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how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« on: December 27, 2012, 01:49:06 PM »
would you not need to disect a bodybuilder to comment on density

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 01:55:44 PM »
Idiotic adjectives thrown around by bodybuilding 'experts' all over the world:

'Granite-Like'

'Dense'

'Spilled Over'

'Muscle Maturity'

'Bloofy'

'Champion'

'Athlete'


To answer your question; it isn't. Can't see any striations? Surely it's the muscle itself! Not the skin and water encapsulating the muscle, but the density and maturity of the muscle. Yes.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 02:06:20 PM »
Can't see any striations? Surely it's the muscle itself! Not the skin and water encapsulating the muscle, but the density and maturity of the muscle. Yes.
yeah what the fuck

it's like the more these experts get into it the dumber they get

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 02:57:31 PM »
would you not need to disect a bodybuilder to comment on density

Easy , Ronnie on the left is dense & dry , Ronnie on the rights is soft and holding water


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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 02:59:40 PM »
Easy , Ronnie on the left is dense & dry , Ronnie on the rights is soft and holding water


what do you mean "dense"


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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
Ronnie on the left is under better lighting than on the right



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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 03:02:50 PM »
Easy , Ronnie on the left is dense & dry , Ronnie on the rights is soft and holding water

Ronnie on the left has more definition. Following your logic, Ronnie was "denser" than Dorian at their prime

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 03:04:41 PM »
ND, who would you say has better muscle density in this comparison?

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 03:05:09 PM »
the fact is you fools dont seem to know the meaning of the word density

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 03:09:26 PM »
Ronnie on the left has more definition. Following your logic, Ronnie was "denser" than Dorian at their prime

Still trying to prove Ronnie was better huh?  8) keep trying kid.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 03:11:22 PM »
would you not need to disect a bodybuilder to comment on density
No not at all. This is in fact very easy to tell. In bodybuilding terms when you see a rugged surface it is called dense. When it is just a smooth surface then it is not dense. I don't care what the real meaning is this what we refer to as bodybuilders when we use that word 'dense'

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 03:11:51 PM »
ND, who would you say has better muscle density in this comparison?

You were already scolded by Kevin Horton for trying to use this comparison as proof of who was better conditioned And he explained to you why you couldn't.

I wont debate with you who is better conditioned that was a done deal a LONG time ago and you're still wrong today  ;)

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 03:12:12 PM »
Still trying to prove Ronnie was better huh?  8) keep trying kid.
yates has better calves

ronnie has better arms


other things are debatable

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2012, 03:13:09 PM »
No not at all. This is in fact very easy to tell. In bodybuilding terms when you see a rugged surface it is called dense. When it is just a smooth surface then it is not dense. I don't care what the real meaning is this what we refer to as bodybuilders when we use that word 'dense'
is this like using "symmetry" for "proportions"

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2012, 03:14:20 PM »
ND, who would you say has better muscle density in this comparison?
In bodybuilding terms Dorian is more dense in that pic, look at his texture it is rugged and Ronnie's is smooth, that is what the term means in bodybuilding.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2012, 03:15:08 PM »
is this like using "symmetry" for "proportions"
I guess, these are not exact meanings to presice words, they are terms in bodybuilding lingo.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2012, 03:15:24 PM »
In bodybuilding terms Dorian is more dense in that pic, look at his texture it is rugged and Ronnie's is smooth, that is what the term means in bodybuilding.
because ronnie has better skin?

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2012, 03:18:38 PM »
In bodybuilding terms Dorian is more dense in that pic, look at his texture it is rugged and Ronnie's is smooth, that is what the term means in bodybuilding.
a lot of getbiggers claim it's actual density tho

the heavier you lift

the denser the muscle gets

and this is visible on stage

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 03:19:27 PM »
because ronnie has better skin?
I don't know what gives that look, skin or muscle but that is what judges look for, why do you think Branch is winning Arnold title? (He should not be in top 5) Simply because the texture of his skin looks rugged, all the judges say Branch is dense.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2012, 03:19:33 PM »
In bodybuilding terms Dorian is more dense in that pic, look at his texture it is rugged and Ronnie's is smooth, that is what the term means in bodybuilding.

what you called "rugged," I call bad skin. Why should Ronnie be penalized on "density" for having healthier skin than Dorian?


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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2012, 03:20:55 PM »
I don't know what gives that look, skin or muscle but that is what judges look for, why do you think Branch is winning Arnold title? (He should not be in top 5) Simply because the texture of his skin looks rugged, all the judges say Branch is dense.
hahaha omg it's true

these shmoes are looking for bad skin

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
a lot of getbiggers claim it's actual density tho

the heavier you lift

the denser the muscle gets

and this is visible on stage

 ::)
Getbiggers can say what they want. When a judge says that guy is dense he is judging by the ruggedness of his skin, nothing more. Evan is known by judges to be dense from the front cause he is rugged and grainy. Phil on the other hand is not known for being dense, no ruggedness to his muscle. So his muscle is referred to as bloofy.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2012, 03:23:27 PM »
Still trying to prove Ronnie was better huh? keep trying kid.

lol, keep dodging the question like you always do. Your stubborn refusal to acknowledge that you don't know what the heck you're talking about is all the proof I need that I'm right ;)

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2012, 03:24:48 PM »
what you called "rugged," I call bad skin. Why should Ronnie be penalized on "density" for having healthier skin than Dorian?


You can flip it anyway you want, call it bad skin, call grainy, rugged, whatever but the bottomline is this is rewarded on stage.

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Re: how is it possible to judge "muscle density" by looking at skin
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2012, 03:29:00 PM »
You can flip it anyway you want, call it bad skin, call grainy, rugged, whatever but the bottomline is this is rewarded on stage.

says who? Looking at all the past Mr. Olympias, the only one who ever won with rugged-looking skin was Dorian. And he never competed against a prime Ronnie. So we don't know which physique the judges would have chosen. Where's your evidence to back up the claim this is what's rewarded on stage?