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When I pick up a weight my sole intention is to stress the muscle as much as I can with that particular set.
After warming up I then pick a weight I feel comfortable I can get at least 12 reps with.
During the set if 12 is going to be easy I slow down the reps and contract the muscle to try and exhaust it even further.
I really have no goal as far as reps and weight go, I just make every set count.
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Best "the trainer" impression so far. You could be the next Juruth if you work hard enough at it.
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TA-level troll bait. Bravo.
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High reps are superior to low reps.
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Maybe this Guy can answer you .. fucking confused himself... ;D
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TA-level troll bait. Bravo.
Nope, its exactly my training philosophy.
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From a bodybuilding point of view hitting a PB on an excercise is likely counter productive.
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Maybe this Guy can answer you .. fucking confused himself... ;D
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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If I can't make that mind muscle connection during a set, I will simply go home and watch Game of Thrones.
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very good, sir 8)
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After all these years, I am still a sets -n- reps guy. I have a bodypart goal each day (currently, push/pull/legs) and decide actual exercises at game-time. Mostly about which exercise feels good or if I am working around an injury (pretty much all the time now). I do concentrate on the feel, but I am often overwhelmed by the rep counting cadence in my head.
I need to get over that.
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I never understand why people do 3 sets 12 reps?
What do they think they get out of stopping short on each set?
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I never understand why people do 3 sets 12 reps?
What do they think they get out of stopping short on each set?
It is the minimum mentality.
Same reason why people only run 26 miles, 385 yards in a Marathon - why not round it up to 27 you lazy fucking bastards
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This matter can't be seriously discussed unless you throw (or not) into the mix high quality supplements such as Plazmosis or SHREDZ products.
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Any session without getting hit on by a Thai gym fag is a good one for me
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When I pick up a weight my sole intention is to stress the muscle as much as I can with that particular set.
After warming up I then pick a weight I feel comfortable I can get at least 12 reps with.
During the set if 12 is going to be easy I slow down the reps and contract the muscle to try and exhaust it even further.
I really have no goal as far as reps and weight go, I just make every set count.
If 12 is going to be easy how about increasing the weight you wimpy pansy, if I have insomnia I would watch you workout so I can fall asleep.
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If 12 is going to be easy how about increasing the weight you wimpy pansy, if I have insomnia I would watch you workout so I can fall asleep.
(http://www.easyeffort.com/images/ud6_nh1.jpg)
Read what I wrote again numbnuts.
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Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
Spot on this really says it all.
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Do you even... ah, never mind :D
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I don't buy into a specific rep range.
I do whatever feels like it is providing adequate muscular tension.
At least for isolation exercises.
Strength training is a different kettle of fish. I deliberately hit 5 reps on deadlift, bench, and squat and progressively increase the weight each workout. Strength increases are predominantly a neuromuscular adaptation, hence lifting to failure is counter productive as it negatively adapts the central nervous system. Interestingly enough, neuromuscular super-compensation occurs when you *do not* lift to failure.
Furthermore, as you push the envelope towards failure, your form inevitably suffers and you risk injury (at least when lifting at more than 80% of a 1 rep max for deadlift and squat).
If you want to get stronger, do not exert yourself :P.
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I don't buy into a specific rep range.
I do whatever feels like it is providing adequate muscular tension.
At least for isolation exercises.
Strength training is a different kettle of fish. I deliberately hit 5 reps on deadlift, bench, and squat and progressively increase the weight each workout. Strength increases are predominantly a neuromuscular adaptation, hence lifting to failure is counter productive as it negatively adapts the central nervous system. Interestingly enough, neuromuscular super-compensation occurs when you *do not* lift to failure.
Furthermore, as you push the envelope towards failure, your form inevitably suffers and you risk injury (at least when lifting at more than 80% of a 1 rep max for deadlift and squat).
If you want to get stronger, do not exert yourself :P.
I agree with 5 reps, lowest i have went on Deads is 3 reps. You build strength fast with mass. However itīs a rep range for a set period only. Later it is better to use more volume. Alternate simple as that.
