would only have had 2 more extra months of life without covid, but they could just as easily have had 2 more years. We can not say for certain
As I said they need to accurately record every covid related death right now in case they need to deal with this seasonally. If it is just a one off then in time they can look at how the deaths are categorized more forensically. What they can't do is half ass it. Just look at the problems half assing has caused right now.
the fact that most people probably have the virus by now (if its as contagious as they make out) then everyone who goes into hospital either already has it or will get it while in hospital then every death will be put down to Covid19 if they test after death..
It will be interesting to see if deaths by other causes are dropping after this is over, my bet is the figures wont be available..
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the fact that most people probably have the virus by now (if its as contagious as they make out) then everyone who goes into hospital either already has it or will get it while in hospital then every death will be put down to Covid19 if they test after death..
It will be interesting to see if deaths by other causes are dropping after this is over, my bet is the figures wont be available..
Having the virus and having complications brought on by the virus are also 2 different things. You'll see some kinda respiratory distress and lung damage if it's a covid related death.
What we don't need is the deaths being glossed over and then facing the same situation again next year. Do you think we'll have many doctors and nurses left in a couple of years if they are forced to work 12 hour shifts for months without a day off dealing with pandemics?
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British police ignoring Mosques open for Friday prayers..
I thought you’d only love that now you’re a libtard
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No you're classified as retarded
Hmmmm if I’m Retarded - Then you’re not even on the scale - As intelligent as an amoeba
Carry on Oh Great Fuckwit. 👍🏻
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Yes, that is exactly what's happening. A person who has COPD, CHF, Cardiomyopathy, etc. catches the kung flu and dies. The kung flu gets the kill. It's not fair. >:(
Think about the nursing homes. Half the residents are circling the drain already, and would probably die soon, without kung flu's help. Why does China Virus get all the glory? ???
We’ll have to ask the Great Amoeba Fuckwit Fleacon he knows Fuck all.
Me I Thinks it’s as follows,
It suits the purpose of pushing the Dangerous Virus that kills all & force everyone to be
Locked up at home for their own Health & Safety.
So the casualty No.s are huge from the CHI NAH Virus = More Fear = More Control.
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Having the virus and having complications brought on by the virus are also 2 different things. You'll see some kinda respiratory distress and lung damage if it's a covid related death.
What we don't need is the deaths being glossed over and then facing the same situation again next year. Do you think we'll have many doctors and nurses left in a couple of years if they are forced to work 12 hour shifts for months without a day off dealing with pandemics?
If this virus is as dangerous as they are making out it wouldnt matter if the hospitals were closed, it would appear everyones dying any way..
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I think this car analogy is better:
Car is on a cliff. It may have all kinds of problems. Bad brakes, it's leaking oil etc. but it's not going anywhere.
A huge boulder hits the car, pushing it over the edge of the cliff.
Corona is that boulder.
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As I said they need to accurately record every covid related death right now in case they need to deal with this seasonally. If it is just a one off then in time they can look at how the deaths are categorized more forensically. What they can't do is half ass it. Just look at the problems half assing has caused right now.
Agreed. NYC really dropped the ball.
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If this virus is as dangerous as they are making out it wouldnt matter if the hospitals were closed, it would appear everyones dying any way..
It's dangerous to the economy, infrastructure and social order.Most people won't die, providing it doesn't mutate or have long effects we don't yet know about.But it doesn't take much to tank the economy, doesn't take many deaths to overload hospitals from the equilibrium of predictable deaths that have been calculated before this in to day to day hospital running, and certainly doesn't take much to cause social unrest in the grand scheme of things.Letting it run wild with no lockdowns would have been catastrophic.
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People starting to breakdown in Italy from having no money or food
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No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation
So, because you do NOT politically agree with them it's fake news?
We are fucked lol
Bench
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So, because you do NOT politically agree with them it's fake news?
We are fucked lol
Bench
Look another retard.
The Doctor making the claim hasn't seen a single covid19 patient. He's been self isolated for weeks
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Look another retard.
The Doctor making the claim hasn't seen a single covid19 patient. He's been self isolated for weeks
I can find countless promising articles backing it.With a quick Google search, I couldn't find anything backing your claim.I dont doubt some small leftist site is parroting what you are saying, but can you please link it?
> Areas in Italy now prescribing to anyone with signs of COVID19. Great results
https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/italy-finally-starts-mass-treatment-with-hydroxychloroquine
> FDA Authorizes HCQ for use against COVID19 in USA
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/29/fda-gives-emergency-authorization-of-hydroxychloroquine-use/
> France now mass treating with HCQ + White Wizard walks out of government meeting accusing them of being in the pocket of big pharma
https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/breaking-italy-france-now-prescribing-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-coronavirus-patients/
> Zelenko has now treated 699 patients with H/A. 100% success rate.
https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
>Bahrain says it is working effectively:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1242938204589785089
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>Bahrain says it is working effectively:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1242938204589785089
Bahrain checking in, but what do the reports from Dubai, India say?
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Marseille has also treated 1300 patients with a 99.99% success rate.Very promising indeed.Best part is IF it is proven to work, it's only 5 euros of drugs per patient.
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I can find countless promising articles backing it.With a quick Google search, I couldn't find anything backing your claim.I dont doubt some small leftist site is parroting what you are saying, but can you please link it?
> Areas in Italy now prescribing to anyone with signs of COVID19. Great results
https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/italy-finally-starts-mass-treatment-with-hydroxychloroquine
> FDA Authorizes HCQ for use against COVID19 in USA
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/29/fda-gives-emergency-authorization-of-hydroxychloroquine-use/
> France now mass treating with HCQ + White Wizard walks out of government meeting accusing them of being in the pocket of big pharma
https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/breaking-italy-france-now-prescribing-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-coronavirus-patients/
> Zelenko has now treated 699 patients with H/A. 100% success rate.
https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/
>Bahrain says it is working effectively:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1242938204589785089
There is a big difference between a treatment showing potential and someone claiming a 100% success rate.
You've posted a link to what I just said, so no need for me to do anything. I told before, do your due diligence. Remember when you were posting studies to support claims that only Asians were infected by the virus... ::)
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After President Trump Directive, FDA Issues Emergency Approval to Use Anti-Malaria Drug Hydroxychloroquine to Treat the Chi-Com Virus
Breaking – FDA issues emergency authorization of HCQ…
Novartis CEO – HCQ is our best hope, donates 130 million doses…
‘Clinical studies show HCQ kills the coronavirus’…
Sandoz donates 30 million doses…
Johnson & Johnson signs deal to deliver 1 billion doses of virus vaccine…
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Perspective:
Chi-Com Virus Deaths: Italy, 1 in 5,789 People; United States, 1 in 157,499.
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There is a big difference between a treatment showing potential and someone claiming a 100% success rate.
You've posted a link to what I just said, so no need for me to do anything. I told before, do your due diligence. Remember when you were posting studies to support claims that only Asians were infected by the virus... ::)
Link to your claims about the Doctor in New York?
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Link to your claims about the Doctor in New York?
You posted the link already. It's in his interview.
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Yes, that is exactly what's happening. A person who has COPD, CHF, Cardiomyopathy, etc. catches the kung flu and dies. The kung flu gets the kill. It's not fair. >:(
Think about the nursing homes. Half the residents are circling the drain already, and would probably die soon, without kung flu's help. Why does China Virus get all the glory? ???
It’s the exact same playbook as the AIDS scare. No matter what kind of ailment you had, if there was also an HIV positive test, it’s AIDS.
To answer your question: to pad the numbers.
This is from the Left leaning Guardian. Could the description be any more vague?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/23/have-i-already-had-covid19-coronavirus
Could I have had it and been asymptomatic?
Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat – to people with more flu-like symptoms – high fevers, muscle aches, shortness of breath and cough. All the way up to people with severe illness, who we’re seeing in the hospital with respiratory failure, requiring ICU care.
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You posted the link already. It's in his interview.
Link to where it's a lie and he has been self isolated for weeks?
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Link to where it's a lie and he has been self isolated for weeks?
"First of all I'm practicing medicine remotely..." oh brother
=1942
He is a facetime doctor ;D
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Overblown fake news.
BREAKING: Daily New U.S. Coronavirus Cases Fall For The First Time In 7 Days
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-daily-new-u-s-coronavirus-cases-fall-for-the-first-time-in-7-days/ (https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-daily-new-u-s-coronavirus-cases-fall-for-the-first-time-in-7-days/)
New daily Coronavirus cases in the United States fell for the first time in over a week, according to the latest numbers from Worldometers.
On Sunday March 29th, the US registered 18,469 new daily Coronavirus cases, which was down from 19,452 on Saturday. This could very well mark the beginning of a "peak" in new Coronavirus cases in the United States.
New daily Coronavirus cases in the United States fell for the first time in over a week, according to the latest numbers from Worldometers.
On Sunday March 29th, the US registered 18,469 new daily Coronavirus cases, which was down from 19,452 on Saturday. This could very well mark the beginning of a "peak" in new Coronavirus cases in the United States.
While the "total" case number is still seeing steady growth, this drop in "daily new" cases could mean that the exponential spread of the virus has come to a grinding halt.
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Like to where it's a lie and he has been self isolated for weeks?
The big thing with the Jewish doctor in New York is that he upset the Hasidic religious elders in NY. The Hasidim in New York are one of the biggest quarantine breaking communities in NY, and aren't happy with a light being shined on it.
That being said, he is in quarantine according to this article -
https://forward.com/news/national/442285/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump-doctor/ .
The brouhaha he's raised in the Hasidic community -
https://www.recordonline.com/news/20200324/kiryas-joel-leaders-urge-doctor-to-stop-making-videos-about-kj-virus-cases .
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"First of all I'm practicing medicine remotely..." oh brother
=1942
He is a facetime doctor ;D
Again, link to it all being a LIE AND him being self isolated?I don't see what him being remote has to do with anything.Boris Johnson is currently running an entire country remotely.
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Again, link to it all being a LIE AND him being self isolated?I don't see what him being remote has to do with anything.Boris Johnson is currently running an entire country remotely.
Solid Corona induced meltdown. Where did I say it's a lie?
I said it's fake news. That means there is no proof to his claims. Do you not understand that concept? I posted a link to his self isolation.
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Very logical- What is this then all about - IF that Video is correct.
I’ve been saying since this started The No.s just don’t add up.
Not to say the CHI NAH Virus is dangerous.
I don't know how to post this with humor because there is nothing funny about thousands of people dying.
Have you looked at the list of countries showing the number of cases and deaths? It's pretty interesting and not what I expected. I think the Novel coronavirus is after the folks in the affluent first world countries. Which is just the opposite of how many recent pandemics have played out, like Ebola.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
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I don't know how to post this with humor because there is nothing funny about thousands of people dying.
Have you looked at the list of countries showing the number of cases and deaths? It's pretty interesting and not what I expected. I think the Novel coronavirus is after the folks in the affluent first world countries. Which is just the opposite of how many recent pandemics have played out, like Ebola.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
It just spread faster in affluent countries because those people are able to travel more.
Also a lot of deaths will go unnoticed in poorer countries. It will just get passed off as dying because of old age.
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I'm sick and tired of hearing about the coronavirus
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I'm sick and tired of hearing about the coronavirus
A lot of us are. Unfortunately, I suspect we will be hearing about it for a long time to come. I'm 75 years old and this is the biggest thing that has happened in my lifetime. People will be talking about this for years. Even if they find a cure for it or a vaccine to prevent it.
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A lot of us are. Unfortunately, I suspect we will be hearing about it for a long time to come. I'm 75 years old and this is the biggest thing that has happened in my lifetime. People will be talking about this for years. Even if they find a cure for it or a vaccine to prevent it.
It appears they have effectively found the drugs to tackle CHI NAH Virus they need to be promoted & got out to all that need them - they cost about $5 to treat each person - Far cheaper & more effective than a Countries on lockdown/ people out of Work / Businesses Closing Etc.
We sure will be talking about this for many many years to come - This is a changing point for ultimate control of mass populations. And so Simply achieved.
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After President Trump Directive, FDA Issues Emergency Approval to Use Anti-Malaria Drug Hydroxychloroquine to Treat the Chi-Com Virus
Breaking – FDA issues emergency authorization of HCQ…
Novartis CEO – HCQ is our best hope, donates 130 million doses…
‘Clinical studies show HCQ kills the coronavirus’…
Sandoz donates 30 million doses…
Johnson & Johnson signs deal to deliver 1 billion doses of virus vaccine…
Great great news. Let’s see how the MSM spin this out or if they will Push & Promote it as
Much as they have all the Doom & Gloom.
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I'm sick and tired of hearing about the coronavirus
Oh yeah? Maybe this will cheer you up
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Great great news. Let’s see how the MSM spin this out or if they will Push & Promote it as
Much as they have all the Doom & Gloom.
Hope it works. If it doesn't Trump will be screwed as will a lot of sick people. Sorry, it is hard to have a sense of humor about this pandemic. You'll just have to let me off the hook on this topic.
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This virus has now spread to one of the largest squatter camps in South Africa.
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Hope it works. If it doesn't Trump will be screwed as will a lot of sick people. Sorry, it is hard to have a sense of humor about this pandemic. You'll just have to let me off the hook on this topic.
Check my other thread for some more info - Many other countries are getting on with this treatment
And Drug companies giving out doses & ramping up production.
Plus FDA Approval- Now that has To Be Good News For All of Us.
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This virus has now spread to one of the largest squatter camps in South Africa.
I suspect that camp was a human petri dish long before corona was on the scene.
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Old Saggy is 75 again ::).
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This virus has now spread to one of the largest squatter camps in South Africa.
Finally some good news from Mama Afrika :D.
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Old Saggy is 75 again ::).
Again? I'm expecting a birthday present from you next August on my 76th birthday. Don't forget it....again.
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Again? I'm expecting a birthday present from you next August on my 76th birthday. Don't forget it....again.
What would U like : Chinavirus or Coronavirus :D
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Trump is a stupid person
People the vote for him are stupider
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-seeks-to-sell-public-on-his-coronavirus-response/ar-BB11VVC7
President Trump is aggressively seeking to sell the public on his administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic, a push slammed by critics for presenting a rosier picture than reality.
At the White House's daily press briefings, Trump has taken credit for doing a "hell of a job" and fashioned himself as a wartime president against a backdrop of steadily escalating coronavirus cases and deaths.
He's said he always knew the outbreak was a pandemic after downplaying the danger in January and February, while voicing optimism about progress in testing and finding a vaccine.
He's criticized state governors who have complained about shortages in critical medical supplies and repeatedly battled with the media. On Sunday, he denied saying things he'd said days earlier, adding fuel to a debate in the media about whether to show the press briefings in real time.
"As @realDonaldTrump continues to prattle on at his nightly rally about what a terrific job he's doing, America clears 100,000 diagnosed COVID-19 cases-tops in the world and rapidly climbing," CNN pundit and former Obama strategist David Axelrod wrote in a Sunday tweet. "Why are we wasting so much time on tedious, shameless self-promotion?"
Polls show a majority of the public approves of the job Trump is doing, which likely bolsters the White House's confidence in the briefings. Trump has also sought to play questions about whether the media would broadcast the briefings to his advantage by setting up the press as rooting for his and the country's failure.
Trump in recent days described his administration's performance as "fantastic," "incredible" and "great" amid criticism that the administration was late to recognize the threat and to urge Americans to practice social distancing.
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To be sure, the president has taken steps that have earned him commendation, including the decision to declare a national emergency over the virus on March 13 and, more recently, to extend social distancing guidelines until the end of April based on advice from public health officials.
"I think, beginning March 13, he has come to grips with the crisis," said Yanzhong Huang, a global health fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
But even after March 13, Trump flirted with reopening much of the country by Easter before being convinced the virus's spread might actually be peaking around that holiday on April 12.
Huang said Trump's decision to restrict travel from China in late January, which the president often cites as an example of swift action against the virus, would have been more effective if it had been paired with more aggressive steps to screen travelers and enforce quarantines.
Some of the president's key actions to combat the virus have also amounted to reversals from previously held stances, further undermining his effort to project a sense of control over the pandemic.
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The world is battling the COVID-19 outbreak that the World Health Organization declared a global pandemic, which has claimed more than 36,946 lives and infected more than 775,306 people around the world.
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Trump last week invoked the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to make ventilators one day after he questioned state requests for tens of thousands of the breathing machines.
Trump on Sunday predicted the deaths from the virus would peak in two weeks and repeatedly referred to models that showed up to 2.2 million Americans could die of the virus without any mitigation efforts, saying the figure influenced his decision to extend social distancing guidelines.
He also then took credit for actions that he said would prevent the country from reaching such a gruesome milestone.
"If we can hold that down, as we're saying, to 100,000 - it's a horrible number maybe even less, but to 100,000... we all, together, have done a very good job," Trump told reporters in the Rose Garden.
Yet Trump as recently as last week compared the coronavirus to the common flu or automobile accidents. He predicted in February that the number of confirmed cases in the U.S. would be close to zero "within a couple days."
"The most cynical thing @POTUS did yesterday was move the goal posts on his performance. He now says millions would have died if not for his heroic effort. That's to cover for hundreds of thousands dying. Just remember his inaction got us here and he said that magic would solve it," Joe Lockhart, a former White House spokesman under President Clinton, wrote in a tweet.
Trump has talked up therapeutic treatments being tested by the Food and Drug Administration, such as drugs used to treat malaria, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, that are being tested on more than 1,000 patients in New York. Health professionals, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have emphasized that the treatments have not yet been proven to be safe and effective.
The president's allies have credited him with adopting a somber tone for most of the past two weeks. He appeared to fully grasp the extent of the problem on Sunday as he spoke soberly about worst case scenarios and images of bodies being taken out of a New York City hospital.
Advisers also pointed to the extension of social distancing guidelines despite a desire to reopen parts of the economy as proof that Trump is actually taking to heart the data presented to him by officials like Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx.
Trump signaled in an appearance Monday on "Fox & Friends" that he would continue to listen to public health officials if they recommended extending the guidelines into May.
"Once he saw the gravity of the numbers in the modeling, he made the right choice," said Jason Miller, a former Trump campaign aide who now co-hosts a radio show focused on the pandemic.
Recent polling indicates Trump's tactics to flood the airwaves with his own messaging may be effective politically. An ABC News-Washington Post poll released at the end of last week showed that 51 percent of Americans surveyed approve of Trump's handling of the coronavirus outbreak, whereas 45 percent disapprove. Fifty-eight percent also said the president acted too slowly in the early days of the outbreak.
Trump will face a major test in the coming weeks as he shepherds the public through a period expected to yield the peak number of COVID-19 cases and further economic turmoil. The number of domestic cases exceeded 153,000 on Monday, while statewide shutdowns have forced businesses to temporarily close their doors and lay off or furlough employees.
"Presidents get reelected in wartimes more often than not," said GOP strategist Alex Conant, who held communications roles in George W. Bush's White House and on Sen. Marco Rubio's (R-Fla.) 2016 presidential campaign. "We've already seen at least a little bit of a rallying around the commander in chief, and we don't know how long that lasts."
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‘Even the invincible aren’t invincible’: HS baseball coach, 30, dies of coronavirus
Ben Luderer, the head baseball coach at Cliffside Park and a member of the 2008 Don Bosco Prep team that was ranked No. 1 in the nation, died Monday from complications of the coronavirus.
Luderer, 30, was remembered as a key member of a national championship baseball team and an up-and-coming head coach by his former high school coaches Monday.
“It’s a shocking loss,” said Greg Butler the head coach of the 2008 Don Bosco team and now the athletic director at Demarest. “Even the invincible aren’t invincible. That was a group of guys who could not be beaten, then something like this happens and shows just how vulnerable we all are.
“He was a healthy, strong, athletic, 30-year-old head coach.”
Luderer was a special education teacher at School No. 6 (middle school) in Cliffside Park.
“He is irreplaceable,” said Cliffside Park athletic director David Porfido. “I cried all morning.”
Porfido said he informed players of Luderer’s death via video conference on Monday.
“We all live by rulebooks and manuals, but there was nothing for this,” Porfido said. “When I told the kids there was nothing but silence.”
Luderer went to the hospital last Friday when he felt symptoms consistent with coronavirus, according to Porfido, but he was sent home.
“I was told things went bad on Sunday night,” Porfido said. “He died at his home.”
Luderer played his college baseball at Marist. He was one of seven Division I players on a Don Bosco team that went 33-0. At Marist, he also met his wife Brandy, who coaches volleyball and basketball at Cliffside Park.
“We were playing in the county championship game in 2006 and we had the game wrapped up,” said former Don Bosco head coach Leon Matthews. “Ben was only a sophomore and I wanted to put him in the game. He turned to me and said ‘coach, let the senior finish it up.’
“He was selfless. You don’t forget a kid like that.”
During the historic 2008 season, Luderer was given the job of catching and managing one of New Jersey’s premier pitching staffs. The two aces were left-hander Eric Pfisterer and righty Eric Dennhardt.
Pfisterer went on to pitch at Duke and was a 15th round draft choice of the Cincinnati Reds as a senior. Dennhardt went to Boston College and also played in the Reds organization.
“I needed him to control that pitching staff,” Butler said. “You needed to be a heck of catcher to handle their stuff and work the game.
“His senior year he hit in the six-hole for us and I don’t think he went into a slump all season. It seemed like he had a clutch RBI in every game.”
“With Ben you never had to coach effort,” Matthews said. “Ben was a little round when he came to us as a freshman from River Dell. But he got himself in shape and he worked on everything. He loved practice. He was one of those first-to-arrive, last-to-leave kind of kids.”
Matthews, who coached Luderer his first three seasons at Don Bosco and in travel ball, said he was on his way to becoming an outstanding coach.
“He loved coaching, he loved teaching and making kids better,” Matthews said. “It gave me chills to watch him coach.
“I can only imagine what kind of loss this is for the kids in the Cliffside Park program. There are a lot of guys who don’t pour their hearts into the kids. I watched him and he taught every kid the same from his best players to those who were on his bench.
“He was going to be a great coach,” Matthews added.
Butler, who also directs the Bergen County Tournament, said Cliffside Park was on its way back to becoming prominent.
“When I was a kid, Cliffside Park was a good program, but in recent years it fell off the rails,” Butler said. “He helped bring that program back to respectability. I was excited to see it.”
“Ben preached education-based athletics,” Porfido said. “He learned Spanish so he could communicate better with some of our kids and their parents. He related to our kids in any way possible. Ben did a tremendous job of getting our program to the next level. We have two juniors who signed letters of intent and two seniors going to play in college.
“He was a friend to everybody and just a tremendous person to be around. It’s just horrible.”
https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/even-the-invincible-arent-invincible-hs-baseball-coach-30-dies-of-coronavirus.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1SGo-X-XTOXWBQhuV-yKKV6xFprWX_EX6em_Lfqah0IXpzkkHXvpS6JqQ
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Trump is a smart person
People the vote for him are intelligent
:D
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My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
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My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
All joking aside, good luck to you guys and be safe. Also, considering being less of an old fag.
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My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
Damn - That’s not what she or the household needs
Hopefully she’ll come back clear from the virus in the test.
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A lot of us are.
I want hard data exactly how many people do you actually know who aren't?
unfortunately, I suspect we will be hearing about it for a long time to come.
I would not bet on that.
I am 75 years old and this is the biggest thing that has happened in my lifetime.
My closest friend here is 83 and he begs to differ.
even if they find a cure for it or a vaccine to prevent it.
Im snarky because I haven't slept and I did not like the tone of your post, it comes across very much like if we presumed the media is in fact trying to brainwash the masses the most advanced (in terms of % of brainwashed matter vs unbrainwashed matter in your skull) would of course be retired since they have more "free time" to spend doing WHAT? Watching television of course! I shudder at the thought that there might be more people who sound like your post did and sadly the only logic I really have for reference says as we are forced indoors and glued to the television sets, sooner or later we will all sound like you. In this post you made I am referencing. Usually I enjoy reading what you wright.
FYI the day is coming sooner than later that the media will wash this experience from most peoples list of things to allocate scant mental resources to. You may not even notice when it happens, but it's right around the corner I think.
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All joking aside, good luck to you guys and be safe. Also, considering being less of an old fag.
Thank you for the well wishes. They are much appreciated. We're hoping it's just a scare. We should know in about 5 days. It sure dumps the whole mess on our doorstep though. This is going to play out in one of two ways. One being that my daughter didn't contract the virus from her physical therapist and she and the rest of us can literally breathe a little easier, or she did and we'll all end up getting tested and or quarantined. If one of us is going to get sick and die, it should be me because I've lived a full life. The rest of my family is just getting started.
On another note. Maybe you could explain for me how someone becomes less of an old fag? I'm old and not getting any younger, God damn it! I've also been bisexual for the last 6 or 7 decades which has not changed, much as there were times past when I wish it had.
Did you know that many gay folks don't like bisexual folks, just as many straight folks don't like us either? Lucky me, huh? Why does it bother some people when other people learn to be comfortable in their own skin, once they figure out they don't have the option of getting new skin? Only snakes get to do that.
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Thank you for the well wishes. They are much appreciated. We're hoping it's just a scare. We should know in about 5 days. It sure dumps the whole mess on our doorstep though. This is going to play out in one of two ways. One being that my daughter didn't contract the virus from her physical therapist and she and the rest of us can literally breathe a little easier, or she did and we'll all end up getting tested and or quarantined. If one of us is going to get sick and die, it should be me because I've lived a full life. The rest of my family is just getting started.
On another note. Maybe you could explain for me how someone becomes less of an old fag? I'm old and not getting any younger, God damn it! I've also been bisexual for the last 6 or 7 decades which has not changed, much as there were times past when I wish it had.
Did you know that many gay folks don't like bisexual folks, just as many straight folks don't like us either? Lucky me, huh? Why does it bother some people when other people learn to be comfortable in their own skin, once they figure out they don't have the option of getting new skin? Only snakes get to do that.
Most people don't care about what someone's sexual preference is. In fact, unless someone is involved in one's personal lives there should be no reason they would even know what their sexual proclivities are. What we don't like is having it shoved in our faces constantly. There are many gay people on this board and it's never an issue as they mostly keep it to themselves. With you, it's always there. Always trying to normalize it. Always making excuses for perversion and even defending it. It's like your sexuality is what primarily defines you. If anybody starts a thread or makes a post regarding anything having to do with gayness, transsexuality, bisexuality, gender confusion... anything, there you will be front and center.
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Most people don't care about what someone's sexual preference is. In fact, unless someone is involved in one's personal lives there should be no reason they would even know what their sexual proclivities are. What we don't like is having it shoved in our faces constantly. There are many gay people on this board and it's never an issue as they mostly keep it to themselves. With you, it's always there. Always trying to normalize it. Always making excuses for perversion and even defending it. It's like your sexuality is what primarily defines you. If anybody starts a thread or makes a post regarding anything having to do with gayness, transsexuality, bisexuality, gender confusion... anything, there you will be front and center.
Excellent post. For what it's worth, I would take up arms and march to my death to defend this country. Who or what people like to fuck, don't care don't really need to know about it, DEFINITELY don't need or want to hear about it, DEFINITELY don't need/want to have to see it proudly displayed for the world to see. Be more Japanese, less American. At the end of the day it's the logical thing to do as unity brings strength, division weakness. It makes sense to carry on publicly in the least controversial way. While still preserving the essence of controversy and free speech and individualism etc. You know what I mean.
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Most people don't care about what someone's sexual preference is. In fact, unless someone is involved in one's personal lives there should be no reason they would even know what their sexual proclivities are. What we don't like is having it shoved in our faces constantly. There are many gay people on this board and it's never an issue as they mostly keep it to themselves. With you, it's always there. Always trying to normalize it. Always making excuses for perversion and even defending it. It's like your sexuality is what primarily defines you. If anybody starts a thread or makes a post regarding anything having to do with gayness, transsexuality, bisexuality, gender confusion... anything, there you will be front and center.
How about you learn a new tune. This one is getting really old. Have you ever thought about not making or following threads about people's sexuality? Or at least not ragging on about it when someone else does?
Case in point. I responded to a direct question someone asked me. You weren't a part of our conversation and yet here you are horning in on it. Something you do fairly often. But maybe you haven't notice that.
You are a fairly competent Getbig historian. Maybe you could tell me how many of these threads which seem to trouble you so much I've actually started. See how that works? But hey, don't put yourself out. Wouldn't want anything gay to rub off on you. Because if it did, you'd have to kill yourself.
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Thank you for the well wishes. They are much appreciated. We're hoping it's just a scare. We should know in about 5 days. It sure dumps the whole mess on our doorstep though. This is going to play out in one of two ways. One being that my daughter didn't contract the virus from her physical therapist and she and the rest of us can literally breathe a little easier, or she did and we'll all end up getting tested and or quarantined. If one of us is going to get sick and die, it should be me because I've lived a full life. The rest of my family is just getting started.
On another note. Maybe you could explain for me how someone becomes less of an old fag? I'm old and not getting any younger, God damn it! I've also been bisexual for the last 6 or 7 decades which has not changed, much as there were times past when I wish it had.
Did you know that many gay folks don't like bisexual folks, just as many straight folks don't like us either? Lucky me, huh? Why does it bother some people when other people learn to be comfortable in their own skin, once they figure out they don't have the option of getting new skin? Only snakes get to do that.
Id be willing to bet you aren't even bisexual. How many men have you slept with in the last 6 months? Year? 5 years? Questions are relevant as the title "Bisexual" implies you have sex with both men and women. It does not mean you find some dudes to be good looking, it means some of the time chicks get you off, but a certain looking dude could have done just as well.
Human sexuality is ooooooo super complex and super individualistically open to interpretation but at the end of the day, if you are bisexual, I don't think a monogamous relationship with a woman would be fulfilling. In fact, it would probably end in disaster.
Just throwing my opinion out there because the whole topic seems a little sensitive for you, or worth talking about to you, and I felt what I wrote might enlighten you. Time to time I see men I can say I find appealing physically, I can appreciate male beauty, but I have never in my life felt like being with a good looking dude was my ticket even just for the night. Sex appeal as it pertains to bisexuality implies you can be and often must be turned on by an aggressive male, theoretically you would still find a submissive female attractive I guess.
You must also dig the aroma of male sweat cum and asshole residue. I've smelled it, no thank you.
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How about you learn a new tune. This one is getting really old. Have you ever thought about not making or following threads about people's sexuality? Or at least not ragging on about it when someone else does?
Case in point. I responded to a direct question someone asked me. You weren't a part of our conversation and yet here you are horning in on it. Something you do fairly often. But maybe you haven't notice that.
You are a fairly competent Getbig historian. Maybe you could tell me how many of these threads which seem to trouble you so much I've actually started. See how that works? But hey, don't put yourself out. Wouldn't want anything gay to rub off on you. Because if it did, you'd have to kill yourself.
Whoa whoa whoa- Pellius, I think this old dude is coming on to you! Holy shit, he really is bisexual!
And e-grinding on getbig as it were hehe.
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Id be willing to bet you aren't even bisexual. How many men have you slept with in the last 6 months? Year? 5 years? Questions are relevant as the title "Bisexual" implies you have sex with both men and women. It does not mean you find some dudes to be good looking, it means some of the time chicks get you off, but a certain looking dude could have done just as well.
Human sexuality is ooooooo super complex and super individualistically open to interpretation but at the end of the day, if you are bisexual, I don't think a monogamous relationship with a woman would be fulfilling. In fact, it would probably end in disaster.
Just throwing my opinion out there because the whole topic seems a little sensitive for you, or worth talking about to you, and I felt what I wrote might enlighten you. Time to time I see men I can say I find appealing physically, I can appreciate male beauty, but I have never in my life felt like being with a good looking dude was my ticket even just for the night. Sex appeal as it pertains to bisexuality implies you can be and often must be turned on by an aggressive male, theoretically you would still find a submissive female attractive I guess.
You must also dig the aroma of male sweat cum and asshole residue. I've smelled it, no thank you.
Who knows what I am or am not. People like putting other people in convenient little boxes. Sometimes we will say something just to make them more comfortable. To answer your question. I haven't been with anyone, male or female in the last 5 years and actually for much, much longer than that. I could give you more details, but I wouldn't want to set Pellius off, so I am trying to be succinct here.
You raise some interesting questions. Too bad I have a gag order from on high. ::) PM me if you want to continue this conversation.
BTW, nobody's asshole smells very good unless you like the smell of shit. Ever hear the expression, shit stinks? ;D
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Look another retard.
The Doctor making the claim hasn't seen a single covid19 patient. He's been self isolated for weeks
Fully site your source without a news link....until then? Kill yourself for being part of the problem :-*
Bench
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My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
Why the fuck is it taking 5 days. If she really has it, then 5 days from now it might be too late to reverse some of the issues. What the fuck is wrong with our medical system. People who want to claim we have the best in the world need to shut the fuck up. Our country can't even handle 100000 sick patients without fucking chaos.
Trump was blabbing his orange lips about some 15 minute test. Where is it?
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Why the fuck is it taking 5 days. If she really has it, then 5 days from now it might be too late to reverse some of the issues. What the fuck is wrong with our medical system. People who want to claim we have the best in the world need to shut the fuck up. Our country can't even handle 100000 sick patients without fucking chaos.
Trump was blabbing his orange lips about some 15 minute test. Where is it?
We have the best healthcare in the world. You want to see chaos? Check out Spain and Italy and their universal healthcare systems. No chaos here besides are very own chaos.
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Dirty fng Chinese - eat bats, rats, cats, dogs, monkeys, etc - are communists, lied about this and the world has to deal with it.
We need to decouple entirely from their pos country.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/03/30/the-coronavirus-is-becoming-a-public-relations-disaster-for-china/#6639987f43f2
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This is great.
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Dirty fng Chinese - eat bats, rats, cats, dogs, monkeys, etc - are communists, lied about this and the world has to deal with it.
We need to decouple entirely from their pos country.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/03/30/the-coronavirus-is-becoming-a-public-relations-disaster-for-china/#6639987f43f2
BINGO! *but we can still watch super cool Kung Fu movies.
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https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=ce2a6236f164728fb6d24805bf82b15d0c8377e6-1585674815-0-AfooL5HzWvtLpiAIkpL_KsWSIXcaiXLokB0kypgRLrc-IbGB9fR_D3bfuatqFYxywySHcm_Iz4Nv-rNGNHA7rg_Eb_su6nNbM1kXqrZahkM-BrkL6AO6egR7B4Fx1BlG5GCEN7nRvl9y91McNYESwLd405WZPjlAzfwT-z7ju0o15evGLljhAAMLSjfS0Ja7BD7A9oPUDGbwF5ZW9rZeVW9qexaULz0lm7qEpN95oJIDxf9kTHGrXjf4ZZL3rq97Q4Al-8D3BPr-jdHdAp2PS3Ab9RDHhXu38Q8RC-oLBcBb9BFUiAbACUR3u9-Fwys6Hs60dlye3jPDzJlanep_c9eibdbF2OukdcV8HtgJrI40&fbclid=IwAR245kd9xUt-Z27iIoFki3QEhqJMv08Z2NLt_6gyjtfOr8YmhOB7PWjwV04
Seasonal deaths overall are the same as previous years apart from Italy which is listed as high, not "very high"
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Trump is a stupid person
People the vote for him are stupider
Should we point out the irony? ::)
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For dearth, Straw and all the other cuckodiles.
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Should we point out the irony? ::)
:D
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For dearth, Straw and all the other cuckodiles.
👍🏻 - Spot on as Usual Scott.
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👍🏻 - Spot on as Usual Scott.
Thanks, brother. Those people just hate Freedom. You and your family and friends keep putting the great back in Great Britain! ;D
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For dearth, Straw and all the other cuckodiles.
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Why the fuck is it taking 5 days. If she really has it, then 5 days from now it might be too late to reverse some of the issues. What the fuck is wrong with our medical system. People who want to claim we have the best in the world need to shut the fuck up. Our country can't even handle 100000 sick patients without fucking chaos.
Trump was blabbing his orange lips about some 15 minute test. Where is it?
I have no idea why it takes five days to get test results. Perhaps the labs are swamped. I'm grateful that her doctor was able to test her the same day as she found out about having been exposed. Unfortunately, all of us here, in the house may have been exposed to the virus, since symptoms, if you have them, don't show up right away. We've been pretty careful about keeping everything sanitary around the place. One can only hope that this has been enough.
Trump says a lot of stuff without thinking. People should be used to it. He's not alone. Politicians are known for telling people what they want to hear. And most people prefer good news over bad. This explains why folks believe the U.S. has best medical system in the world. Those of us who have family and friends in other developed countries know otherwise. Any healthcare system that only serves some of the people (usually those who can afford it) is not as good as one that is there for everyone. My son and family live in Germany. So far, they've handled the novel coronavirus pandemic more efficiently than the U.S. has.
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I have no idea why it takes five days to get test results. Perhaps the labs are swamped. I'm grateful that her doctor was able to test her the same day as she found out about having been exposed. Unfortunately, all of us here, in the house may have been exposed to the virus, since symptoms, if you have them, don't show up right away. We've been pretty careful about keeping everything sanitary around the place. One can only hope that this has been enough.
Trump says a lot of stuff without thinking. People should be used to it. He's not alone. Politicians are known for telling people what they want to hear. And most people prefer good news over bad. This explains why folks believe the U.S. has best medical system in the world. Those of us who have family and friends in other developed countries know otherwise. Any healthcare system that only serves some of the people (usually those who can afford it) is not as good as one that is there for everyone. My son and family live in Germany. So far, they've handled the novel coronavirus pandemic more efficiently than the U.S. has.
Most of the problems we've experienced are because of government red tape and overreach laws like not allowing doctors and nurses to cross state borders. If we had state run health care in the U.S. things would be much much worse.
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35 doctors and nurses arrive in St Kitts from Cuba to help with the Covid19 outbreak
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/St-Kitts-and-Nevis-Thanks-Cuba-for-Its-Aid-Against-Coronavirus-20200330-0011.html
Current cases 8 Death toll 0
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Most of the problems we've experienced are because of government red tape and overreach laws like not allowing doctors and nurses to cross state borders. If we had state run health care in the U.S. things would be much much worse.
Interesting. You are apparently better informed than many of us. Are you a layperson or do you work in a government job or a medical or scientific profession? In otherwords, is this just your opinion, something you've read or heard or do you have actual facts to back this up?
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How about you learn a new tune. This one is getting really old. Have you ever thought about not making or following threads about people's sexuality? Or at least not ragging on about it when someone else does?
Case in point. I responded to a direct question someone asked me. You weren't a part of our conversation and yet here you are horning in on it. Something you do fairly often. But maybe you haven't notice that.
You are a fairly competent Getbig historian. Maybe you could tell me how many of these threads which seem to trouble you so much I've actually started. See how that works? But hey, don't put yourself out. Wouldn't want anything gay to rub off on you. Because if it did, you'd have to kill yourself.
Why should I learn a new "tune" when my "tune" is right on the money. It's old to you because it's true and you don't like hearing it. How you shove your gay and sexual agenda down everyone's throats here. You think it's a coincidence that the only gay person that the majority of the people on this board have an issue with is with YOU!
Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't talking to me and I just "horned" in. What a hypocritical prissy little phag you are. Inserting yourself into everything that goes on here is what you mainly do. And this is a public forum. People bring up subjects or discuss topics and everybody is free to jump in. What a crybaby soggy, old, queer you are. I thought you said you were having fun with me? Sure you are. That's what everybody says when they are getting their ass handed to them which I do with you on a regular basis.
And you want me to go back and list all the offensive posts you've made on this board? Really?
Like I always say when you get called out by others for your perversions, you are just absolutely clueless. You really genuinely have no idea why the majority of people here find you repulsive. You think you can casually and blithely talk about sucking a cock through a hole in the wall or not wanting to spend time with your dying wife going through dialysis and not get judged on that.
Clueless.
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Whoa whoa whoa- Pellius, I think this old dude is coming on to you! Holy shit, he really is bisexual!
And e-grinding on getbig as it were hehe.
I just threw up in my mouth.
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The orange turd favorite CEO tells you to read the bible. Any Jesus lovers here?
Viral virus briefing: Where science meets all things Trump
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/viral-virus-briefing-where-science-meets-all-things-trump/ar-BB11YjUT
Executives step up to say what their companies are doing about producing and shipping critical medical supplies. Praise for Trump's leadership is standard in their brief remarks. This is a president who wants a public display of appreciation and has said he may not call people back if he doesn't get that.
We hear some basics about the world: “Think of it: 151 countries. Somebody said to me today ... they didn’t know that we had that many countries. A hundred and fifty-one countries. That’s something.”
We hear a series of unverified statements: about an unidentified New York hospital he's been told is hoarding masks, an uncorroborated theory that the fatality rate in the U.S. is lower than in other countries, his conviction that the speedy new tests will be “a whole new ballgame.”
He trots out the rhetorical bronco, saying some aides wanted him to just hang on and ride it out until the crisis passed but he felt he should do more.
Trump's doggedly positive spin, evident for several months, begins to fray when he announces a month-long extension of social distancing guidelines that were to expire Monday.
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I just threw up in my mouth.
Careful what you say, you could be turning the old douche on :-\
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Most of the problems we've experienced are because of government red tape and overreach laws like not allowing doctors and nurses to cross state borders. If we had state run health care in the U.S. things would be much much worse.
Ask yourself, how can Singapore,Japan,Australia & others can organise themselves & U.S. is so screwed ............ ::)
Others have provinces & states borders too !.
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35 doctors and nurses arrive in St Kitts from Cuba to help with the Covid19 outbreak
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/St-Kitts-and-Nevis-Thanks-Cuba-for-Its-Aid-Against-Coronavirus-20200330-0011.html
Current cases 8 Death toll 0
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So far no Cuban 'BioHazard experts' on Pitcairn Island, Chad & Norfolk Island :D
Penniless Cuban health system will save you, get real !.
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What should I learn a new "tune" when my "tune" is right on the money. It's old to you because it's true and you don't like hearing it. How you shove your gay and sexual agenda down everyone's throats here. You think it's a coincidence that the only gay person that the majority of the people on this board have an issue with is with YOU!
Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't talking to me and I just "horned" in. What a hypocritical prissy little phag you are. Inserting yourself into everything that goes on here is what you mainly do. And this is a public forum. People bring up subjects or discuss topics and everybody is free to jump in. What a crybaby soggy, old, queer you are. I thought you said you were having fun with me? Sure you are. That's what everybody says when they are getting their ass handed to them which I do with you on a regular basis.
And you want me to go back and list all the offensive posts you've made on this board? Really?
Like I always say when you get called out by others for your perversions, you are just absolutely clueless. You really genuinely have no idea why the majority of people here find you repulsive. You think you can casually and blithely talk about sucking a cock through a hole in the wall or not wanting to spend time with your dying wife going through dialysis and not get judged on that.
Clueless.
Whether it's blithely eating cheeseburgers with homeless dong in ones face or blithely sucking dudes off through a wall with a hole, we all have our things. Can't you two bury the hatchet and move on to greener pastures?
In case I'm not laying it on thick enough, the use of the word "blithely" really tickled my fancy.
;D
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Two Hunters, Looking For Food, Were Shot Dead After Coronavirus Layoffs
Two men who were found shot dead Saturday on a rural road in northeastern Alberta were out hunting to feed their families following a layoff connected to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Jake Sansom, 39 and his uncle Morris Cardinal, 57, were found dead on Saturday on a rural road north of the small town of Glendon by someone driving by. According to a police report, the two men were found outside of their truck with gunshot wounds, and their deaths are being treated as “suspicious.”
According to the Edmonton Journal and social media posts by family and friends, Sansom and Cardinal had spent Friday hunting to put food on the table for their families and others in the community, after Sansom was laid off from his job as a heavy-duty mechanic amid the coronavirus pandemic. Both men were of Indigenous ancestry and could therefore hunt out of season.
One person posted photos of the two hunting together on Friday and said they had already bagged one moose, which they had left with one of Cardinal’s family members, and were on the hunt for another.
“You did what you have done all your life and took it to a family in need and left half your moose there and were bringing home the rest to feed many other families,” said the post.
The family released statements about Sansom and Cardinal but are asking for distance from the media. According to the family, Sansom, a married father of three who worked as a volunteer firefighter, was a “gentle giant.”
“All the kids in the community loved him and everyone knew who he was, knew he had a heart of gold and would give the shirt off his back for anyone,” the statement said.
Morris worked as a tree feller for years and leaves behind five young grandkids and three stepchildren.
“Morris was the most generous, hilarious man with a heart of gold and everyone’s best friend and the life of the party, always,” reads the family’s statement.
A GoFundMe page has been set up for Sarah Sansom, Sansom’s wife, and has raised over $20,000 at the time of publication.
The RCMP major crimes unit is requesting any trail, dashboard, and surveillance camera footage from that area from 8 p.m. Friday to 4 a.m. Saturday. An RCMP spokesperson told VICE they are awaiting the results of an autopsy.
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/akw994/two-hunters-looking-for-food-were-shot-dead-after-coronavirus-layoffs?utm_content=1585681219&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR2XeI7nZ1wZBiycpS7dmlw8cAomV3NdRHnTNvWJdeJjVNVVLqRFnNmyrS8
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Next two weeks are supposed to be painful. Estimated a minimum of 100,000 will die from this virus. Can't wait to see all the people who nominate their parents for the good of the economy.
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Careful what you say, you could be turning the old douche on :-\
LMAO! Point taken.
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Whether it's blithely eating cheeseburgers with homeless dong in ones face or blithely sucking dudes off through a wall with a hole, we all have our things. Can't you two bury the hatchet and move on to greener pastures?
In case I'm not laying it on thick enough, the use of the word "blithely" really tickled my fancy.
;D
For God sakes, don't diminish my pain! It wasn't just a cheeseburger, it was a QUARTER POUNDER WITH CHEESE! That's over three times the meat of a mere cheeseburger.
I pick my battles judiciously. If there's enough meat in the equation, I am willing to fight to death.
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For God sakes, don't diminish my pain! It wasn't just a cheeseburger, it was a QUARTER POUNDER WITH CHEESE! That's over three times the meat of a mere cheeseburger.
I pick my battles judiciously. If there's enough meat in the equation, I am willing to fight to death.
Please forgive my ignorance. The covid has me not on my game.
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So far no Cuban 'BioHazard experts' on Pitcairn Island, Chad & Norfolk Island :D
Penniless Cuban health system will save you, get real !.
Cuban doctors are poorly trained in comparison to American or Western levels, due to shortage of modern medicines and modern equipment and lack of access and experience with the latest technology and techniques.
They are often sent to South Africa.
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35 doctors and nurses arrive in St Kitts from Cuba to help with the Covid19 outbreak
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/St-Kitts-and-Nevis-Thanks-Cuba-for-Its-Aid-Against-Coronavirus-20200330-0011.html
Current cases 8 Death toll 0
???
Thank God. I fear for Bertil Fox health.
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Ask yourself, how can Singapore,Japan,Australia & others can organise themselves & U.S. is so screwed ............ ::)
Others have provinces & states borders too !.
Ask yourself how many people do those countries have compared to the U.S. China has over a billion and it was a mess. It's much easier treating a small area and/or population.
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Ask yourself how many people do those countries have compared to the U.S. China has over a billion and it was a mess. It's much easier treating a small area and/or population.
China cases 81,554 deaths 3312 population 1,408,526,449
USA cases 188,647. deaths 4059. population. 331,002,651
???
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If the lockdown doesn't work, and there's no vaccine soon, we're just going to have to go back to work and accept that our chances of dying or getting ill are higher than before.
Either way, even if the disease passes, the economic damage locally has been immense and time will tell whether the country will ever be able to fully recover. Businesses are closing, unemployment will be up, and the currency is now considerably weaker.
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If the lockdown doesn't work, and there's no vaccine soon, we're just going to have to go back to work and accept that our chances of dying or getting ill are higher than before.
Either way, even if the disease passes, the economic damage locally has been immense and time will tell whether the country will ever be able to fully recover. Businesses are closing, unemployment will be up, and the currency is now considerably weaker.
the chances of you dying of coronavirus as opposed to something else are around 444-1
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China cases 81,554 deaths 3312 population 1,408,526,449
USA cases 188,647. deaths 4059. population. 331,002,651
???
The chinks are not telling the truth
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The chinks are not telling the truth
and the USA is?
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and the USA is?
Moreso than the communist chinese filthy bat, cat , rat, dog, eating 3rd worlders.
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Moreso than the communist chinese filthy bat, cat , rat, dog, eating 3rd worlders.
You are aware thats exactly what Chinese people think about Americans...
Propaganda really works..
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If the lockdown doesn't work, and there's no vaccine soon, we're just going to have to go back to work and accept that our chances of dying or getting ill are higher than before.
Either way, even if the disease passes, the economic damage locally has been immense and time will tell whether the country will ever be able to fully recover. Businesses are closing, unemployment will be up, and the currency is now considerably weaker.
Has a safe and fully effective vaccine ever been developed for a novel- coronavirus?
Also, herd immunity will be more of a nation saver in the end hence why people should be wearing masks out in public.
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the chances of you dying of coronavirus as opposed to something else are around 444-1
I'm more concerned about the long-term economic damage, I'm aware the chances of dying from this or being in critical condition are extremely low.
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Has a safe and fully effective vaccine ever been developed for a novel- coronavirus?
Also, herd immunity will be more of a nation saver in the end hence why people should be wearing masks out in public.
Agreed.
I just hope the massive economic damage from these lockdowns was worth it.
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Has a safe and fully effective vaccine ever been developed for a novel- coronavirus?
Also, herd immunity will be more of a nation saver in the end hence why people should be wearing masks out in public.
information on Herd Immunity
Unfortunately, a very rough estimate suggests that we will only reach herd immunity to Covid-19 when approximately 60% of the population is immune (and remember that immunity is currently only reached by getting the infection as we have no vaccine!). The major downside is that this will mean that in the UK alone at least 36 million people will need to be infected and recover. It is almost impossible to predict what that will mean in terms of human costs but we are conservatively looking at 10,000s deaths, and possibly at 100,000s of death. The only way to make this work would be to spread out these millions of cases over a relatively long period of time so that the NHS does not get overwhelmed.
the above seems to be the plan in the USA and the UK
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information on Herd Immunity
the above seems to be the plan in the USA and the UK
Fuck the Chinese & their Man Made Virus - They Should Be Made To Pay Very very Dearly.
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Interesting video on the source of Corona virus and the CCP's role.
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(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cls71E91FfOJqo2QPJ3RTg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTEzMjQuNTcxMDg1NzgyODQzNQ--/https://media.zenfs.com/EN/business_insider_articles_888/bb461205aa3afbf45a07bbd1b2910c23)
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Agreed.
I just hope the massive economic damage from these lockdowns was worth it.
If we shut down the economy every winter we would save thousands of lives from the flu. If we banned cars we would save even more lives. It's never "worth it" especially not to combat a virus that kills hardly anyone. How are we so many months into this and people are still buying into the manufactured crisis? The hospitals aren't even overwhelmed, we have had worse flu seasons than this. Clown world to the extreme.
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Let me get this straight, unless the Coronavirus kills more than any other virus in the history of mankind, it's not really a problem and nothing should be done to it.
Does that pretty much sums up your opinions?
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Let me get this straight, unless the Coronavirus kills more than any other virus in the history of mankind, it's not really a problem and nothing should be done to it.
Does that pretty much sums up your opinions?
Bro just collect your checks and relax.
We all know Covid19 is a big problem, just look at how many more people are dying compared to this time last year.
Normally nations do everything they can to save an economy, this virus is so devastating everyone has closed shop and called it a day.
Not even cancer can do that.
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Bro just collect your checks and relax.
We all know Covid19 is a big problem, just look at how many more people are dying compared to this time last year.
Normally nations do everything they can to save an economy, this virus is so devastating everyone has closed shop and called it a day.
Not even cancer can do that.
no one was counting last year and posting it on the news every day
500,000 people a year die in the UK every year, thats never on the news
I have already given you the stats that overall mortality is the same as it has been for previous years..
Imagine the late news every night
"and finally 1369 people died today..."
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I still think we're dealing more with the potential no of deaths not the actual no of deaths.
But then, no number of deaths matters to you guys, it isn't a problem, and it cannot ever be a problem.
Am I wrong? Show me a number you're uncomfortable with.
How many potential deaths in the US in the next 3 months would you NOT be ok with and would have you agree that actions need to be taken.
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no one was counting last year and posing it on the news every day
500,000 people a year die in the UK every year, thats never on the news
I have already given you them stats that overall mortality is the same as it has been for previous years..
It’s really fascinating when you just look at the facts.
Here in the states we are still talking about not overwhelming the hospitals, which is good, but no one is able to get the equipment they need.
This virus is so devastating that it’s an emergency shut down of everything but we can’t figure out how to have a couple of production facilities stay in business and produce what we a actually need.....
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It’s really fascinating when you just look at the facts.
Here in the states we are still talking about not overwhelming the hospitals, which is good, but no one is able to get the equipment they need.
This virus is so devastating that it’s an emergency shut down of everything but we can’t figure out how to have a couple of production facilities stay in business and produce what we a actually need.....
That’s pretty Fcuking Bad !!
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I still think we're dealing more with the potential no of deaths not the actual no of deaths.
But then, no number of deaths matters to you guys, it isn't a problem, and it cannot ever be a problem.
Am I wrong? Show me a number you're uncomfortable with.
How many potential deaths in the US in the next 3 months would you NOT be ok with and would have you agree that actions need to be taken.
I don’t think anyone should die. Ever.
If we ban guns, for everyone: civilians, law enforcement and military that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban automobiles, again for everyone, that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban unhealthy food, like fried chicken dinner, deaths will be lowered. I wish we could ban heart disease and obesity. And Cancer.
Oh and abortions.
The real problem, chickendinner, is that the public and our leadership are being misled and manipulated. If the decision is to shut down the economy for the betterment of the country that is fine.
But we can’t do that and then have the Governor of New York say he can’t the respirators he needs FROM CHINA, the very country that introduced the disease, because he is bidding against 49 other states.
We also can’t read about an American company like Starbucks flying leadership into China to negotiate opening 6000 new stores while this is all going on.
So if you really think this is still about preserving lives there is nothing that anyone will say that can change your mind.
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I still think we're dealing more with the potential no of deaths not the actual no of deaths.
But then, no number of deaths matters to you guys, it isn't a problem, and it cannot ever be a problem.
Am I wrong? Show me a number you're uncomfortable with.
How many potential deaths in the US in the next 3 months would you NOT be ok with and would have you agree that actions need to be taken.
Death is inevitable, its just what you die with thats different
Im appalled at the amount of deaths through suicide of veterans
Are all these deaths we are having through Covid unavoidable, no, probably not, are some, probably , but that doesnt lie with the people, not in the UK anyway, its the dithering fucking government
This is the UK approach to the Covid crisis
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I don’t think anyone should die. Ever.
If we ban guns, for everyone: civilians, law enforcement and military that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban automobiles, again for everyone, that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban unhealthy food, like fried chicken dinner, deaths will be lowered. I wish we could ban heart disease and obesity. And Cancer.
Oh and abortions.
The real problem, chickendinner, is that the public and our leadership are being misled and manipulated. If the decision is to shut down the economy for the betterment of the country that is fine.
But we can’t do that and then have the Governor of New York say he can’t the respirators he needs FROM CHINA, the very country that introduced the disease, because he is bidding against 49 other states.
We also can’t read about an American company like Starbucks flying leadership into China to negotiate opening 6000 new stores while this is all going on.
So if you really think this is still about preserving lives there is nothing that anyone will say that can change your mind.
Ban everything & you know what - we’re still all going to die some younger than others
That’s just a simple unavoidable Fact.
As to what why’s & wherefore’s of China Virus & This Almost Martial Law Type Lockdown of
People is Really all about ?- That’s Something that is Very undetermined & disputable according
To who you listen to or what you Read.
Personally- Something seems a little off & things don’t quite add up - Then again I could be Wrong.
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There's always a conspiracy waiting around the corner with you guys.
And for some reason only you are smart enough to see it.
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no one was counting last year and posting it on the news every day
500,000 people a year die in the UK every year, thats never on the news
I have already given you the stats that overall mortality is the same as it has been for previous years..
Imagine the late news every night
"and finally 1369 people died today..."
Sorry bro, I was being sarcastic.
I was assuming everyone in this thread had been reading your posts.
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You are aware thats exactly what Chinese people think about Americans...
Propaganda really works..
I beg to differ. I’ve been to China many times on business: Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Leshan, Tangshan, etc. Gotten to know many people there. I have only heard good things about the USA and some pretty nasty things about the Chinese government.
I gave a tech talk at CASIC, a Chinese aerospace institute. I dealt directly with members of the Communist Party leadership. Some of the slimiest bastards I have ever encountered. Contrast that with my dealings in Washington DC with members of the Executive branch - no comparison at all. While US politicians may be dirtbags at times the leadership of the CCP is downright evil.
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There's always a conspiracy waiting around the corner with you guys.
And for some reason only you are smart enough to see it.
Good point. There’s nothing unusual going on at all.
I hope you live forever!
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Moreso than the communist chinese filthy bat, cat , rat, dog, eating 3rd worlders.
Do you hear yourself? Grading us on a Chinese curve? Wtf happened to America leading the way. We've been falling behind the world for going on 50 years now.
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WHO helped China with coverup
(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/1585188963-5e7c1063f0017.jpg?itok=losWaUqp)
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Interesting video on the source of Corona virus and the CCP's role.
I had posted as much in another thread, though what I had heard was that covid19 was created artificially I have no idea if that's actually true and it doesn't really matter anyway.
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Last I heard it escaped Hangar 18
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I had posted as much in another thread, though what I had heard was that covid19 was created artificially I have no idea if that's actually true and it doesn't really matter anyway.
Watch Palumboism’s video. It’s good and informative
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I beg to differ. I’ve been to China many times on business: Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Leshan, Tangshan, etc. Gotten to know many people there. I have only heard good things about the USA and some pretty nasty things about the Chinese government.
I gave a tech talk at CASIC, a Chinese aerospace institute. I dealt directly with members of the Communist Party leadership. Some of the slimiest bastards I have ever encountered. Contrast that with my dealings in Washington DC with members of the Executive branch - no comparison at all. While US politicians may be dirtbags at times the leadership of the CCP is downright evil.
I've never come across anyone who's done business or spent any considerable amount of time in China that has anything good to say about their government.
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Why should I learn a new "tune" when my "tune" is right on the money. It's old to you because it's true and you don't like hearing it. How you shove your gay and sexual agenda down everyone's throats here. You think it's a coincidence that the only gay person that the majority of the people on this board have an issue with is with YOU!
Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't talking to me and I just "horned" in. What a hypocritical prissy little phag you are. Inserting yourself into everything that goes on here is what you mainly do. And this is a public forum. People bring up subjects or discuss topics and everybody is free to jump in. What a crybaby soggy, old, queer you are. I thought you said you were having fun with me? Sure you are. That's what everybody says when they are getting their ass handed to them which I do with you on a regular basis.
And you want me to go back and list all the offensive posts you've made on this board? Really?
Like I always say when you get called out by others for your perversions, you are just absolutely clueless. You really genuinely have no idea why the majority of people here find you repulsive. You think you can casually and blithely talk about sucking a cock through a hole in the wall or not wanting to spend time with your dying wife going through dialysis and not get judged on that.
Clueless.
Bravo. ::)
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I just threw up in my mouth.
I hope you gag on your own vomit.
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Has a safe and fully effective vaccine ever been developed for a novel- coronavirus?
Also, herd immunity will be more of a nation saver in the end hence why people should be wearing masks out in public.
No vaccine has been developed yet as best as I know. I read in the newspaper today that the virologists are working on this via a test methodology for those who have recovered or were absent symptoms. When they get this worked out, it will be a game changer.
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Let me get this straight, unless the Coronavirus kills more than any other virus in the history of mankind, it's not really a problem and nothing should be done to it.
Does that pretty much sums up your opinions?
One gets that impression from some folks. It's a ridiculous way for anyone too look at this pandemic.
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I beg to differ. I’ve been to China many times on business: Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Leshan, Tangshan, etc. Gotten to know many people there. I have only heard good things about the USA and some pretty nasty things about the Chinese government.
I gave a tech talk at CASIC, a Chinese aerospace institute. I dealt directly with members of the Communist Party leadership. Some of the slimiest bastards I have ever encountered. Contrast that with my dealings in Washington DC with members of the Executive branch - no comparison at all. While US politicians may be dirtbags at times the leadership of the CCP is downright evil.
Interesting. Do you plan on continuing your business dealings with the Communist Party leadership in China?
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Do you hear yourself? Grading us on a Chinese curve? Wtf happened to America leading the way. We've been falling behind the world for going on 50 years now.
Soul Crusher's views get more insane with each of his posts. I suspect he's completely losing it.
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Soul Crusher's views get more insane with each of his posts. I suspect he's completely losing it.
Keep carrying water for communist Chinese. F off
Honestly - you liberal cucks are sinking to new lows w this. Disgraceful.
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Keep carrying water for communist Chinese. F off
Honestly - you liberal cucks are sinking to new lows w this. Disgraceful.
See....there's no middle ground with you. It's either someone is 100% for or they are against something 100%. I actually give very little thought to the communist Chinese. There are other more pressing things to think about. Like staying alive.
Read your own posts from years ago, you were much less radical than you are now. Maybe you just don't see it.
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60 Minutes Australia:
Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world. She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.
https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449 (https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449)
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60 Minutes Australia:
Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world. She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.
https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449 (https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449)
RIP
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No vaccine has been developed yet as best as I know. I read in the newspaper today that the virologists are working on this via a test methodology for those who have recovered or were absent symptoms. When they get this worked out, it will be a game changer.
WTF's a newspaper?
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Whistleblowing coronavirus doctor at Wuhan hospital mysteriously vanishes
By Amanda Woods
April 1, 2020
A Chinese doctor who claimed her bosses tried to silence her early warnings about coronavirus appears to have disappeared — stirring fears that she was detained, according to new reports. Ai Fen had pointed out cases of the illness to colleagues at Wuhan Central Hospital, eight of whom were reprimanded themselves.
“Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world,” the outlet tweeted. “She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.”
In a now-deleted essay published in China’s People (Renwu) magazine titled “The one who supplied the whistle,” Ai detailed her boss’ efforts to silence her, RFA reported.
In the article, Ai said the reprimand came after she took a photo of a patient’s test results and circled the positive “SARS coronavirus” result in red.
China has been accused of attempting to cover up the coronavirus outbreak before the crisis escalated.
Back on Dec. 30, Dr. Li Wenliang — who worked with Ai and who died in early February — sent out a warning over the WeChat messaging app advising fellow med school grads to wear protective clothing to avoid infection after several patients from a local seafood market exhibited symptoms similar to SARS.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/whistleblowing-coronavirus-doctor-mysteriously-vanishes/ (https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/whistleblowing-coronavirus-doctor-mysteriously-vanishes/)
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WTF's a newspaper?
Apparently, it is something you've never read. ;D
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60 Minutes Australia:
Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world. She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.
https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449 (https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449)
Didn't some big time billionaire disappear over there a few weeks back for calling out the lying government?
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See....there's no middle ground with you. It's either someone is 100% for or they are against something 100%. I actually give very little thought to the communist Chinese. There are other more pressing things to think about. Like staying alive.
Read your own posts from years ago, you were much less radical than you are now. Maybe you just don't see it.
Prime if China didn’t screw the whole world with this virus your main concern wouldn’t be whether your daughter was sick and was potentially putting everyone in the house at risk.
I think you’re a better guy than you get credit for on here and I know you enjoy stirring the pot but sometimes you’re a little peculiar.
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See....there's no middle ground with you. It's either someone is 100% for or they are against something 100%. I actually give very little thought to the communist Chinese. There are other more pressing things to think about. Like staying alive.
Read your own posts from years ago, you were much less radical than you are now. Maybe you just don't see it.
It’s pathetic how ignorant you are even now. China lied to the world. And your deranged TDS - you
Just can’t escape it’s grasp.
F off w this crap. Disgusting how you left wing freaks carry communist Chinese lies. F off.
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I still think we're dealing more with the potential no of deaths not the actual no of deaths.
But then, no number of deaths matters to you guys, it isn't a problem, and it cannot ever be a problem.
Am I wrong? Show me a number you're uncomfortable with.
How many potential deaths in the US in the next 3 months would you NOT be ok with and would have you agree that actions need to be taken.
That is not a fair question as you are asking someone to approve a certain number of deaths. The fact is that there is always a trade-off. If we lowered the speed limit to 25 mph and force car manufacturers to build cars like tanks then absolutely millions of lives would be saved. But we don't do that because the economic cost to society would not be worth. So it would be like me asking you that if you don't agree with these new standards then you don't care about human life. Because the suffering and deaths due to poverty are not as quantifiable as something like a pandemic it's always easy to make this kind of argument.
How many people that are forced to be homeless and no longer able to support themselves and their families are you comfortable with? How many businesses that fail and therefore unable to provide jobs and products our society needs are you comfortable with?
All of life are a series of trade-offs and it's rarely between good and bad but between bad and worse.
How about you? Do you still have a job? If so, lucky you. Screw those who don't. If you've been laid off and have no income coming in how long do you think you can last before you start thinking about your life and the other lives that are in your situation?
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It’s really fascinating when you just look at the facts.
Here in the states we are still talking about not overwhelming the hospitals, which is good, but no one is able to get the equipment they need.
This virus is so devastating that it’s an emergency shut down of everything but we can’t figure out how to have a couple of production facilities stay in business and produce what we a actually need.....
Haven't you been following the news? That's exactly what we are doing. The auto industry are retooling to produce more ventilators. Others are retooling to produce face masks. I just saw on TV that a company that had to shut down found that they have to products to make hand sanitizers.
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I don’t think anyone should die. Ever.
If we ban guns, for everyone: civilians, law enforcement and military that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban automobiles, again for everyone, that will cut down on deaths.
If we ban unhealthy food, like fried chicken dinner, deaths will be lowered. I wish we could ban heart disease and obesity. And Cancer.
Oh and abortions.
The real problem, chickendinner, is that the public and our leadership are being misled and manipulated. If the decision is to shut down the economy for the betterment of the country that is fine.
But we can’t do that and then have the Governor of New York say he can’t the respirators he needs FROM CHINA, the very country that introduced the disease, because he is bidding against 49 other states.
We also can’t read about an American company like Starbucks flying leadership into China to negotiate opening 6000 new stores while this is all going on.
So if you really think this is still about preserving lives there is nothing that anyone will say that can change your mind.
Good points but it is about saving lives which is why the cure can't be worse than the disease.
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It’s pathetic how ignorant you are even now. China lied to the world. And your deranged TDS - you
Just can’t escape it’s grasp.
F off w this crap. Disgusting how you left wing freaks carry communist Chinese lies. F off.
Brutal meltdown over the internet.
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Where it came from...
Direct link:
https://youtu.be/eJsmG4rxCSw (https://youtu.be/eJsmG4rxCSw)
"Chinese scientific paper has been ignored, we now know the virus escaped from a Wuhan lab…" - Tucker Carlson
The coronavirus came from either the Wuhan CDC or Wuhan Institute of Virology. The study concluded the deadly virus came out of local laboratories in Hubei Province. The smoking gun in the study is the link to horseshoe bats which are not sold in local markets and not native to Wuhan.
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I beg to differ. I’ve been to China many times on business: Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Leshan, Tangshan, etc. Gotten to know many people there. I have only heard good things about the USA and some pretty nasty things about the Chinese government.
I gave a tech talk at CASIC, a Chinese aerospace institute. I dealt directly with members of the Communist Party leadership. Some of the slimiest bastards I have ever encountered. Contrast that with my dealings in Washington DC with members of the Executive branch - no comparison at all. While US politicians may be dirtbags at times the leadership of the CCP is downright evil.
Exactly! That's "classic joswift" to make moral equivalences with issues he knows nothing about.
He has zero experience and knowledge about China and the difference between its people and its government. The difference between Shanghai and Beijing and the majority of rural China. Yet, feels qualified to speak with authority in his customary arrogance and conceit, and exaggerated sense of innate brilliance.
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Haven't you been following the news? That's exactly what we are doing. The auto industry are retooling to produce more ventilators. Others are retooling to produce face masks. I just saw on TV that a company that had to shut down found that they have to products to make hand sanitizers.
Good points but it is about saving lives which is why the cure can't be worse than the disease.
Pellius I honestly have not turned on the actual news since last week. I can’t deal with the conflicting/misinformation and other nonsense.
I am glad we are actually producing the equipment we need, I read that Fanatics stopped making baseball jerseys and they were making masks and scrubs. But I have also read where we are still dealing with China on getting supplies. I get it, they’re needed and beggars can’t be choosers but it’s still infuriating.
And I agree the cure can’t be worse than the disease, but if we as a country have decided on a course of action that is for everyone’s benefit we need to make sure EVERYONE, poor and rich, insignificant and “important”, is following the same rules.
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I had posted as much in another thread, though what I had heard was that covid19 was created artificially I have no idea if that's actually true and it doesn't really matter anyway.
I think it does matter. If true it puts the spotlight more on China and just what are they up to. Knowing the truth of the matter is never a bad thing.
A short segment in this article with Tucker Carlson posing some interesting questions.
https://www.blabber.buzz/conservative-news/828466-tucker-carlson-airs-report-claiming-coronavirus-probably-orriginated-from-a-laboratory-in-wuhan-special?utm_source=c-alrt&utm_medium=c-alrt-email&utm_term=c-alrt-Yahoo&utm_content=3DwlYw-nbPRU93lfLEi1tR0wS
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I hope you gag on your own vomit.
Nice fantasy. How does it compare to the times you've gagged on another man's cock pumping his man-goo down your willing and eager throat?
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1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.
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China is exporting millions of cheap surgical mask !.
But is trying to get hands on high quality medical equipment's from Australia since February 2020.
Aust Post & Customs stop-ed hundreds of those parcel mailed for China by "loyal Aussie Chings".
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1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.
Did you think they’d be going down?
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Did you think they’d be going down?
How long do you reckon they will keep doubling?
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1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.
Thanks, abacus
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How long do you reckon they will keep doubling?
Well I reckon based on the bell curve, exponentially until we are all dead in a month.
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Fake news.
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Pellius I honestly have not turned on the actual news since last week. I can’t deal with the conflicting/misinformation and other nonsense.
I am glad we are actually producing the equipment we need, I read that Fanatics stopped making baseball jerseys and they were making masks and scrubs. But I have also read where we are still dealing with China on getting supplies. I get it, they’re needed and beggars can’t be choosers but it’s still infuriating.
And I agree the cure can’t be worse than the disease, but if we as a country have decided on a course of action that is for everyone’s benefit we need to make sure EVERYONE, poor and rich, insignificant and “important”, is following the same rules.
I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?
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Fake news.
American Fake News media somehow reminds me of baby crying Mike Mentzer !.
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Ted Cruz, Maria Bartiromo discuss whether the coronavirus originated in Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory
https://noqreport.com/2020/04/01/ted-cruz-maria-bartiromo-discuss-whether-the-coronavirus-originated-in-wuhan-national-biosafety-laboratory/ (https://noqreport.com/2020/04/01/ted-cruz-maria-bartiromo-discuss-whether-the-coronavirus-originated-in-wuhan-national-biosafety-laboratory/)
Direct Link:
https://youtu.be/jlhfjwCzYIQ (https://youtu.be/jlhfjwCzYIQ)
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....meanwhile
(https://i.insider.com/5e591edafee23d3a72511343?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trump-has-contradicted-himself-in-his-own-words-on-the-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB122Fry
How Trump has contradicted himself, in his own words, on the coronavirus crisis
It appeared to be an attempt to rewrite history -- his own.
President Donald Trump took a newly dire tone at the latest White House briefing and contradicted many of his previous assessments on how he's talked about and handled the novel coronavirus.
It came as his White House medical experts unveiled their own death projections for the first time, revealing that they estimate the virus will kill 100,000 to 240,000 Americans at a minimum -- and only if the nation practices strict social distancing.
And that's being called the "best-case scenario."
a man wearing a suit and tie: President Donald Trump speaks during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in the Brady Briefing Room at the White House, March 31, 2020, in Washington, DC.© Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images President Donald Trump speaks during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in the Brady Briefing Room at the White House, March 31, 2020, in Washington, DC.
MORE: Trump's coronavirus team to reveal sobering data that drove decision to extend restrictions
Trump said the prospect of 100,000 deaths was "sobering" but then went on to call it "a very low number," compared to the 2.2. million it could have been if the U.S. did "ride it out" without mitigation efforts -- as he said some of his "friends" suggested. He cast it as a success of sorts.
While the coronavirus may have silently spread across the country for the past ten weeks, President Trump has insisted that the virus is "under control," and later suggested the economic fallout will be worse than the death toll.
News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
Trump on Tuesday defended any prior rosy assessments about the coronavirus, describing himself as a "cheerleader for the country" who wants to "give people hope."
But all the mixed messaging has created confusion over how serious the situation really is.
Here are a few examples -- side by side -- of how he has contradicted himself -- in his own words:
Donald Trump standing in front of a crowd: President Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally, Friday, Feb. 28, 2020, in North Charleston, S.C.© Patrick Semansky/AP President Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally, Friday, Feb. 28, 2020, in North Charleston, S.C.
From signaling U.S. cases ‘close to zero’ to 100K being "a very low number"
The president initially downplayed the impact the virus would have on Americans, telling CNBC on Jan. 22, two days after the first reported cases on American soil, that "it’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."
Feb. 26 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "We're going very substantially down, not up." the president said, as the number of Americans infected with the virus grew to 60. "When you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "A hundred thousand is, according to modeling, a very low number. I asked this a while ago, they said, ‘it's unlikely you will be able to attain that’ -- I think we are doing better than that," he said. "When you look at it could have been 2.2 million people died and more if we did nothing, if we just did nothing," adding the country has "done a great job."
From the virus will 'disappear' to the worst problem 'probably ever seen'
Trump previously suggested that coronavirus cases would drop as the weather warmed up. Now he’s signaling that 100,000 deaths would be considered a victory.
Feb. 27 -- Cabinet Room meeting: "One day -- it’s like a miracle -- it will disappear. And from our shores, we -- you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows," Trump said.
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead." Trump said he anticipates the pandemic will be "the worst thing the country has probably ever seen."
MORE: 5 mixed messages from Trump that have marred his administration's coronavirus response
a person holding a sign posing for the camera: President Donald Trump points to a graphic, flanked by Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci, right, during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, at the White House, March 31, 2020.© Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images President Donald Trump points to a graphic, flanked by Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci, right, during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, at the White House, March 31, 2020.
From several flu comparisons to ‘it’s not the flu’
While the number of infected Americans grew exponentially, President Trump repeatedly compared COVID-19 to the flu, even as health officials warned the novel virus appeared to be both more lethal and contagious. From his own packed rallies in February to just last Friday in the White House Briefing Room, the president said, "call it a flu."
Feb 26 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "This is a flu. This is like a flu," Trump repeated. "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: President Trump acknowledged for the first time, "it’s not the flu. It’s vicious."
MORE: Fact Check: Trump’s coronavirus response plagued with misstatements
From "packed churches" on Easter to "very painful" two weeks ahead
When stocked tumbled and jobless claims broke records last week, the president urged Americans to get back to work and insisted the country wasn’t built to be closed. Even after the White House initially proposed its social distancing guidelines on March 16, Trump more vocal in the coming days that the country "wasn't built to be shut down" -- an argument he has appeared to have since dropped.
Anthony S. Fauci wearing a suit and tie: Vice President Mike Pence gestures to a monitor as he speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House, March 31, 2020.© Alex Brandon/AP Vice President Mike Pence gestures to a monitor as he speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House, March 31, 2020.
March 24 -- Fox News Town Hall: Trump said he envisioned "packed churches" on Easter, April 12. "It’s such an important day for other reasons, but I’d love to make it an important day for this. I would love to have the country opened up, and raring to go by Easter."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: A somber Trump told Americans, "We’re going to start seeing some real light at the end of
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Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D
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I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?
I did hear about this as well. I was actually impressed Mike Lindell called for America to turn back to God. I’m sure he’s mocked but good for him living out his faith. Dudes lived an insane life.
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Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D
Don't bother.
He's living in his own world. ::)
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I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?
Some leftists and LGBTQ react like demons when you invoke the name of God or Jesus Christ. Very strange behavior! Their lack of faith is indeed disturbing.
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Will there be a root cause corrective action for this pandemic to make sure China or any other third work doesn't cause a global pandemic?
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Why should I learn a new "tune" when my "tune" is right on the money. It's old to you because it's true and you don't like hearing it. How you shove your gay and sexual agenda down everyone's throats here. You think it's a coincidence that the only gay person that the majority of the people on this board have an issue with is with YOU!
Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't talking to me and I just "horned" in. What a hypocritical prissy little phag you are. Inserting yourself into everything that goes on here is what you mainly do. And this is a public forum. People bring up subjects or discuss topics and everybody is free to jump in. What a crybaby soggy, old, queer you are. I thought you said you were having fun with me? Sure you are. That's what everybody says when they are getting their ass handed to them which I do with you on a regular basis.
And you want me to go back and list all the offensive posts you've made on this board? Really?
Like I always say when you get called out by others for your perversions, you are just absolutely clueless. You really genuinely have no idea why the majority of people here find you repulsive. You think you can casually and blithely talk about sucking a cock through a hole in the wall or not wanting to spend time with your dying wife going through dialysis and not get judged on that.
Clueless.
LOL....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Masterful !
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Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D
"dearth" is just another angry old Saggy from San Jose .............
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1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.
That’s good news then! 1000 deaths on consecutive days isn’t exponential growth. It’s zero growth.Then again twice as many from two days ago is only geometric growth, not even close to an exponential function. Looking at these numbers you posted it’s practically arithmetic growth- nothing to worry about epidemiologically.
Hypertrophy- guy who actually studied math in school
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See inside the first coronavirus field hospital being set up in N.J.
As cases of the coronavirus continue to rise and hospitals begin becoming overloaded with patients, New Jersey is preparing to open its first pop-up field hospital to help handle the surge.
The U.S. Army Corp of Engineers has been constructing the site at the Meadowlands Exposition Center in Secaucus. Officials say it should open sometime next week.
Three other sites will follow — in Edison, Atlantic City, and another to be determined. Each will have 250 beds.
It can’t come soon enough. New Jersey has at least 22,255 cases of COVID 19, including 355 deaths. That’s the second-most in the U.S., after New York state.
Meanwhile, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said Wednesday hospitals in North Jersey are already beginning to see a surge in patients, with seven hospitals reporting “divert” status on Tuesday.
Persichilli continued to express confidence the state will be able to handle the surge, but she stressed the state needs more ventilators.
She also said the new Secaucus field hospital will be available for “lower-acuity patients who can be safely transferred” there. That would free up more space at existing hospitals for coronavirus patients.
https://www.nj.com/news/j66j-2020/04/4deda912901449/covid19-oem-and-national-guard-set-up-meadowlands-field-medical-station.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2AbCQ9uNjC4pcgYRcXgLZ1RTuIOvRdGgawOdBLNs05YWxB1WlQPzfgoK8
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Prime if China didn’t screw the whole world with this virus your main concern wouldn’t be whether your daughter was sick and was potentially putting everyone in the house at risk.
I think you’re a better guy than you get credit for on here and I know you enjoy stirring the pot but sometimes you’re a little peculiar.
I always knew I was a little peculiar. -Needed someone to remind me. As for being a better person than I get credit for being....that's debatable. ;D
In the sense that the virus had to start somewhere and it appears to have begun in China at this point, I you are correct. China did screw the whole world. Guess that's better than if it started in the U.S. and it was us who screwed the whole world. Gotta look at the bright side of things.
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That’s good news then! 1000 deaths on consecutive days isn’t exponential growth. It’s zero growth.Then again twice as many from two days ago is only geometric growth, not even close to an exponential function. Looking at these numbers you posted it’s practically arithmetic growth- nothing to worry about epidemiologically.
Hypertrophy- guy who actually studied math in school
If you go from 1,000 deaths on Monday and adding then another 1,000 death on Tuesday isn't that growth, as in the growth of people dying? Just like if I made $1,000 on Monday and another $1,000 on Tuesday isn't my income increasing, i.e., growing?
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If you go from 1,000 deaths on Monday and adding then another 1,000 death on Tuesday isn't that growth, as in the growth of people dying? Just like if I made $1,000 on Monday and another $1,000 on Tuesday isn't my income increasing, i.e., growing?
That’s what you call linear growth. Pandemics usually exponentially grow then plateau for a bit like you suggest then exponentially decay. Problem we are facing at the moment is simply kicking the can down the road until a vaccine is manufactured. Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.
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That’s what you call linear growth. Pandemics usually exponentially grow then plateau for a bit like you suggest then exponentially decay. Problem we are facing at the moment is simply kicking the can down the road until a vaccine is manufactured. Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.
We just need to kick the can down for 1-1,5 more years!
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Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.
Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.
Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.
They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.
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Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.
Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.
They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.
UK has tried both, tried herd immunity, fucked it up , now lockdown
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Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.
Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.
They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.
Long-term lockdowns would cause far worse long-term damage.
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Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.
Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.
They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.
If relax extreme curtailment measures, then exponential rate of spread increases again, so hospitalizations increase again. If don’t relax it then strangle the economy into a Great Depression and more people die of pestilence than from the virus. This is way too exaggerated to make sense. This is too convenient and organised.
I received txts today of construction workers being fined by the police 1600$ For eating lunch too close together. Keep chipping away at humanities morale and lock them in cages, see what the end result curtails. The only thing that prevents an implosion our debt bubble, fractional reserves economies is the Public confidence in them. Once the stampede for the exits of trust are triggered in the herd it could be a rout of epic proportions.
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Not just one text but plural....of course you did....because every construction worker knows when they get fined thousands for sitting too close the first thing to do is text "the oak"... ::)
You got me, caught red handed spreading mis-information.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-police-issue-fines-for-alleged-breaches-of-public-health-act-in-nsw-australia/ef767578-b86e-4545-af32-572f7df2644a
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You claimed to have received texts detailing construction workers who were fined $1600 for sitting next to each other. The news item you just posted bears virtually no resemblance. Fail.
Yep.
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This is way too exaggerated to make sense. This is too convenient and organised.
Well, i'd believe China created it.
As for a massive global conspiracy, no way. The odds of that are miniscule because they couldnt all organise such a grand scheme due to the sheer number involved across the world. Not gunna happen.
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"But during the epidemic, they transferred cremation workers from around China to Wuhan keep cremate bodies around the clock," he said.
A resident surnamed Gao said the city's seven crematoriums should have a capacity of around 2,000 bodies a day if they worked around the clock.
"Anyone looking at that figure will realize, anyone with any ability to think," Gao said. "What are they talking about [2,535] people?
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html (https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html)
Over 2000 people a day are dying in Wuhan. The crematoriums can't keep up with the bodies stacking up. They are bringing in workers from around the country to man them around the clock.
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I just sent China a bill for $750,000,000,000,000. I except full payment via Venmo tomorrow.
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yes.. good idea... let's lockdown the entire world, pass $2tril legislation to give congress a raise, free money to big corps, test a police state, crush small business, make 90% of people dependent on the govn't handouts over an R0 thats no different than other pandemics.
Good idea.. and you people let it happen.
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yes.. good idea... let's lockdown the entire world, pass $2tril legislation to give congress a raise, free money to big corps, test a police state, crush small business, make 90% of people dependent on the govn't handouts over an R0 thats no different than other pandemics.
Good idea.. and you people let it happen.
(https://i.insider.com/5e6bf336e4f9fe0a976c50e7?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
In all fairness, I contacted one of my Senators, Tim Scott of South Carolina, and told him it was stupid. ;D
Other than that we are in complete agreement. This scenario reminds me of the movie "The Village" by M. Night Shyamalan. All you have to do is say there is a boogie man that comes out at night and also hides in the woods to control a population. In this case the boogie man is the Wuflu.
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If you go from 1,000 deaths on Monday and adding then another 1,000 death on Tuesday isn't that growth, as in the growth of people dying? Just like if I made $1,000 on Monday and another $1,000 on Tuesday isn't my income increasing, i.e., growing?
You are correct. I meant to say "rate of" growth. All epidemics show exponential growth in the beginning because no one has immunity yet and the virus is its original form. As it spreads a few things happen: 1) the pool of people with no antibodies will shrink 2) people who have it and get very sick will stop moving about and 3) the virus will mutate - often to a less dangerous form. So the growth rate plateaus and then decreases. This is the basis for what is generically "Farr's Law "
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042718300101 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042718300101)
Hypertrophy - who occasionally screws up on his posts
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yes.. good idea... let's lockdown the entire world, pass $2tril legislation to give congress a raise, free money to big corps, test a police state, crush small business, make 90% of people dependent on the govn't handouts over an R0 thats no different than other pandemics.
Good idea.. and you people let it happen.
(https://i.insider.com/5e6bf336e4f9fe0a976c50e7?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Exactly.
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I just sent China a bill for $750,000,000,000,000. I except full payment via Venmo tomorrow.
China use Yuans, not $ ;) !.
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yes.. good idea... let's lockdown the entire world, pass $2tril legislation to give congress a raise, free money to big corps, test a police state, crush small business, make 90% of people dependent on the govn't handouts over an R0 thats no different than other pandemics.
Good idea.. and you people let it happen.
(https://i.insider.com/5e6bf336e4f9fe0a976c50e7?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
ebola spreads to as many people but they show symptoms almost immediately and most of them die, stopping outbreaks early.Same with sars and mers showing symptoms early, so its easy to isolate and stop spread.
The real kicker with Covid19 is some people are not showing symptoms til weeks later,while still spreading, making it almost impossible to stop unless you lockdown. So you either lockdown everyone and the economy crashes, or you let it run wild and eventually hospitals get overloaded, and then the knock on effects crash the economy.Thats why its a mix of lockdown then back to work, keeping the curve flat.
I think there is a good chance hydroxychloroquine will be proven to work, plus when tests are available everywhere, then this lockdown will end.
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ebola spreads to as many people but they show symptoms almost immediately and most of them die, stopping outbreaks early.Same with sars and mers showing symptoms early, so its easy to isolate and stop spread.
The real kicker with Covid19 is some people are not showing symptoms til weeks later, making it almost impossible to stop unless you lockdown. So you either lockdown everyone and the economy crashes, or you let it run wild and eventually hospitals get overloaded, and then the knock on effects crash the economy.Thats why its a mix of lockdown then back to work, keeping the curve flat.
I think there is a good chance hydroxychloroquine will be proven to work, plus when tests are available everywhere, then this lockdown will end.
Army how did you become a disease expert?
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ebola spreads to as many people but they show symptoms almost immediately and most of them die, stopping outbreaks early.Same with sars and mers showing symptoms early, so its easy to isolate and stop spread.
The real kicker with Covid19 is some people are not showing symptoms til weeks later, making it almost impossible to stop unless you lockdown. So you either lockdown everyone and the economy crashes, or you let it run wild and eventually hospitals get overloaded, and then the knock on effects crash the economy.Thats why its a mix of lockdown then back to work, keeping the curve flat.
I think there is a good chance hydroxychloroquine will be proven to work, plus when tests are available everywhere, then this lockdown will end.
Or Get the best available medication out to as many as possible in fact everyone if possible
Bullocks to Martial Law - 24hr lock up.
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My best friend was just diagnosed with COVID19 and my cousin may have it. :o :o
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My best friend was just diagnosed with COVID19 and my cousin may have it. :o :o
Army of One spends way too much time on the internet, being scared about everything.
All fear mongering.
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Army this is uncalled for. People were wrong.
You were right, gloating over someone being sick is worse than being sick.
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Army this is uncalled for. People were wrong.
You were right, gloating over someone being sick is worse than being sick.
SF1900 is young, therefore the odds are very high his best friend is young and therefore will be fine, his cousin is also young and should be fine.This changes slightly if they have underlying conditions but still with youth they should be A-ok.The concern should be them spreading to any elderly people they are in contact with.
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Army this is uncalled for. People were wrong.
You were right, gloating over someone being sick is worse than being sick.
"Covid19 takes over 1 million lives"
Army of one
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"Covid19 takes over 1 million lives"
Army of one
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Sad behavior. :(
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Army this is uncalled for. People were wrong.
You were right, gloating over someone being sick is worse than being sick.
I’m not wrong. I never said people can’t get it.
I still stand by the fact that it’s a lot of fear mongering.
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https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3172319B1/en
Amazing, a coronavirus vaccine patent granted Nov 2019
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https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3172319B1/en
Amazing, a coronavirus vaccine patent granted Nov 2019
WTF !!!
Is it for real ? The link appears to be.
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WTF !!!
Is it for real ? The link appears to be.
yes, a quote from the downloaded PDF
The present invention relates to an attenuated coronavirus comprising a variant replicase gene, which causes the virus to have reduced pathogenicity. The present invention also relates to the use of such a coronavirus in a vaccine to prevent and/or treat a disease.
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the inventors of the vaccine
https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/users/dr-erica-bickerton
https://www.pirbright.ac.uk/users/prof-paul-britton
and Maria Armesto
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yes, a quote from the downloaded PDF
I’m at a loss at what is the Truth & What’s Just Fake.
It appears their Definitely is a strong virus - it’s just the reaction to it from governments
More so in light of all these revelations about drugs that can help fight it & a complete
Lack of Government & MSM info about them - Just Constant Doom & Gloom & Controling
Measures.
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I’m at a loss at what is the Truth & What’s Just Fake.
It appears their Definitely is a strong virus - it’s just the reaction to it from governments
More so in light of all these revelations about drugs that can help fight it & a complete
Lack of Government & MSM info about them - Just Constant Doom & Gloom & Controling
Measures.
watched an interesting video about "catching a virus" apparently virus are dead, its your body reaction to it that causes the damage, totally different from a bacteria
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It is a real patent. It has absolutely nothing to do with Covid 19.
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https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3172319B1/en
Amazing, a coronavirus vaccine patent granted Nov 2019
Coronavirus is a group of related viruses, including sars and mers.In labs scientists have made similar virus profiles to Covid19, so its no surprise there are Vaccine patents all across the Coronavirus spectrum.You have a very simplistic view on life, you need to broaden your mind to the nuances of it.
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It is a real patent. It has absolutely nothing to do with Covid 19.
Really, what makes you think that, do you know why Covid19 is so named?
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Really, what makes you think that, do you know why Covid19 is so named?
What did I tell you before.
Please put your keyboard down, before you hurt yourself. ::)
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What did I tell you before.
Please put your keyboard down, before you hurt yourself. ::)
Game Changer – On Hydroxy Azithromycin combo – SUCCESS. Looks like the virus can be beaten quickly
”Dr. Stephen Smith, an infectious disease specialist, on using hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combo to treat #COVID19 patients:
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“It’s a game changer. It’s an absolute game changer. … I think this is the beginning of the end of the #pandemic. I’m very serious.” pic.twitter.com/F716IhtEvA
— Nicole Saphier, MD (@NBSaphierMD) April 2, 2020
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Is This Good News ??
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ebola spreads to as many people but they show symptoms almost immediately and most of them die, stopping outbreaks early.Same with sars and mers showing symptoms early, so its easy to isolate and stop spread.
The real kicker with Covid19 is some people are not showing symptoms til weeks later,while still spreading, making it almost impossible to stop unless you lockdown. So you either lockdown everyone and the economy crashes, or you let it run wild and eventually hospitals get overloaded, and then the knock on effects crash the economy.Thats why its a mix of lockdown then back to work, keeping the curve flat.
I think there is a good chance hydroxychloroquine will be proven to work, plus when tests are available everywhere, then this lockdown will end.
Imagine if Ebola was running through the population like Covid19. Seeing the panic a 1% killer produces people would be absolutely batshit crazy if a killer like Ebola was effecting so many.
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https://patents.google.com/patent/EP3172319B1/en
Amazing, a coronavirus vaccine patent granted Nov 2019
It's probably for pets/dogs. They have been vaccinating them for ages.
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It's probably for pets/dogs. They have been vaccinating them for ages.
its for poultry
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Looking like USA is going to shut it's borders in the next 7 days, advising any Americans to get back to the USA as soon as possible, or risk not being able to get back in for a fairly long period.
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Imagine if Ebola was running through the population like Covid19. Seeing the panic a 1% killer produces people would be absolutely batshit crazy if a killer like Ebola was effecting so many.
Or Marburg (90%)
I remember reading either a National Geographic or New Scientist in the 90s describing the breakout in an animal testing laboratory - crab eating macaques (sp?)
Horrific stuff...
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Imagine if Ebola was running through the population like Covid19. Seeing the panic a 1% killer produces people would be absolutely batshit crazy if a killer like Ebola was effecting so many.
Dude I was literally just saying this. We are losing our minds over the Shanghai shivers, imagine something brutal where even 10% died. Anarchy and chaos.
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Dude I was literally just saying this. We are losing our minds over the Shanghai shivers, imagine something brutal where even 10% died. Anarchy and chaos.
There would be people jumping out of buildings, murder, rape, anarchy and mayhem.
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There would be people jumping out of buildings, murder, rape, anarchy and mayhem.
:o Ahha Sounds Great - when’s this all scheduled to start ?
😂🤣😂
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
Are you afraid of dying you little fucking coward?? Sounds like it. Probably lived your life like a bitch and wasted your best years. Fat pile of shit.
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Germany has had a much lower percentage of deaths from the novel coronavirus than other countries. They have also been testing for it much longer and with more frequency. The number of ICU beds available in Germany is higher too. Germany's National healthcare system seems to be working.
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
What do you mean nothing has changed? We are locked in our houses all day for at least the next 30 days over the cold virus. Our whole world economy is going to crash over something that kills less than 1% of those infected. The Spanish Flu was way worse and they didn't shut down shit.
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What do you mean nothing has changed? We are locked in our houses all day for at least the next 30 days over the cold virus. Our whole world economy is going to crash over something that kills less than 1% of those infected. The Spanish Flu was way worse and they didn't shut down shit.
World War One had just ended, there was fuck all to shut down
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Are you afraid of dying you little fucking coward?? Sounds like it. Probably lived your life like a bitch and wasted your best years. Fat pile of shit.
Owned.
He should delete his account.
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
OK, so that means we won't have to hear from you again regarding this subject.
I hope you are a man of your word.
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Democrat NYC nurses: Andrew Cuomo led ‘drive to close down hospital beds
Outside of New York, Andrew Cuomo is being seen as a hero by the left. But those on the ground at hospitals in NY City realize their coronavirus problems should be directly blamed on the Governor.
https://noqreport.com/2020/04/03/democrat-nyc-nurses-andrew-cuomo-led-drive-to-close-down-hospital-beds/ (https://noqreport.com/2020/04/03/democrat-nyc-nurses-andrew-cuomo-led-drive-to-close-down-hospital-beds/)
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Trump keeping his sense of humor
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1246206981121216515
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
GetBig is happy that everything is okay in Serbia: no Corona,no alcoholism,no prostitution,no drugs,no money,no .................!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
OBW, have you serbs lost any wars in the last 3 days !.
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
No, I told you so. I posted this before the story came out. “Generous”😂😂😂
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/
BySarah Newey,
GLOBAL HEALTH SECURITY CORRESPONDENT
23 March 2020
According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics - the nation has the second oldest population worldwide - and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus
“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.
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The only thing left for me to say is, I told you about this pandemic situation about a month ago. As I can see, ladies, gentleman and Republican idiots with the moron presiding, nothing has changed. The retards are still not dead according to this board. Hopefully, this will happen sooner or later.
Take your malaria medicine, go strolling into grocery stores, daily, until you get sick, and pray to die a quick and easy death.
Natural selection at its best.
Thank you Gaia!
Smallest, Shortest book in the world, Italian war heros.
No one said it wasn't bad, your third world shite hole was unprepared as your a lazy siesta state population, research your own coroner reports only 30% have the virus on the death certificates, as they died by other causes, yes the states is bad that was always going to happen when you dont have universal health care system, its as bad as having one like yours under invested in as the population is old, your country is drowning in old retired people, young taxpayers can't pay enough taxes to support greater investment as you dont have any jobs only welfare . Your situation and europes is more about their government systems than anything, its very sad younger hard working people dying to save old people, and I'm not that young myself.
People like you and Army make me sick, we told you so, there is treatment that works in many cases, you need to access the treatment before you get to ventilator stage and you need to have some life left in you, if your shite hole of a country won't approve a drug for use or can't supply it as it isn't approved for use in a new virus and needs a study done first thats your fault. This virus will kill lots of people mainly old people with less than a few years left with already a low quality of life. Yes there will be others as well, in life people die we are not immune. This virus is doing what nature has always done killing of the old and weak.
But you were right and you warned us. enjoy your moment.
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Are you afraid of dying you little fucking coward?? Sounds like it. Probably lived your life like a bitch and wasted your best years. Fat pile of shit.
Coming from the queen with nearly 20k posts on a muscle board ;D
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Smallest, Shortest book in the world, Italian war heros.
No one said it wasn't bad, your third world shite hole was unprepared as your a lazy siesta state population, research your own coroner reports only 30% have the virus on the death certificates, as they died by other causes, yes the states is bad that was always going to happen when you dont have universal health care system, its as bad as having one like yours under invested in as the population is old, your country is drowning in old retired people, young taxpayers can't pay enough taxes to support greater investment as you dont have any jobs only welfare . Your situation and europes is more about their government systems than anything, its very sad younger hard working people dying to save old people, and I'm not that young myself.
People like you and Army make me sick, we told you so, there is treatment that works in many cases, you need to access the treatment before you get to ventilator stage and you need to have some life left in you, if your shite hole of a country won't approve a drug for use or can't supply it as it isn't approved for use in a new virus and needs a study done first thats your fault. This virus will kill lots of people mainly old people with less than a few years left with already a low quality of life. Yes there will be others as well, in life people die we are not immune. This virus is doing what nature has always done killing of the old and weak.
But you were right and you warned us. enjoy your moment.
I'm assuming your the US stud. We are on 1200 deaths day currently, the peak is projected to be 5/8 times that.
We are fucked.
20/50 with no lockdown
Just flu bro.
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I'm assuming your the US stud. We are on 1200 deaths day currently, the peak is projected to be 5/8 times that.
We are fucked.
20/50 with no lockdown
Just flu bro.
on the plus side there will be a lot of holiday homes available to snap up after this is all over...
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on the plus side there will be a lot of holiday homes available to snap up after this is all over...
its being reported now the uk is considering going back to herd immunity, as us being locked down will cause more chaos and economy fuckery than letting the virus run its course.I dont envy the government right now, having to make a choice for an event that has no precedent.
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its being reported now the uk is considering going back to herd immunity, as us being locked down will cause more chaos and economy fuckery than letting the virus run its course.I dont envy the government right now, having to make a choice for an event that has no precedent.
Having already denied that was the original plan they are going to look pretty stupid.
The new 4k bed hospital opened yesterday, no one in it yet, may be next week before they need it if at all
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Having already denied that was the original plan they are going to look pretty stupid.
The new 4k bed hospital opened yesterday, no one in it yet, may be next week before they need it if at all
It will be used.....
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Having already denied that was the original plan they are going to look pretty stupid.
The new 4k bed hospital opened yesterday, no one in it yet, may be next week before they need it if at all
They can't look any more stupid than they do now.
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It will be used.....
I’m guessing it’s for the move to herd immunity - wards exclusively for corona patients. Or the second wave following lockdown.
(Disclaimer: I failed GCSE (high school) science big time).
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its being reported now the uk is considering going back to herd immunity, as us being locked down will cause more chaos and economy fuckery than letting the virus run its course.I dont envy the government right now, having to make a choice for an event that has no precedent.
I'd say it depends on how many have already been infected/have immunity to covid19.
They are guessing it could be anything from 1mill to 10mill. Might as well go for herd immunity if it's the latter as it's nearly 1/3 the way there already. London is probably half way there.
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I'd say it depends on how many have already been infected/have immunity to covid19.
They are guessing it could be anything from 1mill to 10mill. Might as well go for herd immunity if it's the latter as it's nearly 1/3 the way there already. London is probably half way there.
according to the experts with the UK population where its at you would need to have 36 million people infected , thats without a vaccine, with vaccinations its a much smaller number
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I'd say it depends on how many have already been infected/have immunity to covid19.
They are guessing it could be anything from 1mill to 10mill. Might as well go for herd immunity if it's the latter as it's nearly 1/3 the way there already. London is probably half way there.
Why not just get as much of the medications ready for all that needs them -
Stop the Fuckerry with this locked up society that’s only going to lead to
Personal & economic disaster.
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Why not just get as much of the medications ready for all that needs them -
Stop the Fuckerry with this locked up society that’s only going to lead to
Personal & economic disaster.
The answer is what I have been saying here for several weeks. It’s not about the virus. It’s about an economic reset and currency devaluation. The virus is a smokescreen.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html
The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died
The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.
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The answer is what I have been saying here for several weeks. It’s not about the virus. It’s about an economic reset and currency devaluation. The virus is a smokescreen.
You’re possibly right
I’m convinced there’s an ulterior (dark) motive to what’s going on
And the well being & Peoples Heath isn’t the main motive.
They still sell cigarettes & beer ( though fast food not so much ) & unhealthy
Foods so they don’t really give a Toss about about General Populations Health.
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You’re possibly right
I’m convinced there’s an ulterior (dark) motive to what’s going on
And the well being & Peoples Heath isn’t the main motive.
They still sell cigarettes & beer ( though fast food not so much ) & unhealthy
Foods so they don’t really give a Toss about about General Populations Health.
At this point I don’t even have to post any new material. Just quote myself with stories that confirmed what I’ve been saying:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html
Thursday, April 2
The U.S.N.S. Comfort is basically empty
According to the New York Times, the massive hospital ship that President Trump touted as a victory for the federal response to the crisis hasn’t done much good since it arrived earlier this week. As of Thursday, the Navy confirmed that only 20 patients had been placed on the ship — out of 1,000 available beds.
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its being reported now the uk is considering going back to herd immunity, as us being locked down will cause more chaos and economy fuckery than letting the virus run its course.I dont envy the government right now, having to make a choice for an event that has no precedent.
;D ;D
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The answer is what I have been saying here for several weeks. It’s not about the virus. It’s about an economic reset and currency devaluation. The virus is a smokescreen.
Yep
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Yep
Apparently, the Chinese who came over from Wuhan did a lot of hanging out in Da ‘Hood, either that or the virus is racist😉
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/01/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-cases-map.html
During the first month of the outbreak in the city — the epicenter of America’s coronavirus crisis — many of the neighborhoods with the most confirmed virus cases were in areas with the lowest median incomes, the data shows. The biggest hot spots included communities in the South Bronx and western Queens
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I’m guessing it’s for the move to herd immunity - wards exclusively for corona patients. Or the second wave following lockdown.
(Disclaimer: I failed GCSE (high school) science big time).
No just the projected increase in deaths, which were spot on.
100 -200 -300 - 400 - 500 - 700
In the UK, if they take you to hospital, you pretty much go to die.
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In other news, mass shootings in the USA have significantly dropped. :D
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In other news, mass shootings in the USA have significantly dropped. :D
Yeah, but the suicides have probably sky rocketed.
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Yeah, but the suicides have probably sky rocketed.
Is that a negative or positive thing? ???
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Is that a negative or positive thing? ???
Depends on who's doing the suiciding.
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Depends on who's doing the suiciding.
I read Judas hanged himself.
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I read Judas hanged himself.
He probably spent the silver first.
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I’m guessing it’s for the move to herd immunity - wards exclusively for corona patients. Or the second wave following lockdown.
(Disclaimer: I failed GCSE (high school) science big time).
It will be implemented once the money printing is done.
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Apparently, the Chinese who came over from Wuhan did a lot of hanging out in Da ‘Hood, either that or the virus is racist😉
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/01/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-cases-map.html
During the first month of the outbreak in the city — the epicenter of America’s coronavirus crisis — many of the neighborhoods with the most confirmed virus cases were in areas with the lowest median incomes, the data shows. The biggest hot spots included communities in the South Bronx and western Queens
In addition to “age”, compare obesity, diabetes, and high BMI stats against C-19 cases and deaths.
It’s easier for the MSM to focus on age to create hysteria to steer the public perception. The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.
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In addition to “age”, compare obesity, diabetes, and high BMI stats against C-19 cases and deaths.
It’s easier for the MSM to focus on age to create hysteria to steer the public perception. The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.
The article mentions that the number of people who reported to the hospital because of flu has tripled since last year but that’s obviously because of the last month of being pummeled by the media and the government. What the article doesn’t mention is the total number of deaths in NYC this year compared to last year. I’d bet it’s pretty close.
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The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.
This from day one. The media (all platforms) should be held accountable for the lies they spread.
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The article mentions that the number of people who reported to the hospital because of flu has tripled since last year but that’s obviously because of the last month of being pummeled by the media and the government. What the article doesn’t mention is the total number of deaths in NYC this year compared to last year. I’d bet it’s pretty close.
Over the course of 31 days (from March 1 to March 31), the coronavirus killed more than 1,500 people in the tri-state, the vast majority of which were in New York. Of the 1,342 people who died in the state, 914 were in New York City.
New York had 4,749 deaths as a result of influenza and pneumonia in 2018, according to the Centers for Disease Control (statistics for 2019 were not available). The New York City Department of Health said that roughly 2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.
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This from day one. The media (all platforms) should be held accountable for the lies they spread.
Politicians from California are some of the worst offenders.
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Over the course of 31 days (from March 1 to March 31), the coronavirus killed more than 1,500 people in the tri-state, the vast majority of which were in New York. Of the 1,342 people who died in the state, 914 were in New York City.
New York had 4,749 deaths as a result of influenza and pneumonia in 2018, according to the Centers for Disease Control (statistics for 2019 were not available). The New York City Department of Health said that roughly 2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.
Here’s the thing. Corona could be anything or nothing at all. That’s what makes the numbers so easy to fudge. Anyone with a positive test reading can be declared having died from corona even if they had several other underlying illnesses. That’s the case in both Italy and NYC. I believe total deaths year over year would be the number that would tell the story the best.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/have-i-already-had-coronavirus-covid-19-how-would-i-know
Dr William Hillmann: At this point, we don’t have a test to tell that. We are developing antibody tests to check for a prior infection, but those aren’t ready for clinical use yet. The only definitive way to know that you’ve had it is to get tested while you have it and to have that test be positive.
Could I have had it and been asymptomatic?
Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat – to people with more flu-like symptoms – high fevers, muscle aches, shortness of breath and cough. All the way up to people with severe illness, who we’re seeing in the hospital with respiratory failure, requiring ICU care.
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N.J. will get 70K masks to help fight coronavirus after feds bust ‘hoarding situation’
New Jersey will soon get more N95 masks and other much-needed personal protective equipment to help fight the coronavirus outbreak after a federal bust of a “significant PPE hoarding situation” in Brooklyn, Gov. Phil Murphy said Saturday.
Federal authorities seized hundreds of thousands of personal protective equipment items that are desperately needed by healthcare workers and first responders testing or treating people for the virus
Murphy said the state will receive more than 70,000 N95 masks and 5,000 gloves, among other PPE, from the site. The governor thanked U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Craig Carpenito and Newark FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Ehrie for their efforts in securing the equipment.
The governor made the announcement at his daily coronavirus press briefing after noting that COVID-19 has now killed 846 people in New Jersey, which is more than the Sept. 11, 2011 terrorist attack, which killed 704.
New Jersey now has at least 34,124 cases of the illness, officials said Saturday. The state of 9 million people has the second-most cases among U.S. states, after New York.
Murphy said he spoke with Vice President Mike Pence on Friday night and stressed that the state needs more supplies from the federal government — including 1,650 more ventilators.
In an effort to increase social distancing and curb the spread of the virus, Murphy has ordered residents to stay home, banned social gatherings, and mandated that non-essential businesses in the state close until further notice.
State Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said hospitals in the northern half of New Jersey are already seeing a surge in patients with the virus, with some having to divert patients to other facilities.
Murphy has said he expects the fallout from the virus to last “deep into May.”
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/nj-will-get-70k-masks-to-help-fight-coronavirus-after-feds-bust-hoarding-situation.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR2Wx24d6Gia86AiDTZMTNf8nlk6TPSwVAaC0rU6z4240f9gyWb-AYFIrPo
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I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.
There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.
If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.
Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.
Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.
You can't.
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I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.
There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.
If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.
Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.
Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.
You can't.
Correct.
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I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.
There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.
If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.
Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.
Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.
You can't.
Yes, current statistics are biased.
Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.
From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.
The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.
Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.
There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.
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Yes, current statistics are biased.
Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.
From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.
The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.
Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.
There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.
What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html
The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died
The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.
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I am spreading the rumor that oxandralone aka Anavar is the cure for the Clovid-19 virus. That way the government will give everyone free Anavar. I will buy all the Anavar at a greatly reduced price and build some serious muscle. That's my plan.
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I am spreading the rumor that oxandralone aka Anavar is the cure for the Clovid-19 virus. That way the government will give everyone free Anavar. I will buy all the Anavar at a greatly reduced price and build some serious muscle. That's my plan.
Blue Label Johnnie Walker is the best medicine for flu ..........
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Blue Label Johnnie Walker is the best medicine for flu ..........
I asked my trt doctor last year about what he thought about me taking anavar as I'm getting older and having a much harder time maintaining strength and muscle. He told me (again this was sometime last year so things may have changed) that there has been a halt to any importation of anavar as it all comes from China and they have discovered impurities in them.
What a surprise. I hope this whole coronavirus thing really opens our eyes to our dependency on China. They are not our friend and can't be trusted. Obviously we can't do it overnight but hopefully, people will be more aware of stuff coming out of China and avoid it as much as possible.
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I was out of toilet paper so I got to Walmart at 6:00 A.M. and when the doors opened I walked to the paper isle and started coughing and hacking.....then leisurely selected my Charmin ultra-strong.
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What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?
Being alive is a pre existing condition to being dead.
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Being alive is a pre existing condition to being dead.
No, I’m talking about this type:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html
The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died
The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.
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No, I’m talking about this type:
People can live 50 plus years with some of those conditions.
You need to think of covid19 as an accelerant, not as the cause of the death.
If it was allowed to spread through a population without any measures in place then we can assume bodies will pile up. People would soon be too scared to turn up for work so the economy would be wrecked anyway. Hospitals and morgues would be closed, vital services gone, mass graves, basically it would be mayhem.
Staggering the virus in waves and hoping to get lucky with a vaccine and/or treatment is the safest bet. At the very least this first wave with the lockdown buys time. We might find that the virus burns out quicker than current data suggests so that it might be defeated in 2 or 3 waves. Doing nothing would be like sitting in an apartment whilst next door was on fire and hoping for the best.
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Yes, current statistics are biased.
Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.
From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.
The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.
Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.
There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.
So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?
LOL
The chances of dying by being shot if you are black and living in Chicago is 1 in 1000 but I don't see anyone closing the entire city down over it.
Do you drive a car? well... did you know you have a 2 out of 3 chance of being involved in a drunk driving accident in your lifetime? BAN CARS!!
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So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?
LOL
It gets more and more absurd by the day. The people who are still buying into this stuff just can’t admit that they got worked and have to come up with ever more ridiculous rationalizations and excuses.
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People can live 50 plus years with some of those conditions.
You need to think of covid19 as an accelerant, not as the cause of the death.
If it was allowed to spread through a population without any measures in place then we can assume bodies will pile up. People would soon be too scared to turn up for work so the economy would be wrecked anyway. Hospitals and morgues would be closed, vital services gone, mass graves, basically it would be mayhem.
Staggering the virus in waves and hoping to get lucky with a vaccine and/or treatment is the safest bet. At the very least this first wave with the lockdown buys time. We might find that the virus burns out quicker than current data suggests so that it might be defeated in 2 or 3 waves. Doing nothing would be like sitting in an apartment whilst next door was on fire and hoping for the best.
There is a Treatment- Yet it’s not being Headlined by MSM
Ramp up Production of the Medications & Get it Out there Asap
Open everything back up -
While working on an effective Vaccine
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What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?
Why would you remove people with pre-existing conditions from the statistics? ???
Are you trying to imply Covid-19 it's not a big deal because most healthy, young people don't die from it?
It's the sheer number of people with and without pre-existing conditions what saturates the healthcare system.
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Why would you remove people with pre-existing conditions from the statistics? ???
Are you trying to imply Covid-19 it's not a big deal because most healthy, young people don't die from it?
It's the sheer number of people with and without pre-existing conditions what saturates the healthcare system.
I’m saying it’s idiotic to view the percentages as a whole without digging a little deeper and seeing the majority of the cases are in a very small group.
Seriously believe what you wanna believe. I think I’ve shot my wad on this subject. If you don’t wanna agree I frankly don’t give a fuck.
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So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?
LOL
The chances of dying by being shot if you are black and living in Chicago is 1 in 1000 but I don't see anyone closing the entire city down over it.
Do you drive a car? well... did you know you have a 2 out of 3 chance of being involved in a drunk driving accident in your lifetime? BAN CARS!!
A small percentage of a big number is still a big number.
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Common Anti-Parasite Drug May Kill Coronavirus in Under 48 Hours, Say Researchers
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/04/04/common-anti-parasite-drug-may-kill-coronavirus-in-under-48-hours-say-researchers/
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It gets more and more absurd by the day. The people who are still buying into this stuff just can’t admit that they got worked and have to come up with ever more ridiculous rationalizations and excuses.
Maybe my math is off here..???
Someone correct me please...
NY has tested 220k people to date
source: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21193848/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths-tests-by-state
5 to 10x that number of people who actually got the virus but never get tested and live
source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-statistics-undetected.html
Even at 5x220k rounded off to 1 million
1900 of those people die according to NY stats (link above)
(never mind age, BMI and/or preexisting conditions factored in..)
