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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: dj181 on March 04, 2013, 06:21:09 AM
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ok fellas here's my current strength levels in my own Big 3 (a major push, pull, and leg move)
db row (my pull move) 120x9
weighted push-up (my push move) bodyweight with 100 pounds added for 6 reps
wide squat with a heavy bell held btw my legs (my leg move) 110x6
yeah, i guess my leg strength is the worst of the 3, but is it really that bad compared to the other 2 lifts?
p.s. i'm at a major disadvantage for demonstating leg strength coz i got really long ass legs (i wear 35 inch length jeans)
also, my arms currently measure 15 1/3 inches and my legs are 23 1/2 inches
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ok fellas here's my current strength levels in my own Big 3 (a major push, pull, and leg move)
db row (my pull move) 120x9
weighted push-up (my push move) bodyweight with 100 pounds added for 6 reps
wide squat with a heavy bell held btw my legs (my leg move) 110x6
yeah, i guess my leg strength is the worst of the 3, but is it really that bad compared to the other 2 lifts?
p.s. i'm at a major disadvantage for demonstating leg strength coz i got really long ass legs (i wear 35 inch length jeans)
also, my arms currently measure 15 1/3 inches and my legs are 23 1/2 inches
U DO SOME DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS TO DETERMINE THAN I DO BUT IF SHOWS IT GROWS...HOW TALL ARE U?MY PANT IS 32 DOWN,,MY LEGS ARE OVER 26 AROUND I'M 5'7 TO 5'8 ARMS 17 LAST MEASURED,,DO U TRAIN HOME OR AT GYM..
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U DO SOME DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS TO DETERMINE THAN I DO BUT IF SHOWS IT GROWS...HOW TALL ARE U?MY PANT IS 32 DOWN,,MY LEGS ARE OVER 26 AROUND I'M 5'7 TO 5'8 ARMS 17 LAST MEASURED,,DO U TRAIN HOME OR AT GYM..
i'm 5'11" and i train at home
so you got 26 inch legs? well man i ain't surprised coz your wheels are your best bodypart
my arms will never be 17 inches and i can accept that, but i'm hoping to get a legit and conditioned 16 inch arm which ain't too bad actually
here's a legit and conditioned 17.25 inch arm
(http://www.bodybuilding-sportnahrung.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/richardbaldwin21.jpg)
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ok fellas here's my current strength levels in my own Big 3 (a major push, pull, and leg move)
db row (my pull move) 120x9
weighted push-up (my push move) bodyweight with 100 pounds added for 6 reps
wide squat with a heavy bell held btw my legs (my leg move) 110x6
yeah, i guess my leg strength is the worst of the 3, but is it really that bad compared to the other 2 lifts?
p.s. i'm at a major disadvantage for demonstating leg strength coz i got really long ass legs (i wear 35 inch length jeans)
also, my arms currently measure 15 1/3 inches and my legs are 23 1/2 inches
Have you always trained legs?
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THATS A GOOD OLD SCHOOL BUILD,,,CHEST AND LEGS ARE MY BEST AND BACK SOMEWHERE TOO,,,MY ARMS FROM SIDE AND REAR LOOK BIGGER THAN FROM FRONT VIEW BUT THEY HAVE IMPROVED,,I HAVE GOOD SHAPED TRI'S AND THEY ARE SEPERATED FROM SIDE AND REAR,,
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Have you always trained legs?
nope, i used to be what was called a bench press f@ggot, just training push and a little lat to have a good bench, for legs i ran 2 or 3 hard miles most days
so is my leg perfromance much worse than my push/pull perfomance in your opinion?
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nope, i used to be what was called a bench press f@ggot, just training push and a little lat to have a good bench, for legs i ran 2 or 3 hard miles most days
so is my leg perfromance much worse than my push/pull perfomance in your opinion?
So then you are playing "catch up".
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So then you are playing "catch up".
maybe, but i think that a 15 1/3 inch am with a 23 1/2 leg is a pretty decent ratio, wouldn't you agree?
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maybe, but i think that a 15 1/3 inch am with a 23 1/2 leg is a pretty decent ratio, wouldn't you agree?