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No one cares about strength anymore. FACT is you need a strength base, a good strong strength base. If you go in with just higher reps, there will little density to the muscle. More on this later. But training for just a "pump" just to contact the muscle is not that effective.
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Just got back from the gym, made the fucking mistake of letting someone join in with me on the back machine before I had vetted him.
I had done 3 warm up sets and was now about to do a set with 120k which I can do around 15 reps with, I take the bars and pulldown the weight and when I did this guy seemed to think I needed it pushing as i was repping, the fucking idiot took all the tension off the weight and I felt like Branch fucking Warren for around 6 reps as the weight was swinging loose.
I put the weight down and moved over to another machine until he had finished.
Im too nice to tell him to fuck off.
He wont be joining in again thats for sure.
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No one cares about strength anymore. FACT is you need a strength base, a good strong strength base. If you go in with just higher reps, there will little density to the muscle. More on this later. But training for just a "pump" just to contact the muscle is not that effective.
Struth, here we go again.
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I have decided to stop working out and become a fat acceptance apologist.
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No one cares about strength anymore. FACT is you need a strength base, a good strong strength base. If you go in with just higher reps, there will little density to the muscle. More on this later. But training for just a "pump" just to contact the muscle is not that effective.
I agree, you have to change it up often.
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No one cares about strength anymore. FACT is you need a strength base, a good strong strength base. If you go in with just higher reps, there will little density to the muscle. More on this later. But training for just a "pump" just to contact the muscle is not that effective.
Your posts are laughable EXCEPT when it comes to training. Though I don't always agree with you, I'd say you're right about 90% of the time.
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Nope, its exactly my training philosophy.
everyone I know who trains this way is small and everyone I know who is motivated by numbers in the gym is enormous.
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dj181 was a strong proponent of progressive overload.
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dj181 was a strong proponent of progressive overloadon.
Fixed.
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everyone I know who trains this way is small and everyone I know who is motivated by numbers in the gym is enormous.
Odd we are the same height and weight?
You are higher weight offseason but contest shape we are the same.
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Just got back from the gym, made the fucking mistake of letting someone join in with me on the back machine before I had vetted him.
I had done 3 warm up sets and was now about to do a set with 120k which I can do around 15 reps with, I take the bars and pulldown the weight and when I did this guy seemed to think I needed it pushing as i was repping, the fucking idiot took all the tension off the weight and I felt like Branch fucking Warren for around 6 reps as the weight was swinging loose.
I put the weight down and moved over to another machine until he had finished.
Im too nice to tell him to fuck off.
He wont be joining in again thats for sure.
i turn my headphones up and keep my head down now
nobody can do a simple fucking spot
if i cant get on machine i do the next exercise and come back
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i turn my headphones up and keep my head down now
nobody can do a simple fucking spot
if i cant get on machine i do the next exercise and come back
I must be slipping mate, I normally get through without making eye contact with anyone.
I may be giving approachability vibes off, got to nip that shit in the bud.
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I must be slipping mate, I normally get through without making eye contact with anyone.
I may be giving approachability vibes off, got to nip that shit in the bud.
i made the mistake of starting to say hello to a couple of the 20 somethings in my gym
which they seemed to think meant i would spend 15 mins talking to them everytime i went to the gym
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i made the mistake of starting to say hello to a couple of the 20 somethings in my gym
which they seemed to think meant i would spend 15 mins talking to them everytime i went to the gym
Yep, got to restrict it to a a curt nod.
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Odd we are the same height and weight?
You are higher weight offseason but contest shape we are the same.
Oh wow, you have 30 inch thighs? didn't know that ;)
You are forgetting bone structure, height, body composition, I carry way more muscle then you. :)
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Oh wow, you have 30 inch thighs? didn't know that ;)
You are forgetting bone structure, height, body composition, I carry way more muscle then you. :)
It's on now.
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I do first excercise for stength then swith to a similar approach.
2 sets to failure, going for at least 12 reps on the first set, second set normally ends up being way shy of reps in the first set, so sometimes ill drop set the second set.
If I get to the point of doing 20 reps on the first set ill bump up the weight a bit.