1900/1,000,000 = .001
THATS the LOW number of contracted cases
NOW take the high number of contracted cases
THEN factor in age, BMI and preexisting conditions..
What do you have for a rate of death then?
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Maybe my math is off here..???
Someone correct me please...
NY has tested 220k people to date
source: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21193848/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths-tests-by-state
5 to 10x that number of people who actually got the virus but never get tested and live
source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-statistics-undetected.html
Even at 5x220k rounded off to 1 million
1900 of those people die according to NY stats (link above)
(never mind age, BMI and/or preexisting conditions factored in..)
1900/1,000,000 = .001
THATS the LOW number of contracted cases
NOW take the high number of contracted cases
THEN factor in age, BMI and preexisting conditions..
What do you have for a rate of death then?
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At this point, there’s no sense in even knocking your brains out about this. It’s a smokescreen to cover up the real reason as I stated: currency devaluation and an economic reset.
I’ve been noticing that lately more and more people on Trump’’s Twitter are coming around to my line of thinking. They know somethings up they just can’t figure it out.
Even Trump himself hasn’t been looking too good lately on his press conferences I think it’s getting to him as he knows it’s a work.
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I’m saying it’s idiotic to view the percentages as a whole without digging a little deeper and seeing the majority of the cases are in a very small group.
What you point out it's nothing new and you're missing the reason why the lock downs have been implemented.
Seriously believe what you wanna believe. I think I’ve shot my wad on this subject. If you don’t wanna agree I frankly don’t give a fuck.
You sound butthurt.
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Maybe my math is off here..???
Someone correct me please...
NY has tested 220k people to date
source: https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21193848/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths-tests-by-state
5 to 10x that number of people who actually got the virus but never get tested and live
source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-statistics-undetected.html
Even at 5x220k rounded off to 1 million
1900 of those people die according to NY stats (link above)
(never mind age, BMI and/or preexisting conditions factored in..)
1900/1,000,000 = .001
THATS the LOW number of contracted cases
NOW take the high number of contracted cases
THEN factor in age, BMI and preexisting conditions..
What do you have for a rate of death then?
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There are a few issues with your calculation.
You're using the number of tests, not the number of positive tests.
There're roughly 110k confirmed cases in NY, with 3500 deaths.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52168682
If the total number of cases is 5 times the number of confirmed cases, the death rate is 1 in 157.
3500/550000 * 100 = 0.64%
If the total number of cases is 10 times the number of confirmed cases, the death rate is 1 in 315.
3500/1100000 * 100 = 0.32%
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What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?
You reference pre-existing conditions as to disregard, but they are a reality. You can’t just ignore them when analyzing the covid stats. Lol. Get the fcuk out of here. What’s next, disregarding a previous high blood pressure diagnosis when crunching heart attack stats. Lol. I’ve reread a few of your commentst, and I still have no idea what you’re talking about. Any point or argument you’re trying to communicate is lost on me. Get yourself together man, you’re all over the place
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I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.
There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.
If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.
Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.
Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.
You can't.
I think your assumption of .0005 percent might be off slightly. If the death rate were truly .00005 percent, and the entire world became infected (7.6 billion), that would give a total of 3800 deaths. I'm pretty sure there have been a few more deaths than 3800. :-\
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Blue Label Johnnie Walker is the best medicine for flu ..........
:) Exactly! That's all we need to do. Johnny Walker Blue Label and Anavar for everybody.
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There is a Treatment- Yet it’s not being Headlined by MSM
Ramp up Production of the Medications & Get it Out there Asap
Open everything back up -
While working on an effective Vaccine
The treatment may indeed work, but they aren't certain of that yet.
What if they let everyone get infected and then gave everyone treatment and it does work, or worse ends up increasing the number of dead because of side effects. Drugs aren't perfect, in some cases they cause worse issues than they treat. The need time to make sure it's effective and safe.
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Brit Hume Clip of Dr. Fauci in January Is a ‘Must Watch’ for Every American Accusing Trump of Failing to Act Early.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/04/brit-hume-clip-of-dr.-fauci-in-january-is-a-must-watch-for-every-american-accusing-trump-of-failing-to-act-early (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/04/brit-hume-clip-of-dr.-fauci-in-january-is-a-must-watch-for-every-american-accusing-trump-of-failing-to-act-early)
Fox News‘ Brit Hume has posted a clip of Dr. Fauci speaking to News Max reporter Greg Kelly on January 21. Kelly addresses Fauci, “Bottom line. We don’t have to worry about this one, right?”
Fauci replies, “Well, obviously you need to take it seriously. And do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing, but this is not a major threat for the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”
That’s what Trump was hearing from Dr. Fauci, an expert, a man who has served as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984.
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I yield to no one in admiration of Dr. Fauci. But this comment from January 21 should be kept in mind by those accusing anyone in the U.S. of failing to act in time against Covid 19. Watch it all the way through: pic.twitter.com/wCBHT1wfdr
— Brit Hume (@brithume) April 3, 2020
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Brit Hume Clip of Dr. Fauci in January Is a ‘Must Watch’ for Every American Accusing Trump of Failing to Act Early.
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I remember that. Where's the clip?
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Fixed.
Story and video at that link.
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The treatment may indeed work, but they aren't certain of that yet.
What if they let everyone get infected and then gave everyone treatment and it does work, or worse ends up increasing the number of dead because of side effects. Drugs aren't perfect, in some cases they cause worse issues than they treat. The need time to make sure it's effective and safe.
The drugs are long established drugs already tried & tested.
It does work from all the reports from different countries - Dr Stephen Smith was on US TV
News just a couple of days ago saying it was a Game changer.
Research it on the Internet.
Why oh Why is everyone so scared of Dying as that’s the worst outcome
Like it or not We’re All Going To Die some sooner than others
Simple unavoidable Fact. Try Disputing that one 🙄
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Tucker hits faulty Fauci for suggesting ‘national suicide’ while enjoying ‘bulletproof job security’.
Tucker Carlson took aim at Dr. Anthony Fauci Friday night for his recommendation of a national stay-at-home order. The straight-talking Fox News host said that following his suggestions for long-term social distancing “would be national suicide” based on the economic hardships that are already resulting.
Carlson offered praise and his personal respect for Fauci’s well-established credentials and professional medical career before pointing out, “that does not mean that he’s never wrong. On the question of this pandemic, Fauci has been wrong repeatedly. “On January 21st, he appeared on television, for example, to reassure the public that the Wuhan coronavirus was not worth worrying about.”
Carlson offered praise and his personal respect for Fauci’s well-established credentials and professional medical career before pointing out, “that does not mean that he’s never wrong. On the question of this pandemic, Fauci has been wrong repeatedly. “On January 21st, he appeared on television, for example, to reassure the public that the Wuhan coronavirus was not worth worrying about.”
“To be clear, we are not attacking Tony Fauci for getting it wrong on coronavirus,” said Carlson. “Most people did get it wrong, in and out of medicine. It’s never easy predicting which faraway problems will become imminent crises here at home. Even the experts make big mistakes. They’re human beings. They make human mistakes. And that is exactly the point that we ought to remember going forward. Human beings frequently underestimate risk, particularly risk on the horizon. Then they very often, in turn, overreact to risk once they identify it, and we may be watching that happen right now.”
“Two months ago,” he continued, “Anthony Fauci told us not to worry about this epidemic. Now he is demanding that the federal government quarantine the entire country.” Carlson pointed out that several state officials have followed suit by extending their shutdowns months into the future already.
“More than 10 million Americans have already lost their jobs. Imagine another year of this,” said Carlson. “That would be national suicide, and yet, that is what Anthony Fauci is suggesting, at least. Now, we’re not suggesting Fauci wants to hurt America. We don’t think he does. He seems like a very decent man. But Fauci is not an economist or for that matter someone who fears being unemployed himself. … Fauci has bulletproof job security. He’s not thinking that way. He has the luxury of looking at the world through the narrow lens of his profession. He doesn’t seem to think much outside that lens.
Full story and video:
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/04/04/tucker-hits-faulty-fauci-for-suggesting-national-suicide-while-enjoying-bulletproof-job-security-904754 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/04/04/tucker-hits-faulty-fauci-for-suggesting-national-suicide-while-enjoying-bulletproof-job-security-904754)
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Fixed.
Story and video at that link.
Thanks!
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At this point, there’s no sense in even knocking your brains out about this. It’s a smokescreen to cover up the real reason as I stated: currency devaluation and an economic reset.
Even Trump himself hasn’t been looking too good lately on his press conferences I think it’s getting to him as he knows it’s a work.
The elephant in the room with your conspiracy is that the actions are being determined by health, not by finance.
The decision to shut down and protect lives is being driven by the health side, not the banks. Trump doesn't want to shut down but he has no choice because if he doesn't do it and millions of Americans die, he will forever be labelled as a genocidal maniac.
Or are you saying all of the medical field across the globe are in on it with all of the bankers across the globe and between them all they managed to keep the secret?
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The elephant in the room with your conspiracy is that the actions are being determined by health, not by finance.
The decision to shut down and protect lives is being driven by the health side, not the banks. Trump doesn't want to shut down but he has no choice because if he doesn't do it and millions of Americans die, he will forever be labelled as a genocidal maniac.
Or are you saying all of the medical field across the globe are in on it with all of the bankers across the globe and between them all they managed to keep the secret?
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You reference pre-existing conditions as to disregard, but they are a reality. You can’t just ignore them when analyzing the covid stats. Lol. Get the fcuk out of here. What’s next, disregarding a previous high blood pressure diagnosis when crunching heart. Lol. I’ve reread a few of your commentst, and I still have no idea what you’re talking about. Any point or argument you’re trying to communicate is lost on me. Get yourself together man, you’re all over the place
I tink it's a case of "If my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike" :D.
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Where are the bodies???
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The drugs are long established drugs already tried & tested.
It does work from all the reports from different countries - Dr Stephen Smith was on US TV
News just a couple of days ago saying it was a Game changer.
Research it on the Internet.
Why oh Why is everyone so scared of Dying as that’s the worst outcome
Like it or not We’re All Going To Die some sooner than others
Simple unavoidable Fact. Try Disputing that one 🙄
It's hasn't been tried and tested on covid19 patients, that's what they are doing now and that's why they need time. Even if it is a game changer they still won't be able to let the virus spread uncontrolled through the population because there just isn't enough hospital capacity/staff to treat those kinda numbers. To ensure treatment is delivered to everyone they will still need to maintain this lockdown for a few more weeks, continue social distancing for a few more months and more than likely another lockdown will be needed at the end of the year.
It has nothing to do with my own fear as I'm pretty sure I've had the virus back in Feb with minimal symptoms. I'm on paid furlough, my expenses are minimal and I have years of savings at hand. I could comfortably sit this situation out for years.
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I could comfortably sit this situation out for years.
Could your neighbors? What about the next town over? While you're sitting on the situation, your neighbors, friends, family, will be running out of toilet paper, starving, dying of thirst and getting more desperate by the day. All because the government decides to overreact to some bullshit virus.
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Could your neighbors? What about the next town over? While you're sitting on the situation, your neighbors, friends, family, will be running out of toilet paper, starving, dying of thirst and getting more desperate by the day. All because the government decides to overreact to some bullshit virus.
Same things you describe would happen if the virus spread uncontrollably through a large population. Only this time the masses would be pissed at the government for doing nothing. At least right now they are seeing some action from the governments.
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Could your neighbors? What about the next town over? While you're sitting on the situation, your neighbors, friends, family, will be running out of toilet paper, starving, dying of thirst and getting more desperate by the day. All because the government decides to overreact to some bullshit virus.
If it ever gets to the point where people are starving or dying of thirst in the developed West, we are all fucked.Rich or poor.Anyone seen to not be struggling will be the first to be targeted for resources.
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The treatment may indeed work, but they aren't certain of that yet.
What if they let everyone get infected and then gave everyone treatment and it does work, or worse ends up increasing the number of dead because of side effects. Drugs aren't perfect, in some cases they cause worse issues than they treat. The need time to make sure it's effective and safe.
So immediate death is seen as better than death from sides effects years later, its OK man, in all honesty that's why people are dying and that's why I have my hydroxychloroquine and azithromyocin as i dont trust government as they think similar to yourself i bought both drugs on the net over a month maybe 6 weeks ago, there're also HIV drugs kamera thats are working, along with Ivermectin etc.
People are dying due to herd incompetence not herd immunity, they are still dying as worldwide supply has dried up as countries look to nationalise supplies, Governments have thought like you do, until the body count got up high enough. Now the position of managing from a position of potential liability which all western governments mange from has changed as some governments and countries have little to no mortality compared to others and the difference is treatment. So now all the high body count nations have to look at themselves and think how many must die before we change practice, they have changed now but cannot secure supply.
This virus and the treatment options cannot save the very old who were dying anyway, and you need to get the drugs into you if your old before you get to far gone, yes drugs are being rationed due to lack of doses, basically if your not old and sick which is the high risk group they dont want to give it to you and in a few cases this has caused death, as you need to get the treatment into you before you get to respirator stage in most cases.
No doubt it is bad but ask yourselves how did the world health community let so many die when there was already viral medication available thats just wasn't approved to treat a new virus, wouldn't you think you would check existing drugs, before looking to new.
The WHO is as incompetent as the UN.
Dont trust your government, we all have to to a point, but do what you can outside of that trust to save yourself and others, never underestimate the incompetence, no different to not owning a gun as the police have them to protect us. They can't be trusted with our health and this crisis demonstrates thats.
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Wuhan and the chinese were the first to discover these drugs, all other people claiming it are just lying, the studies were online in febuary, most global universities are conducting tests based on that information which is no longer online.
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Wuhan and the chinese were the first to discover these drugs, all other people claiming it are just lying, the studies were online in febuary, most global universities are conducting tests based on that information which is no longer online.
They have been trailing it in South Korea now for a while too. It's basically a global effort now with different countries trying different combinations of drugs. It's also why doctors in the US hoarded supplies for their family weeks ago,
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They have been trailing it in South Korea now for a while too. It's basically a global effort now with different countries trying different combinations of drugs. It's also why doctors in the US hoarded supplies for their family weeks ago,
The hoarding doesn't really matter,as as far as I'm aware they are dirt cheap drugs to produce and not complex, and only costs 4 dollars or so for the dose that beats Covid.Doesnt look to be an issue to set all the factories that can to produce a dose for every westerner alive to do so.900million people in the west x 4 dollars, roughly 4 billion dollars.Thats peanuts.All we need now is for enough studies to come in to set this production in motion.Its places like Africa, south America etc that might struggle infrastructure wise to get the doses out,and the west and richer east countries would take priority.
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So immediate death is seen as better than death from sides effects years later, its OK man, in all honesty that's why people are dying and that's why I have my hydroxychloroquine and azithromyocin as i dont trust government as they think similar to yourself i bought both drugs on the net over a month maybe 6 weeks ago, there're also HIV drugs kamera thats are working, along with Ivermectin etc.
People are dying due to herd incompetence not herd immunity, they are still dying as worldwide supply has dried up as countries look to nationalise supplies, Governments have thought like you do, until the body count got up high enough. Now the position of managing from a position of potential liability which all western governments mange from has changed as some governments and countries have little to no mortality compared to others and the difference is treatment. So now all the high body count nations have to look at themselves and think how many must die before we change practice, they have changed now but cannot secure supply.
This virus and the treatment options cannot save the very old who were dying anyway, and you need to get the drugs into you if your old before you get to far gone, yes drugs are being rationed due to lack of doses, basically if your not old and sick which is the high risk group they dont want to give it to you and in a few cases this has caused death, as you need to get the treatment into you before you get to respirator stage in most cases.
No doubt it is bad but ask yourselves how did the world health community let so many die when there was already viral medication available thats just wasn't approved to treat a new virus, wouldn't you think you would check existing drugs, before looking to new.
The WHO is as incompetent as the UN.
Dont trust your government, we all have to to a point, but do what you can outside of that trust to save yourself and others, never underestimate the incompetence, no different to not owning a gun as the police have them to protect us. They can't be trusted with our health and this crisis demonstrates thats.
Nations which are basically on war footing can't afford to keep people alive who are gonna be a societal drain, but at the same time they can't be seen as uncaring and just let people die.
The lockdowns and people not social distancing lets governments shift the blame back on the public, effectively meaning they are policing themselves. But those measures do actually work!
There is gonna be a body count at the end of this regardless. The chances of their being a government at the end of this increases dramatically by not letting the virus burn through the population.
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The hoarding doesn't really matter,as as far as I'm aware they are dirt cheap drugs to produce and not complex, and only costs 4 dollars or so for the dose that beats Covid.Doesnt look to be an issue to set all the factories that can to produce a dose for every westerner alive to do so.900million people in the west x 4 dollars, roughly 4 billion dollars.Thats peanuts.All we need now is for enough studies to come in to set this production in motion.Its places like Africa, south America etc that might struggle infrastructure wise to get the doses out,and the west and richer east countries would take priority.
I meant they were hoarding because it has been known for a while that it could be effective.
Again though all this needs time which is what the lockdown affords us. That's what some people aren't getting right now. They will also probably look to mass trail the drugs in africa and india before using it on the west. Again we need time.
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I meant they were hoarding because it has been known for a while that it could be effective.
Again though all this needs time which is what the lockdown affords us. That's what some people aren't getting right now. They will also probably look to mass trail the drugs in africa and india before using it on the west. Again we need time.
Agree.The fact the lockdown is buying us time is very underplayed in the media.
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Global supply is the issue at hand and globalisation, so many companies have folded as monopolies have been achieved by globalists, who will now struggle to manufacture requirement. As their business model is profit motivated not prevent global epidemic model, anothervreason to ditch globalisation in favour of nations ones this passes, none of the multi nationals pay tax anyway they just dodge it, hopefully this will be the rebirth of nationalism.
I agree with you the lockdown and social distancing is helping us buy time, but the real deal is a vaccine, which looks to be a while away, some studies are turning up indifferent results as the virus basically turns your body immune system against itself, whilst its been mapped, the results aren't consistent, meaning a vaccine can be more dangerous to some people than actually catching it from some limited studies I have been able to research.
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Where are the bodies???
What bodies & where ?.
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So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?
LOL
The chances of dying by being shot if you are black and living in Chicago is 1 in 1000 but I don't see anyone closing the entire city down over it.
Do you drive a car? well... did you know you have a 2 out of 3 chance of being involved in a drunk driving accident in your lifetime? BAN CARS!!
No. The entire world is closing down because there is a virus that is so new to science they don't have any idea how far the pandemic will go. A lifetime can be a last longer than 70 years. This virus has infected over a million folks and has killed tens of thousands of people in a couple of months . If the odds of getting shot in certain parts of Chicago are extremely high, you can always move. You cannot move away from COVID-19 because it is everywhere.
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No. The entire world is closing down because there is a virus that is so new to science they don't have any idea how far the pandemic will go. A lifetime can be a last longer than 70 years. This virus has infected over a million folks and has killed tens of thousands of people in a couple of months . If the odds of getting shot in certain parts of Chicago are extremely high, you can always move. You cannot move away from COVID-19 because it is everywhere.
It’s everywhere Thanks to China.
They either way created this Virus in a Lab or SHIT “Food” Market.
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Blahblahblah
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No. The entire world is closing down because there is a virus that is so new to science they don't have any idea how far the pandemic will go. A lifetime can be a last longer than 70 years. This virus has infected over a million folks and has killed tens of thousands of people in a couple of months . If the odds of getting shot in certain parts of Chicago are extremely high, you can always move. You cannot move away from COVID-19 because it is everywhere.
In the history of get big, nobody has been more wrong about more things than you. You’re essentially the Babe Ruth of being wrong. The fact that you have this opinion makes me even more positive in my own position.
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Bodies being left to rot on the streets of Ecuador:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html
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In the history of get big, nobody has been more wrong about more things than you. You’re essentially the Babe Ruth of being wrong. The fact that you have this opinion makes me even more positive in my own position.
;D
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Bodies being left to rot on the streets of Ecuador:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html
I imagine thats normal there
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No. The entire world is closing down because there is a virus that is so new to science they don't have any idea how far the pandemic will go. A lifetime can be a last longer than 70 years. This virus has infected over a million folks and has killed tens of thousands of people in a couple of months . If the odds of getting shot in certain parts of Chicago are extremely high, you can always move. You cannot move away from COVID-19 because it is everywhere.
Every flu season introduces a new virus to science. Novel coronaviruses are introduced all the time. What a load of drivel. Whenever anyone brings up the actual facts and statistics involved the only retort I ever read is some emotional plea like this.
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In the history of get big, nobody has been more wrong about more things than you. You’re essentially the Babe Ruth of being wrong. The fact that you have this opinion makes me even more positive in my own position.
X2. I love that part about "you can always move". What a clueless, heartless, selfish old bastard. Just like how he treated his dying wife going through dialysis. He really thinks that people can just up and move. That everyone living in some ghetto shithole wants to be there.
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Every flu season introduces a new virus to science. Novel coronaviruses are introduced all the time. What a load of drivel. Whenever anyone brings up the actual facts and statistics involved the only retort I ever read is some emotional plea like this.
Facts and statistics are great, but you need to use them not to look at what's happened, but what's to come.
More specifically you need to apply exponential growth to those facts and statistics to see where things could end up.
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X2. I love that part about "you can always move". What a clueless, heartless, selfish old bastard. Just like how he treated his dying wife going through dialysis. He really thinks that people can just up and move. That everyone living in some ghetto shithole wants to be there.
We won't ever forget you browsing for underage girls. Scumbag
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Facts and statistics are great, but you need to use them not to look at what's happened, but what's to come.
More specifically you need to apply exponential growth to those facts and statistics to see where things could end up.
Math is not getbigs strongpoint.
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We won't ever forget you browsing for underage girls. Scumbag
"We?" Keep feeding your fantasy pedo.
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"We?" Keep feeding your fantasy pedo.
Are you old bald creep or the clown doll looking one with pig tits? ;D
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Are you old bald creep or the clown doll looking one with pig tits? ;D
Why don't you post a pic and we'll compare?
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Why don't you post a pic and we'll compare?
stop following me around. its getting boring.
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Toughen up,be resilient & STOP bloody baby crying !.
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So, how may patients are hospitalized? What capacity are hospitals at? Ventilator capacity? Patient demographics?
It seems that the hospital ships aren't being flooded with regular patients because there is still capacity at hospitals. Same with the "Pop Up" facilities in California.
So the doom and apocalypse projections aren't coming to fruition.
April 30th - Rescind the federal restrictions, leave it up to the states.
Federal guidelines as such:
Wear mask
Wash hands constantly
Keep distance from other people
Shelter and protect the most vulnerable (older, multiple ailments etc)
Continue to work from home if possible.
Hardest hit states (New York, New Jersey) carry current heavy handed lock downs and travel restrictions.
Or just wait until we can hyper-inflate and print our way out of existing debt. Take your pick, I guess.
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Well.. its a good thing Pneumonia isn't a problem this year ???
WTF??
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I must be reading this wrong ???
https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fksnbf/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/
A Reddit user named RemoteControlledUser asked this question:
What changes are we going to have to make to how businesses operate to maintain our economy while providing social distancing?
Bill Gates’ answer:
The question of which businesses should keep going is tricky. Certainly food supply and the health system. We still need water, electricity and the internet. Supply chains for critical things need to be maintained. Countries are still figuring out what to keep running.
Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/bill-gates-calls-for-a-digital-certificate-to-identify-who-is-vaccinated/
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Well.. its a good thing Pneumonia isn't a problem this year ???
WTF??
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92138780_863912910790894_5434592436556922880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=5riDUJz6eQoAX_I0nIi&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=30f374ecf721ccb66a2f16744eacb743&oe=5EB1659B)
You know, my general assumption in this sort of situation is that if something seems very obvious to me but not obvious to a bunch of people who do something like this professionally, the issue is usually that I’m lacking some important context or piece of knowledge that they have.
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pneumonia deaths are probably the same as usual.... because if Covid-19 is detected, the cause of death is listed as Covid-19... as with any other deaths where Covid-19 is present...
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Bodies being left to rot on the streets of Ecuador:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html
I imagine thats normal there
I'm from Ecuador. Fuck no, that's not normal.
That's what a lot of getbiggers don't get. Weak healthcare systems are not prepared to deal with Covid-19.
Hospitals have been overwhelmed. There's a shortage of ventilators, hazmat suits, N95 masks, etc.
This also happened in Guayaquil, Ecuador.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jimmyjairala/status/1246152154697601024
https://mobile.twitter.com/jimmyjairala/status/1246152213661192192
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Well.. its a good thing Pneumonia isn't a problem this year ???
WTF??
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92138780_863912910790894_5434592436556922880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=5riDUJz6eQoAX_I0nIi&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=30f374ecf721ccb66a2f16744eacb743&oe=5EB1659B)
I believe this chart has already been called as a fake. I'm not sure why anyone would take the time to fake something like this though. :-\
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pneumonia deaths are probably the same as usual.... because if Covid-19 is detected, the cause of death is listed as Covid-19... as with any other deaths where Covid-19 is present...
Gotta keep those Rona numbers bumped up, keep the panic and fear going through the TV, keep the government in control of your movements, can't do that if the people know this isn't nearly as fatal as the media is portraying it.
Well.. its a good thing Pneumonia isn't a problem this year ???
WTF??
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92138780_863912910790894_5434592436556922880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=5riDUJz6eQoAX_I0nIi&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=30f374ecf721ccb66a2f16744eacb743&oe=5EB1659B)
:o
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I believe this chart has already been called as a fake. I'm not sure why anyone would take the time to fake something like this though. :-\
There you go. The chart is fake. Confirmation bias much?
Number of deaths is quite similar to previous years.
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
As a % of number of deaths is also similar to previous years.
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/images/NCHS13_small.gif)
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UK flu stats
(https://i.ibb.co/qBGVRF9/Screenshot-2020-04-05-at-16-24-33.png)
Flu stats started early and are now dropping, rising up to xmas and then declining, notice last years rise and fall
looks to me like the early flu diagnosis may have been covid19 before they knew what it was
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Well.. its a good thing Pneumonia isn't a problem this year ???
WTF??
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If you plot the red line with real data (https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html), you'll see is quite similar to the green line (season 2018-2019).
So yep, chart is fake.
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This beauty should never be covered by a mask!
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If you plot the red line with real data (https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html), you'll see is quite similar to the green line (season 2018-2019).
So yep, chart is fake.
Actually, it's not all that similar. Flu deaths seem to be. Pneumonia is not if you use the interactive graph and have fallen during peak season in comparison to previous years.
Percent number of deaths doesn't matter as that is kind of the point. If it was as much of a killer as it is supposedly is, then deaths would be dramatically up. They are not and actually significantly down across the nation.
Total deaths from this year: 40,000.
2019: 57,000
2018: 56,000
2017: 57,000
2016: 54,000
2015: 53,000
2014: 52,000
Looks like whoever made that graph should have the 2019-2020 graph closer to the 3000 line and tried to make it more dramatic though.
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf?fbclid=IwAR00Y5sgAh8Cby3QIOdN8EYi8NYyUqSbbFJSBsFleQyRmaVMrKq9E4qmNxs
This is disturbing as well and (once again) there are not a hysteria worthy amount of deaths anyway. Ask an honest doctor what they think about these guidelines and how they can skew the numbers.
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Actually, it's not all that similar. Flu deaths seem to be. Pneumonia is not if you use the interactive graph and have fallen during peak season in comparison to previous years.
Percent number of deaths doesn't matter as that is kind of the point. If it was as much of a killer as it is supposedly is, then deaths would be dramatically up. They are not and actually significantly down across the nation.
Total deaths from this year: 40,000.
2019: 57,000
2018: 56,000
2017: 57,000
2016: 54,000
2015: 53,000
2014: 52,000
Looks like whoever made that graph should have the 2019-2020 graph closer to the 3000 line and tried to make it more dramatic though.
Those are the weekly number of deaths in the US regardless of what caused them.
They're not the number of deaths from Pneumonia.
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I entered some of the data in Excel and made this chart. There's a decrease in week 12, but the fake chart that was posted was made with incorrect data for the last weeks.
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Those are the weekly number of deaths in the US regardless of what caused them.
They're not the number of deaths from Pneumonia.
That is what I stated. If the virus was as bad as they said deaths would be up is a point that many have made.
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I entered some of the data in Excel and made this chart. There's a decrease in week 12, but the fake chart that was posted was made with incorrect data for the last weeks.
Yep, he definitely made it look much more dramatic than what it is to prove a point that could have been potentially shown without it.
It will be interesting to see the next set of numbers that come out thats for sure as I'm not convinced one way or another with this. Only stance I have is that it is way overblown.
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https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostBottomSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons&fbclid=IwAR3yweD6nLn61eaCFB9z0tuvyyQc2-2eYOtLv-NeVXq4vxnkSVWjW3WzBzo
Again, numbers are going to be skewed with the way they are having them recorded.
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That is what I stated. If the virus was as bad as they said deaths would be up is a point that many have made.
Looking at one single week is pointless.
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I entered some of the data in Excel and made this chart. There's a decrease in week 12, but the fake chart that was posted was made with incorrect data for the last weeks.
So you're saying the CDC made a fake chart? Its off their website... check in the link in the top left corner of the image
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Why would you remove people with pre-existing conditions from the statistics? ???
Are you trying to imply Covid-19 it's not a big deal because most healthy, young people don't die from it?
It's the sheer number of people with and without pre-existing conditions what saturates the healthcare system.
Maybe he's asking why the focus of isolation isn't on those people.
There must be a good answer, and it'd help if more of us could understand it (that answer).
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So you're saying the CDC made a fake chart? Its off their website... check in the link in the top left corner of the image
You really think I said that? ???
Please check both links. The chart is nowhere to be found.
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This whole thing is a fraud. ::)
New York may already be at apex of cases… – Cuomo
Direct link:
https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs (https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs)
Reporter asks ‘you are using only 16,000 beds, and you said you would need at least 110,000.’ As Tucker Carlson discussed Friday night, hospitalization rates nationwide are only about 15-20% of what the models predicted. ::)
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el numero uno, can you please look at post above... The one quoting your response to Thin Lizzy.
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You know, my general assumption in this sort of situation is that if something seems very obvious to me but not obvious to a bunch of people who do something like this professionally, the issue is usually that I’m lacking some important context or piece of knowledge that they have.
The data input can be correct but this is why when something bucks a trend the data owner needs to investigate to validate the data and then stand up to scrutiny when questioned over why it changed.
Without context i could say there were less older people that year (old and Pne go together), the weather was much warmer than usual, a health care shortage mean less people were diagnosed, a new vaccine was created and drastically reduced cases etc. In other words, it's pretty damn useless.
Hope that might help?
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Maybe he's asking why the focus of isolation isn't on those people.
There must be a good answer, and it'd help if more of us could understand it (that answer).
No, he claims Covid-19 is a hoax.
But I get your point.
From what I've read, there are some countries who are just isolating the elderly, in the hopes that young people will tolerate the disease and build herd immunity. A few countries like Brazil have decided to not do anything about it, no lockdowns, no restrictions, nada.
Not sure how that will work out.
Apparently, experts think Coronavirus can end up infecting too many people at once, in which case, even if you isolate the vulnerable you still end up overwhelming the system.
I think countries who are not following the WHO guidelines will serve as a good (but not perfect) indicator of if lockdowns were necessary at all.
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Proof of the lie and games going on. :o
CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed.
The problem with making informed decisions about coronavirus is that we don’t have a whole lot of data on it at the moment.
The data that we do have, meanwhile, could end up being terminally skewed, particularly the data that’s been coming out of China.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance on determining COVID-19 as a cause of death isn’t going to help those numbers.
Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.
Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause.
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Full story and video:
https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=whatfinger (https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=whatfinger)
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This whole thing is a fraud. ::)
New York may already be at apex of cases… – Cuomo
Direct link:
https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs (https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs)
Reporter asks ‘you are using only 16,000 beds, and you said you would need at least 110,000.’ As Tucker Carlson discussed Friday night, hospitalization rates nationwide are only about 15-20% of what the models predicted. ::)
You are a douche bag. This is dangerous propoganda.
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No, he claims Covid-19 is a hoax.
But I get your point.
From what I've read, there are some countries who are just isolating the elderly, in the hopes that young people will tolerate the disease and build herd immunity. A few countries like Brazil have decided to not do anything about it, no lock downs, no restrictions.
Not sure how that will work out.
Apparently, experts think Coronavirus can end up infecting too many people at once, in which case, even if you isolate the vulnerable you still end up overwhelming the system.
I think countries who are not following the WHO guidelines will serve as a good (but not peerfect) indicator of if lockdowns were necessary at all.
I didn't know that about Brazil. That does seem crazy, at least at first glance. Just due to the number of elderly, if nothing else. I will look into it right now.
To be fair to Thin Lizzy, though, he's made some good points and his posts have actually improved my mood (this is depressing for most of us, i'm sure). Also his questions about the timeline have gone unanswered from what I've seen.
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stop following me around. its getting boring.
Typical anonymous cowardly keyboard warrior. You start shit with me and then when you get it back you immediately starting whining and crying.
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I'm thinking it's very real and very infectious. But the response is increasing the danger, big time.
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The best experts are guessing at the numbers, because that's what's available. What medical science, our leadership and the media report are best their guesses based on whatever information they have, which may or may not be accurate. Anyone who still thinks the novel coronavirus is a total hoax should get their heads examined. This shit is real. It's no hoax. The entire world does not conspire to create something that doesn't exist. If in the end, the predictions were overstated, that is a much better situation than if they were understated and people got sick or died unnecessarily as a result.
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The best experts are guessing at the numbers, because that's what's available. What medical science, our leadership and the media report are best their guesses based on whatever information they have, which may or may not be accurate. Anyone who still thinks the novel coronavirus is a total hoax should get their heads examined. This shit is real. It's no hoax. The entire world does not conspire to create something that doesn't exist. If in the end, the predictions were overstated, that is a much better situation than if they were understated and people got sick or died unnecessarily as a result.
I think people are saying the response is a hoax or somehow hoax- like, rather than the thing itself.
And when the economy is being wrecked, people had absolutely better question everything. I don't blame those who question, at all. I'd be freaked out if no one was doing that.
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Proof of the lie and games going on. :o
CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed.
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Full story and video:
https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=whatfinger (https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/?utm_source=whatfinger)
Posted this about 8 posts up.
Also here is the direct link for CDC guidelines. Very, very open to manipulation
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1fs5kAvKlZjHp4I93kc-FBujCRPQlg6YYv5lKfXeBUGoRX0qGiku5Z0CE
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I think people are saying the response is a hoax or somehow hoax- like, rather than the thing itself.
And when the economy is being wrecked, people had absolutely better question everything. I don't blame those who question, at all. I'd be freaked out if no one was doing that.
Without questions, there's absolute gullibility. So yeah, questioning is good. It is best though when someone clarifies that it is a question and not a statement. Some of us older more senile folks get confused otherwise. ;D
Not sure a response can be a hoax in this case. A hoax is a humorous or malicious deception. Over responding doesn't seem either humorous or malicious and it is based more on perception than deception.
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Without questions, there's absolute gullibility. So yeah, questioning is good. It is best though when someone clarifies that it is a question and not a statement. Some of us older more senile folks get confused otherwise. ;D
Not sure a response can be a hoax in this case. A hoax is a humorous or malicious deception. Over responding doesn't seem either humorous or malicious and it is based more on perception than deception.
Destruction of the economy without clear explanation could be seen as malicious, and increasing danger to the vulnerable by not focusing our limited resources on them can also be seen as malicious.
If it is perception and not deception, then why can't it be explained?
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The best experts are guessing at the numbers, because that's what's available. What medical science, our leadership and the media report are best their guesses based on whatever information they have, which may or may not be accurate. Anyone who still thinks the novel coronavirus is a total hoax should get their heads examined. This shit is real. It's no hoax. The entire world does not conspire to create something that doesn't exist. If in the end, the predictions were overstated, that is a much better situation than if they were understated and people got sick or died unnecessarily as a result.
The Virus isn’t a Hoax - I believe it’s real & Dangerous.
There’s enough info out there all saying very much the same things.
These are the High Risk People
1. The Elderly Especially with underlying health issues
2. People with Diabetes
3. Those overweight/ obese
4. Those with heart / lung issues
It is Predominantly those in that group who are in ICU & a percentage of those are Dying.
Unfortunately they would also be highly at risk from the Flu Virus.
There are Known & Now used Medications that work within 2-4days On Majority of people.
Isolating those in the High Risk category’s Is Definitely a Good & Sensible Idea.
Isolating everyone & shutting nearly everything down is Not a Good Idea & as time goes on
More & more are questioning the validity & Reasons as all are bing effected by this response
And Very Few in a Positive Way.
Unfortunately some young & otherwise healthy people may/will die that will be a tiny %
No not at all pleasant if it’s one of our nearest & dearest - Though there’s always a risk
We will die of something unexpected from accident to health issues.
I’m not buying this 100% have to isolate & Lockdown Etc Business is entirely necessary
Or of benefit.
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Interesting vid. Glad more scientists, etc. are speaking out.
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The Virus isn’t a Hoax - I believe it’s real & Dangerous.
There’s enough info out there all saying very much the same things.
These are the High Risk People
1. The Elderly Especially with underlying health issues
2. People with Diabetes
3. Those overweight/ obese
4. Those with heart / lung issues
It is Predominantly those in that group who are in ICU & a percentage of those are Dying.
Unfortunately they would also be highly at risk from the Flu Virus.
There are Known & Now used Medications that work within 2-4days On Majority of people.
Isolating those in the High Risk category’s Is Definitely a Good & Sensible Idea.
Isolating everyone & shutting nearly everything down is Not a Good Idea & as time goes on
More & more are questioning the validity & Reasons as all are bing effected by this response
And Very Few in a Positive Way.
Unfortunately some young & otherwise healthy people may/will die that will be a tiny %
No not at all pleasant if it’s one of our nearest & dearest - Though there’s always a risk
We will die of something unexpected from accident to health issues.
I’m not buying this 100% have to isolate & Lockdown Etc Business is entirely necessary
Or of benefit.
100% Exactly
Actually just found out from a close older friend that his mom just passed.
She's been in a 24 hour care nursing home in NYC for the last year since her husband passed.
Prior week got diagnosed with COVID (she's in her mid 90's and been in poor health)
This last Friday the nurses said she fully recovered from the virus - all symptoms gone (no cough, full oxygen levels, no fever, nothing)
This morning (Sunday) her heart just gave out.
-- Was listed as dying from COVID
WTF?
My friend is the first one that still says this whole locking down of the global economy is a sham and continues to see empty hospitals in NYC even though his mother died
Its a global scam and the sheep are eating it up
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The Virus isn’t a Hoax - I believe it’s real & Dangerous.
There’s enough info out there all saying very much the same things.
These are the High Risk People
1. The Elderly Especially with underlying health issues
2. People with Diabetes
3. Those overweight/ obese
4. Those with heart / lung issues
It is Predominantly those in that group who are in ICU & a percentage of those are Dying.
Unfortunately they would also be highly at risk from the Flu Virus.
There are Known & Now used Medications that work within 2-4days On Majority of people.
Isolating those in the High Risk category’s Is Definitely a Good & Sensible Idea.
Isolating everyone & shutting nearly everything down is Not a Good Idea & as time goes on
More & more are questioning the validity & Reasons as all are bing effected by this response
And Very Few in a Positive Way.
Unfortunately some young & otherwise healthy people may/will die that will be a tiny %
No not at all pleasant if it’s one of our nearest & dearest - Though there’s always a risk
We will die of something unexpected from accident to health issues.
I’m not buying this 100% have to isolate & Lockdown Etc Business is entirely necessary
Or of benefit.
I don't disagree with you. Germany supposedly has a very low percentage of deaths from the novel coronavirus. Why do you suppose this is? I just today saw a photo of a Munich street with almost no one present and those few who were, were all wearing masks. In contrast their was a photo of a U.S. city street in a location where people are supposed to be staying home. The street was crowded with people almost none of which were wearing any visible protective gear. Could it be that some people are taking this more seriously than others?
How is it where you are? Are there many people out and about and are they wearing masks? Where I live, it seems like there is an abundance of people at the grocery store and only a few are wearing any manner of protection. So far, I've been one of them, since I've yet to wear the mask my son-in-law gave me. One of my stupid reasons for this is that it is a hospital grade mask and I feel like people will question why I have one when they are in very short supply and should be reserved for others who are on the front lines.
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I think some wear a mask so the paranoid freaks around them don't spaz out.
No, but also if one has it (but isn't with symptoms, so wouldn't know) it might keep a vulnerable person safe.
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This whole thing is a fraud. ::)
New York may already be at apex of cases… – Cuomo
Direct link:
https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs (https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs)
Reporter asks ‘you are using only 16,000 beds, and you said you would need at least 110,000.’ As Tucker Carlson discussed Friday night, hospitalization rates nationwide are only about 15-20% of what the models predicted. ::)
That might be because lockdown and distancing measures worked.
We will know in a few months what happens if you half ass those measures. Belarus, Sweden, Holland have gone with different strategies. Also Brazil and some 3rd world countries have poor measures in place. They will be the acid test.
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I don't disagree with you. Germany supposedly has a very low percentage of deaths from the novel coronavirus. Why do you suppose this is? I just today saw a photo of a Munich street with almost no one present and those few who were, were all wearing masks. In contrast their was a photo of a U.S. city street in a location where people are supposed to be staying home. The street was crowded with people almost none of which were wearing any visible protective gear. Could it be that some people are taking this more seriously than others?
How is it where you are? Are there many people out and about and are they wearing masks? Where I live, it seems like there is an abundance of people at the grocery store and only a few are wearing any manner of protection. So far, I've been one of them, since I've yet to wear the mask my son-in-law gave me. One of my stupid reasons for this is that it is a hospital grade mask and I feel like people will question why I have one when they are in very short supply and should be reserved for others who are on the front lines.
I live in a small village & a town a couple of miles away - not many folk out couples / dog walkers/ & runners you see - most people I see are keeping a distance if they talk to somebody- Not many wearing masks around here probably 2 out of 10 at most - see a few more wearing them in the stores.
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This whole thing is a fraud. ::)
New York may already be at apex of cases… – Cuomo
Direct link:
https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs (https://youtu.be/J3npY02SECs)
Reporter asks ‘you are using only 16,000 beds, and you said you would need at least 110,000.’ As Tucker Carlson discussed Friday night, hospitalization rates nationwide are only about 15-20% of what the models predicted. ::)
Fraud is the correct term:
We’re starting to get a picture of where these cases (positive test results) are occurring.
In my estimation, Chinese nationals would come to New York City for two reasons: business or tourism. Neither of those involve going to the fucking South Bronx. However, I’m sure someone, including the naive doofuses on this board, will come up with some idiotic excuse for why there’s more cases there than in Manhattan where the Chinese nationals would actually go.
BRONX RESIDENTS TWICE AS LIKELY TO DIE FROM COVID-19 IN NYC
http://thecity.nyc/2020/04/bronx-residents-twice-as-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-in-nyc.html
In The Bronx, which has long grappled with lower-than-average life expectancy and high incidence of chronic health conditions like asthma and diabetes, those infected with coronavirus die at a rate three times higher than those who live just a river away in Manhattan.
“Manhattan has more people but The Bronx has more than double the fatalities from COVID-19,” noted Councilmember Ritchie Torres (D-The Bronx), who tested positive for the virus last month and has asthma.
Pre-existing Conditions
Public health experts say it’s likely The Bronx’s elevated death rate is tied to the borough’s high rates of diabetes, asthma and hypertension, some of the nine illnesses linked with coronavirus complications.
Despite longtime efforts by health advocates and elected officials to change course, the borough ranks last among New York State’s 62 counties in the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s survey of health outcomes, including premature death.
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Typical anonymous cowardly keyboard warrior. You start shit with me and then when you get it back you immediately starting whining and crying.
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That pic out your wank bank creep?
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Your pedophile fantasies are quite disturbing.
Still waiting for you to show your face, coward.
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Your pedophile fantasies are quite disturbing.
Still waiting for you to show your face, coward.
Ok though guy.
Just gotta be made homeless first so you can beat me up ;D
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In other news, Getbig gimmick accounts are on the rise. :D
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In other news, Getbig gimmick accounts are on the rise. :D
If your referring to me I am just a long time lurker.
Been reading this soap opera since mower had his sammich.
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In other news, Getbig gimmick accounts are on the rise. :D
Yes it certainly appears that way 🙄
Why such people want these accounts just to be fuckwits is beyond me
Must be very sad Deranged souls to get enjoyment from being retarded fuckwits.
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Well, I guess Getbig has settled it. We no long need to listen to scientist and doctors. A bunch of guys you went to high school with did all the research.
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Well, I guess Getbig has settled it. We no long need to listen to scientist and doctors. A bunch of guys you went to high school with did all the research.
👍🏻 Yes & Bill Gates - So we’ve No need to worry then.
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Well, I guess Getbig has settled it. We no long need to listen to scientist and doctors. A bunch of guys you went to high school with did all the research.
Doctors and scientists are not perfect and infallible. Every hear of quacks and Frankenstein?
Some of these doctors are not Gods or wizards.
Most of the doomsday stuff is simply not happening according to the modeling they sold us on. Yes bad, bot not the "were all gonna die" nonsense presented.
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Well, I guess Getbig has settled it. We no long need to listen to scientist and doctors. A bunch of guys you went to high school with did all the research.
Yeah and I suppose you believed in every climate model that has ever been made.... Prior of course to every climate model that has ever been made being proved incorrect......
Very reminiscent of these times and all the wrong coronavirus modelling. And media hysteria.
Virus will be over soon, it's already on the way out.
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Can I ask a question?
Considering the main epicenters of Covid-19 in the USA so far have been Washington, New York and New Jersey, why precisely are those governors and legislators not being scrutinized for the situation?
Instead, the focus seems to be only on other states run by Republicans.
You want a good comparison?
Here's one.
New York and Florida have a similar population size.
The current situation between the two is as follows:
New York
Total Covid-19 cases: 123,018
Total Covid-19 deaths: 4,159
Florida
Total Covid-19 cases: 12,350
Total Covid-19 deaths: 221
I would also point out that Florida also has a much larger elderly population.
So New York, despite having a similar population to Florida (smaller actually) has ten times the number of cases eighteen times the number of deaths.
Maybe Mayer de Blasio should have not been so vocal about telling New Yorkers to just go about their lives and that Covid-19 wasn't something to be concerned about?
And yes, you can find video of this on youtube.
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Doctors and scientists are not perfect and infallible. Every hear of quacks and Frankenstein?
Some of these doctors are not Gods or wizards.
Most of the doomsday stuff is simply not happening according to the modeling they sold us on. Yes bad, bot not the "were all gonna die" nonsense presented.
-can't believe we actually agree on something. Never saw that coming. :o
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-can't believe we actually agree on something. Never saw that coming. :o
You would be surprised. I just like busting your balls - cause its fun and its get big. :D
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Can I ask a question?
Considering the main epicenters of Covid-19 in the USA so far have been Washington, New York and New Jersey, why precisely are those governors and legislators not being scrutinized for the situation?
Instead, the focus seems to be only on other states run by Republicans.
You want a good comparison?
Here's one.
New York and Florida have a similar population size.
The current situation between the two is as follows:
New York
Total Covid-19 cases: 123,018
Total Covid-19 deaths: 4,159
Florida
Total Covid-19 cases: 12,350
Total Covid-19 deaths: 221
I would also point out that Florida also has a much larger elderly population.
So New York, despite having a similar population to Florida (smaller actually) has ten times the number of cases eighteen times the number of deaths.
Maybe Mayer de Blasio should have not been so vocal about telling New Yorkers to just go about their lives and that Covid-19 wasn't something to be concerned about?
And yes, you can find video of this on youtube.
The numbers are a scam just like everything else. CDC guidelines require that any deaths in the presence of a corona positive test be listed as dying because of corona. The same thing was done in Italy.
The reason you’re seeing the outsized numbers in New York City is because that’s where the powers that be want the newly printed money funneled.
Far be it for me to stick up for De Blasio, but if what we were told was true and it was so contagious, people would’ve been dropping dead in January and February when there no restrictions in place. They weren’t. That’s why there was little concern at the time. The numbers only started spiking when they started large scale testing and labeling every death with a Corona positive test as “Complications” of Corona.
That’s how the testing scam works. It also explains why there are so many positives without symptoms.
Currently, there is no mainstream explanation for this.
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The numbers are a scam just like everything else. CDC guidelines require that any deaths in the presence of a corona positive test be listed as dying because of corona. The same thing was done in Italy.
The reason you’re seeing the outsized numbers in New York City is because that’s where the powers that be want the newly printed money funneled.
Far be it for me to stick up for De Blasio, but if what we were told was true and it was so contagious, people would’ve been dropping dead in January and February when there no restrictions in place. They weren’t. That’s why there was little concern at the time. The numbers only started spiking when they started large scale testing and labeling every death with a Corona positive test as “Complications” of Corona.
That’s how the testing scam works. It also explains why there are so many positives without symptoms.
Currently, there is no mainstream explanation for this.
When California had its first homeless person die on March 17, the individual tested positive almost 2 weeks prior, the thought was they were going to soon start stacking bodies from the homeless community.
Surprisingly the death toll never took off. Somehow the community that was the most close knit, in terms of the proximity of the living conditions, least sanitary with little personal hygiene and would have the least amount of protection against a respiratory infection was not obliterated.
Obviously this is a serious issue but it’s not what they’ve made it out to be in.
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You would be surprised. I just like busting your balls - cause its fun and its get big. :D
Same.
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When California had its first homeless person die on March 17, the individual tested positive almost 2 weeks prior, the thought was they were going to soon start stacking bodies from the homeless community.
Surprisingly the death toll never took off. Somehow the community that was the most close knit, in terms of the proximity of the living conditions, least sanitary with little personal hygiene and would have the least amount of protection against a respiratory infection was not obliterated.
Obviously this is a serious issue but it’s not what they’ve made it out to be in.
At this point the only thing I believe is that there was a problem with a flu bug in China. As far as I’m concerned, everything else is suspect.
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When California had its first homeless person die on March 17, the individual tested positive almost 2 weeks prior, the thought was they were going to soon start stacking bodies from the homeless community.
Surprisingly the death toll never took off. Somehow the community that was the most close knit, in terms of the proximity of the living conditions, least sanitary with little personal hygiene and would have the least amount of protection against a respiratory infection was not obliterated.
Obviously this is a serious issue but it’s not what they’ve made it out to be in.
This is very interesting. Maybe it's safer to be homeless. Not that I'd want to test that out.
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This is very interesting. Maybe it's safer to be homeless. Not that I'd want to test that out.
You might actually be safer in one of those tiny house communities Prime.
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You might actually be safer in one of those tiny house communities Prime.
Safer than being in the open air, as in homeless? You are probably right about this. The likelihood I would become homeless is pretty remote though. Never-the-less, some of those tiny houses are interesting because of their efficiency.
This compact place was redone by Chip and Joanna Gaines on the show Fixer Upper. It's pretty cool for one person.
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Can't keep up with those full page conspiracy theories.
Nobody died? Virus originated from the Loch Ness monster?
Please update me on the latest...
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Safer than being in the open air, as in homeless? You are probably right about this. The likelihood I would become homeless is pretty remote though. Never-the-less, some of those tiny houses are interesting because of their efficiency.
This compact place was redone by Chip and Joanna Gaines on the show Fixer Upper. It's pretty cool for one person.
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IT IS,,,I LIKE THE INSIDE
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Can't keep up with those full page conspiracy theories.
Nobody died? Virus originated from the Loch Ness monster?
Please update me on the latest...
The whole world is working together, we can all live in peace!
China will fix their mistakes and soon everyone will be happy being miserable at work.
You can just refer back to this instead of posting from now on.
Thanks!
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Safer than being in the open air, as in homeless? You are probably right about this. The likelihood I would become homeless is pretty remote though. Never-the-less, some of those tiny houses are interesting because of their efficiency.
This compact place was redone by Chip and Joanna Gaines on the show Fixer Upper. It's pretty cool for one person.
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Nice try, that’s not exactly a “tiny home”. I meant given your living situation, with your daughter and grandchildren and soon to be great grandchild, it might be safer for you to be on your own in a small place as opposed to your current home.
I referred to the tiny homes because Oregon has a tiny home community set up for homeless people. They are transition homes.
Stay safe. Weirdo.
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Destroying the global economy and taking on generational debt to be paid for by the young just to save the very old and already sick will be seen differently post crisis, I'm not saying i feel that way, I'm just saying that peoples perceptions will change, its too early to see whether this will effect property values but where it does and it goes from being a health crisis to a full blown economic crisis, then hang on people, corporate behaviour is already changing and becoming more predatory, there are already many stories of contracts being pulled and deposits lost as many buyers feel the drop will be far more than the deposit offered. If unemployment doesn't bounce back to pre epidemic levels, hold on.
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Destroying the global economy and taking on generational debt to be paid for by the young just to save the very old and already sick will be seen differently post crisis, I'm not saying i feel that way, I'm just saying that peoples perceptions will change, its too early to see whether this will effect property values but where it does and it goes from being a health crisis to a full blown economic crisis, then hang on people, corporate behaviour is already changing and becoming more predatory, there are already many stories of contracts being pulled and deposits lost as many buyers feel the drop will be far more than the deposit offered. If unemployment doesn't bounce back to pre epidemic levels, hold on.
It’s like stopping a freight train. It will get going again but it will take time to get it where it was.
I know people who have been laid off and were told that it was a permanent layoff. Good luck with the housing market staying stable.
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And yet the entire world agree that this is for the best.
Well the entire world, expect for a few Getbiggers.
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How is it where you are? Are there many people out and about and are they wearing masks? Where I live, it seems like there is an abundance of people at the grocery store and only a few are wearing any manner of protection. So far, I've been one of them, since I've yet to wear the mask my son-in-law gave me. One of my stupid reasons for this is that it is a hospital grade mask and I feel like people will question why I have one when they are in very short supply and should be reserved for others who are on the front lines.
Surgical mask is for 1X use only !.
It's bloody embarrassing that 'mighty' U.S. can't produce masks & ventilators for your own people ::).
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And yet the entire world agree that this is for the best.
Well the entire world, expect for a few Getbiggers.
Looks like somebody has a few free minutes in between his ninth and 10th meals of the day.
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Looks like somebody has a few free minutes in between his ninth and 10th meals of the day.
I only eat twice a day.
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I only eat twice a day.
Yeah, but those meals take four hours each.
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Yeah, but those meals take four hours each.
I got time these days in isolation.
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Yeah, but those meals take four hours each.
Americans Are Excessively Eating, Drinking, Smoking Pot, Playing Video Games And Watching Porn While Quarantined
Since you’re at home under quarantine and surfing social media out of boredom, you have probably come across this coronavirus hustle-porn tweet or something similar:
If you don’t come out of this quarantine with either:
1.) a new skill
2.) starting what you’ve been putting off like a new business
3.) more knowledge
You didn’t ever lack the time, you lacked the discipline
Whether the tweet was meant to be motivational or self-serving, the message is a tone-deaf directive to the millions of Americans who are desperately trying to cope with their new challenging reality.
Ten million people have filed for unemployment over the last couple of weeks of March. It's predicted by the Federal Reserve Bank that nearly 50 million people will lose their jobs by the summertime. People are frantically worrying that they will be unable to make their rent or mortgage payments. Some fear that they may lose their jobs. Parents are stressing over how to work at home, while educating and keeping their children busy now that the schools are closed.
If you have the luxury to not worry about finances and don’t have any pressing issues to immediately sort out, it is then reasonable to allocate a portion of time toward productive endeavors. At a time like this, it's unhelpful to chastise people who are just trying to hang on and make it through the day.
Conducting research on the activities of people self-quarantined at home shows interesting insights into the behavior of Americans. Most people are not heeding the hustle-porn huckster’s advice; they are choosing to decompress instead.
It looks like Americans are collectively channeling their inner-slacker attitude. People are consuming more alcohol, smoking weed, playing video games, eating a lot of junk food, binge-watching Netflix and adult films more than ever before.
In a quirky irony that highlights the craziness of the times, liquor stores are open as they’re deemed “essential.” According to Nielsen, a nearly 100-year-old marketing research and ratings firm, studies show that “alcohol sales were up 55% in the week ending March 21.” Nielsen also found that amount of spirits sold—such as tequila, gin and pre-mixed cocktails— skyrocketed 75% compared to March 2019. Wine sales rose 66%, beer sales popped 42% and online alcohol sales grew by an astounding 243% from last year at this time.
According to investment advice site Motley Fool, “During the first few weeks of the month, cannabis sales were soaring and spiked around the middle of the month as fears heightened that people would be confined to their homes in an effort to fight the coronavirus pandemic.” Marijuana sales are high in a number of states where it's legal.
Illinois marijuana dispensaries, which have remained open, sold almost $36 million worth of legal weed in March. This happened during a time period in which the state shut almost all other stores and ordered people to remain indoors. The Los Angeles Times reported that “amid coronavirus siege, California cannabis sales soared.”
Pornhub, if you can’t tell by its name, is a popular online adult film site visited by roughly 120 million viewers every day. Now that Americans are self-quarantining at home, Pornhub has seen a large rise in traffic—up 11.6%.
According to Today, “Many Americans may find their bodies flabbier and less healthy when they finally emerge from the Great Quarantine of 2020.” Bloomberg reported that less people are consuming healthy foods and “are loading up on shelf-stable items from canned meat and soup to pretzels and Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, as they comply with orders to stay home.” Studies show an increase in the consumption of potato chips, Oreos, Spam, burgers, pretzels and other comfort foods. Psychology Today refers to the weight that will be gained as the "quarantine 15."
During the week of March 16, U.S. consumers streamed 156.1 billion minutes of content. That was twice as much as last year at this time. Almost 30% of streaming was Netflix programming—including a lot of Tiger King—and 20% was YouTube viewership.
Due to school closures, kids and young adults—from elementary school to college—find themselves home. As you can imagine, video games are the go-to diversion and a way to play online and still socialize with friends. To capture the amount of time spent gaming, digital magazine Mic claims, “So many people are gaming in quarantine, servers are struggling to keep up.”
It will be interesting to see what happens as the weeks and months pass by and we’re still on lockdown. Could this trend of eating, drinking, smoking weed and watching television and porn continue? Or will we take the man on Twitter’s advice and try to do something constructive?
We’ve already seen some people become so bored that they’ve accomplished some brilliant, wonderful, daring, quirky and lovely things.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/04/06/americans-are-excessively-eating-drinking-smoking-pot-playing-video-games-and-watching-porn-while-quarantined/#749a42c8404e
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What the hell are you talking about?
Now is a perfect time to do anything at all.
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Does anyone know lets say we do have some kind of bad recession. Will that affect pensions? Like lets say someone has a pension from a former employer and retired like 20 years ago, if the company this person retired from hits the dirt could said pension be cut off?
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Does anyone know lets say we do have some kind of bad recession. Will that affect pensions? Like lets say someone has a pension from a former employer and retired like 20 years ago, if the company this person retired from hits the dirt could said pension be cut off?
Pensions aren’t guaranteed bro, you know this. If it is a state/government based pension a person is probably in good shape, but any private pension can be eliminated if the economics don’t support it.
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Pensions aren’t guaranteed bro, you know this. If it is a state/government based pension a person is probably in good shape, but any private pension can be eliminated if the economics don’t support it.
I believe public pensions will be the next crisis.
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Does anyone know lets say we do have some kind of bad recession. Will that affect pensions? Like lets say someone has a pension from a former employer and retired like 20 years ago, if the company this person retired from hits the dirt could said pension be cut off?
Yes, most pensions are based off contributions, which are then invested into the stock market. If the market take shit, the pension takes a shit as well.
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Love seeing my fans putting in work on Saturday nights over me. Yes!!! Who won again?
In hindsight not the Wisest Words ?
As it Turned Out - “Who won again ?” Certainly not You
Run to the Mods & off the board not to Return.
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Bronx Zoo Tiger has Tested Positive for COVID-19
Nadia, as seen on Animal Planet’s THE ZOO, has tested positive for the novel coronavirus and six other large cats have developed symptoms—all are expected to recover, according to zoo officials.
Today, the Wildlife Conservation Society’s Bronx Zoo released a statement that Nadia, a 4-year-old female Malayan tiger at the Bronx Zoo, has tested positive for COVID-19. Nadia was featured in the 2017 series premiere of Animal Planet's THE ZOO, which took audiences behind the scenes of the world-renowned Bronx Zoo.
According to zoo officials, they tested Nadia out of an abundance of caution and will ensure any knowledge gained about COVID-19 will contribute to the world’s continuing understanding of this novel coronavirus. The positive COVID-19 test for the tiger was confirmed by USDA’s National Veterinary Services Laboratory, based in Ames, Iowa.
Nadia, her sister Azul, two Amur tigers, and three African lions had developed a dry cough, one of the symptoms of COVID-19. “Though they have experienced some decrease in appetite, the cats at the Bronx Zoo are otherwise doing well under veterinary care and are bright, alert, and interactive with their keepers,” said zoo officials. It is not known how this disease will develop in big cats since different species can react differently to novel infections, but the zoo will continue to monitor them closely and anticipate full recoveries.
So far, none of the zoo’s snow leopards, cheetahs, clouded leopard, Amur leopard, puma, or serval are showing any signs of illness. Zoo officials said the cats were infected by a person caring for them who was asymptomatically infected with the virus or before that person developed symptoms. However, appropriate preventive measures are now in place for all staff who are caring for the cats, and the other cats in our four WCS zoos, to prevent further exposure of any other of zoo cats.
https://www.discovery.com/guy-has-tested-positive-for-covid-19
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Pensions aren’t guaranteed bro, you know this. If it is a state/government based pension a person is probably in good shape, but any private pension can be eliminated if the economics don’t support it.
Would a pension from Lockheed be considered private or state/government?
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My argument from day 1 has been the key data is overall deaths. You are either dead or not and it can't be influenced or biased.
'Rona' is supposed to be knocking more people off than usual. If it's really all that bad we will see an uptick trend in deaths that overshadows any other influencing factors.
I searched and got the raw data for the UK total deaths by week and tabled it up. I will keep an eye on their future reports.
Data is reported from Jan 2020 up to the 20th March 2020.
Jan 2020 = -1,409 vs the previous 5yr average
Feb 2020 = -2,696 vs the previous 5yr average
Mar 20th 2020 = -717 vs the previous 5yr average
**data set shows first 3 months tracking below the total death average over the previous 5yrs.
It's safe to say we didn't see any impact in Jan or Feb.
March can be argued coming out of Winter, flu season influences to the data reduce so we should see a balancing out anyway. Therefore i don't see the uptick being influenced with 'hidden' Rona deaths.
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Prisoner Uses Smuggled Cellphone to Beg for Help With Coronavirus on Facebook Live
The video begins with a man wearing a surgical mask and a stocking cap staring directly into the camera. The footage is blurry and vertical, like it was filmed on a cellphone.
“Shit you know I don’t even know how to start this,” he says. “Shit was all good like a couple days ago, right? So all of a sudden, out of the blue, fucking everybody just fucking dying and getting sick and shit. Like, this shit serious as fuck. Like, they literally leaving us in here to die.”
VICE News has identified the man as 31-year-old Aaron DeShawn Campbell, an inmate at FCI Elkton, a federal prison in Ohio where three people have died from COVID-19 over the past week and at least 20 others are currently hospitalized.
The video, posted publicly on Facebook Live on Friday afternoon from an account with the name “Ace Sanchez,” was a desperate plea for help by Campbell, who was willing to risk showing his face and admit to possession of a smuggled cell phone in order to alert the public about the dire situation inside his prison, his brother and and mother told VICE News.
In the video, which runs for over 20 minutes, Campbell films the inside of his housing unit, showing men lying down on bunks who he says are sick with coronavirus symptoms. He says a prison nurse recently told him “half the unit is about to die.” He also records a courtyard in the prison and points out a tent on a basketball court that he claims was set up to store the bodies of men who died from COVID-19.
Bureau of Prisons spokesperson Sue Allison told VICE News the video “is currently under investigation,” and denied that Campbell or other men shown in the video are sick.
“We can confirm that after identifying the inmates in the video, none of them were symptomatic of COVID-19,” Allison said in a statement.
Joseph Mayle, a correctional counselor at Elkton and the president of the union for the prison’s staff and guards, would not “confirm or deny” that footage was shot inside the prison, but he rebutted specific claims made by Campbell.
"The tent on the basketball court at first was going to be a testing area to take inmate temperatures for isolation,” Mayle said. “However, they did not do anything with that tent, the inmates were just going straight to isolation so the tent is empty. There are no dead bodies. There never were any dead bodies. There have been inmates who have passed away, but they were in the hospital.”
A former Elkton inmate, who was released last year, confirmed the authenticity of the video to VICE News, saying the tent appeared to be on a basketball court inside the facility, next to the prison medical center and the “Special Housing Unit” where inmates are isolated. The source said it appeared Campell was housed inside F Unit at the low-security prison, which is an “open dorm with cubicles” instead of cells. Photos posted previously on the “Ace Sanchez” account showed a man closely resembling Campbell inside what appears to be a prison.
The BOP confirms seven cases of COVID-19 among inmates at FCI Elkton, a low-security prison with a minimum-security “camp” housing around 2,400 inmates total. Two staff at the prison are also confirmed to have the disease, according to BOP. But according to Mayle, three staff are positive, 15 inmates are in quarantine with symptoms, and 82 are in isolation.
In the video, Campbell — a Detroit native who is serving an eight-year prison sentence for selling crack cocaine in West Virginia — says the cramped quarters inside Elkton, where men sleep in dorm-style housing units, make it impossible to practice social distancing.
“This guy over here dying of corona,” Campbell says at one point, turning the camera to his cellmate, who is lying down and wearing a surgical mask. “They got this guy in my room. How the fuck am I supposed to live? They talk to us about staying six feet away, they give us these little masks, but they literally like leaving us in here to die.”
He adds later: “Everybody in the unit got this shit except three or four of us.” Campbell says in the video that he feels fine, but he also complains at one point of losing his sense of taste, which is a symptom of COVID-19.
Mayle, the union chief at Oakdale, disputed Campbell’s claims. "Pretty much everything he said is untrue,” Mayle said. “No health service professional is gonna tell an inmate he's going to die. The inmate he's housed with is fine."
Campbell’s younger brother Adrian, who works as the manager of a housing complex in Florida, told VICE News he spoke to his brother by phone on Friday afternoon just before the video went live on Facebook. Adrian said his brother was willing to go public even though he would likely be punished by prison authorities for having a “jack,” or contraband phone. Adrian said he received word from a friend on Sunday that his brother had been placed in “the hole” as punishment, but that information was not confirmed by prison officials
‘It was pretty much like, ‘Oh my god, shit is getting crazy in here,’” Adrian recalled his brother saying. “‘I’m about to try this, they might take the jack but fuck it.’ He said he needed to get some notoriety to the situation because they was ignoring everybody.”
Adrian said that in a conversation earlier in the week, Aaron said he had virtually no information about the coronavirus, including the symptoms and high risk for infection inside prisons and jails. In addition to the three men who have died from COVID-19 at Elkton, five inmates at FCI Oakdale, a low-security prison in Louisiana, have also died over the past week. The BOP now confirmed 120 cases among federal inmates nationwide, though the agency acknowledges that the actual infection count is likely far higher because only the sickest prisoners are getting tested.
“I had to clue him into pretty much like all the specifics about the corona situation,” Adrian said. “In a week's time after, he said that it got heavy and hectic in the jail, people started getting sick and dying. He sounded real nervous about the situation.”
Adrian said he hasn’t heard from Aaron since the video was posted, despite efforts to contact the prison and get an update.
“It’s like the whole system just shut down,” Adrian said. “You can’t even get through on a line. I didn't think [posting the video] would work but he said anything better than nothing. They just left him in the cell for days at this point with nothing but a little face mask.”
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3b9qj/prisoner-uses-smuggled-cellphone-to-beg-for-help-with-coronavirus-on-facebook-live?fbclid=IwAR2q9UTfnRLiBjcnWEzJTvetkm7vhbADIIs393rPiLeJ0vY33lLJKqgpjew
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I have no great sympathy for any prisoners who have harmed others if they get sick and die. Good riddance in my view.
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The prison video is bullshit. All a lie.
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What do you all make of this?
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What do you all make of this?
Hmm have any getbiggers checked out local hospitals to see if they are "overwhelmed?"
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Hmm have any getbiggers checked out local hospitals to see if they are "overwhelmed?"
I just might do that tomorrow.
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I just might do that tomorrow.
Great find MM. Another
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Viva la France:
French doctors Jean-Paul Mira & Camille Locht , suggested to curry out experiments for a Covid-19 vaccine in Africa on live TV ................ :D
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Hmm have any getbiggers checked out local hospitals to see if they are "overwhelmed?"
Yes, they are overwhelmed here in Southeast Michigan. I have one uncle in the ICU for covid-19. No underlying conditions. He is 64 and in very good shape. Still plays full court basketball on weekends. He had to wait all day yesterday for a room to open up. Same day, another of my uncles fell on his bycicle. He broke his humerus (sp). He was supposed to have surgery today but they cancelled on him and told him to come to the doctors office tomorrow to have it casted. One of my cousins works the Covid unit at Beaumont Hospital and another cousin is a Physicians Assistant at Henry Ford. Both are overwhelmed and overworked and tell horror stories of what they've seen. This is very real.
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Yes, they are overwhelmed here in Southeast Michigan. I have one uncle in the ICU for covid-19. No underlying conditions. He is 64 and in very good shape. Still plays full court basketball on weekends. He had to wait all day yesterday for a room to open up. Same day, another of my uncles fell on his bycicle. He broke his humerus (sp). He was supposed to have surgery today but they cancelled on him and told him to come to the doctors office tomorrow to have it casted. One of my cousins works the Covid unit at Beaumont Hospital and another cousin is a Physicians Assistant at Henry Ford. Both are overwhelmed and overworked and tell horror stories of what they've seen. This is very real.
Thanks for sharing it's tough to trust anything the media portrays these days and best to have first hand accounts.
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In South Africa, more than 2000 people have been arrested so far for breaking the lockdown rules.
No walking outside property, no jogging, no cycling, no dog walking, no buying or selling alcohol or cigarettes allowed.
May only spend 1 hour at shop and must keep any receipts. Should shop alone. May drive 30 minutes each way.
May carry one passenger in vehicle to take them shopping or to essential/medical services.
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It’s all bullshit. Hospitals here in RI are emptier than usual, testing centers set up at local colleges are fucking ghost towns. the world is shut down over a baby back bitch flu
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Yes, they are overwhelmed here in Southeast Michigan. I have one uncle in the ICU for covid-19. No underlying conditions. He is 64 and in very good shape. Still plays full court basketball on weekends. He had to wait all day yesterday for a room to open up. Same day, another of my uncles fell on his bycicle. He broke his humerus (sp). He was supposed to have surgery today but they cancelled on him and told him to come to the doctors office tomorrow to have it casted. One of my cousins works the Covid unit at Beaumont Hospital and another cousin is a Physicians Assistant at Henry Ford. Both are overwhelmed and overworked and tell horror stories of what they've seen. This is very real.
So on the same day... One Uncle is in the IUC for Clovid19 and your other uncle, on the same day falls off his bicycle and breaks his arm? What the fuck are the odds of that? Tell the stupid uncle to stop falling off his bicycle like a fucking idiot. I hope the other uncle recovers quickly.
Hospitals in Northern California are absolutely fine. No rush. No madhouse. No over crowding. Absolutely normal. If anything they are slow and quiet. Nobody wants to go there for fear of contracting Clovid19.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/06/u-s-coronavirus-hospitalizations-lower-than-predicted-ny-marks-75-drop
These "models" were all bunk from the get go.
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It’s all bullshit. Hospitals here in RI are emptier than usual, testing centers set up at local colleges are fucking ghost towns. the world is shut down over a baby back bitch flu
Every day, I see EMTs in the 7-Eleven near me not wearing masks or gloves, making self-service coffee, Bullshitting on their iPhones. They don’t look the slightest bit stressed. Meanwhile, I see nervous Nellie women who spend the whole day watching the news and they’re basket cases.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/06/u-s-coronavirus-hospitalizations-lower-than-predicted-ny-marks-75-drop
These "models" were all bunk from the get go.
Shocking the models are wrong again!! ::) ::)
has there ever been a model ( not only this virus but also climate change bullshit) that didn't massive overhype a situation, give me a fucking break.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/06/u-s-coronavirus-hospitalizations-lower-than-predicted-ny-marks-75-drop
These "models" were all bunk from the get go.
From that story:
“ On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters that in his state alone, the epicenter of the viral outbreak in the United States, new coronavirus hospitalizations dropped by about 75 percent, from 1,427 four days ago to 358 on Sunday.”
Jesse McKinley
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@jessemckinley
.@NYGovCuomo's aide Jim Malatras says the projections are now showing that the state unlikely to need 110,000 beds for #Coronavirus.
New projections show MUCH LOWER demand, near 20,000-30,000 range if the new chart is believed.
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Now, how many of those prior hospitalizations occurred as a result of the month long nonstop hammering about Corona? Or did that have no effect?
Where are the fuck holes calling me a conspiracy theorist? Come out come out wherever you are.
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Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight.
Full story:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/ (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/)
LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.
State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.
"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.
Whitsett said she was familiar with "the wonders" of hydroxychloroquine from an earlier bout with Lyme disease, but does not believe she would have thought to ask for it, or her doctor would have prescribed it, had Trump not been touting it as a possible treatment for COVID-19.
Trump, at his daily coronavirus briefings, has repeatedly touted the drug in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, despite criticism from health professionals that it is unproven and potentially dangerous. There have also been complaints that Trump's remarks have resulted in a shortage of the drug for those people who normally use it for its recommended purposes.
But Whitsett said Trump's comments helped in her case.
"It has a lot to do with the president ... bringing it up," Whitsett said. "He is the only person who has the power to make it a priority."
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And now Cuomo faces the reality that HCQ is working.
Cuomo: Use of antimalarial drug in New York hospitals 'anecdotally' positive.
Full story and video:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491358-cuomo-use-of-antimalarial-drug-in-new-york-hospitals-anecdotally?amp (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491358-cuomo-use-of-antimalarial-drug-in-new-york-hospitals-anecdotally?amp)
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said Monday that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective," but that official data was still forthcoming.
Asked about the progress of the trials at his daily press briefing, Cuomo noted that state officials have allowed use of the drug in combination with the antibiotic Zithromax in hospitals "at their discretion." He said the federal government would increase supplies to New York pharmacies, but that New York has imposed a 14-day limit to protect the supplies for people who rely on it to treat other medical conditions.
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In other news, wife beating is on the rise.
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https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/07/model-lowers-projected-tennessee-coronavirus-deaths-by-more-than-2000/?fbclid=IwAR0O1p6LYcgpMHeesjyioNAUr2eqeF6B947Q5JH7MDjQE2yMcGj8m4S21Z4
Models and the fear and panic were all BS!
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In other news, wife beating is on the rise.
Women sporting black eyes is the price we must pay to defeat this invisible enemy.💪
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https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/07/coronavirus-ny-deaths-61-were-men-most-had-these-underlying-illnesses/2959183001/?utm_source=lohud-Coronavirus%20Watch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baseline_greeting&utm_term=newsletter_greeting
In my state of NYS - 86% have other serious issues going on.
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CDC Director: Coronavirus Death Toll Will Be ‘Much, Much, Much Lower’ than Projected
Breitbart ^ | 04/07/2020 | Joshua Caplan
Posted on 4/7/2020, 11:18:19
Appearing Monday on AM 1030 KVOI Radio, Dr. Robert Redfield, the Director of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), predicted that the death toll from the Chinese coronavirus will be “much, much, much lower” than the models have projected due to Americans following social distancing recommendations.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Yeah in the end - this entire thing will be a fraud and total crap relative to the damage done
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Brietbart ;D. May as well source Info Wars.
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https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/07/coronavirus-ny-deaths-61-were-men-most-had-these-underlying-illnesses/2959183001/?utm_source=lohud-Coronavirus%20Watch&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baseline_greeting&utm_term=newsletter_greeting
In my state of NYS - 86% have other serious issues going on.
One of the so-called “Hotspots” is the South Bronx. These two, Fat Joe and Big Pun are very representative of the males in that area. If anyone is working off a PC, please post a pic of these two:
https://images.app.goo.gl/YQCHEY71gWBy1pG17
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One of the so-called “Hotspots” is the South Bronx. These two, Fat Joe and Big Pun are very representative of the males in that area. If anyone is working off a PC, please post a pic of these two:
https://images.app.goo.gl/YQCHEY71gWBy1pG17
Happier times in NYC...
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Happier times in NYC...
Lotta people in the hood getting some extra work in that vid.
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Violates Her Own Quarantine Advice to Get a Haircut
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/YhQY12XI638ju6BPghq_KA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQxMS4wMjA1MDc4MTI1/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/nGDE6blNlONpGaIJSSwN_Q--~B/aD01OTc7dz0xMDI0O3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/the_national_review_738/e79a68123819bcdb88fad8158bfb3a4a)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/personal-hygiene-very-seriously-chicago-142126917.html
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Brietbart ;D. May as well source Info Wars.
Sources are posted in the links.
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Up to 50% could be asymptomatic carriers. Phuck China!
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Up to 50% could be asymptomatic carriers. Phuck China!
Those dirty disgusting rat cat bat dog eating communist slobs need to chopped off at the knees for this.
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Those dirty disgusting rat cat bat dog eating communist slobs need to chopped off at the knees for this.
So boycott Chinese products. Get rid of all your electronics. Oh wait, you won't. ::)
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So boycott Chinese products. Get rid of all your electronics. Oh wait, you won't. ::)
Oh im gonna do my damn best to the extent I can. F these communist rat and bat eating lying slobs.
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Oh im gonna do my damn best to the extent I can. F these communist rat and bat eating lying slobs.
Ironically the processed shit that Americans put into their body will kill way more people than this Virus caused by these bat eating slobs.
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/07/african-americans-may-be-dying-from-covid-19-at-a-higher-rate/23972462/
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/07/african-americans-may-be-dying-from-covid-19-at-a-higher-rate/23972462/
Obesity and Diabetes seems like a big factor.
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yep
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Hong Kong flu 1968/69
4 million worldwide dead
UK 80,000 dead
First I ever heard about it today
Why was it not seen as that much of a problem?
Easy, no internet back then
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Sydney: 2 old guys ( 91 & 94 yo) died in nursing homes & Aussie media blames Chinavirus ::)
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Hong Kong flu 1968/69
4 million worldwide dead
UK 80,000 dead
First I ever heard about it today
Why was it not seen as that much of a problem?
Easy, no internet back then
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Women sporting black eyes is the price we must pay to defeat this invisible enemy.💪
Damn those women for making men hit them!
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seems the sources fluctuate 1million and 4 million seems to be a bit of a stretch
the 80k in the UK seems consistent across sources
amazingly the Spanish flu in 1918 had 200,000 UK deaths roughly 0.5% of the pre war population, so a higher percentage it being post war
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Nice try, that’s not exactly a “tiny home”. I meant given your living situation, with your daughter and grandchildren and soon to be great grandchild, it might be safer for you to be on your own in a small place as opposed to your current home.
I referred to the tiny homes because Oregon has a tiny home community set up for homeless people. They are transition homes.
Stay safe. Weirdo.
Not sure why you think it would be safer for me to live elsewhere. 'Our' house is my house, which I share with them. If something happens to me or I decided to sell it, my kids would probably get something smaller and less expensive to maintain. They've sometimes talked about moving back to Hawaii.
No, the place in the picture I posted isn't technically a 'tiny house' in the strictest sense. What it is, is an example of my ideal of a small one person place. Anything tinier would feel too claustrophobic to me. How folks sleep in those lofts where the ceiling is so low that you can barely sit up much less stand would make me even crazier than and weirder than I already am. Also, I have a lot of clothes and need a decent sized closet. ;)
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seems the sources fluctuate 1million and 4 million seems to be a bit of a stretch
the 80k in the UK seems consistent across sources
amazingly the Spanish flu in 1918 had 200,000 UK deaths roughly 0.5% of the pre war population, so a higher percentage it being post war
Exactly. Can we believe any numbers, form any source?
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Democratic state lawmaker credits President Trump and hydroxychloroquine with saving her life
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-state-lawmaker-credits-president-024112371.html
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I'm surprised they haven't tried blood transfusions with severe cases. A fully recovered individual would have anti-bodies. And the fight goes on!
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I'm surprised they haven't tried blood transfusions with severe cases. A fully recovered individual would have anti-bodies. And the fight goes on!
They probably figure it isn't worth it to give a blood transfusion to a 93 year old man with advanced lung cancer, emphysema, asthma and hepatitis.
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I'm surprised they haven't tried blood transfusions with severe cases. A fully recovered individual would have anti-bodies. And the fight goes on!
Johns Hopkins immunologist Arturo Casadevall is working to revive a century-old blood-derived treatment for use in the United States in hopes of slowing the spread of the disease.
With the right pieces in place, the treatment could be set up at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore within a matter of weeks, Casadevall says.
The technique uses antibodies from the blood plasma or serum of people who have recovered from COVID-19 infection to boost the immunity of newly infected patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. These antibodies contained in the blood's serum have the ability to bind to and neutralize SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/13/covid-19-antibody-sera-arturo-casadevall/
Plasma treatment being tested in New York may be coronavirus 'game changer'
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plasma-treatment-being-tested-york-213100838.html
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“You can’t save everyone. This virus is very good at what it does, and it kills vulnerable people,” Cuomo said at his daily briefing providing updates on the outbreak. “The question is, are you saving everyone you can save? And there the answer is yes, and I take some solace in that fact.”
“Our health care system is operating. I don’t believe we’ve lost a single person because we couldn’t provide care,” the Democratic governor continued. “People we lost we couldn’t save despite our best efforts.”
A record 731 New Yorkers died between Monday and Tuesday, Cuomo reported. He cautioned that the death rate is a “lagging indicator,” meaning that those who died are often sick for weeks before they pass. More than 138,000 people in the state have been infected with the respiratory illness, with 8,157 new positive cases on Tuesday, the lowest rate in a week. The number of patients being hospitalized and moved to intensive care has dropped as well.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-posts-highest-one-day-173018979.html
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/06/americas-most-influential-coronavirus-model-just-revised-its-estimates-downward-not-every-model-agrees
Estimates going down down down down . . . . .
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Hitting the fatties hard
https://news.trust.org/item/20200408103237-l2epf
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I'm surprised they haven't tried blood transfusions with severe cases. A fully recovered individual would have anti-bodies. And the fight goes on!
Plasmapheresis is a thing and they are running trials right now to evaluate the efficacy of it. However, the supply is limited to those who are willing to donate. Furthermore, the machines used to process this plasma are expensive and in short supply--nevermind the technicians that know how to perform this process.
It would never be a mass-produced thing but could protect those at high risk (healthcare workers, etc) and could possibly serve as a blueprint for a synthesized solution down the road
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Hitting the fatties hard
https://news.trust.org/item/20200408103237-l2epf
I thought Getbiggers had already established that this virus was originally engineered to kill fatties.
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https://toofab.com/2020/04/07/mayor-sends-police-to-break-up-coronavirus-party-finds-wife-there/?fbclid=IwAR23sICNqxOZO4SJujN_VXrk6OmHEL4qVMdDUi-MtXbwizZ31HXOYNHlPDg
:)
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I thought Getbiggers had already established that this virus was originally engineered to kill fatties.
Fatties and those burdening the Social Security safety net.
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I thought Getbiggers had already established that this virus was originally engineered to kill fatties.
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Dr. Birx Says Here Very Plainly That Anyone Who Dies “With COVID-19” Is Being Counted As Having Died From COVID-19.
Twitter ^ | 04/07/20
This is remarkable. Dr. Birx says here very plainly that anyone who dies “with COVID-19” is being counted as having died from COVID-19. She admits this is a “liberal approach” to recording mortality. The suspicions many of us had are now confirmed.
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1247672477498724352
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
This entire thing is a complete fraud and joke on the public. Yes its serious - but to wreck the country over it? Insane.
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Key coronavirus model revised downward, predicts 60K deaths in US by August
The Hill ^ | 04 08 2020 | Rebecca Klar
A key forecasting model used by the White House has revised its prediction of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., now estimating a peak of 60,415 by early August.
The model created by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IMHE) at the University of Washington had predicted a peak of 81,766 deaths in an update on Sunday.
Public health experts, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, have previously estimated that as many as 100,000 to 200,000 Americans could die from the novel coronavirus.
Across the U.S., nearly 400,000 COVID-19 cases have been confirmed and 12,911 related deaths reported as of Wednesday morning, based on data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
Different models forecasting the coronavirus pandemic are offering varied predictions, however,.
IMHE, for example, predicts the peak hospital resource use is coming in just a few days, on Sunday, while other models officials have cited don’t show the outbreak peaking for months.
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(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
And we wrecked the country for this? really?
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/coronavirus-deaths-will-be-much-much-much-lower-than-predicted-models-says-head-of-cdc/?fbclid=IwAR0LeaLzMvodWuAXZe0anbWdK9sru3B5PKxqe0sSOXbB5QZ9jReS6bCnnFA
No kidding. This entire thing is a sham,
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The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," Birx said. "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
"We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality." pic.twitter.com/v2rteBQMqL— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) April 8, 2020
Well, Dr. Birx just said it. Anyone in U.S. who dies with Covid 19, regardless of what else may be wrong, is now being recorded as a Covid 19 death.— Brit Hume (@brithume) April 7, 2020
Tucker Carlson: "It seems entirely possible that doctors are classifying conventional pneumonia deaths as COVID-19 deaths. That would mean this epidemic is being credited for thousands of deaths that would have occurred if the virus never appeared here."
?????? pic.twitter.com/CNHompgfzH— Scott Morefield (@SKMorefield) April 8, 2020
There is a difference between dying from something and dying with something. The way Wuhan coronavirus deaths are counted matters for a number of reasons, but most importantly, its "lethality" has been the driving force behind a country wide economic shut down.
This is remarkable. Dr. Birx says here very plainly that anyone who dies “with COVID-19” is being counted as having died from COVID-19. She admits this is a “liberal approach” to recording mortality. The suspicions many of us had are now confirmed.
pic.twitter.com/NxmfwyfjTC— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) April 7, 2020
2. It emphatically provides that doctors are to enter the COVID19 code when recording the cause of death even whether it may not be the main cause of death or is the suspected cause of death. It is the default code to be used.https://t.co/IMBkxcgyNo— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) April 8, 2020
According to the latest numbers compiled under this classification by Johns Hopkins University, there are 398,185 positive diagnoses, 21,849 recoveries and 12,844 deaths.
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Problematic😂😂😂 Try fraudulent.
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
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Soul Crusher you have any suggestions what they should've done instead, to not wreck the country?
And also how many would've died, using that strategy instead?
What is an acceptable number of deaths in your opinion?
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Awesome how "they" manage to get the whole world in on the conspiracy with everyone keeping the secret.
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Soul Crusher you have any suggestions what they should've done instead, to not wreck the country?
And also how many would've died, using that strategy instead?
What is an acceptable number of deaths in your opinion?
I’ll take my props, now👏👏
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," Birx said. "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
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I’ll take my props, now👏👏
Keep it coming TL
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Keep it coming TL
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Awesome how "they" manage to get the whole world in on the conspiracy with everyone keeping the secret.
Most people don't question the powers that be. Very easy to create a panic.
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Props for what? I don't read your posts. They're 2-3 pages long conspiracy theories.
But I do see people from time to time say that this is a hysteria etc so I'm curious on what they suggest would be a better strategy.
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Soul Crusher you have any suggestions what they should've done instead, to not wreck the country?
And also how many would've died, using that strategy instead?
What is an acceptable number of deaths in your opinion?
Not a CT - just that the hype and hysteria and overblown panic was never called for.
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Not a CT - just that the hype and hysteria and overblown panic was never called for.
The best description I’ve read on this board came from Desolate who succinctly stated, “The whole thing is a fraud.”
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Problematic😂😂😂 Try fraudulent.
Needs to be some class action lawsuit imo
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Props for what? I don't read your posts. They're 2-3 pages long conspiracy theories.
But I do see people from time to time say that this is a hysteria etc so I'm curious on what they suggest would be a better strategy.
I have a great strategy. Wait until the hospitals are at 75% capacity with nothing but Covid positive patients before you shut down the local economy and pull this quasi martial law shit. They are running under 50% capacity FOR ALL PATIENTS in South Carolina where I live. They are laying off medical people for fucks sake here.. If you have a hot spot like NYC then shut things down. Not the whole god damn country.
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I have a great strategy. Wait until the hospitals are at 75% capacity with nothing but Covid positive patients before you shut down the local economy and pull this quasi martial law shit. They are running under 50% capacity FOR ALL PATIENTS in South Carolina where I live. They are laying off medical people for fucks sake here.. If you have a hot spot like NYC then shut things down. Not the whole god damn country.
I don't think waiting to see what happens is a good strategy when it comes to a pandemic.
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I don't think waiting to see what happens is a good strategy when it comes to a pandemic.
thats exactly what the UK did
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thats exactly what the UK did
You've changed your tune, you flip flopper
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(https://i.postimg.cc/kMsyD6XY/tbanger.gif)
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Apparently, it is something you've never read. ;D
Coming from you, you may as well laugh at me for having never read the Ten Commandments on the original stone tablets.
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The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," Birx said. "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
"We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality." pic.twitter.com/v2rteBQMqL— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) April 8, 2020
Well, Dr. Birx just said it. Anyone in U.S. who dies with Covid 19, regardless of what else may be wrong, is now being recorded as a Covid 19 death.— Brit Hume (@brithume) April 7, 2020
Tucker Carlson: "It seems entirely possible that doctors are classifying conventional pneumonia deaths as COVID-19 deaths. That would mean this epidemic is being credited for thousands of deaths that would have occurred if the virus never appeared here."
?????? pic.twitter.com/CNHompgfzH— Scott Morefield (@SKMorefield) April 8, 2020
There is a difference between dying from something and dying with something. The way Wuhan coronavirus deaths are counted matters for a number of reasons, but most importantly, its "lethality" has been the driving force behind a country wide economic shut down.
This is remarkable. Dr. Birx says here very plainly that anyone who dies “with COVID-19” is being counted as having died from COVID-19. She admits this is a “liberal approach” to recording mortality. The suspicions many of us had are now confirmed.
pic.twitter.com/NxmfwyfjTC— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) April 7, 2020
2. It emphatically provides that doctors are to enter the COVID19 code when recording the cause of death even whether it may not be the main cause of death or is the suspected cause of death. It is the default code to be used.https://t.co/IMBkxcgyNo— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) April 8, 2020
According to the latest numbers compiled under this classification by Johns Hopkins University, there are 398,185 positive diagnoses, 21,849 recoveries and 12,844 deaths.
The most embarrassing part of our media (yes, that includes Fox News) is that normal internet people were able to find these direct links ourselves weeks ago. They don't have any desire to find things out until they have no other alternative and the inconsistencies are punching them in the face. What are they doing and why does it take them so long to figure this stuff out with all of the resources they have?
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The most embarrassing part of our media (yes, that includes Fox News) is that normal internet people were able to find these direct links ourselves weeks ago. They don't have any desire to find things out. What are they doing and why does it take them so long to figure this stuff out with all of the resources they have?
This entire thing is a complete sham. Yes its a serious virus - but end of the world doom and gloom scenario - absolutely not.
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This entire thing is a complete sham. Yes its a serious virus - but end of the world doom and gloom scenario - absolutely not.
Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't classify it as particularly serious unless you believe the same about other common viruses so that depends on definition. They are completely trying to fudge numbers and still there is nothing remotely impressive about the death count. Who knows? It could be as little as 1/3rd actually died from even that number.
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Then you have people like these clowns saying things like this and people pretty much bending over backward in order to appease them and asking to be locked up and call on their neighbors, etc. It's an embarrassment.
"You are attempting, in my mind as a prosecutor, to commit serious physical harm to people and that is felonious assault," Deters told Enquirer columnist Jason Williams, who was hosting the radio show. "So fine, sit your butt in a jail. You can sit there and kill yourself. I don't care, but you're not going to kill my kids and you're not going to kill my neighbors' kids. I'm done with this nonsense, so we'll see what happens."
https://www.fox19.com/2020/04/05/hamilton-county-prosecutor-joe-deters-stay-at-home-violators-sit-your-butt-jail/?fbclid=IwAR09hD8Zon0EQVHhFA2m1MlN5oZmzDEwNf908TDvWpBUOEOym4l5J8lza6M
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Disgraceful. This is communist bs at its worst.
Then you have people like these clowns saying things like this and people pretty much bending over backward in order to appease them and asking to be locked up and call on their neighbors, etc. It's an embarrassment.
"You are attempting, in my mind as a prosecutor, to commit serious physical harm to people and that is felonious assault," Deters told Enquirer columnist Jason Williams, who was hosting the radio show. "So fine, sit your butt in a jail. You can sit there and kill yourself. I don't care, but you're not going to kill my kids and you're not going to kill my neighbors' kids. I'm done with this nonsense, so we'll see what happens."
https://www.fox19.com/2020/04/05/hamilton-county-prosecutor-joe-deters-stay-at-home-violators-sit-your-butt-jail/?fbclid=IwAR09hD8Zon0EQVHhFA2m1MlN5oZmzDEwNf908TDvWpBUOEOym4l5J8lza6M
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Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't classify it as particularly serious unless you believe the same about other common viruses so that depends on definition. They are completely trying to fudge numbers and still there is nothing remotely impressive about the death count. Who knows? It could be as little as 1/3rd actually died from even that number.
i've been saying this from day 1.i tease my gf that we will be seperated for close to 2 months and that maybe we should take a break period 'i was actually semi-serious'and being a prick as well ,she has been good to me but she is frightened always evrything is a'oh well so and so this so and so that type'.we can follow guidelines that were presented stay in and see each other but she is done...
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You've changed your tune, you flip flopper
nope, consistent from day one, we sat on our hands instead of mass testing and isolating the confirmed cases which has been the most effective policy utilised by other countries
Now we are fucked
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Coronavirus fallout: One-third of Americans missed rent payments in April.
As the novel coronavirus slows the U.S. economy, many renters — now unemployed — wondered how they would pay April rent. New data shows that one-third of Americans did not pay April rent before the due date.
As the novel coronavirus pandemic causes mass layoffs and financial disruption, 31% of U.S. renters did not pay April rent on time, up from 19% a month earlier and 18% in April 2019, according to a new report by the National Multifamily Housing Council (NMHC) based on 13.4 million rentals. Among U.S. renters, only 69% paid April rent on time.
WHERE THE PHUCK IS THE CHINESE INTERNATIONAL RELIEF PACKAGE? THEY ARE JUST GOING TO WALK FROM THIS UNSCATHED. BASICALLY THEY ARE GIVING AWAY A COUPLE OF VENTILATORS AND FREE MASKS.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/bill-gates-how-long-it-may-take-before-americans-are-safe-from-coronavirus.html
This is a freaking scam - this entire thing - keep moving the goals posts.
FNG insane
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Coronavirus fallout: One-third of Americans missed rent payments in April.
As the novel coronavirus slows the U.S. economy, many renters — now unemployed — wondered how they would pay April rent. New data shows that one-third of Americans did not pay April rent before the due date.
As the novel coronavirus pandemic causes mass layoffs and financial disruption, 31% of U.S. renters did not pay April rent on time, up from 19% a month earlier and 18% in April 2019, according to a new report by the National Multifamily Housing Council (NMHC) based on 13.4 million rentals. Among U.S. renters, only 69% paid April rent on time.
WHERE THE PHUCK IS THE CHINESE INTERNATIONAL RELIEF PACKAGE? THEY ARE JUST GOING TO WALK FROM THIS UNSCATHED. BASICALLY THEY ARE GIVING AWAY A COUPLE OF VENTILATORS AND FREE MASKS.
The “bailout” will never make it to the little guy, just the large corporations. Suicides, homelessness, repossessions all coming. Wait for it....
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This entire thing is a complete sham. Yes its a serious virus - but end of the world doom and gloom scenario - absolutely not.
They had a problem with a flu bug in China. Everything else is bullshit.
I’ve stopped buying that the Chinese nationals that left Wuhan in December infected the whole fucking world but paid particular attention to the black and Hispanic shit holes.
I’ve heard that many who came to America visited Silicon Valley. Has there been a big outbreak there?
How do we even know this virus was exclusive to Wuhan? They just started doing the testing.
I could literally go on all day with all the inconsistencies.
If this virus is so deadly, how did all these Chinese travel across the world? They should’ve been bedridden.
If many people don’t show symptoms, how do they know that the people who died of other diseases but we’re labeled dying of corona wouldn’t have had those same symptoms without the positive test?
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My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
Just wanted to update. My daughter is coronavirus free. As soon as she heard from her doctor that the test was negative, she started feeling much better. Following the doctor's instructions, she waited to come out of quarantine until her fever was gone for sure. She's back to being her old self, which is great.
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Just wanted to update. My daughter is coronavirus free. As soon as she heard from her doctor that the test was negative, she started feeling much better. Following the doctor's instructions, she waited to come out of quarantine until her fever was gone for sure. She's back to being her old self, which is great.
Thats good news.
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Just wanted to update. My daughter is coronavirus free. As soon as she heard from her doctor that the test was negative, she started feeling much better. Following the doctor's instructions, she waited to come out of quarantine until her fever was gone for sure. She's back to being her old self, which is great.
GOOD JAY,,,
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Just wanted to update. My daughter is coronavirus free. As soon as she heard from her doctor that the test was negative, she started feeling much better. Following the doctor's instructions, she waited to come out of quarantine until her fever was gone for sure. She's back to being her old self, which is great.
That’s good to hear. As wrong as you are about everything I don’t wish you or anybody else here any hard luck.
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That’s good to hear. As wrong as you are about everything I don’t wish you or anybody else here any hard luck.
Come on now, I must be right about something. Can't be wrong about everything. ;D
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Dr. Doom is already walking back the "everyone gonna die" nonsense. Congrats to everyone who was suckered and played for fools.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fauci-predicts-coronavirus-turnaround-after-this-week?fbclid=IwAR1eQCuXAn-KObCsPCsTSkd2Ud9rAewvTZ_nQMlaHAdSlqf_w7egQ68Htgw
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Just wanted to update. My daughter is coronavirus free. As soon as she heard from her doctor that the test was negative, she started feeling much better. Following the doctor's instructions, she waited to come out of quarantine until her fever was gone for sure. She's back to being her old self, which is great.
Praise Jesus Christ!!!
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Dr. Doom is already walking back the "everyone gonna die" nonsense. Congrats to everyone who was suckered and played for fools.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fauci-predicts-coronavirus-turnaround-after-this-week?fbclid=IwAR1eQCuXAn-KObCsPCsTSkd2Ud9rAewvTZ_nQMlaHAdSlqf_w7egQ68Htgw
The reason I’ve been so on point about everything is not that I’m sort of genius it’s because I’ve seen the same movie back in the 80s with AIDS. It’s the exact same playbook with the exact same guy, Fauci.
The first time I saw Fauci out there with Trump I said to myself oh boy here we go again.
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Dr. Doom is already walking back the "everyone gonna die" nonsense. Congrats to everyone who was suckered and played for fools.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fauci-predicts-coronavirus-turnaround-after-this-week?fbclid=IwAR1eQCuXAn-KObCsPCsTSkd2Ud9rAewvTZ_nQMlaHAdSlqf_w7egQ68Htgw
Question.
Dr Fauci attributes the next week decrease to social distance measures.
Top government infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is expecting a turnaround in the pandemic next week due to social distancing measures that have driven down new hospitalization rates.
I don't think those measures were implemented throughout the US at the same time, but as for NYC, I read they were implemented on March 22. By next week, the measures will have 3 weeks of being implemented already. Being the incubation period of 7 - 14 days, a decrease it's exactly what you would expect.
What's the difference between the predicted number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths (taking into account the lockdown) vs the actual number of cases?
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Question.
Dr Fauci attributes the next week decrease to social distance measures.
I don't think those measures were implemented throughout the US at the same time, but as for NYC, I read they were implemented on March 22. By next week, the measures will have 3 weeks of being implemented already. Being the incubation period of 7 - 14 days, a decrease it's exactly what you would expect.
What's the difference between the predicted number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths (taking into account the lockdown) vs the actual number of cases?
not to mention DeBlasio and Cuomo waited weeks too long.
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When people stop reporting supposed Corona deaths, and everyone realizes it's another flu that comes during flu season, Americans will finally realize how dishonest and sensational the media has become, selling fear, click bait and half truths. Even listing Corona Virus "deaths' without listing any pre existing health factors which is the VAST majority of Corona deaths.
I recall when modern "reality tv" first came out in the early 90's, and it took quite a while for people to actually believe it's completely scripted and fake which we all know now.
We have not collectively realized just how fake the mainstream news is, there is a block in our minds saying "Could this news report just be TOTAL bullshit?" YES!!!! And this knowledge may be a lasting affect of Corona Virus after the fear is gone.
One here making the local newspapers is that CoronaVirus is specifically affecting African Americans harder. There is NO study confirming this, as with a new virus different demographics come in randomly weekly, but race baiting sells, next thing blacks in the media will be saying how whitey is using the virus to target blacks, its all just clickbait bullshit and after this manufactured fear is over, we will all have to reevaluate this thing called "news".
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not to mention DeBlasio and Cuomo waited weeks too long.
I hate to have to stick up for those two assholes but they did nothing wrong. They were going with the information that they had. There was nothing going on in New York City during the peak flu winter months so there was no reason for them to push the panic button.
The insanity only got going when the announcement came about stimulus plans. They did a 180 when they realized that this is going to be at windfall for the city and state when all is said and done.
You’re about halfway there. Once you accept that EVERYTHING about this is bullshit you’ll be at the finish line. It’s perfectly understandable. I came to my current position on the subject little by little as well.
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One here making the local newspapers is that CoronaVirus is specifically affecting African Americans harder. There is NO study confirming this, as with a new virus different demographics come in randomly weekly, but race baiting sells, next thing blacks in the media will be saying how whitey is using the virus to target blacks, its all just clickbait bullshit and after this manufactured fear is over, we will all have to reevaluate this thing called "news".
Interesting news ;)
:D
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/bill-gates-how-long-it-may-take-before-americans-are-safe-from-coronavirus.html
This is a freaking scam - this entire thing - keep moving the goals posts.
FNG insane
And fuck Bill Gates. He's a software developer. He knows Jack and Shit about medicine.
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The reason I’ve been so on point about everything is not that I’m sort of genius it’s because I’ve seen the same movie back in the 80s with AIDS. It’s the exact same playbook with the exact same guy, Fauci.
The first time I saw Fauci out there with Trump I said to myself oh boy here we go again.
I think you need to watch these movies again. There not that much alike. HIV is easier to avoid than COVID-19.
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When people stop reporting supposed Corona deaths, and everyone realizes it's another flu that comes during flu season, Americans will finally realize how dishonest and sensational the media has become, selling fear, click bait and half truths. Even listing Corona Virus "deaths' without listing any pre existing health factors which is the VAST majority of Corona deaths.
I recall when modern "reality tv" first came out in the early 90's, and it took quite a while for people to actually believe it's completely scripted and fake which we all know now.
We have not collectively realized just how fake the mainstream news is, there is a block in our minds saying "Could this news report just be TOTAL bullshit?" YES!!!! And this knowledge may be a lasting affect of Corona Virus after the fear is gone.
One here making the local newspapers is that CoronaVirus is specifically affecting African Americans harder. There is NO study confirming this, as with a new virus different demographics come in randomly weekly, but race baiting sells, next thing blacks in the media will be saying how whitey is using the virus to target blacks, its all just clickbait bullshit and after this manufactured fear is over, we will all have to reevaluate this thing called "news".
It could be they have higher rate of the preexisting conditions.
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And fuck Bill Gates. He's a software developer. He knows Jack and Shit about medicine.
Yeah, why listen to a genius billionaire philanthropist who has pumped billions into research into this area (fighting ebola) and actually predicted such an event, when we have getbigs very own pandemic guru in tommy "the game ain't over, suns still shining" wishbone. ;D
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I'm surprised Trump doesn't bring tommywishbone, thin lizzy and soulcrusher with him when he speaks to the nation.
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nope, consistent from day one, we sat on our hands instead of mass testing and isolating the confirmed cases which has been the most effective policy utilised by other countries
Now we are fucked
Day 1 you were saying it was just flu and was all a big joke
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I'm surprised Trump doesn't bring tommywishbone, thin lizzy and soulcrusher with him when he speaks to the nation.
This has confused me too. ;D
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Day 1 you were saying it was just flu and was all a big joke
Yes he was. Old granny face has realised now its serious and his geriatric ass is at risk. Hes probably had at risk letter ;D
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Yes he was. Old granny face has realised now its serious and his geriatric ass is at risk. Hes probably had at risk letter ;D
Yes, trying to subtly shift his opinion over the course of days, and hoping nobody would notice he was completely wrong about the single biggest global event in 70 years. ::)
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Yes, trying to subtly shift his opinion over the course of days, and hoping nobody would notice he was completely wrong about the single biggest global event in 70 years. ::)
He was claiming total over reaction, now hes saying too little to late. 100'000 deaths almost worldwide (150000 counting china/russia's true count) now after 3 months, and many nations have yet to hit peak. More than H1N1 killed after 18 months.
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I'm surprised Trump doesn't bring tommywishbone, thin lizzy and soulcrusher with him when he speaks to the nation.
Why would he do that? He wants scam artist like Fauci and Birx who are going to parrot the party line.
Now, wipe the the gravy off your face.
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Why would he do that? He wants scam artist like Fauci and Birx who are going to parrot the party line.
Now, wipe the the gravy off your face.
He wasn't serious. What expertise can you actually bring? ;D
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He wasn't serious. What expertise can you actually bring? ;D
I’m capable of posting on a message board without having to resort to ridiculous gimmicks.
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Thin Lizzy is a third degree black belt in Con(spiracy)-Fu
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I’m capable of posting on a message board without having to resort to ridiculous gimmicks.
That would go down very well ;D
"Fellow Americans, we need watch out for these gimmicks being spread through the 5g towers"
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Thin Lizzy is a third degree black belt in Con(spiracy)-Fu
Yeah, seems like hes has some additional chromosomes.
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I'm surprised Trump doesn't bring tommywishbone, thin lizzy and soulcrusher with him when he speaks to the nation.
I know. I wish I could get out there and talk some truth to the masses
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I know. I wish I could get out there and talk some truth to the masses
Thank fuck we have you here instead, arguing with queens and steers.
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Cuomo Admits Hydroxychloroquine Works, Wants to Lift Restrictions.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo spoke positively of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine — which has been touted by the White House — at his daily press briefing Monday, announcing that the state will request an additional supply from the federal government.
The Democratic governor said the drug has “anecdotally” been “effective” in treating COVID-19, explaining that state officials have been given permission to use it in combination with the antibiotic Zithromax in hospitals “at their discretion.” However, he emphasized that official data has not yet been released.
Full story:
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/35375-cuomo-admits-hydroxychloroquine-works-wants-to-lift-restrictions (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/35375-cuomo-admits-hydroxychloroquine-works-wants-to-lift-restrictions)
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Violates Her Own Quarantine Advice to Get a Haircut
Amazing.
Like a haircut will help that beast.
Woman is clearly delusional.
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You are a douche bag. This is dangerous propoganda.
If you're going to use it, then at least learn to spell the word, you fucking moron. ::)
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First uptick in total deaths for the UK which bucks the trend since the start of the year.
1k over the total average deaths for the week ending 27th March.
Total covid-19 shown on death certificates is 647 but obviously the uptick shows more died with it.
We should expect the uptick to get larger for at least the next 2 weeks.
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First uptick in total deaths for the UK which bucks the trend since the start of the year.
1k over the total average deaths for the week ending 27th March.
Total covid-19 shown on death certificates is 647 but obviously the uptick shows more died with it.
We should expect the uptick to get larger for at least the next 2 weeks.
what the fuck is an "uptick"?
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what the fuck is an "uptick"?
A small increase.
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A small increase.
As you seem to know, averages are just averages. The actual numbers are usually going to be somewhat above or below average. The question would be how the uptick compares to the standard deviation. If this virus is what we were told it is, there should be a large increase.
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As you seem to know, averages are just averages. The actual numbers are usually going to be somewhat above or below average. The question would be how the uptick compares to the standard deviation. If this virus is what we were told it is, there should be a large increase.
Stick to men in thongs. Leave statistics to the experts.
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Stick to men in thongs. Leave statistics to the experts.
quiet, gnat
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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147891073001#sp=show-clips
Tucker Carlson breaks down how bad the "models" have turned out.
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Stick to men in thongs. Leave statistics to the experts.
Looks like I have an ankle biter. I guess that means I’ve ascended to Getbig legend status😎
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https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/491721-more-herd-immunity-less-herd-mentality
Amen - this has always been the cvase - enough of this lockdown nonsense.
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As you seem to know, averages are just averages. The actual numbers are usually going to be somewhat above or below average. The question would be how the uptick compares to the standard deviation. If this virus is what we were told it is, there should be a large increase.
It's the actual number this year compared to the same week of data averaged over the previous 5yrs.
The 1k spike is almost a 10% increase over that previous average.
When viewing the weekly data for this year it is the first week with a clear spike. If you want to go all out professor on the numbers you will need to compile the individual data yourself for deviations or other metrics you feel would.provide clearer insight.
Latest new is the UK will have 66,000 corona deaths by August with a peak of close to 3,000 in one day.
To put that 66k into perspective, from April-End July in 2019, 173,000 people died.
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It's the actual number this year compared to the same week of data averaged over the previous 5yrs.
The 1k spike is almost a 10% increase over that previous average.
When viewing the weekly data for this year it is the first week with a clear spike. If you want to go all out professor on the numbers you will need to compile the individual data yourself for deviations or other metrics you feel would.provide clearer insight.
Latest new is the UK will have 66,000 corona deaths by August with a peak of close to 3,000 in one day.
To put that 66k into perspective, from April-End July in 2019, 173,000 people died.
As I’ve said, the scam is in the testing. In 1st world countries with large populations about 1% die a year. In the U.S, the number of yearly deaths is about 3 million. All that needs to be done is to attribute some of those deaths to corona and that’s exactly what’s being done:
The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," Birx said. "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
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I’m no math PhD, but from my understanding half of 200,000 is 100,000. From 200 to 60k is 70%.
At this point, you have to be beyond stupid to believe anything you hear:
Fauci Says U.S. Virus Deaths May Be 60,000, Half of Projections
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/fauci-says-u-s-virus-deaths-may-be-60-000-halving-projections
Anthony Fauci: U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Could Near 200,000 | National News | US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-03-29/anthony-fauci-us-coronavirus-deaths-could-near-200-000
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A virus supposedly spread by Chinese nationals, yet in the epicenter, Asians are the least affected group:
Interesting🤔
Black, Hispanic represent majority of NYC’s coronavirus deaths: de Blasio - New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-black-hispanic-new-yorkers-20200408-6w7r6jpzgvfwzdiajdtd736k2e-story.html
Hispanics account for 34% of the city’s deaths and black people, 28%, while whites comprised 27% of fatalities and Asians, 7%, according to the state Health Department.
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If a black man shoots and kills another black man, and the dead guy tests + for corona, is it a corona related death?
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If a black man shoots and kills another black man, and the dead guy tests + for corona, is it a corona related death?
That never happens. Only white cops kill black men. Do you not watch the news?
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quiet, gnat
That's sweet you sticking up for your internet boyfriend ;D
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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147891073001#sp=show-clips
Tucker Carlson breaks down how bad the "models" have turned out.
No fan of Tucker after this mess. He was right up there with the fear mongering. Had to stop watching him (not that I was consistent before). Pretty much only political TV program I watch is Liz Wheeler.
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They keep placing patients supine, letting fluid trickle down and drown them, similar to a severe Apnea patient, should be moved the left side, which allows them to belly breath and exchange O2 better. And the fight goes on!
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No fan of Tucker after this mess. He was right up there with the fear mongering. Had to stop watching him (not that I was consistent before). Pretty much only political TV program I watch is Liz Wheeler.
Fox has been no better than the liberal networks during this debacle. They keep posting the corona statistics like it’s a fucking basketball game. I haven’t watched for weeks now and I don’t intend to for several more.
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Now they are saying that 8 out of every 10 that have died from this candy ass virus were either lifetime smokers or obese.
Measles and Polio and rolling around on the floor laughing at Covid19.
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I'm surprised Trump doesn't bring tommywishbone, thin lizzy and soulcrusher with him when he speaks to the nation.
Trump just sent me a text! I'll be on the broadcast tomorrow. Tune in!
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That never happens. Only white cops kill black men. Do you not watch the news?
okay jussie smollett
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Trump just sent me a text! I'll be on the broadcast tomorrow. Tune in!
Good news! Now give that fascist Fauci an elbow to the ribs while you're there, haha
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I’m no math PhD, but from my understanding half of 200,000 is 100,000. From 200 to 60k is 70%.
At this point, you have to be beyond stupid to believe anything you hear:
Fauci Says U.S. Virus Deaths May Be 60,000, Half of Projections
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/fauci-says-u-s-virus-deaths-may-be-60-000-halving-projections
Anthony Fauci: U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Could Near 200,000 | National News | US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-03-29/anthony-fauci-us-coronavirus-deaths-could-near-200-000
The article attributes the reduction of future number of deaths to the social distancing measures that will have 5-6 weeks by then. Thus, the article implies the projection assumed no social distancing.