Well I say not bad but arm size needs to be a bit more, around 16 to ratio on thighs.
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Well I say not bad but arm size needs to be a bit more, around 16 to ratio on thighs.
agreed
16 to 24 is IDEAL me thinks
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DJ181
Your 5'11 and have a 35" pant insert...quite a ratio difference. (no dis on your macho-ism, but a lot of female volleyball players built like that)
Guessing your doing the old Jefferson Lift, with a BB held between the legs (over/under grip). Or is there something else you might be doing? Heavy bell= a single DB/Kettle bell? Probably time to start having more focus on the legs/quad, because if you do, you may have the advantage of increasing the muscular bwt. With the legs and the rest of the body (most notably the arms, gaining size and strength).
If training at home, and perhaps with limited equipment; as, no squat rack or PR, than might suggest the BB hack squat for the legs. Also weighted step-ups. If having a squat rack, than consider using it to it's fullest benefit. As a fair gauge, the current exercise your doing for the legs should have at least 100 more pounds on it. Unless your doing the 40-50 rep advance training thing.
Your weighted push-up is impressive. Unless your doing the push-ups on a set of blocks, which increases the ROM greatly, push-up are really akin to floor presses (most don't actually touch the chest to the floor...maybe a actually 3/4ths ROM). Might add dips (weighted) to your program, if not wanting to do regular benching. And the weighted push-up should increase greatly. (300lb floor press are somewhat average, 400lbs probably in the range of most guy's).
A 16" arm (cold measurement, taken first thing in the morning..without any added normal pump..brushing teeth, stroking the chunky monkey, etc) is fairly common for most guy's who have been training for awhile. A true 17 1/2 to 18 inch arm is not all that common, no matter with all the BS on GB or anywhere else. That is a arm devoid of fat and in excellent condition. Seem many fat guy's with big arms, but so what...just fat.
Your DB row is impressive. So that may offer a clue to how strong the rest of your body can become, including the leg power. And of course, adding muscular size. Good Luck.
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DJ181
Your 5'11 and have a 35" pant insert...quite a ratio difference. (no dis on your macho-ism, but a lot of female volleyball players built like that)
Guessing your doing the old Jefferson Lift, with a BB held between the legs (over/under grip). Or is there something else you might be doing? Heavy bell= a single DB/Kettle bell? Probably time to start having more focus on the legs/quad, because if you do, you may have the advantage of increasing the muscular bwt. With the legs and the rest of the body (most notably the arms, gaining size and strength).
If training at home, and perhaps with limited equipment; as, no squat rack or PR, than might suggest the BB hack squat for the legs. Also weighted step-ups. If having a squat rack, than consider using it to it's fullest benefit. As a fair gauge, the current exercise your doing for the legs should have at least 100 more pounds on it. Unless your doing the 40-50 rep advance training thing.
Your weighted push-up is impressive. Unless your doing the push-ups on a set of blocks, which increases the ROM greatly, push-up are really akin to floor presses (most don't actually touch the chest to the floor...maybe a actually 3/4ths ROM). Might add dips (weighted) to your program, if not wanting to do regular benching. And the weighted push-up should increase greatly. (300lb floor press are somewhat average, 400lbs probably in the range of most guy's).
A 16" arm (cold measurement, taken first thing in the morning..without any added normal pump..brushing teeth, stroking the chunky monkey, etc) is fairly common for most guy's who have been training for awhile. A true 17 1/2 to 18 inch arm is not all that common, no matter with all the BS on GB or anywhere else. That is a arm devoid of fat and in excellent condition. Seem many fat guy's with big arms, but so what...just fat.
Your DB row is impressive. So that may offer a clue to how strong the rest of your body can become, including the leg power. And of course, adding muscular size. Good Luck.
NICE ASSESSMENT I READ IT THROUGH,,,
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weighted one-legged squats will build any legs. Standing on bench with a weighted dip belt or Dumbell.
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weighted one-legged squats will build any legs. Standing on bench with a weighted dip belt or Dumbell.
Exactly.
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One legged squats are excellent.