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It's on now.
nah, we have already been at it many times :D
20 inch arms and 30 inch thighs :P
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Oh wow, you have 30 inch thighs? didn't know that ;)
You are forgetting bone structure, height, body composition, I carry way more muscle then you. :)
You dont have 30 inch thighs, stop it.
Bone structure Height body composition???
How do we differ when in shape?
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nah, we have already been at it many times :D
20 inch arms and 30 inch thighs :P
Come on mate that photos about 7 years old, lets not post old pictures.
Post one from when you dieted last year, (huge props for getting in shape back then)
You only weight 195 when you posted pics, and no leg pics as I recall.
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When I pick up a weight my sole intention is to stress the muscle as much as I can with that particular set.
After warming up I then pick a weight I feel comfortable I can get at least 12 reps with.
During the set if 12 is going to be easy I slow down the reps and contract the muscle to try and exhaust it even further.
I really have no goal as far as reps and weight go, I just make every set count.
man we train the exact same.
I already 'know' what certain poundages will feel like, and the more I drop my weight and focus on the movement using just that muscle the better my body becomes. now I don't dumbell press heavier than 50's and my delts are benefitting massively. the more I feel the muscle work the lighter I can go and have an equally as strenuous a workout as smashing my body w weights I can't move just to support my ego.
as for sets. I have no idea. I just keep going till it's done. this depends a lot on my cal intake and activity levels the day before. some days I'm sure I bang out 24 sets for delts. chest I figure would be half that. today my chest wanted a beating. it wanted pressing movements not mamby pamby pec which I also like. so I bet I did prolly double my chest volume today. but this was strictly food/ fuel based from the day before.
I think most guys who have an impressive level of development are very in tune w their body, know how much volume per session to give it things like that. this kinda edges into that book I'm working on a bit in terms of being able to increase quite drastically just how much volume you can handle but in the end it comes down to listening to your body. know when to pound the sets, and when to throttle back.
great thread btw.
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man we train the exact same.
I already 'know' what certain poundages will feel like, and the more I drop my weight and focus on the movement using just that muscle the better my body becomes. now I don't dumbell press heavier than 50's and my delts are benefitting massively. the more I feel the muscle work the lighter I can go and have an equally as strenuous a workout as smashing my body w weights I can't move just to support my ego.
as for sets. I have no idea. I just keep going till it's done. this depends a lot on my cal intake and activity levels the day before. some days I'm sure I bang out 24 sets for delts. chest I figure would be half that. today my chest wanted a beating. it wanted pressing movements not mamby pamby pec which I also like. so I bet I did prolly double my chest volume today. but this was strictly food/ fuel based from the day before.
I think most guys who have an impressive level of development are very in tune w their body, know how much volume per session to give it things like that. this kinda edges into that book I'm working on a bit in terms of being able to increase quite drastically just how much volume you can handle but in the end it comes down to listening to your body. know when to pound the sets, and when to throttle back.
great thread btw.
Log off getbig and go finish your new book. ;D
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Bunch of illiterate lazy machine training wimps in this thread, only the coach is talking sense.
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Bunch of illiterate lazy machine training wimps in this thread, only the coach is talking sense.
Does literacy increase muscle mass?
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also some muscle groups are capable of and demand relatively heavy weight.
I agree w coach and OTH about diminishing returns when running the pump.
BUT if you can exhaust the group in a set of 8-10 reps using strict form and run the pump this is ideal for hypertophy. go to heavy you recruit everything but the muscle group targeted / go too light you don't stress the fibre enough. you have to know your body well enough to pull it off and make it grow.
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Come on mate that photos about 7 years old, lets not post old pictures.
Post one from when you dieted last year, (huge props for getting in shape back then)
You only weight 195 when you posted pics, and no leg pics as I recall.
don't talk shit I weighed 205lb, and that arm shot was from Sept brother, 20 inch arms. i have not been below 200 since 07. If you notice my bones are real tiny, at 200lb I carry a lot more then you at 200 since your bone structure is a lot thicker, hey just saying ;)
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don't talk shit I weighed 205lb, and that arm shot was from Sept brother, 20 inch arms. i have not been below 200 since 07. If you notice my bones are real tiny, at 200lb I carry a lot more then you at 200 since your bone structure is a lot thicker, hey just saying ;)
But I have small joints, measure your wrist and ankles, I will try and find a tape and do mine.