The falling projection, the result of aggressive social distancing behaviors Americans adopted to curb the spread of the virus, may accelerate Trump’s effort to develop a plan to urge Americans to leave their homes and return to work next month.
“The real data are telling us it is highly likely we are having a definite positive effect by the mitigation things that we’re doing, this physical separation,” Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told NBC in an interview.
The question is, are you comparing a projection that assumed NO SOCIAL DISTANCING vs number of confirmed cases with 5-6 weeks of social distancing measures having been implemented?
EDIT: not sure how about the date for the prediction. If it is early August, the social distancing measures should have 6 weeks by then.
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So far:
US Corona death rate: 4%
Spain Corona death rate: 10%
Italy Corona death rate: 13%
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CDC Releases Early Demographic Snapshot of Worst Coronavirus Cases
Approximately 90% of the 1,482 hospitalized patients included in the study released Wednesday had one or more underlying medical conditions. Older people infected with the virus were more likely to be hospitalized; men were more likely to endure severe cases than women; and black people were hospitalized at a higher rate than whites. The study also found that hospitalization rates for COVID-19 have been significantly higher than for recent outbreaks of influenza.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cdc-releases-early-demographic-snapshot-185459389.html
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So far:
US Corona death rate: 4%
Spain Corona death rate: 10%
Italy Corona death rate: 13%
Not even close. The vast majority of people who have been exposed to the virus will never know it and anyone who dies WITH the virus is said to have died OF the virus.
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Not even close. The vast majority of people who have been exposed to the virus will never know it and anyone who dies WITH the virus is said to have died OF the virus.
I'm going by the published numbers of infected vs dead, which change depending on who you ask, and all numbers regardless of source are questionable to me.
But yes, the number of infected is probably far greater, which would make the percentage of deaths due to Corona far smaller.
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The article attributes the reduction of future number of deaths to the social distancing measures that will have 5-6 weeks by then. Thus, the article implies the projection assumed no social distancing.
The question is, are you comparing a projection that assumed NO SOCIAL DISTANCING vs number of confirmed cases with 5-6 weeks of social distancing measures having been implemented?
EDIT: not sure how about the date for the prediction. If it is early August, the social distancing measures should have 6 weeks by then.
This is just past embarrassing. 90% of the people had pre-existing serious illnesses. How much socializing could they have been doing?
The little shit did the same thing that he did back in the 80s with AIDS . He assumed that it would explode into the general population. This idiotic assumption predicated on the idea that Gay men would suddenly start having sex with women. 35 years later it hasn’t happened. This won’t happen either.
Seriously, do you question anything you hear from the mainstream media and the politicians? There is literally no line of bullshit that you haven’t bought hook line and sinker.
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This is just past embarrassing. 90% of the people had pre-existing serious illnesses. How much socializing could they have beendoing?
The little shit did the same thing that he did back in the 80s with AIDS . He assumed that it would explode into the general population. This idiotic assumption predicated on the idea that Gay men would suddenly start having sex with women. 35 years later it hasn’t happened. This won’t happen either.
Seriously, do you question anything you hear from the mainstream media and the politicians? There is literally no line of bullshit that you haven’t bought hook line and sinker.
You must be one of the dumbest posters on here.
Ok, so I take it you're not even aware if the things you're comparing (model vs data) have the same variables.
Nice try twisting pre-existing pathologies into "pre-existing serious illnesses". What were those "pre-existing serious illnesses"?
Were they lung cancer, heart attacks? Or high blood pressure, diabetes? Have you even looked at the data?
So far, you haven't been able to answer not even single one of the questions directed towards you. All the speculation falls apart at the slightest analysis. It's like if you draw an helicopter and expect it to fly. You're one of a kind.
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In South Africa, lockdown has been extended for 2 weeks after the current 3 weeks, making it a 5 week lockdown.
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You must be one of the dumbest posters on here.
Ok, so I take it you're not even aware if the things you're comparing (model vs data) have the same variables.
Nice try twisting pre-existing pathologies into "pre-existing serious illnesses". What were those "pre-existing serious illnesses"?
Were they lung cancer, heart attacks? Or high blood pressure, diabetes? Have you even looked at the data?
So far, you haven't been able to answer not even single one of the questions directed towards you. All the speculation falls apart at the slightest analysis. It's like if you draw an helicopter and expect it to fly. You're one of a kind.
You act like you’re in the majority here. You’re not. Most people agree with me. Can you blame them? Why would anyone listen to you? You change your story and move the goalposts every day. I never have to do that:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
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I’m sure the genius Uno has a perfectly good explanation for why a virus that started in China and was supposedly spread by Chinese Nationals, has affected blacks and Puerto Ricans in New York City to a much greater extent than it has Asians.
Apparently, this Chinese virus has affected everyone in New York City except the Chinese.😂😂😂
Black, Hispanic represent majority of NYC’s coronavirus deaths: de Blasio - New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-black-hispanic-new-yorkers-20200408-6w7r6jpzgvfwzdiajdtd736k2e-story.html
Hispanics account for 34% of the city’s deaths and black people, 28%, while whites comprised 27% of fatalities and Asians, 7%, according to the state Health Department.
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You must be one of the dumbest posters on here.
Ok, so I take it you're not even aware if the things you're comparing (model vs data) have the same variables.
Nice try twisting pre-existing pathologies into "pre-existing serious illnesses". What were those "pre-existing serious illnesses"?
Were they lung cancer, heart attacks? Or high blood pressure, diabetes? Have you even looked at the data?
So far, you haven't been able to answer not even single one of the questions directed towards you. All the speculation falls apart at the slightest analysis. It's like if you draw an helicopter and expect it to fly. You're one of a kind.
lol you should stop
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You act like you’re in the majority here. You’re not. Most people agree with me. Can you blame them? Why would anyone listen to you? You change your story and move the goalposts every day. I never have to do that:
"The majority" is not a good argument for anything.
Why don't you try for the first time actually addresing the questions directed towards you?
You either:
a) lack the mental capacity.
b) are trolling.
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I’m sure the genius Uno has a perfectly good explanation for why a virus that started in China and was supposedly spread by Chinese Nationals, has affected blacks and Puerto Ricans in New York City to a much greater extent than it has Asians.
Apparently, this Chinese virus has affected everyone in New York City except the Chinese.😂😂😂
Black, Hispanic represent majority of NYC’s coronavirus deaths: de Blasio - New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-black-hispanic-new-yorkers-20200408-6w7r6jpzgvfwzdiajdtd736k2e-story.html
Hispanics account for 34% of the city’s deaths and black people, 28%, while whites comprised 27% of fatalities and Asians, 7%, according to the state Health Department.
I haven't even taken a look at it, and to be honest I don't think I could point out at the reasons.
But let me guess, your explanation is that is that it's an hoax. Yep, great work there. ::)
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Yawn
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/fauci-says-u-s-virus-deaths-may-be-60-000-halving-projections
Deborah Birx, the State Department immunologist advising the White House’s coronavirus task force, projected March 31 that as many as 240,000 Americans could die as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, even with another 30 days of stringent public health restrictions.
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Yawn
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/fauci-says-u-s-virus-deaths-may-be-60-000-halving-projections
Deborah Birx, the State Department immunologist advising the White House’s coronavirus task force, projected March 31 that as many as 240,000 Americans could die as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, even with another 30 days of stringent public health restrictions.
A model being off doesn't prove your theories about:
- How Covid-19 is a hoax with the intention of devaluating the dollar.
- Pre-conditions being mainly catastrophic illnesses.
- How people with pre-conditions shouldn't be counted on the statistics.
- Data being manipulated to inflate numbers in hispanics and blacks populations.
- How the low sensivity of Covid-19 test inflates the number of cases (it does the opposite!).
- How exponential growth should be linear.
See, you've been polluting every single thread with your conspiracy theories and every single question directed towards you has been answered with generic replies.
I'm actually glad that that model in the US is off. Doesn't mean you were right, it means we have more data now and can make better predictions. That's how science works, revisiting models and plugging in new data.
Conspiracy theories with no substance except for a burning desire of going against general consensus have no place in society.
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In South Africa, lockdown has been extended for 2 weeks after the current 3 weeks, making it a 5 week lockdown.
I'll call Strydom for confirmation.
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24-year-old EMT with coronavirus dies
A 24-year-old Pompton Lakes EMT died from complications with the coronavirus, friends and state officials said.
Kevin Leiva, an EMT in North Bergen and at Saint Clare’s Dover Hospital, died from complications with the coronavirus Tuesday, said Cesar Perez, an EMS supervisor in Passaic for Saint Clare’s. He leaves behind his wife Marina.
Leiva is the second EMT who worked at Saint Clare’s to have died from complications with the coronavirus. He died one week to the day after the death of Israel Tolentino Jr., a 33-year-old Passaic firefighter and EMT at Saint Clare’s.
Leiva was remembered as smart, positive and selfless, who lived to help others through being an EMT.
“We did everything together,” said Kara Connolly, his partner for two years at Saint Clare’s. “We became really close. I talked to him every single day. He’s so selfless. He did everything for anybody.”
At Thursday’s press briefing, Gov. Phil Murphy honored the young EMT, thanking him for his years helping others.
“Kevin was only 24 years old," said Murphy. “Bless him. We thank him for his service. For an extraordinary lifetime. For his service to this state.”
Perez, Leiva and Leiva’s best friend Franklin Pachay all started at Monmouth Ocean Hospital Service Corporation (MONOC) at the same time, meeting at their orientation. Although Leiva was a dedicated, diligent EMT, eventually becoming an EMT supervisor for Saint Clare’s, his friends would tease him for nodding off during orientation videos.
“We used to crack on him because he used to fall asleep during the videos,” recalled Perez. “He was great and he’s going to be missed.”
When it came to work itself, Leiva was serious, said Perez. But at work, Leiva was never without a snappy comeback, he said.
“He was always known as super funny and positive and hard-working,” said Connolly. When Saint Clare’s was awarded the contract to provide emergency medical services for Passaic, both Connolly and Leiva applied. The two became partners, talking every day and becoming good friends.
Eventually, both became EMS supervisors at Saint Clare’s.
A candlelight vigil was planned for Friday from 7:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. to honor Leiva at the Passaic EMS headquarters on Grove Street.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/24-year-old-emt-with-coronavirus-dies.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Hbw9RrYmRb3gM_nh524XB_JoLWhnW7hj31ZL6Zu6MNnhgRTqe0F2jidM
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Some people are going to die no matter how old they are.
They have weak immune systems or some peculiar susceptibility to the virus.
It sucks for them and their families.
Just hope you are not one of those unfortunate people.
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Some people are going to die no matter how old they are.
They have weak immune systems or some peculiar susceptibility to the virus.
It sucks for them and their families.
Just hope you are not one of those unfortunate people.
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They have weak immune systems or some peculiar susceptibility to the virus.
If someone (like fat Americans) screwed his immune system with sugary & process food , Chingsvirus will eliminate them.
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At the end of the day, liberals are always wrong:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-cure-not-worse-than-disease-971808
PETER WADE AND PATRICK REIS MARCH 23, 2020 6:15PM EDT
/In that light, dealing with even a lot of economic and personal pain seems worth it, especially with an estimated 2.2 million American lives at stake
Fauci Slashes U.S. Death Projection, Raising Hope for Reopening
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-04-09/fauci-says-u-s-virus-deaths-may-be-60-000-halving-projections
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Even the sycophantic GOP admit that the orange turd's "leadership" is too stupid even for stupid GOP voters (and that is really stupid)
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Trump Keeps Talking. Some Republicans Don’t Like What They’re Hearing.
Mr. Trump “sometimes drowns out his own message,” said Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina,
who has become one of the president’s informal counselors and told him “a once-a-week show” could be more effective.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-keeps-talking-some-republicans-dont-like-what-theyre-hearing/ar-BB12pb1N
t’s the kind of performance the president relishes, but one that has his advisers and Republican allies worried.
As unemployment soars and the death toll skyrockets, and new polls show support for the president’s handling of the crisis sagging, White House allies and Republican lawmakers increasingly believe the briefings are hurting the president more than helping him. Many view the sessions as a kind of original sin from which all of his missteps flow, once he gets through his prepared script and turns to his preferred style of extemporaneous bluster and invective.
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Mr. Trump “sometimes drowns out his own message,” said Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who has become one of the president’s informal counselors and told him “a once-a-week show” could be more effective. Representative Susan Brooks of Indiana said “they’re going on too long.” Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia said the briefings were “going off the rails a little bit” and suggested that he should “let the health professionals guide where we’re going to go.”
Anthony S. Fauci, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: Mr. Trump has told aides he relishes the free television time and high ratings that come with his nightly appearances.© Doug Mills/The New York Times Mr. Trump has told aides he relishes the free television time and high ratings that come with his nightly appearances.
Even the conservative Wall Street Journal editorial board chastised the president for his behavior at the briefings. “Covid-19 isn’t shifty Schiff,” it wrote in an editorial on Thursday, using Mr. Trump’s nickname for Representative Adam Schiff. “It’s a once-a-century threat to American life and livelihood.”
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With only intermittent attempts to adapt to a moment of crisis, Mr. Trump is effectively wagering that he can win re-election in the midst of a national emergency on a platform of polarization.
In interviews, Republican lawmakers, administration officials and members of his re-election campaign said they wanted Mr. Trump to limit his error-filled appearances at the West Wing briefings and move more aggressively to prepare for the looming recession. Some even suggested he summon a broader range of the country’s leaders, including former Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, in an all-hands-on-deck moment to respond to the national emergency.
The consternation reflects a new sense of urgency over Mr. Trump’s re-election efforts as Joseph R. Biden Jr. emerges as his likely Democratic challenger. Three new polls this week show Mr. Biden leading the president, and the Trump campaign’s internal surveys show he has mostly lost the initial bump he received early in the crisis, according to three people briefed on the numbers. Public polls show he badly trails the nation’s governors and his own medical experts in terms of whom Americans trust most for guidance.
“I told him your opponent is no longer Joe Biden — it’s this virus,” Mr. Graham said.
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One of Mr. Trump’s top political advisers, speaking on the condition of anonymity so as not to anger the president, was even blunter, arguing that the White House was handing Mr. Biden ammunition each night by sending the president out to the cameras.
Vice President Mike Pence, this adviser said, should be the M.C. because he projects more empathy than the president, rarely makes mistakes and, as a former governor and the chief of the coronavirus task force, has a better grasp on the details of the response.
Yet the publicity-obsessed president is unlikely to relinquish his grip on the evening sessions: Mr. Trump has told aides he relishes the free television time and boffo ratings that come with his appearances, administration officials say.
He also views it as an opportunity to put forth his version of events and rebut the negative coverage he is receiving, as he showed in a tweet Thursday afternoon. On a day that New York State reported 799 deaths from the coronavirus in a 24-hour period, Mr. Trump’s focus was on himself, and his feuds.
Deep divisions remain in the White House and the Republican Party over how quickly to ease social distancing orders and urge Americans to return to school and work. Some who have Mr. Trump’s ear, like Mr. Graham, are urging prudence. But a number of Republican lawmakers and Fox News personalities are lobbying the president to reopen the economy as quickly as possible.
Amid the conflicting advice, the president’s gut instincts and fondness for showmanship have won out, prompting him to frequently contradict or simply obscure the scientists who polls show are most trusted by voters.
And it’s not just an overwhelming majority of voters who believe the medical experts should be center stage: Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, personally urged Mr. Trump at the start of the crisis to let Drs. Anthony S. Fauci and Deborah Birx be the face of the response, according to a Republican official familiar with their conversation.
Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, said: “Any suggestion that President Trump is struggling on tone or message is completely false. During these difficult times, Americans are receiving comfort, hope and resources from their president, as well as their local officials, and Americans are responding in unprecedented ways.”
Some of Mr. Trump’s aides have quietly suggested to him that he ratchet back his public attacks on the governors who have emerged as leaders in the response to the virus. But they acknowledge their efforts can be something of a fool’s errand; the president has his style and he won’t change, they say.
His attacks on Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, a popular Democrat and potential vice-presidential pick for Mr. Biden — whom Mr. Trump called a “half-Whit” and “that woman” — were of particular concern to some aides and political advisers, who believe he risked alienating voters in a pivotal state.
Representative Paul Mitchell, a Michigan Republican, said he had contacted a senior White House official, as well as Ms. Whitmer herself, to express his unhappiness about their mutual sniping.
“It is not helpful to hurl names and talk about badly about people,” Mr. Mitchell said. “We need to focus on the problem.”
At Mr. Trump’s re-election campaign, staff members have closely monitored internal polling data showing an erosion of the gains Mr. Trump made immediately after he put social distancing guidelines in place. Advisers are torn between knowing that a less abrasive approach would help Mr. Trump and their awareness that he can’t tolerate criticism, regardless of the setting.
Mr. Trump’s limited gains in the polls are all the more striking when compared with those made by governors in both parties; many are enjoying double-digit gains in their approval ratings. And Mr. Trump’s penchant for ad hominem attacks, Republicans say, illustrates why he has little room for growth among the electorate.
“He can’t escape his instincts, his desire to put people down, like Mitt Romney, or to talk about his ratings,” said former Representative Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican. “That’s why he’s not getting the George W. Bush post-9/11 treatment. A leader in this sort of crisis should have a 75-to-80-percent approval rating.”
That would prove difficult for even a more conventional president at a time the country is so politically divided, but a number of prominent Republicans believe Mr. Trump has hurt himself by making only the most halting attempts at demonstrating an above-the-fray unity.
For example, aides to both Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama said that neither had been asked by the White House to do anything to aid the response to the crisis.
“The model of Obama asking Bush and Clinton to work on Haiti is a really good model,” said former Gov. Bill Haslam of Tennessee, recalling how Mr. Obama deployed Mr. Bush and former President Bill Clinton to lead the United States’ assistance to Haiti after the devastating 2010 earthquake there.
But Mr. Haslam and other Republicans believe Mr. Trump needs to go much further. Mr. Haslam called for creating a recovery team and installing “the economic equivalent of Dr. Fauci” as its leader. Asked whom he had in mind, Mr. Haslam suggested Mitch Daniels, who previously served as the governor of Indiana, the head of the Office of Management and Budget and as chief executive of the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly.
A number of senators, including Mr. Graham, are also pushing for a sort of economic task force to complement the virus task force.
“The administration needs to be thinking through what does it look like to get back to business,” said Senator Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, suggesting that it should “give a lot of thought to how we scale back up economically, because that’s going to be the next big challenge for us.”
The health of the economy may pose the biggest challenge to Mr. Trump’s re-election.
Mr. Toomey said he “won’t be surprised if we have 25 percent unemployment,” which would match the height of the Great Depression, by the start of the summer. But he said that if voters believed “the president has handled this well under the circumstances, and we’re on a good path, he has a shot.”
Other Republicans are more skeptical that Mr. Trump can win if he’s still saddled with double-digit unemployment in November. “I think that makes it really hard,” said Tony Fratto, a former Bush administration official.
And then there’s the matter of Mr. Trump and his conduct at the daily briefings.
Mr. Toomey has been outspoken about the need for Americans to wear masks when they leave home. Last week he had a 20-minute conversation with the president, whom he described as “thoughtful and engaged.”
By week’s end, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had issued guidelines: People should wear “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” The agency’s decision was based in part on recent studies showing that people without symptoms can give the virus to others.
But in the same briefing where he announced the guidelines, Mr. Trump diminished the move as “a recommendation.”
“I just don’t want to wear one myself,” he said, explaining that he had no symptoms. “I am feeling good.”
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Now they are saying that 8 out of every 10 that have died from this candy ass virus were either lifetime smokers or obese.
Measles and Polio and rolling around on the floor laughing at Covid19.
That was pretty much what was said on the first page of this thread 7 weeks ago. It's only new news if you lack the skills or haven't bothered in trying to piece information together.
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Ok after a lot of messing around i got hold of some Italian data. This is not a complete country view, it is only verified municipalities.
There are 21 municipalities in the data set. Total deaths are for 1st March to the 28th March.
2019 recorded 14,603 deaths.
2020 recorded 29,565 deaths.
Change +14,962 deaths.
I have the total Italy country deaths for March 2019 which was 57,882 therefore the 2019 number of 14,603 in the above data represents 25% of the 2019 value.
I would not extrapolate the data across the entire country but i would assume it would be conservative to double that figure and say this has caused at least +30k deaths above normal trendline.
Hopefully my posts with the actual data are.being followed here because it's been a headache to find it.
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Now they are saying that 8 out of every 10 that have died from this candy ass virus were either lifetime smokers or obese.
Measles and Polio and rolling around on the floor laughing at Covid19.
If you want to talk about obesity being an epidemic that’s kills large numbers of people, I’m all in on that one.
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Lets not forget that bulking bodybuilders are obese.
Just because you have some muscle doesnt mean youre healthy.
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Lets not forget that bulking bodybuilders are obese.
Just because you have some muscle doesnt mean youre healthy.
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Ok after a lot of messing around i got hold of some Italian data. This is not a complete country view, it is only verified municipalities.
There are 21 municipalities in the data set. Total deaths are for 1st March to the 28th March.
2019 recorded 14,603 deaths.
2020 recorded 29,565 deaths.
Change +14,962 deaths.
I have the total Italy country deaths for March 2019 which was 57,882 therefore the 2019 number of 14,603 in the above data represents 25% of the 2019 value.
I would not extrapolate the data across the entire country but i would assume it would be conservative to double that figure and say this has caused at least +30k deaths above normal trendline.
Hopefully my posts with the actual data are.being followed here because it's been a headache to find it.
But but dems, just flu, 5g, not real...... ::)
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Some people are going to die no matter how old they are.
They have weak immune systems or some peculiar susceptibility to the virus.
It sucks for them and their families.
Just hope you are not one of those unfortunate people.
Some people who contract COVID - 19 will die from it regardless of their age. All people are going to die no matter how old they are. Some will die young and some don't die until they are very old, but eventually everyone dies.
A friend of mine has a weak immune system as a result of chemotherapy when she had throat cancer. This is a side effect I'd not known about before. Her immune system will never recover.
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
Army of one incoming.....
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
What time period last year?
Yes it's possible, but also worth considering that there are fewer people around with serious comorbitites and compromised immune systems right now which would cause a peak in covid19 hospitalisation/death, because they were taken out already by a bad flu.
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
I never knew this message board had so many scientists who specialize in viruses.
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I never knew this message board had so many scientists who specialize in viruses.
You mean like the scientists at the WHO that are meant to be experts and who work full time at this that basically got everything wrong?
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I never knew this message board had so many scientists who specialize in viruses.
Isnt it amazing?
And the numbers grow day by day
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Don't tell the public. The stock price might drop.
Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman has recovered from the coronavirus
Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman fell ill with the coronavirus about three weeks ago and has since recovered and been cleared by physicians, according to a company spokesman.
The executive remained in charge of Morgan Stanley the entire time he was ill and has been working from home, according to spokesman Wesley McDade.
“Given the fact that Mr. Gorman’s symptoms were not severe and that he continued to function as Chairman and CEO while working from home throughout the illness (as are more than 90% of our employees), it was determined that his illness was not material” enough to disclose to shareholders in a filing, McDade said in an email.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/morgan-stanley-ceo-james-gorman-has-recovered-from-coronavirus.html
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UK guidance on identifying cause of death
Medical practitioners are required to certify causes of death “to the best of their knowledge and belief”. Without diagnostic proof, if appropriate and to avoid delay, medical practitioners can circle ‘2’ in the MCCD (“information from post-mortem may be available later”) or tick Box B on the reverse of the MCCD for ante-mortem investigations. For example, if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID- 19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3zBsPMUzXQRTlyp1uQ9aw-o9Kshl_8E2-8Tbw9CJlwxFP-iFc8lMWDZ-I
So, no test and it can be labelled a covid19 death..
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I never knew this message board had so many scientists who specialize in viruses.
Hell yes, but none of them post info about medical qualifications ;D
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Hell yes, but none of them post info about medical qualifications ;D
what would that prove, we're amongst colleagues after all ;D
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UK guidance on identifying cause of death
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3zBsPMUzXQRTlyp1uQ9aw-o9Kshl_8E2-8Tbw9CJlwxFP-iFc8lMWDZ-I
So, no test and it can be labelled a covid19 death..
Granny face is flip flopping again. You need to take your happy pills?
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what would that prove, we're amongst colleagues after all ;D
;D ;D ;D
what they will do after china shit ???
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
Eh... no.
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
Dude...........
Those people don't even know what gender they are.......
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Los Angeles County Extends Stay-at-Home Order to May 15
The people of Los Angeles County will have to remain on lockdown for at least another month ... county officials have extended an order until May 15.
L.A. County's public health director, Barbara Ferrer, made the announcement Friday during a press conference. The "Safer-at-Home" initiative has closed public beaches, most parks and hiking trails, and limits movement to essential places like the grocery store or doctor's offices.
Angelinos have seen a drastic change when out in public ... most people wear masks or some sort of face-covering device ... and social distancing signs are posted in grocery store checkout lines.
The initiative has obviously been a major hit to the restaurants and local businesses, though many have launched carry-out food programs to continue some sort of revenue stream.
The order had originally only been in place until April 19, but at the time, it was subject to extension.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/10/los-angeles-county-safer-at-home-extended-may-coronavirus-covid/?fbclid=IwAR17M1fMvDxEa1P9-KVtb0_-LDfL_mu7PvFgQwknDGMvz8lip0EMXmKPZOo
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Los Angeles County Extends Stay-at-Home Order to May 15
The people of Los Angeles County will have to remain on lockdown for at least another month ... county officials have extended an order until May 15.
L.A. County's public health director, Barbara Ferrer, made the announcement Friday during a press conference. The "Safer-at-Home" initiative has closed public beaches, most parks and hiking trails, and limits movement to essential places like the grocery store or doctor's offices.
Angelinos have seen a drastic change when out in public ... most people wear masks or some sort of face-covering device ... and social distancing signs are posted in grocery store checkout lines.
The initiative has obviously been a major hit to the restaurants and local businesses, though many have launched carry-out food programs to continue some sort of revenue stream.
The order had originally only been in place until April 19, but at the time, it was subject to extension.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/10/los-angeles-county-safer-at-home-extended-may-coronavirus-covid/?fbclid=IwAR17M1fMvDxEa1P9-KVtb0_-LDfL_mu7PvFgQwknDGMvz8lip0EMXmKPZOo
I swear they are going to keep extending this thing until people riot
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I never knew this message board had so many scientists who specialize in viruses.
So many potential Nobel prize winners on this site , wow !.
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I swear they are going to keep extending this thing until people riot
I say we march. Im very serious. Its time to start getting organized.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending20march2020
The link above is U.K. government site & makes for interesting and eye opening statistical reading.
The US I would think has a similar government department & site.
Very much worth checking it out.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending20march2020
The link above is U.K. government site & makes for interesting and eye opening statistical reading.
The US I would think has a similar government department & site.
Very much worth checking it out.
What's so eye opening about it?
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March 16th – The Ferguson Report Is Released
On March 16th a professor from the Imperial College in London called Neil Ferguson used a mathematical computer model he created in 2009 to estimate the infection rate and death toll of the coronavirus.
he predicted 250,000 to 500,000 deaths in the UK alone
March 23rd UK goes on lockdown
March 25th – Ferguson Retracts His Prediction
On Wednesday 25th only 9 days after scaring the world into an unprecedented lock down Ferguson drags himself off out of “self isolation” to speak to a parliamentary committee and reveals that he has now readjusted his model and “now feels confident that the death toll in the UK will be below 20,000!”
So the guy who caused the world to shut down only 9 days before with doomsday figures predicting millions of deaths and saying we need to self isolate and practise social distancing for up to 18 months has now told parliament that he was wrong and the figure he now predicts is below 20,000.
What is astonishing is why this was not being reported on every mainstream media outlet as the biggest governmental cock up in history at this point. Yet we hear virtually nothing and the media continue to spread fear on a scale never seen.
Why Is His Retraction Not The Biggest News In The World?
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March 16th – The Ferguson Report Is Released
On March 16th a professor from the Imperial College in London called Neil Ferguson used a mathematical computer model he created in 2009 to estimate the infection rate and death toll of the coronavirus.
he predicted 250,000 to 500,000 deaths in the UK alone
March 23rd UK goes on lockdown
March 25th – Ferguson Retracts His Prediction
On Wednesday 25th only 9 days after scaring the world into an unprecedented lock down Ferguson drags himself off out of “self isolation” to speak to a parliamentary committee and reveals that he has now readjusted his model and “now feels confident that the death toll in the UK will be below 20,000!”
So the guy who caused the world to shut down only 9 days before with doomsday figures predicting millions of deaths and saying we need to self isolate and practise social distancing for up to 18 months has now told parliament that he was wrong and the figure he now predicts is below 20,000.
What is astonishing is why this was not being reported on every mainstream media outlet as the biggest governmental cock up in history at this point. Yet we hear virtually nothing and the media continue to spread fear on a scale never seen.
Why Is His Retraction Not The Biggest News In The World?
Gotta keep the hysteria going. Do you know how much the media loves all the attention they have been getting the last 2 months?
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he predicted 250,000 to 500,000 deaths in the UK alone
March 23rd UK goes on lockdown
March 25th – Ferguson Retracts His Prediction “now feels confident that the death toll in the UK will be below 20,000!”
Why Is His Retraction Not The Biggest News In The World?
The issue is the media cherry picked one scenario, the worst case scenario (because it sells the most ads) and pushed it out there.
The reality is these guys would have several models across a number of scenarios during the initial planning phase and it would be normal to downgrade estimates from a worst case to better case as restrictions increased and positive data was reported. It is normal and expected. The guy actually clarified it on twitter after he copped a social media beating.
The media have a LOT to answer for. Most shit out there seems to be cut and paste now. Nobody fact checks.
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The gov in nj again stated stay home it’s not even close to being over ,we are in a surge week ,masks are mandatory in stores that are open.then you hear a plan of economic reopening soon.ha.luckily I am working and not laid off.
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Okay, there is some serious fuckery going on with the numbers that are being recorded. Below is a link to the recorded CDC data, for Covid, Influenza, Pneumonia, etc. A couple of things stand out. 1. Pneumonia deaths are much greater, week to week. 2. Covid deaths vs pneumonia deaths, being recorded, stated to state. NY and NJ have high Covid deaths, and low pneumonia deaths, when compared to CA or TX, which of the exact opposite. CA and TX have high pneumonia death and low Covid. The CDC has actually explained this, and admitted that many pneumonia deaths are being documented as Covid, because they can't be for sure what the cause of death was. The numbers arent adding up.
https://data.cdc.gov/api/views/hc4f-j6nb/rows.csv?accessType=DOWNLOAD&bom=true&format=true
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The gov in nj again stated stay home it’s not even close to being over ,we are in a surge week ,masks are mandatory in stores that are open.then you hear a plan of economic reopening soon.ha.luckily I am working and not laid off.
Gov. Murphy is an idiot.
He marches lockstep with whatever California does. Doesn't have an original thought in his head.
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Gov. Murphy is an idiot.
He marches lockstep with whatever California does. Doesn't have an original thought in his head.
Well... CA just announced its looking like "Mid-Summer" before they remove the lockdown completely
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"Papers please".... "where are your papers?"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/antibody-test-allow-us-back-191110496.html
When and were do we start revolting?
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So many potential Nobel prize winners on this site , wow !.
I met a Nobel Prize winner - William Shockley. He was a fucking jerk. If you think that it requires some politically motivated prize to guarantee competence, you are sadly mistaken.
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Funny thing is that 99% of all modeling created to fight an epidemic are computer models. Heck, the majority of those computer models were at the request of entities other than the WHO. The WHO is shit. Pure and utter shit. Just another organization created for who knows what where useless politician has-beens go to essentially die while living a very lavish lifestyle.
If anything COVID demonstrated is the lack of coordination between the state and federal governments. I'm sorry if you're a democrat but... if you listen to Cuomo's press conferences and the thought of hitting the pierced-nippled fucker in the back of the head with a baseball bat doesn't come to mind...
I'm still amazed that we were so behind with this epidemic. Knowing how fucked up virulent outbreaks could potentially become you'd think the Department of Health could be looking for ways to effectively isolate and quarantine a population.
Here's a thought... use a hotel packed with people. Give 5% of the hosts red t-shirts with VIRUS on the front. Within 5 minutes of the "viruses" walking around touching people, tell the hotel manager that he and his hotel are the subjects of an exercise. See how he/she reacts. Learn from it. Do something! There's excellent population control protocols out there... schools have it for active school shooters, the different fire departments have them for tall high rises, etc.
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Just came out that here in L.A. we have what probably is called "Herd immunity", meaning Corona actually came here from China last year, which is why we had an epidemic flu season last year with 3000 deaths and 55,000 hospitalizations, 2 to 3 times the average number of flu deaths. Latest research shows it worked it's way through some of the population that now has immunity, and this is why California doesn't seem to be hit as hard as NY or other metropolitan centers that size. It's a flu.
Bro where did you read this?
If it came here from China last year what is the reason these people are giving for Wuhan being hit so hard?
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This rubbish is simply more of the same faggetry that has permeated the country for the last generation.
-everyone gets a trophy no matter how much or how little you contribute
-play sports but don't keep score
-everyone's actions, no matter how absurd are to be accepted
Now after this exercise in stupidity is over, all the cowards who stayed home and hide under their bed and literally drove around in their own car wearing a mask and gloves will be able to take credit for "saving humanity."
The scared and the weak get another trophy for doing jack and shit.
Cowards.
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Well... CA just announced its looking like "Mid-Summer" before they remove the lockdown completely
That’s killing resteraunt and gym buissness altogether then.they are the most visited daily no...that’s almost 3 months closed for such places.
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March 16th – The Ferguson Report Is Released
On March 16th a professor from the Imperial College in London called Neil Ferguson used a mathematical computer model he created in 2009 to estimate the infection rate and death toll of the coronavirus.
he predicted 250,000 to 500,000 deaths in the UK alone
March 23rd UK goes on lockdown
March 25th – Ferguson Retracts His Prediction
On Wednesday 25th only 9 days after scaring the world into an unprecedented lock down Ferguson drags himself off out of “self isolation” to speak to a parliamentary committee and reveals that he has now readjusted his model and “now feels confident that the death toll in the UK will be below 20,000!”
So the guy who caused the world to shut down only 9 days before with doomsday figures predicting millions of deaths and saying we need to self isolate and practise social distancing for up to 18 months has now told parliament that he was wrong and the figure he now predicts is below 20,000.
What is astonishing is why this was not being reported on every mainstream media outlet as the biggest governmental cock up in history at this point. Yet we hear virtually nothing and the media continue to spread fear on a scale never seen.
Why Is His Retraction Not The Biggest News In The World?
Thus far none of the models have been anywhere near accurate
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:P
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5FKLkWY/EVVu-YQUXs-AA-h-QF.jpg)
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:P
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5FKLkWY/EVVu-YQUXs-AA-h-QF.jpg)
The libs will cherish the new found control over them and be the 1st ones to report their neighbor for non-compliance
1984 here we come!
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This rubbish is simply more of the same faggetry that has permeated the country for the last generation.
-everyone gets a trophy no matter how much or how little you contribute
-play sports but don't keep score
-everyone's actions, no matter how absurd are to be accepted
Now after this exercise in stupidity is over, all the cowards who stayed home and hide under their bed and literally drove around in their own car wearing a mask and gloves will be able to take credit for "saving humanity."
The scared and the weak get another trophy for doing jack and shit.
Towards.
It's "faggotry" and "jackshit".
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So whats new? Still just a flu or have you guys moved on?
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This rubbish is simply more of the same faggetry that has permeated the country for the last generation.
-everyone gets a trophy no matter how much or how little you contribute
-play sports but don't keep score
-everyone's actions, no matter how absurd are to be accepted
Now after this exercise in stupidity is over, all the cowards who stayed home and hide under their bed and literally drove around in their own car wearing a mask and gloves will be able to take credit for "saving humanity."
The scared and the weak get another trophy for doing jack and shit.
Cowards.
Spot on TommyW - And WTF is up with those Retards Driving alone in their car & wearing
A Mask & Gloves are they that Scared & Stupid - Clearly so- Poor ole Snowflakes.
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What about this scenario - the gov't declares that if you are not wearing a mask, you are considered a threat to the public health. Civilians can kill other civilians if they are a "threat". Would make a good movie (I hope is all).
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Philly Police Drag Man From Bus for Not Wearing a Face Mask
The below video, shared on social media on Friday, shows multiple police officers in Philadelphia forcibly removing a man from a public bus for enforcing what was — apparently as a result of this incident — an exceptionally short-lived mandate requiring riders to wear face masks:
Under a new coronavirus-prompted policy, which went into effect Thursday under the name “Lifeline Service Schedule,” the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority announced service cuts and said it was “now asking all riders to wear masks or other facial coverings, consistent with new CDC guidelines, to protect both riders and operators.” This was apparently not a request, however, as riders soon began reporting instances of people not being allowed on public transit vehicles if they weren’t wearing a mask:
In a statement to WHYY on Friday, a SEPTA spokesperson confirmed that masks were indeed a requirement for customers, emphasizing that the agency was looking to avoid arresting anyone for violating the policy, and that “the covering can be as simple as a shirt, bandana or anything else someone can grab at home before they head out.” WHYY also reports that transit police were informed of the mandate on Wednesday in an emailed directive from the SEPTA police chief. It’s not clear if or how well this mandate was actually communicated to riders, however, or how widely it was enforced — or if it was even legal.
After the video of the rider’s violent ejection went viral, SEPTA officials said the policy was being reviewed and police said they were investigating the incident. SEPTA later rescinded the policy.
According to CBSN Philly, SEPTA operators briefly had the right to refuse service to customers who weren’t wearing masks, which is reportedly what happened on Friday:
During Friday’s press conference, Philadelphia Managing Director Brian Abernathy says the bus driver initially asked the man to get off the bus since he wasn’t wearing a mask. The bus driver then pulled over and called police after the man refused to leave.
“Police were not responding to the social distancing complaint, police were responding to the fact the person was asked to leave the bus and refused,” Abernathy said.
But as seen in the video, the passenger was not arrested or fined afterward, and as CBSN notes, “some sort of official boarded the bus telling everyone without a mask, that they had to exit or that police would physically remove them. That one man didn’t get off and that’s why he was physically removed.”
The Philly Transit Riders Union, which called attention to the incident on Friday, released a statement detailing SEPTA’s failures and highlighting a far easier way to have dealt with the situation. “If riding public transit requires a face mask,” the organization said, “then SEPTA must provide masks to transit workers and riders”:
On Thursday, SEPTA “urged” riders to wear face masks, despite masks still being listed as a prohibited item on other parts of SEPTA’s website. At some point later in the day, masks apparently became a “condition for riding transit,” although a rider would only know this if they asked SEPTA directly on Twitter. Bus operators received a conflicting message that transit riders did not have to wear a mask.
Under normal conditions, conflicting messages from SEPTA management might only cost riders their time– missed birthdays, graduations, job interviews, doctor’s appointments. During the COVID-19 pandemic, an interaction with an armed police officer could cost a Philly transit rider their life.
On Tuesday, the agency confirmed that three Philadelphia transit workers had been killed by COVID-19, and as of Friday, at least 100 SEPTA employees had tested positive for the coronavirus. While it hasn’t been hit anywhere near as hard as the MTA has in New York City, SEPTA has still been rocked by the virus and seen ridership plummet. The agency has also been accused of putting “profit over people” by Transport Workers Union Local 234 president Willie Brown, who has said SEPTA was too slow to enact policies to protect its workforce.
The now widely seen incident in Philadelphia obviously comes at a particularly tense time throughout the country, as authorities and the public navigate brand new legal and social norms amid efforts to confront and contain the coronavirus. The risk of contagion is one problem; the risk of violence and intolerance caused by fear or misunderstanding of contagion is another. And while wearing face masks in public may be what the CDC finally came around to recommending, that doesn’t mean everyone is going to find and wear one, or is going to feel safer if they do:
“This (wearing a homemade mask) seems like a reasonable response unless you just sort of take American society out of it. When you can’t do that, you’re basically telling people to look dangerous given racial stereotypes that are out there,” Trevon Logan, an economics professor at Ohio State University, recently explained to CNN. “This is in the larger context of black men fitting the description of a suspect who has a hood on, who has a face covering on. It looks like almost every criminal sketch of any garden-variety black suspect.”
Thanks to the coronavirus pandemic, public mask-wearing is undoubtedly going to become far more widespread in America, even if or when the threat of COVID-19 has passed. In the meantime, state, local, and federal authorities still seem to be designing their public-health policies on the fly, leaving lots of room for screwups, confusion, and overreach or abuse. Friday’s incident in Philadelphia is unlikely to be the last of its kind.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/philly-police-drag-man-from-bus-for-not-wearing-a-face-mask.html
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In some countries people are not allowed to wear masks, so they protest by wearing masks.
And now people has to wear masks, so people protest by not wearing masks.
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It's "faggotry" and "jackshit".
It's "kiss" and "my ass."
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In some countries people are not allowed to wear masks, so they protest by wearing masks.
And now people has to wear masks, so people protest by not wearing masks.
Then let them get infected, no one cares.
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Then let them get infected, no one cares.
Masks don't really stop you from getting infected, more wearing one stops you infecting others. So masks only work if everyone is wearing them.
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Depends on the mask.
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Masks don't really stop you from getting infected, more wearing one stops you infecting others. So masks only work if everyone is wearing them.
Surely the mask can help or considerably reduce chances, the N95 masks.
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Surely the mask can help or considerably reduce chances, the N95 masks.
Yes. but good luck getting a single N95 mask right now let alone a new N95 mask for each day full you're out.
Also you'd really need to wear eye protection/googles with an N95 to provide you with superior protection. Otherwise you're not really that much more protected than you would be with a well fitted cloth mask.
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Spot on TommyW - And WTF is up with those Retards Driving alone in their car & wearing
A Mask & Gloves are they that Scared & Stupid - Clearly so- Poor ole Snowflakes.
:D
Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.
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:D
Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.
The big one you left out are anaemic vegans who are often immunocompromised because of iron deficiency.
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I met a Nobel Prize winner - William Shockley. He was a fucking jerk. If you think that it requires some politically motivated prize to guarantee competence, you are sadly mistaken.
Some black muslim guy from America (1 with trans wife) was given that medal too ...............no idea for what ???
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So whats new? Still just a flu or have you guys moved on?
It is still just A flu. Almost 98% of people infected survive.
So you tell me. Are 2 million people in USA still going to die? So far the SCIENTIFIC community has had to "revise" their models 3 times. First it was 2 million were going to die. Then it was 100k to 200k. Now it is less than 100k, maybe it will be 40k.
Two years ago 60k people died of the flu in the USA. I believe this flu season has claimed over 30k SO FAR. And all that is with an existing flu shot. How come we are not stopping life and taking the same mediation measures every year?
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I don't believe in coronavirus
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Yes. but good luck getting a single N95 mask right now let alone a new N95 mask for each day full you're out.
Also you'd really need to wear eye protection/googles with an N95 to provide you with superior protection. Otherwise you're not really that much more protected than you would be with a well fitted cloth mask.
I would think it's far more likely you inhale it through your mouth than it gets to you through the eyes.
Do you have any reason to think otherwise?
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It is still just A flu. Almost 98% of people infected survive.
So you tell me. Are 2 million people in USA still going to die? So far the SCIENTIFIC community has had to "revise" their models 3 times. First it was 2 million were going to die. Then it was 100k to 200k. Now it is less than 100k, maybe it will be 40k.
Two years ago 60k people died of the flu in the USA. I believe this flu season has claimed over 30k SO FAR. And all that is with an existing flu shot. How come we are not stopping life and taking the same mediation measures every year?
I reckon the reason life isn't stopped every year is because it's manageable, this one wasn't.
The evidence that this virus isn't manageble is that every single country on the planet has acted with various types of lock downs.
As far as numbers dead - we will have to add to that list everybody that will die because of suicide, depression etc due to the mass unemployment that will follow in its steps.
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I would think it's far more likely you inhale it through your mouth than it gets to you through the eyes.
Do you have any reason to think otherwise?
Cloth masks protect against droplets, but not against aerosolization. N95 protect better against aerosolization, but aerosolization can still infect through the eyes.
This diagram should help. For now it would be best practice to leave the N95 masks for hospital staff. Just wear a cloth mask and some large glasses/shades, but this only works effectively if everyone wears a mask as infected people are then breathing/coughing into their mask and not into their surroundings.
(https://www.facs.org/-/media/images/covid19/ppe_table_ukhs.ashx?h=561&w=700)
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Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!
(https://www.dcreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virus-meme.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF
Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.
Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.
"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.
After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.
All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.
News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.
"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."
The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.
CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE
Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.
Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.
He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.
His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.
Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.
The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.
The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.
"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.
Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.
Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.
Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.
Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.
"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.
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Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!
(https://www.dcreport.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virus-meme.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF
Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.
Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.
"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.
After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.
All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.
News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.
"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."
The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.
CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE
Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.
Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.
He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.
His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.
Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.
The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.
The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.
"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.
Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.
Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.
Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.
Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.
"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.
240, no one reads your walls of nonsense. Please fuck off.
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Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.
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A BELFAST pub is pulling out all the stops - and the pints - to keep spirits up for those living in lockdown with a door-to-door Guinness delivery service.
The Hatfield House on Ormeau Road in south Belfast has been delivering freshly-poured pints of Guinness to customers across the Northern Irish capital since the coronavirus pandemic prompted the temporary closure of all pubs.
Using a state-of-the-art van kitted out with a portable tap system, the service was created to help cater to those missing the distinctive taste of a perfectly poured pint of the black stuff.
Customers simply call up Hatfield House, place their orders the day before delivery and, before they know it, a fresh pint of Guinness is on its way.
Mobile bar staff are also careful to ensure it’s a contact-free service too, with drinks poured on location into plastic glasses by bar staff wearing latex gloves which are then left on the doorstep.
Writing on Facebook, The Hatfield House said: "We are delighted to be able to offer all our customers the goodness of a freshly poured pint delivered to their home in the safety of isolation.
"The service areas in the mobile units are sanitised after every use for your safety. Looking forward to serving you all soon.
"Stay safe, stay home and let us bring the pub to you."
The pub was keen to stress any prospective customers approaching them on the street will be turned away – as rules over social distancing dictate.
They said: "Folks as with all our deliveries this is a contact free service please do not approach us on the street if you see us.
"We cannot accept an order unless it has been called through to the number above. This is for the safety of both our customers and staff."
With the lockdown likely to continue for the next few weeks at least, The Hatfield House is likely to be very busy.
https://www.irishpost.com/news/belfast-pub-delivering-pints-freshly-poured-guinness-door-door-lockdown-183328?fbclid=IwAR3lG_Vd3Vg_BEgXfk4tx4wEgfRgDnaZbYNTREWgmFoR3vF5PYAlu62nX3g
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listen from 7 mins onwards
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Pure folly.
The strong and the smart are now suffering because of the weak and the dumb.
The whole thing is bullshit.
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Dr Shivas videos are a good watch from a science/health point of view even if the deep state and global elites theory are too much for you.
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And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit. Lovely.
Laughable.
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Question is : Who is paying you for those Safety Fat creations ???
;D
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240, no one reads your walls of nonsense. Please fuck off.
Moron thinks he will influence others ::)
His nursing home lifestyle must be so exiting ;D
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And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit. Lovely.
Laughable.
Could you be more specific on which group that is?? :D
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2020 Burning Man Canceled, Virtual Black Rock City Staged Instead
You can add the annual Burning Man festival to the list of events affected by the Covid-19 pandemic. Burning Man officials have revealed that the annual event in the desert has been canceled, but there is a virtual alternative coming.
The retreat into the Nevada desert was scheduled for the week of Aug. 30-Sept. 7, but the on-sale for Burning Man 2020 was halted last month as pandemic measures started being taken across the U.S. Organizers have offered a refund to those who purchased "early bird" tickets. However, it appears as though officials are also attempting to keep the spirit of Burning Man alive in the virtual world this year.
https://loudwire.com/2020-burning-man-canceled-virtual-black-rock-city/
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Over 22,000 dead in the US...apparently most if not all black, says the media. WTF?
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Illness and death have always been a part of life.
This madness we now endure has NEVER been a part of life.
This is going to go very bad very fast if this stupidity does not end.
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And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit. Lovely.
Laughable.
Which minority group? I have a feeling I won't be surprised at your answer.
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This economic shut down is the biggest mistake this country has ever made. Madness.
The virus is shit. Shutting off the economy is insanity.
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This economic shut down is the biggest mistake this country has ever made. Madness.
The virus is shit. Shutting off the economy is insanity.
You and I are in TOTAL agreement on these matters, friend.
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Agree.
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Agree.
You pushed the message like crazy that this was horrific and end of days like stuff.
Or did you change your mind?
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And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit. Lovely.
Laughable.
Honestly, I would like to see proof of this. When I first heard about it, it seemed bogus. Right now there are so many scientists and others doing multitudes of studies that I suspect everyone is searching for reasons why they are either less likely or more likely to become infected with the coronavirus...COVID-19 are willing to immediately buy into unproven theories.
Obviously, those who have less access to medical care are more likely to become seriously sick and possibly die from COVID-19. Whether or not some groups are more likely to contract the virus is at best, inconclusive.
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And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit. Lovely.
Laughable.
What group?
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Honestly, I wish I was gagging on some thick ass cock right about now
:-X
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What group?
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/12/coronavirus-update-de-blasio-says-rate-of-increase-in-cases-has-slowed/
The mayor said he aims to create community testing sites by the end of the week at:
* East New York, Brooklyn
* Morrisania, the Bronx
* Harlem
* Jamaica, Queens
* The Vanderbilt Clinic on Staten Island
East New YorK
The racial makeup of the neighborhood was 63.6% (58,453) African American, 3.0% (2,764) Asian, 1.3% (1,240) White, 0.3% (291) Native American, 0.0% (38) Pacific Islander, 0.7% (683) from other races, and 1.3% (1,237) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 29.6% (27,252) of the population.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisania,_Bronx
Today's Morrisania is a low-income neighborhood that predominantly consists of Latin Americans and African Americans.
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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/12/coronavirus-update-de-blasio-says-rate-of-increase-in-cases-has-slowed/
The mayor said he aims to create community testing sites by the end of the week at:
* East New York, Brooklyn
* Morrisania, the Bronx
* Harlem
* Jamaica, Queens
* The Vanderbilt Clinic on Staten Island
East New YorK
The racial makeup of the neighborhood was 63.6% (58,453) African American, 3.0% (2,764) Asian, 1.3% (1,240) White, 0.3% (291) Native American, 0.0% (38) Pacific Islander, 0.7% (683) from other races, and 1.3% (1,237) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 29.6% (27,252) of the population.[3]
Ah, that group!
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Corona is racist
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Corona is racist
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Corona is racist
Coronavirus Latest: White House Designates Baltimore-DC Corridor As Emerging Hot Spot For Coronavirus, Hogan Says – CBS Baltimore
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-latest-white-house-designates-baltimore-dc-corridor-as-emerging-hot-spot-for-coronavirus-hogan-says/
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Copy/Paste from FB but love this:
We’re seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.
People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud.
Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud.
A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud.
A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud.
A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud.
A lone paddleboarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.
People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.
Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud.
Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentivized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.
You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply.
You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.
You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on?
How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?
If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?
YES. Yes, you would.
That much has become painfully obvious to me.
And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."
But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily.
They control your mind.
They control you through fear.
They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.
They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply.
No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.
YOU ARE IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.”
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Sounds like some grounded teenager wrote that post.
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The emergency is OVER. End the shut down.
Illness and death = part of life.
This shit = intentional wanton insanity.
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Keep dreaming tough guy.
Your gym won't be re-opening until 2021!
Get used to it.
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I’m kinda liking this lockdown shit!
I’m essential personnel so I still go to work..but I get paid double while I’m there and I get paid regularly during my off hours(24 hours a day pay).
But, I don’t have to do any extra shit...I don’t have to teach classes, I don’t have to be in crowds...and I can cover my face and not have to shave!
It’s been good for me!
Bench
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Well your tune would change if you were laid off and fired like tens of millions.
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It would affect the economy without a lock down too.
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It would affect the economy without a lock down too.
::) Not even remotely close to the depression coming our way.
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Well your tune would change if you were laid off and fired like tens of millions.
Yeah, no shit....but it hasn’t, and I’m enjoying it!
Bench
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I’m kinda liking this lockdown shit!
I’m essential personnel so I still go to work..but I get paid double while I’m there and I get paid regularly during my off hours(24 hours a day pay).
But, I don’t have to do any extra shit...I don’t have to teach classes, I don’t have to be in crowds...and I can cover my face and not have to shave!
It’s been good for me!
Bench
Good for you Bench!
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I’m kinda liking this lockdown shit!
I’m essential personnel so I still go to work..but I get paid double while I’m there and I get paid regularly during my off hours(24 hours a day pay).
But, I don’t have to do any extra shit...I don’t have to teach classes, I don’t have to be in crowds...and I can cover my face and not have to shave!
It’s been good for me!
Bench
Need to be clean-shaven if you want the mask to work.
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::) Not even remotely close to the depression coming our way.
It's a shame not a single government on planet earth is as smart as you are.
One would think at least one governement, just one, would think "you know what, let's do nothing, it will be better!"
But no.
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It's a shame not a single government on planet earth is as smart as you are.
One would think at least one governement, just one, would think "you know what, let's do nothing, it will be better!"
But no.
Intelligent people don’t work in government. Only the lowest common denominators are attracted to guv work
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Intelligent people don’t work in government. Only the lowest common denominators are attracted to guv work
Maybe they work FOR the government.
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Out of 2,821,149 tested in the US, 560,891 tested positive. 80% of all tested in the US so far are Corona free.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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Keep dreaming tough guy.
Your gym won't be re-opening until 2021!
Get used to it.
:) I have missed two workouts. Two. When you're cool and when you're a legitimate competitive athlete, you have access to a real commercial quality gym. It's a club... sort of like being in a gang... But with better hygiene and less prison time.
Stay cool iron brother.
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:) I have missed two workouts. Two. When you're cool and when you're a legitimate competitive athlete, you have access to a real commercial quality gym. It's a club... sort of like being in a gang... But with better hygiene and less prison time.
Stay cool iron brother.
Sounds hot
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:) I have missed two workouts. Two. When you're cool and when you're a legitimate competitive athlete, you have access to a real commercial quality gym. It's a club... sort of like being in a gang... But with better hygiene and less prison time.
Stay cool iron brother.
Good for you 👍🏻 Lucky you got that option
I’d like to come train - only the 12,000 ml round trip may just be a slight problem.
😂🤣😂
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:) I have missed two workouts. Two. When you're cool and when you're a legitimate competitive athlete, you have access to a real commercial quality gym. It's a club... sort of like being in a gang... But with better hygiene and less prison time.
Stay cool iron brother.
I dunno, I've seen some shit in the gym that would make prisoners cringe.
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Need to be clean-shaven if you want the mask to work.
Nah, I’m wearing a full blown cartridge respirator...it seals tight and is beard approved.
Bench
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Intelligent people don’t work in government. Only the lowest common denominators are attracted to guv work
Haha yet they are the only ones with an income right now...
Bench
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Haha yet they are the only ones with an income right now...
Bench
And many of them retire early with a pension and affordable health insurance until they are old enough for Medicare.
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The anatomy of a sh*tshow
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Trump’s propaganda-laden, off-the-rails coronavirus briefing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-propaganda-laden-off-the-rails-coronavirus-briefing/ar-BB12zZlm
Near the start of his daily coronavirus briefing on Monday, President Trump made a statement that betrayed, better than just about anything, how he views the purpose of such briefings.
Before playing a campaign-style video intended to show his decisive action on the virus and to accuse his critics of being the actual culprits on downplaying the threat, Trump cued it up by talking about what he wanted to do after the it played.
“Most importantly,” he said, “we’re going to get back on to the reason we’re here, which is the success we’re having.”
Trump’s self-promotion, falsehoods and use of dodgy medical advice in these coronavirus briefings have already led to a dialogue about whether networks should even carry them live. And on Monday, he seemed to be daring all of them to stop, turning the whole thing into a spectacle of government-produced propaganda and even more personal score-settling and grievances.
News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
Most notable was the video that was played. In it, media figures were shown early in the outbreak comparing the virus to the seasonal flu, as Trump has been criticized for doing much later on. Other clips played up the impact of his ban on travel from China, while yet more showed Trump personally making pronouncements about the steps he was taking — even at a time he was repeatedly and much more strongly downplaying the threat of the virus.
Trump was pressed on the production of the video, and he said it was made by White House officials.
Trump proceeded to downplay many complaints about the federal response, going so far as to say that there is no problem with the number of ventilators and other equipment available. The reality is significantly different, according to the states.
Trump also at one point maintained, “Everything we did was right.” When pressed on the claim, he declined to restate it but cast blame on governors for not stockpiling more ventilators.
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It was soon noted that the video Trump had cued up left out a significant chunk of time in February — after the China travel ban and before Trump acknowledged the severity of the situation in mid-March — in which he didn’t take significant steps.
“What did you do in February?” CBS News’s Paula Reid asked.
Trump responded, “What do you do when you have no cases in the whole United States?” Reid rightly noted that there were actually cases in February, but Trump ignored it, refocusing on the lack of cases in mid-January. Pressed, he assured that the administration had in February done “a lot, and in fact we’ll give you a list."
Indeed, Trump repeatedly suggested a false choice between shutting down the economy in January and doing something lesser either then or in February, when health officials were reportedly asking for more significant warnings and social distancing. He suggested it would be foolish to shut down the economy when there were no or extremely few cases in January, while failing to enunciate any steps taken in February.
Trump also used the briefing to repeatedly suggest he had absolute power to deal with the situation, despite the Constitution and centuries of Supreme Court precedent. He said that he had “ultimate authority" and said, “The president of the United States has the authority to do what the president has the authority to do, which is very powerful. The president of the United States calls the shots.” He added later that “when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total, and that’s the way it’s gonna be.”
This is unquestionably false, but Vice President Pence backed him up later in the briefing.
“Make no mistake about it: In the long history of this country, the authority of the president of the United States during national emergencies is unquestionably plenary,” Pence said, using a synonym for “absolute.” “You can look back through times of war and other national emergencies. And as the president said, we’ll happily brief that.”
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Another key moment in the briefing came at the outset, when Trump welcomed one of the lead doctors on the coronavirus task force, Anthony S. Fauci, to address an apparent rift between him and Trump. Trump had on Sunday night retweeted a tweet that included a call for Fauci to be fired, after Fauci said in an interview earlier in the day that certain recommendations made by health officials hadn’t been heeded.
Fauci dealt with the subject obliquely, saying that when the officials “formally” asked for something amounting to a shutdown of large portions of the economy, Trump listened. In fact, though, the New York Times report he was responding to Sunday was not that the officials had asked for a shutdown, but that they had recommended in February that people be warned about the dangers of the virus and to encourage social distancing. Such guidelines weren’t actually made by Trump until mid-March.
Fauci, as he has done before, downplayed the idea that he and Trump were at odds — even as he has repeatedly said things that suggested as much. He was pressed on whether he was making the statement voluntarily, and he bristled.
“Everything I do is voluntarily,” he said. “Please don’t even imply that.”
Given the spectacle that surrounded him, though, it was hardly ridiculous to ask whether he was being compelled to toe a line that Trump had set. Everything else in these briefings has suggested a president who insists upon it — including the marshaling of government resources to provide a misleading narrative and a president who demands constant credit while ignoring the facts on the ground.
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call 911, dearth need help .............. :-\
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dearth seems to think that people actually read his 3-4 page posts.
The more text the less chance of somebody reading it.
There is a reason Twitter is a success.
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"If Trump had acted sooner the dinosaurs would still be alive." -N. Pelosi.
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"If Trump had acted sooner the dinosaurs would still be alive." -N. Pelosi.
Lets stick to the facts.
CHINA
Coronavirus Cases:
1,949,989
view by country
Deaths:
122,731
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https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1249826956897591298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1249826956897591298&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Ftotal-authority-trumps-claim-presidential-024731814.html
Robby Soave
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I am far from a knee-jerk critic of Trump, but this press briefing has to be one of the most embarrassing moments of his presidency. Just an utterly unhinged, childish temper tantrum.
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In for some drama?
STEP 1: Grab a cup of coffee.
STEP 2: Click the Instagram app.
STEP 3: Type “Bill Gates”.
STEP 4: Read the comments on his last Instagram post.
They keep deleting comments but people come back for more.
If he ever considered being president, I guess this is a little taste 😂
I could only imagine Trump thinking to himself: that’s nothing, Bill.
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https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1249826956897591298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1249826956897591298&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Ftotal-authority-trumps-claim-presidential-024731814.html
Robby Soave
@robbysoave
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I am far from a knee-jerk critic of Trump, but this press briefing has to be one of the most embarrassing moments of his presidency. Just an utterly unhinged, childish temper tantrum.
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Dearth this is not a real photo. It has been shopped.
Mr. President Trump is a full grown MAN, not a baby with an adults head.
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dearth seems to believe anything on the internet!!
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Dearth this is not a real photo. It has been shopped.
Mr. President Trump is a full grown MAN, not a baby with an adults head.
Those are his real hands tho ;D
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Dearth this is not a real photo. It has been shopped.
Mr. President Trump is a full grown MAN, not a baby with an adults head.
Hahahahaha I can't stop laughing at this. ;D
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Trump halts WHO funding :D
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NYC Adds Nearly 4,000 People Who Never Tested Positive To Coronavirus Death Tolls >:(
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/ (https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/)
New York City added nearly 4,000 people who never tested positive for the coronavirus to its death toll Tuesday, bringing coronavirus-related deaths in the city to around 10,000 people.
The city decided to add 3,700 people to its death tolls, who they “presumed” to have died from the virus, according to a report from The New York Times. The additions increased the death toll in the U.S. by 17%, according to the Times report, and included people who were suffering from symptoms of the virus, such as intense coughing and a fever. (RELATED: How The Coronavirus Is Infecting Americans’ Civil Liberties)
The Times stated:
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“A limited number of tests have been available, and until now, only deaths where a person had tested positive were counted among those killed by the virus in New York.”
“Breaking News: New York City’s coronavirus death toll soared past 10,000 after officials added more than 3,700 people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it. https://t.co/NXpgwwltWi”
“— The New York Times (@nytimes) April 14, 2020”
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The report stated that Democratic New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio decided over the weekend to change the way the city is counting deaths.
“In the heat of battle, our primary focus has been on saving lives,” de Blasio press secretary Freddi Goldstein told the Times.“ As soon as the issue was raised, the mayor immediately moved to release the data.”
The Times report added that health officials have had difficulty counting the exact number of deaths, because of the demographics who have been hit the hardest by the virus.
“Public health officials say that counting the dead from a pandemic disease like Covid-19 presents difficulties because many of those who die are older or suffering from other serious health conditions,” they wrote. “And the full effects of the outbreak on mortality in New York City, and around the country, could take many more months to study and understand.”
New York City is not the only city in the U.S. to include presumptive coronavirus deaths in their total. Several health departments in Ohio announced last week that they were going to begin including people who they “suspected” of having the virus. (RELATED: FLASHBACK: Jan. 21: Fauci Says Coronavirus ‘Not A Major Threat’ To U.S.)
Top White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci dismissed concerns last week over inflated coronavirus death counts as a “conspiracy theory.”
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Dearth this is not a real photo. It has been shopped.
Mr. President Trump is a full grown MAN, not a baby with an adults head.
;D
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NYC Adds Nearly 4,000 People Who Never Tested Positive To Coronavirus Death Tolls >:(
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/ (https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/)
Top White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci dismissed concerns last week over inflated coronavirus death counts as a “conspiracy theory.”
It might not be a conspiracy ,but if the US -for whatever reason - is the only country in the world recording Coronavirus deaths this way , it simply underscores how difficult it is to compare how different countries are doing.
"Of the 63,927 people confirmed coronavirus patients in Italy, 6,077 so far have died. By contrast China has many more cases, 81,496, but 3,274 fatalities.
In very crude terms, this means that around nine per cent of confirmed coronavirus patients have died in Italy, compared to four per cent in China. By this measure Germany, which has so far identified 28,865 cases and 118 deaths, has a fatality rate of just 0.4 per cent.
So why the disparity?
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[Prof Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, added that Italy’s death rate appears high] because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. ""
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/)
http://www.euro.who.int/en/data-and-evidence/evidence-informed-policy-making/european-advisory-committee-on-health-research-eachr/committee-members/professor-walter-ricciardi-italy (http://www.euro.who.int/en/data-and-evidence/evidence-informed-policy-making/european-advisory-committee-on-health-research-eachr/committee-members/professor-walter-ricciardi-italy)
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Trump halts WHO funding :D
Lol, great news.
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Trumps lack of political correctness is refreshing
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NYC Adds Nearly 4,000 People Who Never Tested Positive To Coronavirus Death Tolls >:(
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/ (https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/)
Top White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci dismissed concerns last week over inflated coronavirus death counts as a “conspiracy theory.”
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
Apparently I underestimated how far they would go. They included people who didn’t even test positive.
Brings back memories of this scene:
Bring out your dead (Monty Python)
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Maybe they work FOR the government.
Exactly. They do whatever they are told and/or whatever they are paid to do. They don't work "in" anything they only work "for" whatever is in their best interest. And why not? They still get paid by the people who are no longer getting paid. Cut off their means to make a living and they would be singing a different tune. To them it's nothing that they they save lives while preventing a person's livelihood.
What do you do for a living? How are you able to get an income and keep a roof over your head and food on the table?
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Trump halts WHO funding :D
Wuhan Health Organisation
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/14/intel-officials-probe-whether-virus-escaped-from-a-chinese-lab/23986929/ (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/14/intel-officials-probe-whether-virus-escaped-from-a-chinese-lab/23986929/)
Intel officials probe whether virus escaped from a Chinese lab.
We should watch out for propaganda but WTF are the chinese doing when it comes to Africans and the US Military. Problem is, they can't get either story to stick but something stuck to a chinese lab worker when he went to buy some fish.
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Disgusting
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Two more weeks and I can go back to the gym!
Dont
Ruin
This
For
Me
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Two more weeks and I can go back to the gym!
Dont
Ruin
This
For
Me
This is great news! Does it mean we all get to have no more reason to skip our workouts? I'd really, really like to get back to the gym. Time is probably shorter for me than it is for a lot of other Getbiggers.
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Two more weeks and I can go back to the gym!
Dont
Ruin
This
For
Me
How do you know this? Was there some kind of announcement? Where there be any restrictions like having to wear a mask and get your temperature taken before working out. Some grocery stores here deny entry to anyone not wearing a mask and you are limited to two people per group. What gym do you go to?
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I found a way to become unscrewed from the novel coronavirus today. I reached out to a friend with whom I'd had a falling out a couple of years ago. I've tried to contact him before, but he's a bit of a hermit and doesn't answer his phone, his doorbell or respond to emails. I'd all but given up on calling, emailing and leaving notes. Anyway, he picked up the phone today and we ended up chatting for over an hour. It was like nothing upsetting ever happened to screw up our decades long friendship. When this "personal distancing" is lifted, we will have lunch and another long talk.
A few days ago, another friend who I had not heard from is quite awhile called me just so see if I was okay. I wasn't home when he called so i texted him back. Looks like I'll be having a lot of lunches with friends when all is said and done. This is the time to reach out to others that maybe you've lost contact with or don't talk to really often. What better way to spend our time than reconnecting with old friends.
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I found a way to become unscrewed from the novel coronavirus today. I reached out to a friend with whom I'd had a falling out a couple of years ago. I've tried to contact him before, but he's a bit of a hermit and doesn't answer his phone, his doorbell or respond to emails. I'd all but given up on calling, emailing and leaving notes. Anyway, he picked up the phone today and we ended up chatting for over an hour. It was like nothing upsetting ever happened to screw up our decades long friendship. When this "personal distancing" is lifted, we will have lunch and another long talk.
A few days ago, another friend who I had not heard from is quite awhile called me just so see if I was okay. I wasn't home when he called so i texted him back. Looks like I'll be having a lot of lunches with friends when all is said and done. This is the time to reach out to others that maybe you've lost contact with or don't talk to really often. What better way to spend our time than reconnecting with old friends.
Trolling for cock, ya soggy old flamer.
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Preliminary German Study Shows a COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate of About 0.4 Percent
Preliminary results are out from a COVID-19 case cluster study in one of the regions worst hit by Germany's coronavirus epidemic. They are somewhat reassuring.
One often-heard statistic is the "case fatality rate"—that is, the percentage of people diagnosed with a disease who will die of it. This afternoon that figure stands at 3.5 percent for COVID-19 in the U.S., but this rate is significantly inflated because it does not count asymptomatic cases or undiagnosed people who recover at home. What we really need to know is the infection fatality rate: the percentage of all the people infected who eventually die of the disease. That's what the German study attempts to do.
Over the last two weeks, German virologists tested nearly 80 percent of the population of Gangelt for antibodies that indicate whether they'd been infected by the coronavirus. Around 15 percent had been infected, allowing them to calculate a COVID-19 infection fatality rate of about 0.37 percent. The researchers also concluded that people who recover from the infection are immune to reinfection, at least for a while.
For comparison, the U.S. infection fatality rates for the 1957–58 flu epidemic was around 0.27 percent; for the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic, it was about 2.6 percent. For seasonal flu, the rate typically averages around 0.1 percent. Basically, the German researchers found that the coronavirus kills about four times as many infected people than seasonal flu viruses do.
The German researchers caution that it would be wrong to extrapolate these regional results to the whole country. But they also believe these findings show that lockdowns can begin to be lifted, as long as people maintain high levels of hygiene to keep COVID-19 under control.
https://reason.com/2020/04/09/preliminary-german-study-shows-a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-of-about-0-4-percent/?itm_source=parsely-api#comments
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How do you know this? Was there some kind of announcement? Where there be any restrictions like having to wear a mask and get your temperature taken before working out. Some grocery stores here deny entry to anyone not wearing a mask and you are limited to two people per group. What gym do you go to?
Here in california our shelter in place BULLSHIT expires May1st.
If it gets extended...
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This is great news! Does it mean we all get to have no more reason to skip our workouts? I'd really, really like to get back to the gym. Time is probably shorter for me than it is for a lot of other Getbiggers.
Time is short for us all...
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Time is probably shorter for me than it is for a lot of other Getbiggers.
So when will U finally kill yourself ;D
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Illness and death have always been a part of life.
This madness we now endure has NEVER been a part of life.
This is going to go very bad very fast if this stupidity does not end.
Very wise words - It is Utter Stupidity or More Realistically Utter Control.
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tommywishbone sounds very afraid
boo-hoo this has never been part of life before, it is all new to me !
boo hoo hoo boo
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As I’ve said, the scam is in the testing:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientists/index.html
There has been concern that some of the tests might confuse the coronavirus causing the current pandemic with one of several coronaviruses that cause the common cold.
"Lots of tests confuse the two," Relman said.
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As I’ve said, the scam is in the testing:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientists/index.html
There has been concern that some of the tests might confuse the coronavirus causing the current pandemic with one of several coronaviruses that cause the common cold.
"Lots of tests confuse the two," Relman said.
This is the pregnancy style test kits. They've been around for a weeks. It's just small labs trying to take advantage of people and scam them.
Big pharma haven't got involved yet, but I'm sure they will soon once they have a better test.
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Big pharma needs to get involved because there is no fun screaming scam unless youre screaming big pharma scam!!
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If there is any place where people should know that tests can be manipulated, it’s here on a bodybuilding board.
That said, it’s always good to post a link to the REAL story, no the bait and switch story:
China’s ‘helicopter money’ is blowing up a bubble
https://amp.ft.com/content/4fd8f9c2-c984-11e9-af46-b09e8bfe60c0
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Social distancing until 2022 or vaccine ..ok this should be interesting.
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Social distancing until 2020 or vaccine ..ok this should be interesting.
Did you mean 2021?
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Did you mean 2021?
haha i meant 2022 typo ...
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They are using an inaccurate PCR test.
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I saw the 2022 projection date for social distancing until a vaccine as well.
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There is never going to be a fucking vaccine. When you accept that the scam is in the testing, it will all be clear. The money is in testing.
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Where's "Army of None". I miss his daily sky is falling, shit just got real posts. They brightened my day, haha.
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I saw the 2022 projection date for social distancing until a vaccine as well.
Outrageous...^
the situation is getting more rigged as time goes on....
The testing is highly questionable, so all those figures are getting more and more convoluted,
the death stats, already half rigged (attributing deaths to the virus when people were half gone already), have now gone full rigged at this point, with NY and whoever else, attributing 4000 extra deaths to this chinavirus based on symptoms of SB coughing and fever? With no positive test results.
Give me a break, these are non specific symptoms.... What about all the flu deaths CDC and WHO are always on about, all those are on the "covid" bandwagon now...? False negative flu testing is just as common and messed up as this chinavirus testing clusterfuck.
We've got massive paranoia and confirmation bias occurring in testing, reporting, and enforcement. Meaning all the stats are blown up and overstating the real situation. Even with this rigging, the worldwide situation going by the inflated stats is easing.
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I saw the 2022 projection date for social distancing until a vaccine as well.
No WWE events for you! :D
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There is never going to be a fucking vaccine. When you accept that the scam is in the testing, it will all be clear. The money is in testing.
Why not? If they could come up with a vaccine for HIV and a cure of AIDS, then anything is possible...wait...we're fooked. :(
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There is never going to be a fucking vaccine. When you accept that the scam is in the testing, it will all be clear. The money is in testing.
This.
Thirty-nine years and $500,000,000,000 yes $500 billion and there is no AIDS vaccine.
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tommywishbone sounds very afraid
boo-hoo this has never been part of life before, it is all new to me !
boo hoo hoo boo
:D Not bad little chicken dinner. Not bad.
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At least HIV is not a death sentence anymore
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At least HIV is not a death sentence anymore
Neither is the Coronavirus, never was.
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All my life I tought that there must be a good reason as to why Scientists could develop effective vaccines against some viral diseases while no progress was made for others.
I thought the problem was that I had absolutely not knowledege in medicine or related sciences.
But now, thanks to Getbiggers, I realize that what was really happening was that I was being fooled. Goddamnit.
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"Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans.
Stay inside forever guys.
Do not question the narrative.
It’s the end of the world."
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"Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans.
Stay inside forever guys.
Do not question the narrative.
It’s the end of the world."
(https://i.ibb.co/y0rG2Pw/co.png)
She should at least get her numbers right.
23k deaths out of 330 million people is 0.0069% That's 3 orders of magnitude bigger.
Today the figure is 0.008%
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No WWE events for you! :D
FL governor has ruled WWE is essential business and live events can commence.
Can't take my wrasslin away from me.
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She should at least get her numbers right.
Racist post reported.
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This.
Thirty-nine years and $500,000,000,000 yes $500 billion and there is no AIDS vaccine.
Could be because they are different. One is blood related, the other affects the respiratory system.
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What percentage of people have had permanent damage to their lungs or other organs?
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Social distancing until 2022 or vaccine ..ok this should be interesting.
Curious where people are getting the 2 year development timeline for this vaccine.
"A database was actively compiled to include all vaccine projects in development from 1998 to 2009 in the pre-clinical development phase, clinical trials phase I, II and III up to Market Registration.
The average vaccine, taken from the preclinical phase, requires a development timeline of 10.71 years and has a market entry probability of 6% "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603987/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603987/)
There has been a number of human coronaviruses and no vaccine has yet been developed ,put though clinical trials and approved for production , for any of them.
The seven coronaviruses known to infect humans are:
1) Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV or SARS-CoV-1)
2) SARS-CoV-2 (responsible for the ongoing COVID-19 or Coronavirus disease 2019 pandemic)
3) Middle East respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus (MERS-CoV), also known as camel flu
4) Human coronavirus 229E (HCoV-229E) (responsible for the Common Cold)
5) Human coronavirus OC43 (HCoV-OC43) (responsible for the Common Cold)
6) Human coronavirus NL63 (HCoV-NL63) (more commonly found in outpatients than hospitalized patients, suggesting that it is a common cold virus similar to HCoV-229E and HCoV-OC43, which generally cause less severe symptom)
7) Human coronavirus HKU1 (HCoV-HKU1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus)
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Trolling for cock, ya soggy old flamer.
Sometimes friends are just friends and not anyone you'd have a sexual relationship with. In fact, sex can ruin a friendship. Also, many of my friends don't have cocks.
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I for one am shocked that the world doesnt do more in trying to get a vaccine for the MERS-CoV!
"It is still unclear how the virus is transmitted from camels to humans. The World Health Organization advises avoiding contact with camels and to eat only fully cooked camel meat, pasteurized camel milk, and to avoid drinking camel urine."
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Here in california our shelter in place BULLSHIT expires May1st.
If it gets extended...
India continues to be shut down, which means no pharmaceuticals (HGC and Arimidex) being shipped until the country reopens. Hope I don't run out. Noticed a lot more cars on the road yesterday. I think folks are getting fed up with being shut in. About half the folks at the grocery store are wearing masks. The other half walk around oblivious to social/personal distancing.
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With time and as heard immunity builds Covid19 will end up becoming more and more milder. It will eventually sit between the common cold and flu in terms of severity of symptoms in the minority. The majority will just have the sniffles and/or upset tummy.
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Racist Corona hitting blacks and Hispanics hard but sparing preggo white chicks:
NYC Hospital Finds High COVID-19 Infection Rate, but Few Symptoms, in Pregnant Women – NBC New York
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-hospital-finds-high-covid-19-infection-rate-but-few-symptoms-in-pregnant-women/2372863/
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Preggo chicks probably stayed at home, hard to get infected then
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Preggo chicks probably stayed at home, hard to get infected then
Read the article. They tested positive but displayed no symptoms.
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With time and as heard immunity builds Covid19 will end up becoming more and more milder. It will eventually sit between the common cold and flu in terms of severity of symptoms in the minority. The majority will just have the sniffles and/or upset tummy.
How can it get milder than no symptoms?
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-florida-derby-will-run-gulfstream-park/
Veteran jockey Javier Castellano, who was scheduled to race Saturday, tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday although he did not exhibit any symptoms.
A statement released by Gulfstream Park said, “Our thoughts go out to Javier Castellano today and we are so glad to hear that he is asymptomatic
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FL governor has ruled WWE is essential business and live events can commence.
Can't take my wrasslin away from me.
Not easy to say no to Vince McMahon, especially with his wife running a Trump super PAC.
In other news:
New York City hospitals cancel temporary workers as coronavirus cases stabilize | Article [AMP] | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newyork-staffing-idUSKCN21X00X
Demand for "travel nurses" jumped during March and early April in cities like New Orleans, and especially New York, which saw the nation's largest spike in cases of COVID-19, the deadly respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus.
But New York, which ramped up its hospital bed capacity to around 90,000, has had only about 18,000 patients hospitalized for the past several days.
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How can it get milder than no symptoms?
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-florida-derby-will-run-gulfstream-park/
Veteran jockey Javier Castellano, who was scheduled to race Saturday, tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday although he did not exhibit any symptoms.
A statement released by Gulfstream Park said, “Our thoughts go out to Javier Castellano today and we are so glad to hear that he is asymptomatic
Just because there are no obvious physical symptoms doesn't mean it hasn't had an effect on the body. A lot of asymptomatic people lose lung power. You wouldn't really notice this unless you're an athlete performing close to their max or something like a trumpet player. I was asymptomatic, but when I looked back something did change. I started snoring (not breathing as well at night). I've never snored, not even I was 50lbs heavier. Took nearly 5 weeks for that to go away.
Also go tell the people who have had symptoms that there are no symptoms and then tell me how well that works out for you.
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Preggo chicks probably stayed at home, hard to get infected then
It's likely much more complicated than that, and we won't know the real reason for a while. We do know it affects men more than women.
Somewhat unrelated. A pregnant woman who got exposed to very high, lethal levels of radiation in the 80s at Chernobyl should have had a quick, agonizing death. Instead, she survived and gave birth while experiencing little to no symptoms of radiation poisoning.
The baby died shortly after birth. She was told that her unborn baby had absorbed most if not all of the radiation like a sponge, thus saving her life. She was told too that she could never again have a baby, but she did get pregnant again and have a baby. She and her grown kid are still alive today.
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Just because there are no obvious physical symptoms doesn't mean it hasn't had an effect on the body. A lot of asymptomatic people lose lung power. You wouldn't really notice this unless you're an athlete performing close to their max or something like a trumpet player. I was asymptomatic, but when I looked back something did change. I started snoring (not breathing as well at night). I've never snored, not even I was 50lbs heavier. Took nearly 5 weeks for that to go away.
Also go tell the people who have had symptoms that there are no symptoms and then tell me how well that works out for you.
What are they going to do? Slap me around? They can’t get out bed, primarily because most are either 90 or morbidly obese.
You have no way of even proving that the symptoms they have are a result of Corona as it’s possible to have corona and no symptoms.
Where do you live? I live in New York City. This isn’t an abstract to me. I know what people look like in the so-called hotspots. Most take up two bus seats.
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So how is life in new york city?
does everybody know its a scam etc or are you the only one knowing this
do you stand in a street corner like a sandwich man? CORONA HOAX
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So how is life in new york city?
does everybody know its a scam etc or are you the only one knowing this
do you stand in a street corner like a sandwich man? CORONA HOAX
No, most are jackasses like you who buy into every piece of bullshit the media peddles. The women are the worst. They don’t deserve to be smartened up via a sandwich board or anything else.
Other than decreased traffic, you wouldn’t know anything was different. The media has been painting this area like a war zone. It’s not. I have sympathy for the businesses who had to close their doors, but other than that, it’s been quite enjoyable.
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What are they going to do? Slap me around? They can’t get out bed, primarily because most are either 90 or morbidly obese.
You have no way of even proving that the symptoms they have are a result of Corona as it’s possible to have corona and no symptoms.
Where do you live? I live in New York City. This isn’t an abstract to me. I know what people look like in the so-called hotspots. Most take up two bus seats.
I'm in London so I've seen it too. The exact spot I'm in is full of ultra orthodox Jews who don't do social distancing. At one point they were dropping at 8 times the rate of regular folk.
Aint debating that the majority only have themselves to blame for needing hospitalization, but fuck having every nurse and doctor having to deal with covid patients. The majority of the population will end up getting the virus, just can't be all at the same time.
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I thought those ultra orthodox Jews was suppose to be smart
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I'm in London so I've seen it too. The exact spot I'm in is full of ultra orthodox Jews who don't do social distancing. At one point they were dropping at 8 times the rate of regular folk.
Aint debating that the majority only have themselves to blame for needing hospitalization, but fuck having every nurse and doctor having to deal with covid patients. The majority of the population will end up getting the virus, just can't be all at the same time.
You set up a new straw man on a daily basis. In reality you just can’t admit that you’ve been scammed. You think because you got that big brain that nobody could put anything over on you. They can and they did.
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You set up a new straw man on a daily basis. In reality you just can’t admit that you’ve been scammed. You think because you got that big brain that nobody could put anything over on you. They can and they did.
What exactly have I been scammed by? Nearly 2 months back before anything happened I said there would be an increase in deaths because of a faster rate of spread, but then it would fizzle out. That's exactly what's happening. Meanwhile you're reacting to the situation thinking you're all clued up, but really you're just late to the party and looking for people to blame. What were you doing 4 weeks ago other than thumbing your ass?
There are numerous posts of mine I could bring up.
Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
The Chinese type of quarantine will be impossible in most Western nations, even if they wanted to implement it. Most people just don't live in blocks of flats/apartments. I don't think it's needed either though, they just need to slow the spread and the warming weather will take care of the rest.
I think there is a chance the market will bear for a while after the quarantine. How many businesses can survive a month without customers, without sales, without production? How many will go bankrupt 3 months or even 6 months down the line.. If the recent market has all been a house of cards then it looks like it could be ready to collapse. It's definitely not looking good for a lot of people.
I'll be staying away from banking, but aero is of big interest.
You think too short term. Do you think the current systems in place were working? The things you mention infrastructure, supply chains, medical facilities, taxes had reached a tipping point or become unsustainable. Why don't you try look at the maths there.
If this isn't a man made virus then nature has done us favour. If anything though the virus still isn't lethal enough and systems that need to change probably won't change enough.
You need to take a long term view and stop acting like it's the end of the world. The markets will be fine. It will take a beating, but this isn't a banking crisis where bailouts are needed. It will bounce back far quicker. The extra attention people will now pay to hygiene will mean cases of other bugs and virus will plummet. You would hope countries will learn lessons from this when it come to over reliance on things from China and India. Won't hold my breath on that one though.
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What was Thinlizzy doing a month ago when I had basically called what needed to happen and has subsequently happened?
It's stupid, but necessary. If everyone just carried on as normal we'd be fine, but with people panicking we can't have that.
Covid-19 however is more serious than Swine flu by a factor of 10, so some extra precautionary measures are understandable.
Working from home, self isolating when needed, no crowds etc are all reasonable steps, but cancelling everything when it can be done behind closed doors is just an overreaction.
The warmer weather and extra sunlight is keeping Australia and the southern hemisphere relatively safe from the spread right now.
If remnants of the virus survive the Northern hemisphere summer then we could see the virus re-emerge in the southern hemisphere winter.
The good thing about the panic is that in general people are taking more care with their hygiene now, so we may end up seeing a drop off in the numbers suffering from the common cold and flu.
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Trolling for cock, ya soggy old flamer.
;D ;D ;D
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India continues to be shut down, which means no pharmaceuticals (HGC and Arimidex) being shipped until the country reopens. Hope I don't run out.
I hope you'll run out of those pills ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....................... ........................ ..............
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What was Thinlizzy doing a month ago when I had basically called what needed to happen and has subsequently happened?
Eating pizza? On a serious note though, you don’t need to prove anything to him. Your posts are highly intelligent and well thought out. I for one appreciate your posts.
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India continues to be shut down, which means no pharmaceuticals (HGC and Arimidex) being shipped until the country reopens. Hope I don't run out. Noticed a lot more cars on the road yesterday. I think folks are getting fed up with being shut in. About half the folks at the grocery store are wearing masks. The other half walk around oblivious to social/personal distancing.
Soggy, you'd be better of just giving your immune system a boost and then focus on maintaining it. A functioning immune system is better than any pharma drugs right now.
Highish doses of
Vitamin d3
Iodine and potassium iodide
Vitamin C
Zinc
probiotic
Then just eat healthy, but if you struggle with that stick to lower doses of the above or a very good multi
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Eating pizza? On a serious note though, you don’t need to prove anything to him. Your posts are highly intelligent and well thought out. I for one appreciate your posts.
Thanks, but it would be no fun posting if we couldn't hand out an owning every now and then.
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Thanks, but it would be no fun posting if we couldn't hand out an owning every now and then.
Agreed.
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I for one am taking my vitamin d and zinc and vitamin c!
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How can it get milder than no symptoms?
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-florida-derby-will-run-gulfstream-park/
Veteran jockey Javier Castellano, who was scheduled to race Saturday, tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday although he did not exhibit any symptoms.
A statement released by Gulfstream Park said, “Our thoughts go out to Javier Castellano today and we are so glad to hear that he is asymptomatic
Get better at fact checking.
"Castellano, who had not stepped foot on Gulfstream property since he last rode March 15, was found to be positive for the virus, although he had no symptoms at the time he was tested."
"The first day my throat was bothering me a little bit. Then I had a headache one day. Usually I don't get headaches, and I told my wife. That's the most I had. After that, I didn't have any symptoms. I didn't have any fever. I didn't have anything. I went the 14 days with nothing," Castellano said.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/239562/castellano-given-all-clear-after-covid-19-positive
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I for one am taking my vitamin d and zinc and vitamin c!
Not much else to do other than not give in to stupidity.
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Read the article. They tested positive but displayed no symptoms.
And this one died
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pregnant-nurse-28-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-but-baby-survives-11973820
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Soggy, you'd be better of just giving your immune system a boost then focus on maintaining it. A functioning immune system is better than any pharma drugs right now.
Highish doses of
Vitamin d3
Iodine and potassium iodide
Vitamin C
Zinc
probiotic
Then just eat healthy, but if you struggle with that stick to lower doses of the above or a very good multi
He doesn’t want to have to shop online, for a bra.
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Get better at fact checking.
"Castellano, who had not stepped foot on Gulfstream property since he last rode March 15, was found to be positive for the virus, although he had no symptoms at the time he was tested."
"The first day my throat was bothering me a little bit. Then I had a headache one day. Usually I don't get headaches, and I told my wife. That's the most I had. After that, I didn't have any symptoms. I didn't have any fever. I didn't have anything. I went the 14 days with nothing," Castellano said.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/239562/castellano-given-all-clear-after-covid-19-positive
Oh my God he had a headache. Nobody ever gets a fucking headache. That you’re from London makes sense. English people tend to be nice but you’re hopelessly naive and completely devoid of street smarts. That said, carry-on, “Mate.” Keep carrying the water for the BBC.
And by the way, apparently it’s your English brethren who brought this virus over the New York, according to our great paper the New York Times. You get off the plane and immediately head to the hood to house parties where in fact obese blacks and Hispanics.
European travelers brought coronavirus to New York long before first case confirmed, studies suggest
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/09/new-york-coronavirus-cases-spread-months-came-europe-study/5120590002/
The first patient NYU Langone team studied had no travel history, indicating they were infected by someone in the community. When Heguy and Maurano compared the genetic data of the virus from that patient to other's in an international database, it was clear that strain came from England.
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Here is the truth.
Want to know why they are falsely inflating the death toll numbers for Chinese Wuhan virus?
There are two reasons:
1. To try and hurt President Trump. The more deaths that can be pinned on Chinese Wuhan virus, the more they think it will hurt him.
2. Money. If a Medicare patient is diagnosed with non-Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, then the hospital receives a one-time Medicare lump-sum payment of $4600. However, if that Medicare patient is diagnosed with Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, the Medicare coverage is a one-time payment of $13,000. And if the hospital uses a ventilator on the Chinese Wuhan virus patient, the one-time payment is $39,000.
This information comes from Minnesota State Senator Dr. Scott Jensen.
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Oh my God he had a headache. Nobody ever gets a fucking headache. That you’re from London makes sense. English people tend to be nice but you’re hopelessly naive and completely devoid of street smarts. That said, carry-on, “Mate.” Keep carrying the water for the BBC.
And by the way, apparently it’s your English brethren who brought this virus over the New York, according to our great paper the New York Times. You get off the plane and immediately head to the hood to house parties.
European travelers brought coronavirus to New York long before first case confirmed, studies suggest
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/09/new-york-coronavirus-cases-spread-months-came-europe-study/5120590002/
The first patient NYU Langone team studied had no travel history, indicating they were infected by someone in the community. When Heguy and Maurano compared the genetic data of the virus from that patient to other's in an international database, it was clear that strain came from England.
No street smarts, yet I pretty much had worked out what the course of the virus would be and what actions were needed over a month ago.
Nice attempt at deflection though. Trying to rile me up cos I'm a Brit cos you got nothing else LMAO.
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Here is the truth.
Want to know why they are falsely inflating the death toll numbers for Chinese Wuhan virus?
There are two reasons:
1. To try and hurt President Trump. The more deaths that can be pinned on Chinese Wuhan virus, the more they think it will hurt him.
2. Money. If a Medicare patient is diagnosed with non-Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, then the hospital receives a one-time Medicare lump-sum payment of $4600. However, if that Medicare patient is diagnosed with Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, the Medicare coverage is a one-time payment of $13,000. And if the hospital uses a ventilator on the Chinese Wuhan virus patient, the one-time payment is $39,000.
This information comes from Minnesota State Senator Dr. Scott Jensen.
Solid post.
If you dig a little deeper, there’s always a money angle.
The guys here who are still buying into this bullshit are hopelessly naïve liberal tools who wanna believe that the government is acting in their best interest.
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No street smarts, yet I pretty much had worked out what the course of the virus would be and what actions were needed over a month ago.
Nice attempt at deflection though. Trying to rile me up cos I'm a Brit cos you got nothing else LMAO.
Keep jerking yourself off, Mate. That’s all your good for.
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
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Keep jerking yourself off, Mate. That’s all your good for.
I will. Thanks for posting the article
"Two separate teams of scientists studying the genetics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the region came to similar conclusions: People were spreading the virus in New York as early as late January, before more widespread testing began, and it came mostly from Europe, not Asia."
The Virus was likely around in Jan/Feb in a lot of places. Itt just wasn't yet diagnosed.
As I have already said a few times on here, don't be surprised if by now 15 to 20% of the Western world have already had the virus. Some places will even be much higher.
I'll be sure to quote this for your benefit once the antibody data starts coming in.
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Here is the truth.
Want to know why they are falsely inflating the death toll numbers for Chinese Wuhan virus?
There are two reasons:
1. To try and hurt President Trump. The more deaths that can be pinned on Chinese Wuhan virus, the more they think it will hurt him.
2. Money. If a Medicare patient is diagnosed with non-Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, then the hospital receives a one-time Medicare lump-sum payment of $4600. However, if that Medicare patient is diagnosed with Chinese Wuhan virus pneumonia, the Medicare coverage is a one-time payment of $13,000. And if the hospital uses a ventilator on the Chinese Wuhan virus patient, the one-time payment is $39,000.
This information comes from Minnesota State Senator Dr. Scott Jensen.
1. But how is the media inflating the numbers? If anything, it would have to be Trump's own government the ones doing it.
I guess the media could play with the numbers here and there, but increasing the number of deaths by let's say 20k seems unlikely. They would get caught pretty quickly.
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Simple.
In my opinion, CDC is deep state/swamp.
The director was praising WHO and disagreeing with Trump's order to stop funding.
With everything we now know about what the WHO and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus were doing, how can anyone take that stand, let alone the guy running the CDC?
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Leading the Corona battle in Pennsylvania is Secretary of Health Rachel Levine.
(https://i.postimg.cc/CK8y0sXW/EVu3x6-NXk-AEzwr-P-1.jpg)
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NYS shut down till 5/15
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/new-york-and-other-east-coast-states-extend-shutdown-of-nonessential-businesses-to-may-15-gov-cuomo-says.html
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NYS shut down till 5/15
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/new-york-and-other-east-coast-states-extend-shutdown-of-nonessential-businesses-to-may-15-gov-cuomo-says.html
Both he and DeBlasio were very slow to act and didn’t take the virus seriously until somebody got in their year. He’ll know when to open up when he gets his marching orders. He might talk like a tough guy but he’s got to bend over if he wants to get DC money.
CNBC: New York and other East Coast states extend shutdown to May 15
“So, one month, we’ll continue the close-down policies. What happens after then? I don’t know,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said
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Both he and DeBlasio were very slow to act and didn’t take the virus seriously until somebody got in their year. He’ll know when to open up when he gets his marching orders. He might talk like a tough guy but he’s got to bend over if he wants to get DC money.
CNBC: New York and other East Coast states extend shutdown to May 15
“So, one month, we’ll continue the close-down policies. What happens after then? I don’t know,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said
Hopefully they will keep NY and the Northeast shut down for another couple years, haha. I lived in the state of NY many years until I got smart and left, business and all. One of the most poorly run states out there. The taxes are outrageous because they go to support the unions primarily. Hopefully the economic collapse of NY will screw the unions lol
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Soggy, you'd be better of just giving your immune system a boost and then focus on maintaining it. A functioning immune system is better than any pharma drugs right now.
Highish doses of
Vitamin d3
Iodine and potassium iodide
Vitamin C
Zinc
probiotic
Then just eat healthy, but if you struggle with that stick to lower doses of the above or a very good multi
gee- where would we be without Flexadoc dispenses his high level info on here, haha.
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Hopefully they will keep NY and the Northeast shut down for another couple years, haha. I lived in the state of NY many years until I got smart and left, business and all. One of the most poorly run states out there. The taxes are outrageous because they go to support the unions primarily. Hopefully the economic collapse of NY will screw the unions lol
It’s a great state except for the government which is an abomination.
I would like to be able to read trumps mind on this. While he officially moved to Florida, his business headquarters and most of his real estate holdings are still in New York City. No way he would be setting fire to his own house.
You might be right about the Unions. I’m sure he hates them having to deal with them for many years.
Hopefully, it’s also a plan to get Republican leadership here.
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What makes NY great?
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What makes NY great?
Beaches, Mountains, Lakes, Rivers and one of the world’s great cities.
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Soggy, you'd be better of just giving your immune system a boost and then focus on maintaining it. A functioning immune system is better than any pharma drugs right now.
Highish doses of
Vitamin d3
Iodine and potassium iodide
Vitamin C
Zinc
probiotic
Then just eat healthy, but if you struggle with that stick to lower doses of the above or a very good multi
Thanks for the advice. Without listing them, I can tell you that I take an excellent array of supplements which includes those you've mentioned and many more. You do realize that HGC and Arimidex have a very specific purpose having to do maintaining hormone balance for people on TRT? I've always had a healthy diet. This may explain why year after year my annual physicals show me to be in close to perfect health and why I almost never get sick.
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Beaches, Mountains, Lakes, Rivers and one of the world’s great cities.
"If the United States is The Roman Empire, then New York city is Rome." :D
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He doesn’t want to have to shop online, for a bra.
You got that right. Although, with this whole gender neutal thing there are bras for men, who I suspect would only wear them as a joke or in secret if it's their fetish.
(https://imgix.bustle.com/mic/0v0cpu8jaydw25uqfqedmle2fhasos7gpgxvs6fvdputaknzf0hfxmvveltc3xic.jpg?w=1020&h=576&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress&cs=srgb&q=70&dpr=2)
cue Pellius. ;D
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You got that right. Although, with this whole gender neutal thing there are bras for men, who I suspect would only wear them as a joke or in secret if it's their fetish.
(https://imgix.bustle.com/mic/0v0cpu8jaydw25uqfqedmle2fhasos7gpgxvs6fvdputaknzf0hfxmvveltc3xic.jpg?w=1020&h=576&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress&cs=srgb&q=70&dpr=2)
cue Pellius. ;D
Got it. Jeeze, you just can't help yourself. Always jump at the chance to gay up a thread at the slightest provocation. Even just the mention of underwear gets you phag genes stirring and playing it off as a joke but mentioning "fetish". ::)
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Got it. Jeeze, you just can't help yourself. Always jump at the chance to gay up a thread at the slightest provocation. Even just the mention of underwear gets you phag genes stirring and playing it off as a joke but mentioning "fetish". ::)
Your shovel is even bigger than I thought. The hole you are digging yourself into is getting pretty deep.
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Your shovel is even bigger than I thought. The hole you are digging yourself into is getting pretty deep.
What hole? Just making things up to try to get out of your hole and trying to get your tongue and cock into another.
In my next life, I want to be oversexed....like the proverbial teenager who gets hard all the time for no reason. It would be a nice change. Also along with being oversexed, I want a huge penis and a heavy sack but not so big that folks don't know what to do with it or that it scares them.
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Your shovel is even bigger than I thought. The hole you are digging yourself into is getting pretty deep.
Never ending Blah-Blah-Blah................... , go to Hawaii & try to smash him ;D
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Never ending Blah-Blah-Blah................... , go to Hawaii & try to smash him ;D
Please. We are trying to keep haoles like him out. We have enough diseased foreigners trying to take advantage of the low fares.
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People in California are scared shitless. The fear is palpable.
The following dynamics will never recover from this insanity.
-gyms
-air travel
-sporting events
-concerts
-bars and restaurants
-casinos
People are scared beyond belief and fear is our very a strongest emotion.
Cowards. I hate people.
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How in the FCK is this considered a "pandemic"?
"A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has infected more than 2 million people worldwide.
More than 136,000 people across the globe have died from COVID-19,"
Close the world down for at least 2-3 months because 136k people died since November and 1/2 of those were just "use your best judgement if they died from COVID without testing them
You realize 145k people die every day normally?
WOW
When do the riots start?
WTF
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Looks like these lockdowns are doing more harm than good.
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How in the FCK is this considered a "pandemic"?
"A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has infected more than 2 million people worldwide.
More than 136,000 people across the globe have died from COVID-19,"
Close the world down for at least 2-3 months because 136k people died since November and 1/2 of those were just "use your best judgement if they died from COVID without testing them
You realize 145k people die every day normally?
WOW
When do the riots start?
WTF
The numbers are only that low as we have done a first on history locking down half the planet.The crux of it is really very simple, the main worry is hospitals get overloaded, then nobody can get treatment for anything, riots start, widespread panic that makes current look like childsplay, then everything else falls like dominos.The lockdown is so hospitals do not get overloaded.
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Still waiting for “this shit to get real”. Oh wait- it never really was the black plague some nancy boys on this site were fantasizing it was. Darn, I’m so disappointed. Think I’ll go shopping Monday to all the stores opening in South Carolina. I’ll try not to trip over any bodies.
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People in California are scared shitless.
Cowards. I hate people.
This
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People in California are scared shitless. The fear is palpable.
The following dynamics will never recover from this insanity.
-gyms
-air travel
-sporting events
-concerts
-bars and restaurants
-casinos
People are scared beyond belief and fear is our very a strongest emotion.
Cowards. I hate people.
WRONG.
Everything in that list is generally used by younger people. Except for maybe casinos. Every casino I go in has a variety of age ranges all the time.
Younger people are not afraid. Once the world is re opened they are going to socialize with a vengeance.
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Lots of nancyboys in this thread being upset about the lockdowns.
Whats the matter, can't stand a little time in isolation?
You wouldnt last 5 minutes in prison
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Lots of nancyboys in this thread being upset about the lockdowns.
Whats the matter, can't stand a little time in isolation?
You wouldnt last 5 minutes in prison
Oh shove it you pussy, lol. For such a tough guy you hide behind gimmick after gimmick. So eat it, haha.
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I dont understand how we elected a governor THIS STUPID.
California reported 87 new deaths from the coronavirus outbreak, one of the highest daily fatality counts so far, as the governor says that the state may not be close to loosening measures imposed to curb the spread.
The total death toll was 1,072, Governor Gavin Newsom said in his daily briefing. The number of cases climbed 5.3%, while patients in intensive care fell by a “modest” 0.1%, he said.
“We have certainly flattened the curve,” Newsom said. “For those that think we’re out of the woods, those who think we’ve turned the page, those who think we can go back to the way things used to be, I caution you on the basis of that 87 number.”
California was the first U.S. state to impose stay-home orders amid the outbreak, and cities such as Los Angeles have recently extended those measures by two weeks to May 15.
Newsom Names A-List Panel to Revive, Remake California Economy
L.A. County, the state’s biggest by population, reported a record 81 deaths as it added 642 new cases, county officials said, calling it “a sad milestone.”
For more articles like this, please visit us at bloomberg.com
©2020 Bloomberg L.P..
EIGHTY SEVEN DEATHS IN A DAY
OH MY FUCKING GOD
N[[OOOO NOOOOO LETS NEVER REOPEN THE STATE.
WHAT PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION IS THAT? .0000000000001%?????
THIS IS A BAD DREAM IT HAS TO BE
FUCK NEWSOME
I NEED TO EXPRESS MY ANGER WHERE ARE THE RALLIES AND WHEN
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What hole? Just making things up to try to get out of your hole and trying to get your tongue and cock into another.
I stand up for decency and for leaving people alone.
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I dont understand how we elected a governor THIS STUPID.
California reported 87 new deaths from the coronavirus outbreak, one of the highest daily fatality counts so far, as the governor says that the state may not be close to loosening measures imposed to curb the spread.
The total death toll was 1,072, Governor Gavin Newsom said in his daily briefing. The number of cases climbed 5.3%, while patients in intensive care fell by a “modest” 0.1%, he said.
“We have certainly flattened the curve,” Newsom said. “For those that think we’re out of the woods, those who think we’ve turned the page, those who think we can go back to the way things used to be, I caution you on the basis of that 87 number.”
California was the first U.S. state to impose stay-home orders amid the outbreak, and cities such as Los Angeles have recently extended those measures by two weeks to May 15.
Newsom Names A-List Panel to Revive, Remake California Economy
L.A. County, the state’s biggest by population, reported a record 81 deaths as it added 642 new cases, county officials said, calling it “a sad milestone.”
For more articles like this, please visit us at bloomberg.com
©2020 Bloomberg L.P..
EIGHTY SEVEN DEATHS IN A DAY
OH MY FUCKING GOD
N[[OOOO NOOOOO LETS NEVER REOPEN THE STATE.
WHAT PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION IS THAT? .0000000000001%?????
THIS IS A BAD DREAM IT HAS TO BE
FUCK NEWSOME
I NEED TO EXPRESS MY ANGER WHERE ARE THE RALLIES AND WHEN
Rallies are taking place. Newport Beach of all places had a rally yesterday. Fuck Newscum.
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How in the FCK is this considered a "pandemic"?
"A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has infected more than 2 million people worldwide.
More than 136,000 people across the globe have died from COVID-19,"
Close the world down for at least 2-3 months because 136k people died since November and 1/2 of those were just "use your best judgement if they died from COVID without testing them
You realize 145k people die every day normally?
WOW
When do the riots start?
WTF
Well summed up - Really puts into perspective.
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Medicine and the media finally catching up. Gebiggers had already long established that the Corona was engineered to target fatties. Somewhere along the way, the virus mutated, turned racist and started targeting blacks too.
Obesity Linked to Severe Coronavirus Disease, Especially for Younger Patients
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Obesity may be one of the most important predictors of severe coronavirus illness, new studies say. It is an alarming finding for the United States, which has one of the highest obesity rates in the world.
Although people with obesity frequently have other medical problems, the new studies point to the condition in and of itself as the most significant risk factor, after only older age, for being hospitalized with COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus. Young adults with obesity appear to be at particular risk, studies show.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obesity-linked-severe-coronavirus-disease-190941212.html
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crenshaw gave a good account of himself.
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Rallies are taking place. Newport Beach of all places had a rally yesterday. Fuck Newscum.
Newport Beach is a conservative stronghold isn't it?
It's like Western NY vs. NYC.
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Medicine and the media finally catching up. Gebiggers had already long established that the Corona was engineered to target fatties. Somewhere along the way, the virus mutated, turned racist and started targeting blacks too.
Obesity may be one of the most important predictors of severe coronavirus illness, new studies say. It is an alarming finding for the United States, which has one of the highest obesity rates in the world.
Although people with obesity frequently have other medical problems, the new studies point to the condition in and of itself as the most significant risk factor, after only older age, for being hospitalized with COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus. Young adults with obesity appear to be at particular risk, studies show.
They are late to a lot of shit. I've known about the potential of blood transfusions for a while now as a treatment and only now are they trailing it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52348368
Also the whole black/minority thing isn't that hard to explain. They are usually fatter, eat more processed foods, smoke more/do more drugs, have more cases of diabetes and heart disease, do more public facing jobs (how many blacks have jobs they can do from home right now?) and they can't produce vitamin d as easily which is important for a healthy immune system.
Obesity results in fat necks and guts so their breathing is already comprised by smaller airways and less room for the lungs to expand. Add a bad case of covid to that and they are starting recovery with a handicap.
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They are late to a lot of shit. I've known about the potential of blood transfusions for a while now as a treatment and only now are they trailing it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52348368
Also the whole black/minority thing isn't that hard to explain. They are usually fatter, eat more processed foods, smoke more/do more drugs, have more cases of diabetes and heart disease, do more public facing jobs (how many blacks have jobs they can do from home right now?) and they can't produce vitamin d as easily which is important for a healthy immune system.
Obesity results in fat necks and guts so their breathing is already comprised by smaller airways and less room for the lungs to expand. Add a bad case of covid to that and they are starting recovery with a handicap.
Something I didn't even think was possible until I read about it somewhere is that you can lose a lung, a whole lung, from years of untreated acid reflux. My understanding is that people who eat a lot of carbs, processed foods, and/or are overweight suffer from chronic acid reflux and many do nothing about it for years. Little do they know one or both of their lungs are badly damaged as a result. I imagine these people have little chance of surviving Corona.
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Sweden claims coronavirus success after keeping country open, says herd immunity imminent
NY Daily News ^ | APR 19, 2020 | By KATE FELDMAN
Criticized for refusing to lock down, Sweden’s top health official says herd immunity is inevitable and took credit for the slowing of coronavirus numbers.
“According to our modelers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection,” Anders Tegnell, who led the charge to keep Sweden open, told local media. “Our models point to some time in May.”
Despite social distancing guidelines from the World Health Organization, Sweden has resisted lockdowns, instead keeping open schools, gyms, bars and restaurants and relying on citizens to caution themselves.
Tegnell’s comments echo thoughts about herd immunity, in which most of the population is infected with the assumption that those who survive will not be infected again, floated by British Prime Minister Boris Johnson. But Johnson eventually folded to the advice of health officials and shut down the United Kingdom.
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
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Nothing wrong with Herd Immunity but you need a Vaccine in place. It's like the 1st couple of chapters in Immunology. People keep twisting shit.
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Something I didn't even think was possible until I read about it somewhere is that you can lose a lung, a whole lung, from years of untreated acid reflux. My understanding is that people who eat a lot of carbs, processed foods, and/or are overweight suffer from chronic acid reflux and many do nothing about it for years. Little do they know one or both of their lungs are badly damaged as a result. I imagine these people have little chance of surviving Corona.
People with acid reflux are doubly screwed because if they take proton pump inhibitors to manage it then they are killing off the gut microbiome which is what helps the bodies immune response. PPIs basically cause immune suppression.
It's scary how this virus is causing all these ducks to line up.
Modern farming and medication enables poor diets and lifestyles and it meant people were happy to live in ignorance. A virus comes along targeting these people and now these people are begging to be saved by the very people who enabled them.
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Nothing wrong with Herd Immunity but you need a Vaccine in place. It's like the 1st couple of chapters in Immunology. People keep twisting shit.
Even if herd immunity only lasts for a year or 2 the bodys immune system does have a memory system so potentially it could recognise the virus and deal with it much faster if immunity was lost.
It will still spread, but for those who had moderate to severe symptoms it should be much milder. Only the immunocompromised would need vaccinating.
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Even if herd immunity only lasts for a year or 2 the bodys immune system does have a memory system so potentially it could recognise the virus and deal with it much faster if immunity was lost.
It will still spread, but for those who had moderate to severe symptoms it should be much milder. Only the immunocompromised would need vaccinating.
Herd immunity will last. Sweden is right, everyone else has made a pathetic hysterical mistake.
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Herd immunity will last. Sweden is right, everyone else has made a pathetic hysterical mistake.
Most places just weren't equipped to go with the herd immunity strategy or have too dense or too large a population to do it in one go.
Compare Sweden and its population of 10 million with London which has the same population. Swedish deaths are at 1600 and London is at 4000.
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How DARE they!!
Don't they know people could die?
https://cdapress.com/news/2020/apr/18/rathdrum-woman-cited-for-violating-stay-home-5/
Good thing all the California neighbors who moved there called the Nazi,, er I mean police to inform and due their civic duty to the cause
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The emperor has no clothes
for MAGA morons, he is a link to help explain the complicated phrase above
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20emporer%20has%20no%20clothes
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(this turd is really fat, orange and ugly)
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's misdirection on virus testing, deaths
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is falsely assigning blame to governors and the Obama administration for shortages in coronavirus testing.
For much of the week, he was pretender to a throne that didn't exist as he claimed king-like powers over the pandemic response and Congress. But by the weekend, he was again saying governors called the shots and they are the ones to blame — not the federal government, not him — for any testing problems.
He says governors aren’t using all the testing capacity that the federal government has created. It's not true.
Meanwhile, Trump denied praising China’s openness in the pandemic, when he’s on record doing so repeatedly, and declared victory over what he calls relatively low death rates in the U.S. But that’s too soon to tell.
A look at his recent rhetoric and its relationship with reality.
TESTING
TRUMP, on governors urging wider availability of virus tests: “They don’t want to use all of the capacity that we’ve created. We have tremendous capacity. ...They know that. The governors know that. The Democrat governors know that; they’re the ones that are complaining.” — news briefing Saturday.
THE FACTS: Trump’s assertion that governors are not using already available testing capacity is contradicted by one of his top health advisers. He’s also wrong that Democrats are the only ones expressing concerns about the adequacy of COVID-19 testing; several Republican governors also point to problems.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease expert, told The Associated Press that the U.S. does not yet have the critical testing and tracing procedures needed to begin reopening the nation’s economy.
“We have to have something in place that is efficient and that we can rely on, and we’re not there yet,” Fauci, a member of the White House’s coronavirus task force, said Tuesday.
Among Fauci’s top concerns: that there will be new outbreaks in locations where social distancing has eased, and that public health officials don’t yet have the capabilities to rapidly test for the virus, isolate any new cases and track down everyone that an infected person came into contact with.
His concerns are echoed by several Republicans.
Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon, a Republican, on Friday said his state’s testing capacity was inadequate and urged a larger role for the federal government.
He said states have been competing with each other to try to get more testing supplies, a process he described as “a slog.”
“It’s a perilous set of circumstances trying to figure out how to make this work, and until we’ve got the testing up to speed — which has got to be part of the federal government stepping in and helping — we’re just not going to be there.”
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, plans to keep applying pressure on the Food and Drug Administration to address the rationing of a key component that is necessary to produce tests. He said full testing capacity can’t be reached unless it is more widely distributed.
Republican Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan on Sunday called the lack of virus testing “probably the No. 1 problem in America, and has been from the beginning of this crisis.”