As are Step-up's, which are not the same as the one legged squat. Most athletes are using Step-up for a fuller effect on the hams and gluts. Bulgarian squats are also a good exercise, to use at home, if having limited equipment. Lifters and BB'ers get the benefit of working each legs the same, insuring equal power and size (for BB'ers). Include Lunges in the mix, though some have a problem with balance at first, specially the walking lunges. Good Luck.
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might be a good read for you. One leg squats i do on a bench
http://www.beastskills.com/one-legged-squat-the-pistol/
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I actually saw a guy at my gym do a full rock bottom pistol squat standing on a 15 lb dumbell just messing around. I have a also seen the same guy squat 500lbs and do 405lbs for 10-15 reps for nice deep reps weighing around 215lbs..
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I remember in 1999 having had a knee op doing physio and a little blond girl physiotherapist really made me sweat on these. she was so cute.
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I remember in 1999 having had a knee op doing physio and a little blond girl physiotherapist really made me sweat on these. she was so cute.
LOL...
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LOL...
;D
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thanks for that feedback jpm
i'm doing the squats with a single db held btw my legs, and my legs are about 30 inches apart, my legs are weak as fuck but i'm at a great leverage disadvantage to demonstrate leg strength coz my legs are so damn long and i've got narrow hips
leg strength is best demonstrated by fellas with short femurs and wide hips
on the weighted push-up i go very deep as i put my feet up on the bed and i put each hand on a seperate chair and my hands are about 24 inches apart, so my chest sinks below my hands even (i was doing dips, but since i've switched to these push-ups my chest has taken on a whole new look, and it's a much better look 8))
i've always had a strong upper back and i could pulldown 260 pounds for a good 8 reps or so
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ratios mean fuck all.
what means something is that youre a deliberately ignorant moron on hormones with the muscular development of female marathon athlete.
Galeniko shoots straight from the hip.. I like his style, aggressive but with substance.
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ratios mean fuck all.
what means something is that youre a deliberately ignorant moron on hormones with the muscular development of female marathon athlete.
what the fuck are you going on about?
i'm on ultra low dose of hormones dipshit ie. 10 mg of sdrol 4 or 5 days a week is very low dose dumbass
you're just pissed off coz i don't follow this typical diet advice horseshit, don't take it personal dude, it's not that serious lol
btw this pic was taken when i was eating bout 1200 cals per day and training with very light training loads
in a PHA/circuit style fashion, so of course i'm not gonna be "big" ::)
again, I WANT TO BE 175-180 @ 6-7% AND NOT BIGGER, and again it ain't that serious chief
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yes, with some people, its pointless to talk other than that way.
this guy is on hormonas and fuck all has happened, fuck all.
the govt should use him as example for false campaign on how peds dont work ;D
i respect every natural out there, i truly do, and that said, theres nothing more ignorant than a ped user who disrtegards diet.
and when he says diet dont matter,its all in the hard training, my head could explode, this is even dumber than true adonis diet hocuspocus :D
btw, true adonis diet is cool for naturals.not the best, but its fine.
but dj181, i seen tennis players with biigger arms, i seen wheelchaired folks with bigger legs,is a disgrace.if he thinks diet dont matter, he should try to grow on nothing but beer diet. ;D
you'll be eating these words within 6 weeks or so chumpo :-*
why? coz i'll have legit and conditioned 16 inch arms while eating a shit diet but at the same time increasing my training loads ;)
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what the fuck are you going on about?
i'm on ultra low dose of hormones dipshit ie. 10 mg of sdrol 4 or 5 days a week is very low dose dumbass
you're just pissed off coz i don't follow this typical diet advice horseshit, don't take it personal dude, it's not that serious lol
btw this pic was taken when i was eating bout 1200 cals per day and training with very light training loads
in a PHA/circuit style fashion, so of course i'm not gonna be "big" ::)
again, I WANT TO BE 175-180 @ 6-7% AND NOT BIGGER, and again it ain't that serious chief
there is something going on back there ,some muscle there/seperation....