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Log off getbig and go finish your new book. ;D
fuck bro I blew the hard drive in my iMac. now i need a new one. it's in the shop as we speak. I've been trying to type it out on my second generation mac but I don't have word and it's a pain in the cock so I'll just wait till my mac comes back.
trust me bro given what im experiencing w my own changes it'll be worth the wait.
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Does literacy increase muscle mass?
If you train the way I tell you to in the next two months your muscle will look bigger and more dense and you will be stronger.
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also some muscle groups are capable and demand relatively weight.
I agree w coach and OTH about diminishing returns when running the pump.
BUT if you can exhaust the group in a set of 8-10 reps using strict form and run the pump this is ideal for hypertophy. go to heavy you recruit everything but the muscle group targeted / go too light you don't stress the fibre enough. you have to know your body well enough to pull it off and make it grow.
at the end of the day the set is not as important as walking away from the gym with the muscle completely destroyed, you do not have to hit failure to accomplish this on every set, heavy weight recruit a lot more fibres for muscle growth then light weight, otherwise marathon runners would have 32 inch thighs.
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But I have small joints, measure your wrist and ankles, I will try and find a tape and do mine.
lmao, Cmon bro, look at the pics. Look at my ankles and my wrist, they belong on a light weight. I have a brother who doesn't train with identical bone structure and he is 145lb
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Just measured my joints,
7inch wrists
9 inch ankles
15 1/4 around my knee.
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lmao, Cmon bro, look at the pics. Look at my ankles and my wrist, they belong on a light weight. I have a brother who doesn't train with identical bone structure and he is 145lb
Measure them.
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Odd we are the same height and weight?
You are higher weight offseason but contest shape we are the same.
Irrelevant.
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at the end of the day the set is not as important as walking away from the gym with the muscle completely destroyed, you do not have to hit failure to accomplish this on every set, heavy weight recruit a lot more fibres for muscle growth then light weight, otherwise marathon runners would have 32 inch thighs.
cyclists have massive thighs.
muscular recruitment isn't necessary to run great distances. however it is necessary to cycle at great speed over short or long distance.
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Irrelevant.
Yes you are.
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Just measured my joints,
7inch wrists
9 inch ankles
15 1/4 around my knee.
don't have a tape on hand but have measured wrist and its below 6''
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cyclists have massive thighs.
muscular recruitment isn't necessary to run great distances. however it is necessary to cycle at great speed over short or long distance.
Cyclist have periods of time where they sprint and up hill as well. Either way breaking down a fiber and making the muscle sore or burn in a set does not = muscle growth
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Yes you are.
Don't hate, just listen and learn.
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when i start a set my focus is to see how much pain i can put the muscle under n driving thru that pain zone, i dont count reps cause it doesnt matter at all to me, reps n weight mean nothing to me, im just concerned about destroying the muscle being trained
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cyclists have massive thighs.
muscular recruitment isn't necessary to run great distances. however it is necessary to cycle are great speed over short or long distance.
long distance cyclists dont get the mind muscle connection, thats why they have slim legs.
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Cyclist have periods of time where they sprint and up hill as well. Either way breaking down a fiber and making the muscle sore or burn in a set does not = muscle growth
I agree. muscle soreness isn't needed for growth. cause you can cause the muscle to adapt to beyond being sore from a workout. once it adapts soreness doesn't exist.
causing the muscle to be fatigued whether it be from lifting weights or cycling be it high rep work or low rep work causes the muscle to need to strengthen and grow to meet the demands of the stimulus. the key is to put it under enough load to cause it to fatigue, and do it repeatedly. once it meets the demand of the stimulus growth will stop. it has adapted. then you can either increase the weight or the volume.
the key is to constantly force adaptation. that's where growth is. adaption equals growth. be it adaption to heavy weight, adaptation to increasing volume or ideally both because with every workout the body adapts to meet the demands your placing on it. once you stop placing demands on it, ie max out on weight you stop growing. how do you keep growing then? increase volume.
as you can see it has little to do with light or heavy and more up do with forcing the body to adapt. that's where the growth it.
as a whole this debate is a very slippery slope. so many variables come into play. natural or juicer will affect the debate massively to start with.