“And I can tell you, I talk to governors on both sides of the aisle nearly every single day,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “The administration, I think, is trying to ramp up testing, and trying — they are doing some things with respect to private labs. But to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing, and they should just get to work on testing, somehow we aren’t doing our job, is just absolutely false. ”
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TRUMP: “Some partisan voices are attempting to politicize the issue of testing, which they shouldn’t be doing, because I inherited broken junk.” — news briefing Saturday.
TRUMP: “We inherited a broken, terrible system.” — news briefing Saturday.
THE FACTS: His repeated insistence that the Obama administration is to blame for initial delays in testing is wrong. The novel coronavirus did not exist until late last year, so there was no test to inherit.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instead struggled to develop its own test for the coronavirus in January, later discovering problems in its kits sent to state and county public health labs in early February.
It took the CDC more than two weeks to come up with a fix to the test kits, leading to delays in diagnoses through February, a critical month when the virus took root in the U.S. Not until Feb. 29 did the FDA decide to allow labs to develop and use their own coronavirus diagnostic tests before the agency reviews them, speeding up the supply. Previously, the FDA had only authorized use of a government test developed by the CDC.
Meantime the U.S. bypassed a test that the World Health Organization quickly made available internationally. Trump has said that test was flawed; it wasn’t.
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DEATH RATES
TRUMP: “The United States has produced dramatically better health outcomes than any other country. ... On a per capita basis, our mortality rate is far lower than other nations of Western Europe, with the lone exception of possibly Germany. ... You hear we have more death. But we’re a much bigger country than any of those countries by far.“ — news briefing Saturday.
THE FACTS: His suggestion that the U.S. response to the coronavirus has been better than many other countries’ because its mortality rate is “far lower” is unsupported and misleading.
In each country, for instance, the age and overall health of the population are important factors. Many countries in western Europe such as Italy have an older population than the U.S., and seniors are at an especially high risk of death from COVID-19.
Beyond age, underlying health conditions increase risk, too. Indeed, an AP analysis of available state and local data found nearly one-third of U.S. deaths are among African Americans, with black people representing about 14% of the population in the areas covered in the analysis. Health conditions such as obesity, diabetes and asthma are more common in the black community.
But more broadly, it’s too early to know the real death rate from COVID-19 in any country. Look at a count kept by Johns Hopkins University, and you can divide the number of recorded deaths with the number of reported cases. The math nevertheless provides a completely unreliable measurement of death rates, and the Johns Hopkins tally is not intended to be that.
First, the count changes every day as new infections and deaths are recorded.
More important, every country is testing differently. Knowing the real denominator, the true number of people who become infected, is key to determining what portion of them die. Some countries, the U.S. among them, have had trouble making enough tests available. When there’s a shortage of tests, the sickest get tested first. Even with a good supply of tests, someone who’s otherwise healthy and has mild symptoms may not be tested and thus go uncounted.
The only way to tell how many went uncounted early on is to do a completely different kind of testing — blood tests of the population to find how many people bear immune system antibodies to the virus, something only now starting in selected places.
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TRUMP: “China has just announced a doubling in the number of their deaths from the Invisible Enemy. It is far higher than that and far higher than the U.S., not even close!” — tweet Friday.
THE FACTS: It’s the reverse, more than 4,600 recorded deaths in China compared with more than 36,000 in the United States. And the notion that China can overtake the U.S. in a final accounting of the dead is a long shot right now.
Even with the upward revision Friday of Chinese deaths — which was not a doubling, as Trump claimed — the recorded U.S. death toll is about seven times higher than China’s, according to the count by Johns Hopkins University as of Friday night. And China has more than four times more people.
The full picture is not known in either country. Trump routinely manipulates information to make the U.S response to the coronavirus pandemic look better than it is. China’s secretive leadership obscured the severity of the crisis for crucial weeks, and its numbers remain in question.
As well, deaths from the virus have not been fully reported in either country because the pandemic is still raging in the U.S. and still being accounted for in China.
But for China to surpass the U.S. in this count, it would have to be underreporting deaths by the tens of thousands, and deaths in the U.S. would have to nosedive from the current trend and projections.
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CHINA vs. US
TRUMP: “China was supposed to catch us. ... For years, I’ve heard, ‘By 2019, China will catch us.’ There’s only one problem: Trump got elected in 2016. That was a big difference. And we were going leaps and bounds above China.” — news briefing Saturday.
THE FACTS: No matter who got elected in 2016 — Trump or Democrat Hillary Clinton — China’s economy could not have caught up to America’s.
Even if the U.S. economy had not grown at all since 2016, China’s gross domestic product — the broadest measure of economic output — would have had to have surged by 79% in three years to pull even with America’s. That comes to growth of more than 21% a year — something even China’s super-charged economy has never approached.
Before the coronavirus outbreak, the Chinese economy had been slowly narrowing the gap because every year it grows much faster than America’s. In 2019, for example, the International Monetary Fund predicted Chinese GDP to increase 6.2%, more than double the 2.6% growth it expects for the United States. The global pandemic isn’t expected to change that trend line: last week, the IMF said the U.S economy will fall 5.9% this year and China’s will manage to grow 1.2%.
That means China has got a long way to go to surpass the U.S., whether Trump is president or not.
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EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY
TRUMP: “Some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect ... It is the decision of the President.” — tweets on April 13.
TRUMP, asked about his level of authority to reopen the country: “I have the ultimate authority.... They can’t do anything without the approval of the president of the United States.” — news briefing on April 13.
THE FACTS: The federal government did not close down the country and won’t be reopening it. Restrictions on public gatherings, workplaces, mobility, store operations, schools and more were ordered by states and communities, not Washington. The federal government has imposed border controls; otherwise its social distancing actions are mostly recommendations, not mandates.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency, knocking down a series of false rumors about the coronavirus, makes clear that “states and cities are responsible for announcing curfews, shelters in place, or other restrictions and safety measures.”
Trump has argued that states and communities imposed restrictions because he let them and that he can overrule their decisions. Constitutional experts disagree.
“The president can un-declare his national emergency declarations, which freed up federal funds and provided assistance to state and local governments,” said Walter Dellinger, a former acting U.S. solicitor general. “But he has no federal statutory or constitutional power to override steps taken by governors and mayors under state law. He has never understood that he lacks a general power to rule by decree.”
The federal government does have broad constitutional authority over states on things that cross state lines and involve the entire nation, such as regulating interstate commerce and immigration, levying taxes or declaring war. What Trump is proposing, however, is different. He is wading into states’ sharply defined powers to protect public health.
Asked what authority he had to make such an assertion of presidential power, Trump promised earlier in the week that he would provide a legal memorandum supporting his view. By Thursday, he hadn't and he told governors that day they could reopen states when they deem appropriate.
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TRUMP: “If the House will not agree to that adjournment, I will exercise my constitutional authority to adjourn both chambers of Congress.” — news briefing Wednesday.
THE FACTS: His power to adjourn Congress is highly questionable.
The Constitution does not spell out a unilateral power for the president to adjourn Congress. It states only that he can decide on adjournment if there is a dispute over that matter between the House and Senate. Such a disagreement does not exist, nor is it likely to arise.
Constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley said on Twitter the Constitution gives a president authority in “extraordinary occasions” to convene or adjourn Congress. But, he said, “This power has never been used and should not be used now.”
Trump is unhappy that Congress has refused to fully adjourn during most breaks. Because Congress is still formally in session, Trump can't circumvent Congress and unilaterally put his nominees for various positions to work in the jobs he wants them to have. Lawmakers also used the tactic of holding off on adjournment to thwart some of President Barack Obama’s nominees.
Doug Andres, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said McConnell will find ways to confirm nominees essential to the pandemic response but Senate rules will require that the Democratic leader, Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, give consent to move forward on them.
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WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
TRUMP, explaining in part why he is freezing money to the World Health Organization: “The WHO willingly took China’s assurances to face value, and they took it just at face value and defended the actions of the Chinese government, even praising China for its so-called transparency. I don’t think so.” — news briefing Tuesday.
TRUMP, asked about his past praise of China: “I don’t talk about China’s transparency.” — news briefing Tuesday.
THE FACTS: He did praise China's transparency as well as its overall performance in the pandemic.
While it's true that WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus complimented China's response, Trump early on similarly took China's assurances at face value.
In a CNBC interview on Jan. 22, Trump was asked if he trusted information from China about the coronavirus. "I do,” Trump said. “I have a great relationship with President Xi.”
Two days later, he was even more effusive. “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” he tweeted. "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. ...I want to thank President Xi!"
Trump kept up the compliments when asked several times in February about whether data from China can be trusted,. He called Xi “extremely capable” and said he's “doing a very good job with a very, very tough situation.”
Such praise faded as the pandemic hit hard in the U.S. and the federal response stumbled. The time was ripe for scapegoats. It also become clearer that China had not been forthcoming at the start.
On March 21, Trump said of his earlier remarks: “China was transparent at that time, but when we saw what happened, they could have been transparent much earlier than they were." In any event, his denial that he ever praised China's openness is false.
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TRUTH.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/inconsistent-ihme-model-changes-again-to-project-8-000-fewer-coronavirus-deaths-than-previous-week (https://www.theblaze.com/news/inconsistent-ihme-model-changes-again-to-project-8-000-fewer-coronavirus-deaths-than-previous-week)
Erratic IHME model changes again to project 8,000 fewer coronavirus deaths than previous week.
The coronavirus projection model from the University of Washington's Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation again revised the number of expected COVID-19 deaths to project 8,000 fewer overall U.S. deaths than it did the previous week.
The IHME model is possibly the most prominent of all available projection models, and likely has influence in state and federal government decisions about when to relax the social distancing policies, which have been deemed necessary to slow the spread of the virus, but that have had disastrous economic impact nationwide.
The new projection: On Friday, the IHME model projected a total of 60,308 U.S. COVID-19 deaths, with an estimate range of 34,063 to 140,381. On April 13, it projected 68,841 deaths and a range of 30,188 to 175,965.
The IHME model produced the projections that led President Donald Trump and the White House coronavirus response task force to announce that even if Americans did everything right, as many as 240,000 people would die of the coronavirus by the end of the summer.
The model has also overestimated the number of hospitalizations and the number of needed ventilators, and those projections have had political implications and also been economically damaging for health care providers that shut down all nonessential medical procedures to prepare for COVID-19 surges that, in some areas, never arrived.
What's the problem? The IHME model's method of producing projections has led to inaccuracy and volatility, both of which make it unhelpful for forming public health policy, according to STAT News. The model looks at the progression of the virus in other countries with earlier outbreaks, tries to determine where the U.S. fits on that bell curve progression, and produces projections from there.
The model assumes that the U.S. curve will mimic the curve in other countries, without accounting for all the variables such as differences in social distancing policy and different timing for implementing those policies. Because it is a statistical model that started with very little U.S. data, it can shift significantly every time new U.S. data is added to the model.
The IHME model has been inaccurate even when projecting the next day, STAT News reported, with next-day deaths falling outside the projected range 70% of the time.
"That the IHME model keeps changing is evidence of its lack of reliability as a predictive tool," said epidemiologist Ruth Etzioni of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center, according to STAT News. Etzioni has served on a search committee for IHME. "That it is being used for policy decisions and its results interpreted wrongly is a travesty unfolding before our eyes."
This whole thing is total fake bullcrap.
Open the country for business.
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UK yearly death stats from Jan 1st to first week in April
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UK yearly death stats from Jan 1st to first week in April
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Exactly.. more people aren't dying, they are just changing the cause of death itself.
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UK yearly death stats from Jan 1st to first week in April
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Look deeper. Until the last few weeks of March the death numbers in the UK were below the 5 year average.
First week of April they jumped 60% above the 5 year average for the week.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52349729
100k Disney Workers not getting a paycheck
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Bro...
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Look deeper. Until the last few weeks of March the death numbers in the UK were below the 5 year average.
First week of April they jumped 60% above the 5 year average for the week.
the full data each week
(https://i.ibb.co/n6MfMn5/Screenshot-2020-04-20-at-18-59-26.png)
a significant jump in the last week , but overall we are still within average, the flu season will be over in a couple of weeks, the stats will start dropping , just as they do every year
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the full data each week
(https://i.ibb.co/n6MfMn5/Screenshot-2020-04-20-at-18-59-26.png)
a significant jump in the last week , but overall we are still within average, the flu season will be over in a couple of weeks, the stats will start dropping , just as they do every year
That line looks within the average, nothing to see here....
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More than 1,800 inmates at Marion prison test positive for coronavirus [OHIO]
WCMH TV ^ | April 19, 2020 | WCHM Staff
Posted on 4/20/2020, 2:14:36 PM by buckalfa
MARION, Ohio (WCMH) — More than 1,800 inmates at Marion Correctional Institution have tested positive for COVID-19 coronavirus.
As of Sunday, 1,828 Marion Correctional inmates have tested positive, along with 109 staff members. Of the 1,828 cases, 38 are currently receiving outside hospital level care, according to an Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction spokesperson.
There are approximately 2,500 inmates in the Marion Correctional Institution.
One staff death was announced on April 8, corrections officer John Dawson. No inmates at Marion Correctional have died.
According to the ODRC, mass testing has been instituted at Marion Correctional, as well as Pickaway Correctional and the Franklin Medical Center.
“Because we are testing everyone – including those who are not showing symptoms – we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic,” ODRC said in its daily release of information.
Individuals who test positive are placed in an area of the facility which is separate from the general population, ODRC’s statement said.
“Also, our comprehensive testing approach of staff and inmates has assisted us in identifying asymptomatic individuals who have tested positive who can now be isolated from others in order to prevent further spread,” the statement said.
Throughout Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction facilities, 2,400 inmates have tested positive and 637 have tested negative.
According to Marion Public Health, as of Saturday, there are 80 community spread cases in the county, leading to one death. Including the prison testing, the county now has the most reported coronavirus cases in the state.
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What keeps this going is the inherent contradiction that prevention of the virus causes extension of the virus. There is no way to prevent this until we find a vaccine, so we can only wait until we have herd immunity. But being this strict about isolation means the longer it will take for us to get herd immunity. This is all about hospital capacity and the media is causing the hospital overflow by telling anyone with any symptoms of a cold to go straight to the hospital to see if they have Corona Virus. The media and "experts" should tell people the truth, that if you are young and healthy without any previous medical conditions, it is ok to just isolate yourself and ride the cold out unless you get life threatening symptoms. And with proper access to testing, people could just check if they have it anywhere and go home to ride it out. Instead they are instructed to go to the hospital, where they are giving their virus to others including hospital workers as well as using up vital resources when all they needed was Nyquil.
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Look deeper. Until the last few weeks of March the death numbers in the UK were below the 5 year average.
First week of April they jumped 60% above the 5 year average for the week.
How many 'British' Pakis died from Chinaflu ?.
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How many 'British' Pakis died from Chinaflu ?.
Don't have numbers, but last time I checked which was a few weeks ago the percentage of pakis dying was roughly at the same ratio as their numbers as a percentage of the population. Whites deaths were about half, blacks double. Mixed race deaths were really low.
Edit*
Just checked latest stats. Most deaths by race are representative of the population. Only black Caribbeans were the outlier with nearly treble the expected deaths.
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I got the joys of gay anal fisting
;D
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At this point, why contain it?
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More than 1,800 inmates at Marion prison test positive for coronavirus [OHIO]
WCMH TV ^ | April 19, 2020 | WCHM Staff
Posted on 4/20/2020, 2:14:36 PM by buckalfa
MARION, Ohio (WCMH) — More than 1,800 inmates at Marion Correctional Institution have tested positive for COVID-19 coronavirus.
As of Sunday, 1,828 Marion Correctional inmates have tested positive, along with 109 staff members. Of the 1,828 cases, 38 are currently receiving outside hospital level care, according to an Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction spokesperson.
There are approximately 2,500 inmates in the Marion Correctional Institution.
One staff death was announced on April 8, corrections officer John Dawson. No inmates at Marion Correctional have died.
According to the ODRC, mass testing has been instituted at Marion Correctional, as well as Pickaway Correctional and the Franklin Medical Center.
“Because we are testing everyone – including those who are not showing symptoms – we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic,” ODRC said in its daily release of information.
Individuals who test positive are placed in an area of the facility which is separate from the general population, ODRC’s statement said.
“Also, our comprehensive testing approach of staff and inmates has assisted us in identifying asymptomatic individuals who have tested positive who can now be isolated from others in order to prevent further spread,” the statement said.
Throughout Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction facilities, 2,400 inmates have tested positive and 637 have tested negative.
According to Marion Public Health, as of Saturday, there are 80 community spread cases in the county, leading to one death. Including the prison testing, the county now has the most reported coronavirus cases in the state.
Is anyone here catching the numbers? Any comment?
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Is anyone here catching the numbers? Any comment?
Given prison food is pretty much slop, can you imagine the crap the general population must have been eating for years on end to be dying from covid.
It's hard to feel sorry for a lot of these people.
Darwinism.
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Given prison food is pretty much slop, can you imagine the crap the general population must have been eating for years on end to be dying from covid.
It's hard to feel sorry for a lot of these people.
Darwinism.
It doesn't appear many (if any) are dying.
Also: “Because we are testing everyone – including those who are not showing symptoms – we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic,” ODRC said in its daily release of information.
I think we're going to figure out that the infection rate, everywhere, has been extremely high. And while a very small percentage of a very large number does make a large number in its own right, we will find that it only shows what an incredibly screwed response we've given.
Our limited resources should have been used on the most vulnerable individuals, and our society absolutely should not have remained shut down so long.
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It doesn't appear many (if any) are dying.
Also: “Because we are testing everyone – including those who are not showing symptoms – we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic,” ODRC said in its daily release of information.
I think we're going to figure out that the infection rate, everywhere, has been extremely high. And while a very small percentage of a very large number does make a large number in its own right, we will find that it only shows what an incredibly screwed response we've given.
Our limited resources should have been used on the most vulnerable individuals, and our society absolutely should not have remained shut down so long.
who cares about people who die because of this right?
Over 9 million Americans lost health insurance amid coronavirus pandemic, analysis finds
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-health-insurance-195215406.html
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who cares about people who die because of this right?
Over 9 million Americans lost health insurance amid coronavirus pandemic, analysis finds
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-health-insurance-195215406.html
Agreed. On the surface, we are acting to save the vulnerable, which we are naturally driven to do. But going deeper, we find we are working against them as much we are working against ourselves.
It doesn't add up.
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Best way to describe it from a my position of observation around studies and data i have read, Mortality rate when data is confirmed same as the flu, but the numbers need to be looked at separate to the flu, so if 650,000 die annually from the flu and they are mainly the old and vulnerable, potentially another similar number 650,000 could be expected from corona again from the same identified group , both deaths are usually from pneumonia or underlying health issues that the virus exacerbates , the common flu pneumonia being bacterial and corona viral pneumonia which looks to be a hell of a lot more labour intensive from health perspective, pushing up the need for more medical attention.
Th global economic shutdown is an over reaction and needs to be called out as one. Just another crisis for the climate change end of world types to hijack.
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Florida and Texas looking good.
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How the 1920s Can Help Predict Our Post-Pandemic Future
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The virus is and always will be shit. It's a bad rash.
The economic shut down is madness.
Cowards.
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This Is What a Pandemic Looks Like in New York City
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Australian facts ,today 22/04/2020 top medicos on Alan Jones 2GB Radio (he rules Aussie radio waves) !.
- 39 people on ventilators
- 7500 hospital beds/ventilators
- NOT enough sick people to test new vaccines
- 1, 89 yo died today
NO, WE (who is WE) are all NOT screwed
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US records lowest coronavirus-related deaths in 2 weeks.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-records-lowest-coronavirus-related-deaths-in-2-weeks (https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-records-lowest-coronavirus-related-deaths-in-2-weeks)
Monday marked the lowest number of coronavirus-related fatalities in the U.S. in two weeks, just days after the number of deaths had spiked to 4,591 in a single day. According to Johns Hopkins University, the U.S. lost 1,433 people to coronavirus on April 20, adding to the overall death toll of 42,364.
According to the data, nearly 93 percent of all U.S. deaths from the pandemic have occurred in the past three weeks, 44 percent of which have occurred over the last seven days. But after several sharp spikes last week, the number seems to be slowing, with the data reflecting an average of 600 less deaths than previous days.
The news comes as several states begin cautiously plotting out plans to slowly reopen businesses as early as the end of this week. Georgia, which as of Tuesday had 19,398 cases and at least 774 deaths, will reopen gyms, hair salons and other businesses beginning on Friday.
Gov. Brian Kemp, who earlier this month ordered Georgia's schools to remain closed for the rest of the 2019-20 school year, said Monday that his state would expand COVID-19 testing and that hospitals were in a position to resume elective surgeries after securing necessary protective personal equipment.
"Given the favorable data, enhanced testing, and approval of our healthcare professionals, we will allow gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers, cosmetologists, hair designers, nail care artists, estheticians, their respective schools and massage therapists to reopen their doors this Friday," Kemp said.
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Australian facts ,today 22/04/2020 top medicos on Alan Jones 2GB Radio (he rules Aussie radio waves) !.
- 39 people on ventilators
- 7500 hospital beds/ventilators
- NOT enough sick people to test new vaccines
- 1, 89 yo died today
NO, WE (who is WE) are all NOT screwed
Because we are all isolating and they’ve managed to find any community transmission. We have got to maintain this for the winter season.
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Because we are all isolating and they’ve managed to find any community transmission. We have got to maintain this for the winter season.
Winter only really increase transmission via increased survival time on surfaces..... There is almost no virus here in Aus, some community transmission in Sydney...
The testing is so widespread the paranoia so high, it's already over tbh. Has been for a while.
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Australian facts ,today 22/04/2020 top medicos on Alan Jones 2GB Radio (he rules Aussie radio waves) !.
- 39 people on ventilators
- 7500 hospital beds/ventilators
- NOT enough sick people to test new vaccines
- 1, 89 yo died today
NO, WE (who is WE) are all NOT screwed
I laughed and said this myself when the moronic nine news was on, that there wasn't going to be anyone for the drug trials if they did hurry up.....
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Holy Fark 1984 much?
https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/de-blasio-urges-new-yorkers-to-snitch-on-social-distance-rule-breakers/
Snap a photo of an offending person or crowd, set the location on the image, and text it to 311-692.
“Action will ensue,” de Blasio vowed.
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Holy Fark 1984 much?
https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/de-blasio-urges-new-yorkers-to-snitch-on-social-distance-rule-breakers/
Snap a photo of an offending person or crowd, set the location on the image, and text it to 311-692.
“Action will ensue,” de Blasio vowed.
btw this was new yorker's response
"De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes"
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?fbclid=IwAR1DWbjGPwXyhp9rRVmxoAkgtqPSz5KL_huoNk0banexVErC9wmuR3pSt24
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Holy Fark 1984 much?
https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/de-blasio-urges-new-yorkers-to-snitch-on-social-distance-rule-breakers/
Snap a photo of an offending person or crowd, set the location on the image, and text it to 311-692.
“Action will ensue,” de Blasio vowed.
Yes, it is much like 1984. They have drones flying around in places like Florida to catch people who are outside. They will use these "pandemics" much more often in the future until it's permanent.
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Agreed. On the surface, we are acting to save the vulnerable, which we are naturally driven to do. But going deeper, we find we are working against them as much we are working against ourselves.
It doesn't add up.
It doesn’t add up because it was never about the virus to begin with. I keep hearing Trump talk about a war with an invisible enemy. It really is an invisible war the visible enemy: China.
At this point, it doesn’t really matter. The deed has been done. Demand has been choked off and the currency has been devalued. The proper course of action for you and your families is to try to suck every nickel you can out of this without putting yourself at legal risk.
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I just got this from my congresswoman, these are the testing sites: if you wanna know about that area in Staten Island, think ODB from the Wu-Tang clan:
As of yesterday (Tuesday), five community-based test sites opened, which will perform 3,600 tests this week. Five more sites will be added next week in hard hit areas. These sites will complete up to 7,000+ tests per week.
- Gotham Health Center, East New York (Brooklyn)
- Gotham Health Center, Morissania (Bronx)
- Vanderbilt Health Center (Staten Island)
- Sydenham Family Health Center (Manhattan)
- Queens Hospital (Queens)
btw this was new yorker's response
"De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes"
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?fbclid=IwAR1DWbjGPwXyhp9rRVmxoAkgtqPSz5KL_huoNk0banexVErC9wmuR3pSt24
One of the few things that brings all New Yorkers together is hatred of Bill de Blasio.
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Yes, it is much like 1984. They have drones flying around in places like Florida to catch people who are outside. They will use these "pandemics" much more often in the future until it's permanent.
Then 'we' will have to adapt to whoever 'they' are, who will be using these pandemics as an excuse to spy on us. It's we verses them. Who will win?
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Because we are all isolating and they’ve managed to find any community transmission. We have got to maintain this for the winter season.
No explonation how old people in Age Care get Chinavirus & support staff don't !.
Something is fishy .....................
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I laughed and said this myself when the moronic nine news was on, that there wasn't going to be anyone for the drug trials if they did hurry up.....
No TV bull for me since the World Cup in Russia 2018 , radio/YouTube/Face ............... :)
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No explonation how old people in Age Care get Chinavirus & support staff don't !.
Something is fishy .....................
The explanation might be that not everyone who contracts the virus has symptoms. So it is possible staff may have introduced it as well as visitors from before the shutdown. Do we know how long the incubation period is?
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Australian facts ,today 22/04/2020 top medicos on Alan Jones 2GB Radio (he rules Aussie radio waves) !.
- 39 people on ventilators
- 7500 hospital beds/ventilators
- NOT enough sick people to test new vaccines
- 1, 89 yo died today
NO, WE (who is WE) are all NOT screwed
you need to learn to read
Again, it's the infrastructure and panic I'm worried about.We go in to recessions due to doomy forecasts or a few % drops in housing, stocks etc.What do you think a virus like this would do if it truly catches hold?You'd be talking about a scenario that the developed West has never experienced.
A once in a lifetime event, with us all locked down.Worst recession possibly ever looming, record numbers out of work, 4 billion people locked down.Id like to see your world definition for being screwed if this doesnt fall in to that.
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Yes, it is much like 1984. They have drones flying around in places like Florida to catch people who are outside. They will use these "pandemics" much more often in the future until it's permanent.
This is similar to what I think - this won’t be the last time this Lockdown approach is used.
So we really don’t have any freedoms- we’re just allowed it until it doesn’t suit TPTB.
We’ve all been royally screwed over big time.
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The explanation might be that not everyone who contracts the virus has symptoms. So it is possible staff may have introduced it as well as visitors from before the shutdown. Do we know how long the incubation period is?
No visitors 4 weeks ................no infected staff ...............no logic !?.
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This is similar to what I think - this won’t be the last time this Lockdown approach is used.
So we really don’t have any freedoms- we’re just allowed it until it doesn’t suit TPTB.
We’ve all been royally screwed over big time.
I cant speak for other countries, but people in the Uk are beginning to turn now.Getting pissed off being told to stay inside, being pissed off for what was a nice one off gesture of clapping for the NHS to being told we HAVE to clap in commericials. Everyone who thought this would be a nice holiday now realizes they might not have a job to go back to if the lockdown isnt lifted now.
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All to save a few old birds who would've been dead soon anyway ::). Modern medicine is enabling sick, old, decrepit individuals to exist much too long.
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No visitors 4 weeks ................no infected staff ...............no logic !?.
Little did we know that old folks in nursing homes sneak out at night and go dancing. Ever read the Twelve Dancing Princesses? A German fairy tale originally published by the Brothers Grimm in 1812.
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its turning
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8245313/Fury-endless-showreel-NHS-staff-dancing-fooling-coronavirus-crisis.html
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Little did we know that old folks in nursing homes sneak out at night and go dancing. Ever read the Twelve Dancing Princesses? A German fairy tale originally published by the Brothers Grimm in 1812.
Nope I grow up on comics books ........... ;D
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No visitors 4 weeks ................no infected staff ...............no logic !?.
There's always a logical explanation if you look or think hard enough. Try this. COVID-19 has an incubation period of 7 to 10 days. Three weeks ago a staff member was exposed to and caught COVID-19. They were lucky to be symptom free although still contagious for about 2 weeks. Somewhere during that window, they infected one or more of the patients. After two weeks the staff member would test negative for the virus. The virus continues to spread unchecked among patients who perhaps get it from contaminated surfaces rather than directly from a staff member. Staff members remain virus free because by this time they are all wearing protective gear and taking every other precaution available. The nursing home will not take responsibility for fear of repercussions, so they maintain they keep all surfaces sanitized and virus free.
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Nope I grow up on comics books ........... ;D
bow to your new heros
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your obviously not intending to get old
Old is one thing old and sick is another.
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your obviously not intending to get old
Majority of the elderly recover from it. It's elderly who have poorly managed diabetes and obesity who don't do well, so lifestyle diseases.
Also those with Dementia don't do well and some might argue putting an end to that is actually a kindness.
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bow to your new heros
LMAO
Except they are basically being treated as cannon fodder by the government.
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Majority of the elderly recover from it. It's elderly who have poorly managed diabetes and obesity who don't do well, so lifestyle diseases.
Also those with Dementia don't do well and some might argue putting an end to that is actually a kindness.
ABSOLUTELY!
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It doesn’t add up because it was never about the virus to begin with. I keep hearing Trump talk about a war with an invisible enemy. It really is an invisible war the visible enemy: China.
At this point, it doesn’t really matter. The deed has been done. Demand has been choked off and the currency has been devalued. The proper course of action for you and your families is to try to suck every nickel you can out of this without putting yourself at legal risk.
In all honesty, where do you see this going? What do you expect to happen at this point? (As if that could be answered, i know... But, still.)
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This is similar to what I think - this won’t be the last time this Lockdown approach is used.
So we really don’t have any freedoms- we’re just allowed it until it doesn’t suit TPTB.
We’ve all been royally screwed over big time.
Agree any government that wants control can just start up the "coronavirus" hysteria again, the media will fall straight in line with their nonsense and the people with be scared and comply (for a while)....
Very concerning.
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In all honesty, where do you see this going? What do you expect to happen at this point? (As if that could be answered, i know... But, still.)
Basically it’s an economic war with the US, Japan and Europe against China. The investment side of China’s economy is a disaster as a result of failed central planning for the last 10 years. Their banking sector is 4 times the size of GDP and is loaded with bad loans. As a result, the currency is way overvalued.
The shutdown and devaluation is going to kill the other half of China’s economy, the export sector. The economic pain is the “sacrifice” we have to make for this war. Interesting, how this crisis occurred almost immediately after trade talks between the US and China broke down.
The other option would’ve been to allow the dollar, Euro and Yen to appreciate dramatically against the Yuan. The problem with that is that it would increase the real value of debt for countries that already have high Debt loads and also make exports not competitive with China. It’s really a race to the bottom.
As an aside, I have to laugh at the tools who are calling people conspiracy theorists because they have the nerve to question why death rates from this virus are higher in black and Hispanic areas of new York city than they are in the area of China where the virus actually started.
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This is what lunatics were saying a month ago. When all is said and done, it will turn out that everything we’ve been told was wrong.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-cure-not-worse-than-disease-971808/
In that light, dealing with even a lot of economic and personal pain seems worth it, especially with an estimated 2.2 million American lives at stake.
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All to save a few old birds who would've been dead soon anyway ::). Modern medicine is enabling sick, old, decrepit individuals to exist much too long.
He ain't lying.
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I hire the best people, only the best!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-report-hhs-chief-azar-had-aide-former-dog-breeder-steer-pandemic-task-force/ar-BB133s3f
SPECIAL REPORT-HHS chief Azar had aide, former dog breeder, steer pandemic task force
WASHINGTON, April 22 (Reuters) - On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.
“We developed a diagnostic test at the CDC, so we can confirm if somebody has this,” Azar said. “We will be spreading that diagnostic around the country so that we are able to do rapid testing on site.”
While coronavirus in Wuhan, China, was “potentially serious,” Azar assured viewers in America, it “was one for which we have a playbook.”
Azar’s initial comments misfired on two fronts. Like many U.S. officials, from President Donald Trump on down, he underestimated the pandemic’s severity. He also overestimated his agency’s preparedness.
As is now widely known, two agencies Azar oversaw as HHS secretary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, wouldn’t come up with viable tests for five and half weeks, even as other countries and the World Health Organization had already prepared their own.
Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”
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Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.
Azar and his top deputies oversaw health agencies that were slow to alert the public to the magnitude of the crisis, to produce a test to tell patients if they were sick, and to provide protective masks to hospitals even as physicians pleaded for them.
The first test created by the CDC, meant to be used by other labs, was plagued by a glitch that rendered it useless and wasn’t fixed for weeks. It wasn’t until March that tests by other labs went into production. The lack of tests “limited hospitals’ ability to monitor the health of patients and staff,” the HHS Inspector General said in a report this month. The equipment shortage “put staff and patients at risk.”
A promised virus surveillance program failed to take root, despite assurances Azar gave to Congress. Rather than share information, three current and three former government officials told Reuters, Azar and top staff sidelined key agencies that could have played a higher-profile role in addressing the pandemic. “It was a mess,” said a White House official who worked with HHS.
Officials across the government, from President Trump on down, have been blasted for America’s halting response to the pandemic. Critics inside and outside the administration say a meaningful share of the responsibility lies with HHS and Trump appointee Azar.
“You have to blame the problem on the virus, but it’s Azar's operation,” said Lynn Goldman, the dean of the public health school at George Washington University, who has served on advisory boards of the FDA and CDC. “And the buck stops there.”
HHS declined to make Azar available for an interview. Michael Caputo, the new chief HHS spokesman, declined to answer Reuters questions about Azar’s stewardship, saying in a statement: "We are communicating to the American public during a deadly pandemic.”
DALLAS LABRADOODLES
Azar is a Republican lawyer who once clerked for the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and counts current Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a friend. Under George W. Bush, Azar worked for HHS as general counsel and deputy secretary. During the Obama years, he cycled through the private sector as a pharmaceutical company lobbyist and executive for Eli Lilly. After Trump’s first HHS secretary was forced out in a travel corruption scandal, Azar stepped in, in January 2018.
Two years later, at the dawn of the coronavirus crisis, Azar appointed his most trusted aide and chief of staff, Harrison, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the virus.
Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company.
Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.
The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000.
At HHS, Harrison was initially deputy chief of staff before being promoted, in the summer of 2019, to replace Azar’s first chief of staff, Peter Urbanowicz, an experienced hospital executive with decades of experience in public health.
This January, Harrison became a key manager of the HHS virus response. “Everyone had to report up through him,” said one HHS official.
One questionable decision, three sources say, came that month, after the White House announced it was convening a coronavirus task force. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies: the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.
Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. “He said he didn’t need to be included,” said one official with knowledge of the matter.
When task force members were announced January 29, neither Hahn nor the FDA were included. Hahn wasn’t put on the task force until Vice President Mike Pence took over in February. Two of Hahn’s high-profile counterparts were on it from the start: CDC director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
The HHS denied it was Harrison’s decision to leave out Hahn and the FDA, but declined to say who made the call. The agency lauded Harrison’s work on the task force.
In a statement, Hahn said the FDA was focused on the coronavirus epidemic, “not on when we were added to the task force,” and that the agency was not “excluded.”
Fauci, who has become a public face of the Trump Administration’s COVID-19 effort, said he wasn’t sure including the FDA was necessary at the start. Initially, the Chinese government was saying the virus spread through animals, not human to human, he said. “You would include the FDA when you want to expedite drugs or devices,” Fauci said.
Others said the lack of a strong FDA role early on had direct consequences. Two sources familiar with events say the White House wasn’t getting information from the FDA about the state of the testing effort, a crucial element of the coronavirus response.
Reached by phone, Harrison declined to answer Reuters’ questions. In a later statement, he did not address questions about the task force but said he was proud of his work history. “Americans would be well served by having more government officials who have started and worked in small family businesses and fewer trying to use that experience to attack them and distort the record,” he wrote.
In a statement to Reuters, Azar said Harrison has been an asset. “From day one, Brian has demonstrated remarkable leadership and managerial talents,” Azar wrote.
LOW RISK?
In the pandemic’s early days, Azar offered words of both concern and assurance in public. On January 31, a day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a global health emergency, Azar declared it a public health emergency.
That same day, during the first Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Azar told the public: “I want to stress: The risk of infection for Americans remains low.”
The United States, he said, had taken adequate precautions. Travel restrictions and 14 day quarantines on Americans who had been to Wuhan, where the virus originated, were imposed. Americans returning from other parts of China had to self-quarantine.
The next week, on February 7, in another press conference, Azar repeated the message. “The immediate risk to the American public is low at this time,” he announced.
Behind the scenes, his aides say, Azar had alerted the White House in early January, and then later that month spoke directly to the president. It is unclear exactly what Azar told the president, because transcripts are not available.
“There’s a lot of CYA going on,” said one senior administration official, who said Azar never spelled out that stockpiles of protective equipment might be inadequate or the tests were not working. “We were told the test was ready. That turned out to be flat-out wrong.”
Trump denied Azar sent out alarms. “@SecAzar told me nothing until later,” he tweeted earlier this month.
Meanwhile, Azar continued to say “the immediate risk” to Americans was low and that travel restrictions had worked. “So I think so far, our measures have been quite effective,” he told NPR on February 14.
Others were raising alarms. “It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a February 25 news briefing.
MORE GLITCHES
Responding to Congressional concerns, Azar said HHS had launched a coronavirus surveillance system in five cities. The plan was to test patients who showed up with flu symptoms, to see if they actually were infected with the novel coronavirus.
But the system was either delayed or not implemented in the cities and now is seen by epidemiologists as irrelevant given the massive community spread and continued inadequate testing.
By the end of February, Azar sought more money to attack the crisis as he testified before Congress. “This is an unprecedented potentially severe health challenge globally, and will require additional measures,” he said.
Still, he assured senators his agency was in control. “We have enacted the most aggressive containment measures in the history of our country,” he said.
He again provided words of calm, appearing on Fox News. “But thanks to President Trump's historically aggressive containment efforts, we've actually contained the spread of this virus here in the United States at this point,” he said February 25. “I think part of the message to the American people is we all need to take a bit of deep breath here.”
“The government is working on this. You've got the right people on this.”
By the end of February, Azar and Harrison were no longer running the White House task force. That month, Vice President Pence took control. The FDA and Hahn are now actively involved. A Pence spokesperson said the issue of precluding the FDA from the task force “pre-dates the VP’s leadership” and declined further comment.
Azar seemed caught off guard by the change. “I’m still chairman of the task force,” he told the press after Pence took over.
Given Azar’s early struggles, the White House should have taken a stronger role over the task force from the outset, said Ashish Jha, director of Harvard University’s Global Health Institute. “It was very clear that Azar wasn’t able to marshal the forces across the government like he needed to,” he said.
Jeffrey Flier, a former Harvard Medical School dean, said the HHS role remains as vital as ever. As of Wednesday, 45,336 Americans have died of COVID-19, and more than 800,000 have been infected.
“Clearly there was a need for better coordination of the FDA and CDC and other agencies,” he said. “HHS has to be operating effectively in a crisis like this.” (Reporting by Aram Roston and Marisa Taylor in Washington. Editing by Ronnie Greene)
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SPECIAL REPORT-HHS chief Azar had aide, former dog breeder, steer pandemic task force
WASHINGTON, April 22 (Reuters) - On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.
“We developed a diagnostic test at the CDC, so we can confirm if somebody has this,” Azar said. “We will be spreading that diagnostic around the country so that we are able to do rapid testing on site.”
While coronavirus in Wuhan, China, was “potentially serious,” Azar assured viewers in America, it “was one for which we have a playbook.”
Azar’s initial comments misfired on two fronts. Like many U.S. officials, from President Donald Trump on down, he underestimated the pandemic’s severity. He also overestimated his agency’s preparedness.
As is now widely known, two agencies Azar oversaw as HHS secretary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, wouldn’t come up with viable tests for five and half weeks, even as other countries and the World Health Organization had already prepared their own.
Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”
Slide 1 of 49: A man holds a sign as demonstrators take part in Operation Grid-Lock to Re-Open New York to protest against lockdown measures in the wake, during the outbreak of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), at the New York State Capitol in Albany, New York, U.S., April 22, 2020.
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A man holds a sign as demonstrators take part in Operation Grid-Lock to Re-Open New York to protest against lockdown measures in the wake, during the outbreak of coronavirus in Albany, New York on April 22.
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Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.
Azar and his top deputies oversaw health agencies that were slow to alert the public to the magnitude of the crisis, to produce a test to tell patients if they were sick, and to provide protective masks to hospitals even as physicians pleaded for them.
The first test created by the CDC, meant to be used by other labs, was plagued by a glitch that rendered it useless and wasn’t fixed for weeks. It wasn’t until March that tests by other labs went into production. The lack of tests “limited hospitals’ ability to monitor the health of patients and staff,” the HHS Inspector General said in a report this month. The equipment shortage “put staff and patients at risk.”
A promised virus surveillance program failed to take root, despite assurances Azar gave to Congress. Rather than share information, three current and three former government officials told Reuters, Azar and top staff sidelined key agencies that could have played a higher-profile role in addressing the pandemic. “It was a mess,” said a White House official who worked with HHS.
Officials across the government, from President Trump on down, have been blasted for America’s halting response to the pandemic. Critics inside and outside the administration say a meaningful share of the responsibility lies with HHS and Trump appointee Azar.
“You have to blame the problem on the virus, but it’s Azar's operation,” said Lynn Goldman, the dean of the public health school at George Washington University, who has served on advisory boards of the FDA and CDC. “And the buck stops there.”
HHS declined to make Azar available for an interview. Michael Caputo, the new chief HHS spokesman, declined to answer Reuters questions about Azar’s stewardship, saying in a statement: "We are communicating to the American public during a deadly pandemic.”
DALLAS LABRADOODLES
Azar is a Republican lawyer who once clerked for the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and counts current Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a friend. Under George W. Bush, Azar worked for HHS as general counsel and deputy secretary. During the Obama years, he cycled through the private sector as a pharmaceutical company lobbyist and executive for Eli Lilly. After Trump’s first HHS secretary was forced out in a travel corruption scandal, Azar stepped in, in January 2018.
Two years later, at the dawn of the coronavirus crisis, Azar appointed his most trusted aide and chief of staff, Harrison, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the virus.
Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company.
Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.
The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000.
At HHS, Harrison was initially deputy chief of staff before being promoted, in the summer of 2019, to replace Azar’s first chief of staff, Peter Urbanowicz, an experienced hospital executive with decades of experience in public health.
This January, Harrison became a key manager of the HHS virus response. “Everyone had to report up through him,” said one HHS official.
One questionable decision, three sources say, came that month, after the White House announced it was convening a coronavirus task force. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies: the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.
Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. “He said he didn’t need to be included,” said one official with knowledge of the matter.
When task force members were announced January 29, neither Hahn nor the FDA were included. Hahn wasn’t put on the task force until Vice President Mike Pence took over in February. Two of Hahn’s high-profile counterparts were on it from the start: CDC director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
The HHS denied it was Harrison’s decision to leave out Hahn and the FDA, but declined to say who made the call. The agency lauded Harrison’s work on the task force.
In a statement, Hahn said the FDA was focused on the coronavirus epidemic, “not on when we were added to the task force,” and that the agency was not “excluded.”
Fauci, who has become a public face of the Trump Administration’s COVID-19 effort, said he wasn’t sure including the FDA was necessary at the start. Initially, the Chinese government was saying the virus spread through animals, not human to human, he said. “You would include the FDA when you want to expedite drugs or devices,” Fauci said.
Others said the lack of a strong FDA role early on had direct consequences. Two sources familiar with events say the White House wasn’t getting information from the FDA about the state of the testing effort, a crucial element of the coronavirus response.
Reached by phone, Harrison declined to answer Reuters’ questions. In a later statement, he did not address questions about the task force but said he was proud of his work history. “Americans would be well served by having more government officials who have started and worked in small family businesses and fewer trying to use that experience to attack them and distort the record,” he wrote.
In a statement to Reuters, Azar said Harrison has been an asset. “From day one, Brian has demonstrated remarkable leadership and managerial talents,” Azar wrote.
LOW RISK?
In the pandemic’s early days, Azar offered words of both concern and assurance in public. On January 31, a day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a global health emergency, Azar declared it a public health emergency.
That same day, during the first Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Azar told the public: “I want to stress: The risk of infection for Americans remains low.”
The United States, he said, had taken adequate precautions. Travel restrictions and 14 day quarantines on Americans who had been to Wuhan, where the virus originated, were imposed. Americans returning from other parts of China had to self-quarantine.
The next week, on February 7, in another press conference, Azar repeated the message. “The immediate risk to the American public is low at this time,” he announced.
Behind the scenes, his aides say, Azar had alerted the White House in early January, and then later that month spoke directly to the president. It is unclear exactly what Azar told the president, because transcripts are not available.
“There’s a lot of CYA going on,” said one senior administration official, who said Azar never spelled out that stockpiles of protective equipment might be inadequate or the tests were not working. “We were told the test was ready. That turned out to be flat-out wrong.”
Trump denied Azar sent out alarms. “@SecAzar told me nothing until later,” he tweeted earlier this month.
Meanwhile, Azar continued to say “the immediate risk” to Americans was low and that travel restrictions had worked. “So I think so far, our measures have been quite effective,” he told NPR on February 14.
Others were raising alarms. “It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a February 25 news briefing.
MORE GLITCHES
Responding to Congressional concerns, Azar said HHS had launched a coronavirus surveillance system in five cities. The plan was to test patients who showed up with flu symptoms, to see if they actually were infected with the novel coronavirus.
But the system was either delayed or not implemented in the cities and now is seen by epidemiologists as irrelevant given the massive community spread and continued inadequate testing.
By the end of February, Azar sought more money to attack the crisis as he testified before Congress. “This is an unprecedented potentially severe health challenge globally, and will require additional measures,” he said.
Still, he assured senators his agency was in control. “We have enacted the most aggressive containment measures in the history of our country,” he said.
He again provided words of calm, appearing on Fox News. “But thanks to President Trump's historically aggressive containment efforts, we've actually contained the spread of this virus here in the United States at this point,” he said February 25. “I think part of the message to the American people is we all need to take a bit of deep breath here.”
“The government is working on this. You've got the right people on this.”
By the end of February, Azar and Harrison were no longer running the White House task force. That month, Vice President Pence took control. The FDA and Hahn are now actively involved. A Pence spokesperson said the issue of precluding the FDA from the task force “pre-dates the VP’s leadership” and declined further comment.
Azar seemed caught off guard by the change. “I’m still chairman of the task force,” he told the press after Pence took over.
Given Azar’s early struggles, the White House should have taken a stronger role over the task force from the outset, said Ashish Jha, director of Harvard University’s Global Health Institute. “It was very clear that Azar wasn’t able to marshal the forces across the government like he needed to,” he said.
Jeffrey Flier, a former Harvard Medical School dean, said the HHS role remains as vital as ever. As of Wednesday, 45,336 Americans have died of COVID-19, and more than 800,000 have been infected.
“Clearly there was a need for better coordination of the FDA and CDC and other agencies,” he said. “HHS has to be operating effectively in a crisis like this.” (Reporting by Aram Roston and Marisa Taylor in Washington. Editing by Ronnie Greene)
WTF is it with you & walls of Text 🙄
Far to long /boring & Likely full of crap to want to read it all
I did see it says something about 45,000 dead due to Chi Nah Virus, How do you know that is
A accurate No. how many autopsies were carried out ? How many died of other symptoms/ complications?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-report-hhs-chief-azar-had-aide-former-dog-breeder-steer-pandemic-task-force/ar-BB133s3f
SPECIAL REPORT-HHS chief Azar had aide, former dog breeder, steer pandemic task force
WASHINGTON, April 22 (Reuters) - On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive, assured Americans the U.S. government was prepared.
“We developed a diagnostic test at the CDC, so we can confirm if somebody has this,” Azar said. “We will be spreading that diagnostic around the country so that we are able to do rapid testing on site.”
While coronavirus in Wuhan, China, was “potentially serious,” Azar assured viewers in America, it “was one for which we have a playbook.”
Azar’s initial comments misfired on two fronts. Like many U.S. officials, from President Donald Trump on down, he underestimated the pandemic’s severity. He also overestimated his agency’s preparedness.
As is now widely known, two agencies Azar oversaw as HHS secretary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, wouldn’t come up with viable tests for five and half weeks, even as other countries and the World Health Organization had already prepared their own.
Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”
Slide 1 of 49: A man holds a sign as demonstrators take part in Operation Grid-Lock to Re-Open New York to protest against lockdown measures in the wake, during the outbreak of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), at the New York State Capitol in Albany, New York, U.S., April 22, 2020.
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A man holds a sign as demonstrators take part in Operation Grid-Lock to Re-Open New York to protest against lockdown measures in the wake, during the outbreak of coronavirus in Albany, New York on April 22.
Slideshow by photo services
Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.
Azar and his top deputies oversaw health agencies that were slow to alert the public to the magnitude of the crisis, to produce a test to tell patients if they were sick, and to provide protective masks to hospitals even as physicians pleaded for them.
The first test created by the CDC, meant to be used by other labs, was plagued by a glitch that rendered it useless and wasn’t fixed for weeks. It wasn’t until March that tests by other labs went into production. The lack of tests “limited hospitals’ ability to monitor the health of patients and staff,” the HHS Inspector General said in a report this month. The equipment shortage “put staff and patients at risk.”
A promised virus surveillance program failed to take root, despite assurances Azar gave to Congress. Rather than share information, three current and three former government officials told Reuters, Azar and top staff sidelined key agencies that could have played a higher-profile role in addressing the pandemic. “It was a mess,” said a White House official who worked with HHS.
Officials across the government, from President Trump on down, have been blasted for America’s halting response to the pandemic. Critics inside and outside the administration say a meaningful share of the responsibility lies with HHS and Trump appointee Azar.
“You have to blame the problem on the virus, but it’s Azar's operation,” said Lynn Goldman, the dean of the public health school at George Washington University, who has served on advisory boards of the FDA and CDC. “And the buck stops there.”
HHS declined to make Azar available for an interview. Michael Caputo, the new chief HHS spokesman, declined to answer Reuters questions about Azar’s stewardship, saying in a statement: "We are communicating to the American public during a deadly pandemic.”
DALLAS LABRADOODLES
Azar is a Republican lawyer who once clerked for the late conservative Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and counts current Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a friend. Under George W. Bush, Azar worked for HHS as general counsel and deputy secretary. During the Obama years, he cycled through the private sector as a pharmaceutical company lobbyist and executive for Eli Lilly. After Trump’s first HHS secretary was forced out in a travel corruption scandal, Azar stepped in, in January 2018.
Two years later, at the dawn of the coronavirus crisis, Azar appointed his most trusted aide and chief of staff, Harrison, as HHS’s main coordinator for the government’s response to the virus.
Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company.
Before joining the Trump Administration in January 2018, Harrison’s official HHS biography says, he “ran a small business in Texas.” The biography does not disclose the name or nature of that business, but his personal financial disclosure forms show that from 2012 until 2018 he ran a company called Dallas Labradoodles.
The company sells Australian Labradoodles, a breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. He sold it in April 2018, his financial disclosure form said. HHS emailed Reuters that the sales price was $225,000.
At HHS, Harrison was initially deputy chief of staff before being promoted, in the summer of 2019, to replace Azar’s first chief of staff, Peter Urbanowicz, an experienced hospital executive with decades of experience in public health.
This January, Harrison became a key manager of the HHS virus response. “Everyone had to report up through him,” said one HHS official.
One questionable decision, three sources say, came that month, after the White House announced it was convening a coronavirus task force. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies: the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.
Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. “He said he didn’t need to be included,” said one official with knowledge of the matter.
When task force members were announced January 29, neither Hahn nor the FDA were included. Hahn wasn’t put on the task force until Vice President Mike Pence took over in February. Two of Hahn’s high-profile counterparts were on it from the start: CDC director Robert Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
The HHS denied it was Harrison’s decision to leave out Hahn and the FDA, but declined to say who made the call. The agency lauded Harrison’s work on the task force.
In a statement, Hahn said the FDA was focused on the coronavirus epidemic, “not on when we were added to the task force,” and that the agency was not “excluded.”
Fauci, who has become a public face of the Trump Administration’s COVID-19 effort, said he wasn’t sure including the FDA was necessary at the start. Initially, the Chinese government was saying the virus spread through animals, not human to human, he said. “You would include the FDA when you want to expedite drugs or devices,” Fauci said.
Others said the lack of a strong FDA role early on had direct consequences. Two sources familiar with events say the White House wasn’t getting information from the FDA about the state of the testing effort, a crucial element of the coronavirus response.
Reached by phone, Harrison declined to answer Reuters’ questions. In a later statement, he did not address questions about the task force but said he was proud of his work history. “Americans would be well served by having more government officials who have started and worked in small family businesses and fewer trying to use that experience to attack them and distort the record,” he wrote.
In a statement to Reuters, Azar said Harrison has been an asset. “From day one, Brian has demonstrated remarkable leadership and managerial talents,” Azar wrote.
LOW RISK?
In the pandemic’s early days, Azar offered words of both concern and assurance in public. On January 31, a day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a global health emergency, Azar declared it a public health emergency.
That same day, during the first Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Azar told the public: “I want to stress: The risk of infection for Americans remains low.”
The United States, he said, had taken adequate precautions. Travel restrictions and 14 day quarantines on Americans who had been to Wuhan, where the virus originated, were imposed. Americans returning from other parts of China had to self-quarantine.
The next week, on February 7, in another press conference, Azar repeated the message. “The immediate risk to the American public is low at this time,” he announced.
Behind the scenes, his aides say, Azar had alerted the White House in early January, and then later that month spoke directly to the president. It is unclear exactly what Azar told the president, because transcripts are not available.
“There’s a lot of CYA going on,” said one senior administration official, who said Azar never spelled out that stockpiles of protective equipment might be inadequate or the tests were not working. “We were told the test was ready. That turned out to be flat-out wrong.”
Trump denied Azar sent out alarms. “@SecAzar told me nothing until later,” he tweeted earlier this month.
Meanwhile, Azar continued to say “the immediate risk” to Americans was low and that travel restrictions had worked. “So I think so far, our measures have been quite effective,” he told NPR on February 14.
Others were raising alarms. “It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a February 25 news briefing.
MORE GLITCHES
Responding to Congressional concerns, Azar said HHS had launched a coronavirus surveillance system in five cities. The plan was to test patients who showed up with flu symptoms, to see if they actually were infected with the novel coronavirus.
But the system was either delayed or not implemented in the cities and now is seen by epidemiologists as irrelevant given the massive community spread and continued inadequate testing.
By the end of February, Azar sought more money to attack the crisis as he testified before Congress. “This is an unprecedented potentially severe health challenge globally, and will require additional measures,” he said.
Still, he assured senators his agency was in control. “We have enacted the most aggressive containment measures in the history of our country,” he said.
He again provided words of calm, appearing on Fox News. “But thanks to President Trump's historically aggressive containment efforts, we've actually contained the spread of this virus here in the United States at this point,” he said February 25. “I think part of the message to the American people is we all need to take a bit of deep breath here.”
“The government is working on this. You've got the right people on this.”
By the end of February, Azar and Harrison were no longer running the White House task force. That month, Vice President Pence took control. The FDA and Hahn are now actively involved. A Pence spokesperson said the issue of precluding the FDA from the task force “pre-dates the VP’s leadership” and declined further comment.
Azar seemed caught off guard by the change. “I’m still chairman of the task force,” he told the press after Pence took over.
Given Azar’s early struggles, the White House should have taken a stronger role over the task force from the outset, said Ashish Jha, director of Harvard University’s Global Health Institute. “It was very clear that Azar wasn’t able to marshal the forces across the government like he needed to,” he said.
Jeffrey Flier, a former Harvard Medical School dean, said the HHS role remains as vital as ever. As of Wednesday, 45,336 Americans have died of COVID-19, and more than 800,000 have been infected.
“Clearly there was a need for better coordination of the FDA and CDC and other agencies,” he said. “HHS has to be operating effectively in a crisis like this.” (Reporting by Aram Roston and Marisa Taylor in Washington. Editing by Ronnie Greene)
Bro...
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Bro...
I got thru 70% of it I think lol
Some people are good at internets
Some, not so good
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I got thru 70% of it I think lol
Some people are good at internets
Some, not so good
I don't even try to read his copy/paste books and I doubt anybody either. Make your arguments and the if you want to back it up post a link. Anybody can just copy and paste all day.
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Trump will be needed more than ever to rebuild the economy and take China to task, the whole world looks to him, I wasn't a fan as a a more traditional republican type, but his can do attitude and lack of political correctness is a breath of fresh air. The world needs Trump now not just the US.
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its turning
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8245313/Fury-endless-showreel-NHS-staff-dancing-fooling-coronavirus-crisis.html
yes, plenty time on their hands to fuck about, wonder how many takes it took to get it right before they were happy to post it
I had a fucking nightmare last year at the hands of the NHS, they treated me worse than a fucking dog
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Basically it’s an economic war with the US, Japan and Europe against China. The investment side of China’s economy is a disaster as a result of failed central planning for the last 10 years. Their banking sector is 4 times the size of GDP and is loaded with bad loans. As a result, the currency is way overvalued.
The shutdown and devaluation is going to kill the other half of China’s economy, the export sector. The economic pain is the “sacrifice” we have to make for this war. Interesting, how this crisis occurred almost immediately after trade talks between the US and China broke down.
The other option would’ve been to allow the dollar, Euro and Yen to appreciate dramatically against the Yuan. The problem with that is that it would increase the real value of debt for countries that already have high Debt loads and also make exports not competitive with China. It’s really a race to the bottom.
As an aside, I have to laugh at the tools who are calling people conspiracy theorists because they have the nerve to question why death rates from this virus are higher in black and Hispanic areas of new York city than they are in the area of China where the virus actually started.
Hong Kong has basically said that China has lied about their numbers.
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Hong Kong has basically said that China has lied about their numbers.
Basically?
Didnt they want to go into any detail?
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Basically it’s an economic war with the US, Japan and Europe against China. The investment side of China’s economy is a disaster as a result of failed central planning for the last 10 years. Their banking sector is 4 times the size of GDP and is loaded with bad loans. As a result, the currency is way overvalued.
The shutdown and devaluation is going to kill the other half of China’s economy, the export sector. The economic pain is the “sacrifice” we have to make for this war. Interesting, how this crisis occurred almost immediately after trade talks between the US and China broke down.
The other option would’ve been to allow the dollar, Euro and Yen to appreciate dramatically against the Yuan. The problem with that is that it would increase the real value of debt for countries that already have high Debt loads and also make exports not competitive with China. It’s really a race to the bottom.
As an aside, I have to laugh at the tools who are calling people conspiracy theorists because they have the nerve to question why death rates from this virus are higher in black and Hispanic areas of new York city than they are in the area of China where the virus actually started.
Only on Getbig a man who can't tell the difference between linear and exponential growth makes forecasts about the Global Economy.
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Basically?
Didnt they want to go into any detail?
How they counted deaths and cases at the start was very different to how they count now. Also a few days ago they decided to up the the death count in Wuhan by exactly 50% because everyone was calling their data BS
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How they counted deaths and cases at the start was very different to how they count now. Also a few days ago they decided to up the the death count in Wuhan by exactly 50% because everyone was calling their data BS
wasnt it basically 50%?
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wasnt it basically 50%?
Basically it’s 50% of Basically what they Basically stated Basically 🤔
🤣😂
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Basically it’s 50% of Basically what they Basically stated Basically 🤔
🤣😂
Basically I think you are right about the basics. ;D
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wasnt it basically 50%?
I spoke about China initially and later gave you exact percentages for Wuhan. So no it wasn't basically 50% moron.
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Basically it’s 50% of Basically what they Basically stated Basically 🤔
🤣😂
Basically I think you are right about the basics. ;D
More morons joining the party
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Only on Getbig a man who can't tell the difference between linear and exponential growth makes forecasts about the Global Economy.
I can one up that.
I got morons who basically can't tell the difference between a City and Country even though they have completely different names.
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More morons joining the party
You’re in the party so you’re calling yourself a Moron also
Not to Bright are you 🙄 - Trying to insult others & Showing Yourself Up
Is Best you Keep Quiet.
PS.
Learn to Laugh & Have a Joke
Life will be over before you know it.
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Basically I think you are right about the basics. ;D
Well on that basis I Basically Agree with Basics 👍🏻
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You’re in the party so you’re calling yourself a Moron also
Not to Bright are you 🙄 - Trying to insult others & Showing Yourself Up
Is Best you Keep Quiet.
PS.
Learn to Laugh & Have a Joke
Life will be over before you know it.
When I post like a moron on here I do it intentionally to amuse myself. Sadly it's not intentional when some of you do it..
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When I post like a moron on here I do it intentionally to amuse myself. Sadly it's not intentional when some of you do it..
Dug your stupid self into a hole with your Moron post didn’t you,
And now your compounding it by this last post of yours as you’re unable to
Recognise That Other are intentionally post in such a manner to Amuse Themselves 🙄
FFS - just admit you got it wrong - Helpful Tip = When in a Hole STOP Digging.
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yes, plenty time on their hands to fuck about, wonder how many takes it took to get it right before they were happy to post it
I had a fucking nightmare last year at the hands of the NHS, they treated me worse than a fucking dog
Haha
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Dug your stupid self into a hole with your Moron post didn’t you,
And now your compounding it by this last post of yours as you’re unable to
Recognise That Other are intentionally post in such a manner to Amuse Themselves 🙄
FFS - just admit you got it wrong - Helpful Tip = When in a Hole STOP Digging.
I'm playing chess with a pigeon
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I'm playing chess with a pigeon
Hey Stupid 10/10 For Trying
Carry on digging Son
Never try talking to a dead person as they’re dead & don’t know it
Same as talking to an idiot like you They’re an Idiot & Don’t Know it.
Bye Bye 👋🏻👋🏻
Retro Corrected to Pls Simpleton Idiot 🤣😂🤣
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Nearly 12,000 and the moron still can't use the quote function properly
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The portrait of a great leader
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Home Alone at the White House: A Sour President, With TV His Constant Companion
How the crisis will shape tomorrow's workplaces
Trump says social distancing guidelines may be extended into summer
WASHINGTON — President Trump arrives in the Oval Office these days as late as noon, when he is usually in a sour mood after his morning marathon of television.
a person standing in front of a window: President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.
He has been up in the White House master bedroom as early as 5 a.m. watching Fox News, then CNN, with a dollop of MSNBC thrown in for rage viewing. He makes calls with the TV on in the background, his routine since he first arrived at the White House.
But now there are differences.
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The president sees few allies no matter which channel he clicks. He is angry even with Fox, an old security
ork, closely monitoring for a sporadic compliment or snipe.
Confined to the White House, the president is isolated from the supporters, visitors, travel and golf that once entertained him, according to more than a dozen administration officials and close advisers who spoke about Mr. Trump’s strange new life. He is tested weekly, as is Vice President Mike Pence, for Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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The economy — Mr. Trump’s main case for re-election — has imploded. News coverage of his handling of the coronavirus has been overwhelmingly negative as Democrats have condemned him for a lack of empathy, honesty and competence in the face of a pandemic. Even Republicans have criticized Mr. Trump’s briefings as long-winded and his rough handling of critics as unproductive.
His own internal polling shows him sliding in some swing states, a major reason he declared a temporary halt to the issuance of green cards to those outside the United States. The executive order — watered down with loopholes after an uproar from business groups — was aimed at pleasing his political base, people close to him said, and was the kind of move Mr. Trump makes when things feel out of control. Friends who have spoken to him said he seemed unsettled and worried about losing the election.
But the president’s primary focus, advisers said, is assessing how his performance on the virus is measured in the news media, and the extent to which history will blame him.
“He’s frustrated,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Mr. Trump who was the president’s pick to run the Federal Reserve before his history of sexist comments and lack of child support payments surfaced. “It’s like being hit with a meteor.”
Mr. Trump frequently vents about how he is portrayed. He was enraged by an article this month in which his health secretary, Alex M. Azar II, was said to have warned Mr. Trump in January about the possibility of a pandemic. Mr. Trump was upset that he was being blamed while Mr. Azar was portrayed in a more favorable light, aides said. The president told friends that he assumed Mr. Azar was working the news media to try to save his own reputation at the expense of Mr. Trump’s.
a woman standing in front of a mirror posing for the camera: Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.© Doug Mills/The New York Times Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.
Aides said the president’s low point was in mid-March, when Mr. Trump, who had dismissed the virus as “one person coming in from China” and no worse than the flu, saw deaths and infections from Covid-19 rising daily. Mike Lindell, a Trump donor campaign surrogate and the chief executive of MyPillow, visited the White House later that month and said the president seemed so glum that Mr. Lindell pulled out his phone to show him a text message from a Democratic-voting friend of his who thought Mr. Trump was doing a good job.
a large white building: Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.
Mr. Lindell said Mr. Trump perked up after hearing the praise. “I just wanted to give him a little confidence,” Mr. Lindell said.
The Daily Briefings
The daily White House coronavirus task force briefing is the one portion of the day that Mr. Trump looks forward to, although even Republicans say that the two hours of political attacks, grievances and falsehoods by the president are hurting him politically.
Mr. Trump will hear none of it. Aides say he views them as prime-time shows that are the best substitute for the rallies he can longer attend but craves.
Mr. Trump rarely attends the task force meetings that precede the briefings, and he typically does not prepare before he steps in front of the cameras. He is often seeing the final version of the day’s main talking points that aides have prepared for him for the first time although aides said he makes tweaks with a Sharpie just before he reads them live. He hastily plows through them, usually in a monotone, in order to get to the question-and-answer bullying session with reporters that he relishes.
The briefing’s critics, including Mr. Cuomo, have pointed out the obvious: With two hours of the president’s day dedicated to hosting what is still referred to as a prime-time news briefing, who is going to actually fix the pandemic?
Even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, one of the experts appointed to advise the president on the best way to handle the outbreak, has complained that the amount of time he must spend onstage in the briefings each day has a “draining” effect on him.
They have the opposite effect on the president. How he arrived at them was almost an accident.
Mr. Trump became enraged watching the coverage of his 10-minute Oval Office address in March that was rife with inaccuracies and had little in terms of action for him to announce. He complained to aides that there were few people on television willing to defend him.
The solution, aides said, came two days later, when Mr. Trump appeared in the Rose Garden to declare a national emergency and answer questions from reporters. As he admonished journalists for asking “nasty” questions, Mr. Trump found the back-and-forth he had been missing. The virus had not been a perfect enemy — it was impervious to his browbeating — but baiting and attacking reporters energized him.
“I don’t take responsibility at all,” Mr. Trump told White House correspondents in answer to one question.
His first news conference in the briefing room took place the next day, on a Saturday, after Mr. Trump arrived unannounced in the Situation Room, wearing a polo shirt and baseball cap, and told the group he planned to attend the briefing and watch from a chair on the side. When aides told him that reporters would simply yell questions at him, even if he was not on the small stage, he agreed to take the podium. He has not looked back since.
When Mr. Trump finishes up 90 or more minutes later, he heads back to the Oval Office to watch the end of the briefings on TV and compare notes with whoever is around from his inner circle.
The New Pecking Order
That circle has shrunk significantly as the president, who advisers say is more sensitive to criticism than at nearly any other point in his presidency, has come to rely on only a handful of longtime aides.
Hope Hicks, a former communications director who rejoined the White House this year as counselor to the president, maintains his daily schedule. His former personal assistant, Johnny McEntee, now runs presidential personnel.
Ms. Hicks and Mr. McEntee, along with Dan Scavino, the president’s social media guru who was promoted this week to deputy chief of staff for communications, provide Mr. Trump with a link to the better old days. The three are the ones outside advisers get in touch with to find out if it’s a good time to reach the president or pass on a message.
Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s new chief of staff, is still finding his footing and adjusting to the nocturnal habits of Mr. Trump, who recently placed a call to Mr. Meadows, a senior administration official said, at 3:19 a.m. Mr. Meadows works closely with another trusted insider: Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and de facto chief of staff.
“They have been really confined and figuratively imprisoned,” Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George Washington University, said about presidents who have kept close to the White House in times of crisis.
While many officials have been encouraged to work remotely and the Old Executive Office Building is empty, the West Wing’s tight quarters are still packed. Mr. Pence and his top aides, usually stationed across the street, are working exclusively from the White House, along with most of the senior aides, who dine from the takeout mess while the in-house dining room remains closed. Few aides wear masks except for Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, and some of his staff.
The Day Ends as It Began
As soon as he gets to the Oval Office, the president often receives his daily intelligence briefing, and Mr. Pence sometimes joins him. Then there are meetings with his national security team or economic advisers.
Throughout the day, Mr. Trump calls governors, will have lunch with cabinet secretaries and pores over newspapers, which he treats like official briefing books and reads primarily in paper clippings that aides bring to him. He calls aides about stories he sees, either to order them to get a world leader on the phone or to ask questions about something he has read.
Many friends said they were less likely to call Mr. Trump’s cellphone, assuming he does not want to hear their advice. Those who do reach him said phone calls have grown more clipped: Conversations that used to last 20 minutes now wrap up in three.
Mr. Trump will still take calls from Brad Parscale, his campaign manager, on the latest on polling data. The president will in turn call Mr. Meadows and Kellyanne Conway about key congressional races.
The president’s aides have slowly lined up more opportunities to keep him engaged. Last week, a small group of coronavirus survivors were led into the White House, and Mr. Trump took one of them to see the White House physician. Then Mr. Trump hosted a celebration of America’s truckers on the South Lawn.
After he is done watching the end of the daily White House briefing — which goes seven days a week, sometimes as late as 8 p.m. — Mr. Trump eats his usual comfort foods, including French fries, in his private dining room off the Oval Office. He asks staff members who may still be around for an assessment of how the briefing went.
Lately, aides say, his mood has started to brighten as his administration moves to open the economy. His new line, both in public and in private, is that there is reason to be optimistic.
“And at the end of that tunnel, we see light,” Mr. Trump said in the Rose Garden last week.
If he is not staying late in the West Wing, Mr. Trump occasionally has dinner with his wife, Melania Trump, and their son, Barron, who recently celebrated his 14th birthday at home.
By the end of the day, Mr. Trump turns back to his constant companion, television. Upstairs in the White House private quarters — often in his own bedroom or in a nearby den — he flicks from channel to channel, reviewing his performance.
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Nearly 12,000 and the moron still can't use the quote function properly
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Carry on Digging
You’re Village wants it’s Idiot Back.
Little things please little Minds
👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
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I just called China and nobody answered.
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More morons joining the party
What can I say, I love a party.
Or did you mean moroons?
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Home Alone at the White House: A Sour President, With TV His Constant Companion
How the crisis will shape tomorrow's workplaces
Trump says social distancing guidelines may be extended into summer
WASHINGTON — President Trump arrives in the Oval Office these days as late as noon, when he is usually in a sour mood after his morning marathon of television.
a person standing in front of a window: President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.
He has been up in the White House master bedroom as early as 5 a.m. watching Fox News, then CNN, with a dollop of MSNBC thrown in for rage viewing. He makes calls with the TV on in the background, his routine since he first arrived at the White House.
But now there are differences.
Sign Up For the Morning Briefing Newsletter
The president sees few allies no matter which channel he clicks. He is angry even with Fox, an old security
ork, closely monitoring for a sporadic compliment or snipe.
Confined to the White House, the president is isolated from the supporters, visitors, travel and golf that once entertained him, according to more than a dozen administration officials and close advisers who spoke about Mr. Trump’s strange new life. He is tested weekly, as is Vice President Mike Pence, for Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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The economy — Mr. Trump’s main case for re-election — has imploded. News coverage of his handling of the coronavirus has been overwhelmingly negative as Democrats have condemned him for a lack of empathy, honesty and competence in the face of a pandemic. Even Republicans have criticized Mr. Trump’s briefings as long-winded and his rough handling of critics as unproductive.
His own internal polling shows him sliding in some swing states, a major reason he declared a temporary halt to the issuance of green cards to those outside the United States. The executive order — watered down with loopholes after an uproar from business groups — was aimed at pleasing his political base, people close to him said, and was the kind of move Mr. Trump makes when things feel out of control. Friends who have spoken to him said he seemed unsettled and worried about losing the election.
But the president’s primary focus, advisers said, is assessing how his performance on the virus is measured in the news media, and the extent to which history will blame him.
“He’s frustrated,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Mr. Trump who was the president’s pick to run the Federal Reserve before his history of sexist comments and lack of child support payments surfaced. “It’s like being hit with a meteor.”
Mr. Trump frequently vents about how he is portrayed. He was enraged by an article this month in which his health secretary, Alex M. Azar II, was said to have warned Mr. Trump in January about the possibility of a pandemic. Mr. Trump was upset that he was being blamed while Mr. Azar was portrayed in a more favorable light, aides said. The president told friends that he assumed Mr. Azar was working the news media to try to save his own reputation at the expense of Mr. Trump’s.
a woman standing in front of a mirror posing for the camera: Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.© Doug Mills/The New York Times Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.
Aides said the president’s low point was in mid-March, when Mr. Trump, who had dismissed the virus as “one person coming in from China” and no worse than the flu, saw deaths and infections from Covid-19 rising daily. Mike Lindell, a Trump donor campaign surrogate and the chief executive of MyPillow, visited the White House later that month and said the president seemed so glum that Mr. Lindell pulled out his phone to show him a text message from a Democratic-voting friend of his who thought Mr. Trump was doing a good job.
a large white building: Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.
Mr. Lindell said Mr. Trump perked up after hearing the praise. “I just wanted to give him a little confidence,” Mr. Lindell said.
The Daily Briefings
The daily White House coronavirus task force briefing is the one portion of the day that Mr. Trump looks forward to, although even Republicans say that the two hours of political attacks, grievances and falsehoods by the president are hurting him politically.
Mr. Trump will hear none of it. Aides say he views them as prime-time shows that are the best substitute for the rallies he can longer attend but craves.
Mr. Trump rarely attends the task force meetings that precede the briefings, and he typically does not prepare before he steps in front of the cameras. He is often seeing the final version of the day’s main talking points that aides have prepared for him for the first time although aides said he makes tweaks with a Sharpie just before he reads them live. He hastily plows through them, usually in a monotone, in order to get to the question-and-answer bullying session with reporters that he relishes.
The briefing’s critics, including Mr. Cuomo, have pointed out the obvious: With two hours of the president’s day dedicated to hosting what is still referred to as a prime-time news briefing, who is going to actually fix the pandemic?
Even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, one of the experts appointed to advise the president on the best way to handle the outbreak, has complained that the amount of time he must spend onstage in the briefings each day has a “draining” effect on him.
They have the opposite effect on the president. How he arrived at them was almost an accident.
Mr. Trump became enraged watching the coverage of his 10-minute Oval Office address in March that was rife with inaccuracies and had little in terms of action for him to announce. He complained to aides that there were few people on television willing to defend him.
The solution, aides said, came two days later, when Mr. Trump appeared in the Rose Garden to declare a national emergency and answer questions from reporters. As he admonished journalists for asking “nasty” questions, Mr. Trump found the back-and-forth he had been missing. The virus had not been a perfect enemy — it was impervious to his browbeating — but baiting and attacking reporters energized him.
“I don’t take responsibility at all,” Mr. Trump told White House correspondents in answer to one question.
His first news conference in the briefing room took place the next day, on a Saturday, after Mr. Trump arrived unannounced in the Situation Room, wearing a polo shirt and baseball cap, and told the group he planned to attend the briefing and watch from a chair on the side. When aides told him that reporters would simply yell questions at him, even if he was not on the small stage, he agreed to take the podium. He has not looked back since.
When Mr. Trump finishes up 90 or more minutes later, he heads back to the Oval Office to watch the end of the briefings on TV and compare notes with whoever is around from his inner circle.
The New Pecking Order
That circle has shrunk significantly as the president, who advisers say is more sensitive to criticism than at nearly any other point in his presidency, has come to rely on only a handful of longtime aides.
Hope Hicks, a former communications director who rejoined the White House this year as counselor to the president, maintains his daily schedule. His former personal assistant, Johnny McEntee, now runs presidential personnel.
Ms. Hicks and Mr. McEntee, along with Dan Scavino, the president’s social media guru who was promoted this week to deputy chief of staff for communications, provide Mr. Trump with a link to the better old days. The three are the ones outside advisers get in touch with to find out if it’s a good time to reach the president or pass on a message.
Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s new chief of staff, is still finding his footing and adjusting to the nocturnal habits of Mr. Trump, who recently placed a call to Mr. Meadows, a senior administration official said, at 3:19 a.m. Mr. Meadows works closely with another trusted insider: Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and de facto chief of staff.
“They have been really confined and figuratively imprisoned,” Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George Washington University, said about presidents who have kept close to the White House in times of crisis.
While many officials have been encouraged to work remotely and the Old Executive Office Building is empty, the West Wing’s tight quarters are still packed. Mr. Pence and his top aides, usually stationed across the street, are working exclusively from the White House, along with most of the senior aides, who dine from the takeout mess while the in-house dining room remains closed. Few aides wear masks except for Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, and some of his staff.
The Day Ends as It Began
As soon as he gets to the Oval Office, the president often receives his daily intelligence briefing, and Mr. Pence sometimes joins him. Then there are meetings with his national security team or economic advisers.
Throughout the day, Mr. Trump calls governors, will have lunch with cabinet secretaries and pores over newspapers, which he treats like official briefing books and reads primarily in paper clippings that aides bring to him. He calls aides about stories he sees, either to order them to get a world leader on the phone or to ask questions about something he has read.
Many friends said they were less likely to call Mr. Trump’s cellphone, assuming he does not want to hear their advice. Those who do reach him said phone calls have grown more clipped: Conversations that used to last 20 minutes now wrap up in three.
Mr. Trump will still take calls from Brad Parscale, his campaign manager, on the latest on polling data. The president will in turn call Mr. Meadows and Kellyanne Conway about key congressional races.
The president’s aides have slowly lined up more opportunities to keep him engaged. Last week, a small group of coronavirus survivors were led into the White House, and Mr. Trump took one of them to see the White House physician. Then Mr. Trump hosted a celebration of America’s truckers on the South Lawn.
After he is done watching the end of the daily White House briefing — which goes seven days a week, sometimes as late as 8 p.m. — Mr. Trump eats his usual comfort foods, including French fries, in his private dining room off the Oval Office. He asks staff members who may still be around for an assessment of how the briefing went.
Lately, aides say, his mood has started to brighten as his administration moves to open the economy. His new line, both in public and in private, is that there is reason to be optimistic.
“And at the end of that tunnel, we see light,” Mr. Trump said in the Rose Garden last week.
If he is not staying late in the West Wing, Mr. Trump occasionally has dinner with his wife, Melania Trump, and their son, Barron, who recently celebrated his 14th birthday at home.
By the end of the day, Mr. Trump turns back to his constant companion, television. Upstairs in the White House private quarters — often in his own bedroom or in a nearby den — he flicks from channel to channel, reviewing his performance.
Bro...
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Driver wearing N95 mask for ‘several hours’ passes out, crashes into pole, police say
A driver who police believe was wearing an N95 mask for “several hours” passed out Thursday while driving his car in Lincoln Park and crashed into a pole, according to a Facebook post from the borough police department.
The driver, who was not severely injured, was the only person in car and passed out due to “insufficient oxygen intake/excessive carbon dioxide intake,” police said.
“Motorists and the public alike are reminded that while masks should be used in public settings to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, they are not necessary outdoors when social distancing can be maintained, and especially not necessary when driving a vehicle with no additional occupants,” the department said in the post.
Authorities said they have not ruled out another medical reason as a contributing cause to the crash, but said they did not find any evidence that the driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
“As it relates to this specific incident, we reiterate that police officers are not physicians and do not know the medical history of every person we encounter,” police said in an updated post.
“It was stated in the original post that we ‘believed’ the excessive wearing of an N95 mask was a contributing factor to this accident. While we don’t know this with 100% certainty, we do know that the driver had been wearing an N95 mask inside the vehicle for several hours and ultimately passed out while operating the vehicle.”
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I heard it was recently stated that injecting bleach, alcohol or some other disinfectant into our bodies while exposing ourselves to high temperatures and intensive UV light, we can quickly kill 'the corona'. Surprisingly, this didn't come from Marty Champions, but another "expert" on health, viruses and medical science, not to mention that this person also has an amazing grasp on the when and how to kick-start the economy. Care to guess who this esteemed person is? ;)
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I heard it was recently stated that injecting bleach, alcohol or some other disinfectant into our bodies while exposing ourselves to high temperatures and intensive UV light, we can quickly kill 'the corona'. Surprisingly, this didn't come from Marty Champions, but another "expert" on health, viruses and medical science, not to mention that this person also has an amazing grasp on the when and how to kick-start the economy. Care to guess who this esteemed person is? ;)
I think that he had been listening to the medical experts discuss certain potential strategies that could be used in the future. But lacking their scientific background, he jumbled his wording as he attempted to repeat what he had heard them previously saying.
He didn’t need to say anything. The doctor already said everything that needed to be said.
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I think that he had been listening to the medical experts discuss certain potential strategies that could be used in the future. But lacking their scientific background, he jumbled his wording as he attempted to repeat what he had heard them previously saying.
He didn’t need to say anything. The doctor already said everything that needed to be said.
That's why he should let the experts do the talking. They're just guessing at a lot of what they report anyway. It is likely they will miscalculate sometimes and will take the heat for it. But the idiot in the room or on the lawn, insists on talking to the press, despite that he invariably says something so incredulous that it is laughable and at times also dangerous, especially for those folks who believe everything he says is the absolute truth and often also hold that the scientists are lying. Is bleach a metaphor for Kool-aide?
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I heard it was recently stated that injecting bleach, alcohol or some other disinfectant into our bodies while exposing ourselves to high temperatures and intensive UV light, we can quickly kill 'the corona'. Surprisingly, this didn't come from Marty Champions, but another "expert" on health, viruses and medical science, not to mention that this person also has an amazing grasp on the when and how to kick-start the economy. Care to guess who this esteemed person is? ;)
Trump was told by some expert that coronavirus dies in sunlight and high temps. Just like any other virus. He then ran with the idea without thinking about how what he was sayi g would sound. He did not say anything about bleach.
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The portrait of a great leader
Hey 'dearth' how is life in Peking & ChinaFlu deadly destruction of local yellow dwarfs :D
Looks like prez Xi JinPing-Pong is paying you per number of posted words ;D
What's for lunch , fried bats or soup of donkey tails :P .
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too much bleach and not enough sun
Life on the South Seas (& Hawaii) is so "bad" 8) 8) 8)
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Home Alone at the White House: A Sour President, With TV His Constant Companion
How the crisis will shape tomorrow's workplaces
Trump says social distancing guidelines may be extended into summer
WASHINGTON — President Trump arrives in the Oval Office these days as late as noon, when he is usually in a sour mood after his morning marathon of television.
a person standing in front of a window: President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times President Trump’s internal polling has shown his approval rating sliding in some swing states.
He has been up in the White House master bedroom as early as 5 a.m. watching Fox News, then CNN, with a dollop of MSNBC thrown in for rage viewing. He makes calls with the TV on in the background, his routine since he first arrived at the White House.
But now there are differences.
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The president sees few allies no matter which channel he clicks. He is angry even with Fox, an old security
ork, closely monitoring for a sporadic compliment or snipe.
Confined to the White House, the president is isolated from the supporters, visitors, travel and golf that once entertained him, according to more than a dozen administration officials and close advisers who spoke about Mr. Trump’s strange new life. He is tested weekly, as is Vice President Mike Pence, for Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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The economy — Mr. Trump’s main case for re-election — has imploded. News coverage of his handling of the coronavirus has been overwhelmingly negative as Democrats have condemned him for a lack of empathy, honesty and competence in the face of a pandemic. Even Republicans have criticized Mr. Trump’s briefings as long-winded and his rough handling of critics as unproductive.
His own internal polling shows him sliding in some swing states, a major reason he declared a temporary halt to the issuance of green cards to those outside the United States. The executive order — watered down with loopholes after an uproar from business groups — was aimed at pleasing his political base, people close to him said, and was the kind of move Mr. Trump makes when things feel out of control. Friends who have spoken to him said he seemed unsettled and worried about losing the election.
But the president’s primary focus, advisers said, is assessing how his performance on the virus is measured in the news media, and the extent to which history will blame him.
“He’s frustrated,” said Stephen Moore, an outside economic adviser to Mr. Trump who was the president’s pick to run the Federal Reserve before his history of sexist comments and lack of child support payments surfaced. “It’s like being hit with a meteor.”
Mr. Trump frequently vents about how he is portrayed. He was enraged by an article this month in which his health secretary, Alex M. Azar II, was said to have warned Mr. Trump in January about the possibility of a pandemic. Mr. Trump was upset that he was being blamed while Mr. Azar was portrayed in a more favorable light, aides said. The president told friends that he assumed Mr. Azar was working the news media to try to save his own reputation at the expense of Mr. Trump’s.
a woman standing in front of a mirror posing for the camera: Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.© Doug Mills/The New York Times Hope Hicks, a counselor to the president, in 2018. She has taken over managing Mr. Trump’s schedule.
Aides said the president’s low point was in mid-March, when Mr. Trump, who had dismissed the virus as “one person coming in from China” and no worse than the flu, saw deaths and infections from Covid-19 rising daily. Mike Lindell, a Trump donor campaign surrogate and the chief executive of MyPillow, visited the White House later that month and said the president seemed so glum that Mr. Lindell pulled out his phone to show him a text message from a Democratic-voting friend of his who thought Mr. Trump was doing a good job.
a large white building: Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.© Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times Mr. Trump usually starts and ends his day watching television.
Mr. Lindell said Mr. Trump perked up after hearing the praise. “I just wanted to give him a little confidence,” Mr. Lindell said.
The Daily Briefings
The daily White House coronavirus task force briefing is the one portion of the day that Mr. Trump looks forward to, although even Republicans say that the two hours of political attacks, grievances and falsehoods by the president are hurting him politically.
Mr. Trump will hear none of it. Aides say he views them as prime-time shows that are the best substitute for the rallies he can longer attend but craves.
Mr. Trump rarely attends the task force meetings that precede the briefings, and he typically does not prepare before he steps in front of the cameras. He is often seeing the final version of the day’s main talking points that aides have prepared for him for the first time although aides said he makes tweaks with a Sharpie just before he reads them live. He hastily plows through them, usually in a monotone, in order to get to the question-and-answer bullying session with reporters that he relishes.
The briefing’s critics, including Mr. Cuomo, have pointed out the obvious: With two hours of the president’s day dedicated to hosting what is still referred to as a prime-time news briefing, who is going to actually fix the pandemic?
Even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, one of the experts appointed to advise the president on the best way to handle the outbreak, has complained that the amount of time he must spend onstage in the briefings each day has a “draining” effect on him.
They have the opposite effect on the president. How he arrived at them was almost an accident.
Mr. Trump became enraged watching the coverage of his 10-minute Oval Office address in March that was rife with inaccuracies and had little in terms of action for him to announce. He complained to aides that there were few people on television willing to defend him.
The solution, aides said, came two days later, when Mr. Trump appeared in the Rose Garden to declare a national emergency and answer questions from reporters. As he admonished journalists for asking “nasty” questions, Mr. Trump found the back-and-forth he had been missing. The virus had not been a perfect enemy — it was impervious to his browbeating — but baiting and attacking reporters energized him.
“I don’t take responsibility at all,” Mr. Trump told White House correspondents in answer to one question.
His first news conference in the briefing room took place the next day, on a Saturday, after Mr. Trump arrived unannounced in the Situation Room, wearing a polo shirt and baseball cap, and told the group he planned to attend the briefing and watch from a chair on the side. When aides told him that reporters would simply yell questions at him, even if he was not on the small stage, he agreed to take the podium. He has not looked back since.
When Mr. Trump finishes up 90 or more minutes later, he heads back to the Oval Office to watch the end of the briefings on TV and compare notes with whoever is around from his inner circle.
The New Pecking Order
That circle has shrunk significantly as the president, who advisers say is more sensitive to criticism than at nearly any other point in his presidency, has come to rely on only a handful of longtime aides.
Hope Hicks, a former communications director who rejoined the White House this year as counselor to the president, maintains his daily schedule. His former personal assistant, Johnny McEntee, now runs presidential personnel.
Ms. Hicks and Mr. McEntee, along with Dan Scavino, the president’s social media guru who was promoted this week to deputy chief of staff for communications, provide Mr. Trump with a link to the better old days. The three are the ones outside advisers get in touch with to find out if it’s a good time to reach the president or pass on a message.
Mark Meadows, Mr. Trump’s new chief of staff, is still finding his footing and adjusting to the nocturnal habits of Mr. Trump, who recently placed a call to Mr. Meadows, a senior administration official said, at 3:19 a.m. Mr. Meadows works closely with another trusted insider: Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and de facto chief of staff.
“They have been really confined and figuratively imprisoned,” Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George Washington University, said about presidents who have kept close to the White House in times of crisis.
While many officials have been encouraged to work remotely and the Old Executive Office Building is empty, the West Wing’s tight quarters are still packed. Mr. Pence and his top aides, usually stationed across the street, are working exclusively from the White House, along with most of the senior aides, who dine from the takeout mess while the in-house dining room remains closed. Few aides wear masks except for Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, and some of his staff.
The Day Ends as It Began
As soon as he gets to the Oval Office, the president often receives his daily intelligence briefing, and Mr. Pence sometimes joins him. Then there are meetings with his national security team or economic advisers.
Throughout the day, Mr. Trump calls governors, will have lunch with cabinet secretaries and pores over newspapers, which he treats like official briefing books and reads primarily in paper clippings that aides bring to him. He calls aides about stories he sees, either to order them to get a world leader on the phone or to ask questions about something he has read.
Many friends said they were less likely to call Mr. Trump’s cellphone, assuming he does not want to hear their advice. Those who do reach him said phone calls have grown more clipped: Conversations that used to last 20 minutes now wrap up in three.
Mr. Trump will still take calls from Brad Parscale, his campaign manager, on the latest on polling data. The president will in turn call Mr. Meadows and Kellyanne Conway about key congressional races.
The president’s aides have slowly lined up more opportunities to keep him engaged. Last week, a small group of coronavirus survivors were led into the White House, and Mr. Trump took one of them to see the White House physician. Then Mr. Trump hosted a celebration of America’s truckers on the South Lawn.
After he is done watching the end of the daily White House briefing — which goes seven days a week, sometimes as late as 8 p.m. — Mr. Trump eats his usual comfort foods, including French fries, in his private dining room off the Oval Office. He asks staff members who may still be around for an assessment of how the briefing went.
Lately, aides say, his mood has started to brighten as his administration moves to open the economy. His new line, both in public and in private, is that there is reason to be optimistic.
“And at the end of that tunnel, we see light,” Mr. Trump said in the Rose Garden last week.
If he is not staying late in the West Wing, Mr. Trump occasionally has dinner with his wife, Melania Trump, and their son, Barron, who recently celebrated his 14th birthday at home.
By the end of the day, Mr. Trump turns back to his constant companion, television. Upstairs in the White House private quarters — often in his own bedroom or in a nearby den — he flicks from channel to channel, reviewing his performance.
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Trump was told by some expert that coronavirus dies in sunlight and high temps. Just like any other virus. He then ran with the idea without thinking about how what he was sayi g would sound. He did not say anything about bleach.
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.
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Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.
Nancy's ice cream collection and her new $ 24 000 fridge is far more interesting subject ;)
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Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.
Trump never suggested anyone drink tank cleaner. Stop talking out your ass.
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Trump never suggested anyone drink tank cleaner. Stop talking out your ass.
You're reading with your ass. I never said Trump suggested people drink fish tank cleaner. If you just a smattering of reading comprehension, you'd see that I made it very clear that there are people who do stupid things and the couple who did this are a good example of those people.
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Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.
people who do things like that shouldnt be in the gene pool anyway..
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people who do things like that shouldnt be in the gene pool anyway..
Perhaps you are right. But since he was and his wife is a senior they likely already added to the gene pool. Their stupidity (or desperation) has no affect on the gene pool.
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Perhaps you are right. But since he was and his wife is a senior they likely already added to the gene pool. Their stupidity (or desperation) has no affect on the gene pool.
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I think that he had been listening to the medical experts discuss certain potential strategies that could be used in the future. But lacking their scientific background, he jumbled his wording as he attempted to repeat what he had heard them previously saying.
He didn’t need to say anything. The doctor already said everything that needed to be said.
It was taken out of context.
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It was taken out of context.
Saggy is just too much anti Trump, he could be working for China >:(.
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Why is it usually disgusting degenerate filt that hates trump?
Dick eaters and ghetto trash. No normal dude that wakes up and goes to work hates him. Some may dislike him, but the real anti-trumpers are all undesirables.
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Why is it usually disgusting degenerate filt that hates trump?
Dick eaters and ghetto trash. No normal dude that wakes up and goes to work hates him. Some may dislike him, but the real anti-trumpers are all undesirables.
I can’t stand Trump. And I am not even American.
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Soon my friends.. TPTB will win the ultimate war and you will be at their mercy
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I'm not so sure that what Trump said was taken out of context as you claim it was.
No matter how you look at it, it seems he said something really stupid.
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I'm not so sure that what Trump said was taken out of context as you claim it was.
No matter how you look at it, it seems he said something really stupid.
Trumptards trying to spin the unspinnable.
He said something very stupid ,they don't have to defend it ,just admit it and move on.
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Maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Bleach is considered by many to be the ultimate disinfectant because it kills every virus and every germ and doesn't require the dwell time other disinfectants do to work. He did say something about injecting a disinfectant. That's probably just enough to encourage some idiots to run out and buy some household bleach and some syringes so they can self medicate. After all, one couple drank fish tank cleaner because it contained chloroquine phosphate which is also found in an antimalarial medication that Trump suggested could be used to fight COVID-19.
Regardless of who said it - If any retards just go act on using Hazardous Chemicals without verifying exact facts they deserve all they get. What’s it going to get to if every thing has to be spelt out in baby language so Stupid idiots don’t go harm themselves. If they’re that totally stupid they going to do themselves serious harm one way or another sooner or later. It’s just nature acting to cull the thick ones out of the gene pool,
Like it or not Medical science / is going against nature by constantly keeping the sick / weak etc alive & allowing them to reproduce which just goes against nature completely.
Only The Strongest Survive in Nature .
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Regardless of who said it - If any retards just go act on using Hazardous Chemicals without verifying exact facts they deserve all they get. What’s it going to get to if every thing has to be spelt out in baby language so Stupid idiots don’t go harm themselves. If they’re that totally stupid they going to do themselves serious harm one way or another sooner or later. It’s just nature acting to cull the thick ones out of the gene pool,
Like it or not Medical science / is going against nature by constantly keeping the sick / weak etc alive & allowing them to reproduce which just goes against nature completely.
Only The Strongest Survive in Nature .
Science goes against nature in a lot of ways.
You probably would not be alive if they didn't.
So with your own logic, you should be dead.
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I'm not so sure that what Trump said was taken out of context as you claim it was.
No matter how you look at it, it seems he said something really stupid.
I guess I wasn't clear enough.
Trump did say something stupid. But to me it sounded like he was inferring things and asking for confirmation from his advisers.
He did not explicitely say "you need to inject bleach" or something like that. He literally said "Is there a way we can do something like that?" before his comment about the desinfectant, and "it'd be interesting to check that" and "sounds interesting"afterwards. So that's what I think it's been taken out of context.
For the record, I'm not a Trump supporter.
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Soon my friends.. TPTB will win the ultimate war and you will be at their mercy
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Money paper and coins are so laden with germs, there is no way you'd want to handle it right now. Plastic requires minimal touching and the scanner and stylist can be disinfected between users. This is what is happening at the grocery stores in my town. COVID-19 will probably change how commerce is conducted forever.
Yesterday, I wanted a Subway sandwich. The ordering, delivery and transaction involved a minimal of human contact. Ordered and paid for it online, picked it up at the store at the scheduled time. Signed the receipt with my own pen. When I got home I unwrapped it onto a plate and then washed my hands really well before eating it. The store clerks make the sandwich wearing disposable gloves. The opportunity for a transfer of germs was almost totally minimized.
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Trumptards trying to spin the unspinnable.
He said something very stupid ,they don't have to defend it ,just admit it and move on.
Fuck off Chetard, lol.
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What's really going on is that scientists/virologist/doctors are being pressured by the government leadership to provide answers that are as yet unknown. Couple that with people who have no idea what they are talking about with regards to this issue are giving the public completely asinine and false information which is often completely contrary to what little scientific knowledge is available, Trump is one great example of this stupidity. And since many people believe everything he says is the truth are eating it up.
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Basically it’s an economic war with the US, Japan and Europe against China. The investment side of China’s economy is a disaster as a result of failed central planning for the last 10 years. Their banking sector is 4 times the size of GDP and is loaded with bad loans. As a result, the currency is way overvalued.
The shutdown and devaluation is going to kill the other half of China’s economy, the export sector. The economic pain is the “sacrifice” we have to make for this war. Interesting, how this crisis occurred almost immediately after trade talks between the US and China broke down.
The other option would’ve been to allow the dollar, Euro and Yen to appreciate dramatically against the Yuan. The problem with that is that it would increase the real value of debt for countries that already have high Debt loads and also make exports not competitive with China. It’s really a race to the bottom.
As an aside, I have to laugh at the tools who are calling people conspiracy theorists because they have the nerve to question why death rates from this virus are higher in black and Hispanic areas of new York city than they are in the area of China where the virus actually started.
I appreciate how you're taking a fairly optimistic view, when it comes down to it.
As for the guys who receive media messages as some sort of guiding light of truth, while immediately attacking everything else as "conspiracy", I don"t know what to say. Makes me wonder what'll become of us if that mindset wins out.
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I guess I wasn't clear enough.
Trump did say something stupid. But to me it sounded like he was inferring things and asking for confirmation from his advisers.
He did not explicitely say "you need to inject bleach" or something like that. He literally said "Is there a way we can do something like that?" before his comment about the desinfectant, and "it'd be interesting to check that" and "sounds interesting"afterwards. So that's what I think it's been taken out of context.
For the record, I'm not a Trump supporter.
any one for chlorinated chicken ?
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I can’t stand Trump. And I am not even American.
Jealous of Melania ;)
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Best way to describe it from a my position of observation around studies and data i have read, Mortality rate when data is confirmed same as the flu, but the numbers need to be looked at separate to the flu, so if 650,000 die annually from the flu and they are mainly the old and vulnerable, potentially another similar number 650,000 could be expected from corona again from the same identified group , both deaths are usually from pneumonia or underlying health issues that the virus exacerbates , the common flu pneumonia being bacterial and corona viral pneumonia which looks to be a hell of a lot more labour intensive from health perspective, pushing up the need for more medical attention.
Th global economic shutdown is an over reaction and needs to be called out as one. Just another crisis for the climate change end of world types to hijack.
Interesting post, honest.
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Best way to describe it from a my position of observation around studies and data i have read, Mortality rate when data is confirmed same as the flu, but the numbers need to be looked at separate to the flu, so if 650,000 die annually from the flu and they are mainly the old and vulnerable, potentially another similar number 650,000 could be expected from corona again from the same identified group , both deaths are usually from pneumonia or underlying health issues that the virus exacerbates , the common flu pneumonia being bacterial and corona viral pneumonia which looks to be a hell of a lot more labour intensive from health perspective, pushing up the need for more medical attention.
Th global economic shutdown is an over reaction and needs to be called out as one. Just another crisis for the climate change end of world types to hijack.
Very good post sir.
I’d also guess that China know more about this Virus than they’re telling anyone.
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:P
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I can’t stand Trump. And I am not even American.
I am American and I concur.
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Jealous of Melania ;)
I doubt it.
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People dying of conditions having nothing to do with COVID because they can’t get medical attention when they need it…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-coronavirus-crisis-heart-stroke-153340811.html
And read the comments! So many medical professionals laid off, empty hospitals all over the country, doctors’ offices shut down everywhere…
My uncle can’t get in to see his doctor for his severe kidney pain because those offices are closed.
My elderly mom can’t get in to see her doctor either — and these are people who really need access to medical care.
Amazing how blind one has to be to believe that this is all done for public health.
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Jealous of Melania ;)
It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.
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Jealous of Melania ;)
Like we give a shit what an Aussie thinks of America. Screw off Booty.
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Like we give a shit what an Aussie thinks of America. Screw off Booty.
It’s a public forum. I strongly dislike Trump.
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I am adopted American and I concur.
fixed ;)
obw, any pics of you in the 3rd Reich 1945-1948 :D
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It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.
Yeah, real "narcists" who donates his presidential salary !.
We don't have a president , we have very "competent" :
- Prime Minister on annual salary of $ 549 250
- Governor General on a/s of $ 425 000 (this guy can fire elected Aussie PM)
- Queen Elizabeth on a/s of + $ 97 000 000
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I can’t stand Trump. And I am not even American.
Why?
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Why?
For many reasons.
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It’s got nothing to do with her. He’s a narcissist and incompetent. I am so glad he’s not our president.
What would be a couple of examples of his incompetence? What he did and what he should have done?
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Soon my friends.. TPTB will win the ultimate war and you will be at their mercy
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And who exactly is "TPTB"?
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For many reasons.
Must be something sexual ;)
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I'm Australian, love the trump!
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And who exactly is "TPTB"?
The REAL owners of the world to whom the late George Carlin refers.
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fixed ;)
obw, any pics of you in the 3rd Reich 1945-1948 :D
I am so not an adopted American that your comments cracked me up.
Ever hear of the SAR (Sons of the American Revolution)? Probably not. My grandfather was a member which means if I wanted, I could be a member. So no there are no photos of me in the 3rd Reich. Which by the way was from 1933 until the end of World War II in Europe on May 8, 1945 and not the dates you claimed. At that time i was not yet a year old.
You fixed nothing because it was never broken. Guess history isn't your strong suit, huh?
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Yeah, real "narcists" who donates his presidential salary !.
We don't have a president , we have very "competent" :
- Prime Minister on annual salary of $ 549 250
- Governor General on a/s of $ 425 000 (this guy can fire elected Aussie PM)
- Queen Elizabeth on a/s of + $ 97 000 000
Which would you say is the higher of these two figures? The salary Trump says he donates or the taxes he avoids paying? If he's the rich man you all think he is, donating his annual salary of approximately $400,000 is like putting a buck in the tip jar at Starbucks. But hey, at least he's doing that.
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I am not going to explain my reasons for strongly disliking Trump. Because I am the only female around these parts of the woods, it doesn’t mean you can use me to derail this thread. I know you are bored but I suggest you start taking some arimidex again. I am going to cook dinner and watch some Netflix.
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The REAL owners of the world to whom the late George Carlin refers.
And who are the "real owners of the world" that a comedian claims and you put so much trust in his word?
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I am not going to explain my reasons for strongly disliking Trump. Because I am the only female around these parts of the woods, it doesn’t mean you can use me to derail this thread. I know you are bored but I suggest you start taking some arimidex again. I am going to cook dinner and watch some Netflix.
Are you able to give any specific examples of Trump's incompetence? What he did and what you think should have been done.
And what does being the only woman on this thread have anything to do with backing up your claims? If PlainJane posted on this thread would this change anything?
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Are you able to give any specific examples of Trump's incompetence? What he did and what you think should have been done.
And what does being the only woman on this thread have anything to do with backing up your claims? If PlainJane posted on this thread would this change anything?
Yes we do have another female. I forgot for a sec. I guess what I am saying is that I feel as though I am being asked to explain my reasons for disliking Trump while prime made it known he also didn’t like him. But I didn’t see anyone ask why that was the case. So I feel targeted.
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Yes we do have another female. I forgot for a sec. I guess what I am saying is that I feel as though I am being asked to explain my reasons for disliking Trump while prime made it known he also didn’t like him. But I didn’t see anyone ask why that was the case. So I feel targeted.
Prime has given many reasons for disliking Trump.
But I am not asking you that. I thought my question was very specific. What specific examples can you give of Trump's incompetence? What he actually did and what you think he should have done. A specific example. Not just saying "he was slow to act on the coronavirus." What he actually did and what you think he should have done?
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Prime has given many reasons for disliking Trump.
But I am not asking you that. I thought my question was very specific. What specific examples can you give of Trump's incompetence? What he actually did and what you think he should have done. A specific example. Not just saying "he was slow to act on the coronavirus." What he actually did and what you think he should have done?
Take it EASY there partner. I know youre salty over being stuck at home another month (and counting) but theres no need to be inhospitable. Relax, take a deep breath, and just be glad you didnt die trying to steal a catalytic converter.
Man dies when car he was allegedly trying to steal from falls on top of him
February 22, 2020 at 11:57 PM HST - Updated February 23 at 5:01 AM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (WDAF/CNN) - Police are investigating after a Missouri man was crushed to death by a car while allegedly trying to steal a part from it.
The incident happened Friday morning in a Kansas City, Missouri, parking lot and involved a Toyota Prius. The owner of the Prius, who did not want to be identified, says he was at work when he learned his car had crushed a man.
A person in another vehicle tried to lift the Prius off the man using a jack, according to the car’s owner, but the victim died at the scene.
Authorities say the man was trying to steal the car’s catalytic converter, a device that reduces toxic gases and pollutants from a vehicle’s exhaust system.
James Garten, a service adviser at KC Complete Auto, says Pruis’ catalytic converters contain valuable metals like palladium, rhodium and platinum, and thieves can make a quick buck off them.
“When it comes to catalytic converters being stolen, it’s a common occurrence,” Garten said. “They take them to different scrapyards, and they will scrap them out. Nowadays, a lot of scrapyards will take catalytic converters, but you have to supply them with titles.”
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Prime has given many reasons for disliking Trump.
But I am not asking you that. I thought my question was very specific. What specific examples can you give of Trump's incompetence? What he actually did and what you think he should have done. A specific example. Not just saying "he was slow to act on the coronavirus." What he actually did and what you think he should have done?
Settle down Penis Lust. I don’t need to explain myself to anybody. It’s a joke that he’s a president. He is a joke. I Hope life is good in Hawaii in isolation? They are lifting some restrictions here in my state on Saturday and it’s so confusing that I wish things would remain in place. It’s just another way to try and issue us with fines.
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out of 3300 who tested positive in the Jail - 96% showed no symptoms at all! This lockdown crap is sheer madness.
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2270RX?
In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms
Linda So and Grant Smith
(Reuters) - When the first cases of the new coronavirus surfaced in Ohio’s prisons, the director in charge felt like she was fighting a ghost.
“We weren’t always able to pinpoint where all the cases were coming from,” said Annette Chambers-Smith, director of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction. As the virus spread, they began mass testing.
They started with the Marion Correctional Institution, which houses 2,500 prisoners in north central Ohio, many of them older with pre-existing health conditions. After testing 2,300 inmates for the coronavirus, they were shocked. Of the 2,028 who tested positive, close to 95% had no symptoms.
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“It was very surprising,” said Chambers-Smith, who oversees the state’s 28 correctional facilities.
As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems -- Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia -- 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters. That’s out of 4,693 tests that included results on symptoms.
The numbers are the latest evidence to suggest that people who are asymptomatic — contagious but not physically sick -- may be driving the spread of the virus, not only in state prisons that house 1.3 million inmates across the country, but also in communities across the globe. The figures also reinforce questions over whether testing of just people suspected of being infected is actually capturing the spread of the virus.
"It adds to the understanding that we have a severe undercount of cases in the U.S.,” said Dr. Leana Wen, adjunct associate professor of emergency medicine at George Washington University, said of the Reuters findings. “The case count is likely much, much higher than we currently know because of the lack of testing and surveillance."
Some people diagnosed as asymptomatic when tested for the coronavirus, however, may go on to develop symptoms later, according to researchers.
The United States has more people behind bars than any other nation, a total incarcerated population of nearly 2.3 million as of 2017 -- nearly half of which is in state prisons. Smaller numbers are locked in federal prisons and local jails, which typically hold people for relatively short periods as they await trial.
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State prison systems in Michigan, Tennessee and California have also begun mass testing -- checking for coronavirus infections in large numbers of inmates even if they show no sign of illness -- but have not provided specific counts of asymptomatic prisoners.
Tennessee said a majority of its positive cases didn’t show symptoms. In Michigan, state authorities said "a good number" of the 620 prisoners who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic. California’s state prison system would not release counts of asymptomatic prisoners.
Each state manages multiple prison facilities. Ohio, for instance, has 49,000 prisoners in 28 facilities. A total 3,837 inmates tested positive for the coronavirus in 15 of those facilities. But the state has not yet provided results on symptoms for 1,809 of them and did not identify the total number of tests conducted across the prison system.
Arkansas and Tennessee have also taken a targeted approach by conducting mass testing in several of their facilities. Michigan, North Carolina, California and Virginia have started with one facility each.
Most state prisons did not provide the age or other demographic details of those who tested positive for the coronavirus, which has killed more than 200,000 people globally, including more than 53,000 in the United States.
Reuters surveyed all 50 state prison systems. Of the 30 that responded, most are only testing inmates who show symptoms, suggesting they could be vastly undercounting the number infected by the coronavirus.
Florida and Texas, whose inmate populations are bigger than Ohio’s, report a combined total of just 931 cases -- far fewer than the 3,837 inmates who tested positive in Ohio. New York, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak, has reported 269 positive cases among 51,000 inmates. All three states are testing only symptomatic prisoners.
“Prison agencies are almost certainly vastly undercounting the number of COVID cases among incarcerated persons,” said Michele Deitch, a corrections specialist and senior lecturer at the University of Texas. “Just as the experts are telling us in our free-world communities, the only way to get ahead of this outbreak is through mass testing.”
Prison officials in Florida and Texas said they were following guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention along with state health officials when testing only inmates showing symptoms of the virus. New York’s Department of Corrections said its policy of only testing prisoners who show symptoms was “reflective of testing procedures in the general public.”
Tennessee took an aggressive approach after a dozen inmates tested positive at the Bledsoe County Correctional Complex in the city of Pikeville last week. The state's Department of Correction has tested 3,503 prisoners at Bledsoe, the Northwest Correctional Complex and the Turney Center Industrial Complex.
“It’s what makes the pandemic more difficult to manage,” said Marc Stern, former medical director for the Washington State Department of Corrections and a faculty member at the University of Washington’s School of Public Health. “There are a whole lot of people who are asymptomatic.”
After a recent spike in cases at the Neuse Correctional Institution in Goldsboro, North Carolina, state correctional officials tested all 723 prisoners last week. Of the 444 who were infected by the virus, 98% were asymptomatic, the state’s department of public safety said. One inmate has died at the prison.
Similarly, mass testing at two Arkansas prisons -- the Cummins Unit in the city of Grady and the Community Correction Center in the state capital Little Rock -- found 751 infected inmates, almost all of them asymptomatic, the state corrections department said. It did not provide the total number of inmates who were tested.
Arkansas’ prisons have faced contagious disease outbreaks before, such as scabies and chickenpox, but those episodes were easier to manage because inmates showed overt symptoms, said Arkansas Department of Corrections spokeswoman Dina Tyler. “But with this virus, you have no idea because so many are asymptomatic. It makes it very challenging to contain,” she said.
‘24-HOUR TURNAROUND IS CRUCIAL’
Michigan’s Lakeland Correctional Facility houses some of the state’s oldest and most medically frail prisoners. When coronavirus cases surged, the prison saw a spike in infections and deaths. As of April 23, nine Lakeland inmates had died from COVID-19, accounting for a third of the deaths across Michigan’s 29 state prisons.
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Nearly half of Lakeland’s 1,400 prisoners suffer from chronic underlying health conditions, according to state data. Many are in wheelchairs, and the minimum-security facility in southern Michigan has its own geriatric unit for its large elderly population.
On Tuesday, the prison tested all 400 inmates in the geriatric ward and plans to test the rest of the facility by the end of the week. Of the 971 tested so far, 642, or about 66%, were positive. A state official declined to disclose how many were asymptomatic.
“We know mass testing is going to make our numbers spike and might make us look bad,” said Chris Gautz, spokesman for the Michigan Department of Corrections. “But I don’t think there’s another prison system in the country that doesn’t have large numbers. They just might not be testing as rigorously as we are.”
All tested inmates are quarantined in their rooms or units pending the test results, which usually come back in a day, he said. “The 24-hour turnaround is crucial” because once an inmate tests negative, they can return to the general population, he said.
In the seven state prison systems conducting mass tests, 49 inmates have died.
As the coronavirus spreads behind bars, rights groups and public defenders say they fear more will succumb, and have pressed for the release of nonviolent older and medically high-risk inmates. While thousands have been let out, crowded, often unsanitary conditions have raised concerns that jails and prisons could become vectors for the disease.
“They’re worse than landlocked cruise ships,” Stern, the corrections expert, said, referring to stranded cruise ships that have been overwhelmed by coronavirus infections.
(Linda So reported from Washington and Grant Smith from New York. Additional reporting by Brad Heath. Editing by Jason Szep)
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What Soul Crusher posted, adds a lot of weight to "the scam is in the testing" claim.
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Why No COVID-19 Models Have Been Accurate, And How To Fix That
The Federalist ^ | April 27, 2020 | Jon McCloskey
The decisions that are being made during this crisis are far too important and complex to be based on such imprecise data and with such unreliable results.
There’s been a lot of armchair analysis about various models being used to predict outcomes of COVID-19. For those of us who have built spatial and statistical models, all of this discussion brings to mind George Box’s dictum, “All models are wrong, but some are useful”—or useless, as the case may be.
The problem with data-driven models, especially when data is lacking, can be easily explained. First of all, in terms of helping decision makers make quality decisions, statistical hypothesis testing and data analysis is just one tool in a large tool box.