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but no mass at all he must follow jpm101 advice
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there is something going on back there ,some muscle there/seperation....
thanks man, and here's the same shot with better lightening
REMEMBER... i want shape, proportion, detail, separation, etc not "size"
u know i've got such an ugly face, so i really got to have a beautiful bod to make up for it ;) ;D
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thanks man, and here's the same shot with better lightening
REMEMBER... i want shape, proportion, detail, separation, etc not "size"
u know i've got such an ugly face, so i really got to have a beautiful bod to make up for it ;) ;D
looks like you never touched a weight bro
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looks like you never touched a weight bro
that's your opinion dudo
btw, where's your pics?
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as promised back day'''
warmed with 3 sets chins 15/12/10 bodyweight
then reverse hammer pulldowns 2 plates per side x10,2 plates and 10 per x10,2 plates 10 and 5 x8'''
next up the 'dj181 special'one arm dumbell one leg prop on bench 1 back then switch sides ok,100lbs x10,110 x8 ,120's x8 wooooo!!!!
low cable pulley row x3
wide grip tbar row chest to pad x3....
weighted hyperextensions...
bi's and abs no need to get into .....120's were the goal ....
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lol @ gayleniko ;D
p.s. i put on my green "skake yo ass for me" tee and the damn thing now fits me like a glove 8)
i also have another sporty tee from fila and i look like a "bodybuilder" in this tee, with my wide delts and slim and narrow waistline 8) but just don't ask to see my calves LOL
i'll be sending update pics soon to a select few individuals ;)
"diet" bahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
but seriously, one of the major reasons for my most recent gains is getting a good and solid 8-9 hours of sleep a day, before i was only getting 4-5 hours of sleep
and of course, the other reason is because my training loads have shot the fuck up ;)
and remember chief, it ain't that serious, so just relax and enjoy the ride
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here's a few outstanding quotes from ma boy Mentzer regarding "diet"
-"when you’re trying to lose fat and maintain muscle, you need sugar in your diet. As long as you’re eating a reduced calorie diet, you can eat as many carbs as you want and still get ripped.
Theoretically, you can eat pure table sugar and be as ripped as a Mohamed Makkawy"
-"Your bodyfat. That’s, what bodyfat is: stored energy. Now these 2,000 calories can be 2,000 calories of pure table sugar, and you’ll still get ripped.
Theoretically, you can become highly defined eating nothing but ice cream—as long as your daily total calorie intake is below your maintenance need of calories"
-" I woke up in the morning always looking forward to breakfast because I had bran muffins and often cake and cookies, fruits and vegetables.
I ate a wide assortment of carbohydrates; often I would have just carrot cake and coffee for breakfast because I knew I needed that sugar for the workout"
-" I was getting ripped, as a matter of fact.
I was eating ice cream at least four days a week before the Mr. Olympia contest—again, not recklessly. I knew that I had to get under 2,500 calories a day."
-"The best thing is to get lean slowly, and then maintain that lower bodyfat level sanely by eating a well-balanced diet. This going up and down all the time puts stress on your nervous system. Stay lean, and then zero in for a contest"
this last point is a very good one
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here's a few outstanding quotes from ma boy Mentzer regarding "diet"
-"when you’re trying to lose fat and maintain muscle, you need sugar in your diet. As long as you’re eating a reduced calorie diet, you can eat as many carbs as you want and still get ripped.
Theoretically, you can eat pure table sugar and be as ripped as a Mohamed Makkawy"
-"Your bodyfat. That’s, what bodyfat is: stored energy. Now these 2,000 calories can be 2,000 calories of pure table sugar, and you’ll still get ripped.
Theoretically, you can become highly defined eating nothing but ice cream—as long as your daily total calorie intake is below your maintenance need of calories"
-" I woke up in the morning always looking forward to breakfast because I had bran muffins and often cake and cookies, fruits and vegetables.
I ate a wide assortment of carbohydrates; often I would have just carrot cake and coffee for breakfast because I knew I needed that sugar for the workout"
-" I was getting ripped, as a matter of fact.
I was eating ice cream at least four days a week before the Mr. Olympia contest—again, not recklessly. I knew that I had to get under 2,500 calories a day."
-"The best thing is to get lean slowly, and then maintain that lower bodyfat level sanely by eating a well-balanced diet. This going up and down all the time puts stress on your nervous system. Stay lean, and then zero in for a contest"
this last point is a very good one
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those are not the big 3 ::)