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when i start a set my focus is to see how much pain i can put the muscle under n driving thru that pain zone, i dont count reps cause it doesnt matter at all to me, reps n weight mean nothing to me, im just concerned about destroying the muscle being trained
amen brother. awesome post.
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don't have a tape on hand but have measured wrist and its below 6''
6 inches?
Seriously?
A water bottle top is 3 3/4
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amen brother. awesome post.
thanks no one, glad u liked it, i try to keep it real
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amen brother. awesome post.
Although if you want any density you need to lift heavy weights for low reps, coach says so.
Well, he might do if he contributed rather than sniping from the sidelines.
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Just measured my joints,
7inch wrists
9 inch ankles
15 1/4 around my knee.
i have 19" arms on 7" wrists
i got told they could grow 10" above your wrist size max
i got measured at 12 percent bf
i know thats still a bb fatty but its good for me
fuck knows what i was when i started this diet
ex perma bulker of peace 8)
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i have 19" arms on 7" wrists
i got told they could grow 10" above your wrist size max
i got measured at 12 percent bf
i know thats still a bb fatty but its good for me
fuck knows what i was when i started this diet
ex perma bulker of peace 8)
Props on the diet mate.
I think the 10 inches over wrist size may be natty.
Im sure Phil Heaths wrists are not 11 inches. ;D
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Although if you want any density you need to lift heavy weights for low reps, coach says so.
Well, he might do if he contributed rather than sniping from the sidelines.
i agree, i started out with lifting heavy weights on compound movements like squats,bench,shoulder press,close grip bench ect, i believe thats how all new lifters should train,basics with heavy weight n eat alot of good food
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Props on the diet mate.
I think the 10 inches over wrist size may be natty.
Im sure Phil Heaths wrists are not 11 inches. ;D
to be fair i was about 17 at my best natty
god bless steroids 8)
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How many of these exercises are in your workout program that should tell you how much of a pansy you are.
Squats
deadlifts
sissy squats
dips with weights
pull ups
one arm dumbbell rows
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How many of these exercises are in your workout program that should tell you how much of a pansy you are.
Squats
deadlifts
sissy squats
dips with weights
pull ups
one arm dumbbell rows
lol
I do pull ups, not every workout though I dont do any of the others at the moment,, not long ago I used to do weighted dips with 100lb for 15 reps, twinged my bicep tendon behind the pec, stopped doing them.
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No one cares about strength anymore. FACT is you need a strength base, a good strong strength base. If you go in with just higher reps, there will little density to the muscle. More on this later. But training for just a "pump" just to contact the muscle is not that effective.
You are not a fiend of science, but how else will you back up this claim?
Density?
Seriously?
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You are not a fiend of science, but how else will you back up this claim?
Density?
Seriously?
Most of my training is backed with "science". Yes, seriously.
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How many of these exercises are in your workout program that should tell you how much of a pansy you are.
Squats
deadlifts
sissy squats
dips with weights
pull ups
one arm dumbbell rows
none. > pansy alert.
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I never understand why people do 3 sets 12 reps?
What do they think they get out of stopping short on each set?
Cumulative fatigue - multiple sets, the early sub-max-effort sets induce fatigue that's reached in the last set(s)
I do 8 x 8 for pretty much everything these days, the first 5 sets are all slow reps, squeeze and hold but not close to failure. It's the last 3 that really suck
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I agree. muscle soreness isn't needed for growth. cause you can cause the muscle to adapt to beyond being sore from a workout. once it adapts soreness doesn't exist.
causing the muscle to be fatigued whether it be from lifting weights or cycling be it high rep work or low rep work causes the muscle to need to strengthen and grow to meet the demands of the stimulus. the key is to put it under enough load to cause it to fatigue, and do it repeatedly. once it meets the demand of the stimulus growth will stop. it has adapted. then you can either increase the weight or the volume.