It’s based on what we generally call reductionist theory. In short, the tool examines parts of a system (usually by estimating an average or mean) and then makes inferences to the whole system. The tool is usually quite good at testing hypotheses under carefully controlled experimental conditions.
For example, the success of the pharmaceutical industry is, in part, due to the fact that they can design and implement controlled experiments in a laboratory. However, even under controlled experimental procedures, the tool has limitations and is subject to sampling error. In reality, the true mean (the true number or answer we are seeking) is unknowable because we cannot possibly measure everything or everybody, and model estimates always have a certain amount of error.
These Models Are Unreliable
Simple confidence intervals can provide good insight into the precision and reliability, or usefulness, of the part estimated by reductionist models. With the COVID-19 models, the so-called “news” appears to be using either the confidence interval from one model or actual estimated values (i.e., means) from different models as a way of reporting a range of the “predicted” number of people who may contract or die from the disease (e.g., 60,000 to 2 million).
Either way, the range in estimates is quite large and useless, at least for helping decision makers make such key decisions about our health, economy, and civil liberties. The armchair analysts’ descriptions about these estimates show how clueless they are of even the simplest of statistical interpretation.
The fact is, when a model has a confidence interval as wide as those reported, the primary conclusion is that the model is imprecise and unreliable. Likewise, if these wide ranges are coming from estimated means of several different models, it clearly indicates a lack of repeatability (i.e., again, a lack of precision and reliability).
Either way, these types of results are an indication of bias in the data, which can come from many sources (such as not enough data, measurement error, reporting error, using too many variables, etc.). For the COVID-19 models, most of the data appears to come from large population centers like New York. This means the data sample is biased, which makes the entire analysis invalid for making any inferences outside of New York or, at best, areas without similar population density.
It would be antithetical to the scientific method if such data were used to make decisions in, for example, Wyoming or rural Virginia. While these models can sometimes provide decision makers useful information, the decisions that are being made during this crisis are far too important and complex to be based on such imprecise data. There are volumes of scientific literature that explain the limitations of reductionist methods, if the reader wishes to investigate this further.
Despite Unreliability, Models Influence Huge Decisions
Considering the limitations of this tool under controlled laboratory conditions, imagine what happens within more complex systems that encompass large areas, contain millions of people, and vary with time (such as seasonal or annual changes). In fact, for predicting outcomes within complex and adaptive and dynamic systems, where controlled experiments are not possible, data is lacking, and large amounts of uncertainty exist, the reductionists’ tool is not useful.
Researchers who speak as if their answers to such complex and uncertain problems are unquestionable and who politicize issues like COVID-19 are by definition pseudo-scientists. In fact, the scientific literature (including research from a Nobel Prize winner) shows that individual “experts” are no better than laymen at making quality decisions within systems characterized by complexity and uncertainty.
The pseudo-scientists want to hide this fact. They like to simplify reality by ignoring or hiding the tremendous amount of uncertainty inherent in these models. They do this for many reasons: it’s easier to explain cause/effect relationships, it’s easier to “predict” consequences (that’s why most of their predictions are wrong or always changing), and it’s easier to identify “victims” and “villains.”
They accomplish this by first asking the wrong questions. For COVID-19, the relevant question is not, “How many people will die?” a divisive and impossible question to answer, but “What can we do to avoid, reduce, and mitigate this disease without destroying our economy and civil rights?”
If the Assumptions Are Wrong, Everything Else Is
Secondly, pseudo-scientists hide and ignore the assumptions inherent in these models. The assumptions are the premise of any model; if the assumptions are violated or invalid, the entire model is invalid. Transparency is crucial to a useful model and for building trust among the public. In short, whether a model is useful or useless has more to do with a person’s values than science.
The empirical evidence is clear: what’s really needed is good thinking by actual people, not technology, to identify and choose quality alternatives. Technology will not solve these issues and should only be used as aids and tools (and only if they are transparent and reliable as possible).
What is needed, and what the scientific method has always required but is nowadays often ignored, is what is called multiple working hypotheses. In laymen’s terms, this simply means that we include experts and stakeholders with different perspectives, ideas, and experiences.
Models Cannot Give Answers Alone
The type of modeling that is needed to make quality decisions for the COVID-19 crisis is what we modelers call participatory scenario modeling. This method uses Decision Science tools like Bayesian networks and Multiple Objective Decision Analysis that explicitly link data with the knowledge and opinions of a diverse mix of subject matter experts. The method uses a systems, not a reductionist, approach and seeks to help the decision maker weigh the available options and alternatives.
For COVID-19, we likely need a set of models for medical and economic decisions that augment final decision-support models that help the decision makers weigh their options.
The steps are: frame the question appropriately, develop quality alternatives, evaluate the alternatives, and plan accordingly (i.e., make the decision). The key is participation from a diverse set of subject-matter experts from interdisciplinary backgrounds working together to build scenario models that help decision makers assess the decision options in terms of probability of the possible outcomes.
Certain models, such as COVID-19, require a diverse set of experts, whereas climate change models require participation from stakeholders and experts. The participatory nature of the process makes assumptions more transparent, helps people better understand the issues, and builds trust among competing interests.
For COVID-19, we likely need a set of models for medical and economic decisions that augment final decision-support models that help the decision makers weigh their options. No experienced decision maker would (or should) rely on any one model or any one subject-matter expert when making complex decisions with so much uncertainty and so much at stake.
Pseudo-scientists only allow participation from subject-matter experts who agree with their agenda. In other words, they often rig the participatory models. I’m not saying this is occurring with COVID-19, but it has happened before and could happen again.
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Just shows that those convicts are hard to kill
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Just shows that those convicts are hard to kill
Shows how this thing is not dangerous at all to most people at all.
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Shows how this thing is not dangerous at all to most people at all.
Yeah I turn on the news, and I'm like are they still going on with this shit....
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Shows how this thing is not dangerous at all to most people at all.
Right, but that was true 2 months ago so Im not sure about your big discovery here and how its relevant to anything
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Right, but that was true 2 months ago so Im not sure about your big discovery here and how its relevant to anything
Its simple - most of us have either been exposed or dealt with this. Carrying on with this crap lockdown nonsense is doing far more harm
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Take it EASY there partner. I know youre salty over being stuck at home another month (and counting) but theres no need to be inhospitable. Relax, take a deep breath, and just be glad you didnt die trying to steal a catalytic converter.
Man dies when car he was allegedly trying to steal from falls on top of him
February 22, 2020 at 11:57 PM HST - Updated February 23 at 5:01 AM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (WDAF/CNN) - Police are investigating after a Missouri man was crushed to death by a car while allegedly trying to steal a part from it.
The incident happened Friday morning in a Kansas City, Missouri, parking lot and involved a Toyota Prius. The owner of the Prius, who did not want to be identified, says he was at work when he learned his car had crushed a man.
A person in another vehicle tried to lift the Prius off the man using a jack, according to the car’s owner, but the victim died at the scene.
Authorities say the man was trying to steal the car’s catalytic converter, a device that reduces toxic gases and pollutants from a vehicle’s exhaust system.
James Garten, a service adviser at KC Complete Auto, says Pruis’ catalytic converters contain valuable metals like palladium, rhodium and platinum, and thieves can make a quick buck off them.
“When it comes to catalytic converters being stolen, it’s a common occurrence,” Garten said. “They take them to different scrapyards, and they will scrap them out. Nowadays, a lot of scrapyards will take catalytic converters, but you have to supply thedm with titles.”
I'm neither salty or inhospitable and I'm quite relaxed. I don't know why you don't think it is a fair question. She made a claim that Trump was incompetent and I asked for an example as to why she thinks that.
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Its simple - most of us have either been exposed or dealt with this. Carrying on with this crap lockdown nonsense is doing far more harm
Most haven't.
You can't compare a spread in prison with the outside world.
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Most haven't.
You can't compare a spread in prison with the outside world.
The doom and gloom and we are all gonna die models have not happened.
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Most haven't.
You can't compare a spread in prison with the outside world.
You actually can....
It's a valuable resource in studying the effects of the virus on a population group that's why these types of situations, prisons, cruise ships etc are closely monitored by infectious disease experts.
Why?
It's possible to test the entire population and then from the results extrapolate from that data what may be happening in larger untestable groups... Ie how many people are asymptomatics , how many are immune to infection, a true mortality rate from the group (as you can actually detect all the cases) unlike in the real world ..
You dumb fuck.
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Settle down Penis Lust. I don’t need to explain myself to anybody. It’s a joke that he’s a president. He is a joke. I Hope life is good in Hawaii in isolation? They are lifting some restrictions here in my state on Saturday and it’s so confusing that I wish things would remain in place. It’s just another way to try and issue us with fines.
First off, I will let that personal insult and name calling past this time. I'm trying to avoid getting into the constant shit fest that go on here and me being accused with always fighting with everybody here. So I'll let the first insult pass and mark the point to prove that I am not the one who first resorts to personal insults. But if that is what someone wants then you should know by now that I will go to the death.
There has never been a case that I can remember when someone has a claim or belief in something when the conclusion was arrived at by reason and wasn't ready and eager to explain why they think that way. They are less concerned whether or not you agree but will debate their point.
It is always the case that when a conclusion is reached by feelings that they will avoid explaining how they came to that conclusion because there is none. One feels they can make a claim or accusation and leave it at that. "I don't need to explain myself." And seem almost offended that anyone would even question them. Well then, you don't need to give an opinion either. The main stream media is overwhelming anti-Trump. The sheer hatred is unprecedented and it filters down to the masses who are more concerned with Trump's abrasive and often crass personality than anything he has actually done. They create the "mood" or "impression". Not unlike the " mood" or "impression" many have of you because of the oft repeated story of you being a rat on the other board even though they weren't there to witness it. Or the constant Lee Priest reference. Say it enough and people get an impression.
So perhaps being a woman is relevant in this case because women are far more likely than men to come to conclusions based on feelings rather than reason.
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White House officials say Trump works so hard, he often misses lunch
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Doesn't look like he missed too many lunches.. Check your glasses Mark Meadows, oh yeah first pull your head out of the turd's as*
Some actual fake news
https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/trump-works-so-hard-he-often-misses-lunch-white-house-officials/
President Trump’s schedule is so packed amid the coronavirus crisis that he sometimes skips lunch, his aides told The Post — refuting a report that the commander-in-chief spends his days obsessing over TV coverage and eating fries.
White House staffers said the president works around the clock and can make five dozen work-related calls a day during the pandemic.
“I can tell you that the biggest concern I have as a new chief of staff is making sure he gets some time to get a quick bite to eat,” White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told The Post.
He said Trump recently called him at 3:19 a.m. He wasn’t expecting the call and was asleep when the phone rang.
“I can tell you that he will go back in and have a lunch just off the Oval Office and more times than not it is interrupted by several phone calls,” Meadows said. “If he gets more than 10 minutes of time in a given day, I haven’t seen in the five weeks I’ve been here.”
A different White House official said Trump some days doesn’t eat lunch.
“There are times when lunch isn’t even a thought,” the official said. “A lot of time there’s either no time for lunch or there is 10 minutes for lunch.”
An account in the New York Times that claimed Trump lingers in his bedroom as late as noon infuriated the president, who tweeted Sunday, “I will often be in the Oval Office late into the night & read & see that I am angrily eating a hamburger & Diet Coke in my bedroom.”
“I work from early in the morning until late at night,” the president tweeted.
Another White House official provided The Post with data on recent presidential phone calls, which they said attest to his packed schedule.
On Wednesday, Trump made about two dozen morning calls starting with a conversation around 6:30 a.m. with Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, according to the official.
Enlarge ImageUS Secretary of the Treasury Steve Mnuchin speaks while US president Donald Trump listens
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin speaks while President Trump listens.Getty Images
On Thursday morning, Trump made 18 work-related calls from his private quarters, including four to foreign leaders, which can be lengthy due to translation and a broad range of topics. On Friday, he began the day with another four calls with foreign leaders.
Trump returned to the White House residence at 9 p.m. Wednesday and Thursday, according to the official. On Thursday night, he made 11 work calls. On Wednesday night, he was calling until 11:30 p.m. and spoke with a governor, a senator and a congressman.
Trump has meetings and calls during his time in the Oval Office. On Thursday, he took nearly three dozen calls.
“He’ll call up until late evening or midnight on a fairly regular basis,” Meadows said.
At night, “normally he will get six or seven calls from members [of Congress] or business leaders or community leaders, so oftentimes what he will do is go up to the residence and have the White House operator literally do back-to-back calls,” Meadows said.
If Trump has something on his mind, he prefers to call right away. “When he calls in the evening or the early morning, it’s really with a pressing issue that demands immediate action,” Meadows said.
Enlarge ImageActing White House Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows
Acting White House chief of staff Mark MeadowsGetty Images
Morning phone calls from the residence are routine for Trump.
“I get phone calls from him early in the morning and at the end of the day,” said Peter Navarro, director of the White House Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy.
“I think I work hard. I put in probably 12-hour days seven days a week and he runs circles around all of us,” Navarro said. “He never seems to tire. So this idea that he’s not working hard is just so absurd. Note to the New York Times: Spending time in the morning reading all of the material that’s given to him by his staff secretary, as well as virtually all of the newspapers, that’s work. That’s not kicking back with a croissant.”
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Trump largely has been confined to the White House since COVID-19 triggered widespread business closures and halted his extensive travel. Now, public engagements are limited to press briefings and less frequent televised pool sprays with reporters in the West Wing and on the White House grounds.
Officials don’t dispute that Trump often has a TV screen on during the day, but said that’s a reasonable thing to do. They also do not deny that the president powers through the day on Diet Coke.
Trump monitoring TV news coverage “is like a linebacker watching tape,” the first official said. “How else are we going to know what’s being said and what’s being reported out there?”
Trump’s schedule generally is grueling for reporters and officials whose personal lives are tied to his activities. On Easter, for example, Trump was working in the Oval Office to broker an oil production agreement between Saudi Arabia and Russia.
“We watch him work and work and work, and we get frustrated by the inaccurate coverage, which does not reflect the hard work and leadership we witness every day,” the second official said.
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I am not going to explain my reasons for strongly disliking Trump. Because I am the only female around these parts of the woods, it doesn’t mean you can use me to derail this thread. I know you are bored but I suggest you start taking some arimidex again. I am going to cook dinner and watch some Netflix.
Who cares what you think about Trump, lol. Your own country is being bitch slapped by China. It'll be interesting to see if you all fold under threats from the scary CCP.
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You actually can....
It's a valuable resource in studying the effects of the virus on a population group that's why these types of situations, prisons, cruise ships etc are closely monitored by infectious disease experts.
Why?
It's possible to test the entire population and then from the results extrapolate from that data what may be happening in larger untestable groups... Ie how many people are asymptomatics , how many are immune to infection, a true mortality rate from the group (as you can actually detect all the cases) unlike in the real world ..
You dumb fuck.
But not the spread, which was what we were discussing.
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Money paper and coins are so laden with germs, there is no way you'd want to handle it right now. Plastic requires minimal touching and the scanner and stylist can be disinfected between users. This is what is happening at the grocery stores in my town. COVID-19 will probably change how commerce is conducted forever.
Yesterday, I wanted a Subway sandwich. The ordering, delivery and transaction involved a minimal of human contact. Ordered and paid for it online, picked it up at the store at the scheduled time. Signed the receipt with my own pen. When I got home I unwrapped it onto a plate and then washed my hands really well before eating it. The store clerks make the sandwich wearing disposable gloves. The opportunity for a transfer of germs was almost totally minimized.
Silly old fart, like no one else would do that !. Worthless blah-blah-blah........................................
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I am so not an adopted American that your comments cracked me up.
Ever hear of the SAR (Sons of the American Revolution)? Probably not. My grandfather was a member which means if I wanted, I could be a member. So no there are no photos of me in the 3rd Reich. Which by the way was from 1933 until the end of World War II in Europe on May 8, 1945 and not the dates you claimed. At that time i was not yet a year old.
You fixed nothing because it was never broken. Guess history isn't your strong suit, huh?
So you didn't live in Deutschland in 1948 (with your uncle) & attend French/English school !.
Your memory really sucks !.
REREAD your own writings , stupid old fart.
You also didn't plan to kill yourself before Christmas 2019 ::)
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I am not going to explain my reasons for strongly disliking Trump. Because I am the only female around these parts of the woods, it doesn’t mean you can use me to derail this thread. I know you are bored but I suggest you start taking some arimidex again. I am going to cook dinner and watch some Netflix.
& I am the only male around these parts of the woods* who saw you naked in the Picture magz ;D
What was yours ''Artistic" name !
(* GetBig )
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Prime has given many reasons for disliking Trump.
But I am not asking you that. I thought my question was very specific. What specific examples can you give of Trump's incompetence? What he actually did and what you think he should have done. A specific example. Not just saying "he was slow to act on the coronavirus." What he actually did and what you think he should have done?
Names of super incompentent Australian Prime Ministers:
- Kevin Rudd (Chinese lover)
- Julia Gillard (buddy of Hillary)
- Malcolm Turnbull (+ $ 300 millions 'socialist')
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Who cares what you think about Trump, lol. Your own country is being bitch slapped by China. It'll be interesting to see if you all fold under threats from the scary CCP.
Australia is doing well in comparison to other countries.
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I am not going to explain my reasons for strongly disliking Trump. Because I am the only female around these parts of the woods, it doesn’t mean you can use me to derail this thread. I know you are bored but I suggest you start taking some arimidex again. I am going to cook dinner and watch some Netflix.
fxed
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Shows how this thing is not dangerous at all to most people at all.
Are you suggesting the leadership of countries from all over the world are fabricating the numbers? Why would they do this. What do they have to gain from it? It may not be dangerous to a lot of people, but it is deadly to many.
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President’s intelligence briefing book repeatedly cited virus threat
The word "intelligence" must have repulsed the orange turd
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J2uUVWo7eBo/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/presidents-intelligence-briefing-book-repeatedly-cited-virus-threat/ar-BB13hFnC
U.S. intelligence agencies issued warnings about the novel coronavirus in more than a dozen classified briefings prepared for President Trump in January and February, months during which he continued to play down the threat, according to current and former U.S. officials.
a person sitting in front of a door: President Trump delivers a television national address on the coronavirus pandemic from the Oval Office on March 11.© Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post President Trump delivers a television national address on the coronavirus pandemic from the Oval Office on March 11.
The repeated warnings were conveyed in issues of the President’s Daily Brief, a sensitive report that is produced before dawn each day and designed to call the president’s attention to the most significant global developments and security threats.
For weeks, the PDB — as the report is known — traced the virus’s spread around the globe, made clear that China was suppressing information about the contagion’s transmissibility and lethal toll, and raised the prospect of dire political and economic consequences.
But the alarms appear to have failed to register with the president, who routinely skips reading the PDB and has at times shown little patience for even the oral summary he takes two or three times per week, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified material.
The advisories being relayed by U.S. spy agencies were part of a broader collection of worrisome signals that came during a period now regarded by many public health officials and other experts as a squandered opportunity to contain the outbreak.
As of Monday, more than 55,000 people in the United States had died of covid-19.
The frequency with which the coronavirus was mentioned in the PDB has not been previously reported, and U.S. officials said it reflected a level of attention comparable to periods when analysts have been tracking active terrorism threats, overseas conflicts or other rapidly developing security issues.
A White House spokesman disputed the characterization that Trump was slow to respond to the virus threat. “President Trump rose to fight this crisis head-on by taking early, aggressive historic action to protect the health, wealth and well-being of the American people,” said spokesman Hogan Gidley. “We will get through this difficult time and defeat this virus because of his decisive leadership.”
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence is responsible for the PDB. In response to questions about the repeated mentions of coronavirus, a DNI official said, “The detail of this is not true.” The official declined to explain or elaborate.
U.S. officials emphasized that the PDB references to the virus included comprehensive articles on aspects of the global outbreak, but also smaller digest items meant to keep Trump and senior administration officials updated on the course of the contagion. Versions of the PDB are also shared with Cabinet secretaries and other high-ranking U.S. officials.
One official said that by mid- to late January the coronavirus was being mentioned more frequently, either as one of the report’s core articles or in what is known as an “executive update,” and that it was almost certainly called to Trump’s attention orally.
The administration’s first major step to arrest the spread of the virus came in late January, when Trump restricted travel between the United States and China, where the virus is believed to have originated late last year.
But Trump spent much of February publicly playing down the threat while his administration failed to mobilize for a major outbreak by securing supplies of protective equipment, developing an effective diagnostic test and preparing plans to quarantine large portions of the population.
Trump insisted publicly on Feb. 26 that the number of cases “within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,” and said the next day that “it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
In reality, the virus was by then moving swiftly through communities across the United States, spreading virtually unchecked in New York City and other population centers until state governors began imposing sweeping lockdowns, requiring social distancing and all but closing huge sectors of the country’s economy.
As late as March 10, Trump said: “Just stay calm. It will go away.” The next day, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a global pandemic.
By then, officials said, the warnings in the PDB and other intelligence reports had taken on the aspect of an insistent drumbeat. The first mention of the coronavirus in the PDB came at the beginning of January, focusing on what at that point were troubling signs of a new virus spreading through the Chinese city of Wuhan, and the Chinese government’s apparent efforts to conceal details of the outbreak.
In the ensuing weeks, U.S. intelligence agencies devoted additional resources and departments to tracking the spread of the coronavirus. At the CIA, the effort involved agency centers on China, Europe and Latin America, as well as departments devoted to transnational health threats, officials said.
The preliminary intelligence on the coronavirus was fragmentary, and did not address the prospects of a severe outbreak in the United States.
U.S. intelligence officials, citing scientific evidence, have largely dismissed the notion that the virus was deliberately genetically engineered. But they are continuing to examine whether the virus somehow escaped a virology lab in Wuhan, where research on naturally occurring coronaviruses has been conducted.
“We’re looking at it very closely, but we just don’t know,” said one senior U.S. intelligence official.
The warnings conveyed in the PDB probably will be a focus of any future investigation of the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic. Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, in early April called for the formation of an independent commission analogous to the one created to investigate the Sept, 11, 2001, attacks.
In response to that probe, the George W. Bush administration was pressured to declassify portions of the PDB from August 2001 — a month before 9/11 — warning that al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was “determined to strike in U.S.”
Senior officials with direct knowledge of Trump’s intelligence briefings say that Trump listens and asks questions during the sessions. “We go in and he treats us with respect,” one senior official said.
But Trump has also been combative or dismissive toward U.S. intelligence agencies throughout his presidency.
In mid-February, as the pathogen was spreading, Trump fired acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire after learning that a senior analyst had briefed members of Congress that Russia was seeking to interfere in the 2020 presidential election and had “developed a preference” for Trump.
Officials have noted that Trump was also contending with the Senate impeachment trial in January and focused on other security issues, including tracking Iran’s response to a Jan. 3 U.S. airstrike that killed a top Iranian commander, Qasem Soleimani, in Baghdad.
David Priess, a former CIA officer who was a PDB briefer in the George W. Bush administration, said that even if Trump is ignoring his briefing book, other officials including national security adviser Robert O’Brien are probably digesting the material and interacting with Trump daily.
O’Brien’s deputy, Matthew Pottinger, has a background in intelligence and was among a small circle of senior officials urging early action to contain the coronavirus, U.S. officials said. Pottinger pushed to close off air travel from Europe in February, officials said, but Trump did not do so until mid-March.
“The fact that [Trump] gets only two or three briefings a week from the intelligence professionals doesn’t mean that’s the only exposure to the PDB he’s getting,” Priess said. “He can get the best intelligence in the world and still not make good decisions based on it.”
Priess, author of a book on intelligence briefings for presidents, said that Trump’s predecessors have been varied in their approaches to consuming intelligence. President Barack Obama was considered an avid reader of “the book,” which was prepared for him on a specially equipped computer tablet. President George W. Bush reviewed the highlights of the PDB and often discussed its contents at length with his briefer. President Richard M. Nixon likely didn’t read the PDB, Priess said, but was extensively briefed by his national security adviser, Henry Kissinger.
Trump’s top health officials and advisers were also delivering warnings on the coronavirus through January and February, though their messages at times appeared muddled and contradictory.
On Feb. 25, Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warned publicly that virus was spreading so rapidly that “we need to be prepared for significant disruption in our lives.”
Trump, traveling in India at the time, was outraged by what he regarded as the alarmist tone of her remarks and their perceived impact on the U.S. stock market.
Two days later, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar testified before a Congressional committee that the risk to the public remained “low,” and that the coronavirus would “look and feel to the American people more like a severe flu season in terms of the interventions and approaches you will see.”
On March 11, with cases surging in New York and the stock market plummeting, Trump declared a national emergency and announced a ban on travel from Europe, which had become the new epicenter of the outbreak.
greg.miller@washpost.com
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Australia is doing well in comparison to other countries.
So no specific examples as to why you think Trump is incompetent? Not one.
Well, your nonanswer answers my question and my speculation as to why you have come to this conclusion.
It reminds me when I would ask someone why they think Obama or Clinton was such a good president or why Bush was so bad? And they would just say, "Oh, come on?" As if their belief was such common knowledge that it is ridiculous to even suggest otherwise when the real reason was that they had no reason. Again, I've never known of a case when some had arrived at a conclusion through rigorous reason and contemplation that wasn't willing and eager to share their thought process. Why go through all the trouble but just keep your ideas to yourself? It is never the case when their conclusions are purely based on feelings. It's always just "Oh, come on!" or "I don't need to explain myself" as if the whole world should just take them at their word based on no evidence presented. The fact is they just found Obama and Clinton far more likable than Bush and not based on any tangible evidence. Such as your opinion of Trump and just following and jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon by what you hear from others, i.e., the vast majority of the MSM.
When I was asked why I thought Hillary was incompetent and too corrupt to be President I cited the tragic handling and resulting deaths in the Benghazi incident and the emails and physically destroying the hard disks. You can disagree with my line of reasoning but it is not based on personal feelings pro or con regarding Hillary but based on actual facts that occurred. Compare that with how Trump reacted to the exact same situation, the EXACT SAME INCIDENT, when the Embassy was attacked in Baghdad. He immediately sent in the Marines and crushed that attack with no American casualties. No pussy-footing around or worrying about what the "International Community" would think, which, of course, they condemned. His concern was for American lives not what it would do to his reputation. And he didn't stopped there but continued to target, and kill, the leaders behind this movement and then accused as being just an assassin.
I remember how Nixon was blasted for being an anti-Semite because of recordings they had of him making racist and anti-Semitic remarks in private. And this is the same President who hired Jews to prominent positions, including Henry Kissinger, and literally saved Israel with military support during the Yom Kippur war. All that they ignored because they wanted just another reason to hate Nixon.
I always try to judge people not so much as what they say or what I think their motivations are since I can't read minds, but always by their actions. Remember when ISIS dominated the news during the Obama era just conquering and conquering at will and it was predicted to drag on for many years if not decades? When Trump took over he took off the gloves and crushed them inside a year. That was huge. Huge. But quickly forgotten, and perhaps never known by most, maybe even you, as it didn't really affect you personally and wasn't really covered in the news or give Trump any credit. It dominated the news daily and all of sudden it was gone. Innocent lives being slaughter for their religion. And they were not slaughtered in a humane way. They may be nobodies to you but they, like you, had parents, brothers, sisters, children, and friends. They weren't just nobodies and could have been saved if the present administration at the time acted more like the cantankerous, crude, impatient, but resolute Trump whose first priority was American lives.
You may not like Trump personally and find him repulsive but if it wasn't for him we would still have more scenes like this:
(https://www.memri.org/images/big_report/section1/222_htm_me28af70.jpg)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IRAN-PIC-MUZZED-2.jpg)
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140615125244-isis-0615-story-top.jpeg)
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The Way the U.S. is Counting Wuhan Coronavirus Deaths Seems Problematic
Townhall ^ | 04/08/2020 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 4/8/2020, 10:00:23 AM by SeekAndFind
During the White House Wuhan coronavirus task force briefing Tuesday evening, Dr. Deborah Birx said the United States has taken a "liberal approach" in the way doctors classify deaths from the virus.
"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," Birx said. "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."
Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
I've heard this said before. If this is really happening on a large scale [and not just rarely, or by accident], then that is definitely problematic.
Another thing to consider:
The COVID deaths we are seeing are deaths from a virus that currently has no vaccine, whereas the deaths from the flu are deaths that would otherwise be much higher if no vaccine existed. So comparing the death counts of each is not an apples to apples comparison.
That being said, the COVID deaths are also at their current number with large scale lock downs in place, and perhaps the COVID deaths would be significantly higher without said measures. We won't be able to adequately measure this until more time passes and we have more data to analyze. I still think this virus is being blown out of proportion.
As far as I can tell, those dying under 70 of this virus generally have preexisting conditions. I'm not yet convinced that COVID is a major risk for the younger segment of the population, or people who are healthy, with strong immune systems, who are not obese, who do not smoke, etc.
But seriously [back to the original point] - if people who die WITH COVID are all being classified as dying FROM COVID, that is extremely disingenuous, and needs to be accounted for in future analyses of the true mortality rate of this virus.
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The flu vaccine is generally about 50% effective.
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Can we have less text please.
A lot of people are online during these isolation times and we need to save on bandwith. Try to get your point across in 300 characters or less. Thank you.
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So no specific examples as to why you think Trump is incompetent? Not one.
Well, your nonanswer answers my question and my speculation as to why you have come to this conclusion.
It reminds me when I would ask someone why they think Obama or Clinton was such a good president or why Bush was so bad? And they would just say, "Oh, come on?" As if their belief was such common knowledge that it is ridiculous to even suggest otherwise when the real reason was that they had no reason. Again, I've never known of a case when some had arrived at a conclusion through rigorous reason and contemplation that wasn't willing and eager to share their thought process. Why go through all the trouble but just keep your ideas to yourself? It is never the case when their conclusions are purely based on feelings. It's always just "Oh, come on!" or "I don't need to explain myself" as if the whole world should just take them at their word based on no evidence presented. The fact is they just found Obama and Clinton far more likable than Bush and not based on any tangible evidence. Such as your opinion of Trump and just following and jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon by what you hear from others, i.e., the vast majority of the MSM.
When I was asked why I thought Hillary was incompetent and too corrupt to be President I cited the tragic handling and resulting deaths in the Benghazi incident and the emails and physically destroying the hard disks. You can disagree with my line of reasoning but it is not based on personal feelings pro or con regarding Hillary but based on actual facts that occurred. Compare that with how Trump reacted to the exact same situation, the EXACT SAME INCIDENT, when the Embassy was attacked in Baghdad. He immediately sent in the Marines and crushed that attack with no American casualties. No pussy-footing around or worrying about what the "International Community" would think, which, of course, they condemned. His concern was for American lives not what it would do to his reputation. And he didn't stopped there but continued to target, and kill, the leaders behind this movement and then accused as being just an assassin.
I remember how Nixon was blasted for being an anti-Semite because of recordings they had of him making racist and anti-Semitic remarks in private. And this is the same President who hired Jews to prominent positions, including Henry Kissinger, and literally saved Israel with military support during the Yom Kippur war. All that they ignored because they wanted just another reason to hate Nixon.
I always try to judge people not so much as what they say or what I think their motivations are since I can't read minds, but always by their actions. Remember when ISIS dominated the news during the Obama era just conquering and conquering at will and it was predicted to drag on for many years if not decades? When Trump took over he took off the gloves and crushed them inside a year. That was huge. Huge. But quickly forgotten, and perhaps never known by most, maybe even you, as it didn't really affect you personally and wasn't really covered in the news or give Trump any credit. It dominated the news daily and all of sudden it was gone. Innocent lives being slaughter for their religion. And they were not slaughtered in a humane way. They may be nobodies to you but they, like you, had parents, brothers, sisters, children, and friends. They weren't just nobodies and could have been saved if the present administration at the time acted more like the cantankerous, crude, impatient, but resolute Trump whose first priority was American lives.
You may not like Trump personally and find him repulsive but if it wasn't for him we would still have more scenes like this:
(https://www.memri.org/images/big_report/section1/222_htm_me28af70.jpg)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IRAN-PIC-MUZZED-2.jpg)
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140615125244-isis-0615-story-top.jpeg)
Great post.
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What's going on on this thread?
Looks like a "holy wall of text" lovers convention
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No idea what theyre doing, Im reading none of it.
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and a link.
just what we need, more links.
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and a link.
just what we need, more links.
I posted the thing of joe rogan on youtube - using new website. Maybe its a glitch.
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Can we have less text please.
A lot of people are online during these isolation times and we need to save on bandwith. Try to get your point across in 300 characters or less. Thank you.
does this mean you are no longer going to spam the board with dead-end threads and dopy pictures?
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does this mean you are no longer going to spam the board with dead-end threads and dopy pictures?
Is it me doing this or is this someone else doing this that you think is me? It gets confusing sometimes when people think I am this person or that person
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Like I said several days ago, don't sell the middle seat for now. JetBlue gets the idea. Masks and gloves are mando. I should be in Washington running this sh!t ::)
JetBlue becomes first airline to require passengers to wear masks
JetBlue on Monday became the first airline to announce that all passengers will have to wear a face covering on flights.
Starting May 4, passengers will be required to wear a mask that covers their nose and mouth during the duration of each flight and also during check-in, boarding and deplaning, according to a JetBlue statement.
"We are also asking our customers to follow these CDC guidelines in the airport as well," said Joanna Geraghty, the airline's president and chief operating officer. “Wearing a face covering isn’t about protecting yourself; it’s about protecting those around you.”
The airline has already started requiring flight crew members to wear face coverings on the job.
JetBlue customers will be reminded by email and at the airport to wear a mask. Small children who can't keep a mask on are exempt.
Since late March, JetBlue has reduced the number of seats available on flights so that passengers and crew are able to spread out.
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Is it we are doing this or is this someone else doing this that you think is us? It gets confusing sometimes when people think we am this person or that person
must be a bitch managing multiple identities
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Instead, because the dumb baby couldn't read his briefing books we have scenes like this:
(https://www.fosters.com/storyimage/FD/20191118/NEWS/191119664/AR/0/AR-191119664.jpg)
(https://e3.365dm.com/20/04/768x432/skynews-wyckoff-hospital-body_4963149.jpg?20200406081920)
In trump world
60,000 < 4
"I take no responsibility" < " Benghazi - oh my god , I'm outraged! "
GOP voters aren't very smart.
So no specific examples as to why you think Trump is incompetent? Not one.
Well, your nonanswer answers my question and my speculation as to why you have come to this conclusion.
It reminds me when I would ask someone why they think Obama or Clinton was such a good president or why Bush was so bad? And they would just say, "Oh, come on?" As if their belief was such common knowledge that it is ridiculous to even suggest otherwise when the real reason was that they had no reason. Again, I've never known of a case when some had arrived at a conclusion through rigorous reason and contemplation that wasn't willing and eager to share their thought process. Why go through all the trouble but just keep your ideas to yourself? It is never the case when their conclusions are purely based on feelings. It's always just "Oh, come on!" or "I don't need to explain myself" as if the whole world should just take them at their word based on no evidence presented. The fact is they just found Obama and Clinton far more likable than Bush and not based on any tangible evidence. Such as your opinion of Trump and just following and jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon by what you hear from others, i.e., the vast majority of the MSM.
When I was asked why I thought Hillary was incompetent and too corrupt to be President I cited the tragic handling and resulting deaths in the Benghazi incident and the emails and physically destroying the hard disks. You can disagree with my line of reasoning but it is not based on personal feelings pro or con regarding Hillary but based on actual facts that occurred. Compare that with how Trump reacted to the exact same situation, the EXACT SAME INCIDENT, when the Embassy was attacked in Baghdad. He immediately sent in the Marines and crushed that attack with no American casualties. No pussy-footing around or worrying about what the "International Community" would think, which, of course, they condemned. His concern was for American lives not what it would do to his reputation. And he didn't stopped there but continued to target, and kill, the leaders behind this movement and then accused as being just an assassin.
I remember how Nixon was blasted for being an anti-Semite because of recordings they had of him making racist and anti-Semitic remarks in private. And this is the same President who hired Jews to prominent positions, including Henry Kissinger, and literally saved Israel with military support during the Yom Kippur war. All that they ignored because they wanted just another reason to hate Nixon.
I always try to judge people not so much as what they say or what I think their motivations are since I can't read minds, but always by their actions. Remember when ISIS dominated the news during the Obama era just conquering and conquering at will and it was predicted to drag on for many years if not decades? When Trump took over he took off the gloves and crushed them inside a year. That was huge. Huge. But quickly forgotten, and perhaps never known by most, maybe even you, as it didn't really affect you personally and wasn't really covered in the news or give Trump any credit. It dominated the news daily and all of sudden it was gone. Innocent lives being slaughter for their religion. And they were not slaughtered in a humane way. They may be nobodies to you but they, like you, had parents, brothers, sisters, children, and friends. They weren't just nobodies and could have been saved if the present administration at the time acted more like the cantankerous, crude, impatient, but resolute Trump whose first priority was American lives.
You may not like Trump personally and find him repulsive but if it wasn't for him we would still have more scenes like this:
(https://www.memri.org/images/big_report/section1/222_htm_me28af70.jpg)
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IRAN-PIC-MUZZED-2.jpg)
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140615125244-isis-0615-story-top.jpeg)
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Who would you rather see than Trump, Dearth?
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The flu vaccine is generally about 50% effective.
That's because their are several different flus around and the vaccine doesn't cover them all.
This shouldn't be the case with covid, but let's just say I won't be in any rush to get a covid vaccine and I lean more towards pro vaccine normally.
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As long as the vaccine is sugar free zero calories
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Can we have less text please.
A lot of people are online during these isolation times and we need to save on bandwith. Try to get your point across in 300 characters or less. Thank you.
Good point. I will try to keep this in mind. Being concise has not been my strong suit, (85 characters).
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Good point. I will try to keep this in mind. Being concise has not been my strong suit, (85 characters).
You write some good stuff Prime. But no one has an attention span past 3 sentences anymore- a lesson I learned from writing on the net, haha.
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You write some good stuff Prime. But no one has an attention span past 3 sentences anymore- a lesson I learned from writing on the net, haha.
That is sad. Twitter is partially to blame.
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I've heard this said before. If this is really happening on a large scale [and not just rarely, or by accident], then that is definitely problematic.
Another thing to consider:
The COVID deaths we are seeing are deaths from a virus that currently has no vaccine, whereas the deaths from the flu are deaths that would otherwise be much higher if no vaccine existed. So comparing the death counts of each is not an apples to apples comparison.
That being said, the COVID deaths are also at their current number with large scale lock downs in place, and perhaps the COVID deaths would be significantly higher without said measures. We won't be able to adequately measure this until more time passes and we have more data to analyze. I still think this virus is being blown out of proportion.
As far as I can tell, those dying under 70 of this virus generally have preexisting conditions. I'm not yet convinced that COVID is a major risk for the younger segment of the population, or people who are healthy, with strong immune systems, who are not obese, who do not smoke, etc.
But seriously [back to the original point] - if people who die WITH COVID are all being classified as dying FROM COVID, that is extremely disingenuous, and needs to be accounted for in future analyses of the true mortality rate of this virus.
That reminds me of the saying "All men will die with prostate cancer, but not all men die from prostate cancer".
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That reminds me of the saying "All men will die with prostate cancer, but not all men die from prostate cancer".
Interesting saying if not strictly accurate. Some of us lucky guys whose prostate cancer is detected early on and who elect to have a radical prostatectomy become prostate cancer free. So unless I grow a replacement prostate, I will die sans prostate cancer.
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Let the good times roll. Open up those beaches and packed, shoulder to shoulder house parties. 1st World amenities, 3rd World mindset. ::)
Confirmed coronavirus cases in U.S. double to 1 million in less than 3 weeks
The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States surpassed 1 million on Tuesday, more than doubling in less than three weeks, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
The U.S., home to about 4% of the global population, has reported about one-third of the world’s more than 3 million known coronavirus infections. The first known cases of the virus in China began appearing in December. It took nearly four months for the number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to hit 500,000 on April 10.
Of the more than 213,000 people who have died of COVID-19 worldwide, roughly 25% ― or about 57,000 deaths ― have occurred in the United States.
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That's because their are several different flus around and the vaccine doesn't cover them all.
This shouldn't be the case with covid, but let's just say I won't be in any rush to get a covid vaccine and I lean more towards pro vaccine normally.
Heard something about over 40 covid mutations already.
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Let the good times roll. Open up those beaches and packed, shoulder to shoulder house parties. 1st World amenities, 3rd World mindset. ::)
Confirmed coronavirus cases in U.S. double to 1 million in less than 3 weeks
The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States surpassed 1 million on Tuesday, more than doubling in less than three weeks, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
The U.S., home to about 4% of the global population, has reported about one-third of the world’s more than 3 million known coronavirus infections. The first known cases of the virus in China began appearing in December. It took nearly four months for the number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to hit 500,000 on April 10.
Of the more than 213,000 people who have died of COVID-19 worldwide, roughly 25% ― or about 57,000 deaths ― have occurred in the United States.
thats because they have tested people, if you don't mass test (UK) then you have no idea how many people have got or had the virus
UK may have 10 million people infected with no symptoms, until people get tested its all speculation
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https://washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history
Biggest Hoax in History
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https://washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history
Biggest Hoax in History
I agree.
Trump needs to stop listening to Fauci.
He is going to go down if he doesn't.
Enough.
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I agree.
Trump needs to stop listening to Fauci.
He is going to go down if he doesn't.
Enough.
Fauci is just a front man, a government shill. It was never about the virus and Trump knows it.
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history/
And this: “When I’m writing up my death report I’m being pressured to add COVID. Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add COVID? To maybe increase the numbers, and make it look a little bit worse than it is. We’re being pressured in-house to add COVID to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not COVID, but it’s being reported as one of the diseases processes. … COVID didn’t kill them, 25 years of tobacco use killed.”
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THIS is what it’s about:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/boj-ramps-up-stimulus-with-pledge-for-unlimited-bond-buying
The central bank promised to buy as many government bonds as needed and more than doubled its buying of corporate debt, as Governor Haruhiko Kuroda tried to show the BOJ was pulling its weight in national efforts to support struggling factory owners, shopkeepers and consumers.
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Instead, because the dumb baby couldn't read his briefing books we have scenes like this:
(https://www.fosters.com/storyimage/FD/20191118/NEWS/191119664/AR/0/AR-191119664.jpg)
(https://e3.365dm.com/20/04/768x432/skynews-wyckoff-hospital-body_4963149.jpg?20200406081920)
In trump world
60,000 < 4
"I take no responsibility" < " Benghazi - oh my god , I'm outraged! "
GOP voters aren't very smart.
So the coronavirus was Trump's fault.
And you wonder why you have no credibility here and people just mock you?
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Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.
America's response is a disgrace. Cowards telling other cowards to hide under their bed.
I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being.
Cowards!
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Hawaii, tragically, reported another death from the coronavirus. The now-deceased person had been hospitalized since March 1st and was 65 years old with a number of preexisting conditions. This marks the total death rate to ten for the island since all this began. Again, that's a grand total of ten deaths. The island averages about 10 deaths per day in traffic fatalities alone. Again, 10 deaths a day from driving, and not 10 deaths in two months from the virus. In addition, of all that have contracted the disease, less than 1/10th of one percent of the population, more than 80% have recovered.
Governor Ige has now extended the lockdown for another month to June 1st in which "we will reevaluate". Meanwhile, a long time local drive-in since the early 1950s, Likelike Drive-in (pronounced: Lee-kay Lee-kay, after a Hawaiian princess) and considered by locals as a historic mainstay has been forced to shut it's doors forever. A charming family business that's been around for 70 years. A business that one family built and maintained for many decades and help raise and educate four generations
now gone forever. A family legacy destroyed.
This is just one of many such stories caused by government officials who are still getting regular and generous paychecks still being paid for by the taxpayers who are no longer getting paid. But it's the one death by a 65-year-old man who was in poor health to begin with that gets front-page news.
But Hawaii will keep electing Left-wing Democrats and keep the Socialist in power.
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The Left/Right divide is about 50/50. I really wish we could find a way to separate the country and have each side go there own way and live according to the political divide wishing each other well with no hard feelings.
One side can give their money to the government and let the government decide how they should live, and the other have more freedom but be responsible for their actions and the consequences whether good or bad and not demand others bail them out. A world where the streets are littered with homeless bums living off food stamps and welfare paid for by others, crapping and pissing on the streets, and harassing and demanding their QP with cheese, or a world where such behaviors merits an on the spot ass-kicking.
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Hawaii, tragically, reported another death from the coronavirus. The now-deceased person had been hospitalized since March 1st and was 65 years old with a number of preexisting conditions. This marks the total death rate to ten for the island since all this began. Again, that's a grand total of ten deaths. The island averages about 10 deaths per day in traffic fatalities alone. Again, 10 deaths a day from driving, and not 10 deaths in two months from the virus. In addition, of all that have contracted the disease, less than 1/10th of one percent of the population, more than 80% have recovered.
Governor Ige has now extended the lockdown for another month to June 1st in which "we will reevaluate". Meanwhile, a long time local drive-in since the early 1950s, Likelike Drive-in (pronounced: Lee-kay Lee-kay, after a Hawaiian princess) and considered by locals as a historic mainstay has been forced to shut it's doors forever. A charming family business that's been around for 70 years. A business that one family built and maintained for many decades and help raise and educate four generations
now gone forever. A family legacy destroyed.
This is just one of many such stories caused by government officials who are still getting regular and generous paychecks still being paid for by the taxpayers who are no longer getting paid. But it's the one death by a 65-year-old man who was in poor health to begin with that gets front-page news.
But Hawaii will keep electing Left-wing Democrats and keep the Socialist in power.
10 or so deaths in 2 months Lockdown- Multiple deaths every day from traffic accidents & Nothing
Something seriously wrong going on - Stop The Lockdown Nonsense across the globe it’s utterly Ridiculous - We’re all going to Die some young some old some seemingly fit & well & some not so
That’s Life Let’s Get On with it & Enjoy everyday we can.
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The Left/Right divide is about 50/50. I really wish we could find a way to separate the country and have each side go there own way and live according to the political divide wishing each other well with no hard feelings.
One side can give their money to the government and let the government decide how they should live, and the other have more freedom but be responsible for their actions and the consequences whether good or bad and not demand others bail them out. A world where the streets are littered with homeless bums living off food stamps and welfare paid for by others, crapping and pissing on the streets, and harassing and demanding their QP with cheese, or a world where such behaviors merits an on the spot ass-kicking.
Yes that would be great - only one lot of the 50% would want to either move over or the other 50% to Help them out - when they’ve given all their money away the streets are Full of Crap & Piss & are Totally unsafe - Murderers, Rapists, Paedophiles Free to Roam around As they Have to be Understood & Listened to.... Similar to many of The Islamic indoctrination of Peace once they’ve totally Fcuked up their own country they’re off to find a Better place to Live & Gradually Fcuk that up also if they’re not rigidly kept in check.
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A lot of those Jewish fellows are old. Lets check back in 2-3 weeks.
Jews Above Law or maybe they sip Kosher Purple Drink with the kids in Detroit.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/29/close-to-2500-crowd-brooklyn-streets-for-funeral-of-rabbi-who-died-of-coronavirus/24140234/ (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/29/close-to-2500-crowd-brooklyn-streets-for-funeral-of-rabbi-who-died-of-coronavirus/24140234/)
We're looking at over 2 mil by the end of May.
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I’d be interested in a further breakdown of the statistics. We know men succumb to this more than women and that’s because men on average die younger and are more prone to the primary causes of mortality: heart disease, cancer, diabetes etc. I bet the average age woman corona fatality is over 80 and not a single woman under 50 without a pre-existing condition has died.
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Where are the bodies?
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Instead, because the dumb baby couldn't read his briefing books we have scenes like this:
(https://www.fosters.com/storyimage/FD/20191118/NEWS/191119664/AR/0/AR-191119664.jpg)
(https://e3.365dm.com/20/04/768x432/skynews-wyckoff-hospital-body_4963149.jpg?20200406081920)
In trump world
60,000 < 4
"I take no responsibility" < " Benghazi - oh my god , I'm outraged! "
GOP voters aren't very smart.
Is this the Dem's solution to the homelessness problems they helped to exasperate?
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Never mind the homeless
Whatabout the homoless?
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(https://www.fosters.com/storyimage/FD/20191118/NEWS/191119664/AR/0/AR-191119664.jpg)
Pellius wet dream.
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Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.
America's response is a disgrace. Cowards telling other cowards to hide under their bed.
I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being.
Cowards!
This is the sad state of our country. Weak mental midgets.
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Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.
America's response is a disgrace. Cow Nards telling other cowards to hide under their bed.
I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being.
Cowards!
Thank you for your sacrifice. Now put the fork down fatso
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Thank you for your sacrifice. Now put the fork down fatso
Where's your pic?
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Where are the boobies?
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Where's your pic?
This aint plenty of fish moron
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HAha i had a guy ask me the same thing, I was even supposed to post a picture with a coffeecup at work to prove that I work with what I said I did (and its not even a fancy job or antyhing)
Weird
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10 or so deaths in 2 months Lockdown- Multiple deaths every day from traffic accidents & Nothing
Something seriously wrong going on - Stop The Lockdown Nonsense across the globe it’s utterly Ridiculous - We’re all going to Die some young some old some seemingly fit & well & some not so
That’s Life Let’s Get On with it & Enjoy everyday we can.
Hey spoke to an executive director at our prestigious Mayo Clinic and he said they have gone from 500 surgical cases a day to 5. Spoke to a head nurse at another hospital and she said they receive better reimbursement if they write COVID down on a patient's chart. Another exec told me numbers were being padded for more government money to flow their way.
This is all shocking..umm not.
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Hey spoke to an executive director at our prestigious Mayo Clinic and he said they have gone from 500 surgical cases a day to 5. Spoke to a head nurse at another hospital and she said they receive better reimbursement if they write COVID down on a patient's chart. Another exec told me numbers were being padded for more government money to flow their way.
This is all shocking..umm not.
I've heard similar. Those dying who had little to no medical insurance are bumped up to covid so that the hospital gets paid/paid more. (Maybe thin lizzy can connect the dots on this one...)
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Today's Oregonian has an article about a marked increase in deaths of the past 6 weeks which are not apparently related to COVID-19. In many cases, the deaths occurred at home and not in a hospital. Additionally, nearly all the recently reported COVID-19 deaths in Oregon were people in their late 60's or older. Several who just recently died were in their 90's. In all cases, the folks had other health issues, primarily cardio vascular related.
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I've heard similar. Those dying who had little to no medical insurance are bumped up to covid so that the hospital gets paid/paid more. (Maybe thin lizzy can connect the dots on this one...)
The dots have been pretty much connected in Walters’ post. Pumping up the numbers means more of those freshly printed dollars for the hospitals, states and cities.
You have the main stream liberal media in this country claiming that the numbers have been under counted when a child can see that the opposite is true.
Here in New York City we have to keep up this charade because if people stop social distancing at the same time hospitalizations and deaths are dropping dramatically it harpoons the whole theory that social distancing was the reason for the decline.
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The dots have been pretty much connected in Walters’ post. Pumping up the numbers means more of those freshly printed dollars for the hospitals, states and cities.
You have the main stream liberal media in this country claiming that the numbers have been under counted when a child can see that the opposite is true.
This is another tragedy happening right before our eyes .Elective surgery is, by definition, any surgery that is scheduled so literally organ transplants are being delayed along with all types of cancer surgery, joint surgery/replacement etc.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/op-ed-cancer-surgeries-and-organ-transplants-are-being-put-off-for-coronavirus.html
Heartbreaking individual stories are emerging by the day. A 33-year-old man whose long-awaited liver transplant was canceled told NBC News it was a “death sentence.” After a 7-year-old boy’s urgently needed kidney transplant surgery was put on hold, his mother told the network’s Washington, D.C., affiliate it was a “nightmare” scenario, “but it’s not even the worst one you could find.”
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The dots have been pretty much connected in Walters’ post. Pumping up the numbers means more of those freshly printed dollars for the hospitals, states and cities.
You have the main stream liberal media in this country claiming that the numbers have been under counted when a child can see that the opposite is true.
Here in New York City we have to keep up this charade because if people stop social distancing at the same time hospitalizations and deaths are dropping dramatically it harpoons the whole theory that social distancing was the reason for the decline.
Bro...
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How many hours of youtube do you have to watch in order to get whats going on with the conspiracy?
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This is another tragedy happening right before our eyes .Elective surgery is, by definition, any surgery that is scheduled so literally organ transplants are being delayed along with all types of cancer surgery, joint surgery/replacement etc.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/op-ed-cancer-surgeries-and-organ-transplants-are-being-put-off-for-coronavirus.html
Heartbreaking individual stories are emerging by the day. A 33-year-old man whose long-awaited liver transplant was canceled told NBC News it was a “death sentence.” After a 7-year-old boy’s urgently needed kidney transplant surgery was put on hold, his mother told the network’s Washington, D.C., affiliate it was a “nightmare” scenario, “but it’s not even the worst one you could find.”
I could not accept your definition of elective surgery because it just did not seem right. But, after looking up the medical definition of elective surgery, I can see where there is a lot of room for what is and what isn't considered elective surgery.
"Elective surgery: Surgery that is subject to choice (election). The choice may be made by the patient or doctor.
For example, the time when a surgical procedure is performed may be elective. The procedure is beneficial to the patient but does not need be done at a particular time.
As opposed to urgent or emergency surgery." https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=14367
Seems as if someone's life is in immediate danger without surgery, it is not considered elective surgery.
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How many hours of youtube do you have to watch in order to get whats going on with the conspiracy?
10 min of youtube videos > 10 years of medical training.
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Are you still going to shop at Costco?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/04/29/costco-will-require-all-shoppers-to-wear-face-masks-starting-monday/#177064b86538
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Finally! I have been putting off going to Costco for my special treat, which is praline pecans because customers were allowed to shop shitting out their viral germs with every breath. Frankly, I'm surprised at the number of idiots who were willing to expose themselves to COVID-19 for a package of Kirkland brand toilet paper. Just think how laden with COVID-19 and who knows what other viruses the air inside a super box store like Costco is laden with. Thank you Costco!
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10 min of youtube videos > 10 years of medical training.
Youtube, the home of crackpot videos!
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Hey spoke to an executive director at our prestigious Mayo Clinic and he said they have gone from 500 surgical cases a day to 5. Spoke to a head nurse at another hospital and she said they receive better reimbursement if they write COVID down on a patient's chart. Another exec told me numbers were being padded for more government money to flow their way.
This is all shocking..umm not.
Why isn’t that surprising - It’s so difficult to find any truth being accurately reported nowadays.
What are your thoughts on the Virus ? Man made / altered & Was it Deliberately released by the Chinese. I’m tending to think yes to them questions.
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11,000 air pollution-related deaths avoided in Europe as coal, oil consumption plummet.
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Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.
America's response is a disgrace. Cowards telling other cowards to hide under their bed.
I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being.
Cowards!
What if you were driving and a drunk driving crashed into you and you were paralyzed.
Wouldn’t the drunk driver be responsible for negatively impacting your wellbeing?
Or, would you blame yourself for being on the road?
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drivers don't kill people
cars kill people
speed doesn't kill, its stopping unbelievably quickly that kills..
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speed doesn't kill, its stopping unbelievably quickly that kills..
Stopping unbelievably quickly doesn't kill, it's the energy transferred from the car to the object being hit what kills.
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Bro...
Next to central bank money printing, medical billing is the biggest scam going. Not surprisingly both the scams are on full display during this “crisis.”
Shit like this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Lenox Hill Hospital to shell out $12.3M for submitting fake claims to Medicare
https://nypost.com/2019/11/08/lenox-hill-hospital-will-shell-out-12-3m-for-submitting-fraudulent-claims-to-medicare/
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Next to central bank money printing, medical billing is the biggest scam going. Not surprisingly both the scams are on full display during this “crisis.”
Shit like this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Lenox Hill Hospital to shell out $12.3M for submitting fake claims to Medicare
https://nypost.com/2019/11/08/lenox-hill-hospital-will-shell-out-12-3m-for-submitting-fraudulent-claims-to-medicare/
What types of people in NY would most likely be uninsured and therefore be submitted for free federal "corona" medicare, and where might they live?
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What types of people in NY would most likely be uninsured and therefore be submitted for free federal "corona" medicare, and where might they live?
In the “hotspots” the black and Hispanic areas. The hospital in that piece is actually in a high income area. Can you imagine how bad it is in the low income areas?
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Stopping unbelievably quickly doesn't kill, it's the energy transferred from the car to the object being hit what kills.
:D Damn energy transfer! Can't trust anybody these days.
And I'm not sure getting fucked up by a drunk driver is a good comparison to contracting a virus. It's not a terrible comparison I suppose.
Again, this life has no warranty. I drive knowing I could get smashed by some drunk idiot. Allow me to go to the gym or play blackjack in a casino or have a drink in a bar with someone who may have Covid19. I'll take my chances. If it works out poorly please say nice things at my memorial.
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:D Damn energy transfer! Can't trust anybody these days.
And I'm not sure getting fucked up by a drunk driver is a good comparison to contracting a virus. It's not a terrible comparison I suppose.
Again, this life has no warranty. I drive knowing I could get smashed by some drunk idiot. Allow me to go to the gym or play blackjack in a casino or have a drink in a bar with someone who may have Covid19. I'll take my chances. If it works out poorly please say nice things at my memorial.
and the old argument comes back, "but you might contaminate others"
Answer "not if they stay 2 meters away I wont"
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So what is it you so desperately need to do that you cant?
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So what is it you so desperately need to do that you cant?
Some people run businesses and have employees, bills and customers. Like I do. And as business slows down people lose their jobs. And state unemployment offices don't respond very quickly so a lot of people are going broke.
I guess that's kind of a desperate need.
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But I thought people on getbig were warriors
only the strong survive etc
And here a lockdown for a couple of months seems to be all it takes
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Some people run businesses and have employees, bills and customers. Like I do. And as business slows down people lose their jobs. And state unemployment offices don't respond very quickly so a lot of people are going broke.
I guess that's kind of a desperate need.
This doesn't apply to every business or person out there, but we had over a decade of immense economic prosperity, people are walking around with a $300 jacket on, $200 shoes, a $700 phone in their pocket, another sitting in a drawer at home, eating out every other day, etc etc. Yet these people didn't manage to have a bit of money saved to see them through a rainy day?
Those who are generally financially responsible and got caught out at an inopportune moment have my sympathy, but my general feeling towards the majority is fuck them. It's just a modern day version of Darwinism in action
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This doesn't apply to every business or person out there, but we had over a decade of immense economic prosperity, people are walking around with a $300 jacket on, $200 shoes, a $700 phone in their pocket, another sitting in a drawer at home, eating out every other day, etc etc. Yet these people didn't manage to have a bit of money saved to see them through a rainy day?
Those who are generally financially responsible and got caught out at an inopportune moment have my sympathy, but my general feeling towards the majority is fuck them. It's just a modern day version of Darwinism in action
You fucking asshole. You are so removed from what is going on in the real world that you qualify as a barely functional retard, lol. Do you have any idea how business and commerce works? I await your answer you goddamn fool.
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You fucking asshole. You are so removed from what is going on in the real world that you qualify as a barely functional retard, lol. Do you have any idea how business and commerce works? I await your answer you goddamn fool.
I'm doing great in the real world. You're the one bawling online over it.
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This doesn't apply to every business or person out there, but we had over a decade of immense economic prosperity, people are walking around with a $300 jacket on, $200 shoes, a $700 phone in their pocket, another sitting in a drawer at home, eating out every other day, etc etc. Yet these people didn't manage to have a bit of money saved to see them through a rainy day?
Those who are generally financially responsible and got caught out at an inopportune moment have my sympathy, but my general feeling towards the majority is fuck them. It's just a modern day version of Darwinism in action
Sounds like Dr. Vince Goodrum's, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, life. Big status.
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:D Damn energy transfer! Can't trust anybody these days.
And I'm not sure getting fucked up by a drunk driver is a good comparison to contracting a virus. It's not a terrible comparison I suppose.
Again, this life has no warranty. I drive knowing I could get smashed by some drunk idiot. Allow me to go to the gym or play blackjack in a casino or have a drink in a bar with someone who may have Covid19. I'll take my chances. If it works out poorly please say nice things at my memorial.
Exactly Right 👍🏻
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Sounds like Dr. Vince Goodrum's, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, life. Big status.
To be fair to VG and having watched his old videos, if it's all genuine, he came across as a pretty financially responsible dude.
Ate budget meals, shopped at goodwill, lived within his means. Not because he had to, but because he wanted to. He also had the bigger picture in mind.
It's no surprise he's doing pretty well during these tough times whilst others who were shopping at Versace and eating steak dinner every evening are now contemplating suicide.
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Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.
America's response is a disgrace. Cowards telling other cowards to hide under their bed.
I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being.
Cowards!
245 lbs. is a lot to weigh unless you are 7' tall. Maybe in 2 years when you are 60 and among the age related vulnerable group, this virus will have been eradicated...or at least there will be a preventative vaccine. Your lack of fear is impressive....makes you seem so macho.
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10 or so deaths in 2 months Lockdown- Multiple deaths every day from traffic accidents & Nothing
Something seriously wrong going on - Stop The Lockdown Nonsense across the globe it’s utterly Ridiculous - We’re all going to Die some young some old some seemingly fit & well & some not so
That’s Life Let’s Get On with it & Enjoy everyday we can.
You cannot compare traffic fatalities with deaths as a result of a preexisting condition or a virus. Traffic fatalities have nothing to do with health related deaths. It is like comparing oranges to cue-balls, one's natural and one is man made the only things they have in common are shape and size.
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Some people run businesses and have employees, bills and customers. Like I do. And as business slows down people lose their jobs. And state unemployment offices don't respond very quickly so a lot of people are going broke.
I guess that's kind of a desperate need.
Thank you sir. It ain't that difficult.
And it's not about me. It's about all the hard working people who are losing everything.
And it's about "rewarding people for doing nothing..." Yes! Stay home. We will pay you more than you made at your job. How could that go wrong?
There's a certain portion of the population that have made welfare a career choice. How's that working out for that certain group ?
Cowards.
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245 lbs. is a lot to weigh unless you are 7' tall. Maybe in 2 years when you are 60 and among the age related vulnerable group, this virus will have been eradicated...or at least there will be a preventative vaccine. Your lack of fear is impressive....makes you seem so macho.
So when I turn 60 my immune system will suddenly magically change? Interesting.
You are correct about one thing... my absolute lack of fear. Macho Man? Well I was always a bigger fan of Diamond Dallas Page.
Stay healthy Prime. I wish you well sir.
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245 lbs. is a lot to weigh unless you are 7' tall. Maybe in 2 years when you are 60 and among the age related vulnerable group, this virus will have been eradicated...or at least there will be a preventative vaccine. Your lack of fear is impressive....makes you seem so macho.
There will never be a suitable vaccine. Why? Mutations. Where is the vaccine for the common cold? Or HIV? I'll wait for your answer and scientific explanation.
And no, there is nothing surprising about dying at age 60 or 70 from Covid, or even the flu for that matter. A lot of post 60 year old people are in shit shape so no surprise they knock off after a bad virus.. Still, I happen to know quite a few 70 year old guys who are still competitive cyclists. In cardiovascular shape you would not believe. One was diagnosed a month and a half ago with Covid after he returned from California. He went into the hospital after getting a bad cough and ended up getting over it in 7 days.
BTW Tommy is one of the best posters on here and happens to actually lift weights. Surprise- he is a big guy. If you have a thing with guys being macho as opposed to being effeminate, why are you on this board? It's a bodybuilding site. You know - for guys who like to be big and have muscles.
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Is it still racist to protect our borders aggressively and demand LEGAL, verified entry into this country so we know exactly who entered when and from where in the era of global viruses?
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Is it still racist to protect our borders aggressively and demand LEGAL, verified entry into this country so we know exactly who entered when and from where in the era of global viruses?
Still racist.
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There will never be a suitable vaccine. Why? Mutations. Where is the vaccine for the common cold? Or HIV? I'll wait for your answer and scientific explanation.
And no, there is nothing surprising about dying at age 60 or 70 from Covid, or even the flu for that matter. A lot of post 60 year old people are in shit shape so no surprise they knock off after a bad virus.. Still, I happen to know quite a few 70 year old guys who are still competitive cyclists. In cardiovascular shape you would not believe. One was diagnosed a month and a half ago with Covid after he returned from California. He went into the hospital after getting a bad cough and ended up getting over it in 7 days.
BTW Tommy is one of the best posters on here and happens to actually lift weights. Surprise- he is a big guy. If you have a thing with guys being macho as opposed to being effeminate, why are you on this board? It's a bodybuilding site. You know - for guys who like to be big and have muscles.
Once you're done sucking off Tommy I suggest you go fact check yourself.
The common colds are mostly Rhinovirus, Covid is not. HIV is a retrovirus, Covid is not.
Flu mutates and undergoes antigenic drifts (and occasionally antigenic shifts), yet there are still vaccines for that. Covid does not mutate anywhere near as fast as flu does. There are also already vaccines for other corona viruses.
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Once you're done sucking off Tommy I suggest you go fact check yourself.
The common cold is mostly Rhinovirus, Covid is not. HIV is a retrovirus, Covid is not.
Flu mutates and undergoes antigenic drifts (and occasionally antigenic shifts), yet there are still vaccines for that. Covid does not mutate anywhere near as fast as flu does. There are also already vaccines for other corona viruses.
LOL @ you presenting science. That's gonna go over swimmingly with this crowd of mongloids.
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There will never be a suitable vaccine. Why? Mutations. Where is the vaccine for the common cold? Or HIV? I'll wait for your answer and scientific explanation.
False equivalence. It's like saying that because we have a vaccine for measles, we should have one for HIV.
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245 lbs. is a lot to weigh unless you are 7' tall. Maybe in 2 years when you are 60 and among the age related vulnerable group, this virus will have been eradicated...or at least there will be a preventative vaccine. Your lack of fear is impressive....makes you seem so macho.
Dude's neck is bigger than his head. He runs through Death Valley, just for fun. When I asked him if he ever killed anyone, he said "I don't know. I never checked."
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So when I turn 60 my immune system will suddenly magically change? Interesting.
You are correct about one thing... my absolute lack of fear. Macho Man? Well I was always a bigger fan of Diamond Dallas Page.
Stay healthy Prime. I wish you well sir.
Of course turning 60 isn't going to trigger a change in your immune system. I was being snide. It just seems like a lot there's a lot of conversation that would lead one to believe once everyone hits a certain age their body turns into crap. That's crap. Some folks in their 30's are a mess healthwise and some folks in their 70's are as healthy as an ox, so to speak.
You stay healthy too. You have my best wishes as well. Stay healthy as an ox.
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LOL @ you presenting science. That's gonna go over swimmingly with this crowd of mongloids.
But but.. its an hoax!
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Regarding to some people on the ground ChinaFlu Virus #.2 is already in the Northern China !.
No joke !.
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(A friend of mine posted this and it’s so very true and on point)
For the people crying for the country to remain shut down, answer these questions:
1) How many children should starve in order to make you feel safe?
2) How many families must go bankrupt in order to make you feel safe?
3) How many wives and children must be stuck at home with an abusive husband/father in order to make you feel safe?
4) How many business owners should lose everything they've worked for in order to make you feel safe?
5) How many people are you comfortable with committing suicide from hopelessness and financial ruin in order to make you feel safe?
Come up with an actual number, don't just dismiss the questions. Come up with the number of people that you think should surrender their lives for YOUR feelings and YOUR safety.
Does it make you feel safer knowing that your unwarranted fear and panic are costing others their livelihoods and even their very lives?
Each time you whine and complain about keeping the country shut down, remember what it's costing OTHER people for you to sit in your house sucking at the teat of CNN, swallowing the panic narrative, and hoarding toilet paper.
Also, remember this - if the TV news had never told you to be afraid of this virus, you wouldn't have. You'd have never given it a thought, you'd have gone about your life as usual along with everyone else. You'd likely have never known there was a virus at all, that this was just another typical flu season. So, remember that all your fear and panic exists because you were TOLD to live in fear and panic.
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That last paragraph is so true.
In NYC, coming into March, there was no talk of Corona. The big story was a plastic bag ban. Only after word came down about federal funds becoming available did politicians start giving a shit.
The Mayor kept going to his gym (what he did there, I have no idea. He looks like shit) until the day before it closed.
Get Ready, New York: The Plastic Bag Ban Is Starting
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/nyregion/new-york-state-ban-plastic-bags.html
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio goes to the gym as officials urge social distancing amid coronavirus outbreak - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/bill-de-blasio-gym-coronavirus/index.html
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Regarding to some people on the ground ChinaFlu Virus #.2 is already in the Northern China !.
No joke !.
Try type that again.
If you meant the virus is running through Northern China then I wouldn't be surprised. Most likely spread by people coming in from Russia.
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Get Ready, New York: The Plastic Bag Ban Is Starting
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/nyregion/new-york-state-ban-plastic-bags.html
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio goes to the gym as officials urge social distancing amid coronavirus outbreak - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/bill-de-blasio-gym-coronavirus/index.html
We had the plastic bag ban here for like 6 months. They had to bring the bags back because of the rona
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We had the plastic bag ban here for like 6 months. They had to bring the bags back because of the rona
why, to make face masks?
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why, to make face masks?
To speed up home shopping deliveries and so people weren't bringing in bags from home which supposedly might spread the virus.
It wasn't so much a ban here originally though, more a plastic bag tax/shift to reusable bags.
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(A friend of mine posted this and it’s so very true and on point)
For the people crying for the country to remain shut down, answer these questions:
1) How many children should starve in order to make you feel safe?
2) How many families must go bankrupt in order to make you feel safe?
3) How many wives and children must be stuck at home with an abusive husband/father in order to make you feel safe?
4) How many business owners should lose everything they've worked for in order to make you feel safe?
5) How many people are you comfortable with committing suicide from hopelessness and financial ruin in order to make you feel safe?
Come up with an actual number, don't just dismiss the questions. Come up with the number of people that you think should surrender their lives for YOUR feelings and YOUR safety.
Does it make you feel safer knowing that your unwarranted fear and panic are costing others their livelihoods and even their very lives?
Each time you whine and complain about keeping the country shut down, remember what it's costing OTHER people for you to sit in your house sucking at the teat of CNN, swallowing the panic narrative, and hoarding toilet paper.
Also, remember this - if the TV news had never told you to be afraid of this virus, you wouldn't have. You'd have never given it a thought, you'd have gone about your life as usual along with everyone else. You'd likely have never known there was a virus at all, that this was just another typical flu season. So, remember that all your fear and panic exists because you were TOLD to live in fear and panic.
this
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Seems like the only places Chinese travelers visited after leaving Wuhan were ghettos and nursing homes:
Ethnic minorities in England and Wales are dying from coronavirus at higher rates than white peers - report - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/uk/coronavirus-bame-deaths-ifs-gbr-intl/index.html
"Once you take account of age and geography, most minority groups 'should' have fewer deaths per capita than the white British majority," the report states.
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Yes, let’s pretend that lifestyle plays no role in mortality rates.
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(A friend of mine posted this and it’s so very true and on point)
For the people crying for the country to remain shut down, answer these questions:
1) How many children should starve in order to make you feel safe?
2) How many families must go bankrupt in order to make you feel safe?
3) How many wives and children must be stuck at home with an abusive husband/father in order to make you feel safe?
4) How many business owners should lose everything they've worked for in order to make you feel safe?
5) How many people are you comfortable with committing suicide from hopelessness and financial ruin in order to make you feel safe?
Come up with an actual number, don't just dismiss the questions. Come up with the number of people that you think should surrender their lives for YOUR feelings and YOUR safety.
Does it make you feel safer knowing that your unwarranted fear and panic are costing others their livelihoods and even their very lives?
Each time you whine and complain about keeping the country shut down, remember what it's costing OTHER people for you to sit in your house sucking at the teat of CNN, swallowing the panic narrative, and hoarding toilet paper.
Also, remember this - if the TV news had never told you to be afraid of this virus, you wouldn't have. You'd have never given it a thought, you'd have gone about your life as usual along with everyone else. You'd likely have never known there was a virus at all, that this was just another typical flu season. So, remember that all your fear and panic exists because you were TOLD to live in fear and panic.
I am a fatalist. Neither opening things up nor shutting them down make me feel safer. Wearing a mask and avoiding unnecessary contact with others makes sense, but it should be a choice each of us makes and not one that is made for us as if we were all too dumb to think for ourselves. Unfortunately, poor choices have an effect on everyone else. I okay with being responsible for my health and safety. I am not okay with causing someone else to become sick or die.
This virus and others coming down the pike will make people sick and even cause some to die. When it is man verses nature, eventually nature wins. It always does. Earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, tidal-waves and viruses are all greater than humans.
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I am a fatalist. Neither opening things up nor shutting them down make me feel safer. Wearing a mask and avoiding unnecessary contact with others makes sense, but it should be a choice each of us makes and not one that is made for us as if we were all too dumb to think for ourselves. Unfortunately, poor choices have an effect on everyone else. I okay with being responsible for my health and safety. I am not okay with causing someone else to become sick or die.
This virus and others coming down the pike will make people sick and even cause some to die. When it is man verses nature, eventually nature wins. It always does. Earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, tidal-waves and viruses are all greater than humans.
You’re not a fatalist. You’re just a coward.
You’re not a great man. You’re not brave. You would have died of fear on D-Day. Thank God for greater men, or this country would have never happened.
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You’re not a fatalist. You’re just a coward.
You’re not a great man. You’re not brave. You would have died of fear on D-Day. Thank God for greater men, or this country would have never happened.
Obviously you believe you know me better than I know myself. This is odd, since we've never met.
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Obviously you believe you know me better than I know myself. This is odd, since we've never met.
I’ve met you. I was the dude on the other side of the glory hole.
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I’ve met you. I was the dude on the other side of the glory hole.
Thanks. You are quite the expert guy.
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About 90% of the general public believe everything that comes from the MSM.
This is a world full of idiots who are easily owned and conquered.
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Obviously you believe you know me better than I know myself. This is odd, since we've never met.
Army of one kinda exposed you for being a bit of a coward. You went from fuck the rona to cowering at home.
I actually like your earlier post though and that choices should be down to the individual. Seems like a healthy mindset and very reasonable. Only thing I would suggest is that anyone not wanting to go back to should only be given the bare minimum in assistance, like a loaf of bread, milk and some canned sardines. Those returning to work should receive some kinda government top up to their wages dependent on their job/risk factor.
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Army of one kinda exposed you for being a bit of a coward. You went from fuck the rona to cowering at home.
I actually like your earlier post though and that choices should be down to the individual. Seems like a healthy mindset and very reasonable. Only thing I would suggest is that anyone not wanting to go back to should only be given the bare minimum in assistance, like a loaf of bread, milk and some canned sardines. Those returning to work should receive some kinda government top up to their wages dependent on their job/risk factor.
In truth, I did originally resist my family's wish that I refrain from going to the gym and wearing a mask. At the same time that I relented, Governor Brown shut everything....including all gyms down. I did start using the mask whenever I went out and still am. I also go somewhere, usually the grocery store, everyday. Getting out of the house, even for 15 minutes helps me stay sane.
For those required to work, hazard pay makes sense because they are risking their health and their lives for the benefit of others. I happen to like canned sardines and good bread. I'd be okay with that. Luckily, for now I can still afford to buy my own food. Government assistance is not infinite. Eventually, people will have to figure out a way to return to productive lives if they hope to survive. The pressure to open the economy is mounting every day. It will happened and it will happen without the support of scientific experts or the media who tell us that we need to keep things shut down longer.
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In truth, I did originally resist my family's wish that I refrain from going to the gym and wearing a mask. At the same time that I relented, Governor Brown shut everything....including all gyms down. I did start using the mask whenever I went out and still am. I also go somewhere, usually the grocery store, everyday. Getting out of the house, even for 15 minutes helps me stay sane.
For those required to work, hazard pay makes sense because they are risking their health and their lives for the benefit of others. I happen to like canned sardines and good bread. I'd be okay with that. Luckily, for now I can still afford to buy my own food. Government assistance is not infinite. Eventually, people will have to figure out a way to return to productive lives if they hope to survive. The pressure to open the economy is mounting every day. It will happened and it will happen without the support of scientific experts or the media who tell us that we need to keep things shut down longer.
Uncle Prime, can we get a picture of you wearing a leather face mask?
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According to the CDC's own website...
We're under and have been under the normally expected death rate so far this year.
WTF.. these #'s sure don't add up to a "pandemic"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
No spike.... normal average # of people dying since the beginning
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Uncle Prime, can we get a picture of you wearing a leather face mask?
Fuckin gross
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Uncle Prime, can we get a picture of you wearing a leather face mask?
Of course you can. Here you go.
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According to the CDC's own website...
We're under and have been under the normally expected death rate so far this year.
WTF.. these #'s sure don't add up to a "pandemic"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
No spike.... normal average # of people dying since the beginning
It’s not about the virus. It never was.
Pelosi floats almost $1T for states in next relief package | TheHill
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/495497-pelosi-floats-almost-1t-for-states-in-next-relief-package
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According to the CDC's own website...
We're under and have been under the normally expected death rate so far this year.
WTF.. these #'s sure don't add up to a "pandemic"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
No spike.... normal average # of people dying since the beginning
It's only really NY that the virus took hold and needed locking down. The problem with the US is that if you tried to lock down NY then a large chunk of the New Yorkers would just leave the state and potentially take and spread the virus with them. (This is what happened in Northern Italy with them escaping down south)
The Majority of the US did not need a full lockdown, but how would a hard border have worked out in NY state where no one was allowed to leave?
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Fuckin gross
I meant a leather face mask to protect him against COVID19!!
What did you think I meant?!?
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I’ve met you. I was the dude on the other side of the glory hole.
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I meant a leather face mask to protect him against COVID19!!
What did you think I meant?!?
Oh, you mean one of these? It's backordered. Won't get it for another couple of weeks. So in the meantime, the one I already had will have to do. ;D
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Good morning morons.
Your favourite Jewish doctor has caught the attention of federal prosecutors through his lies..
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/us/coronavirus-doctor-zelenko-malaria-drug.html
WASHINGTON — A federal prosecutor has opened a preliminary inquiry into whether an obscure New York doctor who won White House attention by claiming he could treat the coronavirus broke the law by falsely claiming that a hospital study of drugs he had promoted had won federal approval.
The doctor, Vladimir Zelenko, wrongly claimed that the Food and Drug Administration had backed a study of a drug cocktail that he asserts is effective in treating Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus
No. Fake news. Other prominent figures were also posting similar information (Rudy Guliani) and they had their accounts blocked on twitter for spreading misinformation
So, because you do NOT politically agree with them it's fake news?
We are fucked lol
Bench
Link to your claims about the Doctor in New York?
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(A friend of mine posted this and it’s so very true and on point)
For the people crying for the country to remain shut down, answer these questions:
1) How many children should starve in order to make you feel safe?
2) How many families must go bankrupt in order to make you feel safe?
3) How many wives and children must be stuck at home with an abusive husband/father in order to make you feel safe?
4) How many business owners should lose everything they've worked for in order to make you feel safe?
5) How many people are you comfortable with committing suicide from hopelessness and financial ruin in order to make you feel safe?
Come up with an actual number, don't just dismiss the questions. Come up with the number of people that you think should surrender their lives for YOUR feelings and YOUR safety.
Does it make you feel safer knowing that your unwarranted fear and panic are costing others their livelihoods and even their very lives?
Each time you whine and complain about keeping the country shut down, remember what it's costing OTHER people for you to sit in your house sucking at the teat of CNN, swallowing the panic narrative, and hoarding toilet paper.
Also, remember this - if the TV news had never told you to be afraid of this virus, you wouldn't have. You'd have never given it a thought, you'd have gone about your life as usual along with everyone else. You'd likely have never known there was a virus at all, that this was just another typical flu season. So, remember that all your fear and panic exists because you were TOLD to live in fear and panic.
Word to your mother.
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absolutely
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That's Samurai face protection mask, nothing to do with a mental disorder !.
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A local nurse told me the hospitals she works at, two hospitals, are almost empty, most of the staff go home early almost every day, there is not much work to do at the moment.
One wing of the hospital was converted into an area for COVID-19 patients, it is completely empty.
Also, many doctors and specialists practises are closed during this lockdown, so if you get sick, need surgery or have to see a specialist, it becomes a lot more difficult.
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A local nurse told me the hospitals she works at, two hospitals, are almost empty, most of the staff go home early almost every day, there is not much work to do at the moment.
One wing of the hospital was converted into an area for COVID-19 patients, it is completely empty.
Also, many doctors and specialists practises are closed during this lockdown, so if you get sick, need surgery or have to see a specialist, it becomes a lot more difficult.
They would’ve been full had the country not gone into lockdown. That of course is bullshit but that’s what powers that be in your country are going to say.
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NO we are all not SCREWED by China Kang Flu !.
I was in the supermarket at 7am , only 3 customers & no shortages of anything, piles of toilet paoer on special.
Staff looks so bored !. So I used selfservice !.
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Do masks work or not?
If they do work, then why did we need to ever stop going out - could have just all worn masks the whole time?
If they don't work, then why are we wearing them?
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Do masks work or not?
If they do work, then why did we need to ever stop going out - could have just all worn masks the whole time?
If they don't work, then why are we wearing them?
It’s crazy to think gov Cuomo calls people who don’t wear masks potential killers.
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Another day another moron
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554
A patient diagnosed with pneumonia near Paris on 27 December actually had the coronavirus, his doctor has said.
The Virus was likely around in Jan/Feb in a lot of places. Itt just wasn't yet diagnosed.
The list of symptoms are non specific FFS...
Not everything is coronavirus ::), they are common symptoms for many diseases.
As I have already said a few times on here, don't be surprised if by now 15 to 20% of the Western world have already had the virus. Some places will even be much higher.
I'll be sure to quote this for your benefit once the antibody data starts coming in.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/early-antibody-tests-find-21-of-new-yorkers-have-had-covid-19-2020-04-23
Coronavirus antibodies found in 21% of New Yorkers in early testing
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This is just the first wave, wait for the more lethal second wave.
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This is just the first wave, wait for the more lethal second wave.
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Tit&booty all in one place
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Tit&booty all in one place
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It’s crazy to think gov Cuomo calls people who don’t wear masks potential killers.
Why is that crazy? What if someone has the virus, symptom free or not, and does not wear a mask in public, their every breath if laden with germs which linger in the air you breathe as you walk by them, giving you a gift you don't want. What if they touch their mouth or scratch their nose and then touched that carton of protein powder you just bought. When you picked it off the shelf, the virus got on your finger which you just picked your nose with and voila, you now have the virus. better hope your immune system is strong.
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Why is that crazy? What if someone has the virus, symptom free or not, and does not wear a mask in public, their every breath if laden with germs which linger in the air you breathe as you walk by them, giving you a gift you don't want. What if they touch their mouth or scratch their nose and then touched that carton of protein powder you just bought. When you picked it off the shelf, the virus got on your finger which you just picked your nose with and voila, you now have the virus. better hope your immune system is strong.
You are aware it is virtually impossible to catch it via the airborne route, you have to pick it up from something, unless someone spits in your mouth
There is a lot of reaching in your post, "what if this happens then this happens causing this to happen"
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Why is that crazy? What if someone has the virus, symptom free or not, and does not wear a mask in public, their every breath if laden with germs which linger in the air you breathe as you walk by them, giving you a gift you don't want. What if they touch their mouth or scratch their nose and then touched that carton of protein powder you just bought. When you picked it off the shelf, the virus got on your finger which you just picked your nose with and voila, you now have the virus. better hope your immune system is strong.
you sound like my wife. stay home ffs
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You are aware it is virtually impossible to catch it via the airborne route, you have to pick it up from something, unless someone spits in your mouth
There is a lot of reaching in your post, "what if this happens then this happens causing this to happen"
I don't think that is correct.
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I don't think that is correct.
stop thinking and try and provide some evidence that its airborne then..the scientists cant decide, but on balance its less likely to be airborne or the situation would be far worse
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you sound like my wife. stay home ffs
Your wife is a smart woman....smarter than you apparently know. Who should stay home? The jerk not wearing a mask in public or someone who happens to walk by them when they sneeze? My vote is for the asswipe who is too inconsiderate to wear a mask.
If this COVID-19 goes on killing people. It is going to be illegal to step out of your house without wearing a mask. Did you know you cannot get on a plane without a mask now? Soon, this will include all public transit. Some supermarkets already won't let you in the door unless you are wearing one.
But hey, don't worry about it, you can always send your wife out for stuff. Tough shit if she gets sick. Right?
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Your wife is a smart woman....smarter than you apparently know. Who should stay home? The jerk not wearing a mask in public or someone who happens to walk by them when they sneeze? My vote is for the asswipe who is too inconsiderate to wear a mask.
If this COVID-19 goes on killing people. It is going to be illegal to step out of your house without wearing a mask. Did you know you cannot get on a plane without a mask now? Soon, this will include all public transit. Some supermarkets already won't let you in the door unless you are wearing one.
But hey, don't worry about it, you can always send your wife out for stuff. Tough shit if she gets sick. Right?
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Your wife is a smart woman....smarter than you apparently know. Who should stay home? The jerk not wearing a mask in public or someone who happens to walk by them when they sneeze? My vote is for the asswipe who is too inconsiderate to wear a mask.
If this COVID-19 goes on killing people. It is going to be illegal to step out of your house without wearing a mask. Did you know you cannot get on a plane without a mask now? Soon, this will include all public transit. Some supermarkets already won't let you in the door unless you are wearing one.
But hey, don't worry about it, you can always send your wife out for stuff. Tough shit if she gets sick. Right?
There is no need to be wearing a mask outdoors. You're actually doing more harm to your health than good in this situation.
FYI you were taking a greater risk sucking off random cocks at the gloryhole than there currently is with covid19
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Epic Stupidity on display
this guy is fat, ugly and orange!
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/05/white-house-break-up-of-coronavirus-task-force-237769
The Trump White House is planning to wind down its coronavirus task force in the coming weeks and instead ask agencies to take control of the response efforts.
“We’re having a conversation about that and about what the proper time is for the task force to complete its work,” Vice President Mike Pence said at a briefing for reporters on Tuesday. At that point, he added, the work would be moved to agencies like the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
“We’ve already begun to talk about a transition plan with FEMA,” Pence said.
The undoing of the coronavirus task force comes as the president has turned his attention almost entirely toward reopening the economy as more than a dozen states allow people to slowly return to businesses like hair salons and restaurants. By the end of the week, Trump’s top economic officials are expected to unveil new ideas for tax policy and regulatory changes to bolster the U.S. economy in the third and fourth quarters of the year — even as the death toll from the coronavirus continues to rise and the virus spreads to new areas of the country. Health officials remain concerned about an increase of cases in places like Chicago and Des Moines, Iowa.
“I believe we can be in a very different place in late May or early June,” Pence said. “We’re going to start to look at the Memorial Day window to transition back to having our agencies manage our response in a more traditional manner.”
Top officials on Tuesday said they are seeing a decrease in hospitalizations and have already received reopening plans from 41 states so far, which they consider encouraging. Dr. Deborah Birx, one of the top health experts on the task force, said the administration is keeping a close eye on long-term care facilities, group housing, Native American communities, prisons and workers that have group housing, in the hopes of quelling any oubreaks quickly.
All these developments are being taken into account, officials said, as they determine the necessity of the task force moving forward. The future of the task force will be based on the health conditions, aides said. Pence characterized the discussion of dissolving the task force as “preliminary.”
Inside the White House, there has also been discussion of creating a new and smaller group to supplant the task force — focused on developing a vaccine and therapeutics. Pence said this project, dubbed "Operation Warp Speed," is “almost like a Manhattan Project-style effort to develop a vaccine.”
Health officials and other aides inside the White House are not happy about the upcoming dissolution of the task force, given the ongoing spread of the virus, said one source familiar with the discussions. But in recent days the task force had been meeting less frequently as a group, said a second person familiar with the task force.
“We're all still talking to each other, but we're just not coming together every day for an hour and a half to talk at each other as a group,” the person added. “For the health folks who are doing this stuff day to day, maybe from their perspective, this is more of a stand down.”
The unwinding of the task force was first reported by The New York Times.
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Epic Stupidity on display
this guy is fat, ugly and orange!
RON, for how long this jerk will be postiong ON YOURS WEBSITE !.
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You are aware it is virtually impossible to catch it via the airborne route, you have to pick it up from something, unless someone spits in your mouth
There is a lot of reaching in your post, "what if this happens then this happens causing this to happen"
You are unaware that you know shit but keep talking like you are some kind of authority. Stick to posting naked pics of yourself on gay sites.
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hmm... nothing suspicious about this at all.. nope... nothing
https://www.yahoo.com/news/researcher-verge-making-very-significant-030320409.html
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You are unaware that you know shit but keep talking like you are some kind of authority. Stick to posting naked pics of yourself on gay sites.
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Yup, that's you, Grannyface. Totally clueless and ignorant yet acting like you're well informed. You've already been exposed on this subject as a moron and, as you always do, try to back pedal and weasel your way out of it.
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Joe swiftly avoiding pussy
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Yup, that's you, Grannyface. Totally clueless and ignorant yet acting like you're well informed. You've already been exposed on this subject as a moron and, as you always do, try to back pedal and weasel your way out of it.
Its now midnight where you are and you are sat up chasing my posts around the board, and Im the moron?
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Its now midnight where you are and you are sat up chasing my posts around the board, and Im the moron?
I'm a night owl. I watching Fox news while bitch slapping your little granny face.
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I'm a night owl. I watching Fox news while bitch slapping my little granny pixie face.
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What wit. So how many cocks do you plan to have in your mouth today?
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What wit. So how many cocks do you plan to have in your mouth today?
pellius between posts
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Researcher 'on verge of making very significant' coronavirus findings shot to death
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A medical researcher said to be on the “verge of making very significant” coronavirus findings was found shot to death over the weekend in Pennsylvania, officials said.
He had been shot in the head and neck, the agency said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/researcher-verge-making-very-significant-030320409.html
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Researcher 'on verge of making very significant' coronavirus findings shot to death
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A medical researcher said to be on the “verge of making very significant” coronavirus findings was found shot to death over the weekend in Pennsylvania, officials said.
He had been shot in the head and neck, the agency said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/researcher-verge-making-very-significant-030320409.html
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I'm surprised he wasn't suicided. Same with the other scientist found dead in his car nearby.
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hmm... nothing suspicious about this at all.. nope... nothing
https://www.yahoo.com/news/researcher-verge-making-very-significant-030320409.html
I remember many years ago, the same sort of thing happened to an asian scientist who was making progress towards alzheimer's treatment, and he was picked off in his driveway by a sniper. San Diego area I think. hmm....
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What are the odds of an Asian scientist being targeted and killed?
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Safer to do research and talk trash behind your computer until they hut you down. :-X Poor fool!
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Horrible.
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In New York City, it’s the women who are not even in the risk groups who are doing the most bitching. It’s like the fat ugly chicks no guy wants to fuck who are always going on about rape and abortion.
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RON, for how long this jerk will be postiong ON YOURS WEBSITE !.
He should be banned,
just spams the board with walls of text.....
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just spams the board with walls of text.....
he has SCS (soul crusher syndrome)
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https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/health-workers-that-volunteered-to-come-to-ny-during-pandemic-have-to-pay-state-income-tax-cuomo
Health workers that volunteered to come to NY during pandemic have to pay state income tax: Cuomo
lol - glad I don't live in that shithole state anymore.
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Holy Sh1t!! Calling for illuminati - check these out!!!
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he has SCS (soul crusher syndrome)
What post do you think I have here is BS? Name one.
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There is no need to be wearing a mask outdoors. You're actually doing more harm to your health than good in this situation.
FYI you were taking a greater risk sucking off random cocks at the gloryhole than there currently is with covid19
Which is why I don't put one on until right before I enter a store and take it off as soon as possible after leaving. Wearing a mask is a pain when you also wear glasses and hearing aids. The elastic on the masks which goes around the ears gets tangled into them.
I think you missed where I made it clear I was wearing a mask for the protection of other folks more so than for my own protection. As best as I know, I don't have the virus, but if I did, there's a good chance I wouldn't have symptoms since I seem to be immune to the flu....having never knowingly had it during my entire lifetime.
The risk I took getting sucked off that one time when I was young and careless was negligible as compared to walking around in a crowd of people almost daily, who might be infected with COVID-19.
FYI, since you have no investment in my health, either now or in the past, why did you bother to reply to my post? Seems more like you were looking for an opportunity to say something about glory holes. Perhaps you have some issues you aren't aware of.
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Epic Stupidity on display
this guy is fat, ugly and orange!
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/05/white-house-break-up-of-coronavirus-task-force-237769
The Trump White House is planning to wind down its coronavirus task force in the coming weeks and instead ask agencies to take control of the response efforts.
“We’re having a conversation about that and about what the proper time is for the task force to complete its work,” Vice President Mike Pence said at a briefing for reporters on Tuesday. At that point, he added, the work would be moved to agencies like the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
“We’ve already begun to talk about a transition plan with FEMA,” Pence said.
The undoing of the coronavirus task force comes as the president has turned his attention almost entirely toward reopening the economy as more than a dozen states allow people to slowly return to businesses like hair salons and restaurants. By the end of the week, Trump’s top economic officials are expected to unveil new ideas for tax policy and regulatory changes to bolster the U.S. economy in the third and fourth quarters of the year — even as the death toll from the coronavirus continues to rise and the virus spreads to new areas of the country. Health officials remain concerned about an increase of cases in places like Chicago and Des Moines, Iowa.
“I believe we can be in a very different place in late May or early June,” Pence said. “We’re going to start to look at the Memorial Day window to transition back to having our agencies manage our response in a more traditional manner.”
Top officials on Tuesday said they are seeing a decrease in hospitalizations and have already received reopening plans from 41 states so far, which they consider encouraging. Dr. Deborah Birx, one of the top health experts on the task force, said the administration is keeping a close eye on long-term care facilities, group housing, Native American communities, prisons and workers that have group housing, in the hopes of quelling any oubreaks quickly.
All these developments are being taken into account, officials said, as they determine the necessity of the task force moving forward. The future of the task force will be based on the health conditions, aides said. Pence characterized the discussion of dissolving the task force as “preliminary.”
Inside the White House, there has also been discussion of creating a new and smaller group to supplant the task force — focused on developing a vaccine and therapeutics. Pence said this project, dubbed "Operation Warp Speed," is “almost like a Manhattan Project-style effort to develop a vaccine.”
Health officials and other aides inside the White House are not happy about the upcoming dissolution of the task force, given the ongoing spread of the virus, said one source familiar with the discussions. But in recent days the task force had been meeting less frequently as a group, said a second person familiar with the task force.
“We're all still talking to each other, but we're just not coming together every day for an hour and a half to talk at each other as a group,” the person added. “For the health folks who are doing this stuff day to day, maybe from their perspective, this is more of a stand down.”
The unwinding of the task force was first reported by The New York Times.
Not only this, but the suit standing behind him who has no expression and nothing to say appears to be lifeless and soulless.
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I will only wear a mask if required to go into a store.
Which is why I don't put one on until right before I enter a store and take it off as soon as possible after leaving. Wearing a mask is a pain when you also wear glasses and hearing aids. The elastic on the masks which goes around the ears gets tangled into them.
I think you missed where I made it clear I was wearing a mask for the protection of other folks more so than for my own protection. As best as I know, I don't have the virus, but if I did, there's a good chance I wouldn't have symptoms since I seem to be immune to the flu....having never knowingly had it during my entire lifetime.
The risk I took getting sucked off that one time when I was young and careless was negligible as compared to walking around in a crowd of people almost daily, who might be infected with COVID-19.
FYI, since you have no investment in my health, either now or in the past, why did you bother to reply to my post? Seems more like you were looking for an opportunity to say something about glory holes. Perhaps you have some issues you aren't aware of.
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see "walls of text" and stop reacting like a snowflake
FAIL
I post articles on Politics page -
So again - which post is BS?
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FAIL
I post articles on Politics page -
So again - which post is BS?
did I say SCS was bs?
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Which is why I don't put one on until right before I enter a store and take it off as soon as possible after leaving. Wearing a mask is a pain when you also wear glasses and hearing aids. The elastic on the masks which goes around the ears gets tangled into them.
I think you missed where I made it clear I was wearing a mask for the protection of other folks more so than for my own protection. As best as I know, I don't have the virus, but if I did, there's a good chance I wouldn't have symptoms since I seem to be immune to the flu....having never knowingly had it during my entire lifetime.
The risk I took getting sucked off that one time when I was young and careless was negligible as compared to walking around in a crowd of people almost daily, who might be infected with COVID-19.
FYI, since you have no investment in my health, either now or in the past, why did you bother to reply to my post? Seems more like you were looking for an opportunity to say something about glory holes. Perhaps you have some issues you aren't aware of.
There are plenty of times on here where I've provided covid information weeks if not months before data became available to support it or it become common knowledge (see below). There are also posts where I gave you solid health advice. I also enjoy trolling, so why not kill 2 birds with one stone?
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You're talking about people in the west are so narcissistic, and people not being able to cope. You're actually giving us a great example of this in this very thread.
People die regardless, this virus might just cut short some peoples time here by a decade or so. But this isn't a plague and humans aren't going go extinct cos of it.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11467696/coronavirus-takes-years-off-peoples-lives-before-died-naturally/
Coronavirus takes 13 years off people’s lives – more than a decade before they would have died naturally, finds study
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11467696/coronavirus-takes-years-off-peoples-lives-before-died-naturally/
Coronavirus takes 13 years off people’s lives – more than a decade before they would have died naturally, finds study
If at the end of the year the overall death toll is similar to previous years then we can assume that the virus has had little impact on overall mortality, its likely the people dying now of covid would have probably died later this year anyway,, the vast majority had 4 or more serious health issues to start with.
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Murphy extends N.J. coronavirus public-health emergency for 30 days. State of emergency remains in effect.
Gov. Phil Murphy announced Wednesday he’s extending the public-health emergency he declared in New Jersey over the coronavirus pandemic by 30 days.
Murphy declared both a state of emergency and a public-health emergency on March 9 as the pandemic was beginning to spread in New Jersey. He extended that order about a month later on April 7.
The executive order he signed Wednesday will keep it in place through at least June 5, the governor’s office said.
The state of emergency remains in place indefinitely, but the governor said the public-health emergency expires after 30 days.
“I want to make it absolutely clear that this action does not mean that we are seeing anything in the data which would pause our path forward and it should not be interpreted by anyone to mean we are going to be tightening any of the restrictions currently in place,” Murphy said at his daily coronavirus briefing in Trenton.
“This ensures we will continue on our current war footing for the coming month,” he aded. “The conditions underpinning this declaration have not changed — we are still in a public health emergency.”
Murphy also stressed that the state needs to continue to practice social distancing, including staying at home as much as possible, while keeping six feet away from people and wear a face mask when you go out.
“Remember, in the absence of a vaccine, or even proven therapeutics for COVID-19, our only cure is social distancing,” he said. “And we know that the efforts of millions of you are working.”
A state of emergency gives state authorities certain executive powers and safeguards to respond to a crisis. It also allows the state to receive federal aid.
A public-health emergency allows the governor to take action under the Emergency Health Powers Act. The order Murphy signed Tuesday extending it also “extends all actions taken by” any department of New Jersey’s executive branch in response to the virus, the governor’s office said.
New Jersey is in its seventh week of unprecedented restrictions after Murphy ordered residents to stay home, banned gatherings, and mandating nonessential businesses close to fight the virus. The governor made his first major step to lifting the orders this past weekend, as he allowed state and county parks and golf courses to reopen, with restrictions.
Some lawmakers, business leaders, and residents, are pushing Murphy to further loosen his orders as Memorial Day draws near — including allowing some stores to reopen with either curbside service or other social-distancing guidelines.
That’s as the state grapples with hundreds of thousands of people filing for unemployment and businesses suffer untold revenue losses.
But Murphy said Tuesday more progress needs to be made before he can further remove restrictions because cases and deaths continue to rise and social distancing remains the best tool to battle the virus. He also said he does not have a more definitive timeline.
“We gotta do it right,” the governor said. “We’ve got to do it responsibly, we’ve got to do it safely, and we are committed to that ... frankly, whether you like that or not.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/05/murphy-extends-nj-coronavirus-public-health-emergency-for-30-days-state-of-emergency-remains-in-effect.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&fbclid=IwAR1aSW8I5WxV9uKu6bx9qqfwDzQ1wngHubAZARY2D2sIztlFFYlLb_QQIww&fbclid=IwAR0rDg04KrRMnIUIps-Ng7YD_GvBpc4lgPqsUCzByznYta3qIuEJeSI2EE0&fbclid=IwAR0usjNJHql1TeDr6MhtD60DZnHBU_XBnaSO31jH-KDa9lHF3oj0_-eiOjM
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If at the end of the year the overall death toll is similar to previous years then we can assume that the virus has had little impact on overall mortality, its likely the people dying now of covid would have probably died later this year anyway,, the vast majority had 4 or more serious health issues to start with.
The stats for Oregon which were published in today's newspaper, overwhelming show that the deaths in this state have been among those past the age of 60 and with compromising health conditions. Most of these folks were also residents of nursing homes. On a more positive note. The fellow who was the first known case in Oregon was just released from the hospital. Bet he's happy to be home. Many people are sent to nursing homes at the end of their life. One Oregon nursing home has had such a large number of COVID-19 related deaths that the government shut them down.
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Not only this, but the suit standing behind him who has no expression and nothing to say appears to be lifeless and soulless.
Describing yourself !.
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Describing yourself !.
Not that you would know these things about me. I can assure you I am very much alive. As to whether I have soul or not, only time will tell and perhaps those people who actually know me.
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Not that you would know these things about me. I can assure you I am very much alive. As to whether I have soul or not, only time will tell and perhaps those people who actually know me.
Just kill yourself & I'll be ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....................... ........................ ........
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Just kill yourself & I'll be ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....................... ........................ ........
Guess you'll have to remain :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( ........................ .......................
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More much more of her Pls 👍🏻
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Holy Sh1t!! Calling for illuminati - check these out!!!
Danm Mighty Fine Looking - I’d Not be quite so pissed off if I was in lockdown with her,
Hmmm my misses might Not be Quite so Happy about that though. 🤣😂🤣😂
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Danm Mighty Fine Looking - I’d Not be quite so pissed off if I was in lockdown with her,
Hmmm my misses might Not be Quite so Happy about that though. 🤣😂🤣😂
How old are you? Are you not aware that there is maybe only one, if any, woman in this world you could be lockdown with and not go insane?
Wait, is she one of them Japanese robots? If that's the case, then never mind. My bad. :D
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How old are you? Are you not aware that there is maybe only one, if any, woman in this world you could be lockdown with and not go insane?
Wait, is she one of them Japanese robots? If that's the case, then never mind. My bad. :D
And what has my age got to do with it ?
Why what’s your age - Oh wait Honestly I don’t care 😂🤣
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Anti Chinavirus news from tropical Australia:
2500 US Marines get clearance to Northern Territory deployment amid Coronavirus travel ban ! 8)
American boys would loved Christmas on +45'C /115'F 8)
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And what has my age got to do with it ?
Why what’s your age - Oh wait Honestly I don’t care 😂🤣
Younger folk tend to be more optimistic about this kind of crap. :D
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pellius between posts
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Because I leave you speechless now you have to spend your time searching for gifs that are still so lame that now you have to try to explain it. Just like when a guy that tells a joke that goes flat, "Get it? You know, the guy is wearing clown shoes and says...um, well, never mind..."
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Swedens and German numbers are steadily heading lower and lower while America is going sideways. They have managed to do this without shutting down the whole country and committing economic suicide.
While many of us take jabs at Sweden for some of their policies, in this instance they were right and we went fucking retarded.
As a result of this panic way of thinking we are going to suffer economic hardship for a long, long time and the pain it will cause will make us regret putting any faith into any of these bone heads advising these asshat politicians.
If anything we have only postponed what would have happened anyway and now when they start opening up sections of the economy you'll see numbers bump up again, a media induced panic and another shutdown and/or mass social unrest, political divide, etc..
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;D The galactic stupidity continues. HAHAHA!
It was all a shit filled lie. The virus is shit.
I called it from the very beginning.
Some many cowards. So many lies. And it was all shit.
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Not only this, but the suit standing behind him who has no expression and nothing to say appears to be lifeless and soulless.
Don't reply to it....
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;D The galactic stupidity continues. HAHAHA!
It was all a shit filled lie. The virus is shit.
I called it from the very beginning.
Some many cowards. So many lies. And it was all shit.
The virus is very real but the attitude towards it was absolutely wrong.
We don't shut down the whole economy over tens of thousands of deaths from influenza every year. No one seems to care about those people. Corona virus is the exception for some reason.
This virus will burn out through herd immunity but that's hard to happen when you have everyone locked up and scrubbing down everything in sight. If it doesn't burn out then the alternative is to live life with it like we do with murder, cancer, influenza, gun violence, war, etc... and not huddled away like pussies while the system robs you and future generations blind.
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Watch when you have time and take off your masks.
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Younger folk tend to be more optimistic about this kind of crap. :D
What are you rambling on about ? Do you even Know.
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Murphy extends N.J. coronavirus public-health emergency for 30 days. State of emergency remains in effect.
Gov. Phil Murphy announced Wednesday he’s extending the public-health emergency he declared in New Jersey over the coronavirus pandemic by 30 days.
Murphy declared both a state of emergency and a public-health emergency on March 9 as the pandemic was beginning to spread in New Jersey. He extended that order about a month later on April 7.
The executive order he signed Wednesday will keep it in place through at least June 5, the governor’s office said.
The state of emergency remains in place indefinitely, but the governor said the public-health emergency expires after 30 days.
“I want to make it absolutely clear that this action does not mean that we are seeing anything in the data which would pause our path forward and it should not be interpreted by anyone to mean we are going to be tightening any of the restrictions currently in place,” Murphy said at his daily coronavirus briefing in Trenton.
“This ensures we will continue on our current war footing for the coming month,” he aded. “The conditions underpinning this declaration have not changed — we are still in a public health emergency.”
Murphy also stressed that the state needs to continue to practice social distancing, including staying at home as much as possible, while keeping six feet away from people and wear a face mask when you go out.
“Remember, in the absence of a vaccine, or even proven therapeutics for COVID-19, our only cure is social distancing,” he said. “And we know that the efforts of millions of you are working.”
A state of emergency gives state authorities certain executive powers and safeguards to respond to a crisis. It also allows the state to receive federal aid.
A public-health emergency allows the governor to take action under the Emergency Health Powers Act. The order Murphy signed Tuesday extending it also “extends all actions taken by” any department of New Jersey’s executive branch in response to the virus, the governor’s office said.
New Jersey is in its seventh week of unprecedented restrictions after Murphy ordered residents to stay home, banned gatherings, and mandating nonessential businesses close to fight the virus. The governor made his first major step to lifting the orders this past weekend, as he allowed state and county parks and golf courses to reopen, with restrictions.
Some lawmakers, business leaders, and residents, are pushing Murphy to further loosen his orders as Memorial Day draws near — including allowing some stores to reopen with either curbside service or other social-distancing guidelines.
That’s as the state grapples with hundreds of thousands of people filing for unemployment and businesses suffer untold revenue losses.
But Murphy said Tuesday more progress needs to be made before he can further remove restrictions because cases and deaths continue to rise and social distancing remains the best tool to battle the virus. He also said he does not have a more definitive timeline.
“We gotta do it right,” the governor said. “We’ve got to do it responsibly, we’ve got to do it safely, and we are committed to that ... frankly, whether you like that or not.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/05/murphy-extends-nj-coronavirus-public-health-emergency-for-30-days-state-of-emergency-remains-in-effect.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&fbclid=IwAR1aSW8I5WxV9uKu6bx9qqfwDzQ1wngHubAZARY2D2sIztlFFYlLb_QQIww&fbclid=IwAR0rDg04KrRMnIUIps-Ng7YD_GvBpc4lgPqsUCzByznYta3qIuEJeSI2EE0&fbclid=IwAR0usjNJHql1TeDr6MhtD60DZnHBU_XBnaSO31jH-KDa9lHF3oj0_-eiOjM
Geeze.
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What are you rambling on about ? Do you even Know.
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Geeze.
You sound surprised. I hope you arent and that you enjoy the way things are going because either A) we the people remove (by force if necessary) our elected representatives whom clearly are incapable of actually doing their jobs or B) we will be enduring months and likely years of this nonsense. We either have a little fight left in us or we dont. Its that simple.
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You sound surprised. I hope you arent and that you enjoy the way things are going because either A) we the people remove (by force if necessary) our elected representatives whom clearly are incapable of actually doing their jobs or B) we will be enduring months and likely years of this nonsense. We either have a little fight left in us or we dont. Its that simple.
No. Not surprised, but disappointed.
Im hopeful that people will gradually get more proactive in protesting these lockdowns. There's already plenty of stories of people who are being imprisoned for their right to provide for their families by opening up their businesses, while prisoners with serious law offenses are let out for fear of contracting the virus. It's really disgusting what these crooked judges and politicians are doing. They deserve some type of negative consequences for their stupid decision to go against people that want to be free. Isn't that what everyone brags about America being after all, free?
It's promising and I truly admire their courage to defy these dipshits
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First they said it spread through the subways. Now we find out that most of the cases don’t even use the subways.
As I’ve said, eventually we’ll find out that EVERYTHING we’ve been told was wrong:
Most NY coronavirus patients are retired or unemployed, survey finds
Some 83% of the coronavirus patients were retired or unemployed, according to the survey of 1,269 COVID-19 patients at 113 hospitals. Only 17% were employed.
https://news.yahoo.com/hospital-survey-yields-surprising-findings-172402198.html
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Like I said EVERYTHING:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/new-york-deaths-suddenly-spike-by-nearly-1000-amid-apparent-change-in-reporting/2406048/
Results from the state have shown NYPD and FDNY personnel didn't necessarily have higher rates of antibodies than the general public. On Thursday, Cuomo shared results from antibody tests of 27,000 healthcare workers in the downstate area and found similar results. In New York City, 12.2 percent of healthcare workers tested positive, compared with 19.9 percent of the general population. In Westchester, the difference was similar -- 6.8 percent of healthcare workers tested positive for the antibody compared with 13.8 percent of the general population. The difference on Long Island was just 0.3 percent
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don’t even use the subways.
too posh for public transport?
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More than 370 workers at a pork plant in Missouri tested positive for coronavirus. All were asymptomatic
373 employees and contract workers at Triumph Foods in Buchanan County, Missouri, have tested positive for coronavirus. All of them were asymptomatic, according to a press release from the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services.
The state of Missouri has reported 8,386 cases and 352 deaths statewide as of Sunday night, according to the Health Department Website.
Triumph, a pork processing plant, is located in St. Joseph, on the border of Missouri and Kansas.
It is just one of dozens of meat packing plants and food processing facilities across the country that have seen outbreaks of the virus, forcing shutdowns and sparking concerns of possible food shortages.
Ongoing testing at the plant
Testing at the plant has been ongoing since last week and results have been coming in over the past few days, the release from DHSS said.
As of April 30, at least 1,500 had been tested, a previous release said.
"We continue to work this weekend contacting these asymptomatic patients and have initiated the process of contact tracing with those determined to be close contacts of our positive cases," Dr. Randall Williams, director of DHSS, said in the release.
DHSS wants those with symptoms or those who have been in contact with a positive case to reach out to their healthcare provider for testing.
17% of employees tested positive
Mark Campbell, CEO of Triumph Foods, thanked employees for undergoing testing in a video message Sunday. "Being swabbed wasn't much fun, yet the test results will be critical to helping us understand where the coronavirus is in our facility and our communities."
Those with positive test results have been asked to stay home and self-isolate. They will be paid under the company's Covid wage continuation policy, according to Campbell.
The company is also providing care packages, including hand sanitizer and face masks, to infected workers. In an effort to slow the spread, the company continues to deep clean, sanitize and disinfect the facility, Campbell said.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html?utm_term=15885882614254e14097d757c&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Monday%2C+May+4%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=203234_1588588261439&bt_ee=CFmquP9Y6epafI%2FhyAEatVICvfTCzI07U0aHOGrYvcbezKHgTkhDKfR%2FzTzKuHil&bt_ts=1588588261439
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Chinese either cut those checks or Get Some Baby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI&list=FLPyjbrWSPuvXAPTvV6zB_uQ&index=5&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI&list=FLPyjbrWSPuvXAPTvV6zB_uQ&index=5&t=0s)
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The greatest damage was already done.
First it was Bush and Obama who robbed the public by bailing out the financial industry, with no one going to prison over causing the blow up.
Now it's Trump and the democrats who just robbed trillions more for their criminal friends. The greatest theft of all time.
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Tough times dont last tough people do!!
I see a lot of crying and whining in this thread!
The comeback is always greater than the setback!
I see great things in store for those who endure!!
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The greatest damage was already done.
First it was Bush and Obama who robbed the public by bailing out the financial industry, with no one going to prison over causing the blow up.
Now it's Trump and the democrats who just robbed trillions more for their criminal friends. The greatest theft of all time.
It's nothing new.
The banks and savings & loans got bailed out hugely before that in the early 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
"The federal government ultimately appropriated $105 billion to resolve the crisis. After banks repaid loans through various procedures, there was an estimated net loss to taxpayers of somewhere between ($123.8–132.1) 124 and 132 billion dollars by the end of 1999."
$200+ billion in today's dollars.