the key is to constantly force adaptation. that's where growth is. adaption equals growth. be it adaption to heavy weight, adaptation to increasing volume or ideally both because with every workout the body adapts to meet the demands your placing on it. once you stop placing demands on it, ie max out on weight you stop growing. how do you keep growing then? increase volume.
as you can see it has little to do with light or heavy and more up do with forcing the body to adapt. that's where the growth it.
as a whole this debate is a very slippery slope. so many variables come into play. natural or juicer will affect the debate massively to start with.
excellent post
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cyclists have massive thighs.
muscular recruitment isn't necessary to run great distances. however it is necessary to cycle at great speed over short or long distance.
Cyclist have periods of time where they sprint and up hill as well. Either way breaking down a fiber and making the muscle sore or burn in a set does not = muscle growth
Cyclist with big thighs. Big thighs = strong. As much as everyone seems to deny it, there's a direct correlation between size and strength. It's not the whole story but still. No Tour The France cyclist can squat this poundage. Why? They don't have the size.
573lbs
(http://i.imgur.com/clgln.jpg)
(http://www.lebanontimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/38b8edf7297_634x864.jpg)
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Cumulative fatigue - multiple sets, the early sub-max-effort sets induce fatigue that's reached in the last set(s)
I do 8 x 8 for pretty much everything these days, the first 5 sets are all slow reps, squeeze and hold but not close to failure. It's the last 3 that really suck
but you stop at 8 reps every set, how is that pushing the muscle, surely on occasion you can grind 10 or 12 out?
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Cyclist with big thighs. Big thighs = strong. As much as everyone seems to deny it, there's a direct correlation between size and strength. It's not the whole story but still. No Tour The France cyclist can squat this poundage. Why? They don't have the size.
573lbs
(http://i.imgur.com/clgln.jpg)
(http://www.lebanontimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/38b8edf7297_634x864.jpg)
:o :o :o
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:o :o :o
and only 28 inches, thats 2 inches less than yours.
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but you stop at 8 reps every set, how is that pushing the muscle, surely on occasion you can grind 10 or 12 out?
I don't get your point. If 8 reps doesn't push the muscle, what kind of magic happens at 10/12 reps? You're just moving toward more hypertrophy which doesn't say much about the muscular stress. It's more of an aesthetic result than anything else. I haven't seen a ton of weightlifter go beyond the 6/8 rep range and most of the time they stick to the 3/5 rep range. They might not look as muscular as Bbers but I'd argue that they have much better neuromuscular reactions.
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and only 28 inches, thats 2 inches less than yours.
OMG you sound like a jealous little bitch, my thighs reach 30 inches after only 2 months of training at any given time, want to make a FAT wager here, or are you too poor to put your money where your mouth is, after all you can't afford a car right and your bike (the only form of transportation you own) is probably broken down right now right? lmao :-[
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OMG you sound like a jealous little bitch, my thighs reach 30 inches after only 2 months of training at any given time, want to make a FAT wager here, or are you too poor to put your money where your mouth is, after all you can't afford a car right and your bike (the only form of transportation you own) is probably broken down right now right? lmao :-[
Seriously mate, chill out, its just the internet.
I wouldnt want 30 inch thighs in a million years, why would I want to look like a fat woman in clothes.
I dont have a motor bike, that was all a joke.
Sheesh.
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Seriously mate, chill out, its just the internet.
I wouldnt want 30 inch thighs in a million years, why would I want to look like a fat woman in clothes.
I dont have a motor bike, that was all a joke.
Sheesh.
;D that's what I thought ;)
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Seriously mate, chill out, its just the internet.
I wouldnt want 30 inch thighs in a million years, why would I want to look like a fat woman in clothes.
I dont have a motor bike, that was all a joke.
Sheesh.
wait a sec, you don't own a bike either? bus?
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also some muscle groups are capable of and demand relatively heavy weight.
I agree w coach and OTH about diminishing returns when running the pump.