What happens to all that money? Some goes into the banksters' pockets and most goes back into the economy to keep things moving.
Without such an action you'd have serious Great Depression. So it's bad medicine but you have to take it.
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YOUR LOVE IS LIKE BAD MEDICINE !!!
BAD MEDICINE IS WHAT I NEED WHAOOAA!!
If a great depression was so bad it would be great!
BRING IT ON PEOPLE
SATTLE UP
FOR THE RIIIIIDE OF YOUR LIIIIIIFE YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAA!!!
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You got to get in a position to profit from ineptitude.
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The greatest damage was already done.
First it was Bush and Obama who robbed the public by bailing out the financial industry, with no one going to prison over causing the blow up.
Now it's Trump and the democrats who just robbed trillions more for their criminal friends. The greatest theft of all time.
interesting why was the 2008 bail out so bad and the 2020 so good?
In each case it was /is Big Business swamp dwellers who benefited most
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
This is in my idiot state of NYS. 88% are coming from people staying inside. And yet - look at the graphic from Cuomo to stay in side.
GTFO!
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Cool video however i think its a bit light hearted while the situation at hand is dire. Its not funny and i am not laughing.
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Cool video however i think its a bit light hearted while the situation at hand is dire. Its not funny and i am not laughing.
That's his style but he's actually serious in his criticism.
The clapping part was because people in the UK are encouraged by government to clap at a set time every day to give 'thanks' to the hospitals and nurses, so he's mocking them and comparing to 1984 and the film 'They Live'.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
This is in my idiot state of NYS. 88% are coming from people staying inside. And yet - look at the graphic from Cuomo to stay in side.
GTFO!
Even people who stay home go out to the supermarket, liquor store, get pizza, gas, WalMart, Home Depot, etc.
And lots of high risk group people are going out to buy stuff. All the old folks are out shopping. They're not sitting at home 24/7.
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Even people who stay home go out to the supermarket, liquor store, get pizza, gas, WalMart, Home Depot, etc.
And lots of high risk group people are going out to buy stuff. All the old folks are out shopping. They're not sitting at home 24/7.
IRONAT, even I went out with my mask on to the grocery store and wound up getting the VID!!
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IRONAT, even I went out with my mask on to the grocery store and wound up getting the VID!!
Definitely.
I went out to two different supermarkets today to stock up.
Getbiggers don't mind dying young if they can don the thong and live their brief time on Earth to the fullest.
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Definitely.
I went out to two different supermarkets today to stock up.
Getbiggers don't mind dying young if they can don the thong and live to the fullest.
"I don't care if I die, as long as they bury me in a big fucking box." Animal Pak Ad
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55 African nations (African Union) unites against China , pissed off by Chinese treatment of Afros in China !.
Nigeria already demands $ 200 bilion in compo from China !.
Chings in Arica will get fucked by locals :D
Hey, where is Wiggzy, Vince G & others who love complaining about white race !!!.
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Definitely.
I went out to two different supermarkets today to stock up.
Getbiggers don't mind dying young if they can don the thong and live their brief time on Earth to the fullest.
Damn straight!
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It's nothing new.
The banks and savings & loans got bailed out hugely before that in the early 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
"The federal government ultimately appropriated $105 billion to resolve the crisis. After banks repaid loans through various procedures, there was an estimated net loss to taxpayers of somewhere between ($123.8–132.1) 124 and 132 billion dollars by the end of 1999."
$200+ billion in today's dollars.
What happens to all that money? Some goes into the banksters' pockets and most goes back into the economy to keep things moving.
Without such an action you'd have serious Great Depression. So it's bad medicine but you have to take it.
Lol the problems weren't dealt with. There was no medicine, there was a bandaid over a gunshot wound. How much value does the money lose before it reaches the common person? It's eaten away at through inflation. We always pay more and more for less and less. Less of us can afford a home, to raise a family., feeed kids, go on a trip etc...
We are in big trouble and there is going to be serious lasting pain that won't change until there a radical shift in the way the system runs today.
Too many monopolies, too many inept politicians in charge for decades getting rich, too many uninformed people watching partisan media outlets that flat out lie to them with their own vested business interests at heart.
Crumbs for the average American.
Im not asking for anyone's earned wealth to be confiscated or for a handout, just stop fucking me and lying to my face about it. That's all.
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Even people who stay home go out to the supermarket, liquor store, get pizza, gas, WalMart, Home Depot, etc.
And lots of high risk group people are going out to buy stuff. All the old folks are out shopping. They're not sitting at home 24/7.
No they’re not. The buses in New York City are over 90% empty. The only people riding them are essential workers who are reporting lower hospitalization rates that the rest of the population. Moreover, the few elderly people I’ve seen in the past month has been wearing a mask. The lockdown was, is and always will be a sham.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
This is in my idiot state of NYS. 88% are coming from people staying inside. And yet - look at the graphic from Cuomo to stay in side.
GTFO!
Both him and his brother should be thrown out into the street and savagely beaten. I'm dead serious. What stinking hubris from these two douchebags. Both are vile scum.
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55 African nations (African Union) unites against China , pissed off by Chinese treatment of Afros in China !.
Nigeria already demands $ 200 bilion in compo from China !.
Chings in Arica will get fucked by locals :D
Hey, where is Wiggzy, Vince G & others who love complaining about white race !!!.
Lmao if they think the Chinese give a fuck about what the Nigerians think.... The Chinese are making power moves all the time, all over the world, while the west sits on its thumbs or many cases help China worm their way in. .
The rest of us get sold out big time.
They don't give a flying fuck about you. The faster we learn this the quicker we will actually do something about it.
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Even people who stay home go out to the supermarket, liquor store, get pizza, gas, WalMart, Home Depot, etc.
And lots of high risk group people are going out to buy stuff. All the old folks are out shopping. They're not sitting at home 24/7.
Possibly, but home delivery and curbside pickup are options many of us are using.
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https://www.facebook.com/munawarwmalik/videos/1432398130280439/
Cares act written a year ago?????
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No they’re not. The buses in New York City are over 90% empty. The only people riding them are essential workers who are reporting lower hospitalization rates that the rest of the population. Moreover, the few elderly people I’ve seen in the past month has been wearing a mask. The lockdown was, is and always will be a sham.
Not where i live.
The buses from the 55+ communities pull up to the supermarket doors.
There are lots of seniors in the supermarkets.
Yes, the lockdown is a joke as lots of people are still out and about commingling their germs.
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we are all being fooled
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Possibly, but home delivery and curbside pickup are options many of us are using.
Possibly?
No, for real.
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Spoke to a doctor today, a specialist, says he now has 10 % of his usual work. The hospital he works at is extremely quiet.
His opinion was this is hyped out of all proportion and majority of people don't even show any symptoms.
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Spoke to a doctor today, a specialist, says he now has 10 % of his usual work. The hospital he works at is extremely quiet.
His opinion was this is hyped out of all proportion and majority of people don't even show any symptoms.
The story changes daily. We were told it spread through the subways then we find out that most the hospitalizations were among people who didn’t even take the subway:
MIT study: Subways a 'major disseminator' of coronavirus in NYC
https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/mit-study-subways-a-major-disseminator-of-coronavirus-in-nyc/amp/
Cuomo: Most new NY coronavirus hospitalizations are from people who stayed home
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
"This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home," he added. "We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we've taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home."
Cuomo said nearly 84% of the hospitalized cases were people who were not commuting to work through car services, personal cars, public transit or walking. He said a majority of those people were either retired or unemployed. Overall, some 73% of the admissions were people over age 51.
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Here (in the middle part of Europe) a local guy said his buddy‘s grandmother had died of cancer and the hospital called them and asked if they could tag her as a COVID19 victim. They said they would take care of the funeral expenses if they allowed them to do so.
Even doctors in the USA are coming out with being pressured to mark their patients with the corona.
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Here (in the middle part of Europe) a local guy said his buddy‘s grandmother had died of cancer and the hospital called them and asked if they could tag her as a COVID19 victim. They said they would take care of the funeral expenses if they allowed them to do so.
Even doctors in the USA are coming out with being pressured to mark their patients with the corona.
Your statement is pointless unless you say what country prefers to pay for funerals rather than report reliable statistics ?
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Slovenian Slavslavistad. They all wear tunics and have bags under their eyes.
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Here (in the middle part of Europe) a local guy said his buddy‘s grandmother had died of cancer and the hospital called them and asked if they could tag her as a COVID19 victim. They said they would take care of the funeral expenses if they allowed them to do so.
Even doctors in the USA are coming out with being pressured to mark their patients with the corona.
Gee, what a surprise.
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
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Possibly?
No, for real.
Okay, not possibly. My point was that not all people are out and about with a 'to hell with this virus shit' kind of attitude.
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Okay, not possibly. My point was that not all people are out and about with a 'to hell with this virus shit' kind of attitude.
Yeah old gay cowards like you are hiding in their closet. No pun intended.
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Okay, not possibly. My point was that not all people are out and about with a 'to hell with this virus shit' kind of attitude.
Your life is really Sagging more & more ;D ;D ;D
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L.A. County could keep stay-at-home orders in place well into summer, depending on conditions
Los Angeles County’s stay-at-home orders will “with all certainty” be extended for the next three months, county Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged during a Board of Supervisors meeting Tuesday.
Ferrer later added that even if the orders remain in place through the summer, it was still possible some restrictions could be eased if conditions improve.
“We are being guided by science and data that will safely move us forward along the road to recovery in a measured way—one that allows us to ensure that effective distancing and infection control measures are in place,” Ferrer said.
Testifying before the Board of Superviros, Ferrer stressed further progress will be guided by efforts to contain the virus. Los Angeles County is now the Calfornia epicenter of the coronavirus, with more than 1,300 deaths so far.
“Our hope is that by using the data, we’d be able to slowly lift restrictions over the next three months,” she said. But without widely available testing for the coronavirus or rapid home kits that would allow people to test themselves daily, it seems unlikely that the social distancing directives and stay-at-home orders would be completely eased.
On Tuesday afternoon, Los Angeles County Supervisor Kathryn Barger also expressed hope there could be more easing in coming weeks.
“I am eager to reopen more of L.A. County as soon as it’s safe to do so, in collaboration with our health experts, community leaders, businesses and residents, with best practices in place to ensure our overall health and well-being. These decisions will be guided by the latest science and data collected,” she said in a statement."I’m confident that the more our communities continue to comply, the sooner we can resume normalcy.”
Ferrer’s comments came shortly before Gov. Gavin Newsom announced that he was modifying the state’s stay-at-home orders to allow individual counties to approve the reopening of malls for curbside pickup service only. The order also allows for the reopening of some offices if teleworking is not feasible.
“We aren’t out of the woods yet,” Newsom reminded residents.
In L.A. County, confirmed cases and deaths have continued to rise.
When beaches reopen this week, how people can use the sand will look different. Face coverings will be required when not in the water, and sunbathing won’t be allowed. Only active recreation — surfing, running, walking and swimming — will be permitted. Coolers, chairs, umbrellas and any of the other accessories that typically dot the shoreline should be left at home.
The update to L.A.'s stay-at-home orders comes as officials try to meet two needs: restarting the economy under a new normal while also ensuring that the resurgence in activity doesn’t upend progress in the fight against the coronavirus.
There has been a big push in recent weeks to reopen the state’s economy, which has been hurt by the stay-at-home orders. Newsom last week announced new protocols for retail stores and some workplaces to reopen.
Under the plan, some in-restaurant dining, car washes and shopping malls could also be allowed to reopen in coming weeks if public health officials in a county are able to demonstrate that the spread of the virus has stabilized and that they have adequate testing and hospital capacity.
Some rural counties that have seen relatively few cases are likely to be able to meet those benchmarks more quickly than urban counties such as Los Angeles.
A Times data analysis last week found most big California counties are not close to meeting Newsom’s standards. The analysis looked at which counties could pass just the first two criteria — whether deaths have stopped in the last 14 days, and whether there is no more than one case per 10,000 residents in that same time period.
Most of California failed that test. In fact, 95% of Californians live in counties that don’t meet that standard, the Times analysis found. Not a single county in Southern California nor the San Francisco Bay Area met the criteria.
Newsom suggested Friday that the guidelines would be later modified on a statewide basis, allowing larger counties hit hardest by the outbreak to also reopen more broadly. “Over the next few weeks, we’ll be making subsequent announcements for the entire state, not just those that meet those more restrictive criteria,” he said.
On Tuesday, he also explained the guidelines for restaurants in some counties to open for dine-in service, including disposable menus and an emphasis on outdoor seating. He also suggested that customers be screened for symptoms.
Also on Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, warned members of the U.S. Senate that states that push too quickly to ease orders could undo progress that would trigger an outbreak. Fauci said a 14-day decline in cases is the major benchmark that states should meet before reopening.
As other California regions have seen a decline in the number of reported infections and COVID-19-related deaths, L.A. County, the state’s most populous, continues to see growth on both fronts. The county reported Tuesday an additional 961 people who tested positive for the virus, and an additional 45 deaths, bringing the death toll to 1,613. L.A. County’s COVID-19 deaths account for more than half of the state’s total.
Officials have noted that the numbers reported at the start of the week are typically lower, largely because testing is not at full capacity on weekends.
Nearly 253,000 individuals of L.A. County’s 10 million residents have been checked for the virus and roughly 11% — more than 32,000 — have been infected. Officials have been encouraging all residents, even those without symptoms, to get tested.
Officials have said that social distancing has helped slow the spread of the virus, but also have warned that it remains contagious.
“It’s safer to stay at home. COVID-19 has not changed,” Ferrer reminded residents Monday.
Some neighboring counties that are easing restrictions also continue to see increases in cases and deaths. Riverside County, where officials voted Friday to lift requirements for face coverings, reported 150 new cases Monday and 12 additional deaths.
In Orange County, 45 more cases and one death were reported Tuesday as the number of hospitalizations — a count that fluctuates by the day depending on how many of the county’s eligible 25 hospitals report statistics — rose to 230.
Meanwhile in Santa Clara County, which was once the hottest spot for infections in the state, the number of cases has declined. Officials reported two additional cases Monday and zero deaths. Santa Clara is one of six Bay Area counties that have extended shelter-in-place orders.
Also Tuesday, the L.A. County Board of Supervisors debated whether to extend the county’s eviction moratorium to help renters who may be struggling financially because of the pandemic. Supervisors Sheila Kuehl and Hilda Solis proposed extending it until Aug. 31.
Kuehl said she based her proposed date off the Department of Public Health’s guidance that at least some of the stay-at-home restrictions would be extended for the next three months. She added that the board’s need to vote on the moratorium every month would create “amazing anxiety” for renters.
“Obviously our tenants are suffering extreme pain right now,” Solis said.
Supervisors Kathryn Barger and Janice Hahn submitted an amendment to extend the rent eviction moratorium until only the end of June. The board passed that amendment, 3-2, with Kuehl and Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas voting against it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-12/coronavirus-beaches-reopen-los-angeles-county-move-toward-new-normal?fbclid=IwAR0jAeB_rZcwLnxoi_9VKrpn9Qi3nD9M1lZxn1sK3wE9V3EDiHqf4OehfM8
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55 African nations (African Union) unites against China , pissed off by Chinese treatment of Afros in China !.
Nigeria already demands $ 200 bilion in compo from China !.
Chings in Arica will get fucked by locals :D
Hey, where is Wiggzy, Vince G & others who love complaining about white race !!!.
Sir Wiggins was working as a PT. Probably had to sell his computer.
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Both him and his brother should be thrown out into the street and savagely beaten. I'm dead serious. What stinking hubris from these two douchebags. Both are vile scum.
Cuomo is certainly a c unt!
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Cuomo is certainly a c unt!
yes but dem' nipple rings bling bling
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Yeah old gay cowards like you are hiding in their closet. No pun intended.
If hiding it the closet saves me from contracting COVID-19 then being gay and hiding in the closet has it's benefits. lucky for me I have a large walk-in closet.
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Your life is really Sagging more & more ;D ;D ;D
You got that right if sagging is a metaphor for stir-crazy.
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its probably fake news but the NY times is suggesting the infection rate is increasing in small town and rural areas
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#hotspots (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#hotspots)
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its probably fake news but the NY times is suggesting the infection rate is increasing in small town and rural areas
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#hotspots (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#hotspots)
I’m still waiting for an explanation for why there are so many asymptomatic cases.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
More than 370 workers at a pork plant in Missouri tested positive for coronavirus. All were asymptomatic
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It’s not about the virus. It never was:
Democrats unveil $3 trillion Covid relief package and plan to vote this week - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/3-trillion-aid-package-democrats-house/index.html
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It’s not about the virus. It never was:
Democrats unveil $3 trillion Covid relief package and plan to vote this week - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/3-trillion-aid-package-democrats-house/index.html
it was written last year..https://www.facebook.com/munawarwmalik/videos/1432398130280439/
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Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s
Herd Immunity Is the Only Realistic Option—The Question Is How to Get There Safely
By Nils Karlson, Charlotta Stern, and Daniel B. Klein
May 12, 2020
Students celebrate their graduation in Stockholm, April 2020
Andres Kudacki / The New York Times / Redux
China placed 50 million people under quarantine in Wuhan Province in January. Since then, many liberal democracies have taken aggressive authoritarian measures of their own to fight the novel coronavirus. By mid-March, almost all Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries had implemented some combination of school, university, workplace, and public transportation closures; restrictions on public events; and limits on domestic and international travel. One country, however, stands out as an exception in the West.
Rather than declare a lockdown or a state of emergency, Sweden asked its citizens to practice social distancing on a mostly voluntary basis. Swedish authorities imposed some restrictions designed to flatten the curve: no public gatherings of more than 50 people, no bar service, distance learning in high schools and universities, and so on. But they eschewed harsh controls, fines, and policing. Swedes have changed their behavior, but not as profoundly as the citizens of other Western democracies. Many restaurants remain open, although they are lightly trafficked; young children are still in school. And in contrast to neighboring Norway (and some Asian countries), Sweden has not introduced location-tracing technologies or apps, thus avoiding threats to privacy and personal autonomy.
Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, has projected that the city of Stockholm could reach herd immunity as early as this month. Based on updated behavioral assumptions (social-distancing norms are changing how Swedes behave), the Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.
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Sweden has won praise in some quarters for preserving at least some semblance of economic normalcy and keeping its per capita death rate lower than those of Belgium, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, and the United Kingdom. But it has come in for criticism in other quarters for exceeding the per capita death rates of other Nordic countries and in particular, for failing to protect its elderly and immigrant populations. People receiving nursing and elder-care services account for upward of 50 percent of COVID-19 deaths in Sweden, according to Tegnell, in part because many facilities were grievously slow to implement basic protective measures such as mask wearing. Immigrants have also suffered disproportionately, mainly because they are poorer on average and tend to work in the service sector, where working remotely is usually impossible. But Swedish authorities have argued that the country’s higher death rate will appear comparatively lower in hindsight. Efforts to contain the virus are doomed to fail in many countries, and a large percentage of people will be infected in the end. When much of the world experiences a deadly second wave, Sweden will have the worst of the pandemic behind it.
When much of the world experiences a deadly second wave, Sweden will have the worst of the pandemic behind it.
Sweden’s response has not been perfect, but it has succeeded in bolstering immunity among the young and the healthy—those at the lowest risk of serious complications from COVID-19—while also flattening the curve. The country’s intensive care units have not been overrun, and hospital staffs, although under strain, have at least not had to juggle additional childcare responsibilities because daycares and lower schools continue to operate.
Whether or not they have openly embraced the Swedish approach, many other countries are now trying to emulate aspects of it. Both Denmark and Finland have reopened schools for young children. Germany is allowing small shops to reopen. Italy will soon reopen parks, and France has a plan to allow some nonessential businesses to reopen, including farmers’ markets and small museums, as well as schools and daycare centers. In the United States, which has by far the highest absolute number of reported COVID-19 deaths, several states are easing restrictions at the urging of President Donald Trump, who despite bashing the Swedish model, is pushing the country toward something very similar.
There are good reasons for countries to begin easing their restrictions. It will take several years to tally the total number of deaths, bankruptcies, layoffs, suicides, mental health problems, losses to GDP and investments, and other costs attributable not just to the virus but to the measures used to fight it. It should already be obvious, however, that the economic and social costs of lockdowns are enormous: estimates from the OECD suggest that every month of pandemic-related restrictions will shrink the economies of advanced countries by two percent. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States, according to the OECD, will see their economies shrink by more than 25 percent within a year. Unemployment is rising to levels unheard of since the 1930s—fueling political backlash and deepening social divisions.
Lockdowns are simply not sustainable for the amount of time that it will likely take to develop a vaccine.
Lockdowns are simply not sustainable for the amount of time that it will likely take to develop a vaccine. Letting up will reduce economic, social, and political pressures. It may also allow populations to build an immunity that will end up being the least bad way of fighting COVID-19 in the long run. Much about the disease remains poorly understood, but countries that are locked down now could very well face new and even more severe outbreaks down the road. If these countries follow the Swedish path to herd immunity, the total cost of the pandemic will decrease, and it will likely end sooner.
Sweden’s approach to COVID-19 reflects the country’s distinctive culture, and aspects of it may not be easy to replicate elsewhere. In particular, reliance on official recommendations and individual responsibility may not travel well beyond Scandinavia. Sweden is a special country characterized by high levels of trust—not just between people but between people and government institutions. Swedes were primed to take voluntary recommendations seriously in a way that citizens of other nations may not be.
Swedes are also generally healthier than citizens of many other countries, so additional precautions may be necessary to protect the infirm in other parts of the world. Countries lifting restrictions should also learn from Sweden’s missteps when it comes to the elderly and immigrants: masks and other protective equipment should be made immediately available in nursing homes, and greater emphasis should be placed on protecting service-sector workers who are at higher risk because of age or infirmity. But the emphasis must be on helping at-risk people stay safe and out of harm’s way, not locking entire societies down.
As scientists learn more about the virus and authorities develop new and better ways to work around the contagion—altering the parameters for calculating herd immunity to account for behavioral changes, for instance—the justification for general lockdowns grows weaker and weaker. Even in places like the United States and the United Kingdom, where the pool of at-risk people is much larger, the cost of protecting these people is much lower than forcing everyone to stay home. Managing the path to herd immunity means, above all, protecting the vulnerable. Sweden learned that the hard way, but the situation there is now under control.
As the pain of national lockdowns grows intolerable and countries realize that managing—rather than defeating—the pandemic is the only realistic option, more and more of them will begin to open up. Smart social distancing to keep health-care systems from being overwhelmed, improved therapies for the afflicted, and better protections for at-risk groups can help reduce the human toll. But at the end of the day, increased—and ultimately, herd—immunity may be the only viable defense against the disease, so long as vulnerable groups are protected along the way. Whatever marks Sweden deserves for managing the pandemic, other nations are beginning to see that it is ahead of the curve.
AUTHOR BIO
NILS KARLSON is Professor of Political Science at Linköping University and President and CEO of the Ratio Institute.
CHARLOTTA STERN is Professor of Sociology in Work and Organization at Stockholm University and Deputy CEO of the Ratio Institute.
DANIEL B. KLEIN is Professor of Economics and JIN Chair at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University and Associate Fellow of the Ratio Institute.
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What we should have done all along. In a pandemic you quarantine the sick not the healthy. What else should we expect in this ass backwards culture?
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you trust CNN?
meanwhile
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the asymptomatics are transitioning into thin lizards before the terrapins take over
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/believe-it-or-not-ripley-the-terrapin-fails-to-relieve-lockdown-stress-998507.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/believe-it-or-not-ripley-the-terrapin-fails-to-relieve-lockdown-stress-998507.html)
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Wait what? Are we transforming into thin Lizards?
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Wait what? Are we transforming into thin Lizards?
The virus mutates on a daily basis in order to conform to the narrative.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8312771/Male-coronavirus-patients-low-testosterone-levels-likely-die-COVID-19.html
Go figure!!!!!
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you trust CNN?
meanwhile
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5244570.ece/alternates/s615b/PAY-thin-lizard.jpg)
the asymptomatics are transitioning into thin lizards before the terrapins take over
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/believe-it-or-not-ripley-the-terrapin-fails-to-relieve-lockdown-stress-998507.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/believe-it-or-not-ripley-the-terrapin-fails-to-relieve-lockdown-stress-998507.html)
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Would you prefer FOX?
Nearly 400 workers at Missouri pork plant, all asymptomatic, test positive for coronavirus – FOX6Now.com
https://fox6now.com/2020/05/05/nearly-400-workers-at-missouri-pork-plant-all-asymptomatic-test-positive-for-coronavirus/
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Would you prefer FOX?
Nearly 400 workers at Missouri pork plant, all asymptomatic, test positive for coronavirus – FOX6Now.com
https://fox6now.com/2020/05/05/nearly-400-workers-at-missouri-pork-plant-all-asymptomatic-test-positive-for-coronavirus/
What the hell is with all these cases in meat factories? It's fucking digusting. I cant imagine the stink and shit enviroment it must be.
Think I'm gonna pay more and stick with local butcher with some ethical farming practices. Fuck these huge slaughter shit holes.
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Climate Dwarf is yet another media appointed expert.
The Gullible: "Oh yeah, I'd like to see you to sit down and debate her."
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nfs6sg5j/EX6-CUJl-UEAA-Sl6.jpg)
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Analysis of Virginia COVID-19 Data
Virginia Department of Health ^ | 5-13-20 | jhl
Posted on 5/13/2020, 12:15:13 PM by JHL
The Virginia Department of Health recently added more detailed demographic and outbreak data to its Coronavirus data website.
The website only reports numbers, not percentages; but by doing a little simple math, interesting facts present themselves:
Statistics for Long-term Care Facilities (e.g. Nursing Homes):
58.8% of all deaths in Virginia were associated with Long-term care facilities.
Contracting the virus in a long-term care facility is not an automatic death sentence:
85.6% of patients who contract the virus in a long-term care facility survive.
This is contrary to the perception we are given, that outbreaks in a nursing home inevitably result in total death of all residents in the facility.
Death by age group:
91.4% of all deaths in Virginia were age 60 or above
If you are 60+, and catch the virus, you had a 87.8% chance of recovering.
If your are under age 60 and catch the virus, you had a 99.6% chance of recovering.
Statistical retrospective survival rate by age group (the probability that you would survive the disease if you were to contract COVID-19):
Age Group Survival Rate
80+ 75.7%
70-79 87.5%
60-69 95.4%
50-59 98.9%
40-49 99.6%
30-39 99.9%
20-29 99.9%
0-19 100%
As of this date, of the 927 reported deaths, no one in Virginia under the age of 20 has died from COVID-19.
Virginia's website does not report co-morbidity data, but it would be interesting to analyze the numbers associated with survival and no co-morbidity.
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GTFO - you got to be kidding me. WTF
Climate Dwarf is yet another media appointed expert.
The Gullible: "Oh yeah, I'd like to see you to sit down and debate her."
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nfs6sg5j/EX6-CUJl-UEAA-Sl6.jpg)
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What the hell is with all these cases in meat factories? It's fucking digusting. I cant imagine the stink and shit enviroment it must be.
Think I'm gonna pay more and stick with local butcher with some ethical farming practices. Fuck these huge slaughter shit holes.
My guess is that there is something else about working in that environment that causes them to come up positive on the test. It just doesn’t make sense that everybody would be asymptomatic. What does make sense is that the tests are flawed.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8312771/Male-coronavirus-patients-low-testosterone-levels-likely-die-COVID-19.html
Go figure!!!!!
Toxic masculinity.
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And the disgraceful embarrassment continues across America.
The weak, stupid, cowards are winning.
The virus remains a joke. The shut down is only beginning to show its devastation.
Burn your mask.
Kill your television.
Do not stay home.
Do not social distance.
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And the disgraceful embarrassment continues across America.
The weak, stupid, cowards are winning.
The virus remains a joke. The shut down is only beginning to show its devastation.
Burn your mask.
Kill your television.
Do not stay home.
Do not social distance.
Enjoy jail.
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I don't see the problem.
Before the Coronavirus I was staying home in my basement and not meeting people.
And now I'm staying home in my basement and not meeting people.
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I don't see the problem.
Before the Coronavirus I was staying home in my basement and not meeting people.
And now I'm staying home in my basement and not meeting people.
Introverts lives haven't changed at all. It is the norm.
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What we should have done all along. In a pandemic you quarantine the sick not the healthy. What else should we expect in this ass backwards culture?
It is no different now. The sick are quarantined. -Problem is, it's not always obvious who's sick and who isn't. Wearing a mask and avoiding going out is not being in quarantine. Whether the government should shut down the economy (and businesses) in an effort to avoid the spread of the virus is a different issue.
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Oldest woman in Spain (113 years old) survives Coronavirus.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/europe/spain-oldest-woman-coronavirus-survivor-scli-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/europe/spain-oldest-woman-coronavirus-survivor-scli-intl/index.html)
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Covid-19 is so brutal a 113 year old woman "survives" it. ::)
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My guess is that there is something else about working in that environment that causes them to come up positive on the test. It just doesn’t make sense that everybody would be asymptomatic. What does make sense is that the tests are flawed.
Or all of them had the virus but showed zero symptoms like the majority of people.
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Covid-19 is so brutal a 113 year old woman "survives" it. ::)
Yeah, how about that? One very old lady survives it and millions of other young, middle aged, old and/or sick people don't. COVID-19 is definitely not "brutal." ::) ::)
Whatever that 113 year old woman is doing she's must be doing it right. -Wish she'd let me in on her secret.
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Yeah, how about that? One very old lady survives it and millions of other young, middle aged, old and/or sick people don't. COVID-19 is definitely not "brutal." ::) ::)
Whatever that 113 year old woman is doing she's must be doing it right. -Wish she'd let me in on her secret.
Just like millions die from the flu and it's not treated like the Kung Flu.
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Broadway actor Nick Cordero wakes from coma
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52645276
A Broadway actor who had his right leg amputated while fighting Covid-19 has woken up from a medically induced coma, his wife has revealed.
The 41-year old Canadian actor, who was nominated for a Tony Award for the Bullets Over Broadway musical, has been in hospital in Los Angeles since the end of March.
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Broadway actor Nick Cordero wakes from coma
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52645276
A Broadway actor who had his right leg amputated while fighting Covid-19 has woken up from a medically induced coma, his wife has revealed.
The 41-year old Canadian actor, who was nominated for a Tony Award for the Bullets Over Broadway musical, has been in hospital in Los Angeles since the end of March.
no, he had his right leg amputated and picked up covid (possibly) whilst in hospital
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Just like millions die from the flu and it's not treated like the Kung Flu.
So, if I understand you correctly, you think the whole COVID-19 pandemic is nonsense. Can you explain how the entire world has been duped by this virus? Has pretty much everyone of world's leadership lost their common sense? If you were the ruler of the world, how would you handle the COVID-19 situation?
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So, if I understand you correctly, you think the whole COVID-19 pandemic is nonsense. Can you explain how the entire world has been duped by this virus? Has pretty much everyone of world's leadership lost their common sense? If you were the ruler of the world, how would you handle the COVID-19 situation?
As usual you miss the boat. The worlds governments get to devalue their currencies and run up debt via government spending. Why wouldn’t they want to do this?
Democrats unveil $3 trillion Covid relief package and plan to vote this week - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/3-trillion-aid-package-democrats-house/index.html
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Yeah, how about that? One very old lady survives it and millions of other young, middle aged, old and/or sick people don't. COVID-19 is definitely not "brutal." ::) ::)
Whatever that 113 year old woman is doing she's must be doing it right. -Wish she'd let me in on her secret.
At 113 I'd imagine waking up daily with all sorts of aches and pains, no thanks.
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At 113 I'd imagine waking up daily with all sorts of aches and pains, no thanks.
Ah, the power of suggestion even when you're telling yourself something. If you believe the aches and pains of old age will be more than you can handle, it will most likely be a self-fulfilling prophesy. Here's to not having a long life!
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Any info on where this meeting took place?
You know the meeting where every government on the planet decided to come together (for the first time in world history) and agree on this evil plan?
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Yeah, how about that? One very old lady survives it and millions of other young, middle aged, old and/or sick people don't. COVID-19 is definitely not "brutal." ::) ::)
Whatever that 113 year old woman is doing she's must be doing it right. -Wish she'd let me in on her secret.
She's not on junky American diet & don't watch TV all day long 8). OBW ,she was Francisco Franco (>>>>) supporter :D.
Take a small cup of Sulfuric Acid 1 X per day to kill all viruses/germs !. (trust me on this 1)
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So, if I understand you correctly, you think the whole COVID-19 pandemic is nonsense. Can you explain how the entire world has been duped by this virus? Has pretty much everyone of world's leadership lost their common sense? If you were the ruler of the world, how would you handle the COVID-19 situation?
Inform yourself about #. of dead (from Kung Flu) per 10 millions in Australia,Thailand or Japan.
God save America is no more !.
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She's not on junky American diet & don't watch TV all day long 8). OBW ,she was Francisco Franco (>>>>) supporter :D.
Take a small cup of Sulfuric Acid 1 X per day to kill all viruses/germs !. (trust me on this 1)
Is this your best doctorly advice? Forgive me if I will pass on the sulfuric acid remedy for virus and germs. Sorry, no trust for you.
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At 113 I'd imagine waking up daily with all sorts of aches and pains, no thanks.
Depends of genetic & body immune system !.
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Is this your best doctorly advice? Forgive me if I will pass on the sulfuric acid remedy for virus and germs. Sorry, no trust for you.
Future will tell ;)
:D
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Future will tell ;)
:D
It always does.
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Usually its very hard to keep a secret if a lot of people are involved.
Here we got every government on the planet, thats quite a few people.
Any leaks? Or do we have to take getbiggers word for it?
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Usually its very hard to keep a secret if a lot of people are involved.
Here we got every government on the planet, thats quite a few people.
Any leaks? Or do we have to take getbiggers word for it?
Let's face it, Getbiggers are the folks in the know. :)
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Any info on where this meeting took place?
You know the meeting where every government on the planet decided to come together (for the first time in world history) and agree on this evil plan?
Bilderberg?
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Usually its very hard to keep a secret if a lot of people are involved.
Here we got every government on the planet, thats quite a few people.
Any leaks? Or do we have to take getbiggers word for it?
Davos group, Club de Madrid & Club of Rome ;)
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i wasn't aware Covid-19 has taken millions of lives.... ???
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Imagine if getbig was around during the time of Jonas Salk? We wouldn't have a polio vaccine and herd immunity would have eliminated the dreaded disease. Instead, we have the polio vaccine causing millions if not billions of babies to be born with autism. ???
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(countries not governments have currencies, governments have large but not total control over their countries currencies)
If all worlds governments get to devalue their currencies and run up debt who are the winners and who are the losers?
When currency is devalued (inflated), the winners are those who get the money first before prices start to rise. In this case, it’s the financial establishment and the political class. A lot of money has also gone to the healthcare establishment. Those are the three main players in this scam.
We can go back-and-forth about how much this was planned, but the reality of a currency devaluation and an economic reset is a fact.
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Imagine if getbig was around during the time of Jonas Salk? We wouldn't have a polio vaccine and herd immunity would have eliminated the dreaded disease. Instead, we have the polio vaccine causing millions if not billions of babies to be born with autism. ???
So we keep the economy shut down until a vaccine is discovered? How do you know this will ever happen?
We’re still waiting for a vaccine for aids.
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When currency is devalued (inflated), the winners are those who get the money first before prices start to rise. In this case, it’s the financial establishment and the political class. A lot of money has also gone to the healthcare establishment. Those are the three main players in this scam.
We can go back-and-forth about how much this was planned, but the reality of a currency devaluation and an economic reset is a fact.
a
a devaluation is also a de facto default
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So we keep the economy shut down until a vaccine is discovered? How do you know this will ever happen?
We’re still waiting for a vaccine for aids.
The aids virus mutates into a thousand strains once someone is infected. That’s why. Covid 19 mutates slowly so a vaccine is probable.
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The aids virus mutates into a thousand strains once someone is infected. That’s why. Covid 19 mutates slowly so a vaccine is probable.
...said?
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i wasn't aware Covid-19 has taken millions of lives.... ???
Okay, I exaggerated. :-[ As of today only a mere 291,000 deaths from COVID-19 have been reported. This is out of 4.2 million infections. This is approximately over the past 4 months. There is no end in sight. Each year, it is estimated that the flu kills between 290,000 to 650,000. Unlike COVID-19 the common flu is not a reportable illness. Hypothetically, if the rest of the year continues as it has up until now, there will be almost twice as many deaths from COVID-19 as from the flu. There are vaccines which help prevent the flu. Currently, there is no vaccine that will prevent COVID-19. I hope one will be available soon.
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Okay, I exaggerated. :-[ As of today only a mere 291,000 deaths from COVID-19 have been reported. This is out of 4.2 million infections. This is approximately over the past 4 months. There is no end in sight. Each year, it is estimated that the flu kills between 290,000 to 650,000. Unlike COVID-19 the common flu is not a reportable illness. Hypothetically, if the rest of the year continues as it has up until now, there will be almost twice as many deaths from COVID-19 as from the flu. There are vaccines which help prevent the flu. Currently, there is no vaccine that will prevent COVID-19. I hope one will be available soon.
thats people tested
How do you know that 4 billion people have not already had it and not shown symptoms?
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We’re still waiting for a vaccine for aids.
Speak for yourself.
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Speak for yourself.
LOL. You got me on that one.
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...said?
https://theconversation.com/heres-how-scientists-are-tracking-the-genetic-evolution-of-covid-19-134201
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https://theconversation.com/heres-how-scientists-are-tracking-the-genetic-evolution-of-covid-19-134201
said
Niema Moshiri
Assistant Teaching Professor of Computer Science & Engineering,
in his first and only article
https://theconversation.com/profiles/niema-moshiri-1001653
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So we keep the economy shut down until a vaccine is discovered? How do you know this will ever happen?
We’re still waiting for a vaccine for aids.
Don't know when and if there will be a vaccine for COVID-19. I am guessing it will be before there's one for HIV which causes AIDS. However, medical science is working on a vaccine to prevent HIV. In the meantime, there is PrEP, (pre-exposure prophylaxis) which can help prevent becoming infected with HIV. No HIV = no AIDS. It is not possible to have AIDS without first having HIV.
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said
Niema Moshiri
Assistant Teaching Professor of Computer Science & Engineering,
in his first and only article
https://theconversation.com/profiles/niema-moshiri-1001653
Yeah we all better listen to the getbig scientists.
I didn’t cherry pick the article, there are many that talk about Covid 19’s genome tracking.
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Doherty institute ( australia ) vaccine study currently being done on 500 NHS workers in the uk, already seen to work in chimps, looks to be commercially available by september to the UK. Downside like many of the vaccines being trailed is that they can't vaccinate over 60s or those with underlying issues, basically the current group that are dying. Those people will have to survive with treatment of which there are many that are currently showing more than promise, they just don't cure death,many of the virus victims are already terminal. The position being considered if the general population is vaccinated, this will stop the spread to the at risk group or at least not exhaust the health systems, basically the vaccine will only deliver what herd immunity would but in a far more controlled manner. Apparently.
But again where states are managing their hospitals and health systems from positions of potential liability and are not using unapproved treatments for fear of liability, this could go on. Absolute madness.
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Doherty institute ( australia ) vaccine study currently being done on 500 NHS workers in the uk, already seen to work in chimps, looks to be commercially available by september to the UK. Downside like many of the vaccines being trailed is that they can't vaccinate over 60s or those with underlying issues, basically the current group that are dying. Those people will have to survive with treatment of which there are many that are currently showing more than promise, they just don't cure death,many of the virus victims are already terminal. The position being considered if the general population is vaccinated, this will stop the spread to the at risk group or at least not exhaust the health systems, basically the vaccine will only deliver what herd immunity would but in a far more controlled manner. Apparently.
But again where states are managing their hospitals and health systems from positions of potential liability and are not using unapproved treatments for fear of liability, this could go on. Absolute madness.
racist post reported
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Doherty institute ( australia ) vaccine study currently being done on 500 NHS workers in the uk, already seen to work in chinks.
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racist post reported
We're all humanoids :-\
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Not all, some are mongoloids
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/japan-suicides-fall-sharply-as-covid-19-lockdown-causes-shift-in-stress-factors (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/japan-suicides-fall-sharply-as-covid-19-lockdown-causes-shift-in-stress-factors)
Japan suicides decline as Covid-19 lockdown causes shift in stress factors
April’s 20% drop compared with a year earlier may be the result of delays to start of school year, less commuting and more time with family
This shutdown will make people reexamine their lives. Most students and workers put way too much stress on themselves.
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How and why does one disease become an endemic, but another disease disappears?
Example: why is the flu year around? But we are hoping for COVID19 to go away?
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It’s not going away, that’s the point. Thus them pushing vaccination as the saving grace. We went from flatten the curve to we can’t go out without a cure. Wake up people, this is bullshit and is 100% agenda driven. Never has the world shut down for anything with a 1% mortality rate, We shouldn’t be doing it now either.
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It’s not going away, that’s the point. Thus them pushing vaccination as the saving grace. We went from flatten the curve to we can’t go out without a cure. Wake up people, this is bullshit and is 100% agenda driven. Never has the world shut down for anything with a 1% mortality rate, We shouldn’t be doing it now either.
They will probably never even have a vaccine so they can use every "flare up" as an excuse to lock us down. There is still no vaccine for the flu just a shot to maybe protect you against certain strains.
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where as everybody else has it sorted?
;D
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Is anyone here from France? How tight is their lock down? Are there any tourists in areas like Nice?
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No, but I've been there and found them to be twats, on the whole. I crushed it plenty elsewhere but I got zero ass in all of France. I hope they onndyuure la maladee absyurd. Bon shance, twatierie!
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A French chick in my running club doesn’t shave her armpits. Unacceptable👎
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A French chick in my running club doesn’t shave her armpits. Unacceptable👎
she uses it to keep you socially distant
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where as everybody else has it sorted?
I do.
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https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/05/14/barstool-sports-founder-staying-inside-theres-cure-become-game
YUP
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A French chick in my running club doesn’t shave her armpits. Unacceptable👎
She likely does not shave her legs either. Do you shave your armpits? Probably not. She's thinking she has the right to be natural too.
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Australian boozing & munching places reopening 8)
Australia vs China trade/diplomatic war is expanding ;)
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Doherty institute ( australia ) vaccine study currently being done on 500 NHS workers in the uk, already seen to work in chimps, looks to be commercially available by september to the UK.
Weeks old news !.
Do U really think that UK will get Aussie made vaccine before Australians & American friends 8)
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[urlhttps://www.newstatesman.com/2020/05/how-plagues-change-world][/url]
The global crisis unleashed by the coronavirus pandemic is starting to look like a historic inflection point. While we do not know how long the outbreak will last and how severe its fallout will be, it is difficult to shake the feeling that we are now at a threshold between two eras.
If anything, the inherent uncertainty of this moment recalls the original meaning of the ancient Greek word “crisis”. A key term in Hippocratic medicine, krisis referred to the turning point in a disease, indicating either the beginning of recovery or the onset of death. A true crisis, then, is by definition a vitally important moment at which change has to come – for better or for worse. ......
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WARNING: Prolonged use of facemask produces hypoxia
Breathing over and over exhaled air turns into carbon dioxide, which is why we feel dizzy.
This intoxicates the user and much more when he must move, carry out displacement actions. It causes discomfort, loss of reflexes and conscious thought. It generates great fatigue. In addition, oxygen deficiency causes glucose breakdown and endangered lactic acid rise.
Some people drive their car with the mask on, that is very dangerous, because, the stale air can make the driver lose consciousness. It is recommended to use it only if you have someone in front or very close, and it is important to remember to lift it every 10 minutes to continue feeling healthy. It is counterproductive for people who serve the public for 8 hours, as they are intoxicating themselves without knowing it. All lives are important.!” That prevention does not lead you to another problem … let’s use the mask knowingly.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/05/warning-prolonged-use-of-facemask-produces-hypoxia/?fbclid=IwAR3iQnD5jmraS9y5q4Qs_pQI5rD8xk6uxyTP0l82qsvqVGoOJaMY5gqat4o
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It's about time there was a new way to tax Americans! ;)
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It's about time there was a new way to tax Americans! ;)
death duties X 86906 ?
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She likely does not shave her legs either. Do you shave your armpits? Probably not. She's thinking she has the right to be natural too.
I do shave my armpits.
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Australian boozing & munching places reopening 8)
Australia vs China trade/diplomatic war is expanding ;)
Fucking Chinese kunts.
Gov needs to get serious about moving away from Chinese filthy fucks interaction as much as possible.
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Data: 70% of CT coronavirus-linked deaths have occurred in senior care facilities
CT Post ^ | 5/14/20 | Peter Yankowski and Tara O’Neill
Posted on 5/15/2020, 8:45:36 AM
As Connecticut leaders this week unveiled plans to ramp up testing among the most vulnerable communities hit by COVID-19, the number of infections and deaths at senior care facilities continued to rise, data released by the state Thursday shows.
The data showed that as of Wednesday, 1,927 Connecticut nursing home patients died with coronavirus or whose death is suspected to be associated with the illness. Another 276 residents of assisted living facilities have died after falling ill with COVID-19, the data shows.
The data released Thursday marked the first time the governor’s office released the number of deaths at assisted living facilities, which differ from nursing homes in the level of care they provide senior residents.
Together, the deaths represent roughly 70 percent of the 3,125 COVID-19-related fatalities reported statewide as of Wednesday.
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Duke to suspend University-paid retirement fund contributions, cut salaries for highly compensated employees
The Chronicle (Duke University) ^ | May 13, 2020 | Carter Forinash
Posted on 5/15/2020, 10:33:06 AM by CheshireTheCat
Facing a possible decline in revenues of more than a quarter-billion dollars, Duke will suspend University-paid contributions to the Duke Faculty and Staff Retirement 403(b) plan and cut salaries for highly compensated employees for the next 12 months, with President Vincent Price and other top administrators voluntarily taking larger cuts.
In a Wednesday news release, Price described the changes as necessary to alleviate a loss of revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic, which could reach up to 15% of Duke’s annual operating budget—a total loss of between $250 million and $350 million. The University will implement all of the new spending cuts July 1, according to the release...
(Excerpt) Read more at dukechronicle.com ...
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WARNING: Prolonged use of facemask produces hypoxia
Breathing over and over exhaled air turns into carbon dioxide, which is why we feel dizzy.
This intoxicates the user and much more when he must move, carry out displacement actions. It causes discomfort, loss of reflexes and conscious thought. It generates great fatigue. In addition, oxygen deficiency causes glucose breakdown and endangered lactic acid rise.
Some people drive their car with the mask on, that is very dangerous, because, the stale air can make the driver lose consciousness. It is recommended to use it only if you have someone in front or very close, and it is important to remember to lift it every 10 minutes to continue feeling healthy. It is counterproductive for people who serve the public for 8 hours, as they are intoxicating themselves without knowing it. All lives are important.!” That prevention does not lead you to another problem … let’s use the mask knowingly.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/05/warning-prolonged-use-of-facemask-produces-hypoxia/?fbclid=IwAR3iQnD5jmraS9y5q4Qs_pQI5rD8xk6uxyTP0l82qsvqVGoOJaMY5gqat4o
My sister, who is working in the ICU at NYU treating Covid patients texted me this morning, and told me she got Co2 poisoning yesterday from wearing her N95 all day.
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My sister, who is working in the ICU at NYU treating Covid patients texted me this morning, and told me she got Co2 poisoning yesterday from wearing her N95 all day.
And some places are going to expect people to train at the gym with a mask on.
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My sister, who is working in the ICU at NYU treating Covid patients texted me this morning, and told me she got Co2 poisoning yesterday from wearing her N95 all day.
NYPD to no longer enforce wearing masks absent 'serious danger,' mayor says
https://www.guy-enforce-wearing-masks-absent-serious-danger-mayor-n1207931
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Fucking Chinese kunts.
Gov needs to get serious about moving away from Chinese filthy fucks interaction as much as possible.
Only the yellow monkeys still with masks in Australia, obviously they follow Peking instruction !.
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I do shave my armpits.
You must have trichophobia. Sorry about that.
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Shaving your pits greatly reduces the surface area available to pit stink bacteria. I've done it. Makes a major difference in BO output.
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Shaving your pits greatly reduces the surface area available to pit stink bacteria. I've done it. Makes a major difference in BO output.
Good to know. And here I thought my pits didn't stink because I am a lazy fuck who never works hard enough to build up a sweat, only to discover thanks to you, that it is because they aren't very hairy for some reason. Maybe because my back got all my hair follicles. :)
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Well...no surprises here 2 weeks later after an early re-opening of beaches. Georgia is up next. From China with Love!
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/05/15/newly-reopened-fla-area-seen-as-an-emerging-virus-hotspot/24318276/ (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/05/15/newly-reopened-fla-area-seen-as-an-emerging-virus-hotspot/24318276/)
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Well...no surprises here 2 weeks later after an early re-opening of beaches. Georgia is up next. From China with Love!
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/05/15/newly-reopened-fla-area-seen-as-an-emerging-virus-hotspot/24318276/ (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/05/15/newly-reopened-fla-area-seen-as-an-emerging-virus-hotspot/24318276/)
This article states: “Palm Beach County, FL reported a 71% increase in new cases the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days,” the document explains.
What the article doesn't state, is that Palm Beach County also increased their number of tests, by 66%. So essentially, things are right on par with the previous week. The rate of infection has not increased, nor decreased.
Palm Beach County, week of 05-02-20. Tests performed = 6635
Palm Beach County, week of 05-09-20. Tests performed = 11024 = 66% more tests.
Fake news, media hype. ::)
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This article states: “Palm Beach County, FL reported a 71% increase in new cases the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days,” the document explains.
What the article doesn't state, is that Palm Beach County also increased their number of tests, by 66%. So essentially, things are right on par with the previous week. The rate of infection has not increased, nor decreased.
Palm Beach County, week of 05-02-20. Tests performed = 6635
Palm Beach County, week of 05-09-20. Tests performed = 11024 = 66% more tests.
Fake news, media hype. ::)
Not sure it's fair to say all this is fake news. The world is in a situation like no other. We expect the media to get everything right, but that's unrealistic. Your observation about increased tests is right on. Too bad the media didn't realize this first.
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Not sure it's fair to say all this is fake news. The world is in a situation like no other. We expect the media to get everything right, but that's unrealistic. Your observation about increased tests is right on. Too bad the media didn't realize this first.
I'm confident the media is fully aware of the testing increase. However, they will not mention it, because it doesn't fit the "doom and gloom" agenda.
I watched NBC nightly news with Lester Holt, the other night. It was literally 60 minutes of Covid-19, "doom and gloom". The media needs to move on to something else. Maybe they could get back to the 2020 election.
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I'm confident the media is fully aware of the testing increase. However, they will not mention it, because it doesn't fit the "doom and gloom" agenda.
I watched NBC nightly news with Lester Holt, the other night. It was literally 60 minutes of Covid-19, "doom and gloom". The media needs to move on to something else. Maybe they could get back to the 2020 election.
I now refer to my default browser page as The Daily Lie.
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This article states: “Palm Beach County, FL reported a 71% increase in new cases the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days,” the document explains.
What the article doesn't state, is that Palm Beach County also increased their number of tests, by 66%. So essentially, things are right on par with the previous week. The rate of infection has not increased, nor decreased.
Palm Beach County, week of 05-02-20. Tests performed = 6635
Palm Beach County, week of 05-09-20. Tests performed = 11024 = 66% more tests.
Fake news, media hype. ::)
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I'm glad u read it for me, just posted it b/c it looked like good content for this 150 page thread.
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I'm confident the media is fully aware of the testing increase. However, they will not mention it, because it doesn't fit the "doom and gloom" agenda.
I watched NBC nightly news with Lester Holt, the other night. It was literally 60 minutes of Covid-19, "doom and gloom". The media needs to move on to something else. Maybe they could get back to the 2020 election.
Here's a trick I learned recently; don't watch, read or listen to the news. Amazingly, you still find out what's going on in the world without being subjected to an overload of doom and gloom. The media gives us what we want. It is how they survive. Weird though it is, people love a train-wreak. Nobody seems that interested in good news.
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Corona Isolation is terrible for our immune systems. Media all biased now so article is 2009. Yeah long who cares.
US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HEALTH WATCH 2009
Could Being Exposed To Germs Boost Your Health?
“I’m a sound believer that we’re too clean of a society,” says Dr. Christopher Carpenter, section head of infectious diseases and international medicine at Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan. “Our fear of germs has pushed us too far into trying to keep everything safe and sterile. That extreme is harming us more than it’s helping us.”
“We are getting far too sterile,” adds Kiran Krishnan, a microbiologist and chief scientific officer for Microbiome Labs, based in St. Augustine, Florida. “Exposure to microbes is an essential part of being human. Most of our immune system is comprised of tissue that requires activation by the microbes we’re exposed to. Think of the immune system as an army, with tanks and missiles but no general to lead them. That’s the role friendly microbes play in your body; they’re the general.” The vast majority of microbes, 97% to 99%, are benign or beneficial, and they are the best protection to fight pathogenic microorganisms, Krishnan says.
Carpenter and Krishnan say they aren’t against good hygiene. Instead, they say that modern society has one overboard with deploying sterile tactics as to indiscriminately kill germs – including good bacteria that help maintain a strong and diverse microbiome. Everyone has a microbiome, a collection of more than 100 trillion microbes that live on and in our body, the majority in our large intestine. “The more diverse your microbiome is, the healthier you are,” Krishnan says.
There are simple ways to boost your microbe diversity, Krishnan says. "Almost everywhere we go in the environment, from parks to woods to rivers, we come into contact with microbes." They can enter our respiratory system, our digestive system or just hang on our skin.
You can also
Have closer interactions with people
“We don’t hug and kiss as much as we should,” Krishnan says. “We need closer interactions with other humans, because that exchange of microbes is important for your immune system."
Such interactions can expose you to a greater variety of microbes, boosting the diversity of your microbiome – and potentially keeping you healthier.
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Shaving your pits greatly reduces the surface area available to pit stink bacteria. I've done it. Makes a major difference in BO output.
Correct. Shaving your pits is a must if you're someone that works 12 hour plus shifts and are in working in close proximity to others.
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Scientists are finally coming clean, its a mild virus and most people will get it without even know ing it
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I believe a lot of this is ended up being a self fulfilling prophecy. The media gloom and doom predictions led a lot of the nursing home staff to stay home. Nursing homes already have high mortality rates typically about a third die every year. The sad reality is that these are places where people go to die. If they’re understaffed this number is going to go up dramatically.
Minnesota COVID-19 deaths increase to 591, nearly 80 percent in long-term care facilities | FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul
https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-covid-19-deaths-increase-to-591-nearly-80-percent-in-long-term-care-facilities
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don't you have clean water and soap where you live?
perhaps you are not observing the required social distance or maybe you like the post shave itch
Phillips one blade bro. No itch
Antiperspirant applied to pit hair is only good for 8ish hours for any beefy high test male. Applying deodorant or anything after that only mixes with BO to produce an equally funky smell.
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Scientists are finally coming clean, its a mild virus and most people will get it without even know ing it
This brings to light the question I’ve been asking here for months. If so many people are asymptomatic, and the symptoms are very general, how would you know you wouldn’t have had those symptoms anyway in the absence of the virus?
The reality is these so-called scientists are just front people. This was engineered by the financial establishment. It’s basically a three month (one financial 1/4) economic reset. In Manhattan, the financial elite left town weeks before the shutdown. They knew what was going to happen and they knew when it would end.
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People are addicted to anxiety oddly enough, and the media manufactures and distributes it as their business. Very strange.
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They’re the Last Rich People Left on the Upper East Side
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/they-re-the-last-rich-people-left-on-the-upper-east-side
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It’s really an economic thinning of the herd. If you’re Apple Computer it’s just gonna be a down year but if you were already on the ropes going in, it’s game over:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/jc-penney-bankruptcy-filing.html
Long-struggling JC Penney files for bankruptcy as coronavirus crushes hopes for a quick turnaround
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getting up set about sweat after a days work sounds like a pampered powdered poofs' complaint
Hey fagg0t. I'm talking about BO which is caused by bacteria and you bring up sweat which doesn't even have a smell as it's basically just water. If you want to enter into a discussion with me up your knowledge base first.
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don't you have clean water and soap where you live?
perhaps you are not observing the required social distance or maybe you like the post shave itch
I don't find soap effective. It permits the washing away of oils by water. That's how soap works. Better than nothing but household amphiphiles aren't antibacterial. That's why pit smell returns. It's not like you kill 'em off and then get recolonized every day.
As mentioned, short set clippers. No itch. You can do your nipple hairs at the same time.
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Here's a trick I learned recently; don't watch, read or listen to the news. Amazingly, you still find out what's going on in the world without being subjected to an overload of doom and gloom. The media gives us what we want. It is how they survive. Weird though it is, people love a train-wreak. Nobody seems that interested in good news.
Looks like grandkids took away your TV, radio,papers ................ ;D
I don't watch TV since the World Cup 2018 in Russia ................. ;D
China Kang Flu simply sucks, didn't eliminate 5.5 billions .......... :P
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I don't find soap effective. It permits the washing away of oils by water. That's how soap works. Better than nothing but household amphiphiles aren't antibacterial. That's why pit smell returns. It's not like you kill 'em off and then get recolonized every day.
As mentioned, short set clippers. No itch. You can do your nipple hairs at the same time.
Alcohol wipes help reduce underarm bacteria and thus unpleasant odors.
While most common body odor is caused by the presence of bacteria on our skin metabolizing the proteins and sugars in our sweat, our diet or the foods we choose to eat may also determine the odor. Basically, you smell like what you eat.
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Alcohol wipes help reduce underarm bacteria and thus unpleasant odors.
While most common body odor is caused by the presence of bacteria on our skin metabolizing the proteins and sugars in our sweat, our diet or the foods we choose to eat may also determine the odor. Basically, you smell like what you eat.
You are leaving yourself wide open there.... ;D
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Alcohol wipes help reduce underarm bacteria and thus unpleasant odors.
While most common body odor is caused by the presence of bacteria on our skin metabolizing the proteins and sugars in our sweat, our diet or the foods we choose to eat may also determine the odor. Basically, you smell like what you eat.
That explains your phallic odor.
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That explains your phallic odor.
It doesn't explain your phallic obsession. :)
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A fat white supremacist (other than the orange turd!)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/16/watchdog-dismissal-mike-pompeo-261871
President Donald Trump’s decision to oust the State Department’s inspector general may wind up backfiring on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, whose role in the dust-up and overall use of his perch at Foggy Bottom now face heightened scrutiny from Democrats.
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A fat white supremacist (other than the orange turd!)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/16/watchdog-dismissal-mike-pompeo-261871
President Donald Trump’s decision to oust the State Department’s inspector general may wind up backfiring on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, whose role in the dust-up and overall use of his perch at Foggy Bottom now face heightened scrutiny from Democrats.
This isn’t twitter bro.
No one cares.
There is also a complete lack of a smoking gun, again.
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So, antibody testing in New York has started taking place....and the death rate for covid is now 0.5%
Deep state much? Have fun in your locked down blue states
Bench
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The fat bigot (not the orange turd) gets caught up in yet another scandal!
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to sit for an interview with the State Department inspector general's office as part of its probe into the administration's move to bypass Congress and expedite last year's $8 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia by declaring an emergency.
Very Trumpian! (illegal)
A fat white supremacist (other than the orange turd!)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/16/watchdog-dismissal-mike-pompeo-261871
President Donald Trump’s decision to oust the State Department’s inspector general may wind up backfiring on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, whose role in the dust-up and overall use of his perch at Foggy Bottom now face heightened scrutiny from Democrats.
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The fat bigot (not the orange turd) gets caught up in yet another scandal!
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to sit for an interview with the State Department inspector general's office as part of its probe into the administration's move to bypass Congress and expedite last year's $8 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia by declaring an emergency.
Very Trumpian! (illegal)
240, this has nothing to do with the China virus. Do fuck off.
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From 3 to 200 cases in just a few days. And the known fatality rate is past 3%.
Moderna starts clinical trials of the vaccine in April. It's up over 17% in after hours trading.
That's a stock to watch. :o
https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/MRNA
$19.84 the day I posted, and it's hit $80 since. Did anyone buy back then? Feel free to laugh at me for failing to. :-[
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240, this has nothing to do with the China virus. Do fuck off.
Is 240 actually dearth? They both are retards when it comes to politics so I could believe it, haha.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/19/trump-who-letter-error-267995 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/19/trump-who-letter-error-267995)
One of the top peer-reviewed medical journals in the world on Tuesday rebuked President Donald Trump after the president incorrectly cited research it published on the coronavirus outbreak in a letter threatening to permanently yank U.S. funding to the World Health Organization.
The Lancet,............ refuted Trump’s claim that the global health body “consistently ignored credible reports of the virus spreading in Wuhan in early December 2019 or even earlier, including reports from the Lancet medical journal.
“This statement is factually incorrect,” the Lancet said, noting it published “no report in December, 2019, referring to a virus or outbreak in Wuhan or anywhere else in China.”
The first such reports published by the journal, the statement continued, were on Jan. 24, where two studies described the first 41 coronavirus patients from Wuhan, the inland Chinese city where the outbreak began, and detailed the first scientific evidence confirming person-to-person transmission of the new virus.........
The Lancet? That scum bag journal? No way they are political. Oh wait, yeah they are - and got called on it :)
https://www.aish.com/jw/me/The-Lancet-Admits-Its-Error.html
And they are never wrong when it comes to big stuff. Oh wait, yeah they are, haha
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831678/
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Las Vegas Airport Installs PPE Vending Machines
On May 13, McCarran International Airport (LAS) in Las Vegas, Nevada, became the first U.S. airport to install vending machines stocked with personal protective equipment (PPE). There are three vending machines in total: one located in Terminal 3 near the security checkpoint and two in the ticketing area for Terminal 1.
The machines carry a variety of items for purchase to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and other germs. The following are currently available:
Hand sanitizer
Liquid $4.25
Spray $6.50
Alcohol wipes 10 pack for $5.25
Disposable gloves $4.50 for four pair
Tissue—three travel packs for $3.50
Masks
Reusable cloth, adult & child sizes $14.50
Disposable $7.50 for three
KN95 disposable $8.25
The items may come in handy for travelers who don’t already have their own supplies, especially face masks, considering that all major U.S. airlines are requiring face masks for passengers.
“The airport had these installed because we want passengers to have access to the items they may need to feel confident and comfortable while traveling in current conditions,” wrote McCarran spokesperson Christine Crews via email. She also noted that inventory may change depending on items’ popularity and availability. California-based vending contractor Prepango supplied the vending machines.
The team at McCarran International Airport has undertaken additional measures to protect flyers from the spread of the virus, including increasing cleaning frequency of high-touch surfaces and requesting that entry to the airport be limited to ticketed passengers and employees only.
The airport, which had a record-breaking 51.5 million flyers in 2019, faced a 50 percent year-over-year decline in passengers in March due to COVID-19.
McCarran International Airport may be the first airport to stock vending machines with PPE, but it likely won’t be the last.
Not all airports are going the vending machine route, though. Doug Yakel, public information officer at San Francisco International Airport, confirmed via email that SFO’s management was not presently considering the installation of such vending machines; however, face masks are being handed out for free to flyers who need them.
https://www.afar.com/magazine/las-vegas-airport-adds-ppe-vending-machines?utm_source=thrillist&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=partner&fbclid=IwAR1ECAOMc_UjWmMGJc5YVyf-CmRnmeC-Kf-m8xgpkGLBa3G9xocziOaECCE
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So, antibody testing in New York has started taking place....and the death rate for covid is now 0.5%
Deep state much? Have fun in your locked down blue states
Bench
That doesn’t even tell the whole story. All of the testing sites are in areas that previously had the worst health outcomes, shitholes. The overwhelming majority of people who have died have been elderly and people with pre-existing conditions. The fatality rate among people under 50 with no previous condition is zero.
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Covid-19 = scam
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They‘re messing with all.
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Just a great big stupid lie told by cowards, believed by cowards and retold to other cowards.
Trained again today at a very well known powerlifting & strongman gym in Northern Californa. As ALWAYS, NO MASK, NO GLOVES, NO VENTILATORS, NO RECTAL SCANS, NO NOTE FROM MOM, not one single precaution. And not one single person has reported getting sick or knowing anyone who was sick.
Folly. Trillions of dollars stolen for the sake of folly.
Folly...
1. Lack of good sense. Foolishness.
2. An expensive ornamental building with no purpose.
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Just a great big stupid lie told by cowards, believed by cowards and retold to other cowards.
Trained again today at a very well known powerlifting & strongman gym in Northern Californa. As ALWAYS, NO MASK, NO GLOVES, NO VENTILATORS, NO RECTAL SCANS, NO NOTE FROM MOM, not one single precaution. And not one single person has reported getting sick or knowing anyone who was sick.
Folly. Trillions of dollars stolen for the sake of folly.
Folly...
1. Lack of good sense. Foolishness.
2. An expensive ornamental building with no purpose.
👍🏻 💪🏻 As it Should Be - Well Said Sir.
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Being tough would include caring for others, not going to the gym even though you would want to etc
Being a little selfish bitch would be - not caring for others, going to the gym since only you and your lifestyle matters and bitching about how HARD everything is because you had to be gone from the gym for a whole whopping couple of months and crying how the world turned against you and your lifestyle and how everyone is out to get you
Somehow in your warped mind you think this is "survival of the fittest" and being "brave"
You guys are a pathetic bunch of people and Im surprised anyone would want to spend any time with you IRL.
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wait for the snow flaked to attack you
It’s just a matter of time before we hear that aymptomatic people can’t cause others to get sick.
The problem is you marks are still buying into the bullshit:
COVID-19 does not easily spread via contaminated surfaces, CDC says
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/infection-control/covid-19-does-not-easily-spread-via-contaminated-surfaces-cdc-says.html
Hundreds of pork plant workers positive for COVID-19 were asymptomatic - Business Insider
https://www.businessinsider.com/hundreds-food-plant-workers-tested-positive-for-covid-19-asymptomatic-2020-5
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Florida Governor kicking ass and taking names! 🔥
https://mobile.twitter.com/legendaryenergy/status/1263183491572699136?s=12
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I heard Mel Gibson is doing Braveheart 2.
It's about a modern time William Wallace who goes to the gym.
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wait for the snow flaked to attack you
Obvious trolling dude.
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Constitutional law scholar Alan Dershowitz: "If you refuse to be vaccinated, the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm."
Law can be interpreted, argued, and enforced any way they want it to be.
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Florida Governor kicking ass and taking names! 🔥
https://mobile.twitter.com/legendaryenergy/status/1263183491572699136?s=12
Would love to him and/or Senator Hawley from Missouri make a run for the presidency in 2024.
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As more states reopen, Georgia defies predictions of coronavirus resurgence. What's the lesson for the rest of the country?
On April 24, as more than 25,000 Americans continued to test positive for COVID-19 each day, Georgia became the first U.S. state to initiate the fraught process known as “reopening.”
The move was controversial, to say the least. In the New York Times, Keren Landman, an Atlanta-based physician, epidemiologist and journalist, accused Republican Gov. Brian Kemp of potentially “setting us up for a punishing new wave of infections” by volunteering Georgia as “the nation’s canary in this particularly terrifying coal mine.”
But now 26 days have passed since the state started to reopen — and that punishing new wave of infections has not materialized. In fact, according to a database maintained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Georgia’s rolling seven-day average of new daily cases — an important metric that helps to balance out daily fluctuations in reporting — has fallen for three weeks in a row.
Those figures are undisputed — despite a clumsy effort by state officials to present the data in a way that made them look even better. And they are a lot better than the experience in two other states that are moving to end lockdowns, Florida and Texas.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/as-more-states-reopen-georgia-defies-predictions-of-coronavirus-resurgence-whats-the-lesson-for-the-rest-of-the-country-164734815.html
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The lesson is what we’ve been saying here for months. The whole thing has been overblown bullshit.
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https://theprepared.com/covid-19/ (https://theprepared.com/covid-19/)
Novel coronavirus (COVID-19)
Updated 7 days ago By Jon Stokes
Experts explain what you should do to get ready, how to protect yourself, what researchers believe are the likely scenarios going forward, and the latest fact-checked news.
Always be skeptical about things you read and share online in situations like this. There’s enough actual bad news about COVID — fake news and conspiracy theories just make things worse.
You can trust this advice because The Prepared was one of the first western publications to track COVID, and this page started warning people in January to prepare for exactly the disruptions and lockdowns that have happened since. Our team also includes practicing medical experts in relevant fields, such as front-line medical staff, epidemiologists (disease doctors) using big data to track the pandemic, and modern preparedness leaders.
"Legitimate experts (including the government’s own advisors) are saying this reopening will make the spread worse and likely lead to a second wave of deaths and then more lockdowns to flatten the curve back down ." ::)
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"Legitimate experts (including the government’s own advisors) are saying this reopening will make the spread worse and likely lead to a second wave of deaths and then more lockdowns to flatten the curve back down ." ::)
so lets just shut down life, every small biz out there, financially ruin everyone who isnt rich or on Govt payroll so a few feel safe
lets have everyone on commie handouts because those commie countries are all so successful
govt (dems) want everyone on their handouts illegals included
they want them to vote, let them out of jail but lock up white racists
in my late 30's, never thought id see the day come to something this insane
i dont choose a party or involve myself with politics if i ever do, it wont be dem (i will now support trump is 2020 though) though I didnt before
very insane unhealthy (mentally) 'people'
this "prime" pervert and dearth and straw are 'prime' examples of very looney left
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remember this scam? seem familiar?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/h1n1-swine-flu-hoax-falls-apart-at-the-seams/17096
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so lets just shut down life, every small biz out there, financially ruin everyone who isnt rich or on Govt payroll so a few feel safe
lets have everyone on commie handouts because those commie countries are all so successful
govt (dems) want everyone on their handouts illegals included
they want them to vote, let them out of jail but lock up white racists
in my late 30's, never thought id see the day come to something this insane
i dont choose a party or involve myself with politics if i ever do, it wont be dem (i will now support trump is 2020 though) though I didnt before
very insane unhealthy (mentally) 'people'
this "prime" pervert and dearth and straw are 'prime' examples of very looney left
You just outlined the democrats playbook.
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Here are the 10 steps you should employ, if you want to turn an unthreatening virus into a global power grab.
1 Start with a poorly defined virus, add an inaccurate test for it, and encourage as many terminally or critically ill people as possible to be repeat tested until they test positive.
2 Report your inevitably very high death rates and get vague about whether these people died OF the virus or simply WITH it.
3 Create a ‘response’ to the ‘crisis’ that rolls out a vast network of authoritarian measures, some of which have been in planning for a long while, and only a minority of which have any possible application to pandemic-prevention. (Make sure to cancel elections until further notice and to hugely increase police powers of arrest and surveillance)
4 Shut down your hospitals to all but ‘covid cases’. Cancel elective surgeries, kidney dialysis, cancer treatments, normal GP consultations and all “non-emergency
healthcare”. Thus inevitably increasing all-cause mortality
.
5 Change your laws in numerous ways to allow almost all of these new deaths to bypass normal checks and balances and be easily diagnosed as ‘covid-19 related’, either with the inaccurate test or simply by ‘clinical presentation’.
6 In case some attending medics are reluctant to go along with this, change the law to allow a single MD, who may never even have seen the patient in question, to diagnose covid19 at his/her own discretion.
7 Report the startling numbers of ‘new cases’ you find as a result of these various manipulations, as evidence for how essential the new authoritarian measures are for ‘saving lives’.
8 With no sense of irony introduce mandatory Do Not Resuscitate (DNR)s for any demographic you consider useless eaters. (If challenged talk about human suffering, limited healthcare resources and ventilators)
9 Don’t forget to add any ensuing deaths to the covid19 totals.
10 Make sure the media calls anyone who questions any part of this a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
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Another 81yo nursing home resident died from 'Covid 19' in Australia (!!!???) 101 dead in total.
Supposedly this person was infected outside of his residence ??? , but who infected that individual !!!.
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Here are the 10 steps you should employ, if you want to turn an unthreatening virus into a global power grab.
1 Start with a poorly defined virus, add an inaccurate test for it, and encourage as many terminally or critically ill people as possible to be repeat tested until they test positive.
2 Report your inevitably very high death rates and get vague about whether these people died OF the virus or simply WITH it.
3 Create a ‘response’ to the ‘crisis’ that rolls out a vast network of authoritarian measures, some of which have been in planning for a long while, and only a minority of which have any possible application to pandemic-prevention. (Make sure to cancel elections until further notice and to hugely increase police powers of arrest and surveillance)
4 Shut down your hospitals to all but ‘covid cases’. Cancel elective surgeries, kidney dialysis, cancer treatments, normal GP consultations and all “non-emergency
healthcare”. Thus inevitably increasing all-cause mortality
.
5 Change your laws in numerous ways to allow almost all of these new deaths to bypass normal checks and balances and be easily diagnosed as ‘covid-19 related’, either with the inaccurate test or simply by ‘clinical presentation’.
6 In case some attending medics are reluctant to go along with this, change the law to allow a single MD, who may never even have seen the patient in question, to diagnose covid19 at his/her own discretion.
7 Report the startling numbers of ‘new cases’ you find as a result of these various manipulations, as evidence for how essential the new authoritarian measures are for ‘saving lives’.
8 With no sense of irony introduce mandatory Do Not Resuscitate (DNR)s for any demographic you consider useless eaters. (If challenged talk about human suffering, limited healthcare resources and ventilators)
9 Don’t forget to add any ensuing deaths to the covid19 totals.
10 Make sure the media calls anyone who questions any part of this a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
Outstanding👍
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Fauci disappears from public eye for two weeks and things seem to have gotten much better: States reopening, Atlanta's new cases are down, etc.
He'll be back soon, with more doom and gloom BS.
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Here are the 10 steps you should employ, if you want to turn an unthreatening virus into a global power grab.
1 Start with a poorly defined virus, add an inaccurate test for it, and encourage as many terminally or critically ill people as possible to be repeat tested until they test positive.
2 Report your inevitably very high death rates and get vague about whether these people died OF the virus or simply WITH it.
3 Create a ‘response’ to the ‘crisis’ that rolls out a vast network of authoritarian measures, some of which have been in planning for a long while, and only a minority of which have any possible application to pandemic-prevention. (Make sure to cancel elections until further notice and to hugely increase police powers of arrest and surveillance)
4 Shut down your hospitals to all but ‘covid cases’. Cancel elective surgeries, kidney dialysis, cancer treatments, normal GP consultations and all “non-emergency
healthcare”. Thus inevitably increasing all-cause mortality
.
5 Change your laws in numerous ways to allow almost all of these new deaths to bypass normal checks and balances and be easily diagnosed as ‘covid-19 related’, either with the inaccurate test or simply by ‘clinical presentation’.
6 In case some attending medics are reluctant to go along with this, change the law to allow a single MD, who may never even have seen the patient in question, to diagnose covid19 at his/her own discretion.
7 Report the startling numbers of ‘new cases’ you find as a result of these various manipulations, as evidence for how essential the new authoritarian measures are for ‘saving lives’.
8 With no sense of irony introduce mandatory Do Not Resuscitate (DNR)s for any demographic you consider useless eaters. (If challenged talk about human suffering, limited healthcare resources and ventilators)
9 Don’t forget to add any ensuing deaths to the covid19 totals.
10 Make sure the media calls anyone who questions any part of this a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
A very nice summary.
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Here are the 10 steps you should employ, if you want to turn an unthreatening virus into a global power grab.
1 Start with a poorly defined virus, add an inaccurate test for it, and encourage as many terminally or critically ill people as possible to be repeat tested until they test positive.
2 Report your inevitably very high death rates and get vague about whether these people died OF the virus or simply WITH it.
3 Create a ‘response’ to the ‘crisis’ that rolls out a vast network of authoritarian measures, some of which have been in planning for a long while, and only a minority of which have any possible application to pandemic-prevention. (Make sure to cancel elections until further notice and to hugely increase police powers of arrest and surveillance)
4 Shut down your hospitals to all but ‘covid cases’. Cancel elective surgeries, kidney dialysis, cancer treatments, normal GP consultations and all “non-emergency
healthcare”. Thus inevitably increasing all-cause mortality
.
5 Change your laws in numerous ways to allow almost all of these new deaths to bypass normal checks and balances and be easily diagnosed as ‘covid-19 related’, either with the inaccurate test or simply by ‘clinical presentation’.
6 In case some attending medics are reluctant to go along with this, change the law to allow a single MD, who may never even have seen the patient in question, to diagnose covid19 at his/her own discretion.
7 Report the startling numbers of ‘new cases’ you find as a result of these various manipulations, as evidence for how essential the new authoritarian measures are for ‘saving lives’.
8 With no sense of irony introduce mandatory Do Not Resuscitate (DNR)s for any demographic you consider useless eaters. (If challenged talk about human suffering, limited healthcare resources and ventilators)
9 Don’t forget to add any ensuing deaths to the covid19 totals.
10 Make sure the media calls anyone who questions any part of this a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
A++++
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Corona actually came at a good time. Was planning on selling my home in a year, going to put it on the market very soon instead. We will rent a home in the neighborhood we plan on buying in then swoop in when prices bottom and get a huge discount as real estate prices plummet.
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Eventually, almost everyone will get the virus anyway.
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Corona actually came at a good time. Was planning on selling my home in a year, going to put it on the market very soon instead. We will rent a home in the neighborhood we plan on buying in then swoop in when prices bottom and get a huge discount as real estate prices plummet.
If you sell your house now, you'll be selling in a down market. The real estate market is stagnant right now. Won't you be getting far less for your house? ???
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I know COVID19 is real. I had it.
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If you sell your house now, you'll be selling in a down market. The real estate market is stagnant right now. Won't you be getting far less for your house? ???
My home value is at a peak, will start dropping in the next few months. Selling at a peak, buying at the bottom.
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I know COVID19 is real. I had it.
I've been 'exposed' to several people with COVID-19 and I have had zero side effects.
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I've been 'exposed' to several people with COVID-19 and I have had zero side effects.
That's because you're an alpha getbigger.
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Well, this was unexpected:
Dr. Anthony Fauci says staying closed for too long could cause ‘irreparable damage’
“We had to do that when we had the explosion of cases but now is the time depending upon where you are and what your situation is to begin to seriously look at reopening the economy, reopening the country to try to get back to some degree of normal.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/22/dr-anthony-fauci-says-staying-closed-for-too-long-could-cause-irreparable-damage.html
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My home value is at a peak, will start dropping in the next few months. Selling at a peak, buying at the bottom.
I see. You had best sell quick. :)
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My home value is at a peak, will start dropping in the next few months. Selling at a peak, buying at the bottom.
Smart move. There will definitely be a lag before prices start hitting bottom.
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First they push you into the water and then save you from drowning. Now don‘t you forget who „saved“ you sir! We know what‘s best for you!
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https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-we-have-been-lied-to-6-facts-that-change-everything-we-know-about-sars-cov-2
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of course virus is real
so is common cold
flu
sniffles
diarrhea (democraps)
heartburn
car accidents
etc
Some people will die from it, but not many
govt shutting down and crashing the world economy is criminal
nothing anyone can do
very crooked world we live in, we just know more now with all the sjw experts out there to guide us
all talk, no cock
trumps crazy, biden is insane
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Corona actually came at a good time. Was planning on selling my home in a year, going to put it on the market very soon instead. We will rent a home in the neighborhood we plan on buying in then swoop in when prices bottom and get a huge discount as real estate prices plummet.
You hope. And depending on where you live you may get lucky. An overpriced house up the street just sold within a couple of days of the sign being posted. They tried to sell it a year ago and couldn't. Virtual tours are what's happening around here. The place looked good online.
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You hope. And depending on where you live you may get lucky. An overpriced house up the street just sold within a couple of days of the sign being posted. They tried to sell it a year ago and couldn't. Virtual tours are what's happening around here. The place looked good online.
Im not buying a house unless the online tour has "smellyvision"
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Im not buying a house unless the online tour has "smellyvision"
Yeah. Properties with any tobacco or marijuana residue smell are an immediate turnoff for many people. Being a non-smoker, even the slightest hint of smokers having lived is evident to me. Cat smells more-so than dog odors can be a problem. There are products which can remove some odors as long as they haven't permeated everything. The worst thing I ever smelled was an apartment where the tenet had passed and was not immediately discovered until the odor of rotting flesh seeped from the unit.
A virtual tour is most often just step in the process of finding the right property. Videos are better than photos which are often morphed to make the spaces look larger. It is never advisable to buy a place unseen (meaning an actual walk-through or two).
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I'm asymptomatic, same as the rest of my family, and the same as the other 80-90% of people who get COVID-19. So this virus does not bother me.
I never get the flu either, so I was expecting the same with this and had no symptoms.
It seems to mostly effect people with weak immune systems or other underlying conditions.
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I'm asymptomatic, same as the rest of my family, and the same as the other 80-90% of people who get COVID-19. So this virus does not bother me.
I never get the flu either, so I was expecting the same with this and had no symptoms.
It seems to mostly effect people with weak immune systems or other underlying conditions.
Just to be safe, knock on wood. Like you, I have never had the flu that I know of, so this probably means I am either immune or asymptomatic. And considering the usual indications my immune system seems like it must be very strong....good genetics....makes sense. Most people have some physical weaknesses. There is a lot of cancer in my family. Since middle age, I've had incidences of what the doctors described as pre-cancers having to do with organs, mostly skin and nothing fortunately connected to my blood, (my grandfather died of leukemia which he lived with for a long time before it took him at a very advanced age).
I actually have thought very little about becoming infected with COVID-19 although I am wearing a mask when it public to protect others should I be a carrier. Not to be political here, but that's the one thing that pisses me off about Trump not wearing a mask, particularly when he toured the Ford manufacturing plant. He can feel as invincible as he wants and I have no issue, but he doesn't get that wearing a mask is not for self protection so much as it is to protect those around you.
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Patrick Ewing in hospital with Covid19.
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Patrick Ewing in hospital with Covid19.
OMG! Who's next.
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This actually looks like a solid post until you actually think about it and realize it's not a solid post.
Here are the 10 steps you should employ, if you want to turn an unthreatening virus into a global power grab.
1 Start with a poorly defined virus, add an inaccurate test for it, and encourage as many terminally or critically ill people as possible to be repeat tested until they test positive.
You are assuming that the tests have been focused on people on the brink of death, instead of people with symptoms associated with Covid-19. Until you back up that claim with sound evidence, there's no reason to accept this as true.
2 Report your inevitably very high death rates and get vague about whether these people died OF the virus or simply WITH it.
Now it's assumed that health professionals have no idea what they're doing, or that they're blindly following malicious guidelines. Again, without sound evidence, there's no reason to accept this as true.
3 Create a ‘response’ to the ‘crisis’ that rolls out a vast network of authoritarian measures, some of which have been in planning for a long while, and only a minority of which have any possible application to pandemic-prevention. (Make sure to cancel elections until further notice and to hugely increase police powers of arrest and surveillance)
Draconian measures have been taken, that's true. For how long they've been planned out, or how they're helping parties currently in power is unclear.
4 Shut down your hospitals to all but ‘covid cases’. Cancel elective surgeries, kidney dialysis, cancer treatments, normal GP consultations and all “non-emergency healthcare”. Thus inevitably increasing all-cause mortality.
True, but that wouldn't increase Covid-19 cases.
5 Change your laws in numerous ways to allow almost all of these new deaths to bypass normal checks and balances and be easily diagnosed as ‘covid-19 related’, either with the inaccurate test or simply by ‘clinical presentation’.
6 In case some attending medics are reluctant to go along with this, change the law to allow a single MD, who may never even have seen the patient in question, to diagnose covid19 at his/her own discretion.
7 Report the startling numbers of ‘new cases’ you find as a result of these various manipulations, as evidence for how essential the new authoritarian measures are for ‘saving lives’.
8 With no sense of irony introduce mandatory Do Not Resuscitate (DNR)s for any demographic you consider useless eaters. (If challenged talk about human suffering, limited healthcare resources and ventilators)
9 Don’t forget to add any ensuing deaths to the covid19 totals.
Same assumptions as number 2.
10 Make sure the media calls anyone who questions any part of this a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
I don't think most people think it's wrong to question the media or the goverment. In fact, I think most people understandably doubt these two.
At least in my case, I question those who have made the decision of rule out Covid-19 as a hoax right from the start, with literally no evidence whatsoever. Those people have made out their minds a long time ago, and nothing is gonna change that.
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And just to be clear, what I think of Covid-19, based on what we now know is:
- It's a flu on steroids, with 5-10 times the death rate.
- Social distancing is needed.
- Quarantines may have been helpful in places with weak health systems, in order to prepare for the disease, but they're not sustainable and need to be lifted.
- Most deaths involve people in their older years.
- Around a quarter of people who have died from Covid could have lived another 10 years if they didn't get the disease.
- A very small proportion of young, healthy individuals die from it, but it's unclear why.
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Man Who Has Never Had an Actual Job Encourages Laid-Off Workers to Pick Fruit
The Prince of Wales is a 71-year-old man who has more first names (four) than he's had actual jobs (zero), but that hasn't stopped everyone's second least-favorite Royal from suggesting that recently unemployed Brits should be more-than-willing to earn a single-digit hourly wage while picking fruit for the next several months.
In a video posted to Twitter, a ruddy-cheeked Prince Charles stood on the impeccably manicured grounds of his 53,000 acre Scottish estate and, for 95 carefully enunciated seconds, explained that the country needs people who "are genuinely going to commit" to the exhausting work of harvesting fruits and vegetables for the remainder of the growing season.
"If we are to harvest British fruit and vegetables this year, we need an army of people to help. Food does not happen by magic. It all begins with our remarkable farmers and growers," he said. "It will be hard graft, but is hugely important if we are to avoid the growing crops going to waste [...] I do not doubt that the work will be unglamorous and at times challenging, but it is of utmost importance and, at the height of this global pandemic, you will be making a vital contribution to the national effort."
Charles name dropped Pick for Britain, the government's newly launched campaign to find seasonal help for farms and farmers who desperately need it. According to The Guardian, 98 percent of the United Kingdom's fruit pickers came from countries elsewhere in Europe last year, with the majority of them arriving from Bulgaria and Romania. In late March, before the UK locked itself down, the Concordia charity had secured the services of more than 10,000 foreign workers, but only a handful of them were allowed to travel in time.
Due to a combination of coronavirus-related travel restrictions, a controversial immigration bill that targets so-called "unskilled" workers, and good old fashioned xenophobia, there are anywhere between 70,000 and 90,000 seasonal positions that still need to be filled—and fast. On Tuesday, Environment Secretary George Eustice introduced the shiny new Pick for Britain website for job-seekers who are ready to be up to their elbows in broad beans.
"We believe those who are furloughed may be getting to the point that they want to lend a hand and play their part," he said. “They may be wanting to get out and they may be wanting to supplement their income. If they do feel that way, I would urge them to use that website and look at the opportunities that are there." (And then Symbolism put one in the back of the net, because the site promptly crashed.)
Pick For Britain emphasizes that the available jobs "can be hard work," and it recommends that all applicants should have a good level of physical fitness before getting started. "You will be part of a supportive team, often working outside in the fresh air and you are bound to make new friends," it optimistically continues. (It also adds that workers will "always be paid the national minimum/living wage for the average of the hours that you work," so perhaps you and your new friends can make homes for yourselves underneath some of the empty strawberry boxes scattered around the farm.)
On Twitter, a significant number of responses to Prince Charles' message, and to the follow-up post from Clarence House describing him as "a farmer himself," were some variation on "You first, mate." Others pointed out how ridiculous it looks for a man whose challenging job responsibilities include selecting the Royal Harpist to encourage people to sign up for underpaid physical labor.
According to the most recent annual report from the Duchy of Cornwall, which funds the "personal and professional expenditure" of Prince Charles and Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, he received £21.6 million (US $26.4 million) last year. So yeah, let's hear that part about 'hard-graft' again.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/akzdne/man-who-has-never-had-an-actual-job-encourages-laid-off-workers-to-pick-fruit?utm_content=1590206401&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1OnJrwsmInlLD7LnvXDrADaEH2OuA_167cZ_nkCMYYeQ-YKJPI95JfuzY
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You are assuming that the tests have been focused on people on the brink of death, instead of people with symptoms associated with Covid-19. Until you back up that claim with sound evidence, there's no reason to accept this as true.
they have only been testing people on the brink of death in initially in the UK, they still have a shitty testing system
Now it's assumed that health professionals have no idea what they're doing, or that they're blindly following malicious guidelines. Again, without sound evidence, there's no reason to accept this as true.
thet have guidance to advise them how to establish cause of death, I posted it here before, its not that they dont know what they are doing, they are told what to do
Draconian measures have been taken, that's true. For how long they've been planned out, or how they're helping parties currently in power is unclear.
there is zero evidence that lockdowns actually reduce the spread of the virus, in fact the main source of contamination is in the home, they have already told us this.
True, but that wouldn't increase Covid-19 cases.
There are hardly any "covid deaths" covid doesn't actually kill many people at all, its the associated conditions they have, now anyone dies with anything they always add covid to the stats
Same assumptions as number 2.
there is evidence for all those points...Just because it wasnt added here doesnt make it false
I don't think most people think it's wrong to question the media or the goverment. In fact, I think most people understandably doubt these two.
At least in my case, I question those who have made the decision of rule out Covid-19 as a hoax right from the start, with literally no evidence whatsoever. Those people have made out their minds a long time ago, and nothing is gonna change that.
Its nota hoax in the sense that there is no virus, its a hoax in the sense of the severity of the virus
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And just to be clear, what I think of Covid-19, based on what we now know is:
- It's a flu on steroids, with 5-10 times the death rate.
Nope, in most years flu kills between 16K and 28k people in the UK
- Social distancing is needed.
all social distancing will do is slow the rate of infection, it isnt going to rid the world of covid, its here forever
- Quarantines may have been helpful in places with weak health systems, in order to prepare for the disease, but they're not sustainable and need to be lifted.
The highest transmission rates are in the home so lockdown may have made it worse
- Most deaths involve people in their older years.
Almost all
- Around a quarter of people who have died from Covid could have lived another 10 years if they didn't get the disease.
without a list of their pre-existing conditions you have no idea if thats true
- A very small proportion of young, healthy individuals die from it, but it's unclear why.
In the UK 350 people under 60 has died from Covid that didnt have any other pre-existing conditions, the stats show you are more likely to drown than die from Covid 19, (400 people a year die in the UK on average from drowning every year.) the young people that have died had pre existing conditions
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These are the statistics from New York City. There is an INVERSE relationship between between social interaction and Covid deaths. The most sociable demographics have been the least affected, unless of course you think that it’s the 75+ crowd hitting the bars and clubs and the 20-30s crowd that was staying home. Incredible that some people are stiill defending this sham:
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These are the statistics from New York City. There is an INVERSE relationship between between social interaction and Covid deaths. The most sociable demographics have been the least affected, unless of course you think that it’s the 75+ crowd hitting the bars and clubs and the 20-30s crowd that was staying home. Incredible that some people are stiill defending this sham:
Exactly Right - Again & again the figures do not back up what is in place & being done to people
Around the world. I can’t but he’ll think there’s An Agenda & Very Likely an elite group with immense control ( yes I know out there conspiracy theory - Pass the Tin Foil Hat Pls- Only it all Don’t sit right in my mind)
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Exactly Right - Again & again the figures do not back up what is in place & being done to people
Around the world. I can’t but he’ll think there’s An Agenda & Very Likely an elite group with immense control ( yes I know out there conspiracy theory - Pass the Tin Foil Hat Pls- Only it all Don’t sit right in my mind)
That anybody who questions this is labeled a conspiracy theorist speaks volumes. Given the events of the past three months, it’s perfectly understandable for people to ask some hard questions, and wonder or suspect that something else is going.
Yet, for some reason, the media doesn’t believe any alternative opinions should be heard.
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They knew in advance the length of the shutdown. That’s why he’s changing his tune now:
Dr. Anthony Fauci: says 'I don't understand why' every state hasn't issued stay-at-home orders - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/fauci-stay-home-coronavirus-states-cnntv/index.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-fauci-irreparable-damage-stay-at-home-too-long-2020-5
"We can't stay locked down for such a considerable period of time that you might do irreparable damage and have unintended consequences, including consequences for health," Fauci said
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sham and incompetence from the git-go
very dumb people running the country and even dumber ones voting them in a defending them
ame people who are up in arms over a black kid being killed when the kill thousands per week each (black on black crime)
media should be ashamed, fined heavily, even arrested for inciting violence
if the rednecks get-off on th is in some way, the blacks will do their normal looting and killing in protest
meanwhile how many blacks will murder this weekend in chicago, balty, etc
maybe Prime will get killed or a family member, might change his mind the bleeding heart cuckold
embarrassment
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sham and incompetence from the git-go
very dumb people running the country and even dumber ones voting them in a defending them
ame people who are up in arms over a black kid being killed when the kill thousands per week each (black on black crime)
media should be ashamed, fined heavily, even arrested for inciting violence
if the rednecks get-off on th is in some way, the blacks will do their normal looting and killing in protest
meanwhile how many blacks will murder this weekend in chicago, balty, etc
maybe Prime will get killed or a family member, might change his mind the bleeding heart cuckold
embarrassment
Not gonna happen. The last time Prime saw a black in person, Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors was the number one album in the country.
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Not gonna happen. The last time Prime saw a black in person, Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors was the number one album in the country.
Good album.
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Good album.
This was my favorite tune from it:
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Rory still refuses to go anywhere. :'( :'( :-[ :-[
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Rory still refuses to go anywhere. :'( :'( :-[ :-[
Gay people fear the Kung Flu but don't worry about HIV. ???
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These are the statistics from New York City. There is an INVERSE relationship between between social interaction and Covid deaths. The most sociable demographics have been the least affected, unless of course you think that it’s the 75+ crowd hitting the bars and clubs and the 20-30s crowd that was staying home. Incredible that some people are stiill defending this sham:
Did you conclude social interaction and covid deaths were inversely related withouth factoring in Age?
Age is a known confounding factor for Covid deaths, so it should be taken into account.
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Gay people fear the Kung Flu but don't worry about HIV. ???
Pretty sure SF1090 and Rory are not gay. They're pansexual. ???
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Did you conclude social interaction and covid deaths were inversely related withouth factoring in Age?
Age is a known confounding factor for Covid deaths, so it should be taken into account.
That’s the whole point. Young people are the ones riding the trains and working in offices and going to bars, clubs, concerts and parks. Yet, were virtually unaffected.
At this point, you’re the only one left here who is still buying into the mainstream media’s bullshit.
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Fat, ugly and stupid - the cure for covid19 !
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That’s the whole point. Young people are the ones riding the trains and working in offices and going to bars, clubs, concerts and parks. Yet, were virtually unaffected.
You are not taking into account Age when dismissing Social Distancing effects.
Imagine studying the effects of nutrition on the Height of teenagers, and not taking into account the variable Age. Nutrition would basically have zero effect on Height because you'd have one big confounding variable not taken into account affecting all the data.
It's the same situation in your example.
At this point, you’re the only one left here who is still buying into the mainstream media’s bullshit.
Ha! Like if Getbig was the epitome of reasoning and logic. The fact that we have so many members calling Covid a hoax means nothing.
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wooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhh
#scamdemic
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You are not taking into account Age when dismissing Social Distancing effects.
Imagine studying the effects of nutrition on the Height of teenagers, and not taking into account the variable Age. Nutrition would basically have zero effect on Height because you'd have one big confounding variable not taken into account affecting all the data.
It's the same situation in your example.
Ha! Like if Getbig was the epitome of reasoning and logic. The fact that we have so many members calling Covid a hoax means nothing.
And you’re not taking accounts people in the oldest age groups also have the highest mortality rates. Give them the stupid fucking test which is largely inaccurate and their heart disease, asthma, diabetes, and cancer magically becomes corona.
Where do you live? I live in the most densely populated area of New York City and I’m telling you were it not for the media hysteria and the state interventions nobody would’ve noticed anything wrong. Either I’m full of shit or I’ve been stepping over bodies for the last three months. I’ll let Getbig decide.
And if we’re all such idiots and you’re such a genius, why are you here? Spend your time on Twitter with the rest of the frustrated Hillary supporters.
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wooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhh
#scamdemic
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Literally everything we’ve been told so far has been either inconsistent or flat out wrong. I give it until about July 4 until we hear that the general population wearing masks in public does more harm than good.
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And you’re not taking accounts people in the oldest age groups also have the highest mortality rates. Give them the stupid fucking test which is largely inaccurate and their heart disease, asthma, diabetes, and cancer magically becomes corona.
Where do you live? I live in the most densely populated area of New York City and I’m telling you were it not for the media hysteria and the state interventions nobody would’ve noticed anything wrong. Either I’m full of shit or I’ve been stepping over bodies for the last three months. I’ll let Getbig decide.
And if we’re all such idiots and you’re such a genius, why are you here? Spend your time on Twitter with the rest of the frustrated Hillary supporters.
Exactly.
Considering that 80-90% or more as asymptomatic as well.
The vast majority of the people dying from this have other health issues or underlying problems and the others showing symptoms are most likely people with weak immune systems.
The majority of healthy people are not going to notice anything if they've contracted the virus.
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And you’re not taking accounts people in the oldest age groups also have the highest mortality rates.
Your claim was that social distancing has zero effect on the number of covid cases. I said Age needs to be factored in and you obviously missed the point, or are just trying to change the subject.
Give them the stupid fucking test which is largely inaccurate and their heart disease, asthma, diabetes, and cancer magically becomes corona.
Two huge assumptions being made here.
1. The specifity of Covid tests has been evaluated, and the more common tests have a specifity higher than 95%. That means, less than 5 false negatives per 100 tests. So, the assumption about a highly inaccurate test can be dismissed. Sensitivity is around those numbers as well, so the number of false negatives and false positives cancel out each other, in the sense that the number of cases is not inflated.
2. Unless you post sound evidence that health professionals are following some malicious guidelines, there's no reason to accept that as true.
Where do you live? I live in the most densely populated area of New York City and I’m telling you were it not for the media hysteria and the state interventions nobody would’ve noticed anything wrong. Either I’m full of shit or I’ve been stepping over bodies for the last three months. I’ll let Getbig decide.
Anectodal evidence is useless to determine the severity of Covid. Let alone a highly biased individual's one.
Remember when the Italian Lifter warned us about Covid and most posters dismissed his claims? This is no different.
And if we’re all such idiots and you’re such a genius, why are you here? Spend your time on Twitter with the rest of the frustrated Hillary supporters.
Meltdown.
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1. The specifity of Covid tests has been evaluated, and the more common tests have a specifity higher than 95%. That means, less than 5 false negatives per 100 tests. So, the assumption about a highly inaccurate test can be dismissed. Sensitivity is around those numbers as well, so the number of false negatives and false positives cancel out each other, in the sense that the number of cases is not inflated.
and you know the test actually detects covid19 and not a general coronavirus how?
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and you know the test actually detects covid19 and not a general coronavirus how?
He knows nothing. He can prove nothing. He has no idea what would have happened had there been no social distancing. He just buys into whatever the MSM sells him. And he’s ashamed of where he lives. It’s okay, Uno. I’m ashamed of my state too.
Obviously they are not exclusively picking up COVID-19:
373 Asymptomatic Carriers Identified at One Meat-Packing Plant
https://www.thedailybeast.com/missouri-meat-packing-plant-has-nearly-375-employees-identified-as-asymptomatic-coronavirus-carriers
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He knows nothing. He can prove nothing. He has no idea what would have happened had there been no social distancing. He just buys into whatever the MSM sells him. And he’s ashamed of where he lives. It’s okay, Uno. I’m ashamed of my state too.
Obviously they are not exclusively picking up COVID-19:
373 Asymptomatic Carriers Identified at One Meat-Packing Plant
https://www.thedailybeast.com/missouri-meat-packing-plant-has-nearly-375-employees-identified-as-asymptomatic-coronavirus-carriers
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Why are you afraid to say where you live?
I’m in NYC. I know all the supposed hard hit areas. They are Dindu and Rican shitholes, the last places where Chinese or Europeans would go. The most likely place, Manhattan, was the least hit.
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Funny how the Chinese and/or European virus least affected Chinese and Whites. It appears the virus went after people according to their propensity to commit crimes.
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I’m in NYC. I know all the supposed hard hit areas. They are Dindu and Rican shitholes, the last place where Chinese or Europeans would go. The most likely place, Manhattan, was the least hit.
Hey, what's happen to "superior black genetics", they should be China Flu resistant ?. ;D ;D ;D
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Why are you afraid to say where you live?
I’m in NYC. I know all the supposed hard hit areas. They are Dindu and Rican shitholes, the last places where Chinese or Europeans would go. The most likely place, Manhattan, was the least hit.
Yup. Same bro. We live here too. We still all the filthy hell holes.
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Hey, what's happen to "superior black genetics", they should be China Flu resistant ?. ;D ;D ;D
Definitely not resistant, their numbers are going up rapidly in Africa.
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;D
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Someone posted on FB yesterday that he hoped everyone behaved themselves over the bank holiday so he could get to go and visit his dad soon
I said, just go and visit him and sit in the garden, he said his dad was high risk and didn't want to chance infecting him.
I then asked him if the government cancelled the lockdown next week and said everyone go back to normal lives would he visit him, he said No , he's still at risk of catching the virus?????
This is how fucked up people are, the government tells him he cant see his dad so he obeys, they tell him he can and he ignores the instruction... I wonder if he just doesn't like his dad, I cant think of another reason...
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What's scary is there is a entire generation of young people getting accustomed to hiding under their beds and collecting unemployment.
I feel for them, there's more media and propaganda than ever before. So much data that it can easily be contorted to give support to almost any narrative. Science being politicized will be a disaster.
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Hey, what's happen to "superior black genetics", they should be China Flu resistant ?. ;D ;D ;D
They probably received a happy meal coupon to be diagnosed with the virus so they could get the numbers up
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What's scary is there is a entire generation of young people getting accustomed to hiding under their beds and collecting unemployment.
I feel for them, there's more media and propaganda than ever before. So much data that it can easily be contorted to give support to almost any narrative. Science being politicized will be a disaster.
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The grand wizard has it all under control!
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"BUTTT WHAT ABOUT YOUR GRANDPARENTS!!! DON"T YOU WANT TO PROTECT THEM!?!?!?!"
if my grandfather was still alive and saw how I'm forced to live he would purposely learn the word "Faggot" just for the sole purpose of calling me one
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and you know the test actually detects covid19 and not a general coronavirus how?
It doesnt.
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The grand wizard has it all under control!
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I dont think that picture is real dude.
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Oh, look there is no real Mama Africa numbers on that chart................ ::)
A U S T R A L I A , is the healthiest place to live ............ 8)
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Oh, look there is no real Mama Africa numbers on that chart................ ::)
A U S T R A L I A , is the healthiest place to live ............ 8)
Based on the stats for COVID-19 cases and deaths, it looks as if the U.S. might be the unhealthiest place to live.
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Based on the stats for COVID-19 cases and deaths, it looks as if the U.S. might be the unhealthiest place to live.
Or the most chicken shit. Just like the Boston marathon bombing. The bomb killed THREE people and the official injury count was 380 people. How the fuck do you kill 3 people and simultaneously injure THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY people?
The numbers reported in the USA for covid19 deaths will never be know and will never be the truth.
We are chicken shit LGBGTXYZ snowflakes. We suck.
Are you staying healthy Prime? Do you have a gym yet sir?
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Based on the stats for COVID-19 cases and deaths, it looks as if the U.S. might be the unhealthiest place to live.
I’d agree in terms of obesity
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Oxford scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine say there is now only a 50% chance of success because the number of UK cases is falling too quickly
The trial is done by giving the vaccine to a group of participants who then mix with the population to see if they are protected from catching the virus. However, scientists are concerned that they will be unable to tell whether the vaccine has successfully protected participants if the rate of infection in the UK is too low.
Bell said that scientists might have to "chase" the virus around the nation for the vaccine trials to be successful.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oxford-scientists-working-coronavirus-vaccine-100847254.html
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People shouldn‘t be afraid of the virus, they should be afraid of the people that are telling them how to live their lives
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Biggest overreaching scamdemic in world history.
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Biggest overreaching scamdemic in world history.
It's an election year and China, Canada, Mexico, WHO, NATO, the Democraps, etc. all want Trump out of office no matter the cost to us.
Grab them by the pussy video didn't work, creepy porn lawyer didn't work, Russia collusion didn't work, impeachment didn't work, so now we have this "scamdemic".
Just imagine what they have planned next.
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It's an election year and China, Canada, Mexico, WHO, NATO, the Democraps, etc. all want Trump out of office no matter the cost to us.
Grab them by the pussy video didn't work, creepy porn lawyer didn't work, Russia collusion didn't work, impeachment didn't work, so now we have this "scamdemic".
Just imagine what they have planned next.
I can see a "flare up" of the Kung Flu right before the election. They want mail in ballots so bad because it's easy to cheat. There will be dead people voting like never before not to mention ballots being stolen from mail boxes.
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Or the most chicken shit. Just like the Boston marathon bombing. The bomb killed THREE people and the official injury count was 380 people. How the fuck do you kill 3 people and simultaneously injure THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY people?
The numbers reported in the USA for covid19 deaths will never be know and will never be the truth.
We are chicken shit LGBGTXYZ snowflakes. We suck.
Are you staying healthy Prime? Do you have a gym yet sir?
All the numbers we have today are misleading due to testing and inaccurate reporting. I don't think we will have accurate statistics until the end of 2020. Plus many countries are providing false numbers to improve their status in the world. Pretty normal behavior for trying times.
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I can see a "flare up" of the Kung Flu right before the election. They want mail in ballots so bad because it's easy to cheat. There will be dead people voting like never before not to mention ballots being stolen from mail boxes.
Easiest part for Dems is they only need to do it in just a few swing states for it to work well. All other states are either solid red/blue.
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Easiest part for Dems is they only need to do it in just a few swing states for it to work well. All other states are either solid red/blue.
Yep.
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Or the most chicken shit. Just like the Boston marathon bombing. The bomb killed THREE people and the official injury count was 380 people. How the fuck do you kill 3 people and simultaneously injure THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY people?
The numbers reported in the USA for covid19 deaths will never be know and will never be the truth.
We are chicken shit LGBGTXYZ snowflakes. We suck.
Are you staying healthy Prime? Do you have a gym yet sir?
One of the gyms I use opened yesterday with shortened hours. Since it was their first day open, I elected not go as it most likely would be crowded or at least there would be a lot of folks hoping to get in. Supposedly, they are open from 5:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. today. 24 Hour Fitness may be open. I'm not sure. None of the gyms have opened the pools, saunas, steam baths and hot tubs. When I go out in a little bit, I will drive by 24 Hour Fitness. They may be requiring you to schedule your workout. There is still a limit on how many people can gather in any given space.
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Masked MSNBC reporter laments no one wearing mask as the camera pans to a man saying "yeah, including your cameramen". Busted. "Oh yeah, my cameraman".
There are so many networked Youtube cop-accountability and other individual news channels that are collectively thousands of times bigger than all the networks combined.
They can go live all around the world at a moments notice and have reporters on practically every block in the US and all over Europe. Anyone here can report, on camera, live around the world, this very second. Why people are still watching this biased, limited, corporate trickery sh1t is beyond me. What happened to "power to the people" and "never trust authority"?
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MSNBC
bruh, come on
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bruh, come on
They're all degrees of the same thing, including Fox.
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They're all degrees of the same thing, including Fox.
yeah we know.....you're one of those guys who does that "drrrrr it doesn't matter; they're all crooks" rap when discussing politics, right?
we get it- you're based
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yeah we know.....you're one of those guys who does that "drrrrr it doesn't matter; they're all crooks" rap when discussing politics, right?
we get it- you're based
What you're describing is "black pilled", not based, and I'm definitely not black-pilled and never say "drrrrr, it doesn't matter, they're all crooks" although I might start adding the "drrrrr".
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What you're describing is "black pilled", not based, and I'm definitely not black-pilled and never say "drrrrr, it doesn't matter, they're all crooks" although I might start adding the "drrrrr".
whatever you say, nerd
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or, actually let me do my reply in a way you would understand better
>"black pilled"
> not based
whatever you say, nerd
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Whats crazy is think of all the US did to slow this down and our numbers are slightly higher lower than Sweden, who did absolutely nothing.
And poor Italy is probably still counting the bodies.
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or, actually let me do my reply in a way you would understand better
>"black pilled"
> not based
whatever you say, nerd
Ok, thanks. Glad you engaged, that's never a bad thing.
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Already bad but mad worse by the virus:
The Rise And Fall of USPS
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Based on the stats for COVID-19 cases and deaths, it looks as if the U.S. might be the unhealthiest place to live.
1. China
2. U.S. ( ???)
3. Brazil
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Cuomo says he's done guessing about when NY will reopen as he slams COVID-19 predictions
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuomo-says-hes-done-guessing-111734930.html
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Cuomo says he's done guessing about when NY will reopen as he slams COVID-19 predictions
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuomo-says-hes-done-guessing-111734930.html
We are never reopening here - it sucks
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There's much bigger stuff to worry about than Covid...
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There's much bigger stuff to worry about than Covid...
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That's right. Once the sun goes, and it will, we're all fooked anyway. That's Trump's fault too.
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Norway believe the virus peaked there back in March and that lockdown was unnecessary. Expect more stories like this over the coming months.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid
Social distancing measures, good hygiene, work from home, no large gatherings etc would have been enough to see off the virus in most places.
Only places that needed lockdown measures were large densely packed cities just coming out of winter.
Guess who told you all this months ago ;)
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People shouldn‘t be afraid of the virus, they should be afraid of the people that are telling them how to live their lives
^this
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Based on the stats for COVID-19 cases and deaths, it looks as if the U.S. might be the unhealthiest place to live.
Now I know for a fact you have never been to China, haha. Most disgusting fucking place. I've heard India is even worse but fortunately I have been able to avoid all biz trips there.
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or, actually let me do my reply in a way you would understand better
>"black pilled"
> not based
whatever you say, nerd
Oh no. I got that. From a memory, even.
> Be overthehill.
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Heartbreaking Data: 42 Percent of US Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes, Where Less Than One Percent of Americans Live
Townhall ^ | 05/28/2020 | Guy Benson
Posted on 5/28/2020, 11:30:04 AM by SeekAndFind
The heartbreaking statistic relayed in my headline is not, as some have suggested, an attempt to diminish the tragedy of the tens of thousands of Americans who have died as a result of lethal Coronavirus outbreaks at nursing homes and long-term care facilities. Every human life has value and dignity, and losing so many aging Americans to this virulent disease is gut-wrenching. The point is not that older lives lost do not matter. The point is that as we make difficult public policy decisions about public health and reopening the economy, extraordinary efforts must be undertaken to mitigate the deadly impact of isolated hotspots that arise as the virus sweeps through communities that are exclusively populated by the most vulnerable members of our society. These numbers, released earlier this week, are staggering and important:
New @FREOPP: Updated report on #COVID19 nursing home fatalities with the latest data as of Friday. https://t.co/ylZ5EqAzWY Nursing homes & assisted living facilities now represent 42% of all deaths from the coronavirus—up from 40% earlier this month—and 52% outside of NY state. pic.twitter.com/78N6vD5Afp— Avik Roy (@Avik) May 26, 2020
Remember that only 1.8% of U.S. residents live in nursing homes or assisted living facilities, and yet these facilities have tallied 42% of all #COVID19 deaths.— Avik Roy (@Avik) May 26, 2020
Roy later clarified that the actual percentage of Americans living in these facilities is 0.6 percent. New York leads the nation in the total number of statewide COVID deaths generally, as well as at nursing homes -- but its overall percentage may still look somewhat favorable due to its government's decision to alter the manner in which such deaths are counted. As the media flocked to cover this bogus story out of Florida (because of course they did), New York's apparent statistical sleight of hand has garnered relatively little attention. As we've covered, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and his team did an extraordinary job of recognizing and addressing COVID's unique threat to nursing homes, achieving impressive and life-saving results thus far. Florida's population is older and larger than New York's, yet its death toll is roughly one-tenth of the Empire State's. Thousands more people perished from the virus in New York nursing homes alone than in the entire state of Florida. Health policy expert Avik Roy, who published the tweets embedded above, adds additional insight based on the data:
States like New York, New Jersey, and Michigan actually ordered nursing homes to accept patients with active COVID-19 infections who were being discharged from hospitals. The most charitable interpretation of these orders is that they were designed to ensure that states would not overcrowd their ICUs. But well after hospitalizations peaked, governors like New York’s Andrew Cuomo were doubling down on their mandates. As recently as April 23, Cuomo declared that nursing homes “don’t have a right to object” to accepting elderly patients with active COVID infections. “That is the rule and that is the regulation and they have to comply with that.” Only on May 10—after the deaths of nearly 3,000 New York residents of nursing homes and assisted living facilities—did Cuomo stand down and partially rescind his order...Contrast the decisions by governors like Cuomo with those of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. In Florida, all nursing home workers were required to be screened for COVID-19 symptoms before entering a facility. On March 15, before most states had locked down, DeSantis signed an executive order that banned nursing home visitations from friends and family, and also banned hospitals from discharging SARS-CoV-2-infected patients into long-term care facilities...While it is too late for thousands of nursing home residents who have already died, there is still time to protect the millions who remain, by learning from Florida’s example.