BUT if you can exhaust the group in a set of 8-10 reps using strict form and run the pump this is ideal for hypertophy. go to heavy you recruit everything but the muscle group targeted / go too light you don't stress the fibre enough. you have to know your body well enough to pull it off and make it grow.
The moment i'm benching, and I feel strain on my shoulder/elbow joints - I drop the weight. This is just an example, as I do this with most exercises, the sweet spot for me is when i'm struggling for the last few reps (don't count overall reps per set), and I just about do the last one still with perfect form.
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wait a sec, you don't own a bike either? bus?
'Shanks pony', look it up ;D
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1.- Time Under Tension (No herky jerky fast paced sloppy shit reps....all about controlling the weight in good form)
2.- Extending a set via using Intensity Techniques (fuck 8 reps,or 12 reps,or 20 reps
Do a Drop-Set,Triple-Drop Set,Super-Set,etc. etc.,to reach true failure while experience pin with a huge pump)
3.- Minimal Rest Periods (30-60 seconds between sets....90 seconds for some leg exercises
Getting the most work done in the shortest amount of time is intensity at its very best)
4.- Moderate Poundages (they feel much heavier using the above tactics.
Some "Controlled Cheating" as Arnold called it at the end of a hard set is permissable,but nothing too sloppy formwise.)
5.- Mind/Muscle Connection...without it you`re just lifting weights and are quite simply fucked.
6.- Full Range Of Motion (none of this 1/4 rep pansy shit I see daily on too many occasions.
If you can`t do the movement using full ROM,take off some poundage.....ego at door.....leave it there)
As a guy gets older,the meaning of heavy is a very relative thing.
I did powerlifting and lots of sets 0f triples,doubles,and 5 X 5 and shit like that.......got stronger than shit but very little hypertrophy.
Can`t do all that shot anymore at 59,nor would I recommend it for veteran trainers since it got me fucking nowhere physiquewise.
HTH ;)
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I did powerlifting and lots of sets 0f triples,doubles,and 5 X 5 and shit like that.......got stronger than shit but very little hypertrophy.
Can`t do all that shot anymore at 59,nor would I recommend it for veteran trainers since it got me fucking nowhere physiquewise.
HTH ;)
You really think so? Your training nowadays is totally unrelated to what you have done earlier in your life? Don't you think you benefited from it as much as it might have cost you?
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You really think so? Your training nowadays is totally unrelated to what you have done earlier in your life? Don't you think you benefited from it as much as it might have cost you?
Yeah,it`s all a learning experience for sure.
Some people do far better training with heavy poundages than others do,just like some cats are just born to bench 405 for reps as an example while others may hit a 275 pounds max set of 5 reps after 20 years of training.
As a newb to training,you should always be striving to get stronger with perfect form.........this becomes nowhere near as important as the years go by though.
There are simply tons of ways to make resistance progressive besides just adding another 2 + 1/2 pound plate to both sides of a bar.
For a small guy,I was stronger than Hell,but didn`t gain much i the way of muscle until I backed off on the heavier weights.
As an example,I used to do 2 sets of 5 reps on Seated DB Presses with the 80 pounders,full lockout top,to full down to touch my delts in the bottom position while weighing about 155 pounds.........now I never go past the 40`s or 50`s.
I was so caught up worrying about moving weight from Point-A to Point B,I lost sight of the Mind To Muscle Connection.........and that in my opinion,is where your mind should be when training.
If you did what I call a Quad-Set of Lateral Raises,then Dumbell Presses,right back to Lateral Raises,then DB Presses again,then rested a minute or so and repeated it for 2 more cycles,you`d be hitting 5-6 reps on the second go round because your delts would be wiped out,and the poundages would be laughable numbers wise,but would still be kicking anyones ass to complete the Quad-Set.......even if the guy was a huge beast.
Result= big round delts.
I won`t even mention the role drugs play in either the heavy versus light scenarios.
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If you want to look like "the coach is back" , do this:
Eat everything you can see, take no prisoners
Don't bother going to the gym, it will not make a difference.
Cut off your legs below the knees.
The last time this guy looked good was roughly when the titanic sunk.