Learning from one's mistakes should not include craven blame shift and purging the public record. This looks very suspicious, in light of the deserved criticism New York's disastrous policies are facing:
This is/was the deleted page. pic.twitter.com/m9mRO1mwPI— Reagan Battalion (@ReaganBattalion) May 26, 2020
I'll leave you with the mixed results of the reopening process thus far. Many of the critics' worst fears and most frightening predictions have failed to materialize -- but we need to keep a careful eye on rising hospitalizations:
Great news out of Texas, which has now been reopened for almost 4 weeks.
There can be a safe and practical way for states to reopen with appropriate restrictions and medications. https://t.co/mDinkHhVnk— Alicia Smith (@Alicia_Smith19) May 26, 2020
THREAD: New hospitalizations nationwide have risen slightly over the last week after showing sustained declines for the two preceding weeks. This view below looks at the nation outside of the New York tristate region. pic.twitter.com/H7x30dvEzI— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) May 24, 2020
These are also hopeful signs:
.@AstraZeneca CEO says he has high confidence his company’s COVID-19 vaccine will work - and can have 300m doses available in the US by October. **personal note here— that would be fan-fricking-tastick....... @KyraPhillips— John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) May 23, 2020
New study finds Covid19 patients are no longer infectious after 11 days of getting sick even though some may still test positive. The data from Singapore adds to a growing body of evidence showing people don’t transmit the infection once they’re recovered. https://t.co/adRCousXYa— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) May 24, 2020
UPDATE - This framing is very very odd:
COVID-19 deaths have declined in Democratic congressional districts since mid-April, but remained relatively steady in districts controlled by Republicans. https://t.co/NnUcKYt67w pic.twitter.com/R3mdZ1l8c4— Pew Research Center (@pewresearch) May 27, 2020
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Get ready-brace yourselves- its coming----asymptomatic carriers are not contagious.
Watch
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Get ready-brace yourselves- its coming----asymptomatic carriers are not contagious.
Watch
It's been established for a while now that loads of people are able to clear the virus before it can take hold.
The virus gets into their bodies, but it's cleared before it can get into cells, so it can't replicate. These people can't spread the virus and they won't have antibodies for the virus in their system either. This wouldn't count as an infection so you wouldn't call these people asymptomatic. I'd guess 50% of those who come into contact with the virus clear it this way.
It will probably be weeks if not months before this information hits the mainstream.
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It's been established for a while now that loads of people are able to clear the virus before it can take hold.
The virus gets into their bodies, but it's cleared before it can get into cells, so it can't replicate. These people can't spread the virus and they won't have antibodies for the virus in their system either. This wouldn't count as an infection so you wouldn't call these people asymptomatic. I'd guess 50% of those who come into contact with the virus clear it this way.
It will probably be weeks if not months before this information hits the mainstream.
Just in time to shut us down for the winter.
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Norway believe the virus peaked there back in March and that lockdown was unnecessary. Expect more stories like this over the coming months.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid
Social distancing measures, good hygiene, work from home, no large gatherings etc would have been enough to see off the virus in most places.
Only places that needed lockdown measures were large densely packed cities just coming out of winter.
Guess who told you all this months ago ;)
Army of One and Gib?
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Army of One and Gib?
Army of one was screaming about a 10% death rate and gib is still waiting for his people on the ground to tell us if dogs can get infected or not.
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Just in time to shut us down for the winter.
If they want shutdowns in the winter they'll just set conditions for a second wave. Let's say 4 months from now at the earliest.
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Army of one was screaming about a 10% death rate and gib is still waiting for his people on the ground to tell us if dogs can get infected or not.
gib's people is on the ground at the India-China border too, go India go ;D
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Fauci now saying that masks are just symbolic, not very useful and a 2nd wave probably isn't happening.
This whole thing was a scam from that start. Always had to do with Nov 2020 elections and Trump.
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I believe in the UK the lockdown made it worse
we waited 7 weeks after it was declared a worldwide pandemic, then locked down, knowing full well that most transmissions occurred in the home ensuring the greatest number or cross contamination..
just look at the death demographic, people who go out of the house the least, they elderly and sick...
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gib's people is on the ground at the India-China border too, go India go ;D
And Africa is thriving too according to his 'people on the ground' who are probably all in Wakanda.
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Get ready-brace yourselves- its coming----asymptomatic carriers are not contagious.
Watch
This actually makes sense given what we know at this point. the virus is mainly spread via droplets traveling through the air. When someone sneezes or coughs, they are going to spread droplets and given the added force behind a cough or a sneeze, the droplets will travel farther. Anyone can cough or sneeze, but people who are sick with cold like symptoms are more likely to do this. This is why wearing a mask is for the protection of others as well as for yourself.
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I believe in the UK the lockdown made it worse
we waited 7 weeks after it was declared a worldwide pandemic, then locked down, knowing full well that most transmissions occurred in the home ensuring the greatest number or cross contamination..
just look at the death demographic, people who go out of the house the least, they elderly and sick...
OMG, I went out of the house today. May not be sick, at least not physically, but I am damn sure elderly. Thank heavens, I made it through another day feeling just fine.
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Norway believe the virus peaked there back in March and that lockdown was unnecessary. Expect more stories like this over the coming months.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid
Social distancing measures, good hygiene, work from home, no large gatherings etc would have been enough to see off the virus in most places.
Only places that needed lockdown measures were large densely packed cities just coming out of winter.
Guess who told you all this months ago ;)
Lol these fucking idiots... I dont think many other countries will own up to this truth but we'll see..
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Get ready-brace yourselves- its coming----asymptomatic carriers are not contagious.
Watch
Agreed it's coming....
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And Africa is thriving too according to his 'people on the ground' who are probably all in Wakanda.
Looks like Wakanda/gibsyland is bordering :Belgian Congo, German East Africa & Italian Abyssinia :D
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Agreed it's coming....
My guess is that the big announcement that will show most measures were OTT and that those who have had human coronavirus infections (types of common colds) already had some immunity to Cov2.
Cov2 will also just end up doing the seasonal rounds in milder form and be classed as just another "common cold".
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No Coronavirus Spike in States That Lifted Lockdowns Early, ABC Reports
PJ Media ^ | 05/29/2020 | Tyler O' Neill
Posted on 5/29/2020, 11:06:33 AM by SeekAndFind
As states across America lift their coronavirus lockdowns, some fear that COVID-19 cases will spike. After all, the lockdowns were meant to “slow the spread” and “flatten the curve,” so won’t allowing Americans to go back to their normal lives result in more infections?
Yet according to ABC News reporter Ariel Mitropoulos, states that lifted the lockdowns early did not experience a surge in coronavirus hospitalizations, deaths, or the percentage of people testing positive.
“JUST IN: [ABC News] looked at 21 states that eased restrictions May 4 or earlier & found no major increase in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of them. [SC, MT, GA, MS, SD, AR, CO, ID, IA, ND, OK, TN, TX, UT, WY, KS, FL, IN, MO, NE, OH] via [Ariel Mitropoulos],” ABC News lead medical reporter Eric Strauss tweeted.
JUST IN: @ABC looked at 21 states that eased restrictions May 4 or earlier & found no major increase in hospitalizations, deaths or % of people testing positive in any of them. [SC, MT, GA, MS, SD, AR, CO, ID, IA, ND, OK, TN, TX, UT, WY, KS, FL, IN, MO, NE, OH] via @AMitrops
— Eric M. Strauss (@ericMstrauss) May 28, 2020
It appears ABC News has yet to publish the results of this investigation, but both Strauss and Mitropoulos are ABC News reporters, and the results of this investigation stand to reason.
Most of these states lifted lockdowns in part because the spread of the coronavirus was already under control in those states.
Even so, this report should give Americans confidence that easing the lockdowns — outside of extreme hotspots like the New York City area — is not as dangerous as naysayers suggest.
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
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Trump was right again! Of course, myself and several others had it right from the beginning. 8)
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Trump was right again! Of course, myself and several others had it right from the beginning. 8)
Funny how those who made inaccurate and emotional predictions and got it wrong now avoid this thread.
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Funny how those who made incorrect and emotional predictions and got it wrong now avoid this thread.
True dat. The first few pages are a chuckle... ;D
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Were the first few pages of predictions by Getbig scholars accurate?
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WHO still says you probably shouldn’t wear a mask
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/for-some-reason-the-who-still-says-you-probably-shouldnt-wear-a-mask
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China Kang Flu sucks, less & less restrictions + more & more traffic on the roads :(
Rugby is back, pubs a open, .........
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Army of one silent these days?
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Army of one silent these days?
RIP Covid19
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RIP Covid19
Never seen such a large part of the population subconsciously excited for death, and disappointed when the deaths are underwhelming.
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Never seen such a large part of the population subconsciously excited for death, and disappointed when the deaths are underwhelming.
heres probably out licking items in the stores...
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Guess I just enjoy being contrary. Essentially, one could say this is a 'bad news' thread. I read about a website today that might offer some balance to all the bad news about the pandemic. It is, https://www.oneworld-stories.org (https://www.oneworld-stories.org). Check it out. The site was started by a Portland man (we're just a bunch of Pollyannas in this neck of the woods).
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It is a bit odd that the two people pushing the fear mongering heavily during the first few months have fallen silent the last few weeks...
Who knew race fueled riots were the cure to COVID?
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Hoax
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/
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It was real, definitely not a hoax. But fear, maybe greed and definitely stupidity took over and clouded peoples judgements.
It wasn't a hoax, but it wasn't just flu either.
For comparison it looks to be on par with the 1968 Hong Kong flu which was declared a pandemic, but it didn't need the kinda BS measures we are seeing in place now to deal with it. Funnily enough the second peak for that flu was worse than the first in some places. This could still be the case with sars2, but again we don't need retarded measures in place to deal with it.
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It was real, definitely not a hoax. But fear, maybe greed and definitely stupidity took over and clouded peoples judgements.
It wasn't a hoax, but it wasn't just flu either.
For comparison it looks to be on par with the 1968 Hong Kong flu which was declared a pandemic, but it didn't need the kinda BS measures we are seeing in place now to deal with it. Funnily enough the second peak for that flu was worse than the first in some places. This could still be the case with sars2, but again we don't need retarded measures in place to deal with it.
This.
It definitely sounds worse than the flu. But politicians took advantage of a vulnerable and fearful population and used it their political advantage. The MSM did a good job of spinning the narrative to their advantage.
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Revised CDC death rates say the opposite. Magically influenza and pneumonia deaths have decreased significantly since COVID. Meanwhile, race fueled riots have all but eradicated any fear of social distancing, masks and mass public gatherings; funny how that works. Same movie, different actors
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Revised CDC death rates say the opposite. Magically influenza and pneumonia deaths have decreased significantly since COVID. Meanwhile, race fueled riots have all but eradicated any fear of social distancing, masks and mass public gatherings; funny how that works. Same movie, different actors
I wouldn't call a lockdown magic
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So the lockdown eradicated influenza and pneumonia yet somehow COVID flourished even amidst those same lockdowns. Considering we now know it doesn’t live on surfaces and masks are all but useless it’s amazing how well it spread, infecting millions of people yet the flu/pneumonia all but vanished.
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So the lockdown eradicated influenza and pneumonia yet somehow COVID flourished even amidst those same lockdowns. Considering we now know it doesn’t live on surfaces and masks are all but useless it’s amazing how well it spread, infecting millions of people yet the flu/pneumonia all but vanished.
The only places the coronavirus spread significantly were new york, new jersey and other places with similar death statistics. It spread before lockdown and continued to spread after in homes by those who were already infected during lockdown. It also spread through a lot of vulnerable groups in nursing and care homes after lockdown which skew death statistics. This is why it looks like it flourished. Also this all happened towards the latter part of the flu season, so flu had already done the rounds and was on it's way out anyway.
Maybe you need to read up on flu a bit more too. It pretty much vanishes from the northern hemisphere this time of year every year anyway.
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The only places the coronavirus spread significantly were new york, new jersey and other places with similar death statistics. It spread before lockdown and continued to spread after in homes by those who were already infected during lockdown. It also spread through a lot of vulnerable groups in nursing and care homes after lockdown which skew death statistics. This is why it looks like it flourished. Also this all happened towards the latter part of the flu season, so flu had already done the rounds and was on it's way out anyway.
Maybe you need to read up on flu a bit more too. It pretty much vanishes from the northern hemisphere this time of year every year anyway.
These are the numbers from New York City. The median age is 35. Among the most active, social segment of the population there was never a first wave.
I live in the most densely populated area of new York city. I have said that without the media and the state interventions no one would’ve noticed. The statistics bare that out.
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Some more stats. You’re telling me we needed to lockdown the entire population for this?
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This is the Snowflake generation.
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Some more stats. You’re telling me we needed to lockdown the entire population for this?
I've said from the start the entire population didn't need to be in lockdown so I'm not sure who you're tryna argue with.
But I'll say this again. The "it's just flu" crowd are almost as wrong as the "sky is falling" crowd.
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I've said from the start the entire population didn't need to be in lockdown so I'm not sure who you're tryna argue with.
But I'll say this again. The "it's just flu" crowd are almost as wrong as the "sky is falling" crowd.
The truth is there’s been so much inconsistency and misinformation that we really don’t know. In the middle of February, New York City residents were encouraged by the mayor and health commissioner to ride the subways and go to parades in Chinatown.
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I've said from the start the entire population didn't need to be in lockdown so I'm not sure who you're tryna argue with.
But I'll say this again. The "it's just flu" crowd are almost as wrong as the "sky is falling" crowd.
Oh fuck we weren't lol. For all intents and purposes, it was just a flu in its effect.
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The truth is there’s been so much inconsistency and misinformation that we really don’t know. In the middle of February, New York City residents were encouraged by the mayor and health commissioner to ride the subways and go to parades in Chinatown.
That might look like a stroke of genius if there is a second wave as places like New York might be immune to it.
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Oh fuck we weren't lol. For all intents and purposes, it was just a flu in its effect.
I'd recommend you go look at the relevant data from areas where there was already significant spread before a lockdown. I've already given you a clue. Hong Kong pandemic
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I had COVID19 and I survived.
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I had COVID19 and I survived.
China was trying to eliminate U, but WHY ???
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This.
It definitely sounds worse than the flu. But politicians took advantage of a vulnerable and fearful population and used it their political advantage. The MSM did a good job of spinning the narrative to their advantage.
I was out in the world yesterday and noticed that there are a lot of people not wearing masks. Most of them looked to be under 25 years old. I remember feeling invincible when I was that age....so I get it. I gave these roving groups of fools a wide berth....not less than 6 feet.
During my outing, I saw that Crate and Barrel was open for business, so I parked and when in to window shop for a new desk chair and maybe a new desk. Everyone there was wearing masks. There were a few reasons for this, one of which was they handed them out at the entrance another was teenagers don't generally spend time shopping for furniture at Crate and Barrel.
I avoided downtown Portland where some of the demonstrations over Mr. Floyd's murder were taking place. There's a lot of pent up emotions going around these days mainly because we've all been locked up with the shutdown. People are hungry for a reason to get out and do something. An idiot Minneapolis policeman with a big knee and a bad attitude had his dirty deed videoed and that became the catalyst everyone needed to take their minds off COVID-19 issues. How's this for a theory? Not every theory has to be a conspiracy.
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China was trying to eliminate U, but WHY ???
China is trying to eliminate bodybuilders. The Chinese struggle to feed their population while bodybuilders are scarfing down 6 meals a day.
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I was out in the world yesterday and noticed that there are a lot of people not wearing masks. Most of them looked to be under 25 years old. I remember feeling invincible when I was that age....so I get it. I gave these roving groups of fools a wide berth....not less than 6 feet.
During my outing, I saw that Crate and Barrel was open for business, so I parked and when in to window shop for a new desk chair and maybe a new desk. Everyone there was wearing masks. There were a few reasons for this, one of which was they handed them out at the entrance another was teenagers don't generally spend time shopping for furniture at Crate and Barrel.
I avoided downtown Portland where some of the demonstrations over Mr. Floyd's murder were taking place. There's a lot of pent up emotions going around these days mainly because we've all been locked up with the shutdown. People are hungry for a reason to get out and do something. An idiot Minneapolis policeman with a big knee and a bad attitude had his dirty deed videoed and that became the catalyst everyone needed to take their minds off COVID-19 issues. How's this for a theory? Not every theory has to be a conspiracy.
If looting gets serious, please go to VooDoo Doughnuts and secure the perimeter. I will assist you.
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Easing of 'restrictions' , now I can drive to 250 km from my beach shack 8)
Recreational travel to 500 km for Outback residents !.
Gym group sex to 20 members :-\
Etc,.
Life is getting good again !.
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China is trying to eliminate bodybuilders. The Chinese struggle to feed their population while bodybuilders are scarfing down 6 meals a day.
Hell yes, but just 1 (yeah 1) good size MOAB is needed to cut off Chinas supply of drinking water from Russia ;)
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If looting gets serious, please go to VooDoo Doughnuts and secure the perimeter. I will assist you.
Of course I will and of course you will. Anything to save VooDoo donuts from vandalism and looting. "The magic is in the hole."
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The people who considered this nothing more than the flu were right. No shit this time of year flu dissipates, I’m referring to the numbers during the typical influenza season.
When you got 100+ year olds beating this shit it becomes a bit comical when the entire nation has to be under lockdown.
Another critical piece here is mass gatherings are unsafe thus the shutdown of local businesses yet thousands can gather for “peaceful” protests are are encouraged to participate. What happened to COVID and the fear mongering machine behind it? New day, new distraction. You strike me as someone who wears a mask while driving in their own vehicle
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Is the sky falling or not?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xx6vUU-BU1k/U0cVoUNXe7I/AAAAAAAAw0s/QpB7mMq6Ky8/s1600/chicken-little-dancing+(6).gif)
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The people who considered this nothing more than the flu were right. No shit this time of year flu dissipates, I’m referring to the numbers during the typical influenza season.
When you got 100+ year olds beating this shit it becomes a bit comical when the entire nation has to be under lockdown.
Another critical piece here is mass gatherings are unsafe thus the shutdown of local businesses yet thousands can gather for “peaceful” protests are are encouraged to participate. What happened to COVID and the fear mongering machine behind it? New day, new distraction. You strike me as someone who wears a mask while driving in their own vehicle
Deadlier than the flu. LOL
Missouri coronavirus: More than 370 workers at a pork plant tested positive were asymptomatic - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
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Deadlier than the flu. LOL
Missouri coronavirus: More than 370 workers at a pork plant tested positive were asymptomatic - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
Lmao be careful, fear mongering getbiggers will see this and lose their shit
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Deadlier than the flu. LOL
Missouri coronavirus: More than 370 workers at a pork plant tested positive were asymptomatic - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
How many Chinese works there !.
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Deadlier than the flu. LOL
Missouri coronavirus: More than 370 workers at a pork plant tested positive were asymptomatic - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
You need to go understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic.
The fact that lockdowns happened at different stages of the spread in different places is something your morons seem to be able to fail to grasp (it's exponential growth all over again ::) ) In most places a lockdown was pointless, in others like NY and London it was done too late for there to have been any real benefit. At the same time they failed to protect the people who needed shielding and let others carry on as normal. Doing nothing would have been an infinitely better solution than what did happen.
I get it, most of you "just flu" morons can't understand the complexities of what happened, so sticking to "it's just flu" won't tax your brain too much. Plenty of data available suggesting otherwise however, but let's just ignore that so you feel better.
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Lmao be careful, fear mongering getbiggers will see this and lose their shit
You were right. He did lose his shit. 😂😂😂
BTW, Flex, you mentioned orthodox Jews getting hit hard in London. We got a few of them here in New York City as well. They get hit hard by everything, most unhealthy people I’ve ever seen, other than blacks and PRs. They think that because they pray six times a fucking day, they can eat like absolute shit with no repercussions.
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Deadlier than the flu. LOL
Missouri coronavirus: More than 370 workers at a pork plant tested positive were asymptomatic - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-outbreak-missouri/index.html
But the pigs are all sicker than dogs.
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You were right. He did lose his shit. 😂😂😂
Says the guy who got owned so bad in this thread by me, that tried to change the subject and blame the virus in NY on Europeans, knowing I'm in Europe.
At least the other morons had the decency to stop posting in here
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BTW, Flex, you mentioned orthodox Jews getting hit hard in London. We got a few of them here in New York City as well. They get hit hard by everything, most unhealthy people I’ve ever seen, other than blacks and PRs. They think that because they pray six times a fucking day, they can eat like absolute shit with no repercussions.
It's still not enough of them.
And that's not a racist post as I don't have a problem with Jews, but there is no need for these particular people to exist, especially not in the west
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Do we still need 770,000,000 ventilators and 555,555,000 body bags?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The single stupidest moment in human history.
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Not much care for Corona now in the midst of all the Riots eh?
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Corona had its 15 minutes of fame.
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As a microbiologist, astronaut, BJJ Black Belt and certified member of Getbig, I hearby declare the Covid19 pig fuck over.
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Not much care for Corona now in the midst of all the Riots eh?
Corona failed to push Trump out of office. Commies moved on to the next plan of action.
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As a microbiologist, astronaut, BJJ Black Belt and certified member of Getbig, I hearby declare the Covid19 pig fuck over.
Yes, but can you bench 600 and look good in a thong?
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They're saying the mortality rate of corona is the same or less than the flu for people under 60. Nice going guys.
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As a microbiologist, astronaut, BJJ Black Belt and certified member of Getbig, I hearby declare the Covid19 pig fuck over.
We can only hope.
Next we will be hearing about the SECOND WAVE and with zero evidence of any such thing the country will be locked down again "just in case."
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Screw Chinese virus/flu , German WW1 gas was far more effective :)
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https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/?fbclid=IwAR2wBHNWE0OxsGFLzMc14J4sVA_EOuDkHLpfw5GEDMo8wYrYPjhv5PRc9lk
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They're saying the mortality rate of corona is the same or less than the flu for people under 60. Nice going guys.
It’s looking that way - An OTT reaction to a man made/ altered China Virus - Which I can understand happening Considering the coverup & lies from WHO & China.
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Corona had its 15 minutes of fame.
The number of new cases is on the rise again.
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The number of new cases is on the rise again.
I read that despite states reopening, it has leveled off in many states.
Your link?
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https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/?fbclid=IwAR2wBHNWE0OxsGFLzMc14J4sVA_EOuDkHLpfw5GEDMo8wYrYPjhv5PRc9lk
Thanks for posting that article - He talks a lot of Sense - and very clearly most of what he says is plainly correct & accurate about this virus- Total OTT reaction it was & still is, Lockdown for all was & is the wrong solution - A 3-4 wk lockdown for elderly care homes & those at the High Risk end was all that was required.
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The number of new cases is on the rise again.
If so it’s because of no herd immunity because of the stupidity of total lockdown.
Have you read the article posted by Joswift ??
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Not much care for Corona now in the midst of all the Riots eh?
What is more destructive to the US Covid19 or the riots?
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The number of new cases is on the rise again.
You’re such a retard.
If you can’t figure all this out, you are hopeless.
I’m just some wanker and even I can acknowledge the various puzzle pieces and come to the overwhelmingly reasonable answers.
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You’re such a retard.
If you can’t figure all this out, you are hopeless.
I’m just some wanker and even I can acknowledge the various puzzle pieces and come to the overwhelmingly reasonable answers.
Hes old and no matter what you tell him hes scared and will continue being scared.
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If the rona is as contagious, as deadly, and as racist as claimed, all those protesters/rioters/looters will be hospitalized or dead soon.
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If the rona is as contagious, as deadly, and as racist as claimed, all those protesters/rioters/looters will be hospitalized or dead soon.
If none of them gets ill, the Rona was all a sham!
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If the rona is as contagious, as deadly, and as racist as claimed, all those protesters/rioters/looters will be hospitalized or dead soon.
We can only hope.
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Corona failed to push Trump out of office. Commies moved on to the next plan of action.
This ^. 8)
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If the rona is as contagious, as deadly, and as racist as claimed, all those protesters/rioters/looters will be hospitalized or dead soon.
No. Most are young, but they'll be taking it home to their obese/diabetes/hypertension ridden mums and grandmas
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No. Most are young, but they'll be taking it home to their obese/diabetes/hypertension ridden mums and grandmas
So youre telling us there will be an upside to all of this :D
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No. Most are young, but they'll be taking it home to their obese/diabetes/hypertension ridden mums and grandmas
Well, according to the media it doesn't matter how young or healthy you are, or if you have recovered from it. You will catch it anyway and it will likely kill you, and the world will end in less than 12 years too.
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No. Most are young, but they'll be taking it home to their obese/diabetes/hypertension ridden mums and grandmas
That might apply to the Dindus but the young white protesters are mainly transplants and don’t live with their “mums.”
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So youre telling us there will be an upside to all of this :D
Could go either way. The viral loads being spread right now are pretty low because people are outdoors, in warmer weather, and with more sunshine. So most vulnerables getting it now will clear it, develop immunity and possibly save themselves from any second wave in the winter.
The riots are helping bring about herd immunity.
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That might apply to the Dindus but the young white protesters are mainly transplants and don’t live with their “mums.”
You forget a whole bunch of young whites were made unemployed, and no college so had to move back in with parents.
Are the cities opening back up in the US? If pollution kicks up again then that's in favour of the virus. Next few weeks will be interesting.
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Would love if all Rioters suddenly started coughing up blood :D
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Would love if all Rioters suddenly started coughing up blood :D
COVID-19: :D
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I read that despite states reopening, it has leveled off in many states.
Your link?
My link is my daughter, who mentioned this yesterday.
Oregon has 'leveled off' which is to say that the number of new cases each day is not increasing. Multnomah county, which has the greatest density and is the most populous and is where Portland is, had not yet applied to reopen because it had not yet reach the criteria. The real test here will be when this area opens back up. Also, Oregon is reopening in phases.
The statistics vary from one source to another. These websites have fairly up to date information, https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-live-updates , https://www.bing.com/search?q=june+2+covid-19+stats&cvid=2d5b5599a58c4e2da7f4e50ee29ebb32&FORM=ANAB01&PC=LCTS , https://abcnews.go.com/Health/tracking-happening-states-reopen/story?id=70961608
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You forget a whole bunch of young whites were made unemployed, and no college so had to move back in with parents.
Are the cities opening back up in the US? If pollution kicks up again then that's in favour of the virus. Next few weeks will be interesting.
Corona’s 15 minutes is over. The mask thing didn’t really take off in NYC until late April early May when the numbers were already in steep decline. New York City is scheduled to reopen next Monday. The rest of the state is already open. This was known way way in advance.
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Corona’s 15 minutes is over. The mask thing didn’t really take off in NYC until late April early May when the numbers were already in steep decline. New York City is scheduled to reopen next Monday. The rest of the state is already open. This was known way way in advance.
Yes it was, by me back in Feb when most had no clue wtf was going on including so called epidemiologists. You're all welcome
Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.
The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.
It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.
As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.
But take note of this too.
The warmer weather and extra sunlight is keeping Australia and the southern hemisphere relatively safe from the spread right now.
If remnants of the virus survive the Northern hemisphere summer then we could see the virus re-emerge in the southern hemisphere winter.
The good thing about the panic is that in general people are taking more care with their hygiene now, so we may end up seeing a drop off in the numbers suffering from the common cold and flu.
It can yoyo back and forth like flu if countries/states/cities don't reach some level of herd immunity, but it wont be here every year like flu or be as virulent as it has been this year. It will either become a seasonal "common cold" or disappear completely within a few of years.
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Thin Lizzy getting the fuck owned again
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Hes old and no matter what you tell him hes scared and will continue being scared.
Exactly what is it you think I am scared of? Dying? People my age and younger die all the time from natural causes. Why would the inevitable scare me?
While I'm not worried about contracting COVID-19, it concerns me that if I caught it, there's a good possibility I would be asymptomatic and not know that I was contagious. In that case, I could pass it on to someone much less healthy than I am which would make me somewhat responsible if they were to get ill and even die as a result.
It's not that I think I am invincible, but the fact remains that I am 75 years old and have never had any strain of the flu. Or, if I did, I definitely never got sick from it.
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Fuck Floyd
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Saggy is 75 again ::)
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Could go either way. The viral loads being spread right now are pretty low because people are outdoors, in warmer weather, and with more sunshine. So most vulnerables getting it now will clear it, develop immunity and possibly save themselves from any second wave in the winter.
The riots are helping bring about herd immunity.
This is not how it works....
The virus doesn't transit as well due to changing weather conditions this has nothing to do with viral loads......"viral loads" occur within the body, once the person is infected weather conditions have no effect on the infection.
So viral loads do not change with regard to weather conditions nor does seriousness of the infection once it takes place.
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This is not how it works....
The virus doesn't transit as well due to changing weather conditions this has nothing to do with viral loads......"viral loads" occur within the body, once the person is infected weather conditions have no effect on the infection.
So viral loads do not change with regard to weather conditions nor does seriousness of the infection once it takes place.
Connect the dots.
More sunshine > Warmer weather > More people outside > Higher Levels of Vitamin D > Better protection and ability to fight viral infection
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Fuck Floyd
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Coronavirus: Sweden's Tegnell admits too many died
Sweden's controversial decision not to impose a strict lockdown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic led to too many deaths, the man behind the policy, Anders Tegnell, has acknowledged.
Sweden has seen a far higher mortality rate than its nearest neighbours and its nationals are being barred from crossing their borders.
Dr Tegnell told Swedish radio more should have been done early on.
"There is quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done."
Sweden has counted 4,542 deaths and 40,803 infections in a population of 10 million, while Denmark, Norway and Finland have imposed lockdowns and seen far lower rates.
Denmark has seen 580 deaths, Norway has had 237 deaths and Finland 321. Sweden reported a further 74 deaths on Wednesday.
How Tegnell's views have changed
Dr Tegnell, who is Sweden's state epidemiologist and in charge of the country's response to Covid-19, told BBC News in April that the high death toll was mainly because homes for the elderly had been unable to keep the disease out, although he emphasised that "does not disqualify our strategy as a whole".
Now he has told Swedish public radio: "If we were to encounter the same disease again, knowing exactly what we know about it today, I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done."
When asked if too many people had died too soon, Dr Tegnell said, "Yes, absolutely."
However, he was unclear what Sweden should have done differently and at a press conference later on Wednesday later he underlined that "we basically still think that is the right strategy for Sweden".
Trying to guide the response was rather like steering an ocean liner, as every measure took three or four weeks to work its way through.
While Sweden's approach had been to increase its response step by step, other countries had imposed immediate lockdowns and gradually reopened, he said.
He warned it was too early to say whether the lockdowns had worked or not. "We know from history during the last three or four months that this disease has a very high capacity to start spreading again."
What was Sweden's response?
Although there was no lockdown, Sweden relied on voluntary social distancing, banning gatherings of more than 50 people and halting visits to elderly care homes.
Non-essential travel is still not recommended under national guidelines, but journeys of up to two hours are allowed to see relatives or close friends as long as they do not involve visits to local shops and mixing with other residents.
As Denmark and Norway have begun opening up again, there has been growing criticism of Sweden's response, both inside the country and among its neighbours.
Norway's public health chief Frode Forland said Sweden had focused too much on historical models of viruses, while its neighbours preferred lockdown measures.
Sweden's former state epidemiologist Annika Linde believes Sweden got its response wrong and should have focused on three things:
An early lockdown
Greater protection of care homes
Intensive testing and contact tracing in areas of outbreaks
According to Swedish media, Dr Tegnell and his family were subjected to threats by email last month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52903717
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Sweden's numbers are still better then countries like the UK, France and Spain who all locked down. Out of the death numbers, how many were low life Somali migrants who didn't follow protocols?
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According to Neil Ferguson (the guy who put together the stupid death model for Covid-19) the shutdown did nothing to stop the virus spreading. Sweden was the only country that was smart in all of this. He predicted 90,000 would die in Sweden. ::)
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I'll believe the hype when I see these British protesters die soon.
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It's interesting who the authorities care to enforce social distancing on and who they don't.
Stay in your home or you will be arrested. If you don't obey the rules millions will die. Our entire society has to grind to a halt for an indefinite period of time.
Unless you are an angry mob of minorities. You guys can do what ever the fuck you want. We're with you!!!
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It's interesting who the authorities care to enforce social distancing on and who they don't.
Stay in your home or you will be arrested. If you don't obey the rules millions will die. Our entire society has to grind to a halt for an indefinite period of time.
Unless you are an angry mob of minorities. You guys can do what ever the fuck you want. We're with you!!!
Ha , Yes your 100% correct. China Virus not a concern 🙄 or Mob Immunity is it.
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New quarantine rules to stop people bringing Covid onto our shores via the airports
Nope, it's to stop people from the UK going on holiday abroad knowing they will have to self isolate for another two weeks after they get back.
This way people holiday in the UK and spend money here
It has fuck all to do with health, its economics..
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Pennsylvania’s transvestite secretary of Health:
Not okay to open your business
but
Okay to protest
Watch here: https://twitter.com/ChatChristi/status/1268311865106415616
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Pennsylvania’s transvestite secretary of Health:
Not okay to open your business
but
Okay to protest
Watch here: https://twitter.com/ChatChristi/status/1268311865106415616
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What has being a transsexual got to do with being qualified to be secretary of health? Honestly, this person looked like a nerd before they transitioned and they still do.
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What has being a transsexual got to do with being qualified to be secretary of health? Honestly, this person looked like a nerd before they transitioned and they still do.
Nothing was inferred pro or con about transsexuality having to do with being qualified to be secretary of health.
If I replaced the word "transvestite" with "bodybuilder" and had a before and after bodybuilding photo, would you interpret that as questioning qualifications based on bodybuilder status?
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Nothing was inferred pro or con about transsexuality having to do with being qualified to be secretary of health.
If I replaced the word "transvestite" with "bodybuilder" and had a before and after bodybuilding photo, would you interpret that as questioning qualifications based on bodybuilder status?
Oh really? Well then, shoot me. One question I have is why did you post this in the first place if not to discredit this Secretary of Health?
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Oh really? Well then, shoot me. One question I have is why did you post this in the first place if not to discredit this Secretary of Health?
To link people to a Twitter post of the PA Secretary of Health reporting the state administration's position on restricting people's right to protest as well as their position on restricting people's right to work.
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Covid19. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
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What has being a transsexual got to do with being qualified to be secretary of health? Honestly, this person looked like a nerd before they transitioned and they still do.
Are you fucking serious?
He's trolling he has to be. Someone reassure me this is not reality I am living in, I must wake up.
Must
Wake
Up
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Covid19. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
Kang Flu , I told ya ;D ;D ;D
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Amazon Warehouses Are Still Seeing Coronavirus Outbreaks. Why Did They End Hazard Pay?
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The ignorance of the left is stunning.
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The ignorance of the left is stunning.
There are no words honestly.. I keep trying to figure it out as I can't even have a normal conversation with my sister any longer.
She's gone off the deep end along with all her friends.
Its remarkable that they can't see how brainwashed and ludicrous they are/act
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There are no words honestly.. I keep trying to figure it out as I can't even have a normal conversation with my sister any longer.
She's gone off the deep end along with all her friends.
Its remarkable that they can't see how brainwashed and ludicrous they are/act
You can't debate with them because they don't deal with logic, reason, or facts at all, just emotions. It's from all the school indoctrination as well as PC culture.
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What a fraud. As soon as a political hot bottom issue can be exploited, the social distancing bullshit goes out the window.
Getbig right once again:
George Floyd Protest In Center City Draws Thousands As Philadelphia Under Curfew For Eighth Straight Night – CBS Philly
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/06/06/mandatory-curfew-issued-in-philadelphia-for-eighth-night-as-massive-george-floyd-protest-held-at-art-museum/
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Considering so many thousands of people have been gathering so close together, where are all the deaths from Coronavirus? ???
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Considering so many thousands of people have been gathering so close together, where are all the deaths from Coronavirus? ???
Just wait.
We’ve been waiting 35 years for AIDS to “explode” into the heterosexual population, but it’s gonna happen.💪
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Considering so many thousands of people have been gathering so close together, where are all the deaths from Coronavirus? ???
It takes 14 days to show symptoms on people. Soon the numbers will go up
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Oh, come on, please tell me that headline is photoshopped. :-X :-X
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Considering so many thousands of people have been gathering so close together, where are all the deaths from Coronavirus? ???
If the hospitals are not over run in three weeks then you know the virus is as good as gone
They asked a SAGE scientist this morning on TV about the gatherings he was squirming trying to avoid denouncing the protests, he said that for every 1000 people that were there one person would have the virus, so bearing in mind the transfer rate is less than 1 it shouldn't cause too many cases but it wasn't wise gathering.
If you take his argument then for every 1000 people you meet you might catch it off them
Begs the question "whats the fucking problem then if its that unlikely to catch it?"
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Global Deaths Due to Various Causes and COVID-19 in 2020
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2637725/?utm_source=showcase&fbclid=IwAR1nqIU5lvtLbMl_M8Iw_jkJkQqixx_nwlsLljCA_J9N5rYsAyhkuoltIzU (https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2637725/?utm_source=showcase&fbclid=IwAR1nqIU5lvtLbMl_M8Iw_jkJkQqixx_nwlsLljCA_J9N5rYsAyhkuoltIzU)
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Global Deaths Due to Various Causes and COVID-19 in 2020
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2637725/?utm_source=showcase&fbclid=IwAR1nqIU5lvtLbMl_M8Iw_jkJkQqixx_nwlsLljCA_J9N5rYsAyhkuoltIzU (https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2637725/?utm_source=showcase&fbclid=IwAR1nqIU5lvtLbMl_M8Iw_jkJkQqixx_nwlsLljCA_J9N5rYsAyhkuoltIzU)
they have been adding Covid to almost every single cause of death certificate, Influenza normally kills between 250k upwards of 650k worldwide, its odd its only 82k so far this year
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On the other hand the real no of deaths are likely much higher
Anyone that think Sweden got more deaths than China is a fool
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they have been adding Covid to almost every single cause of death certificate, Influenza normally kills between 250k upwards of 650k worldwide, its odd its only 82k so far this year
2.8 million die in the U.S every year. Not hard to shift some of those deaths from their primary cause over to Covid.
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2.8 million die in the U.S every year. Not hard to shift some of those deaths from their primary cause over to Covid.
and 500,000 in the uk alone..and they have been shifting the majority of deaths to covid
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That so many die each year outta the flu just shows that governements are not doing enough to save the elderly under "normal" circumstances - either.
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We don't even need a vaccine anymore. George Floyd eradicated Covid-19.
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Considering so many thousands of people have been gathering so close together, where are all the deaths from Coronavirus? ???
no gib/wiggzy to predict another 'The End' ..................... :D
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Oh, come on, please tell me that headline is photoshopped. :-X :-X
It was 100% broadcast. Not a photoshop.
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World has gone crazy
Crazy times to live in these days!
What happens in the US for example, comes to Sweden in an instant.
Here we have hordes that Attack Cops, with Fuck the Police and BLM signs and white people saying that "It's important to protest, we don't care if white people die due to Corona" and such
Even where i live they have sprayed "Black Lives Matter"!
Hilarious times!
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The left has finally gone full retard.... Time for a right on left war, eliminate them all.
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Now that the economy has been successfully destroyed...
CNBC: Correction: Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare," the WHO says.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250 (https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250)
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Very rare as in it doesn’t fucking happen.
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Figures from NHS England of people whose death certificate shows death from ONLY coronavirus, ie No pre-existing condition.
Age 0-19: 3
Age 20-39: 32
Age 40-59: 244
Age 60-79: 538
Age 80+: 448
Total: 1265
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Now that the economy has been successfully destroyed...
CNBC: Correction: Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare," the WHO says.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250 (https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250)
That plus this from May 21. What's next? CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/
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That plus this from May 21. What's next? CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/
It will eventually be milder than seasonal flu.
But you don't want to sleep on this virus, it's not out for the count yet. It will catch it's second wind around October. Plenty of old people for it to still take out.
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Now that the economy has been successfully destroyed...
CNBC: Correction: Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is "very rare," the WHO says.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250 (https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1270063282569781250)
Called it weeks ago
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World has gone crazy
Crazy times to live in these days!
What happens in the US for example, comes to Sweden in an instant.
??? no protests in Mongolia,Hungary,Bolivia,AFRICA (55 countries),Indonesia,Yemen,Iraq,................................
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That plus this from May 21. What's next? CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/
But what about the MIT study?
http://web.mit.edu/jeffrey/harris/HarrisJE_WP2_COVID19_NYC_24-Apr-2020.pdf
Second, an infected person constantly sheds virus particles on almost every surface he touches, such as glasses, keys and phones. That would include the vertical metallic poles shared by standing passengers. A crowded subway train is thus an ideal incubator for coronavirus transmission (Qian et al. 2020).
******
More proof that most studies are absolute shit.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA!
The corona virus. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA.
And some of you actually fell for it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA.
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they have been adding Covid to almost every single cause of death certificate, Influenza normally kills between 250k upwards of 650k worldwide, its odd its only 82k so far this year
You say this with such certainty. How could you possibly know that "they" (whoever they are) are listing COVID-19 as the cause of death on almost every death certificate. Surely, you exaggerate.
Is it not possible that folks who might otherwise have gotten the flu ended up sick with COVID-19 since both are viruses? One difference is there is usually a mutated strain of the flu for which vaccines aren't as effective. Flu season is October through March. According to the CDC, in the U.S. there were between 39,000,000 – 56,000,000 flu illnesses during this year's season and 24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths. COVID-19 hit the U.S. in January. Since then there have been 2,020,000 cases and 117,586 deaths. If these figures are accurate COVID-19 is far, far more deadly than the flu.
There aren't good statistics for flu cases and deaths worldwide. The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths. I could not find information on this year's number of influenza deaths worldwide. Where did you read that it was 82,000? That figure seems a bit odd since there were as many as 62,000 flu deaths in the U.S. alone which leaves only 20,000 deaths for the rest of the world.
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How many getbiggers did we lose?
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How many getbiggers did we lose?
quite a few actually
I mean- this virus was extremely deadly towards African Americans.....plus factor in that they were obese you nearly double your chance of dying
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Oh you said getbiggers
....i thought you said big nig..... :o :o :o
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You say this with such certainty. How could you possibly know that "they" (whoever they are) are listing COVID-19 as the cause of death on almost every death certificate. Surely, you exaggerate.
Is it not possible that folks who might otherwise have gotten the flu ended up sick with COVID-19 since both are viruses? One difference is there is usually a mutated strain of the flu for which vaccines aren't as effective. Flu season is October through March. According to the CDC, in the U.S. there were between 39,000,000 – 56,000,000 flu illnesses during this year's season and 24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths. COVID-19 hit the U.S. in January. Since then there have been 2,020,000 cases and 117,586 deaths. If these figures are accurate COVID-19 is far, far more deadly than the flu.
There aren't good statistics for flu cases and deaths worldwide. The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths. I could not find information on this year's number of influenza deaths worldwide. Where did you read that it was 82,000? That figure seems a bit odd since there were as many as 62,000 flu deaths in the U.S. alone which leaves only 20,000 deaths for the rest of the world.
No, Im not making it up, its been admitted already, a death can be listed as Covid as long as they have shown symptoms, no test required, look at the graph posted above
I have already posted the governments guidance on establishing cause of death, most cause of death autopsy reports list several symptoms that cause death, its not that hard to add covid as well bearng in mind we are in the middle of a pandemic
Deaths in the UK from covid alone on the death cert 1265
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Oh you said getbiggers
....i thought you said big nig..... :o :o :o
LOL! ;D
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It will eventually be milder than seasonal flu.
But you don't want to sleep on this virus, it's not out for the count yet. It will catch it's second wind around October. Plenty of old people for it to still take out.
You missed my post.
The WHO is not saying now that "eventually" asymptomatic spread of coronavirus "will be" very rare. They are saying now that it is rare, always has been, and that they were originally wrong about that.
The CDC is not saying now that "eventually" the virus "will not be" spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals. They are saying now that it is not spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals, never was, and that they were wrong about that.
Same goes for "don't wear a face mask" to "you must wear a face mask" to "face masks aren't necessary."
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You missed my post.
The WHO is not saying now that "eventually" asymptomatic spread of coronavirus "will be" very rare. They are saying now that it is rare, always has been, and that they were originally wrong about that.
The CDC is not saying now that "eventually" the virus "will not be" spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals. They are saying now that it is not spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals, never was, and that they were wrong about that.
Same goes for "don't wear a face mask" to "you must wear a face mask" to "face masks aren't necessary."
The points regarding the WHO and CDC means very little to me as I stopped paying attention to them very early on.
It was very obvious from the start they were either full of BS or completely clueless (The former more likely than the latter). Remember they once claimed that there was no human to human transmission.
Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.
Where are you working bro? Having to wear a mask will suck. I will be refusing/avoiding it where possible even if that means I have to walk 2 hours to get to work instead of taking the train.
The asymptomatic reporting has always been wrong so means nothing. The way the media reported things has most people confused between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread.
The WHO have actually always said asymptomatic spread is unlikely. It's the media that misled people on this one. They were labelling people spreading virus as asymptomatic during the few days before they went on to develop symptoms. They should have been calling them presymptomaic.
The bigger question is given the WHO have always said asymptomatic spread is likely rare, why is it suddenly making the news now and in this way.
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WHO: Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus appears to be ‘very rare’
The New York Post ^ | June 8, 2020 | Bob Fredericks
Posted on 6/9/2020, 9:58:38 AM by Texas Fossil
People who have the coronavirus but don’t display symptoms aren’t driving the spread of the pandemic, World Health Organization officials said Monday.
“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing in Geneva, CNBC reported.
“It’s very rare.”
Health officials warned early on that asymptomatic carriers could be fueling the spread by stealth — but Van Kerkhove said that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way the virus was being transmitted.
“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” she said.
“They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare,” she said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
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No, Im not making it up, its been admitted already, a death can be listed as Covid as long as they have shown symptoms, no test required, look at the graph posted above
I have already posted the governments guidance on establishing cause of death, most cause of death autopsy reports list several symptoms that cause death, its not that hard to add covid as well bearng in mind we are in the middle of a pandemic
Deaths in the UK from covid alone on the death cert 1265
You wrote "almost every death certificate". Had you said many death certificates, that would be more believable....at least to me. Anyway, I assume by they you mean doctors and nurse practitioners since coroners are usually involved in deaths from natural causes. So, what reason do these folks, WHO or the CDC have to make the COVID-19 appear to be greater than it is?
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You wrote "almost every death certificate". Had you said many death certificates, that would be more believable....at least to me. Anyway, I assume by they you mean doctors and nurse practitioners since coroners are usually involved in deaths from natural causes. So, what reason do these folks, WHO or the CDC have to make the COVID-19 appear to be greater than it is?
Well, thats something we may never know, one things for sure it this pandemic was a lot more than a virus.
They are now claiming the chances of passing the virus on if you are asymptomatic are very low indeed, which begs the question why bother locking down people with no symptoms?
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The Corona Virus doesn't spread at gatherings I support.
'Running a store bad, looting a store good. I'm not a scientist...
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Let's suppose we've been trolled by the corona virus. For what reason then? Why the economies will shut down and everybody will loose alot of money?
The lockdown was not even so long to destroy small business. So why they'll make this virus up?
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Well, thats something we may never know, one things for sure it this pandemic was a lot more than a virus.
They are now claiming the chances of passing the virus on if you are asymptomatic are very low indeed, which begs the question why bother locking down people with no symptoms?
If by "they" you mean the WHO then they always made a point of asymptomatic spread being unlikely. It was certain parts of the media who have and are confusing the issue.
Also how do you know if you're an asymptomatic non spreader or presymptomatic spreader?
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serious question - what do we call people who don't have it
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You wrote "almost every death certificate". Had you said many death certificates, that would be more believable....at least to me. Anyway, I assume by they you mean doctors and nurse practitioners since coroners are usually involved in deaths from natural causes. So, what reason do these folks, WHO or the CDC have to make the COVID-19 appear to be greater than it is?
There have been trillions of dollars printed as a result of this. That’s not an opinion. It’s fact. Do you not think some of that money is going to the medical establishment?
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Let's suppose we've been trolled by the corona virus. For what reason then? Why the economies will shut down and everybody will loose alot of money?
The lockdown was not even so long to destroy small business. So why they'll make this virus up?
The virus is real. A lot of governments were willing to take a hit on the death toll though, but then some "experts" and media pressured them into shutting down telling them we'll bury you if you don't.
Governments gave in and shut down. Some politicians, lobbyists and mega wealthy saw this as their chance to consolidate power and profit . The same shit basically happened after the Spanish flu and 9/11 so they already had a playbook.
Also note that not everyone lost a lot of money. It was mostly the middle class.
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serious question - what do we call people who don't have it
the majority...?
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Bodybuilder with Covid-19
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-52651620/coronavirus-birmingham-bodybuilder-s-road-to-recovery
ethnic groups 2x larger risk group than whites:
https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_audio/headlines/52969054/bame-coronavirus-deaths-what-s-the-risk-for-ethnic-minorities
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Donny, 34, died of Corona
https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/brookfield/2020/04/09/coronavirus-new-york-brookfield-parents-mourn-son-who-died/5121289002/
Chris Trousernake, 34, died of Corona
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/music/singer-actor-chris-trousdale-death-coronavirus-at-34-6442560/
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The points regarding the WHO and CDC means very little to me as I stopped paying attention to them very early on.
It was very obvious from the start they were either full of BS or completely clueless (The former more likely than the latter). Remember they once claimed that there was no human to human transmission.
Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.
The asymptomatic reporting has always been wrong so means nothing. The way the media reported things has most people confused between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread.
The WHO have actually always said asymptomatic spread is unlikely. It's the media that misled people on this one. They were labelling people spreading virus as asymptomatic during the few days before they went on to develop symptoms. They should have been calling them presymptomaic.
The bigger question is given the WHO have always said asymptomatic spread is likely rare, why is it suddenly making the news now and in this way.
WHO walks back statement on 'very rare' asymptomatic spread as infectious disease experts say it is 'not accurate'
Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, says that the statement left epidemiologists “scratching their heads” afterward. “We were all confused,” says Schaffner. “What’s clear is that they’ve made things less clear.”
He says WHO’s stating that asymptomatic spread is rare “undercuts” the organization’s earlier messages on the importance of masks. “When you translate science to the real world, you’ve got to adhere to the KISS admonition: keep it simple, stupid,” says Schaffner. “You’ve got to boil it down. If the messages get too nuanced, you create confusion. And that’s exactly what happened. If highly sophisticated infectious disease doctors were confused about the message, you can be sure that John and Jane were also confused.”
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/who-walks-back-statement-very-rare-asymptomatic-spread-infectious-disease-experts-not-accurate-193933330.html
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Same thing happened when a Fox host let the truth sneak out. The main stream fake news media immediately jumped in to cover it up:
Video misrepresents journalists’ comments in White House briefing room
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8795340022
In the video, Mills greets Roberts. “What do you know, buddy?” Mills asks Roberts, who responds, “You can take off the mask, the case fatality rate is 0.1 to 0.3, according to USC.”
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WHO walks back statement on 'very rare' asymptomatic spread as infectious disease experts say it is 'not accurate'
Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, says that the statement left epidemiologists “scratching their heads” afterward. “We were all confused,” says Schaffner. “What’s clear is that they’ve made things less clear.”
He says WHO’s stating that asymptomatic spread is rare “undercuts” the organization’s earlier messages on the importance of masks. “When you translate science to the real world, you’ve got to adhere to the KISS admonition: keep it simple, stupid,” says Schaffner. “You’ve got to boil it down. If the messages get too nuanced, you create confusion. And that’s exactly what happened. If highly sophisticated infectious disease doctors were confused about the message, you can be sure that John and Jane were also confused.”
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/who-walks-back-statement-very-rare-asymptomatic-spread-infectious-disease-experts-not-accurate-193933330.html
When are you lot gonna learn ::) You are falling for media spin and agendas. If I were to defend them I'd say they were only saying this to try protect people from themselves as most people seem unable to understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread, so they are just trying to keep things simple.
However this is the WHO and as I have said they have shown the can't be trusted and have their own agendas and puppet masters. Here is what they said over 2 months ago when there was no media spot light on this.
"An asymptomatic laboratory-confirmed case is a person infected with COVID-19 who does not develop symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission refers to transmission of the virus from a person, who does not develop symptoms.There are few reports of laboratory-confirmed cases who are truly asymptomatic, and to date, there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission. This does not exclude the possibility that it may occur. Asymptomatic cases have been reported as part of contact tracing efforts in some countries. WHO regularly monitors all emerging evidence about this critical topic and will provide an update as more information becomes available."
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=5ae25bc7_2
Try looking away from mainstream media and think for yourself if you want to understand the virus and the reality of the situation.
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When are you lot gonna learn ::) You are falling for media spin and agendas. If I were to defend them I'd say they were only saying this to try protect people from themselves as most people seem unable to understand the difference between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread, so they are just trying to keep things simple.
However this is the WHO and as I have said they have shown the can't be trusted and have their own agendas and puppet masters. Here is what they said over 2 months ago when there was no media spot light on this.
"An asymptomatic laboratory-confirmed case is a person infected with COVID-19 who does not develop symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission refers to transmission of the virus from a person, who does not develop symptoms.There are few reports of laboratory-confirmed cases who are truly asymptomatic, and to date, there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission. This does not exclude the possibility that it may occur. Asymptomatic cases have been reported as part of contact tracing efforts in some countries. WHO regularly monitors all emerging evidence about this critical topic and will provide an update as more information becomes available."
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=5ae25bc7_2
Try looking away from mainstream media and think for yourself if you want to understand the virus and the reality of the situation.
You've missed my point yet again.
If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.
Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.
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You've missed my point yet again.
If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.
Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.
Maybe cos you aren't actually making a point and keep missing my point and trying to engage me with WHO posts, when I clearly said the WHO are full of BS, but on the point of asymptomatic spread they had been consistent (until today, backing up my point that they are actually full of BS)
The points regarding the WHO and CDC means very little to me as I stopped paying attention to them very early on.
It was very obvious from the start they were either full of BS or completely clueless (The former more likely than the latter). Remember they once claimed that there was no human to human transmission.
Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.
The asymptomatic reporting has always been wrong so means nothing. The way the media reported things has most people confused between asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread.
The WHO have actually always said asymptomatic spread is unlikely. It's the media that misled people on this one. They were labelling people spreading virus as asymptomatic during the few days before they went on to develop symptoms. They should have been calling them presymptomaic.
The bigger question is given the WHO have always said asymptomatic spread is likely rare, why is it suddenly making the news now and in this way.
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Maybe cos you aren't actually making a point and keep missing my point and trying to engage me with WHO posts, when I clearly said the WHO are full of BS, but on the point of asymptomatic spread they had been consistent (until today, backing up my point that they are actually full of BS)
I never did "engage" you. You replied to my post below, defending the WHO. If they can't be trusted, then who cares if they were consistent on anything until now?
That plus this from May 21. What's next? CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/
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I never did "engage" you. You replied to my post below, defending the WHO. If they can't be trusted, then who cares if they were consistent on anything until now?
It's one page back, surely it's not that had to check.
That plus this from May 21. What's next? CDC and WHO say CORRECTION: "It's just the flu, bro."
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/
It will eventually be milder than seasonal flu.
But you don't want to sleep on this virus, it's not out for the count yet. It will catch it's second wind around October. Plenty of old people for it to still take out.
You missed my post.
The WHO is not saying now that "eventually" asymptomatic spread of coronavirus "will be" very rare. They are saying now that it is rare, always has been, and that they were originally wrong about that.
The CDC is not saying now that "eventually" the virus "will not be" spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals. They are saying now that it is not spread easily from contaminated surfaces or animals, never was, and that they were wrong about that.
Same goes for "don't wear a face mask" to "you must wear a face mask" to "face masks aren't necessary."
I said nothing about the WHO until, you engaged me on it. I actually ignored the WHO stuff, until you asked me to check your post. Also I did not defend the WHO, I corrected misinformation.
Son, take a break and avoid making a bigger fool of yourself than you already have. Go clear your head as you're obviously not thinking straight.
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It's one page back, surely it's not that had to check.
I said nothing about the WHO until, you engaged me on it. I actually ignored the WHO stuff, until you asked me to check your post. Also I did not defend the WHO, I corrected misinformation.
Son, take a break and clear your head as you're obviously not thinking straight.
LOL ;D
Whatever you say, WHO apologist.
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LOL ;D
Whatever you say, WHO apologist.
Apology accepted.
Still waiting for Armyofone to show some balls and post in here. He's owed a bitch slapping.
**Just so I can qoute this. Army will show his face as soon as there is a sign of a second with some BS like I told you.
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serious question - what do we call people who don't have it
Unsymptomatic non-spreaders?
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serious question - what do we call people who don't have it
Susceptible
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Are we all still screwed?
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Are we all still screwed?
we have been screwed, its all over now though, might get a few more cases in the winter again, but its gone now
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we have been screwed, its all over now though, might get a few more cases in the winter again, but its gone now
We’re still getting screwed By MSM / Loopy Liberal Leftists / BLM PC Brigade Etc
It’s long overdue a Big war sort it out - It fucking mayhem out there now - Either that lot win or
Us Centre Right / Right wingers do - This ever increasing Bollocks is Ridiculous.
As For China Flu that was an almighty over Reaction to a Man Manipulated Virus.
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We’re still getting screwed By MSM / Loopy Liberal Leftists / BLM PC Brigade Etc
It’s long overdue a Big war sort it out - It fucking mayhem out there now - Either that lot win or
Us Centre Right / Right wingers do - This ever increasing Bollocks is Ridiculous.
As For China Flu that was an almighty over Reaction to a Man Manipulated Virus.
people who encourage the BLM movement will soon have them burning down their house..
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Well, thats something we may never know, one things for sure it this pandemic was a lot more than a virus.
They are now claiming the chances of passing the virus on if you are asymptomatic are very low indeed, which begs the question why bother locking down people with no symptoms?
One can hardly keep up with the claims. The WHO claimed those who are asymptomatic have little chance of passing on the virus. The claim made sense since the virus is supposedly airborne. The very next day, I read that the WHO was backing off that claim. There is a lot more speculation than knowledge in the information we are given.
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One can hardly keep up with the claims. The WHO claimed those who are asymptomatic have little chance of passing on the virus. The claim made sense since the virus is supposedly airborne. The very next day, I read that the WHO was backing off that claim. There is a lot more speculation than knowledge in the information we are given.
Its best to use your own judgement and stop listening to the "experts"
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Let's suppose we've been trolled by the corona virus. For what reason then? Why the economies will shut down and everybody will loose alot of money?
The lockdown was not even so long to destroy small business. So why they'll make this virus up?
Who made the virus up? Nobody, that's who. The virus is real. Those folks that think the whole world is being conspired against should ask themselves, who has enough power over the entire planet to do that? Only God does as far as I can tell. Unless of course, it is some alien power who has yet to reveal themselves.
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If by "they" you mean the WHO then they always made a point of asymptomatic spread being unlikely. It was certain parts of the media who have and are confusing the issue.
Also how do you know if you're an asymptomatic non spreader or presymptomatic spreader?
Unless everyone gets tested and retested on a regular basis, they cannot know that they are spreading the virus. This is why social distancing only works if everyone practices it.
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serious question - what do we call people who don't have it
Healthy.
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There have been trillions of dollars printed as a result of this. That’s not an opinion. It’s fact. Do you not think some of that money is going to the medical establishment?
Not sure why that makes a difference except that it helps pay for the financial cost the virus has on medical insurance coverage, hospitals and doctors. People who get sick and don't have medical insurance still get treated.
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people who encourage the BLM movement will soon have them burning down their house..
Ha ha - Yes that’s one of the Few Positives about it.
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Bodybuilder with Covid-19
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-52651620/coronavirus-birmingham-bodybuilder-s-road-to-recovery
Good for you. Getbig is after all a bodybuilding and fitness forum.
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You've missed my point yet again.
If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.
Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.
Who do you trust? Do you trust conspiracy theorist on an internet board?
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Who made the virus up? Nobody, that's who. The virus is real. Those folks that think the whole world is being conspired against should ask themselves, who has enough power over the entire planet to do that? Only God does as far as I can tell. Unless of course, it is some alien power who has yet to reveal themselves.
I’d say it’s a fair bet the Chinese made the Virus - That’s who.
The chinks & WHO covered it up for 2/3mnths. Chinks flying all over the world spreading the virus
Until eventually the Chinks & WHO couldn’t cover it up any longer.
Most countries went into panic mode with it being a man made / altered virus & The OTT extreme
Locked up measures- Sure it’s a potent virus - Now we Know it’s No worse than Flu or Pneumonia.
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You've missed my point yet again.
If you read all my posts in this and other threads regarding this pandemic, you'll see that I trust neither the MSM nor the WHO, which I believe are useless and corrupt.
Except for what you posted above about the WHO, it seemed up until now you believed them and were defending them.
And I’d say you’re correct - Time after time MSM Agenda & what they cover Broadcast is found to be
Very edited & Biased- As for The WHO they have also let millions of people down badly.
It does appear a very corrupt organisation & has far to close links with the Chinks.
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Its best to use your own judgement and stop listening to the "experts"
Use my own judgement. -Sounds like a plan. What makes me able to judge something I, nor most of us know nothing about? My logic? My commonsense? -Fact is that the "experts" (people with training in these areas), are struggling for answers. I seriously do not believe those of us who are not educated in medical, scientific and epidemiology areas know more than these "expert's" do about COVID-19.
Logic tells me the virus is real. It also tells me that as much as I may think I am, I am probably not immune to the virus. My health is excellent, so it is safe to assume I don't have compromising health issues. My age could be a problem. Looking at all this, commonsense suggests I could take reasonable precautions to not contract COVID-19. Therefore, I will wear a mask when out in public and I will continue to practice social distancing. I'm luckier than some folks in that I don't need to work for an income. If I did, that would impact my commonsense conclusions.
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Good for you. Getbig is after all a bodybuilding and fitness forum.
yes got to post something bodybuilding related every 100th post or so
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I’d say it’s a fair bet the Chinese made the Virus - That’s who.
The chinks & WHO covered it up for 2/3mnths. Chinks flying all over the world spreading the virus
Until eventually the Chinks & WHO couldn’t cover it up any longer.
Most countries went into panic mode with it being a man made / altered virus & The OTT extreme
Locked up measures- Sure it’s a potent virus - Now we Know it’s No worse than Flu or Pneumonia.
My response was to the question of whether COVID-19 is real or not. I believe it is very real. Your comment about who made it, only confirms what I was saying. There's quite a difference in the meanings of made up (created), or made it up (imagined).
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yes got to post something bodybuilding related every 100th post or so
;) ;) ;)
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Starbucks to close up to 400 U.S. stores
Coffee giant Starbucks announced Wednesday in an SEC filing it will close up to 400 company-operated stores over the next 18 months.
There are over 250 Starbucks locations in New Jersey but it is unknown if any will be impacted. A Starbucks spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Starbucks said it expects to lose up to $3.2 billion in revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic, and the closures are to “strategically optimize our portfolio.”
The filing also said Starbucks has plans to open an additional 300 stores this year, down from 600 originally, as well as renovate layouts in select stores.
“As we navigate through the COVID-19 crisis, we are accelerating our store transformation plans to address the realities of the current situation, while still providing a safe, familiar and convenient experience for our customers,” CEO Kevin Johnson said in a statement.
In March, Starbucks closed its dining rooms and transitioned to only drive-thru and delivery services. Select cafes reopened in May, but those in New Jersey still remain closed.
https://www.nj.com/business/2020/06/starbucks-to-close-up-to-400-us-stores.html?utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Joz52MOCx8uzFceKOFrK_EIMtMsR4GEp76r4xnmnHbCqLg7Ryx6cmi6Y
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Starbucks to close up to 400 U.S. stores
Coffee giant Starbucks announced Wednesday in an SEC filing it will close up to 400 company-operated stores over the next 18 months.
There are over 250 Starbucks locations in New Jersey but it is unknown if any will be impacted. A Starbucks spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Starbucks said it expects to lose up to $3.2 billion in revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic, and the closures are to “strategically optimize our portfolio.”
The filing also said Starbucks has plans to open an additional 300 stores this year, down from 600 originally, as well as renovate layouts in select stores.
“As we navigate through the COVID-19 crisis, we are accelerating our store transformation plans to address the realities of the current situation, while still providing a safe, familiar and convenient experience for our customers,” CEO Kevin Johnson said in a statement.
In March, Starbucks closed its dining rooms and transitioned to only drive-thru and delivery services. Select cafes reopened in May, but those in New Jersey still remain closed.
https://www.nj.com/business/2020/06/starbucks-to-close-up-to-400-us-stores.html?utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Joz52MOCx8uzFceKOFrK_EIMtMsR4GEp76r4xnmnHbCqLg7Ryx6cmi6Y
It's shit coffee anyways.
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Starbucks to close up to 400 U.S. stores
Coffee giant Starbucks announced Wednesday in an SEC filing it will close up to 400 company-operated stores over the next 18 months.
There are over 250 Starbucks locations in New Jersey but it is unknown if any will be impacted. A Starbucks spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Starbucks said it expects to lose up to $3.2 billion in revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic, and the closures are to “strategically optimize our portfolio.”
The filing also said Starbucks has plans to open an additional 300 stores this year, down from 600 originally, as well as renovate layouts in select stores.
“As we navigate through the COVID-19 crisis, we are accelerating our store transformation plans to address the realities of the current situation, while still providing a safe, familiar and convenient experience for our customers,” CEO Kevin Johnson said in a statement.
In March, Starbucks closed its dining rooms and transitioned to only drive-thru and delivery services. Select cafes reopened in May, but those in New Jersey still remain closed.
https://www.nj.com/business/2020/06/starbucks-to-close-up-to-400-us-stores.html?utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Joz52MOCx8uzFceKOFrK_EIMtMsR4GEp76r4xnmnHbCqLg7Ryx6cmi6Y
Starbucks is Krispy Kreme and Subway 2.0. I drive 15 mils to work and pass 7-8 SBs. Really!
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Starbucks is Krispy Kreme and Subway 2.0. I drive 15 mils to work and pass 7-8 SBs. Really!
Krispy Kreme is the pinnacle of glazed donut perfection.
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This is 100x deadlier than flu and looks to be spreading just as fast, how on earth did you reach the conclusion this is nothing much to worry about?Flu has been around for hundreds of years, this just a few months, and look how fast it is spreading.
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Starbucks to close up to 400 U.S. stores
It's simple, a lot of starbucks near office buildings will be closing because more office workers will now be working from home.
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He is calling it a win. Never mind the fact the someparts and gib broached the subject a month before he started this thread and that I've given an accurate path the virus would take down to numbers, timeline and location months ahead of it doing so.
I thought for myself when this whole forum was against me,when i was telling you you corona would hit us hard, would lead to us being locked down and mass civil unrest would follow.I read that nowhere here, or even in the media for that matter.Rather than be bitter that you are a sheep and were wildly wrong, open your mind and learn not to follow group think.
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Starbucks is Krispy Kreme and Subway 2.0. I drive 15 mils to work and pass 7-8 SBs. Really!
Starbucks is nothing like Krispy Kreme. 1,000 locations versus 31,000+ locations ???
One is a 1 billion dollar company and the other is a 92 billion dollar company. It’s not even close.
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Starbucks to close up to 400 U.S. stores
Coffee giant Starbucks announced Wednesday in an SEC filing it will close up to 400 company-operated stores over the next 18 months.
There are over 250 Starbucks locations in New Jersey but it is unknown if any will be impacted. A Starbucks spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Starbucks said it expects to lose up to $3.2 billion in revenue due to the coronavirus pandemic, and the closures are to “strategically optimize our portfolio.”
The filing also said Starbucks has plans to open an additional 300 stores this year, down from 600 originally, as well as renovate layouts in select stores.
“As we navigate through the COVID-19 crisis, we are accelerating our store transformation plans to address the realities of the current situation, while still providing a safe, familiar and convenient experience for our customers,” CEO Kevin Johnson said in a statement.
In March, Starbucks closed its dining rooms and transitioned to only drive-thru and delivery services. Select cafes reopened in May, but those in New Jersey still remain closed.
https://www.nj.com/business/2020/06/starbucks-to-close-up-to-400-us-stores.html?utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Joz52MOCx8uzFceKOFrK_EIMtMsR4GEp76r4xnmnHbCqLg7Ryx6cmi6Y
Companies reassess the value of their locations all the time. Starbucks is always closing stores and opening new ones. There are 3 Starbucks in West Linn. A few years ago, they closed one of them and then opened a new store a year later a block away.
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There have been trillions of dollars printed as a result of this. That’s not an opinion. It’s fact. Do you not think some of that money is going to the medical establishment?
Wasting your time dude
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It's simple, a lot of starbucks near office buildings will be closing because more office workers will now be working from home.
There is one Starbucks and two Dunkins near where I work. The Starbucks closed for the virus while the Dunkins installed safeguards like the counter shield and the distancing markers on the floor.
The Starbucks management made a choice and the employees of the closing locations have to deal with it.
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There is one Starbucks and two Dunkins near where I work. The Starbucks closed for the virus while the Dunkins installed safeguards like the counter shield and the distancing markers on the floor.
The Starbucks management made a choice and the employees of the closing locations have to deal with it.
For the safety of their employees, Starbucks closed all stores that didn't have a drive through take out.
Starbucks didn't stiff their employees. Far from it. They paid those who worked and extra $3.00 an hour. The rest got catastrophic pay with benefits for the month of April at least (not sure about May).
In Oregon with current social distancing restrictions, Starbucks is strictly take out.
https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/financing/starbucks-giving-employees-extra-pay-next-month
Duncan Donuts stayed open for drive through and pick-up only. They reduced hours of operations as well as number of staff.
Nothing I could find indicated if those employees who actually worked got extra pay or if those who were laid off got paid or had benefits.
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This is 100x deadlier than flu and looks to be spreading just as fast, how on earth did you reach the conclusion this is nothing much to worry about?Flu has been around for hundreds of years, this just a few months, and look how fast it is spreading.
;D Care for a do-over?
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;D Care for a do-over?
Looks like we might get a second shot. The number of new cases in Texas spiked. Austin, TX is extending stay at home and social distancing orders through June 15.
On Wednesday, Texas reported 2,504 new cases and 32 new deaths. For the third day in a row, the state also reported a record-high number of new hospitalizations at 2,153.
There are good reasons for getting the economy back on track. The way to do that is to reopen. But, there will definitely be a cost. Lives lost and more people getting sick. Anyone who thinks this thing is over, should think again.
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32 deaths? THIRTY-TWO? 32?
Come on! I killed more people than that last Tuesday at Arby's.
It's all over. The lie has been revealed as a lie.
Iron brother relax. Go to the gym. Have a drink. Pick up a MILF. The charade is over.
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32 deaths? THIRTY-TWO? 32?
Come on! I killed more people than that last Tuesday at Arby's.
It's all over. The lie has been revealed as a lie.
Iron brother relax. Go to the gym. Have a drink. Pick up a MILF. The charade is over.
We could have saved 32 lives if we had stayed at home another month. :'(
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We could have saved 32 lives if we had stayed at home another month. :'(
Thank you sir. Exactly.
Let me think... "waste $1,000,000,000,000,000 dollars and destroy thousands of lives, or 32 people get sick and die"
I'll take Door number two.
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My guess is that the median age of the 32 is over 80 with multiple pre-existings.
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Thank you sir. Exactly.
Let me think... "waste $1,000,000,000,000,000 dollars and destroy thousands of lives, or 32 people get sick and die"
I'll take Door number two.
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WTF?
Latest testing shows no big spike in COVID-19 cases due to protests
June 12, 2020
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/testing-shows-no-big-spike-223406160.html
As coronavirus cases spike, Fauci warns Trump rally attendees that large gatherings are ‘risky’
June 12, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/12/coronavirus-live-updates-us/
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WTF?
Latest testing shows no big spike in COVID-19 cases due to protests
June 12, 2020
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/testing-shows-no-big-spike-223406160.html
As coronavirus cases spike, Fauci warns Trump rally attendees that large gatherings are ‘risky’
June 12, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/12/coronavirus-live-updates-us/
Not going to post up links because it isn't worth the bother. Y'all are gonna believe whatever you want to anyway.
Oregon is back in the "red zone" since the phase I opening of most of counties in the state. As a result, Multnomah, County's application to begin phase I reopening has been put on hold by Governor Brown.
It is going to be a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation all over the country if not the world.
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Not going to post up links because it isn't worth the bother. Y'all are gonna believe whatever you want to anyway.
Oregon is back in the "red zone" since the phase I opening of most of counties in the state. As a result, Multnomah, County's application to begin phase I reopening has been put on hold by Governor Brown.
It is going to be a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation all over the country if not the world.
Apparently if we all protest, the virus will not touch us. Protesting makes people immune, even joggers.
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Hopefully this decimates the 'protesters'.
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What movies will they have next month? Black Widow has been moved to November.
AMC Theatres To Reopen in July, Be At Full Capacity By November
AMC Theatres rolled out a plan for reopening their cinemas beginning in mid-July, with theater capacity being increased in stages between July and November, using big-release weekends as pivot points. According to a statement released by AMC, its first phase will open at 30% capacity on July 15, followed by 40% at Phase 2. Labor Day marks the target date to have theaters 50% full, and the current plan is for cinemas to be back to normal in time for the releases of No Time To Die and Soul on Thanksgiving weekend. To accommodate this, AMC says it will automatically "black out" every other row in their cinemas not equipped with reclining seats.
That might mean blacking it out for preordered ticketing, not actually barring people from sitting there; simply removing certain rows would presumably cause crowding in the remaining rows and reduce social distancing. Of course, the argument could be made that it also created distance between people in front of and behind you.
AMC also told Deadline that they are committed to this timeline, regardless of whether movies like Tenet and Mulan move to later dates or not.
"More than 90% of the attendance of the AMC circuit from the entire United States" will be included in the first wave of openings in July, AMC's Adam Aron said in that interview. They will be in between 35 and 45 states.
https://comicbook.com/irl/news/amc-theatres-to-reopen-in-july-be-at-full-capacity-by-november/
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Australia has had a state driven cyber attack. Infrastructure, utilities, politics. Everything was attacked, all at the same time with top level methods. In other words, China just orchestrated a widespread attack to cripple the country.
A number of things have lead up to this. This isn't a corona thing btw. Oz pulled back on policies for foreign investment allowing all purchases and deals to be called into review annually, essentially allowing the govt to stop any deal. Partly because idiot states allowed control of key ports for 100yrs along with water rights, medical supplies and other key resources.
Rewind back a couple of months to when i said this corona thing would be China's undoing. Well, Oz already fired the first fuck you shots and they retaliated with a full blown cyber attack.
Meanwhile in the US debate rages over which breakfast cereal is racist.....
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What movies will they have next month? Black Widow has been moved to November.
AMC Theatres To Reopen in July, Be At Full Capacity By November
AMC Theatres rolled out a plan for reopening their cinemas beginning in mid-July, with theater capacity being increased in stages between July and November, using big-release weekends as pivot points. According to a statement released by AMC, its first phase will open at 30% capacity on July 15, followed by 40% at Phase 2. Labor Day marks the target date to have theaters 50% full, and the current plan is for cinemas to be back to normal in time for the releases of No Time To Die and Soul on Thanksgiving weekend. To accommodate this, AMC says it will automatically "black out" every other row in their cinemas not equipped with reclining seats.
That might mean blacking it out for preordered ticketing, not actually barring people from sitting there; simply removing certain rows would presumably cause crowding in the remaining rows and reduce social distancing. Of course, the argument could be made that it also created distance between people in front of and behind you.
AMC also told Deadline that they are committed to this timeline, regardless of whether movies like Tenet and Mulan move to later dates or not.
"More than 90% of the attendance of the AMC circuit from the entire United States" will be included in the first wave of openings in July, AMC's Adam Aron said in that interview. They will be in between 35 and 45 states.
https://comicbook.com/irl/news/amc-theatres-to-reopen-in-july-be-at-full-capacity-by-november/
Black Superman
Black Batman
Black Spider-Man
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Australia has had a state driven cyber attack. Infrastructure, utilities, politics. Everything was attacked, all at the same time with top level methods. In other words, China just orchestrated a widespread attack to cripple the country.
A number of things have lead up to this. This isn't a corona thing btw. Oz pulled back on policies for foreign investment allowing all purchases and deals to be called into review annually, essentially allowing the govt to stop any deal. Partly because idiot states allowed control of key ports for 100yrs along with water rights, medical supplies and other key resources.
Rewind back a couple of months to when i said this corona thing would be China's undoing. Well, Oz already fired the first fuck you shots and they retaliated with a full blown cyber attack.
Meanwhile in the US debate rages over which breakfast cereal is racist.....
Are you sure it wasn’t Lord Humungus?
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
*SNICKER*
::)
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Are you sure it wasn’t Lord Humungus?
LOL could be. He looks like a coder, small arms.
I was told the US military believes they will be at war with China in 2030.
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
How surprisingly, Serbian drunk ILALIN is back ....
Oh no, Mr.Trump just commanded yours prez to meet president of Kosovo in Washington ................
Looks like Kosovo will get another slice of Serbia , thanks to Mr.Trump ................
;D
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
Dude are you ok?
You’re in Italy? How are you doing?
Wishing death on Americans isn’t that big of a deal, Covid19 has taken 100,000 we had double that amount of abortions in 1970. There were at least 600,000 abortions last year in the US alone.
Those are helpless and defenseless fetuses. Nothing is getting shutdown to protect them, it’s just their luck of the draw.
But we should be concerned about decision making adults?
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
;D ;D ;D What's wrong Vito, did your favorite pizzeria get shut down? Don't be so grumpy. I'll send you a can of olive oil and a picture of Frank Sinatra.
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
Lol... Loser
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
LOL limpwristed liberal phegget.
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I hope as best examples of lower life forms, tommygetsbonned and Obese Lezzy, get infected and end up choking on their own Republican, Nazi Fox bullshit.
This crap was predicted in March, if you listened to smart people. See you again at 200,000 dead Americans in October.
Losers!
Oh, and I urge all Trump followers to get out and mingle, as much as you can, cockroaches. The world definitely needs radical cleansing. God willing, this board will die too.
Alleluia
I like the creativity, but you're no better hoping for a cleansing than the people you came on here to berate.
Both sides need cleansing in truth.
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;D ;D ;D What's wrong Vito, did your favorite pizzeria get shut down? Don't be so grumpy. I'll send you a can of olive oil and a picture of Frank Sinatra.
He's Serbian, not Italian !.
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120,000 ÷ 3000 = ?
That's forty 9/11's in 3 months. No big deal. I know, the flu, the cold, etc.
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The president last night: “Testing is a double-edged sword, We’ve tested now 25 million people. It’s probably 20 million people more than anybody else. Germany’s done a lot. South Korea’s done a lot. Here’s the bad part, When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people. You’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please!’”
Hes right, the more people you test the more cases you have, most of those testing positive will recover with very little symptoms so why bother testing everyone and making it look worse.
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Hes right, the more people you test the more cases you have, most of those testing positive will recover with very little symptoms so why bother testing everyone and making it look worse.
What Trump, you and some others are not taking into account is that it is the percentage of positive tests which reveals if the virus is on the increase or not. Maybe for some folks, ignorance is bliss.
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I tested positive about 5 weeks and was asymptomatic.
I just tested again last week. I hope I’m negative.
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I tested positive about 5 weeks and was asymptomatic.
I just tested again last week. I hope I’m negative.
Yes, I hope you are negative too. You are like the Getbig test case (pun). If you continue to test negative, it should mean one of two things. Either the positives, were false positives or you've built up an immunity to the virus, which is great news, not only for you but for a lot of other folks. The CDC will probably want to take a look at your situation.
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Yes, I hope you are negative too. You are like the Getbig test case (pun). If you continue to test negative, it should mean one of two things. Either the positives, were false positives or you've built up an immunity to the virus, which is great news, not only for you but for a lot of other folks. The CDC will probably want to take a look at your situation.
Maybe I could be their test subject.
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Maybe I could be their test subject.
If so, hold out for some decent compensation.
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Take the mutual jerk off session to PM fellas
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What Trump, you and some others are not taking into account is that it is the percentage of positive tests which reveals if the virus is on the increase or not. Maybe for some folks, ignorance is bliss.
and maybe for some people they know the virus isnt a problem for people under 60 so they couldn't give a fuck how many people test positive
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What Trump, you and some others are not taking into account is that it is the percentage of positive tests which reveals if the virus is on the increase or not. Maybe for some folks, ignorance is bliss.
As more people are tested one would expect the rate of posituves to
A) increase
B) decrease
Think REAL HARD old man.
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how long more do you intend to stay 59?
another 4 years
And I will take my chances with the virus if I was 70, I would go to theatres, cinemas in a heartbeat, life is for living, who wants to spend a lifetime shielding and hiding behind a mask
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My 71 year old mother in law who has COPD, asthma, no immune system, GERD, a CHOL of 296, heart issues and lower extremity edema.......
recovered from the virus in 4-5 days with barely any symptoms other than weakness and aches.... so I think I'll take my chances.
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Hes right, the more people you test the more cases you have, most of those testing positive will recover with very little symptoms so why bother testing everyone and making it look worse.
contact tracing
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contact tracing
again, another tool to make the situation look worse than it is
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My 71 year old mother in law who has COPD, asthma, no immune system, GERD, a CHOL of 296, heart issues and lower extremity edema.......
recovered from the virus in 4-5 days with barely any symptoms other than weakness and aches.... so I think I'll take my chances.
COVID19 is dangerous and we all need to take the necessary precautions.
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COVID19 is dangerous and we all need to take the necessary precautions.
Stay home if you feel so scared.
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COVID19 is dangerous and we all need to take the necessary precautions.
take your gun with you if you dont feel safe
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My 71 year old mother in law who has COPD, asthma, no immune system, GERD, a CHOL of 296, heart issues and lower extremity edema.......
recovered from the virus in 4-5 days with barely any symptoms other than weakness and aches.... so I think I'll take my chances.
Hell yes! Buy that old lady a drink for me.
The virus is weak. The virus was always weak.
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Give us your money.
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My 71 year old mother in law who has COPD, asthma, no immune system, GERD, a CHOL of 296, heart issues and lower extremity edema.......
recovered from the virus in 4-5 days with barely any symptoms other than weakness and aches.... so I think I'll take my chances.
2 points I have pointed out previously in this thread
1. There is a good chance of having some cross immunity from a previous coronavirus infections (one of the viruses responsible for the common cold) The older you are the more likely you are to have had it.
2. As a group the elderly have almost as many asymptomatic cases as teenagers.
Taking those 2 points into consideration it's not surprising your mum in law barely any symptoms, but that doesn't mean it will be the same story for everyone. Also be aware that testing is inaccurate as fuck, so you can't trust that she really did have it.
Stay safe getbig heroes.
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As more people are tested one would expect the rate of posituves to
A) increase
B) decrease
Think REAL HARD old man.
Unlike your response, I will explain this to you sans any snide or personal remarks.
This doesn't require a lot of brain power. The rate of positives would increase. But, this is not an accurate measure of what's happening with the virus.
It is the percentage of people testing positive that determines if the virus is on the rise or not. As an example, if you test 100 people and 25 test positive and later you test 1000 people and 250 test positive the percentage of positives remains the same at 25% and one could conclude the spread of virus is flat. However, if you test 100 people and 25 test positive and later test 1000 and 500 are positive the spread of the virus is increasing.
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2 points I have pointed out previously in this thread
1. There is a good chance of having some cross immunity from a previous coronavirus infections (one of the viruses responsible for the common cold) The older you are the more likely you are to have had it.
2. As a group the elderly have almost as many asymptomatic cases as teenagers.
Taking those 2 points into consideration it's not surprising your mum in law barely any symptoms, but that doesn't mean it will be the same story for everyone. Also be aware that testing is inaccurate as fuck, so you can't trust that she really did have it.
Stay safe getbig heroes.
Interesting theory. While I don't remember ever having the flu, I constantly had colds growing up and several bouts of bronchial pneumonia. I don't get a flu shot each year but I do get a pneumonia shot.
Why do you suppose so many elderly are dying from COVID-19 if they are more likely to have some immunity?
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UTAH MAY SHUT DOWN.
Health officials are urging Gov. Gary Herbert to return coronavirus restrictions to the “orange” level statewide if Utah does not get down to an average 200 new cases per day by July 1.
“We are quickly getting to a point where the only viable option to manage spread and deaths will be a complete shutdown,” warns a memo that Dr. Angela Dunn, the state epidemiologist, distributed Friday to state and local health officials.
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Interesting theory. While I don't remember ever having the flu, I constantly had colds growing up and several bouts of bronchial pneumonia. I don't get a flu shot each year but I do get a pneumonia shot.
Why do you suppose so many elderly are dying from COVID-19 if they are more likely to have some immunity?
At a guess the type of immunity retained is more like a memory of a encountering a similar virus and not the actual presence of antibodies, so the body remembers how to fight it off and sends the right type snipers into action. However the immune system still needs to be up for the fight and needs to kill of the virus before it can take hold.
Diabetes actually looks to be the main factor right now for bad outcomes and they are starting to think of it more as a blood/inflammatory disease and not a respiratory one. There also appears to be a worse outcome for those who have type A blood which has not been fully understood yet.
My own personal opinion is that it is actually a virus primarily effecting the gut. If it can not be eliminated there it soon start effecting other areas of the body and that's when the body starts going potato.
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UTAH MAY SHUT DOWN.
Health officials are urging Gov. Gary Herbert to return coronavirus restrictions to the “orange” level statewide if Utah does not get down to an average 200 new cases per day by July 1.
“We are quickly getting to a point where the only viable option to manage spread and deaths will be a complete shutdown,” warns a memo that Dr. Angela Dunn, the state epidemiologist, distributed Friday to state and local health officials.
I fear this may happen in Oregon. Since cautiously opening the state at phase I, the number of new COVID-19 has increased. Some areas are even higher then they were pre-shutdown. Just got word that the annual Labor Day picnic at Oaks Park in Portland is cancelled because governor Brown has disallowed it since it draws a large crowd...more that the 250 max for outdoor events. Bars, restaurants and other indoor venues are limited to 25.
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total death in UK hospitals up until 17th June is 1350 people who didnt have a pre existing condition
That my friends is how dangerous this virus is to healthy people
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I fear this may happen in Oregon. Since cautiously opening the state at phase I, the number of new COVID-19 has increased. Some areas are even higher then they were pre-shutdown. Just got word that the annual Labor Day picnic at Oaks Park in Portland is cancelled because governor Brown has disallowed it since it draws a large crowd...more that the 250 max for outdoor events. Bars, restaurants and other indoor venues are limited to 25.
The shut down was not so much to prevent people from getting the virus but rather to slow it down, flatten the curve, so that the hospitals won't be overwhelmed. So, in theory, just as many people will get sick but it will be spread out more and take longer to shake. So, yes, more people will be getting the virus as we open up but the hospitals can handle it.
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People still give a shit about this joke of a “pandemic”?
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People still give a shit about this joke of a “pandemic”?
There's still some paranoid retards out there.
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The shut down was not so much to prevent people from getting the virus but rather to slow it down, flatten the curve, so that the hospitals won't be overwhelmed. So, in theory, just as many people will get sick but it will be spread out more and take longer to shake. So, yes, more people will be getting the virus as we open up but the hospitals can handle it.
It's that simple .
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The shut down was not so much to prevent people from getting the virus but rather to slow it down, flatten the curve, so that the hospitals won't be overwhelmed. So, in theory, just as many people will get sick but it will be spread out more and take longer to shake. So, yes, more people will be getting the virus as we open up but the hospitals can handle it.
Maybe this is true where you are, but according to the Sunday Oregonian, some of Oregon's hospitals are already feeling the increase in cases needing to be hospitalized. This is specially true for the smaller private hospitals. Apparently, people are being transferred to OHSU which is Oregon's biggest hospital. However, it no doubt would have been even worse had their been no shutdown.
Since we are opening in phases and most of the state is in phase I still, things are hardly back to normal. Not sure how a restaurant or bar survives when they have to limit capacity to 25 people and less depending on space for social distancing. A local restaurant that's been doing high-end take out throughout the shutdown is open for dine in customers of which they can seat about 9 unless the weather's nice and people can sit outside. They are back to having a jazz group play on weekend nights, which is something no other restaurant in West Linn does.
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Saggy, relocate to Cuba or Venezuela & be 'el capitalista Yanki'
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Saggy, relocate to Cuba or Venezuela & be 'el capitalista Yanki'
I'll look into it. Thanks.
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So does the fact that GetBig has left this thread alone for over a week mean 'we' think it's all over...?
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Maybe it means there are too many Corona threads already, and chicken littles keep on creating new ones.
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So does the fact that GetBig has left this thread alone for over a week mean 'we' think it's all over...?
It's far from being over. Globally we're about 25% the way through it.
But it's nothing that can't be navigated with some common sense.
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This shit was over the minute BLM protests starting happening and COVID magically vanished. My city went from mandatory masks to now not giving a shit if you wear one or not. The key metric is the mortality rate which continues dwindling by the day. Couple that with WHO flip flopping on asymptomatic people not being able to spread the virus, we’ve been duped
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This shit was over the minute BLM protests starting happening and COVID magically vanished. My city went from mandatory masks to now not giving a shit if you wear one or not. The key metric is the mortality rate which continues dwindling by the day. Couple that with WHO flip flopping on asymptomatic people not being able to spread the virus, we’ve been duped
The latest is that most people with the virus, asymptomatic or not, likely won't spread it. Only a so called "superspreader" will spread it to a lot of people.
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It's that simple .
Simple is relative.
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Corrupt, lying SOBs
The WHO changed its coronavirus timeline to say it got its first report about the virus on the internet, not from Chinese authorities
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The World Health Organization changed its coronavirus timeline to say it first heard about the coronavirus from a press release online, rather than a report from Chinese authorities.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/changed-coronavirus-timeline-got-first-110340600.html
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People dead from Coronischka in Scandinavia
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3, 2, 4, 1.
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People dead from Coronischka in Scandinavia
No Valhalla for those suckers !.
Vikings die fighting or no Valhalla !.
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Corrupt, lying SOBs
The WHO changed its coronavirus timeline to say it got its first report about the virus on the internet, not from Chinese authorities
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Reminder, 'gib/Vince G. predictect months ago how Tedros head will roll :D
Last week Merkel rewarded WHO with 500 000 000 euros ..............
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Broadway actor Nick Cordero wakes from coma
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52645276
A Broadway actor who had his right leg amputated while fighting Covid-19 has woken up from a medically induced coma, his wife has revealed.
The 41-year old Canadian actor, who was nominated for a Tony Award for the Bullets Over Broadway musical, has been in hospital in Los Angeles since the end of March.
RIP
Broadway Star Nick Cordero Dead at 41 After COVID-19 Battle
Nick Cordero -- a veteran leading man on Broadway -- has died after a long battle with COVID-19 -- this according to his wife, Amanda Kloots.
First word of Cordero's passing came Sunday when Sony music exec Tony Mottola tweeted ... "NICK CORDERO..REST in PEACE our dear brother!!!" He added, "lead actor and star of “A BRONX TALE MUSICAL”..beautiful sweet man.. amazing talented actor and singer...loving family man ..we pray for you and your family .. @amandakloots."
Tommy finished his thoughts by saying, "..no more pain ..no more sufferin…" Nick's wife, confirmed the news herself on Instagram, writing a lengthy tribute to her husband.
Amanda writes, "God has another angel in heaven now. My darling husband passed away this morning. He was surrounded in love by his family, singing and praying as he gently left this earth."
She continued, "I am in disbelief and hurting everywhere. My heart is broken as I cannot imagine our lives without him. Nick was such a bright light. He was everyone’s friend, loved to listen, help and especially talk. He was an incredible actor and musician. He loved his family and loved being a father and husband. Elvis and I will miss him in everything we do, everyday." Amanda went on to thank Nick's team of doctors as well as his supporters who poured in love and well-wishes during his lengthy battle.
Amanda had publicly shared updates while her husband was fighting for his life ever since contracting the virus in March.
Nick was initially hospitalized thinking he had pneumonia, which was later found to be COVID-19. Since being admitted, he's had several complications with his treatment, including septic shock, lung infections and a leg amputation.
Most recently, he had a procedure done to remove a pace maker, and Amanda said Nick might even need a double lung transplant down the road.
Prior to his diagnosis, Nick was an absolute stud on the big stage, having starred in several big shows like "Bullets Over Broadway," for which he got a Tony Award nomination in 2014. He was also in "Waitress," "Rock of Ages," and the musical version of "A Bronx Tale," which earned more nominations and accolades.
Nick also had some on-screen credits, notably playing a cop in the CBS crime drama "Blue Bloods."
He's survived by Amanda and their one-year-old son, Elvis. Nick was 41.
RIP
https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/05/broadway-star-nick-cordero-dead-dies-age-41-covid-19-coronavirus-battle/?fbclid=IwAR3XX82i2piA2JE5csLFtxdKnLEIZ3LUrIBO4sWN_NVgzEdsxsgwzqLHb0g
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Long battle with Covid-19. ::) How long, 2 weeks?
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Loans Intended For Small Businesses To Retain Workers Were Hijacked By Large Corporations And The Rich
The Paycheck Protection Program, part of the multitrillion dollar government stimulus package, was primarily intended to help small businesses retain workers. The loosely managed and poorly regulated process was perverted and hijacked by thousands of companies that gamed the system. Through technicalities and loopholes in the program, the sloppy roll out was marred by too-little oversight and the allowance of large corporations, hedge funds, money managers, law firms and fast food chains to receive millions of dollars in forgivable loans.
The concept of PPP was laudable. In the teeth of the Covid-19 pandemic, small businesses that were deemed nonessential were ordered to cease operations. This placed thousands of small and midsized companies in a perilous position. With the sudden shocking lack of customers plummeting revenue, evaporating profits and still bills to pay, many small businesses faced financial ruin.
The federal government previously offered enhanced unemployment benefits to workers that lost their jobs due, in large part, to the economic effects of the virus outbreak. In an effort to both keep the doors of small businesses open and as an enticement to retain workers and keep them employed, the PPP was put into effect. Companies were offered the opportunity to apply for a forgivable loan. There wasn’t a lot of red tape and the major requirement was a promise to retain employees for a specified time period.
Unfortunately, the lion’s share of the funds went to companies that didn’t fit into this profile. The program was rushed out and handed off to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to manage the process and oversight. Mnuchin then passed it over to the banks. They became in charge of the review, approvals and underwriting the loans.
There were angry complaints, especially during the initial rollout of the program, that the intended recipients—small and midsize businesses—were shut out. Within days, the initial funds were sucked up by large organizations. These corporations boasted sharp lawyers, accountants, political ties and already held close relationships with banks. They easily cut to the front of the line. Facing pressure and public embarrassment, a number of organizations said that they’d return the funds.
A second phase of PPP was enacted. Once again, heated complaints of cronyism arose. This placed pressure on the Trump administration to reveal which companies received loans from the $660 billion program intended to keep small businesses afloat.
According to the Washington Post, “Among the loan recipients, 48,922 reported zero as the number of jobs they would retain with the money, and 40,506 applicants appeared to leave that section blank. It appeared that 10 other companies received between $5 million and $10 million, but reported retaining only one job with the money they received.”
Without the PPP loans, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits would have substantially increased. In light of the resurgence of Covid-19 cases, calls for reclosing businesses and a still weakened economy with little demand from consumers, many of the companies that accepted loans will lay off workers as soon as their restrictions are lifted.
There is another beneficiary of the loan program. Banks stand to see a windfall of billions of dollars in fees paid directly by the Small Business Administration. The top 10 bank lenders, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence, will receive about $3.8 billion.
Here are some of the not-so-small companies that received money from the PPP:
Billionaire Kanye West's Yeezy brand borrowed between $2 million and $5 million. There’s no word yet if this money will go toward his newly announced run to become the President of America.
A major law firm with ties to President Trump, Kasowitz Benson Torres, received a loan for between $5 million and $10 million.
$350,000 to about $1 million was given to Esplanade Livingston, a Jared Kushner family entity. Kushner previously divested his stake in the entity.
A real estate entity owned by various members of the Kushner family, Princeton Forrestal, received a loan of between $1 million and $2 million.
The uber-powerful and successful law firm, Boies Schiller Flexner, received between $5 million and $10 million.
United States Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao’s family’s business, Foremost Maritime, received $350,000 and $1 million. Elaine Chao is married to Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Trucking company Perdue, cofounded by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, got roughly $150,000 to $350,000 in loans.
Restaurant chains P.F. Chang’s, China Bistro and Chop’t received between $5 million and $10 million.
Private equity-backed TGI Fridays realized at least $5 million.
The Archdiocese of New York received between $5 million and $10 million. The Catholic Charities of the Archdioceses of San Francisco, Washington, D.C., New Orleans and Boston all received loans valued at over $2 million.
Ironically, self-reliant, libertarian-oriented the Ayn Rand Institute got $350,000 to $1 million.
Joseph Kushner Hebrew Academy in New Jersey received a loan of about $1 million to $2 million. The academy is named after President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner’s grandfather.
Alamo Drafthouse received a loan of about $5 million.
News organizations such as the Washington Times got at least $1 million, the Washingtonian $350,000, the Daily Caller received about $350,000 and the American Prospect received at least $150,000.
Political organizations, including the Ohio Democratic Party, got at least $150,000 and the Florida Democratic Party Building Fund received at least $350,000.
The National Republican Club of New York realized at least $350,000 and the Black Republican Caucus in Florida recognized at least $150,000.
Members of Congress received loans too. Republican Representative Kevin Hern of Oklahoma, who owns KTAK Corporation, received between $1 million and $2 million. Republican representative Mike Kelly from Pennsylvania received a loan for his car dealerships.
Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, received a loan.
Republican West Virginia Governor and billionaire Jim Justice received between $11 and $24 million for his portfolio of companies.
The list is much longer, but I don’t want to raise your blood pressure higher.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/07/07/loans-intended-for-small-businesses-to-retain-workers-were-hijacked-by-large-corporations-and-the-rich/#335d3b0b316d
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Long battle with Covid-19. ::) How long, 2 weeks?
Try over 3 months dealing with the complications it brought on.
Since being admitted, he's had several complications with his treatment, including septic shock, lung infections and a leg amputation.
Most recently, he had a procedure done to remove a pace maker, and Amanda said Nick might even need a double lung transplant down the road.
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Try over 3 months dealing with the complications it brought on.
Since being admitted, he's had several complications with his treatment, including septic shock, lung infections and a leg amputation.
Most recently, he had a procedure done to remove a pace maker, and Amanda said Nick might even need a double lung transplant down the road.
The poor guy really suffered. And here we have ignorant idiots down playing this virus. It’s unbelievable. I see some real dumb fucks on this forum. Not you flex.... you’re actually one of the smartest and I enjoy your posts.
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The poor guy really suffered. And here we have ignorant idiots down playing this virus. It’s unbelievable. I see some real dumb fucks on this forum. Not you flex.... you’re actually one of the smartest and I enjoy your posts.
For people near death it's a terrible virus. You need to actually do your research and you will see who really is ignorant and it will be the person you look at in the mirror.
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Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is ‘very rare,’ WHO says
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/science/how-coronavirus-spreads.html
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Try over 3 months dealing with the complications it brought on.
Since being admitted, he's had several complications with his treatment, including septic shock, lung infections and a leg amputation.
Most recently, he had a procedure done to remove a pace maker, and Amanda said Nick might even need a double lung transplant down the road.
Read between the lines. The guy recently had a pacemaker removed. He obviously had a prior heart condition and who knows what else. But once you get a positive test result no matter it’s corona.
That Booty a.k.a. Karen agrees with you should give you pause.
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Long battle with Covid-19. ::) How long, 2 weeks?
For me it was total for 4 weeks.
1st week: Fever, body/headaches, disorientation, and night sweats...
2nd week: Fever was gone, but still had body aches. Weak as hell. Hard coughing with the headache felt like my head was going to explode.
3rd week: Body aches gone, but still coughing.
4th week: Some weakness, but I could function normally.
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For me it was total for 4 weeks.
1st week: Fever, body/headaches, disorientation, and night sweats...
2nd week: Fever was gone, but still had body aches. Weak as hell. Hard coughing with the headache felt like my head was going to explode.
3rd week: Body aches gone, but still coughing.
4th week: I was fine.
Why do they only quarantine you for 2 weeks?
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Why do they only quarantine you for 2 weeks?
Have no idea. I stayed home the whole time. I would never go to a hospital unless it was absolutely necessary. During the 2nd week I increased my Vit C and zinc intake dramatically, I believe that helped me a lot.
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The positive is that people will learn to cook and relax.
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The positive is that people will learn to cook and relax.
Bro.
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My alpha immune system forbade me from having symptoms, despite being diagnosed positive.
That’s how alphas roll.
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My alpha immune system forbade me from having symptoms, despite being diagnosed positive.
That’s how alphas roll.
Are you sure that test wasn't for HIV?
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Read between the lines. The guy recently had a pacemaker removed. He obviously had a prior heart condition and who knows what else. But once you get a positive test result no matter it’s corona.
That Booty a.k.a. Karen agrees with you should give you pause.
The pacemaker (a temporary one) was fitted in the hospital as part of his post covid recovery and then it needed removing.
And what exactly is booty agreeing with me on? I offered no statement, I only corrected an inaccurate assumption with an actual fact. Maybe it's you that needs to give pause...
Also stop trying to read between the lines. You're not very good at it ;D
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My alpha immune system forbade me from having symptoms, despite being diagnosed positive.
That’s how alphas roll.
In the healthy the virus tends to affect people with higher test levels more. Just saying..
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For me it was total for 4 weeks.
1st week: Fever, body/headaches, disorientation, and night sweats...
2nd week: Fever was gone, but still had body aches. Weak as hell. Hard coughing with the headache felt like my head was going to explode.
3rd week: Body aches gone, but still coughing.
4th week: Some weakness, but I could function normally.
I travel all over for work. In Nov/Dec I was in Hong Kong and Singapore, and then all of Jan and Feb I was either flying west coast to east coast weekly with a few trips to London mixed in. end of Feb I got so fucking sick. Same symptoms you described. I called my doctor to see if I can get tested for Corona. They said they aren't doing tests and to just come into the doctor. The doctor could hear wheezing from my chest and said I probably have acid reflux. ACID FUCKING REFLUX??? Are you kidding me. They knew fuck all about Corona. a few weeks passed and I felt a lot better, then my son had the same thing happen to him. Again, thought it was a shitty flu. Looking back we both now know that we had this COVID wayyyy back before it became a thing in the USA.
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I travel all over for work. In Nov/Dec I was in Hong Kong and Singapore, and then all of Jan and Feb I was either flying west coast to east coast weekly with a few trips to London mixed in. end of Feb I got so fucking sick. Same symptoms you described. I called my doctor to see if I can get tested for Corona. They said they aren't doing tests and to just come into the doctor. The doctor could hear wheezing from my chest and said I probably have acid reflux. ACID FUCKING REFLUX??? Are you kidding me. They knew fuck all about Corona. a few weeks passed and I felt a lot better, then my son had the same thing happen to him. Again, thought it was a shitty flu. Looking back we both now know that we had this COVID wayyyy back before it became a thing in the USA.
I think what we have just had in the UK was our second wave, I think the first wave was late December early January, many people had the same symptoms back then but it was before the virus was being taken seriously or tested for.
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I travel all over for work. In Nov/Dec I was in Hong Kong and Singapore, and then all of Jan and Feb I was either flying west coast to east coast weekly with a few trips to London mixed in. end of Feb I got so fucking sick. Same symptoms you described. I called my doctor to see if I can get tested for Corona. They said they aren't doing tests and to just come into the doctor. The doctor could hear wheezing from my chest and said I probably have acid reflux. ACID FUCKING REFLUX??? Are you kidding me. They knew fuck all about Corona. a few weeks passed and I felt a lot better, then my son had the same thing happen to him. Again, thought it was a shitty flu. Looking back we both now know that we had this COVID wayyyy back before it became a thing in the USA.
You probably got it in London. Most of spread amongst the working population in London seems to have happened in Feb.
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Gay model who posed for the making of superman statue will be fine if he gets the rona. Fatty posing next to it....not so much.
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The pacemaker (a temporary one) was fitted in the hospital as part of his post covid recovery and then it needed removing.
And what exactly is booty agreeing with me on? I offered no statement, I only corrected an inaccurate assumption with an actual fact. Maybe it's you that needs to give pause...
Also stop trying to read between the lines. You're not very good at it ;D
It’s kinda dumb to tell people to do things when you’re not going to do anything if they don’t.
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I travel all over for work. In Nov/Dec I was in Hong Kong and Singapore, and then all of Jan and Feb I was either flying west coast to east coast weekly with a few trips to London mixed in. end of Feb I got so fucking sick. Same symptoms you described. I called my doctor to see if I can get tested for Corona. They said they aren't doing tests and to just come into the doctor. The doctor could hear wheezing from my chest and said I probably have acid reflux. ACID FUCKING REFLUX??? Are you kidding me. They knew fuck all about Corona. a few weeks passed and I felt a lot better, then my son had the same thing happen to him. Again, thought it was a shitty flu. Looking back we both now know that we had this COVID wayyyy back before it became a thing in the USA.
but do you really know?
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I know someone who had COVID-19 and was tested for it because his brother had it. Both had zero symptoms, though his girlfriend also had it and experienced mild flu-like symptoms and fully recovered.
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My alpha immune system forbade me from having symptoms, despite being diagnosed positive.
That’s how alphas roll.
Bullshit, real Alphas don't get China flu & scream about shitty $ 1200.
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LOL @ this american...
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I have questions! I live in the United States.
I have been following Sweden for months now.
It appears your numbers ~ infection, those in the hospital and deaths are seeing a big decline.
Here in the U.S, ours are increasing! We did three months of intense lockdown and trashed our economy just to be worse off by Covid right now.
My friends here thought I was literally a "killer" by even following and posting about the Swedish approach.
What is the U.S. doing wrong? Its now a literal law that we wear masks when in public. Do you wear masks?
Reports here indicate the most dangerous place to go is a bar or inside a restaurant.
We have to wear masks there too! Do you agree that spread of this is most prominent in bars and restaurants? Do you go to bars or restaurants? Some states here are completely closing them once again. Lastly, the debate over opening schools this fall is getting very heated.
What has been the Swedish approach to kids going to school?
What can we in the U.S. learn from your approach. Should kids go back to classrooms this Fall? I have lost more friends to suicide in the last week due to depression than Covid. Drug use is way up here and our economic outlook is quite grim.
Thanks for your thoughts here. And as always, Go Sweden!
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LOL @ this american...
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I have questions! I live in the United States.
I have been following Sweden for months now.
It appears your numbers ~ infection, those in the hospital and deaths are seeing a big decline.
Here in the U.S, ours are increasing! We did three months of intense lockdown and trashed our economy just to be worse off by Covid right now.
My friends here thought I was literally a "killer" by even following and posting about the Swedish approach.
What is the U.S. doing wrong? Its now a literal law that we wear masks when in public. Do you wear masks?
Reports here indicate the most dangerous place to go is a bar or inside a restaurant.
We have to wear masks there too! Do you agree that spread of this is most prominent in bars and restaurants? Do you go to bars or restaurants? Some states here are completely closing them once again. Lastly, the debate over opening schools this fall is getting very heated.
What has been the Swedish approach to kids going to school?
What can we in the U.S. learn from your approach. Should kids go back to classrooms this Fall? I have lost more friends to suicide in the last week due to depression than Covid. Drug use is way up here and our economic outlook is quite grim.
Thanks for your thoughts here. And as always, Go Sweden!
That guy is doing the right thing.
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Parts of New York are close or have herd immunity. Apparently it's a stunning result ::)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/09/scientists-hail-stunning-results-show-areas-new-york-may-have/
Not like this stuff couldn't be figured out months ago. Scientists of piss
Remember tests in Iceland have shown half the people testing positive are asymptomatic and contact tracing can only really start from a symptomatic person. So plenty of cases will be missing from Korean numbers.
There has been plenty of literature about the asymptomatic and how infections via asymptomatic patients are very rare. The WHO have it at 3% or less.
If Asymptomatic cases are indeed 50% of all infections then places like Northern Italy, Madrid, New York and maybe London have or are close to reaching the required number of infections for herd immunity. The timeline just needs to play out now.
As a ballpark figure a city with a population of 10million which doesn't exceed surge capacity will approximately have 5K deaths on its way to achieving herd immunity. Could be 4 times that for somewhere like New York which is under prepared.
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That guy is doing the right thing.
In what alternate universe? I need to avoid it, haha.
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Bullshit, real Alphas don't get China flu & scream about shitty $ 1200.
$1200 gets you a nice set of 50 pound weights these days , so don't knock it!
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People still give a shit about this joke of a “pandemic”?
As usual, Getbiggers have high standards.
Not a real pandemic unless it can wipe out 50 percent of the population.
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HAHAHAHAH. COVID19.
Pure comedy. Saddest weakest virus ever. Nothing but piss water.
Never wear your mask. Never.
Cowards.
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HAHAHAHAH. COVID19.
Pure comedy. Saddest weakest virus ever. Nothing but piss water.
Never wear your mask. Never.
Cowards.
You sound like a man who is overcompensating.
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HAHAHAHAH. COVID19.
Pure comedy. Saddest weakest virus ever. Nothing but piss water.
Never wear your mask. Never.
Cowards.
The figures don't make a lot of sense for sure.
China / WHO / CDC have a lot to answer for with their lies & deceptions
It appears because of Them Countries over reacted massively.
Isolating The old & Weak yes - Closing down economies & locking 90+% of the population
Who were never going to be remotely affected, Totally Wrong.
And it became apparent very quickly who it was targeting & affecting.
A man manipulated virus From Wuhan China to Target their Old & Weak as it’s a Massive
Financial burden on them - FFS the Chinks don’t care about there own people’s let alone
People in other countries.
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Parts of New York are close or have herd immunity. Apparently it's a stunning result ::)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/09/scientists-hail-stunning-results-show-areas-new-york-may-have/
Not like this stuff couldn't be figured out months ago. Scientists of piss
These "scientists" have been wrong about everything. These scientists are like the Popes,Cardinals and Bishops of the Middle Ages. They are the authorities that can't be questioned.
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These "scientists" have been wrong about everything. These scientists are like the Popes,Cardinals and Bishops of the Middle Ages. They are the authorities that can't be questioned.
X2. Well stated.
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Norway released this.
You can travel to Green countries.
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Norway released this.
You can travel to Green countries.
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So why Norg's can't travel to Portugal, Croatia or Hungary ???. No muslims in those countries or ........................ ......
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You sound like a man who is overcompensating.
No sir. I use dumbells too, but I do prefer the EZ curl bar.
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No sir. I use dumbells too, but I do prefer the EZ curl bar.
It's great you want to carry on as close to normal as possible, we all should, but dismissing the virus completely is like cutting of your nose to spite your face.
The virus is only weak if you're infected with a small dose and that's the cases for the majority of infections, but catch a big dose and chances are you'll likely be dealing with complications for the rest of your life.
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It's great you want to carry on as close to normal as possible, we all should, but dismissing the virus completely is like cutting of your nose to spite your face.
The virus is only weak if you're infected with a small dose and that's the cases for the majority of infections, but catch a big dose and chances are you'll likely be dealing with complications for the rest of your life.
It's all or nothing for Getbiggers.
Middle grounds are for pussies.
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It's all or nothing for Getbiggers.
Middle grounds are for pussies.
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Norwegian and British Scientists: "Coronavirus made in Lab" (https://www.exakt24.se/norska-och-brittiska-forskare-coronaviruset-skapat-i-labb)
Controversial Claim (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/06/07/controversial-coronavirus-lab-origin-claims-dismissed-by-experts/)
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91yo man died in Australia , killed by China virus ::)
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91yo man died in Australia , killed by China virus ::)
A man in his 60’s also died. That’s around the age of many getbiggers
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A possible game changer to tackle and prevent coronavirus with a nasal spray solution that has an ingredient that’s found in commonly used Xclear, which alleviates congestion.
“The nasal spray is available in the market. It has been in the market for about 20 years," Ferrer said. "My group and I have done research on it, and it shows that it is helping people with chronic virus sinus issues."
Ferrer and researchers in Utah and Geneva have completed successful in vitro testing to combat COVID-19.
Now, the results from those clinical trials are being sent to the FDA for approval.
“Our hope that with the research is it will prove that it’s safe and effective," Ferrer said. "It actually decreases the symptoms as we have observed in a small controlled group of patients of people that we have tested.”
https://cbs12.com/news/local/south-florida-researcher-works-to-clear-icu-beds-nasal-spray-treatment-for-covid-19
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A possible game changer to tackle and prevent coronavirus with a nasal spray solution that has an ingredient that’s found in commonly used Xclear, which alleviates congestion.
“The nasal spray is available in the market. It has been in the market for about 20 years," Ferrer said. "My group and I have done research on it, and it shows that it is helping people with chronic virus sinus issues."
Ferrer and researchers in Utah and Geneva have completed successful in vitro testing to combat COVID-19.
Now, the results from those clinical trials are being sent to the FDA for approval.
“Our hope that with the research is it will prove that it’s safe and effective," Ferrer said. "It actually decreases the symptoms as we have observed in a small controlled group of patients of people that we have tested.”
https://cbs12.com/news/local/south-florida-researcher-works-to-clear-icu-beds-nasal-spray-treatment-for-covid-19
Bro..
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Republicans Want to Kill the $600 Weekly Bonus for Unemployed Workers
WASHINGTON — When Congress gets back from its extended Fourth of July break, it will be careening towards an economic cliff — and Republicans don’t seem eager to hit the brakes.
Senate Republicans have refused to work seriously on the next round of legislation to deal with the ongoing economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic, insisting on waiting until they return on July 20 before negotiating the next COVID spending package.
That leaves Congress just days to negotiate another potentially massive spending package before some major programs run out. That includes the $600 per week in additional unemployment insurance that has helped keep millions of unemployed people out of poverty during the pandemic. It also leaves in limbo bailouts to state and local governments who have had gaping holes ripped in their budgets by the ongoing recession.
Many Republicans oppose the package in its current form because it pays out more money to some people than they were making in their jobs.
But some have signaled they’re onboard with a few aspects of Democrats’ HEROES Act, a massive $3 trillion proposal for the next round of coronavirus response that the House passed weeks ago. Republicans agree the federal government should boost funds for medical research, are open to some form of support for struggling state and local governments, and some have floated more direct payments to Americans to weather the economic crisis. But they also want liability protection to make it harder for people to sue businesses and individuals if they contract coronavirus.
“We have a lot of important features that all come to an end in July,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, the White House’s point man on coronavirus negotiations, said during House testimony last Tuesday.
Lawmakers in both parties are operating on the assumption that they’ll pass something — it’d be a political and economic disaster for all involved if they don’t. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said last week that he planned to wrap up the legislation before Congress heads out again on its annual August recess. But what Republicans are willing to actually pass remains a mystery.
Will Republicans end the $600-a-week unemployment benefit?
Senate Republicans have made it clear they have no plans to back a full renewal of the $600 per month across-the-board boost in unemployment, arguing that it’s slowing economic recovery by disincentivizing people from returning to work.
“Unemployment is extremely important and we need to make sure for those who are not able to recover their jobs, unemployment is adequate. That is a different issue from whether we ought to be able to pay people a bonus not to go back to work,” McConnell said Tuesday. “So I think that was a mistake. And we’re hearing it all over the country, that it has made it harder actually to get people back to work. But to have the base protections of unemployment insurance is extremely important and should be continued.”
McConnell didn’t make clear whether he backed some alternate or smaller federal boost to unemployment, or just wanted state unemployment insurance programs to handle it themselves. It remains unclear at this point what if any unemployment benefit expansion Republicans would be willing to accept — or whether the GOP conference can get on the same page on an actual plan to solve the issue rather than just junk the program.
The real-world consequences of Republicans refusing to continue the expanded unemployment could be severe. While the unemployment rate dropped to 11.1% as of mid-June, down from a high of 14.7% in mid-April, it’s still sky-high by normal standards, and could tick higher as states are forced to lock down their economies to respond to spiking coronavirus cases.
Fully 30 million people have been receiving at least some unemployment insurance since the crisis began, and a Columbia University study found the original pandemic unemployment assistance funds passed by Congress as part of the CARES Act in late March helped keep around 13 million people out of poverty as of April.
Zach Parolin, the study’s lead author, estimated that if those funds aren’t extended, depending on the exact economic conditions between 15 and 30 million more Americans will fall into poverty by the end of the year.
“If Congress does not extend these benefits, it’s safe to say that poverty rates will increase in the second half of the year.”
“If Congress does not extend these benefits, it’s safe to say that poverty rates will increase in the second half of the year, that individuals who lose their jobs in the second half of the year will struggle to pay the rent and put food on the table, and there’s a high possibility that entire families would go months with little to no support from the federal government,” he warned.
A study from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that five out of six people who receive the money stand to make more on unemployment, a major sticking point for Republicans who think the money is dissuading people from returning to work. But the GOP has yet to coalesce around an alternate plan — and it’s unclear they’ll be willing and able to do so in the rushed return in late July before the program expires at the end of the month.
States need cash badly
Funding for state and local governments is another crucial piece of the next package. Most government budgets began on July 1 and will need to be adjusted dramatically as states and cities deal with gaping holes in their estimated funding, and without a major assist from the federal government, that means massive looming layoffs in a sector of the economy that’s already started to feel the damage from budget gaps.
Roughly 1.5 million state and local employees have already been furloughed or laid off, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, double the number during the entirety of the Great Recession of 2008-2010. That number will spike dramatically if states and cities are forced to close the gaps in their budget created by coronavirus-created revenue shortfalls by firing people and cutting services. Unlike the federal government, they have to balance their budgets.
“Employees of state and local government, many of them, especially in health care sections risking their lives to save other people's lives. And now they may lose their jobs,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on Friday. “In the HEROES Act are the resources to keep state and local government running so you don't have to fire people so that they can continue services.”
A study from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a progressive think tank, found that most state and local governments will see revenue drops of 10% to 20% from the previous year due to the ongoing recession — an estimated $600 billion total shortfall over previous estimates over the next two and a half years. Most state and local government officials will revisit in the late summer and fall what they’ll have to do to fix these budget shortfalls. Without federal support, they’ll have to choose between draconian cuts and tax increases.
“Congress really needs to act quickly before states and local governments build in spending cuts that are going to lengthen the recession,” warned Elizabeth McNichol, the study’s lead author.
House Democrats’ bill had about $900 billion in state and local funds. But Republicans have raged against giving states that much would let Democrats in states that had budget crises even before the recession hit off the hook.
McConnell and other Republicans originally signaled they wouldn’t give any help to state and local governments. They’ve walked that back some but have continued to express a stingy attitude towards states. In late May, McConnell said there would be a “plug” of funding for state and local governments, but that he wouldn’t allow funding that would help states fix their “preexisting” budget problems.
How much Congress coughs up will matter a lot. In the last recession, the federal government covered about a quarter of state and local governments’ budget shortfalls, forcing governments to slash employment and funding for both K-12 and higher education. Some states still haven’t fully bounced back to pre-recession levels of education spending, and K-12 class sizes have grown and public university costs have risen by 20% to 30% in many states as a result.
Plenty of other issues remain unresolved as well. The Post Office desperately needs funding to keep operating. Current federal moratoriums on evictions are set to expire, which could cause a massive homelessness crisis. Democrats want expanded food stamp assistance to help keep people from going hungry. The House bill also included $4 billion to states to help them expand mail voting and other voting options so they can run smooth elections in November — a potential looming disaster that has already been foreshadowed by chaotic primaries in states like Wisconsin and Georgia.
But the expanded unemployment insurance and funds for state and local governments are the most crucial elements of the bill. And both remain in limbo as Congress takes its annual July holiday break.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pky338/republicans-want-to-kill-the-dollar600-weekly-bonus-for-unemployed-workers?utm_content=1594573207&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1pBDFDPlsaGy4TKLZj2EuVS2bn2PpqTzOtTYn-dsoZPWhuY_IOWO2MBpw
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NJ Transit capacity limits lifted, but face masks remain required to slow coronavirus spread, Murphy says
New Jersey Transit trains, buses and light rail may resume operating with full capacity starting Wednesday, though face coverings will remain required for all staff and passengers, Gov. Phil Murphy announced Monday.
The lifting of the 50% capacity limits will take effect at 8 p.m. on Wednesday. In addition to NJ Transit trains and buses, they include private-carrier buses, trains, light rail vehicles and Access Link vehicles.
“As we have undertaken our restart and recovery, and as more New Jerseyans begin getting back to their jobs, we are seeing increases in ridership which are beginning to approach 50% of the stated maximum capacity of these vehicles, and we want to ensure that people are able to get to their jobs and that the system continues operating as efficiently as possible,” Murphy told reporters at his coronavirus press conference in Trenton.
Murphy said riders will now need to wear face coverings at all NJ Transit and private-carrier indoor stations, as well as outdoor stations where social distancing “is not practicable.”
“Do it for yourself and do it for your fellow riders, do it for the men and women who are making your trip possible,” Murphy said. “Make sure your mask covers both your mouth and nose – no chin guards by the way. And, if a transit employee asks you mask up, they’re doing their jobs, please be respectful to them and your fellow passengers.”
Murphy said he does not anticipate a full rush of a return to max capacity at all hours.
“We anticipate at least at rush hour that will be a reality,” he said.
Once a coronavirus hotspot, New Jersey has seen its daily figures drop dramatically since peaking in April and remain relatively steady in recent weeks as cases surge in other states.
The rate of transmission has risen in recent days above the key figure of 1 — meaning, on average, every newly infected resident was passing COVID-19 to at least one other person. But the rate has fallen below that mark again. The latest rate reported Monday was .91.
With the rate rising last week, Murphy said the state was pumping the brakes on taking more steps in its gradual reopening from months of lockdown restrictions. Monday marked was the first time since May that a week did not begin with some sort of reopening in New Jersey.
The governor also announced this week New Jersey is now requiring people to wear masks outdoors in public when they can’t practice social distancing.
Meanwhile, the state is calling on people traveling from 19 states with rising cases to voluntarily self-quarantine for 14 days after arriving in New Jersey, including residents returning home.
More than 1.3 million New Jersey residents have filed for unemployment benefits as the pandemic continues to wreak havoc on the economy.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/07/nj-transit-capacity-limits-lifted-but-face-masks-remain-required-to-slow-coronavirus-spread-murphy-says.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&fbclid=IwAR1VGNdst7Wg7xhDNhWpCCR53rmbTMtFzISGgss0xXI0tmR8gnHooZIBZQI
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compulsory face masks in the UK to help flatten the curve of infections from 24th July
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https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-covid-will-be-back-big-numbers-october-november-2020-6
Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower
(https://i.insider.com/58c32763c1407785008b4899?width=900&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
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Gotta keep the scam going till after the election.
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Gotta keep the scam going till after the election.
we'll see about that in November.
Are you going to get out in front of all posters here and say you made a mistake, in December, and apologize?
No, I did not think so...
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https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-covid-will-be-back-big-numbers-october-november-2020-6
Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower
(https://i.insider.com/58c32763c1407785008b4899?width=900&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
So aside from computer wizard, he is also a medical scientist and epidemiologist?
Is there no limit to what this man can do?
"1"
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of course he's happy--he's rich and white
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we'll see about that in November.
Are you going to get out in front of all posters here and say you made a mistake, in December, and apologize?
No, I did not think so...
If Trump wins it won't stop but if Biden wins I guarantee it will disappear.
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If Trump wins it won't stop but if Biden wins I guarantee it will disappear.
I agree.....and it's not gonna disappear immediately because doing that will show their (or, (((their))) if you're one of those types) hand way to easily......so, if Biden wins this covid thing will SLOWLY become less of a thing....
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I agree.....and it's not gonna disappear immediately because doing that will show their (or, (((their))) if you're one of those types) hand way to easily......so, if Biden wins this covid thing will SLOWLY become less of a thing....
True, you will just see everything open back up and may even see articles about how it wasn't actually as bad as they thought.
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True, you will just see everything open back up and may even see articles about how it wasn't actually as bad as they thought.
we're still gonna have to eat 2021 even if biden wins
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So aside from computer wizard, he is also a medical scientist and epidemiologist?
Is there no limit to what this man can do?
"1"
He could never be a getbigger, too poor and weak.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-covid-will-be-back-big-numbers-october-november-2020-6
Bill Gates says COVID-19 'will be back in big numbers' in October-November when US temperatures turn lower
(https://i.insider.com/58c32763c1407785008b4899?width=900&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Dr. Bill Gates is a highly educated and esteemed virologist. He is an infectious disease specialist and we should respect his opinion on this subject
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I‘d like to see him choke on a vegan hot dog
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It's said Gates was a real ass*ole to work for.
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doing my batman-esque deductive reasoning, i take it that that meme of the old shirtless guy is that old queen who posts here
I just thinks it's amusing that despite all his word filled posts that he's a "zebra"
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doing my batman-esque deductive reasoning, i take it that that meme of the old shirtless guy is that old queen who posts here
I just thinks it's amusing that despite all his word filled posts that he's a "zebra"
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488614.0;attach=531262;image).
He devours the cocks of homeless black men, like a fat kid eating ice cream.
That senile old penis puffer works a gloryhole like Ron Avidan works a Chinese buffet
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It's said Gates was a real ass*ole to work for.
If you want to get anywhere you need to be.Musk, jobs, bezos are all the same.Fear drives people to work harder than they would without it.
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Gates is another sock puppet philanthropist gleefully joyous that the chance for absolute control is within reach.
Does Primed Anus wear anything besides a cock ring when posting on getbig?
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Gates is another sock puppet philanthropist gleefully joyous that the chance for absolute control is within reach.
Does Primed Anus wear anything besides a cock ring when posting on getbig?
Don't forget his buttplug!
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compulsory face masks in the UK to help flatten the curve of infections from 24th July
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The masks are to keep the curve flat and prevent a second wave, not for what you claim.
Also that's a made up graph. The data for England or the UK does not look like this.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSqbAqHfEkwBCclFIS_ODdCOrYHJFuHFC4CvA&usqp=CAU)
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Don't forget his buttplug!
Size XXXXXL...you could ice fish through that disgusting old phaggot’s sphincter
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of course he's happy--he's rich and white
And male.
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Don't forget his buttplug!
A full metal one, signed by Weider and hardened in Arnold's sweat.
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If Trump wins it won't stop but if Biden wins I guarantee it will disappear.
100% right. Me and my step sister were talking about this Sunday, how I’m almost ready to give into the children having tantrums and just not vote this time so Biden can win and everybody can shut the fuck up and go back to normal work/life.
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100% right. Me and my step sister were talking about this Sunday, how I’m almost ready to give into the children having tantrums and just not vote this time so Biden can win and everybody can shut the fuck up and go back to normal work/life.
I want to make two quick points:
(1) If Biden were to win you would have “The Squad” running America.
(2) Got any nude photos of your stepsister?
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The masks are to keep the curve flat and prevent a second wave, not for what you claim.
Also that's a made up graph. The data for England or the UK does not look like this.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSqbAqHfEkwBCclFIS_ODdCOrYHJFuHFC4CvA&usqp=CAU)
its not that far off
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-child-12-among-latest-22220335
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22220157.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_HEALTH-Coronavirus.jpg)
and how do you know what we just had wasnt the second wave?
There were a hell of a lot of people with covid symptoms in December and January in the UK that went undiagnosed
starting to wear masks now is like wearing a condom at a baby shower
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its not that far off
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-child-12-among-latest-22220335
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22220157.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_HEALTH-Coronavirus.jpg)
and how do you know what we just had wasnt the second wave?
There were a hell of a lot of people with covid symptoms in December and January in the UK that went undiagnosed
starting to wear masks now is like wearing a condom at a baby shower
That graph is for deaths in hospital, not total deaths in England/UK.
There was no wave of death pre March. It was just a slow spread and the deaths wouldn't have stood out amongst flu deaths. However the spread was exponential and that resulted in the dramatic peak in March/April. Also you might need to factor in the Asian version of the virus and the mutated European version which came later around Feb and possibly spreads faster.
Masks might be redundant in the UK as we aren't far off heard immunity, but they are taking no chances because they can't afford another lockdown this winter.
It's okay if you don't understand the science behind, as it seems a lot scientists themselves don't seem to understand fuck all either. Just put any shitty mask on in the shops and go about your business.
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That graph is for deaths in hospital, not total deaths in England/UK.
There was no wave of death pre March. It was just a slow spread and the deaths wouldn't have stood out amongst flu deaths. However the spread was exponential and that resulted in the dramatic peak in March/April. Also you might need to factor in the Asian version of the virus and the mutated European version which came later around Feb and possibly spreads faster.
Masks might be redundant in the UK as we aren't far off heard immunity, but they are taking no chances because they can't afford another lockdown this winter.
It's okay if you don't understand the science behind, as it seems a lot scientists themselves don't seem to understand fuck all either. Just put any shitty mask on in the shops and go about your business.
Really they’ve Taken chances all the way through this scam - Here’s a few points for you.
Then why 3mnths on is there a need for masks in shops only ?
They weren’t wearing masks on the London Underground & buses all the way through
And if Masks are so Good why they let some prisoners out early
Or we can’t go visit relatives in care homes if we wear a mask.
Far to many inconsistencies & double standards - it’s a Farce.
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Here we go again. Costco was packed with people stocking up for the next shutdown.
"Gov. Kate Brown is expanding Oregon’s statewide face mask policy, requiring that most Oregonians wear masks in outdoor situations when they cannot stay six feet from other people.
As the number of new COVID-19 infections continue to spike, the governor on Monday also announced a statewide limit of 10 people in indoor social gatherings. Those limits would not apply to businesses or worship services, the governor’s office said.
Both regulations take effect Wednesday.
“Today we are sounding the alarm because we are at risk of letting the virus spiral out of control,” Brown said in a press conference. “The question now is whether Oregon will be the next New York or the next Texas.”"
https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-coronavirus-covid-19-face-mask-rules/
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Really they’ve Taken chances all the way through this scam - Here’s a few points for you.
Then why 3mnths on is there a need for masks in shops only ?
They weren’t wearing masks on the London Underground & buses all the way through
And if Masks are so Good why they let some prisoners out early
Or we can’t go visit relatives in care homes if we wear a mask.
Far to many inconsistencies & double standards - it’s a Farce.
If you read between the lines you'd be able to figure out that they have been attempting to implement a controlled herd immunity strategy in the UK.
They let the virus peak to a safe level where it wouldn't overwhelm the NHS and then implemented lockdown. They then allowed controlled spread through air travel, public transport and supermarkets during lockdown.They allowed further controlled spread via opening up businesses, allowing protests and small gatherings.
We have reached a stage now where we have or are close to a level of herd immunity and where it won't require any more Countrywide lockdowns. However there are too many unknowns to be 100% certain of this. That's why they are implementing mask use in case the immunity strategy hasn't work.
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doing my batman-esque deductive reasoning, i take it that that meme of the old shirtless guy is that old queen who posts here
I just thinks it's amusing that despite all his word filled posts that he's a "zebra"
Zebra sometimes refers to people of mixed races. If you are speaking about me, I am a mix between white and white. Does this make me an albino Zebra?
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If you read between the lines you'd be able to figure out that they have been attempting to implement a controlled herd immunity strategy in the UK.
They let the virus peak to a safe level where it wouldn't overwhelm the NHS and then implemented lockdown. They then allowed controlled spread through air travel, public transport and supermarkets during lockdown.They allowed further controlled spread via opening up businesses, allowing protests and small gatherings.
We have reached a stage now where we have or are close to a level of herd immunity and where it won't require any more Countrywide lockdowns. However there are too many unknowns to be 100% certain of this, so they are implementing mask use in case the immunity strategy hasn't work.
That’s a ridiculous answer as to why masks are Supposedly needed only when only shopping.
The Holes in the Fucking Damn are everywhere & so Big That China could get through
Let alone the China Virus.
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That’s a ridiculous answer as to why masks are Supposedly needed only when only shopping.
The Holes in the Fucking Damn are everywhere & so Big That China could get through
Let alone the China Virus.
It's only ridiculous if you lack an understanding of basic scientific principles.
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It's only ridiculous if you lack an understanding of basic scientific principles.
Then you are most certainly lacking a lot.
Try harder to understand.
Common sense & scientific principles aren’t that Difficult for you are they.
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It's only ridiculous if you lack an understanding of basic scientific principles.
You Wear you’re mask & be scared of your own shadow if you want - Good for you if it works.
I’m looking at the Facts & Figures & the haphazard implementation of different things
& it is full of Contradictions & holes.
I’ll carry on Questioning & possibly disbelieving what’s said & done - That works for Me.
Very Clearly Opinions Vary.
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Then you are most certainly lacking a lot.
Try harder to understand.
Common sense & scientific principles aren’t that Difficult for you are they.
You were the dumbdumb who started this thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=664922.0
You can't interpret data so it's no surprise you fail to understand anything science related.
Carry on bro and remember
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You were the dumbdumb who started this thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=664922.0
You can't interpret data so it's no surprise you fail to understand anything science related.
Carry on bro and remember
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Ahhh and here we have Mr Flexacon a Living Genius & Legend in his own mind 🙄
Creator of the Universe & Current Mr Clever Clogs & Mr Knowitall
Is only you on Getbig that can understand Science. 🙄
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Good day to you 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻 I’ve wastedEnough time on you I’d rather watch paint dry.
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when I say "zebra" I'm kinda sorta referring to occam's razor
I remember hearing this in a episode of Law and Order:SVU and Stabler talking about "zebras"
I forgot what he exactly said but I googled "occam's razor zebra" and boom: the zebra rule
"when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.”
-that picture
-this is a website that's dedicated to male bodybuilding
I don't care how much you try to wax poetic about politics or how many words you use: ......you can't cover up the fact that you're just a thirsty old queen on a muscular penis board yo....fuck outta here with the wise old sage shit
so stop flexing like you're fucking Steven Pinker when in reality you want to be fucking steven pinker
EDIT: btw- I'm more of a Law and Order:CI guy
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Ahhh and here we have Mr Flexacon a Living Genius & Legend in his own mind 🙄
Creator of the Universe & Current Mr Clever Clogs & Mr Knowitall
Is only you on Getbig that can understand Science. 🙄
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Good day to you 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻 I’ve wastedEnough time on you I’d rather watch paint dry.
Breathing in the paint fumes would explain your lack of brain cells. Maybe you should wear a mask dumb dumb.
And the irony of a 12,000 count poster talking about "wasted time" to a 2,000 count poster...
Then again maybe I'm expecting too much from a dumb dumb like you to pick up on stuff like this.
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Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID vaccine candidates have been given fast track status by the FDA. Moderna Inc was given fast track status for it's COVID-19 vaccine in May.
The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, like the Moderna vaccine, is based on a technology called messenger RNA, which uses a key genetic messenger found in cells to create protein that the immune system then learns to attack.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/pfizer-biontechs-covid-vaccine-candidates-fast-tracked-by-fda (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/pfizer-biontechs-covid-vaccine-candidates-fast-tracked-by-fda)
https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-vaccine-from-pfizer-and-biontech-shows-positive-results/ (https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-vaccine-from-pfizer-and-biontech-shows-positive-results/)
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You Wear you’re mask & be scared of your own shadow if you want - Good for you if it works.
I’m looking at the Facts & Figures & the haphazard implementation of different things
& it is full of Contradictions & holes.
I’ll carry on Questioning & possibly disbelieving what’s said & done - That works for Me.
Very Clearly Opinions Vary.
Yes you should definitely do this if it works for you. But, will you be wearing a mask when you go out in public? Not for yourself, because we all know you aren't afraid of you shadow, but for the folks you encounter to whom you might give the gift of COVID-19?
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Why Millions Of Potatoes Are Being Thrown Away During The Pandemic
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Yes you should definitely do this if it works for you. But, will you be wearing a mask when you go out in public? Not for yourself, because we all know you aren't afraid of you shadow, but for the folks you encounter to whom you might give the gift of COVID-19?
Nope - why would I ? I’ve carried on working all the way through - Having been around many
Staff & Children who have continued to go to a private school, if I was going to get it & suffer
Badly the chances are very high I would’ve done by Now.
I could also bump into someone who could pass on the gift of a 101 other infections
I don’t want - and that’s been the case for the last 59yrs of my Life without wearing a Mask.
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How Effective Against Coronavirus Are Face Shields Compared To Masks?
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First COVID-19 vaccine tested in US poised for final testing
The experimental vaccine, developed by Fauci’s colleagues at the National Institutes of Health and Moderna Inc., will start its most important step around July 27: A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.
But Tuesday, researchers reported anxiously awaited findings from the first 45 volunteers who rolled up their sleeves back in March. Sure enough, the vaccine provided a hoped-for immune boost.
Those early volunteers developed what are called neutralizing antibodies in their bloodstream -- molecules key to blocking infection -- at levels comparable to those found in people who survived COVID-19, the research team reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.
“This is an essential building block that is needed to move forward with the trials that could actually determine whether the vaccine does protect against infection,” said Dr. Lisa Jackson of the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle, who led the study.
There’s no guarantee but the government hopes to have results around the end of the year -- record-setting speed for developing a vaccine.
The vaccine requires two doses, a month apart.
There were no serious side effects. But more than half the study participants reported flu-like reactions to the shots that aren’t uncommon with other vaccines -- fatigue, headache, chills, fever and pain at the injection site. For three participants given the highest dose, those reactions were more severe; that dose isn’t being pursued.
Some of those reactions are similar to coronavirus symptoms but they’re temporary, lasting about a day and occur right after vaccination, researchers noted.
https://www.masslive.com/coronavirus/2020/07/first-covid-19-vaccine-tested-in-us-poised-for-final-testing.html
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That graph is for deaths in hospital, not total deaths in England/UK.
There was no wave of death pre March. It was just a slow spread and the deaths wouldn't have stood out amongst flu deaths. However the spread was exponential and that resulted in the dramatic peak in March/April. Also you might need to factor in the Asian version of the virus and the mutated European version which came later around Feb and possibly spreads faster.
Masks might be redundant in the UK as we aren't far off heard immunity, but they are taking no chances because they can't afford another lockdown this winter.
It's okay if you don't understand the science behind, as it seems a lot scientists themselves don't seem to understand fuck all either. Just put any shitty mask on in the shops and go about your business.
Fuck me , you still believe what this government is telling you after the monumental fuck ups ,lies and cover ups.
Seriously?
I have already got my exemption from wearing a mask, anyone can get one, carry it with you
Just explain you have a hidden disability, they cant even ask you what it is as they would be in breach of the DDA.
They can still refuse you entry to the shop but they could then find themselves on the end of a huge fine for discrimination.
https://shop.disabilityhorizons.com/products/ppe/mask-exemption-travel-card-lanyard-or-clip-badge/
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Fuck me , you still believe what this government is telling you after the monumental fuck ups ,lies and cover ups.
Seriously?
I have already got my exemption from wearing a mask, anyone can get one, carry it with you
Just explain you have a hidden disability, they cant even ask you what it is as they would be in breach of the DDA.
They can still refuse you entry to the shop but they could then find themselves on the end of a huge fine for discrimination.
https://shop.disabilityhorizons.com/products/ppe/mask-exemption-travel-card-lanyard-or-clip-badge/
The whole thing is idiotic. In a restaurant you have to wear it until you get to your table and then you can take it off. On a plane you have to wear it unless you’re going to eat or drink something.
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Fuck me , you still believe what this government is telling you after the monumental fuck ups ,lies and cover ups.
Seriously?
I have already got my exemption from wearing a mask, anyone can get one, carry it with you
Just explain you have a hidden disability, they cant even ask you what it is as they would be in breach of the DDA.
They can still refuse you entry to the shop but they could then find themselves on the end of a huge fine for discrimination.
https://shop.disabilityhorizons.com/products/ppe/mask-exemption-travel-card-lanyard-or-clip-badge/
Lol, come on now mate. I was telling people on here the virus was spreading much earlier than most western governments claimed and before the new research came out, but people didn't wanna believe it.
The Virus was likely around in Jan/Feb in a lot of places. Itt just wasn't yet diagnosed.
I was saying months ago that masks work only if everyone wears them, but they present their own dangers.
Masks can work if everyone wears them, but not everyone can or will wear them, so it's pointless and can even be detrimental if you're a healthy person. I stated a month back I wasn't wearing one.
Having to wear a mask will suck. I will be refusing/avoiding it where possible even if that means I have to walk 2 hours to get to work instead of taking the train.
As usual most of you are late to the party, but still fail to understand the nuances of what's going on.
Also just because I explain the science and supposed rationale behind government policy decisions doesn't mean I think they will work, or that they don't have an ulterior motive.
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A person I know just died and had covid. Not sure how they classify the death. I guess they'll call it a covid death. Guy was in his late 50's, 50-60 lbs overweight, Hispanic, big drinker, had bad yellowing of his eyes. Went in for some kind of leg surgery. Heard it was so kind of vascular issue. Tested negative before surgery. Had complications from the surgery and went back to the hospital. They tested him for covid again and he had it. He died a couple days later.
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A person I know just died and had covid. Not sure how they classify the death. I guess they'll call it a covid death. Guy was in his late 50's, 50-60 lbs overweight, Hispanic, big drinker, had bad yellowing of his eyes. Went in for some kind of leg surgery. Heard it was so kind of vascular issue. Tested negative before surgery. Had complications from the surgery and went back to the hospital. They tested him for covid again and he had it. He died a couple days later.
It’s COVID. Nothing else matters.
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A person I know just died and had covid. Not sure how they classify the death. I guess they'll call it a covid death. Guy was in his late 50's, 50-60 lbs overweight, Hispanic, big drinker, had bad yellowing of his eyes. Went in for some kind of leg surgery. Heard it was so kind of vascular issue. Tested negative before surgery. Had complications from the surgery and went back to the hospital. They tested him for covid again and he had it. He died a couple days later.
So, SF19oo is finally dead :D
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People should be thanking you for posting this, but on getbig only posts wrapped in tinfoil gain any traction.
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I get the feeling this thread will get to the lofty heights of the Dorian vs Ronny thread. And no one's mind will be changed either, haha
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I get the feeling this thread will get to the lofty heights of the Dorian vs Ronny thread. And no one's mind will be changed either, haha
Except in this debate one side can provide scientific and evidence based arguments and the other side can only provide potatoes wrapped in tinfoil type arguments.
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170 pages of "It's just a flu lol".
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Except in this debate one side can provide scientific and evidence based arguments and the other side can only provide potatoes wrapped in tinfoil type arguments.
Geesh- lighten up Einstein Jr. it was a fucking joke.
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The virus is weak. It was always weak. Now it's even weaker.
The entire story is now a lie. A piss filled smelly lie.
Never wear a mask. Never social distance. Never stay home. Never.
Cowards wear a mask. Cowards stay home.
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Humans can only survive through adaptation.
Unfortunately, some of a weaker constitution will succumb to shit like COVID.
It’s the way she goes.
Just charge ahead, being mindful of good general hygiene habits, etc., and get at ‘er.
Too much thinking. Too much dancing around.
If the reaper comes for you, that’s that.
Fuck masks. Fuck fear. Fuck sinister factions that are using this weak-ass virus to further hurtful and corrupt mandates.
Fuck the world.
Hail and kill.
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How deadly is the coronavirus? The true fatality rate is tricky to find
Early reports from January painted a grim picture about just how deadly the coronavirus was. Initially, the World Health Organization estimated that the percentage of infected individuals who die from COVID-19 was 3.4%. That statistic is called the infection fatality rate (IFR) – or colloquially, the death rate – and means that for every hundred people infected with COVID-19, on average, between three and four would die.
As time has gone on, it has become clear that the true risk of death is much lower. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently has a best guess of 0.65% for the IFR. But current estimates fall anywhere between 0.2% and 1%, a surprisingly large range when calculating the infection fatality rate should be as simple as dividing the number of deaths by total infections. And these estimates are changing all the time. In fact, in the time it took to write this article, the CDC changed its best estimate of the fatality rate from 0.26% to 0.65%.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/deadly-coronavirus-true-fatality-rate-121406190.html
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The Coronavirus is very tricky. ::)
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Coronavirus death toll disputed after PHE accused of ‘exaggerating COVID-linked deaths’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-phe-accused-exaggerating-deaths-093838013.html
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Where are the bodies?
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What It's Like to Be Evicted in the Middle of a Pandemic
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CNN stated as deadly as the 1919 flu ,killed more nyc in April as that flu ,I can’t believe they pulled that one out to try to keep it going,they even showing falcii clips now stating his concerns of the possible shutdowns due to this.
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CNN stated as deadly as the 1919 flu ,killed more nyc in April as that flu ,I can’t believe they pulled that one out to try to keep it going,they even showing falcii clips now stating his concerns of the possible shutdowns due to this.
Huh? You drinking?
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Let me know when cucktard DemoCraps start dropping en masse from this turrrrrBULL virus.
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Huh? You drinking?
sober lol,,maybe i didnt type word for word ,but something to that extent.saying that it could move at that rate if it can/does..
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the homeless' bodies are just pilling up all over the streets now... oh the humanity
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BOSTON’S ICONIC Cheers bar, located at Faneuil Hall Marketplace, is facing permanent closure after the business suffered immensely due to the pandemic. The bar is a replica of the set from the popular Cheers sitcom, which aired from 1982 to 1993, and was a staple of the Boston bar scene and a favorite among tourists. Now, after 20 years, the bar will close for good on August 30.
According to the bar’s CEO Marus Ripperger, the dire financial situation was not helped by the property’s landlord, who refused to offer rent forgiveness or assistance when the bar was forced to close in the middle of the pandemic.
“Cheers Replica Bar has had a wonderful 20 years in the iconic Faneuil Hall Marketplace, one of America’s most cherished historic landmarks,” The bar’s founder, Tom Kershaw, said in a press release. “I have faced, and pulled through, many kinds of downturns and upticks in the economy within the last 20 years Cheers Replica Bar at Faneuil Hall Marketplace has been in business. Sadly, the COVID-19 pandemic, combined with no assistance from our landlord (Ashkenazy Acquisition Group), has made this current challenge insurmountable.”
The bar’s original location on Beacon Street, which inspired the one on the show, will still remain open to the public.
https://matadornetwork.com/read/bostons-iconic-cheers-bar-close-permanently/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Partner&utm_campaign=Thrillist&fbclid=IwAR1rvJ3Ex-kG9VpPRRQzOpQf0PLpV8g0Iq_DwWvYE4jNATJGUGqjUbO7jKY
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the homeless' bodies are just pilling up all over the streets now... oh the humanity
Yes....but they are just sleeping there because they have nowhere else to hang their heads.
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BOSTON’S ICONIC Cheers bar, located at Faneuil Hall Marketplace, is facing permanent closure after the business suffered immensely due to the pandemic. The bar is a replica of the set from the popular Cheers sitcom, which aired from 1982 to 1993, and was a staple of the Boston bar scene and a favorite among tourists. Now, after 20 years, the bar will close for good on August 30.
According to the bar’s CEO Marus Ripperger, the dire financial situation was not helped by the property’s landlord, who refused to offer rent forgiveness or assistance when the bar was forced to close in the middle of the pandemic.
“Cheers Replica Bar has had a wonderful 20 years in the iconic Faneuil Hall Marketplace, one of America’s most cherished historic landmarks,” The bar’s founder, Tom Kershaw, said in a press release. “I have faced, and pulled through, many kinds of downturns and upticks in the economy within the last 20 years Cheers Replica Bar at Faneuil Hall Marketplace has been in business. Sadly, the COVID-19 pandemic, combined with no assistance from our landlord (Ashkenazy Acquisition Group), has made this current challenge insurmountable.”
The bar’s original location on Beacon Street, which inspired the one on the show, will still remain open to the public.
https://matadornetwork.com/read/bostons-iconic-cheers-bar-close-permanently/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Partner&utm_campaign=Thrillist&fbclid=IwAR1rvJ3Ex-kG9VpPRRQzOpQf0PLpV8g0Iq_DwWvYE4jNATJGUGqjUbO7jKY
It is so sad how some things work out. The Cheers bar was the ultimate great neighborhood hangout place. Like the show, these places have become a memory. It makes me sad. My favorite neighborhood bar 'Starkey's' closed about 10 years ago and most of us bar buddies drifted apart, lacking a place we could call home. I've stayed in touch with a few of my friends from that great hangout. Somehow checking in with one another via Facebook or email isn't quite the same as the time we all spent together after hard day at the office, unwinding with a cocktail or two.
After Starky's closed, some of the patrons' most beloved bartenders, like Russell, found jobs tending bar at other establishments. Like me, a few of us visited them at their new gig, maybe hoping what we lost could be found again. Unfortunately, that never happened. Some of the best times in life are a one off. I miss all those hours of interesting conversation with my friends at Starky's, just as I imagine folks miss what they had at the Cheers' namesake.
I'm feeling nostalgic right now. If it weren't for this fucking virus, I'd be calling my old friends from Starkey's tomorrow and setting up lunch or drinking dates. Being that these folks are similar in age and probably like me playing it safe. Lunch or a drink is out unless we could find a place where we can still hear what one another says from 6' away and through a cloth face mask. Hmm, while the weather is still permitting, I think I could do this in my own back yard....BYOB.
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Yes....but they are just sleeping there because they have nowhere else to hang their heads.
Let's direct them to Pimlico Drive, West Linn ;)
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It is so sad how some things work out. The Cheers bar was the ultimate great neighborhood hangout place. Like the show, these places have become a memory. It makes me sad. My favorite neighborhood bar 'Starkey's' closed about 10 years ago and most of us bar buddies drifted apart, lacking a place we could call home. I've stayed in touch with a few of my friends from that great hangout. Somehow checking in with one another via Facebook or email isn't quite the same as the time we all spent together after hard day at the office, unwinding with a cocktail or two.
After Starky's closed, some of the patrons' most beloved bartenders, like Russell, found jobs tending bar at other establishments. Like me, a few of us visited them at their new gig, maybe hoping what we lost could be found again. Unfortunately, that never happened. Some of the best times in life are a one off. I miss all those hours of interesting conversation with my friends at Starky's, just as I imagine folks miss what they had at the Cheers' namesake.
I'm feeling nostalgic right now. If it weren't for this fucking virus, I'd be calling my old friends from Starkey's tomorrow and setting up lunch or drinking dates. Being that these folks are similar in age and probably like me playing it safe. Lunch or a drink is out unless we could find a place where we can still hear what one another says from 6' away and through a cloth face mask. Hmm, while the weather is still permitting, I think I could do this in my own back yard....BYOB.
You could do like Peter Griffin on Family Guy and put a bar in your basement. ;D There was a book written years ago with the title Bowling Alone that describes the situation. It was written 2 decades ago and is even more true today.
http://bowlingalone.com/
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It is so sad how some things work out. The Cheers bar was the ultimate great neighborhood hangout place. Like the show, these places have become a memory. It makes me sad. My favorite neighborhood bar 'Starkey's' closed about 10 years ago and most of us bar buddies drifted apart, lacking a place we could call home. I've stayed in touch with a few of my friends from that great hangout. Somehow checking in with one another via Facebook or email isn't quite the same as the time we all spent together after hard day at the office, unwinding with a cocktail or two.
What's your poison there Prime...?
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What's your poison there Prime...?
It was mainly scotch rocks.
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CNN stated as deadly as the 1919 flu ,killed more nyc in April as that flu ,I can’t believe they pulled that one out to try to keep it going,they even showing falcii clips now stating his concerns of the possible shutdowns due to this.
China Flu kills CNN, that would be good news ;D
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A Philippine Official Had Sex With His Staff Member While on a Zoom Call About COVID, Then Returned to Work As Normal
Getting caught wearing pajamas on a Zoom call? Bad. Getting caught having sex with your staff on a Zoom call? Worse.
A local government chief in the Philippines was caught having sex with his female treasurer during a work Zoom call to discuss the COVID-19 situation in the area.
Local media reported that the call brought together regional officials from Dasmariñas City in the Philippine province of Cavite, located on Luzon island. The official was identified as Jesus Estil, the captain of the Fatima Dos village council.
According to local media, the encounter began after Estil attempted to mute his Zoom app, thinking that he had also switched off his video. Estil can be seen, in full view of his colleagues, walking away from the computer to engage in a sex act for several minutes.
Afterward, Estil buttoned up his pants and nonchalantly returned to the computer screen. The video was recorded by a colleague on the call and has since made the rounds on Philippine social media.
Outraged residents swiftly filed a petition to have Estil and his treasurer removed from office for misconduct.
Philippines interior spokesman Jonathan Malaya said in a statement on Thursday that the act was “unbecoming.”
“It is appalling and disturbing because it goes against public morals,” he said. “We assure the public that we will investigate this incident and will hold the captain liable.”
Local media reports that the two officials have since stepped down from their posts.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3e5ya/a-philippine-official-had-sex-with-his-staff-member-while-on-a-zoom-call-about-covid-then-returned-to-work-as-normal?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook&fbclid=IwAR0A9fgs6BlhNhD2LKeE3LB0OYLV0QzbxisZNYexbxnADkdh5fCSK0bRqVw
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A Philippine Official Had Sex With His Staff Member While on a Zoom Call About COVID, Then Returned to Work As Normal
Getting caught wearing pajamas on a Zoom call? Bad. Getting caught having sex with your staff on a Zoom call? Worse.
A local government chief in the Philippines was caught having sex with his female treasurer during a work Zoom call to discuss the COVID-19 situation in the area.
Local media reported that the call brought together regional officials from Dasmariñas City in the Philippine province of Cavite, located on Luzon island. The official was identified as Jesus Estil, the captain of the Fatima Dos village council.
According to local media, the encounter began after Estil attempted to mute his Zoom app, thinking that he had also switched off his video. Estil can be seen, in full view of his colleagues, walking away from the computer to engage in a sex act for several minutes.
Afterward, Estil buttoned up his pants and nonchalantly returned to the computer screen. The video was recorded by a colleague on the call and has since made the rounds on Philippine social media.
Outraged residents swiftly filed a petition to have Estil and his treasurer removed from office for misconduct.
Philippines interior spokesman Jonathan Malaya said in a statement on Thursday that the act was “unbecoming.”
“It is appalling and disturbing because it goes against public morals,” he said. “We assure the public that we will investigate this incident and will hold the captain liable.”
Local media reports that the two officials have since stepped down from their posts.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3e5ya/a-philippine-official-had-sex-with-his-staff-member-while-on-a-zoom-call-about-covid-then-returned-to-work-as-normal?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook&fbclid=IwAR0A9fgs6BlhNhD2LKeE3LB0OYLV0QzbxisZNYexbxnADkdh5fCSK0bRqVw
pics/video or it didn't happen :-)
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Covid13. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
This shit was shit from the shitty beginning. Laughable shit.
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pics/video or it didn't happen :-)
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Cheers Flexacon.
The Grinch was imagining hot people sex on cam action instead of walruses in the wild. I want to wash my eyes now. :-X
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Cheers Flexacon.
The Grinch was imagining hot people sex on cam action instead of walruses in the wild. I want to wash my eyes now. :-X
At least they have their clothes on ;D
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My poor eyes. I hope this doesn’t dry me up.
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My poor eyes. I hope this doesn’t dry me up.
Hopefully, that woman wasn't dry either.
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At least they have their clothes on ;D
bleach.. I need bleach now... :-(
damn.. thought it was going to be some hot spokin' sex....... ugggh...
Can't unsee :-(
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What kind of moron would be afraid of an overblown virus that 99.99% of the global population has survived so far?
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What kind of moron would be afraid of an overblown virus that 99.99% of the global population has survived so far?
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR0Gb_eBVPoDJhnGtvZb7d536GZSC6dAZOtp_EldYfJIjMRKksY_YDPxVIM#Comorbidities
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR0Gb_eBVPoDJhnGtvZb7d536GZSC6dAZOtp_EldYfJIjMRKksY_YDPxVIM#Comorbidities
I like this quote from there:
"the estimates of excess deaths reported here may not be due to COVID-19, either directly or indirectly. The pandemic may have changed mortality patterns for other causes of death. Upward trends in other causes of death (e.g., suicide, drug overdose, heart disease) may contribute to excess deaths in some jurisdictions"
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170k COVID19 "deaths
But, according to the new CDC stats................... .
9200.....that's the number of people that have died from COVID19 and COVID19 alone. No comorbidites.
It's a scam.
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170k COVID19 "deaths
But, according to the new CDC stats................... .
9200.....that's the number of people that have died from COVID19 and COVID19 alone. No comorbidites.
It's a scam.
From day 1.
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170k COVID19 "deaths
But, according to the new CDC stats................... .
9200.....that's the number of people that have died from COVID19 and COVID19 alone. No comorbidites.
It's a scam.
Again GB on this scam from Day 1
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How ‘Flatten the Curve’ Turned into ‘Shut Down Forever’ Here in California
But even more troubling than that, huge real-life decisions will be totally dependent on the data point which is not only the least relevant, but also completely unreliable. We now know, thanks to a shocking story in Saturday’s New York Times (which the news media, in an act of abject malpractice is largely ignoring) that the typical test for Covid is prone to providing false-positive results.
Even before this new information, expected false-positive results alone would make it effectively unmanageable for a large California county reach Newsom’s laughably tight standards. Now that we know that the test itself is under scrutiny (which, by the way, should bring into question the reported death and hospitalization rates as well), it is now a sick joke that this is the metric controlling the lives of many millions of people both here, and around the country.
As if this couldn’t get any more preposterous, it all comes on the heels of California’s health director resigning because of massive errors in our data. And, just in case Newsom has not already scored enough woke points with all this nuttiness, on Tuesday he is expected to announce that he is adding a health inequity provision to the COVID reopening standards so that counties where the virus is particularly “racist” will have an even tougher time making their way up Newsom’s slippery ladder of insanity.
https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/how-flatten-the-curve-turned-into-shut-down-forever-here-in-california/
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Now it looks like the PCR tests are hyper sensitive and people with low/non-contagious viral loads are popping positive and inflating positive test #'s.
Positive test counts are useless as a metric and even more useless w/o context....which is why it's great states and nations are using them as the primary metric for lockdowns.
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Steroids emerge as life-saving treatment for COVID-19
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/corticosteroids-deemed-an-effective-inexpensive-and-safe-treatment-for-severe-covid-19-230437532.html
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Steroids emerge as life-saving treatment for COVID-19
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/corticosteroids-deemed-an-effective-inexpensive-and-safe-treatment-for-severe-covid-19-230437532.html
Wrong steroids.
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Wrong steroids.
Good. The Rock won't have to give up his natty status. :D
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m
;D
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This last meme is just crazy
Years ago we watched infomercials saying for only x amount per day you can save ...,
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They're supposed to be "law" enforcement not "policy" enforcement. >:(
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7 months old topic & still no dead GetBiggers ???
If virus can't kill old Saggy or SF1900 then sucks !.
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They're supposed to be "law" enforcement not "policy" enforcement. >:(
So how is the 'it's my right, i don't have to do anything you say' attitude going for you Americans so far?
Honestly, would it kill any of you to actually just follow rules or.do what you are asked? Fuck me, it's a mask... yes, ruin your life over a mask..... #hero..... #sobrave.....
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The security guard doesnt even have it around his nose. What a scam this all is
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So how is the 'it's my right, i don't have to do anything you say' attitude going for you Americans so far?
I don't know anyone that has ever had Covid or know any one who knows anyone that has had it.
In the US they report 'death by covid' if you have it when you die.
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Honestly, would it kill any of you to actually just follow rules or.do what you are asked? Fuck me, it's a mask... yes, ruin your life over a mask..... #hero..... #sobrave.....
In the US, they'll release her immediately. It's not a stigma or life ruining event to not cover your face in the US. Out of courtesy, people generally respect company's policies regarding mask-wearing.
The cop could have used his discretion but let his ego get in the way. Unfortunately, all cops are paying a price for cops like that.
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So how is the 'it's my right, i don't have to do anything you say' attitude going for you Americans so far?
Honestly, would it kill any of you to actually just follow rules or.do what you are asked? Fuck me, it's a mask... yes, ruin your life over a mask..... #hero..... #sobrave.....
Having the attitude that we, meaning Americans, will only be pushed so far has gotten us our own independent country and in record time became the world super power.
Wearing a mask outdoors when everyone is spaced apart and then tazing and arresiting you for it is just ridiculous. They don't require it or arrest you if you are not wearing a mask rioting and burning down buildings.
We are not sheep and just blindly follow the rules. Especially rules set by power hungry politicians that don't follow the same rule they impose on others.
Where are you from?
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7 months old topic & still no dead GetBiggers ???
If virus can't kill old Saggy or SF1900 then sucks !.
I'll trade you SF for Shizzo.
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What the Actual FUCK??
New CDC data show that Coronavirus mortality rates are now well below those for a seasonal flu.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1564151857098946&set=a.178639475650198
"Seasonal flu infection/mortality rates(IFR)according to Tony Fauci are .1% (NEJM). CDC’s latest data show the COVID IFR for Americans in 0-19 age group is O.003% and in the 19-49 age group 0.02%. Combining 0-49 year olds, which represent 64% of US population, the IFR is 0.01% which means flu is 10x as lethal as COVID.
This number is 1/50th the death rates predicted by modelling funded by Bill Gates that Dr Fauci cited to justify the lockdowns in March.
CDC’s new data show that COVID IFRs for people over 65 are much higher, though still lower than flu in that group.
Furthermore, these numbers are probably inflated by unwise protocols adopted by the Northeastern states early in the pandemic of shoehorning seniors into deadly nursing homes and overuse of respirators.
This data raises three crucial questions:
1. If Covid -19 is now less deadly than seasonal flu, can we continue to justify lockdowns and mask mandates?
2. Is there any point in waiting around for fast tracked, zero liability vaccines with high risk profiles and meager efficacy?
3. Do pandemics disappear when moralities cease or when it’s no longer in the media’s financial interest to frighten and shame the public?"
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So, easy to fool the citizens, to maybe be able to enforce Bill Gates vaccine with chip?
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So how is the 'it's my right, i don't have to do anything you say' attitude going for you Americans so far?
Honestly, would it kill any of you to actually just follow rules or.do what you are asked? Fuck me, it's a mask... yes, ruin your life over a mask..... #hero..... #sobrave.....
It's not going all that well, truth be told. There used to be at least some recognition that balancing individual choice with group welfare took a little headscratching and a delicate implementation so as not to appear ham-fisted or overly authoritarian. People would ask things like "Is there data to support the efficacy of these proposed measures or their necessity?"
Lol, what dinosaurs we were. Today's enlightened masses recognize that The State knows what's good for them better than they could possibly know themselves. After all, you're not a doctor. If you are a doctor, you're not an epidemiologist. And even if you are, you aren't the leading epidemiologist. We thought we could ask questions and try to make informed decisions, as if we would know better than The Experts.
Maybe we just didn't want to admit our inadequacy, or the absurdity of predicating individual agency upon woeful incompetence. Thankfully, universal surveillance and unquestioning compliance are moving us past those dark times. #marchofprogress #ffsjustcomply #donaldsutherlandpointandhowl
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Lol, what dinosaurs we were. Today's enlightened masses recognize that The State knows what's good for them better than they could possibly know themselves. After all, you're not a doctor. If you are a doctor, you're not an epidemiologist. And even if you are, you aren't the leading epidemiologist. We thought we could ask questions and try to make informed decisions, as if we would know better than The Experts.
If you followed this thread you would see that collectively getbiggers hashed out and predicted exactly how the virus and pandemic would play out. We even pinpointed the almost exact IFR months before they got to the actual figure.
The experts were no match for getbig.
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So, easy to fool the citizens, to maybe be able to enforce Bill Gates vaccine with chip?
I am not getting a vaccine for a "pandemic" with a 99% survival rate.
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I am not getting a vaccine for a "pandemic" with a 99% survival rate.
What if it's enforced?
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What if it's enforced?
They have to catch me first. ;D
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its the kids they are after
please dont let your kids get vacinated, because your school wont let them attend otherwise. fuck them, do online or enroll in private school
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They have to catch me first. ;D
Beware! :D
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Elon Musk says he won’t take coronavirus vaccine, calls Bill Gates a ‘knucklehead’
SpaceX founder Elon Musk stirred the pot yet again after claiming that neither he nor his family would take a COVID-19 vaccine even if it was readily available.
The 49-year-old billionaire dropped the bombshell during a Monday appearance on the New York Times opinion podcast “Sway.”
“I’m not at risk, neither are my kids,” Musk told host Kara Swisher about the rationale behind his decision.
During the bizarre exchange, the Tesla CEO decried the nationwide lockdown as a “no-win situation” that has “diminished my faith in humanity.” Musk previously called widespread quarantines “unethical” and “de facto house arrest,” RT reports.
Instead of the current sweeping measures, the Boring Company boss suggested a more targeted lockdown where “anyone who is at risk” be “quarantined until the storm passes.”
Swisher criticized his suggestion, adding that humans could potentially die in the process.
“Everybody dies,” quipped Musk.
To emphasize the supposed ridiculousness of the quarantines, Musk boasted that SpaceX “didn’t skip a day” throughout the entire pandemic. “We had national security clearance because we were doing national security work,” he said. “We sent astronauts to the Space Station and back.”
Later on, the automotive mogul addressed Bill Gates’ criticisms of his skepticism toward the coronavirus, which Musk called “dumb” in March. During a CNBC interview in July, the Microsoft founder claimed that Musk didn’t know much about vaccines and said he hoped that the SpaceX head “doesn’t confuse areas he’s not involved in too much.”
“Gates said something about me not knowing what I was doing,” Musk told Swisher. “It’s like, ‘Hey, knucklehead, we actually make the vaccine machines for CureVac, that company you’re invested in.'” He was referring to the fact that Tesla manufactures equipment for the German biopharmaceutical firm CureVac.
This past July, the car magnate shaded Gates with a series of cryptic tweets that read, “Billy G is not my lover” and “The rumor that Bill Gates & I are lovers is completely untrue.”
https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/elon-musk-says-he-wont-take-coronavirus-vaccine/?fbclid=IwAR3karMD1lwoIdreIQhs3LW0faPzQJdzYHhAKmPv6WmoEtMhCPjB1bZo6N8
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“I’m not at risk, neither are my kids,” Musk told host Kara Swisher about the rationale behind his decision.
During the bizarre exchange, the Tesla CEO decried the nationwide lockdown as a “no-win situation” that has “diminished my faith in humanity.” Musk previously called widespread quarantines “unethical” and “de facto house arrest,” RT reports.
He's bang on. Nothing bizarre about this. I even regret getting the HPV vaccine, and by the time I got it, it had been on the market for almost ten years.
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He's bang on. Nothing bizarre about this. I even regret getting the HPV vaccine, and by the time I got it, it had been on the market for almost ten years.
Elon Musk is definitely at risk for that.
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The Rona 2.0
My nephew just started college. 5000 students.
They tested them all when they came in a couple weeks back.
Results just came back, 17 kids have "The Rona" but they are not sick.
They panicked, shut down school, sent 'em home until at least JAN. ::)
Its a whacky libtard college (like most).
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The Rona 2.0
My nephew just started college. 5000 students.
They tested them all when they came in a couple weeks back.
Results just came back, 17 kids have "The Rona" but they are not sick.
They panicked, shut down school, sent 'em home until at least JAN. ::)
Its a whacky libtard college (like most).
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Really WTF - That makes absolutely Zero sense.
That’s Leftwaffe Thinking 🙄
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🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Really WTF - That makes absolutely Zero sense.
That’s Leftwaffe Thinking 🙄
"Leftwaffe"?! "Leftwaffe"?!
"LEFTWAFFE"?!!
That is without a doubt the bestest term I have read in some time!!! May I please use this on the libtard side of my family?! They will roil with angry angst at this "word"!!!!
"LEFTWAFFE"!!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wuhan virus, Kung FLU & CHINA FLU is still killing in China !.
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Wuhan virus, Kung FLU & CHINA FLU is still killing in China !.
Good. Reduce the surplus poopulation. ;)
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The Rona 2.0
My nephew just started college. 5000 students.
They tested them all when they came in a couple weeks back.
Results just came back, 17 kids have "The Rona" but they are not sick.
They panicked, shut down school, sent 'em home until at least JAN. ::)
Its a whacky libtard college (like most).
Insane.
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At this point, it’s just the scam. Just the work.
The threat from the actual virus is negligible.
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At this point, it’s just the scam. Just the work.
The threat from the actual virus is negligible.
As usual, you are correct my friend. I am tired of this as are many people my age. We HATE hippies and this is the work fo dirty hippies.
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Corona virus. HAHAHAHAHA
America's most embarrassing moment in history.
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Corona virus. HAHAHAHAHA
America's most embarrassing moment in history.
Actually, this debacle of an award goes to the entire world, or near it. Fuck china.
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He's bang on. Nothing bizarre about this. I even regret getting the HPV vaccine, and by the time I got it, it had been on the market for almost ten years.
Don't regret it - it's good insurance for slit-lickers - protects them from 'Michael Douglas Syndrome' ;D ;D ;D
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Bill and Melinda Gates Used Indian Girls as Guinea Pigs for testing HPV Vaccine in 2008
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Pretty sure Gates uses African kids as test subjects as well.
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Covid19 One Meal a Day!
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I was on the one meal a day diet for almost all of 2019.
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I was on the one meal a day diet for almost all of 2019.
Getting ripped?
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Getting ripped?
No, but I have gained a little weight since going off it. Energy levels were much higher on it so I may go back on sometime or just try it every other day.
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I was on the one meal a day diet for almost all of 2019.
So I guess you don't buy into that 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight golden rule.
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So I guess you don't buy into that 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight golden rule.
Nope.
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I was on the one meal a day diet for almost all of 2019.
On what day did you eat?
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On what day did you eat?
March 3rd 2019. Ha, ha.
I ate everyday at around 6pm. I even worked out in the morning and then went all day without eating. It was tough for 3 or 4 days until I got used to it. When I came off of it I ate 4 or 5 small meals a day at about the same calorie amount. I probably enjoy eating small meals throughout the day more but the 1 meal a day diet is convenient.
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Noone + Galenko diet = ripped
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March 3rd 2019. Ha, ha.
I ate everyday at around 6pm. I even worked out in the morning and then went all day without eating. It was tough for 3 or 4 days until I got used to it. When I came off of it I ate 4 or 5 small meals a day at about the same calorie amount. I probably enjoy eating small meals throughout the day more but the 1 meal a day diet is convenient.
How much protein do you think you were getting per day and how did it affect your
strength during your workouts?
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How much protein do you think you were getting per day and how did it affect your
strength during your workouts?
I have no idea about the protein. The morning workouts were strong as ever because I had eaten a large amount the night before and was carb loaded. After a workout was the problem as waiting another 12 hours to eat made me at times feel famished. Again, this faded with time.
The reason I came off this diet is because I don't think it's really healthy to bombard the system with fat, carbs, and protein all at once. After the meal I would just want to sleep and do nothing else. I may go to an easier intermittent fast, like having an 8 hour window.
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CDC’s new IFR survivability estimates after contracting the virus are broken down by age as part of the agency’s “COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios" Scenario 5: Current Best Estimate are as follows:
0-19 years old survivability rate is 99.997%
20-49 years old survivability rate is 99.98%
50-69 years old survivability rate is 99.5%
70 years old or older survivability rate is 94.6%
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Bunch of cowards in this World!
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CDC’s new IFR survivability estimates after contracting the virus are broken down by age as part of the agency’s “COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios" Scenario 5: Current Best Estimate are as follows:
0-19 years old survivability rate is 99.997%
20-49 years old survivability rate is 99.98%
50-69 years old survivability rate is 99.5%
70 years old or older survivability rate is 94.6%
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Bunch of cowards in this World!
It will only get worse. Expect to see lockdowns regularly now.
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How Gyms are Bracing for the Future of Fitness
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I'm glad I train at home.
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Haven't seen this thread in a while.... :D
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Some of the gyms in my area require you to sign up for a time slot. You can do it over the phone or online. This works pretty well for me, they are only allowing 10-15 people inside the gym at a time and most of the time people don't show up for their slot so it's empty. I just went back to the gym after training at home since March. Feels good to have more options, but i do try to avoid all the mouth breathers walking all over the gym.
They have 2-3 people who walk around constantly cleaning equipment and such. The saunas and pool areas and closed. No group exercise classes inside, but they are allowing them out in the parking lot if you are distanced and wear a mask.
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Haven't seen this thread in a while.... :D
Regarding to Alan Jones only 77 people died in Australia* from China Flu/Kung Flu/Wuhan Virus ...........
90% + 80yo & all in nursing homes :o ???
* country of 25 millions
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Don't regret it - it's good insurance for slit-lickers - protects them from 'Michael Douglas Syndrome' ;D ;D ;D
Just saw this - LOL! I was under the understanding that if I got the form of HPV that causes cervical cancer, I would pass it on to them. I didn't realize it would prevent me from getting cunnilingus-induced oral cancer. If so - awesome! ;D
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Just saw this - LOL! I was under the understanding that if I got the form of HPV that causes cervical cancer, I would pass it on to them. I didn't realize it would prevent me from getting cunnilingus-induced oral cancer. If so - awesome! ;D
LMFAO. Your best post ever.
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South Korea’s Universal Basic Income Experiment to Boost the Economy
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https://www.facebook.com/erik.jeffreys.9/videos/10223252422277761
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One of Europe's leading neurologists, Dr. Margareta Griesz-Brisson, MD, PhD, has opinion that masks are dangerous and should not be mandated. Her interview was censored and removed from YouTube.
She is one of thousands of doctors and scientists from around the world who have strongly disagreed with the measures taken by the World Health Organization to combat COVID-19.
Dr. Brisson says it is the re-breathing of carbon dioxide and the resulting (imperceptible) oxygen deficiency that is the reason wearing a mask is so dangerous.
Re-breathing exhaled air creates oxygen deficiency and elevates carbon dioxide to neurologically-damaging levels. The human brain is very sensitive to oxygen deprivation. Our nerve cells for instance in the hippocampus cannot go longer than three minutes without oxygen without some level of degradation. The symptoms of oxygen deficiency are headaches, drowsiness, dizziness and a slowdown in ability to concentrate.
Wearing a mask produces a carbon dioxide anesthesia that over time, debilitates brain function. Oxygen deprivation is dangerous to the brain and can lead to delayed-onset neurodegenerative diseases. For example, if today you forget your phone number, the break-down in your brain already started 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Wearing a mask may set the stage for many people to develop brain diseases who would have otherwise never developed such cognitive decline.
Re-breathing one's exhaled air begins a degenerative process in the brain where oxygen deprivation causes the brain's nerve cells to no longer divide. They cannot be regenerated. What is gone is gone.
The common mask does not protect one from the virus. It is the equivalent of trying to stop a mosquito from passing through a chain-link fence.
Children are particularly susceptible to the above effects and should therefore never wear a mask.
BOTTOM LINE: DO NOT WEAR A MASK OR IF YOU MUST (PER LAW), THEN COVER JUST YOUR MOUTH LEAVING YOUR NOSTRILS FREE TO BREATHE UNCOVERED.
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TOTAL U.S. DEATHS ALL CAUSES:
2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm
2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm
2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 9/26): 2,130,000 (236,000/month)
Conclusion: SCAMDEMIC!
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TOTAL U.S. DEATHS ALL CAUSES:
2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm
2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm
2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 9/26): 2,130,000 (236,000/month)
Conclusion: SCAMDEMIC!
Where are you getting death count for 2020 so far?
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It's all laughable shit. The most disgraceful moment in American history.
Just a thousand lies told by a million cowards with the hope that one day their lies will be the truth.
It is a lie and everyone who believes it is a coward.
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Tommie is a great patriot and is stating the obvious
We are just tired of the cowards
Like in any time period of history
Those of us you called names and called us irresponsible and screamed at us over a mask You chose to wear
History will call us hero’s for fighting when the cowards would not
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Tommie is a great patriot and is stating the obvious
We are just tired of the cowards
Like in any time period of history
Those of us you called names and called us irresponsible and screamed at us over a mask You chose to wear
History will call us hero’s for fighting when the cowards would not
Unfortunately, the historians will be liberal fucktards and will probably compare us to Hitler.
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Where are you getting death count for 2020 so far?
Yeah, you provided links for 2017 and 2018 but not 2019 (I'm trying to find it). The link for 2020 seems to just cover Jan - March of 2020.
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Fareed Zakaria: Ten Lessons for the Post-Pandemic World
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It's about time!
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Trump Slams "Idiot" Dr. Fauci: "Every Time He Goes On TV It's A Bomb...But There's A Bigger Bomb If You Fire Him"
During a conference call with campaign staff that White House reporters were bizarrely allowed to listen in on, President Trump complained that "there's a bomb" every time Dr. Anthony Fauci goes on television, which is most days.
This is far from the first time President Trump has complained about the good doctor. But it might be the first time he's offered some direct commentary on exactly why he won't fire Dr. Fauci, even as Trump seems to have moved on with a new COVID-19 advisor, Dr. Scott Atlas, who has faced persecution by Big Tech for his views on how to approach COVID-19.
Though he conceded that the good doctor is "a nice guy" who has "been around for 500 years", Trump said the problem with Dr. Fauci is that every time he goes on TV "there's a bomb", yet if you fire him, "there's an even bigger bomb".
"People are saying whatever...just leave us alone. People are tired of COVID...People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong...every time he goes on television there's always a bomb, but there's a bigger bomb if you fire him. This guy's a disaster."
With less than 3 weeks to go before election day, Trump also asserted that the American people are moving on from COVID-19 as cases rebound, while hospitalizations are also starting to creep higher. However, so far at least, deaths have been mostly subdued.
Confirming that he was speaking mostly off the cuff, Trump added after that if there was a reporter on the call (he didn't seem to realize that multiple WH reporters were apparently listening) they could report it "just how I said it."
"If there's a reporter on you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said.
According to the NYT, Trump's campaign manager had organized the call to discuss strategy, before Trump pivoted to Dr. Fauci, an issue that was clearly on his mind following the doctor'scriticisms of Trump's campaign ads last week.
The NYT also brought up an interview with Dr. Fauci on '60 Minutes' last night where the doctor refuted Trump's claims that the end of the outbreak is just around the corner.
Trump also reportedly called an NYT article claiming Trump was becoming increasingly dissatisfied with some of his aides - which followed Trump hinting that he might not bring back AG Bill Barr if elected for a second term due to his inability to charge any of the FBI officials involved with Operation Crossfire Hurricane despite the mountain of evidence suggesting some skulduggery was afoot as the FBI tried to put together an "insurance policy" to protect the nation from Trump.
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Make sure you cover your face,
do and watch what corporations tell you to,
live your life through celebrity, post their pictures, note and mourn their deaths, discuss their interviews and movies, reference them always, find solace in reminiscing about what you watched years ago on a tv set, fund them through cable and Netflix,
follow corporate sports and take their games seriously,
denigrate the White race and "whiteness", mock Christianity, mock Southerners, mock Midwesterners,
and you will be one of the obedient good people.
Do anything to the contrary and you are a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe...(and even some other control-words that corporations have yet to make up)....and therefore bad.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzPj5BFP/Ekt-Qg-MSW0-AAT2-Xr.jpg)
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Not a single GetBiger died from China Flu ;D
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$19.84 the day I posted, and it's hit $80 since. Did anyone buy back then? Feel free to laugh at me for failing to. :-[
COVID Vaccine Excitement Builds as Moderna Reports Positive Result
Preliminary data show that the immunization is 94 percent effective and seems to prevent severe infections
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-vaccine-excitement-builds-as-moderna-reports-positive-result/
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I was just being facetious. I got out for very different reasons, but believe it or not a pandemic was maybe 5th on my list of reasons. Still I know I got "lucky".
Right now I'm sitting tight until I can get an antibody test as the priority for me is staying on top of this real life mess as I am in a virus hotspot. I have however placed a few small puts on some Pharmaceuticals and Diagnostics companies which are already doing pretty well. Let's see if I can get "lucky" again.
Best of luck in your endeavours.
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COVID Vaccine Excitement Builds as Moderna Reports Positive Result
Preliminary data show that the immunization is 94 percent effective and seems to prevent severe infections
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-vaccine-excitement-builds-as-moderna-reports-positive-result/
Do you know what's 99.5% effective and not dying from COVID?
;D
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A possible game changer to tackle and prevent coronavirus with a nasal spray solution that has an ingredient that’s found in commonly used Xclear, which alleviates congestion.
“The nasal spray is available in the market. It has been in the market for about 20 years," Ferrer said. "My group and I have done research on it, and it shows that it is helping people with chronic virus sinus issues."
Ferrer and researchers in Utah and Geneva have completed successful in vitro testing to combat COVID-19.
Now, the results from those clinical trials are being sent to the FDA for approval.
“Our hope that with the research is it will prove that it’s safe and effective," Ferrer said. "It actually decreases the symptoms as we have observed in a small controlled group of patients of people that we have tested.”
https://cbs12.com/news/local/south-florida-researcher-works-to-clear-icu-beds-nasal-spray-treatment-for-covid-19
Potential Role of Xylitol Plus Grapefruit Seed Extract Nasal Spray Solution in COVID-19: Case Series
Published online 2020 Nov 3
"In summary, the three patients reported in this article, with minimal to moderate risk for morbidity and mortality from COVID-19, demonstrated an improvement in the symptoms and a reduction in the clinical course post use of xylitol plus GSE in the form of a nasal spray, commercially available as Xlear nasal spray, as an adjunct to their ongoing treatment. This combination could play a potential role in improving the outcome in mild to moderate COVID-19 patients."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645297/?fbclid=IwAR0gjwK9qtjrj86xOY7C2VqmQ7wovQQWDZzRgkwnOehRywg8-gl1qGofR4Q
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The same communist compliance techniques of the 1950's are being implemented for CONvid-1984
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Fauci’s lies cost Trump the Presidency and the media played along
Flopping Aces ^ | 12/28/20 | DrJohn
Posted on 12/28/2020, 5:35:41 PM by Starman417
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Dr. Anthony Fauci recently admitted that he lied about COVID 19. Specifically, he lied about herd immunity and PPE.
We'll come back to that shortly.
In an interview with Bob Woodward Trump acknowledged how dangerous the Wuhan virus was
The president said the coronavirus was "more deadly" than "even your strenuous flus," and difficult to address because "it goes through air."
He also admitted downplaying its severity- for a reason
"I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic,"
He didn't want to create a panic or a run on PPE. Remember that.
For this, he was excoriated endlessly
In his twisted, narcissistic mind, Trump no doubt believes this admission casts him in a positive light. Here’s the concerned national patriarch risking his own credibility to keep Americans from freaking out and doing who knows what. Maybe making a run on the grocery stores, canceling vacations and pulling kids out of school? Well, good thing that didn’t happen. Oh, wait — it did.
And more
He would have supported the sensible recommendations of his own health experts, rather than repeatedly trying to muzzle and sideline them while pushing unproven miracle cures. He would have donned a face mask the minute researchers made it clear that wearing one would protect people from infection.
Face masks? The recommendations of his own experts? This expert?
"Right now, in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks," Fauci said during the interview. "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask."
Back to Fauci. Fauci admitted he lied about the Wuhan virus- more than once. He lied about herd immunity:
In a Christmas Eve interview with the New York Times, Fauci acknowledged he had offered a lower estimate of the level of herd immunity necessary to stop the COVID-19 pandemic because he thought Americans would be discouraged by hearing his true thoughts on the issue.
He recently raised his estimate on the herd immunity threshold "partly based on new science," the newspaper reported, "and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks."
He told us what he thought we wanted to hear- and for the sake of polls
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
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For the past 5 years we've averaged a 15.8% positive rate for the flu by week 51. This year it's a paltry 0.10%. Where did the flu go this year?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JXUW_6CF4e04iAWyC_MU23SY6scEYUo4GKEXmQUhHbo/edit#gid=1095809895
For the past 3 years there have been an average of 176 annual infant deaths from the flu. This year there's been 1.
But there have been at least 20 infant deaths attributed to COVID. https://www.kmov.com/news/debunking-myths-about-covid-19-in-infants/article_35b1dc52-0575-11eb-9d18-6727cfc89683.html
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu//weekly//weeklyarchives2020-2021//images//PEDFLU51.GIF)
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This has nothing to do with classifying the flu as Covid in 2020 and anyone that thinks otherwise is not obeying corporate media talking points. >:(
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Any MSM journalist pointing this out would probably be fired.
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So remind me again why idiots are wearing a mask outside?
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html
"There were virtually no cases that we could identify that took place in sort of everyday life outdoors," study author Mike Weed, a professor and researcher at Canterbury Christ Church University, told AFP.
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So remind me again why idiots are wearing a mask outside?
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html
"There were virtually no cases that we could identify that took place in sort of everyday life outdoors," study author Mike Weed, a professor and researcher at Canterbury Christ Church University, told AFP.
You wear a mask outside to virtue signal everyone of what a good sheep you are. I can't stand seeing these fucktards using a masked pic as an avatar or a facebook photo. Usually a college aged woman.
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You wear a mask outside to virtue signal everyone of what a good sheep you are. I can't stand seeing these fucktards using a masked pic as an avatar or a facebook photo. Usually a college aged woman.
I love how these liberal failures who like straw are fat and obese and out of shape year round scream "The science!!!!" Yet the so called science also says vitamin D deficiency is big, so is being a obese slob, etc. So these fat bastids staying home and inside binging on cookies and cake and all sorts of crap who can barely stand up off the couch can F off.
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IF - we accept that an event like this causes mass infection
Then what's the logic of proceeding to distribute the 'infected' people around the globe as 'punishment'..?..?
"Australia's immigration minister has said that backpackers and other foreign visitors caught flouting public health restrictions could be deported.
Alex Hawke said he was shocked by scenes from Sydney's Bronte Beach on Christmas Day.
Videos of the gathering shared on social media showed hordes of young revellers singing and dancing in breach of coronavirus regulations.
Some eyewitnesses said many of those present were British"
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55471235 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55471235)
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388 people under 60 have died in the UK from Covid19.
Yes, thats right 388
Oh and our precious NHS workers who are working their fingers to the bone on 30th Sept 78,4000 of them threw a sick day from work.
I have been visiting someone in hospital for the last two weeks, the place is a fucking ghost town, empty corridors
A security guard with learning difficulties having a meltdown because he didnt know what a medical exemption from wearing a mask was..
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Wow! There sure are were a lot of people over 60 in the U.K.
United Kingdom Covid Cases Overview
United Kingdom
Total cases 2.74M
Deaths 74,679
Im not making it up, those are the figures on the Gov.uk website people under 60 who had no comorbidities
You have more chance of drowning in the UK if you are under 60 and healthy
And the 74k is people who died "with covid" not "from covid"
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This has nothing to do with classifying the flu as Covid in 2020 and anyone that thinks otherwise is not obeying corporate media talking points. >:(
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The CDC has said that Flu has disappeared because of people wearing masks, they also say Covid is spreading because people are not wearing masks..
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The CDC has said that Flu has disappeared because of people wearing masks, they also say Covid is spreading because people are not wearing masks..
Lmao you said it bro! Hahaha
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The CDC has said that Flu has disappeared because of people wearing masks, they also say Covid is spreading because people are not wearing masks..
:D
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Teachers Unions Must Never Be Allowed To Ban Kids From An Education Again
The Federalist ^ | December 30, 2020 | Daniel Buck
Posted on 12/30/2020, 12:38:03 PM
As an adult who teaches, I got to choose an open school. Union politics have now barred millions of families from a similar privilege.
I don’t blame schools for closing in March. Very little was known about COVID-19 then, so closures seemed the safest decision amid the uncertainty.
Neither do I blame schools for a meager showing that semester. My own district threw together online curricula and instructional materials practically overnight. The results were dismal, but it’s the best many could have done given the situation.
However, we’ve now had nine months to understand this virus, and all the evidence favors returning to in-person instruction. Studies have found that schools are not in fact the “super spreaders” many feared. Dr. Anthony Fauci himself has said to “close the bars and keep the schools open.”
Perhaps some schools in hot-spots ought to close, but they should do so for genuine safety concerns, not fear of consequences at the next election. Citing the social, emotional, and academic benefits of in-person learning, The American Association of Pediatrics “strongly advocates” for open schools everywhere possible.
Nonetheless, the majority of our nation’s children have spent the last nine months staring at a computer screen at home, clicking through homework links or simply opting to not show up. One institution bears significant guilt for this state of affairs: teacher’s unions.
Cato Institute researcher Corey DeAngelis crunched the numbers and confirmed what many suspected: school closures had more to do with union power than pandemic concerns. When he reviewed the decisions that various districts and schools made to open or close, he found that the data correlated more closely with the strength of policies favorable to unions than to case counts and deaths.
The politics get more ludicrous. Unions have protested when school officials set open dates. While discussing school openings, the Los Angeles teachers union also demanded a wealth tax and Medicare for All. A number of unions banded together with the Socialists of America on a resolution to “demand safe schools,” only to eschew discussions of safe openings to instead decry charter schools and suggest cancellation of rent.
At the end of last semester, I decided to change districts to one that would open. Some of my students have had to quarantine. However, with masks, social distancing, and hand sanitizer, we’ve had no local spread; we’ve traced our positive cases to external exposures. We’ve had no disastrous outbreak.
Rather, we have spent our year so far discussing books, playing vocabulary games, running football plays at recess, learning subjects and predicates, decorating my room with Christmas lights, and doing everything a school ought to do: promoting socialization, academic development, and mental health.
As an adult, I got to choose an open school. Union politics have now barred millions of families from a similar privilege.
The academic losses are severe. In June, The New York Times reported months’ worth of learning losses because of school closures. Fewer than half of students showed up during that first semester online. While attendance has improved the learning loss continues, especially among poor and minority students.
After a critical response, the Chicago Teachers Union deleted a tweet insinuating that the push to open schools comes from “racism, sexism, and misogyny.” Considering who these learning losses affect most, it’s quite the opposite.
If enrollment numbers are any determinant of public opinion, then school openings appear wildly popular. The superintendent of Boston Catholic Schools reported an increase of 4,000 students after they made their announcement to open. Other districts have seen similar trends. Families are voting with their feet, many opting out of public education for any in-person schooling available.
If nothing else, this situation is a clear example of both union power and their disregard for student concerns. Families, teachers, and taxpayers cannot truly influence school decisions when union members have the power to strike, undue influence in local elections, and the purse of their national affiliates.
The American Federation of Teachers gave more in political donations than the boogie-man Koch Industries did in 2020. Teachers unions have long been a dominant force in local and national politics, both in funding and manpower.
While the worst of the pandemic closures seem nigh over, there’s a clear policy moving forward that can protect students from similar sways of union fickleness: school choice. Zipcodes locked students into closed schools during the pandemic, and only those with means could look elsewhere.
A few others chose “pandemic pods” but even that forces the opportunity cost of staying home from a job. They should have had the freedom to look elsewhere without legal consequences, but our current laws kept them from doing so.
It’s time to continue legislative victories that weaken the sway of government unions over American education. The Supreme Court decision Janus v. AFSCME ensured that no public school teachers need to pay union dues if they do not want to. Local laws in many states increased austerity measures to ensure they don’t follow Detroit’s lead and bankrupt themselves from over-promised, union-bargained pensions. School choice would similarly allow any family to select a school that is less beholden to union pressure.
Unions do not care for students. The pandemic has made this abundantly clear. They’ve lost prestige in many people’s minds from this. It’s right that they continue to lose political power too.
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Did I say you were fabricating those figures? Also, I don't see where I used the words from or with in my reply. The article didn't differentiate between the two. However when you change the word 'from' to 'with' in google and the exact same article comes up....with the exact same numbers.
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=jK8&sxsrf=ALeKk004LPhGRfA7VG8x6j_tOY3Kw-FKCQ%3A1609288492294&ei=LMvrX4y9EYnc-gSdubSoCw&q=how+many+people+in+the+UK+have+died+with+covid%3F&oq=how+many+people+in+the+UK+have+died+with+covid%3F&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoECAAQR1CxhRBY2IsQYLWXEGgAcAN4AIABUIgBqAKSAQE0mAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBB8ABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiMg7LnuvTtAhUJrp4KHZ0cDbUQ4dUDCAw&uact=5
The Daily Mail which which reported the stats you provided uses the word 'of' covid
388 people aged under 60 with 'NO underlying health conditions' have died of Covid in England's hospitals.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9090847/Only-377-people-aged-60-no-underlying-health-conditions-died-Covid-UK.html
Yes, "of" covid means you died from covid alone, "with" covid means various things, it can mean you tested positive but died of cancer or dementia or a multitude of other causes.
They have even used the word "with" covid even if the person who has died hasn't even had a test.
The figures have been vastly inflated, and thats in every single country in Europe.
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The Daily Mail is rated as having a 'right' bias. The Daily Mail figures concur with yours. The Daily Mail used the term 'of' and not 'with'. In my original post, I used the term 'from'. While I don't disagree with your definition of these words, I believe they are often used interchangeably or without giving them the finite meaning that you do.
Regardless of whether people died from, of or with Covid, I did not disagree with your figures. I was simply surprised that such an overwhelming majority (like almost all) of the Covid deaths were people over 60. If they'd taken it a step further, and discounted pre-existing conditions, the people under 60 who died of or from Covid would be almost nil. Don't you agree?
Whether or not Covid numbers are inflated is not part of this original conversation or the first post, which was by you.
Its 388 people who have died under 60 from covid alone, without pre-existing conditions.
There are more under 60 that have died with pre-existing conditions.
I think we are basically in agreement but sen to be at cross purposes over the definitions.
The UK uses the term "died within 28 days of a positive diagnosis"
I have an 88 year old friend who is in hospital at the moment with various conditions but not covid as she has had 4 tests whilst in there.
I guarantee if she doesnt pull through she will have Covid mentioned on her death certificate.
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Im not making it up, those are the figures on the Gov.uk website people under 60 who had no comorbidities
You have more chance of drowning in the UK if you are under 60 and healthy
And the 74k is people who died "with covid" not "from covid"
Yes, this really f**ks me off too >:(
The other annoying one is that they talk about the number of positive test results rising, but they never do it as a percentage of tests being carried out - if you're doing a hundred times more tests, of course the number of positives will rise
Those corrected CIR figures are probably tucked away on some website somewhere, but they never seen to surface
The other number that was reported at the beginning but seems to have dropped away, was a figure for those who have recovered - i.e. the good news. You can see them on the first few pages of this thread (which BTW are quite funny now in hindsight)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=661765.0;attach=817512;image)
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Yes, this really f**ks me off too >:(
The other annoying one is that they talk about the number of positive test results rising, but they never do it as a percentage of tests being carried out - if you're doing a hundred times more tests, of course the number of positives will rise
Those corrected CIR figures are probably tucked away on some website somewhere, but they never seen to surface
The other number that was reported at the beginning but seems to have dropped away, was a figure for those who have recovered - i.e. the good news. You can see them on the first few pages of this thread (which BTW are quite funny now in hindsight)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=661765.0;attach=817512;image)
Yesterday they said they had 53,000 new cases in the UK
There are 90 testing centres, that means each testing centre would had had to have had at least 96 positive cases every hour of the 6 hours they are open..
There is a testing centre near me that is always empty..
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Yesterday they said they had 53,000 new cases in the UK
There are 90 testing centres, that means each testing centre would had had to have had at least 96 positive cases every hour of the 6 hours they are open..
There is a testing centre near me that is always empty..
Joswift and another maths fail :D
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Joswift and another maths fail :D
sorry it was 98.1481481481 per hour ,my bad
53,000 divided by 90 =588.888888889 positive tests per station
Divide that by six hours =98.1481481481 per hour
Or half an apple....
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I love how these liberal failures who like straw are fat and obese and out of shape year round scream "The science!!!!" Yet the so called science also says vitamin D deficiency is big, so is being a obese slob, etc. So these fat bastids staying home and inside binging on cookies and cake and all sorts of crap who can barely stand up off the couch can F off.
This is also funny. Even though I suspect me and my family had this back at the beginning that's just a guess. I know personally of only two people that have had this actually confirmed since March - both very obese - both had visits to hospital but have recovered
And even though we've been told that obesity is a risk factor, people talk about putting weight on during lockdown!! 'COVID spread' *sigh* ::)
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???
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“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.
2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.
Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.
The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.
From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.
With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.
With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.
https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4
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“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.
2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.
Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.
The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.
From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.
With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.
With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.
https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4
What are the chances it happened when his entire family joined him onstage and took turns hugging him while he was still breathing deeply from posing..?
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What are the chances it happened when his entire family joined him onstage and took turns hugging him while he was still breathing deeply from posing..?
If takes on average 5 days for symptoms to appear, so add another 5 days to those 3 weeks.
That puts his infection date a few days before the Olympia, meaning a good chance he competed whilst infected!
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If takes on average 5 days for symptoms to appear, so add another 5 days to those 3 weeks.
That puts his infection date a few days before the Olympia, meaning a good chance he competed whilst infected!
He looked terrible. I love Dex but this was a horrible showing.
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All just a coincidence right ?
Everything is about financial
Not much talk about the “ problem “
Anymore
Problem = solution
They tried with SARS it didn’t work
But the crash did happen
Now another crash
Coincidence both had germs associated around then
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Covid-19 is real, but yes, it is a 1% or less mortality rate. The older you get, the more it is lethal. Simple as that. It is like the flu, BUT much worse in quite a lot of people, as it goes into the chest and you have a harder time breating in before you couch out.
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Deaths to and including November from all causes in the UK in 2020 = 551,000
Total deaths in the UK in 2018 = 616,000
So unless over 67,000 people have died in December the UK is better off this year than 2018
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“I have been fighting Covid-19 for three weeks” – Dexter Jackson.
2008 Mr. Olympia winner Dexter Jackson has confirmed on his official social media that he has Covid-19.
Dexter has retired from competitive bodybuilding after competing for the last time at the 2020 Olympia Weekend.
The bodybuilding legend that has a record 29 victories said that Covid-19 is no joke.
From having a bad cough to sweating constantly, Dexter has been locked inside his home for three weeks.
With the 2020 Olympia Weekend taking place just about three weeks ago, it seems that Dexter might have got infected during the Olympia Weekend or just afterwards.
With Dexter confirming he is infected; it would not be a surprise if other athletes come forward confirming that they also have Covid-19.
https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/i-have-been-fighting-covid-19-for-three-weeks-dexter-jackson/?fbclid=IwAR0pmac10b_i_aH3jnOXcZxFMdeCMZICUIc1CjCXE77Oz6B-qvh3DKjb9a4
Thats Tren and T3s
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I knew it was only a matter of time. So far, everything is going according to plan.
Hey Getbig COVID believers - didn't you tell us "Just two weeks to flatten the curve"? What gives?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lKCTkLJbtT4
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The excess mortality data is coming in.
Question to ANYONE:
Does ANYONE here even notice a pandemic is going on? ANYONE?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/U9iQ4HP3qdO8
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wooooshhhh
and just like that... there was a cure...
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Fags and cowards. Cowards and fags.
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Yes. I notice it whenever I go out. There are far fewer cars on the road. People in public places wear masks. I wanted to eat breakfast out this morning and guess what? That's not possible right now unless you order take out and eat it in your car. When I go to the doctor, I have to call them when I arrive to see if it is okay to come in. There used to be school buses stopping to pick up and drop off kids though out the day on the street corner in front of my house. Have yet to see one this school year. I am fucking bored shitless and there is nothing I can think of to do anymore that I haven't already done to keep myself occupied.
Let me guess. You are going to tell me it is my own fault and I should just ignore the whole pandemic thing. Easy peasy! Now tell me in detail how to go about doing that.
And again you’re completely clueless.
It’s almost impossible to consider the intensity of your stupidity.
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And again you’re completely clueless.
It’s almost impossible to consider the intensity of your stupidity.
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And again you’re completely clueless.
It’s almost impossible to consider the intensity of your stupidity.
He just loves to be different and disagree. He probably is on left wing forums arguing for the right.
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He just loves to be different and disagree. He probably is on left wing forums arguing for the right.
So true lol... I think maybe it makes him feel smart?
Ironic if that were the case, because simultaneously it makes him look stupid.
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Fags and cowards. Cowards and fags.
Fagards..?
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Israel Plans to Vaccinate Everyone by March. Here’s How.
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Israel Is Vaccinating ‘Everyone’ – Besides These 5 Million People
Israel’s world-beating vaccine rollout is highlighting the inequalities of life under occupation.
Standing before a Boeing Dreamliner as another huge shipment of coronavirus vaccine was unloaded at Ben Gurion airport this week, Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu made an audacious pledge.
“We will vaccinate everyone by the end of March, and become the first country in the world to emerge from corona,” he declared, adding that the newly-arrived Pfizer-BioNTech stocks would allow the government to ramp up delivery to a rate of 170,000 shots a day.
But Netanyahu’s promise to vaccinate “everyone” doesn’t extend to nearly 5 million Palestinians living under Israel’s effective control, for whom the prospect of a vaccine remains far off.
While Israel’s world-beating vaccination programme does cover its Arab citizens, and Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem, millions of Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, and Gaza, are excluded from the rollout. Under the programme, Israeli officials deliver vaccines to Jewish settlers living deep inside the West Bank, but Palestinians living in surrounding towns go without.
Meanwhile, the staggering effectiveness of Israel’s “Operation Back to Life” – enabled by having paid a premium to secure the vaccine early – means nearly three-quarters of Israelis over 60 have already received their first jab, with booster shots already being delivered. The country of 9 million has delivered nearly 24 vaccine doses for every hundred of its citizens – streets ahead, on a per capita basis, of the only other contenders in the global vaccine race: the UAE (14), Bahrain (6), the UK (5) and US (3).
For critics, the stark disparity over vaccines in the region has only highlighted the entrenched discrimination of life under Israeli occupation. Rights groups and Palestinian officials have accused Israel of shirking its legal and moral duty to ensure vaccines are delivered in the occupied territories, amid growing calls – including a petition signed by hundreds of rabbis – to secure vaccines for Palestinians.
“The vaccination campaign is just further exposing this reality where you have a two-tier system – where you treat part of the population you control with rights and protection, and you deny the others,” Saleh Higazi, Amnesty International’s Middle East and north Africa deputy director, told VICE World News.
“This is the point where the institutionalised discrimination shows very clearly. They’re all under Israel’s effective control, but the state values the lives of some over others.”
Amnesty, along with other rights groups and public health experts, says Israel’s obligations under international law are specifically laid out in the Geneva Conventions, which state it has a duty to maintain public health “in the occupied territory, with particular reference to the adoption and application of ... measures necessary to combat the spread of contagious diseases and epidemics.”
Israeli officials would not comment on the record to VICE World News, but have said that the Palestinian Authority bears the responsibility to meet the healthcare needs of its citizens under the terms of the Oslo Accords, the interim peace agreements signed in the 1990s that granted the Palestinians limited self-governance, although their borders remain effectively controlled by Israel.
“I don’t think that there’s anyone in this country, whatever his or her views might be, that can imagine that I would be taking a vaccine from the Israeli citizen, and, with all the goodwill, give it to our neighbours,” Israeli Health Minister Yuli Edelstein told Sky News, adding that Israel would consider providing excess vaccines to the Palestinians once its own population was inoculated.
"They have to learn how to take care of themselves.”
The Palestinian Authority rejects Israel’s claims it has no responsibility to secure vaccines for the occupied West Bank, or Gaza. The Palestinian Foreign Ministry said in a statement that Israel had been “ignoring its duties as an occupation power and committing racial discrimination against the Palestinian people, depriving them of their right to healthcare.”
“The search by the Palestinian leadership to secure the vaccines from various sources doesn’t exempt Israel from its responsibilities towards the Palestinian people in providing the vaccines,” it said.
For its part, the poorly-resourced Palestinian Authority is now attempting to compete in the cut-throat global market for vaccines, seeking them directly from suppliers – it’s reached an agreement with drugmaker AstraZeneca – as well as under the auspices of a World Health Organisation scheme to assist poorer countries.
But the first shipments could be months away, with the Palestinian Authority saying Sunday it did not expect to see the AstraZeneca vaccines until March, by which stage Israel expects to be eyeing the finish line of its national vaccination campaign.
Yara Asi, a teacher in the Department of Health Management and Informatics at the University of Central Florida who has family in the West Bank, said Israel’s attempts to avoid responsibility for the occupied territories during the pandemic was symbolic of the broader crisis engulfing the Palestinians.
Under the status quo, she told VICE World News, the Palestinian Authority “doesn’t control its own borders, its imports, who comes in and out of its country.”
“All of this is under Israel’s control – so to now question whether Israel is the occupying power, and whether they have responsibility, is ... disingenuous.”
When it came to the healthcare of Palestinians, she said, “the Palestinian Authority doesn’t have the capacity, Israel feels it no longer has the responsibility, so what happens is all the holes are patched by humanitarian organisations.”
The dire situation had been allowed to persist for decades, she said, with healthcare “seen as secondary to hard, tangible issues like land.”
“But when it comes down to something like a pandemic, it’s exposed what’s behind this façade. It’s about a population of 5 million that isn’t served by anybody.”
Aside from the legal debate over who bears ultimate responsibility, groups like the influential Rabbis for Human Rights organisation have stressed a moral imperative for Israel to assist the Palestinians, arguing for the religious obligation “not to show indifference as our neighbour suffers, but rather to mobilise and offer help in times of need.”
Meanwhile, Asi and others point out there is also a clear pragmatic reason for Israel to help inoculate their neighbours, given the thousands of Palestinian workers from the West Bank who enter Israel daily.
Even Edelstein, Israel’s Health Minister, acknowledged his government’s clear interest in vaccinating Palestinians, telling Sky News: “We do understand that it's in Israeli interests that there will be less cases on the Palestinian side.
“Many of the Palestinians are working here in Israel. You can't divide the two neatly and say, you know, ‘They can deal with it themselves; it's not our issue.’ It is our issue.”
Dr Medhat Abbas, consultant of international affairs at the ministry of health in Hamas-controlled Gaza, told VICE World News he believed that Israel did have a responsibility to secure vaccines for the Palestinians. “If you put someone in jail, you are responsible for feeding them and treating them,” he said.
But despite this, he had no expectation that Israel would intervene. For many Palestinians, the notion of receiving any assistance from a bitter enemy is absurd.
“Why do you expect Israelis to give vaccines to Palestinians?” he said.
“It’s not the only crime committed against our people by those killers. They are occupying us and depriving us of many things, not only the vaccine. They have deprived us from our lands, from our lives, from medicine, from travelling outside, from our freedom. We expect nothing from these people.”
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqbv8/israel-is-vaccinating-everyone-besides-these-5-million-people?utm_content=1610631618&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR161cc94V7vmzdeap8NjYfrvGPLNA2aLPY1Wy5EvMpbCVNempJ-8ZYSKMg
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They are the guinea pigs.
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Covid 19 is life changing. On some level most of us know that life is short, but 2020 taught us and solidified the fact that we don’t get a second chance and the importance of truly appreciating what and who we have in our lives whilst living to the fullest. It's vital now to concentrate your efforts to go online. And I learnt that time is a limited resource – don’t waste it.
Sup brah..,, that's deep your right we should go online... In dark times porn can save us all....
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-suffers-sharpest-rise-in-poverty-rate-in-more-than-50-years/ar-BB1d4QoE?pfr=1
Gee wonder why.
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Covid 19 is life changing. On some level most of us know that life is short, but 2020 taught us and solidified the fact that we don’t get a second chance and the importance of truly appreciating what and who we have in our lives whilst living to the fullest. It's vital now to concentrate your efforts to go online. And I learnt that time is a limited resource – don’t waste it.
no, it isnt
the wool being pulled over sheeps eyes is maybe. (sheep, wool.hmm)
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woooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Israel Plans to Vaccinate Everyone by March. Here’s How.
Population of Israel?
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woooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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We should be praising Covid. ;D
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NO
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NO
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Liberals like yourself have been begging for this. Enjoy your anal probe.
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Liberals like yourself have been begging for this. Enjoy your anal probe.
Are we in China?
Btw don't assume you know anything.
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woooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Yeah, I posted that the average flu positive rate around Dec over the past 5 years was nearly 16%, but it was 1/10 of a percent at the end of 2020.
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NO
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Split pants for adults?
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Yeah, I posted that the average flu positive rate around Dec over the past 5 years was nearly 16%, but it was 1/10 of a percent at the end of 2020.
They will probably credit masks for the low flu numbers so we can plan on wearing masks forever even after Covid.
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https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pandemic/ny-ag-report-says-cuomo-admin-undercounted-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-by-as-much-as-50-percent-ties-cuomo-order-to-4000-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR31VvpY5Q7Ph12CYdqDaBqi7saQMXGxBne_boLzgXapBOd88ebfZvFRiCY
Liberal equals FAIL - every time.
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A possible game changer to tackle and prevent coronavirus with a nasal spray solution that has an ingredient that’s found in commonly used Xclear, which alleviates congestion.
“The nasal spray is available in the market. It has been in the market for about 20 years," Ferrer said. "My group and I have done research on it, and it shows that it is helping people with chronic virus sinus issues."
Ferrer and researchers in Utah and Geneva have completed successful in vitro testing to combat COVID-19.
Now, the results from those clinical trials are being sent to the FDA for approval.
“Our hope that with the research is it will prove that it’s safe and effective," Ferrer said. "It actually decreases the symptoms as we have observed in a small controlled group of patients of people that we have tested.”
https://cbs12.com/news/local/south-florida-researcher-works-to-clear-icu-beds-nasal-spray-treatment-for-covid-19
Potential Role of Xylitol Plus Grapefruit Seed Extract Nasal Spray Solution in COVID-19: Case Series
Published online 2020 Nov 3
"In summary, the three patients reported in this article, with minimal to moderate risk for morbidity and mortality from COVID-19, demonstrated an improvement in the symptoms and a reduction in the clinical course post use of xylitol plus GSE in the form of a nasal spray, commercially available as Xlear nasal spray, as an adjunct to their ongoing treatment. This combination could play a potential role in improving the outcome in mild to moderate COVID-19 patients."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645297/?fbclid=IwAR0gjwK9qtjrj86xOY7C2VqmQ7wovQQWDZzRgkwnOehRywg8-gl1qGofR4Q
New Study Concludes Xlear Kills and/or Deactivates SARS-CoV-2; Efficacy Against New Variants
January 26, 2021
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https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210126005436/en/
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We should be praising Covid. ;D
apparently the reason flu has disappeared is because people are wearing masks
Also the reason Covid is spreading is because people are not wearing masks?????
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apparently the reason flu has disappeared is because people are wearing masks
Also the reason Covid is spreading is because people are not wearing masks?????
Yep
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apparently the reason flu has disappeared is because people are wearing masks
Also the reason Covid is spreading is because people are not wearing masks?????
I pretty much get the flu/cold every year but not this year. Alot of family members feels the same about it.
I think it's because we are more careful and hygienic this year than before. We don't sneeze everywhere, we don't shake people hands like before etc
Masks are pretty good when you use them wisely like in public transport or crowded spaces it helps I think. Sure I'm not a dumbass who's wearing it while walking alone or with very few people around
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I pretty much get the flu/cold every year but not this year. Alot of family members feels the same about it.
I think it's because we are more careful and hygienic this year than before. We don't sneeze everywhere, we don't shake people hands like before etc
Masks are pretty good when you use them wisely like in public transport or crowded spaces it helps I think. Sure I'm not a dumbass who's wearing it while walking alone or with very few people around
I haven't worn one since it started, I dont wash my hands any more than I used to, I have never used hand gel, I do tend to avoid people but I always did that before, I think its the 2 metre rule that has the most impact on transission
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apparently the reason flu has disappeared is because people are wearing masks
Also the reason Covid is spreading is because people are not wearing masks?????
These inconsistencies come up almost every day that yet so many of the population just buy into every fucking piece of bullshit the government and the media feed them. Truly unbelievable.
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You can see where this is heading. Vaccinations will not be mandatory unless you actually want to do anything like work or travel.
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I haven't worn one since it started, I dont wash my hands any more than I used to, I have never used hand gel, I do tend to avoid people but I always did that before, I think its the 2 metre rule that has the most impact on transission
Same. Only if the store mandates it do I wear a face diaper.
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I haven't worn one since it started, I dont wash my hands any more than I used to, I have never used hand gel, I do tend to avoid people but I always did that before, I think its the 2 metre rule that has the most impact on transission
do you live in a densely populated area? take public transportation?
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This is gonna be the most massive windfall ever for big Pharma. Where are the liberals going on about this?
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Since this video was first released by The New York Times, the federal eviction moratorium has been extended to March 31. Despite the extension, past rent will still be due once the moratorium ends.
Evictions Are On Hold, But What Happens When Rent Is Eventually Due?
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Since this video was first released by The New York Times, the federal eviction moratorium has been extended to March 31. Despite the extension, past rent will still be due once the moratorium ends.
Evictions Are On Hold, But What Happens When Rent Is Eventually Due?
A lot of people expect the Govment to bail them out at the end.
I know a few people who have deferred their car payments and mortgages.
But they don't believe it will all be due once this passes.
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A lot of people expect the Govment to bail them out at the end.
I know a few people who have deferred their car payments and mortgages.
But they don't believe it will all be due once this passes.
There will be an explosion of bankruptcies soon.
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Please do not encourage Primemuscle
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Joe Rogan absolutely nails it.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/10/double-masking-can-reduce-covid-exposure-improve-effectiveness-cdc-study-finds.html
Why not wear the entire box?
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Unemployed Americans Are Smuggling Drugs to Survive the Pandemic
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wooooooooshhhhhh
Vaccine side effects are actually a good thing
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COVID Has Exposed Venice's Housing Crisis
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What Happens If You Have a Bad Reaction to the COVID Vaccine
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type "vaers1 001" into Youtube
there are no adverse reactions to Covid vaccine
Follow the instructions here and see for yourself
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CDC sez wear a stocking mask.
"Adding “a sleeve made of sheer nylon hosiery material” around your neck and over your nose and mouth on top of your surgical or cloth mask can also make the mask more effective."
They'll get men to wear pantyhose one way or another. :-X
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/10/cdc-double-masking-with-a-surgical-and-cloth-mask-reduces-exposure.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/10/cdc-double-masking-with-a-surgical-and-cloth-mask-reduces-exposure.html)
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CDC sez wear a stocking mask.
"Adding “a sleeve made of sheer nylon hosiery material” around your neck and over your nose and mouth on top of your surgical or cloth mask can also make the mask more effective."
They'll get men to wear pantyhose one way or another. :-X
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/10/cdc-double-masking-with-a-surgical-and-cloth-mask-reduces-exposure.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/10/cdc-double-masking-with-a-surgical-and-cloth-mask-reduces-exposure.html)
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Bank robber look 8)
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Israel Covid rate down 96% among those who received both Pfizer shots
The rate of Covid-19 infections dropped 95.8 per cent among people who received both shots of Pfizer’s vaccine, Israel’s health ministry said on Saturday.
The vaccine was also 98 per cent effective in preventing infections that caused fever or breathing problems and 98.9 per cent effective in preventing hospitalisations and death, the ministry said.
The findings were based on national data collected on February 13th from Israelis who had received their second shot at least two weeks previously. According to the health ministry’s website, about 1.7 million people had been administered a second shot by January 30th, making them eligible to be included.
Previous reports from individual healthcare providers also showed positive results, spurring Israel to remove restrictions on the economy after weeks of lockdown. On Sunday, schools and many stores will be allowed to reopen.
The health ministry has also rolled out a “green pass” app, linked to personal medical files, which people who have been fully inoculated or deemed immune after recovering from Covid-19 can show to stay at hotels or attend cultural or sporting events.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/israel-covid-rate-down-96-among-those-who-received-both-pfizer-shots-1.4490771
(https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/israel-covid-rate-down-96-among-those-who-received-both-pfizer-shots-1.4490771)
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https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/?fbclid=IwAR04OgFZUleEtZ-8EHl_88D15nzuazPE9aVYaUY0NI5QMfQZidstC4SmTeE
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Oh Brother.
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/hoboken/sections/health-and-wellness/articles/two-more-fatalities-as-hoboken-covid-cases-continue-to-climb
"Unfortunately, we were informed this week of the passing of two additional Hoboken residents in January due to COVID-19, a female in her early 80s and a male in his early 90s
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https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/?fbclid=IwAR04OgFZUleEtZ-8EHl_88D15nzuazPE9aVYaUY0NI5QMfQZidstC4SmTeE
Almost literally jaw-dropping stuff there - thanks for posting
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Almost literally jaw-dropping stuff there - thanks for posting
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.
“By this PHE definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness. A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later.”
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“By this PHE definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness. A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later.”
One of the things that made me grind my teeth with this thing - talking about the UK here - is even the BBC used the terms below seemingly interchangeably
Died of COVID
Died with COVID
Died from COVID related symptoms
Died following a positive test for COVID (no term specified)
In recent weeks, they seem to have settled on a slightly different version: "Died within 28 days of a positive test"
But that still does not mean the person died of the f**king thing
AND - that does not match with the PHE guidance that joswift linked to and that you quote above
No wonder people is confuze! >:( ???
Edit: Just noticed your post was from March 2020 8)
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One of the things that made me grind my teeth with this thing - talking about the UK here - is even the BBC used the terms below seemingly interchangeably
Died of COVID
Died with COVID
Died from COVID related symptoms
Died following a positive test for COVID (no term specified)
In recent weeks, they seem to have settled on a slightly different version: "Died within 28 days of a positive test"
But that still does not mean the person died of the f**king thing
AND - that does not match with the PHE guidance that joswift linked to and that you quote above
No wonder people is confuze! >:( ???
Edit: Just noticed your post was from March 2020 8)
These classifications have no basis in reality. Given the number of asymptomatic cases you can’t know if these people would’ve suffered the exact same fate in the absence of the positive test.
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One of the things that made me grind my teeth with this thing - talking about the UK here - is even the BBC used the terms below seemingly interchangeably
Died of COVID
Died with COVID
Died from COVID related symptoms
Died following a positive test for COVID (no term specified)
In recent weeks, they seem to have settled on a slightly different version: "Died within 28 days of a positive test"
But that still does not mean the person died of the f**king thing
AND - that does not match with the PHE guidance that joswift linked to and that you quote above
No wonder people is confuze! >:( ???
Edit: Just noticed your post was from March 2020 8)
they have now started saying "died with Coronavirus", which of course could now include any coronavirus, not just Covid 19
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I choose to ignore the scamdemic.
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These classifications have no basis in reality. Given the number of asymptomatic cases you can’t know if these people would’ve suffered the exact same fate in the absence of the positive test.
This
they have now started saying "died with Coronavirus", which of course could now include any coronavirus, not just Covid 19
Didn't think of that angle
I choose to ignore the scamdemic.
Me too - to a point...
I can't be sure, but I think I had the thing last March. So although I've got a joker style mask I'll use occasionally (mainly to amuse small children and scare old ladies ;D), and I've had the fucboi vaccine so I can travel easily, etc. both of these things are just to make life easier for me - not to 'protect' me or others (oh brother)
But I've got friends with businesses and careers really taking a kick in the balls over this pathetic BS - they can't ignore it
And I struggle to ignore the way our government and media tries to ram sh1t down our throats about it >:(
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The NHS is encouraging hypochondria and Munchausen syndrome:
Nice horror movie poster, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKBMfN0T/Et-DRt-Ib-Vo-AMg9-JC.jpg)
"Hey idiots, now we want you to pretend like you're sick"
Baaaa...okay.
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The NHS is encouraging hypochondria and Munchausen syndrome:
Nice horror movie poster, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKBMfN0T/Et-DRt-Ib-Vo-AMg9-JC.jpg)
"Hey idiots, now we want you to pretend like you're sick"
It's fucken outrageous. I might have already posted this, but there's an appalling radio advert that says
"If you break the rules, people will die"
Will.
WILL
Out-f**king-rageous!
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It's fucken outrageous. I might have already posted this, but there's an appalling radio advert that says
"If you break the rules, people will die"
Will.
WILL
Out-f**king-rageous!
Sounds like a plausibly deniable threat.
This could be an advert for home schooling:
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It's fucken outrageous. I might have already posted this, but there's an appalling radio advert that says
"If you break the rules, people will die"
Will.
WILL
This is mega bullshit , WHY China Flu did not smashed Thailand, Australia or New Zealand !.
So many bloody cars on Aussie roads :(
Out-f**king-rageous!
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Welcome to 1 year anniversary of 2 weeks to flatten the curve.
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>:(
FU Cuomo you pos!
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So regarding to UFO fool, 1MR : I should died 8 X ::), because I was on 8 Intercontinental flights since Janury 2020 ???
& the BEST of all, not a single pilot or air crew died on those planes , on every flight there was + 100 travelers !.
So, WHO laughing now 1MR ;D
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???
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/21/approximately-190000-in-u-s-died-coronavirus-bidens-first-4-months-office/
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Cubs president upset team isn't 85% vaccinated against COVID-19: 'It’s a pretty horrible feeling'
a lot of the players have natural antibodies from previous infections but they still want them to get a shot of synthetic bullshit or not get paid. See where we are headed with the fucboi bullshit vaccines.
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No idea.
My question is that if the numbers are so low (relatively), why are predictions so high?
My government (Canada) is claiming 70% of the population will contact the virus. I think that’s an overreaction.
Strange you’ve changed your opinion.
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So I understand that this is a very contagious and deadly flu. However, I've seen several government warnings that 30% to 70% of people will contract the virus yet there are only about 170,000 cases worldwide. How do we go from 170,000 to several billion???
Am I missing something?
As a medical professional why were you so confused?
Gimmick
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If Italy was able to stop the virus from exponentially spreading then why is everyone panicking???
Also, if the virus didn't spread exponentially why did Italy lock down its citizens in the first place???
Huge piece of logic missing!
Who is this guy?
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Seems like the classic "Vicious Cycle" has now been created.
Each day one politician tries to "one up" the previous politician by passing extremes measures to battle the virus. The new extreme policy causes the public to believe the virus is getting worse. To appease the public the politician then passes yet another extreme measure......
No one is reacting to what the virus is doing anymore.
It’s like you’re a completely different person in less than 2 years.
And going through your posts there is no mention of you being a medical professional for a quarter of a century. That must be a recent reveal.
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It’s like you’re a completely different person in less than 2 years.
And going through your posts there is no mention of you being a medical professional for a quarter of a century. That must be a recent reveal.
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Yeoman's work from Dave D. Gimmick ruined.
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It's been a while since we had a gimmick outed on here. Great work Dave!
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Dave D prince of peace
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It’s like you’re a completely different person in less than 2 years.
And going through your posts there is no mention of you being a medical professional for a quarter of a century. That must be a recent reveal.
I don't care what all the other ANTIVAXXERS say (they're all SHEEP anyways).
It's definitely NOT normal to spend several hours reading 18 years of my posts to "prove me wrong" (you didn't by the way).
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I don't care what all the other ANTIVAXXERS say (they're all SHEEP anyways).
It's definitely NOT normal to spend several hours reading 18 years of my posts to "prove me wrong" (you didn't by the way).
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Cool story gimmick.
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Cool story gimmick.
Whatever you say "Hernia" Dave.
And again....I will NOT send you any pictures.
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Whatever you say "Hernia" Dave.
And again....I will NOT send you any pictures.
😆😆😆
I’ve never asked for pictures gimmick “oak”.
You’re the medical professional asking for help on getbig. Don’t forget it would be MONTHS before you could schedule the surgery, because of the Canadian health care system, and that was long before the hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid…
This is to easy.
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I’ve never asked for pictures gimmick “oak”.
You’re the medical professional asking for help on getbig. Don’t forget it would be MONTHS before you could schedule the surgery, because of the Canadian health care system, and that was long before the hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid…
This is to easy.
are you aware OAK stated he didnt care if some kids died from the vaccine as long as it works for a larger percentage of people?
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This is to easy.
to easy?
🙄🙄
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to easy?
so please discuss why it doesnt bother you if even one single kid dies from the vaccine? Are you actually delusional enough to think that isnt going to happen?
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so please discuss why it doesnt bother you if even one single kid dies from the vaccine? Are you actually delusional enough to think that isnt going to happen?
Why don't you ask "Hernia" Dave that question. I hear he knows a lot about kids.
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Why don't you ask "Hernia" Dave that question. I hear he knows a lot about kids.
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thats all you got?
You dont care if kids die and you just mock people and post memes?
Sad thing the internet allowing weak douchebags like you to talk the way you do with no repercussions
But hey, you dont care if kids die, doesnt matter who you are in reality, that speaks volumes
And Dave is a high quality poster who has been around for a long time and is respected by the whole board.
All this board wants is for you to go away, but you are a desperate troll needing attention cause you have nothing else to grasp onto in the world.
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thats all you got?
You dont care if kids die and you just mock people and post memes?
Sad thing the internet allowing weak douchebags like you to talk the way you do with no repercussions
But hey, you dont care if kids die, doesnt matter who you are in reality, that speaks volumes
And Dave is a high quality poster who has been around for a long time and is respected by the whole board.
All this board wants is for you to go away, but you are a desperate troll needing attention cause you have nothing else to grasp onto in the world.
(https://i.imgflip.com/ofikg.jpg)
🙄
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thats all you got?
You dont care if kids die and you just mock people and post memes?
Sad thing the internet allowing weak douchebags like you to talk the way you do with no repercussions
But hey, you dont care if kids die, doesnt matter who you are in reality, that speaks volumes
And Dave is a high quality poster who has been around for a long time and is respected by the whole board.
All this board wants is for you to go away, but you are a desperate troll needing attention cause you have nothing else to grasp onto in the world.
Haha well said. Yeah, fuck off 'oak' Dave D has just skinned you in front of the entire board. I knew you were either a feeble-minded weirdo or a troll and he has neatly revealed you as both.
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🙄
sigh
youre such a weak poster, so shizzo like its beyond remarkable how similar you 2 post
maybe you will be as desperate as him and comment on my youtube channel next?
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Haha well said. Yeah, fuck off 'oak' Dave D has just skinned you in front of the entire board. I knew you were either a feeble-minded weirdo or a troll and he has neatly revealed you as both.
Thanks for posting about Dave's "skin". Do you have a hernia fetish too? 🙄
In case you were wondering....I will not send you any pics either.
(https://c.tenor.com/5iXomuvuRQ4AAAAC/drop-the-mic-obama-mic-drop.gif)
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Thanks for posting about Dave's "skin". Do you have a hernia fetish too? 🙄
In case you were wondering....I will not send you any pics either.
(https://c.tenor.com/5iXomuvuRQ4AAAAC/drop-the-mic-obama-mic-drop.gif)
What?!
Dude you are delusional and obviously damaged goods. Get help.
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Sunday nights are an on night for Shizzoak drinking.
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Sunday nights are an on night for Shizzoak drinking.
haha so true you can always tell when shizzo is in the booze heavy, what a drunken loser
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are you aware OAK stated he didnt care if some kids died from the vaccine as long as it works for a larger percentage of people?
Did he really say this?
I'm sure this troll was just trying to strike a nerve with a statement like that.